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Hello, I'm Josh Whitacombe.
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And I'm Rob Beckett.
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Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob
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and I discuss what it's like to be a parent
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during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky.
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Yeah!
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Yeah!
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So, in an effort to make some kind of sense
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of the current situation... And to.
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Make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills.
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Each episode we'll be chatting to a famous parent about.
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How well they're coping. Or hopefully not.
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And we will be hearing from you, the listener, with
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your tales of lockdown parenting woe.
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Because, let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello,
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and you are listening to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Can
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you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Bickett.
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And Josh Widdicombe.
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Josh Widdicombe.
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There we go. Very cute, that was. Who was that?
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That was a lovely, lovely rendition. So, my wife went
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to unicorn-themed first birthday party. Sorry, that sounds like the
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start of a joke, doesn't it?
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then she'd come back with a horn.
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That's lovely business, Rob. Lovely business. I love to say
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that's true, but that's never happened. It doesn't exist. Welcome
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to Jonglers.
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Seems all the kids had to dress up as dickheads
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for the group photo.
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Not sure why. Oh, my God, yes. Oh, my word, Rob.
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So it's the kids with unicorn cocks on their head.
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I'm going to send it to you.
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It's not their cock, is it, for the unicorn's head?
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It's a horn, isn't it? It's a horn, but look
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at this. It looks like penises. Oh, no. It doesn't
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even look like... I thought it was going to look
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like a wrecked penis. It looks like a flaccid grandad dick.
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It really does. It's really inappropriate.
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On a poor child's head. Yeah, we will post it, though.
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Look at those children. Oh, those little grandad knobs on
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their head. Little grandad dick heads. Oh, that'd be fun
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to post.
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Also attached is Ruby, age three from Cambridge, doing your
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name to the intro. And the person who sent that
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is called Spike Jackson.
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Oh, Spike Jackson. I bet he was a quarterback at
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high school.
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So thank you to Spike Jackson for both the sound
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file and the superb penis content.
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A hundred quid, his name's actually Simon. He nicknamed himself Splack.
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How are you, Rob? Good, good. Yeah, not too bad. Well,
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we should say, we've pre-recorded this week's episodes because this week,
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Rose is having a planned C-section. So Tuesday, we'll be
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back with baby news. But at the moment, we haven't
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had that before. Before. We had to record before, so
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you had a bit of time. with rows and stuff.
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You don't really want to be podcasting on the morning
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of the C-section, do you? It would, it would be awkward.
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It would be live from the, live from the operating.
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Is it operate? Is it delivery room or is it
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operating theater? It's basically, it's an operating theater. Yeah. It's weird.
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So I know this from the first time when we
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had an emergency one that they go around and they
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all have to say what they do. Oh, so before
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the C-section, they're like, I'm Steve. Uh, my job is to,
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it's a bit like the start of like a, Take
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me out or something.
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Single surgeon, reveal yourself. Let the knife see the skin. Yeah,
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it's a weird old one. It's a weird old world, Rob. Well,
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good luck with it, Josh. How have you been, though,
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apart from C-section? How's the three-year-old excited about the news?
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I would say she has definitely got into the idea.
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She's really into the idea of... But she seems a
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lot happier than she did a couple of weeks ago, Rob.
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Oh, that's good.
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But I am nervy about it. That's the thing I'm
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most nervy about.
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Yes. But you can't worry about that. Just concentrate on
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the C-section and then that will sort itself out. Do
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you just make her feel a bit special? Because I'm
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sure Rose's mum will be around to take her out
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and do things with her. She'll quite enjoy that, I think,
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at the start and be quite excited to be a
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part of it. I'll be honest with you, Rob. Yeah,
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be honest. I'm going to say it. Go on. If
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it's all healthy, it's all great. Exactly.
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But my friends who've got a two-month-old, their second baby,
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they've implied that it's a piece of piss to me, Rob.
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Wow. Okay.
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Their first child really didn't sleep, still doesn't really. So
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the fact they've got this baby that just sleeps all
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the time, I don't think they can quite believe it.
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Yeah, I think also as well, I think, yeah, if
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you've got one that sleeps, you're all right. But I
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do think it's easier the second time when they're babies. Honestly,
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you're not as nervous, not as worried. It just gets
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tiring when they get older and they're running. You've got
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two kids to chase after. Yeah. Do you reckon there
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is a bit of a honeymoon period? Definitely. I think so.
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Especially when they're first born. Because a lot of the
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time they may be getting up in the middle of
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the night to feed them, but you are quite used
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to waking up in the middle of the night now.
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It's not like unheard of to get five hours sleep
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and be woken up. So you're like, oh, okay, I'll
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get up and feed that baby. And then the baby
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sleeps during the day and things like that. So it's not.
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Too bad. And also she's in preschool, isn't she? And stuff.
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It's not the big summer holidays yet. So no, you've got,
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you've got a bit of time in the day, just
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you and the baby in that. Yeah. You'll be fine.
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I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I'll be good. I'll
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be honest with you, Rob.
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Yeah.
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I spoke to my publisher and they said, are you
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all right just to do a read through of all
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the changes next week? And I was like, I have
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got quite a lot on.
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Cause I don't know about you. When I, when I
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had our second baby, I thought, you know what would
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make this easier to read through an entire book? To
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read a book really intently. Surely someone else can do
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that instead of you. You know, it's 3.30 in the morning. Yeah.
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The baby's crying.
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I should just give a look over to that chapter
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to see whether I libel anyone.
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That kind of thing. Surely they could sort that out.
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Who's your publisher? Derek Trotter? Oh, they do, Rob. They do.
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I've just got trust issues, haven't I? You've got to
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learn to delegate. That's what Richard Bryan said. You've got
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to learn to delegate. Just trust other people to do it.
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Well, they come back. They go, we're just going to
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put the book out. We've made the changes. And I go,
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I'm sorry, but can we delay the C-section? Because I
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do need to read it again. Thank you very much.
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I wouldn't read it through. I just trust them to
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change the spelling errors. They're not going to publish a
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book with spelling mistakes, are they? What if there's no typos, Rob?
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But I look like a twat. Well, I'd say sometimes
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we are twats. deep why are you hiding it if
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you wrote it down you meant it that's my philosophy
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do you know what i mean you can go back
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through it and take it out because you know you
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feel guilty but you meant it that's that's the main
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thing whether anyone reads it or not you know what
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you meant yeah but don't worry it'll be fine it'll
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be fine um we've got um do you want a
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quick email before we uh introduce our guest choose um
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should i give you some titles yeah give me some
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titles okay school run angst Oh, yes, please. Yeah, I
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like school run stuff. I don't even want... What's the
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other one? You don't want... Give me an option. The
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other option is terrifying moment of being locked outside of
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the house with the two-year-old, the baby locked inside. Yeah,
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that one now, actually. I've changed my mind. That does
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sound good.
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Yeah.
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Both. We'll have both. Let's have both. Let's have both.
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Let's treat ourselves. It's Friday, isn't it? It's Friday. Have
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you got that Friday feeling, Rob? Are you going golfing?
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That's why I'm going off the mic, because I'm doing
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that thing in the video. It's Friday, you know, when
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the car's going along. It's Friday, then a Thursday. Friday.
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
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I have never heard that in my life. And it
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sounds like you're having a breakdown.
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You must have seen it. The gays are in the car.
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They drive the car along. He jumps out the car
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and he dances alongside the car. And it's like, it's
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Friday then. Thursday, Friday. Josh. What are you looking at
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on your phone? How is that not in your algorithm?
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You sound like my wife. You must know that. It's
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like a me. What am I looking at on my phone? Generally.
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Sports news. Sports news and then texts. Written pornography you like,
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don't you? I like written pornography from the Victorian times.
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Your favourite one's Busted Flush, isn't it?
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My friend, Rob, who's a bit, he's sexually odd, let's
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say that. When he was a teenager, he couldn't access
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any pornography in his house.
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Okay. And he had a wank over the definition of
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vagina in the dictionary. That is the weirdest thing I've
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ever heard in my life. Are you serious? He was
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so in need of stimulus. Oh, my God.
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And he lacked imagination so much that he just had
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a wank over the definition of vagina in the dictionary.
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The only way that would have been weirder if he
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did it on Braille.
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I just don't know how you could be turned on.
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By the definition of vagina.
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Hang on, read it out and let's see if I am. Okay.
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Read out the definition of vagina.
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This is a terrible thing to have in your Google
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search history, but I'm going to.
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Give me the definition of a vagina and I'll let
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you know if it's doing anything for you. Okay. The
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muscular tube... Oh my God, too fair. Muscular got me.
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Carry on. I don't think I've encountered muscly ones. The
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muscular tube? That is an absolutely ripped fanny, that. Look
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at it. Well, I've been working out, Rob. Don't forget
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leg day, old faff over there. Look at that. Six
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pack on that vagina. I'm exhausted. Sorry, muscular tube.
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The muscular tube leading from the external genitals to the
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cervix of the uterus in women and most female mammals.
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No, you lost me at muscular. It felt like it
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was going down the route, but I don't think I
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could have a wank to that. No. You know, I'm
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pretty good at them. Yeah, yeah. You know. You've knocked
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it out in your time, haven't you? I've worked away
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from home a lot. Anyway, let's get back to this email. Yeah, okay.
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My oldest daughter was two when our son was born. Well,
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I know this person, by the way.
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What?
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You sent the email. The dictionary. Oh, sorry.
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Yes, you do know that person, yes.
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No, is it? Oh, of course he would. Yeah. It
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all makes sense now. Knowing him, that's more of a
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Josh Riddick. I've never had a Krispy Kreme brag, I think.
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More than perfect.
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Well, should I tell you another thing that he's done
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as well? Because we're not naming him.
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No. He was once a broad... Yeah. And he couldn't
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access his pornography. Yeah. Uh, so he drew his own pornography.
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I mean, that is absolutely insane. How did he have
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the patience? I can't deal with buffering. Do you want
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to know what he drew? Yeah. I want to know. Uh,
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it was a, a woman giving a blow job. Yep. Right.
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But, um, because he, uh, didn't want to draw the
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naked man. It was basically a woman giving a blowjob
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to a penis and balls that were just floating in
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the air.
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And what a guy he is. I think we need more,
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we need to give him a name and more stories
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about him and we'll never reveal what he's called.
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We could get him to call in to the show
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on a different day and we'll put one of those
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voice things on it. My eldest daughter was two when
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our son was born. She was about to drop something, something.
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She was very excited. He is a very good artist. Wanksy.
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His name's Wanksy. Oh, glorious. That is glorious. Good stuff,
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isn't it?
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Really good stuff. My oldest daughter was two when our
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son was born. She was very excited about it. It's
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been a real gear change in that sentence.
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From C-section to invisible men's dicks. She was very excited
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about the new baby.
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And we did all the, what do you think it
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will be like when he, she is here chats with her.
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Yeah. First off, she liked him for all about two minutes.
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Should we read this out on Tuesday? Cause we've done
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20 minutes. We only want to do 10.
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Lucy Pond. We'll stick, we'll stick a pin in Lucy
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Pond's email.
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This is Pond. I'm sorry about this.
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We're sorry, Lucy, but we feel it's more respectful.
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To invisible dicks to children. Let's move Pond to Tuesday. Hello, everyone.
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It's Alan here.
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I just wanted to tell you about my brand-new podcast
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coming next week, Lights of Beach. This podcast is the
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escapism we all need right now. I sat down and
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chatted with some of my famous friends about everything travel,
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from caravanning in Rio to private jetting to the Maldives.
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My guests spill the beans on their holiday horrors and
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dream destinations. Let's face it, we might not have the
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sun on our faces, but after a listen to this,
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you'll definitely have a smile. First episode is the very
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funny Romesh Ranganathan. And coming up, we've got Robbie Williams,
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Jessie Ware and her mum Lenny, Michael McIntyre, Rufus Wainwright,
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Rob Rinder, James Blunt, Dustin Lance Black. Oh, fasten your seatbelts.
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It's going to be a fantastic ride.
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Sam Quek, welcome to the podcast. You are our first
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Olympic gold medalist.
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Oh, I'm honoured. Thank you.
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That is exciting though. That is such a big achievement.
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Do you get bored of it being brought up or
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does it still feel good when you hear it?
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No, it still feels good. Even when I get my medal,
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sometimes it still feels good. Any opportunity, I'm like, oh,
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here's my medal.
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Have you put your medal on your baby?
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I actually haven't put it on her. I put it
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next to her. I took a photo with it because
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she had like her own little personal portrait photo shoot
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a few weeks ago. So she actually, the gold medals
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are getting bigger and bigger. But bless Molly, she makes
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it look even bigger because she's so small.
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So what's the setup at home? You've got one child?
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Yes, one child who is eight weeks this week. So
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proper fresh.
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How are you feeling? Because I think at eight weeks old,
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I wouldn't have... been able to speak to someone about
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having it so in the trenches. But how's it going?
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It's going really well. I'm blessed to have Tom, who's brilliant.
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I mean, I'm not great at the best of times
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without sleep, but he is really stepping up to do
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some of the night feeds. So I'm actually feeling okay.
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The first two weeks are really tough. I think you
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just got to, well, like, you know, figure out the
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baby and what their cues are, what they like, what
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they don't like, what works, what doesn't work. So I
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can sit here at eight weeks and say, listen, it's
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not easy. I don't think it's easy for anyone, but
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I can't complain because she is a star and I've
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got a good support system.
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What I like is you do slightly talk, you still
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talk slightly like you're discussing a run of sporting fixtures.
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It's bad to say that, Josh. That was a classic
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response from an athlete. It was emotionless, broken down into
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what is our goal? How are we going to attack it?
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And we're being successful. Let's just crack on. It's a
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new week next week. The boys are happy in the
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changing room.
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We'll print out the next spreadsheet.
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Are you very organised then? You sound a very organised
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and controlled mum.
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Would you say, you know, we've had poo splats all
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over the white wardrobes a number of times, you know,
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puke filled clothes and whatnot. Just the standard. I think
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most parents will probably know what I'm going on about,
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but I didn't expect it to be what it is.
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I don't know why. I just, every so often I
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look at her and I'm like, oh my God, that's mine.
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LAUGHTER Is it a responsibility or an excitement sort of
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way or both?
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Both, both because I've always, especially as an athlete, you
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grow up and you have to be really selfish. Even
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to the point in a relationship, I was very much,
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it was always about me, what I couldn't go to,
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what dates were I available to, can I drink, can
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I not drink? And then like that was marriage and
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then just me and Tom, but now I've got a kid.
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It's like another level of, oh my God, you have
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to look after this thing who can't do anything for itself.
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And even just like, I mean, I'm expressing and I
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feel like a cow that needs to be milked, but
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because she's getting bigger, she's wanting more milk. And I'm like, oh,
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my God, just even stuff like that, trying to provide
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milk for a child.
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Peep up demand. It's like a small brand that's popped
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off in lockdown on Insta. You haven't got the supply
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chain yet.
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Well, I said to my husband, I said, I'm just
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pumping milk. What are we going to do with all
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this milk? And he said, I can definitely get some
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away on eBay, definitely. I'm an Olympic gold medalist. We'll
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make a good.
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LAUGHTER Gold medal milk, the fuel of champions.
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Very strange piece of sporting memorabilia.
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I think it would sell.
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You say that, but I've been asked for some really
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weird stuff before. Some people wanted my old shoes and socks.
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I don't know what they wanted them for.
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I think I do.
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What do you think?
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You know. Let's not be naive about this. This is
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some sick fucks knocking about, Sam.
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Another request as well. Someone wanted a recording of me,
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of me farting through a walkie-talkie.
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Oh, wow.
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That's the best one I've had.
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The walkie-talkie is perhaps the weirdest bit of that.
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Well, it's not actually.
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It's not the weirdest bit of that.
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So you're eight weeks in. Do you feel like sleep
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deprived at all? Or you seem like you're pretty with it.
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It's because I've had a coffee. I mean, I used
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to be a coffee fiend and then obviously cut it
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down or didn't really have any during pregnancy. So now
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like when I have a whiff of coffee, I am
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bouncing off the walls.
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Oh, I bet.
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Yeah, it's like when you don't drink for a while
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and then you're hammered after one pint.
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Yeah, I've still got that to come, actually. I've still
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got my first drink slash binge drink to come post-pregnancy.
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Yeah, have you got anything booked in? Because as a comedian,
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the first night out of a recent mum is normally
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pretty hardcore. That is when people really let loose because
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it's been over a year normally with the pregnancy and
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then the baby being small. Have you got that night
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out booked?
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Um, I've got my good friend's hen do down in
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London actually on the 22nd of May. So that's the next,
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that'll be a big event.
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Is it the first time you have left your daughter?
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Um, overnight.
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Yeah. Yeah. How'd you feel?
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A little bit nervous, but then I say that, but
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knowing me, like as soon as I get a drink
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in my hand and sunshine and I'll be like, but no,
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I think, I mean, I trust Tom implicitly. So, I
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won't be too nervous. I'll probably miss her, but.
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And how's it working for you? Because you don't play
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hockey anymore. And so your schedule isn't as intense as
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an athlete's now, but now it's a bit more ad
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hoc media stuff. And me and Josh work in the
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media and freelance stuff. Sometimes you're working every day at
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weird hours or you're not working at all. Have you
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taken a block of time off? Were you going straight
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back in? What's your plan? That's the tricky thing, isn't it?
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With the childcare and stuff. Yeah, massively.
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And I think having a child that small, you can
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make a schedule, but it's all on her schedule and
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all on her. She'll eat when she wants to eat.
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You can plan to leave at a certain time and
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then you just end up being half an hour late
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for whatever reason. But in terms of work, it's been
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okay because I'm lucky enough and fortunate enough now to
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be in a position where I can afford to say, actually,
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I can't do that job, but I can do that job.
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It's not too bad. I've worked a few days since... Actually,
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a week after she was born, I was filming Who
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Wants to Be a Millionaire?
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No. How many days?
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It was only the day. It was only in Salford,
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so it was only about 45 minutes from us.
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Oh, no, but how many days after the baby was
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born was that? A week.
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A week?
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Wow.
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I can't tell you the opportunity to win a good
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amount of money for a charity.
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For charity? No chance after a week old. I thought
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you was going to do it yourself. I'm joking. So
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did you bring her with you?
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Yeah, so we went to the studio and Tom came
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with me and I kind of sat in the dressing room,
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had my Nando's, getting Molly a feed, and then I
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went down to the green room to record and Tom
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was there, pushing her in the pram, feeding her.
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Tom weren't phoning a friend, was he? You're like, quick question,
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leave it. He's gone down, whispering. He's asleep, Sam.
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He was and he got it wrong. I think it
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was because of the whole like had baby in one
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hand and phone in the other and was like getting
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proper stress.
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So basically the first person you hung out with away
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from your baby was Jeremy Clarkson.
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I know. I've got actually, I've got a picture sat
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on the chair with the baby and Jeremy Clarkson and
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Jeremy was brilliant. He was a good crack, but he
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did not crack a smile. It's just, it's like, it's
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the funniest picture. So when it airs, I'm actually going
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to post that picture on my Instagram.
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Oh yeah, defo.
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Everyone to share the joy in that picture.
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Yeah. How did you feel, though, like, you know, in
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yourself going on telly? Because, you know, there's a lot
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of people after giving birth a week later would feel
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very self-conscious about going on telly after a week. Was
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you nervous? Was you worried? Or you just didn't care?
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How did you feel?
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I was probably, to be honest, still off my head
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on all the dimorphine and everything else that I had
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during the thing. But I was okay. I was obviously
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nervous because it's more the logistics. I get quite wound up, like,
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where am I going to park the pram? What if
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she's hot? What if it's cold?
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Yeah.
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Have I got this? Have I got that? But it
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felt like I was packing for a week away.
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I'm not going to.
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Normally you just get your handbag, your purse, your phone,
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bit of lippy, everything you need. And then, but with
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a baby, honestly, it's like two bags, pram.
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Well, yeah, also as well, it's a 45-minute journey. That's
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quite a lumpy journey, you were saying, to get there.
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Because even if you were visiting someone 45 minutes away,
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that would be a stressful day and you'd be going
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in their house. But to go there and then sit
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opposite Jeremy Clarkson with the pressure to win money for charity,
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that is an intense afternoon.
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Mate, it was really intense. But as I say, I
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think I started packing two days before I actually had
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to be there because there's just so much stuff to remember.
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And it was the first time we'd been out. But
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I was a little bit sore, but found the best
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pair of Spanx and Hold Me In's, you know, and
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all that. Bit of professional help on the hair and face.
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And I felt like a new woman. I just couldn't
481
00:21:57.329 --> 00:21:59.190
eat or drink too much because the amount of elastic
482
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I was wearing around my waist.
483
00:22:01.609 --> 00:22:07.599
Fair enough. Well, well played. Yeah. Now, no one will
484
00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:09.200
be able to watch that episode of her going, a
485
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:12.519
week ago she gave birth. No. Unbelievable. You should just
486
00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.450
get the prize pot for that. Never mind the questions.
487
00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:18.670
I hope so. I did blather that point time and
488
00:22:18.690 --> 00:22:22.230
time again in case I got any ridiculously easy questions wrong.
489
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:29.789
I was like really conscious as well. I had to
490
00:22:29.829 --> 00:22:33.539
change colour top. because of my boobs kept leaking. Yeah,
491
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:35.960
so proper boob leakage. And I was like, I had
492
00:22:35.980 --> 00:22:40.109
this like ready top on, but I was like, that's
493
00:22:40.150 --> 00:22:41.509
not going to be great, is it? If I start
494
00:22:41.569 --> 00:22:45.730
sweating on whatever thousand pound question, getting a little nervous, or,
495
00:22:45.750 --> 00:22:47.549
you know, I hear a baby cry in the background.
496
00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:50.039
People aren't going to want to see leaky boobs on
497
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national TV.
498
00:22:50.490 --> 00:22:52.819
No. And going forward with the stuff like that, is
499
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.140
Tom working full time? Is Tom, what's the plan with
500
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:57.220
the parenting? Is it going to be 50-50? Or is
501
00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.660
it going to be flexible? Like, How do you see
502
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:00.980
it going with that kind of thing? Because you have
503
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.819
to have that conversation, don't you, when the baby's coming?
504
00:23:04.099 --> 00:23:06.450
Yeah, we're really fortunate because he's got his own company.
505
00:23:06.470 --> 00:23:08.630
He works a lot from home. So as long as
506
00:23:08.690 --> 00:23:11.170
I tell him in advance my diary and what I
507
00:23:11.210 --> 00:23:14.089
need to do. So, for example, he's upstairs in bed
508
00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:16.430
at the moment because he did the night feed last night.
509
00:23:16.450 --> 00:23:18.150
So he was having a nap. And I was like,
510
00:23:18.190 --> 00:23:19.509
I've got to go. Here you go. So I, like,
511
00:23:19.589 --> 00:23:22.109
pushed a little, you know, next to me bed into
512
00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:24.670
the spare room where he sometimes spends his time.
513
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LAUGHTER yeah oh so it's nice and flexible that's a
514
00:23:29.750 --> 00:23:31.650
good way because it must be it's so hard to
515
00:23:31.670 --> 00:23:33.619
try and balance that but that works really well then
516
00:23:33.630 --> 00:23:34.309
I imagine.
517
00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:36.339
Yeah definitely and it's like you say with our work
518
00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:38.579
it's you never really know where you are you know
519
00:23:38.819 --> 00:23:40.380
unless it's like a week I mean a week in
520
00:23:40.420 --> 00:23:43.519
advance is generous on time sometimes in this industry isn't
521
00:23:43.539 --> 00:23:44.940
it knowing where you're going to be yeah.
522
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:47.500
And I think like sometimes I don't really appreciate how
523
00:23:47.579 --> 00:23:50.420
like much Lou has to sort of compromise to fitting
524
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.089
around that even though I'm not choosing for that to
525
00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:53.710
happen but like you say if a call comes in
526
00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:56.359
and goes There's this thing next week. You just have
527
00:23:56.380 --> 00:23:57.960
to go, Lou, you've got to do that. Or Tom,
528
00:23:57.980 --> 00:23:59.339
you've got to do that. So at least, you know,
529
00:23:59.460 --> 00:24:01.319
it makes a massive, it really helps, doesn't it? Take
530
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:01.900
the stress off.
531
00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:03.599
Yeah, but you said you've got a little one running
532
00:24:03.619 --> 00:24:04.819
around the garden at the moment, haven't you?
533
00:24:05.259 --> 00:24:07.480
Yeah, well, yeah. Okay, you've dogged me in. I said
534
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.119
that in confidence. Lou went to pick up the old
535
00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:12.730
dish from school and we were recording this and there's
536
00:24:12.769 --> 00:24:15.309
a three-year-old in my garden, which is mine. Which is yours,
537
00:24:15.329 --> 00:24:17.339
to be clear. I'll be honest with you, yeah. There
538
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.539
was about six minutes I'd forgot that she was still here.
539
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:20.980
But then I checked and she was on the slide
540
00:24:21.009 --> 00:24:22.990
and it was fine. So is she still running around
541
00:24:23.009 --> 00:24:23.829
the slide now, Rob?
542
00:24:24.289 --> 00:24:24.589
No, no.
543
00:24:24.869 --> 00:24:27.220
She's sort of just laying next to it, not moving. No, no.
544
00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:31.230
Lose back. Lose back. All my kids are fine and safe.
545
00:24:31.309 --> 00:24:32.069
They're all good.
546
00:24:32.349 --> 00:24:36.720
So with Tom doing the night feeds and stuff, do
547
00:24:36.779 --> 00:24:40.319
you just sleep through fine? Or do you feel any
548
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.160
guilt about him doing the nights?
549
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:43.259
No. No.
550
00:24:47.210 --> 00:24:49.970
No, we do take it into, he does the majority
551
00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:53.170
of nights, but I do some nights as well. But
552
00:24:53.609 --> 00:24:55.789
to be honest, I said to Tom, listen, we may
553
00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:57.049
as well kind of share and do a bit of
554
00:24:57.069 --> 00:24:59.430
both or I can do more nights because going back
555
00:24:59.470 --> 00:25:01.480
to the whole boob situation, I have to get up
556
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.500
every like three or four hours to express. So I'm
557
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.920
up and about anyway. But she actually, I mean, I
558
00:25:07.980 --> 00:25:11.539
say this touching word, last night she slept from, She
559
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.039
had a big bottle at about half twelve, one o'clock,
560
00:25:14.140 --> 00:25:15.660
and she slept all the way through till seven.
561
00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:19.240
Oh, my God. I mean, this compared to the Tom
562
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.700
Parry episode, who also had a child of eight weeks old,
563
00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:26.930
is absolutely miles apart. I've got a dream.
564
00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:27.829
She loves to dream.
565
00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:30.589
Well, I think there's a combo where it might be
566
00:25:30.630 --> 00:25:32.490
she's quite a dream and she's a good sleeper, but
567
00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:35.170
also it does feel like your life's a lot more
568
00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:38.309
structured than Tom Parry's. Either that or I'm just.
569
00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:39.700
Not waking up listening and crying.
570
00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:42.779
Yeah, just letting her scream. Oh, that's good though, because
571
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.039
that little extra sleep makes a massive difference, I suppose.
572
00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:50.269
Do you find, but you feel like you're a together person.
573
00:25:50.609 --> 00:25:53.490
Surely there's like a mental strength you get from being
574
00:25:53.529 --> 00:25:58.589
a kind of top sports star. What a weird phrase.
575
00:25:58.670 --> 00:25:59.809
I just used sports star.
576
00:25:59.849 --> 00:26:02.650
She's a sports star. Yeah, you are. You're getting old.
577
00:26:02.670 --> 00:26:04.950
I think this is you getting old. He's a really
578
00:26:04.990 --> 00:26:10.079
weird terminology. I just had visions of your voice when
579
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.539
you're 80 and it is going to be so mental.
580
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:17.079
You sound 70 now. Look at Josh Millican's voice when
581
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.140
he's 80. Are you one of them sports stars?
582
00:26:20.420 --> 00:26:23.509
I found my mental strength was really tested in those
583
00:26:23.549 --> 00:26:25.910
first two months. But you feel like you've just You've
584
00:26:25.950 --> 00:26:26.730
walked it, Sam.
585
00:26:27.069 --> 00:26:30.059
No, listen, it sounds great. But the first two weeks
586
00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:32.539
I was an emotional wreck. Like I was crying at
587
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.579
the most ridiculous things. I remember walking down the stairs
588
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.880
with her and I just burst into tears, walked into
589
00:26:38.900 --> 00:26:41.240
the kitchen and sat there like sobbing, but like not
590
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.140
even crying, like uncontrollable sobbing. Cause I thought, oh my God,
591
00:26:45.539 --> 00:26:46.700
what if I drop her down the stairs?
592
00:26:47.420 --> 00:26:47.660
Yeah.
593
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.039
Like I hadn't dropped her down the stairs. Like nothing
594
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.859
was wrong, but like all these thoughts and I just
595
00:26:51.900 --> 00:26:53.700
burst into tears and Tom walked in and he was like,
596
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:55.569
oh my, what is wrong with you? And I was like,
597
00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:58.240
I just thought, what if I drop her down the stairs,
598
00:26:58.259 --> 00:26:59.960
like just irrationally.
599
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.549
Which is your hormones go mad, don't they? After you
600
00:27:02.769 --> 00:27:05.670
give birth. I think when we did NCT, they spoke
601
00:27:05.710 --> 00:27:08.049
about it and just like your body's just flooded with
602
00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:10.569
hormones and it's sort of good or bad and energy
603
00:27:10.589 --> 00:27:12.569
and all sorts that sends you a bit. you know,
604
00:27:12.589 --> 00:27:14.069
off the Richter for a few weeks.
605
00:27:14.089 --> 00:27:17.750
Say it absolutely or repeat doolally, whatever you can say.
606
00:27:17.549 --> 00:27:19.750
To your baby. I don't know what that would be.
607
00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:22.349
Just a heads up for Tom, that doesn't sort of
608
00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:25.119
completely ebb away. That will happen when they're at four
609
00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:28.680
and they're having hormonal arguments with the kids.
610
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.079
It's mad though because you know that you're, there's like,
611
00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:34.779
I would start an argument but then know in the
612
00:27:34.819 --> 00:27:36.960
back of my head, Sam, you're just being ridiculous here.
613
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:40.559
But then me being stubborn, I carry, I go through
614
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.680
with the argument and still try to argue because I
615
00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:45.259
just don't, my little voice, I don't, I want to
616
00:27:45.299 --> 00:27:47.140
prove my little voice in my head wrong. So Tom
617
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.819
is onto a no winner sometimes, especially.
618
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.000
What have you argued with him about then in the
619
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.460
last couple of weeks? So like, you know, you were
620
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.769
in like the sort of the wrong, but you fancied around.
621
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.829
Just loads. Part of me is just like, I had
622
00:28:00.849 --> 00:28:02.250
to learn to just let him get on with it.
623
00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:05.329
So we had this big argument about microwaving breast milk.
624
00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:07.569
Sorry.
625
00:28:08.069 --> 00:28:12.099
So, from your... Would you microwave milk, Rob, Josh?
626
00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:21.819
I'd... I'd... I would... I would... Boil water. I would
627
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.099
do boiling water into a bowl and then put the
628
00:28:24.220 --> 00:28:26.500
milk bottle in it rather than microwave it, but I
629
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.119
don't know why. That just seems like a more organic
630
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.440
way of doing it. Well, would you microwave it?
631
00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:33.690
No, so I'd do the same as you, but after
632
00:28:33.750 --> 00:28:36.130
the argument, Tom now does it in boiled water.
633
00:28:36.730 --> 00:28:39.109
But before it was microwaving. So what is wrong with
634
00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:40.829
microwaving it, though? It does seem more efficient.
635
00:28:41.309 --> 00:28:41.529
It is.
636
00:28:41.930 --> 00:28:45.079
Everyone I know, I mean, it's not recommended to microwave
637
00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:47.819
it because you get hot spots in it. okay oh
638
00:28:47.980 --> 00:28:50.119
it's everyone i know and i've spoken to have been
639
00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:51.500
like yeah i just microwave it when you've got a
640
00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:54.220
crying baby put it in for like 20 seconds and
641
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.559
it's right you don't get it piping hot.
642
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.029
I forgot about heating up the milk like i'm so
643
00:29:00.089 --> 00:29:01.589
far away from well.
644
00:29:01.549 --> 00:29:03.309
You better fucking remember mate you've got a kid i'm.
645
00:29:03.269 --> 00:29:07.170
Coming in weeks but like um yeah two and a
646
00:29:07.890 --> 00:29:09.990
half weeks and i'm back at it with the old
647
00:29:10.019 --> 00:29:12.220
microwave i haven't even got a microwave.
648
00:29:13.579 --> 00:29:16.700
You can just put it in the sun. Should be
649
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.619
done by dawn. That's how we do it now, aren't we?
650
00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:23.039
But I tell you what's good, though, if you do
651
00:29:23.059 --> 00:29:25.960
go into bottle or, like, formula, because we didn't do
652
00:29:26.009 --> 00:29:28.490
breast for whatever reason, breast milk for too long, the
653
00:29:28.589 --> 00:29:32.529
Tommy Tippies are really good because it makes the formula
654
00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:34.609
milk really well at the right temperature. But, yeah, it does.
655
00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:36.890
Because I do that sometimes when you're cooking a curry,
656
00:29:37.309 --> 00:29:39.410
there's a bit of chicken that is, like, hotter than
657
00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:41.490
the sun than an actual bit of ice next to it.
658
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.579
So it must do the same with milk, just sort
659
00:29:43.619 --> 00:29:46.829
of get hot spots. But we're learning here, Josh. We are.
660
00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:48.250
I'll be honest with you.
661
00:29:48.349 --> 00:29:51.930
It just, that has really brought home to me how
662
00:29:52.589 --> 00:29:55.609
disconnected I am from the experience of having a baby.
663
00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:57.710
You know when you have a baby and you ask
664
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.799
people who've got a two-year-old, you're like, did you go
665
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.819
through this phase? And they're like, oh, I don't really remember.
666
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:03.619
And you're like, what is wrong with you?
667
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.779
But that's who I am.
668
00:30:05.819 --> 00:30:08.079
Maybe it's like a human reaction to because it was
669
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.880
like so terrible, like childbirth. You just forget about it
670
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.660
and you think, you know, let's have another one. So
671
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.579
like the time it was, maybe people forget.
672
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.319
Yeah. I mean, so what was the argument about just
673
00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:20.140
that you shouldn't do it in a microwave? And he said,
674
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.660
it doesn't matter. And you argued, but then he eventually
675
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:23.019
gave in.
676
00:30:23.450 --> 00:30:25.329
Yeah, but then it's just like irrational stuff when you're
677
00:30:25.349 --> 00:30:27.410
tired as well. Like who's taking out the nappy bin next?
678
00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:32.160
Yeah. Do you pick fights for reaction, Sam?
679
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.440
No, I pick fights because I probably get a little
680
00:30:34.460 --> 00:30:36.400
bit moody because I'm either tired or hungry.
681
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:39.750
Okay. So it's sort of a way to sort of,
682
00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:41.289
you feel like I want to vent, but I need
683
00:30:41.309 --> 00:30:41.769
a reason.
684
00:30:42.410 --> 00:30:44.470
Yeah, but I'm also, I'll hold my hands up and
685
00:30:44.490 --> 00:30:45.930
say I am at times a little bit of a
686
00:30:45.930 --> 00:30:49.640
control freak. And I think that is just being part
687
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:51.819
and part of like an athlete because you're in control
688
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.440
of your body, your schedule and bits and bobs like that.
689
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:58.640
So sometimes I'm terrible at not communicating, but I'll automatically
690
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.279
think that Tom knows what I'm thinking. So if in
691
00:31:01.339 --> 00:31:03.519
my head, I'm like, right, I've packed that, I've packed this,
692
00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:05.740
I've packed that, we'll leave at 10. And I've not
693
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.579
said that to Tom. My head sometimes presumes that he
694
00:31:08.619 --> 00:31:10.940
knows that we're leaving at 10 and we go to leave.
695
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:13.789
And I'm like, why aren't you ready? And he was like, well,
696
00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:15.660
what do you mean? And I said, we're leaving at 10.
697
00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:16.769
And he was like, well, you didn't tell me. And
698
00:31:16.809 --> 00:31:17.890
I'm like, Oh, yeah.
699
00:31:19.789 --> 00:31:21.109
I think me and Tom have a lot in common
700
00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:23.109
because Lou likes to do that as well. Not tell
701
00:31:23.150 --> 00:31:25.869
me what's happening and then tell me off. It's sort of, yeah,
702
00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:29.309
I think it must be, it's hard though, like when
703
00:31:29.329 --> 00:31:31.710
they're that small as well. And I think when you,
704
00:31:31.730 --> 00:31:34.009
like you say, your job is everything is like micromanaging
705
00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:36.470
controlled and then you sort of totally lose control of
706
00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:38.630
your body and stuff like that, where I imagine you
707
00:31:38.650 --> 00:31:40.210
want to sort of get back to fitness and things
708
00:31:40.230 --> 00:31:42.430
like that, but your body just won't let you yet.
709
00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:44.910
It must be hard to sort of, when your body's
710
00:31:44.930 --> 00:31:46.130
been your tool for so long.
711
00:31:46.430 --> 00:31:48.779
Yeah, when your mind's in, just sit in, have a
712
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:50.920
packet of crisps. You've got half an hour while the
713
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:55.440
baby's asleep, just watch telly, you know, relax. But yeah,
714
00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.539
I am, to be honest, this in my body is
715
00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:01.220
never been in this, it's not a state, but in
716
00:32:01.259 --> 00:32:05.180
terms of this type of shape before, obviously put on weight,
717
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.430
stretchy skin, different marks. And I've learned to embrace it,
718
00:32:08.450 --> 00:32:10.130
to be honest. At first I was a bit frustrated
719
00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:11.269
and I was like, I want to get back to
720
00:32:11.289 --> 00:32:14.710
being fit and getting out running, but having a C-section,
721
00:32:14.890 --> 00:32:16.269
that's obviously taking a little bit longer.
722
00:32:16.900 --> 00:32:19.000
Oh my God, so you did, who wants to be
723
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.400
in there after a six, that's a, after a six.
724
00:32:22.509 --> 00:32:24.329
You just sit in a chair, don't you? Let's be honest.
725
00:32:25.009 --> 00:32:27.210
You need, I mean, that's a men's song.
726
00:32:27.250 --> 00:32:28.789
I'm not going to lie as well. I just enjoy,
727
00:32:28.809 --> 00:32:30.190
I quite wanted to go and just see what I
728
00:32:30.190 --> 00:32:31.829
looked like with a face full of makeup and hair
729
00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:33.250
professionally done.
730
00:32:33.470 --> 00:32:35.029
Locked down here, just get out of lockdown.
731
00:32:39.829 --> 00:32:43.170
When you were playing hockey and stuff, was there, people
732
00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:46.210
that went away and had babies and then came back
733
00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:49.589
and how difficult was it for them? Like, is it
734
00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:51.890
a tough thing to do or do most people wait
735
00:32:51.930 --> 00:32:54.339
until their kind of sporting career is over? Because I
736
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.559
know like Serena Williams went away and had a baby
737
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:57.940
and came back and stuff.
738
00:32:58.500 --> 00:32:58.900
You know what?
739
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.519
I look at the likes of Serena, Jess Ennis. There's
740
00:33:01.539 --> 00:33:03.680
been a few of the Hockey Kiwi girls who have
741
00:33:03.700 --> 00:33:06.190
done that, some of the Aussies. And I remember in
742
00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:08.130
my career being like, actually, I think I could do that.
743
00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:10.029
I'd probably maybe have like a year and a half out,
744
00:33:10.069 --> 00:33:12.230
have a baby, get back training and maybe make it
745
00:33:12.269 --> 00:33:16.390
back for an Olympics. But now I've gone through it.
746
00:33:16.890 --> 00:33:20.819
I am just like unbelievable. Like how they managed to
747
00:33:20.859 --> 00:33:23.539
do that in such a short turnaround because of what
748
00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:26.640
your body goes through. Because obviously pregnancy is tough in itself.
749
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.240
And then you've got the postpartum, which again is even
750
00:33:31.299 --> 00:33:36.019
tougher because physically you have either pushed out this through
751
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.369
the eye of a needle, which I can only presume,
752
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.309
or you've had like a C-section, which has basically been
753
00:33:40.329 --> 00:33:43.589
cut in half. But I think, I mean, I couldn't
754
00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:46.910
think of, I mean, if I had to and someone said,
755
00:33:47.329 --> 00:33:49.309
you have to do it, Sam, I'd obviously find a way,
756
00:33:49.450 --> 00:33:53.019
but I couldn't do it. I mean, I just, at
757
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.619
this moment, I just think that is a job and
758
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.440
a half. Like I'm just looking forward to getting back
759
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.619
on the road, going for a jog and back to
760
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:00.200
my club hockey.
761
00:34:00.460 --> 00:34:00.960
Yeah.
762
00:34:01.019 --> 00:34:01.940
Full respect to them.
763
00:34:02.710 --> 00:34:04.450
So do you still play hockey as a hobby then?
764
00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:06.670
Yeah, a bit of club hockey. A bit of club hockey.
765
00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:10.739
Are you much better than everyone else though? Is it
766
00:34:10.780 --> 00:34:14.460
like everyone's trying to two-foot you and tackle you and
767
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.380
you're running rings random or is it a high level?
768
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.000
I don't know how to answer that without sounding like
769
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.400
an absolute jobsworth.
770
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.719
You're the best one. You've got to be. I mean,
771
00:34:24.739 --> 00:34:29.389
how good's this fucking club if the Olympian is like mid-level?
772
00:34:30.309 --> 00:34:33.849
No, it depends. It depends because the problem is the
773
00:34:33.889 --> 00:34:36.489
GB team, obviously, you know, you went down to Bisham.
774
00:34:36.849 --> 00:34:38.750
They're all based down there full time. So when I
775
00:34:38.789 --> 00:34:40.449
was there, you have to play for a club within
776
00:34:40.510 --> 00:34:42.420
that area because you don't want to be travelling up
777
00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:45.440
to Manchester where you can't really, can you, to go training.
778
00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:49.820
So our club, Bowdoin, we don't have any GB players
779
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.699
or anything like that because it's too far away from
780
00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:53.480
the centre programme.
781
00:34:53.739 --> 00:34:55.929
So down south, there's a sort of a higher level
782
00:34:55.969 --> 00:34:58.780
because they need to be near the GB team. Exactly.
783
00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:02.579
So all the clubs, you've got East Grinstead, Surbiton, places
784
00:35:02.619 --> 00:35:07.300
like that, Wimbledon, are littered with international players. So last season,
785
00:35:07.469 --> 00:35:11.110
before COVID, Bowdoin got relegated because you don't stand a
786
00:35:11.130 --> 00:35:13.969
chance because they've got the starting line-up of the GB
787
00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:17.110
team and then they've got GB team, Team B on
788
00:35:17.269 --> 00:35:18.550
the other club team.
789
00:35:18.929 --> 00:35:22.179
Yeah. So you're like JJ Acotra at Bolton.
790
00:35:22.659 --> 00:35:25.260
JJ Acotra.
791
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.849
What a reference to go for as your first. thought
792
00:35:27.869 --> 00:35:30.280
you'd appreciate it I know Sam's a football fan um
793
00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:32.500
Sam do you think you're gonna how do you feel
794
00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:34.800
if your daughter was not interested in sport whatsoever would
795
00:35:34.820 --> 00:35:37.159
it be a relief because you've done that with your
796
00:35:37.539 --> 00:35:39.800
youth or would you be just disappointed.
797
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:42.760
Um without sounding harsh and again she can do whatever
798
00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:44.599
she wants to do I'll back her I would be
799
00:35:44.619 --> 00:35:46.510
a little bit gutted if she didn't do sport just
800
00:35:46.530 --> 00:35:49.190
because it's done so much for me in terms of
801
00:35:49.210 --> 00:35:51.789
like my mates traveling the world and I think sports
802
00:35:51.829 --> 00:35:55.050
just good for anyone and everything both physically and mentally
803
00:35:55.090 --> 00:35:57.159
but I can't wait to just stand on the sideline
804
00:35:57.179 --> 00:36:00.380
and watch my daughter play some kind of sport. But
805
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.639
I don't think I will be the type of parent
806
00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:06.280
who's up and down the sideline giving it beans, shouting this,
807
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.380
shouting that. I'll probably take a step back and just
808
00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:10.239
take it all in.
809
00:36:10.969 --> 00:36:16.190
I don't think that's true, Sam. I think I know
810
00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:18.570
you well enough with the stuff we've done, but I
811
00:36:18.829 --> 00:36:20.969
think you might be that person.
812
00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.570
What is that? The one who's like up and down,
813
00:36:24.610 --> 00:36:25.159
shout for the record.
814
00:36:25.179 --> 00:36:28.440
The one who's really enthusiastic. Oh, sorry, I've got a
815
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.380
child that's broken in. Daddy's going to be two minutes, okay?
816
00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:36.500
I'm just doing some work. I'm talking to Sam Quek
817
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:41.329
and Josh Whittaker. You go to mummy, and I'll give
818
00:36:41.349 --> 00:36:43.449
that to mummy, and then I'll be out in five minutes.
819
00:36:44.170 --> 00:36:44.969
Sorry about that, everyone.
820
00:36:44.989 --> 00:36:46.750
You're absolutely lying.
821
00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:49.869
Lou's going to have a disciplinary later, actually, because that
822
00:36:49.909 --> 00:36:52.210
is totally unacceptable. She knows I'm down here. We'll have
823
00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:54.400
a little chat about that at the family meeting.
824
00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:56.320
Daddy, why did you lock me outside?
825
00:36:56.739 --> 00:36:58.280
Yeah, just go on the slide on your own again
826
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:03.050
in a garden alone. Come on. No, I just say
827
00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:05.449
to them, I think you're very competitive. Even just the
828
00:37:05.469 --> 00:37:06.820
way you said, I'll back her. And I don't know
829
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.539
if it's because it is your accent, but it sounded
830
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.440
like you really would back her. But I think, and
831
00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:14.420
personally for me as well, I'll have to work hard
832
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.000
not to get too involved from the sidelines when they're older,
833
00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:18.840
just because I can't help it. I'm gobby.
834
00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:22.880
Are you that guy who's stood behind the coach? No,
835
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.400
I'm not that person. I'm not that person.
836
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.440
You don't see yourself as a tactician, do you? No,
837
00:37:28.460 --> 00:37:30.840
I'm not. I'm a Sammy Lee. Do you know what
838
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:37.309
I mean? Oh, yeah. Not everything's Bolton related, Rob. No,
839
00:37:37.389 --> 00:37:37.750
I think.
840
00:37:37.889 --> 00:37:39.309
Tell me, Sam, have you got to go to the
841
00:37:39.329 --> 00:37:41.429
Reebok Stadium since you've had a baby or not?
842
00:37:41.489 --> 00:37:46.269
Because Rob really wants to know. Sorry, there's a lot
843
00:37:46.289 --> 00:37:49.269
of Bolton stuff. No, I just think I just get
844
00:37:49.349 --> 00:37:52.510
into stuff. I'm very enthusiastic. And if my daughter scored,
845
00:37:52.630 --> 00:37:55.219
I'd lose my mind with excitement. You know, it's hard
846
00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:56.440
not to, isn't it? But I don't think I'll be
847
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.420
shouting what to do. I think Lou's a little bit,
848
00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:01.320
even a bit more like a, she's a bit more like,
849
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.940
I think would be more protective on the sidelines and
850
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:05.980
aggressive than I would be.
851
00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:08.809
What was your experience of playing sport as a child?
852
00:38:08.869 --> 00:38:11.010
What were your parents like on the sidelines?
853
00:38:11.610 --> 00:38:13.050
Well, I was going to say, I think maybe I'm
854
00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:14.730
saying that because my dad, I know he won't mind
855
00:38:14.869 --> 00:38:16.929
saying it because I put it in my book. He
856
00:38:16.989 --> 00:38:18.889
was the parent who used to go up the side
857
00:38:18.909 --> 00:38:21.159
of the sideline and shout at me, not in an
858
00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:24.420
aggressive way, but was constantly shouting at me. and my
859
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.559
mum would follow him up the pitch and be like, shh, Albert, shh,
860
00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:30.239
stop you being, you're about in too much. And I
861
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.579
remember looking up throughout the hockey game, and my dad
862
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:34.760
would start on one sideline, and my mum, and they'd
863
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.159
slowly both keep just doing laps of the pitch.
864
00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:38.860
Oh, God.
865
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.780
Dad would walk away, and my mum would catch him up,
866
00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:42.659
but dad would walk away and catch him up. But
867
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.480
I played lacrosse once over in Liverpool, and I remember
868
00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:49.619
being so exhausted. I just ran, ran, ran, and I
869
00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:51.920
collapsed down to the floor. Obviously still conscious, but my
870
00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:54.460
legs were just knackered. And my dad was like, Sam,
871
00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:57.179
get up. You're embarrassing yourself.
872
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.860
Get up.
873
00:39:00.809 --> 00:39:03.429
And my mum was like, Albert, Samantha, are you okay?
874
00:39:03.449 --> 00:39:05.349
And I was absolutely fine. But I think that's where
875
00:39:05.409 --> 00:39:07.309
I get my kind of like, don't roll over and die.
876
00:39:07.329 --> 00:39:09.670
You've still got more in the tank type of attitude.
877
00:39:09.710 --> 00:39:10.550
Yeah.
878
00:39:10.809 --> 00:39:13.110
And I remember as well, my brother used to play
879
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.900
in golf or it was a team called We're All Chinese.
880
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.719
Yeah. We're all Chinese. We're all or we're all Chinese?
881
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:21.800
We're all to the plate.
882
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:29.650
We're all. We're all. What's the team name that is?
883
00:39:29.739 --> 00:39:35.079
We're all Chinese. We're all Chinese. What's your team name?
884
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.090
We're all Chinese. That's all I've got. Sorry. We're all Chinese. Okay.
885
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:40.469
I prefer that one, actually.
886
00:39:42.889 --> 00:39:48.820
So your brother played for We're All Chinese? Yeah. Were
887
00:39:48.860 --> 00:39:49.659
they all Chinese?
888
00:39:51.019 --> 00:39:53.539
They all were, apart from one, but obviously we're half,
889
00:39:53.579 --> 00:39:56.320
so we still count. But anyone was welcome, even though
890
00:39:56.380 --> 00:39:56.820
it was called.
891
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.179
So you were called, we're all Chinese, and you essentially,
892
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.880
the team were nearly all Chinese as well. Yeah. And
893
00:40:01.900 --> 00:40:03.989
that's the first time anyone's mentioned that.
894
00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:07.210
We're all Chinese. The strapline should have been, we're all Chinese.
895
00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:11.130
Apart from one. We're all Chinese. Who was the one?
896
00:40:12.230 --> 00:40:13.789
I think it was like the centre mid guy, the
897
00:40:13.809 --> 00:40:14.289
tall one.
898
00:40:14.329 --> 00:40:23.860
The tall one. Surely the goalie. Surely the goalie.
899
00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:28.139
No, my brother was the goalie. But anyway, he was
900
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.079
playing in goal. And my dad was literally stood next
901
00:40:31.099 --> 00:40:33.860
to the goalpost and just giving it every time the ball.
902
00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:34.840
Michael, run out.
903
00:40:34.969 --> 00:40:37.530
Michael, dive left. And in the end, me and my brother,
904
00:40:37.670 --> 00:40:40.230
only my twin brother. Sorry, it was my older brother
905
00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:41.809
who was in goal. Me and my twin brother, Sean,
906
00:40:41.849 --> 00:40:43.730
used to just go and watch purely just to go
907
00:40:43.769 --> 00:40:44.570
and watch my dad.
908
00:40:45.809 --> 00:40:46.130
Really?
909
00:40:46.269 --> 00:40:49.039
And next to my older brother, just giving him directions.
910
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.030
But yeah, it was good. Good quality.
911
00:40:51.050 --> 00:40:54.460
So was your dad into hockey? Because your whole family's playing.
912
00:40:55.739 --> 00:40:56.900
How did you all get into hockey?
913
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.500
I got into hockey through school. And I was playing
914
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.539
football at the time. So I was more football. I
915
00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:05.320
was always football. Played for Tramier girls. Played in the
916
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.269
boys' teams when I was younger. But I had to
917
00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:10.690
choose between hockey and football when I was 17. And
918
00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:11.349
I chose hockey.
919
00:41:12.909 --> 00:41:17.349
Would you take your daughter being an Olympic gold medalist
920
00:41:17.389 --> 00:41:18.550
in hockey, but she's.
921
00:41:18.389 --> 00:41:20.519
An Everton fan? Oh, my.
922
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.519
That's not going to happen, though. She's already got a
923
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:29.519
little toolkit. I mean, you say that, my sisters in Everton.
924
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.780
That wasn't the question.
925
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.679
So it wouldn't be too dissimilar to how some of
926
00:41:33.699 --> 00:41:35.469
the things are at the moment. But, yeah, I would.
927
00:41:35.739 --> 00:41:37.010
I would. You'd take the gold?
928
00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:41.010
I'd let her have a gold medal. Yeah. You could
929
00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:42.929
have some success, haven't you? I mean, if you're an
930
00:41:42.949 --> 00:41:43.570
Everton fan.
931
00:41:44.769 --> 00:41:47.389
At least she can enjoy her personal success.
932
00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:50.519
Yeah, yeah. And so how's it been having the baby
933
00:41:50.539 --> 00:41:53.019
in lockdown, though? Was Tom allowed to be there at
934
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.719
the birth or the scans or the rules? Because two
935
00:41:55.780 --> 00:41:59.010
months ago, it's got better now. This is April we're
936
00:41:59.050 --> 00:42:00.889
recording this. But, you know, at the start of the year,
937
00:42:00.909 --> 00:42:03.070
it was pretty bleak, wasn't it, in hospitals and stuff
938
00:42:03.110 --> 00:42:05.250
like that. So how was that? Was that stressful?
939
00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:08.510
Yeah, the first 12-week scan, he wasn't allowed in. So
940
00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:13.489
I booked a private scan five days before so we
941
00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:15.769
could both be there together at the same time, you know, to, like,
942
00:42:15.789 --> 00:42:18.230
see a heartbeat and whatnot. And obviously, I had a
943
00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:19.510
miscarriage in the January.
944
00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:22.130
Oh, I didn't know that. I'm sorry.
945
00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:24.829
So I would just think, God forbid, touch wood, if
946
00:42:25.130 --> 00:42:27.320
it was bad news. I can't imagine some people going
947
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.159
in and experiencing that on their own. So I just
948
00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:32.219
feel for so many people who had to go through
949
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.019
it on their own if it was that type of news.
950
00:42:34.579 --> 00:42:36.699
But yeah, in the hospital, I had to go on
951
00:42:36.739 --> 00:42:39.409
my own for the 12-week scan. And then by 20 weeks,
952
00:42:39.630 --> 00:42:41.469
he was allowed to come in if he had a
953
00:42:41.590 --> 00:42:43.909
negative COVID test within 24 hours.
954
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:46.579
Oh, OK, cool. So there was a way for him
955
00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:48.519
to come in and stuff. But yeah, that's all that.
956
00:42:48.539 --> 00:42:51.070
You just don't need it. And especially with like when
957
00:42:51.090 --> 00:42:52.769
you've got the baby, you want everyone to come around
958
00:42:52.829 --> 00:42:54.889
and see it and say hello and stuff. It's horrible,
959
00:42:54.949 --> 00:42:57.230
isn't it? Having to, you know, not be able to
960
00:42:57.309 --> 00:42:59.309
see all your friends and family. Yeah, it was rubbish.
961
00:42:59.349 --> 00:43:02.050
And especially at the hospital. So Tom was allowed in.
962
00:43:02.130 --> 00:43:03.949
But once you're in, that's it. You're not allowed to
963
00:43:03.989 --> 00:43:08.119
go back out. And then you just feel harsh on
964
00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:10.239
your parents or your brothers and sisters, you know, who
965
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:11.119
aren't able to see them.
966
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:14.639
Albert's out there screaming from the street, going, come on,
967
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.860
you've got another push in you.
968
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:17.679
Keep going, Sam.
969
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:23.110
Come on. With the full Wirral Chinese squad shouting, come on, Sam.
970
00:43:23.530 --> 00:43:27.130
Call that a cesarean. That is not a cesarean.
971
00:43:27.170 --> 00:43:28.880
With the centre mid guy, the only one who can
972
00:43:28.909 --> 00:43:29.679
see through the window.
973
00:43:29.699 --> 00:43:34.460
He's doing all right, guys. She's doing fine. She's fine
974
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:39.219
up there. Are they still going, we're all Chinese? I
975
00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:41.059
can't move on from we're all Chinese.
976
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.139
Ask your next question while I Google we're all Chinese.
977
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.659
No, no, I'm setting.
978
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.829
One back up. So if you've got, I was going
979
00:43:48.849 --> 00:43:50.889
to ask you this though, right, because I found it
980
00:43:51.110 --> 00:43:53.550
quite stressful when loads of people come into the house.
981
00:43:53.570 --> 00:43:55.110
Sorry, Rob, I'm going to have to interrupt to say
982
00:43:55.150 --> 00:43:57.210
the first thing when you Google the words we're all
983
00:43:57.250 --> 00:44:00.489
Chinese hockey is Sam Quek's Wikipedia page.
984
00:44:00.530 --> 00:44:04.159
Is it actually? Is it? She's not lying, it's true.
985
00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:04.940
Do you like it?
986
00:44:05.969 --> 00:44:09.250
Um, no, I was like, I found it quite stressful when, um,
987
00:44:09.670 --> 00:44:11.329
we had loads of people coming and going to the
988
00:44:11.349 --> 00:44:13.389
baby and stuff because, you know, you get into a schedule,
989
00:44:13.409 --> 00:44:15.110
you're all chilled and then people come, you can make
990
00:44:15.190 --> 00:44:17.179
tea and stuff like that. Do you feel like you
991
00:44:17.219 --> 00:44:18.940
missed out or was it actually quite nice to have
992
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:20.500
a bit of calm in the house? Obviously you had
993
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.420
your support bubbles, I imagine, and stuff like, or did you,
994
00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:24.289
did you really miss it?
995
00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:27.579
Um, I, to be honest, the first week, I think
996
00:44:28.500 --> 00:44:32.219
it was probably a blessing in disguise. Um, because I
997
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.530
didn't get out of my house coat, didn't do my hair.
998
00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:37.070
You don't really brush your teeth.
999
00:44:37.250 --> 00:44:39.090
Housecoat's dressing gown, isn't it, for Southerners?
1000
00:44:39.659 --> 00:44:41.000
Oh, sorry. Yes, housecoat.
1001
00:44:41.099 --> 00:44:42.860
Yeah, no, just a bit. I only found out last
1002
00:44:42.900 --> 00:44:47.260
week that housecoat, in Liverpool, a dressing gown's a housecoat. Yeah.
1003
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:47.980
Did you know that, Josh?
1004
00:44:48.019 --> 00:44:48.079
No.
1005
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.219
No, I didn't know that. It's very poncy in it,
1006
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.039
dressing gown.
1007
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:52.739
What did I say?
1008
00:44:52.780 --> 00:44:56.190
Housecoat. Housecoat. Yeah, but the housecoat sounds insane, doesn't it?
1009
00:44:56.429 --> 00:44:56.909
Housecoat.
1010
00:44:56.929 --> 00:44:58.510
So you call it a housecoat? Yeah.
1011
00:44:58.849 --> 00:45:00.690
And also, do you call lunch dinner or dinner?
1012
00:45:02.090 --> 00:45:02.590
Lunch, dinner.
1013
00:45:02.829 --> 00:45:03.590
Yeah, so we call.
1014
00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:07.489
Well, I don't know which one's dinner. I call the middle.
1015
00:45:07.530 --> 00:45:10.280
He's still on supper. No, I'm not still on supper.
1016
00:45:10.300 --> 00:45:17.739
How dare you? How dare! Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Dinner, yeah. Breakfast, lunch, dinner.
1017
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.059
Yeah, but why are dinner ladies called dinner ladies when
1018
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:20.559
it's at lunch?
1019
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:22.619
So you have breakfast, dinner, tea?
1020
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:23.059
Yeah.
1021
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.619
I mean, I get your point, actually. When do you
1022
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:26.780
wear a dinner jacket and where?
1023
00:45:27.460 --> 00:45:29.400
To an evening do.
1024
00:45:31.409 --> 00:45:35.369
Yeah. And then what do you eat on your lunch break?
1025
00:45:35.610 --> 00:45:37.710
You're having dinner or are you having lunch on lunch break?
1026
00:45:37.750 --> 00:45:39.750
To be fair, I do flip in between.
1027
00:45:40.269 --> 00:45:43.510
Let's not get bogged down in a North-South divide. The
1028
00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:45.489
first week was a blessing. No one came around. That's
1029
00:45:45.510 --> 00:45:47.469
where we were at before we got bogged down in
1030
00:45:47.510 --> 00:45:49.010
house coats.
1031
00:45:49.030 --> 00:45:52.300
Yeah, blessing in disguise. Purely because, like you say, the
1032
00:45:52.340 --> 00:45:54.480
days blur into the nights and you're trying to just
1033
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.289
have a good reading and doing whatever. And then it's
1034
00:45:57.329 --> 00:45:59.369
kind of like if I had visitors, I would have
1035
00:45:59.389 --> 00:46:01.469
felt like obliged to put my eyebrows on, get out
1036
00:46:01.510 --> 00:46:03.389
of my house coat, you know, make a cup of
1037
00:46:03.409 --> 00:46:05.670
tea and stuff like that. Like I say, it was
1038
00:46:05.690 --> 00:46:07.030
actually quite nice. And then it was just me and
1039
00:46:07.070 --> 00:46:08.949
Tom kind of knuckling down, trying to figure everything out.
1040
00:46:09.429 --> 00:46:11.320
But we did have parents around.
1041
00:46:11.340 --> 00:46:14.559
Yeah, because you're allowed like if you've got a child
1042
00:46:14.619 --> 00:46:16.719
under one, you're allowed to be part of a support bubble,
1043
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:17.980
aren't you? That's really good.
1044
00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:20.019
Tom's mum's in our bubble anyway, because she lives on
1045
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.039
her own. So actually it worked out all right. So
1046
00:46:23.300 --> 00:46:25.940
my mum and dad were. the support bubble but Tom's
1047
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:27.159
mum was already in our bubble.
1048
00:46:27.179 --> 00:46:29.980
I think that like the worst is when you have
1049
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.679
people that come round for too long in the in
1050
00:46:33.699 --> 00:46:36.719
the first few weeks of the baby because it's fine
1051
00:46:36.739 --> 00:46:38.440
when they're there but the moment they go and you've
1052
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.159
missed out on your chance to have a nap or
1053
00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:42.199
you've missed out on your chance to kind of relax
1054
00:46:42.739 --> 00:46:44.550
and then you head into the night tired I.
1055
00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:47.469
Just think it's so tough the worst is they've been
1056
00:46:47.510 --> 00:46:49.889
round for an hour and then you go oh trying
1057
00:46:49.909 --> 00:46:50.829
to get rid of them I'm just going to go
1058
00:46:50.849 --> 00:46:52.889
and put the baby down for a nap and they're
1059
00:46:52.909 --> 00:46:55.090
still there while you're doing that and then you come
1060
00:46:55.110 --> 00:46:56.489
down and have a nap and they go oh another
1061
00:46:56.530 --> 00:46:58.849
cup of tea and i'm like don't you fucking waste
1062
00:46:58.889 --> 00:47:02.550
my nap time i'm either sleeping or watching the telly
1063
00:47:02.670 --> 00:47:04.250
or having a bath don't i don't want to talk
1064
00:47:04.269 --> 00:47:07.789
to you about shit the internet's better in your conversation that's.
1065
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.679
A good bit of advice so the advice there moral
1066
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.119
of the story is when you go to put the
1067
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.239
baby to bed don't come back down.
1068
00:47:13.219 --> 00:47:15.500
Don't come back down yes no i've got another one
1069
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.000
right and it's called fuck coffee cups right fuck coffee
1070
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.309
cups and they're tight not they're It's a little cup
1071
00:47:22.329 --> 00:47:24.010
they do in Ikea, but they're bigger than like an
1072
00:47:24.030 --> 00:47:28.179
espresso cup. So it's not weirdly small, but they're the smallest,
1073
00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:31.420
the smallest cup or mug you can find before someone
1074
00:47:31.500 --> 00:47:33.820
gets inquisitive. And you do a cup of tea in there,
1075
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.480
but quite low level. And they'll drink, don't boil the
1076
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.739
kettle fully. So it's a bit cooler. And they will
1077
00:47:39.780 --> 00:47:42.230
have that tea drunk in about five minutes. Do you
1078
00:47:42.250 --> 00:47:45.210
know what you could do, Rob? How you could market these? Yeah.
1079
00:47:45.250 --> 00:47:47.400
You know, in the bottom of the cup, you could
1080
00:47:47.420 --> 00:47:51.550
have the words fuck off written. So when they finish
1081
00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:53.920
their tea... They get the message straight away.
1082
00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:56.800
Should we do some Fuck Coffee Cup merch? Yeah, I
1083
00:47:56.820 --> 00:47:58.949
think we should. And this is for new mums and
1084
00:47:58.969 --> 00:48:01.170
dads that you make it to someone and you want
1085
00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:03.469
them to leave so you can have a rest. Would
1086
00:48:03.489 --> 00:48:05.710
that be something you'd be interested in buying, Sam? Would
1087
00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:07.010
that have helped?
1088
00:48:07.010 --> 00:48:09.130
100%. And some sort of sign on the door.
1089
00:48:09.429 --> 00:48:11.750
Yeah, on the door. Not welcome.
1090
00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:13.489
Yeah, just some sort of thing that you can slide
1091
00:48:13.530 --> 00:48:15.699
from left to right depending on where you're at, where
1092
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.239
the baby's at, and if you're in the mood.
1093
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.929
That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yes,
1094
00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:21.880
that is a good idea, isn't it? Just like, come
1095
00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:25.000
back later, not today. Yes, please, I'm going mental. And
1096
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.840
Tom keeps microwaving milk. I mean, that's quite niche. That
1097
00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:31.739
would be more specific bespoke for you, Sam.
1098
00:48:32.139 --> 00:48:34.019
I think so. Although we haven't got a doorbell, which
1099
00:48:34.059 --> 00:48:37.130
has been quite a nice little treat.
1100
00:48:37.650 --> 00:48:40.750
Well, I still remember. Now it doesn't matter how important
1101
00:48:40.769 --> 00:48:43.070
it was when you ordered a takeaway to put in
1102
00:48:43.110 --> 00:48:46.590
the instructions, not quietly, we've got a baby sleeping. That's
1103
00:48:46.630 --> 00:48:49.849
still on my Deliveroo thing. Did you ever do that, Josh?
1104
00:48:50.070 --> 00:48:50.409
Yeah.
1105
00:48:50.570 --> 00:48:52.929
No, I used to watch the person come and then
1106
00:48:53.469 --> 00:48:55.780
I'd be stood on the... Sorry, that was a very
1107
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:56.500
strange phrase.
1108
00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:00.079
It's a weird delivery, what you ordered.
1109
00:49:01.420 --> 00:49:04.380
My order was that good that the moment they smell it,
1110
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:09.869
the order... Oh, my God, this has gone disastrously. I'd
1111
00:49:09.909 --> 00:49:11.690
say the last 30 seconds have been the worst of
1112
00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:22.000
my career. So you say they were called We're All Chinese, Sam. Anyway,
1113
00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:26.360
so I would watch the Deliveroo stroke Uber Eats or
1114
00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:29.599
whatever app so that I could see where they were
1115
00:49:29.699 --> 00:49:30.719
so I'd always meet.
1116
00:49:30.579 --> 00:49:31.400
Them on the doorstep.
1117
00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:32.440
Oh, that's a good plan.
1118
00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:34.239
But I do that anyway. I did that before having
1119
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:34.719
a baby.
1120
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:35.380
Did you?
1121
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.139
Just because I was so excited waiting for it to arrive.
1122
00:49:40.309 --> 00:49:44.230
I have once watched the little image of a motorbike
1123
00:49:44.389 --> 00:49:47.440
go all around my local area, thinking, why has he
1124
00:49:47.460 --> 00:49:50.260
done a left there? What kind of stupid sat-nav has
1125
00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:50.719
he got?
1126
00:49:51.420 --> 00:49:56.719
I watched a guy go very slowly up a one-way
1127
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:57.769
road the.
1128
00:49:57.610 --> 00:50:00.690
Wrong way on the map. And he was going so slowly.
1129
00:50:01.570 --> 00:50:04.230
And then he got it, and I just realised he
1130
00:50:04.250 --> 00:50:05.070
was pushing his bike.
1131
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.519
He'd obviously got off his bike and he was walking
1132
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.199
the whole way so that he could go against the traffic.
1133
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:12.460
That's commitment.
1134
00:50:12.699 --> 00:50:16.320
That's commitment. That is commitment to a call. Sam, we've
1135
00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:18.340
got one last question before we go. It's been brilliant.
1136
00:50:18.380 --> 00:50:20.679
Thank you so much, especially how new your baby is.
1137
00:50:20.739 --> 00:50:23.039
Is it a nap at the moment or is.
1138
00:50:22.949 --> 00:50:23.610
The baby awake?
1139
00:50:24.469 --> 00:50:26.570
I don't know. I did send her up with a
1140
00:50:26.610 --> 00:50:28.809
bottle to Tom. So I think it was mid-nap.
1141
00:50:28.829 --> 00:50:31.690
You don't want to have stolen your beautiful nap time.
1142
00:50:32.230 --> 00:50:34.050
We'll wrap it up with one last question. This question
1143
00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:36.110
we like to ask all our guests is if there's
1144
00:50:36.210 --> 00:50:38.780
one thing that their partner does parenting wise, it really
1145
00:50:38.820 --> 00:50:41.519
annoys you, but you haven't brought it up because it
1146
00:50:41.539 --> 00:50:44.159
would just start an argument and it's wrangling. And if
1147
00:50:44.179 --> 00:50:45.960
they listened back to this, they would go, yeah, that
1148
00:50:46.019 --> 00:50:48.199
is a fair point. I'll stop doing that. Is there
1149
00:50:48.219 --> 00:50:51.920
anything that's annoying you at the moment, Sam, that Tom's
1150
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:52.460
doing maybe?
1151
00:50:52.750 --> 00:50:56.849
How long you got? No, bless him.
1152
00:50:57.010 --> 00:51:00.150
It's not microwave-based. It can't be microwave-based. It can't be
1153
00:51:00.170 --> 00:51:01.780
microwave milk. It can't be that. Is there anything, or
1154
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.000
is it all, at the moment, is it all a
1155
00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:05.400
pretty sort of steady ship? It is.
1156
00:51:05.739 --> 00:51:07.440
I'm really lucky to say it is a pretty steady ship.
1157
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:11.920
There's one thing, which isn't like massively bugging me, but.
1158
00:51:12.380 --> 00:51:13.719
For someone who said it was a steady ship, you've
1159
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.170
got into one very quickly, Sam, which I'm very in
1160
00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:16.619
favour of.
1161
00:51:16.630 --> 00:51:18.389
I mean, I love a bit of Call of Duty.
1162
00:51:18.510 --> 00:51:20.250
I got into it during the first lockdown.
1163
00:51:20.269 --> 00:51:21.130
Oh, it's great, isn't it?
1164
00:51:21.150 --> 00:51:21.469
Love it.
1165
00:51:21.849 --> 00:51:21.969
Yep.
1166
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.980
Especially resurgent trios love a bit of that anyway Tom
1167
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.110
when he goes on it with the boys and obviously
1168
00:51:28.130 --> 00:51:30.650
because they've got the headsets on he's next door on
1169
00:51:30.690 --> 00:51:34.130
the TV they don't realise how loud they are and
1170
00:51:34.150 --> 00:51:36.329
when you're just getting a baby to sleep and they're
1171
00:51:36.349 --> 00:51:38.409
getting all excited they're getting in the final circle and
1172
00:51:38.429 --> 00:51:40.789
there's a guy on the roof oh my goodness the
1173
00:51:40.849 --> 00:51:44.679
volume level just goes from like normal talk to excited
1174
00:51:44.739 --> 00:51:47.219
to like full on I'm in a club I need
1175
00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:50.349
to shout over the loud music type of level So,
1176
00:51:50.530 --> 00:51:52.300
darling Tom, if you're listening to this.
1177
00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:57.059
Honestly, though, I got told off for that. Right, so
1178
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:58.940
I was playing it once and I left the window
1179
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:00.909
open because it was a hot summer's evening. I put
1180
00:52:00.929 --> 00:52:03.110
my headphones on and I was screaming. Lou ran upstairs
1181
00:52:03.130 --> 00:52:05.550
and said, what is going on? You are making all
1182
00:52:05.570 --> 00:52:09.369
the dogs in the street bark. Because you're like, it's
1183
00:52:09.409 --> 00:52:11.150
on the roof, it's like a brick, fuck it. And
1184
00:52:11.210 --> 00:52:13.550
it's really emotional. But also, it's not very good for
1185
00:52:13.570 --> 00:52:15.949
a sleeping baby to hear, there's someone on the roof,
1186
00:52:16.289 --> 00:52:20.820
shoot them. Quick, where's your gas mask? Fucking hell. And
1187
00:52:20.860 --> 00:52:23.639
it is brutal swearing, isn't it, Sam? It is, it is. Sam,
1188
00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:25.280
this has been amazing. Thank you so much. It's been
1189
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.159
an absolute pleasure. Thanks so much, Sam.
1190
00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:28.699
Thanks, guys.
1191
00:52:30.739 --> 00:52:31.619
Rob? Yeah?
1192
00:52:31.940 --> 00:52:36.260
We're All Chinese might be the most I've laughed.
1193
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:41.139
Yeah. It's when Sam was going, yeah, they mostly were
1194
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.280
all Chinese. The Wirral. The thing is because Wirral, I've
1195
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.960
only ever heard it be called The Wirral. Yeah. Really?
1196
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It's never called Wirral. And I forgot that Wirral sounds
1197
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like Wirral. Yeah, it just got a bit too much.
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And I feel like if Sam wasn't there, that could
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have been a potential cancellation for us two. But I
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feel like she led the Chinese. We were just there
1201
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to enjoy it.
1202
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I don't think we should bring it up in other
1203
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episodes where it's just me and you.
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Yeah, I think we should probably leave it alone. Yes, yes.
1205
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That was funny, though. It made me laugh. And what
1206
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a fucking machine. C-section, then Jeremy Clarkson. Unbelievable.
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What is that? I didn't want to say this to Sam,
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but she could have easily got booked on it a
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couple of months down the line.
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It's not going anywhere. Do you know what, though? I
1211
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think that's a sort of like... She's so... I've met
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Sam Lowe this time and she's so sort of focused
1213
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and dedicated. And if she's agreed to do something, she's like, yeah,
1214
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I'm doing it. And I'm not going to let that
1215
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stop me. That sort of, it's that classic sports star
1216
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mentality where you have to, whatever you said you're going
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to do, you're going to do and you don't care.
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about the circumstances. And I think that's what makes people,
1219
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you know, a club hockey player and then an Olympic
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level hockey player. They have that dedication. You know what
1221
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I mean? Because I've met a number of sports people
1222
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that just, it's like the stuff they do, that dedication
1223
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is insane. And then even after retirement, they still have
1224
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that part of their personality, you know? Yeah.
1225
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They are a different breed sports people, aren't they? Just
1226
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when you go on, when you go on League of
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Their Own and you do anything with a sports person,
1228
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they're so competitive. Or you have a sports person on
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a panel show. And they actually care if they win.
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I know, it's meant, I did it once where I
1231
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fell off a netting on a league of their own
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and Jamie read and I went, oh, come on, Becky,
1233
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get on with it. In the morning, it'll get in
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your head all about this. And I went, Jamie, I've
1235
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already forgotten. I couldn't give a fuck about being beaten
1236
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by Helen Skelton on jump rope. Call me a pussy.
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I don't care.
1238
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What are we thinking about in the morning, Jamie? The
1239
00:54:39.349 --> 00:54:41.909
joke I did about Joe Hart that didn't go to anything.
1240
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That's what I'll be thinking about. exactly but they're just
1241
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.239
built athletes are built different you just can't so for
1242
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her i think that's just i'm okay i can do
1243
00:54:50.019 --> 00:54:51.800
this and it's you know i've said i'm gonna do
1244
00:54:51.820 --> 00:54:53.449
it but yeah good on her but yeah she's brilliant
1245
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sam i love she's so um she's so confident and
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so like focus it's uh you can see that and
1247
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considering like you know and tom parry and sam quack
1248
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i know i've mentioned it in the episode they couldn't
1249
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be more different as people really could they i mean
1250
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like this and and you can sort of see it
1251
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in the parenting to a point of just like Sam
1252
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would be like, well, how can we make this more efficient?
1253
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Why don't we do this? And let's do it that.
1254
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And Tom would go, I've got to be Firmus. I've
1255
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got to be Orange. Let's bang on the dog father
1256
00:55:18.230 --> 00:55:22.349
like that. But whatever works, works. Do you know what
1257
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I mean? And Tom Parry couldn't have, I don't think
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Sam would have enjoyed that schedule. I don't think Tom
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Parry would enjoy Sam's schedule. So it's, that's what's so interesting.
1260
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I dispute that. I think Tom would enjoy Sam's schedule. Yeah. Oh,
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we've got to get Tom back on, actually. That's a
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good one to get back on. Put him on the list.
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Rob, I've got to go to Bloody Nursery and pick
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up my daughter.
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Okay, go and get her, mate, and I'll speak to
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you on Tuesday. See you later, guys. Bye.