The Second Amendment Wasn't About Hunting. A Former FBI Director Explains What It Was Actually For.

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Hello everyone, this is Lou Colombo.
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With me as always is Tom Fuentes, my co-host.
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We're here to talk about a myriad of topics which we think we're gonna find interesting.
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We're gonna give you our perspectives.
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Sometimes it's opinion, other times it's more factually driven.
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I want to encourage you never to be spoon-fed by any media outlet, including this one.
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I'd like you to go out and become your own investigator, so to speak, um, and and find out what's actually going on in this country and this world you're living in.
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I want to go right to Tom about this thing with Ilhan Omar.
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And um Tom is very well versed, having been a former assistant director of the FBI with an enormous amount of responsibility at any given time, whether it was leading the international operation for the FBI or the organized crime efforts of the FBI.
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He's been there, to say say the least, and he's very literate in the following.
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So, Tom, I want to ask you about the process necessary to employ in order for law enforcement to be able to go into an elected official's home, search it, and seize properties.
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And if the judge issues the order, they search.
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And that's what's happened in this case.
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We're talking about probable cause.
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Am I correct, Tom?
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They had to go in and provide, I would say, a substantial amount of probable cause before a judge would issue an order in order to search anyone's home.
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Is that basically the sum and substance of the process?
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I don't want to discuss this case too much, to be candid with you, because it's a work in progress.
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And unfortunately, my concern is it's been politicized.
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To me, it's very simple.
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If you lied or deceived the government in acquiring citizenship or access to the country, you need to be held accountable.
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If that lends itself to the stripping of citizenship and deportation, then that's just the way it is.
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It shouldn't cross a political line.
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Your ethnicity, your religious denomination, your lifestyle, or your culture.
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It's just about the law.
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And people in this country are having a very difficult time understanding immigration.
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It's not very gray.
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If you illegally access our country, you violate our border laws, you can be deported.
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We don't need an excuse.
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I don't think you are suddenly protected under the 26th Amendment.
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I think it's 26 Amendments we're up to now.
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25 are at least.
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Um you you just are deported summarily.
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And in this instance, I think what's fueled this problem for her, which by the way started started in the Biden administration.
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This wasn't kicked off by Trump.
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It started in Biden is the fact that she hasn't been shy about the less than dignified manner in which she's referenced our country.
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In fact, as an elected official, she spews anti-Semitism.
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As an elected official, she calls for the destruction of the state of Israel.
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Maybe you need to tone down your profile, and not just her, but a number of elected officials on both sides of the aisle, by the way.
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This isn't a bipartisan I should say it is a bipartisan issue.
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It's not a partisan issue.
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Both of them need to understand the damage you do when you irresponsibly spew statements that are inaccurate or inflammatory, which could tie itself back into the media.
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But I just wanted to brush over this very quickly.
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I don't want to do too much on this.
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It's an open active investigation.
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And based on who you listen to on any political side of the aisle or media outlet, it has a completely different spin.
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You know, they're trying to play this whole thing down, which I don't understand, to be very candid with you.
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It's a very simple exercise of seeking the truth.
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That's all there is to it.
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Tom, I I want to talk to you a little bit about the interruption of I would say support uh by Starlink.
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You know, unbeknownst to me, and it's pretty alarming, that Zelensky's efforts are pretty much predicated on his um acquiring access to Starlink.
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Tom, you're aware of that yourself, I'm assuming?
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And and your opinion as far as where that takes us?
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I mean, is that how he's prosecuting this war on the backs of others?
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He doesn't have the ability to prosecute it himself.
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You have other technical firms that uh support an administration and whatever they're trying to do.
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And in this case, Starlink is providing the communications for Ukraine to target places in Russia.
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And what Musk said was that the government didn't shut down Starlink or restrict their access.
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Starlink itself did because they were breaking the rules on how they were using it as an offensive weapon.
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And uh so, you know, Starlink, Musk shut it down or diminished it, I should say, so that it couldn't be used as much for offensive weaponry against Russia.
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And they warned uh Zelensky in the Ukraine, stop doing that, and they wouldn't listen.
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So they just went ahead and continued, and Starlink restricted them.
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You know, it's interesting, Thomas.
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It hasn't the president hasn't been shy, whether you like him, you don't like him, you agree or don't agree with him.
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He hasn't been shy about the fact that he's somewhat upset with Zelensky.
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You know, Zelensky's flexing his muscles, you know, and I almost feel like he's writing a check with his mouth.
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His body can't cash.
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Everyone else is cashing it for him.
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And I think the inclination today is to try to get Zelensky and Putin to a place where they're both going to save face and maybe bring this conflict to an end.
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I'm sure you're aware that apparently Melania Trump got more accomplished in a meeting or interaction with the Kremlin and I guess the Ukraine officials than the president has.
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You know, she brought them to some form of a ceasefire.
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I believe it was very short window of time, but that's a good indicator.
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But I think Zelensky's got to get in the real world and understand he's outgunned over there.
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You know, I keep reminding everyone that no country has more nuclear weapons than Russia.
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And we only have to hope they don't, I would say, have a lapse in judgment and deploy one tactical one in the direction of the Ukraine, because that would, I would say, elicit a response globally.
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But guys, you have to remember remember something.
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The Ukraine is not part of NATO, and there is no compulsion under Article V for another European nation to automatically or to be mandated by an agreement to come to their aid.
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They're kind of like I hate to say it, in some regards, swinging in the breeze.
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You know, there's a lot to be said about this whole incursion that was encouraged by Joe Biden during his administration.
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But, you know, at the end of the end of the day, who's got time for all of this?
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I mean, that all we're doing is slaughtering young men.
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In fact, I mentioned this before, and Tom, I think you'll affirm this.
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Young military-age men in Russia are trying to get out of Russia because they don't want to fight this war, the same way we had that go on during in Vietnam.
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Am I correct in that statement, Tom?
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How many of the young Russian men are trying to flee, or how many are are uh, you know, involved with the military and joining patriotically to support the Russian government?
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But but yeah, that's an you know, that's a problem for them.
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Same thing in Ukraine.
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Ukraine, Ukrainian government now for several years, has had squads go around in places like Kiev, their capital and other cities, and round up, you know, teenage Ukrainian young men and say, okay, now you're in the military.
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So they've been trying to, you know, so it's like both sides are trying to um more than encourage their young men to be involved in the war effort.
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You know what I find so interesting is our country has done the same thing.
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And and what really strikes me as disturbing is the fact that a lot of our elected officials don't hesitate to slaughter our young people.
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It sounds like that's going on in in the Ukraine, that's going on with Putin.
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And I suspect that's going on and has gone on in many places through history and many times.
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But, you know, again, we seem to be preoccupied with killing each other instead of helping each other.
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You know, the one thing I always go back to with John Kennedy is his speech is pursued peace.
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Not money, but pursued peace.
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Everything we do today, guys, is being monetized.
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We're trying to figure out today how AI is going to interface with our day-to-day living, which could become very, very dangerous.
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Some people are speaking to it.
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I have my own opinion that we need to employ this very in a very measured capacity, perhaps limiting it to, or just at least starting out with science and medicine where it has some positive impact as opposed to um having it make decisions for you and tell you what to think, when to think, and how to think, and then how to employ it.
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Tom, you must have some feelings on this AI issue yourself because you and I did not grow up with AI.
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You and I did not grow up with laptops and cell phones.
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We grew up in a different America, which I hate to say it was some somewhat more simplistic, but also embraces maybe less was more.
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This AI issue, Tom?
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Yeah, I think uh my opinion, it's going to be almost impossible to slow it down or prevent it from expanding, or the technology.
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Uh, to me, you know, it's to me very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle.
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You have people all over the world trying to expand the use of AI, the growth of it, the capability of it, and and you see it, you know, when you scroll through various YouTube videos, you see all you see headlines like, now using AI, we know who built the pyramids or when they were actually built or whether Jesus existed and what he did.
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And you see all of these things where they're quoting technology now to proving or disproving a particular point.
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I just think overall we need to take a good hard look at what we're about to embark on.
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And I remind everyone: the minute we monetize things, we piss caution to the wind in this country.
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You know, I was around in the late, I should say the early 70s and introduced to what they call Apollo computers.
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It was work when I was working for United Airlines.
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We weren't talking about each other's social life.
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We were trying to identify flight delays, in mountains, um, cancellations, accommodate passengers, accommodate crews.
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Today we're talking about your personal life.
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We're coaxing and cajoling one person to the next to commit suicide or to engage in illicit illegal activities or just running each other into the ground.
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And I don't think that should have been the intent at any given point for the implementation of technology in the form of, you know, social media, for example.
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Let me remind all the young people who are a target of this podcast, because we're doing this because of our concern for you.
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Tom and I, as I've said numerous times, have had our day in the sun.
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You're entitled to yours.
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But I do want to remind you of something that people don't remind you of.
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When we start to investigate you, you go for a federal job or any sensitive job requiring extensive background, we look at your uh social media first because it creates a good profile of in regards to how indiscreet you might be, how reckless, how inappropriate you might be.
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Please know that as you're playing around on this uh social media nonsense, we start with that, and that can eliminate you from any consideration.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Tom, with the FBI, for example.
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Absolutely.
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You know, and that just came from the horse's mouth.
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And I don't know what else to tell our young people about this, but I have to be candid with you.
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I almost feel remiss in the fact I haven't brought this up before because I teach my children this.
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I don't want my children on uh social media.
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There's nothing to say, not about your families, not about your boyfriends, your girlfriends, your feelings about uh Islam, your feelings about the Jews or Israel.
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Stay off, stay off these computers in general as much as you can.
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They were designed to generate information to make your learning process easier, not conduct your social life.
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And that's a big part of the implementation today.
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There's a useful need.
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But once again, we figured out how to make a buck, and the rest of it we just don't care about.
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You know, I go back and tell you during the Kennedy administration, his speeches revolved around the pursuit of peace, how to make the world a better place.
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He was a voice to everyone.
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We weren't, I I would say, obsessed with this notion of how to make money.
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And that really happened, that bumped into us hot and heavy starting in the 80s.
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We embraced Wall Street, and we've never looked back, guys, just for the record.
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I do want to mention something else, as long as we're on the topic rushing up against corporate America.
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Microsoft, I mentioned this to you in another prior podcast.
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They laid off 6,000 American workers to hire 6,000 plus immigrants in this country, some of them making$48,000 less a year than the prior employee of Microsoft.
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And I am certain they're not the only company doing this.
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And that's one of the discussions that revolves around the immigration issue.
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Guys, we need immigration.
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I think Tom will agree with that.
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Tom, we need immigration.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's just common sense.
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We need immigration in an orderly, rational, reasonable, purposeful form.
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We're losing American jobs to people in this country, some of whom are here illegally.
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We're still having episodes of illegal immigrants uh sexually assaulting our women.
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I don't know when we became so morally bankrupt.
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And guys, I'm I've got a foot out already.
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You guys don't understand where I am chronologically in life.
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There's nothing in this for me except I'm going to leave with some peace of mind, knowing I tried to leave this place better than I found it, much the way Tom has lived.
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Tom did things in the FBI that even though you may not have understood them, you may not have approved of them because you didn't understand them.
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But he's dedicated his life, 29, almost 30 years of his life, to keeping you safe.
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And I want to give you all a little secret.
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All this chatter we're listening to, if you don't have a country to be safe in, it's not going to mean anything.
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Trust me when I tell you.
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You know, we're bumping into a new election now on November 3rd, a midterm, quote unquote.
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You're listening to the rhetoric once again being exchanged.
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I listened to Obama and I listened to Trump mocking each other.
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Guys, our children bear witness.
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Try to speak more responsibly.
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If you have a criticism, let it be constructive.
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And my other real pet peeve is everyone that has something critical to say about what you're doing but no solution or answer.
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Just don't point out the problem to me.
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Point out how to fix it.
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Whether you like Robert Kennedy or not, that's up to you.
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But he's identifying things that have taken place through the years and how we've, I would say, cultivated our food chain.
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And clearly there's some detriment there.
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I did not grow up with preservatives.
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I hate to say it.
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I mean, I don't think I'm that old, but I'm that old.
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Tom and I both, we didn't have preservatives.
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We bumped into this probably in the 70s, hot and heavy.
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We didn't consider the long-term impact on the quality of life of your health.
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We just figured out how to make money.
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There it goes again, folks.
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They say money is at the root of all evil.
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Tom, I'm sure you have some feelings about where we were when we were younger and where we are now.
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Well, I think, you know, we were a lot more optimistic then until the time of the Kennedy assassination, and I think that's when many people really became critical of what's our government doing and who did it and what our institutions are being established to do.
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Like at that time, uh the establishment of the Warren Commission, which wasn't to investigate what happened in the Kennedy assassination or who killed him or why or any of that.
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It was basically to reinforce the government's position that Lee Harvey Oswald did it and he was all by himself, and we're not gonna, we don't want to have war with the Soviet Union or or the Russian Federation or anybody else over the assassination.
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So the idea and the mandate for Earl Warren and the Commission was to basically say Oswald did it and he was uh a lone actor in doing it.
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And in a way to reinforce that and to protect the CIA, which a lot of people were already suspecting of involvement, he appointed Alan Dulles, the former CIA director, fired by President Kennedy to run the investigation.
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And so much of that, you know, when you go back and look at the historical application of that commission, it was pretty much to try to keep it on track that it was Oswald and Oswald all by himself.
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And just for the record, we were warned twice.
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We've mentioned this in prior podcasts, it's worth mentioning again.
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In 1947, the Office of Strategic Services, referred to as OSS, transitioned into CIA.
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Harry Truman, the President, warned us.
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At the end of his term of office, Eisenhower warned us about the military-industrial complex.
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And what Tom is basically alluding to is a shift in priorities, a shift in agenda, which unfortunately walked us into a war called Vietnam.
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I don't want to continue this discussion about the failed foreign policies of this country because they're innumerable, number one.
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But we did the same thing in Iran and I mean in uh Iraq and Afghanistan.
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You know, we we stuck our nose where it didn't belong, to be candid with you.
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I've spoken to you about this before.
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I looked at the coalition after 1991, the the attack on Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
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Not one Middle Eastern country was part of the coalition.
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Ladies and gentlemen, if they didn't care, why did we?
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Begs the question: who profited from that war?
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Um, before I move on this topic, Tom, you want to give me uh any opinions in regards to this as to who may have profited or motivation?
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Who profited?
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You know, at the time, right before Kennedy was assassinated, he had issued directive that the 15,000 military advisors that we had in South Vietnam were to be recalled by the end of 1964 and terminate our presence with the military there.
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And shortly after he was killed, like I think within two days, Johnson overruled that, issued new orders saying, we're going in, we're going into Vietnam in a big way.
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The profit mode of that was the military, the so-called military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us in a week before he left office, uh profited tremendously.
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So from 15,000 advisors in Vietnam in 1963, we ended up within two years to having 500,000 troops and support personnel in that country.
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And the money that was then being sent was astronomical and it was everything the military wanted: buy equipment, hire people, buy helicopters, buy all the equipment that we would need to uh defeat communism in South Vietnam, which didn't happen.
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We waged war, but not successfully.
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And the relevancy of Tom's comments just now is we're living it today, guys.
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It's like we we never seemed to learn.
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We just moved it a couple of generations up to where we ran into this thing called convenient amnesia, and we did it again in the Middle East.
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My point on that would be we did learn.
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The military exactly learned what we had to do for them to get rich.
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The major defense contractors and all of that.
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We need to attack Saddam Hussein.
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And you had you had the Bush administration and Cheney putting out early that Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11, which he was not.
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And he hated Al-Qaeda.
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He didn't give them safe haven.
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He went after them.
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And yet we put this propaganda out that he did it.
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He did 9-11, and we need to go into Iraq and do something about it.
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And we did.
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You can probably tell, ladies and gentlemen, a lot of people made money, and we did it at the expense of our young people, our children.
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I think about 5,000 of them may have died, but the ones that have come home in pieces mentally and emotionally can't keep track of.
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Supposedly we're losing about 20 veterans a day to suicide.
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I went to a facility in North Carolina called Camp for Heroes.
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It make you cry to see the condition of some of these young people as they came back from the Middle East.
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I guess somebody thought it was worth it.
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You know, I go back and ask, as I did earlier, about being morally bankrupt.
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I worry about the country, to be very candid with you.
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I worry about it primarily because of its future and how it's going to impact our young people, our children, who deserve something way more than we're giving them.
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And I implore them to become part of this discussion in a reasonable, sound, sensible, dignified, respectful way, unlike the way we're doing it today.
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This word civility has just left the conversation.
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And I'll tell you something interesting, and it's almost bizarre, that I run into people every day that have a perspective on things, whether it's their perception of Israel and their agenda or what's going on in Iran and should Trump be there.
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And you know what?
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I'm actually comfortable with the fact that they don't agree with me.
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Most of the country today, sadly enough, if you don't agree with one another, we're at each other's throats.
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That's not the way the country was supposed to be designed, just for the record books.
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And I don't know what to say to you about how to get that cuckoo back in the clock, but my generation isn't going to do that.
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The younger generation is.
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It's up to you guys to start to reintroduce civility, decency, and respect in your conversations.
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And while you're not too busy, how about a little common sense logic and reason?
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You know, I want I want to talk to you a little bit about this gun control thing.
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We're going in the wrong direction, guys.
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You need the Second Amendment.
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The founding fathers were incredibly insightful.
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Tyranny, foreign invaders.
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And for those of you that didn't study history sufficiently, the War of 1812, the British made a second run at us.
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Okay, it wasn't just the inception of the country.
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In 1812, they made another run at us.
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They realized that this tool would always keep you free.
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This is going to strike you as crazy, and I'll tell you why.
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I was instrumental in arming the New York City Police Department, working with the police commissioner, slightly prior, during and post-9-11.
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I'm not saying I'm proud of that.
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It was necessary to do.
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I don't like anything that by design was intended to hurt people.
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Sadly, we live in a world in which we live in.
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You need a Second Amendment in your country.
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It'll keep you free.
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Just look around the planet without your blinders on.
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But we're going in a direction that is going to be counterproductive.
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You know, they're going to address the assault rifle ban, and rightfully so.
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Banning the assault rifle doesn't change anything, or high capacity magazines.
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When someone is intent on breaking the law or carrying out a heinous crime, please be reassured they're not worried about compliance with the law.
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That's just a simple, factually supported statement.
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But what we do have is a lot of people who are mentally and emotionally incapable of really managing firearms.
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And what is either side of the aisle doing about it?
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In Italian, the word is called ungats.
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That means nothing.
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You're doing nothing.
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There's no recommendations to enhance screening.
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In fact, as I've told you guys before, we have 29 states.
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By just by the virtue of the Constitution, Second Amendment, you are allowed to carry a concealed weapon in that state, and we know nothing about you going in the wrong direction.
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It's disingenuous to tell you we're going to have gun control.
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We're not going to have gun control.
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We just had another horrific incident in Bend, Oregon.
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Another young man, 16 years old, shotgun, went in, and killed, I believe it was three children and another adult.
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And interestingly enough, a legally owning citizen went into his center console, took out a gun, and terminated the person, of which I watched the interview.
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It's quite disturbing to have to do that to a young person.
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Something's gone wrong here, folks.
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It ain't the gun.
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We have a mental health problem.
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And for all you knuckleheads that brought children into this world that you don't want to parent, shame on you.
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They're going to define who you are.
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Tom, I know you're close to this uh conversation because of the FBI and its concern about terrorism and active shooters.
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What's your take on this whole thing with the guns going to where we're we're by the way, before I get Tom on, we're knocking on Heaven's Door right now that they're going to pass a reciprocal concealed carry permit for the United States.
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We need some form of standardization.
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Like when Tom and I came into law enforcement, we took what I think it was called back then Minnesota multiphasic screening, Raw Shock, Word Association, interviewed psychologists, psychiatrists.
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I took it at least a half a dozen times in my adult life in obtaining concealed weapons for business work-related issues.
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We have none of this in place, guys.
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And now we're going to give someone in some places, to be candid with you, and I've experienced it, and I'm not going to say where because I don't want it to reflect derogatorily against any one municipality in its head.
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If you could see lightning and hear thunder, they think you're entitled to have a gun.
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And that is not correct.
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You see, one of the keys or the success uh pivotal points in life is your ability to stop on a giant diamond change direction.
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We're not saying, I'm not saying, and Tom's going to put his two sets in on this in a second, you shouldn't have in a Second Amendment, you shouldn't have the right to carry a concealed weapon.
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I just like to know a little bit more about you, other than the fact you're not a convicted felon.
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And if you've been involved in a domestic, we have no way to know that necessarily through a nix check unless it's fed in.
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Tom, do you have any feelings on this topic?
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Yeah, I think when the Second Amendment was passed as part of the Bill of Rights, the idea at that time, and the purpose of all of the Bill of Rights, was to prevent tyranny, whether it be through freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, you know, protection against law enforcement from false arrest, that type of thing.
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And so the idea is that the government, whether it's going to be the British government while we were still part of uh part of them, or later our own government, if they start turning to uh tyrannical means, the citizens need the way to protect themselves, and that would be through the ability to uh to have firearms to protect themselves.
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If you look at, you know, you brought up the uh War of 1812 when the British decided to come back to the U.S.
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and win this time.
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You know, they lost in our Revolutionary War, but they decided to come back.
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And pretty much the ability to take them down, especially in 1814, Andrew Jackson, later to become President of the United States, you know, they recruited all these farm kids who all knew how to shoot, from shooting animals on their property, squirrels and rabbits and food, you name it.
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And they put that army together, and a small percentage of American kids defeated a large percentage of British and won the war again.
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And so that was the idea, and that was a case of the Second Amendment, you know, basically bearing fruit that we have a generation at that time of young Americans who had lived in tyranny, lived under British rule, and won the Revolutionary War to get rid of the British, and here came the British decided to come back.
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And like, here we go again, and we defeated them again.
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And a lot of people, a lot of Americans don't realize how far the British got with that invasion.
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You know, they burned the burned the White House.
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At the time of the founding of the country, it wasn't called the White House, it was called the People's House.
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Big sandstone building in uh Washington.
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And then the British burned it.
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And so after it, they decided to paint it, and they white, literally whitewashed it, and the nickname then changed to White House.
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And so that's you know, that was going on at the beginning of the country.
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But the idea of the public having firearms was to protect themselves and our new baby government at the time.
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You know, guys, if you haven't been able to glean this yet, Tom's a bit of an historian.
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He's very well read.
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He has no skin in the game.
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He's not trying to run for office or tell you who to vote for.
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He's just providing you some very interesting information regarding the history of the country and how we move forward from there.
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In other words, he he bumps into the Kennedy discussion, but we're living the fallout of the Kennedy assassination, even today, believe it or not.
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I said to you before, it was the loss of the innocence of the country.
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Tom is now speaking intelligently to this whole issue surrounding our country being armed.
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I said to you, I'm not thrilled with about guns.
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I really am not.
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I don't hunt.
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I don't have it in me to kill animals.
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You know, maybe if I had to survive, it would be one thing.
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But those people are individuals that are out hunting at game and they they eat it and it helps, I guess, support their family or whatever.
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I'm I'm right there with you.
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It's just not my thing.
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And I'm not judging anybody.
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I tell you, people also stop judging.
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Don't be so judgmental.
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I had to learn that myself.
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Took me a little while in life, but until you walk in someone's shoes, this is an example, don't judge them.
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We have a lot of avid hunters all over, all over the country, not just the southern United States.
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You know, my mom was from the South.
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My mama was from Arkansas.
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The South cut their teeth on fishing rods and firearms, just for the record books.
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It's part of a culture.
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Where I came from in New York, guns were taboo.
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I guess we were more, I guess, uh intellectually evolved if that was that's if that's not an oxymoron.
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But my point is that we're not a gun culture.
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Through time, you become one.
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But what's so sad is the fact that we're preoccupied with hurting one another.
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I just don't understand the purposefulness of these exercises we have engaged in historically.
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We're talking about them again.
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Guys, the Founding Fathers were on to something.
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If you don't want to believe me, go take a look at the Ukraine.
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I don't know where you stand with October 7th, with Israel, but I can tell you one thing.
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You you walk into somebody's house and you know they have the ability to resist you with a firearm, you're not going because the criminal element are cowards.
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Tom, I'm sure 100% will agree with that.
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There is unfortunate a legitimate need for a country to be armed.
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Tyranny, and Tom hit that nail right on the head.
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Foreign invaders, he hit that nail right on the head.
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We're not just living it back then, guys, we're living it right now.
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And I have to tell you something, I can't imagine our country if it had been disarmed, what would have gone on with some of our elected officials, because to tell you that their ideas are out in left field is an understatement.
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Anyone that likes guns, eh, you know, I could arbitrate that with you because I just don't like things designed to hurt one another.
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That's not why we were put here.
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But then there's this legitimate need for them, and you just have to look around the world and countries like the Ukraine where we're funneling in assault weapons.
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You know, guys, something's going on in Europe right now, and it has to do with the fallout of a failed foreign policy of the Republicans in the early 90s, right?
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This insinuation into the Middle East.
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They're complaining that their cultures are being overtaken by Islam.
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I'd like everybody to go out and read the history books about the Crusades, where Europe pushed back on Islam or Muslims.
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And let me say something to you.
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All Muslim people aren't bad.
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If you think that's the case, you're a knucklehead.
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And by the way, all Iranian people aren't bad.
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There's a lot of good people in Iran, and China, and Russia, and here, and there, and everywhere.
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The governments that lead aren't necessarily indicative of the sentiment of the people.
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See, we have a lot of rights here, some of which we take for granted, some of which, in my opinion, we abuse.
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I bumped into this discussion with the media.
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I think they're overstepping this First Amendment privilege that they have by disseminating information that they know is not accurate or true, that is politically driven, that's driven by an agenda.
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If you don't believe me, take a look at this COVID virus, what went on with the media.
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And I hate to break it to everybody, but two months in I could tell this was a ruse.
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All I did was listen to how it was being politicized and weaponized to go after a sitting president.
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You weren't worried about the country, you were worried about Donald Trump.
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I mean, how short-sighted.
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But we could go into this credibility issue throughout throughout mankind.
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But the relevancy at this point to digress back into this conversation, which revolves around gun control.
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If you think you're gonna see an assault rifle ban, I have bad news for everybody.
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I have a sneaky suspicion, instinct, intuition, reading the tea leaves, they're gonna strike down the assault rifle ban in the Supreme Court.
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There's no reason to have it.
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Let me tell you one that's even more dangerous.
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The National Firearms Act of 1934, that banned full automatic weapons, machine guns, silencers, destructive devices, short barrel rifles, and sort-off shotguns, which, by the way, if you're in a state friendly to it, you may now go in and just buy a what they call SBR short barrel rifle, much more concealable, and a sort-off shotgun.
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And you can buy a silencer.
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The federal government hasn't, the Supreme Court has not ruled on this in its totality.
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But this is the ground that's been given way already with setting the stage.
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And this is not about the suppression of your Second Amendment.
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It's about the intelligent application and your understanding for a need of regulation.
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We just can't give every Tom, Dick, and Harry a gun.
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They're just not being forthright and honest with you.
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I've listened twice to the ATF project over a billion gun sales.
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I've listened to a media outlet, CBS, July of 2019, acknowledge it was either 400 or 500,000 guns in this country.
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Why are you telling the public we're gonna have gun control?
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Why don't you speak to some intelligent way to regulate access to them?
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And while we're on the topic, if you want to know what another problem is, and I'm gonna get Tom in on this next, being he's from the Chicago, we lock up people with gun violations in New York City and we let them go.
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That's not a fairy tale, that's a fact.
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Maybe what I'll do is bring on the former chief of detectives of the New York City Police Department, Robert Boyce, and we can have a conversation about what goes on in New York City with what we call bail reform.
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It's like a revolving door.
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And a lot of the people we're catching and releasing, we've caught them with gun violations.
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Tom, care to jump in.
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That's true.
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So we have this basically places like New York where, you know, people were going to be more restrictive than other places unsuccessfully, but that's what happened.
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You know, this isn't fiction, this is fact.
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You must enforce the laws, you must have boundaries, you must have consequences.
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We have none in this society, whether it's for an elected official like the president or a common person breaking the law, assaulting an elderly person, or getting caught with a deadly weapon.
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We just don't seem to have any accountability in the culture.
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I don't understand what's going on here.
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And I'm not saying don't have some pliability or flexibility.
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Guys, not to go off on this conversation, but you know, we need we need reform in prison.
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We need to incentivize people in prison not to come back.
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You know, it's called recidivism.
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Maybe the way to do that is through shortening sentences in lieu of, you know, going to college and getting an education so we can put you back into the marketplace.
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You know, I don't I want to brush up on yesteryear again.
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You know, when I was in law enforcement, I caught a lot of kids doing things at times they shouldn't have been doing.
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Maybe with smoking a doobie, which back in the early 70s was pretty serious, or drinking beer in places they shouldn't be drinking beer or consuming it underage.
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I hate to break it to my bosses in retrospect, but I didn't lock them up.
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I called their parents.
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You know why?
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Because once I take a kid over a joint or a beer and I start to put him through the system and process him, I stigmatize this kid.
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And you can't do that to our young people.
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There's a thing called normal delinquency.
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And I came from the streets.
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I lived in parks.
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I was a city kid.
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I didn't see grass until I was 12.
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I'm not kidding you.
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It just wasn't available to me.
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And it's no big deal, it didn't hurt me a bit.
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But the point I'm trying to make is these are our young people.
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You you just can't put them through the system.
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And and Tom was a police officer also.
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I'm never going to critique Tom's policing techniques.
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I'm just telling you, as my myself, I caught kids with doobies.
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I called their parents.
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Period.
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If they were a cop, no cop, I didn't care.
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I said, come out here and get Mr.
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Potato Head and straighten this guy out.
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Because the next time I'm going to either put my foot in his butt or I won't be able to do that.
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I've got to put a number on him.
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And I don't want to do that, even if they're juveniles.
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I don't want to do that to the brain.
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I don't want to stigmatize this child.
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There's the letter of the law and there's the spirit of the law.
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And let me tell you a problem we bumped into today.
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And Tom, I want you to comment on this next.
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We've lost what we call discretionary policing.
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That's all there is to it.
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The minute I afford someone a break or consideration, we open up an investigation.
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How did you know them?
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Did there was a relationship there?
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No, I was just trying to cut the guy a break because people make mistakes.
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And the key in life, ladies and gentlemen, for those who haven't connected this dot, it's okay to make mistakes.
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You learn from that mistake and you push forward.
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You can't live in the past.
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You can learn from the past, although this country doesn't seem to do that, which is another discussion.
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But I'm talking on a more simplistic level.
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You teach our young people to learn from their mistakes.
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You support them unconditionally.
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Unconditionally doesn't mean you drop the hammer on them every single time you have an opportunity to.
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You know, I had a different upbringing.
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:43.679
I had great parents.
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My mother and father lived for us.
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I won't go into their backstory because it brings tears to your eyes how dysfunctional it was.
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And it's worth listening to, believe it or not, because it lends itself to how much we take this country for granted and how much we have and how much my parents didn't have.
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And there are still people in this country that don't have.
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And that again, I'm now going to go into a topic, now that we brought this up and you got my backside in the air, about free bus rides in my home New York City, where we're going to give you reduced groceries.
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Really?
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How does that help one minority child or any indigent child, regardless of race or creed, get an education?
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You morons in plain English.
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We're going to give you free buses.
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Really, isn't that wonderful?
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You want to know how to fix the problem?
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Money embodies, right?
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Why do these children live in communities where they're victims of collateral damage?
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They get shot when there's a bad drug deal, or they get shot sitting on the couch in their house and this has actually happened through their window.
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Or you look at their uh medicine, their diet, their housing in general.
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Stop blowing smoke up everybody's keys to with your free this and your free that and bite into the apple.
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And by the way, in New York City, slick, if you'd like to get the corporate entity to support what you're doing, maybe stop threatening them with taxes.
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Maybe you need to go in like a gentleman, which I'm not sure you'll understand that concept, because you're only 35, and I don't want to be too critical of you.
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And ask them for help instead of mandating help and threatening people every five minutes that you're going to increase their tax, their taxes.
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.760
And guys, I want to remind you of something else.
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The people that have money in this country spend money.
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.679
They have the most disposable income.
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Whether it's right, it's wrong, you understand it, it's a fact.
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And if you cut into that with heavier taxes, you're going to reduce the disposable income introduced into the country.
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I'm not the brightest guy on the planet, just for the record books, but I didn't fall off the back of the Apple cart.
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And my eyes have been wide open and my ears work.
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And as much as I talk, I listen and observe.
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And that's what my life's been a journey of observation and learning.
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There's ways to fix these problems.
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:52.639
Tom, you came out of Chicago.
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Are you guys getting free buses, by the way, or what the hell is going on in Chicago?
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Well, Chicago now has uh repeatedly in the last recent past elected morons to be mayors.
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So they've taken the city very downhill compared to where it ever was.
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And that's the problem.
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The other thing, the problem that I see is that, you know, when I was a cop in Illinois and Chicago at the time, um, if you picked up a person that was clearly mentally ill, we have places to take them.
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We have mental health centers pretty close by that we could bring them in, check them in, and they could be treated uh by doctors and everything.
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Later, those most of those hospitals are closed.
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So now the only place a street cop can take somebody that needs attention, mental health attention, is to take them to a regular hospital and check them into an emergency room.
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.480
And since they're not physically ill, they're not wanted.
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So they get released, basically.
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And I think that's a huge problem.
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The one the one hospital, Oak Forest, uh, pretty close to where I was a cop, was huge.
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I took people there all the time.
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And the and the doctors would recognize when you brought somebody the emergency room that they better get enough personnel there to protect themselves from who you were bringing in.
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:31.119
I saw many of occasions where bringing in a prisoner and and they'd say, okay, unhandcuff them, take the handcuffs off and let them go.
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It'll be all right.
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It's pretty dangerous, it's pretty wild, you better be careful.
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You know, they'll give us that.
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Take the handcuffs off.
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The next thing you know, that that prisoner is choking the doctor.
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And then he's screaming, help, help, help, and other people come running in.
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And uh myself and my partners uh that came in would say, you know, we tell you, we tried to tell you some people are mentally ill and you can't rationally talk to them.
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And uh that's gonna happen.
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You've just got to lock them up and start treating them for the mental problems they have.
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We don't have that.
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We don't really have that now.
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These are some of the people that are getting access to guns for the record books here.
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And let me tell you the fly in the ointment.
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There's a big fly in the ointment, and part of it deals with the fact that we have a government that takes care of everybody but our own people, our elderly, our veterans, our mentally ill, our homeless.
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I could rattle them off for you, our children.
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:34.480
And what Tom's talking about is this the dismantling of the mental health facilities.
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And I'd like people to go back and watch Geraldo Rivero conduct a expose on Willowbrook, a mental hospital in Staten Island.
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I've spoken to you about this before.
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We dismantled it because of the subhuman treatment of the people who were guests.
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Okay, I want to put them that way.
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We shut down Pilgrim State and Creedmore.
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Creedmore, the New York City Police Department, ended up converting and making it what they call OCCB, Organized Crime Control Bureau.
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It was a base of operation.
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That's what we did with the mental hospital right off the Grand Central Park near the Cross Island Parkway in New York City.
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Folks, Tom is exactly hitting the nail on the head.
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Let me tell you something else.
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When you pick up someone mentally ill in the street, you try to re repatriate them to their family, they're disenfranchised.
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The families can't take them.
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Danger to themselves or other family members.
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Where do they end up?
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Back on the street and in our laps.
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And what Tom's talking about is 100% accurate.
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We don't have facilities.
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We take them to these psych wards in hospitals that are really not equipped to treat these people in a scale or magnitude and what's necessary based on what's going on today in this country.
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We have a serious mental and emotional health issue.
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And I don't want to start the hammer at the media, but just for one quick second, maybe all this negativity that you spew from the time you wake up till the time you go to bed is taking a toll on our culture.
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The negativity just beats you into the ground.
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We never had it before the 24-hour news cycle.
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I don't want to go off on a tangent about the news again.
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I'm going to get onto them again on another day.
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But this mental health issue, as Tom will tell you, is quite interesting.
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Buddy, I got flipped around by an elderly woman in a home.
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She got went off her meds, quote unquote.
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Her family children called me in.
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A couple of other guys, we got tossed around like we were beanbags.
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They get an adrenaline rush and they're unbelievably strong and unbelievably dangerous.
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I rode in the back of an ambulance to a hospital with one guy.
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You know the first thing they have us do?
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We unload our guns, believe it or not, ladies and gentlemen.
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So if God forbid you lose it, they won't use it on you.
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That's how critical this situation is, that these elected officials just seem to gloss over or blatantly ignore.
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Tom gave you a good instant.
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We all have them.
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As law enforcement people, we all bumped into this.
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In New York, we call them EDPs, emotionally disturbed people.
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They're very dangerous.
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We don't have enough facilities to treat them.
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Worse than that, they're the same demographic that on any given moment can go out and get a gun.
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And if you follow the trending in the United States, we're making it easier and easier for people to get their hands on guns.
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:20.800
I don't know if I finished what I was starting to say about this reciprocal concealed carry permit.
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This is misguided.
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If the government does not put a standard in nationwide, it's a mistake.
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I'll tell you a quick story without giving names.
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I ended up in a community in Alabama.
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I went in to see the sheriff.
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He's a good guy.
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Showed him my law enforcement ID, my concealed weapons permit from the state of New York, told him why I was down there, right?
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Someone very prominent from a media outlet.
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The guy handwrote me a gun permit.
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That was good for two years.
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I understand and appreciate the courtesy at the time, more than I could put you put in words.
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But if he was doing it for me, I'm worried about who else we're doing it for.
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You follow me?
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Guys, we got to wrap our arms around this topic at some point and concurrently with the mental health issue and with failed parenting, because we're failing our children today.
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:18.159
Please do me a favor and stop branding them X and Z and all these lovely letters and pointing out their deficiencies.
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:21.039
Because if your children have deficiencies, take a look in the mirror.
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You're their teacher first and foremost.
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You're their role model.
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I want to just talk about something very quick about leadership.
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You know, the president is not only the guy that addresses the borders or brings back manufacturing or addresses the disparity in the percentages that NATO pay for protection under NATO or any number of topics.
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You lead by example, dignity, decorum.
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And I'm not talking to anyone president.
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We have one in office right now.
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I hate to say this to you, whether you like them or don't.
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Thank God you have them because what went on with this border issue the last administration has put so many people at risk in this country, especially our women and children, it's shameful, and we've yet to take responsibility.
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This is becoming one big lie, guys.
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:11.199
That's the problem we have here.
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But I want to say you need to have decorum, okay?
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And not just have a silver tongue and throw words around that mean absolutely nothing.
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If you want to convince people to do something, convince them to do the right thing for the right reason, not to follow your political agenda.
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.480
You know, I don't want to bump into this kid El Saeed.
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.400
He claims, you know, his faith is a big problem.
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:39.440
People are alarmed by Islam, ladies and gentlemen, globally, just for the record books.
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You don't have to believe me.
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Go look at London, look in look in the country of Sweden, what's going on with rape.
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Look at New Year's Eve in Cologne, Germany.
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Look at Italy.
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Look in, oh, by the way, Paris is burning.
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And I know they want to make you think that this is children.
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Children are part of it.
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There's something wrong in in uh in France.
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I got the memo on this thing.
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Burning the place down isn't the answer.
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You're supposed to use the right to vote to implement change, not violence.
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:19.280
Guys, just for the record books, it's okay to lawfully assemble and protest, but you're not supposed to burn things down.
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.880
They're burning churches and buildings and defacing monuments.
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I mean, to what good?
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You think it's gonna change anything anyway?
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No, you gotta vote somebody in that is in tune with what you like.
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.360
That's really what it comes down to.
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:35.360
This isn't brain surgery.
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But you know what?
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.719
The fish thinks from the head down.
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You've got to have leadership.
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You have to have inspiration, you have to have guidance, you have to have clarity and thought, not agenda.
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:53.519
You know, I have to say one thing about John Fetterman: like him, don't like him, Democrat, Republican, I really don't care.
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.199
He said, My loyalty is to my country, not my party.
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That's a concept that needs to be more generally employed by people being elected into office today.
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Tom, this thing going on in Paris, I like a little input from you.
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Not just Paris, Europe in general.
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Because, guys, it didn't just hit uh France and Paris.
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It bumped into Lisbon, it bumped into Italy.
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Tom, am I right?
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Am I wrong?
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:19.920
It's spreading.
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:30.000
But the issue was, you know, it started out in Paris that students were upset because their schools were being underfunded and they wanted reform and education, some of that.
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:48.480
And the problem is, whether it's in Paris, anywhere else in the world practically, including here, that when somebody starts a process of demonstration or belligerence against the government, then there's anarchists that come in from all over the world.
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And in the FBI, we tracked how many of these people came from overseas that just wanted to be in a fight.
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Didn't care.
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They didn't care about the issues or any of that.
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The issue to them was hey, here's a chance to fight with the government, to fight with the police, to raise hell.
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And that's why they came in and did it.
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And uh I heard a statistic this morning this morning talking about the French and how many of the rioters there were students.
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It's a small percentage now.
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They might have started that, but as soon as as soon as the uh the students light the fire of protest and rebellion and riot, that attracts the anarchists that will come in from all over the world.
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Hurry up and show up there, chance to fight with the police, chance to fight with the government, a chance to put push our agenda of taking out Western civilization.
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It's way beyond whether the schools are in good shape or not.
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And you see that, and then the neighboring countries start in.
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And uh and it's very power uh powerful.
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And people like Macron, the head of France, is basically can't do anything about it.
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He's just like, well, what am I gonna do?
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:07.599
And some of the heads of these other governments uh in Western Europe that are facing the similar, you know, the growth of this problem, that's what they have.
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They can't fight it.
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Loney in Italy deployed troops the first time it reared its head.
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Uh apparently the president in France didn't get the memo, I guess, quick enough.
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But I want to mention something that piggybacks what Tom just said.
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You're gonna find this interesting.
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You don't have to believe me.
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You can look into this yourself.
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We had the encampments a couple of years ago up in Columbia University.
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Almost almost half the arrests were of people who weren't students at Columbia.
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Guys, I don't understand what you don't understand if you're not listening to what I'm telling you.
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You do not have to believe me.
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I did not set up this podcast to spoon feed you.
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I gave I set it up to give you food for thought.
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I'm not telling you who to vote for.
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I'm telling you get out and vote and vote for people that you think whose whose process or their uh policies are gonna be in alignment with what's best for your children, but I'm not telling you who to vote for.
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I wouldn't be so bold.
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I have my own opinions.
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I talk to you objectively as Tom does and and factually, and Tom historically.
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Please pay attention, especially to our young people.
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I'm hoping, I'm hoping we can teach the old dog new tricks.
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You see what I'm saying?
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Maybe if you're listening to, you'll start doing business a little differently than you have been, because of how dramatically this is going to impact our kids.
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Guys, you need to, at some point in time, by the way, on your own, just take a look at what it costs to educate your child in a university today.
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I just want to know when it became big business to educate our children.
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You claim to love them so much, but you're pricing them out of the market.
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And that's something that's just inherently wrong.
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You know, what's going on in Europe, just to digress for a second, that's your wake-up call.
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We we have to figure out how to heal this country.
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I would say heal its soul, but I'm not sure we have a soul at this point because it's a little confusing as to what the agenda is.
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But I do tell you this, guys, when you get up every day, try to figure out how you leave this place better than you found it.
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It's a very simple concept.
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And and and carry that out through the course of your deeds during the day.
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We're gonna wrap for today.
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Tom, I thank you as always for your your your input and the history you bring to things because it's so interesting as to how it really um, I would say, uh interlocks with what we're living today, whether we're talking about the war of 1812 and what existed then, the mentality, the tyranny, the foreign invader, what happened during Kennedy, the loss of the innocence of this country, being warned about the military-industrial complex, which is still a concern today, guys.
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You do know that people are making money off this war in Iran and this war in the Ukraine.
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And it isn't just this country.
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You know, at some point in time, I wish your children were important as as important as your bank account and your politics and your agenda.
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Guys, we'll see you next week.
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Thank you for joining us.
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This has been Operation Truth.
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My name is Lou Palumbo.
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That's been Tom Fuentes, and we'll see you next week.