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All right, guys, welcome back to the paradigm shift.
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After a little hiatus uh on vacation, apparently Jesse likes to travel the globe and leaves me sitting at home.
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One of us has to go to Las Vegas.
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True, this is true.
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I mean, it's it's necessary, right?
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It's I don't make the rules.
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Uh I am, of course, Big Rob back again with Jesse.
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What's happening, buddy?
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Hey man, I'm uh I'm I'm a little congested.
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It's gonna be a little bit nasally of an episode, as you mentioned.
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I have been uh a globe trotter over the last uh couple weeks between uh a couple big trips, and um yeah, I got the funk, man.
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I got the funk.
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I'm hoping to kick it in time for uh Halloween, so hopefully this episode will get that going, right?
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Who's got the funk?
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He's got the funk going in the back in the time machine.
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All right, so today we're gonna talk about following our Halloween theme.
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We're gonna talk about werewolf culture.
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It's gonna be another interesting one.
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Before we get into it, any initial thoughts?
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Thoughts on the werewolf.
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Um, you know, every good uh every good like mythic mythical creature usually has some sort of origin in reality somewhere, you know, whether it's like uh the chupacabra or it's um the skinwalker, right?
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You know, the skinwalker is like the mythical half man, half wolf.
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Even um at uh I don't know if you follow this, at uh Skinwalker Ranch, you know, they they had a uh they had a bone fragment that had a tooth mark in it, and it matched the dental structure of a dire wolf, which is like a massive wolf.
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So the the idea of the uh the the quote wolf man has been around for uh quite a while, you know.
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I think this is one of those ones that um in like the uh Native American, like the Indian cultures, you know, like that like they they believe in the wolf man.
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So um yeah, this this should be a good one.
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Yeah, I think we touched on in a previous Halloween-themed episode the origins of the Dracula character.
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Yeah, yeah, and again, based on a real guy, yeah.
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Uh Vlad the Impaler, not not a good guy, not a good dude.
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No, no, you didn't want to trick or treat at his house.
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No, they didn't call him call him the impaler because he liked to make in kebabs.
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Oh, yeah.
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I suppose he did, but let's dive into it here, man.
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Where should we start?
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Well, you know what?
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I think we should start on the uh let's let's make it fun.
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Instead of going through our top 10 first, we'll go through that stuff afterwards because I do have a top 10 that we'll talk about a little bit later.
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But I know that you wanted to talk a little bit about pop culture and the um occult, if you will, when it comes to uh the werewolf culture in society today.
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Touching on, I guess first we could touch on stuff like movies and cinema because I believe that I love a good werewolf movie.
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Love a good one.
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I hate a poor one, right?
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It's it's very you can make a great werewolf storyline movie suck to high heavens by having terrible, terrible uh whether it's special effects and whatever you want to call it, right?
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If you have an awful looking werewolf in your movie, it ruins the whole thing.
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Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Uh Teen Wolf, Michael J.
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Fox, good or bad.
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What do you think?
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Good for its time.
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Okay, but it was a that was a different kind of werewolf movie.
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It was an 80s werewolf, right?
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It was like fun.
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He was like surfing on top of the van, remember?
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That was like a Scooby-Doo type werewolf, right?
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But there were other ones back then.
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Uh I we touched on like uh for me, memor more memorable werewolf movies growing up were in the 80s.
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Was one of them was Silver Bullet.
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I don't know Silver Bullet, but great name, by the way.
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Yeah, great.
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I mean, great name.
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Definitely.
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I would recommend watching it today, to be honest with you.
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Not a bad uh werewolf in the movie, and the story was really cool.
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It's a kid in a wheelchair, uh, and he suspects this guy's a werewolf, and he keeps investigating him and following him around, and then he ends up like uh shooting a firework off in the werewolf's eye, and then the guy he suspects is a werewolf the next day he sees him and he's got an eye patch on, and you know, it's really good, really good for an 80s movie, definitely.
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And in the special effects were were well done for back then, too.
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Yeah, yeah, that's that's really cool.
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I know.
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Um I had mentioned off camera one of my favorite 80s movies was the monster squad.
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I don't know if you remember the monster squad, they had like Dracula, there was like a mummy, they had the creature from the lagoon, and then they had the werewolf guy.
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Yeah, and uh, and he he was he was like awesome in that movie.
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I don't know where the hell the monster squad came from because I I don't know about you, but I don't ever remember that in the theater or any I don't know where it came out of what ether of nowhereville that movie came from, but it was like randomly on on like Showtime or something.
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It was one of those made-for-tv movies.
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Yeah, yeah, the monster squad.
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It was awesome, man.
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That was a great 80s movie.
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They should do a remake of that today.
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I think it would be you think they could do a good job, or you think they'd ruin it?
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Yeah, you know, the the the thing with any good remake is you have to be able to pull some of the old, bring it into the new, but then add a few new elements.
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And if if you can do that the right way, I think you can get a great sequel, even years later, because really it's the brand, right?
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The brand's what what matters, but with the bad ones, you know, they just try to completely redo it all in CGI, and that looks terrible.
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Yeah, there was one that comes to mind, I think it was called Cursed, and there were these women werewolves.
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Now, it's funny because some of the movie was good and some of it was terrible, right?
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The werewolf, it's it's like the movie was cursed, it is, yeah.
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Unintended.
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The werewolf itself was fan looked fantastic, terrifying, right?
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And there was a scene in the movie that was like damn, right?
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And it was like it was great writing for this scene.
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This woman, she's in a parkade, and the where this werewolf is hunting her.
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She's you know, she she realizes it, and the playing the whole cat and mouse thing hiding behind cars, under cars, around cars, and the werewolf's trying to find her, and then finally she makes a break for the uh for the elevator in the parkade to go, and uh, she gets in the elevator, the wolf's running across across the cartops.
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It's really good, right?
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It's coming after her.
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She gets in the elevator, door closes, wolf's trying to get in, elevator starts to move, and it sticks right in the center of the two floors, right?
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So she's in the elevator, doors opened, maybe a foot, right?
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So she can see both floors, and the wolf's like trying to on the bottom floor, trying to get in there and get her, right?
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But she's in the corner, can't get her.
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So then uh all of a sudden it stops, and then she is this moment of you know, this this tension, and she looks, and when she looks down, right, into the little hole, into the hole for the bottom floor.
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All you see is the door swinging closed to the stairwell.
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Like, oh shit.
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Yeah, wolf's coming in the top end because it fits, but that was an intense scene, very well written.
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I'd never seen anything like that in a werewolf movie before, right?
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Very creative, very intense for that whole elevator stock halfway.
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Wolf goes up the stairs, and you know, it's like bull crap, right?
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Yeah, but then later in the movie, uh, you know, at the end and the climax of everything, and this girl, she's fighting with this wolf, and this and the and the wolf's like, ah, and it yells at her.
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It's up on this because she hurts the wolf with fire or something, and it's it's up in these statues near the ceiling, and it yells at her, calls her a the wolf calls her a bitch, and it gives her the finger.
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And like, you just ruined it.
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Like ruined it.
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What the hell you turned it into a chick click, right?
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Oh man, you had it, and then you lost it.
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Yeah, the female wolf, and it just I'm like, uh, why did you do that?
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It's such good writing up to that point, right?
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It's really funny.
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Like, I would have hated, I would have if I was in the boardroom, it's you know, with writers and they're like, Yeah, let's make the wolf call her a bitch in a girl's voice, and then give her the finger at the end.
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That would be hilarious.
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Yeah, that's terrible.
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That's that's not very good.
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No, so you can make a good werewolf movie very bad by doing something like that, right?
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Yeah, completely broke from what a werewolf origin kind of you know is.
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So there's good and there's bad when it comes to these movies, but again, I think it what it boils down to is the the story can be a little softer, like ginger snaps.
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Right?
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It's kind of a soft.
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Have you seen ginger snaps?
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No, but I know the cookie.
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I had a brownie once.
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It's these two young girls.
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Uh, one of the their sisters, the popular one, gets bitten by a werewolf, but slowly spirals into becoming a full-out werewolf.
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Great werewolf optically in the movie.
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The story was a little soft, but because the wolf was good, it carried the movie.
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The wolf was terrifying looking, so it carried the movie, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, this there's there's lots of good and bad, but uh a bad wolf can make or break your movie.
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That's true, that's true.
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And and you know, sometimes um sometimes it maybe goes beyond a good or a bad wolf.
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Like I can think of a recent example of this.
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Um, I don't know if you watched the show Wednesday on uh Netflix.
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No, I saw it advertised, I haven't watched it though.
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So basically it's Wednesday Adams from the Adams family, and it's her, you know, away at the the school or whatever she goes to.
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And her friends are all these, like they're all different, you know, kind of weirdos, and one girl's like a werewolf.
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And then uh there's like a killer uh throughout the show, and it it turns out it's it's that one of the guys is is turning into like a werewolf and going out and attacking people and stuff.
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And in the show, it's uh it's like a CGI werewolf, right?
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So it's not like it doesn't look real, but it's also kind of neat.
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It's it's a little cartoony, it's a little weird because it it's like a Tim Burton.
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The whole show is Tim Burton.
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Like if you know Tim Burton, Beetlejuice, you know, Edward Scissor hands, all that stuff.
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Any, yeah, anything Johnny Depp.
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Yeah, any Johnny Depp.
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Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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You know, the the demon barber of Fleet Street, you know.
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You know, so uh so anyway, so that's Wednesday, and and yeah, they got the werewolf character, and it's it's actually a really good character, and there's multiple scenes you're like, holy shit, like whoa, like that was intense, you know.
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Um so that's that's kind of like a a fun kind of but also equally really violent in a weird cartoony world kind of way, werewolf.
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Um, but I also liked um you know, they had the werewolf in uh um true blood, right?
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The guy that I think his character was Al C and he he they brought him in, he he was aware, I think is how they referred to him, you know, because they had the vampires and they had the bring in the the wolf.
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Okay, that was pretty cool.
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You know, we saw him over there.
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They had the werewolf in uh Twilight, right?
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That that one kid that all the girls liked, you know, they thought he was hot.
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He was in it too.
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Yeah, no, um, but uh you know, kind of some other werewolves are you know coming to my mind, and obviously this is all random.
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Um, I don't know if you remember from I think it was like the late 80s, early 90s, there was a video game called Rampage.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Rampage, it was in the arcade, or they had it on Genesis, and one of the characters was the werewolf, and he was like massive.
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He was like the oversized werewolf that would destroy the buildings.
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He was pretty cool.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They had the the werewolf, the reptile, and the the ape or something.
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Yeah, yeah, the ape.
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Yeah, that was a good one.
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But you know, I was gonna tell you is one of my um favorite movies growing up was the movie Wolf with Jack Nicholson.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I don't know if you remember this movie, but it was basically he's like some some sort of business executive schmuck, something like that.
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And I I think somehow it's like he he gets like a flat tire or he hits something.
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It was something weird like that, and he goes out to check the car, and then he gets randomly bit by this wolf in like the middle of nowhere.
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And the whole movie is him steadily kind of like turning into the wolf, and like like he's got this uh nemesis guy that he's kind of battling against, this other business guy, and that guy is kind of like weirdly turning into a wolf at the same time, and then they're battling each other, and yeah, they had like like superhuman strength, and they could like jump really high and weird stuff like that.
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But I remember um there was this one scene in particular in that movie where they're in the men's room and they're at the urinals, right?
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And Nicholson's talking to him, and the other guy's you know over there chirping in his ear, and you can tell he's just pissing off Nicholson.
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And at one point, Nicholson turns his whole body and he starts pissing on the guy's shoe.
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The guy's like, Oh, he's like, What are you doing?
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You know, and he's like, Mark in my territory.
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That's Jack Nicholson, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Great movie, man.
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And and you know, I would say too, I can't remember if this was before Batman Returns, but somewhere around that same era, and obviously Michelle Pfeiffer was in this, and she was in Batman Returns as Catwoman.
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And uh, and and she it by the end of this movie, you could tell that she was like turning into a wolf too, because she had been hooking up with Jack, you know, and Jack at the end of it, he's like full wolf, like he's he's left all together, he's out in the woods somewhere, but great movie.
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I haven't watched it in a probably a decade and two decades, probably almost.
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So I'm gonna have to go back and watch that one.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think wolf.
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Yeah, I I think that you know, there's a lot of popularity with the with the werewolf um occult, I guess we can call it, uh, in our society.
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I don't know how much this generation likes it.
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I know zombie movies have become really, really popular again, but they're so much easier than werewolf movies.
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They are, they are.
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You know that that kind of brings up a good point right there, is that I think what we're saying is for a director out there, maybe maybe the next Jordan Peel movie or something.
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Let's bring back the werewolf and let's make it good.
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Like, I gotta say, I actually just watched uh Jordan Peel's um get out for the first time the other night.
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That was good, intense.
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Yeah, whoo! Yeah, he could do the werewolf, he could totally bring that back, you know.
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Yeah, he does a good job.
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Uh, there was that one, and then he did uh us or something like that as well.
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Yeah, there's another one called uh I think it's called Nope.
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I gotta watch that one too.
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That one was good.
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I watched that one a couple times.
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Did you?
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Yeah, it's it's pretty funny.
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It's a good movie, it's scary but funny too.
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So um, it's like how how how black people would deal with aliens kind of thing.
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Nope.
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You know, where a white person would be like just going to investigate everything and it's like nope.
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So okay, so wait a minute.
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So so let's kind of go back to pop culture a minute, though, for the werewolf.
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Um so the werewolf is known for it's the guy that turns into the werewolf on the full moon, right?
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You gotta have the full moon, it's gotta be clear.
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We can't have any clouds, so that's gonna screw it up, right?
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He's only gonna go halfway.
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Um, but then you also have things like the silver bullet, right?
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Like you gotta shoot him with a silver bullet.
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That's the only thing that'll that'll kill the werewolf.
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You know, I don't know if you know the origination of that.
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I don't I don't think I do, believe it or not.
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I don't know either where where the where that would have originated from.
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I can find out.
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Yeah, like I wonder if if somebody, you know, maybe something like this comes from Europe.
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You know, that there could be some weird origination like that with silver, because you know, like even going back in time back to the uh the vampire stuff, I mean there's a lot of like ancient graves where they've like decapitated the person, they've driven the stake through the heart, you know, like they legitimately were like this person's a damn vamp and they are not coming back.
00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.799
So maybe that's where the silver bullet comes from.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it's weird.
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They would have to be, yeah.
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I can't think of anything else that's supposed to kill werewolves.
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The silver bullet kills werewolves rule, uh, is likely a modern pop culture fixture built on an older, broader folklore idea that silver could harm witches, enhanced people, and certain supernatural beings.
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It was not a standard feature of mid evil or early modern werewolf legends.
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Silver already had a reputation as a purifying or anti-magic metal in alchemy and astrology.
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It was linked to the moon.
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In European folk belief, it was used against the evil eye, curses, and being thought immune to ordinary weapons.
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Early examples are usually not werewolves.
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Scottish accounts from 17th and 18th centuries describe supposedly invulnerable outlaws or diabolic figures shot with silver button cut from a coat.
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Well, the brothers, yeah.
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The brothers grim tail, the two brothers, has a bulletproof witch killed by silver buttons fired from a gun.
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That's interesting.
00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:13.839
You know, I I picture the Scottish shooting like the uh like the the Keebler elves with like like some silver.
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Hey I'm 90, you know, like 93 Celtic over here.
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Come on.
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Hey, don't get enraged over there, you mad, Scott.
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Calm down, leprechaun.
00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:35.519
So maybe let's dive into the top 10 reasons.
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So I asked AI to theorize that werewolves were real, right?
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How could that be possible?
00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.839
So let's look at it from a scientific perspective.
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Okay.
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An engineered or viral genetic switch, a virus, parasite, or deliberate gene edit could insert a regulatory cascade that when triggered by moonlight linked by hormones, stress, or chemical signals, activates dormant development pathways.
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The result would be accelerated expression of hair, muscle, claw, and uh detention genes.
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Uh detention gene already present in the human genome rather than creation of wholly new tissue from nothing.
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So you're telling me there's a chance.
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Telling you there's a chance scientifically.
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Yes, a virus parasite or deliberate gene edit, which is interesting because what is something medical science is always trying to do manipulate our genetic code.
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Yeah, this is true, and and you know, I can think of um, you know, like some of those like freak shows from like the last century, you know, like they'd always have like the guy that's like full hair, like on his face and everything, you know.
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It's it's like cousin it, you know, and like could there could there be some really odd stuff out there?
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I don't know.
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I I suppose so, you know.
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Or what is that disorder called?
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I can't remember, where every inch of your body is covered in hair.
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God, I don't know.
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I I don't know what it is, but that would be awful.
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Yeah, that is actually a thing.
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I've seen, I think I saw some two guys on like Dr.
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Phil or something who had it.
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It's like every square inch of your body is man, how do you like would you even bother trying to keep up with it?
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I mean, at that point you're kind of like a dog, like you need somebody to like shave you every month, right?
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To like trim all that, or like a sheep, you know, or otherwise, I mean you're just gonna like die of heat stroke, right?
00:21:58.240 --> 00:21:59.759
Yeah, I well, I would definitely be.
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Moving somewhere cold.
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Yeah.
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Imagine living in Florida or something like Arizona or something.
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:19.119
Well, you know, that's probably where somebody like that would turn up, is like like we were just saying, like somewhere like Las Vegas, you know, you'd have the wolf man that lives there, and you know, it's dry and hot half the time.
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Um three quarters of the time.
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It's a lot of shampoo, man.
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It's a lot of shampoo.
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A lot of shampoo, a lot of vacuuming, also, a lot of vacuuming and a lot of brushing.
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You know.
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Uh number two would be extreme but incomplete.
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Uh the camera kind of there we go.
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My camera was acting very bad.
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Instead of becoming a wolf, the person undergoes a partial reversible change, heightened uh heightened aggression, temporary uh hyper hyperocosis, okay, enlarged canines, stronger jaw muscul muscles, and altered gait, gut.
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Gate, yeah, it's probably the gate.
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Yeah, the way they walk.
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Oh, okay.
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:38.720
Uh this stays closer to known conditions such as uh con congestinal hypertosis, not good with medical terms, or hormone-driven by changes scale up dramatically by unknown by an unknown trigger.
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I mean, that would doesn't sound as scientifically possible as the first one.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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You know, I mean, you know, I think about like think of like somebody like Andre the Giant, right?
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The the gigantism.
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You do see that from time to time, where these people have like their bones are just bigger, right?
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They're like bigger than everybody else, and and the hormones are what drive a lot of that.
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:13.039
You know, you think about it, could you have hormones that drive you more towards like the wolf or the the dog?
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I suppose you you probably could in some some way, you know.
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Like some sort of a de-evolutionary condition, yeah, maybe or an evolutionary condition, I guess.
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:39.599
But but you know, at the same time, like a dog or a wolf is very different from a person, and that you know, they don't have the hands like we do to use the hands, they use their mouth for everything, right?
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:51.039
So you'd almost have to change the way that you you're physiologically thinking about uh using your hands to instead just using your mouth for everything.
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You know?
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:53.599
Well, that'd be kind of weird.
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That would be awful.
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That would be awful.
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I look at my cat sometimes and I wonder that what it would be like to have to do everything with your face.
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.359
Yep, you can't wipe your butt, you gotta lick your butt.
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That's how it works with the cat.
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I'd rather have a dirty butt.
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Uh symbiotic or parasitic organism, a specialized microbe, fungi, or internal symbiote, uh symbiote could live dormant in a host and under certain conditions uh secrete growth factors, pigment, and structural proteins, the tr the transformation in quotations would be symbiont, rapidly re-modeling surface tissue and behavior while the host's core skeleton remains largely human.
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.160
That's kind of a cool idea.
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.039
Um, that's that's an interesting thought.
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.799
You know, personal story.
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.440
I got bit by a spider at some point, right?
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I knew it, Spider-Man.
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:08.079
Say just your neighborhood Spider-Man, guys.
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:14.319
Um, no, but I apparently I got bit by a spider at some point on my forearm.
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.519
I don't know when it happened.
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.039
Maybe it's I was asleep, maybe it was on my shirt, who knows, right?
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:28.559
And I would have this spot on my arm that whenever I would get like really hot or like clammy or whatever, it would like puff up.
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.079
And it was like weird.
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It was like three like like kind of like bumps that would kind of come out of nowhere, you know?
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:40.480
And I remember I was at the uh dermatologist at one point asking them about this.
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.079
I'm like, what is the deal with this?
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:43.519
Like, is that what happened here?
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Was this a spider bite?
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.160
They're like, Yeah, it's probably spider venom.
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I was like, okay.
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.559
I'm like, so so what actually happened?
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:58.799
And they're like, so basically it bit you, and the toxins are still in your arm, and maybe they break down over time, maybe not, and you just sort of like live with them.
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.759
So it's kind of like they reactivate every once in a while.
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:02.960
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:05.759
Shoot a website, right?
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.000
So it was in my forearm, yeah.
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:17.839
And so you you know, like I'd be like, you know, cuddling with my wife or something, and I'd be like, oh, spider bites flaring up, and she'd be like, trying to get away from it, you know.
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:20.559
Just kiss it, just kiss it.
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.319
Just give it a kiss, spider bite.
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:24.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:36.160
So, anyway, so so to say that you couldn't have you know some sort of protein or something in your body that maybe something triggers it from time to time, you know.
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.079
Like you said, the moonlight, right?
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:45.440
You get that really bright moonlight that maybe it triggers something in that, and then it it flares up.
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.119
I I don't know, you know.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.640
Kind of reminds me a little bit of that show, uh The Last of Us.
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.160
Have you ever seen that?
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.079
No, I haven't seen that one.
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.880
It's like The Walking Dead, but mushrooms cause it fungi, right?
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.279
So the fungi get into the human body and kind of possess it.
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.839
Like they like the certain there's a certain mushroom that does that to uh bugs, I think.
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.119
Like possesses the bug and controls the bug's body.
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.599
Yeah, it turns them into like a zombie, doesn't it?
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.559
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:20.240
So interesting.
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:28.880
Like the bug could be like completely hollow inside and stuff like that, like the insides have been eaten and stuff with the plant still controlling it.
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:29.680
It's crazy.
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.119
Yeah, you know, that's really weird.
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.359
I don't know if you've ever seen this as a bit of a sidebar.
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.880
Have you ever seen those videos where they'll take like a praying mantis and they know it's got a parasite in it?
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:44.880
Yeah, and they'll take it with some tweezers and hold it in the water, and that damn parasite that comes out's like four feet long.
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.759
Oh god, like it's been in this praying mantis the whole time.
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.359
You imagine how much of a relief that must be for the praying mantis?
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:55.039
Oh my gosh.
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:57.519
Thank you.
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.039
Thank you, Lord, got that thing out finally.
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.960
Gosh, I'm hungry, right?
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.680
Oh, I've seen those, yeah.
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:14.400
Um stored biological reserves and rapid remodeling.
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:34.240
The body could maintain extra collagen, uh, creatine precursors, calcium, and stem cell niches on trigger uh ostecholast uh ostocolastis uh and obstablastis.
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:48.880
Sounds like something from uh Transformers, uh would reshape bone, jaw, hands, and spine while uh fossilizing the uh produced dense fur.
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:53.599
Okay.
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.759
Yeah, that's that's kind of a weird one.
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.400
So okay, so what about this?
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:05.359
So when the full moon comes out, the wolf comes out, right?
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.240
It's not just the hair, it's not just the claws.
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.359
Uh the werewolf gets bigger, right?
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.640
It's like bigger than the guy, like significantly.
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.759
Like, what would that mean for like the bones and everything, you know?
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:25.759
Like I uh you'd have to grow two or three feet taller.
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.400
Yeah, I guess.
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:39.119
Well, it did mention the spine, it doesn't necessarily mean that the I guess the spine could separate a little bit further, or so that would have to be something like that because your legs aren't gonna grow, right?
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:46.319
I I don't know, maybe they do a little bit, but your gait, your you know, your walking gait is different if you're a wolf.
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:59.839
Um you know, earlier when I was talking about Skinwalker Ranch, you know, they've they've got a lot of these local like tribal people that they claim to have seen, you know, skinwalkers at different times.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.240
And there's a few of them that I mean they they full-blown like panic when they see them.
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:09.839
And it's like, yeah, you know, this thing's like a six to seven foot tall wolf man.
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.319
It's like, uh what?
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:27.599
And you know, like the the weird thing with with Skinwalker Ranch is that you know, the the Skinwalker, the wolf man, isn't like uh like a regular man that turns into the wolf, you know, like it's not like Dr.
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:28.640
Jekyll, Mr.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.440
Hyde.
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:48.880
It's more so like he's from like an overlapping world, like the upside down, and he walks through that portal, and all of a sudden you got you know six to seven foot tall wolf man skinwalker right there, you know, out with you in the in the woods in the middle of nowhere in Utah.
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.279
Middle of Utah.
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.640
It's gotta be some some random place like that, eh?
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:56.400
Oh god, yeah.
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Ohio.
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.759
Yeah, I mean he's he's not showing up, you know, to like the the mall, you know.
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.359
He's he's out there like in this obscure property.
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:18.240
You know, some of these poor farmers, these these poor people, you know, they're out there, they're they're legitimately like the poorest people ever, and they're just like, we're just trying to farm.
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:23.519
And it's like now you now you're dealing with the skinwalker, the six to seven foot tall wolf man.
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:24.160
Good luck.
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:30.880
Yeah, it's not walking downtown Miami or something like that, you know, bugging the homeless or no.
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:39.680
Under under the the uh under the Las Vegas streets where all those uh underground people live or anything, right?
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:48.079
But but you know, if you think about it, like if if the werewolf grows with the moonlight, then you would have to think.
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.880
I mean, this dude would split all of his clothes.
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.720
I mean, what what does he come back to when he shrinks back down?
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:56.480
You know what I mean?
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.720
Everything's hanging out.
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.519
I mean, uh good luck keeping your boxers on at that point.
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.079
Well, the Hulk deals with it all the time, right?
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.200
Great, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:08.079
The Hulk, right?
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.359
Yeah, Bruce Banner.
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:10.640
I mean, poor guy.
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:20.400
Here's an interesting one: non-human intelligence using human hosts or mimics, aliens.
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.400
I'm not saying it's aliens.
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.759
Okay, okay, like a good alien story, okay.
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:55.279
Manipulating manipulating human DNA, alien engineering or unknown organisms could wear a human appearance most of the time and shift to a more bestial form, or could introduce an appearance of a transformation in observ uh in observes through toxins or suggestions like werewolf would not be a transformed human.
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.640
Be like a hybrid, right?
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:00.319
Oh, that's wild.
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:01.920
Yeah, you know what that makes me think of.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.799
Remember that movie The Fly from like the 80s?
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:05.920
Yeah, what's his name?
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.039
From Jurassic Park, right?
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.119
Uh yeah, Jeff Goldblum, right?
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.639
It's it's kind of like the fly, right?
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:20.639
It's like, you know, we're gonna put you in this machine and we're gonna put a wolf in here with you, and we're gonna see what comes back out.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:22.960
That's kind of wild.
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:36.639
Uh perceptual, perceptual, I can't even pronounce perceptual and cultural overlay on real anomalies, rare medical events.
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.559
So we kind of touched on that a little bit already.
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:50.559
People born with like uh uh full every square inch of their body covered in hair or larger than normal canine teeth, things like that.
00:34:50.800 --> 00:35:04.000
So just biological kind of um deformities, but that's more of a just a birth defect than a any kind of werewolf lore.
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:29.199
Yeah, that could be like you know, your house was too close to the garbage dump, or you live by that city where they lit the trash on fire and it's still on fire, and now the people are weird, or you know, you got like the lead pipes, you know, the paint chips, um the the nuclear fallout, um yeesh, Chernobyl.
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:36.079
I mean, any of those um any of those things could be playing into that.
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:36.800
I don't know.
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.679
Um so let me ask you this.
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.360
What do you think fascinates people about werewolf lore?
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:54.480
Well, what is it about uh the werewolf kind of folklore that that is appealing to people?
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.000
Hmm, that's a good question.
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.360
You know, I I think when you think about the wolf, you first you gotta go back to a wolf, right?
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:05.679
Like, like what is what is a wolf?
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.199
Like, what does a wolf represent?
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:16.559
You know, it's like this wild creature that's also kind of majestic, you know, like howls at the moon in a group.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.599
It does in everything in a in a pack.
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.719
What here's yeah, well, here's the thing about wolves.
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.079
Sorry to cut you off.
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:34.639
Extremely, and you kind of touched on extremely intelligent, powerful animals grow to be very large in the wild.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.519
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.119
Very large wolves.
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.719
Um, and they're very formidable, also, right?
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:52.400
You know, maybe that's part of the allure of the werewolf, is that it's this formidable uh kind of cryptozoology.
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.480
You don't really know what you're dealing with here.
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:55.599
Is it a man?
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.039
Is it a wolf?
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.599
Does it take on sort of those characteristics of the wolf?
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:06.719
Kind of this, you know, this survivability, right?
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:14.079
Like you're not gonna well, I say you're not gonna kill the wolf, but I mean, obviously, they've tried to do that different times in history.
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.360
But um, you know, wolves are very resilient overall.
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:26.639
Um, think about what the wolf did to uh I can't remember what the breed of wolf was that they reintroduced to Yellowstone Park.
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:29.599
That might have been a gray wolf.
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:30.719
Was that a gray wolf?
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.960
I think it was like a timber wolf or something.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:45.760
Yeah, they they reintroduced this species of wolf back into the ecosystem of Yellowstone Park, and it immediately revived the entire ecosystem.
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:56.880
The ri even to the rivers flowing deeper and and stronger, and like everything flourished in the ecosystem just by reintroducing uh this animal.
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:06.320
Yeah, you know, you you gotta have those uh those you well, there's an entire food chain of predators, right?
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.920
And if you don't have certain ones, then other things you know take over.
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:19.039
Um, for example, you know, you'd have probably a heck of a lot more deer or bison or moose, you know.
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:26.000
But you you have wolves back in in play, and you know, that kind of brings brings back order.
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:31.360
You know, you have too much of any particular species.
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.199
I mean, it kind of I think it throws everything off, you know.
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:36.800
I'm looking into it right now.
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:38.960
What what kind of wolf it was?
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.360
Uh I remember reading about it.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:56.239
Uh it was the the gray wolf, yes, the canine lupus uh from Western Canada, mainly mainly from Alberta and British Columbia, introduced uh, including Jasper, blah blah blah.
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:12.079
Uh the return is widely described as triggering a uh trophic cascade, trophic cascade through the scale through the scale of the effect is the um the scale is debated on what the effect was.
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:24.159
Uh after wolves disappeared, elk numbers rose, like you were saying, and heavily uh browned yellow willow, aspen, and cottonwood, especially along stems.
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:32.320
Uh, with wolves back, the elk density fell, and elks spent less time feeding in open uh areas.
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.679
So that kind of helped the ecosystem.
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:49.599
So just by doing that, uh controlling the vegetarian uh population of Yellowstone Park helped boost the the ecosystem, the rivers, everything.
00:39:49.840 --> 00:40:09.440
Um it even helped grizzly bears thrive, it says really, yeah, everything it helped the entire ecosystem just reintroducing, taking the gray wolf from Canada, introducing it to Yellowstone Park, and turn the whole ecosystem around.
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.719
You know, I I think what you're alluding to is that if anyone's gonna fix it, it's the Canadians.
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:15.599
Exactly.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.440
That's all I'm saying, right?
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:18.559
That's all I'm saying.
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.079
Sure isn't coming from the US, that's for sure.
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.159
Even our animals are better.
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:24.880
That's what I'm saying.
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.559
The animals are better.
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.559
They're here to help, eh?
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.119
Wait till we start dropping moose on your ass.
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.159
Your whole economy's gonna be better.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:36.639
Here's a moose.
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.119
The whole US debt is gone.
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:41.599
Solve your problems.
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.159
Yep.
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.119
Squash over some moot moose sausage.
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:47.760
That's really funny.
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:58.239
Yeah, that's that's to lead back to the uh the value, the the intelligence of the wolf.
00:40:59.039 --> 00:40:59.360
Right?
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:07.119
And I think that's why maybe the the and I I also think that there's maybe an aspect of of what if, right?
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.360
What if why isn't it possible scientifically?
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:16.239
Like you you talked about um uh what was it again?
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.480
Uh the giant wolves there, the uh dire wolf, dire wolves, right?
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:28.960
From like we're talking like the wolves that you saw the orcs riding on, like Lord of the Rings and stuff like that, dire wolves, massive.
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:36.079
Yeah, so it gets people thinking, what if it almost in the same vein of as like uh Bigfoot or Sasquatch?
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.840
Why isn't it possible?
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.559
I don't see why not.
00:41:40.719 --> 00:42:00.079
Yeah, you know what's funny is that I've always had this belief like we get kind of caught up in our daily routine and lives, and we sort of like assume we know everything, and all it takes is going out to the absolute middle of nowhere where there's no people, and you're just kind of like, Whoa, this is a little intimidating.
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.320
I'm out here and there's no one here.
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.159
It's like maybe I don't know everything, you know.
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.320
Maybe I couldn't survive, yeah.
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.239
Yeah, maybe I wouldn't survive out here.
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:10.719
I don't know.
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:12.480
This is kind of weird, you know.
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.159
Not digging it.
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:32.400
Yeah, so but I I think that there is that fascination with it of the and not just the werewolf, but like I said, the the whole occult, the the the horror genre, so to speak, is like well, we talk about good and evil in our everyday lives.
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:39.760
We know that good and evil exists because we see good and evil every day, just in in ourselves, right?
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:49.039
So there's a lot of I think a lot of fantasy of a manifestation of evil in the in that kind of uh that kind of a way.
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:55.199
But you know that that kind of brings up a good point, is is the werewolf inherently evil?
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.199
I was thinking that as I was saying it.
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.280
I was like, could you really say evil though?
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:07.840
Because like is a dire wolf or a gray wolf that's eating an elk, is that evil, or is it just doing what a wolf does?
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.159
Yeah, that's that that's exactly it.
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:11.440
It's doing what a wolf does.
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.199
What else is a wolf supposed to do?
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.920
Is it not supposed to eat that elk?
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.079
No eat a plant.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.280
Eat snake berries, come on.
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:33.039
Yeah, so uh okay, so here's another thought I was just having is that when you think about werewolves and popular culture, right?
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:41.280
And you think about some of these other things like like a vampire or you know, the creature from the black lagoon or or whatever, right?
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:53.519
Like I feel like like we got a lot, we got a lot of vampire, we got a lot of vamps, you know, we got a lot of vamps, we got that covered, a lot of vamp movies, shows, you name it.
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.440
There really isn't a lot of just straight werewolf content.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.559
Right?
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.719
Like, like it's it's kind of weird.
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:09.920
It's it's almost like like in in cult our in our pop culture, it's always sort of paired up.
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:24.559
It's like, well, you know, we brought you the vamps, so we also got a werewolf on the show, and you're like, ah, you know, and it's it's like, you know, maybe what I want to see is maybe I want the straight up, you know, no holds bar werewolf movie.
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.079
Like, I don't I don't need the vamps.
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:30.000
I don't I don't need the mummy and the creature from the black lagoon, all these other guys.
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.239
I just want I just want the wolves.
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:43.679
Yeah, well, I mean, I think because it's like I said, a a wolf movie or even show, I think it's harder than anything else.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:44.639
You think so?
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:52.639
I think it's harder because if if again, like I said, if the wolf sucks, it doesn't matter what the story is, right?
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.840
Yeah, zombie movies are very different.
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:04.719
It's not hard to dress up a bunch of extras and to look like the undead, and you don't even need a ton of special effects for stuff like that, right?
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:06.000
It's true, yep.
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:13.920
So it's it's very simple to do in terms, you know, in relation to making a a CG werewolf look convincing.
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:21.920
Um I I would guess that it's probably far easier to do a zombie movie than it is a werewolf movie.
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.039
That's probably why you don't you don't get as many as you do when it comes to zombies, right?
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:28.639
Yeah, that could be.
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:29.519
That could be.
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.320
You know, uh, I think though about like something like uh like Game of Thrones, right?
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:38.719
Like Game of Thrones had direwolves, but they never really had a werewolf, right?
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:49.920
And they did have the zombies, you know, the army of the dead that came from the north, and boy, were they intimidating and scary as hell when they were coming at you going full blast.
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:56.400
You know, like it couldn't couldn't they do something kind of similar with like a like a werewolf type of show?
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:06.960
And and you know, it something else too is that when I think about most of these shows that have werewolves or references to a werewolf, it's always like a loner.
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.079
You ever notice that?
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:09.280
It's always a loner.
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:23.280
But the reality is that wolves are not loners, like that they they do things as a group, so you know it's it's almost like there's a there's an opportunity here for something around werewolves as a group.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:36.559
You know why I think that is is because there is no leading character werewolf, there's no Dracula to the werewolf uh theme, right?
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.800
It's always just werewolves.
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:53.360
Um there's no like even like something like mummies, you could you could make up an ancient Egypt character, and you know, but there there is no werewolf dra version of Dracula, so to speak.
00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:00.960
I mean we did see the um uh uh under what is it uh underworld?
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.639
Is it underworld movies?
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:03.280
Is that there?
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.639
With vampires versus the werewolves, I think so.
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:07.599
I think so, yeah.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:20.079
Yeah, those were good, but they tried to introduce like a lead werewolf type character, uh Lucian or something like that, I think his name was, which is a total werewolf type name, right?
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:32.000
Lucian, of course, it'd be something like that, but um but as those movies progressed, the werewolves got like worse and worse looking.
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:33.840
The CG got worse and worse.
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.400
I think it's because they just gave us too much, right?
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.159
Like you they're just showing.
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.559
Oh, I think that part of the mystique of a werewolf type uh thing is the mystique, right?
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:53.840
The yeah, the looking like when you're like, for example, silver go back to the movie Silver Bullet I mentioned earlier, right?
00:47:54.159 --> 00:48:02.159
You're seeing through the wolves' eyes through the leaves in a bush while it's watching somebody or something, and you can hear the breathing and that kind of stuff, right?
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.440
And it adds that mystique to what does this wolf look like?
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.079
And you don't see it until the last five minutes of the movie.
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:12.639
You see glimpses of it here and there, right?
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.840
But they tease you with it here and there, but there's that mystique.
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.800
But I think when they just full-fledged shove it in your face for the whole movie, it's kind of like too much of it now.
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:23.920
That's a good point.
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:26.960
It's just like it's like bad CGI.
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:35.840
It's it's kind of like when you when you when you're making like a soup and you put in too much of one ingredient and it just ruins the whole thing.
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.639
That that's that's kind of I think like what you're saying.
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:48.639
It's it's like they over they overkill it when they really don't need to, you know, just just make it kind of elusive and kind of hard to put your finger on it, you know.
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.039
Like going back to that movie Wolf with Jack Nicholson, that's kind of how that was.
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.960
It was it's sort of like, is he actually turning into a wolf, or like what's going on here?
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:08.000
You you don't really know until the very end of the movie where it's like, yeah, he did turn into a full-blown wolf, you know.
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:14.239
But you know, a good director, uh, like less is more, right?
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.000
Yeah, a good director.
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:17.599
Did you see signs?
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.280
Yes, I did see signs.
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.840
Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix.
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.920
Fantastic.
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:32.719
When they're sitting in the living room with their tinfoil hats on, or he's out in the cornfield in a flashlight, and all you see is a little hand move.
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.119
That's why you don't see a full alien or anything like that.
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.159
You say little hand move in the dark, you're like, right?
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:45.679
And then he runs and he's scared, and he's or when they come outside and they're running around the house because something's you know out on the porch, and as but you don't see anything.
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:49.440
It's like, oh, I jumped over the roof or something, whatever, right?
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:50.400
Like blah blah blah.
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:59.679
It's like that is good storytelling because they're not there's that, like you said, elusiveness, right?
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:06.400
There's that it's not in your face, you don't see it, you want to see it, but they're they're gonna give you just a little bit, right?
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.960
But not enough, you know, it's enough to make a like what was that?
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.119
But you don't actually see an alien until the last five minutes of the movie.
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.039
It's it's really scarier when you don't see it, you know.
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.199
Like, I think a good example of this is the X-Files, right?
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:34.719
Like the X-files are very much so like that, where it's like, you know, every episode starts off with some crazy event or something happens, or some death, or whatever.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.760
And then, you know, they're brought in to like investigate.
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:53.920
And while they're investigating, there's usually, you know, a couple more deaths, or you know, something kind of happens along the lines, but you you hardly ever see whatever the thing is directly, if not for just a little snippet here or there in the episode.
00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:03.039
Most of it's kind of like the fear of like we you can't quite put your finger on what the hell is going on here, and you can't really figure it out, you know.
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:10.159
Is it just me, or is the X Files just um the Twilight Zone with main characters?
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:17.360
Yeah, and don't don't don't you ruin the X Files for me, Rob.
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:18.400
Don't don't do it.
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.360
This is favorite shows, don't do it.
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.800
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just like the next generation version of um of the Twilight Zone, right?
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:29.360
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.239
Just imagine Mulder going, there's something on the wing.
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:33.920
There's something on the wing.
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.320
Submitted for your approval.
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.480
I gotta say though, I personally love the X Files.
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.480
I yeah, I used to like it too.
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:51.360
I don't think I've actually watched every single episode, but I remember watching it back in the 90s.
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:51.920
Yeah.
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.400
Back when Fox was popular at its peak.
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:55.360
There you go.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:56.159
There you go.
00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:02.159
But you you know, I think at the end of the day, there's a lot of opportunity for the werewolf, right?
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:10.480
Like, I'm I mean, I I feel like we've really kind of uh like the the whole vamp story is sort of like a dead horse, so we just keep on beating it, you know.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.960
And it's like I don't know, I don't know how many more Vamp movies we need, you know.
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.159
Yeah, my favorite is the zombie movies.
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.159
Keep doing those, don't stop doing those.
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.400
I've I've had enough of vampires, yeah.
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.199
They've they've tried they've added too much romance to the whole vampire thing, right?
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.840
Um, it's a vampire stuff's not even doesn't even feel like it's for men anymore.
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.000
Um, they feel like chick movies, but they're not for men anymore, yeah.
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.440
They're not for men anymore, right?
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.360
Like they're like teenage love novels.
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.480
I can't take it.
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.840
Yeah, no, after twilight, that was it, right?
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:44.960
It's over.
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.440
Yeah, yeah, but uh you know, werewolves.
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:48.159
I I agree.
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:59.679
I think that you know, if someone was smart out there and they really wanted to put a lot of money into making a good movie, maybe Netflix will do it or something because Netflix likes to make good movies nowadays, uh, big budget movies.
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:15.119
You know, maybe you create create that Dracula for the werewolf version, uh, you know, for werewolves, and and maybe create that character, maybe make an entire trilogy or or uh franchise around something like that.
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.440
They tried it with uh Underworld Underworld or whatever it's called, yeah.
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.760
You know, but they didn't stay consistent with a character.
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:34.079
And I think if you did that, just made it about, you know, get the vampires out of there, make it about this werewolf character, and you know, maybe it may have a little bit of uh like with Dracula, for example.
00:53:34.239 --> 00:54:01.039
When they Dracula is not as cut and dry as an evil character as you think when you when you actually watch like a a Dracula-based movie or or something, it there's there is there's layers to his personality, his character, where on some levels you you empathize or sympathize with him, uh, because his life is a is a tragedy at the same time, right?
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:10.159
Yeah, so there's layers to a character, and if you were to create a werewolf character with with layers, you might get somewhere, right?
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:23.519
Yeah, yeah, I I I think you know, to have a good show around it, you kind of have to kind of like I was saying earlier with a sequel, it's like you gotta you gotta bring the old forward.
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.480
You know, I I can think of the uh like a good analogy of this.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:32.400
I remember when um earlier in my career, you know, working in like call centers and things like that.
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:39.599
And in a call center, when somebody calls in, there could be like 20 pages of notes from this person, right?
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:50.079
And they always tell you, like, bring it all forward so that whoever looks at it after you doesn't need to read all 20 pages to figure out what the heck is going on here.
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.159
And I kind of feel like that's sort of like the same thing with the whole werewolf story, right?
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.760
Like it's like let's bring it forward, we'll tell you everything.
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.239
Basically, we'll we'll set the foundation.
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.119
Think of it like that.
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:06.960
We're gonna pour the foundation, episode one, and then ep two, it's gonna get a little crazy.
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:27.679
Like we're gonna take this thing in ways that you've never seen before, or you know, kind of introduce some parts of this thing that play on like an actual pack of wolves, or you know, like the jaw strength of this creature, or you know, the way that it hunts, or the way that it, you know, does this or that, right?
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:28.960
I feel like you could do that.
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:35.199
They could do it with a like one of my favorite shows all time was Supernatural.
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:36.719
Right?
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:38.800
I have you ever watched that, The Winchesters?
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.119
No, no, I heard of it, haven't seen it.
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.559
One of my favorite shows all time, fantastic show.
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:54.960
Um, dealt with all things supernatural, but uh, you know, a style like that, a drama, a little bit of comedy in there, sympathetic characters, right?
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.760
Uh, nothing evil is truly evil.
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:08.880
There's there's nuance to you know to their characters and why they do what they do, and you know, tragedy and and triumph and all kinds of things like that, right?
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.199
So like there's a vampire.
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:34.480
I think in one of the episodes, there's a vampire that uh a vampire clan they come across because they kill everything supernatural, and they come across this vampire clan that doesn't want to kill people and just drinks from blood banks, but they go in and want to kill the whole nest of vampires because they don't believe the vampires can be, you know, like so that there's you could do that kind of a thing, right?
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:39.440
Yeah, you can and that that's where you know character development.
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.079
You could, you know, you could really focus on that.
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I think that there's there is an opportunity there.
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I agree with you.
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Yeah, I I like what you said about it is like is it inherently bad?
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Maybe not, you know, like you know, I I think in like in the movies we have up until now, it's it's usually like it's almost like the person's like a victim, and it's like, oh, yeah, oh no, you know, if the if the if the cloud's clear and it's uh you know, full moon, I'm I'm I'm gonna do it and I don't want to.
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:26.559
You know, maybe you flip that on its head and it's like, yeah, you know, I'm looking forward to the full moon, you know, like look we got a plan for this one, you know, it's about to get crazy, you know, whatever's going on, or you know, maybe you have like a like a dexter of werewolves, you know what I mean?
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.760
Like, like, yeah, he's got his schedule planned, you know.
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Next Tuesday's a full moon, time for these guys over here to eat shit, you know what I mean?
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.840
Like, like that, that could be a great show.
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That's supernatural, essentially.
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.880
So, but yeah, uh, let us know.
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Do you do you have any uh any final thoughts on the episode?
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.239
As we approach Halloween, we are in October now.
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We are in October, and you know, I gotta say, in terms of Halloween, put putting my Halloween hat on here.
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I don't know if I've ever gone out as a werewolf.
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.079
Um, I I personally I gotta think about putting on the masks.
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I can't put on the mask and get all sweaty and just breathing my own sweat and recycled air like I can't can't do it, man.
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:21.920
So that's unfortunately that's one Halloween costume I'm probably never gonna get to is the werewolf.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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I'm with you on that.
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I gotta I I I I've been thinking about dressing up this year.
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I I haven't dressed up in probably 10 years, but I do take my yeah, I do take my son, and you know, last time I dressed up, I was bouncing at the bars, and you know, you gotta wear costume when you're so I was I think it was Bane last time.
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:46.719
Well, that's a pretty pretty good one.
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:47.199
Okay.
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.880
So broke Batman's back that night and called it a called it a day, and retired.
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Well, hey, you know, you know what I'm gonna do this year.
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.480
Um kind of going with the Wednesday theme.
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Um, I I've I've been looking around.
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I I was kind of back and forth between a couple different costumes, and I've I think I've sort of landed on I'm gonna be Gomez Adams and I'm gonna have my wife be Morticia.
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I figure that'll be kind of fun.
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Why not?
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You know, it I I personally I really like Halloween.
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I love it, man.
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I I love like dressing up just completely ridiculous for the evening and uh living it up.
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I love Halloween too.
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I like I I'm not I'm not a big guy at dressing up.
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Uh I don't mind it, but I just I like the season, I like the night, I like to take my son trick-or-treating, uh, you know, greeting the people while they're a lot of people are sitting out on their front lawns with a fire going and stuff like that as you're coming up to trick-or-treat.
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And yeah, um actually, my father-in-law, my mom's uh on my wife's mom's side, there obviously uh she's remarried.
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My wife's stepdad.
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He is a huge Halloween guy.
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It is his Christmas.
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He decorates his house, becomes a monster, his whole house is a costume, right?
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And he's like he's like six foot eight, six foot nine, so he wears his grim reaper outfit every year with this long like scythe that he made himself.
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That's a little creepy.
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He walks up and down the street all night reaching out to kids like this.
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Whoa, whoa, that's pretty intense.
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Yeah, you know, I gotta say that I think the uh man, the Halloween decorations, they have come a long way.
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I'll tell you what, like, and and it's not just like these like crappy inflatables, but like, I mean, you go to a lot of stores now, like there's some pretty good stuff out there.
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Like, we were randomly, I think we were at Marshall's.
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This was like weeks ago, too, you know.
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And I walked in, I was like, holy shit.
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I'm like, what is that?
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And it was like an entire Halloween section, and then it was awesome.
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I mean, like they had like pictures on the wall and like hands and you know, things that you hit the button and it starts cackling and laughing at you, you know, and like I was like, man, this is awesome! Like, I would love to I'd love to sometime just get like the fog machine and get all that stuff going.
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I thought it was really cool.
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Yeah, the the problem with that kind of stuff is you have to be attentive to it because you nowadays you can't just set up a really cool front yard full of all kinds of cool stuff because kids come along, they steal stuff, they break stuff, and you know snatch it.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's too bad.
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But anyways, this concludes our broadcast day.
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Once again, uh, we will be back uh in a couple of days, and we've have decided to up our game a little bit here at the paradigm shift.
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All right, guys, welcome back to the paradigm shift.
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After a little hiatus uh on vacation, apparently Jesse likes to travel the globe and leaves me sitting at home.
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One of us has to go to Las Vegas.
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True, this is true.
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I mean, it's it's necessary, right?
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It's I don't make the rules.
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Uh I am, of course, Big Rob back again with Jesse.
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What's happening, buddy?
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Hey man, I'm uh I'm I'm a little congested.
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It's gonna be a little bit nasally of an episode, as you mentioned.
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I have been uh a globe trotter over the last uh couple weeks between uh a couple big trips, and um yeah, I got the funk, man.
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I got the funk.
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I'm hoping to kick it in time for uh Halloween, so hopefully this episode will get that going, right?
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Who's got the funk?
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He's got the funk going in the back in the time machine.
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All right, so today we're gonna talk about following our Halloween theme.
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We're gonna talk about werewolf culture.
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It's gonna be another interesting one.
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Before we get into it, any initial thoughts?
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Thoughts on the werewolf.
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Um, you know, every good uh every good like mythic mythical creature usually has some sort of origin in reality somewhere, you know, whether it's like uh the chupacabra or it's um the skinwalker, right?
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You know, the skinwalker is like the mythical half man, half wolf.
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Even um at uh I don't know if you follow this, at uh Skinwalker Ranch, you know, they they had a uh they had a bone fragment that had a tooth mark in it, and it matched the dental structure of a dire wolf, which is like a massive wolf.
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So the the idea of the uh the the quote wolf man has been around for uh quite a while, you know.
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I think this is one of those ones that um in like the uh Native American, like the Indian cultures, you know, like that like they they believe in the wolf man.
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So um yeah, this this should be a good one.
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Yeah, I think we touched on in a previous Halloween-themed episode the origins of the Dracula character.
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Yeah, yeah, and again, based on a real guy, yeah.
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Uh Vlad the Impaler, not not a good guy, not a good dude.
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No, no, you didn't want to trick or treat at his house.
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No, they didn't call him call him the impaler because he liked to make in kebabs.
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Oh, yeah.
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I suppose he did, but let's dive into it here, man.
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Where should we start?
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Well, you know what?
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I think we should start on the uh let's let's make it fun.
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Instead of going through our top 10 first, we'll go through that stuff afterwards because I do have a top 10 that we'll talk about a little bit later.
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But I know that you wanted to talk a little bit about pop culture and the um occult, if you will, when it comes to uh the werewolf culture in society today.
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Touching on, I guess first we could touch on stuff like movies and cinema because I believe that I love a good werewolf movie.
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Love a good one.
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I hate a poor one, right?
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It's it's very you can make a great werewolf storyline movie suck to high heavens by having terrible, terrible uh whether it's special effects and whatever you want to call it, right?
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If you have an awful looking werewolf in your movie, it ruins the whole thing.
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Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Uh Teen Wolf, Michael J.
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Fox, good or bad.
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What do you think?
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Good for its time.
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Okay, but it was a that was a different kind of werewolf movie.
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It was an 80s werewolf, right?
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It was like fun.
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He was like surfing on top of the van, remember?
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That was like a Scooby-Doo type werewolf, right?
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But there were other ones back then.
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Uh I we touched on like uh for me, memor more memorable werewolf movies growing up were in the 80s.
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Was one of them was Silver Bullet.
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I don't know Silver Bullet, but great name, by the way.
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Yeah, great.
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I mean, great name.
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Definitely.
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I would recommend watching it today, to be honest with you.
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Not a bad uh werewolf in the movie, and the story was really cool.
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It's a kid in a wheelchair, uh, and he suspects this guy's a werewolf, and he keeps investigating him and following him around, and then he ends up like uh shooting a firework off in the werewolf's eye, and then the guy he suspects is a werewolf the next day he sees him and he's got an eye patch on, and you know, it's really good, really good for an 80s movie, definitely.
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And in the special effects were were well done for back then, too.
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Yeah, yeah, that's that's really cool.
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I know.
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Um I had mentioned off camera one of my favorite 80s movies was the monster squad.
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I don't know if you remember the monster squad, they had like Dracula, there was like a mummy, they had the creature from the lagoon, and then they had the werewolf guy.
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Yeah, and uh, and he he was he was like awesome in that movie.
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I don't know where the hell the monster squad came from because I I don't know about you, but I don't ever remember that in the theater or any I don't know where it came out of what ether of nowhereville that movie came from, but it was like randomly on on like Showtime or something.
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It was one of those made-for-tv movies.
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Yeah, yeah, the monster squad.
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It was awesome, man.
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That was a great 80s movie.
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They should do a remake of that today.
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I think it would be you think they could do a good job, or you think they'd ruin it?
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Yeah, you know, the the the thing with any good remake is you have to be able to pull some of the old, bring it into the new, but then add a few new elements.
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And if if you can do that the right way, I think you can get a great sequel, even years later, because really it's the brand, right?
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The brand's what what matters, but with the bad ones, you know, they just try to completely redo it all in CGI, and that looks terrible.
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Yeah, there was one that comes to mind, I think it was called Cursed, and there were these women werewolves.
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Now, it's funny because some of the movie was good and some of it was terrible, right?
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The werewolf, it's it's like the movie was cursed, it is, yeah.
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Unintended.
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The werewolf itself was fan looked fantastic, terrifying, right?
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And there was a scene in the movie that was like damn, right?
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And it was like it was great writing for this scene.
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This woman, she's in a parkade, and the where this werewolf is hunting her.
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She's you know, she she realizes it, and the playing the whole cat and mouse thing hiding behind cars, under cars, around cars, and the werewolf's trying to find her, and then finally she makes a break for the uh for the elevator in the parkade to go, and uh, she gets in the elevator, the wolf's running across across the cartops.
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It's really good, right?
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It's coming after her.
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She gets in the elevator, door closes, wolf's trying to get in, elevator starts to move, and it sticks right in the center of the two floors, right?
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So she's in the elevator, doors opened, maybe a foot, right?
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So she can see both floors, and the wolf's like trying to on the bottom floor, trying to get in there and get her, right?
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But she's in the corner, can't get her.
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So then uh all of a sudden it stops, and then she is this moment of you know, this this tension, and she looks, and when she looks down, right, into the little hole, into the hole for the bottom floor.
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All you see is the door swinging closed to the stairwell.
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Like, oh shit.
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Yeah, wolf's coming in the top end because it fits, but that was an intense scene, very well written.
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I'd never seen anything like that in a werewolf movie before, right?
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Very creative, very intense for that whole elevator stock halfway.
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Wolf goes up the stairs, and you know, it's like bull crap, right?
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Yeah, but then later in the movie, uh, you know, at the end and the climax of everything, and this girl, she's fighting with this wolf, and this and the and the wolf's like, ah, and it yells at her.
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It's up on this because she hurts the wolf with fire or something, and it's it's up in these statues near the ceiling, and it yells at her, calls her a the wolf calls her a bitch, and it gives her the finger.
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And like, you just ruined it.
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Like ruined it.
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What the hell you turned it into a chick click, right?
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Oh man, you had it, and then you lost it.
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Yeah, the female wolf, and it just I'm like, uh, why did you do that?
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It's such good writing up to that point, right?
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It's really funny.
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Like, I would have hated, I would have if I was in the boardroom, it's you know, with writers and they're like, Yeah, let's make the wolf call her a bitch in a girl's voice, and then give her the finger at the end.
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That would be hilarious.
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Yeah, that's terrible.
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That's that's not very good.
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No, so you can make a good werewolf movie very bad by doing something like that, right?
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Yeah, completely broke from what a werewolf origin kind of you know is.
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So there's good and there's bad when it comes to these movies, but again, I think it what it boils down to is the the story can be a little softer, like ginger snaps.
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Right?
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It's kind of a soft.
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Have you seen ginger snaps?
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No, but I know the cookie.
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I had a brownie once.
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It's these two young girls.
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Uh, one of the their sisters, the popular one, gets bitten by a werewolf, but slowly spirals into becoming a full-out werewolf.
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Great werewolf optically in the movie.
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The story was a little soft, but because the wolf was good, it carried the movie.
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The wolf was terrifying looking, so it carried the movie, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, this there's there's lots of good and bad, but uh a bad wolf can make or break your movie.
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That's true, that's true.
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And and you know, sometimes um sometimes it maybe goes beyond a good or a bad wolf.
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Like I can think of a recent example of this.
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Um, I don't know if you watched the show Wednesday on uh Netflix.
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No, I saw it advertised, I haven't watched it though.
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So basically it's Wednesday Adams from the Adams family, and it's her, you know, away at the the school or whatever she goes to.
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And her friends are all these, like they're all different, you know, kind of weirdos, and one girl's like a werewolf.
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And then uh there's like a killer uh throughout the show, and it it turns out it's it's that one of the guys is is turning into like a werewolf and going out and attacking people and stuff.
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And in the show, it's uh it's like a CGI werewolf, right?
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So it's not like it doesn't look real, but it's also kind of neat.
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It's it's a little cartoony, it's a little weird because it it's like a Tim Burton.
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The whole show is Tim Burton.
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Like if you know Tim Burton, Beetlejuice, you know, Edward Scissor hands, all that stuff.
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Any, yeah, anything Johnny Depp.
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Yeah, any Johnny Depp.
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Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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You know, the the demon barber of Fleet Street, you know.
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You know, so uh so anyway, so that's Wednesday, and and yeah, they got the werewolf character, and it's it's actually a really good character, and there's multiple scenes you're like, holy shit, like whoa, like that was intense, you know.
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Um so that's that's kind of like a a fun kind of but also equally really violent in a weird cartoony world kind of way, werewolf.
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Um, but I also liked um you know, they had the werewolf in uh um true blood, right?
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The guy that I think his character was Al C and he he they brought him in, he he was aware, I think is how they referred to him, you know, because they had the vampires and they had the bring in the the wolf.
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Okay, that was pretty cool.
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You know, we saw him over there.
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They had the werewolf in uh Twilight, right?
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That that one kid that all the girls liked, you know, they thought he was hot.
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He was in it too.
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Yeah, no, um, but uh you know, kind of some other werewolves are you know coming to my mind, and obviously this is all random.
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Um, I don't know if you remember from I think it was like the late 80s, early 90s, there was a video game called Rampage.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Rampage, it was in the arcade, or they had it on Genesis, and one of the characters was the werewolf, and he was like massive.
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He was like the oversized werewolf that would destroy the buildings.
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He was pretty cool.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They had the the werewolf, the reptile, and the the ape or something.
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Yeah, yeah, the ape.
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Yeah, that was a good one.
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But you know, I was gonna tell you is one of my um favorite movies growing up was the movie Wolf with Jack Nicholson.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I don't know if you remember this movie, but it was basically he's like some some sort of business executive schmuck, something like that.
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And I I think somehow it's like he he gets like a flat tire or he hits something.
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It was something weird like that, and he goes out to check the car, and then he gets randomly bit by this wolf in like the middle of nowhere.
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And the whole movie is him steadily kind of like turning into the wolf, and like like he's got this uh nemesis guy that he's kind of battling against, this other business guy, and that guy is kind of like weirdly turning into a wolf at the same time, and then they're battling each other, and yeah, they had like like superhuman strength, and they could like jump really high and weird stuff like that.
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But I remember um there was this one scene in particular in that movie where they're in the men's room and they're at the urinals, right?
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And Nicholson's talking to him, and the other guy's you know over there chirping in his ear, and you can tell he's just pissing off Nicholson.
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And at one point, Nicholson turns his whole body and he starts pissing on the guy's shoe.
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The guy's like, Oh, he's like, What are you doing?
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You know, and he's like, Mark in my territory.
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That's Jack Nicholson, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Great movie, man.
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And and you know, I would say too, I can't remember if this was before Batman Returns, but somewhere around that same era, and obviously Michelle Pfeiffer was in this, and she was in Batman Returns as Catwoman.
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And uh, and and she it by the end of this movie, you could tell that she was like turning into a wolf too, because she had been hooking up with Jack, you know, and Jack at the end of it, he's like full wolf, like he's he's left all together, he's out in the woods somewhere, but great movie.
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I haven't watched it in a probably a decade and two decades, probably almost.
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So I'm gonna have to go back and watch that one.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think wolf.
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Yeah, I I think that you know, there's a lot of popularity with the with the werewolf um occult, I guess we can call it, uh, in our society.
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I don't know how much this generation likes it.
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I know zombie movies have become really, really popular again, but they're so much easier than werewolf movies.
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They are, they are.
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You know that that kind of brings up a good point right there, is that I think what we're saying is for a director out there, maybe maybe the next Jordan Peel movie or something.
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Let's bring back the werewolf and let's make it good.
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Like, I gotta say, I actually just watched uh Jordan Peel's um get out for the first time the other night.
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That was good, intense.
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Yeah, whoo! Yeah, he could do the werewolf, he could totally bring that back, you know.
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Yeah, he does a good job.
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Uh, there was that one, and then he did uh us or something like that as well.
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Yeah, there's another one called uh I think it's called Nope.
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I gotta watch that one too.
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That one was good.
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I watched that one a couple times.
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Did you?
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Yeah, it's it's pretty funny.
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It's a good movie, it's scary but funny too.
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So um, it's like how how how black people would deal with aliens kind of thing.
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Nope.
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You know, where a white person would be like just going to investigate everything and it's like nope.
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So okay, so wait a minute.
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So so let's kind of go back to pop culture a minute, though, for the werewolf.
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Um so the werewolf is known for it's the guy that turns into the werewolf on the full moon, right?
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You gotta have the full moon, it's gotta be clear.
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We can't have any clouds, so that's gonna screw it up, right?
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He's only gonna go halfway.
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Um, but then you also have things like the silver bullet, right?
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Like you gotta shoot him with a silver bullet.
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That's the only thing that'll that'll kill the werewolf.
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You know, I don't know if you know the origination of that.
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I don't I don't think I do, believe it or not.
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I don't know either where where the where that would have originated from.
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I can find out.
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Yeah, like I wonder if if somebody, you know, maybe something like this comes from Europe.
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You know, that there could be some weird origination like that with silver, because you know, like even going back in time back to the uh the vampire stuff, I mean there's a lot of like ancient graves where they've like decapitated the person, they've driven the stake through the heart, you know, like they legitimately were like this person's a damn vamp and they are not coming back.
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So maybe that's where the silver bullet comes from.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it's weird.
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They would have to be, yeah.
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I can't think of anything else that's supposed to kill werewolves.
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The silver bullet kills werewolves rule, uh, is likely a modern pop culture fixture built on an older, broader folklore idea that silver could harm witches, enhanced people, and certain supernatural beings.
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It was not a standard feature of mid evil or early modern werewolf legends.
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Silver already had a reputation as a purifying or anti-magic metal in alchemy and astrology.
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It was linked to the moon.
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In European folk belief, it was used against the evil eye, curses, and being thought immune to ordinary weapons.
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Early examples are usually not werewolves.
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Scottish accounts from 17th and 18th centuries describe supposedly invulnerable outlaws or diabolic figures shot with silver button cut from a coat.
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Well, the brothers, yeah.
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The brothers grim tail, the two brothers, has a bulletproof witch killed by silver buttons fired from a gun.
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That's interesting.
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You know, I I picture the Scottish shooting like the uh like the the Keebler elves with like like some silver.
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Hey I'm 90, you know, like 93 Celtic over here.
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Come on.
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Hey, don't get enraged over there, you mad, Scott.
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Calm down, leprechaun.
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So maybe let's dive into the top 10 reasons.
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So I asked AI to theorize that werewolves were real, right?
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How could that be possible?
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So let's look at it from a scientific perspective.
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Okay.
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An engineered or viral genetic switch, a virus, parasite, or deliberate gene edit could insert a regulatory cascade that when triggered by moonlight linked by hormones, stress, or chemical signals, activates dormant development pathways.
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The result would be accelerated expression of hair, muscle, claw, and uh detention genes.
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Uh detention gene already present in the human genome rather than creation of wholly new tissue from nothing.
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So you're telling me there's a chance.
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Telling you there's a chance scientifically.
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Yes, a virus parasite or deliberate gene edit, which is interesting because what is something medical science is always trying to do manipulate our genetic code.
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Yeah, this is true, and and you know, I can think of um, you know, like some of those like freak shows from like the last century, you know, like they'd always have like the guy that's like full hair, like on his face and everything, you know.
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It's it's like cousin it, you know, and like could there could there be some really odd stuff out there?
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I don't know.
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I I suppose so, you know.
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Or what is that disorder called?
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I can't remember, where every inch of your body is covered in hair.
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God, I don't know.
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I I don't know what it is, but that would be awful.
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Yeah, that is actually a thing.
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I've seen, I think I saw some two guys on like Dr.
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Phil or something who had it.
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It's like every square inch of your body is man, how do you like would you even bother trying to keep up with it?
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I mean, at that point you're kind of like a dog, like you need somebody to like shave you every month, right?
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To like trim all that, or like a sheep, you know, or otherwise, I mean you're just gonna like die of heat stroke, right?
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Yeah, I well, I would definitely be.
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Moving somewhere cold.
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Yeah.
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Imagine living in Florida or something like Arizona or something.
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Well, you know, that's probably where somebody like that would turn up, is like like we were just saying, like somewhere like Las Vegas, you know, you'd have the wolf man that lives there, and you know, it's dry and hot half the time.
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Um three quarters of the time.
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It's a lot of shampoo, man.
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It's a lot of shampoo.
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A lot of shampoo, a lot of vacuuming, also, a lot of vacuuming and a lot of brushing.
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You know.
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Uh number two would be extreme but incomplete.
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Uh the camera kind of there we go.
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My camera was acting very bad.
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Instead of becoming a wolf, the person undergoes a partial reversible change, heightened uh heightened aggression, temporary uh hyper hyperocosis, okay, enlarged canines, stronger jaw muscul muscles, and altered gait, gut.
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Gate, yeah, it's probably the gate.
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Yeah, the way they walk.
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Oh, okay.
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Uh this stays closer to known conditions such as uh con congestinal hypertosis, not good with medical terms, or hormone-driven by changes scale up dramatically by unknown by an unknown trigger.
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I mean, that would doesn't sound as scientifically possible as the first one.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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You know, I mean, you know, I think about like think of like somebody like Andre the Giant, right?
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The the gigantism.
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You do see that from time to time, where these people have like their bones are just bigger, right?
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They're like bigger than everybody else, and and the hormones are what drive a lot of that.
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You know, you think about it, could you have hormones that drive you more towards like the wolf or the the dog?
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I suppose you you probably could in some some way, you know.
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Like some sort of a de-evolutionary condition, yeah, maybe or an evolutionary condition, I guess.
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But but you know, at the same time, like a dog or a wolf is very different from a person, and that you know, they don't have the hands like we do to use the hands, they use their mouth for everything, right?
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:51.039
So you'd almost have to change the way that you you're physiologically thinking about uh using your hands to instead just using your mouth for everything.
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You know?
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Well, that'd be kind of weird.
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That would be awful.
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That would be awful.
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I look at my cat sometimes and I wonder that what it would be like to have to do everything with your face.
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Yep, you can't wipe your butt, you gotta lick your butt.
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That's how it works with the cat.
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I'd rather have a dirty butt.
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Uh symbiotic or parasitic organism, a specialized microbe, fungi, or internal symbiote, uh symbiote could live dormant in a host and under certain conditions uh secrete growth factors, pigment, and structural proteins, the tr the transformation in quotations would be symbiont, rapidly re-modeling surface tissue and behavior while the host's core skeleton remains largely human.
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.160
That's kind of a cool idea.
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Um, that's that's an interesting thought.
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.799
You know, personal story.
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I got bit by a spider at some point, right?
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I knew it, Spider-Man.
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:08.079
Say just your neighborhood Spider-Man, guys.
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:14.319
Um, no, but I apparently I got bit by a spider at some point on my forearm.
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I don't know when it happened.
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Maybe it's I was asleep, maybe it was on my shirt, who knows, right?
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And I would have this spot on my arm that whenever I would get like really hot or like clammy or whatever, it would like puff up.
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And it was like weird.
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It was like three like like kind of like bumps that would kind of come out of nowhere, you know?
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And I remember I was at the uh dermatologist at one point asking them about this.
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I'm like, what is the deal with this?
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Like, is that what happened here?
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Was this a spider bite?
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They're like, Yeah, it's probably spider venom.
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I was like, okay.
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.559
I'm like, so so what actually happened?
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And they're like, so basically it bit you, and the toxins are still in your arm, and maybe they break down over time, maybe not, and you just sort of like live with them.
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So it's kind of like they reactivate every once in a while.
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And yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shoot a website, right?
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.000
So it was in my forearm, yeah.
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And so you you know, like I'd be like, you know, cuddling with my wife or something, and I'd be like, oh, spider bites flaring up, and she'd be like, trying to get away from it, you know.
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:20.559
Just kiss it, just kiss it.
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.319
Just give it a kiss, spider bite.
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:24.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:36.160
So, anyway, so so to say that you couldn't have you know some sort of protein or something in your body that maybe something triggers it from time to time, you know.
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.079
Like you said, the moonlight, right?
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:45.440
You get that really bright moonlight that maybe it triggers something in that, and then it it flares up.
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I I don't know, you know.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.640
Kind of reminds me a little bit of that show, uh The Last of Us.
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.160
Have you ever seen that?
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.079
No, I haven't seen that one.
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.880
It's like The Walking Dead, but mushrooms cause it fungi, right?
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.279
So the fungi get into the human body and kind of possess it.
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.839
Like they like the certain there's a certain mushroom that does that to uh bugs, I think.
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Like possesses the bug and controls the bug's body.
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.599
Yeah, it turns them into like a zombie, doesn't it?
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.559
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
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So interesting.
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:28.880
Like the bug could be like completely hollow inside and stuff like that, like the insides have been eaten and stuff with the plant still controlling it.
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It's crazy.
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.119
Yeah, you know, that's really weird.
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I don't know if you've ever seen this as a bit of a sidebar.
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Have you ever seen those videos where they'll take like a praying mantis and they know it's got a parasite in it?
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Yeah, and they'll take it with some tweezers and hold it in the water, and that damn parasite that comes out's like four feet long.
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.759
Oh god, like it's been in this praying mantis the whole time.
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You imagine how much of a relief that must be for the praying mantis?
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Oh my gosh.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Lord, got that thing out finally.
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.960
Gosh, I'm hungry, right?
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.680
Oh, I've seen those, yeah.
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Um stored biological reserves and rapid remodeling.
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The body could maintain extra collagen, uh, creatine precursors, calcium, and stem cell niches on trigger uh ostecholast uh ostocolastis uh and obstablastis.
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:48.880
Sounds like something from uh Transformers, uh would reshape bone, jaw, hands, and spine while uh fossilizing the uh produced dense fur.
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:53.599
Okay.
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.759
Yeah, that's that's kind of a weird one.
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.400
So okay, so what about this?
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:05.359
So when the full moon comes out, the wolf comes out, right?
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.240
It's not just the hair, it's not just the claws.
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.359
Uh the werewolf gets bigger, right?
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.640
It's like bigger than the guy, like significantly.
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.759
Like, what would that mean for like the bones and everything, you know?
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:25.759
Like I uh you'd have to grow two or three feet taller.
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.400
Yeah, I guess.
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:39.119
Well, it did mention the spine, it doesn't necessarily mean that the I guess the spine could separate a little bit further, or so that would have to be something like that because your legs aren't gonna grow, right?
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:46.319
I I don't know, maybe they do a little bit, but your gait, your you know, your walking gait is different if you're a wolf.
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:59.839
Um you know, earlier when I was talking about Skinwalker Ranch, you know, they've they've got a lot of these local like tribal people that they claim to have seen, you know, skinwalkers at different times.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.240
And there's a few of them that I mean they they full-blown like panic when they see them.
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:09.839
And it's like, yeah, you know, this thing's like a six to seven foot tall wolf man.
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.319
It's like, uh what?
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:27.599
And you know, like the the weird thing with with Skinwalker Ranch is that you know, the the Skinwalker, the wolf man, isn't like uh like a regular man that turns into the wolf, you know, like it's not like Dr.
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:28.640
Jekyll, Mr.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.440
Hyde.
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:48.880
It's more so like he's from like an overlapping world, like the upside down, and he walks through that portal, and all of a sudden you got you know six to seven foot tall wolf man skinwalker right there, you know, out with you in the in the woods in the middle of nowhere in Utah.
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.279
Middle of Utah.
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.640
It's gotta be some some random place like that, eh?
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:56.400
Oh god, yeah.
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:58.240
Ohio.
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.759
Yeah, I mean he's he's not showing up, you know, to like the the mall, you know.
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.359
He's he's out there like in this obscure property.
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:18.240
You know, some of these poor farmers, these these poor people, you know, they're out there, they're they're legitimately like the poorest people ever, and they're just like, we're just trying to farm.
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:23.519
And it's like now you now you're dealing with the skinwalker, the six to seven foot tall wolf man.
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:24.160
Good luck.
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:30.880
Yeah, it's not walking downtown Miami or something like that, you know, bugging the homeless or no.
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:39.680
Under under the the uh under the Las Vegas streets where all those uh underground people live or anything, right?
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:48.079
But but you know, if you think about it, like if if the werewolf grows with the moonlight, then you would have to think.
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.880
I mean, this dude would split all of his clothes.
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.720
I mean, what what does he come back to when he shrinks back down?
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:56.480
You know what I mean?
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.720
Everything's hanging out.
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.519
I mean, uh good luck keeping your boxers on at that point.
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.079
Well, the Hulk deals with it all the time, right?
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.200
Great, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:08.079
The Hulk, right?
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.359
Yeah, Bruce Banner.
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:10.640
I mean, poor guy.
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:20.400
Here's an interesting one: non-human intelligence using human hosts or mimics, aliens.
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.400
I'm not saying it's aliens.
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.759
Okay, okay, like a good alien story, okay.
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:55.279
Manipulating manipulating human DNA, alien engineering or unknown organisms could wear a human appearance most of the time and shift to a more bestial form, or could introduce an appearance of a transformation in observ uh in observes through toxins or suggestions like werewolf would not be a transformed human.
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.640
Be like a hybrid, right?
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:00.319
Oh, that's wild.
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:01.920
Yeah, you know what that makes me think of.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.799
Remember that movie The Fly from like the 80s?
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:05.920
Yeah, what's his name?
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.039
From Jurassic Park, right?
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.119
Uh yeah, Jeff Goldblum, right?
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.639
It's it's kind of like the fly, right?
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:20.639
It's like, you know, we're gonna put you in this machine and we're gonna put a wolf in here with you, and we're gonna see what comes back out.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:22.960
That's kind of wild.
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:36.639
Uh perceptual, perceptual, I can't even pronounce perceptual and cultural overlay on real anomalies, rare medical events.
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.559
So we kind of touched on that a little bit already.
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:50.559
People born with like uh uh full every square inch of their body covered in hair or larger than normal canine teeth, things like that.
00:34:50.800 --> 00:35:04.000
So just biological kind of um deformities, but that's more of a just a birth defect than a any kind of werewolf lore.
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:29.199
Yeah, that could be like you know, your house was too close to the garbage dump, or you live by that city where they lit the trash on fire and it's still on fire, and now the people are weird, or you know, you got like the lead pipes, you know, the paint chips, um the the nuclear fallout, um yeesh, Chernobyl.
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:36.079
I mean, any of those um any of those things could be playing into that.
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:36.800
I don't know.
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.679
Um so let me ask you this.
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.360
What do you think fascinates people about werewolf lore?
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:54.480
Well, what is it about uh the werewolf kind of folklore that that is appealing to people?
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.000
Hmm, that's a good question.
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.360
You know, I I think when you think about the wolf, you first you gotta go back to a wolf, right?
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:05.679
Like, like what is what is a wolf?
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.199
Like, what does a wolf represent?
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:16.559
You know, it's like this wild creature that's also kind of majestic, you know, like howls at the moon in a group.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.599
It does in everything in a in a pack.
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.719
What here's yeah, well, here's the thing about wolves.
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.079
Sorry to cut you off.
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:34.639
Extremely, and you kind of touched on extremely intelligent, powerful animals grow to be very large in the wild.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.519
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.119
Very large wolves.
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.719
Um, and they're very formidable, also, right?
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:52.400
You know, maybe that's part of the allure of the werewolf, is that it's this formidable uh kind of cryptozoology.
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.480
You don't really know what you're dealing with here.
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:55.599
Is it a man?
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.039
Is it a wolf?
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.599
Does it take on sort of those characteristics of the wolf?
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:06.719
Kind of this, you know, this survivability, right?
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:14.079
Like you're not gonna well, I say you're not gonna kill the wolf, but I mean, obviously, they've tried to do that different times in history.
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.360
But um, you know, wolves are very resilient overall.
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:26.639
Um, think about what the wolf did to uh I can't remember what the breed of wolf was that they reintroduced to Yellowstone Park.
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:29.599
That might have been a gray wolf.
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:30.719
Was that a gray wolf?
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.960
I think it was like a timber wolf or something.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:45.760
Yeah, they they reintroduced this species of wolf back into the ecosystem of Yellowstone Park, and it immediately revived the entire ecosystem.
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:56.880
The ri even to the rivers flowing deeper and and stronger, and like everything flourished in the ecosystem just by reintroducing uh this animal.
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:06.320
Yeah, you know, you you gotta have those uh those you well, there's an entire food chain of predators, right?
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.920
And if you don't have certain ones, then other things you know take over.
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:19.039
Um, for example, you know, you'd have probably a heck of a lot more deer or bison or moose, you know.
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:26.000
But you you have wolves back in in play, and you know, that kind of brings brings back order.
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:31.360
You know, you have too much of any particular species.
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.199
I mean, it kind of I think it throws everything off, you know.
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:36.800
I'm looking into it right now.
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:38.960
What what kind of wolf it was?
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.360
Uh I remember reading about it.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:56.239
Uh it was the the gray wolf, yes, the canine lupus uh from Western Canada, mainly mainly from Alberta and British Columbia, introduced uh, including Jasper, blah blah blah.
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:12.079
Uh the return is widely described as triggering a uh trophic cascade, trophic cascade through the scale through the scale of the effect is the um the scale is debated on what the effect was.
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:24.159
Uh after wolves disappeared, elk numbers rose, like you were saying, and heavily uh browned yellow willow, aspen, and cottonwood, especially along stems.
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:32.320
Uh, with wolves back, the elk density fell, and elks spent less time feeding in open uh areas.
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.679
So that kind of helped the ecosystem.
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:49.599
So just by doing that, uh controlling the vegetarian uh population of Yellowstone Park helped boost the the ecosystem, the rivers, everything.
00:39:49.840 --> 00:40:09.440
Um it even helped grizzly bears thrive, it says really, yeah, everything it helped the entire ecosystem just reintroducing, taking the gray wolf from Canada, introducing it to Yellowstone Park, and turn the whole ecosystem around.
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.719
You know, I I think what you're alluding to is that if anyone's gonna fix it, it's the Canadians.
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:15.599
Exactly.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.440
That's all I'm saying, right?
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:18.559
That's all I'm saying.
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.079
Sure isn't coming from the US, that's for sure.
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.159
Even our animals are better.
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:24.880
That's what I'm saying.
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.559
The animals are better.
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.559
They're here to help, eh?
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.119
Wait till we start dropping moose on your ass.
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.159
Your whole economy's gonna be better.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:36.639
Here's a moose.
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.119
The whole US debt is gone.
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:41.599
Solve your problems.
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.159
Yep.
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.119
Squash over some moot moose sausage.
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:47.760
That's really funny.
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:58.239
Yeah, that's that's to lead back to the uh the value, the the intelligence of the wolf.
00:40:59.039 --> 00:40:59.360
Right?
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:07.119
And I think that's why maybe the the and I I also think that there's maybe an aspect of of what if, right?
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.360
What if why isn't it possible scientifically?
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:16.239
Like you you talked about um uh what was it again?
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.480
Uh the giant wolves there, the uh dire wolf, dire wolves, right?
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:28.960
From like we're talking like the wolves that you saw the orcs riding on, like Lord of the Rings and stuff like that, dire wolves, massive.
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:36.079
Yeah, so it gets people thinking, what if it almost in the same vein of as like uh Bigfoot or Sasquatch?
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.840
Why isn't it possible?
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.559
I don't see why not.
00:41:40.719 --> 00:42:00.079
Yeah, you know what's funny is that I've always had this belief like we get kind of caught up in our daily routine and lives, and we sort of like assume we know everything, and all it takes is going out to the absolute middle of nowhere where there's no people, and you're just kind of like, Whoa, this is a little intimidating.
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.320
I'm out here and there's no one here.
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.159
It's like maybe I don't know everything, you know.
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.320
Maybe I couldn't survive, yeah.
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.239
Yeah, maybe I wouldn't survive out here.
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:10.719
I don't know.
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:12.480
This is kind of weird, you know.
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.159
Not digging it.
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:32.400
Yeah, so but I I think that there is that fascination with it of the and not just the werewolf, but like I said, the the whole occult, the the the horror genre, so to speak, is like well, we talk about good and evil in our everyday lives.
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:39.760
We know that good and evil exists because we see good and evil every day, just in in ourselves, right?
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:49.039
So there's a lot of I think a lot of fantasy of a manifestation of evil in the in that kind of uh that kind of a way.
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:55.199
But you know that that kind of brings up a good point, is is the werewolf inherently evil?
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.199
I was thinking that as I was saying it.
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.280
I was like, could you really say evil though?
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:07.840
Because like is a dire wolf or a gray wolf that's eating an elk, is that evil, or is it just doing what a wolf does?
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.159
Yeah, that's that that's exactly it.
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:11.440
It's doing what a wolf does.
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.199
What else is a wolf supposed to do?
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.920
Is it not supposed to eat that elk?
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.079
No eat a plant.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.280
Eat snake berries, come on.
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:33.039
Yeah, so uh okay, so here's another thought I was just having is that when you think about werewolves and popular culture, right?
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:41.280
And you think about some of these other things like like a vampire or you know, the creature from the black lagoon or or whatever, right?
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:53.519
Like I feel like like we got a lot, we got a lot of vampire, we got a lot of vamps, you know, we got a lot of vamps, we got that covered, a lot of vamp movies, shows, you name it.
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.440
There really isn't a lot of just straight werewolf content.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.559
Right?
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.719
Like, like it's it's kind of weird.
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:09.920
It's it's almost like like in in cult our in our pop culture, it's always sort of paired up.
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:24.559
It's like, well, you know, we brought you the vamps, so we also got a werewolf on the show, and you're like, ah, you know, and it's it's like, you know, maybe what I want to see is maybe I want the straight up, you know, no holds bar werewolf movie.
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.079
Like, I don't I don't need the vamps.
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:30.000
I don't I don't need the mummy and the creature from the black lagoon, all these other guys.
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.239
I just want I just want the wolves.
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:43.679
Yeah, well, I mean, I think because it's like I said, a a wolf movie or even show, I think it's harder than anything else.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:44.639
You think so?
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:52.639
I think it's harder because if if again, like I said, if the wolf sucks, it doesn't matter what the story is, right?
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.840
Yeah, zombie movies are very different.
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:04.719
It's not hard to dress up a bunch of extras and to look like the undead, and you don't even need a ton of special effects for stuff like that, right?
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:06.000
It's true, yep.
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:13.920
So it's it's very simple to do in terms, you know, in relation to making a a CG werewolf look convincing.
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:21.920
Um I I would guess that it's probably far easier to do a zombie movie than it is a werewolf movie.
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.039
That's probably why you don't you don't get as many as you do when it comes to zombies, right?
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:28.639
Yeah, that could be.
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:29.519
That could be.
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.320
You know, uh, I think though about like something like uh like Game of Thrones, right?
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:38.719
Like Game of Thrones had direwolves, but they never really had a werewolf, right?
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:49.920
And they did have the zombies, you know, the army of the dead that came from the north, and boy, were they intimidating and scary as hell when they were coming at you going full blast.
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:56.400
You know, like it couldn't couldn't they do something kind of similar with like a like a werewolf type of show?
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:06.960
And and you know, it something else too is that when I think about most of these shows that have werewolves or references to a werewolf, it's always like a loner.
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.079
You ever notice that?
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:09.280
It's always a loner.
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:23.280
But the reality is that wolves are not loners, like that they they do things as a group, so you know it's it's almost like there's a there's an opportunity here for something around werewolves as a group.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:36.559
You know why I think that is is because there is no leading character werewolf, there's no Dracula to the werewolf uh theme, right?
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.800
It's always just werewolves.
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:53.360
Um there's no like even like something like mummies, you could you could make up an ancient Egypt character, and you know, but there there is no werewolf dra version of Dracula, so to speak.
00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:00.960
I mean we did see the um uh uh under what is it uh underworld?
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.639
Is it underworld movies?
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:03.280
Is that there?
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.639
With vampires versus the werewolves, I think so.
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:07.599
I think so, yeah.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:20.079
Yeah, those were good, but they tried to introduce like a lead werewolf type character, uh Lucian or something like that, I think his name was, which is a total werewolf type name, right?
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:32.000
Lucian, of course, it'd be something like that, but um but as those movies progressed, the werewolves got like worse and worse looking.
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:33.840
The CG got worse and worse.
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.400
I think it's because they just gave us too much, right?
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.159
Like you they're just showing.
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.559
Oh, I think that part of the mystique of a werewolf type uh thing is the mystique, right?
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:53.840
The yeah, the looking like when you're like, for example, silver go back to the movie Silver Bullet I mentioned earlier, right?
00:47:54.159 --> 00:48:02.159
You're seeing through the wolves' eyes through the leaves in a bush while it's watching somebody or something, and you can hear the breathing and that kind of stuff, right?
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.440
And it adds that mystique to what does this wolf look like?
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.079
And you don't see it until the last five minutes of the movie.
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:12.639
You see glimpses of it here and there, right?
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.840
But they tease you with it here and there, but there's that mystique.
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.800
But I think when they just full-fledged shove it in your face for the whole movie, it's kind of like too much of it now.
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:23.920
That's a good point.
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:26.960
It's just like it's like bad CGI.
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:35.840
It's it's kind of like when you when you when you're making like a soup and you put in too much of one ingredient and it just ruins the whole thing.
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.639
That that's that's kind of I think like what you're saying.
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:48.639
It's it's like they over they overkill it when they really don't need to, you know, just just make it kind of elusive and kind of hard to put your finger on it, you know.
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.039
Like going back to that movie Wolf with Jack Nicholson, that's kind of how that was.
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.960
It was it's sort of like, is he actually turning into a wolf, or like what's going on here?
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:08.000
You you don't really know until the very end of the movie where it's like, yeah, he did turn into a full-blown wolf, you know.
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:14.239
But you know, a good director, uh, like less is more, right?
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.000
Yeah, a good director.
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:17.599
Did you see signs?
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.280
Yes, I did see signs.
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.840
Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix.
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.920
Fantastic.
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:32.719
When they're sitting in the living room with their tinfoil hats on, or he's out in the cornfield in a flashlight, and all you see is a little hand move.
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.119
That's why you don't see a full alien or anything like that.
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.159
You say little hand move in the dark, you're like, right?
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And then he runs and he's scared, and he's or when they come outside and they're running around the house because something's you know out on the porch, and as but you don't see anything.
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:49.440
It's like, oh, I jumped over the roof or something, whatever, right?
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Like blah blah blah.
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:59.679
It's like that is good storytelling because they're not there's that, like you said, elusiveness, right?
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:06.400
There's that it's not in your face, you don't see it, you want to see it, but they're they're gonna give you just a little bit, right?
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.960
But not enough, you know, it's enough to make a like what was that?
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.119
But you don't actually see an alien until the last five minutes of the movie.
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.039
It's it's really scarier when you don't see it, you know.
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.199
Like, I think a good example of this is the X-Files, right?
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:34.719
Like the X-files are very much so like that, where it's like, you know, every episode starts off with some crazy event or something happens, or some death, or whatever.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.760
And then, you know, they're brought in to like investigate.
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And while they're investigating, there's usually, you know, a couple more deaths, or you know, something kind of happens along the lines, but you you hardly ever see whatever the thing is directly, if not for just a little snippet here or there in the episode.
00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:03.039
Most of it's kind of like the fear of like we you can't quite put your finger on what the hell is going on here, and you can't really figure it out, you know.
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:10.159
Is it just me, or is the X Files just um the Twilight Zone with main characters?
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:17.360
Yeah, and don't don't don't you ruin the X Files for me, Rob.
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:18.400
Don't don't do it.
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This is favorite shows, don't do it.
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.800
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just like the next generation version of um of the Twilight Zone, right?
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:29.360
Yeah, yeah.
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Just imagine Mulder going, there's something on the wing.
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There's something on the wing.
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Submitted for your approval.
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.480
I gotta say though, I personally love the X Files.
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.480
I yeah, I used to like it too.
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:51.360
I don't think I've actually watched every single episode, but I remember watching it back in the 90s.
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:51.920
Yeah.
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Back when Fox was popular at its peak.
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:55.360
There you go.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:56.159
There you go.
00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:02.159
But you you know, I think at the end of the day, there's a lot of opportunity for the werewolf, right?
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:10.480
Like, I'm I mean, I I feel like we've really kind of uh like the the whole vamp story is sort of like a dead horse, so we just keep on beating it, you know.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.960
And it's like I don't know, I don't know how many more Vamp movies we need, you know.
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.159
Yeah, my favorite is the zombie movies.
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.159
Keep doing those, don't stop doing those.
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.400
I've I've had enough of vampires, yeah.
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.199
They've they've tried they've added too much romance to the whole vampire thing, right?
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.840
Um, it's a vampire stuff's not even doesn't even feel like it's for men anymore.
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.000
Um, they feel like chick movies, but they're not for men anymore, yeah.
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.440
They're not for men anymore, right?
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.360
Like they're like teenage love novels.
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.480
I can't take it.
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.840
Yeah, no, after twilight, that was it, right?
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:44.960
It's over.
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.440
Yeah, yeah, but uh you know, werewolves.
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:48.159
I I agree.
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:59.679
I think that you know, if someone was smart out there and they really wanted to put a lot of money into making a good movie, maybe Netflix will do it or something because Netflix likes to make good movies nowadays, uh, big budget movies.
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:15.119
You know, maybe you create create that Dracula for the werewolf version, uh, you know, for werewolves, and and maybe create that character, maybe make an entire trilogy or or uh franchise around something like that.
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.440
They tried it with uh Underworld Underworld or whatever it's called, yeah.
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.760
You know, but they didn't stay consistent with a character.
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:34.079
And I think if you did that, just made it about, you know, get the vampires out of there, make it about this werewolf character, and you know, maybe it may have a little bit of uh like with Dracula, for example.
00:53:34.239 --> 00:54:01.039
When they Dracula is not as cut and dry as an evil character as you think when you when you actually watch like a a Dracula-based movie or or something, it there's there is there's layers to his personality, his character, where on some levels you you empathize or sympathize with him, uh, because his life is a is a tragedy at the same time, right?
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:10.159
Yeah, so there's layers to a character, and if you were to create a werewolf character with with layers, you might get somewhere, right?
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:23.519
Yeah, yeah, I I I think you know, to have a good show around it, you kind of have to kind of like I was saying earlier with a sequel, it's like you gotta you gotta bring the old forward.
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.480
You know, I I can think of the uh like a good analogy of this.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:32.400
I remember when um earlier in my career, you know, working in like call centers and things like that.
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:39.599
And in a call center, when somebody calls in, there could be like 20 pages of notes from this person, right?
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:50.079
And they always tell you, like, bring it all forward so that whoever looks at it after you doesn't need to read all 20 pages to figure out what the heck is going on here.
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.159
And I kind of feel like that's sort of like the same thing with the whole werewolf story, right?
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.760
Like it's like let's bring it forward, we'll tell you everything.
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.239
Basically, we'll we'll set the foundation.
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.119
Think of it like that.
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:06.960
We're gonna pour the foundation, episode one, and then ep two, it's gonna get a little crazy.
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:27.679
Like we're gonna take this thing in ways that you've never seen before, or you know, kind of introduce some parts of this thing that play on like an actual pack of wolves, or you know, like the jaw strength of this creature, or you know, the way that it hunts, or the way that it, you know, does this or that, right?
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:28.960
I feel like you could do that.
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:35.199
They could do it with a like one of my favorite shows all time was Supernatural.
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:36.719
Right?
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:38.800
I have you ever watched that, The Winchesters?
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.119
No, no, I heard of it, haven't seen it.
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.559
One of my favorite shows all time, fantastic show.
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:54.960
Um, dealt with all things supernatural, but uh, you know, a style like that, a drama, a little bit of comedy in there, sympathetic characters, right?
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.760
Uh, nothing evil is truly evil.
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:08.880
There's there's nuance to you know to their characters and why they do what they do, and you know, tragedy and and triumph and all kinds of things like that, right?
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.199
So like there's a vampire.
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:34.480
I think in one of the episodes, there's a vampire that uh a vampire clan they come across because they kill everything supernatural, and they come across this vampire clan that doesn't want to kill people and just drinks from blood banks, but they go in and want to kill the whole nest of vampires because they don't believe the vampires can be, you know, like so that there's you could do that kind of a thing, right?
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:39.440
Yeah, you can and that that's where you know character development.
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.079
You could, you know, you could really focus on that.
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.000
I think that there's there is an opportunity there.
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:45.280
I agree with you.
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:50.800
Yeah, I I like what you said about it is like is it inherently bad?
00:56:51.039 --> 00:57:09.119
Maybe not, you know, like you know, I I think in like in the movies we have up until now, it's it's usually like it's almost like the person's like a victim, and it's like, oh, yeah, oh no, you know, if the if the if the cloud's clear and it's uh you know, full moon, I'm I'm I'm gonna do it and I don't want to.
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:26.559
You know, maybe you flip that on its head and it's like, yeah, you know, I'm looking forward to the full moon, you know, like look we got a plan for this one, you know, it's about to get crazy, you know, whatever's going on, or you know, maybe you have like a like a dexter of werewolves, you know what I mean?
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.760
Like, like, yeah, he's got his schedule planned, you know.
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:35.039
Next Tuesday's a full moon, time for these guys over here to eat shit, you know what I mean?
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.840
Like, like that, that could be a great show.
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.679
That's supernatural, essentially.
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.880
So, but yeah, uh, let us know.
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:50.320
Do you do you have any uh any final thoughts on the episode?
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.239
As we approach Halloween, we are in October now.
00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:02.079
We are in October, and you know, I gotta say, in terms of Halloween, put putting my Halloween hat on here.
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:05.039
I don't know if I've ever gone out as a werewolf.
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.079
Um, I I personally I gotta think about putting on the masks.
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:16.239
I can't put on the mask and get all sweaty and just breathing my own sweat and recycled air like I can't can't do it, man.
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:21.920
So that's unfortunately that's one Halloween costume I'm probably never gonna get to is the werewolf.
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.159
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:25.840
I'm with you on that.
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.840
I gotta I I I I've been thinking about dressing up this year.
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:44.000
I I haven't dressed up in probably 10 years, but I do take my yeah, I do take my son, and you know, last time I dressed up, I was bouncing at the bars, and you know, you gotta wear costume when you're so I was I think it was Bane last time.
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:46.719
Well, that's a pretty pretty good one.
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:47.199
Okay.
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.880
So broke Batman's back that night and called it a called it a day, and retired.
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.679
Well, hey, you know, you know what I'm gonna do this year.
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.480
Um kind of going with the Wednesday theme.
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.960
Um, I I've I've been looking around.
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:11.599
I I was kind of back and forth between a couple different costumes, and I've I think I've sort of landed on I'm gonna be Gomez Adams and I'm gonna have my wife be Morticia.
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:14.800
I figure that'll be kind of fun.
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:15.280
Why not?
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:18.480
You know, it I I personally I really like Halloween.
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:19.199
I love it, man.
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:24.400
I I love like dressing up just completely ridiculous for the evening and uh living it up.
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:25.920
I love Halloween too.
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.199
I like I I'm not I'm not a big guy at dressing up.
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:43.519
Uh I don't mind it, but I just I like the season, I like the night, I like to take my son trick-or-treating, uh, you know, greeting the people while they're a lot of people are sitting out on their front lawns with a fire going and stuff like that as you're coming up to trick-or-treat.
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:51.599
And yeah, um actually, my father-in-law, my mom's uh on my wife's mom's side, there obviously uh she's remarried.
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.119
My wife's stepdad.
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.519
He is a huge Halloween guy.
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:56.480
It is his Christmas.
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:02.719
He decorates his house, becomes a monster, his whole house is a costume, right?
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:13.599
And he's like he's like six foot eight, six foot nine, so he wears his grim reaper outfit every year with this long like scythe that he made himself.
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:15.920
That's a little creepy.
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.800
He walks up and down the street all night reaching out to kids like this.
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.280
Whoa, whoa, that's pretty intense.
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:29.280
Yeah, you know, I gotta say that I think the uh man, the Halloween decorations, they have come a long way.
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:37.840
I'll tell you what, like, and and it's not just like these like crappy inflatables, but like, I mean, you go to a lot of stores now, like there's some pretty good stuff out there.
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.559
Like, we were randomly, I think we were at Marshall's.
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.880
This was like weeks ago, too, you know.
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.280
And I walked in, I was like, holy shit.
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.480
I'm like, what is that?
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.960
And it was like an entire Halloween section, and then it was awesome.
01:00:51.039 --> 01:01:08.079
I mean, like they had like pictures on the wall and like hands and you know, things that you hit the button and it starts cackling and laughing at you, you know, and like I was like, man, this is awesome! Like, I would love to I'd love to sometime just get like the fog machine and get all that stuff going.
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:09.599
I thought it was really cool.
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:24.480
Yeah, the the problem with that kind of stuff is you have to be attentive to it because you nowadays you can't just set up a really cool front yard full of all kinds of cool stuff because kids come along, they steal stuff, they break stuff, and you know snatch it.
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.639
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's too bad.
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.559
But anyways, this concludes our broadcast day.
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