Messages from the Otherside with Isabeau Maxwell

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of this show, its host, or any of the companies
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they represent. Now, today, I tell you that the person
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I had on today is one of the most grounded
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and just wonderful souls that've had the pleasure to speak to.
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Her name is Bo Maxwell, and she is the reluctant
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psychic medium, and she is so grounded, so real, so
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skeptical in so many ways, but yet she has embraced
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her gift and messages that she brings forth about what
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we're going through is pretty remarkable. So let's dive in.
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I'd like to welcome to the show, Bo Maxwell, Hating.
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And Bo Fantastic. Thank you for having me.
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Thank you so much for coming down here. Next Level
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Soul Studios. I appreciate it.
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I'm thrilled to be here. You're my peeps, like I appreciate.
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We click on a lot of different levels, and you're
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doing really amazing work.
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Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that we're trying.
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We're hustling here, we're trying to get the message out
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to people and in a hopefully grounded way.
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So many are now.
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Yeah, and there's a lot more of that. We'll talk
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about what you see about that later. But you are
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a intuitive a yes, or as a psychic medium, and
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some of my great some of my great friends or
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psychic mediums. I've been around it most of my my life,
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being a Latino. It was just in our blood. So
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you know, we'd go to someone's house, we'd have a reading,
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we have a limp bis I don't know if you
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want to link. Yes, that is is where you would
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take a bath with this certain kind of whatever this
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guy put together to clean the evil stuff off of you,
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or a cleansing if you will, love that. So I
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did all that kind of stuff when I was a kid.
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So my grandma was a psychic. She was into itive,
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there's no question, but that generation, I'm sure you can agree,
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was in the closet. You coundnot say.
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Yes, I figured that out exactly.
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So before we get into your journey as a psychic medium,
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what was your life like before this insanity has come
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into your life of being a psychic media, because you
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are self proclaimed a reluctant psychic medium and you've been
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doing it a few years now, about twenty about twenty years.
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So what was your life like before this crazy happened?
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First, I want to say thank you for using the
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word crazy because that applies perfectly. My life is completely
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different than what it was. I was a complete skeptic.
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I wouldn't say that I was looking to bust any
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you know knowledge out there and go, oh, not real.
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I just didn't care. There was no spirituality, there was
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no religion. There was you know, business, business, business. I
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have a math degree from college.
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Which leans itself to being a psychic medium. Obviously totally.
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They looked at me and went, oh, yeah, you'd be
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a great medium.
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Thanks.
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If it didn't make sense, if it wasn't in front
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of me, if it wasn't tangible, if there wasn't a theory,
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I was not on board. I had no time for it.
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Also raised by my mom to believe that all psychics
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are frauds. This is all fraudulent.
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Well, you had a religious she was a Methodist.
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We're a Methodist, right, So that's that's the devil Oh,
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it was the devil's work.
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Obviously, absolutely, And here I am today.
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We'll get to we'll get to mom in a minute.
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It's not but yeah, it was uh And it wasn't passing.
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It wasn't We weren't overly religious. We just didn't have
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anything to do with it. My mom was a businesswoman.
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I was raised to be a businesswoman. This is what
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success looks like. Care about what people think of you.
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Compassion wasn't really dished out, you know, So that wasn't
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overly taught. Thank goodness. I'm compassionate today. And that was it.
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That was it. It was simple. That was my circle.
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That was my whole life. It was all about the dollar.
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It was all about the levels and the achievement. What
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car you drove?
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Very three dimensional? Oh, brutally brutally three dimensional. Brutal you
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were you were checking off the boxes that society was
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telling you to check off.
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Yes, if you gave me a trophy for any box,
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I would work hard.
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Really yeah, But that's that's that's the cheese in the
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in the in the rat.
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Oh.
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Essentially, they just kept dangling the cheese in front of you,
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and you just kept going and going, and so many
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people are stuck in.
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That Yeah, that wrack up every morning and said, call
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me miss miss Rat. I'm here. I am, and I'm
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going to be the fastest running rat. I'm going to
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get the race.
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Yeah, you were gonna it was all about conquering and
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it was all about you know, physical or materialistic golds.
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I understand I was there as well. So then from
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from that world, it doesn't sound because I've spoken to
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so many psychic mediums on the show, and so many
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of them like you know, when I was young, I
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saw Grandpa, uncle Bob show up and uh, you know,
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then my mom said, oh, just to ignore it, like
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they were like hints. It doesn't sound like you had
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any hints along the way, like you didn't have any
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inclinations or am I wrong?
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I had to, okay, and did not put them together
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that that's what happens.
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Only in retrospect, only in retrospect.
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And I later discovered that my grandmother, my mom's mom,
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my grandmother one of the best human beings on the planet,
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and my cousin and my aunt all believed. But my mom,
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I want to feel, in a protective way, put and
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the faces of all them and said not a word
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to my daughter, and I think my mom was protecting
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me from what she thought could was weird or wrong,
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and so I was very I had a very isolated childhood,
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so I was very isolated from that. And after after
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my grandmother passed and then all this opened up. My
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cousin was like, well, yeah, we just weren't allowed to
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talk to you about it. They would I know. So
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so here I am that kid in the family. All
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the cousins are hanging out in the living room. This
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is the one. I went upstairs. I had to be
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about nine, and I went upstairs and in the attic
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there was a single bed and there was a woman
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sitting on the bed rolling up stockings up or down,
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I don't even remember, but she was in older clothing
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solid and I went downstairs and said, Grandma, who's the
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lady upstairs and she said, oh, that's my mom. Go play.
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I was like cool. Come to find out that there
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was a portrait created my mom. My cousin Holly has it,
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which is really cool, a portrait of my great grandmother,
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and they would bring it out to get visitations and
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she would come visit and I'm like, and then I'm
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the kid who saw her. Yeah, I saw her, but
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everyone like no, no, no, no, no, don't make her mam mad, Like, no,
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you didn't see nothing, don't worry about it.
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The man behind the count, behind the count, don't look.
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Just keep playing, Go play with your toys. So that
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was one. There was one that in this one's even smaller,
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was I was home alone and I heard what I
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thought was a young kid downstairs. I remember being like
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twelve and you know latch key kid gen X. Right, okay,
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so I'm home alone, eating the cheese and boloney sandwich and.
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Watching watching like you know watching.
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Yeah, yeah, by the power of Gray Skull and the
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power I have the power. And uh yeah, I heard
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a kid downstairs, like yelling and saying something. So I panicked.
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And then my mom came home and I said, there's
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somebody the basement and she's like, no, no, no, there's nothing.
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And those are the two. Those are the only two
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other than that.
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So and you didn't even pay attention to them when
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you were growing up, only looking back and go, oh,
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that guess that was I saw a ghost and others
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Oh yeah I heard something.
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Afterwards, I went, yeah, that now that makes it.
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So that's interesting. So it's obviously in your bloodline. Yeah,
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it's in your bloodline. Like my grandmother and my aunts
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had it. My mom doesn't have it. They say, I
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have some sort of intuitive abilities, and I sure, why not,
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because that's what I need in my life. Really, you
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don't don't know. I have I have to do a show.
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I can't. I don't have time.
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I don't have time for this.
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I don't have time for this. But but it is
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in my it's in my family's bludline. So and we
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could talk about bloodlines and how that actually works in
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a minute. So when at what point did it become
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Hey man, you're a psychic.
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Yeah, you're a.
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Medium, deal with it.
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Deal with it.
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So at what point did that because it seemed like
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you ran they had a nice runway of life before
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this happened. I did.
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I was set up. I was. I had two kids
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at that point, they were probably about six or seven
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years old. Don't hold me to that for dates. I
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was thirty two years old and my grandmother passed away.
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She was in Minnesota, I was in New Hampshire, and
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I couldn't afford to go spend time with her. I
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knew I could afford to go to the funeral, so
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I kind of had to make that choice.
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And we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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and now back to the show.
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My aunt, bless her soul, made sure I was on
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the phone in the hospice room at the time of
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her passing. Yeah, I was rutal. My mom was my grandma,
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was my mom.
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She was grandma's as many gen xers are gen xers.
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Yes, we love our grandma's. And she passed and I
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remember coming out in the living room and I said
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to my husband time and my two kids. I got
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to figure out what to do, because that's what you do.
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You figure out, You get a plan, figure out what
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to do, right, don't feel your emotions, absolutely no, I
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mean that would be horrible. So he took the two
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kids to the grocery store to get you know, wine
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and chocolate. I was like, that's that's a good move.
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And I was alone, it was middle of the afternoon,
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standing in my living room, thinking do I fall apart
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while they're gone so nobody sees me fall apart? Or
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do I get a plane ticket? And she showed up
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right in front of me, probably about six or seven
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feet away, and I would say she was about seventy
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percent solid. Oddly, she was standing sideways. She turned. She's
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a little cheeky too, she was a little funny lady.
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She turned, she looked at me, she winked, she smiled,
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and then she disappeared lovely. So I was so scared
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that I flew back. I remember hitting the wall and
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holding like if I could touch the wall, something was solid.
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I was really scared, as you would yeah, yeah, And
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and I said, uh, if that was you, don't ever
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do that again. And which is you look back on
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the odd things you say in these moments. And then
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I went, Okay, that was my mind. That was hallucinations,
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and I'm good. We're gonna just put this one in
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the little box over here where the rest of my
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emotional heartache is. Is.
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That's where the gen X, That's where the X box. Yes,
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all of that, all the stuff that happens, and.
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We're gonna we're gonna do this, We're gonna move forward.
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So I didn't say a word to anybody. Next morning,
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my husband at the time said, I had the most
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realistic dream about your grandmother. It was weird. And I said,
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that's that's really weird. I said, it makes sense she passed.
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You know, that's our subconscious does that he goes? He goes.
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No, she was.
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Wearing these like dark blue pants and they are the
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short ones, and she had this blue shirt and was
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like button down but short sleeve, which is kind of
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and I'm just sitting there thinking that's what she was wearing,
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that's what she was wearing the before. And so now
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I'm panicking inside, right, panicking inside. And I made the
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decision too, and I will be very honest about this.
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I made the decision fifty percent to figure out what
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the heck happened to me, But the other fifty percent
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was absolute grief. And if there was one moment in
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this that I didn't have to lose her, if there
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was even the slightest chance I didn't have to lose her,
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I'm just going to find out if it was there,
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and that's what I did. So I'm still not talking
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about it at home, not talking about it to friends.
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I had previously owned a spad fitness center, a chieb
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or Chiever rechieve Right, and I had hired a tai
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chi instructor to come in and do tai chi. This
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is the only person I knew that was remotely spiritual.
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So I went to his place of business. And now,
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mind you, I've already kind of told you that I
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wasn't the most you know, compassionate. And I walked right
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up to him and I said to him, you're the
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weirdest guy I know. I need you to help me.
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This man you could I look back now and I
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know exactly what went through his head because he just
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looked at me with so much compassion. He was like,
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You're gonna be okay. And he loved me through it,
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which was absolutely wonderful. And he showed me how to
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do yes and no intuition with a pendulum, and I
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was like, this is the conversations I'm gonna have with her.
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So I'm working on this now. For probably about two
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or three months, I didn't see anything again, and in
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my head, this is what it looks like, right. So
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I had all these expectations doing yes and no questions
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the best I could get. It was like a chill
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that would run through my body and I'd say, is
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that you and it would swing and it would say yes.
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And I did this for two or three months, and
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then I started to say to myself. I'm raising two
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young boys. I need to check myself this. I'm reaching
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for something that's not real. Nothing has come to fruition.
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I haven't seen anything, haven't heard anything. And I remember
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being in my car one one morning and I said
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to her Grandma, I love you, but if you need
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to tell me this is real or I gotta let
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this go and I gotta go get some help here.
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And later that afternoon, it was just me. The kids
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were off doing their thing, and I got that chill
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pulled over. Do you remember twenty questions when we were
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a kid back in the day, Yeah, the gen XI,
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Yes and no. That's what I would do. I would say, Okay,
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is this you yes? Is it about family yes? Is
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about work? No? And it took me twenty minutes to
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get this simple message. But this is what the message was.
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Your mother would reach out to you for help. So
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your mom is going to reach out to you for
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financial help, but you're not going to be the one
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to help her. Her friend will. And I went, that's
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detailed enough that when this doesn't come.
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Through, I can wash my hands.
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I can wash my hands of this. This is the reluctancy.
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This is what am I doing to myself, and a
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couple hours later, my mom called wow and said, I'm
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in Vegas.
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That's exactly what you want to hear.
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Yeah, well, it was more like, of course you are.
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And she said, I'm in Vegas and I need you
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to put cash into my bank account because I'm having
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trouble with my bank account. Now this was twenty years ago,
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so I had to drive to my bank, I had
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to take the cash out. I had to drive back
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to her bank to deposit it. And I did so,
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and I pulled into the parking lot and I said
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to myself, Nope, no, it's still not true, because this
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is not too far out of the realm. My mom
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was a businesswoman. She dealt with money all the time
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and sometimes I would assist. And the phone rang again,
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and she said it was my mom and she said, hey, dear,
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don't worry about it. My friend Lisa wired me money
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and I went. And I still get emotional today telling
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the story because it was like, oh, this is it.
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Wow, Okay, so when this happened, how did you process
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this psychologically? Because you are you're not looking for it.
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It's not like you were reading books about it. It's
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not like you had a feeling about it. You didn't
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take courses about it, none of that stuff. You're fighting this, Yes,
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you're fighting it, and now you have irrefutable proof, yes,
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that this is real for you. Yeah, but your brain
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and the programming in your brain must have been like
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doesn't compute. Yes, And I can't even imagine, like if
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you don't believe in something and all of a sudden
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there's proof of it. Yes, you're just going your short circuit.
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So how did you process this?
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I to be very direct in how I felt in
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the moment, because you said it so perfectly, how I
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stepped into this. I went from knowing that when I
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locked the door at night in my house, nothing could
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come into it. I'm being very candid here about what
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I went through. Please, because and you believe nothing goes
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bump in the night, and when the only things that
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you've paid attention to are fantastic horror movies, this is
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now your reality. So I don't I didn't have a
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circle of people saying, oh, my wonderful loved one on
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the other side is watching me and guiding me. None
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of that was in my life. I had, you know,
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Freddy Krueger and like all the like all the horror movies,
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and right, so I'm now terrified. I'm now terrified.
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Think's gonna come.
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Well, actually, let's let's back up. So the first, the
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very first reaction was yes, now I have a direct
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line to her. This is real. So there was a
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little bit. There's a lot of joy, of course, because
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now I could talk to her and my grandma was
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the grandma that she didn't want to talk to me about.
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She took the old rotary phone, like off the hook
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and you can get to her. And I was like, ah,
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I can get to you now anytime I want. So
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I reveled in that for a while. And then I
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was at a grocery store and this one's in the
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book I was. I was in the grocery store and
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I looked down the aisle and there were three living
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people and I turned to get something and I looked
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down again and now there was like six, and half
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of them were transparent, and I was, for real in
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that horror movie where you know you're running up the
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basement stairs and you can't run fast enough. I ran
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out of the grocery store, made a complete fool out
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of myself, and got in the car because again, still
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only this Taie cheek guy. This is the only guy
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I'm talking to.
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About this, right, The Tai Cheo guys are usually known
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for psychic medium stuff.
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Yeah it swat, yeah, And so he had this, he
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had this much information and he was doing his best
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to help me. But I didn't have any medium friends
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or anything like this. And I ran out the car
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and I sat in the car and she showed up
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in my passenger seat. My Granda did, Grandma did, and I, yeah,
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I'm telling you, this is cheeky.
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She was. So now you're sitting there and you're like
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a son of am.
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I turned and looked at her and I said, what
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was that? And she said, what did you expect? And
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I said, I expected to talk to you for the
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rest of my life. And that's it. That's all I
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signed up for. So now I know there's more.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show.
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And now I'm at home and I remember locking the
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door at night and going this doesn't stop. So who
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can I see? Like, is there somebody in the room.
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So I went through a whole spiral.
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So you have like almost a break I did.
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It was a break. It was a break, and you're
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raising kids. I was raising kids at the time.
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Do they know they know this story?
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Okay, yeah, they know. And I found an incredible therapist,
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absolutely incredible therapist, A very kind man who didn't necessarily believe,
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but he was very what we would say, earthy, crunchy,
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and he was like open to maybe the popil and
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I worked with him for two years. Really yeah, because
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I needed to let go of a lot of things
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and processes.
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So was it sounded like that you're not only processing
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what's happening to you, but all the crap that you've
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been carrying from your childhood, that gen X crap that
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we all carry. Oh yeah, all that stuff that you
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put away started to bubble up because now your world
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was thrown upside down. It's almost kind of like your
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foundation that you've built out of cement, but underneath the
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cement there's ethanol or whatever kind of thing, and it cracked,
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and all of a sudden, all this stuff starts to
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come up out of the foundation and you're like, oh, whoa,
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I don't want to I buried that dead body underneath this.
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Why do I have this smell coming through here. Now
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I got to deal with this kind of thing. So
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it sounds like that's what happened to you, and you
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needed someone to just help you get rid of the smell,
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spackle the foundation, build out something new, or tear off
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the old foundation and build a brand new one. And
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that takes a minute.
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It takes a minute. It takes a minute. In addition
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to that therapist, the next thing that happened to me
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spiritually was the essence of everything I do today. And again,
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still no friends, too shy to tell anybody what's going
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on with me because I think that that defines as crazy.
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So very consumed with what people think of me. And
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I was leaving a friend's house and they lived in
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like three acres wooded. I'm very city born, bred, city girl.
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And there was a almost like a heat heat registered
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type vibe out in the woods and I was pulled
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and so I'm walking to my car and I'm seeing this,
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you know, like you see heat on a road.
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The little yeah, but.
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It kind of was in a form of a person
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of course, of course, and there's my impression. Okay, that's cool,
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and I'm like going to my are going now, what
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is this is?
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This two years. This is after the two years are here.
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This was about six months in.
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Okay, okay.
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So so a couple months in Grandma gives me proof
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and then she keeps giving proof, which is wonderful. A
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couple months after that, I got a therapist. A couple
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months after that, I see this weird thing in the woods. Right,
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so city girl gets in her car, locks the door,
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goes home, and but I could not stop thinking of it.
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So I said, okay, and I called my friend. I said,
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can I go out and sit to figure out what
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this was? And they were like, yeah, absolutely, So I
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went out there and that ended up being my first
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spirit guide. Now here's the irony. I don't know what
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a spirit guide is. I've never heard the word spirit
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guy before. So I'm like, okay, it's really weird, but
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I'm here for it. And he would say to me
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nothing other than the words come back next Thursday, and
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you see him.
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I just heat just so you see a heat signal
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distortion in the in the matrix, if you will, distortion
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in the matrix.
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Yes, the field was vibrant, and I was like, that's it,
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that's it, and so you know, I go home. He
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did this probably twelve times. Come back next Monday, come
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back next Saturday.
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Almost sounds like mister Miyagi, and.
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I remember getting just bent. At one point. I was like, listen,
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if I can hear four words come out of your mouth,
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that means you can talk to me. Okay, again, not
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really overly compassionate. I was like, very business, let's go,
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let's go, And I had to kind of get past that,
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and then he started talking to me.
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What I find fascinating, it's among many things I find
485
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fascinated about you, bo Is, is that the universe decided
486
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to use you in this fashion, and you signed up
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for this obviously. On the other side, you know, in
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your soul plan and all that stuff, and you decided
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to come into this family. You know, you picked your mom,
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you picked your grandma, you pick all that stuff. I
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get all of that. But what I find fascinating two things. One,
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if your mom wouldn't have blocked this, Yeah, this would
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have been a much smoother transition because this was going
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to happen in your life. You signed up for it,
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so regardless of like I was going to be in
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the film industry, Like, there's nothing how I got there
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is irrelevant. But that was going to happen in this life. Yeah,
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so similar thing. So if she wouldn't have blocked it,
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it would have been a smoother thing. But obviously it
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needed to be blocked because you needed to go through
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some stuff.
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It needed to be blocked. Also because I now teach
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others how to open their intuition in a very specific way,
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because I went through it the way I went.
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Through it, and that was the purpose of it. You
506
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needed that pain, you needed that process to be able
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to help others.
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Alex, I am the poster child for if I can
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open up my intuition, anyone can. And he walked me
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through the stages of it, which were not the stages
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I would have thought, and he would get me tasks.
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I worked with him in those woods for two years.
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Okay, I'm sorry, you're still going back to the woods.
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I know, right, he couldn't make a house called.
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Can I skip forward to that day? Can I skip
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forward to that day? Because again, and you know, I'm Taurus,
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I'm straight list.
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It just makes so much more sense.
519
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm an only child, I'm a type A Taurus.
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Here we go, and it was about it was it
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was about a year or so in and I would
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go back to the woods just for the nostalgia of it.
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But I was driving out the driveway and he showed
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up in front of my car and I was like,
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what are you? What do you You can leave the woods?
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This is how much I didn't know. Wow, yeah, And
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he was like yeah, popped into my car and I
528
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was like, you can go anywhere. And I've been driving
529
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all the way out.
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Do you know what gas prices are?
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Do you realize how much wear and tears on my
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car down these dirt roads. But I worked with him
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for two I journaled it all and it was very
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much about me and my healing I had. And he
535
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.839
taught me so much. He taught me how past lives work,
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how the.
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How I went to school.
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Oh, I was schooled for two years. And I was
539
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fascinated because that like scientist type thing was like, here's
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here's the in between, here's the twelve levels of the
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in between, Here's what happens when you come down, here's
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the time boxes. This is how this. I mean. He
543
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taught me so much. So when people say, oh, what
544
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books should I read, I'm like, I don't know, because like,
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I learned everything from him, and he would teach me
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something and then I would go out in the world
547
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and the really cool synchronosities would be like exclamation point.
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And it was so the synchronicities. Every time you would
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teach me something, I'd go out and it would show up,
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and I'd come back and I'd be like, this is
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so cool that happened.
552
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.319
He goes, yeah, so, but it seems like they leaned
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into your more scientific logical standpoint, because that's how that's
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a good teacher understands how to teach a student on
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his or her level and his or her level.
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And I'm I'm so hungry for how things work that
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to be able to understand how this whole process unfolds
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from beginning to end, how the earth is create like
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all of this stuff, I was devouring it. Meanwhile, this guide,
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which over time I got to finally see him, and
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you know, I got more comfortable and it wasn't just
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a heat signature. But meanwhile, this guide is teaching me
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how to be healthy and how to set boundaries and
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how to heal and all this, and he's giving me
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those assignments as well. Next thing, you know, my intuition's
566
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opening more and more and more, and he helped me
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to understand it's there. Everyone is one hundred percent intuitive.
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00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:46.440
Their channel is cluttered. So when it comes to uh,
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you know, are you born with it? Are you're not
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born with it? Are you gifted or you're not gifted?
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I see it in the in the realms of is
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it uncovered or not? You know, some people have a
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calling to use it greatly in this world, but all
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of us is it uncovered or not? And I left
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that training with that knowledge. So instead of learning a
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different way, that's how I learned. Two years in he said,
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I need you to take all this, put it together
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and bring it out to the world because there are
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so many different kinds of teachers, because there's so many
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different kinds of students, of course, and so all of
581
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my students are very like me, and not all of them.
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We all got all these different flavors, right, But a
583
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lot of my students that's the path that works for
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them today. I can say that back then, I was
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just flying around just not knowing what back.
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So would you agree that? Because I agree with you.
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I think everyone does have the ability.
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It's just just.
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Like everyone has the ability to eventually get enlightened or
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self realized like Jesus or Buddha. We all have the
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potential for all of us. It's not the special that
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gets the enlightenment or get these gifts. But with that said,
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what I always say is like, we can all play basketball,
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but we're not all Michael Jordan. Yes, so that's it.
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So some do come in this lifetime with maybe thousands
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of lifetimes before, hundreds or whatever many lifetimes before, as intuitives,
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as spiritual people, as mystics, and they bring that into
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this lifetime. So you're just more tuned, you have a
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more skill a higher skill set, so you can maybe
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be the Michael Jordan. And so there are levels of
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psychic abilities. And we'll be right back after a word
602
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:34.480
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. From
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00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.480
my experience being able to speak to as many as
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I have over the years, there are there's a level B,
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level C level. You know, some people are like, you know,
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I'm good forty percent of the time. Sometimes I'm good
607
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sixty Because it's not easy sometimes because you really have
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to open up your mind. You have to process what
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they're saying, interpret what they're saying, and come out and
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then there's some I've met who are so on speed
611
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yeah and so perfectly a lot. I'm like, how did
612
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you know that? Like, how did you know this? How
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did you know that? There was one psychic who came
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on and he was giving me a reading on air
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just for fun, and I'm like, hey, wait, wait you
616
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know what do you let's see? And he said something
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about my grandma and I'm like, only two people, three
618
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people on the planet know about it and I just
619
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.680
heard it three weeks earlier. Like no one, no one,
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not family, no one knew this. My mom told me
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and I told my wife. Other than that, no one
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else on the planet knew the story. It was so specific,
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it was pretty brutal. It was specific and what happened,
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And I was just like, how did you? And I
625
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called my mom up like right after, I'm like, do
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you know this just happened? She's like what, Like how
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did he know? I'm like, psychic, it's pretty it's pretty
628
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mind blowing. So okay, So now the spirit guy does
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he have a name?
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Big Dog?
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Big Dog?
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And I gave it to him.
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I figured out that much.
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Yeah, I gave him that name because when I said
635
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to him, what's your name. He said which one? And
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I went, oh, that makes sense because so many lifetimes.
637
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He's like, which one? And I said, can I just
638
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call you a big dog? He goes, that works, big Dog.
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00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.640
Of course it does. So big Dog wants you to
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come out now of the closet because you've been quietly
641
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.000
doing this, driving to the forest, talking to a heat signature.
642
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Thank you.
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That's how I felt, talking to a heat signature and
644
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learning about the cosmos and the meaning of life. So
645
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you're going through all going through all of that, and
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00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.519
you're like, cool, this is all like personal and this
647
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is for me similar to me. I was a closeted
648
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.960
spiritual guy until I had to be forced to do
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00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.079
this podcast and come out of the closet, which was
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terrifying for me. And I'm just talking to weirdos like yourself,
651
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right right, weird on myself? Oh no, but weird. So
652
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when he said that, how did you come out? How
653
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did you deal with the repercussions of that, because I'm
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assuming your family some were like finally and other I'm
655
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sure your mom was like, are you out of your mind?
656
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So how did you? How did that go?
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I didn't tell my mom, were just.
658
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I just left five, right, oh, five when you started
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doing this.
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So five was when I opened up seven when I
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started to tell the world, I guess I was a medium.
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So the Internet's out and it's doing, it's doing.
663
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It's thank so it's it hadn't caught up yet.
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We didn't have you know, social ghost, whisper and medium yet,
665
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so I would have to say, yeah, those were Those
666
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were very helpful to come out.
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I would say to people.
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My first challenge was and this one was actually from
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the Living Therapist. My first challenge was, just tell someone
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you're a medium. I was like, no, So that was
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what I would practice. You know, somebody would say what
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do you do? I would have to say I'm a
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medium and they'd say what that And I would say, oh,
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I communicate with the disease.
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When that movie came out, what did you think?
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Wasn't that the best? There's so many movies that have
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so many things that are spot on, and I would
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either run into people that would think that that's great
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and that would help bring some calm to me. And
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I look back now and I find it very comical
681
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that the ones that I would run into almost every time.
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If I ran into someone that said, Oh, I don't
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believe in any of that, but there was this one time.
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That's that's what I There's always one time, so we
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all have that one time, and that was that was
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how I started. Now, before I started doing professional readings.
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Every medium really has a particular flavor of calling. There
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are some evidential mediums that are on stage that that's
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their calling is to show people what's possible. There are
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mediums that do crossing over work. I do crossing over work.
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That's my core job.
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Actually, in addition, you mean crossing over work, helping helping
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people cross over, helping people cross over. I did professional
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readings for a number of years. It's been a.
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While since I've done them, so now it's crossing over
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and teaching. But I did readings for about ten twelve years,
697
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but that was never the urgency. The urgency was to
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help people cross over. So now here I am with
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Big Dog and we're a couple of years in and
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he said, this is what I need you to do.
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Because he had taught me all about the in between levels,
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all about lives are all happening at the same time.
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Here's the higher self, here's how it comes down like
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and I'm eating this up like candy. And he goes,
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now that you know all that you can help souls
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00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:40.679
cross over, and I was like, ha, no, that sounds
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scary and I'm starting to go back.
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To the whole programming everything.
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And it's not. It's more assistance based. It's more the
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crossing over process is so automatic. It's just it's so
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automatic that when people talk about souls being stuck, they
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it comes off as scary and it's not necessarily that.
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It's more encouragement in people's transitional process over.
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So let me stop you for a second. I have
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such a unique perspective because I speak to a lot
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of near death experience theres and sacking mediums and all
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00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.639
that stuff, so I have a unique kind of worldview
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in regards to this stuff. I've spoken to a lot
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of mediums to talk about the stock souls, ghosts, things
720
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:29.159
like that. My understanding, and please correct me from your
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point of view, is there are ghosts or something like ghosts.
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These are souls who are either chose to stay locked
723
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.119
into a specific space in a home. Generally, from what
724
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.760
I understand, souls they like to be where people are,
725
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:47.760
so they're not going to just be out there by
726
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.119
themselves in the middle of a forest. They're hanging out.
727
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.880
Yeah, they're not hanging out in the graveyard.
728
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.119
Right, that's not where you would find them. Hospitals is
729
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:56.760
a big place because there's a lot of people all
730
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.880
the time and all these kind of things, but they're
731
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.159
not hanging out in these desolate places as a horror
732
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.719
movies would suggest. So that's another thing. And then sometimes
733
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.760
there are people like yourselves who like have to come
734
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.840
into a space and there might be a haunting quote
735
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.320
unquote a haunting, or someone's just acting rumboxhius or like
736
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.119
they don't really know that movie the others. Oh my god,
737
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.480
that movie was all the others, right, Nicole Kinman, Oh yes, okay, yep, yes,
738
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.719
that's a spoiler alert. Guys. She thought that there were
739
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.400
ghosts in her house, but they were actually the ghosts
740
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.559
and the people who just moved in were just people.
741
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.000
But they but they didn't know that they were dead.
742
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.559
So is that a thing as well, Like that you
743
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.239
die and you just like, especially in a traumatic accident
744
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.280
like a quick pop out or something like that, that
745
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.880
they just don't know they're dead and they need someone
746
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.400
to say, hey, move along. It's okay. That so everything
747
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:52.159
I said, what do you think?
748
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.039
Absolutely, yes, yes, yes, and yes a couple. And again,
749
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:02.119
these are just my opinion. I'm wired as a cheerleader.
750
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.239
I want to see people succeed. That's that's food for
751
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.480
my soul. It's always been that way, whether I was
752
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.679
running a non spiritual business or spiritual business. And so
753
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.199
this makes sense to me why I'm doing crossing over
754
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.920
work because it's not the horror movie. I actually don't
755
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:22.320
like the word ghost. I think ghost dehumanizes process. Of course,
756
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.840
thank you, because it's just one of the words that
757
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.360
just grates on me. These are people, and so I
758
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.159
love to say ghost of people too.
759
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.719
My god, you have a T shirt. Oh it's ghost
760
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.199
of people too.
761
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.800
It's one of my favorites. Actually, I'm hoping it's the
762
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.119
title of my second book. So, but this is this
763
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:45.199
is where my heart is because with so much hoopla on, oh,
764
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.079
it could be this, it could be Deemon, it could
765
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.760
be all the scary stuff that's out there. In the
766
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.840
end of the day, it's Aunt Edna, and she might
767
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.880
be a little fearful through this transition process because she
768
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.239
might still be holding onto a little piece of the
769
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.079
programming brain, right, And this is, like I said, it's
770
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:03.280
an automatic people mover.
771
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:03.480
Now.
772
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.519
I haven't had in near death experience, but I'm so
773
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.920
encouraged when I hear people talk about their beautiful experiences
774
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.000
because I'm like, yes, that's what I learned. Right. You
775
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:18.960
have to stop that automatic process in order to be
776
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.360
what someone would say stuck. I actually wish there was
777
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.280
a better process. We could say lingering in the transition process. Nice,
778
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.880
that's a better way of saying it. And I also
779
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.559
don't believe that mediums take somebody and move them over.
780
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.400
What mediums do, what people who do good crossing over work,
781
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.559
What they do is they say, I'm here with you.
782
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.920
I'm being present in this moment. I know you are
783
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.400
experiencing something that's causing some form of confusion. And when
784
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:54.360
you do that, because we're all connected, someone showed up
785
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:54.599
for you.
786
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.000
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
787
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:03.880
and now back to the show.
788
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.639
And then that's where people start to move in that
789
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.239
automatic movement. Again, that's my description of crossing over. So
790
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.039
it's not even like a job. I don't have to
791
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.079
bring anyone anywhere. I just have to stop and recognize
792
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.400
no different than a six year old kid on a
793
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.000
sidewalk and you don't see an adult around and you go, hey,
794
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.079
what's going on? What you doing? I'm a little scared.
795
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:29.960
I don't know where, I don't know which way to go. Okay,
796
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.599
well we're just gonna relax. Oh no, now you see mom. Awesome,
797
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.559
that's literally it.
798
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:41.039
So the movie Ghost, which I it's one of my
799
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:45.079
favorite movies of all time. I mean, and they got
800
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.880
a lot, right, they did, They got a lot in
801
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.800
that movie and air. I'll tell you the story of
802
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.360
Bruce who wrote it, of how he came up with
803
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.320
the whole thing and what happened to him to get
804
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.679
to that point. But whoopee is actually that whole thing
805
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.480
is very accurate. Yeah, you're like, is Bob is Bob here?
806
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.440
Bob here? But Bob's here now, okay, Bob It likes
807
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.280
to tell you you there's a there's a drawer, there's
808
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.679
a green handkerchief underneath that that's gold, like that kind
809
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.639
of stuff, and that's and it's very similar in that way.
810
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.360
There are possessions like she did, like like the that
811
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.079
the ghosts would come in. I've seen I forgot what
812
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.960
that's called it's an actual term. I was watching something
813
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.079
the other day about that, where you allow the spirit
814
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.920
to come through you and speak through you, not channeling.
815
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.559
It's different than channeling. It's like a it's a possession.
816
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:36.840
But I don't hate to use that word because that
817
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:37.400
sounds very.
818
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.599
It's more like an obsession. It's it's more about well, no,
819
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:40.599
it's it's a partnership.
820
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.960
It's a partner. It's a partnership.
821
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:42.760
It's a way to channel.
822
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.119
It's a way to channel, but it's a different channeling
823
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.880
kind of thing. Channels just usually go off to the side,
824
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.440
and it's a different, a different thing. Patrick Swayze when
825
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.119
he when he and this is so accurate to what
826
00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:00.320
you just said, when he dies, he's killed. He looks
827
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.840
over and the light is coming, so he could walk
828
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:09.000
over towards the light and go towards it. But something
829
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.599
kept him here because he needed to protect anymore. Yes,
830
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.039
you know, he needed to protect her and figure out
831
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.239
how he died. And that's the whole process of it.
832
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.119
A lot of times they will stay behind because they
833
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.239
feel they have a job to do or finish something off.
834
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.480
There was one I forgot who told me this story,
835
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.159
but years ago I heard this story where this guy
836
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.920
he hadn't died yet, but he was in a coma
837
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.480
and there was a medium who talked to the wife
838
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.679
and he said, he just won't die. He just won't go.
839
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.559
He's supposed you should have gone already, and he wouldn't go.
840
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.719
And he brought in a medium to talk see if
841
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.800
she could talk to him, and he goes, which is
842
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.840
very possible. I need you to It was to a daughter,
843
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.559
I need you to go to my office. There's an
844
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.039
envelope with a stamp on it. It's this quarter's taxes.
845
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.920
Can you mail that for me? Please? And she's like okay,
846
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.119
and she went and there it was. She mailed it.
847
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.320
He died the next day. He didn't want to leave
848
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:11.480
until his taxes were paid.
849
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.880
I know, I know. And there are ones like this.
850
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.760
So one of my favorites in doing crossing over work.
851
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:19.679
You also go into houses. And I don't like the
852
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.000
word haunting either. That's just me because it's a very
853
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.519
human experience and for me, I try to separate from
854
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.440
those movies type thing. Movies are great, but I try
855
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.000
to separate from that scary factor. Right. I'm not a
856
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:34.719
fan of bringing the whole fear based thing into the
857
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.159
oh absolutely world of spirituality. I think you lose and
858
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.320
you miss out when you do. Of course, so this
859
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.360
woman called, but it's natural for someone to say, my
860
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.400
house is haunted. I'm scared. Will you please come here.
861
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.239
This is one of my all time favorites. I went
862
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.360
to this woman's house and she was very scared because
863
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.679
she heard footsteps on the stairs, and every now and
864
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.960
then she'd wake up and come downstairs, and the cabinets
865
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.039
in the kitchen would be open.
866
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:57.880
Oh that whole thing. Yeah, didn't that before?
867
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:02.599
Yeah, And so she's all seen this before on ghost shows.
868
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.400
So now she's terrified, of course, and a spirit shows
869
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:11.480
up promptly, little lady and looks at me and says,
870
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:15.199
she messed up my pie recipe. And I'm like, oh,
871
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.239
how okay, so this is where we like, can you
872
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.159
help me? Know who you are? Her aunt? It was
873
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.480
her aunt who was upset about the set about the
874
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.760
pie recipe. So every time so she changed the pie recipe,
875
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.239
and every time she made it, the aunt would leave
876
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.239
the cabinets open and walk up and down the stairs.
877
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.280
And so I said to the woman, I said, do
878
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:36.480
you have an aunt? She looks like like this and
879
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.519
and whatever. She goes yeah, and I said, you have
880
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.000
a pie recipe and she's like, you can't make this up.
881
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.239
And I'm like, any chance you changed the recipe and
882
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.960
she was like, oh no, oh no. And I said,
883
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.639
so your aunt's here, she loves you. Might want to
884
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.480
put the recipe back to the original, you know. And
885
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.079
it was a great meeting. It was a great question.
886
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.840
So what happened to that aunt. Is she on the
887
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.880
other side or she or she was she quote unquote stuck.
888
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:06.079
She was on the other side, and it wasn't that she.
889
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.280
I mean, she kind of came across, like, don't change
890
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.679
my recipe because their person your personality comes through from
891
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.239
the other side. So she was crossed over. She wasn't stuck.
892
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.519
But even people on the other side can come down
893
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.599
and they can manipulate this world. They can move something,
894
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.719
they can open it. And there's a reason that py
895
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.880
recipe needed to stay the same for her niece. So
896
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.440
I don't know what that is. A lot of mediums
897
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.320
will agree with me that we don't really get a
898
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.079
lot of follow up all the time, so I don't
899
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:36.119
I don't know what happened with it, But well.
900
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.239
You're a glorified telephone.
901
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.000
You're a glorify Yes, thank you, you're.
902
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.159
A glorified telephone. You're not You're not a sage. You're
903
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:44.440
just a communication tool.
904
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.039
I like to say I'm a tool. I'm an absolute tool.
905
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.840
You're a communication tool.
906
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.159
Or you're a janitor. You're going in and you're cleaning up.
907
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:52.280
Nobody even sees you.
908
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.039
But it sounds like that's what it is. And a
909
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.719
lot of people don't understand that about mediums, that that
910
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.199
the information comes in, the signal comes in. You've tuned
911
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.039
yourself to the ability or opened yourself up to be
912
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.519
able to get that signal coming. And when that signal
913
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.000
comes in, you have to process it and translate it
914
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:14.320
because sometimes is it images with you or do you
915
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:14.920
actually hear?
916
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.840
I see? So I started with being able to see.
917
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.079
Eventually I started to hear.
918
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.760
So you can talk. There's a conversation, so it's not
919
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.320
just like a picture of a rose and you're like,
920
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:26.519
there's a rose coming.
921
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.960
That's how it started. Yeah, it was felt like charades.
922
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.079
That's exactly what I understand it to be.
923
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.119
Yeah, it felt like charades. And there were times where
924
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:35.800
it was really frustrating because I don't know what this is.
925
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.239
I still get pictures and images. Yeah, you're like, I
926
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:39.199
don't know what that means.
927
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.639
What if there's a rubber boot? Is there a rubber boot?
928
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.559
And you're like, oh my god, my mom, my grandmother
929
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:44.519
loved that rubber boot.
930
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:49.400
Yeah, and you're like, Okay. It started with images and
931
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.159
then the images started to kind of move, and then
932
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.320
I started to see and I always see heat signature
933
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.840
still to this day. And this is one thing I
934
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.840
teach my students is to let go of the preconceived
935
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.960
notion of how you think you're going to see, because
936
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.079
the chances are really good you're already seeing. You just
937
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.039
think it's going to look like this, So you're looking
938
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.320
for it because because of the movies, right, So the
939
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:15.480
way that I describe it, and it's fair that the
940
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.039
easiest way to say you're seeing something as a medium
941
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.679
is I see this, I see this, she's wearing this,
942
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.960
they're showing me this. But that comes across as I'm
943
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.440
seeing it in living color or I'm seeing it so strongly,
944
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.559
and more of us need to be talking about this
945
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:36.400
because that's not the case. When I see first, if
946
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.719
it's mediumship, I'll see a heat signature, and then something
947
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.400
will kind of come into focus and then pull back.
948
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.320
You need to see that I have long hair, You
949
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.360
need to see how tall I am. You need to
950
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.719
see me do this gesture, and then it'll pull back.
951
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.840
So it's not like having a full on conversation with
952
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.440
a person. The psychic side of it is also it's
953
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.360
almost even more interesting. When I see something psychically, it's
954
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:03.719
as if I'm seeing it sitting on a table in
955
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.440
a dimly lit room. And so I use the example
956
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.320
with my students of an apple. I think that's an apple,
957
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.840
but then your intuition knows it's an apple. So the
958
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:20.480
knowing fills in the color, the knowing fills in the
959
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.960
experience or what you know you should be looking at.
960
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.159
So it's really knowing and seeing that's working together, same
961
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.039
with all of the other senses.
962
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:33.239
So going back to whoopee and ghosts, I always ask
963
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.000
mediums this as well, and psychics as well for that matter,
964
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:42.119
and channelers. Sometimes the open and clothes sign are you
965
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.039
open all the time? That you know? I'm in the
966
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.760
shower and someone pops, I'm like, dude, can you just wait?
967
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:50.840
It's four o'clock in the morning. You can wait two
968
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.239
or three hours till I get up? Is there an
969
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.639
on and off? Because I remember Whoopy's like, Sam, oh
970
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.360
my god, they're coming out of the woodwork all of
971
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.679
a sudden. I can't go anywhere without these damn goos
972
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.079
following me. What have you done? They're all coming to
973
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.159
me now. So it really is, you know, it's a
974
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.679
reference point of like when do you turn it on?
975
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.480
When you turn it off? Is that what is yours?
976
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.400
That you? Are you on all the time? Or can
977
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.679
you literally go? Guys, I'm closed right now, don't even bother.
978
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.400
I have developed the most healthy sense of introverted lifestyle
979
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.599
you could ever experience. I'm on all the time? Wow,
980
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.320
now it was? It was? But I have very good
981
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.400
support from Big Dog. And then another guide came in.
982
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.239
His name is Peter. He's been with me ever since,
983
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.480
so I have really good support structure. Guides sometimes don't
984
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.320
quite understand what you need and you and it's helpful
985
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.400
to say, hey, this is what I need in order
986
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.840
to be able to keep going. And there was a
987
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.440
time where I said I can't. I need to be
988
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.800
able to go to the store and just go to
989
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:50.400
the store.
990
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.960
So I have to walk up to someone, I'm sorry,
991
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:55.079
your aunt is here.
992
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.800
I'm sorry, but your aunt is here. So when someone
993
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.880
say do psychics turn it on and off? Do mediums
994
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.320
turn it on and off? I say no, they don't
995
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.360
necessarily turn it on and off. It's a practice ignoring.
996
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.679
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
997
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.599
and now back to the show.
998
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:20.480
So, if you have human on one side and spiritual
999
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.760
on the other, this is a teeter totter. This is
1000
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:26.840
a it's about So if you're having a very human
1001
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:32.119
experience a wedding, a funeral, a graduation, your intuition is
1002
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.159
not going to be very on. And I have students
1003
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:37.280
come back to me years after taking the course and go, oh,
1004
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.480
where did my intuition go? And my first question is
1005
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:42.800
what's going on in your life? Well, we're moving. Your
1006
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.039
intuition's over here. It's just quiet because it's so human.
1007
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.840
So if you focus really strongly on the material world
1008
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.599
and the solid and the human experiences, intuition kind of
1009
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.000
takes a bit of a back seat. But when we
1010
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:02.000
get quiet, it tips the other way. So that's a
1011
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:03.960
way to practice ignore.
1012
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.559
And is there are the spirit guides kind of like
1013
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.679
the guys at the door, like letting people into the
1014
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.599
party or not letting people into the party kind of thing.
1015
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:13.320
Are they like protected like a bouncer almost?
1016
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.199
I think we have to be our own bouncer.
1017
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.400
Okay, So, but you said that they help you, so
1018
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.599
that they do so because from what I understand a
1019
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:21.800
lot some other mediums I've spoken to that they that
1020
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.280
their spirit guides kind of filter out like, oh, hey, yeah,
1021
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.039
she's not on right now, she'll be back at three
1022
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.000
kind of And that's that they do that kind of stuff.
1023
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.239
Especially if you're stepping into any sort of a calling
1024
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:35.639
as a medium. Your guides know where you want to go.
1025
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.280
They've seen your entire life, they know your goals, and
1026
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.599
so they're going to not only challenge you to do
1027
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.159
inner work to heal to make sure you get to
1028
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.119
those goals, but they're going to make sure that nothing
1029
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.840
really comes into your life that derails you from that.
1030
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.039
So they don't give anything it can't handle, because if
1031
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:55.920
you can't handle it, you won't do the job that
1032
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.400
you've said you're going to do. And you're here to
1033
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.400
do that, and you're here to do that job. So yes,
1034
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.679
I doe shielded from a lot of things. And if
1035
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.519
I'm shielded from something, it's just not supposed to be there.
1036
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.039
So I teach a foundational I teach anybody and everybody
1037
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.159
on the planet that will listen to this. I teach
1038
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.639
a foundational tool that is eighty percent of intuition. It's
1039
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.559
just it's called GCP and I learned it from Big Dog.
1040
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.599
It's Ground, Clear Protect. We all know what those three
1041
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.840
things are, but when done in order, it addresses your
1042
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.840
physical body, your programming body, and your spiritual body. All
1043
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.920
over the globe, we have people talking about the three
1044
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.119
bodies in different ways. I say spiritual body, programming body,
1045
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.280
physical body, physical body. You know what that is. Spiritual body,
1046
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:41.840
that's our soul. Programming body is our mind on linear time.
1047
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.440
It's who it's I'm bo. I'm sitting here at this table.
1048
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.800
You know it's Monday. So that's the programming body. And
1049
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.079
Ground takes care of the spiritual body. Clear takes care
1050
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:55.679
of the programming body, and then Protect takes care of
1051
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.360
the physical body. I got those backwards. Grounding takes care
1052
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.920
of the physical and then spiritual body is taken care
1053
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.599
of by the clearing, and then you protect. So these
1054
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:11.800
three practices acknowledge your energetic body, clear it out so
1055
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.000
you're not caring what you're not supposed to carry. You
1056
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.280
can do this for your house as well. You can
1057
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.239
do this for your car. Let's say do this for
1058
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.960
office sage. I just I'm very boring medium. I just
1059
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:24.800
kind of go like this and then it's done. So
1060
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.199
I'll ground and then I'll clear all the energy out
1061
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.280
of my house. It's not supposed to be there. And
1062
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.599
I'll protect, not isolate, but put a bubble up that filters,
1063
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:37.000
and that's my boundaries. That's I use it for myself.
1064
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:38.599
I use it for a house.
1065
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:41.920
The one thing that a lot of people don't understand
1066
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:48.360
is that you can be a medium without well if
1067
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.239
you can be a psychic without being a medium, but
1068
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.559
you can't be a medium without being a psychic. Yes,
1069
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:52.920
I have.
1070
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.199
One of my favorite analogies is if the person that
1071
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.960
you're reading is a lake, a body of water. A
1072
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.360
psychic runs off the dock, jumps into the water and
1073
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.599
swims around and explores to wherever they're drawn to. And
1074
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.800
a medium runs the end of the dock and goes, Okay,
1075
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.400
I gotta wait for a boat, and the boat comes up,
1076
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.519
and so whoever's in that boat on a loved one,
1077
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.639
a guide, they go get in and then they drive
1078
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.559
you over here and they go jump down there and
1079
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.079
find that out. So that's the difference between psychic and medium.
1080
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.079
So since you're on all the time, I have to
1081
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:30.119
ask you anyone here, anyone hanging out? I've asked this before.
1082
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:35.599
Yes, absolutely no. My practice ignoring game is strong, so strong. No,
1083
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:36.760
I'm here with you, You're.
1084
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:38.599
Here with me. So there's not like anyone hanging out
1085
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:39.360
behind me or anything.
1086
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.800
But if there was, I would tell you can practice
1087
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:45.800
ignore all day long. If you have to say something,
1088
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.480
it will always come through.
1089
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:48.760
What do you mean, if you.
1090
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.400
If a guide or a loved one, if it's going
1091
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:56.280
to be important on your path, that something said in
1092
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.639
this moment will There's no amount of ignoring I can do.
1093
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:00.679
It has to happen.
1094
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.639
It has to happen. And I believe strongly in asking
1095
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.639
permission too, So if it happened, I would say to someone,
1096
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:09.920
I'm a medium, this is what I do. I've got
1097
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:11.800
some information coming in. Are you open to it?
1098
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.800
That's something that's really interesting as well that people don't
1099
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:21.360
understand about mediums is the ethical aspect of it. And also,
1100
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:23.920
I've said this before, but I think it's important to
1101
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.159
say it again. Just because you're a psychic medium doesn't
1102
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:31.400
mean you're a good person. Thank you, Okay, I mean yes,
1103
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.559
Just because you have this gift or you've developed this gift,
1104
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.360
does not mean that you are on the spiritual path.
1105
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.920
You know. I know many back in the day psychics
1106
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:46.400
who are little shady, a little shady, you know, there's
1107
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.480
stuff they're dealing with, their own problems, but they're able
1108
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:50.920
to do the job. They understand that. So a lot
1109
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.960
of people open themselves up when they because I told
1110
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:56.440
you that Grandma's is in the room and I could
1111
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:58.920
tell you some cool stuff, you must be all spiritual,
1112
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.519
all good because of that. That's not the case at all.
1113
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:06.280
Not at all. I have had clients come to me
1114
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.000
after being taken for thousands of dollars.
1115
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:09.480
Oh yeah.
1116
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.880
I have had gurus come up to me and say things.
1117
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.119
You know, you know the guru that's like eighteen years old.
1118
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:24.800
I love those. They're fantastic because they they seem so wise, they're.
1119
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.760
Soyond there, beyond their years.
1120
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.880
I listen, I have nothing against, nothing against the youngins,
1121
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.559
and that's all good, I get it, And there are
1122
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.119
historically some very born.
1123
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.800
If you meet someone who is born and absolutely tapped
1124
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:47.719
in at eighteen, they do not present themselves that way, agreed,
1125
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.559
They do not present They just present themselves. If an
1126
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.960
eighteen year old guru walks up to you and says,
1127
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.360
my child, I'm done, We've we've ended this conversation.
1128
00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:01.280
Yeah, it's It's interesting because I've a lot of studying
1129
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.159
and research in the Eastern philosophies in the Eastern you know,
1130
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.840
yogic philosophy and all that kind of stuff. So there
1131
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.519
are stories of young gurus that were born in I
1132
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.920
always say, like every soul comes in and we all
1133
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.159
have something to work on. There are a handful, very
1134
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.320
few souls that come in fully realized and they get it.
1135
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.719
At three or four. They're just talking and they're like,
1136
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.920
what is happened? Very much like Jesus. When Jesus came in,
1137
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.320
he was challenging priests at five or six in the
1138
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.679
temple and they're like, who the hell is this kid?
1139
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.119
So he obviously was he didn't, he wasn't fully full. Sorry,
1140
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.119
the years of Jesus, you could talk about how he
1141
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:38.880
you know, went to the mystery schools, all that stuff.
1142
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.719
That's another conversation. But there are signs of that kind
1143
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:46.199
of stuff, but they will not present themselves as a guru.
1144
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.840
They will just usually just be in the room and.
1145
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.440
That alone will get you. You know, when you're in
1146
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.679
the room with a highly evolved soul. Yes, you feel
1147
00:57:57.719 --> 00:57:58.719
the energy. Yes.
1148
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:02.599
My number one red flag that I tell people is
1149
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:07.000
look for positioning. If you sense somebody is positioning with
1150
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.800
you in any way, shape or form, explain what positioning.
1151
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.880
I'm better than you, I know more than you. Oh no,
1152
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.000
oh god, I you know anything like that.
1153
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:15.719
It's all through me.
1154
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.760
It's all through me. I have reached a level that
1155
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:19.920
no one else can ever reach.
1156
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.440
And if you pay me five thousand dollars, I will
1157
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:23.480
teach you how to do that.
1158
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:27.559
But wait, there's more now, and there's another level at
1159
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.760
or we're going to go to another level. You just
1160
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.920
haven't learned this level yet. And when you learn this,
1161
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.320
so any kind of positioning. Now, with that said, I
1162
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:38.079
just want to briefly talk about what I call the
1163
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:40.440
special factor as well, because I want to talk about
1164
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.800
it from a very compassionate point of view. I joke
1165
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.920
about an eighteen year old like feeling really you know,
1166
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:53.400
like I'm I know that comes from a place of hurting,
1167
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:56.480
and it comes from a place of not being seen.
1168
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.360
When I see somebody that does have this kind of
1169
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.880
special fact about them, what I actually see is somebody
1170
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.519
who no one showed up for. No one showed up
1171
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:10.000
for them, and they need this right now. We're all
1172
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.719
here playing different roles and we all go through different cycles.
1173
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.559
I walked right up to the tai Chie guy and said,
1174
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.440
you gotta help me moved. We're weird, right, And I
1175
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.599
was hurting, and so that's all I knew. And so
1176
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:27.960
when I see someone who needs to feel that pride
1177
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.360
about what they like, I'm I'm so into it. I'm
1178
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.840
so that's what they need right now. That's actually part
1179
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.920
of their development and they're going to get somewhere. You know,
1180
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:42.000
we all go through this. That's another thing. Exactly every
1181
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:44.199
spiritual in every medium has an emo face.
1182
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:45.800
I'm going to watch the crow and listen to a
1183
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:48.920
lot of the cure.
1184
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.679
And then your guides go, we're gonna shut you down
1185
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:51.199
for a minute.
1186
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.800
And media so good at.
1187
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.159
Mediumship, and the guides go, okay, you're going to get
1188
00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:56.800
a time out.
1189
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.960
I'm like the most spiritual person spiritual, I'm the most
1190
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:00.639
spiritual person.
1191
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:01.840
And then on the other side of it, I'm the
1192
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.159
most humble person you'll ever know.
1193
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:04.000
I'm the humblest of that.
1194
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.920
I'm the humblest of the humble. You will never meet
1195
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another as humble.
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As me, or as spiritual as me, or spiritual is me,
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and it becomes and that's the That is the spiritual
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trap that a lot of people on this spiritual path
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will call because the ego will go, yes, we'll fight
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01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.039
it at first, yes, kind of like a medium ship.
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01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.079
They'll fight it because it's not part of what it knows.
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01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:25.280
But then all of a sudden's like, oh wait a mint,
1203
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.719
I'm getting attention. Oh I'm getting some money too. Oh
1204
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:31.039
I'm building something out this. Oh okay, let's jump on board.
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And now we are not only a spiritual person, we
1206
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.320
are the most spiritual person because it needs the ego needs.
1207
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So then you fall into the ego trap.
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Some people never get out of the ego trap. And
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that's okay, And you want to know why it's okay
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because we all need that teacher.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:58.000
And now back to the show, we all.
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Need that teacher. I had that teach, so I went
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out and searched out a couple of teachers. I had
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01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.440
that teacher, and I also had a compassionate teacher that
1216
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.599
never positioned with me and said that my path is
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unique just as hers is, and we're both going to
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grow at the same like in the way that we
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need to grow. So when you have both of those teachers,
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that is a lesson in itself. So some people who
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are that that positioning type teacher are here for reasons
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is we got to look at it in all these angles.
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Everyone plays any of the contrast. Yeah, and some people
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01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.800
that get stuck in that trap don't get stuck in
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01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:35.960
it for very long and then they come out of it,
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but they had to be in it to feel it
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and experience it right exactly.
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So So we have no one around us. That's fine,
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that's good. I just wanted to ask. I've had people like,
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you know, someone I'm like, okay, right right now, I
1231
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.760
don't not now kind of thing. One thing you didn't
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01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.119
answer before when you came out publicly. What did the
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01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:04.960
people around you, your friends, your business associates, your colleagues, family,
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01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.360
because a few of family weird, so they're gonna be
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01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:11.480
like finally. Others were like, what, so what was that
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01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:15.320
process like? And I asked very specifically because people listening
1237
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.639
right now are going through this version and it's either
1238
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.559
coming out as a psychic medium, a channel, or just
1239
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.159
coming out from as a spiritual person in a very
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01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:28.719
heavily religious background. That anything anything new ages.
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01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.440
The distructing and trying to figure it out all out.
1242
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:32.199
So that's why I asked this question to help people.
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01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.480
I would say about ninety seven ninety five to ninety
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01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.119
seven percent of my students are opening their intuition for
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01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:41.360
their own use, not for a professional use. So I
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01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:46.320
see this happening time and time again. Opening up spiritually
1247
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:50.360
is not simple for everyone, you know, but for some
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01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.360
people they were blessed with the family structure to support
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01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.239
them through the process correct. But for the most for
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01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.519
the most part, it's not easy and it's brutal. You
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01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.760
lose friends, that's painful. You get judged by the people
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01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:08.280
that you thought cared about you, that's painful. Here's the
1253
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.679
worst one for me. I woke up to how I
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01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.159
was being treated and allowing myself to be treated. I
1255
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.679
woke up. I woke up to the patterning and went, oh,
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01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.320
this is awful. What am I doing? And so with
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my with my relatives. I come from a Midwest family,
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01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.239
so my relatives were like, yeah, good, you finally figured
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01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.840
it out. So what do you want for dinner? Cool? Cool?
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I love them. My mom, we had some conversations and then.
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You know, we went to words.
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Words were exchange and she was fine and she was
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01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:45.320
We we had a really tumultuous relationship. It was the
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01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:50.079
friends that I lost a friend because she said I've
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01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.039
done something in my life and I'm scared you're going
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to see it and she cut me out. Wow yeah, whoa, yeah,
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because I was so.
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01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:01.280
I had a secret, she had a secret, and or psychics.
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01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.679
I could care less about your secret. But it's it's
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some of my friends, especially after they would see something
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01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.639
come something would come through and I would say something
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01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.880
and it would be like whoa. And then when you
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01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:21.840
do that with someone and they realize you're real, this
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01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:26.800
is actually real now they start thinking what can she see?
1275
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.639
So that's a very difficult piece. So the minute you
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01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:33.679
prove the mediumship to somebody, that insecurity comes pouring in.
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01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.119
So it shows it shows the true colors of the
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01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:41.400
person because now they don't feel safe right Like obviously
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01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.519
I speak to weirdos like yourself all the time, and
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01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.760
I have no fear of any of that kind of
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01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.960
stuff because it's just what I do. But I understand
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01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:52.639
if someone's like, wait a minute, that's that body that
1283
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.960
I buried last week, They're going to find out I cheated, cheated,
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01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.800
that kind of thing is it shows the true colors
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01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.800
of that person right away. It's really interesting with as
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01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:06.840
you get older, you know, I try to tell my
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01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.199
kids now that like, well my friends, I'm like, you
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01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.320
won't know any of these these kids in like next year.
1289
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.800
Like your your friends are going to change a thousand times.
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01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:19.639
If you're lucky, you might hold onto one or two
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01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:24.679
over the years if you're lucky. But as you get older,
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01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:30.159
there is a lot more baggage to deal with with
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01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:35.320
other people's other people's stuff, and making new friends is
1294
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:38.639
not an easy at least it isn't for me and
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01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:43.119
my FA and my wife like making new friends, we're
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01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:45.639
both pretty intuitive. We both feel it out really quickly.
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01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.119
Like when you and your husband or your partner came in,
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01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:49.960
it was like.
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Oh ah, awesome, our people.
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Our people. We just we hit it right away. You
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01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.000
saw Yoda, We had a George Lucas conversation. It was great.
1302
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.719
But you feel the vibe VI. Yeah, but it's harder
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01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.760
for a lot of people as you get older to
1304
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.480
deal with this. So I can only imagine adding the
1305
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:09.519
complexity of coming out as a psychoma.
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01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.480
It's very complex because I've run into a variety of
1307
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:18.480
situations and it depends on the person and where they're at.
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The good news, here's the great news. I only have
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01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:26.480
people in my life that are awesome, that are just incredible.
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They don't want anything for me. They love me for
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01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:31.159
actually who I am. What a concept. Didn't have that
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01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:35.480
for the first thirty some years, And especially when you're
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01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:38.800
a high achiever and they show up for me and
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they don't expect anything in return, and as a result,
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01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:44.360
I in return, how can I show up for you? However,
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01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.760
as a medium, especially if you've proved this is something
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01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:52.960
that's very real, there's a whole bunch of differences around there.
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And so I have the one friend that I remember
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01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:56.719
saying I can't be friends with you because you're going
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01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.079
to see what I did. I have another and I
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01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.079
would say that this woman more of an associate, super balanced,
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01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.159
super awesome, great woman, and I wanted to be friends
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01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:06.880
with her, And she says, I'm going to be very
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01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:09.079
honest with you. I'm not yet at a stage where
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I can be comfortable with this, but if I ever do,
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I kind of want to be friends with you too,
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really balanced, right. But then you know, then there's been
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01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.039
friends that I thought want to be my friend and
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01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:23.639
they just wanted They don't. They don't want any of
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01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.599
my opinion or advice. They just want me to tap
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01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.119
in all the time, all the time. Oh yeah, yeah,
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01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.360
And you're like, you don't really want me as a friend.
1333
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.119
If you just want a free psychic on time.
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Psychic of time. But the end result is that the
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01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:38.960
people that I have would go to the map for me.
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They love me unconditionally, and that is something I did
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01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.480
not have until I opened up.
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01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.519
But how do you get around the and I know
1339
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:54.199
this happens to you, to you folk, Uh, you you're
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01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.880
treated like a sideshow sometimes, yes, and it's a sideshow.
1341
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:03.039
It's so at parties or in public or even if
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01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.639
you're going out doing publicity or doing a show or
1343
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.719
something like that. If the person who's interviewing you're having
1344
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:10.719
a conversation with you, isn't really kind of tuned in.
1345
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:15.360
They literally treat you like a side show, you know,
1346
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:19.279
Carnival act almost. How do you not only feel about that,
1347
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.680
but how do you deal when that comes? I have
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01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.520
to imagine in twenty years that has come up at
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01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.359
one point or another, because you keep nodding your head.
1350
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:28.439
Oh yeah, So how do you deal with that? And
1351
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.399
what advice would you have for other people who would
1352
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:35.039
do that? And it's also we're talking about psychic medium
1353
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:37.199
but this is also for channelers. This is also for
1354
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.439
people who are spiritual, who are coming out of the
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01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:45.560
spiritual closet and they're having a conversation about reincarnation in
1356
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.279
a place that that's the devil's work. So it's not
1357
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:53.960
just this, it's different levels of it depending on what
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01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:55.199
you're trying to come out as.
1359
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:59.119
But what do you think, Well, there are two categories
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01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:02.159
that I've run into the Devil's work. That's simple, I
1361
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:03.880
can tell you. I just say we'll have a conversation
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01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.439
after after we die and then we'll straighten it out. Then,
1363
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:08.359
Like that's kind of how I move at with that
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because I see that. I see very clearly the in
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01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:17.760
a very compassionate way. Sure, of course I was indoctrinated,
1366
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.800
not in religion, but in my only child upbringing of
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01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.000
what I was taught to believe, what love is and
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01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:25.520
all of that. I mean, I had to work, I
1369
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:31.840
had to work very programmed into it, and I understand
1370
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:33.760
what it takes to move through that and get out
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01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.439
of it. So I just see that person as that's
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01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:38.039
where they are right now. It actually has nothing to
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01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:40.119
do with me. The other one, this is what we
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01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.039
call it. We call it Can I just ask one question?
1375
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:46.000
That's the phrase that comes Can I just ask one thing?
1376
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.279
And then you know it's coming up. So either that's
1377
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.680
coming from a place of joy and excitement and hope
1378
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.439
that it's real, or it's coming from a place of
1379
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.760
they need, they truly need something, you know, to to
1380
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:01.680
they're confused, or they've got something going on, or they
1381
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:04.680
want to treat you like a side show. I had
1382
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.920
a gentleman come up once and he took his coat off,
1383
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:08.920
and he handed me the coat and he said, there's
1384
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:11.279
something in that pocket, But if you can tell me
1385
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.039
what's in the pocket of that coat. Well, he didn't
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hand it to me. He shoved it toward me and said,
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01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.159
if you can tell me what's in that pocket, I'll
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01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:17.680
believe you.
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01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.640
And I said no, we'll be right back after a
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01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:29.920
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. No,
1391
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:31.279
it's not my job to make it.
1392
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:35.239
I'm I don't dance. I'm not going to do this
1393
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.680
this We're not gonna do the medium dance, and so
1394
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.680
I just politely say no. In the beginning, I was
1395
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:46.920
so consumed internally that this. I was so scared about
1396
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.239
how I was seen in all this. And it's twenty
1397
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.680
years at this point. I know that whatever they're processing,
1398
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:54.880
their processing, and all I can do is politely just
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01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.239
say no, it's not really about me anymore.
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So you mentioned that big dog, greatest name for a
1401
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:07.279
spiritual guide I've ever a big dog explained to you
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01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.119
how kind of like how the whole system is working.
1403
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.119
You mentioned about a box or something like a time
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01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:14.159
box or something like that.
1405
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.119
Oh, time boxes.
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01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.640
What are time boxes? I've never heard that one before.
1407
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.520
When I teach, I make it really clear to people
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01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.840
that I'm not talking about things that are actually in
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01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.159
form We have to talk about these, and I teach
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01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:28.239
in analogies, and I teach in concepts, so I talk
1411
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.119
in terms of form, but this is just the concept
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01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.760
of how this works when we come down here. So
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01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:37.399
on the other side, can I actually reverse and please go?
1414
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:39.720
So I'll do that. I'll do the exit, yeah, and
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01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.119
then we're going to do the entrance. So when we pass,
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01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:43.800
like I said, we have three bodies. We've got the
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01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.239
physical body, the programming body, and the spiritual body. Physical
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01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.399
body that's the Earth, that's what's walking around on Earth.
1419
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:53.119
Programming body is who we were in this lifetime. And
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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.960
then the spiritual body is the soul. So when somebody crosses,
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01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.600
they first release the physical body. When they're going through
1422
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.079
that in between that we talked about earlier, they are
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01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.680
still carrying the programming body with their spiritual bodies.
1424
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:08.199
They're still bow. There's allalix. Yes.
1425
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:10.399
So I tell people as somebody's going through that, because
1426
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.039
they when they say, why did they get stuck? Right,
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01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.119
Because they're the exact same person they were here on
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Earth when they start their journey. And we're not perfect.
1429
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:23.159
Sometimes we'll panic, sometimes we'll stop right. But as that
1430
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.960
transition process automatically continues, you start to shed the programming body.
1431
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:31.800
That lifetime of here, and that's when you cross over
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01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.840
to the other side. That's why they say, people on
1433
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.760
the other side, it's not fear based. It's not You
1434
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:40.560
can't have fear if you don't have linear time. Linear
1435
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.920
time doesn't exist on the other side. It exists here.
1436
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:47.079
So when you deconnect, when you deconstruction from that linear
1437
01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:50.760
time programming body and let it go, you cross over
1438
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:53.520
and it's just your higher self, it's your soul, it's
1439
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.399
still your personality.
1440
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.520
Let me stop you one second. I want to dive
1441
01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.239
into something you just said. Fear doesn't exist in linearly
1442
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.920
only existing linear time. Yes, it's a really important idea
1443
01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.680
for people to grasp because fear is the fear of
1444
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.199
what is about to happen, exactly. But if there is
1445
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.520
no about to happen, because there is no time, fear
1446
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:19.479
cannot exist in that space exactly. So anything you're afraid
1447
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.079
of I'm afraid of dying, well that's in the future.
1448
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:23.319
Anything that you're afraid of, you're generally afraid of, it's
1449
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:26.119
coming in the future. Yes, you know that tiger is
1450
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.479
going to eat me in the next two seconds, that's
1451
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:30.520
in the future.
1452
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:35.720
Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, it's hopefully that's a scary one.
1453
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:39.079
Exactly so, but that's really interesting for people to understanding.
1454
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.319
Your time is everything in this existence. Of course, when
1455
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:45.079
people say, you know, you come down to earth, why
1456
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:46.960
do you come here? And I do hear a lot
1457
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.560
of people say we come here to learn, and I agree,
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01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.680
But I think learning is under the umbrella of having experiences,
1459
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:57.800
because to learn would be to say that our higher
1460
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:01.920
self doesn't know anything. You're higher self already, you know,
1461
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:05.000
knows everything that's already happened to you anyway. The higher
1462
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.199
self is hungry for linear time experiences. Your higher self
1463
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:13.680
might like to garden or not. Garden, might like plants,
1464
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:17.000
might like the growth of that and be interested in it,
1465
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.800
but it's not going to understand the full experience until
1466
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:22.880
it goes into a body and it has to watch
1467
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:26.920
that garden grow. Those are the experiences that we're here for,
1468
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:28.520
are the linear time experience.
1469
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:30.279
So it would be the equivalent of me telling you
1470
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.720
if you put your hand in the fire, you're going
1471
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.800
to burn. And then and you tell your kids out
1472
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:36.920
as much as you want, but then until they put
1473
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:38.840
their hand in the fire that is.
1474
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.600
This, they're not going to have the full experience like.
1475
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:44.520
You can conte you can intellectually understand what's happening or
1476
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.840
conceptually understand what's happening. Yes, But and as anyone who's
1477
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:51.159
ever had children understands, just because we tell them something
1478
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:53.800
that's going to happen, yes, they sometimes just need to
1479
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:54.439
run into.
1480
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:56.520
The wall, yes, or they have to put the fork
1481
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:57.359
into the outlet.
1482
01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:57.640
Yes.
1483
01:14:57.680 --> 01:14:59.039
And then as parents we say, you're not going to
1484
01:14:59.079 --> 01:14:59.720
do that again, now.
1485
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.680
Are you experience?
1486
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.560
Don't Experients say that that's fair. That's fair. Millennials are
1487
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:08.079
much kinder about it.
1488
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.359
But okay, so you're going things.
1489
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:13.880
So on the other side, on the other side, you're
1490
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.239
now a soul. So this is how I explain it
1491
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.479
to my students. On the other side, your higher self
1492
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.560
is like a large ball of light, and you take
1493
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:23.680
a chunk of that light out and you throw it
1494
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.399
into a body and it runs around Earth, and then
1495
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.760
when it's done, it comes back. Now, because our higher
1496
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:33.000
self is not in linear time, that all happened in
1497
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.680
an instant linear time is the experience that we have
1498
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.239
down here in the body. So with that said, this
1499
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.920
is why all lifetimes are all happened at the same time. Anyway,
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01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:45.920
because they're not linear on the other side. But when
1501
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:48.520
we come down here, we need to get to the
1502
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:52.319
time boxes. We need a platform to be able to
1503
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:54.960
carry these experiences so that we can process them when
1504
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.720
we return. So the way the big Dog explained it
1505
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.880
to me, which I think is pretty helped full analogy.
1506
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.239
As you come down and time boxes are clear cubes,
1507
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.279
and again not really, we're just using an analogy here,
1508
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:11.159
but there are clear cubes that are cubes on purpose
1509
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:12.880
because when you get into linear time they need to
1510
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:15.600
hold there not sphares that are smooth that can move,
1511
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:21.520
and they're filled with unmarked emotion. You go down in
1512
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:25.479
every experience that you have from birth marks the emotion
1513
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.359
in each of these timecubes. Now we have an unlimited
1514
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.800
amount of time cubes throughout our body, you know, time boxes,
1515
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:36.680
and we start to accumulate all of these experiences. This
1516
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:39.520
is where we store trauma. This is why our muscles
1517
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.920
have memory, like store memory, and these time boxes are
1518
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.520
built to hold us in linear time, to anchor us
1519
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.239
here into a body because our spirit can be kind
1520
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:53.079
of smooth, slippery. So it's one analogy to be able
1521
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.760
to say how we anchor in but we all come
1522
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.520
down with a blank slate of emotion, and then the
1523
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:02.680
emotion get colored. This is in essence, a way to
1524
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.159
describe the programming body. So when you start to change
1525
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.800
your programming body, you recognize that it's what happened to
1526
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.000
you in your younger years. And what happened to you
1527
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:14.399
in your younger years was the emotion within your time
1528
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:18.319
boxes became colored for different this color or that color
1529
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.079
compared to whatever experience they had, and.
1530
01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.359
Then you slowly you can release them in this lifetime.
1531
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:24.640
But when you get on the other side, there's a
1532
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:25.720
processing of that.
1533
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.319
Yeah, So when you when you cross back over, when
1534
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.600
you decide it's time to head back home, and you
1535
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:33.359
let go of the physical body, that programming body, that
1536
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:39.800
massive time boxes is now breaking apart, showing the experiences,
1537
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.199
bringing the experiences back to the other side.
1538
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:44.279
Would that be that life review? Yes, part of the life.
1539
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:48.800
That's part of life review. I've also heard that sometimes
1540
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:53.640
that souls have to go through kind of a decompression chamber,
1541
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:56.159
if you will, as use an analogy, kind of the
1542
01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.520
process trauma process. A lot of that craw that they
1543
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.199
picked up down here. This is intense down here, This.
1544
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.359
Is very intense this is intense down here, It's.
1545
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:07.039
A very intense.
1546
01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:08.760
This is why did I sign up for this?
1547
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:09.199
Yes?
1548
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:09.479
Is?
1549
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.359
Yeah, yeah, this is It's very much like giving birth
1550
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:14.439
when I understand, like when you're giving birth, you're like,
1551
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.600
I'm never doing this again, and then about a year
1552
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.079
in like I think I could have another one, and
1553
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:25.239
you're like, forget of how much pain you with? So
1554
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:27.840
is there is it? From your understanding? Kind of like
1555
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:32.000
this a healing center I've used I've heard many different
1556
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.000
terms for it, but I like to call it a
1557
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.800
decompression chamber because you are literally decompressing. You're like in
1558
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:40.920
this dense, dense, dense experience with all this stuff at
1559
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:42.439
the bottom of the ocean, and as you go up,
1560
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:44.960
you're gonna get the bends and you might not be
1561
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:46.960
able to do what you need to do on the
1562
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.439
other side. That this kind of compression ship. I heard
1563
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:52.680
my grandmother. A medium told me that about my grandmother.
1564
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.319
She's like, yes, you had to go through many quote
1565
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:58.960
unquote days in that chamber to decompress a lot of
1566
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.520
the trauma that she went through in this lifetime, which
1567
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.880
was a lot. Is that what you understand as well?
1568
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:09.720
Very similar, very similar. I see it in uh sort
1569
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:12.880
of levels of releasing. Yeah, so very similar to that
1570
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.560
when we're very close to Earth. And so we go
1571
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.920
back to that concept of spirits that are hanging around
1572
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:22.800
I hate the word stuck, but hanging around chilling. It
1573
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.479
is chilling, chilling, the chilling, just chilling. They're anchored into
1574
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.760
some of the energies that are closest aligned to this
1575
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:35.520
Earth based experience, which would be time, sometimes, fear, hate,
1576
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:40.199
things like this, things that are really anchored into the timeline.
1577
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:42.840
And then as you go further up and you're doing
1578
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.439
this transition process, you release out of things that are
1579
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.239
solidly connected to the timeline and you get closer to
1580
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:56.079
the things that are not connected to the timeline at all, love, compassion, unity,
1581
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.439
things like this. So that's how I see people processing.
1582
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:01.520
The first time boxes to release are going to be
1583
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:04.119
the ones that you're stuck on something, you had a
1584
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:06.560
fear of, something you do need to release that. And
1585
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:08.960
then as you move up, you start to remember who
1586
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.439
you are, not just in that one lifetime, but as
1587
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:16.079
a whole, and then the crossing over process just sort
1588
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:17.319
of unfolds.
1589
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:22.039
And my understanding as well is like when like that
1590
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:26.520
ant came down about the pie. We'll be right back
1591
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:32.600
after a word from our sponsor. And now back to
1592
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:38.840
the show. That soul, that higher self is putting on
1593
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:41.800
the jacket, if you will, yes of that ant any
1594
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.239
because she's not the ant anymore. It's over. I mean,
1595
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.359
she was also a Roman emperor. She was also Cleopatra,
1596
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:52.199
because everyone was Cleopatra. Everyone was Cleopatra, you know, Joan
1597
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:55.239
of Arc but you were many other lifetimes. Well, so
1598
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.359
you wore many suits, yes, along the way. But when
1599
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.640
she's coming back in, she not coming back in is Clearpatra.
1600
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:05.680
She's coming back in as Auntie Anne, because that's who
1601
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.720
you recognize. So if I asked for Robin Williams to
1602
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.600
show up, the soul that was Robin Williams will show
1603
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:12.920
up through the through.
1604
01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.920
The mask, or the lens, through the lens of Robert.
1605
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:18.000
Williams, because that's who I can connect with, not his
1606
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.680
other lifetimes that he's he's experienced that sole experience.
1607
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.760
That makes sense, it does, And when you explain this,
1608
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.159
that can sometimes bring up a little bit of fear
1609
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:29.640
with somebody that like, my grandma's not my grandma then.
1610
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.119
And so that's when I explained to people on the
1611
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:35.560
other side, these balls of light, your higher self as
1612
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:37.319
a ball of light. Right next to you is another
1613
01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:39.439
one that's a soulmate. Right next to you is another
1614
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:43.119
one that's a soulmate. We're all over there. Imagine that's
1615
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:45.439
a sole family. It's a soul family. Yeah, it's the
1616
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:48.600
it's the core group. It's your buddies.
1617
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.640
My wife always jokes, she's like, there was once there
1618
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.720
was a medium that came to the studio and said, oh,
1619
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:57.239
you guys have been together a lot. And she said,
1620
01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.800
this seene number of how many times we've been together
1621
01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:04.720
over many lifetimes in one way, shape or form, daughter, father,
1622
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:06.760
all this kind of stuff. And she's like, oh, I
1623
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:11.239
must have been in a hurry on this one. Absolutely,
1624
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.039
She's like it seems excessive. I mean, there's nobody else
1625
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:15.079
in the universe I can hang with.
1626
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.399
You said, you guys, now it's you and me here
1627
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:20.640
we are. This is me and my partner too. I'm like, well,
1628
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.119
two goes long enough to connect, but I'm glad we did.
1629
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.000
But on the other side, if we're all each higherself
1630
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.479
as a ball of light, they're all connected by a
1631
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.840
multi dimensional spider web, you could say, goes in all directions,
1632
01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:35.439
and every intersection of that web is a soul, it's
1633
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.039
higher self. And when we come down here, before we
1634
01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:41.800
even come down here, you're gonna chat with your soulmate
1635
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.159
and be like, Okay, when I'm forty three, I'm gonna
1636
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:47.279
run into you on Main Street and then we're just
1637
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.039
gonna party for the rest of our lives. Yeah, got it.
1638
01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:52.199
And you come down here and you do that. So
1639
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:55.800
in one sense, in a very human sense, yes, that's
1640
01:22:55.840 --> 01:23:01.159
not your grandmother specifically, but that is your soul speaking
1641
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:03.560
through the experience that you and your soulmate had in
1642
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.439
this particular lifetime.
1643
01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:09.960
So I'm going to change change topics for a second
1644
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:13.840
about the and I ask this of many people who
1645
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:15.840
come on the show about what's happening right now in
1646
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.239
the world. When you came out twenty years ago, a
1647
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:22.520
little bit under twenty years ago as a professional, but
1648
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:25.760
since the experience about twenty years ago, the world was
1649
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:29.640
a lot different. Yes, in regards to this stuff spirituality,
1650
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.560
people awakening to I like to I use movie references
1651
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.880
all the time. So seeing the code and the matrix,
1652
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.279
like people are starting to awaken more and more, the
1653
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:42.000
things around us seem to be crashing down around us.
1654
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:48.199
These institutions, religious, political, economic, food systems, medical systems, media,
1655
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.920
all these systems are cracking things that you and I
1656
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.600
thought as we were growing up were infallible, like you know,
1657
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:59.399
the movie studios, like they're giants, you know, the Catholic Church,
1658
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:00.800
the Vatican what.
1659
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.960
Like, you know, like you know everything like politics will
1660
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.760
be always will There's never you know, you know, our government,
1661
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.439
Oh my god, it will never come crashing down.
1662
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:16.159
And now you're like, look at that, there's there well
1663
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:17.760
be some cracks in the in the system.
1664
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:21.079
Is my favorite way of saying that is well, that's interesting.
1665
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.560
That's that's exactly how I look at That's how I
1666
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:25.319
look at life as well. Now it's like, oh, that's
1667
01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:29.079
kind of interesting that's happening now. But all this stuff
1668
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.840
seems to be happening, and people are really kind of scared,
1669
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.680
yes about what is happening, why it's happening. From your
1670
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:39.479
point of view as a psychic, I'm assuming you've at
1671
01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:41.840
one point another tapped into like, hey, where are we
1672
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:43.560
going guys?
1673
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:44.760
Yeah, so it's been.
1674
01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.039
A rough five years.
1675
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:47.960
I might have a question or two for you.
1676
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:50.800
Because you know, twenty twenty on, it's been. It's been
1677
01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:54.039
a rollercoaster for us, and every year seems to get
1678
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.279
almost worse than the year before, and this year was
1679
01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.039
no different. I mean we started off, I mean we've
1680
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.079
lost the Pope and la was on fire and I
1681
01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:03.159
mean wars.
1682
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:04.960
And yeah, but the new Pope, I'm here for it.
1683
01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:07.399
I mean the Chicago Chicago.
1684
01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:10.199
Is the Pope and I'm here for it. Well, I
1685
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:15.880
grew up in Minnesota. Yeah, and he's he's he's aligned
1686
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:18.760
with compassion and I just want to like give him
1687
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:21.000
a fist bump and yeah, so even though I mean
1688
01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:22.960
I'm not Catholic, but he's a good guy.
1689
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.279
But yeah, So anyway, so all this stuff is happening
1690
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.079
in the world, What what have you seen? What have
1691
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:32.319
you like talked about? You know, I don't need the
1692
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:35.880
lottery ticket numbers, but just curious, like to give people
1693
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:38.600
a little bit of peace of mind or at least
1694
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:42.279
information that will let them know that this is going
1695
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.560
to continue, probably will get worse, but there is hope
1696
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:46.800
around the corner.
1697
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.239
There's a plan. Yes, this is all part of the plan.
1698
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:51.680
This is a birthing process we're going through, right, Yes,
1699
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:52.439
so they explain to.
1700
01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:56.560
Him, Yes, Now, so my main guide now is Peter.
1701
01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:58.760
Big Dog pops in every now and then. But Peter
1702
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:00.840
has things to do, ask things to do.
1703
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:06.159
His name is big Dog. He's like he's surfing, surf
1704
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:06.680
he is.
1705
01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:09.720
He's like, that was a task, and he's telling the
1706
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.079
other guys like how hard it was to work with me?
1707
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:13.319
Yeah, is that any drinks?
1708
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.880
Yeah, he's having a my tide going, Oh, there's this
1709
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:16.800
one day where.
1710
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:23.439
She was like, what soo that was a project? Oh,
1711
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:26.279
that's a project. I had to go into that cold
1712
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:28.680
do you know for two years?
1713
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.359
The other guy that at the bar is like, oh
1714
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:32.880
I had a tough one that I had to wake
1715
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.079
up and open up and legs like you don't even know,
1716
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:36.640
you don't even know.
1717
01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:38.520
And she's still and she's.
1718
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:44.079
Still a project. Yes. So Peter is my current guide
1719
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.479
and he's the one that I go to to say, hey,
1720
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:48.720
what's going on now. I want to proface this by
1721
01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:52.840
saying just two things. I'm also human. In anybody that's
1722
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:54.800
in the spiritual realms that says they don't have the
1723
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:58.239
human experience, run, run, run. Thank you for saying that
1724
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:01.239
out loud. Run as fast as you can. I have
1725
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:03.520
my days. I will be watching the news, and I
1726
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:07.720
will feel all the human feels around this too. The
1727
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.079
second thing I want to say is I also know
1728
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:14.079
when to trust my intuition and when not to. It's
1729
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:17.199
hard to get intuitive information for yourself because if you
1730
01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:20.399
have too much of a vested interest in the outcome.
1731
01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:23.920
Is my sister going to be okay? Is my dad
1732
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.439
going to be okay? It gets very muddied. And this
1733
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.279
is why it's hard to get information for ourselves. Really
1734
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.840
good intuitives, like you said earlier, some are outstanding. You
1735
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:35.399
want to know why they're outstanding. I can tell you
1736
01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:39.399
exactly why an intuitive is outstanding. They know when it's
1737
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:44.680
not intuition. When you can recognize that, then all of it,
1738
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:47.600
then all of it's outstanding. It's either intuition or it's
1739
01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:49.960
your left brain, it's your logical brain trying to put
1740
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.239
your input in and your opinion, your and such. When
1741
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:58.960
an intuitive can actually sense that and they know, then
1742
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:02.359
it's rockstar. So those are the things that I will
1743
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.239
say now. With that said, the information that I've gotten
1744
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:08.239
from Peter over the years. This started back in twenty nineteen.
1745
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:10.960
So right before Hey, there's going.
1746
01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:12.920
To be this thing, Yes, there's going to be this thing.
1747
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.640
So I taught the Sage method. It's a seven week
1748
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:17.319
in two it. Of course, I taught that since two
1749
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.720
thousand and I want to say eight, right after Big
1750
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:21.159
Dog told me to bring it out into the world,
1751
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:24.159
and I taught it in person, and you wouldn't know
1752
01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:27.039
it today, but I was very hiding behind the scenes
1753
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:30.159
person and Big Dog told me in two thousand or
1754
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.239
Peter told me in twenty nineteen, I need you to
1755
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.800
record this put this online. I said, I need you
1756
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:36.520
to check yourself, because there's no way I'm going to
1757
01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:39.800
be a video.
1758
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.319
Anybody for anybody to watch.
1759
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.239
And Peter rolled his eyes, and then I put it
1760
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.560
on video and put it out into the world. A
1761
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:48.439
couple months later, the pandemic hits. And so now I'm
1762
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:51.199
starting to ask him, how did you tell me? Well,
1763
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:56.000
what's going on? And what can we expect? In essence?
1764
01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:59.880
And I don't bring politics into my teachings and stuff
1765
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:03.800
I can tell you in an analogy twenty nineteen, twenty
1766
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.000
twenty was about taking all of us were one giant
1767
01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:12.399
bucket of water, and it was taking all of us
1768
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.760
shaking it up until all the mud and the soot
1769
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.479
came up to the top and we went, wait a minute,
1770
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:22.279
our water's not very clean and clear like we thought
1771
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:27.880
it was. So COVID did a It was so brutal,
1772
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.920
but some of the little things that came out of
1773
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:34.880
it were beautiful because people got to stop and look
1774
01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:36.960
at their job and go, am I really supposed to
1775
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:39.720
do that? People had to go inward? Am I with
1776
01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.119
the right person? So that was the beginning. And then
1777
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:44.720
I said, Peter, the beginning of what can you please
1778
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:46.800
tell me the endgame so I'm never scared again? And
1779
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:49.680
he said no, I'm just kidding. But that was the
1780
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:54.600
beginning that had to go through. Hate had to be exposed,
1781
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:57.600
negativity had to come up. We had to see that
1782
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.960
it was really still there lying on the bottom. And
1783
01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:05.720
so parties in play welcome the mud to come back up.
1784
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:08.439
This is how it was explained to me. He said.
1785
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:11.920
It will settle, and then some of it will settle
1786
01:30:11.920 --> 01:30:13.640
all the way back to the bottom. This is where
1787
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.800
we are today. Some of it will only settle halfway
1788
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:19.119
down and then realize I don't want to go back
1789
01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:22.760
down there, and we'll clear it off. So you will
1790
01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.479
end up with less mud than we started. There will
1791
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.920
still be mud. We are not going. I don't see
1792
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:32.439
us going to like a perfect, a mudless, a mudless,
1793
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.720
clear perfect for a while, for a while, for a while,
1794
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:38.479
there will be little less and less and less and
1795
01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:39.720
less mud as we go.
1796
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:44.239
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
1797
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:49.119
and now back to the show.
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01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:54.880
And it will it will be outgrown. But the people
1799
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:58.760
that are waking up are waking up on purpose this
1800
01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:01.800
whole thing. If this didn't happen, we wouldn't be waking up.
1801
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:05.239
So it is the it's the tougher side of the
1802
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:07.479
spiritual awakening. And I saw it as kind of a
1803
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.039
bell curve. We're heading to the bell curve. And I
1804
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.119
remember Peter said twenty twenty five is going to be
1805
01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:15.920
the year. So he told me this twenty twenty two,
1806
01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:18.079
because I kept going, dude.
1807
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:20.720
Dude, just give me, dude me, how long I.
1808
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:21.920
Gotta hold on here because.
1809
01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:23.560
This is this is getting wild, this.
1810
01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:25.760
Is getting tough. And he said, twenty twenty five is
1811
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.159
the year. It's a really good year. So twenty twenty
1812
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.680
five comes and it came out hot and bumpy, literally
1813
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:34.560
like right out of the gate, right, But this has
1814
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:35.039
to happen.
1815
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:35.640
This is a.
1816
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:41.119
This is an extinction burst. This is uh, these systems
1817
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:46.920
will not remain, and those and that which is holding
1818
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.960
on to those systems are absolutely panicking because those systems
1819
01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.319
aren't going to be in place in the near future.
1820
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.479
And when all you know is all you know and
1821
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.159
that's taken away from you, you pan If you have
1822
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.279
a ten year old child who was raised by an
1823
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:07.680
abusive parent and that's all they know, that kid is
1824
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:09.520
not going to be happy when you pick them up
1825
01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:13.159
to take them away. Over time, they'll heal and they'll learn,
1826
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.239
but that's all they know. So part of the spiritual
1827
01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:20.479
awakening is opening up and waking up and going hey,
1828
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.399
there's also comparisons in here too. There's a reason we're
1829
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:26.600
not all awakening at the same time. You have to
1830
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.119
have those that are not waking up to those that
1831
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:31.720
are in order to see that people are waking up.
1832
01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:34.520
This is basic logic. Is everybody going to wake up?
1833
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:37.119
I don't think so. I don't think so, because everyone
1834
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:38.840
plays their role, and every.
1835
01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:39.359
Role is important.
1836
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.439
Well, we need contrast, we need the contract, we need
1837
01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:42.960
Darth Vader.
1838
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:45.720
We can't have a whole world full of things of
1839
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:47.000
Luke skywalkersh You have.
1840
01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:50.359
To or there's no story. We came down here first story.
1841
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.479
I mean, as a storyteller and one who's spoken to
1842
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:57.960
every major story guru on the planet on my other shows,
1843
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:03.039
without a good villain, one without conflict, stories are boring.
1844
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:07.359
People in the next five years are going to understand unity,
1845
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:11.239
connection and compassion on levels that many before them did not.
1846
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:13.960
Why as a result of walking through this?
1847
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:18.239
So this, so this is that's the question. What is this?
1848
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.560
So these systems are going we see it. It's happening.
1849
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:25.079
It's happening. Our monetary system is going to probably collapse
1850
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:27.880
at one point or change, change, change it. There will
1851
01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:31.039
always be something, but it'll change. We've already seen that
1852
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.720
with cryptocurrencies, things like that. There's a there's a birthing
1853
01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:39.199
process that every area is changing. Media right now, we
1854
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:42.680
are having a conversation and this, this episode will probably
1855
01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:46.840
get more attraction than many shows on cable. They'll just
1856
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:47.720
get more viewers.
1857
01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:49.960
Things have just the script flipped.
1858
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.439
It's upside down. You know. There's there's a kid right
1859
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:55.840
now with the phone going no, no, no, no, I'm pranking somebody,
1860
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.359
and they're going to get five billion freaking views. So
1861
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.800
you can't have that many eyeballs. That's completely not traditional
1862
01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:06.840
media religion. People are leaving religion in droves.
1863
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:12.479
They're either leaving it or they're redefining and reconnecting to community.
1864
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.760
Right. And also so like a friend of mine's a
1865
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:19.680
cafeteria Catholic. I love that term. She's she just goes in,
1866
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:22.399
takes what she likes, and she walks in and that's it,
1867
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:25.079
and that's the way she works it. And in many
1868
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.720
ways I joke as a recovering Catholic, but I but
1869
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.520
I'm also a cafeteria Catholic because I grab things that
1870
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.600
of Jesus's teachings that makes sense to me, as I
1871
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:35.960
did with Buddha, as I do with Yogananda, as I
1872
01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:37.720
do with so many of the masters who walked on
1873
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:41.720
the earth before. So I'm redefining my spirituality and it's
1874
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:46.680
not a third party, thank you, that is controlling my connection.
1875
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:48.920
With We're cutting out the third party of a lot
1876
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:52.199
of things, and we're cutting out the middleman in the
1877
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.920
middle end like that. Oh, the middleman does not like this.
1878
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:00.720
The middleman hasn't done the inner work, is what I
1879
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.439
like to say. And the middleman does not like this.
1880
01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:08.159
What do you mean? I have to change that tension
1881
01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:11.119
and that conflict needs to be there for the greatness
1882
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:15.880
of overcoming it to be an experience. And it stinks.
1883
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.840
And I'm not the teacher that says to my students, Oh,
1884
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:23.159
everything's going to be perfect. I'm the teacher that says, why,
1885
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:27.079
let's stay curious and let's stay interested, and then let's
1886
01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:28.399
get to the root of it. Like you said, this
1887
01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:30.680
is a birthing process. If you walk into any birthing
1888
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:32.319
room in the middle of a contraction and be like,
1889
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:34.880
isn't this fantastic, You're really good, you're giving, she's going
1890
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:36.960
to be like, not now, not now, give me some
1891
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:38.880
and get out of here. Give me some SIPs and
1892
01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:43.399
get out of here. There's there in this and throughout
1893
01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:45.800
this spiritual awakening that's happening. And it started more like
1894
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:49.079
two thousand and seventeen, I would say, really, and then
1895
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:53.840
it started to ramp up. Uh, there's been waves. You know,
1896
01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:56.840
you're in the ear in the filming industry. You saw
1897
01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:01.640
when it was popular for people to put out television
1898
01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:05.640
shows and movies that were like gotcha or slightly mean
1899
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or simon. Then you saw the shift into it's good
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to be kind.
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Yes, just look at Simon. Yeah, Simon is my favorite example.
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Let's see a Simon from America, America's idol. My daughters
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01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:25.079
were watching Gordon Ramsay the other day, watching Master Chef,
1904
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:27.600
and was started from like season one and they're like,
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01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:31.079
oh my god, he's so mean. I'm like, he's makes
1906
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Simon Cowell look like a puppy. Yes, and there's still
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glimpses of that in his newer shows that he's doing now.
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But he is so much softer, yes, than he used
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to be. It's just the nature of hopefully, as you
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get older, you lose a lot of that kind of energy.
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Generally speaking, Yes, this is true. I also think that
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there is a pattern that we go through that we
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will consistently go through forever on this earth, of going
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in and out of dark times, in light times, in
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dark times, the cycles. And right now, this spiritual awakening
1916
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comes with a cycle of hate and kindness, and hate
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and kindness. We're leaving that second cycle of hate and
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we're stepping into that last cycle of kindness to get
1919
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us into this next stage. So we are in a process.
1920
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And I don't even mean next stage like twenty thirty,
1921
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twenty seventy, I mean, in the next two years, people
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are waking up to what's actually important and they're starting
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to step away from the programming piece and they're starting
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to learn how they actually feel. So when we witness
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all this, this is what keeps me hopeful, knowing that
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01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:44.479
we've all grown up a whole lot. The fact that
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01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:48.199
more people know what narcissism is today then, isn't that glorious?
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It is.
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It's not glorious that it exists, but people, you're a narcissist.
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People can see the behavior, and the behavior is going
1931
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to start to become uncool again very fast, very fast.
1932
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And the ones that had the clicks in the views
1933
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and the loud voices of like what's that called fur
1934
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baiting things like this, they're going to start The skills
1935
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are tipping, and that's where we're headed.
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It's it's uh, it's interesting to see how media has
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changed a lot. I mean, you turn on the news,
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it's all fear and if it leads, it leads. It's
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just it's the way it is. It's still that way though.
1940
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You can just see that people aren't buying it anymore
1941
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because all of network news, all of cable news, their
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numbers are.
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Down the pendulum swings. This is the same thing what
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I what I saw with Simon, and society started to say,
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we want a little bit more kindness, and TV and
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film will step up to the plate. They want to
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be where you're at. And so as you see society
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move toward kindness, you're going to see that on TV.
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You're going to see that on what people are watching.
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What's popular, what's not popular, And nothing changes faster than
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when numbers drop.
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As you know, oh yeah, money, money talks, money talks
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and talks. Another's question about it. And if you start
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looking at what's popular right now, you know the things
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that we grew up with in the glorious eighties and nineties,
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those were good time. Well that's all we watch now
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is just rehashes of what we grew up with. By
1958
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the way, he Man and the Masters of the Universe
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is coming out soon live action, So yeah, it's coming.
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It's why not? Why not for that? Why not? Why
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wouldn't you?
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Why would you?
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I just watched you. I just watched the Karate Kids movie,
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the New Karate Kid movie, probably the best one of
1965
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the of the series. I loved it.
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Before we ever came down and we said, okay, he
1967
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Man and Shira, but that has to recycle again.
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Before we leave.
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Many times these things happen. But yeah, but you.
1970
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Look at those old movies and old TV shows and
1971
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you're just like you cringe sometimes you like, yes, you're like, oh,
1972
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like you watch any Arnold movie or any Sly movie
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other than Rockies maybe, but like the violence and.
1974
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The things that are and the things are in appropriate that.
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Oh my god, things that do not age well. There's
1976
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certain movies like we were talking about my wife and
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I were talking about Revenge of the Nerds. Oh, there's
1978
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:05.000
so much that movie that's not age well at all,
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Like it's brutal to watch, and you're like, oh, oh,
1980
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that's not gonna We'll be right back after a word
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from our sponsor, and now back to the show. It's
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just fascinating to see how our tastes have changed. I
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think we are kinder than we've ever been before. But
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also this other aspect, the contrast to that is also
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I think there's been more hate publicly than there has
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ever been in our lifetime. And I think you would
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agree that we always knew racism was there. Yeah, it's
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not a thing, of course, and there was hate and
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01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:50.279
discrimination even in the eighties and the nineties. It was
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there hidden behind, you know, the Me Too movement, with
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what happened with you know, being in Hollywood, I saw,
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01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:02.039
yeah things. I never went to a diddy but but
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it was a joke, but it was Uh. Dave Schappelle
1994
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:09.359
was like, why wasn't I invited? But there was a
1995
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running joke. It's like the casting couch. Yeah, that was
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a joke in movies, like people would talk about.
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It, but it was horrifically a real thing.
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But it was a thing. People are like, oh, if
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you want to get this part, you have to sleep
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01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:24.600
with the producer. Like it was a passing joke, and
2001
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:27.520
it was just part of the thing. Now that's obviously unacceptable.
2002
01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:31.800
Now there's intimacy coordinators on set to make sure that
2003
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:35.279
people having love scenes feel comfortable, you know, and and
2004
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:37.600
there's a correction that happened during that whole thing.
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01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:40.279
This is how I like to explain it. It was
2006
01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:46.119
never acceptable, But we're going from the I to the Wii.
2007
01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:50.239
It's slow, but it's slow. It's too slow for us.
2008
01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:56.560
And those that made it acceptable were never really on
2009
01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:57.319
the food chain.
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01:41:58.079 --> 01:41:59.840
No, the Harvey Wine scenes of the world and so.
2011
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:03.479
Were never they don't understand the fear that a human
2012
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carries when they're on the food chain, and when you're
2013
01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:11.560
at the top of that, there's no compassion or consideration
2014
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:14.199
for others because this is just how it was taught.
2015
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:16.600
This is that program teaching that's happening.
2016
01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:19.560
Oh, it was happening from the birth of Hollywood. Yes,
2017
01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:20.800
it's in the chaplain days.
2018
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:22.960
That was going on, absolutely, and you can see it
2019
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:24.840
in many many industries.
2020
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.880
And mustitutions and music publishing.
2021
01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:29.640
And people are starting to figure out and they're starting
2022
01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.279
to open up to that connection that this person standing
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01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:38.199
next to me is part of my community, part of uh.
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01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.760
That we are all connected, we're all one, We're all one,
2025
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.119
and people are starting to figure that out. So they're
2026
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:46.479
starting to have more critical thinking skills, which is fantastic,
2027
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.560
and then they're starting to also have compassion for others.
2028
01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:53.720
That's becoming stronger because the earth is changing, the vibration
2029
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.319
is changing, and this is a direct result of spiritual
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01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.520
growth for people, which painful.
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01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:02.920
Yeah. And the thing is too that you know we're
2032
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:05.840
we're talking about We said that things are moving slowly
2033
01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:09.760
in all in all honesty, things are moving at such
2034
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.840
a fast pace in the last one hundred and fifty years.
2035
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:16.319
What we thought was cool, yeah, one hundred years ago
2036
01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:22.119
is you know, there was millennia of human history the
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01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:23.439
things really didn't move.
2038
01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:26.279
Didn't move. We are we are skateboarding with no helmet
2039
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:28.159
down a steep hill right now.
2040
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:31.680
With rockets, with rockets like you know, those rockets.
2041
01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:34.560
Those like it was a dangerous dave. You know what
2042
01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:36.840
I'm talking about. The guy who's just run into walls
2043
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:39.079
and stuff all the time. He was that was the
2044
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:42.600
rockets on our skates. You are going down because we
2045
01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:45.199
are moving pretty quickly, and I think in these last
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01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:49.439
five years, so it seems to be going. It's just
2047
01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:52.920
it's it's it's a hockey stick auction going on.
2048
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:57.920
COVID broke the isolation. We were isolated. COVID broke that isolation.
2049
01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:01.720
You don't know what you miss until you people came
2050
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:06.399
out of that missing that connection, energetic connection and the
2051
01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:08.680
spiritual connection, even if they don't word it that way.
2052
01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:12.600
We all have different terms for these things. But they
2053
01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:17.880
realized that this is what's missing, and some of us
2054
01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.159
didn't know how to do it coming out of it,
2055
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.359
and some of us, I like to lightly joke, came
2056
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:28.119
out of the basement, caused some problems because they didn't
2057
01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:30.680
know how to do it. This is a huge opportunity
2058
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.960
for inner growth. That doesn't happen overnight. But wow, are
2059
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:35.079
we flying down that hill.
2060
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:38.319
And so you were saying that these next this year
2061
01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:40.720
is going to be a pivotal year for transition, and
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01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:44.640
it seems to be happening as it's happening now. My
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01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:48.560
understanding is these next I think seven years is what
2064
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:49.279
the number I have.
2065
01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:51.520
That is exactly the same number that Peter told me.
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01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:54.279
Seven He said seven years from now, it will be
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01:44:54.640 --> 01:44:56.840
this will be in the in the past, this will
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01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:57.079
be there.
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01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:58.640
But this is going to be a hell of a ride.
2070
01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:01.479
It's going to be ups and downs, and each down
2071
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.199
is going to get a little less low. So so
2072
01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:06.319
it's going to get it's going to start to wave
2073
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:09.000
length out and balance out until we can look back
2074
01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:09.920
and go That was rough.
2075
01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:12.239
That was tough, kind of like what we're looking at
2076
01:45:12.319 --> 01:45:14.760
COVID right now. Like you look at COVID, it seems
2077
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:15.600
like a bad memory.
2078
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:19.239
But if we look at the world today, we have
2079
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:23.880
one area of the world that is behaving badly. And
2080
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:27.119
probably should be in time out. And then those places
2081
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:28.520
A few of those places, there are a few of
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01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:30.840
those places, but we have a very influential place that
2083
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:33.960
is doing that right now. And the mirror work that
2084
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.079
people talk about in spirituality, where you see in somebody
2085
01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:40.359
else what you don't want to be, that's happening with
2086
01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:44.399
countries all over and out. Countries outside of that are
2087
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:47.319
looking at that and going, yeah, that doesn't look like fun.
2088
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:50.479
So I don't think we want to do that. And
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01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:53.479
then that gives people an opportunity to see their compassion
2090
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:56.600
within themselves and say this is important. Compassion is important.
2091
01:45:56.680 --> 01:46:00.520
Unity is important. So it's going to be uh more
2092
01:46:00.680 --> 01:46:04.439
unity quicker than we think. And I'm not talking about
2093
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:05.880
money and stuff like that. We got to work all
2094
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:07.399
that out. Those are gonna take It's gonna take a
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01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:10.199
little bit to work out. The people showing up for
2096
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:12.960
other people, that's the core of it. And when you
2097
01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:17.319
see somebody, let's say we're on the playground, our playground,
2098
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:18.640
remember our playground.
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01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:21.000
The ones that we're kids. How we are alive is
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01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:21.439
beyond me.
2101
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.279
It's not kicked out of them sometimes, right, And you
2102
01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:26.760
see that and you go, I don't I don't want
2103
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.680
to do that. That doesn't look good to me. So
2104
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:33.439
some of these things that are coming up are mirror exercises,
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01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:36.880
and that's what's going to get the world to unity.
2106
01:46:37.640 --> 01:46:40.880
But those mirrors are not fun. No, no, they're not fun.
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01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:43.039
So these next seven years is what I've heard. It's
2108
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:45.399
going to be a rough ride. There'll be ups and downs.
2109
01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:48.359
The downs will be less than before, but it's gonna
2110
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:50.479
be Yeah, it's gonna be you strap it.
2111
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:56.840
Yeah, And everyone that has been actually suffering for so long,
2112
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:01.920
hidden under the carpet that nobody paid attention to, people
2113
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:04.560
are starting to see it and they're starting to show
2114
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:06.319
up for those people, and you got to do the
2115
01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:08.760
hard work to see it and show up.
2116
01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:10.600
But one thing also I'd like to put out there,
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01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:12.239
and I'd love to hear your thoughts about it, is
2118
01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:17.000
that just because things around you might be going crazy,
2119
01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:22.119
it is your experience and your path that you make
2120
01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:27.199
choice to what to focus on that will determine your life.
2121
01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:29.640
So I said this so many times, like during the
2122
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.880
eight Crash, during the Great Depression, there are people who's
2123
01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:38.600
thrived in those experiences. During COVID, many businesses were born
2124
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:42.720
out of that. Many families, many relationships were born out
2125
01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:46.279
of that kind of chaos and they were not touched
2126
01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:49.680
as much as others were. So it's not like a
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01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:53.159
sentence like, oh, we're all going to jail. We're all
2128
01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:55.960
going to have to walk through the fire. Some don't
2129
01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:58.800
have to because we've already kind of either you've chosen
2130
01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:02.560
not to, and you could be more like that's really interesting, Yeah,
2131
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:06.039
kind of you become the observer and not the participant. Yes,
2132
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:07.439
would you agree with that?
2133
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:12.560
I would agree that that's that's happening. What I ask
2134
01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:16.159
of others is if this fire isn't burning, you show
2135
01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:16.760
up for somebody.
2136
01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:17.960
That is absolutely Yeah.
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That's my thing is is if I had to break
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it down into just one sentence of what's happening on
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the globe is every person is getting an opportunity to
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start showing up for someone else. And when we do that,
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we are going to be so.
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Powerful, right, because you're basically going back to what Jesus says, Yeah,
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you know, be kind to you know, be kind to
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treat yourself, to treat others as you want to be treated.
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The Kingdom heavens within you, all this stuff.
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So how does somebody get through this right, How does
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somebody go, Is it thanks Bo, That's great, all right,
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I'm still freaking out right, or things are still off
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balance because there's still truth in abundance and manifesting. It
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is a magnetic process. It's why we do ground clear protect.
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We have the bubble that filters says. What we want
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in comes in. What we don't stays out. When you
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pay attention to your energetic system, what's in that system
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will attract more of what's in the system. So there
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are times where that's easy. We're in a time right
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now that it's not. And I'm going to give you
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a quirky example. When I was younger, traveling with my
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mom was a nightmare. She'd be like, We're going to
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Disney World and I'd be like, oh no, so it
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was a night it was absent nightmare. I turned I
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don't know, eighteen nineteen, and this is just a fluke.
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I said, that's it for the rest of my life.
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I'm going to have travel magic. And then it happened,
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and I started it started to become quirky, like no
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matter what happened, it always I had perfect flights, never delayed.
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Throughout my entire life. It became a joke. Travel magic,
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travel magic. It was travel magic. My grandfather was passing.
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I showed up to the airport on Thanksgiving. Didn't know
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that everyone showed up to an airport on things. I
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didn't know that. I was young, and I was standing
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there and I looked over the railing and said, well,
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this is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds,
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because I have this core belief that it always works.
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And an employee walked up, leaned over and said, it's
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pretty pretty wild down there, isn't it. And I said, yeah,
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my flight leaves in twenty minutes, and he's like, I'll
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get you there. So I have travel magic. And it
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was just quirky and fun.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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and now back to the show.
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Last couple of years, I have literally had to ground
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clear protect everything's great as me and my partner say,
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it's like, butta, everything's going to work out smooth as butt,
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and I've had to say the affirmations today twenty years
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into my path more often because of the tension. So
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there are times that we have to put the extra
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effort in to remind our energetic body what it should
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be holding on to and what it shouldn't and then
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that's when we get the best outcome. And that's what
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I would tell people today. Yes, what's happening is going on.
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What's troublesome in the world is happening. People thank Goodness
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for finally being seen and loved. But this is going
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to be some stress for you. And when you feel
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stressed anytime in your life, take the extra steps to
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do those extra moments of affirmations, even if they feel
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like their beginner steps. Again, fill it back up because
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it works. Spooky works.
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One last thing I wanted to ask before we finish up,
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because I'll keep talking to you for hours. This has
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been so much fun. You said that you have families
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of family members who have this gift as well. Can
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you talk a little bit about what have you learned
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or what has Big Dog or Peter told you about
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how that works scientifically, Like, is there something in the
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DNA that allows you to have this ability? And you
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choose this, You choose the body, you choose the bloodline,
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you choose the ancestral karma, all this stuff that you're
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coming in to do, But there is a physical rule here.
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It's kind of like when you have two Olympic athletes
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mate and they have a child, chances are that child
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is going to probably be picked first at things at
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school because they just genetically have that gift. So there
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is a genetic gift when it comes to being a
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psychic medium or channeler or spirit someone's spiritual, but specifically
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I'm curious about the psychic medium that we call it
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the gift. Is there some sort of science behind that
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that they explain to you.
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There is, but it's it's a little bit sideways from that.
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For me, I'm not. I try to avoid using the
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word gifts because it makes people fit. It separates it does.
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I see our intuition, and I was trained by Big
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Dog and by Peter that intuition is your sixth sense.
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So if you are curious about how strong it's going
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to be for one person, put it in terms of
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another sense. If we lived in a world where everyone
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was told you don't have taste buds, you can't taste anything,
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and then somebody starts having tastes and I can taste something,
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then they're what, weird? Crazy? Right? It's the exact same
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thing with intuition. Everyone has it, Everyone has taste buds,
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and every now and then you're gonna get that person
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that is like the finest wine taster or the finest
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01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:27.359
taster of this and that. So every now and then
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you're gonna have it be stronger. But in essence, what's
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happening here is a little bit backwards. We've been trained
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in programmed to believe that we don't have it. And
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when an entire society believes that taste buds don't exist,
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then they don't and you believe it, and you can
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program yourself that way. For me, I like to look
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at more like the synaps is the fire in your brain.
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They fire in a habit and over and over, and
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it's why it takes what twenty eight days to break
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a habit or something with something like that, right, Well,
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that's because they have it. They habitually move in a
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way to say this is this is so if you
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were told your entire life it's not real, your synapsis
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are firing in that direction over and over and over.
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And then you have one experience and the synapsis go
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who and they fire in a different direction. But I
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guarantee you twenty four hours later they're going to go
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back to the old way of thinking. So it's a habit.
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Here's what I tell people to do. Get a no
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doubt notebook. That's not really a thing. I just like
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calling it a no doubt notebook. And every time you
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have an intuitive experience, write it in that notebook. And
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when your doubt comes back in again, read it. Read
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the notebook. Your synapsis literally chemically will fire back into
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what's really happening to you in the moment, and over
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01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:43.880
time the habit will be built that you will recognize
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that which is real instead of that what you were taught.
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Beautiful, beautiful. Now, I'm going to ask you a few
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questions to ask all my guests. Yes, what is your
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definition of living a fulfilled life?
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My definition of living a fulfilled life is being in
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the moment as often as possible and having as many
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experiences as you can have.
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If you had a chance to go back in time
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and speak to little Bow, what advice would you would
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you give her?
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Uh? Oddly, it would be do exactly what you did,
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all the good and all the bad, because it's going
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to be awesome.
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And what advice would little Bow give you today?
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Quit being stubborn?
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Fair enough? How do you define God or Source.
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I define God or Source as that beautiful spider web
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that connects all the souls on the other side. And
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it is, in essence the purest form of unconditional love
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that exists.
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And what is love? Love?
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Is creation?
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Beautiful? If you had a chance to ask God one question,
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what would it be?
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Why the platypus?
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He has a sense of humor? She has a sense
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of humor. Yes, it has a sense of humor. I always,
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you don't think I always see the same thing, like
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have you seen the platypus?
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I mean, I mean why, I mean why why?
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I don't understand.
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I would more more, more more than that. I would
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probably say thank you for the opportunity to have this
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beautiful holidack that I get to have all these experiences
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in good and bad.
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So many keek references nerd uh nerd, And I'm a
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nerd for knowing the reference.
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So I didn't explain it because I knew you would know.
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Of course, of course, And how do you define liberation
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in this lifetime?
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Serving yourself first so you can serve others with uh
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more greatness?
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And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life?
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To have experiences?
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And where can people find out more about you and
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01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:51.199
the amazing work you're doing in the world.
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I do a pretty good job at keeping it all
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01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:56.359
on one website and it's the Sage Method.
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It's the Sage Method, dot com, dot com and that,
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01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:01.319
and they'll everything they need from you. They're how to
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01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:02.640
get how to get a hold of you and all
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that stuff. Great, And do you have any party messages
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for the audience.
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Know that when times are tough, when you're very much
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in the human let it actually be okay to be
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01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:19.760
there and then come out of it. When we try
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01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:23.239
to fight the experience that we're in and try to
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01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:25.680
stop it, we stay in it. So you can be
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01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:27.640
in it. Just don't stay in it.
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It's quicksand spiritual clues, spiritual quicksand.
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Yeah, so give yourself permission. Give yourself permission for one
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thing every single day.
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And on a lighter note, did you think that quicksand
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was going to be a bigger deal?
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I was terrified. I mean I was terrified.
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Only eighties and nineties kids will understand.
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It was terror.
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Quicksand was like you.
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Were going to die that way.
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We were going to die in quicksand.
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It was going to happen it was yeah. And then
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you take a city girl from the seventies and eighties
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01:57:58.319 --> 01:58:00.880
and take her on a hike. I'm I'm dying. I'm
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01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:02.479
going to step in the wrong spot and it's going
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to be quicksand and I'm never going to get.
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01:58:04.079 --> 01:58:06.680
Out, and there'll be a giant rack like creature that
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comes out of you.
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Yes, and it's going to take me down the rest
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of the way and then we're done.
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Bo, it has been such a pleasure talking to you today.
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Thank you so much for coming, and thank you so
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much for all the teaching you've done for the last
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01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:23.479
twenty years. In the lovely style that you would do it.
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It's so beautiful. I'd love it. And just thank you
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for helping awaken the planet.
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So thank you, thank you for having me.
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I like to thank Bo so much for coming on
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01:58:32.840 --> 01:58:34.600
the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with all
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01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:36.159
of us. If you want to get links to anything
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we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
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show notes at next levelsoul dot com Forward slash six
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one four. Now. If this conversation stirred something in you,
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