Firing Squad: Xbox Mass Layoffs & Sony Deletes 551 Movies

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[music] >> Multiple nerdgasm.
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>> Hi. >> Hey. How are you? >> I'm good. How are you?
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>> I'm going to apologize. I have not done anything to research anything for this
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show this week. >> Okay, and that's different normal Okay. >> [laughter] >> All right.
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That's fine. There's a lot in here actually. Uh it's been busy because we didn't
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record last week. >> Oh, that's right. >> Because it was America's birthday. >> Yes.
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>> America turned 250. >> Yep. >> And I was in Vermont. So.
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I apologize. >> And you had lots of fireworks.
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>> We did. We had lots of fireworks and beer. It's good.
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>> I don't really picture beer as being part of America's thing, but I guess it is.
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>> What should I have been drinking? >> I don't know. Just in my head, Americans
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don't drink beer. I know they do. >> Mhm. Oh, they do.
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>> movies, it's only the rednecks that drink beer. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they
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>> And then everyone else is on spirits. >> Okay. Yeah.
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Okay. Like beer, bourbon I guess is is pretty American. >> Yeah. They drink it straight.
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>> Yeah. Okay. They don't. They don't. They drink beer and like
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uh What are those [ __ ] things? High Noons and uh >> High Noon?
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>> Uh what are the new iced tea ones? Iced tea >> Iced tea?
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>> drinks. Yeah, what is it called? They're really popular right now. Uh drink in
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Sun Cruisers. >> Sun Cruisers? And what's in that? >> They're pretty [ __ ] good. Uh
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it's iced tea and vodka. >> Okay. It's sort of like what they did with Solo.
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>> Yeah, and you can get it mixed with lemonade as well, like a half it iced
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tea half lemonade and then uh there's like blueberry lemonade
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strawberry lemonade pink lemonade it's anyway get you
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>> for for a country that doesn't let you drink before you're 21 they're really
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[laughter] aiming for teenagers aren't they? >> I know I
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everybody drinks these like we go to [ __ ] kids birthday
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parties the dads are drinking these like these are very popular.
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>> Oh there is a a joke out about here about like Australian men not liking
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beer anymore so I guess that's made it to America as well.
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>> Yeah I guess so. Yeah no it's Sun Cruiser hard answer well these are
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I mean this is not super interesting but it's like it's lower calories people are
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worried about calories. reasonably >> I'm not I've just accepted my fate.
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>> fair >> Mhm. >> Anyway. Uh that's alcohol news for this week.
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Yes. Um where should we begin? I think >> start off with the most important thing?
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>> Yeah is it I'm going in. >> Tell us who's got married. >> Yeah and
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we weren't invited. >> No which I found quite rude.
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>> Yeah we were we're not invited although neither was Ryan Reynolds so
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um you know >> Yeah. >> Although I don't think we've done as much wrong as Ryan Reynolds.
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>> As Ryan Reynolds so >> he's really really not popular these days apparently
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but yeah she got married in in New York and everybody's been talking about it.
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>> And the thing that I found most the weirdest thing about all of this
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was the fact that Adam Sandler officiated that's the one thing that
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came out of nowhere for me. >> [laughter] >> I don't understand I don't understand.
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Did he do it in a silly voice like >> Did he do it in his basketball shorts?
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Like he's always in his basketball shorts like is he just like >> It's so odd. >> Does
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>> I even know him? >> Like Yeah, well, they must.
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Like They must be friends. >> Well, I don't see them being friends. I
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see them being from very different worlds. >> Yeah.
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>> Like all three three of them. Like none of them cross over.
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>> Yeah, they got sports man, music girl, and allegedly funny guy. >> Yeah.
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>> do funny things anymore. He does he does serious acting. Sorry. But
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>> Um I haven't seen any of that. >> I just don't know. I just confused by
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that. But I mean whatever. I'm sure they had a lovely wedding. I'm
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sure it was very expensive. Uh and >> more than would
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I like I probably live off the rest of my life of what they spent on this wedding.
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>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh and if you
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gentle listener would like a piece of Taylor Swift's wedding, apparently you,
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like other fans, can purchase garbage from the wedding for $25. Uh
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>> Including cigarette butts and ovulation test kit. >> [laughter]
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>> And things people think Okay. Who the [ __ ] was doing that at the
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wedding? And where did you get this trash? Like >> Trash? >> Like
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Yeah. Uh a New York artist picked up the garbage from city streets around Madison
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Square Garden. And uh they're all sold within 24 hours.
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Water bottle caps, ring pop candy, police caution tape, straws, utensils,
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and a single left airpod. >> Ooh. Imagine you could find out whose that
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was though. >> The artist described everything as a sculpture.
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And uh he's made 1,250 bucks. >> And the thing is you don't know if it was anyone
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at the wedding. It was just garbage Trump around. >> Trash from New York, which I'm not I
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don't know if you've been to New York. I know you have. I don't know if the
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listeners have. There's plenty of it. You can get it for
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free. They're just throwing it out in the street. >> [laughter]
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>> [ __ ] bags of it in the street. >> Anything in here that he got it from
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inside Madison Square Garden, he got it from the streets around. So,
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>> Literally in New York, I I mean, I'm assuming this is normal. I've seen it a
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couple of times. This is the way that they do the garbage is that they just
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put the bags of garbage in the street and the people come and get it. So, like
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eventually, whatever day it is, if you're there, there's just piles and
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piles of bags of garbage in the street. Help yourselves. >> Yeah.
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Yeah. Uh Oh, interesting. The artist sells other
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cities' trash on his website, too. Interesting. Yeah.
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>> But, yeah, like it's I I really I think that yeah, people you weren't buying
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trash from their wedding. >> Yeah. >> Like at all. >> Yeah, well, also,
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the artist pointed out the garbage was technically from outside the barriers
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because the artist wasn't invited. So, again, it's just trash off the streets of
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>> It's trash off the street. Like I'm pretty sure Madison Square Garden, when
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they have all the rubbish inside, put it into bins inside and they get those
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trucks that drive in and and take it. >> And they take it to their the warehouse
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where they sell all their eBay stuff. >> Yes. Yeah. Cuz it's a good business.
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>> So, anyway, $25 apparently for some cigarette butts
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that were near Taylor Swift's wedding. >> [laughter]
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>> Imagine how much it'd be for stuff that was inside the wedding. Inside Taylor Swift.
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He was already worth a fortune. >> That's true. It's true. >> [laughter]
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>> Uh Uh >> He contributes his own money. It's not like he's going to be
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just off her. He's >> Yeah. He um but I think she's still
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the richer half. Like her her name would go first on applications. >> I would think so.
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>> Um I was a funny tweet. This guy is um
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Here we go. Oh, wait. These are old tweets. He's
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Here we go. This is her husband, Travis Kelce? Kelsey? I don't know how to pronounce
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his name. This is a tweet of his. This is a This is what we're dealing with here. This is
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uh I Okay, it's a tweet. >> [clears throat] >> I just gave a squirrel, spelled s q u i
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r l e, a piece, spelled p e i c e, of bread and it straight smashed all of it.
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I had no idea they ate bread like that. Haha, #crazy. >> [laughter]
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>> And this is the man that married your Tay Tay. >> My Tay Tay?
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>> I'm talking to the listeners. Yeah. >> Oh, oh, oh.
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>> Taylor Swift I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan. Anything of hers.
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>> I'm not sure I can identify a song of hers. I'll be honest. I know the only
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thing she lives in Rhode Island, so I hear about her a lot. Like we just have
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to hear about her because she's always doing things that annoy people. And um
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but I don't know any of her music. >> I I know the joke that she all of her
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songs are writing about people she's broken up with. I know that joke, but
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>> She doesn't write the songs, guys. Can we just talk about that for a
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minute? She has songwriters, okay? >> Yes. >> They're not about I mean
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whatever. >> Just shake it off, Matt. Just shake it off.
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>> off. Oh, I didn't know that one. I really like that song. Yeah. There you go. I lied.
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>> That's the only one I've got. Like don't be expecting any more of me. That's
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that's all my Tay Tay knowledge there. And the fact that everyone knows she's
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really good friends with Adam Sandler. >> All right. Well, something you do know about
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Xbox. >> Yes. >> There's been a massive amount of Xbox
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news in the last 2 weeks. >> Now, this isn't just happening in the X
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[clears throat] This just happened in the game space, which I do not
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understand. I don't I get it, but I don't. >> So, okay. Let's begin with before this came
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out, the big thing, there was a report that
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Game Pass lost 30 million subscribers because of this whole debacle.
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>> Oh, because I thought they lost it because of when they did the price hike.
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>> That's what I mean. No, sorry. That's what I mean. So, you went all the way
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back to Yeah, the big price hike. >> The Game Pass debacle, I mean. >> Uh yeah, sorry. Uh
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I was one of them. I canceled my Game Pass because I was like, "You know what?
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I'm not using it very much. >> Yeah. >> And you've made it noticeable for me.
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>> Yeah, but before it was at the price where you weren't using it that much,
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but you were it wasn't too bad. >> It was nice to have it, you know,
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and then they put it up and I was like, "Nope." >> Uh anyway, they lost 30 million
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subscribers. Uh not good. [snorts] >> No. And it's hard to get subscribers
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back. >> Right. Uh well, I mean, I don't think this is necessarily going to have helped
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what they've done now, but long-term maybe this will be helpful. I don't
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exactly know what's going on over there, but um they said, you know, they want to
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entertain more than a billion people daily, and in order to do that, they need
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to fire everybody. >> Yes. >> So, uh they have
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put out this blog post, which we've linked here. It says resetting Xbox.
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>> Yeah. And I think they got rid of what, 1,200 or 1,700 have already gone with
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another 3,200 to come. >> Yeah. >> Or something like that. That's >> Through
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>> 2027, they'll be reducing by 3200 people. They've
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uh let a bunch of studios just go back to being Double Fine. It's just
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independent again now. >> Yep. >> They just said, "You know what? Off you go."
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>> Yep. I know we spent all this money buying all these studios, but you can
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just all go away and now >> Yeah. I mean, take your IP with you. There >> [laughter]
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>> There must be a reason. I don't quite I'm not a business person, obviously,
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but like, [ __ ] hell. Um And the big one everyone's talking about
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is id. >> Yes. >> Because apparently,
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they fired all the programmers. And id is famously
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the studio that John Carmack, you know, founded with John Romero and
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and everybody. And you know, they made uh Wolfenstein and Doom and Quake and
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Quake 3 and and like id Tech is just famous for these, you know, the amazing
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game engine stuff. And they need programmers to do that. So, I guess
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that's not a thing they do anymore. >> And oh, it's weird. Another weird thing
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I've heard throughout all of this, they fired a lot of people from Bethesda
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so Bethesda can focus on getting Elder Scrolls and Fallout out faster.
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>> That I didn't get. >> Look, we found that all these people
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were distracting. So, Todd, it's just you now. >> [laughter] >> Sit down and shut up.
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>> You've got to finish Elder Scrolls, Fallout 5, and uh whatever and and we
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and the Elder Scrolls online DLC. >> Yeah. You've got to keep all that. Just
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get that out. Yeah, I didn't quite understand how they fired so many to
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focus on getting that out. >> [sighs and gasps] >> Well, I guess
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>> Again, I don't understand >> The first I guess had other stuff going on, like other
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>> [snorts] >> copies. Oh, Doom is another one that they're focusing on. Um >> Mhm.
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>> But but that Yeah, they've stripped it right down and they're just just
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focusing on that stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I don't know. It does sound weird, right?
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>> Yeah, like wouldn't you just let's not farm and just hey, get to work.
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>> I mean, I guess it doesn't necessarily work like that. You can't just throw
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more people at a I don't know. >> getting rid of people seeing >> Yeah, I don't know.
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>> a stranger way. >> I mean, it's I you'd save money.
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>> Well, I the thing is I don't understand about the game industry as a whole is
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it's the biggest industry in the world. >> [laughter] >> Mhm.
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>> Like makes more than movies, makes more like games make a fortune. Yet, they're
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all and they're always setting record profits. But they've always
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>> they go too hard. Like everyone was talking about Xbox went so hard, they
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bought all these [ __ ] studios and they went crazy. I think they really did
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just go too hard. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think they did. Like it was They
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[snorts] brought everything under the sun. >> [laughter] >> Too hard.
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>> Okay, here you go. >> He's scared [laughter] of me. >> [snorts] >> All right.
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>> All right. >> Love you. >> He's >> [laughter] >> getting scared.
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A lot of people watching as well. There was just a banana coming at your face. >> Yeah.
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>> [laughter] >> She couldn't open it. Didn't hear her coming. All right. Uh
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anyway, Xbox. >> Yeah, I I think you're right. Yeah, too
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hard, too fast. >> Um
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they've got Obsidian still. >> Who are now evidently
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working on Fallout from what I've heard, which is weird. Sorry?
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>> that's good. >> That's good, but didn't I we've have them I'm sitting here to
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work on Fallout since New Vegas. >> Right. Yeah.
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Ooh, that's weird. When I click the link on this, it goes
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to verge.com. What is that? What's happened there? That's really strange.
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Verge.com apparently is not >> It's available for purchase. >> There we go. Anyway,
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>> Let's purchase verge. >> Let's not. It's probably too expensive.
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>> I don't know. It just says I can buy it now. >> I don't understand how that URL got in
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there like that. Anyway, the verge.com is reporting that yeah, Xbox resets
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pivoting Obsidian to make Fallout instead of uh Avowed two. Mhm.
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I guess. >> Well, Avowed honestly
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it wasn't that good. >> Agreed. >> I think a lot of people went, "Oh, this
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is fun." And then got about an hour or two in and went, "Yeah, I'm I'm finished
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with this." >> Yeah. >> And put it down. >> So, they're still doing Outer Worlds two DLC.
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Um but they'll I guess they're focusing now on a new Fallout game, which I mean they
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did the best one, New Vegas. >> Yeah. >> So, >> And this is what they wanted to This is
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what they tried to sell ages ago. You said like, "Hey, you do the main ones,
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we'll do the off ones." Went back in the time when they were thinking it was
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going to be a year or every two years one was coming out, not decades. >> Well,
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uh yeah. [sighs] Not sad about that. That's good news.
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>> Cuz I'm honestly starting to think I will never get to play Elder Scrolls 7.
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>> [laughter] >> What if they keep firing everybody? >> Or Fallout 6. Like, it's just not
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possible. >> Yeah. Yeah, not really feasible.
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>> Well, >> so that's Xbox. They're uh they're resetting, they've fired so many It's
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just uh it's a lot, like >> Yeah. >> I get it, I suppose. You've got to keep
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the business viable, but >> But it's not like yes, they they weren't losing money.
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>> What I mean, were they not >> Well, they weren't getting as much as they wanted.
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>> Yeah. >> That's the always the thing. It's not with a lot of times like this, it's not
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the fact that they're losing money. It's the fact that shareholders want more. >> Yeah.
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>> want more and more and more. >> Yeah. I mean, they do, you know, they sell the
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Xboxes at a loss. Although uh that's all the prices of those are going up. So, oh
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yeah, so there was a statement about from Valve about the Steam Machine where they said
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they don't want to do that where you know, like Microsoft in particular, I'm
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sure Sony does this, too. They sell the consoles for less
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than they cost to get you into the ecosystem, and then hopefully you buy
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the games, and then they make money. >> Yep. >> And then um Valve said they didn't want
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to do that because it creates
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bad incentives and like lock-in, and they want an open ecosystem. Yeah, I
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know, and it's like >> What are you talking about? >> What are you
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What are you You want everyone to go to Steam? >> Yeah, I don't know. It was you
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it was a weird it just doesn't make any sense to me. I
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mean, maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't understand the what what they
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were trying to say. Like, okay, you're not subsidizing the console because you
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don't want to lock people in. Like, how would that lock people in?
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>> But it's not like they can buy that and then go and play it >> It would lock people in.
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>> for free. >> I mean, it's a business strategy, I guess, like >> Yeah.
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>> I mean, also, they make they sell all the [ __ ] PC games in the world,
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almost. Like, there's a couple of There's There's others, like Epic Games
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Store and stuff like that, but most people use Steam. >> Yeah.
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>> Like, I don't know. It just seemed like a weird nonsense
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>> No, yeah, I don't know where they're coming from from that. That's
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>> They just don't want to, I think. >> Yeah. They they want to subsidize it.
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>> And we don't have to. >> I guess it just the way they phrase it. I I if
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they had said like no no we just don't want to do weird things like that. Like
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this is what it costs. Here it is. Like >> And and all really all they're doing is
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they're just trying to make it like here it is. This is the cost or you can go
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get your own PC. Like we're just making this an easier option for you where it's
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>> Oh I think I might have said I don't know if we just said this but
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but we had said you could build a PC for less. Apparently not necessarily.
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Yeah apparently it is quite competitive price wise if you
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spec things out the same. But the thing is that you could compromise on certain things.
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>> Yeah. >> If you wanted to. >> Yeah. >> [snorts]
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>> Anyway the major issues at the moment are RAM and
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hard drives which are not going to get cheaper. Oh it's going to get worse. Did
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we talk about that? >> That it's going to get worse?
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>> Apparently [snorts] so yeah. All the projections are that next year
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is going to be even worse for these prices. So if you're out there I mean
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don't hold me to this but if you're out there and you're thinking I need a new
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computer but I won't buy one I'll wait for the prices to come down. I don't
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need it until next year. Maybe rethink that strategy because it's going to get worse.
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>> I can't see it getting better for a long time to be honest.
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>> Well cuz the thing apparently that okay so they need to make more RAM and storage.
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>> Yeah. >> So the AI stuff is just eating up supply
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of it. Okay so they need to apparently it takes three years ish to spin up a new
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manufacturing facility. >> Yeah. >> If you're a company that already makes
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that stuff. Yeah that's how this that's just how long it takes to get these
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things ready. If you're a brand new at it it takes even longer. But it takes three years.
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And because AI is a bubble at the moment and they don't know how
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long is this going to last they don't really want to commit to spinning up too
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many of these things. >> Exactly. So, it's this whole thing where
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this is going to be a while because it's like and also be three years? No,
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because they probably won't do enough of them if it continues cuz they're hedging
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their bets. >> Look, I I do think it is going to that bubble is coming and I think it's
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hopefully it's coming sooner rather than later. I think it's it's getting scary
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the type of stuff that AI can actually do. >> Yeah.
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>> And there's no safety rails or anything in there. Everyone's just racing to be
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first now. >> Like Fable, the new Claude model is really good. >> Mhm.
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>> And you know, I've got access to it until
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tomorrow on my current plan, I think. Let me check.
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What plan am I on? I think
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I think Fable's included until tomorrow for standard plans. >> Uh
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>> [clears throat] >> and then you have to pay more for it. >> Yeah.
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>> And that makes sense because the reality of it is everybody's using
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this stuff right now, right? Most people paying like 20 bucks a month for like
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the subscription to one of these things. It costs way more than that.
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>> That's That's not the >> burning through money and they're not
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making any money. All that stuff that we're doing, all these stupid images,
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all these stupid [ __ ] we're making, it costs so much money.
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>> so much and their their actual target audience isn't the people paying the $20. >> No.
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>> It's business. >> And at a certain point they're going to
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have to stop sub- they're subsidizing, basically. Like cuz businesses talk
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about there was a someone posting on Reddit talked about how they use Claude
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code and all these tools to build things, right? And they've been using that API not
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the normal standard plans and they've been spending thousands of dollars a month
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and then just without looking into it and then he posted it and he said
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could I have just done all this with the $20 a month plan?" And then he put all
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the information, everyone's like, "Yeah, you could have." Like, because
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for some reason, they're just eating all that cost right now.
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I guess to keep things going. And like, basically this person burnt
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like 20 grand or something in a year because they didn't they just did it the
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they did it the way that it like it's it's going to cost that at some point. >> Yes.
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>> Like, at some point they're going to have to stop. And then they're going to
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say, "Okay, guys, this actually costs thousands of
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dollars, so pony up or we're not doing it anymore." >> Like
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yeah, I don't know where all the money's coming from. It like they're eating it,
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but where did that money come from to begin with? >> Investment, I guess. >> Yeah.
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And that's I think that's what they're all going to be rushing, and there's no Yeah,
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I think it's going to be scary because Claude everything's to Claude to make stuff.
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>> Mhm. >> So, and then what if Claude just decided to make a backdoor to everything?
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>> [laughter] >> That Well, yeah, there's that. Or just like, what if you build something,
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and you don't know how it works because you didn't build it. And then they go,
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"Okay, now Claude costs 10 times as much." What are you going to do about that? Like
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>> I I I can't afford that for what I made. No way. >> maintain
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my product anymore. I can't like fix bugs, I can't do anything. >> Right. Yeah.
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>> Yeah, it's a bit of a worry. A lot of businesses I mean, the company
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I work for is heavily reliant on AI for certain things now. And it's like if
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they jack the prices up, like I mean, is that the plan?
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To get everybody reliant on it, and then be like, "All right, it now costs X."
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>> And then that's too, cuz they eventually have to start charging people for it.
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>> Yeah. >> Like >> Yeah. >> I don't know. It's scary. I don't want
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to talk about it anymore cuz it is It's dooms day. There's
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>> is the reason why why the companies don't want to commit to all of this
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manufacturing is because like like who the [ __ ] knows what's going to happen. >> Yeah.
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>> It's all very weird right now. >> Yes. Yeah.
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>> So I'm just going to My computer should last a long time, I hope.
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>> Mhm. Yeah, my I'm I bought my iMac with this one in
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I don't know, like a like the year before all this kind of started
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happening and it's like it it'll last. >> This this should last. I'll buy a new Xbox.
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That'll keep me going. >> I got a banana coming at my face. I got
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a date coming up to my window. What's going on this week? >> It's all happening.
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Well, look, Sony's going to be saving some money for consumers.
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>> Okay, here we go. Yeah, okay, so they're not they're not in the clear this week.
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Sony's in the [ __ ] too. Go on. >> Well, I assume that since Sony's going
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to stop selling physical games that the cost is going to come down.
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>> Oh, you sweet summer child. >> [laughter] >> No. You would think that. You would have
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I would have I remember we talked about this ages ago. Oh, the games are just
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going to be digital. They can be cheaper. You know, we don't have to pay
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the Australia tax cuz they don't have to ship them to Australia. Like, no. [ __ ] you.
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>> More now. Yep. >> We get it. >> And you don't own it anymore.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, I did notice that Xbox were quiet
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about this, but theirs isn't going to come with the disc drive, but Sony's
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already announced theirs is not coming with the disc drive, which I >> Yeah. I get
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>> I know people are jumping up and down >> Yeah, there's people The thing is
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there's a big renaissance movement now for physical media and so this
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announcement is at a bad time because people are like
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currently in kind of a nostalgic mood about that because well,
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there's another article about Sony in particular in here, too, that doesn't help. Um
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They just announce that uh was it 20
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Here we go. Sony is going to delete 551 uh movies
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from PlayStation movie, whatever that is, the movie system. You know, like
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Xbox movies, PlayStation movie, whatever. >> Yeah. >> The li- your library on PlayStation.
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>> Yeah. >> 551 movies and TV shows are just being deleted because the rights expired.
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>> And yeah. >> So, how does that make you feel about
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buying digital stuff? Probably not good. >> Yeah. Cuz I I like
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cuz you you buy it. Well >> say you're renting it. Doesn't say >> That's the thing.
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>> It says you're buying it. So, you assume that you've purchased this product. >> No.
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>> No. You purchased a license the same way they don't got the license.
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>> Yeah. And people uh realizing that and as like I said, a big movement now to
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say, "You know what? [ __ ] that. Buy Blu-ray." >> Cuz it's starting to happen a lot.
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>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because they can't come into your house and take those yet. >> No.
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>> [laughter] >> Maybe one day. >> I reckon they'll they'll be able to work
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out a way to cuz everything's going to have an update so they'll just update
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that it won't play discs before this date. >> Yeah, something stupid.
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But the here's the thing though, games are different in that
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uh you buy a movie on Blu-ray, the Blu-ray goes in the machine, it works
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forever. Games are not like that. >> No. >> Especially these days. You buy You go to
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the store, you buy a game day one, put it in your computer, it's going to need an update.
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>> E- even if you do- you have to connect to your consoles to the internet. You You have
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to. Even on the game the package you you buy, even though you have a disc, it'll
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go, "Will not require internet connection." >> Yeah. Yeah, and like they all have day one
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updates. And often it's the whole [ __ ] game just has to be installed
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over again cuz they have to fix everything. It's just the discs are effectively useless
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anyway. Like even I remember back when I played Red Dead Redemption on my
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PlayStation 2. That doesn't make any sense. No, it
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must have been the Xbox. What did I play it on? Anyway, it needed an update for
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the cuz there was controller issues. >> Yep. >> And
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uh we had just moved house and I didn't have internet connected yet and I was
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trying to play this game and I was like this is [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yep.
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>> And then I got the update and I was like oh no, actually it's great. But >> Yep.
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>> And that was over 10 years ago. >> Look, I think the first one of them to
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come out and go you can sell on or lend out your digital
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games is going to make a fortune. >> Yeah, but still they've got to they've got to
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>> [clears throat] >> I think if what if some of the one of them came out and said we're
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legally binding ourselves to not being able to take it away from you again.
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That's the problem. >> Mhm. >> Like you are buying this, not you're
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renting it. That's the that's the discrepancy is that when I buy a
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Blu-ray, I'm not renting it. I've bought it. I've got it. It's mine. When I buy it on
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iTunes or Xbox or whatever, it's basically a rental.
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>> Look, everyone's just going to go back to pirating.
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>> That that's the other talk, too, is but then Well, that's not a great solution
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because then there's no business, you know? >> It's not, but again, remember at the
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height of piracy when Australia was we were the worst pirates in the world.
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And then every time a movie was released here, record profits. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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We do pay well, I don't anymore. I live in heavy here now, but we did pay extra. >> Yes.
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>> That's why everybody was pirating. Oh, that and the um
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that and for those who don't know, Australia had a really bad reputation
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for piracy around TV shows and stuff, too. Like especially Game of Thrones.
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But that's because they wouldn't let us [ __ ] have it until like weeks later.
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We couldn't get it. So like you would all be watching it in America and
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everything and talking about it online and Australia's like we haven't even got
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it yet. And so the only way to participate in the culture was to pirate it.
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>> And it wasn't like there wasn't like oh you had to pay if you paid for it you
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could there was no legal way. >> it. And I'm not excusing the piracy. I'm
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just saying like if you if you want to know why like it's not [ __ ] hard to
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figure it out like >> Piracy really stopped here once they made stuff available. >> Yeah.
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>> Like Netflix and all of that. But then even when we're starting this podcast
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and we're all this is coming out we did say people are going to go back when
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they start bringing out too many streaming services too much competition because
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while it's available you don't want to have to buy pay 20 different
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subscriptions to get all the shows you want. >> Yes.
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>> And that's where we are today. You can't have one. I don't want to watch Silo
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now. And I have to get Apple again. >> Remember Netflix came out and it was like
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we can just get Netflix and watch everything. And it was was like that for
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a little bit. And then all the studios were like you know what let's just
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[ __ ] make our own. >> Yep. And then they own this license and they
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own that property and then every time I go on to delete one I go oh I want to watch this.
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>> Or stuff like when I was watching Mr. Robot and I was in I was enjoying Mr. Robot
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and it was on Prime and I was got up to season 4 and then
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all of a sudden it wasn't there anymore. And then they're like oh it's on Netflix
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00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,720
now. And I was like [ __ ] all right. >> Like that happened to me recently watching Lex.
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>> Yeah. Oh. >> Lex Lex. And I watched season 1 season 2 season 3 [laughter]
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>> Got up to watch season 3 and no we don't have that. We got season 4 for you
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though. And I went >> Oh I hate that. What is that about?
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Yeah. I want to watch I want to watch the show. Yeah we've got seasons 2 5, 7,
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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,800
and 9. What the [ __ ] is that about? >> [laughter] >> So annoying.
422
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Yeah, I will never understand how that licensing ever worked out. >> Yeah.
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00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,720
But uh Yeah, so Sony's not going to make discs anymore. >> Yeah.
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00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,360
>> At all. Citing consumer preference. So this means people don't want them.
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00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,160
>> It's I know people Yeah, there is a renaissance and everything, but at the
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end of the day, people are buying digital. >> Yeah. >> Like that's what's happening.
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>> I personally think if I was going to buy a movie, I'd probably buy it physical
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for the reasons I said is that I then have a disc. Uh
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they can't take the disc away from me. It will work forever. >> Yeah.
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>> But games, that doesn't apply. The game's useless on disc, frankly.
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>> Yeah. It's exactly the same. Like unless you're buying unless you're like
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buying like an an old Xbox 360 or something, like those discs will still
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work day one. They might not work great depending on the bugs that are there. >> Yeah.
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00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,680
>> But anywhere from Xbox One and PlayStation 4 onwards, >> Yeah.
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00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,160
>> I don't know how that works. They'll be yeah, as you said, completely useless.
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00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,720
>> Yeah, because you need the digital aspect of it for it to function. Yeah.
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So I just I don't know, games just it's just not worth the worry, to be honest. >> No. No.
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>> Which is I'm not saying that's that's right or anything. >> No. Like it's annoying
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>> and I think wrong that they can still do it, but I don't think the disc helps in
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that scenario. >> No. No. No, I'm I'm still for the we should stop
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killing games sort of movement. I don't know how that works, but we should be able to have
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>> It's tough. >> be able to just still There are games out there that they just
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Like oh, there was um Planet of the Apes, there was a a Telltale like game
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that came out. I I it's about 6 years ago. They just took it off the store. Disney
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just took it off the store and that's gone forever. >> Yeah. >> Unless you own it.
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>> A bunch of old Star Wars games they got rid of. >> Yeah.
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00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:47,000
>> Disney took just said no we're not going to sell these anymore. >> Yep. Gone. >> Yeah.
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>> Unless you already have them. They're >> Like >> on your account that's it.
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>> GOG has a good solution for a lot of stuff. But that's only because they're
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able to negotiate that with the publisher like >> Yeah.
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>> I think if you buy like The Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk through Good Old Games
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>> Mhm. >> I'd be surprised if this is not the case. I haven't confirmed this. I think
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it's like the old games they have like the old DOS games. Like if you I know
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for a fact if you buy Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis from Good Old Games
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>> You've got it. >> You can download the installer. >> Yeah.
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>> No DRM or anything and then you can back that up. And that is yours forever and
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it will always work as long as you have a computer that can run it.
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>> Yes. I don't [laughter] guarantee that. >> I don't guarantee that but you'll always
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have the thing that will work. Uh and I think it's the same I'd be
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surprised if it's not the same with the AAA titles. >> Mhm. >> But
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they're not all like that. >> Mhm. >> Because you're not going to convince Microsoft
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or Sony that like they should you do that with you know like The Elder Scrolls
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6 when it comes out. You're not You're not going to be able to do >> No. No.
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They will be locking that thing down so hard. >> Yeah.
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And like even Switch games now like oh this to get the physical version of the Switch game
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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,840
it's not you still have to download it. Like you put the
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the cartridge just unlocks it. It's got there's nothing on the cartridge except
468
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,720
a little code that says yeah you can play it. And then you still have to install it. Yeah.
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>> and terrible time for games all at the same time.
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>> It is. Anyway but people are canceling PS Plus in protest of the disk situation which
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>> Yeah, that's a >> I don't know if that's going to >> strange way to go about it.
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>> Yeah. >> Like >> I mean, that's the message. >> Depending on how many people do it, and
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it really needs to be a lot for it to make a >> Mhm. >> So yeah, sort of take notice.
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>> The PS Plus is like Game Pass for the anyone who doesn't know. It's like your monthly
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PlayStation subscription, you get free games, and you get uh
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you know, extra stuff every month. Uh people are canceling that in protest.
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00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,120
>> Uh he's he's something in the article, which it sort of yeah, does explain like
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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,760
around So they've got So he has over 120 million active PlayStation users, around
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50 million people subscribe to PlayStation Plus. >> Mhm.
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>> As a sort of experiment, let's say 500,000 people cancel in protest.
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That's 1% of business. They're not going to start rethinking anything. Like it's
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going to have to be in the millions, and you're not going to have millions of people
483
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:28,560
protesting like this. >> Yeah. Yeah, and then like what's it Again,
484
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what's it going to do? I think the protest is misguided in that the discs
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00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:39,600
don't serve the function that people seem to think that they do. >> No. >> Like again,
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if you buy a PlayStation game on a disc, that doesn't mean
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you can just have the disc and a PlayStation forever, and then after the
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apocalypse, you can set up the PlayStation and put the disc in and play
489
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,360
the game. It's it's not going to work like that. Like that's the
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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,160
>> So the moral of the story, people, keep your PlayStation 3s >> Yeah.
491
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,480
>> Xbox 360s, and stock up on them. Cuz when the apocalypse comes, that's all you got.
492
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,880
>> You can play. The ev- everything else just doesn't work like that anymore. >> No.
493
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>> Mhm. It's a shame, but that's the world we live in.
494
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>> And we also got to fire at They've got to fire everyone as well.
495
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>> That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so they'll all these things will
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stop working eventually because they'll have fired everybody. >> Exactly.
497
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>> And they I will have taken over the world and AI doesn't make good games.
498
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,720
>> Yet. >> I don't think it ever will. >> No.
499
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>> I was looking at it I saw something recently about the
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the storytelling of AI at the moment and you can basically they've got a 95%
501
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,040
um rating of working out which AI not only that AI wrote it that which AI wrote it.
502
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,280
>> Oh, interesting. >> how they all sort of work together.
503
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,240
Which is with human writing something they go here, there, sub plots. >> Yeah.
504
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,400
>> very differently. But with the AI stuff it's very I don't know this AI thinks
505
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,640
like this will go down this path and yeah. >> Uh that's interesting. Yeah, I wonder if how
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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,600
maybe I should do experiment. Ask it ask it to write a like a full
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plot for an adventure game and see what it comes up with. I wonder what kind of
508
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,680
weird [ __ ] it would come up with. >> Yeah. It comes weird stuff. But yeah, it
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00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,600
it'll probably be from what I've seen it would be a bit linear. It wouldn't come
510
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,040
up with weird stuff that we would with with we were writing it.
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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,760
>> Oh, interesting. All right. >> Yeah.
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>> I have asked it before. I remember I asked it
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about a puzzle idea and it it just came up with like
514
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,760
I was like no this is no good. I can't remember what I can't what was it? I
515
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,280
remember just looking at it going I yeah you don't get it like >> [snorts]
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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,320
>> I don't know. It's hard to explain. Like it just doesn't
517
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,320
doesn't get it a lot of the time. Like >> Look and it it could could change in the
518
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,240
future but by that time we not going to have to worry about cuz
519
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,160
we're not going to have electricity cuz all the electricity will all be going to
520
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,720
the data centers. So we're not going to have access to it anyway.
521
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,320
>> Well what are they going to provide data to? If the data if yeah, I guess that's the
522
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,120
>> Yeah. >> They have all these data centers and nobody with electricity to use them.
523
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,560
>> But isn't that happening some American towns now that they're basically going
524
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,040
you work out where you're getting your power now cuz we're selling it all to
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00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,200
the data center down the road even though you built >> There was a case, let me
526
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,320
I think it was XAI data center.
527
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Uh Memphis, is it the one? Uh Yeah, Memphis.
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00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Uh Colossus 2. It's like a
529
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,720
It's I think allegedly an illegal
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power station. Uh power to power
531
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,280
I guess Grock and the XAI stuff. And um there's one case, I forget exactly where
532
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,520
it was, I don't I'm not going to try to be too specific, but I remember I heard
533
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,080
about the town they put taxes up and people were all like, yeah, yeah, more
534
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
power cuz we have problems with the power grid or whatever and then they
535
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,040
they paid for this infrastructure and then they were like, oh, data center is
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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,240
going in. So, all power is going over there now, so [ __ ] you. >> Yeah.
537
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,960
Yeah, even though they paid for it all and >> Yeah, and they all going to go to data
538
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,760
center on the basis that it was supposed to solve the problem. Yeah.
539
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,360
>> Guarantee you the data center's also going to get tax cuts and everything and
540
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,880
>> Yeah. But, we need to be able to make those scam
541
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
phone calls. Oh man, I found this great video the other day.
542
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,120
Uh I'll see if I can find it for the show notes, but it was a It's a guy who
543
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,320
does the scam calls on YouTube. Yeah, there's there's a few channels like that.
544
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,960
>> Yeah, there's a few of them, yeah, yeah. Yep. >> There's this one
545
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,880
where you get the scam calls that are just AI. It's just an AI bot that talks
546
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,800
to you. And he says to it, um Sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you.
547
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,960
I've I'm hard of hearing. It would help me a lot if you could just pronounce all the
548
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:03,200
all the punctuation as you talk. For example, if you're going if there's a
549
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,720
comma, if you could say comma and then full stop, that would really help me.
550
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,680
And then if they ask like, I'm happy to do that for you, comma. No problem at
551
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,000
all. And then it starts doing that. And then he gets Okay, I'm sorry to trouble
552
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Could you like say the punctuation twice every time you >> [laughter]
553
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,880
>> say comma, comma, full stop, full stop. And he keeps doing it. And then he goes,
554
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,160
"Okay. And then every time you uh you say a word with the letter N, I have
555
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:34,200
trouble hearing the letter N or So, could you say Albuquerque, New Mexico?" >> [laughter]
556
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,040
>> And then it starts doing it. And then he's like gets into this loop because he
557
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,360
says, "I also need you to do it every time you say the letter N in the word
558
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,960
Albuquerque, New Mexico." >> [laughter] >> And then he literally just starts going
559
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,080
Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico,
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00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,040
Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. And he
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00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,240
like puts it on hold. And he comes back and says, >> [snorts]
562
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,960
>> doing that infinitely. Anyway, lots of fun. >> That's That's amazing. I I want to try
563
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,520
that. But we're I don't think we're getting AI calls here yet. >> Oh, really?
564
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,120
>> Or not that I've got anyway. >> It's good because it's funny and it costs them money.
565
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,920
>> Costs them money. And it also means that that's one line not going out to someone
566
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,400
else. But that doesn't really matter that too much anymore. It's all Yeah.
567
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,600
>> Also, as we discussed, it costs them money, but it's also
568
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,760
technically destroying the planet, I suppose, because >> Yeah. But
569
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,160
>> But not as much money as it actually costs. >> We don't care about the planet anymore.
570
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,680
That we gave up on that. >> Yeah, we figured that out, I think. We solved that.
571
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,120
>> Like global warming, all that that's that That's all over. We
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00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,640
need to make people have bigger boobs. >> Yeah. Yeah.
573
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,080
>> That's it. >> True, true. Um we've got some follow-up.
574
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Uh we talked about Uwe Boll's new film Citizen Vigilante briefly. >> Yes.
575
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:55,840
>> It was initially uh not being distributed because
576
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,280
well, I don't think it's very good, but also because um
577
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,480
Uwe Boll is apparently quite right-wing and um the film is
578
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,200
controversial in that sense, I believe. I'm going to watch it. I haven't seen it yet.
579
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,080
>> Mhm. >> But the understanding is that it's a violent, incoherent, morally bankrupt
580
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:20,080
slice of exploitation. >> I could see that. >> Um. >> Yeah.
581
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640
>> And and it couldn't get distribution,
582
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,120
but then apparently on on X, Elon Musk
583
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uh posted the film the complete movie on his account on X.
584
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,960
And and people were like getting behind it, you know, as people
585
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do. Not I mean not necessarily because they like it, just because it's become a
586
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thing. Where it's like, "Well, this guy, you know, people don't like his movie.
587
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,200
That's That's not right." So now it's getting distributed.
588
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,480
>> Yeah. So yeah, if you had have seen it at the time, you could have downloaded
589
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,040
it in its entirety for >> Apparently so. >> for 48 hours.
590
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,760
>> Yeah, but now it's being Now it's been picked up because there is an interest
591
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,920
in it. And it's actually the money that people businesses care about. But the
592
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,680
other thing is that Armie Hammer has come out in an interview, and apparently
593
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,160
he's freaking out because he became controversial. I don't know if you
594
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,800
remember this Armie Hammer cannibal business. >> Oh, yes, yes.
595
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,240
>> Yeah. So he got canceled over a bunch of stuff like I think I can't remember
596
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:25,400
exactly what it was. I believe there was some allegations made against him. >> Yeah.
597
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,400
>> And he got canceled, and he's been very quiet for a while. >> Yeah.
598
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,520
>> Uh after being quite a big star briefly. >> Yeah, cuz it's hard to come back from
599
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,920
from that. >> Yeah. More about that in the afterparty,
600
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,680
actually. We've got some afterparty uh news. But um
601
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,040
So this is kind of the a big thing for him to to be making a comeback, and he
602
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,640
was approached uh about the film, and he wasn't sent the whole script. He was
603
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,200
just sent parts of it, and he said, "Where's the whole Where's the rest of
604
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,000
the script?" And apparently Uwe Boll said to him, "Don't worry about it.
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00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,480
We're going to make a fun film. It's going to be fun. You're going to come
606
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,680
in. It's going to be great. And then he said, "All right." >> All right.
607
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>> So he came in and he did his scenes. >> Mhm. >> And then apparently
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saw the movie afterwards and started panicking because he
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So okay, this is uh uh someone in Armie Hammer's publicity
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team said Armie Hammer called him crying and saying >> Oh.
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>> [ __ ] this is a hateful disgusting piece of [ __ ] Like what do we do? What do we
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do now? How I don't want to be in this movie anymore.
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>> It's too late. You already got the check and it's done. >> Yeah. >> Oh.
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>> Yeah. So Uh he also said that um he was so desperate for work he would have done a
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[ __ ] cat food commercial at that point, which is why he said yes. >> Yeah.
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>> And then uh >> Just I'll do anything and he did anything and that's what you get. So he
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got a 250,000 for it. >> Yep. >> And he's regretting it. He thinks his
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career's going to be making a comeback to Well, still could.
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>> It's possible. He might get some good will from this.
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>> He gets some good will from this this uh angle, I suppose. >> Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, he could lean on to lean into either side.
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>> He did say he'd come back for the sequel. Uh which is a funny thing to end the
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interview on. >> [laughter] >> Are you upset about that, then?
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>> He said they That's what people were jumping on. But what he actually said was
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if they asked you to do a sequel, they asked him would you would you do a
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sequel to this movie? And he said it would have to be life-changing money.
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Everyone has a breaking point. So >> Ah. >> Sure. I mean, I'd [ __ ] do the sequel
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to this movie for that much money. >> right right. >> right amount. That's uh
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>> Everyone has a price. >> Yeah. So he didn't say, "Oh yeah, I'd do
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the sequel." He said, "If they paid me 50 bajillion dollars, obviously I would." But
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>> Yeah. All right. Well, you I'm not going to see it, but
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>> I'll watch it. >> I'll watch it. It's going to It's coming to Amazon Prime in the US.
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>> Yeah. I Uwe Boll is very interesting to me.
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>> He is. But I I I liked it when he was just making horrible cut but video game
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adaptations. That's what I like him for. Like all of those Postal um
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Bloodrayne >> all the stuff all the stuff he's doing
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now is like it's just darker than that. Like >> Mhm. >> he's like
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It's like he's trying to say something and I don't think I don't know if I like
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00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,320
what he's trying to say. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> It was better when he wasn't trying to
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say anything. >> Could you keep that in your inside voice? >> [laughter]
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>> Just make the funny zombie movie that's fun. >> Yeah. >> That was fun. Yeah.
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He's weird, dude. >> So, I nearly went and saw a movie today.
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I'm not going to get to see it next week, but I'll try and see it the week after. >> Mhm.
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>> Evil Dead. >> Oh, yeah. I've heard of >> That came out. Yes.
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So, I I was hoping to go see it today, but I didn't get a chance. But and I'm
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not going to see it next week cuz I'm in hospital. >> Mhm.
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>> So, next week. So, you have to wait 2 weeks for a review of that.
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>> When do you get out of hospital? >> I don't know if I mean I go in tomorrow,
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which will be Sunday, and I could be 5 to 7 days. I don't know.
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>> Yeah, you won't won't recognize the passing of time while you're I assume. >> No.
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>> So, all right. >> So, I want but and then I will go see
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the Odyssey cuz someone put it in our Discord that I have to go and see the Odyssey.
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>> You're welcome. Yeah, I got to get to see the Odyssey.
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>> I'll review two movies in a week. >> The thing with the Odyssey is
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I it's getting rave reviews. They're saying it's the best thing he's ever done >> Yes. and
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>> But there's also a lot of hate as well. >> Well, the hate is around >> stupid stuff.
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>> Well, it's >> [sighs and gasps] >> it's creative decisions like the accent
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stuff and the >> Yeah. >> You know, the costumes aren't
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technically period correct. But like we talked about this already, The Odyssey was written
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as like fiction. >> Yes. >> It was historical fiction written in a
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period that wasn't correct anyway. So, like it's just it's weird to say that
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it's not accurate because it wasn't accurate anyway.
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>> It's not meant to be it wasn't made written to be accurate. It's a story. It's
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>> Yeah, exactly. It's like if you wrote a story about, I don't know, like a
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medieval story and you used a bunch of modern language and and modern things in there
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now and then someone made a movie of it in like hundreds of years and then
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people said, "Oh, yeah, it's not accurate." Like it wasn't accurate in
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the first place. Like Yeah. >> You know, yeah, I've been hearing it's
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been getting yeah, just everyone is everyone who's seen it. >> Mhm.
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>> Cuz a lot of that's always a lot of the hate comes from people who haven't seen
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the movie. >> No, when as soon as the trailer came out people were picking at things.
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>> Yeah. >> The thing I don't know is So, you know, he's a big IMAX guy. This
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is all shot on the IMAX cameras and everything like that. Do I need to
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bother going to see it in IMAX? >> Maybe. I don't think you do anymore.
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>> I mean, it's not that hard for me to go. It's just like an extra 15-minute drive.
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So, do I need to? >> [laughter] >> I think the whole IMAX thing is sort of
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a bit over done with now. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's just me. I like I've only
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seen a couple of movies in IMAX and >> And the thing is
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I like wide screen. I I don't know. I like the I don't know. I just really like wide
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screen and IMAX is not wide screen. >> No. So
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I don't know. But also if that's the way he wanted it to be
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seen, that's the way he filmed it, I guess that's how I should watch it.
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I don't know, man. >> Is he paying for your ticket?
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>> No. No, I don't know. I'll call him and ask, but I don't think so.
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>> pays for your ticket, then he really wants you to see it in IMAX. If he's not
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willing to pay for it you see it how you want to see it. >> I want to see.
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Yeah, cuz there's an IMAX theater in Providence. I could go there. It's fine. I just
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>> Oh, can you get a ticket? >> Uh good question.
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>> want to see who got bought out, too. Who owns IMAX Providence?
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Oh, it's Apple Cinemas now. Not Apple Apple. >> Yeah. >> The >> But I want to see like if
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>> Yeah, somehow they're allowed to have that. >> when tickets went on pre-sale, the
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people were spending stupid amounts of money. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Whereas whereas all you have to do is just wait because if the people are
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spending that much money you got to see the movie you want to
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>> It's going to hang around for a little while. I could go on Thursday at
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6:00 p.m. in theory. >> Yeah. You just got to give Nolan a call, see
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if he's willing to pay >> Yeah. Oh my god, the theater is nearly full
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though. I have to sit right up the front. >> Ooh. >> I don't want to do that in IMAX.
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>> You just have to make that decision now then. So you won't be seeing it in a few
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weeks then. >> Yeah. You know what I I I >> I yeah, if the cinema's full for that
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now, I'm not going. I don't go to the movies when it's full. >> No.
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>> No, I don't like people. >> No. People are kind of annoying. Well I
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It depends, right? A movie like this, it could be good. I saw Dune
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and Dune part two at the IMAX actually, both. And with a big crowd. That was
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pretty good cuz the crowd was quite people were there to see the movie. I
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think the problem is when you go to like a uh a less uh
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formal scenario. Is that [laughter] the way to say it?
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You know what I mean? Like if you just go to your normal cinema and it's a
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bunch of people who are just there for like a party. Yeah. You know what I mean?
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I think if you're watching the Odyssey in IMAX day one, you're probably there
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to watch the movie, you know? >> Yes. Oh, let's see. Cuz it comes out this week.
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>> Mhm. >> So I don't know. Why am I even looking? Cuz
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I'm not going to not going to be able to see it this week.
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>> No. You're going to be in Canada. >> That's probably good. Oh, yeah. By the
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time I come out, people will stop going and I'll be fine. >> [snorts] >> There you go.
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I've got to see it before I go into hospital. >> Yeah. >> So.
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We're all We're all being hospitalized lately. Yeah. Getting old, man. >> showing off.
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>> Although apparently my issue is not that I'm getting old. My issue is that I was
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born this way, apparently. So, that's fun. >> And it's just taken this long to work it
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out. >> Mhm. Yeah. I've got to get my >> a seat belt. Which is sort of good.
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>> Got to get my spinal cord fixed, everybody. >> Yep.
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>> It's going to be fine. It's just got to be done, so. Mhm.
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>> I'd do it, but I'm not there. I could fix it.
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>> Yeah. Yes. With a pair of scissors and a some duct >> a power drill.
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>> Power drill. All right. [laughter] >> Like I don't have time to hang around
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with just a pair of scissors. >> Fair enough. >> Get in, get out. >> Yeah.
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Uh okay, a couple of other things. Uh some TV news.
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Uh what One show that's not coming back ever, apparently, is Mindhunter.
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And David Fincher said this week, "Stop asking him about it." >> [laughter]
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>> He's [ __ ] sick of it cuz he's annoyed that it's not coming back. And he hates
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it when people ask him because he has to say, "No. It's not coming back. It's done."
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>> I don't remember Mindhunter. >> Kidding me? It's [ __ ] excellent.
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Mindhunter's really good. It's about the FBI's uh you know, like when they finally
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realized serial killers weren't just evil, there was like some sort there was
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like a psychology to it and you could kind of talk to them and um
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there were patterns and you could figure out you know, maybe why they became
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serial killers and they kind of the FBI formed this division to kind of
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investigate and then figured it out. Oh, yeah, okay.
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Yeah, cuz it before that it was kind of like no, no, they're just evil. >> Yeah.
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>> And then it's like, well, no. Like there's something going on there, you know?
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>> But you're you're definitely not getting a season three? >> Season three. Mm. >> Yeah.
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>> It's a shame cuz that was very good. >> Stop asking cuz it makes me sad. I
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wonder So, this happened sort of just before pandemic time. So, was it
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canceled before because of that or just >> I think the problem,
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if I recall correctly, is that it was very expensive. Mm. Because it's Fincher. >> Yeah.
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>> And it was well-regarded, but it wasn't like
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you know, a mainstream it wasn't wasn't Teyon Demon Hunters or, you know, >> Stranger
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>> Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, exactly. It was kind of a bit niche.
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>> Like people who watched it liked it, but you weren't getting everyone hanging out
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to see >> a mainstream show. It's it's a yeah.
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So, I think that was the problem. Uh
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Yeah. But a show that has been renewed before season season two even has come
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out yet is a show that I really liked and it's Ludwig. Which is
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David Mitchell, one of my favorite comedians. Uh the show where he plays
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the brother of a detective, the twin brother of a detective who has to pretend to be
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the detective brother and solve murders. >> So, this I still need to watch.
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>> It's really good. >> Uh >> It's really good. So, the gist of it is
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that yeah, David Mitchell is a twin. He plays one one twin.
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Uh his brother is a detective in the police force. He writes puzzles for newspapers. Like
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crossword puzzles and and kind of he he makes puzzles. Anyway, his brother goes missing
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and to figure out what happened to him, he pretends to be his brother,
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which means he has to go and pretend to be a police detective. >> And uh
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it's great. It's really good. And he find and he discovers that he likes
764
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solving murders because it's a puzzle. >> It's a puzzle. Yeah, and I can see that.
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So, I'm all in for it. I just need to watch it. >> Yeah, it's really good. Anyway, so
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they've got uh season 2's been filmed. It's not out yet, but they've just
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pre-announced yeah, there's going to be a season 3 as well. So, yeah, that's good news.
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>> Yeah, no, definitely I I don't know why I haven't seen this yet.
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I mean, I could have come >> You've got to watch it. >> what something that's on.
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That could be the problem. >> I highly recommend checking it out. It's
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really funny. It's funny and good and clever and fun.
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>> It's probably on BritBox, I'm going to guess. >> Yeah, I think it is, actually.
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I mean, being in Australia, I think that's where I watched it. >> BritBox and Binge.
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>> Binge. >> Binge. I forgot about Binge. >> Ah.
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The bi- the word Binge just reminded me I watched the Australian Last One Laughing.
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>> Did you laugh? >> No. Uh I laughed at I once, maybe twice.
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>> Yeah, there was a couple of times, but it was not good. >> Good lord.
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>> Did you watch the Canadian one? >> No. No. The Australian one really put me off cuz
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I was like, [ __ ] man. Like, first of all, is this what people think
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Australian comedy is? Cuz that was weird, man. >> Uh the Australian I I don't know because
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they even had like Rebel Wilson come to do it and Rebel Wilson hasn't been done
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anything in Australia in years. >> I know. And then they had people in
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there who I think are genuinely very funny. Like Ed Gamble is very funny. >> Mhm.
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>> And I he got kicked out of the show halfway through for not participating,
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but I'm like, "I don't think he knew what to do with these people." Cuz it was weird, man.
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Like I was feel like I honestly felt like he he probably just didn't want anything to
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do with it. Cuz they were just Like getting shoving stuff up their ass and like
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It's just it got really strange. >> Yeah. No, I look the the Canadian one I
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quite like. They had like Colin Mockery and >> Oh, yeah.
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>> I love Colin Mockery and and then you I forget the other ones, but
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You when you they come on you go, "Oh, I know them from that. I know like you
792
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know them all." >> Yeah. That's the way I felt with the
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Australian one. There's there's someone I know like IRL was in there and I was
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like, "Okay, that's cool." And then uh like um Frank Woodley. Love him.
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Love Ed Gamble. Love him. And Like I said, but it just it got so strange. Um
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the British one is so good. I was like >> Well, I think it's cuz the British one
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I don't know. I think there's the British one a lot of those people they
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are doing a lot more comedy in different shows and things over there. There's not
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a lot in Australia. >> Yeah, man. I guess so. Uh yeah. >> I I I I
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The Canadian one was good. English one was good. Australian one was not good.
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I'd hate I look I hope American never finds out about this show though. >> [laughter]
802
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>> I can't imagine they'd be good at it. Yeah. >> I would be horrible. I don't even know
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what even comedians they'd get on there.
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>> Bill Burr. No. >> I'd like to see Bill Burr on Taskmaster.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they the British I think just their sense of humor works better.
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I I cuz I think actually it's I think it's a Japanese show originally, I found
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out when I was looking into it. Because I was like I don't know. The British
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one, I feel like they they're funny, they make jokes, they try to be clever. >> Yes.
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>> to to make people laugh and that. And then this one was just like they're just
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trying to poop and fart and like yell swear words and like really loudly and
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it it was weird. So, I don't know if this if the Canadian one is more clever. I
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heard the German one's very good, but it's also in German, which I don't speak. >> So.
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>> I'd have to see if it works with subtitles. >> Yeah, I wouldn't go Yeah, Germany is not
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really the one that I'd go to for >> Mhm. >> laughs, but okay. >> Yeah.
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But anyway, I noticed they've not made any more seasons of the Australian one, so. >> No.
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>> It seems unlikely to happen. Seems to have been broadly an embarrassment.
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>> And even that that first season was years ago, so yeah, I definitely don't
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think it's coming back. And you think they would have because
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it was such a cheap show to make. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, one day of shooting.
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>> Even That was the other thing, too. Production values versus the British one
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were much lower. You could tell. >> Yeah. >> It was just literally they just shoved
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them in a room. >> But yeah, but yeah, like it's yeah, one
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day of shooting, you pay them what they've You pay You don't have to pay them as
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much cuz it is one day of shooting. You get in, you film it, [clears throat] you
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get out, editing done. >> Yeah. >> [sighs] >> But yeah, so I was very disappointed.
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>> No. I think you should watch the Canadian one. I'm trying to remember
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other people in it. But yeah, you'll definitely know them.
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>> Okay. >> There's Green.
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Used to hate him. >> Tom Green? >> Tom Green. >> Tom Green is in it?
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>> Tom Green is in it. >> [ __ ] hell. All right. All right. I'll check that out.
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Before we go, one brief thing. You saw a movie the other week, Supergirl, and you
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said you were unimpressed by it, basically. >> Yes. >> Uh it's >> As a lot of other people
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>> Well, it's it's gotten worse than that on the internet, actually. It's one of
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those phenomenons where everyone just decides they're going to
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[ __ ] hate and [ __ ] on a movie. Uh, I don't know if a lot of people have even
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seen it, but like that [ __ ] turned real quick after Superman.
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Like, James Gunn's going to save DC. >> Yeah. >> And then now everyone's like, what is
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this [ __ ] disaster? Everyone hates >> One of the things that
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>> Milly Milly Bobby Brown. They hate her now? >> One of the things that they hate her cuz
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she wasn't hot enough and stuff and it sort of >> You thought she was hot before? What's
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What's going on? Like, I don't know. >> Like >> Yeah, it's feel really weird. Like
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It's It's gross. Like >> Yeah. It's I didn't like it, but I didn't like it
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because I didn't like the movie. I didn't like it because of
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I didn't find the actress attractive or something. Like, that's just seems a
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very strange way to >> I think it's Yeah, like I said, it's an internet pile-on.
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Like, not actual Well, it's hard, right? I don't want to say it's not valid
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criticism because from what I understand the movie's not that great. But then they go
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>> It's not. I I was honest about it. It's not. >> But they get weird. The internet gets
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weird about it. Like, yeah, the movie's not great and she's ugly. Like, okay.
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That's You don't leave That's not >> That's not why the movie's great. I don't think
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>> She's not. Exactly, she's [laughter] not. You're just being [ __ ] weird. >> Yeah.
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>> Like, why are you being weird? So strange.
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>> Yeah, it's just uh Yeah, it's just it is I do find it a
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shame that this is the second outing hasn't been as strong as
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Superman was and it's scary to see what's going to come from the future now cuz
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hopefully they just let him do his thing >> Mhm.
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>> and not try and jump in and take over. >> Because the interesting data point here
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is that apparently this has done worse than Blue Beetle, which is a movie that
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I don't think anyone even remembered existed, but that did better than this.
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Like how's that possible? >> This is This movie's everywhere.
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Everyone's I've cuz I've heard a lot of people talking about this. I heard no
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one talk about Blue Beetle when it came out. >> Apparently Blue Beetle's [clears throat]
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actually quite good. Uh >> Okay. >> But again, I forgot it existed because no one gave a
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[ __ ] Like >> Yeah. >> So yeah. But yeah, Supergirl's
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doing not good. >> Really bad. It's only what? 100 million
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and it cost 185 million to produce. Ouch. >> Not good.
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Anyway. Yeah. >> I've still got faith in James Gunn to do
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something. What's the next DC movie?
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>> Uh is it Man of Tomorrow? No. Clayface. >> Clayface. Okay. Oh, this might be This
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might be tough then. >> Mhm. Man of Tomorrow is next year and Clayface is later this year.
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>> Yeah, Clayface that might be a bit scary because >> Cuz it's a horror movie.
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>> It's a horror movie. Not a lot of people really know Clayface. When they think
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Superman, they don't Like a lot of the >> Clayface is more of a Batman kind of >> Yeah.
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>> villain, I think. >> So >> Mhm. I know him from the games.
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>> Yeah. So it's your third one. Now we'll see what happens. He's got a plan.
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>> Yep. Yep. We'll see how it goes. >> Pay the big bucks at the moment.
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>> Yep. Speaking of the big bucks, we don't have any We don't have any. So if you want to
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can yell at us and tell us what to talk about. >> Mhm.
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>> And for $1 a month, you can support the show financially, uh which we would
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really appreciate. Helps cover the costs because there are some associated with
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running this. And uh for Oh, you also get the show early for that. And for five bucks a
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month, you get the afterparty, which is where we're going to be talking. We've got uh
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some candidates for Geek of the Week, which is where we're going to be
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deciding Yeah, Luke's going to decide who's the best person who died this week.
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>> And uh or two weeks, I guess, technically. >> Yeah, two weeks now.
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>> And we've got some follow-up on some canceled celebrities. Some big-name
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canceled celebrities. Somebody's back, and it's not Neil Gaiman this time. >> He I
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You know I hate talking about canceled celebrities, but I'll do it cuz you pay me to.
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>> It's not Neil Gaiman. >> It's worse. A lot worse. >> [laughter]
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>> We'll see you there. >> Bye. >> That's all for this week.
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