S6 EP4: Alesha Dixon

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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to
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Parenting Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss
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what it's really like to be a parent which I
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would say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we're chatting to a famous parent about how.
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They're coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing Hello, you're
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listening to Parenting Hell with... That was cute.
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Okay, so here is my 21-month-old caddy attempting the intro.
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I've waited so long for her to do a decent
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enough job to send in. Can Rob guess the language
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and where we're from?
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Well, I think that's Welsh. I'd say Southern Wales.
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No, we live in North Wales, so she speaks mainly
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Welsh and some English, as taught by Dougie and Bluey.
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I've had a bad experience in North Wales. Did you? Well,
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a woman in a shop refused to speak English to
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me and I just didn't know what I was buying.
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And I knew she could speak English. And then in
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the end, I just left because I couldn't purchase anything
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because I didn't know.
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What it was.
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What were you trying to buy? Lube.
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Absolutely love the podcast. Been listening for about a year,
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trying to catch up while listening to the new episodes too.
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Just getting to the Josh newborn days. It's bringing back
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memories of a shit sleeper roaring back. Thanks for your laughs,
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you sexy beasts. Leo, 425 months. And Gary, 392 months.
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Lead bitter. From Caernarfon in North Wales.
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Caernarfon, that's where I was. Is it? And the theatre
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manager only spoke to me in Welsh as well. Oh, right.
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And I was just like, what are we doing here?
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Surely, if the audience can only speak Welsh, I'm in
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real trouble here.
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Well, I was just like, look, I've not applied for
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a job in your theatre and moved to Wales and
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refusing to integrate. I'm here for one night. Please answer
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me in English. Basically, I just want to change the
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lighting slightly. I'm not going on Google Translate. We're up
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against it. It took me five hours to get it
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from Crewe. For fuck's sake, Carnarvon. And there's Carnarvon. Nearly
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went there by accident.
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Yeah, that's in South Wales.
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Beautiful up there, though. No, it isn't, is it?
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Carnarvon is in South Wales.
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Carnarvon, Carnarvon.
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Oh, there's Carnarvon as well. Oh, my God. Anyway.
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Anyway.
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Don't worry.
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I love the Welsh. I've just had a frosty reception
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in North Wales than I have in South Wales. I
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think they're a little bit calmer in South Wales, aren't they?
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I'm not getting into that, Rob. I'm not getting into
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that kind of discussion.
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Is that because you agree or not?
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It's because I think all of the Welsh are great.
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I know. I love the Welsh, but I find it's
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more laid back. From Gareth Bale to Hugh Edwards. It's
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more laid back in South Wales, I think. Well, get
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Ellis on and ask him. He's from South Wales. He's
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very laid back. Yes. Very laid back. A lot of
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my friends, Lou's family are from South Wales. And my
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mates from South, my mate Luke's from Swansea. And they're
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very chilled.
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He's a Swan.
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Yeah.
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Big Swansea fan.
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Absolutely.
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He was a fan of Ellis James when Ellis James
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was on the forums.
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Oh, my word.
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I know. He actually went and listened to Ellis James.
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I saw him at a game once and wanted to
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say hello because I remember him on the forums. This
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was before Ellis was famous on Swansea forums, before he
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even did comedy.
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Yeah, I know. He used to have an office job
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and he'd just argue on Swansea forums. What a loser.
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I thought you loved all the Welsh.
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I don't.
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I'll tell you where, though. Have you ever been to Aberystwyth?
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The windiest place after Aberdeen.
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It's the windiest place in the world, isn't it?
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And when I went there, there was some sort of
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council problem where there was no parking attendance. You could
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park where you want. It was absolute carnage.
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Rob, make your mind up on parking attendance. LAUGHTER Last week,
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you don't like them. Today, suddenly... Do you know what?
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I love the law, but sometimes you need a bit
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of leniency.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right, go on, sorry. You need to tell me about.
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Where did your parents take you that you don't think
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they'd have wanted to go to?
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Yes.
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As a child.
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Yeah, where did you go? After we spoke about Holly
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Willoughby and Louis van Ruben dragged along to YouTuber boxing
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by their teenage sons.
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Well, my mum got into Plymouth Argyle because I wanted
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to go to the Games, which I think is above
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and beyond. I think that's fair enough.
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Oh, that's fine.
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Yeah we went to a uh panini swap shop.
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Oh okay yeah yeah i like the sound of this
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yeah before you could like do it online before you
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could do.
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It online there was an exit at west point arena
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it was i think it was or somewhere there was
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like loads of kids from around the southwest would meet
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up and it was like a panini event where you
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went and you swapped your premier league stickers yes and
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i didn't know anyone there and I was too nervous
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to go up to anyone, so we left without me
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doing any swaps.
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Oh, Josh, that is... Oh, my God, that's like the
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start of like a... You know how bad in a
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superhero film, that's how it begins?
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What, the swapper? The swapper. He kills people and then
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leaves a sticker on their forehead.
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Yeah, because he was too scared and then got laughed
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at by the bully boys, and he was like, I'll
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show them, and you'd kill people and stick a sticker
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on their head. They'll just be like a Gary Cahill
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sticker on their forehead.
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So that, this is even more nerdy. Go on. For
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a year, I was into Games Workshop, Rob. Oh, my God.
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Do you know what, though? Like, because I'm into little
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figures to a point, but that, like, the actual playing
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a game with them.
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Yeah, my mum used to drop and run.
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Even she was ashamed.
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She wasn't ashamed, Rob. She just wanted to leave me
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to play with my lead figures.
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She didn't stand in a corner with all her mates
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chatting like you.
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With some men in their 20s with ponytails who talked
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to us about our lead figures.
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Do you know what, though? I think that's nicer because, like...
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It was a lovely.
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I loved it. I absolutely loved it.
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It got an unfair rap where, actually, I would have
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liked that. Like, not all, like, the fantasy ones, but, like,
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the other little... I like my little micro-style figures, like
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a bit of Lego. I collect a few little... like
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wrestling figures and I've got these back to the future
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ones that I got from when I was over in Orlando.
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I quite like it, but like you couldn't like that
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without getting beaten up in my school.
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No.
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In fact, a friend we both know, Will Briggs, who's
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a comedy promoter, he got mugged coming out of Games
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Workshop when he was a teenager.
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Oh my God. What did they take? Loads of unused
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condoms out of his wallet.
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I remember my mum also taking me to see the
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film.
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Yes.
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I loved it. And then about 10 years later, I
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remember having a discussion with her. I was like, oh yeah,
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it was really good, wasn't it? And she was like, no,
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it was terrible. And I was like, Oh, my God.
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For all those years, I thought she had a great
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time at the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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Oh, well, she did well then.
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Yeah, she did really well.
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That's definitely what she aspired to. What did we do?
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Lou's dad took her to see Peter Andre at Fairfield
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Halls in Croydon.
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Oh, wow. What must that have been like for him?
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I don't know. I'll have to ask Mick Watts. He
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probably won't remember. But let us know.
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Send him in. Yeah, let us know. Let us know. Well, Rob,
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should we bring on our guest?
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So this week we have got star of Britain's Got
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Talent and ex-strictly judge, it's Alicia Dixon. Hello, Alicia Dixon.
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Welcome to the podcast. We're very excited to have you on, Alicia.
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Hello, how are you?
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We're good, aren't we, Josh? You all right?
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Yeah, very excited. Do you know what? We've never met,
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have we, Alicia? No. But my wife used to work
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on Chatty Man and when I said I was interviewing you,
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she said, She is one of the nicest people we
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ever had on the show. Really? Yeah, so.
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I'm not saying there's a lot of pressure, but what
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I'm saying is that's a good sign. Because it's, you know,
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it's a good sign when one of the production team
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says that as opposed to someone else. Do you know
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what I mean? It's always a good sign, I think.
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The one that has to say that, yes.
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Exactly, exactly.
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They're the ones that will normally just slag them all off.
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Oh, she's hated a lot of people, I'll tell you that, Alicia,
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but not you. You're on a pedestal.
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Oh, that's very nice. Tell her thank you.
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I will do, I will do.
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Well, I'd say, Alicia, because you've been on some of
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the biggest shows on telly, proper top dog level stuff here,
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and you're still likeable and nice. So how do you
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achieve that? Because there is a level of telly where
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some people get to.
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Are you worried?
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Can you score on this podcast?
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Say whatever the fuck you want, Alicia.
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I was going to say, just don't be a dick.
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It's really simple.
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Yeah, okay, yeah.
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No, just be nice. Treat people how you want to
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be treated. Yes.
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And have a bit of humility about you.
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It goes a long way, especially with Brits, right? Yeah.
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How is working with Simon Cowell?
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Nice. Actually, great fun, I have to say.
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Before I worked with him, I had this idea of
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what he might be like.
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But actually, in.
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Reality, he's a bit cheeky.
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He likes a laugh. He likes rebels. He likes people,
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you know, with an opinion. He just loves people. And actually,
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he treats people really well.
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And he's always very warm. So, yeah, it's good fun.
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There we go.
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Oh, that's good.
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That was a good answer to what was, to be honest,
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a bit of a facetious question that I shouldn't have
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opened the interview with. We should always start with what
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is your situation, Alicia, at home? What's the kids' situation?
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Well, I've got a nine-year-old who's downstairs on the sofa
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poorly right now.
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Oh. And a three-year-old who is at nursery.
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Right.
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Okay, that took a bit too long, Alicia.
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I forgot where she was. And I have a lovely
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partner called Azuka.
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Nine and three. That's quite a difficult gap, isn't it,
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a little bit? Because my brother was six years older
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than me. The nine-year-old will want to be doing, like,
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almost nearly teenager-y things, and then the three-year-old's a bit younger.
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How's that playing out? Do they play well?
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Well, I thought that leaving the gap was smart, right?
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Because in my mind, I thought, okay, if by the
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time I have the second child, the first one will
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be able to assist me. She can fetch the nappies.
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She can do all of, you know, I'll give her
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a job. But my nine-year-old likes to be pampered. So
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that kind of backfired. And also I thought, oh, the
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nine-year-old will be more motherly and, you know, big sister,
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look after her younger sister.
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They argue a lot.
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but when they're great as you know they are amazing
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but they have those moments where they they go at
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it and I just have to leave the room and
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let them figure it out between them.
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Just walk away and let them.
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Someone said to me, because I'm always trying to, you know,
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I used to intervene quite a lot.
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And then when we were away at Christmas, someone said
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to me, you.
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Know, their kids had grown up and they said, you
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know what, when they argue, just let them get on
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with it. Just let them figure it out between them.
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So that's what I've started doing.
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That's good.
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Yeah. Well, if it turns physical, though, surely the nine-year-old's
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got the upper hand.
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Which with my three-year-old, it does sometimes.
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LAUGHTER Come in, the three-year-old's holding down the nine-year-old.
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Even turns on me. So, yeah, you have to... The
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younger one rules the house, period.
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Really?
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OK.
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He's the boss, yeah.
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She is the boss. Don't mess with her. Yeah.
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Do you feel like... Because you've had a big distance,
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do you feel like you're a different person?
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Yes, and I've got more grey hairs and I'm exhausted.
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LAUGHTER Yeah, I look different. LAUGHTER I've had to practice
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the art of patience, and it's a daily practice. But
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my goodness, going from one to two was a massive
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shock to the system.
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It's so mad, isn't it?
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Yeah, because when I was pregnant with my first daughter,
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you know, towards the end, I'd lie around watching box sets,
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you know, chill out. But you can't do that, can you, obviously,
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with a second, because you're running around after your other child.
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Yeah, you're looking after a six-year-old. That's quite an intense
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kind of experience. Was your... Was your six-year-old excited by
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the idea of becoming an older sister?
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She was, because she came home one day and asked
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for a sibling. Yeah.
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And you got to it.
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Got to it, got her in our firstborn. So cute, actually.
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The first time we told her that we were having a.
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Baby, and she didn't believe us. She did not believe us.
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She kept saying, what, there's a baby in there? Are
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you sure it's not just food, mummy?
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Totally told her.
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Really excited. Always wanted a sister. She got her sister.
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And then when, you know, her father and I said
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to her about a year ago or so, how would
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you feel about having another sibling?
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She's like, no. She's over it.
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She is over it.
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Was it nice? Because she was in school, your eldest,
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wasn't she then, I imagine, when you had your baby?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, she should have been six, so she was in school.
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So did you have a bit more time in the
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day to sort of like one-on-one with the baby? Because
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we only got a two-year age gap, the eldest was
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still at home when we had the baby, not even
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sort of properly in nursery. So it was a bit
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like you were a bit split down the middle.
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That's full on.
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But when I had the second baby, I have to
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be honest, it was a bit of a whirlwind because
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I was working right up until my waters broke.
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Yeah, sure.
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Whilst I was working.
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Really?
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Is that why Simon Cowell looks so shocked all the time?
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And I, I honestly, yeah, towards the end, I was
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quite stressed and I ended up having four weeks earlier
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than she was supposed to be. And then I had
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to fly to America to film America's Got Talent after
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five weeks of having her.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my word.
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It was a bit mental the first couple of months. Fortunately,
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I've got a very supportive mum, amazing partner. And we
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just all, you know, we just got on with it
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and just made it work. So we were in America
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for the first couple of months of her life. And then, yeah,
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when we came back, I had the Christmas period to
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kind of relax. Azura was at school and then it
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was straight back into BGT in the January.
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So it was quite full on.
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And then was that COVID?
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Yeah.
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Well, actually, yeah, we came back from doing the promo
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trip in the Jan, and then I think we went
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into lockdown in the March. And actually, that period of
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time when we had that amazing summer, that beautiful weather,
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and we spent a lot of time together, quality time
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as a family. And that's when you know, that's the test,
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isn't it?
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When you feel.
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Forced to be with each other, if you can still
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like each other at the end of it.
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And we had a very.
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dare I say successful lockdown uh like yeah the fact
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we just got on with it and it was great
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but I have to say my my eldest daughter even
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though she you know doesn't want us to have any
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more children um she loves her sister she's very protective
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she you know she's been super helpful she's proud of
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her she loves showing her off you know it's.
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That typical thing are you panicking now because you said
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that she didn't want any more siblings you don't want
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us to listen back in a few years' time and
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accuse you of being mean about her. Was that a
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safety sentence there, Alicia?
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Maybe. But you know what? She changes every week.
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I mean, even the other day she said to us, oh,
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I think we should have ten siblings.
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And you just go, huh?
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Do you know what? I prefer the first answer of none.
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Last month you said no, absolutely no way. I think
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it's because of the fear of having a little brother.
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So she's like, I'd rather not, you know, chance.
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Yes.
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You can split, yeah, you can get a couple more
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girls to back her up in case there's a little
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boy running about.
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Yeah, but honestly, I think we're okay actually with two.
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I think, you know, I'd take my hat off to
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anyone with more than two.
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Well, yeah, because you had quite a lot of half siblings,
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I think, I don't know what the correct term is
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anymore because I've got like half brothers as it were.
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Was there a lot of kids around when you was
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growing up or did you not see them all? Or
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how was that? Because I find that because there was
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a lot of us, I quite like it just having
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two kids where Josh was sort of, you had half siblings,
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but you was almost the only child. You quite like
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it being busy and lots of people around.
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Yeah, I love life being busy.
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Do you quite like it a bit quieter, Alicia?
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Yeah, like I've got five brothers, one sister, you know,
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grew up with a lot of noise. So yeah, I'm
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probably more leaning towards the quieter side.
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Yeah, I've had enough of people being in the house.
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Fuck off and leave me alone.
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Rob's had enough people before the age of 20. He's
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done with people.
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There were so many people in my house. I remember
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once my auntie come to stay and my mum went, oh,
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I was about 14. She went, can you find somewhere
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to stay this weekend around your mates or something because
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she's coming down. So I got shipped out to my
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mate's house for two nights.
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I mean, I grew up in a very dysfunctional family.
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I mean, most of us did, right? And I think
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I always dreamed of having the classic 2.4 children scenario,
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you know, just something very simple, not too noisy, you know.
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And I mean, it's exhausting in the most beautiful way, though,
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isn't it?
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Well, I mean, still tiring with two, but the thought
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of having like four, five, six, seven kids running about.
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And some people make it look easy.
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Yeah.
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Some people are just born to do it, aren't they?
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Like they're just born for that life and they just
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make it look so easy.
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But I think when you're working full.
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Time as well and then trying to be present as
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a parent, that's when it gets a bit challenging.
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How do you juggle that? How do you split the
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parenting with your partner? So is he working full time
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as well or is he not? Because when you're properly filming,
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it's full on. He's a choreographer, isn't he? Is that right?
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Well, he's a writer, choreographer. We actually have a production
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company together. We work a lot together and separately. And
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we just, you know, we've got great support.
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You know, my sister works with me.
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You know, my mum lives very close by and I
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just have a really good support system. And I guess
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because I, you know, I represent myself, I don't, I'm
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in control of my diary and what's coming.
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Have you not got an agent or a manager?
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Yeah.
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Well, I had a manager for 14 years and we
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departed ways just over a year ago.
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Oh, wow. He was a good friend and we worked
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really well together.
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But, you know, I just really love the idea of
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taking care of my own business.
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Yeah, and the 15% back.
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Yeah.
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I really like the idea of that, more money.
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You know what? Honestly, I've always... That's very funny, but
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that's not what it was.
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No, no, I'm messing, I'm messing.
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That was very funny.
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I love the idea of Rob looking after himself.
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I'd hate it. Oh, my God, that is the best
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money I've ever spent. The thought of Rob sorting.
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Out his own diary would be... Your career would have
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collapsed within a fortnight.
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Within a week, I'd be in Leicester Square looking at
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my phone, screaming and crying.
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Really?
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Even since I was a little girl, I always used
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to write a diary for myself in terms of what
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I would do throughout the day. It was a very
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strange thing to do when you're nine years old. But
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I've always been very independent. So, yeah, it feels quite natural.
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So, yes.
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So I can kind of dictate the diary where if
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I've got intense periods, I can make sure I pull
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back and then I'm there for the kids and we
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have quality, you know, good time together.
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So it hopefully balances itself out in some way.
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So what's quality good time with the kids? If you've
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got three weeks off because you've just come back from
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America's Got Talent.
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Three weeks off?
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Well, no, a week. You need a manager. That's what
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happened if Rob was looking.
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After his own diary.
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You have three weeks off.
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Yeah, it's about balance. I'll have three weeks off over Christmas, Alicia.
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That's amazing.
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Rob is like a man who works on an oil rig.
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He's either working or he's not working six months each
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way a year. That's how it works with Rob.
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I'm a deep sea fisherman. But, okay, you've got a
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week off or something. You've got some time off. Are
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you going on holiday and doing something big or are
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you just indoors when they're coming from school and trying
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to do really normal, sort of almost just like being
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cosy indoor stuff? What are you doing?
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At Christmas time, I always like to go away, need to...
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you know, follow the sun. We were in Jamaica at Christmas,
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which is where my family are from. And it's the
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first time I got to take the girls there. You know,
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I think it was very important for them culturally to see,
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you know, where their, you know, their grandparents are from.
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00:20:29.109 --> 00:20:30.710
So yeah, they had an amazing time there.
497
00:20:30.750 --> 00:20:33.009
We always chase the sun, but then in the summer,
498
00:20:33.069 --> 00:20:34.789
we try not to go away as much because it's
499
00:20:34.809 --> 00:20:35.630
the only time.
500
00:20:35.450 --> 00:20:37.549
In England where you get lovely weather. So you don't
501
00:20:37.569 --> 00:20:40.009
want to then be away. Yeah. and miss that.
502
00:20:40.089 --> 00:20:42.490
So we always, and yeah, I love just doing the
503
00:20:42.569 --> 00:20:45.339
simple things like on Sunday, you know, it was raining,
504
00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.250
but I forced the girls to put their wellies on and,
505
00:20:47.460 --> 00:20:48.720
you know, we've got the woods near us.
506
00:20:48.740 --> 00:20:51.019
So we go out, go out walking. Obviously we've got dogs.
507
00:20:51.539 --> 00:20:52.279
So we just love.
508
00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:55.000
Doing simple things, baking with them, cooking. We'll pick a
509
00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:56.740
family movie to watch together.
510
00:20:56.769 --> 00:20:56.849
Yeah.
511
00:20:57.140 --> 00:21:00.190
Play games, like all the normal, simple things. They're the
512
00:21:00.230 --> 00:21:02.109
nicest things. They just want your attention.
513
00:21:02.150 --> 00:21:02.490
Don't they?
514
00:21:02.529 --> 00:21:05.029
They just want to know you're tuned into them. And
515
00:21:05.049 --> 00:21:07.490
you're not, because obviously when you know, in our industry,
516
00:21:07.509 --> 00:21:09.349
you're always on the end of your phone, you're always.
517
00:21:09.170 --> 00:21:10.359
Doing emails, working.
518
00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:12.259
They want to know that mom and dad have put
519
00:21:12.299 --> 00:21:14.900
the phone away and they've got your full attention and
520
00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.259
you're invested in whatever they choose to do. Even if
521
00:21:17.299 --> 00:21:20.220
they're sitting there, you know, coloring in and playing between themselves,
522
00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.460
they've They want you to see what they're doing. They
523
00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:25.079
want to know you're invested in them. So we try
524
00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:26.980
as much as we can. And like I say to
525
00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:29.640
Azuka all the time, when we're in the house, we're
526
00:21:29.660 --> 00:21:31.059
constantly working, but we've got to be.
527
00:21:31.019 --> 00:21:34.240
Clever about it sometimes. They can't always know that, you know,
528
00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:35.180
we're working.
529
00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:38.920
Sounds like you need an agent. I'll do it for you.
530
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.349
Do not get robbed as your agent. Your career will
531
00:21:43.369 --> 00:21:43.910
be over.
532
00:21:44.109 --> 00:21:46.250
I think 15% of just Britain's Got Talent, I'd probably
533
00:21:46.289 --> 00:21:48.269
retire on that, at least with being your agent. Is
534
00:21:48.289 --> 00:21:48.789
that all right?
535
00:21:49.049 --> 00:21:52.109
When you were doing America's Got Talent... With a baby? Yeah.
536
00:21:52.410 --> 00:21:54.380
How did you... Where was the baby?
537
00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:54.480
Yeah.
538
00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.299
Was she in the studio? Like, were you running off
539
00:21:58.339 --> 00:21:59.980
to breastfeed? How did it work?
540
00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:02.319
How we did it was, so the four of us
541
00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:05.440
went and my mum joined us. And then I literally,
542
00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:07.559
so we were in a hotel around the corner from
543
00:22:07.579 --> 00:22:10.539
the studio. And I literally would have her, I would
544
00:22:10.579 --> 00:22:13.819
be breastfeeding her whilst having my hair and makeup done.
545
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.680
I'd go over, do the show. My mum would take over.
546
00:22:17.700 --> 00:22:21.019
And then I'd come back from work and I'd wake
547
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.160
her up and put her back on my boobs.
548
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:28.609
Amazing. What an existence.
549
00:22:28.730 --> 00:22:29.710
And it worked really well.
550
00:22:29.809 --> 00:22:34.130
And actually the schedule was very, very, it was very easy.
551
00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:37.099
Like it wasn't every single day. It was spaced out
552
00:22:37.140 --> 00:22:39.440
quite nicely. And, you know, I don't know if you
553
00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:42.140
like LA, but I love LA. It's like blue sky,
554
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:43.009
beautiful weather.
555
00:22:43.029 --> 00:22:43.230
Yeah.
556
00:22:44.089 --> 00:22:46.490
Actually in a weird way kind of helped with recovery
557
00:22:46.549 --> 00:22:48.950
because we were quite happy to be there and so
558
00:22:48.990 --> 00:22:50.970
everyone was in a very nice mood and we could
559
00:22:51.009 --> 00:22:54.250
just like relax and you know it didn't feel too
560
00:22:54.329 --> 00:22:56.410
overwhelming it was more the idea of it that felt
561
00:22:56.490 --> 00:22:59.210
overwhelming but the reality of it it was quite smooth.
562
00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.460
So you were never knackered and taking it out on
563
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.420
the buzzer on the act, just buzzing them off.
564
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:04.200
Buzz, buzz, buzz.
565
00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:05.920
Come on, let's get this over with. I want to
566
00:23:05.940 --> 00:23:06.569
go to bed.
567
00:23:06.670 --> 00:23:09.809
No, it's more tiring once they start walking. When they're
568
00:23:09.829 --> 00:23:12.430
a baby, I mean, it's a breeze, right?
569
00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:13.650
I thought you meant the act.
570
00:23:13.710 --> 00:23:15.869
It's much more tiring once they start walking off the stage.
571
00:23:16.609 --> 00:23:18.829
Just put them through. Golden buzzer next. I need to
572
00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:19.509
get a feed on.
573
00:23:19.529 --> 00:23:19.759
Let's go.
574
00:23:20.819 --> 00:23:23.660
Honestly, I was so happy to be working on television
575
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.640
in America that nothing was going to get in the
576
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:27.220
way of that.
577
00:23:27.299 --> 00:23:28.519
So I'm a baby.
578
00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:29.460
Exactly.
579
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.609
The old American big break. How did you feel about
580
00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:36.950
going there, though? Because obviously, like as a man, you
581
00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:38.730
don't sort of think about it. You're having a baby,
582
00:23:38.769 --> 00:23:40.769
but like you don't actually physically need to be there
583
00:23:40.789 --> 00:23:43.279
if you're not breastfeeding and things like that. So was
584
00:23:43.299 --> 00:23:45.339
you a bit nervous? Oh, God, am I going to?
585
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.240
slow the production am I gonna be a hindrance or
586
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:51.480
was the vibe quite welcoming and don't worry Alicia you
587
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.730
do you because it is a huge juggernaut that you
588
00:23:54.769 --> 00:23:57.529
know for every minute it's delayed and slowed down does
589
00:23:57.569 --> 00:23:59.630
it as a sort of impact so how did you feel.
590
00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.250
It's a good question because if I'm being honest, when
591
00:24:02.490 --> 00:24:07.670
I first got the call that NBC wanted to have
592
00:24:07.710 --> 00:24:10.589
a Zoom meeting with me and discuss possibly joining the show,
593
00:24:10.670 --> 00:24:12.609
the first thing I thought was, oh my gosh, they
594
00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:15.549
know I'm pregnant. Because I thought if they know I'm pregnant,
595
00:24:15.569 --> 00:24:17.049
they're not going to want me to join the show
596
00:24:17.130 --> 00:24:19.130
because as you know, anything could happen.
597
00:24:19.170 --> 00:24:21.250
They might not want to take the risk. So we
598
00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:22.329
jumped on the Zoom.
599
00:24:22.109 --> 00:24:26.130
Meeting and I hid my bump. But the first thing that.
600
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.880
The producer said was, oh, we hear you're having a baby.
601
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.160
And I was like, oh, they know. Brilliant. Great.
602
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:32.720
And they still want me to do it. So that
603
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:36.519
was a relief. And then obviously, they were very supportive
604
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.920
in making sure that I could have my family with me.
605
00:24:39.539 --> 00:24:41.640
And yeah, they didn't put any pressure on me. And
606
00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:45.259
as I said, the schedule was very, very well paced out.
607
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.970
So nothing was too strenuous. And they were very understanding.
608
00:24:50.029 --> 00:24:51.650
And I'm sure if If, you know, there was a
609
00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:53.869
moment where I needed to go back to see the baby,
610
00:24:53.890 --> 00:24:55.230
they would have allowed that to happen.
611
00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:56.470
So, you know, a lot.
612
00:24:56.369 --> 00:24:58.430
Of women working on the show that have got children.
613
00:24:58.490 --> 00:25:00.539
So there's that understanding and empathy as well.
614
00:25:01.099 --> 00:25:03.220
Also, you did Australia's Got Talent as well. It's a
615
00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:04.500
long way to go for what I can imagine is
616
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:05.400
about half an hour show.
617
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.269
Yeah, that was actually... That flight was hell. That was actually.
618
00:25:10.289 --> 00:25:11.529
Talk us through that flight.
619
00:25:11.670 --> 00:25:13.390
So when did you go?
620
00:25:13.650 --> 00:25:17.910
So the first time we went, Australia... Well, we came
621
00:25:17.950 --> 00:25:18.839
out of quarantine.
622
00:25:19.299 --> 00:25:22.519
And then the day we came out of quarantine, Australia
623
00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:26.829
went into lockdown. We spent five weeks in Australia... Two
624
00:25:26.849 --> 00:25:29.650
weeks quarantine, three weeks lockdown, and the show was cancelled.
625
00:25:30.230 --> 00:25:32.390
Oh, God. Talk us through this, Alicia.
626
00:25:32.410 --> 00:25:34.279
Oh, my fucking God.
627
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.539
I'm getting stressed and it's happened already. I feel like
628
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:37.220
it's happening now.
629
00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:39.740
I had to take my daughter out of school three
630
00:25:39.769 --> 00:25:40.400
weeks early.
631
00:25:40.420 --> 00:25:43.569
I wasn't happy about, but they... put work together for
632
00:25:43.630 --> 00:25:46.690
us so she could do some homeschooling. Obviously, Anaïs was very,
633
00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:47.369
very young.
634
00:25:47.210 --> 00:25:47.849
At the time.
635
00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:52.240
And that flight to Australia, I literally had a meltdown
636
00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:52.920
on the plane.
637
00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:53.759
Oh, no.
638
00:25:53.779 --> 00:25:56.039
I don't know if you've ever travelled, how far you've
639
00:25:56.059 --> 00:25:58.049
travelled with a child, but when you've got one that
640
00:25:58.089 --> 00:25:59.430
doesn't want to sleep.
641
00:25:59.150 --> 00:26:00.089
On a 24-hour flight. Oh, my God.
642
00:26:00.109 --> 00:26:00.250
Oh, God.
643
00:26:04.150 --> 00:26:05.990
You start to lose your mind. And it got to
644
00:26:06.049 --> 00:26:09.630
that point. And I was feeling quite hormonal. And I
645
00:26:09.670 --> 00:26:11.109
literally was chasing her around this.
646
00:26:11.259 --> 00:26:13.099
Flight, walking up and down, up and down.
647
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.380
And at one point, I thought, I can't chase her anymore.
648
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.279
And I sat down. And the minute I sat down,
649
00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:20.180
she falls over, hurts herself, starts crying.
650
00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:21.359
Oh, my word.
651
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.059
It was just one of those never-ending moments.
652
00:26:24.789 --> 00:26:28.869
Like hellish moments where everything you could imagine that would
653
00:26:28.890 --> 00:26:31.470
go wrong with a toddler went wrong oh my god.
654
00:26:31.390 --> 00:26:33.990
Did you get any sleep in the 24 hours.
655
00:26:34.329 --> 00:26:37.930
So then and then you have to go into quarantine
656
00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:39.609
and you go into quarantine and you've got a mask
657
00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:41.730
on the whole time as well mask on the whole
658
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.000
time but the whole time you're having this internal conversation
659
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.940
with yourself going don't moan this is this is a
660
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.779
great opportunity lucky to be doing this you should not
661
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:57.759
be miserable or crying right now obviously i'm there crying
662
00:26:57.799 --> 00:26:58.900
my eyes out but.
663
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:02.299
It's oh man alive and.
664
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.059
Then a year later we went back and did it
665
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.200
all again but luckily uh we didn't have to quarantine
666
00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:09.589
didn't have to do lockdown the show was a success
667
00:27:09.890 --> 00:27:12.049
and my toddler slept on the flight so it was
668
00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:13.170
all good oh there.
669
00:27:13.069 --> 00:27:19.490
We go it's got a happy ending Another, let's get
670
00:27:19.529 --> 00:27:22.670
away from the every nation's got talent.
671
00:27:22.710 --> 00:27:22.809
Yes.
672
00:27:22.829 --> 00:27:23.349
You've sold over 100,000 books.
673
00:27:23.369 --> 00:27:23.440
Yes.
674
00:27:23.450 --> 00:27:24.549
You've got a new book.
675
00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:24.609
100,000.
676
00:27:24.589 --> 00:27:26.779
Is that good? That is good. That's a lot of people. Oh, good.
677
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:26.880
Yeah.
678
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.700
I think it's good. It's good, yeah. Either that or
679
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.319
me and Rob are bad. One of the two.
680
00:27:39.339 --> 00:27:42.339
I think we're doing all right, but we haven't done that,
681
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:42.819
I don't think.
682
00:27:43.339 --> 00:27:44.039
Yeah, exactly.
683
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:45.960
Oh, thank you.
684
00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:49.380
Basically, it goes us, Alicia, Prince Harry, and then Richard Osman.
685
00:27:49.569 --> 00:27:49.700
Yeah.
686
00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.690
I mean, I think David Walliams sells probably about 100,000
687
00:27:53.690 --> 00:27:54.369
books in a week.
688
00:27:54.450 --> 00:27:56.609
Yeah, yeah. I suppose you've got, the problem is you're
689
00:27:56.630 --> 00:27:59.400
sat next to someone who's the biggest. But to give
690
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.480
you your due, you are the biggest selling middle grade
691
00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:07.430
debut author of 2018. Can David Walliams say that?
692
00:28:07.630 --> 00:28:08.710
That's quite cool, isn't it?
693
00:28:08.849 --> 00:28:09.150
Yeah.
694
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:11.789
That is quite cool. And now you've got a new book,
695
00:28:11.890 --> 00:28:16.269
Lunar Wolf Animal Wizard. So middle grade, does that mean
696
00:28:16.309 --> 00:28:19.140
kind of early teen? Is that what we're looking at?
697
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:19.960
Seven plus.
698
00:28:20.299 --> 00:28:21.900
Seven plus.
699
00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:24.460
I would say between about seven and 12. Like my
700
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:29.470
daughter is nine. And she only just picked up my
701
00:28:29.609 --> 00:28:32.609
first book, which was Lightning Girl.
702
00:28:32.670 --> 00:28:34.049
Which I wrote back in 2018, obviously.
703
00:28:34.069 --> 00:28:37.440
And it's only now she's just starting to get interest.
704
00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:39.619
But obviously, if you've got like young readers that are
705
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.470
really interested in books, from the age of, you know, seven,
706
00:28:42.549 --> 00:28:44.819
then yeah, they can get into these books. It's that really,
707
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.160
it's a really cute age actually, because they're very inquisitive
708
00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:52.619
and their little imaginations are still running wild. And they're,
709
00:28:52.740 --> 00:28:54.619
you know, they're at that lovely sweet spot where you
710
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.900
can kind of have fun with that age group. Yeah.
711
00:28:57.059 --> 00:28:59.720
And does it, what did it feel like when your
712
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.180
daughter picked up your book? Did we nervous?
713
00:29:02.220 --> 00:29:04.009
Was it exciting? Yeah.
714
00:29:04.049 --> 00:29:05.190
It was like job done.
715
00:29:05.789 --> 00:29:08.369
She was part of the inspiration why I wanted to
716
00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:11.970
do children's books in the first place. reading to her
717
00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:14.730
every day looking at the kind of characters she's into
718
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:17.170
you know not feeling like she's reading books that really
719
00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:20.269
reflect who she is and her culture and that was
720
00:29:20.309 --> 00:29:22.210
a big deal for me and I'm very much one
721
00:29:22.230 --> 00:29:24.029
of these people that's like if you don't like it
722
00:29:24.190 --> 00:29:26.130
just get on with it and do it yourself so
723
00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:29.670
I'm going to create characters that my children and hopefully
724
00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:33.289
you know thousands of other young children can see themselves
725
00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:36.049
in feel represented feel included and you know what it's
726
00:29:36.349 --> 00:29:38.750
kind of surpassed that now it's really just about writing
727
00:29:39.109 --> 00:29:41.119
good stories that can with people that's.
728
00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.079
Very inspiring that you know your daughter can pick up
729
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.069
a book that you've written and it sort of you
730
00:29:45.089 --> 00:29:47.890
know speaks to her sort of culture and identity and
731
00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:50.250
things like that whereas my children picked up my autobiography
732
00:29:50.289 --> 00:29:51.549
and learned the word piss.
733
00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:56.920
How old's your daughter 23.
734
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:01.289
Oh! No, I'm joking. She's seven.
735
00:30:02.250 --> 00:30:02.869
In Eldings.
736
00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:03.710
Have I got you there?
737
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.140
I was thinking, hold on a minute, I thought you
738
00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:10.940
were really young.
739
00:30:11.099 --> 00:30:15.529
I'm youngish. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, that's amazing. Your new
740
00:30:15.589 --> 00:30:19.210
one's Lunar Wolf, and you love animals. You've got rescue dogs,
741
00:30:19.269 --> 00:30:21.829
is that right? You've got a couple of Spaniels. Oh, yeah.
742
00:30:21.869 --> 00:30:23.670
Well, we used to have seven at one point.
743
00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:24.369
Whoa.
744
00:30:24.609 --> 00:30:25.210
Yeah, I know.
745
00:30:25.230 --> 00:30:26.529
I thought you liked a quiet house.
746
00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:29.670
Apart from the dogs, we forgot to mention that bit.
747
00:30:29.990 --> 00:30:33.019
I mean, I've always grown up with dogs. They've always
748
00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:36.059
been in the house. And the reason we were able
749
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.640
to have seven dogs is because my mum lived with
750
00:30:38.700 --> 00:30:40.380
us in the annex and we kind of split the
751
00:30:40.420 --> 00:30:42.750
dogs between the two houses, but they kind of meet
752
00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:43.829
in this middle area.
753
00:30:43.849 --> 00:30:44.609
Right.
754
00:30:45.309 --> 00:30:48.410
And we bought this big van and we ripped out
755
00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:50.390
the insides and we called it the Woof Wagon.
756
00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:53.069
And all these dogs would jump in and we'd go
757
00:30:53.170 --> 00:30:56.099
on our big walks and go on dog holidays. I mean,
758
00:30:56.170 --> 00:30:58.460
we're very much like dog lovers in this house.
759
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.220
And all of our dogs are rescue dogs, you know,
760
00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:04.160
and that's important to us.
761
00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:07.180
So, yeah, it was only a matter of time, really, before.
762
00:31:06.940 --> 00:31:09.829
Writing a book that put, you know, animals front and
763
00:31:09.869 --> 00:31:12.150
centre in. And I've also done a lot of work
764
00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:15.109
with animal charities over the years and been on rescue missions.
765
00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:18.990
So the themes in the book are very much inspired
766
00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:22.210
by things that I've seen. And also just those lovely
767
00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:26.009
little subliminal messages to the younger audience to really respect animals,
768
00:31:26.329 --> 00:31:29.170
treat them with kindness. You know, it's really important because
769
00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:30.970
a lot of them, as you know, are exploited. So
770
00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:32.950
we touch on those themes. But at the same time,
771
00:31:33.190 --> 00:31:35.910
the book's very action packed. It's an adventure and it's
772
00:31:35.950 --> 00:31:36.769
an exciting read.
773
00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:38.690
It's really interesting. You said when you were growing up,
774
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.720
like you didn't have people of your kind of heritage
775
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:43.740
or that you could identify with in books. Was it
776
00:31:43.779 --> 00:31:44.579
like that? Was there like.
777
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:46.779
I was in primary school and I used to read
778
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.059
like Judy Blume and Enid Blyton and Roald Dahl. And
779
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.339
I loved all of those books and all those classics.
780
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.400
To be honest with you, I didn't really give it
781
00:31:54.460 --> 00:31:57.240
much thought. I kind of just accepted as a kid, oh,
782
00:31:57.299 --> 00:31:59.119
people that look like me aren't in books.
783
00:31:59.160 --> 00:31:59.960
Like it wasn't even.
784
00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:03.670
you know, you're young, you're not really, you're not thinking
785
00:32:03.690 --> 00:32:05.710
of it on that deep level. It was just something
786
00:32:05.730 --> 00:32:09.009
that I was aware of, but it, you know, I
787
00:32:09.049 --> 00:32:11.210
guess in a way it's a little bit sad in reflection.
788
00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:13.890
And I think it only really dawned on me once
789
00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:16.430
Azura started bringing books home that I kind.
790
00:32:16.289 --> 00:32:17.650
Of thought for a second.
791
00:32:17.670 --> 00:32:17.890
Yeah.
792
00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:22.440
Why are there no main characters in these stories that
793
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.319
look like her, reflect her?
794
00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:25.799
And that's what got me thinking.
795
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.980
And the reality is, as we know, no matter who
796
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.900
you are, where you're from, what your background is, whether
797
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.960
you're watching something, reading or listening, you want to feel
798
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.079
like you're part of something.
799
00:32:34.140 --> 00:32:36.420
You want to feel included. And I think that's really
800
00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:37.200
important for kids.
801
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:39.839
Yeah, because I think it's definitely like, you know, as
802
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.240
well as from like a race point of view, but
803
00:32:42.349 --> 00:32:45.130
even from a class point of view, the books are,
804
00:32:45.150 --> 00:32:47.710
you know, we read like Enid Blyne and the fantastic, well,
805
00:32:47.769 --> 00:32:50.910
famous five, whatever they're called. It's like Dorothy and Chipper
806
00:32:51.009 --> 00:32:53.569
off to the lead mill to see the wind. And
807
00:32:53.609 --> 00:32:56.190
I'm like, what the fuck is that? When you're just
808
00:32:56.210 --> 00:32:57.289
like a kid in South East London.
809
00:32:57.410 --> 00:33:00.150
And that's a really important point because there are subject
810
00:33:00.170 --> 00:33:03.210
matters in Lunar Wolf Animal Wizard where, you know, we're
811
00:33:03.230 --> 00:33:05.660
dealing with, like she loses her mum when she's young.
812
00:33:05.700 --> 00:33:09.119
So there's, you know, there's, subjects that are touching on
813
00:33:09.180 --> 00:33:11.740
real life you know dealing with like blended families a
814
00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:14.279
new step mom growing up obviously without a mom like
815
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:17.730
lots of real issues which I think is important because
816
00:33:17.950 --> 00:33:19.829
we shouldn't dumb down the fact that there are millions
817
00:33:19.869 --> 00:33:22.789
of kids out there going through serious issues at a
818
00:33:22.789 --> 00:33:25.569
very young age and they have to emotionally figure out
819
00:33:25.609 --> 00:33:27.690
how to handle that and deal with that so I
820
00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:29.900
don't like to shy away from it even though I'm
821
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.200
writing something that is escapism and it's action-packed and it's
822
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.319
fun I want to make sure that there's a touch
823
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:36.359
of realness to it too.
824
00:33:36.690 --> 00:33:37.069
Love it.
825
00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:37.990
Yeah, that's great.
826
00:33:38.049 --> 00:33:40.299
Alicia, can I go back to The Wolf Wagon quickly?
827
00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:42.759
Yeah, The Wolf Wagon. Oh, I love The Wolf Wagon.
828
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:44.789
I should have put The Wolf Wagon in the book.
829
00:33:44.930 --> 00:33:45.670
I didn't.
830
00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:47.410
Yes, I think you could do a whole book called
831
00:33:47.430 --> 00:33:47.789
The Wolf Wagon.
832
00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:49.329
Yeah, that's a series of books you could do as
833
00:33:49.349 --> 00:33:51.000
a father, like a spin-off series.
834
00:33:53.289 --> 00:33:55.430
So could you now, you know, you had the seven dogs.
835
00:33:55.470 --> 00:33:57.809
Could you name all dogs and breeds off the top
836
00:33:57.849 --> 00:33:59.920
of your head now? Can I get a picture of
837
00:33:59.940 --> 00:34:01.480
these dogs, please? What are we looking at?
838
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:05.339
So Teggy was a very, very little, actually in my book,
839
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.279
I've actually name checked all the dogs.
840
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.280
So, you know, when you do your thank yous.
841
00:34:11.090 --> 00:34:13.369
And that's a lot of shit you're picking up though, Alicia,
842
00:34:13.409 --> 00:34:16.130
seven dogs. I don't think they deserve a thank you.
843
00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:18.329
I get my mum to do that, Rob. Good old mum.
844
00:34:19.630 --> 00:34:21.570
So in terms of the seven that were living with us,
845
00:34:21.929 --> 00:34:24.250
so there was Teggy, who was a little rescue dog
846
00:34:24.289 --> 00:34:26.550
from the Blue Cross, and she was black, and she
847
00:34:27.389 --> 00:34:29.429
was mixed, but mainly with Jack Russell.
848
00:34:29.889 --> 00:34:32.630
Then there was Bobby, a little Bichon. He was white.
849
00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:35.110
He was from the Blue Cross as well. Then we
850
00:34:35.170 --> 00:34:37.909
have Prince and Paris, who are still with us to
851
00:34:37.929 --> 00:34:40.469
this day. We love them very much. They're naughty brothers.
852
00:34:40.550 --> 00:34:44.119
They're two golden cocker spaniels. Then we've got Daisy, who
853
00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:47.179
was my beloved rescue dog. I got her from the RSPCA.
854
00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:49.659
She was a bit like a pointer, but we never
855
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.210
quite knew what her breed was. She was mixed, but
856
00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:54.389
she looked like a pointer. And the artwork in the
857
00:34:54.409 --> 00:34:56.269
book is actually based on Daisy, because I had her
858
00:34:56.289 --> 00:34:59.599
for 13 years. And unfortunately had to say goodbye to
859
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:00.320
her last summer.
860
00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:01.179
She was my baby.
861
00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:03.460
And then we had another dog who I rescued from
862
00:35:03.500 --> 00:35:05.420
a horrible household where there was a lot of abuse
863
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.119
going on. And her name was Rosie and she was
864
00:35:08.139 --> 00:35:10.260
a little golden cocker spaniel. We had her for 12
865
00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:13.280
years as well. So yeah, a lot of lovely dogs.
866
00:35:13.829 --> 00:35:15.409
They're all characters in their own right.
867
00:35:16.050 --> 00:35:18.769
Well, you can hear you lighting up when you're talking
868
00:35:18.809 --> 00:35:20.369
about the dogs and how much you love them and
869
00:35:20.389 --> 00:35:24.429
what a big part of your life they are. How
870
00:35:24.489 --> 00:35:26.269
was it though, having, because obviously you had some of
871
00:35:26.289 --> 00:35:29.050
these dogs before you had children, were you sort of,
872
00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:32.260
was you getting out a sort of maternal energy towards them?
873
00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:37.329
The reason why I ended up with the naughty brothers,
874
00:35:37.429 --> 00:35:40.250
Prince and Paris, who we named after Michael Jackson's children,
875
00:35:40.289 --> 00:35:41.190
which is really random.
876
00:35:41.710 --> 00:35:43.789
That's because one day.
877
00:35:43.690 --> 00:35:44.110
I was like.
878
00:35:44.230 --> 00:35:48.070
You can't call a dog Blanket, though, can you? LAUGHTER
879
00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:54.449
Where's Blanket's Blanket? This is Blanket's little brother, Chewtoy.
880
00:35:55.190 --> 00:35:59.389
Where's Blanket's Blanket? LAUGHTER Tell you what.
881
00:35:59.409 --> 00:36:00.949
I'm going to go on Britain's Got Talent. I reckon
882
00:36:00.989 --> 00:36:03.309
you'll buzz me through. I'll fucking smash it.
883
00:36:03.369 --> 00:36:06.239
You've got the gold buzzer written all over you, mate.
884
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.400
So basically, one day, I think I said to my partner,
885
00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:12.239
I think I really would love to have a baby.
886
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.000
And he was a bit on the fence. And then
887
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.559
I just thought, well, you know what? If we're not
888
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:18.440
going to.
889
00:36:18.260 --> 00:36:21.119
Have children now, I'm going to go and get some
890
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.260
young dogs to look after so I can give them
891
00:36:23.300 --> 00:36:24.519
all that motherly love.
892
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.800
And that's basically what I did.
893
00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:27.000
Yeah.
894
00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:28.880
That's kind of a stopgap.
895
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:30.550
Have you ever had a puppy?
896
00:36:30.969 --> 00:36:32.750
Well, I've got a dog. I've got a whippet.
897
00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:34.550
Rob, I'll be honest with you. He's got a very
898
00:36:34.610 --> 00:36:36.320
different relationship to his dog to you.
899
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:37.039
Okay.
900
00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:38.760
Because I was going to say, having a puppy is
901
00:36:38.820 --> 00:36:40.679
like having a newborn baby because you have to take
902
00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:42.519
them outside every 15 minutes.
903
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.090
They keep you awake all night and they are hard work.
904
00:36:45.630 --> 00:36:46.250
Yes, they are.
905
00:36:46.289 --> 00:36:49.530
And I actually find the dogs now, the dog I've got,
906
00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:52.570
is more hassle than my, like, seven-year-old and five-year-old because
907
00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:57.070
they basically stay as toddlers for their whole life, don't they? Exactly.
908
00:36:57.349 --> 00:36:59.469
That's the issue. No, I like having the dog. I
909
00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:02.010
love it in the family. So it's said through gritted teeth. No,
910
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.820
I don't love dogs the way you love dogs, Alicia. However,
911
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:05.659
Lou really wanted a dog.
912
00:37:06.059 --> 00:37:06.679
Who's got a whippet?
913
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:07.360
I've got a whippet.
914
00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:07.860
Rob's got a whippet.
915
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:09.019
They're so cute.
916
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.840
They are. It's a lovely dog. Now, hear me out
917
00:37:11.860 --> 00:37:13.500
and see if you can get this, but I feel
918
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.119
like there's a lot needed from me energy-wise from my
919
00:37:16.179 --> 00:37:18.550
wife and children and then going out and doing my job.
920
00:37:18.750 --> 00:37:21.230
I don't need something else on my case.
921
00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:23.659
On my case.
922
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.159
He always wants something. He eats everything.
923
00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:27.500
No, I get it. I get it.
924
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:31.280
He ate a panettone the other day, Alicia. Are you joking?
925
00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:33.840
On my life, full panettone, chocolate one, not raisin, don't panic.
926
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.280
That says so much about your life now, Rob, these days.
927
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.039
You've got a weapon. I get eating a panettone. You've changed, mate.
928
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.610
No, I haven't because I get delivered the panettone, but
929
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:44.070
I don't eat fucking panettone. That's why it's sat on
930
00:37:44.090 --> 00:37:45.670
the side. I don't know if he enjoyed it. He
931
00:37:45.730 --> 00:37:49.750
absolutely smashed through it. They're proper scavengers, Whippets. They'll eat anything,
932
00:37:49.849 --> 00:37:51.170
but they get fat real quick.
933
00:37:51.309 --> 00:37:52.469
And is he super quick?
934
00:37:53.050 --> 00:37:55.949
Really quick, very agile. I love walking him and watching
935
00:37:55.969 --> 00:37:57.829
him run. I've not walked him for ages, to be honest, actually.
936
00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.090
But yeah, I love the idea of walking him.
937
00:38:00.130 --> 00:38:00.849
Who's walking him?
938
00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:02.309
I've got a dog walker this week.
939
00:38:02.630 --> 00:38:03.750
Oh, do you?
940
00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:06.210
Because I can't, I'm working and I've got the kids
941
00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:09.179
because Lou's away. I haven't got the time to properly
942
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.320
walk him, so I'd rather he got a proper walk.
943
00:38:12.420 --> 00:38:14.239
We do walk him when we're not both, but when
944
00:38:14.260 --> 00:38:16.860
it's too much in a week, to give a dog
945
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:17.619
a proper walk.
946
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:18.539
I know, I know.
947
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.219
So who's your, what is your mum walking the dogs?
948
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:21.559
My mum is amazing.
949
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.369
Honestly, if it, I would not have been able to
950
00:38:23.389 --> 00:38:25.210
have had these dogs without her support.
951
00:38:25.329 --> 00:38:28.190
And thankfully she's as obsessed with animals.
952
00:38:27.909 --> 00:38:29.849
As I am. Yeah, that helps then.
953
00:38:29.889 --> 00:38:30.610
Quite nicely.
954
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.539
My mum hates all animals.
955
00:38:32.940 --> 00:38:33.219
No.
956
00:38:33.949 --> 00:38:35.530
My mates are all animals.
957
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:40.639
Honestly, she's not into it at all. Yeah, it's quite weird, actually.
958
00:38:40.659 --> 00:38:41.539
Really?
959
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.199
Yeah, she's not into animals. Yeah, it's a huge statement,
960
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:44.539
isn't it?
961
00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:46.699
How can you say you're not into animals? It's like
962
00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:51.050
saying I'm not into trees or I'm not into the sky.
963
00:38:51.070 --> 00:38:52.869
She's not a big tree fan either, to be honest.
964
00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:53.630
We're part of our.
965
00:38:53.570 --> 00:38:55.750
Ecosystem and our world and our planet.
966
00:38:55.849 --> 00:38:58.949
How can you hate them? She's AstroTurf the Garden. What's
967
00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:00.050
your mum's name?
968
00:39:00.929 --> 00:39:01.610
My mum's? Susan.
969
00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:02.070
Susan.
970
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:03.900
Susan, come on, Susan.
971
00:39:04.059 --> 00:39:06.860
I know, she's very loving with humans, though. She loves humans.
972
00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:09.639
She loves humans, but humans can be arseholes.
973
00:39:09.659 --> 00:39:13.260
Well, do you know what? So can some dogs sometimes,
974
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:14.820
do you know what I mean? In the panatonic.
975
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.760
Maybe because they've got bad owners, Rob.
976
00:39:16.980 --> 00:39:19.670
Yes, okay. Yeah, but then some humans have bad parents.
977
00:39:20.050 --> 00:39:23.030
It all goes back that way. My mum's a bit
978
00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:25.349
unsteady on her feet, got a bad knee, bad eyes.
979
00:39:25.429 --> 00:39:27.909
I don't think she likes anything quick. I don't think
980
00:39:27.929 --> 00:39:29.530
she'd get on with Lewis Hamilton, if I'm honest with you.
981
00:39:29.829 --> 00:39:29.900
No.
982
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.489
Daughters absolutely like lightning, Rob.
983
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.570
I know, but they are her grandchildren. Anyway, let's move
984
00:39:36.590 --> 00:39:39.090
on from my mum's cold heart and get back into.
985
00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:43.880
Alicia, can I ask you a question? You're writing books
986
00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:47.179
and you've got a nine-year-old now. My daughter's seven. I'm
987
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.750
already struggling with the maths. How are you at the
988
00:39:49.809 --> 00:39:50.869
homework side of things?
989
00:39:51.250 --> 00:39:53.670
I pass the maths homework over to her dad.
990
00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:54.389
Nice.
991
00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:57.750
All his family are accountants and they, you know, they're great.
992
00:39:57.789 --> 00:40:00.110
I mean, he's not an accountant, but he's really good
993
00:40:00.130 --> 00:40:03.719
at math. Annoyingly good at math. So I let, he
994
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.119
takes care of that. I'm more the English homework.
995
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:06.619
Sure.
996
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:06.739
Yeah.
997
00:40:07.059 --> 00:40:09.480
Creative best-selling author best-selling author.
998
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.550
But we've got a nice balance in the house but
999
00:40:12.610 --> 00:40:14.989
she's really independent actually quite a bit like me and
1000
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:17.230
she just gets on with it and she's she does
1001
00:40:17.269 --> 00:40:20.000
really well and very rarely asks us for any help
1002
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.380
which is very good That's good.
1003
00:40:22.389 --> 00:40:23.860
So she cracks on with it. Fair enough.
1004
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.599
Yeah, it's great.
1005
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.260
And is that what you were like? Can you see
1006
00:40:27.300 --> 00:40:31.019
yourself as a child? Because obviously you're quite a driven person.
1007
00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:32.840
Can you see where you like that as a child?
1008
00:40:32.889 --> 00:40:33.889
And can you see that in her?
1009
00:40:34.110 --> 00:40:36.170
Yeah, definitely. And I see it in my three year
1010
00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:38.389
old as well. It's down to the smallest things.
1011
00:40:38.429 --> 00:40:40.530
Like if you try to help her put her shoes
1012
00:40:40.610 --> 00:40:42.210
on or a coat, everything's no, no, no.
1013
00:40:42.269 --> 00:40:42.949
I want to do this.
1014
00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:45.000
And my mum said I was very much the same.
1015
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.980
um just kind of that independence and yeah and i
1016
00:40:49.019 --> 00:40:51.119
like that actually because it makes you confident as a
1017
00:40:51.139 --> 00:40:54.000
parent that you know they're going to be self-sufficient and
1018
00:40:54.019 --> 00:40:55.360
they're you know going to be able to look after
1019
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.510
themselves and not need to be babied up until they're
1020
00:40:58.530 --> 00:41:02.469
teenagers you know um it's very important to me that
1021
00:41:02.510 --> 00:41:04.989
they you know i'm trying to get my you know
1022
00:41:05.010 --> 00:41:06.489
my nine-year-old cooking dinner.
1023
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:10.199
Like come on let's.
1024
00:41:09.980 --> 00:41:12.019
Get in the kitchen let's learn how to cook so
1025
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.849
once a week you can take over i'm Oh, wow.
1026
00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:15.570
And what's she like?
1027
00:41:15.590 --> 00:41:16.429
I'm only joking.
1028
00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:18.570
I do want her to learn how to cook and
1029
00:41:18.610 --> 00:41:22.530
be self-sufficient. So that stuff's important because they're very privileged.
1030
00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:25.110
They have a great life, but we don't let them,
1031
00:41:25.530 --> 00:41:27.380
you know, sit around thinking that they're just going to
1032
00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:30.280
be waited on. We're like we everyone has to get involved.
1033
00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:31.530
And that's quite important for us.
1034
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:32.039
Yeah.
1035
00:41:32.099 --> 00:41:35.099
Because they are having a very different lifestyle to you
1036
00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:38.280
growing up and your childhood and things like that. Do
1037
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.320
you have to bite your tongue to go, well, when
1038
00:41:40.380 --> 00:41:42.079
I was a kid and stuff like that? Or are
1039
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.079
you a bit more chill with it? Because it's hard
1040
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:44.909
not to sometimes.
1041
00:41:44.929 --> 00:41:47.230
We talk to them about this all the time, you know.
1042
00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:51.750
For example, the other day she was doing her homework
1043
00:41:51.789 --> 00:41:54.489
and her father, he was born in the UK, but
1044
00:41:54.530 --> 00:41:56.949
he went back to Nigeria and he went to school
1045
00:41:56.969 --> 00:41:58.929
in Nigeria. And he said that some days they'd come
1046
00:41:58.969 --> 00:41:59.849
home and they wouldn't have.
1047
00:41:59.809 --> 00:42:00.590
Electricity, right?
1048
00:42:00.690 --> 00:42:00.929
Right.
1049
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:03.860
For hours on end, maybe it would last a few
1050
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:05.780
days and they'd have to sit and do their homework
1051
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:06.659
in candlelight.
1052
00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:09.019
And she's sitting there doing her homework.
1053
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:11.360
And he, so we were talking about this and we
1054
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.579
turned off all the lights and he said, and he
1055
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.260
put the candle near, he said, try.
1056
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:16.760
Doing your homework like this. He said, cause this is
1057
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.039
what daddy used to have to do. She lasted a minute.
1058
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.139
And it's just, we just have that, but we do
1059
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.739
it in a fun way, but we just try to
1060
00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:27.469
remind her and show her, you know, don't take anything
1061
00:42:27.530 --> 00:42:29.869
for granted because You know, the fact that you have
1062
00:42:30.150 --> 00:42:33.690
running water, food in your tummy, beautiful home, parents that
1063
00:42:33.710 --> 00:42:37.329
love you. You know, you're very lucky and you deserve this,
1064
00:42:37.389 --> 00:42:39.449
but we want you to be grateful. So we constantly
1065
00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:43.289
have that conversation and remind her, you know, show her
1066
00:42:43.329 --> 00:42:45.849
what the real world is like, because that's important. Because
1067
00:42:45.889 --> 00:42:49.090
I want my children to grow up mindful and aware
1068
00:42:49.130 --> 00:42:50.760
of the world and how privileged they are.
1069
00:42:51.050 --> 00:42:53.280
And what's it like for her to have, you know,
1070
00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:56.039
one of the most famous people in the country as
1071
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.099
her mum? Does that come up or is she bored
1072
00:42:58.119 --> 00:42:59.960
of it now? The kids at school don't really care?
1073
00:43:00.820 --> 00:43:02.820
Because it is a big show as well. It's a
1074
00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:04.539
show that kids watch.
1075
00:43:04.579 --> 00:43:07.219
Someone actually asked her that in front of me the
1076
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.039
other day. She went, it's kind of cool. She's quite
1077
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.289
chill about it. And honestly, the only thing she cares.
1078
00:43:14.010 --> 00:43:16.469
About when I'm filming a show like Britain's Got Talent
1079
00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:19.510
is kids. Is Amanda's kids going to be there? Is
1080
00:43:19.530 --> 00:43:20.650
Simon's son going to be there?
1081
00:43:20.670 --> 00:43:24.719
She's more interested in organising the play date and what
1082
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.179
video games they can all play or what they can,
1083
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:28.480
you know, when they're hanging out.
1084
00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:30.980
Do you take them to record dates then?
1085
00:43:31.340 --> 00:43:32.380
Yes, yes.
1086
00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:34.889
So like the live shows or when you're out in
1087
00:43:34.909 --> 00:43:35.170
the country?
1088
00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:36.889
We try and coordinate it so that all the kids
1089
00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.369
come on the same day so they can all hang out.
1090
00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:42.949
usually once in, you know, once, we do like six
1091
00:43:42.989 --> 00:43:44.730
live shows. So they'll maybe come to the final or
1092
00:43:44.789 --> 00:43:48.170
something like that. And then maybe an audition day as well,
1093
00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:49.070
they'll come and hang out.
1094
00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:50.809
And do they have a room that like, it's sort
1095
00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:52.190
of like the playroom for all the kids?
1096
00:43:52.469 --> 00:43:54.170
No, but we did used to say to the producers,
1097
00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:56.670
can we, when they were really little, we used to say, can.
1098
00:43:56.550 --> 00:43:57.210
We get a crash?
1099
00:43:57.269 --> 00:44:00.309
But obviously they're older now, they could sit and watch
1100
00:44:00.349 --> 00:44:03.349
the show. And there was actually one day that we
1101
00:44:03.409 --> 00:44:04.780
all brought our dogs in as well.
1102
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:05.469
It was mental.
1103
00:44:06.570 --> 00:44:07.900
I've seen a photo of that.
1104
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:09.699
The wolf wagon turned up.
1105
00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:16.000
I only brought one of the seven in because every
1106
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.199
one of it, you know, Simon's got squiggly and diddly.
1107
00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:21.320
You know, David's got two dogs.
1108
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.110
Amanda's got her dog. Ant and Dec have got dogs. And,
1109
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.079
you know, it was chaos. But in the best way possible,
1110
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:28.599
you know.
1111
00:44:28.780 --> 00:44:30.599
I feel like they could give the kids a little
1112
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.599
dressing room to all hang out in. Because have you
1113
00:44:32.659 --> 00:44:34.300
ever worked with Geri Halliwell, Alicia?
1114
00:44:34.460 --> 00:44:35.280
I haven't, no.
1115
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.039
So I worked with her on a show. And she
1116
00:44:38.139 --> 00:44:40.239
had her son there who was about 18 months. And
1117
00:44:40.260 --> 00:44:42.710
he had his own dressing room. Did he? It was
1118
00:44:42.769 --> 00:44:43.690
slightly bigger than mine.
1119
00:44:43.710 --> 00:44:46.650
I need to work that into my contract.
1120
00:44:46.670 --> 00:44:47.710
I know. That's a great idea.
1121
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.989
Has your daughter ever disagreed with a decision you've made
1122
00:44:53.030 --> 00:44:54.690
on Britain's Got Talent? Always.
1123
00:44:55.170 --> 00:44:55.730
Always.
1124
00:44:56.269 --> 00:45:00.630
Yes, I constantly get told off for pressing the buzzer.
1125
00:45:00.650 --> 00:45:03.489
She has a very strong opinion on every single thing
1126
00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:07.260
I say and do. And usually I get criticised. And
1127
00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.119
I'm thinking, is this normal?
1128
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.739
Like, for a nine-year-old to be so critical?
1129
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.000
Why is your hair like that? I'm not sure about
1130
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.079
that outfit. Why did you press your buzzer for that person?
1131
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.519
That was a bit mean, Mummy. And I come home
1132
00:45:20.579 --> 00:45:21.159
to a judge.
1133
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:22.619
So, you know.
1134
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:26.030
LAUGHTER I find it quite funny and I do ask
1135
00:45:26.070 --> 00:45:29.090
her opinion on a lot of things because she's quite sassy.
1136
00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:30.030
She's very funny.
1137
00:45:30.469 --> 00:45:33.639
She's actually put a lot of input into the recent
1138
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.900
book as well. Like I let her choose a couple
1139
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.480
of the character names in the book and, you know,
1140
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.440
she'll sit and do sketches for, you know, outfits that
1141
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.179
she thinks will suit characters. So I tried to let her...
1142
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.110
in on my little world somehow. Cause she's, you know,
1143
00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:50.070
she's got very strict. They have very strong opinions, even
1144
00:45:50.110 --> 00:45:50.489
at nine.
1145
00:45:50.510 --> 00:45:53.050
Do you know what though? I'd say it's really reassuring
1146
00:45:53.170 --> 00:45:55.730
because like, if she thinks, oh, you don't know, I
1147
00:45:55.750 --> 00:45:57.250
don't like your outfit, mom, or what you're doing that
1148
00:45:57.309 --> 00:45:59.369
for and stuff like that, because you and your husband,
1149
00:45:59.389 --> 00:46:01.250
there's a, I don't know. I've had a photo of
1150
00:46:01.309 --> 00:46:04.489
you at the LGBT Awards, I think. You two look
1151
00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:09.630
so cool. You're wearing this pink jacket. Your husband's got
1152
00:46:09.710 --> 00:46:11.610
sunglasses on and a black suit. You look like the
1153
00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:14.760
coolest people I've ever seen. So if your children think
1154
00:46:14.940 --> 00:46:17.320
you look silly or you're wearing the wrong stuff, then
1155
00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:18.659
that gives us hope for us.
1156
00:46:18.659 --> 00:46:19.780
Does that make you feel better, Rob?
1157
00:46:19.820 --> 00:46:23.260
Yeah, because I look at you, you look unbelievable. So basically,
1158
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.380
the bottom line is, your kids, our kids, everyone's kids know,
1159
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:30.969
fuck all. Because you two look unbelievable. She's not happy
1160
00:46:31.010 --> 00:46:33.210
with that. Jesus Christ.
1161
00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:35.289
We say to her all the time, listen, girl, you've
1162
00:46:35.309 --> 00:46:36.690
got some cool parents, right?
1163
00:46:36.949 --> 00:46:38.650
I'm actually quite cool. But then if you say that,
1164
00:46:38.690 --> 00:46:39.949
I'm actually quite cool, you know.
1165
00:46:40.139 --> 00:46:41.840
And you don't sound cool, do you?
1166
00:46:41.909 --> 00:46:42.900
Exactly.
1167
00:46:43.019 --> 00:46:45.119
And you go, are we?
1168
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.000
Yeah. But you're a bit more glamorous on telly. I've
1169
00:46:49.019 --> 00:46:50.860
been on telly getting a colonic, do you know what
1170
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.320
I mean, in my pants and stuff like that.
1171
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.840
That's not the only time when you didn't look cool
1172
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.659
on TV. Like, you've never looked cool on TV.
1173
00:46:58.059 --> 00:46:59.139
You have not done that.
1174
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:00.500
I've had a colonic on telly.
1175
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:01.489
Are you joking?
1176
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.190
No, yeah, real life with Romesh.
1177
00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:04.570
How can I watch that?
1178
00:47:04.590 --> 00:47:08.030
On Sky, on demand, Rob and Romesh versus basketball, weirdly.
1179
00:47:08.329 --> 00:47:09.769
And I had a clear out on that.
1180
00:47:10.110 --> 00:47:11.550
I'm fascinated with them.
1181
00:47:11.969 --> 00:47:12.769
Have you never had one?
1182
00:47:12.829 --> 00:47:13.280
Have you had one?
1183
00:47:13.300 --> 00:47:15.139
I have had one. They're great, aren't they?
1184
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.179
Oh, I'm not sure, Ali. Do you know, my issue was...
1185
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.260
What's it meant to achieve?
1186
00:47:20.230 --> 00:47:23.849
You're supposed to draw out all the toxins and, you know,
1187
00:47:23.869 --> 00:47:25.550
it depends on what your diet's like.
1188
00:47:25.590 --> 00:47:28.360
Things get stuck, don't they? And they just help stick.
1189
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.559
I think we should move on, really.
1190
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.260
No, no, I like this. No, basically, Romesh, so basically
1191
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.219
they put like a tube up your bum, Josh.
1192
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.280
Yeah, I'm aware of that bit. I know the headline.
1193
00:47:41.420 --> 00:47:42.539
I'm looking more for the.
1194
00:47:43.099 --> 00:47:44.699
I assume that would be the worst bit, but I
1195
00:47:44.699 --> 00:47:45.449
don't know if you found this.
1196
00:47:45.550 --> 00:47:46.389
It was the pressure.
1197
00:47:47.170 --> 00:47:48.869
They start filling you up with water.
1198
00:47:48.909 --> 00:47:49.210
Yes, yes.
1199
00:47:49.710 --> 00:47:52.510
And then that sort of expands. Yeah, because it gets
1200
00:47:52.590 --> 00:47:56.630
the water everywhere inside you so that then it all dislodges. Yes, Alicia.
1201
00:47:56.650 --> 00:47:59.579
I think that a colonic is the closest a man
1202
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:05.119
will get to experiencing what a contraction kind of feels like.
1203
00:48:05.179 --> 00:48:07.639
Oh, really? I'm glad you brought it back to the
1204
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.699
subject as well, so it means we can talk about
1205
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:10.230
it more.
1206
00:48:10.250 --> 00:48:10.320
Yes.
1207
00:48:10.510 --> 00:48:12.650
I tell you why, because you know that bit when
1208
00:48:12.730 --> 00:48:15.929
your stomach completely fills up and then it's like a
1209
00:48:15.969 --> 00:48:18.070
really achy feeling, you know, like when you've got a
1210
00:48:18.090 --> 00:48:18.530
bad tummy.
1211
00:48:18.550 --> 00:48:19.909
Yes, yes, yep.
1212
00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:22.429
That's a fraction of what a contraction feels like.
1213
00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:25.550
Yeah, it's because I think you probably get the uncomfortableness
1214
00:48:25.570 --> 00:48:27.969
with it without the sort of pain and pressure of
1215
00:48:28.179 --> 00:48:28.860
the baby.
1216
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.679
You have to really, really breathe through it, don't you?
1217
00:48:32.300 --> 00:48:34.420
Yeah, well, I was trying to, but I was laughing
1218
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.199
at a butter mushroom coming out whole from Romesh.
1219
00:48:37.699 --> 00:48:41.820
LAUGHTER I sat and watched my friend have it done once,
1220
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:43.099
the first time I saw her have it done.
1221
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:43.889
It's fascinating, isn't it?
1222
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.860
And when you see a bit of tomato or something
1223
00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:49.130
come out, you need to chew your food, girl.
1224
00:48:49.150 --> 00:48:50.789
Yeah, that fucking was sun-dried, wasn't it?
1225
00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:51.550
Jesus.
1226
00:48:52.110 --> 00:48:54.469
When you see sat and had, were you having yours
1227
00:48:54.510 --> 00:48:55.829
done that day or did you just go along as
1228
00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:56.570
a spectator?
1229
00:48:56.769 --> 00:48:59.059
I was just with her and she allowed me to
1230
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.019
sit in the room with her because I'm strange like that.
1231
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:01.400
I love it.
1232
00:49:01.420 --> 00:49:01.980
Fascinating.
1233
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:03.039
Fascinating.
1234
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.659
And she let me watch it.
1235
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.260
And I thought it was very interesting.
1236
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.940
Yes, it's very uncomfortable, but I think it does have
1237
00:49:08.980 --> 00:49:11.570
a good old clear out. But it takes a few,
1238
00:49:11.730 --> 00:49:13.670
I found it, it took a few days for full
1239
00:49:13.710 --> 00:49:16.710
recovery down there personally. I can still feel a breeze
1240
00:49:16.730 --> 00:49:18.820
getting out of the shower. I think that was the
1241
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:19.340
wrong tube.
1242
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:19.940
Don't.
1243
00:49:23.510 --> 00:49:25.800
Anyway, how were your births? Let's get back to that, Sin,
1244
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.440
as you brought up, giving birth to a child.
1245
00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:33.340
First one was lovely. Yeah.
1246
00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:36.469
I didn't listen to any stories from anybody else. I
1247
00:49:36.469 --> 00:49:39.329
wasn't interested in any horror stories. I just tried to
1248
00:49:39.369 --> 00:49:42.449
stay in a really positive place. I did the hypnobirthing thing.
1249
00:49:43.630 --> 00:49:46.880
Got myself really calm. You know, it wasn't perfect.
1250
00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:50.780
There were moments where I was very challenged. But overall,
1251
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:52.409
my first birth was.
1252
00:49:52.329 --> 00:49:54.650
A natural birth. And yeah.
1253
00:49:54.789 --> 00:49:55.230
No drugs?
1254
00:49:56.110 --> 00:50:00.760
I did have an epidural at the last minute. Yeah,
1255
00:50:00.820 --> 00:50:05.340
it was very painful, but the overall feeling when I
1256
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.940
look back at the first birth was a really positive one.
1257
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.110
Okay, that's good. It's good to hear because sometimes it
1258
00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:13.769
is all drama stories where it can just be quite
1259
00:50:14.190 --> 00:50:16.289
sort of textbook in a way, can't it? So it's
1260
00:50:16.309 --> 00:50:18.269
good to hear that side of it. But how about
1261
00:50:18.289 --> 00:50:18.750
your second?
1262
00:50:19.289 --> 00:50:21.349
Second one, because I was a bit, I was more
1263
00:50:21.369 --> 00:50:24.309
stressed looking after obviously a young child. I was working,
1264
00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:26.409
as I said before, right up until the point where
1265
00:50:26.469 --> 00:50:31.010
my waters broke and then my waters broke, but baby
1266
00:50:31.050 --> 00:50:34.340
wasn't ready to come out. And it was a very,
1267
00:50:34.389 --> 00:50:37.519
very long process in them trying to induce me and
1268
00:50:38.059 --> 00:50:40.980
this way. And by that point, when you've not slept
1269
00:50:41.019 --> 00:50:43.719
for 24 hours and you're exhausted and you've been pumped
1270
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.860
with so much stuff to try and get things moving
1271
00:50:45.900 --> 00:50:48.320
and she didn't want to play ball, In the end,
1272
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.280
I had to have a C-section, but it wasn't planned.
1273
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.199
I didn't want it.
1274
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.840
And I found all of that very uncomfortable. Like I've
1275
00:50:56.860 --> 00:50:59.719
spoken to women that have chosen to do that and
1276
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:01.519
they've had no issues with it. But for me, I
1277
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:03.159
don't know if it was a psychological thing because I
1278
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.860
really wanted a natural birth, but I did not like it.
1279
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.690
And that feeling when your body goes numb, I hated it.
1280
00:51:09.699 --> 00:51:12.929
And it felt strange to me. And there was a moment,
1281
00:51:13.340 --> 00:51:16.449
my funniest moment, They said to me, it won't hurt.
1282
00:51:16.489 --> 00:51:19.699
You won't feel a thing. So they numbed my body.
1283
00:51:19.739 --> 00:51:23.010
And then when they started to like move my stomach
1284
00:51:23.070 --> 00:51:25.710
around and open it up or whatever, I started.
1285
00:51:25.510 --> 00:51:27.789
Shouting at them. I was like, you said it wasn't
1286
00:51:27.809 --> 00:51:36.420
going to hurt. So I'm shouting at them. I'm shouting
1287
00:51:36.460 --> 00:51:36.760
at them.
1288
00:51:37.340 --> 00:51:39.239
And my poor partner, he's like, it was like a
1289
00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:41.940
horror movie was happening over the curtain and he watched
1290
00:51:41.980 --> 00:51:44.219
the whole thing. So in the end they gave me
1291
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.010
gas and air because I was like telling them off.
1292
00:51:47.389 --> 00:51:48.250
Yeah.
1293
00:51:48.289 --> 00:51:49.239
Just to shut you up.
1294
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:51.860
Had the gas and air, he said, then I was
1295
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:56.739
cracking up laughing. He said, from shouting at them to
1296
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.599
literally laughing my head off.
1297
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.400
And he's looking over the curtain. He can see all
1298
00:52:01.420 --> 00:52:02.000
this blood.
1299
00:52:02.059 --> 00:52:03.409
And it was like, he said, it was like something
1300
00:52:03.429 --> 00:52:05.469
from a horror movie and I'm laughing my head off.
1301
00:52:06.110 --> 00:52:08.170
And that's his memory of it.
1302
00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:10.289
So it was a bit more dramatic. And then obviously
1303
00:52:10.349 --> 00:52:12.750
baby came. She was amazing.
1304
00:52:12.789 --> 00:52:14.409
We were in floods of tears. It was brilliant.
1305
00:52:14.429 --> 00:52:17.309
But then even afterwards, you know, I was very sick.
1306
00:52:17.369 --> 00:52:19.849
I kept being sick. I felt horrific for days.
1307
00:52:19.869 --> 00:52:23.730
It's a long recovery because my wife had an emergency C-section.
1308
00:52:24.409 --> 00:52:29.219
And it's just a long, you're recovering from an operation.
1309
00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:31.539
Exactly. Exactly.
1310
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.420
And all I'm worried about is can I get on
1311
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.559
an aeroplane and go and do America's Got Talent?
1312
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.500
Oh, God. Yeah, so how soon after was you doing that?
1313
00:52:40.219 --> 00:52:41.260
Five weeks after.
1314
00:52:41.300 --> 00:52:42.260
Five? Fuck.
1315
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.179
So was it meant to be a week after then?
1316
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.019
Yes. Yes.
1317
00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:46.500
Oh, wow.
1318
00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:48.239
I don't know what I was thinking, to be honest.
1319
00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:50.489
And then part of me thought maybe my little baby
1320
00:52:51.090 --> 00:52:53.150
knew I needed more recovery time and that's why she
1321
00:52:53.190 --> 00:52:53.920
came early for it.
1322
00:52:53.969 --> 00:52:55.909
Or you was thinking the extra 15% get me on
1323
00:52:55.929 --> 00:52:56.360
that plane.
1324
00:52:56.380 --> 00:52:56.440
No.
1325
00:52:57.429 --> 00:53:03.750
Mama's earning in America. Yeah, it was a.
1326
00:53:03.730 --> 00:53:06.260
Whirlwind, but you know what? Interestingly, they pump you with
1327
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:08.539
so many drugs, don't they? When you have a C-section
1328
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.760
and then they're like, you know, you can't do this.
1329
00:53:10.780 --> 00:53:12.780
You can't drive. You can't walk, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1330
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:14.760
I stayed in hospital for a few days.
1331
00:53:14.860 --> 00:53:18.159
I came home. I stopped taking all the drugs that
1332
00:53:18.179 --> 00:53:20.320
they gave me. And yeah, it was very painful getting
1333
00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:23.659
up in the morning, but I was hoovering like the,
1334
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.420
the day after I came out of hospital, I was up.
1335
00:53:26.429 --> 00:53:27.670
And I was walking.
1336
00:53:27.909 --> 00:53:30.130
Yeah. I was walking around the garden with the buggy.
1337
00:53:30.190 --> 00:53:30.949
I felt fine.
1338
00:53:30.989 --> 00:53:34.369
I think sometimes the drugs kind of suppress you and
1339
00:53:34.670 --> 00:53:37.130
dumb down what your body is actually capable of doing
1340
00:53:37.150 --> 00:53:37.670
for itself.
1341
00:53:38.289 --> 00:53:38.630
So yeah.
1342
00:53:39.289 --> 00:53:39.670
It was great.
1343
00:53:39.690 --> 00:53:42.449
And then I spent four weeks in, you know, at home,
1344
00:53:42.530 --> 00:53:45.309
strolling around the garden, going out for lovely walks, eating
1345
00:53:45.349 --> 00:53:47.570
good food, relaxing. So by the time we got on
1346
00:53:47.610 --> 00:53:49.960
that aeroplane, I was ready to rock and roll.
1347
00:53:50.449 --> 00:53:52.690
You're going to be one of those people that's like,
1348
00:53:52.710 --> 00:53:55.909
when they're like 97, that you're like great-grandchildren are going
1349
00:53:55.929 --> 00:53:57.349
to go around and you've ordered a shed and you're
1350
00:53:57.369 --> 00:53:59.289
trying to put it up. And you're like, Nan!
1351
00:53:59.909 --> 00:54:00.030
What?
1352
00:54:00.349 --> 00:54:01.329
Nan, what are you doing?
1353
00:54:01.769 --> 00:54:02.829
My mum is like that.
1354
00:54:02.849 --> 00:54:03.349
Really?
1355
00:54:03.429 --> 00:54:05.250
Okay. She's been like that since we were kids and
1356
00:54:05.269 --> 00:54:06.800
I think I do get a bit of that from her. Like,
1357
00:54:06.820 --> 00:54:08.760
you'd come home and my mum had built a patio.
1358
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:12.719
LAUGHTER She is still like that to this day. And
1359
00:54:12.739 --> 00:54:14.860
I always say to my mum, mum, you know, we
1360
00:54:14.900 --> 00:54:17.659
can pay someone to do that. And she's like, why
1361
00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:20.260
pay someone when I can do it myself? So she's
1362
00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:22.480
always been like that. Very creative, gets on with it.
1363
00:54:22.710 --> 00:54:24.989
But you're right. I will probably be building a shed
1364
00:54:25.130 --> 00:54:26.679
or something when I'm 90.
1365
00:54:26.670 --> 00:54:29.369
I hope I'm still going out for runs and going
1366
00:54:29.409 --> 00:54:31.190
to the gym when I'm 90.
1367
00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:32.389
That's my... Oh, I don't.
1368
00:54:32.409 --> 00:54:34.929
I want to fucking just sack it off at about 83.
1369
00:54:34.929 --> 00:54:36.179
Oh, mate, I'm done at 60.
1370
00:54:36.179 --> 00:54:38.820
My Jamaican nan used to go to the gym. I
1371
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:40.539
used to get people coming up to me saying, your
1372
00:54:40.579 --> 00:54:42.380
nan's a legend. I saw her in the gym and
1373
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.659
she was like.
1374
00:54:44.750 --> 00:54:48.150
Oh, my word. So you're never going to stop. This
1375
00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:49.889
is it. Just keep going.
1376
00:54:50.110 --> 00:54:52.610
Well, no, I think I believe that the older I get,
1377
00:54:52.650 --> 00:54:55.510
the more I think the balance is important. It's important
1378
00:54:55.550 --> 00:54:58.420
to work hard, but you've got to play hard and relax.
1379
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.179
And the rest is just as important as stuff.
1380
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:03.460
So I'm learning that more and more.
1381
00:55:03.619 --> 00:55:05.719
This is terrible news for anyone that's eyeing up a
1382
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.639
judge job on Somewhere's Got Talent, because you're not letting in... Well,
1383
00:55:10.659 --> 00:55:12.260
because you're going to be there 200. Nothing.
1384
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.159
Yeah.
1385
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.889
They say luck don't crack, so fingers crossed.
1386
00:55:17.909 --> 00:55:20.210
You need to take your foot off the pedal, get lazy,
1387
00:55:20.269 --> 00:55:23.070
so someone else can sneak in. Come on, Alicia.
1388
00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:26.750
Oh, don't. I'm going to try and create opportunities for
1389
00:55:26.809 --> 00:55:28.349
other people, Rob. That's the plan.
1390
00:55:28.389 --> 00:55:28.889
There we go.
1391
00:55:28.909 --> 00:55:30.650
Yes, but just not on the show you're on.
1392
00:55:31.170 --> 00:55:32.889
Our approach....
1393
00:55:35.139 --> 00:55:36.079
As long as they don't want to be one of
1394
00:55:36.139 --> 00:55:40.250
four judges. Create loads of ops. Alicia, thank you so much.
1395
00:55:40.369 --> 00:55:42.750
We've got our final two questions, if that's all right.
1396
00:55:43.010 --> 00:55:43.210
Yes.
1397
00:55:44.389 --> 00:55:46.409
So this basically we ask this to all our guests
1398
00:55:46.610 --> 00:55:48.860
and it's what's the one thing so there's a positive
1399
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.139
and negative spin on it it's two questions what's the
1400
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.579
one thing that really annoys you about your partner in
1401
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.760
the way they parent and something that drives you a
1402
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.570
bit mad and then what's the one thing that they
1403
00:55:57.610 --> 00:55:59.909
do as a dad that you're just like oh my
1404
00:55:59.929 --> 00:56:03.469
god they're so amazing that i'm so thankful.
1405
00:56:03.070 --> 00:56:05.670
That we're obviously we're obviously more interested in the first
1406
00:56:05.789 --> 00:56:07.429
one but get through the second one and then we
1407
00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:09.940
can talk about the thing that annoys you So.
1408
00:56:09.860 --> 00:56:13.639
Let's start on a positive. The positive is, oh, my God,
1409
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.099
where do I start? And he'll probably be listening to this,
1410
00:56:16.139 --> 00:56:17.280
so there's a lot of pressure here.
1411
00:56:17.579 --> 00:56:20.059
It's a pretty popular show, actually. Probably will just by chance.
1412
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.170
I mean, to sum it up, if you said to Azura,
1413
00:56:23.389 --> 00:56:24.949
what do you love about your dad?
1414
00:56:25.210 --> 00:56:27.630
She would literally say everything, I swear.
1415
00:56:27.650 --> 00:56:34.429
They have that beautiful father-daughter relationship, and I love watching that.
1416
00:56:34.530 --> 00:56:40.380
I love watching how present he is. for her, how caring, considerate, patient.
1417
00:56:40.579 --> 00:56:42.800
But he's, you know, like dads are so good at
1418
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.769
being strict, but then they're so loving as well. And
1419
00:56:45.829 --> 00:56:48.789
he's got that lovely balance. And he's just a very
1420
00:56:48.829 --> 00:56:51.969
hands-on parent and they love and respect their dad so much.
1421
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.659
And I love watching that. That brings me a lot
1422
00:56:55.699 --> 00:56:56.090
of joy.
1423
00:56:56.139 --> 00:56:58.980
So I'd say it makes me worry about how little
1424
00:56:59.019 --> 00:57:01.099
my children respect me. But there we go.
1425
00:57:01.340 --> 00:57:01.900
Really?
1426
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:03.239
No, I'm fine.
1427
00:57:03.300 --> 00:57:03.699
I'm fine.
1428
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:04.079
I'm fine.
1429
00:57:04.139 --> 00:57:06.679
I just don't think that's limited to your kids. I
1430
00:57:06.699 --> 00:57:08.739
think in general, Josh, you've got that kind of vibe.
1431
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.940
I think the worst thing about him in terms of.
1432
00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:14.639
OK, OK.
1433
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.889
He's never wrong. Right. He's right.
1434
00:57:19.210 --> 00:57:23.130
And when you're quite a stubborn person too, yeah, that
1435
00:57:23.550 --> 00:57:25.880
we definitely, you know, we have to get to a
1436
00:57:25.909 --> 00:57:28.380
place sometimes where we agree to disagree because he has...
1437
00:57:28.780 --> 00:57:30.989
His beliefs and I have my beliefs. So we can
1438
00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:34.369
clash sometimes in that respect. But he, overall, I hate
1439
00:57:34.389 --> 00:57:37.070
the fact that I can't find anything bad to criticise
1440
00:57:37.110 --> 00:57:38.409
about him. Right.
1441
00:57:38.590 --> 00:57:41.949
But he's always right. Because I can't imagine you two arguing.
1442
00:57:41.969 --> 00:57:44.150
Because I think I'd find you quite intimidated. You know
1443
00:57:44.170 --> 00:57:44.889
what we argue about?
1444
00:57:44.909 --> 00:57:46.010
No, what? What do you argue about?
1445
00:57:46.289 --> 00:57:46.590
Go on.
1446
00:57:46.610 --> 00:57:47.110
The heating.
1447
00:57:47.900 --> 00:57:49.360
The heating.
1448
00:57:49.579 --> 00:57:52.699
Because he has it. So there is like Jamaica and
1449
00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:54.360
Nigeria in the house all the time.
1450
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.139
And I like it. You know, I'd like a nice,
1451
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:00.469
happy medium. So we're constantly fighting over the heating. It's
1452
00:58:00.489 --> 00:58:03.550
the silly things that we we bicker about. But, yeah,
1453
00:58:03.590 --> 00:58:05.949
the heating is one of the most annoying things. But
1454
00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:08.409
as far as the kids are concerned, that's the one
1455
00:58:08.469 --> 00:58:09.920
area we don't really argue.
1456
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:10.320
Right.
1457
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:11.480
OK, that's good.
1458
00:58:11.739 --> 00:58:14.619
Because I think you'd be quite intimidating in an argument, Alicia. Well,
1459
00:58:14.699 --> 00:58:18.159
I think because you're very articulate and very intelligent, but
1460
00:58:18.260 --> 00:58:21.059
also you've sort of lived a real life and, you know,
1461
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:22.880
you're using mystique. I feel like you could fuck me
1462
00:58:22.940 --> 00:58:25.639
up if you wanted to. Do you know what I mean?
1463
00:58:25.659 --> 00:58:27.429
I feel like you've got, you know, you've lived a
1464
00:58:27.449 --> 00:58:29.170
real life. There's an edge to it. If you want
1465
00:58:29.190 --> 00:58:31.409
to go outside of spoons, you can handle yourself.
1466
00:58:31.690 --> 00:58:35.199
I think we've lasted for 12 years because... He can
1467
00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:38.500
outsmart me sometimes, which I secretly love, but I also
1468
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.239
hate it. He's very smart himself and very sharp. But then,
1469
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:43.929
you know, there's a lot of banter and a lot
1470
00:58:43.949 --> 00:58:45.789
of laughter in our house, and I think that's the
1471
00:58:45.809 --> 00:58:46.809
best medicine for everything.
1472
00:58:46.829 --> 00:58:48.130
Really? Oh, lovely.
1473
00:58:48.449 --> 00:58:51.090
Thanks, Alicia. It's been absolutely amazing. Good luck with your
1474
00:58:51.170 --> 00:58:51.590
new book.
1475
00:58:51.750 --> 00:58:52.550
Oh, thanks, guys.
1476
00:58:52.670 --> 00:58:53.659
What's the title again?
1477
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.900
It's Lunar Wolf Animal Wizard. Yes.
1478
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.139
Let's get that to 200,000 sales, Rob. Yes.
1479
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.110
Perfect. It's coming out in March 2023.
1480
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March the 2nd, but you can pre-order it now.
1481
00:59:06.510 --> 00:59:06.670
Perfect.
1482
00:59:08.059 --> 00:59:08.980
Thank you, Alicia.
1483
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:10.019
Thanks, guys.
1484
00:59:12.659 --> 00:59:15.409
Alicia Dixon, there we go. What a lovely woman.
1485
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I love her.
1486
00:59:16.269 --> 00:59:16.610
She's great.
1487
00:59:16.650 --> 00:59:19.510
I met her once before at some sort of awards do.
1488
00:59:19.630 --> 00:59:25.039
She's really... She's really normal. Even though she's on these
1489
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.500
big shows, she's a really normal, hard-working person that's lived
1490
00:59:28.539 --> 00:59:32.059
a proper life. And she's worked really hard and now
1491
00:59:32.219 --> 00:59:34.519
doing really well. So it's nice when you see someone
1492
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:35.340
nice doing well.
1493
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.500
Exactly. It's so rare in our industry.
1494
00:59:37.940 --> 00:59:41.179
But, Josh, I wanted to shout with a one-sonship so much.
1495
00:59:41.409 --> 00:59:42.550
But it's too late now, Rob.
1496
00:59:42.610 --> 00:59:44.429
I know, but it would have been disrespectful to do
1497
00:59:44.449 --> 00:59:45.349
it to her. It would have.
1498
00:59:45.869 --> 00:59:47.449
Wouldn't it? Would a one-sonship?
1499
00:59:47.469 --> 00:59:49.730
Misty, God, would a one-sonship? Because she can sort of
1500
00:59:49.889 --> 00:59:52.409
garage MC, and she doesn't really do it much.
1501
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:54.599
Anymore, but I think she's really good at it. I
1502
00:59:54.860 --> 00:59:56.960
think what's more disrespectful is just doing it once you
1503
00:59:56.980 --> 00:59:58.840
know she's not on the Zoom call. But there we go.
1504
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.360
No, I think... talking about people behind their backs very
1505
01:00:02.380 --> 01:00:05.739
underrated and i think it's something that really helps.
1506
01:00:05.780 --> 01:00:08.199
That's what we should call this section where we talk
1507
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.050
about the guest behind their backs.
1508
01:00:10.170 --> 01:00:12.650
Yes basically i wanted to ask her if she finds
1509
01:00:12.690 --> 01:00:15.170
it annoying that mystique from x-men has sort of superseded
1510
01:00:15.210 --> 01:00:15.949
mystique the.
1511
01:00:15.869 --> 01:00:18.690
Group all right yeah i'm glad you stuck with the
1512
01:00:18.730 --> 01:00:19.690
questions you went with
1513
01:00:19.949 --> 01:00:22.989
Yeah fair enough right see you tuesday bye