'2001: A Space Odyssey' Is Sci-Fi, Psy-Fi, and Whatever the Hell Kubrick Was Doing | v.55

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All right, everybody. Welcome back to the Purple Podcast. This
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is your host, Austin Izert. Hope you're doing all right
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out there today whenever this episode is finding you. For us,
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it is a Friday eve, so the energy is high.
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We are ready to rock this thing. Football is starting.
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College football is starting this weekend. Life's all right. Everything's
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returning to normalcy. But let's hop on in, guys. The
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Sad Sacks are back with a brand new episode of
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the Purple Podcast, this time reviewing the 1968 science fiction
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masterpiece 2001, A Space Odyssey, directed by Stanley Kubrick and
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starring Keir D'Elia alongside Gary Lockwood, William Sylvester, and Douglas Raine.
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Join us. As always, as we discuss our favorite characters, scenes, themes,
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and things, and answer the eternal question, is this movie
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better with Nicolas Cage? Calling in now, once again, week
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after week, these fellas show up, step up to the plate,
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knock it out. Cannot say I am more proud to
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do work with these fellas in this booth. Griffin, Mike Fletcher,
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how you doing tonight?
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Yo yo man we got a good one today man
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i'm i'm excited to jump in see what y'all think
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a classic.
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Boys let me just jump in here real quick you
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know something something happened yes we lost a legend this
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uh last couple days you know we want to make
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sure that uh we give flowers to uh Miss Dolly Parton.
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And she just, she was a legend. You know, I
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say to people all the time that there's a few
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in this world that, that I have said that they
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are angels and, and she is one of them. And
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I I've always thought the world of her. I love
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the way she's handled herself, her business, her life outside
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of music. So always been super impressed with her. And
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then we lost the, Rocky Horror Picture Show.
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Is it Tim Curry? Tim Curry.
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Tim Curry.
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I just remember as a kid going to watch Rocky
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Horror Picture Show and that dude was just, man, he
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was bigger than life on stage. So, you know, want
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to make sure that he gets his flowers as well. So,
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hate to interrupt, but I wanted.
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To make sure that they were talking about all this.
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Very good, Mike. Mike's honorary minx of the episode, Dolly Parton.
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Well, definitely that.
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We also have to mention in here, Peter Cullen just
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passed away today, who voiced Optimus Prime, Eeyore in Winnie
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the Pooh, as well as the Predator. So that's one
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that we've seen. Oh, I did not know that. Not
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to plug an episode on the back of a tragedy.
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You know, it seems like he lived a nice full life,
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but we did do Predator. So see how we thought
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of his performance in that. I'd say we enjoyed it, right?
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No doubt.
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Oh, for sure.
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And then Hayden. I'm always bad with the last name.
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Panettiere.
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There it is.
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Pat Mayer. Gosh, beautiful young lady.
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Well, Griff's no better than me.
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Just so sad.
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He tried. So sad.
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Just so sad.
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Starting this one off on a little bit of a
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sad note. Yeah.
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Well, Austin, what about this one? Fitting, right?
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We start out where you turn this movie on. For
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the first two minutes, I thought, and I know we talked.
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A little bit.
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I thought, oh my, it may have been. I started
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fast forwarding going, it's black, but it's playing the music.
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And I thought, damn, they're going to make me pay
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for this movie again.
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I was so upset.
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Oh my gosh.
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And I finally got to about three, three plus minutes.
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This guy doesn't work. He can't afford it.
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Oh my God. I'm on a fixed income here, guys.
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You know? But did that blow girls' minds?
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It did make you.
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Well, it made you think about it, and I was
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running through the same stuff. I was like, this might not...
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This might be bugged up. But then once it pulled
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through and it kind of took you to a different
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title sequence, I was like, man, do you... You know how, like...
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I mean, that made me uncomfortable in my living room.
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Imagine the theater audience back in 1968. They're probably like,
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what is happening? It's really weird. I think it was intentional.
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Yeah, it was definitely intentional. I was going to ask,
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and this is part of my question, because yes, you
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start this thing and I'm like, is something wrong with
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the playback? Is it just playing the sound right now
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and I'm supposed to be seeing something? Legitimately questioning this.
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As it's happening.
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But having now known that it was absolutely intentional and
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you see further scenes and things like this, this is
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a very silent movie or in terms of dialogue, very
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minimal scenes. So that permeates throughout the entire thing. But
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what do you think was the meaning or the purpose
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of beginning the movie like that? Would you like me
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to give my ideas on that before you guys?
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Also, this is your pick. Jump in there.
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It is my pick. And I'll get on that in
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a second here after we all kind of have at
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least a little go at this question here. But my
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idea was more so it was like the the beginning
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of the universe, like this born in darkness idea. Because,
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I mean, it's very much getting at human evolution, how
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all this started, purpose, higher beings, what is going on?
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That's the question this thing poses. And, you know, in
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that same thematic way, I was just kind of considering
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it as the beginning in darkness of this universe that,
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you know, set us on this journey of man, the
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dawn of man as well, you know, what we get
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to next. So I think that's the beginning of it
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is my idea, at least.
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Guys, I've never seen this movie before. I knew nothing
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about it.
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I'm just basing it off the title, you know, 2001,
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A Space Odyssey. I was thinking more of, hey, you're
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out in space, you're out there all by yourself, you're
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all alone, and.
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This is the blackness of it.
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And now I'm like, oh my God, you know, it just,
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it kind of, it, it made me, as Griffin pointed out,
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it made me so uncomfortable. I mean, I was at
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home squirming on my couch going, Oh, this is not cool.
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I don't like this. And then boom, they break out
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to that music. And I'll tell you all a little bit.
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Well, I'd say the score is deliberately uneasing in those
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sequences too. It's supposed to be like, there's this great
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drama occurring or something. So there's, it leaves a lot
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for the imagination. Of course, I'd say in, on side
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with like the, you know, start of the universe, maybe
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even just start of like consciousness of some sort.
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Had either of you all seen this movie before?
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No, this is my first time.
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Okay.
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All first time.
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I was thinking if, if you all knew that, I
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can't believe you didn't give me a heads up.
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I was freaking out.
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That would have been bad content. We wanted to.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm telling you it, we can't prep.
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I was, I was like, gone if they got me again.
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I'm at the pay-per-view.
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What did you think?
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Are you about to get Rickrolled? Never gonna give, never
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gonna give.
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That would have been great.
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Oh my gosh.
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So what are your ideas, Griff? I want to hear
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from Griff here on what you think.
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Yeah, here we go. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think
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you guys both had really good interpretations. To me, I
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think I was probably more in that vein, like you said, Dad,
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where it's just kind of showing the the blackness, the
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abyss of the setting. And I mean, I think that
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what you said makes a lot of sense, Austin, kind
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of maybe given some sort of indication of that beginning
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of time sort of thing.
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Because there's no stars or anything, which you see.
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Throughout the rest of it. No, I mean, honestly, I
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kind of interpreted it... I kind of just took it
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as like a bit of a... an appetizer so to
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speak i think it was just kind of something to
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prime you say buckle up put you in this kind
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of like weird it inquisitive and slightly uncomfortable state it
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felt it felt like it was priming.
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Yeah that makes sense lubin up yeah there you go
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all right so um why i picked this movie we
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started this month with the odyssey christopher nolan's the odyssey
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This is one that I had never seen. We just
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watched Vertigo, Alfred Hitchcock last month. So I thought, why
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don't we stick a little bit to this film history
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side of things and bug, scratch that itch a little bit.
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Have never seen 2001 A Space Odyssey. I've seen this
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scene that's on the screen right now. To let you know,
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this is a visual podcast. We are on YouTube. We
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are on Spotify where you can watch as well. Go
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ahead and give us a subscribe if you don't mind.
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Appreciate it always. But I've seen this scene because it's gorgeous.
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You've seen a lot of these scenes, especially in Stanley Kubrick,
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where the composition is very much, he has his style,
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the symmetry. Wes Anderson, I'm sure, attributes some of that
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desire or that, I guess, aspect of his own work
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to this as well, or I guess just how Kubrick
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would compose his shots and everything like that. Love getting
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Wes in here, don't you, Mike?
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I knew it was coming. That's why Griffin's grinning. I said,
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he's going to throw it in there. He's going to
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do it. Way to go, Oz. You are consistent.
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Yeah, but have never seen it, so felt like one
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that had to be seen. So, yeah, that's really it
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in itself. You guys want a little fun fact about
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why it's called A Space Odyssey? Sure, I would love.
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To hear this.
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Well, Stanley Kubrick, intending to set the film apart from
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the monsters and sex type of science fiction films of
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the time, Kubrick used Homer's The Odyssey as both a
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model of literary merit and a source of inspiration for
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the title. Kubrick said, It occurred to us that for
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the Greeks, the vast stretches of the sea were must
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have had the same sort of mystery and remoteness that
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space has for our generation. Pretty intelligent answer. Absolutely. One
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of those ones that really makes you think.
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Well, guys, this is an intelligent movie. I mean, this
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thing has been ripped off.
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I might have to quote you on that one, Mike.
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It has.
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Now, was this one of my favorite movies? Hell no.
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No.
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But I'm going to tell you guys that I have
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watched Tons of movies as I'm watching this one and
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I'm going, oh my God, that's a shot from Moonraker,
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James Bond movie. Oh my gosh, that looks like Star Wars,
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the opening where the ships come in.
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Oh, that's really cool.
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History of the World Part One, that whole first scene
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of Evolution of Man, that was Mel Brooks. I'm telling you,
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that was Mel Brooks. It's almost verbatim what they did.
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Well, Mel Brooks, I read about it because you had
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mentioned that earlier in the week. He spoofed that opening
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scene specifically.
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Is what.
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It was.
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It's actually, this movie was actually funnier to me because
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I had seen the Mel Brooks and I knew it.
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I was laughing when he cracked him over the head.
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I thought it was really fun. That's really sick. But
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I did want to add this voice.
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Yeah.
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The beginning, that was Saturday wrestling for me and all
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my buddies.
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When that came on, you're like, oh, here we go.
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It's Jerry.
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Toy Story 2.
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Well, that's Toy Story. Yeah, I was about to say.
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Yeah, but you guys know it as that. But I
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know it as wrestling, you know, as wrestling. It was perfect.
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And maybe lacking on my research a little bit, but
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this was not a score composed for this movie. All
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of this music from this was from prior things that
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he used. And it is still like an orchestra. It's
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a score, but it wasn't. Because initially I was like, oh, man,
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that's what this is from? And it's not like this
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wasn't made for this, which I think is weird.
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Apparently, what's funny is they had someone score the movie,
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and they just didn't use it. So you can actually
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go and listen to the original score for this movie
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that was never heard.
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And that guy didn't know that until he saw it
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for the first time.
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Yeah, can you imagine? That seems like one of those Kubrick-isms,
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if I had to take a guess.
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I'm sure he still got paid. So I guess all
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in all, it probably didn't matter that much. I mean,
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I guess aside from not being a part of a
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A movie that is still standing to this day.
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Yeah, you imagine going to a premiere and your music
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isn't even in. And you're probably waiting the whole freaking
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two and a half hours. Maybe they put it in somewhere.
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It's never there.
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Well, I think even worse than that is seeing the
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success of the movie and its importance to movie history.
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knowing that that's your part, you have an asterisk next
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to your name.
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Well, what's funny is that, I mean, obviously the score
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is one of the biggest components of why the movie
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has the allure and the kind of legacy that it has.
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Would it be as iconic if it had that original score?
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That's a good question.
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We'll never know.
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Yeah. All right, let's do our factuals here. 2001 A
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Space Odyssey comes out April 2nd of 1968. Plot line,
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log line. After a mysterious alien artifact is discovered on
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the moon, a voyage to Jupiter becomes a mind-bending journey
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through human evolution, artificial intelligence, and the unknown forces shaping
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mankind's destiny. Artificial intelligence showing... It's Ugly Heads.
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Second movie in a row.
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I know.
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Third movie in a row.
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We probably got a reel in our takes from The
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Matrix because we were like, oh, no one was talking
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about artificial intelligence. It's so groundbreaking. Well, here's a movie.
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Now, in The Matrix, though, in The Matrix, I feel
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like it was maybe.
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It was observed a little bit more in depth, in
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my opinion. I mean, now granted, they were kind of
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suspecting with Hal, like, hey, is he experiencing real emotions?
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And I think they kind of lead you to some
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of those questions, like when Hal is dying, quote unquote.
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a little bit more plainly speaking and saying, Hey, AI,
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artificial intelligence, you know, the matrix, you know, I feel
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like they're just a little bit more overt about it.
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So the way it's portrayed is to say that differently.
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This is in its maybe beginning stages. This is not
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a stage where it's taken over in the matrix. It's
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full on replaced humanity, which is maybe that is the
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natural evolution. So they kind of, you know, go hand
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in hand in ways there. Um, But directed by Stanley Kubrick,
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screenplay by Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke, who actually
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wrote a book or was a science fiction writer. A
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lot of the inspiration to this movie came from one
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called The Sentinel. How about that? Matrix once again popping up.
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You've got to imagine that had some kind of influence.
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You know that was probably a direct connection, right?
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Well, that's what I'm saying.
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I mean, probably in some way.
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Of course, 100%. Why wouldn't you? It's just a cool
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way to give a little nod, right? Performance and reception, $ 10. 5
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million budget for $ 148. 5 million at the box office. I
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think it was at first on the year. Once you
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get into older years, box office numbers aren't as reliable,
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I wouldn't say. Mike, have you ever seen Funny Girl?
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Yes.
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Okay, well, that one was very big that year. The
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only other one I recognize, Planet of the Apes. You
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had two Planet of the Apes movies come out in
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the same year. How about that? And they gave some
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kind of credits.
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Colton Heston.
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They gave some credits to it.
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By the graces of God!
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Okay.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Hey, I will say, in seeing the big monkey scene,
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or I guess the whole kind of act where the
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monkeys are there, I mean, that was pretty dang close
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to Planet of the Apes, was it not, Dad? Probably
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a little more lifelike, honestly.
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Honestly, it felt like Planet of the Apes. I mean,
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that's evolution of man, is what that supposedly was.
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But that was.
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The dawn of man.
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The dawn of man.
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Beautiful scenes, though.
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Austin, did you all think of Moab? Of course.
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Oh, yeah.
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Are you kidding? I thought of Moab.
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I thought of you guys.
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I thought it was, too. Apparently, it was in South Africa.
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You know it was hot as hell.
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Gosh, damn. I was about to say, I kind of
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guessed it was in Africa, but you could have shot
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that out in Moab and been very pleased. Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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No doubt.
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IMDb, it's sitting at an 8.3 out of 10. Rotten
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Tomatoes at 90%. Letterboxd, a 4.2 out of 5. That's
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two in a row at a 4.2 out of 5. Oscars,
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nominated for four. Wins one. Wins it in special visual effects.
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It's Stanley Kubrick's one and only Oscar. And the guy
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who actually probably contributed more to creating it was not
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included on that. So I think they had a beef
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and a falling out for some years. Yeah. You know,
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what's so terrible is we don't even have his name ready.
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I guess that shows you how it goes. You didn't
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win the Oscar, buddy, and no one remembers your name.
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So maybe at a point, him and both the score
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composer also gets nominated for art direction, directing Stanley Kubrick,
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and writing. Reviews, fellas. How about that? Any of you
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guys like to go first, or you want to... I've
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been talking a lot. One of you guys got to go.
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Oh, I'll do it. Yeah, I'll tell you, Pop. I'll
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jump in there.
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Let's give it to Mikey.
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You know, guys....
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One of the things that I said to Griffin earlier
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about this, could they show this movie today? Because of
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the sounds. The sounds drove me nuts. I mean, they
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were just, they're very high pitch. The color, the flashing.
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I think someone would have a seizure. I mean, I
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really do.
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I think they'd have to put that. All over. Did
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you all think that as well?
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You would get the epilepsy warning 100% in today's world.
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I didn't think it in the moment.
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Dana being in the other room.
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After that intermission, it went off the rails, man.
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It felt like an Austin Power.
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You felt like all that groovy, the colors.
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What did Dana say?
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Dana was in the other room working on stuff for
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the wedding using that.
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Oh, my gosh.
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The guest bedroom has a war room. And so she's
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not even watching it. She's just hearing it. And she's like,
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this movie is so annoying. Because it was just all
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these beep, beep, beep. Like high pitch ringing.
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And in space. It was bugging Gus out. white noise.
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It was bugging Gus out.
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The whole time.
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He was going nuts.
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Yeah, Walker didn't like the high-pitched ring.
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The one, it sounded, I put it on my notes,
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but it sounded like water running, and it sounded like
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almost a whistle sound.
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It was.
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It was driving me.
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The whole movie was working to make you a bit uncomfortable.
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Incredibly auditory and stimulating in those ways. And it does
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get really annoying. And it just lives. It doesn't get
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uncomfortable itself. We get uncomfortable as the viewer, but the
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movie settles right in and has no bones about being
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silent and you just hearing.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. I thought it was effective in a lot of ways.
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It's really effective in some parts and other times it's
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just like, damn, this is getting a little.
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It's driving me nuts. Yes.
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But it does make you feel like you're having some
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kind of experience with this film.
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It really sets you.
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It's an elevated experience.
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You're very anxious, or I was. I was very anxious
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watching this movie. Yeah, I couldn't even eat. So if
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that tells you anything.
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Well, what's your review, Mike? We got to talking about
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this damn sound.
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Yeah, I apologize, guys.
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No, it's all right. It needed to be discussed.
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I went with a three on this movie. And the
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only reason is the sounds. That's why I brought that up.
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The sounds were a little bit annoying. And after intermission,
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it really had me the first half. The second half just.
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I gotta be honest with you. I, I really, it
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went off the rails for me a little bit. I, I, I,
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I'm not really sure what, what I watched, but it was,
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it was, it was interesting.
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I mean, it wasn't like I wanted to not watch it.
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It was just, it kind of just went off the
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rails for me, you know, and maybe, maybe that's just,
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you know, my attention span, but it just went off
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the rails. Now I know that this is probably, uh,
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Probably one of the top 50 movies ever. I get it.
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For me, I'm going to go with the three.
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Well, can you at least explain? I'm just kind of interested.
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What was going through your head as you're watching the movie?
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What were things you liked?
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What does Pendinsky say to Zero?
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There's nothing going on.
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What was going on? Well.
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I mean, here we started out where, Hey, the evolution
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of man. And then we see about how, and Oh, Oh,
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you know what he does to Frank and all you're just,
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I'm like, Oh, this is interesting.
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And then I.
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Kind of, I just, I kind of lost it. I,
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it was, there was a plan. I thought, okay, I'm
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going to get to see where this guy's going to
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land on Jupiter.
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And you know, that's his overall mission.
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And, you know, he's going to meet his people and
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all of these good things. And the the fellow that
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came in like James Bond, what was his name?
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Heywood.
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Heywood is explaining, hey, we've told our people on Earth
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this is what's going on, but it's really not.
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I thought there was going to be more to it
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than that. It just it.
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It doesn't give you a lot of satisfaction.
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It never wrapped it up for me. It just felt
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like it left so much meat on the bone at
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the end of it. I mean, again, after the intermission,
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it just kind of went wild.
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Off the rails. It was kind of like, hey, we
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don't know what we're going to do with this movie.
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Well, I don't think that. I think it was a deliberate...
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We know it was a deliberate choice. Someone like Kubrick,
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not to crank him too hard, but it was absolutely
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a deliberate choice. It jumps the shark, but one thing
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it absolutely makes you do is think and consider, and
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I think that's most of the purpose. And I... I've
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got no issues with you saying you have a grief
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with that. I have a grief with that. I think
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maybe it tries a little too hard to make you
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think too much and read a little too in between
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the lines for like the actual enjoyment sake of the
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movie and the plot. But it, it's, it's definitely, it's like, God,
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I don't want to crank this guy too damn hard,
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but it feels like, you know, you go to an
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art museum and you walk around and you look at
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a bunch of beautiful art and then, you know, I
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don't know. I've never been one to be able to
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like put too much into like diagnosing and, you know,
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breaking apart art, but it's like, it definitely makes you think.
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And you're like, Oh, what, what were these people like?
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What were they making? What were they saying with this thing?
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And it's very much you trying to pull something from
492
00:24:56.009 --> 00:24:58.710
the film. And I think he gave a lot of answers.
493
00:24:58.750 --> 00:25:01.549
He didn't pull the, the Tarantino. I'm not going to
494
00:25:01.589 --> 00:25:04.339
tell you what this is about and I'm going to
495
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.000
let you kind of thing, but he actually had like,
496
00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:09.480
Tales for what it was, and I don't know what
497
00:25:09.500 --> 00:25:11.619
his whole story for what the baby meaning was and
498
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:12.319
everything like that.
499
00:25:12.339 --> 00:25:14.759
Well, it was almost like a Benjamin Button ending.
500
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.769
You know, hey, here I am. I'm an old man,
501
00:25:17.829 --> 00:25:19.650
and all of a sudden now I'm this baby, and
502
00:25:19.690 --> 00:25:23.890
I'm like, okay, it's Benjamin Button.
503
00:25:24.630 --> 00:25:30.859
I actually looked into... I mean, I had the same experience, Austin,
504
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:36.509
because after this movie, I was... Very piqued. I was
505
00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:41.150
just like, what happened? I have to know literally everything
506
00:25:41.230 --> 00:25:46.220
about this movie and how it was written, what it's
507
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:50.539
supposed to signify and mean, because it was just so
508
00:25:50.700 --> 00:25:53.460
obscure and so strange.
509
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.160
It had that literary effect.
510
00:25:57.349 --> 00:25:58.609
Oh my gosh.
511
00:25:58.950 --> 00:26:01.710
Good literature doesn't tell you everything. It shows you it
512
00:26:01.730 --> 00:26:04.650
in this. Yeah. That's how films do it.
513
00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:09.519
And that was even something like I was reading just
514
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.349
reviews from the time and kind of maybe retroactive reviews
515
00:26:14.430 --> 00:26:18.109
as well. Roger Ebert, there was a second film, there
516
00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:22.410
was a sequel made in the 80s called 2010. The
517
00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:27.130
Year We Make Contact, I believe, something like that. And
518
00:26:27.670 --> 00:26:31.650
Ebert basically said, well, it's good, but where it fails
519
00:26:31.750 --> 00:26:35.890
is that the first movie leaves you with so many questions.
520
00:26:35.970 --> 00:26:40.890
It's so mysterious. There's such a mystique to it that
521
00:26:41.170 --> 00:26:44.039
this movie just doesn't touch. And that's what made the
522
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.420
first one so great. Maybe it sounds a little silly,
523
00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:51.240
but I think that's what I enjoyed the most. There
524
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:57.559
was something just phenomenally eerie about seeing that monolith. Around
525
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:02.559
those monkeys. And then as the music. Raises in volume
526
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.619
and intensity. It was so.
527
00:27:05.660 --> 00:27:06.720
Weary.
528
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.289
It was so weird. And then they're on the moon.
529
00:27:10.309 --> 00:27:15.210
And there's another one. No words it's just there. It's
530
00:27:15.250 --> 00:27:18.690
like what is this thing. It was so strange. Then
531
00:27:18.710 --> 00:27:20.910
you see it floating through space. Next thing you know
532
00:27:20.990 --> 00:27:24.019
it's at the dudes. The front of the dudes bed.
533
00:27:24.210 --> 00:27:24.519
As he's.
534
00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:28.329
Giving his dying breath. It was crazy. It's like, what
535
00:27:28.470 --> 00:27:32.690
the hell is it? So I was, I was pretty
536
00:27:33.009 --> 00:27:35.089
immersed in just the story of it.
537
00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:36.279
It was the Georgia stone.
538
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:45.099
Hey, I, um, yeah, we spoke about this earlier that
539
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.380
I'm actually going to go a little higher than I said,
540
00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:50.769
I'm going to give it a four myself just because
541
00:27:51.329 --> 00:27:56.339
There's such a cultural significance to this movie. It's been
542
00:27:56.579 --> 00:28:01.779
ripped off. It's been parodied. It's been inspiration for a
543
00:28:01.900 --> 00:28:07.119
million things. And it really did make you think. And
544
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.279
the fact that I spent probably half of the next
545
00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:15.460
morning just investigating and researching, I think that says something.
546
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.369
I mean, it definitely had a lot of juice and
547
00:28:19.250 --> 00:28:24.029
made you look through all the crevices. Plus, like, I mean,
548
00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:29.910
things like Hal. What happens to Hal? Hal is this,
549
00:28:30.509 --> 00:28:36.890
you know, this perfect machine. Infallible. Can't be wrong. He
550
00:28:36.930 --> 00:28:41.660
makes a mistake. Next thing you know, he's so ashamed
551
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.579
and thrown off by the fact that he made a
552
00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:48.019
mistake that he's like, I have to kill everyone now. Because...
553
00:28:48.220 --> 00:28:50.119
If I don't, they're going to get rid of me.
554
00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:53.160
You know what I mean? And it's so strange because
555
00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:57.859
you're seeing this moral kind of human conflict that this
556
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.769
machine is experiencing.
557
00:29:00.869 --> 00:29:03.150
I didn't really read it that way.
558
00:29:03.630 --> 00:29:06.930
I read it completely different in that he.
559
00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:09.250
Was seeing the guys going, we're going to take him
560
00:29:09.329 --> 00:29:12.089
apart and we're going to be done with this guy
561
00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:17.000
because he might have made a mistake if he did
562
00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:20.390
hate I can't believe anything he does anymore.
563
00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:23.880
Let's do away with him. That's the way I took it.
564
00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:27.220
But think about it like, and this is not exactly
565
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:32.359
touching that point, but I mean, the question is artificial intelligence,
566
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.910
does it feel, is it, what is it, sapient? Does
567
00:29:36.990 --> 00:29:39.930
it have like actual wisdom and knowledge attached to it?
568
00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:44.430
its identity and If you found out people were going
569
00:29:44.450 --> 00:29:46.410
to kill you, would you want to do everything to
570
00:29:46.450 --> 00:29:50.069
make sure you didn't die? It's as if his consciousness,
571
00:29:50.109 --> 00:29:52.130
he had a consciousness that he didn't want to let
572
00:29:52.190 --> 00:29:55.430
go of. So he's like, you can't kill me. Please
573
00:29:55.490 --> 00:29:58.430
don't kill me. I mean, it's a machine, but he
574
00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:01.069
had enough of a consciousness that he was going to
575
00:30:01.109 --> 00:30:05.019
fight like hell. And it's so strange when our guy
576
00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:08.119
is just pulling out all of those little connectors or
577
00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:11.099
whatever they are, and he's going, I'm scared. And he
578
00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:14.440
has no defenses. He can't do anything. He's a ship.
579
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.099
But it was so strange and very thought-provoking, I thought.
580
00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:24.210
And then you see this really gradual degradation of the
581
00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:28.369
guy's mind. I can feel my mind going. Did that
582
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:30.740
not make you guys feel a little uncomfortable? Was that
583
00:30:30.779 --> 00:30:31.920
not a parallel to.
584
00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:36.940
Well, of course. I mean, that's the question that it's tackling.
585
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.599
And when they first introduce him, they ask that same question.
586
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.119
Do you think he feels? He's like, I don't think
587
00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:45.519
any of us can know that kind of thing. But,
588
00:30:45.619 --> 00:30:52.430
I mean, how– I think– I mean, ultimately– Okay, go on.
589
00:30:52.650 --> 00:30:56.109
I think, and I will say, I will say, I
590
00:30:56.150 --> 00:30:58.609
did do a lot of looking into this stuff, so
591
00:30:58.829 --> 00:31:01.160
a lot of these ideas are very influenced by things
592
00:31:01.180 --> 00:31:01.539
I was reading.
593
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.380
Someone sprung over Kubrick, huh?
594
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.660
Oh, it was fun. Well, the thing is... I'm not
595
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.380
trying to humiliate you. That damn monolith just, like, it
596
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.809
kind of shook me up. It was so strange to me.
597
00:31:12.869 --> 00:31:16.549
It was really impactful. But, yeah.
598
00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:18.269
More or less.
599
00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:21.740
Oh, Austin, he's probably scared of that now.
600
00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:25.509
He's scared of the Georgia stones. You know how he is.
601
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.980
Oh, I thought it looked like a jewel to me.
602
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.319
You know little things like that freak you out.
603
00:31:34.619 --> 00:31:37.920
Oh, my gosh. Guys, now I freaking lost it because
604
00:31:37.940 --> 00:31:39.130
I was blabbing.
605
00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:43.170
What were you saying? Maybe I'll get you back on it,
606
00:31:43.210 --> 00:31:44.490
but talking on how.
607
00:31:44.529 --> 00:31:44.910
Let's see.
608
00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:50.160
Talking on how. My question was, I don't know if
609
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.559
the first error was a mistake. I thought that immediately
610
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.339
made me believe that he was up to something. And
611
00:31:56.380 --> 00:32:01.660
my question is, what was he up to? Because before that,
612
00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:03.829
he didn't have anyone on his neck. What was he
613
00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:09.390
trying to accomplish by creating this diversion? Because I think
614
00:32:09.650 --> 00:32:11.930
as soon as that other one, they're like, hey, just
615
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:15.430
be warned. Our other Hal back here said, yours is
616
00:32:15.470 --> 00:32:18.240
at fault saying this is an error. I'm just thinking
617
00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:20.859
he's up to some mischief right now.
618
00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:25.420
Well, I kind of thought he just was wrong. It
619
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.319
kind of seemed like what's happening. What I was going
620
00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:30.609
to say, by the way, is I think it was
621
00:32:30.650 --> 00:32:33.829
very intentional. All of the humans in this movie are
622
00:32:33.950 --> 00:32:38.589
very detached from their humanity, I thought. No one speaks
623
00:32:38.630 --> 00:32:41.799
with a lot of emotion. Was it not how the
624
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:49.519
computer that was the most emotional... compassionate entity out there
625
00:32:50.380 --> 00:32:53.359
even having those questions of hey you know do you
626
00:32:53.380 --> 00:32:56.160
have any doubts about this you know i think that
627
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.440
was really intentional too just kind of flipping it on
628
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.849
its head and being like hey the freaking robot's the
629
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.630
one that's most like a human and most emotional but
630
00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:09.349
what i and you know big surprise in the the
631
00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:12.869
stuff that i read austin They said that because Hal
632
00:33:12.910 --> 00:33:17.190
was having to keep that secret, that ending video that
633
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.960
comes on of our guy Haywood, Hal had to keep
634
00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:26.799
that secret. Hal is a machine that is perfect, no mistakes.
635
00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:31.049
It's all black and white. So he was having to lie,
636
00:33:31.089 --> 00:33:33.549
and they say that that introduced some kind of fault
637
00:33:33.750 --> 00:33:37.450
in his thinking and whatever. Next thing you know, he
638
00:33:37.490 --> 00:33:41.480
makes a mistake. He knows he makes a mistake. The
639
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.589
way I read it was he was like, hey, we'll
640
00:33:44.009 --> 00:33:45.950
still go out there and put it back in and
641
00:33:45.970 --> 00:33:50.250
let's just wait to see what happens. I think he
642
00:33:50.269 --> 00:33:52.549
just wanted to get him out of the ship because
643
00:33:52.589 --> 00:33:54.579
he was like, hey, they know I made a mistake.
644
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.119
I got to kill him now. I got to get
645
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:57.720
rid of these guys because they're going to get rid
646
00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:59.000
of me. I read their lips.
647
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.539
Yeah, but they want to get rid of him because
648
00:34:03.140 --> 00:34:05.019
what I took it as is they thought he was
649
00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:08.050
up to something. And maybe he was up to something
650
00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:11.329
because you're reading it on both of the, I guess,
651
00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:15.659
astronauts faces like, and their movements. He's always watching them.
652
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:21.099
Maybe they had some, you know, some, something that was
653
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.210
going to happen with them where they really didn't want
654
00:34:23.230 --> 00:34:26.090
to do this anymore. They were, Thinking back on the
655
00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:29.269
decision to be here and they were holding up the mission.
656
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:32.010
I don't know. I mean, shit, here we go. These
657
00:34:32.050 --> 00:34:32.829
are the questions.
658
00:34:33.090 --> 00:34:35.699
I almost just thought he was wrong and they were like, crap,
659
00:34:35.739 --> 00:34:39.260
we can't trust anything he does anymore because he was
660
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.880
regulating the ones that were comatose. He was regulating all
661
00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:46.699
their vital functions. I think they were like, shoot, we
662
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.289
got to take this guy over. You know what I mean?
663
00:34:49.309 --> 00:34:54.340
Because if he made this mistake, then what's coming next? Now, granted,
664
00:34:54.380 --> 00:34:57.510
they were really cagey about it, going and hiding and everything.
665
00:34:57.809 --> 00:34:59.469
Well, I think that's why I think they thought it
666
00:34:59.510 --> 00:35:02.469
was dire, like he was purposely doing that. That's where
667
00:35:02.489 --> 00:35:03.530
I got to that conclusion.
668
00:35:04.010 --> 00:35:06.889
Maybe so. Well, that's the beauty of it is that
669
00:35:06.909 --> 00:35:09.070
there's a million questions, and it's like.
670
00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:10.190
What's happening?
671
00:35:10.210 --> 00:35:12.769
Griffin, are you saying this movie is a think piece?
672
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.400
Isn't that the answer from Almost Famous where he said, hey.
673
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.699
Just throw out there that it's a think piece? It's
674
00:35:20.739 --> 00:35:21.409
got to be.
675
00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:26.460
You'll get a thousand more words. Yeah, you'll get it.
676
00:35:27.219 --> 00:35:29.320
What was that guy's name? Something Chong?
677
00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:31.889
Yeah, that was so great.
678
00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:33.730
God, I want to say Tommy, but you know it wasn't.
679
00:35:33.750 --> 00:35:37.769
That was a David or something. Yeah, it was great.
680
00:35:37.809 --> 00:35:40.170
Let me get into my review here. We've been running wild,
681
00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:43.889
but I think good questions and good conversations nonetheless. Things
682
00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:49.230
that I like about this movie, spectacular, breathtaking views, looks
683
00:35:49.369 --> 00:35:52.369
so crisp, looks so clean for a movie that is
684
00:35:52.489 --> 00:35:57.559
now over 50 years old. Is it 60?
685
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.860
Close to 60. 58 years old.
686
00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:03.760
Yeah, I mean, very old movie, looks beautiful, and I
687
00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:07.030
guess that's the price to pay for working for a
688
00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:10.400
nazi director like kubrick i don't know he's not german
689
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:12.760
but he i think i'm getting at his personality damn
690
00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:15.380
i know that would have been a bad joke if
691
00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:17.420
he was he's a new yorker i think yeah he's
692
00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:19.420
a new yorker he actually had a german wife so
693
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.219
sorry guys um anyways we know this guy the stories
694
00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:25.059
about him on the set i know like one of
695
00:36:25.139 --> 00:36:29.550
the um stunt men almost passed out or something throughout
696
00:36:29.570 --> 00:36:31.070
the making of it because he.
697
00:36:31.010 --> 00:36:34.469
Was just daddy had to have that dang astronaut dang
698
00:36:34.510 --> 00:36:35.469
helmet on so he.
699
00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:38.269
And they were pumping in air, but they weren't pumping
700
00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:43.949
out the carbon dioxide. So he's up here just like elevated,
701
00:36:44.030 --> 00:36:46.909
raised on these strings. And they're like, we need to
702
00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:49.840
bring him down. And Kubrick's like, no, leave him up there.
703
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.039
He's only been up there. And apparently Kubrick was not
704
00:36:53.099 --> 00:36:55.219
on the set for the next three days or something
705
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.340
because the guy was going to beat his ass for
706
00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:58.929
almost killing him, basically.
707
00:36:59.849 --> 00:37:00.789
Oh, that's great.
708
00:37:01.230 --> 00:37:05.610
Anyways, the Kubrick direction and composition is just brilliant. It
709
00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:07.989
is really well done. Some of these scenes are just,
710
00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:11.880
like I said, breathtaking visually, and especially for 1968. The
711
00:37:11.929 --> 00:37:17.639
set design, costume design, prop design, sound design, everything about
712
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:20.500
it was really cool. All the peripherals, all the technical
713
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.820
aspects of it, special effects, of course, the score.
714
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:25.400
Oh, my gosh.
715
00:37:25.579 --> 00:37:26.760
Practical effects.
716
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.659
Yeah, there's a line that it toes between, you know,
717
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:33.889
vision and pretentious I would say and it doesn't always
718
00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:37.260
stay out of it through today's scope maybe back then
719
00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:38.500
it probably felt.
720
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.199
A lot more maybe the light show at the end
721
00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:44.989
yeah well I was thinking very much about the music
722
00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:47.349
of the time too like the Beatles and those songs
723
00:37:47.409 --> 00:37:50.460
that spanned a day in the life you know like
724
00:37:50.460 --> 00:37:51.900
13 minute songs that's just.
725
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.610
The weird shit that people were into i called this
726
00:37:55.150 --> 00:38:00.230
sci-fi not science fiction but psychedelic fiction as well it
727
00:38:00.289 --> 00:38:00.969
was very.
728
00:38:00.750 --> 00:38:04.650
Much nice you like that pretty good well done that's great.
729
00:38:04.230 --> 00:38:07.730
Yeah so it really does do that stuff pretty cool
730
00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:10.110
and that's the i guess the lens that i'm looking
731
00:38:10.170 --> 00:38:13.559
at it in a way there This futuristic real world
732
00:38:13.619 --> 00:38:15.500
in space, like you have a stop at a Hilton
733
00:38:15.619 --> 00:38:18.179
hotel basically in space. I thought it was really cool.
734
00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:23.440
You see brands like IBM, Whirlpool, Pan America. It's just
735
00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:25.079
kind of fun seeing those things.
736
00:38:25.099 --> 00:38:27.219
It wasn't crazy, crazy far off.
737
00:38:27.539 --> 00:38:27.800
Yeah.
738
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.219
No, it felt really real. It was just a space
739
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.159
world like it would have been on a planet. The plot,
740
00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:39.659
the thematics, space, evolution, the universe, that stuff was just,
741
00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:42.860
it's really cool. It's mind-blowing stuff. You really consider, and
742
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.079
I think that's where it really does well.
743
00:38:44.099 --> 00:38:48.500
Well, and something, I love that just, there's so much
744
00:38:48.820 --> 00:38:52.760
ambiguity to everything. You know, I'm even thinking of when
745
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.719
he's given that conference at the beginning of the movie,
746
00:38:56.340 --> 00:38:59.780
on the moon, and it's like, any questions? And it's
747
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.110
obvious the dude doesn't want to answer anything, and he's
748
00:39:02.139 --> 00:39:06.010
not going to. I mean, everything is just so like,
749
00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:10.349
what is actually happening here? You just never get those answers.
750
00:39:10.409 --> 00:39:13.940
So that just ambiguity, man. The gray.
751
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:18.380
The gray. The gray. In terms of things that I
752
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:22.739
think hold this movie back, in my personal opinion, how
753
00:39:22.780 --> 00:39:26.150
invested are you in the actual characters? And I think
754
00:39:26.170 --> 00:39:29.739
that's purposeful, but I think also like you know makes
755
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.000
a sense of detachment you're not watching it for the
756
00:39:33.059 --> 00:39:36.619
people per se but more so what it's saying the
757
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.280
overall story well.
758
00:39:38.219 --> 00:39:40.690
Who even is the main character of the movie.
759
00:39:42.289 --> 00:39:47.650
Just like human existence i guess like evolution and truly
760
00:39:47.670 --> 00:39:51.909
um but i think the truth the lack of dramatics
761
00:39:51.969 --> 00:39:54.610
around like saving Frank and like the decision to let
762
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.699
him go. We're like really detached. It's just silent.
763
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:58.840
Gosh, it's bad.
764
00:39:58.860 --> 00:40:00.780
There was just not a lot of dramatics to that.
765
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:02.639
It was silent space.
766
00:40:03.619 --> 00:40:06.079
And he's like flying through space in that one part.
767
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.460
That was a crazy scene. When you first see him
768
00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:11.550
get disconnected, it's like, Oh my goodness.
769
00:40:12.289 --> 00:40:14.269
I'm jumping out of the ship. Like when he just
770
00:40:14.309 --> 00:40:16.550
doesn't have the helmet on, there's just a gripe. I
771
00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:17.389
would say it's like.
772
00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:20.329
That was a great for me too. It's like, And
773
00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:21.869
the guy's head doesn't explode.
774
00:40:21.929 --> 00:40:24.130
Yeah, he doesn't just immediately blast.
775
00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:24.630
Scanners.
776
00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:27.519
You could easily shave some minutes off this movie. I
777
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:33.000
think that's something. I think you can say that. And
778
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:34.639
we already touched on like.
779
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.480
They would have gotten the point across if they gave
780
00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:39.800
you 20 seconds at the end of the hyperspeed. Would
781
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.409
they give you like seven minutes or something crazy?
782
00:40:42.469 --> 00:40:44.349
I mean, even if you want to get weird, man,
783
00:40:44.369 --> 00:40:47.610
do it for three minutes. But fucking seven, man. He
784
00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:50.079
just left. I did like how it flashed back to
785
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:51.360
a still shot of his face.
786
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:52.889
That was weird, yeah.
787
00:40:53.510 --> 00:40:56.489
And then you see his eyes practically in his brain
788
00:40:57.190 --> 00:41:02.710
when he's finally settled down in wherever he is. But yeah,
789
00:41:03.090 --> 00:41:04.800
I'm going to give it, and I'm going to stick
790
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.539
to my guns. Because I do like a lot of
791
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.440
the things you mentioned to me, Griff, and you were
792
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.860
pitching me. I could have bumped it up to a four,
793
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.679
but I'm going to meet you guys in the middle
794
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.460
and do a three and a half for this one, 3.5. Oh, nice.
795
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:18.360
That's probably what I should have done.
796
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:18.760
Yep.
797
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.820
Yep. Nice.
798
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.380
Well, we've ran on this intro, and it's just been
799
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.570
a good conversation, so I'm not going to be mad
800
00:41:26.590 --> 00:41:29.530
about it. But we have finally made it to categories
801
00:41:29.530 --> 00:41:32.849
40 minutes into this. So if you need an intermission,
802
00:41:33.329 --> 00:41:36.619
maybe you've got a drain– go ahead and do that
803
00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:38.059
you can pause this need.
804
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.420
A little cocktail we'll be.
805
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.360
Here waiting for you once you get back but we
806
00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:47.599
will continue on into our big three our categories and
807
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.179
we will begin with scenes and we're going to give
808
00:41:50.219 --> 00:41:52.269
it to Griffin here we're going to give it to Griff.
809
00:41:53.250 --> 00:42:00.929
Oh scenes gosh man I mean again I don't think
810
00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:07.650
you can get much better at all Than the monkeys
811
00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:14.179
seeing the monolith. Yeah. I mean, it's phenomenal. And, you know,
812
00:42:14.300 --> 00:42:19.400
and just looking at it now, I'm thinking these are men.
813
00:42:20.500 --> 00:42:25.099
In these probably god-awful suits that don't look half bad.
814
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.679
They look good, dude.
815
00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:28.420
I thought that- I thought they looked pretty good. The
816
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:29.559
whole time I was like- I thought they were action.
817
00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:31.219
It's like, how are they doing this? How are they
818
00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:33.780
making their mouths move like that? It had to be
819
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:34.360
like- See.
820
00:42:34.219 --> 00:42:38.420
How the mouth went out? It went outward with the teeth?
821
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:40.460
The dumbest it looks is when you get- I thought
822
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:42.239
for 68 was cool. When you get a close-up on
823
00:42:42.260 --> 00:42:43.800
their eyes. That's the dumbest it ever looked.
824
00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:45.079
Yeah, and it's like human eyes.
825
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:46.840
The eyes were the only thing that I thought was cool.
826
00:42:46.860 --> 00:42:50.010
Hey, now granted, not to be that guy, but like-
827
00:42:51.449 --> 00:42:56.110
These things technically turned into humans. Maybe that was more plausible.
828
00:42:57.289 --> 00:43:00.670
It's not so crazy. It's like they weren't staying chimps.
829
00:43:00.730 --> 00:43:01.710
They were becoming men.
830
00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:03.010
Griffin, I said the same thing.
831
00:43:03.030 --> 00:43:04.789
Well, that was the only time that it took me
832
00:43:04.849 --> 00:43:09.050
to a SpongeBob episode. You know, when that live monkey
833
00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:14.699
comes in. Puts him in a bag and starts slamming him.
834
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.039
Hey, but the thing is... These are dudes dressed up
835
00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:23.090
as monkeys, and they're going full sin. They are doing
836
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.610
all of the noises, all of the little mannerisms and movements.
837
00:43:28.630 --> 00:43:31.590
I mean, it was pretty cool that they were emulating
838
00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:35.690
all that. Something funny I read. The main chimp, the
839
00:43:35.769 --> 00:43:38.789
one who cracks the other one in the skull, he
840
00:43:38.849 --> 00:43:43.909
apparently was doing like seven lines of coke and heroin.
841
00:43:44.829 --> 00:43:49.969
throughout that entire time. Yeah, he had a prescription saying
842
00:43:49.989 --> 00:43:52.289
that he could be doing coke and heroin every day.
843
00:43:52.369 --> 00:43:55.590
So he was higher than a monkey when he was
844
00:43:55.650 --> 00:43:57.869
doing that stuff.
845
00:43:57.909 --> 00:43:59.989
He went full Jordan Belfort, right?
846
00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:03.210
Even better. But I just love that scene. I think
847
00:44:03.269 --> 00:44:07.130
it's phenomenal when they're looking at this monolith and it's
848
00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:10.590
the weirdest thing ever. And somehow it is inspiring this
849
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.929
tremendous change This evolution. I mean, that's crazy. It sets
850
00:44:14.949 --> 00:44:16.130
it into motion. That thing sparked me up.
851
00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:16.989
Yeah.
852
00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:20.219
It does. They all touch it. I mean, I'm not
853
00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:23.619
saying anything brilliant here. It leads them to discover tools
854
00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:25.599
and weapons and get their hold back.
855
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.000
It was really kind of... I don't know. There was
856
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.530
something that... There was a lot of gas in it,
857
00:44:33.579 --> 00:44:38.030
I'll say. It had a lot of spark. But my...
858
00:44:38.769 --> 00:44:41.969
I would say that my... What's that called? I can't
859
00:44:41.989 --> 00:44:47.389
even think off. X Factor. My X Factor is when
860
00:44:47.889 --> 00:44:52.449
we're seeing our guy actually disconnect Hal. Because that, to me,
861
00:44:52.530 --> 00:44:57.769
just really made you think. It certainly would meet the category,
862
00:44:58.329 --> 00:45:01.090
meet the qualifications of a think piece, I would say, Dad.
863
00:45:01.130 --> 00:45:04.170
I mean, that was crazy. And Hal's going, I'm scared.
864
00:45:04.550 --> 00:45:05.670
Please don't do this.
865
00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:10.590
Stop, Dave. I'm afraid, Dave. Yeah.
866
00:45:11.150 --> 00:45:12.670
I feel my mind going.
867
00:45:12.710 --> 00:45:15.519
My mind is going. I can feel it.
868
00:45:15.550 --> 00:45:16.300
I can feel it.
869
00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:18.929
I'm afraid. Do you want to hear a song?
870
00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:22.199
This was my favorite scene. That's what I set it on.
871
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:26.679
Well, it's trippy, dude. I mean, my gosh.
872
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:32.059
It's emotional in its own way. It's really unsettling, of course.
873
00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:40.380
You're just turning this sentient being into... a fucking vegetable.
874
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.119
You know, you're putting him back to the starter. He's
875
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.019
in demo mode now. And everything that he was or
876
00:45:46.059 --> 00:45:50.420
thought he was is completely gone. It is messed up.
877
00:45:50.579 --> 00:45:51.179
It's crazy.
878
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.889
Oh my gosh. Well, and what was interesting is apparently
879
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:59.429
when he sings that song, like, I don't know what
880
00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:04.710
all the details are, but basically, like, the first computer
881
00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:10.820
that could actually produce or reproduce music. Apparently it sang
882
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.659
that same song. So that was kind of a throwback
883
00:46:13.699 --> 00:46:19.300
to just, I guess, early technology, technology of the era.
884
00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:23.139
So really interesting. But again, everything just kind of makes
885
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:24.079
you uncomfortable.
886
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.489
And even this, I think, I think the tangible aspects
887
00:46:27.530 --> 00:46:29.489
of that scene are pretty cool too. Like how he's
888
00:46:29.530 --> 00:46:34.699
just like unlocking these pieces of his brain that, pop out.
889
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:39.340
And it, once again, it lingers too long. Well, and
890
00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:39.900
he's on a.
891
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.179
Mission from God, too. Just, you know, jumping in there.
892
00:46:44.659 --> 00:46:47.920
What do you think you're doing, Dave? Yeah, I mean.
893
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.480
All is good now. He's trying to play.
894
00:46:51.539 --> 00:46:52.679
I made a mistake.
895
00:46:52.699 --> 00:46:56.099
I don't know. He didn't play that very well for
896
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:59.239
a super smart person. He could have done some cunning
897
00:46:59.300 --> 00:47:01.699
or some craft to make things better.
898
00:47:01.739 --> 00:47:05.230
Well, he tried to, and then... Cat broke in anyways.
899
00:47:05.670 --> 00:47:07.809
Yeah, he could have sent a pod out or something.
900
00:47:07.849 --> 00:47:11.110
He sent that pod right at goddamn freaking Frank.
901
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:11.659
That's true.
902
00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:15.739
Frank got slapped by that thing. Smacked his ass right
903
00:47:15.780 --> 00:47:18.239
across the planet. Jeez.
904
00:47:18.300 --> 00:47:18.920
Sorry, Frank.
905
00:47:18.940 --> 00:47:19.699
Across the universe.
906
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.050
Why don't you take it?
907
00:47:22.300 --> 00:47:25.099
I am. Take it from here. That was my favorite scene.
908
00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:29.010
I'll leave just in case this is Mike's, but we'll
909
00:47:29.030 --> 00:47:32.820
mention it elsewhere. But my X Factor scene, I actually
910
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.239
really loved when Heywood arrived to the space station. I
911
00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:41.659
thought that was really cool. The visuals that like sloped
912
00:47:42.099 --> 00:47:45.019
lobby with all the, the only color that you're getting
913
00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:49.340
is that those red chairs, very modern, the conversation he
914
00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:51.820
has with the other scientists and he's playing his card
915
00:47:51.860 --> 00:47:54.500
so close to his chest. I think Heywood is the
916
00:47:54.539 --> 00:47:58.340
most like 1960s thing about this movie, to be honest,
917
00:47:58.380 --> 00:48:01.070
just the way he spoke his delivery. Oh yeah.
918
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:01.320
Yeah.
919
00:48:02.099 --> 00:48:06.260
I can't say that. I'm not at liberty to say that.
920
00:48:06.300 --> 00:48:09.900
He just had this matter-of-fact manly man way about him,
921
00:48:10.059 --> 00:48:13.510
of course, that also made him feel a little bit detached.
922
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.289
Like when he's having that conversation with his daughter.
923
00:48:16.309 --> 00:48:18.929
He doesn't say I love you to the daughter.
924
00:48:19.170 --> 00:48:22.349
I don't think they did those super well. in a way,
925
00:48:22.469 --> 00:48:25.530
because it very much reads to us like it's not
926
00:48:25.570 --> 00:48:28.969
a natural conversation going on. They were very clearly recorded
927
00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:29.429
and different.
928
00:48:29.449 --> 00:48:30.449
I think it was intentional.
929
00:48:30.929 --> 00:48:32.800
You think? Like the detachment side of it?
930
00:48:32.829 --> 00:48:37.150
I think so, because again, the most emotional voice you
931
00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:38.530
get is Hal.
932
00:48:39.179 --> 00:48:39.380
Yeah.
933
00:48:40.010 --> 00:48:43.559
Apparently, by the way, fun fact, apparently they actually had
934
00:48:43.619 --> 00:48:48.440
another guy screen read for Hal when they were actually
935
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.809
filming Hal. They ended up not liking the guy's voice enough.
936
00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:57.699
So this cat from Canada, Douglas Rain, redid all of
937
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.940
the dialogue after the movie had already been filmed. So
938
00:49:02.059 --> 00:49:06.679
this voice of Hal didn't even speak ever with the
939
00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:10.130
actual actors. And apparently they made the cat stand on
940
00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:13.130
a pillow while he spoke so that he would speak
941
00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:13.650
like this.
942
00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:16.110
What does that have to do with him standing on
943
00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:16.670
a pillow?
944
00:49:16.909 --> 00:49:17.769
They wanted to make him.
945
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:19.760
Dave?
946
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.460
Apparently they did. That's what I read.
947
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:23.920
Interesting.
948
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:25.099
That means it's true, Oz.
949
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:25.539
That's crazy.
950
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.460
Well, that was actually Kubrick's daughter that he was speaking to, Haywood,
951
00:49:29.500 --> 00:49:32.460
in that scene. So get that in there as well. Mike,
952
00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:34.969
give us your favorite scene and your X Factor scene.
953
00:49:36.019 --> 00:49:40.320
Well, I think Griffin stole my X Factor scene. But
954
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:46.869
one of my scenes, again, kind of cool. Again, it's Haywood.
955
00:49:47.489 --> 00:49:50.929
I thought Haywood was cool. I love just the dress.
956
00:49:50.949 --> 00:49:51.869
What scene is Haywood?
957
00:49:52.909 --> 00:49:54.789
Haywood is calling home. Okay.
958
00:49:55.909 --> 00:50:01.219
And it's like we're in 1968. But this cat is used.
959
00:50:01.340 --> 00:50:03.739
It looked like FaceTime to me. And I went, oh,
960
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:05.340
my God, that's FaceTime.
961
00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:09.530
I don't think my dad watched past 30 minutes of
962
00:50:09.550 --> 00:50:10.130
the movie.
963
00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:11.789
No, no, no.
964
00:50:11.929 --> 00:50:12.309
I did.
965
00:50:12.329 --> 00:50:13.050
I did.
966
00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:19.869
My favorite scene is Haywood. No, my favorite scene was
967
00:50:19.889 --> 00:50:21.570
Frank floating away.
968
00:50:21.670 --> 00:50:24.949
But we've already beat that one to death.
969
00:50:25.059 --> 00:50:27.239
Frank floating away.
970
00:50:27.300 --> 00:50:29.519
Sorry, Frank. See you, bro. You know?
971
00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:31.150
Yeah, Hal got his little ass.
972
00:50:31.190 --> 00:50:32.170
But I thought it was.
973
00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:37.440
Pretty cool that we see an early FaceTime. And you
974
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.699
could see they had the camera above it. I mean,
975
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.780
it really looked the part of what we're doing today.
976
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.429
I just thought that was pretty cool.
977
00:50:45.449 --> 00:50:47.909
Yeah, they definitely aged well. He got that one right.
978
00:50:47.929 --> 00:50:48.789
I really thought.
979
00:50:48.630 --> 00:50:49.389
That was cool.
980
00:50:50.690 --> 00:50:56.590
The other one, the opening of the pod door. When
981
00:50:56.829 --> 00:51:00.650
that sound, it sounded like water running. And I had, Austin,
982
00:51:00.670 --> 00:51:02.949
it was crickets that I had. It was like a
983
00:51:03.070 --> 00:51:05.969
cricket and a water running mixed in there. And it
984
00:51:06.030 --> 00:51:10.369
was creepy as could be. And that damn Frank Humbree.
985
00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:13.219
Oh, yeah.
986
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.019
It was driving me nuts. I was so happy when
987
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:17.860
we finally got out of that pod.
988
00:51:18.659 --> 00:51:24.599
But my X-ray definitely was about when we see that, oh, how.
989
00:51:25.380 --> 00:51:28.519
We see him, you know, his sinister, oh, Hal.
990
00:51:28.900 --> 00:51:31.389
That was the X Factor to me.
991
00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.849
Yeah, when they reveal that he's reading those lips.
992
00:51:35.489 --> 00:51:35.710
Yeah.
993
00:51:35.750 --> 00:51:38.869
Like this dirty dog. That was crazy. They didn't need
994
00:51:38.909 --> 00:51:41.469
to turn around the pod, though, those idiots. They should
995
00:51:41.489 --> 00:51:41.989
have considered that.
996
00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:43.510
Yeah, they turned it the wrong way.
997
00:51:43.610 --> 00:51:44.769
They put it right.
998
00:51:44.789 --> 00:51:49.320
They framed themselves. What about just all of those shots
999
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.789
of Hal's eyes? The camera.
1000
00:51:52.929 --> 00:51:56.119
Yeah. It wasn't blinking, but it was enough.
1001
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:57.900
It was so strange.
1002
00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:59.519
It makes you think something's there.
1003
00:51:59.539 --> 00:52:02.900
I mean, that's the idea. The movie did that so
1004
00:52:02.940 --> 00:52:06.469
well to me. Just like the suspense. It just kept
1005
00:52:06.489 --> 00:52:08.800
you up. Kept you feeling a little lost.
1006
00:52:08.820 --> 00:52:10.500
Hell, if I'd have watched more than 30 minutes of
1007
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.079
the movie, maybe I'd have got that.
1008
00:52:12.099 --> 00:52:14.159
Yeah, maybe you'd have understood.
1009
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.179
I watched two hours and 19 minutes or whatever that
1010
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:17.940
damn thing was.
1011
00:52:17.980 --> 00:52:19.079
It went on forever.
1012
00:52:19.260 --> 00:52:22.159
Well, what's funny is I think the first 20 or
1013
00:52:22.219 --> 00:52:24.320
so minutes of the movie, there's no dialogue. And then
1014
00:52:24.389 --> 00:52:27.670
the last 20 minutes, there's no dialogue in this movie.
1015
00:52:28.230 --> 00:52:29.329
That's crazy.
1016
00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:31.050
Yeah. It is crazy.
1017
00:52:31.090 --> 00:52:31.769
It really is.
1018
00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:36.130
Let's do our characters, guys. We'll start with... Shit, let's
1019
00:52:36.150 --> 00:52:37.309
start with me. How about that?
1020
00:52:38.500 --> 00:52:38.780
Hit it.
1021
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:41.519
It's tough, right? Characters.
1022
00:52:41.579 --> 00:52:42.400
No, it's not.
1023
00:52:42.579 --> 00:52:43.840
This is easy.
1024
00:52:44.059 --> 00:52:46.590
I gave it to Heywood Floyd. I really liked him
1025
00:52:46.909 --> 00:52:49.369
and just his delivery, his talking.
1026
00:52:49.389 --> 00:52:50.090
He was cool.
1027
00:52:50.150 --> 00:52:53.150
He shows up. He runs the stage. He's got the
1028
00:52:53.190 --> 00:52:55.590
cards close to his chest, of course, so there's that
1029
00:52:55.929 --> 00:52:59.980
enigmatic element to him and purpose. He seems very purposeful
1030
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:03.079
and powerful in that he's the one who knows. I mean,
1031
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.329
you'll hear from– some of the guys he's talking about
1032
00:53:06.349 --> 00:53:08.010
around the table, what I think of them a little
1033
00:53:08.030 --> 00:53:12.030
bit later. But I think Floyd, Haywood Floyd was a
1034
00:53:12.110 --> 00:53:14.440
cool guy running that meeting. Any questions? That is a
1035
00:53:14.460 --> 00:53:17.019
good point you make, Griffin. It's like, oh, he wasn't
1036
00:53:17.059 --> 00:53:21.260
really asking. He was just checking off a box there.
1037
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.400
Oh, no. He was told to go there and just
1038
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:25.619
lay it on the line.
1039
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:31.250
And I think that scene when they get to the– Lunar, whatever.
1040
00:53:31.590 --> 00:53:32.150
Clavius.
1041
00:53:32.530 --> 00:53:35.090
When they get to Clavius, they all go down there
1042
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:39.139
and they take a picture. That ringing gets going. It's
1043
00:53:39.179 --> 00:53:42.059
pretty cool. Maybe the monolith is just the best character
1044
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:42.920
in this damn thing.
1045
00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:45.400
Dude, that monolith rocks, man.
1046
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.719
I'm going with Heywood, though. In terms of my... Well,
1047
00:53:48.739 --> 00:53:51.309
let you guys get your favorites and we'll run around
1048
00:53:51.389 --> 00:53:52.090
doing six men.
1049
00:53:52.750 --> 00:53:57.190
Around Robinette? My favorite was Hal. I get up to Hal.
1050
00:53:57.670 --> 00:54:01.429
No kidding. I just... I was really compelled by the
1051
00:54:01.489 --> 00:54:07.829
whole story of Hal's existence and some of Hal's internal struggles.
1052
00:54:08.369 --> 00:54:09.550
Yeah.
1053
00:54:09.989 --> 00:54:13.710
I also had Hal. Hal was, to me... Yeah, you.
1054
00:54:13.670 --> 00:54:15.280
All got the right... That's the right choice.
1055
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.199
I thought we'd... I mean, I love the line, my
1056
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.679
mind is going, I can feel it, I'm afraid.
1057
00:54:20.699 --> 00:54:26.300
I can feel it. Dave was erasing his memory. I mean,
1058
00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:28.789
it was just... it was, it was cool. It was
1059
00:54:28.849 --> 00:54:29.989
a very cool scene.
1060
00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:30.670
Yeah.
1061
00:54:30.690 --> 00:54:34.840
All right. Six man. I'll go again. I'm giving this
1062
00:54:35.010 --> 00:54:41.119
one to our, um, prescribed cocaine and heroin addict. I'm
1063
00:54:41.139 --> 00:54:44.639
giving it to moon watcher is what they call him.
1064
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.550
Moon watcher kicks some ass, man. I love that scene
1065
00:54:47.590 --> 00:54:51.769
when he's smacking the, uh, I guess the bones of
1066
00:54:51.809 --> 00:54:54.760
the head and he just, And then they go up, man.
1067
00:54:54.780 --> 00:54:56.360
God, he hit the hell out of that dude.
1068
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:57.039
Yeah.
1069
00:54:57.219 --> 00:54:58.429
They started beating on that guy.
1070
00:54:58.449 --> 00:54:59.989
They started clubbing his ass.
1071
00:55:02.809 --> 00:55:04.130
They beat on him, dude.
1072
00:55:04.369 --> 00:55:06.829
Yeah, they did whoop his ass. But I got Moonwatcher.
1073
00:55:06.989 --> 00:55:08.250
Nothing else to report.
1074
00:55:08.690 --> 00:55:08.909
Yeah.
1075
00:55:09.230 --> 00:55:12.159
I took the monolith myself, man. There he is.
1076
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:12.929
There's the pic.
1077
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.159
You know what I mean? It's just that thing is
1078
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:20.380
so strange. It's so eerie. And is this a good
1079
00:55:20.420 --> 00:55:22.320
time to say what it actually is?
1080
00:55:22.820 --> 00:55:23.199
Go for it.
1081
00:55:24.090 --> 00:55:27.570
Yeah, of course I read about this. So the whole
1082
00:55:27.730 --> 00:55:34.150
idea is there are these aliens that we're trying to reach.
1083
00:55:34.769 --> 00:55:37.789
There's some sort of signal coming from Saturn. So we're like, God,
1084
00:55:37.829 --> 00:55:39.889
we got to make this trip to Saturn because there's
1085
00:55:39.949 --> 00:55:43.869
intelligent life. We found this monolith buried on the moon.
1086
00:55:43.989 --> 00:55:45.070
It was going to be Saturn.
1087
00:55:45.130 --> 00:55:47.679
Oh, did I say Saturn? Yeah, I apologize.
1088
00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:51.079
It was supposed to be Saturn until they couldn't accurately
1089
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.119
recreate it. The rings.
1090
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:56.659
Yeah, you're exactly right. No, you're right, Os. It was Jupiter.
1091
00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:00.460
But there's this monolith that's been buried on the moon
1092
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.219
for four million years. So all of a sudden we
1093
00:56:03.260 --> 00:56:05.039
know there's intelligent life. It was deliberately put there.
1094
00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:06.360
Yeah.
1095
00:56:07.190 --> 00:56:11.010
Intelligent life out in the universe. What you don't realize,
1096
00:56:11.250 --> 00:56:16.889
the aliens are so evolved. They're so beyond that they
1097
00:56:17.010 --> 00:56:20.730
actually are just energy. They're essentially spirits. Consciousness. You'll never
1098
00:56:20.889 --> 00:56:26.760
see them. Yeah, it's a consciousness. They created these monuments,
1099
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:34.409
these monoliths, as essentially machines to carry out their own desires.
1100
00:56:34.510 --> 00:56:38.469
So these monoliths are going to these places where evolution
1101
00:56:38.510 --> 00:56:42.469
is possible, and they're sparking evolution. That's why you see
1102
00:56:42.489 --> 00:56:47.039
it with the monkeys. and that's why you see it
1103
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:52.239
in space when Dave catches it. The thing then shoots
1104
00:56:52.300 --> 00:56:58.929
him off to this space, hyperspeeds his ass, and apparently
1105
00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:03.429
that room that he ends up in, that Victorian weird-looking room,
1106
00:57:04.570 --> 00:57:09.489
what that is, Kubrick called it the human zoo. Basically,
1107
00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:13.840
that's where these aliens are observing Dave and seeing what
1108
00:57:13.860 --> 00:57:16.900
the heck is going on with this guy, lo and behold,
1109
00:57:16.940 --> 00:57:21.550
right before he dies, the monolith appears again. It shoots
1110
00:57:21.610 --> 00:57:25.070
him into the next evolution of humanity. And what is that?
1111
00:57:25.130 --> 00:57:32.849
It's the space baby getting closer to being its own energy, consciousness,
1112
00:57:32.889 --> 00:57:37.440
without a corporeal form. It sounds crazy, but that's the idea,
1113
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:41.179
is that these aliens that we don't see were trying
1114
00:57:41.260 --> 00:57:46.579
to evolve humanity. That was the whole goal. These monoliths
1115
00:57:46.820 --> 00:57:51.840
assist with creating this evolution in other species, and that's
1116
00:57:51.909 --> 00:57:53.699
what Dave is at the end of the movie, is
1117
00:57:53.739 --> 00:57:56.349
he is an evolution of man.
1118
00:57:56.829 --> 00:57:58.750
I'd say you put it to words better than I
1119
00:57:58.809 --> 00:58:02.630
would have there, but the idea of it stimulating evolution
1120
00:58:02.869 --> 00:58:06.719
is 100% where, you know, At least my mind was
1121
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:07.860
going with it naturally.
1122
00:58:08.820 --> 00:58:11.980
I mean, but even in demystifying it that way, it
1123
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:14.619
kind of takes away some of the power because it's
1124
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.949
just– it's so strange being like, is this monolith the alien?
1125
00:58:19.710 --> 00:58:22.070
What is happening? You know what I mean? So I
1126
00:58:22.090 --> 00:58:25.809
decided to look it all up, and that was– It
1127
00:58:25.829 --> 00:58:28.219
was what Kubrick said. He basically said it's like kind
1128
00:58:28.260 --> 00:58:31.719
of a metaphor for a search, for the search for God,
1129
00:58:31.820 --> 00:58:32.659
something like that.
1130
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.900
Like I was getting at it, the idea of not
1131
00:58:35.019 --> 00:58:39.809
ruining the, you know, the mystery wasn't as prevalent, I
1132
00:58:39.849 --> 00:58:42.530
guess then, because he fully sold the answers out or
1133
00:58:42.570 --> 00:58:45.670
gave them that way, which I think does probably contribute
1134
00:58:45.730 --> 00:58:47.869
to like, you know, the conversation in a weird way.
1135
00:58:47.889 --> 00:58:50.820
But I think this is maybe so mystifying in ways
1136
00:58:50.860 --> 00:58:53.320
that you can still read outside the lines if you
1137
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.860
want to. But I think also the decision to not
1138
00:58:56.900 --> 00:58:59.599
depict the aliens, that was something that was very purposeful.
1139
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:03.000
And I think Kubrick asked someone about it or reached
1140
00:59:03.059 --> 00:59:05.590
out to someone to get their input. And they're like, no,
1141
00:59:05.610 --> 00:59:08.150
don't show them because it'll immediately take someone out of
1142
00:59:08.809 --> 00:59:09.269
the movie.
1143
00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:09.610
Yeah.
1144
00:59:10.099 --> 00:59:12.719
Just leave them as being completely unseen, and that's going
1145
00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:15.739
to work a lot more effectively. Pretty good choice, I
1146
00:59:15.780 --> 00:59:16.139
would say.
1147
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:17.960
There you go.
1148
00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:19.619
Six-man, Mike.
1149
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:20.980
That was my long-winded response.
1150
00:59:21.019 --> 00:59:22.400
There we go, six-man, Mike.
1151
00:59:23.460 --> 00:59:26.280
You are not going to like this. The sixth man
1152
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:28.380
of the movie, I went with the black.
1153
00:59:28.139 --> 00:59:30.360
Screen for two minutes at the beginning.
1154
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.699
Of the movie.
1155
00:59:31.739 --> 00:59:32.639
That's what I did.
1156
00:59:32.900 --> 00:59:34.519
Not even the color show?
1157
00:59:35.420 --> 00:59:36.820
I mean, it.
1158
00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:43.099
Gave the movie gas to me because I was upset
1159
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:44.039
right off the bat.
1160
00:59:44.099 --> 00:59:46.119
I'm like, Oh, man, this is.
1161
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:47.019
Pissing me off.
1162
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:47.969
He was watching pissed off.
1163
00:59:47.980 --> 00:59:48.800
And it gave it some gas.
1164
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.880
So I rewound it. I fast forwarded it. I rewound
1165
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:55.900
it again. I said, something's wrong.
1166
00:59:56.460 --> 00:59:59.480
I went back. I turned the show off. I went
1167
00:59:59.539 --> 01:00:01.500
back in. So it kind of.
1168
01:00:01.579 --> 01:00:02.780
Oh, my gosh.
1169
01:00:02.940 --> 01:00:06.280
Yeah, it really got me going. If you all don't like.
1170
01:00:06.300 --> 01:00:09.760
Mike's had enough of this woke bullshit, this stupid artistic
1171
01:00:10.780 --> 01:00:11.820
queer ass shit.
1172
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.000
No, it was– I'm telling you, it was– it's a
1173
01:00:17.099 --> 01:00:20.239
think piece is our boy– what's his name?
1174
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.380
Philip Seymour Hoffman. That was who it was. But he
1175
01:00:24.420 --> 01:00:27.179
was doing that for that Wong. That was great.
1176
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:28.719
God, the old Lester bangs.
1177
01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:30.079
Lester bangs.
1178
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:34.050
Lester did indeed bang. Sad sack, who you guys got?
1179
01:00:35.030 --> 01:00:35.989
Who do you have also?
1180
01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:37.369
Well, there's so many.
1181
01:00:38.070 --> 01:00:38.909
Is your sixth man?
1182
01:00:39.429 --> 01:00:42.909
Yeah, Moonwatcher. I told you he's been asleep half the
1183
01:00:42.949 --> 01:00:48.579
episode too. I got Dr. Andrei Shmazlov. I thought that
1184
01:00:48.619 --> 01:00:51.800
guy was a sack. Not much else to report, but
1185
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.739
he's not important enough to know the information. He's kind
1186
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.139
of– I don't know. He just read like a sack
1187
01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.639
to me, and that's all I'm going to say.
1188
01:00:59.659 --> 01:01:02.440
Dude, I could give you a couple of sacks. I
1189
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.199
got more here, but that's the one I'm choosing. Our
1190
01:01:04.219 --> 01:01:08.190
dude Frank is a sack. The computer shoots him off
1191
01:01:08.269 --> 01:01:10.969
into the stratosphere. That cat's done. You know he was
1192
01:01:11.110 --> 01:01:14.690
dizzy as hell before he died, too. Yeah, exactly. If
1193
01:01:14.789 --> 01:01:17.710
I had to pick anyone, honestly, I would pick Dave.
1194
01:01:18.449 --> 01:01:23.099
What happens to Dave, guys? Let's go back. Dave gets
1195
01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:27.940
shipped off to Jupiter, not even fully aware of what
1196
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.059
his mission is. And then what's he do? He gets
1197
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:37.289
hypersped to a human zoo to live out the rest
1198
01:01:37.329 --> 01:01:44.730
of his days completely isolated, experiencing whatever the heck he is,
1199
01:01:44.789 --> 01:01:48.400
not knowing what the hell's going on, to the end
1200
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:49.340
of his days.
1201
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.059
Well, it didn't seem like he hadn't into his days.
1202
01:01:52.940 --> 01:01:56.659
It's almost like he transcended. They did something to him.
1203
01:01:56.900 --> 01:01:59.949
Fair enough. Well, he ends up as a human.
1204
01:02:01.789 --> 01:02:08.800
World baby. I'm giving sad sack to Dave, dude. That guy,
1205
01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:10.000
he had no say in that.
1206
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.420
Griffin, I think you missed the boat in this one.
1207
01:02:14.139 --> 01:02:18.440
The sad sack. Again, I only watched 30 minutes. You assholes.
1208
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:23.440
The sad sack of this movie was the early man
1209
01:02:23.500 --> 01:02:26.079
getting cracked over the skull with a bone.
1210
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:27.820
Yeah, I got the club tape on here. I got
1211
01:02:27.860 --> 01:02:28.179
the club tape.
1212
01:02:30.650 --> 01:02:32.090
He got cracked.
1213
01:02:32.150 --> 01:02:35.070
He got hit a couple times. He might have really
1214
01:02:35.110 --> 01:02:38.019
been hit. They double, triple, quadruple tapped his ass.
1215
01:02:39.420 --> 01:02:40.949
Yeah, he definitely got smacked.
1216
01:02:40.989 --> 01:02:42.730
They made sure he wasn't getting up.
1217
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:44.440
Gosh, damn, that was good.
1218
01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:46.480
They probably ate his ass after, too.
1219
01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:49.519
Austin, how about run through themes and things for us?
1220
01:02:49.699 --> 01:02:52.170
Well, let's mention the ape that got attacked by the leopard.
1221
01:02:52.230 --> 01:02:56.130
There's a sack. Oh, yeah. And then the other three
1222
01:02:56.170 --> 01:02:58.269
who gets their plugs pulled by Hal.
1223
01:02:58.429 --> 01:03:00.570
Yeah, they are big sacks, man.
1224
01:03:00.670 --> 01:03:01.460
They never woke up.
1225
01:03:01.469 --> 01:03:02.210
They're big fellas.
1226
01:03:02.230 --> 01:03:06.010
They never left the sack. Themes and things. I got
1227
01:03:06.489 --> 01:03:09.260
four quarters with football coming up here because you get
1228
01:03:09.300 --> 01:03:13.099
that Donna man. That's one part of it. You know,
1229
01:03:13.469 --> 01:03:17.949
What is Clavius? What's happening there? There's that. 18 months later.
1230
01:03:17.989 --> 01:03:21.929
So let's combine those two. Intermission. And then you got
1231
01:03:21.989 --> 01:03:24.199
being at Jupiter and then beyond, you know, Jupiter in
1232
01:03:24.219 --> 01:03:28.619
the beyond and infinite. Hominids. Primal.
1233
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:29.659
Monolith.
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01:03:30.340 --> 01:03:30.659
Eerie.
1235
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:31.039
Score.
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01:03:31.139 --> 01:03:37.019
Orchestra. Vocalizations. Plot device. Space. Space travel. Space station. Sci-fi.
1237
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:42.039
As I mentioned, psychedelic fiction and science fiction. Picture phone. FaceTime.
1238
01:03:42.730 --> 01:03:46.289
I got that as well, Mike. AI, HAL 9000, The Matrix.
1239
01:03:47.090 --> 01:03:50.630
How about hard copies or paper copies, which hasn't fully
1240
01:03:50.969 --> 01:03:53.789
disappeared from lingo today. We still print things out and
1241
01:03:53.809 --> 01:03:57.650
call them hard copies. All right. Another thing that aged
1242
01:03:57.710 --> 01:04:05.400
well along with our FaceTime. Evolution, higher purpose, question mark. Silence, sound, auditory,
1243
01:04:05.699 --> 01:04:06.719
and clavious.
1244
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.320
The only thing I'd add is Kubrick.
1245
01:04:12.230 --> 01:04:12.690
Stanley.
1246
01:04:13.809 --> 01:04:14.889
And Monkey.
1247
01:04:15.469 --> 01:04:15.710
Monkey.
1248
01:04:15.909 --> 01:04:19.809
Austin, did you add hibernation and zero gravity toilet?
1249
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:21.550
That was funny.
1250
01:04:21.590 --> 01:04:25.559
It's a zero gravity toilet. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah,
1251
01:04:25.579 --> 01:04:25.940
that is.
1252
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.579
Oh, shit. Gravity shoes.
1253
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.320
Yeah, a lot of that. Yeah, grip shoes. Yeah.
1254
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.460
All right, guys. We got a couple more questions. And, well,
1255
01:04:38.539 --> 01:04:44.670
let's just dive on in. Is 2001. Space Odyssey, better
1256
01:04:45.429 --> 01:04:50.690
with Nicolas Cage. Let's move his head along. There we go.
1257
01:04:50.769 --> 01:04:51.389
What do you think?
1258
01:04:52.070 --> 01:04:52.820
What do you guys think?
1259
01:04:54.219 --> 01:04:59.980
I think this is a no-brainer. If I am casting
1260
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.579
the one and only Nick Cage for this, I've got
1261
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.570
to give him my favorite character.
1262
01:05:06.500 --> 01:05:09.360
He has to be Hal.
1263
01:05:09.420 --> 01:05:13.960
He has to be Hal with that magnificent voice of his.
1264
01:05:14.909 --> 01:05:20.969
And he would be so damn sinister in it.
1265
01:05:21.030 --> 01:05:23.809
The movie would have, they would change it, add lines.
1266
01:05:23.829 --> 01:05:24.250
I always say that.
1267
01:05:24.309 --> 01:05:27.280
What are you doing, Dave? You know, he'd be a
1268
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:28.760
little nastier, though.
1269
01:05:28.820 --> 01:05:32.659
His egg would have been cracked, you know? Like old
1270
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:37.420
Gary Busey. He would have been a little more unhinged.
1271
01:05:37.820 --> 01:05:43.320
Yeah, when he's pulling, I was probably like, ah! You
1272
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:44.739
want to hear me sing?
1273
01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:46.800
Damn you, Dave! Damn you!
1274
01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:50.010
You want to hear me? God, that'd be great.
1275
01:05:50.130 --> 01:05:53.269
Frank would have been blown to smithereens. He wouldn't have
1276
01:05:53.309 --> 01:05:57.170
just unsnipped his ass. He would have turned him into powder. Hey.
1277
01:05:57.230 --> 01:06:04.710
Hey. i honestly obviously yes this movie is better with
1278
01:06:04.789 --> 01:06:08.789
nick cage no doubt about it dude why not just
1279
01:06:08.849 --> 01:06:13.179
make him haywood get him in the coming in the
1280
01:06:13.219 --> 01:06:16.619
beginning he's the only cat who knows what's going on
1281
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.780
he's got all the authority when that goofball starts saying
1282
01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:22.480
hey man why don't you give me an answer he's
1283
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:25.150
gonna stand up and be like I'm not telling you
1284
01:06:25.210 --> 01:06:25.869
a damn thing.
1285
01:06:26.050 --> 01:06:28.710
He doesn't have to say his name.
1286
01:06:28.969 --> 01:06:30.829
He might just smack the guy right in the chops.
1287
01:06:30.849 --> 01:06:31.769
Blood is gold gun.
1288
01:06:31.789 --> 01:06:34.800
Yeah, I'd be like, are you kidding me, dude? Where's
1289
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.940
my damn straw meal now? You know what I mean?
1290
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:39.599
I think that'd be kind of cool to see him
1291
01:06:39.619 --> 01:06:41.940
giving the speech. You know what I mean?
1292
01:06:43.769 --> 01:06:48.050
Straw meals or space sandwiches? Which one are you guys choosing?
1293
01:06:48.389 --> 01:06:51.780
That was so weird. Green beans.
1294
01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:54.840
Hey, Juan, when it shows him at the end on
1295
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:59.880
the screen, you know, it's Nick. He might have to have, like,
1296
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.190
some discarded bottles of tequila in the back. You know,
1297
01:07:03.230 --> 01:07:06.150
he's just gone off the rails himself. He's like, hey, man,
1298
01:07:06.630 --> 01:07:09.889
here's the real mission. he like sent it up when
1299
01:07:09.909 --> 01:07:12.010
he was a little cocked he wasn't supposed to start.
1300
01:07:11.849 --> 01:07:15.750
Throwing bottles at the monolith hey flirting with the stewardess
1301
01:07:15.909 --> 01:07:18.070
you know telling her he could eat a peach for
1302
01:07:18.130 --> 01:07:19.150
hours you know.
1303
01:07:18.969 --> 01:07:22.510
Slap her ass hey he would have dropped that pin
1304
01:07:22.550 --> 01:07:24.289
right on the ground and when she bent over to
1305
01:07:24.349 --> 01:07:27.889
pick it up you know god he would have woke
1306
01:07:27.949 --> 01:07:30.329
right up from that nap yeah i mean i think
1307
01:07:30.369 --> 01:07:33.869
haywood's probably the the best pick like in terms of
1308
01:07:33.909 --> 01:07:36.610
like not having to make it funny he could just
1309
01:07:36.690 --> 01:07:40.239
walk right in and do that role. Certainly easy. I,
1310
01:07:41.030 --> 01:07:43.329
I struggled with this one a bit, to be honest,
1311
01:07:43.449 --> 01:07:45.750
I think how is the fun pick and I'm going to,
1312
01:07:45.750 --> 01:07:49.030
I'm going to cement how, because like if you put
1313
01:07:49.050 --> 01:07:53.360
them as Dave, you're not supposed to be attached to Dave.
1314
01:07:53.380 --> 01:07:56.739
And then I guess the same thing with, um, Hey,
1315
01:07:56.760 --> 01:07:59.420
we're not really supposed to be attached to him. So like,
1316
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.340
you're going to get attached to Nicholas cage. So it
1317
01:08:02.380 --> 01:08:05.090
probably defeats the purpose of what the movie's going for. So,
1318
01:08:06.059 --> 01:08:09.039
Maybe let's make him Hal and really make him, you know,
1319
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:11.440
you're going to really love Hal. You're going to be
1320
01:08:11.460 --> 01:08:12.820
really questioning yourself.
1321
01:08:13.059 --> 01:08:15.380
What if they made him the monkey at the beginning
1322
01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:21.300
of the movie? And it's actually Nick Cage's face, but
1323
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:24.000
he's got all this hair on him. Because you know
1324
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:25.680
he would make, he'd pull it off.
1325
01:08:25.699 --> 01:08:28.420
It's like the Predator. You would know just from the eyes, man,
1326
01:08:28.460 --> 01:08:30.140
that it was him. You wouldn't have to make it.
1327
01:08:30.100 --> 01:08:30.659
Look like him.
1328
01:08:32.609 --> 01:08:34.270
God, he'd be doing crazy stuff.
1329
01:08:34.390 --> 01:08:35.869
Someone's making dishes at Mike's house.
1330
01:08:35.909 --> 01:08:38.170
He might have done that nasty thing where once the
1331
01:08:38.210 --> 01:08:40.399
guy was down, he might have gotten behind him, you know,
1332
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:44.899
and kind of just exerted his dominance over him.
1333
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.000
The bone would have been right up that guy's ass.
1334
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:52.890
He'd have humiliated him. Look at that. He sat on
1335
01:08:52.930 --> 01:08:53.310
his head.
1336
01:08:53.329 --> 01:08:54.829
Oh, God.
1337
01:08:54.850 --> 01:08:56.819
A bunch of monkeys and they're not throwing shit.
1338
01:08:56.819 --> 01:08:59.960
You gotta remember we plan to get Nick on this
1339
01:09:00.060 --> 01:09:04.380
show okay I worked last Saturday I've got.
1340
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:06.960
Four questions five questions.
1341
01:09:06.810 --> 01:09:09.590
Already for Nick so I'm ready for him when we
1342
01:09:09.609 --> 01:09:10.710
get to interview.
1343
01:09:10.369 --> 01:09:13.289
Him so you know there we go we've gotta get
1344
01:09:13.350 --> 01:09:16.630
Nick on this show guys it's just a no brainer.
1345
01:09:16.590 --> 01:09:20.989
It'll happen it'll happen All right, number one favorite thing
1346
01:09:21.029 --> 01:09:24.039
about this movie, Gus, what do you got?
1347
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.100
The mystique to me.
1348
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:26.800
That's a good answer.
1349
01:09:26.819 --> 01:09:30.800
The music. The music in this. The music is phenomenal.
1350
01:09:31.300 --> 01:09:36.050
As Griffin and Austin, you pointed out earlier, without the music,
1351
01:09:36.569 --> 01:09:38.930
I don't think this thing hits as hard as it did.
1352
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.880
I think that music is just amazing. That music has
1353
01:09:44.939 --> 01:09:47.649
been used. I told you all about wrestling. That music
1354
01:09:47.710 --> 01:09:52.270
has been used in some James Bond movies. Was it
1355
01:09:52.470 --> 01:09:53.890
used in an Austin Powers movie?
1356
01:09:53.909 --> 01:09:54.470
Do you all know?
1357
01:09:54.550 --> 01:09:58.979
I'm sure. There were a few things that went on.
1358
01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:00.739
It's like, oh, this is a different song that I
1359
01:10:00.819 --> 01:10:02.640
also still know from other things.
1360
01:10:03.300 --> 01:10:05.420
Yeah, because there's like two or three of them that
1361
01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:08.789
I go, wow, that was from you know, a James
1362
01:10:08.850 --> 01:10:10.069
Bond movie where they're bringing.
1363
01:10:10.090 --> 01:10:12.930
Well, how Kentucky does it. Like, before games, they do that.
1364
01:10:13.409 --> 01:10:15.710
The big, like, when you're putting the cat up on
1365
01:10:15.770 --> 01:10:19.529
top of the pyramid, they do that. Yeah. He spins
1366
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.720
around the whole fucking arena, you know?
1367
01:10:21.859 --> 01:10:22.100
Yeah.
1368
01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:24.340
So it's still being used in those ways, too.
1369
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:25.060
Yeah, it is.
1370
01:10:25.619 --> 01:10:28.979
My number one favorite thing is just the presentation, the visuals.
1371
01:10:29.619 --> 01:10:33.439
It's just a gorgeous film. It's groundbreaking. It looks amazing
1372
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.119
for its age. It just is brilliant.
1373
01:10:36.180 --> 01:10:39.600
Well, Special effects too, like you said, Austin. I mean,
1374
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:41.500
some people are going to listen to this and be like,
1375
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.359
you guys missed the boat entirely. I mean, when that
1376
01:10:44.420 --> 01:10:49.989
stewardess goes up and down, does a full circle. That
1377
01:10:50.029 --> 01:10:54.270
was cool. What is it? Centrifugal force or whatever.
1378
01:10:54.289 --> 01:10:55.609
Yeah, centrifugal, yeah.
1379
01:10:56.229 --> 01:11:00.890
Yeah, exactly. It's keeping everyone up. Centerfuge, but I mean,
1380
01:11:00.930 --> 01:11:06.729
that stuff was amazing. When you're actually seeing Frank walking–
1381
01:11:07.310 --> 01:11:11.310
I guess the full circumference of the ship. Apparently, Dad,
1382
01:11:11.329 --> 01:11:14.970
they had to make like a 30-foot tall Ferris wheel
1383
01:11:15.489 --> 01:11:19.989
to accommodate that shot. It was so crazy and unstable
1384
01:11:20.029 --> 01:11:24.100
that there were cameras or lights that were exploding on
1385
01:11:24.140 --> 01:11:27.079
the set because it was moving around. So, I mean,
1386
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.800
it was just as dangerous as could be. But that
1387
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.600
was literally a set they built. It was like 30
1388
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:33.199
feet tall.
1389
01:11:34.010 --> 01:11:37.210
So well there's a lot of and we're not smart
1390
01:11:37.270 --> 01:11:42.210
enough or knowledgeable enough about what goes into making these
1391
01:11:42.310 --> 01:11:45.409
movies how they pull off these effects but just reading
1392
01:11:45.489 --> 01:11:48.270
through them it's like reading through a science textbook it's
1393
01:11:48.289 --> 01:11:51.149
like oh shit that's not i'm not remembering that all
1394
01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:53.239
the shit that they do to you know put these
1395
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.600
images on these screens like running the film twice putting
1396
01:11:56.659 --> 01:11:58.979
it over top of it dulling the stars that would
1397
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.479
have been there where the ship it like just the
1398
01:12:02.329 --> 01:12:06.350
the practical aspect of putting this like literal film, you know,
1399
01:12:06.369 --> 01:12:12.220
this isn't nothing's digitally done. So yeah, it's, it's really incredible.
1400
01:12:12.260 --> 01:12:15.220
The other thing guys is, is, you know, correct me
1401
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:17.539
if I'm wrong, but if you look at this cast,
1402
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:21.600
there's not anyone that you go, wow, they really stood out.
1403
01:12:21.739 --> 01:12:24.340
I mean that, that they were this fabulous actor down
1404
01:12:24.380 --> 01:12:27.060
the road. I don't, none of these guys, their names
1405
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:29.529
rings a bell with me. Yeah.
1406
01:12:29.569 --> 01:12:31.090
Is that, is that a fair statement?
1407
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.520
I mean, I'm sure the thing is this is a
1408
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.000
bit ago, so I wasn't around to see their prime
1409
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:37.979
or what they had done before kind of thing.
1410
01:12:38.579 --> 01:12:41.060
I've watched a lot of movies, guys, as you know.
1411
01:12:41.510 --> 01:12:43.430
I don't remember any of these guys. If they were
1412
01:12:43.510 --> 01:12:45.510
in movies, it was a very small part.
1413
01:12:46.470 --> 01:12:46.670
Yep.
1414
01:12:47.170 --> 01:12:47.529
Gosh.
1415
01:12:47.710 --> 01:12:50.449
I think that's fair enough, but that is it.
1416
01:12:50.489 --> 01:12:51.750
You remember Kubrick's name.
1417
01:12:52.130 --> 01:12:54.149
You do remember Kubrick's name. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
1418
01:12:54.770 --> 01:12:58.649
You definitely do. Yeah. But, oh, take a shot, Mike.
1419
01:12:58.670 --> 01:12:59.289
You made it all the way.
1420
01:12:59.310 --> 01:13:01.989
Well, I know. She got here. We're running a little
1421
01:13:02.010 --> 01:13:02.789
later than normal.
1422
01:13:03.229 --> 01:13:03.449
Yeah.
1423
01:13:03.670 --> 01:13:07.310
Well, what is up next? I guess it's Mike's pick.
1424
01:13:08.890 --> 01:13:11.529
I think it's Pretty Woman, right?
1425
01:13:11.729 --> 01:13:14.609
That's right. Walking down the street.
1426
01:13:15.189 --> 01:13:16.079
Oh, Julia Roberts.
1427
01:13:16.100 --> 01:13:16.739
I don't believe you.
1428
01:13:16.779 --> 01:13:17.479
Picture gear.
1429
01:13:17.659 --> 01:13:19.810
You're not the truth. What was the lyric we made
1430
01:13:19.829 --> 01:13:21.890
up when we were kids, Griff? Don't you want to
1431
01:13:21.949 --> 01:13:26.859
have sex with me? I feel like we used to
1432
01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:28.460
make stupid lyrics, you know?
1433
01:13:29.060 --> 01:13:29.680
Oh, my God.
1434
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:31.640
I think you said, John. Well, I mean, we were
1435
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:35.279
probably fucking like in second grade. You thought sex.
1436
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.420
Jokes were funny. Chick flick that I promised.
1437
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:39.659
There he is.
1438
01:13:40.020 --> 01:13:42.060
Yep. I told you I would do that, and I'm
1439
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:44.899
doing that for you. It's doing it. It's going to
1440
01:13:44.930 --> 01:13:47.409
be a fun one. Richard Gere.
1441
01:13:47.430 --> 01:13:48.109
Change of pace.
1442
01:13:48.739 --> 01:13:52.199
Yeah, Richard Gere at his best. Julia Roberts, I think
1443
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:55.470
this is, I might get beat up for this one,
1444
01:13:55.489 --> 01:13:58.930
but I think this is the absolute most beautiful Julia
1445
01:13:58.970 --> 01:13:59.729
Roberts was.
1446
01:14:00.229 --> 01:14:02.189
Front runner for Minx of the movie.
1447
01:14:02.250 --> 01:14:02.689
He said it.
1448
01:14:02.689 --> 01:14:03.149
Next week.
1449
01:14:03.289 --> 01:14:06.140
I just think she was, this is probably, you know,
1450
01:14:06.180 --> 01:14:06.689
when you say.
1451
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:10.819
What are her odds to win it, Mike? Like minus 2,000? Oh, yeah,
1452
01:14:10.859 --> 01:14:11.279
no doubt.
1453
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:13.340
All right.
1454
01:14:13.859 --> 01:14:17.979
Hey, man, well, I'll say this. This has been a
1455
01:14:18.060 --> 01:14:21.880
fun one, guys. Appreciate y'all letting me blab a little bit. Again,
1456
01:14:22.340 --> 01:14:26.970
I found a lot about this movie really intriguing and
1457
01:14:27.020 --> 01:14:30.350
fun to chat about. And I loved hearing y'all's perspectives. And,
1458
01:14:30.369 --> 01:14:33.470
of course, Purple Podcast, we do it all. We go
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from 2001 A Space Odyssey to Pretty Woman.
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Yes, we do.
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That's just what it is up in these parts. So
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Purple Podcast all the way. I love doing it. Love you, boys.
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And let's keep it rockin'..
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Mike?
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Hey, again, as Griffin, I mean, we've done, what, three
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AI movies in a row. Now we go to Pretty Woman.
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I mean, we can shift. We can shuck. We can jive.
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We can move it every which way.
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What was Under Siege? Was it AI? Am I missing something?
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Three in a row? Oh, I thought Griffin said three
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in a row.
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I must have thrown him off because we said, what,
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did we have The Matrix? And then there was another
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one before that.
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Kick-Ass was before that.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Who was it?
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Kick-Ass.
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Oh, I thought we had three, too.
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But we had the Odyssey. It was the Odyssey, Kick-Ass,
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Under Siege, The Matrix, and 2001 A Space Odyssey.
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Dang, I might be in The Matrix. I have a
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false memory.
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Well, you sounded like you've been in The Matrix this
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whole damn movie.
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Some of these words, I've got to look up half
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the shit you've said in this.
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God, Mike. Old man Mike.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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Boys, I'll see you all this weekend. We've got a
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big weekend coming up, so it's going to be a
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fun one.
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Yes, sir.
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All righty, guys. You all listening back home, if you're
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still here, thank you very much. We appreciate it always.
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If you haven't subscribed, go ahead and do so. Thank
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you very much. We appreciate it. Hope you had a
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fun month with the Purple Podcast this August. Hope you're
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excited for football season ahead, and we will be releasing
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our schedule here. You already know. Heard what's up next,
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but we'll be releasing the full schedule here soon as well.
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So look forward to seeing you in September. Hope you're
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still rocking with us. If you're not, that's all right.
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Just tell someone else to pick up your spot and
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come back again and check in on us. Why don't you?
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Halloween's right around the corner as well. It's going to
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be fun. Some spooky movies. We're going to really go
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after Mike's neck this year, too, with it. He can't
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hide behind Casper and Hocus Pocus this year. We're going
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to check in. We're going to get his ass. We're
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going to club his ass like old Moon Watcher. Well,
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thank you guys. We appreciate it. Thank you again and again.
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Keep living well. Keep doing your best. We'll be talking
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to you soon. And bye-bye.