Built From The Inside Out with Amy Lenius | Ship's Log #47

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So the victim has low self-worth, low self-belief, and they don't believe that their options or their opinions matter, or that they have the capability to get themselves out of a situation because they themselves are the problem.
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It's the victim mentality.
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The villain archetype, that's inflated self-worth almost, but low self-belief.
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They don't believe they can take the action to get themselves out, so they blame others and the world
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Welcome to Project Candor, the podcast where ordinary people share unexpected stories.
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I'm your host, Jeanne Andersen, the Admiral of the Unexpected, and today we are setting sail on a conversation that I think is going to resonate with a lot of people out there.
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My guest today spent years learning how to help others grow, but first she had to rebuild herself from the ground up.
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She's a personal development and success coach, a speaker, and the director of group coaching at Next Level University.
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Her work is rooted in self-worth, self-belief, and consistency because she's lived what she teaches.
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Please welcome Amy Lenius to the show.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me.
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I'm excited to be here.
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Oh, that's wonderful.
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So the way we do things is we sort of start asking questions, and then at the end of the show, we transition to two truths and a lie.
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So are you ready for us to start with the questions?
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Yeah, definitely.
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I'm excited.
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Okay, great.
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So before the coaching, before the stages and the podcast, there was a version of you that was dealing with something really hard.
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Can you take us back to that time and tell us what was actually going on?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So I grew up with a chronic illness, actually.
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In my early adolescence, I got really, really sick as I went through puberty and things.
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And I, through a long process of trial and error and different doctors and things, got a diagnosis in my late teens of something called endometriosis.
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And so it's a very female-driven condition, very hormone imbalance condition, and it, uh, has a lot of chronic pain, lots of inflammation.
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It can affect different parts of the body.
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And so I was dealing with that from a very, very young age, and it persisted into my 20s until I started making some changes and taking some different actions and eventually getting to a place where I have become happy and healthy.
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Oh, that's a wonderful synopsis but not a great story to have to struggle with 'cause I'm gonna add this.
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I have endometriosis.
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Hmm.
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I had it, and I think it started when I was maybe 14, 15.
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Yep.
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But nobody knew what it was.
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Yeah.
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That was the crazy thing.
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And do you remember days when you just couldn't go to school, or you couldn't eat or keep food down?
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Yeah.
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'Cause that was my story.
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Yeah.
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So a lot of women, it can affect, like you said, your stomach, and the pain can be so bad that you get nauseous and things.
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For me, it affected even the nerves in my legs.
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So my legs would… Like, there would be this sharp, debilitating pain, and my legs would just collapse out from under me.
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And so, like you, even when I got my diagnosis- late teens, it was still something that they weren't really sure of.
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It took a really long time to get a diagnosis, whereas now I think women have a quicker path to diagnosis because they're more aware of what it is.
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I mean, anything like endometriosis, PCOS, infertility, and things, I think the average is one in six women now deal with something like that.
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So doctors, I think, are a little more aware, although I do still think it takes too long for women to get these diagnoses.
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But back when you would've had something like that, and even myself, there was no information and things like there is now, and so we just had no idea.
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It's not like I could even go on Instagram and see, you know, what all these other women and young girls were going through- Exactly … and things.
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There was nothing like that when I was growing up, and I know it would be the same for you.
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And so it was just a very different time of going to doctors and being like, "Okay, here's what I'm noticing.
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I'm in a lot of pain, and my cycles are really, really bad." And I got met with a lot of, "Oh, well, welcome to becoming a woman.
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This is normal.
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This is just something that your body goes through.
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As a young woman, you have to deal with this." And it was like, "Oh my goodness, okay." And so I went, and I tried really hard to deal with what was going on, but I just kept noticing that it was so much different and so much more severe than the other young girls around me.
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And so I did, I kept going back.
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I kept pushing, and it took a few years, but I did end up going in for an exploratory surgery, which is how they diagnose it, and I got the diagnosis of endometriosis.
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And then from there it was actually,"Oh, this is actually your life now.
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There is no cure for this.
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There's nothing we can do.
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You're probably not gonna be able to have children.
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The best thing we can offer you are all these different pain medications, hormone therapies, and eventually we're gonna talk you into getting a hysterectomy." And it was like, "Okay And I sat with that for a few years.
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I went through the process of everything they told me I needed to do, and all the different medications and interventions, and a few surgeries where they go in and cauterize all the extra tissue that it grows.
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And that's, that's what endometriosis is.
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It's tissue that grows outside of where it's supposed to grow.
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So it's your endometrial tissue spreading where it's not supposed to.
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It's like a non-cancerous cancer that causes a lot of inflammation and a lot of different other symptoms in the body.
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And so I went for years and years of all the different birth controls, hormone therapies, pain medications, intervention surgery where they go in and cauterize it all out.
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But in my early 20s, I was in school for anatomy and physiology myself, and I was learning a lot and also still in so much pain, so much discomfort.
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Nothing seemed to be really working, and then I was getting all these different side effects from all the different drugs I had been on for so many years that I kind of just rebelled.
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I decided to go off of everything they had given me and start from scratch, get to know my body again outside of all these different medications, discern what was working, what wasn't, and just started playing around with different modalities of health, different types of, of physical therapies and things.
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And I started seeing different kinds of results as I gave my body that time of, of clarity, and it was a, a really interesting time of transition.
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I was already having the pain anyways, so I can know I can deal with the pain that I normally have.
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It was more initially a curiosity of what would my life be like not on any of these drugs, seeing as they're not working anyways.
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And then it just kinda grew from there as I followed my curiosity.
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Wow, that sounds like the story of my life.
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I mean, I didn't even realize every detail of what you've gone through, but I can tell you as you're speaking, uh, this happened to me.
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And if people are listening and say, "Oh, that's just a female thing," I, I'm gonna tell you, this is a powerful disease.
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It is powerful.
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Uh, did you have your f- at first what they call a laparoscopy?
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Yeah, so the laparoscopic surgery is… A laparoscopic surgery is they just don't fully open you up, so they make a bunch of small incisions, and they go in with all their little tools, and that's what a laparoscopic surgery is, and they go in, and they cauterize it all out.
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And it's a temporary solution that they hope gives you some relief, but it sh- it always grows back because you're not getting to the root cause of anything.
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You're just going in and clearing out what's there.
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Right.
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I was in the military when I had my first laparoscopy.
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Um, I woke up with a purple belly, and it was because I had been so physically training so much that it was muscular, and they couldn't pull it up.
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Not muscular anymore, but they couldn't pull it up, so they grabbed my belly to get the scope in there, and then, yeah.
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But they didn't cauterize it then.
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They just looked.
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No.
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And said, "Oh, got that."
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Yeah, initially they just go in and explore.
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Right.
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Right.
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So sad.
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So I'm sorry you had to go all through that, but that's the r- resilience of you.
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Thank you.
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You're now ahead of that game.
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Yeah, I think, you know, when you look back, hindsight's always 20/20, but people who have what's called high self-efficacy, high self-belief, are typically people that had to find their way through something.
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And so I have even my coaches and things, they ask me, "Well, was your childhood really hard?
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Like, what's going on?" I'm like,"No, my, my childhood was lovely.
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Wonderful parents.
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They're still a huge part of our life." Like I, I don't have that, you know, that kind of trauma, but all of my resiliency and all of the things that I do bring to the table now as far as my self-awareness, my personal development levels and things, and just the way my core wounds run me and stuff, it all, it does come from growing up with chronic illness, not being seen, not being heard, not being understood, and then having to fight for it on my own and realizing that no one was gonna help me do that.
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And so stepping into, okay, well, I'm gonna take this into my own hands.
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I'm gonna stop being a victim of my situation and start taking a more empowered stance and just trying other things and partnering with other healthcare providers.
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And I say partnering because they're only there to help you help yourself.
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You have to be able to do the things that they say and, and the things that feel right and discern which ones don't, and not take anyone's word just blindly because they have, you know, a few letters behind their names or a fancy degree on the wall, and they act like they know your body better than you do, and they might in anatomical terms and things, but at the end of the day, you know your body best.
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You know what feels good and healthy and right, and what feels normal and what doesn't.
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And so that journey taught me all of that, and it gave me a really empowered, self-assured stance that took me years and years and years to build, for sure.
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And it took a lot of, you know, doctors almost killing me and going through crazy procedures and all of these different things to stand in, "Oh, no, I know my body best.
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I know when something is wrong, and I'm going to fight for what that is." That is always my first and biggest message when we're talking about this topic, is that you do know your body best.
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Even if you can't describe it in the fancy terms, even if you can't even fully articulate what it is that's going on, you do know when you feel normal and good and when you don't And to have someone try and gaslight you into telling you, "Oh, that's not what you're feeling," or, "Oh, that's nothing, just go home," or, you know, insert whatever thing that is that they say here.
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I've heard so many horror stories from women, that it is important for you to fight and to keep going, or find someone else who will partner with you in your health journey, because there's so many different kinds of practitioners out there, so many different modalities of health and wellness, that you don't need to be stuck with the one person who said,"Nope, there's nothing wrong with you.
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It's all in your head," or, "Oh, this is just a part of being a woman," or, "Oh, suck it up and deal with it." Or, you know, it's this hysteria that we tell women that they like to experience, here's some anti-psychotics or mental health medication.
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And so it is very, very important for you to fight for your own autonomy in these kinds of situations.
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Well, you and I both know that some of those relaxants and medications make it worse.
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Yeah, they can.
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Yeah, 'cause it slows down your system so much, and that's where it allows these things to keep growing.
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But you're very smart, because I grew up late '70s, so I didn't Google, and I didn't know where to go, and I was not smart enough to do what you did and then just take control of myself.
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I just kinda let other people tell me.
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That's the way it worked for me.
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But I'm j- really proud of you that you did that.
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That's great.
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Oh, thank you.
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Yeah, mine was, I mean, in the '90s and early 2000s.
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And again, there wasn't that automatic, well, I'm just gonna go look it up on, on the internet and, and things.
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So I'm very grateful to have found a really great naturopath that helped me out and, and other people who were on similar journeys, who were looking to, like, detox their environment, let's say.
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So I did a really good job with this naturopath healing my internal environment and, and having someone come in and tell me- That your body is just, it's this community.
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It's not separate pieces, and I myself was learning that in, in my own anatomy and physiology courses and things, and it's like, okay, no one has ever talked to me like I'm a whole being.
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It's just about my uterus that won't function properly and causes so many problems.
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They're not talking about my sleep, my stress, my liver function, my gut health, and how that all correlates in, or even how my hormones are all out of whack, and maybe we should support them in a certain way versus just drugging them all the time.
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And so going through the process of understanding internal harmony and understanding that internal environment, that gave me a lot of symptomatic relief.
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I was able to have two beautiful children after I was told that I couldn't, and then I fell into this external environment.
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Okay, well then, what is my now next layer of this?
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What is my external environment doing that is for my health or against my health?
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And so it was a lot of detoxing from endocrine disruptors.
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It was assessing persons, places, and things.
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It was… It's a lot that goes into your overall and holistic health, and people always wanna hear, "Well, what was the one thing, Aimee?
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What was the one thing that got you pain-free from this crazy disease?" It wasn't one.
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It was a bunch of unsexy fundamentals compounded over a long time, a decade even But it was worth it, and it is worth it to stay in it long enough to see the results, and I think people give up on things too soon nowadays.
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Yeah, that's a fantastic story.
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I love it.
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The next question I have for you is, basically, your coaching grew out of your story of rebuilding.
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So how did you get from, "I'm figuring this out for myself" to, "I need to help other people figure this out"?
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Hmm.
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When I was practicing and I had a, a massage therapy practice and things, I had a lot of female patients.
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I did a lot of pre and postnatal work, and I did a lot of pelvic balancing for women, and we would talk.
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So many people talk to you on the table when they're in these, these almost vulnerable positions.
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They're lying there.
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They've got no clothes on.
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You're elbow-deep into one of their back muscles- … and people tell you all these beautiful things and then the struggles that they have.
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And a lot of women, I had learned, did not have a fraction of the information that I had about their own bodies, about their own cycles.
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Whether they were dealing with problematic cycles or not, they had no idea that they were these cyclical beings, and that their hormones ebb and flow naturally, and how often they were constantly fighting against them rather than understanding that they have this natural cycle.
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So I started teaching them about it, because it is something that had helped me so much.
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And I started being able to speak into these rooms of women, especially in the natural wellness community, the, the communities that really preach detoxing your external environment and supporting your internal environment with plants, like essential oils, and really quality supplements and things.
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I got to speak into those rooms and then onto those stages, and you could see women just nodding, just being so connected to things that I was saying.
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It's like, "Oh, my gosh, you're speaking into my life and what I go through." I mean, I'm like, most women do.
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And I learned very quickly that just because that we all struggle cyclically in some way doesn't make it normal.
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It just makes it common.
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But we're constantly told as women that all of these struggles we have are normal.
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Well, they're not.
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They're an imbalance of our hormones, of our internal state, of our external stresses.
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There's so many things that go into that, when in reality it's just very common.
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It's not normal, nor is it okay.
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And so as I started speaking into these women's lives and seeing them learn about their cycles and things and begin to live differently based on this information, it just became such a huge passion of mine to start even public speaking, which is wild, because I don't think anyone starts out wanting to be a public speaker.
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Most people fear public speaking more than death.
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So it wasn't exactly my intention, but I do, I do love empowering people with information.
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I love educating.
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And so it just kind of became this natural progression, and I ended up, uh, having my own podcast for a little while.
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I ended up having a group coaching program for women called The Peaceful Period Project, and that's when I started working with the guys.
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I was a client.
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So I partner now with a company called Next Level University, built by Kevin and Alan, these two just hard-driven, very integrous men who are dedicated to personal development and, and helping people with their unique version of success, and podcasting now as well.
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We work with a lot of podcasters.
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But they were helping me with my podcast, with my business and things, and I fell in love with everything they were doing because they kept saying the word holistic self-improvement And now we don't use that language as much anymore 'cause no one knows what the heck we're talking about.
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But I knew what the word holistic meant because I fell in love with it on my healing journey.
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My keynote speech was called Holistic Healing For Your Hormones.
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Holistic meaning that everything affects everything else.
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We are not separate from the things around us or inside of us.
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It's not just one piece of us, it's all of it.
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It's not just physical, it's mental and emotional.
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It's not just your internal environment, it's your external environment.
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It's both.
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We're in this holistic state all the time, whether we want to admit it or not, and it is either in flow and in harmony and for working for us, or it's working against us, our goals, our health, our mental state.
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And so they were talking about it in a way of self-improvement and success, how it's not just about monetary success, how it's about your health, how it's about your quality of life and your love life, and how they all go together.
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And I was like, "Oh, I love everything you're saying." So I became their client, started doing all the things that they had to offer and, and they even, you know, did free book club and monthly masterclasses and all these incredible things.
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And one day I sent my keynote speech to Alan, and he gave me some feedback on it.
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I wanted some, I wanted some actual feedback from a fellow public speaker,'cause it's hard to get feedback from other people 'cause most people are just impressed that you're up there.
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So they give you all the good f- which is beautiful and I always appreciate that, but I wanted some, I wanted some real feedback.
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And he loved it, and he said, "You know what?
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You have been a part of this community for a while.
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You, you know, love what we do.
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We love what you do.
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Would you ever consider coming down and emceeing our live event for us, for our personal development event?" And I was like, "I don't know how to do that." "But absolutely, I wanna come hang out with you guys, see what we can make happen." And I just fell in love from there, and I, I saw that I could have a huge impact partnering with these guys' mission that was so aligned with my own.
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And I know it sounds so weird to jump from speaking on women's health and having a group coaching program for women, teaching them about their periods and their cycles, to partnering with these two very seemingly bodybuilder bros.
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However, they had a full community of heart-driven women They had attracted all of these women, just like they had attracted me, because they are doing something really special in the world, and I saw how I could expand within what they are doing.
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So I am what's called an intrapreneur in their entrepreneurial journey, and not once have I ever been anything less than celebrated and supported to bring all of my knowledge into what they are doing.
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But they have also expanded my knowledge into being able, able to help people on a more holistic standpoint.
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So now I'm a personal development and success coach, but there's always a through line when I'm working with my ladies of, "Hey, how are we doing here?
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Yes, last week you crushed your habits.
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This week you're feeling like you can't.
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That makes sense.
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Here's where you are . Here's where you're at with your hormones and your cycle.
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You're not set up for success mentally, physically, or emotionally to be crushing your habits right now." That's why we, we have different versions of our habits.
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I'd rather you give me 30% than zero, and I'd rather you give me 30% than 100%, pushing through and, and overstimulating and overworking yourself.
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So it's all come into now that knowledge is a piece of what I can offer, but I've grown and expanded my knowledge in the way I can help people.
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So it seems like this weird jump, but if anything, it has been one of the most expansive steps I've ever taken.
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I just love everything you're saying.
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I'm just enthralled by what you're telling me, and I'm thinking here, like, did you ever see a movie called, um, I think it's called Hot Tub Time Machine or something.
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I don't know.
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It's crazy how I just keep thinking,"Oh, man, I need to get now.
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I wish Amy was back in the '70s.
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I wanna know all this stuff back then.
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That would've been such a different life."
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I appreciate that so much, and I deeply… I think when we're in a state of becoming the person we needed back when we were younger, I think that's a really, really fulfilling and, and purposeful place to be because I feel the same.
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I wish someone like me had come in at that moment in my life and been like,"Hey, you actually maybe don't wanna go through all these extremes first. Let's just look at your lifestyle a little bit and see if we can support your hormones naturally before we put you on all these drugs that have you, you know, as a high-risk breast cancer patient for the rest of your life" kind of thing.
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So I deeply appreciate that, uh, that compliment and that feedback- … 'cause that is always my goal, to be who I needed back then and even more so.
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Well, you're gonna help a lot of people.
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I can just feel it, you know, 'cause it's like a overlooked issue with people.
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Maybe it's better now because I'm not dealing with it, but, um, yeah, I just think it's wonderful that you're there for support for people that are going through something like that.
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Even if it's not just endometriosis, if it, if it's something else, you've got the right skill set.
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You know what to do to help them.
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Thank you.
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So going on a little bit more, a lot of people know they need to grow, but they stop bef- when it gets really hard, and you've been on both sides of that.
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So as someone who's lived it and someone who coaches through it, what does that hard part actually feel like, and why do so many people turn back?
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Hmm, they turn back 'cause it's uncomfortable or it's uncertain.
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So as we said this a little bit earlier on in this episode, that people don't stick with something long enough.
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They're not willing to do the unsexy fundamentals for long enough to actually see the results.
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And I think nowadays it's worse than ever because we see instant gratification everywhere.
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We see people who seem like overnight sensations or overnight successes, when yet you actually dive into their history, they've been doing something or building towards this for the last two decades.
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It just wasn't sexy.
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It wasn't highlighted.
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And so I think a lot of people are honestly delusional with what it takes to be successful, and even in the ways that make sense to them.
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I'm not talking about successful in a way of, oh, I'm becoming a multimillionaire and things.
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That also takes time But in anything that makes sense for you, success and health, wealth, your relationships and things, it takes time, and it takes a willingness to do certain things every day over time.
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And a lot of people don't have that kind of grit or time grace anymore.
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And when we look at consistency, I think that's where people get the most delusional, is they either lack in grit or they lack in creating something that's sustainable, AKA small enough to do every day to compound and leverage the compound effect over time to actually see the results.
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And what happens is, on this journey at some point, it always gets uncomfortable or uncertain.
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So in the beginning, it feels exciting because you have momentum.
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You started this new thing.
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But what happens when the momentum goes down?
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Because it always will.
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Momentum is, is not a consistent feeling or emotion that people have all the time.
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It is something we build, and it's something that is leveraged through different chemicals and things in our brain, and it's leveraged through action.
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But that action, as it becomes a staple in your life, loses that sense of excitement.
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So you almost have to be willing to go through all the layers of what it takes to be consistent, which is some days it's gonna feel hard and crappy, and you're not gonna wanna do it.
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That's okay.
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That's normal.
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But people don't see that as normal because even not only are we looking at instant gratification all the time, we're seeing things online where it's like,"Oh, if it feels hard, it's not for you.
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Oh, if you're met with resistance, maybe you should let it go." Nope.
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Building is on the other side of something hard.
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There is always challenge and adversity and different things that you go through when you are building something, whether it be a physical health journey or maybe you're on a self-awareness emotional journey.
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That gets really challenging as well because you start to build self-worth, which means you start to hold boundaries with your loved ones.
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And if boundaries are hard for you, that feels uncomfortable.
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It feels like you're blowing up your whole life, and you're gonna lose love from the people around you, so maybe you should stop, when in reality, that's the time to double down and go, go further.
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And be consistent.
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And be consistent, and then you get really lonely for a little while, and people don't talk about that.
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You can be on a journey of, of self-awareness, self-discovery, success, however you wanna label it, and it gets really lonely for a little bit because you're in a patch of feeling different, of acting different, of Evolving, and that gets lonely, and lonely gets uncomfortable, and it gets very uncertain as well.
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And so what is your ability and your relationship with things that are challenging, with things that feel uncertain?
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Because if you can build a good relationship with those two things, you will be able to make it through to the other side where all the results are.
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You know, you kind of, uh, already talking about my next question, 'cause I think the hardest one of those three, you know, you built the framework like you just explained of self-worth and self-belief and consistency, but I think self-worth is the one that most people quietly skip over and… What does it actually look like when someone doesn't have that, and how do they change that?
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That's one of the most key factors, I would believe, for myself anyway, I think it is.
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Yeah, for a lot of women, actually.
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A lot of women and a lot of achievers, because a lot of achievers have high self-belief, what I talked about before, that high self-efficacy.
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You believe you're capable of creating a result with enough time and energy, or if you have enough time to learn about it, you believe in your ability to implement it.
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You don't necessarily believe you know everything right away, but you believe you can learn and you can take action based on that.
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That's self-belief, the external results that you believe you're capable of creating.
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Self-worth is an internal game.
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Self-worth is how worthy do I feel of those results, how worthy of I feel of the standards that have to be put in place to get those results and the actions that it's gonna take.
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If you have low self-worth, it shows up in a lot of different ways.
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Some of the really stereotypical ones are not being able to keep the promises you make to yourself Not having social courage, struggling to be your authentic self in front of other people.
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That looks like, you know, laughing because everyone's laughing even if you don't think it's funny.
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It looks like you dimming to make everyone comfortable, or it looks like you inflating because you're trying to prove something, that you're worthy of being in a space or that you're… When people inflate, they're trying not to be found out.
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It's like I feel less than about myself, but I don't want you to know that, so I'm gonna act up here and hope you don't notice.
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So we either inflate or deflate, and then there's a certain percentage of the population that just omits.
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They're like, "Nah, I'm out of here.
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I'm gonna go into hyper-independence, and I'm gonna be over here.
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I'm not gonna do this weird social inflate dance that you all do." And that comes with its own pros and cons.
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But it's social courage, keeping the promises you make to yourself.
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But you become a martyr, a people pleaser very easily.
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You don't have any boundaries whatsoever, and it's really hard to hold them even if you try.
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And you struggle to invest in yourself sometimes, whether it be with time, energy, effort, or money, however that looks.
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And you struggle with comparison.
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You use comparison to a detriment, to a woe is me versus for inspiration.
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Those are ways that low self-worth can come up.
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But at the end of the day, you will at some point sabotage your own journey because you don't believe you're worthy of actually getting there.
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Wow, those are profound words because it really resonates with me.
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Self-worth at times for me could be, hey, why should I be special?
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Why should I get this perfect physical body when other people don't have it either?
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You know, and I don't think that's the right attitude, but it's hard to change sometimes.
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Why don't I get the promotion when somebody else is getting it?
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You know, there's all those self-worth things, self-defeating kind of comments you make to yourself.
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Yeah, and it's not uncommon.
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It is hard to change.
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It is hard to change because those are your thoughts, and your thoughts become your beliefs, and your beliefs dictate your actions.
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And so if those are the thoughts that run through you, it's about changing the thoughts and having the actions meet the new thoughts.
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It's a feedback loop.
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To create new thoughts, you actually need to do different actions, and to do different actions, it's gonna help you create new thoughts.
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And so too many people are just doing one or the other.
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They're all action-based 'cause they have high self-belief, so they're gonna leave this part over here because they don't know how to do the emotional self-awareness part, so they're just gonna go prove, action, action, action, action.
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And then there's other people who only feel comfortable with the self-awareness aspect, so they'll learn, they'll try and evolve their thoughts and different things, but without the action, it's not actually gonna stick into the identity.
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So both are gonna go in circles in one way or another.
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It's about both.
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That's very true.
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I wish I had come across that journey knowing that more than I have realized it as I've gotten older.
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You know, it's hard to, to grasp as a young person.
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The woe is me kinda mentality is easy to get.
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You know, it's a peer pressure kinda thing almost.
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It's like, yeah, other people are getting things and I'm not.
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Other people are healthy and I'm not.
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Oh, that's a really good one, especially for the through line of this episode.
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So that's so common in the youth.
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We see these egos, these high egos in, in young people, and a lot of them fall into the victim or the villain So the victim has low self-worth, low self-belief, and they don't believe that their options or their opinions matter, or that they have the capability to get themselves out of a situation because they themselves are the problem.
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It's the victim mentality.
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The villain archetype, that's inflated self-worth almost, but low self-belief.
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They don't believe they can take the action to get themselves out, so they blame others and the world.
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It's, "Oh, my opinions are the only ones that matter.
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My options are the only ones that are, that are viable options, and if I can't do something, it's not my fault, it's yours.
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It's not my fault, it's the government's.
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It's not my fault, it's," insert thing here.
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"It's my teachers." Again, we're talking about youth, so maybe they're not super against the government yet.
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But it's that.
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It's outside of themselves, and they get this inflated self-worth that they are worthy of results that they refuse to gain the skill to actually back it up in.
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And so you see that in young people really easily.
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They either get deflated or inflated.
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But as we grow, if you're someone who has high self-belief, if you're an achiever but you don't bring your self-worth along with you and your self-worth stays low, you become the archetype of the hero.
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You become the martyr, the one who wants to achieve and see others achieve as well, so you'll drag others along with you to see the vision at the expense of yourself.
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You'll drag people up the mountain to make it harder for yourself when rather it'd be more effective to let them go and climb on their own.
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But the hero can't do that.
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The hero doesn't wanna be alone at the top.
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So the hero will constantly serve others before themselves or serve others at the expense of self, and a lot of women fall into that type as well because we are taught early on that our value and our worth is for what we can do or who we can be for other people And so we see a lot of hero complexes in women.
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I myself was the ultimate martyr, the ultimate hero.
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But the last few years, as I've learned all of this information, again, through expanding my knowledge, not just from physical and mental health for women, but these mental aspects, these different types of therapies and, and all of these kinds of frameworks that Alan and Kevin have brought into my life, and then just that interest expanding into my own research and things has been amazing because what's wild is I have focused on self-worth now for the last couple years.
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I am just, if it's for my self-worth, yes.
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If it's not, it can't be right now.
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And that has brought me up into almost being just this entirely different person, yet more myself than I've ever been.
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And so self-worth is really, really important because if you can build self-worth and build self-belief, the guide becomes your archetype.
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We all have a home.
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My home is the hero.
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Some of us live in victimhood.
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Some of us live in villainy, and we all touch in on, on all of them all the time.
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We do have our little moments.
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We have our little pity parties.
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We have our little thing where we wanna blame someone else and bring it back to us, and we have our little hero moments and things.
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So we all do all of it, but it's where's your natural home, and how can you build into the guide who has high self-belief, high self-worth?
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The guide doesn't act from fear like the other archetypes do.
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The hero, the villain, and the victim, they all are acting from a sense of fear in some way The fear and the core wound and the unconscious beliefs and things, those are still a part of the guide, but they don't allow those beliefs and things to run them unconsciously anymore and to react unconsciously to them.
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They're conscious of them and then make a more empowered choice.
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The guide holds the door open and leads the way, but doesn't go back for others at the expense of themselves.
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Building into the guide is a really, really empowered state, and so if you can learn to build self-belief, build self-worth, and be consistent in doing that, you can start to see a huge difference in your life.
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Well, you know what?
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All of that information you've given me kind of knocked out the rest of my questions, but it's very valuable because you're sharing information that everyone can relate to and stuff that they need to know, and I'm actually gonna go back and listen to this a couple times'cause I wanna find out where I fall.
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Am I the villain?
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Am I the hero?
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And, uh, am I the guide?
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Okay, I wanna know where I fall in that.
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Really like to understand that more.
00:34:33.708 --> 00:34:42.789
And yeah, so I know you talk on a lot of podcasts, so you know, you've given us so much great information.
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So I don't know if you say the same things on all the podcasts or how they're different, but if you're gonna be speaking just to someone out there, a woman, it could be a man as well, uh, that is going through these challenges in their life with some kind of issues, medical, mental, just other challenges, what would you say to them today that could help them start going in the right direction?
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I would say that trust that your journey is your own.
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It's amazing that there is so much information out there, but what helped me might not help you, and what helps you might not help someone else, and vice versa.
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All the things that help someone might help you.
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So don't get discouraged if, you know, Bob comes up to you and says,"This is what worked for me, and if it worked for me, it's gonna work for you," and then decide you can't be helped 'cause it didn't work for you.
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Stay curious.
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Keep chasing the next best thing for yourself because you are in charge of that journey, and you are an individual in that journey.
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And find people that work well with you in that, especially if you're on a health journey.
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You don't have to settle for the first person who doesn't believe you or doesn't feel like they're on your team in this journey.
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And so make sure you surround yourself with the right people.
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Make sure you take ownership and responsibility, and to stay curious into what can help you because there is countless remedies, practices, practitioners, and different things out there.
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Don't write them off unless you've tried them.
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That would be it, and give yourself the gift of time.
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Consistency over time, especially on a physical healing journey, your body heals things on the inside that you can't subjectively perceive yet because it's so deep in there.
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You need to give it time to start even giving yourself symptomatic relief.
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But there's stuff going on all the time that you can't perceive yet, so give it time to compound within you and to compound into your identity and into your life.
00:36:30.135 --> 00:36:33.784
What would you say to people, though, about some level of discernment?
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Because there is a lot of information out there, and you're saying try some, some might not work, then, you know, just offload that and just give it a try.
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But it might not work for you, but give it a try.
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How would you get through the YouTube feeds, the Google searches that have a plethora of information, and how do you discern through that before starting out deciding that if you shave your head, then obviously it's gonna help your brain?
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Yeah, I know.
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I know.
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Be more focused.
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You know, that craziness.
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I know, and you know what?
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Isn't that almost the gift of the age that we were brought up in a little bit, is that we didn't have to sift through all of that because there only was so much?
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That is such a great question because, yeah, I actually believe that there was a time in my youth where I would have… If someone said, "Hey, Amy, put a toad in a cage at the end of your bed and dance around it naked on a full moon and you'll feel better," I'd have frigging tried it.
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I'd have tried it because I was desperate.
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I was in so much pain.
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However, that might have been a waste of my time, so let's be discerning.
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I believe in people- I believe in people so much, and so I think you should find people that you genuinely feel connected with who have the results that you would like to have, and people who also have the humility to say that they don't know everything.
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They don't know everything.
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They know this, and that thing might help you, it might not, but let's see if it does, and I wanna support you on that journey.
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The second you go to someone who says,"I know it all. Absolutely. The thing I have is for you," red flag, in my opinion.
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But also, there's so much AI nowadays.
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There's so much BS out there.
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Find a person that you deeply connect with.
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Find a person that has the results that you want, but also similar values, beliefs, and life that you wanna live.
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I shouldn't be going to a, you know, 20-year-old man who loves to work out in the gym for my fitness advice when I'm a pushing 40 perimenopausal I wanna work out from home woman if he believes that those things are the same.
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Be discerning.
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Right.
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What I can do is find someone who also believes in my lifestyle choices, who has similar results that I would like to have, who is maybe a mother that has crushed her home workouts, and I can aspire to be like her, or I can at least find someone who I believe can speak my language.
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I feel like a bit of a hypocrite there'cause my fitness coach is a man.
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It's Alan, who I work with.
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He's-- Both of, Kevin and Alan, started out as fitness coaches, but they always take my input on, "Okay, but when I'm on my period, I'm not lifting heavy." And they're like, "Oh yeah, no, that makes sense, so let's bring this in," right?
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Like, so wherever people can meet you but also can inspire you, and again, that real person connection.
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It is very simple to go down the YouTube hole and all of the things, but if you can find someone that you deeply connect with or a channel that you deeply connect to, start there.
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Start with the connection to the person because I think that really matters nowadays.
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That's really sound advice, and I appreciate it.
00:39:38.155 --> 00:39:48.215
But now is the time, Amy, that we transition from just question and answer period into our showcase of two truths and a lie.
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What a fun little thing that you do.
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This is exciting.
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I can't wait.
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Oh, great.
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So I will share my screen, and the way, for those listening, the way this works is Amy provided me with three headlines about her life.
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Two are true, and one is a lie, or maybe just a twisted truth.
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We don't know.
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But I'm gonna read those headlines out, and then I'm going to guess which one I think is false, and she will then walk through each story and not reveal until the end which one is the lie All right, so Amy tells us that she runs international coaching calls from a house on a dirt road in the country.
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That's headline number one.
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Amy relaxes by bass fishing and listening to metal music.
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That's number two.
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And number three, Amy drinks a coffee all day, or coffee all day to keep up with everything she has to do.
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So if I would guess, and don't say yet what it is, but I would guess number three, 'cause now after listening to her talk and her health and challenges and things and her rebuilding, I don't know that she would be a coffee addict, but I don't know for sure.
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So Amy, are you ready to take us through each of those stories?
00:42:15.385 --> 00:42:16.974
Sure, absolutely.
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I do.
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I work with a online company that works with people all over the world.
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We do group coaching.
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We do one-on-one coaching.
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We have book clubs and master classes, and we find that because we have an international community, it is so much easier to do things from home and from Zoom is our main platform.
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My biggest love is teaching people about their cup fillers, honestly.
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We call them super chargers and your cup fillers, and I think it's so important to have one that you can do every day, have one that you can do every once in a while, and have your super cup filler that's, like, a really big one once in a while for you.
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So typically that looks like maybe like a spa or a retreat or things that you can't do all the time, like concerts and things, but the everyday ones are the more important ones, if I'm being super honest.
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So the everyday cup fillers, but two of mine are fishing and crazy, complex music.
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That's two things that quiets my brain long enough that I can go and just refuel, recharge, and I love fishing, especially bass fishing,'cause it's precision casting, and, uh, complex music is amazing.
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And number three, I homeschool my children.
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I have property.
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I have animals.
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I have a husband.
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I have a beautiful, very full life, and an absolutely a caffeine addict to get me through all of that.
00:43:38.856 --> 00:43:39.536
Okay.
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Well, all of those sound so convincing, but are you ready to reveal the lie and see if I got it right?
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I am.
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Are you ready?
00:43:49.335 --> 00:43:49.646
Yep.
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I'm ready.
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It's number three.
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You were right.
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Yay.
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So I do international coaching calls and work with this incredible company.
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I love bass fishing, and I listen to crazy ma- like, music.
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It's the best.
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If I'm being honest, it's more like a '90s and early 2000s alternative would be my baseline, but I do love some good metal very regularly.
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And I don't drink coffee all day, but I am a caffeine addict.
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I need my tea all the time.
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Oh, tea.
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Yeah.
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Does green tea have caffeine in it?
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Yeah, green tea, black tea, white tea, all the teas except for herbal teas have caffeine in them.
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And so, yeah, to be a homeschooling mom and- professional here like I am doing all the things that I do, and it's, uh, it's a need.
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And I'm obsessed with my teas, and it's also a part of my wellness practice and a big part of my daily cup filler as well.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, what are your favorite metal groups?
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Oh, I love, I love the classics.
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Like, I, I could listen to Metallica all day, like those kinds.
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I could go into Black Sabbath.
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I could go into those ones.
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But I also then, like I grew up with bands like Papa Roach and Alexisonfire and like those ones.
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So I, I like older music, and I can get into my generation.
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Anything new I can't even.
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I'm, I'm that person.
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Are you one of these ones that are like a head shaker with a head banger?
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I move my body a lot to it.
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Yeah, I think it's so funny when I see those reels.
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They're like, "Oh, you can't dance to that kind of music." It's like, "Yes, you can." You can totally move your body to it.
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And after listening to this, this is so cool to find out that's like another personal aspect of you.
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Well, this was fun, Amy.
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I really appreciate it, and I know people are gonna wanna get in touch with you 'cause what you had to say was very important and, and very moving in some ways.
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So I have prepared this slide.
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Um, there's a couple things on it.
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One is a quote from Amy that resonates with her, and I don't know if you wanna go over that.
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I just think that's a really good quote.
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"Most people don't fail because they're doing too little, they fail because they're doing too much of what doesn't actually move the needle."
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Yeah, doesn't move the needle towards what they actually want.
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They're keeping themselves busy but not productive, not optimal.
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I see it a lot.
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And so when you can optimize the actions you are doing, it becomes fulfilling instead of overwhelming and where you see burnout and things.
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Wonderful.
00:46:21.815 --> 00:46:24.545
And these are your links that you provided to me.
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This, uh, website you have is part of your Next Level u- universe coaching aspect, and it says down here also a call to action is it's a free Facebook community dedicated to growth and self-awareness.
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I don't know if you wanna say more about it, but it sounds fantastic.
00:46:40.096 --> 00:46:40.505
Yeah.
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We have a Facebook community that's free.
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Next Level University does a lot of free things.
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We believe in free value in the world, and going on podcasts is actually one of the things we do in the name of that free value.
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And so, I mean, we have free book club every week, growth-oriented book club.
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We do master classes every month.
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But our group coaching is very much dedicated to podcasters and heart-driven podcasters getting their message out there and learning to be successful through their podcast 'cause we believe in their message and we wanna see them win so much.
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And so we do offer a lot.
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But even if anything resonated with you today and you just wanna hear more about how to build self-belief, self-worth unique to you, consistency and things, I'm an open book.
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You can reach out to me on Facebook or Instagram anytime.
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Oh, that's so great to provide that.
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Thank you.
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So for the listeners, I hope you will join us again next week for another guest.
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And I, I want to thank Amy, uh, especially for being on today, uh, 'cause those are the kind of guests we really, really appreciate being on the show.
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For everyone out there, uh, this is Jeanne Andersen, your host, the admiral of the unexpected.
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And until I see you again or hear you again , smooth sailing.
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Bye.
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Thank you.
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