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This small independent distributor took the film, put it out, and made eight hundred thousand dollars.
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So from that thirteen thousand dollars turned into eight hundred thousand dollars, and we was like, oh Hold on real quick, in case I missed it.
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They put it out on DVD or to the theaters.
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DVD.
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DVD and they made$800,000.
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All right, continue.
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I'm missing it.
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So so you know early.
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I know, right?
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So we had sort of accidentally on purpose stumbled into this space to where we can make these small independent films, made a ton of money, and we did nothing to lose for like a hundred thousand.
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The romantic comedy that went on to make four million, then they stopped reporting to us.
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They said, oh you know what I mean?
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Then they stopped telling us.
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Welcome to another episode of Killin' It Man with your host, Justin Hyatt.
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London Brown, BT Kingsley.
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And man, I'm super excited about our guest today, man.
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This is somebody that I grew up watching on TV.
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He's still young though.
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But I'm old.
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30, 36, everybody don't killin' it.
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Everybody 36.
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Running place between the ages of 30 and 40, 30.
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Exactly.
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But I gotta list off some of his credits because he actually got credits.
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You know, everybody knows the number ones be having credits.
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People got followers.
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You got followers.
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You got credits.
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Okay.
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Three strikes.
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Food's goal, fat beach, high school.
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I used to love that movie.
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I saw that in the theaters.
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The TV show Eve, Bluesworth, Moe Show, the Parkers, Adam Eve.
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Give it up for the woman number.
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What's happening, man?
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Man, I can't call it, man.
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Just trying to stay busy, keep it moving, and catch up with y'all, you know?
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You know what?
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So for I realized I don't know nothing about you.
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And I didn't look you up either.
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Because I didn't want to.
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I wanted this to be a true experience.
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So where where you from originally?
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Bakersfield, California.
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Born and raised.
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Small little country town, about an hour and a half north of LA, but more an extension of the Bay as far as the ways and the people, man.
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So I was born and raised there, man, and uh came out here for uh college, Cal State Northridge.
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What'd you make?
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Back in the day, I was an agent in math to be a teacher.
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But I was running around trying to get my feet wet outside of school.
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And then through the drama log, which is now uh backstage west or whatever, I got uh submitted myself for Fat Beach.
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Six auditions later, I got Fat Beach, and you know, and then it just started to go.
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So wait a minute, wait a minute.
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I was gonna ask you about that, because when I was going through your credits, I'm like, it looked like he booked Fat Beach like straight out the gate.
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That was my first movie, first role ever, dog.
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That's crazy.
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And when you said Dramalogue, what is that?
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Was that a It's Backstage West now, but it was Dramalog.
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It was a look just like Backstage West.
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You go into 7 Eleven, you get it.
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They have like independent films, short films, student films, and you said submit yourself.
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And so I submitted myself to Fat Beach, went, read like six, seven times Doug Ellen, who created uh Entourage.
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You know what I mean?
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He wrote and directed uh Fat Beach and you know, and that was that.
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Yeah, man.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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I got one more.
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Hold on.
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How did so the movie was always intended to go to the theaters?
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Yeah.
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And so they just had an open casting call for Well, no, I don't I don't think they knew where it was gonna end up.
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Okay.
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No, they just because you know they didn't have you know a huge budget.
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They was just shooting for the fence, but the movie came out, it was a beach movie, you know, it was girls, it was craziness.
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So, you know, and then it was a what was your theater experience before then?
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Were you had you done some plays or something?
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I hadn't done.
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I w I was just keeping a class at school.
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So after I had my math classes, I was um taking theater classes in school, took a class or two outside of school, but it was just running and hustling and gunning, man.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I know I'm up.
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So I uh I feel like we had Brandon T.
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Jackson on, and there was a part that I regretted after he left.
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Brandon T.
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Jackson is the logic and theory behind a lot of people that moved to LA, like, oh yeah, I'm a I'm a comedian.
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Be like, I'm gonna get on stage, and then I'm they're gonna see me, and then I'm gonna be a star.
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And it only kind of worked for him.
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Right?
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He he's the he's the story.
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I will not do this with you.
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Yeah.
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You went in, you had this role, you live in very rare fight air.
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I've had this conversation a couple times.
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We sat up and tried to count how many black male uh people have held that slot.
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So, like, okay, so Eddie comes out and he has this slot.
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It's like the it's like the Eddie fast talking, hilarious comic relief kind of thing, and you are one of few who has done it, excelled in it, and it is not a long list.
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I have tried to count.
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I'm saying like high level.
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I tried my shit.
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I canceled doing the commercial, bro.
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I'm talking, I'm talking but I'm talking specifically like on film, it's like 48 hours, money talks.
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It's like these two people are kind of running this film, and this guy, he every time we come to him, he got a kill.
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You own Fat Peach Killing.
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How is the response after you do a movie like that?
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Because I know I have a feeling that everybody had to go, wait, what the fuck was that?
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Yeah.
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Who is he?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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What is the response after?
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It was it was it was big, you know, because again, it was just uh it was a little engine that could.
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You know what I mean?
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It was just a small movie, you know, with Brian Hooks.
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Nobody knew who that was.
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Huggy, they knew from Lean O Me Juice, they didn't know who Doug was at the time.
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And so we just made this, you know, this beach movie, this sort of common age space beach movie.
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And then it came out, it went um, I think we we did like, I don't know, like a few million dollars, a couple, three million dollars on the box office.
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It was a small release, and then it went on DVD and went eight bananas.
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And made millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars.
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And so it was everywhere.
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And I think you know, fat beach is something that just lives because to this day, you know what I mean?
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Like, yo, you know what I mean?
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Yo, we used to watch that, we weren't supposed to be watching that like.
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You know what I mean?
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People expect me to show up with like before Bill Bell knew how to be a player, it was it was Fat Beach.
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That's made me to this day.
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I remember I went to Detroit for a show and it was the comic there.
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And when I didn't show up with a harem of I think I ruined his life.
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He seemed so depressed.
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He thought it was gonna be bitch and beach balls following me around, you know what I mean?
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So it was just it was just big, man.
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But as you know, I'm an independent dude.
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I was never really part of the, you know what I mean, any circles or anything like that.
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Um, but luckily I submitted my foundation and independent filmmaking to where I could keep moving and pushing along.
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It was never really waiting on anyone.
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You know what I mean?
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I jumped in and did the studio thing when you know when it made sense and when it wasn't, I was over here building this foundation for my film.
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What gave you that mindset to do that?
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Because see, I know I got friends who they're still kind of stuck in the Hollywood system.
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I'm like, man, you gotta go and create your own shit and stop waiting around for Hollywood to give you these opportunities.
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So what happened or what was your mindset that got you to be like, I'm not waiting on Hollywood, I'm finna get it.
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Yeah, it was sort of accidentally on purpose.
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Like I had a buddy Barry Bowles who was in the film school at C Sun, and I was asking.
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He did nothing to lose, right?
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Yep, yep.
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And then we uh we were sort of cool, and then long story short, he was like, I'm doing this film, you know what you think, let's do it.
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Um I put in a little money.
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He had won some money from gambling, from uh basketball games, and it was the the budget was like$13,000.
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There's a movie called Q, and when we finished, it was absolutely horrible.
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I mean, the shit was horrible, but it was 90 minutes and it was coming off the hills of Fat Beach.
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So Xenon, this small independent distributor, took the film, put it out, and made$800,000.
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So from that$13,000 turned into$800,000, and we was like, oh shit.
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Like, so hold on, real quick, in case I missed it.
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They put it out on DVD or to the theater.
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DVD.
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DVD, and they made$800,000.
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All right, continue.
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I'm missing it so you know early.
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I know, right?
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So we had sort of accidentally on purpose stumbled into this space to where we could make these small independent films, made a shit ton of money, and we did nothing to lose for like a hundred thousand, the romantic comedy that went on to make four million, then they stopped reporting to us.
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They said, oh shit, you know what I mean?
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Then they stopped telling us.
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And so at that time, like the studio distributor that we through, yeah, that we went through.
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Um, but we were making a ton of fucking money on these independent films, which, you know, it wasn't sexy at the time.
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You know, them people like it was either the studio or why are you doing it?
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You know what I mean?
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But you flash forward to now, we're in such an independent time to where it's like, how could you not be doing it?
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You know what I mean?
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So it was sort of a blessing in disguise back then.
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It was like, damn, I gotta wear 10 hats to get these things done.
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And now flash forward, you know, I know I can make a movie with my eyes closed of quality of any fucking thing out there.
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So it was a blessing, and we in a super independent time right now to where you're saying you can't, you'll be waiting on them forever.
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You know what I mean?
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You don't even know the deals or whatever, you know, you in an audition and then made, you know, the night before at dude's house when they was partying, doing whatever they do, whatever they do, and you know what I mean.
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And you you you just in there wasting your motherfucking time.
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That's a fact.
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So you have to be building towards doing your own shit.
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And it's a super independent time to where it's cool now to do your own shit.
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Low key, y'all was already ahead of the curve when you put it all in in perspective like that.
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Yeah.
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What are you are you guys still cool today?
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Me and Barry?
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Yeah.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Okay, cool.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Hold on, I wanted to know when you were doing like on your straight to DVD run as an actor in Hollywood, were you cool?
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Were you cool with that?
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Or was there a part of you that was like, Man, I wish I was in these movies.
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No, when we were doing it at first, like I said, it was accidentally on purpose.
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Like we was trying to do something, but we didn't know the gravity of what it could be.
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But once we seen it, it made sense.
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So we kept turning it, and it was a way, again, to not just be waiting on them.
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Right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So along the line, you always grind and to try to do the studio thing, which you know, Fools Go, High School High, and all them joints were, you know, a blessing.
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But, you know, as at some point I figured out, you know what, I'm getting more gratification off my, you know, the film we did for$150,000 than this$90 million budget for Fool's Go.
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I had a good time, it was cool, but I for me, it was more gratifying with those few people who were there because they love what they do or they believe in me.
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We made a cool film that random people come up and be like, yo, that one joint with the whoop whoop.
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And that shit filled me.
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Right.
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And so that was my foundation.
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And you know, and that's why you see uh, you know, a a lot of our talent talented folks who still waiting around.
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You know what I mean?
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Still waiting around.
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But I've always had that to lean back on and lean into um to sustain myself.
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You know what I mean?
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So if they don't ever do anything with me again, I'm always gonna be moving and grooving.
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And you gotta ask yourself what success is to you.
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You know what I mean?
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Because what they tell us is when you're on the billboard and such and such and them studio or whatever fool with you, then you made it.
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But you know, that's maybe if that's your goal.
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But there's a hundred other ways to be successful, you know what I mean?
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So if you can make a film when you want, how you want, with who you want, and make good money for that film, is that enough for you?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right.
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Well, no, no, no, you're not gonna be on the billboards on sunset, you know what I mean?
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You're never gonna get an award, but you could do what you say you love, make a great living off of it, how you want, when you want, with who you want.
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Is that enough?
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For me, it's enough.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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Now I don't think you keep pushing, you can have drive and keep going, but you have to sort of figure out what success is for you.
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How the fuck you know when you get there?
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Nigga, you passed success a long time ago.
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They got you spinning thinking, you know what I mean?
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You dancing for motherfuckers, you know what I mean?
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And you already successful, be like, you know what I'm saying?
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But sometimes they make you feel like if this person or these people or that group don't say you're successful, then you're not successful.
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You know what I mean?
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You ever think of how the nigga just be making urban films and be making hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, and then they be like, I gotta cross over.
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Nigga to what?
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Right.
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Right.
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Like, life is good, bro.
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You make you making more money than you can spend.
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You have an audience that loves you.
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For real, for real.
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Cross over, nigga, they need to cross over and come see you, where you at.
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Right.
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But that's just that mindset to where they trick you into thinking your success is not successful because you ain't defining shit for yourself.
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And especially when you're talking art, because art is all perspective anyway.
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And and the there's like a a vacillating energy and perspective between what is a studio film, what is an independent film, especially nowadays, and for not for nothing, what's good or what's bad.
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Fat Beach is hilarious.
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Way better, way better, way better, thousands of times better, and thousands of times funnier and hits the mark better than quote unquote studio, da da da.
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And you've done that consistently.
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Being in that space and understanding like what that rhythm is and and when you got something good, and what is that like as a filmmaker?
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It's like, and and how far are you involved in the space?
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Because in my brain, this is outside looking in.
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Um, oh, snap, Brian Hooks is in the film, he's gonna deliver, and I feel like your input has to be all over it because it keeps being good.
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I was like, and yeah, see other independent.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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LC Studio should not be that good, but it but whenever you're showing up, it's delivering.
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Yeah.
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What what what is that?
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I think it's just like I said, I started a long time ago, and at a time when I was like, damn, I had to wear all these hats, and I thought it was a burden, um, flash forward to where I know the details of filmmaking.
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And I know that the little things when you're trying to make a film of quality and you try to make it feel like a big film, it's the small things that mean the most.
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And you know, most filmmakers um they're not educated on filmmaking or whatever it may be, they're looking for the big things.
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Oh, these are the big things, let's do this, and that's cool.
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But it's those small things that have you feeling like, you know, watching a film like you know what I mean?
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It was talking about, no, it was cool, it was cool, it was cool, but you know what I mean?
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And so it's just knowing those small things that people think are you don't necessarily need that sort of pull your film out of a space.
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And most people watching can't tell you exactly what it is to make it feel not quite whatever, because it's those little shits that you mention, like sound, color, and shit like that.
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Yep.
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I was gonna say something, even my new for me is if you watching a movie and it's like a let's say a dinner, they're at a restaurant and a couple's arguing, but none of the background actors look at the couple that's arguing.
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They just feel like I'm like, in the real world, if somebody's arguing, you're gonna be like, what the fuck going on over there?
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So it'd be even little shit like that.
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It's the small things you have to pay into pay attention to.
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Yes, as a writer director, talking about as far as you mentioning all the different hats you wear, what exactly is the role of a producer?
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I think the producer is is um it's just sort of like the quarterback of very I don't know what the deck might be, the quarterback, and the producer I I think was more so the coach.
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You know what I mean?
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And you sort of have to have your hand in everything, you know what I mean?
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From who's the talent to hiring the talent to the locations, it might be the GM.
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Yeah, it's a it's a you know what I mean, and to to the director and you know, and and how's he working, are they moving along?
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So you just have to sort of you're the manager of the whole thing, you know what I mean?
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And it helps to be um, you know, just have knowledge of what everyone is doing, you know what I mean, from the actors and and the cameraman and the lights and the location.
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You might have someone to do those specific things, probably not if you're doing a small independent film.
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So, but you have to know what they're doing and you have to manage and know, you know, what's up, you know what I mean?
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Because most people might miss details that cost you a whole day.
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You know what I mean?
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You show up to, you know, uh a restaurant where you don't work the deal and you got four hours to be, you know, in and out, and you show up there and you know, and the time is whatever, and you don't have no money to re-up for another day, nigga.
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I barely have the money for this day.
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Right.
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You know what I mean?
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So as a producer, you just kinda you have to have your hand in every single element to ensure that you're successful, and when you finish shooting whatever you, you know, plan to shoot, you have all that shit, and you're not needing to go back because that could be costly.
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Everybody, stop what you're doing right now.
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Make sure you subscribe to Killin the Pie.
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Boom.
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What's the toughest lesson you've had to learn about independent filmmaking?
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It's it's every time, man.
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Every time you step, it's gonna be something.
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Yeah.
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You know that's so that's why when the shit hit, don't even trip.
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Just know that as much as you know, it's gonna be something.
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You know what I mean?
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So ain't no need at, oh man, or this and that.
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Just take a deep breath and say, okay, what are our options to fix it?
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A, B, and C, and choose the best case scenario.
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But I think you have to, um, I think some of the, you know, the biggest lessons I would say, um just make even talent, man.
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Like you have to, you know, you have to kind of know if you have, you know, because you know, as actors, you know, they show up to be, you know, get their ass kissed.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I want to be a celebrity.
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It's like, yeah, nigga, we don't, we, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, we we need you to change in the SUV.
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That's why we rented that SUV.
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Like, I could have just brought the camera.
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A fiance dealt with the same thing.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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So it's like, um, you know, you might be thinking, oh, I'm getting such and such, but such and such come and blow up the spot because they're not willing and don't understand it.
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Like, nah, it ain't that.
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So you have to be tell folks, even cast and crew, what it is and what it ain't, man.
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Like, I don't have a lot of money.
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This is what I'm paying.
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And a lot of times we want to get such and such, or we want to get this person so we promise them something that we don't have in hopes or expecting to have it by then.
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And you just gonna blow yourself up.
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So you gotta let people know what it is and what it ain't.
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We don't have this, we don't have this, we don't have this, we do have this, we do have this.
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And like I I let people know that like this is what it is, this is what it ain't.
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We're gonna make a dope ass movie.
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And we don't know if one mil one person's gonna see it or one billion people gonna see it, but it's gonna be some shit when they do say it.
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Yo, that was dope.
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That was dope.
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That's what I can promise you.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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And so you have to let people know what you're working with, what it is, what it and let them decide whether they want to come on or not.
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And I do that with my crew, you know what I mean?
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Like this is this is the rate for this, you know.
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So they can say, Oh, yeah, nah, I can't, I can't come from that.
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You know, I need to be free, and yeah, I can respect that.
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But if you do, nigga, approach it as if I'm paying you a million dollars a day.
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Or don't come.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like don't don't come and give me a half ass effort, you know what I mean?
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And so people say, Okay, yeah, no, I'll rock with you.
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Or they say, Nah, I can't do that.
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You know what I mean?
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But That's to let them know what it is and what it ain't up front.
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So people don't get on the set and be surprised about, you know what I mean?
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I'm a big believer.
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If you can't handle the small shit, you can't handle the big stuff.
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And so I be seeing people, they be thinking like, oh, well, when I get on an ABC set, you know, I'm an actor.
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It's like, man, I'm a need to be able to get a big thing.
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You gotta deliver here first.
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And then get your ass on ABC set.
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Everybody ain't Brian Hooky right now.
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Can't go from college to number one on the call shit.
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That'd not be happening, bro.
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And even, but like even what you were saying, like, we've had this conversation before.
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It's like, uh, I won't say any streamer specifically, flicks.
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The something about sometimes when you're watching it, and like you said, it's like I'm watching this, and this thing has all the elements that I like.
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I love this actor, I love the genre.
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I can't put my finger on it.
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But it's a disconnect.
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I was like, why is this not uh who's it?
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Like the curl just ain't just curl all the way over.
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Curl it.
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I was like, and I want to love it.
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It's like it's right on the cusp.
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It's like those little elements.
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Those little elements that you probably can't even identify to just be fucking with your ears, yeah.
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Fucking with what you're seeing, yeah, you know, and it's knowing those things.
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So being in both spaces, because you were um you you've lived in in both worlds, the independent and the industry, uh speak to the creative control that you have and how how much range you have in in the two worlds.
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Because uh I'm gonna go out on limb and say you've it was some riffing, it was some improvness, you be all over these films.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I think what um, you know, as far as range and control with um Laughing to the Bank, I made it with my my real brother and my real best friend and my real cousin who my best friend, and we just went out and did, you know what I mean, some shit that if they've ever had given me anything, they would have canceled me and took it back for that.
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Right, right, right.
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They gave me shit to take, right?
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We need to cancel him.
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Oh, we ain't gave him shit.
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Damn, you know, but it's just the ability to go out and really just do what you want.
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Because as soon as you go into a studio or something, or whomever, you have a dope.
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Niggas, the first thing he's gonna do is tell you why it ain't gonna work.
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You know, oh yeah, nah, what do you what do you mean, bro?
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Like, I've seen some of the shit y'all did, bro.
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Snock it off.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, and so they they just itching to tell you how and why it don't work.
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But y'all are talented.
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So when you come with something that you done thunk up, nine times out of ten, it's good.
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And they just don't see the vision, or they do see the vision, and as soon as you walk out the room, they're gonna figure out how to do it without you.
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It's either one or two things.
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We've heard that.
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It's it's either one or two things.
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We've heard it, we've had that said several times with the guests that come on, and we talked about just early within the show, which is how a lot of times it feels like the industry has to catch up to the talent.
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Like the talent is already, people just are not getting it.
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And that's why also it seems like I think while uh most creators have I think that's why we're in the space of a lot of creative doing independent stuff because it's like you're waiting for people to get it, and I think creators are realizing like I don't think they gonna get it.
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Right.
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:35.440
So now let's just um but what what what has um what job or experience do you feel has taught you the most about who you truly are?
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I think um I think the Eve show, you know, it was a long run.
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Great job on there too many.
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Thank you, thank you.
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We were on there for like three or four years, and it was a it was a comfortable time financially with uh, you know, shit ton of money, and you just really got to settle in and look and see a bunch of different lenses from production to people to the reaction of people to you to to to talent.
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And I think that was just a time where it really allowed me to see things with my eyes wide open and see, you know, how great, you know, being in the studio, whatever system is, and also the cons of how it turns so quick and relying on them completely when you set yourself up for failure.
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.279
Um what do you mean by turn so quick?
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Like when the show get canceled?
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Yeah, when the show get canceled, like with Eve, it was just oh, you know, Warner Brothers or whatever, you know, bought UPN or whoever the merger, and then it was like, oh, okay, well, we gotta do the new shows now.
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.160
So it was not that the show wasn't good, it wasn't performing or any of that.
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It was just you know, we signed a new thing, so let's get rid of everything.
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So and I think it just taught me to always keep my eyes open, always stay planning, always stay moving, and it was just a lesson.
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When it's good, it's great, and plan for that, but don't assume that anything is gonna go on forever.
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Have a plan that allows you to sustain independent of anyone.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's so fun, bruh.
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That final season, that last two seasons of MacGyver, they would basically they were underpaying me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And season four, I was like, I gotta slap their head.
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Because I'm like, I know this show is gonna end.
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Yeah.
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And before this show ends, I need to stack some bread and invest in some real estate so I can always have some bread coming in if I'm not on a TV show.
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And that's exactly what I thought.
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Money.
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I want to hear shit and then they canceled our black ass.
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Give me your money and then I get the show.
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:13.759
Yeah, but anyways, that's just like you know your point, because the shit will come to an end.
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And I think people be thinking when they get on these shows, this shit gonna last forever.
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That's the assumption.
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You know what I mean?
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You just be so caught up, you don't think logically that at some point it has to end.
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What's the exit plan?
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You know what I mean?
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They'll cancel your shit whether you would have stuck them up or not.
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That's a freaking good thing you hit that ass.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You can't rub it.
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Lap it in the back.
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:49.599
On that, on that note though, on the the space of Eve, because it is this uh the industry space.
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I remember watching uh and I don't I don't know you at the time, but I remember I was sitting there and I remember they started doing a promo for the show.
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I was like Fat Beatle!
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Fat Beatle! Fan Beach!
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Fab Beach, TV, TV Like I remember that moment.
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How does that come along?
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Is it because of what you had created or is it just like an audition?
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See, the thing for me is I was always a little too when they wanted a black person, they didn't really want a nigga.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And I had a nigger tendencies.
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Yeah.
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:38.000
So Epps probably would have never got cast for a CBS, but Cube recognized that that's what the culture is about, a Mike Epps.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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He was in charge, so he recognized that.
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So I was very nigga-ish.
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You feel me?
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:56.720
So when we when they say they want a black dude in a show, like, I mean, we don't want to black.
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Not that black.
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.960
Someone who's you see it on network, you see it on network TV.
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No, no, they just want someone who's black, not blackish.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So when I would go in and do my thing, I was I'm fat beach.
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You feel me?
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.079
Like niggas do job, you know what I mean?
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:19.200
That's very, you know, big, and they never really, but I didn't know that at the time.
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.359
So it was gonna take some shit to line up.
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It had to be some real niggas in the room for me to get it, a job.
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You feel me?
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.519
Or else, you know, we want that water, we just want your skin to be black.
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You know what I mean?
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:43.440
We don't want any kind of yeah, unless, and so with uh Meg, uh Troy Carter, Eve, like Troy Carter was a part of Troy Carter was the EP of Philly.
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You know, Eve and Philly.
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So they was new, then was niggas.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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So you know, he was funny, but it was, you know, he was, you know, it was it was maybe too, maybe too much, you know what I mean?
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And so, but they got it.
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You know what I mean?
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:10.960
They got the they got the character and they got the funny, and you know, we read for casting and then producers and then networking.
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.799
Y'all know how that TV shit go.
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:21.119
You had to read for the for the executives, kids, you know, church people now come to my church and read for them.
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:31.440
Sunday school, like and so, you know, finally they pulled the trigger, and you know, and it was um, and that was that, you know what I mean?
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:38.640
But I think it was, you know, the the the black folks in the room who recognized that, you know what I'm saying?
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.440
And then that's how Fat Beach got on TV.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.599
But every day, you know what I mean, that check hit.
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:44.799
I felt like we were stealing my.
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.559
I was like, nigga, we gonna get in trouble.
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.640
Oh my god, I could make nine movies with that.
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.240
And then I was just like, we finna get arrested.
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.200
Any day they're gonna kick in this door, be like, get on the ground.
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:07.680
Like, you touched on something, I talked to my wife about this, which is you can't, they don't really want you too black.
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.920
They don't want you to that's part of my problem.
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:14.559
Yeah, I have the face of Martin, yeah, but my spirit is X.
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:15.200
Right.
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.920
And it looks like I got my social media, they was like, oh, this nigga.
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.240
That's a fact.
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:29.920
That's a real shit.
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:37.200
My mama used to be like, you might want to pull nigga tone niggas because these people watch it.
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:38.079
Seriously, man.
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.680
If you look at network TV today, you don't see no real nah.
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.519
You don't see, I don't care who's working.
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.640
If it ain't a power show, if you not talk on some drug type shit.
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.079
A real, you know.
00:32:52.319 --> 00:33:00.240
They don't have no regular, if you just a regular black nigga, you able to get hoes, you play basketball, you listen to hip hop music, you're not gonna be.
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.079
The black people you see, they either go be, I'm gonna I'ma say it.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:09.920
I'ma say it.
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.000
They want you as non-threatened as possible.
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:12.559
Exactly.
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.640
If you gotta lisp, that helps.
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:16.720
That's number one.
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:18.160
I'm going easy first.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:18.960
You're going easy.
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.359
You gotta lift that notes.
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:29.119
Number two, if you a nerd, if you come, if you consider yourself as a black nerd, you in there.
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:29.599
Yeah.
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.519
If your girlfriend or wife happen to be white, you in there.
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:36.240
Nigga, you work.
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.359
An indigenous kind of indigenous, hey, you say what you want.
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.279
So it's either that, it's either you gotta be on a power type show, so shit.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.160
Well, nigga, I'm five, six.
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:50.559
Right.
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.720
I'm not gonna be on no type of parent shit.
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.960
Cause I'm not six four with nigga.
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.039
You know what I'm saying?
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.760
Anyways, I'm standing all of that and saying you brought something up, but I didn't want to kind of bypass that because that is where the industry at.
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:20.880
Hold on, before you get to your shit.
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:21.519
No, you're good.
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.280
I do want to ask this question to to piggyback on all of that.
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:33.119
Why don't you think the industry is not making the black sitcoms and things like that that they used to?
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:34.079
They don't want to.
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:35.199
They never wanted to.
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:47.119
Even back then, they didn't want to, but it's sometimes they get back into a corner to where it's a good PR look, or it's um beneficial because we got to kick start this network.
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.039
They always kickstarted on black shows.
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.719
Martin was on Fox, that was, you know what I mean, the small whatever.
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.679
Once that blew up, they bailed on the black stuff.
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.199
And then it was out of here.
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.159
Martin, you and Gina.
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:58.559
Yeah.
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.519
Then it was uh UPN that built that up, bailed, you know what I mean.
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.440
Then uh Warner Brothers built that up.
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.840
They always springboard off of us.
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:17.920
Tubi was a whole bunch of black shit, and you know, he he cashed and you know, went to the bank with that, and now they're gonna start filtering that shit out too.
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.039
Now that Fox got it, everybody who started it is gone.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.599
So they just gonna weed that out as well.
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.880
So that's what they do it because it makes great business sense.
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:35.599
But there was an executive older white dude at a big company who just said, We we just don't like doing stuff with black people.
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.719
And he struggled straight like that.
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:49.679
And it was someone who, you know, you know, uh, you know, somebody you get a certain age and you know, a black older man say anything, older white dude just say what's the same.
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.280
I'm taking a whole photo, yeah.
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:52.239
I gotta take it around.
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:53.039
We don't like you.
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:54.639
We don't like you.
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:59.599
And so they do it because, you know, like, oh shit, we done 20 white movies.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.519
We should we gotta do one.
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.760
Yeah, so they don't appear racist.
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:04.320
Right.
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.320
So unless it's a PR thing, so they just don't care to.
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:25.280
Sometimes it's just whatever, but if you go out there and you trailblaze and you know, you you know, you create waves, and you know, it's like, oh well shit, we gotta do two, and and then you get chosen, and so they tolerate it, but they just don't care to do it.
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:32.880
Which is crazy because it speaks to you know, something deep rooted because that don't even make sense business wise.
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.280
No, financially, he admitted that financially.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:36.559
It would make more sense.
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.840
It always makes money, but we just don't like to work with it.
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:49.039
I talked to uh uh uh a comedy club owner and he was like, there's not any really there's no middle white acts.
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:55.119
Either you're or you're you're not there yet.
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:01.519
And it was like for he was like black comedy and black funny keeps my club open.
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:14.320
He was like, he was like, without the big black headliners coming, it doesn't there is not a uh if DL's not here or said, it's like it's like you talking some of the top tier comedians that have ever lived.
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.880
He was like, there's not a white counterpart to this.
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.119
Right.
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.599
He's uh and and if there was, there's nowhere near enough.
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.519
I know that the if you look at any comedy club in the world, that's how it is.
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:32.719
So it's like I I'm saying that to say if a studio head understood that when you're talking funny, it ain't gonna you ain't gonna get too far away from us.
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:33.119
Yeah.
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.199
We that's a space we dominate.
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.960
We dominate kind of all the spaces.
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:37.199
Yeah.
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:45.920
But y'all know that this one is is our so to not do the situational comedies with us when you look at the greatest situational comedies, that just look at the top of the list.
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:47.519
So they don't care.
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:47.840
Yeah.
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.480
They're not like, oh yeah, we forgot.
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:51.760
They just don't care.
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:53.840
It's you know what I mean.
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:54.880
This is fucked up.
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.679
You know what I mean?
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:56.639
But it's what it is.
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.920
They're not confused, they don't like, oh, we didn't see these numbers.
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:01.920
They know the numbers, they know all that.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.840
It just they don't care.
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:04.880
So you know what I mean?
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:16.400
So you're so fat beach happens, uh the there's a we somebody not paying attention would see Fat Beach and be like, oh, that was this beautiful moment.
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.800
But then there's three strikes.
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:20.320
You did it, you did it again.
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.320
Like you, like you did this, you did this.
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.800
You you kept delivering every time I saw you on screen, you was killing.
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:27.519
Yeah, absolutely.
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:28.320
Yeah, cool.
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.400
Quality, like you said, like the Q is like some might be here or there, but hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:33.599
That brother's gonna deliver.
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.760
Now Kale, Kale, Kale did the show.
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.199
We're about to drop that episode.
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.840
He said he was originally offered that role.
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:40.480
Which one?
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:41.599
Three strikes.
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:42.239
Kale?
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:43.840
Kale said that.
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:44.960
He said he knew.
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.519
No, Kale, it was down to me and Kale for Eve.
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:51.519
Maybe that's what he was talking about.
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:52.559
It was down to me and him.
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:53.039
Yeah.
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:54.719
We tested, it was us two.
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:55.599
Yeah.
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:56.320
Yeah.
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:58.000
Yeah.
00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:59.679
It was down to me and him for Eve.
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.440
And he may have read for three strikes.
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:02.000
I don't know.
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:03.360
Dude, I don't know.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.280
When it comes to um Yeah.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.159
What you tell me?
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:08.800
We gotta talk about three strikes.
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:10.559
Okay, yeah.
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:20.400
Yeah, I I just want to know, just like uh delivering in that space when this when this when this another another hit, what is the feel at that point in time?
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.679
Once that comes out and people are like, ooh, we're here again.
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:32.719
Yeah, no, I think for I think um that's when you you have to have a publicist is important.
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.079
It's is important more important than a manager and an agent.
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.320
You have to have people saying, hey, please look at him.
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.800
You gotta look at him, look at him, look at him.
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:43.920
You have to have that.
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:50.159
Now with social media, you can kind of do that yourself if you stay active.
00:39:50.559 --> 00:40:00.400
And I and with that, and it's what I didn't know at the time is it's really they don't give a shit about that.
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:08.719
You you're going to be hot depending on again, if you're in those circles or not.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.599
I don't give a fuck how talented you are, whatever.
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.840
If you're in our circle, we're going to push you.
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.320
If you're not, we're not.
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:19.280
You know what I mean?
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:31.280
Unless you have like, you know, again, you have somebody like a cube or, you know, like a 50 or something who has their own lane and who's fooling with you.
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.800
Back then, as far as the studios and shit like that, it was it was their circles.
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:44.159
And not, and it didn't really matter what, you know, the streets thought was hot or what we thought were hot, it did not matter.
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.079
I've never been in those circles.
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:53.280
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't party, I don't pretend to like to do shit that I don't actually like to do.
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.480
So you feel me?
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:55.360
You know what I mean?
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:04.639
So if if I'm not willing to do that, and again, you know, you can't be in a room full of niggas doing crack and you sitting over there in the corner not doing it, you like, oh, that nigga gonna tell.
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.360
Yeah, they'll trust.
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:06.320
We will.
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:06.719
Yeah.
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.639
And I say, like, we all in here naked and he not, like, he's gonna tell on us.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.719
You know the one dressed at the Diddy party.
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.360
So and at the end of the day, like they keep coming to offering the Jeep.
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:20.719
No.
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:22.239
You sure?
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.920
You sure you know, and so they hire, but then that's it's fucked up.
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.519
But that's the reality.
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:40.719
Yeah, if I was doing something and they said, and it was out of U3, and we said we three niggas, and they gave me four groups of three, you three and three others that I didn't know.
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.000
I'm fucking with y'all.
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:42.320
Why?
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:43.280
Because I know y'all.
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.440
Yeah, you know, is that bad?
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.039
I don't fucking know, but I know them.
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:47.920
I don't know them.
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:48.239
Yeah.
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:55.360
So when I wasn't in the circle of whatever they was doing, and they picking, they didn't pick me.
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:55.840
Right.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.559
Feel me?
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.320
So is it fucked up?
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.400
Maybe, but people go like, nah, we were naked doing drugs together.
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:03.519
I'm hiring them.
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:04.320
You know what I'm saying?
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.800
Like, is Trixie Market available?
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.639
This is my guy.
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.199
You don't know this.
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:19.599
So a lot of that shit didn't have to do with your talent or what niggas in the hood thought of the film or the numbers or any of that.
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.559
You know, which we're seeing now with all this shit that's coming out.
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:24.079
It's like, hey, wait a minute.
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:25.760
You mean I didn't have a chance?
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:33.199
So it's like, you know, it is, it is what it is, and they're not always about who's the best person in the room.
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:34.400
That is Yeah, yeah.
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:41.599
I wanted to say that that black fame don't necessarily translate to white crossover.
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.639
And I say that to mean because that's kind of what you were saying.
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.000
It's like, yeah, I did three strikes, but I wasn't in them circles.
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.840
So we cared about three strikes.
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:50.480
Right, absolutely.
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.480
But them people over in that other circle, that was like to them, that's just a black movie.
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:56.079
I would just call it spade a spade.
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:02.159
I heard Tracy Ellis Ross say, after girlfriends, mind you, girlfriends went, what, five, six seasons?
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:02.800
Yeah, for sure.
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.400
She still had to audition.
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.679
She she said it was no offers coming in after girlfriends.
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:07.920
Yeah.
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.880
And I think the audition for Blackish came up.
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:18.639
I don't know if it was Blackish particular, if in particular, or a different audition, but she said they wanted her to come in and audition.
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.960
And she was like, I'm not going in and audition.
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.679
And her agent said, She was like, I just did fucking girlfriends for six seasons.
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:26.639
They don't fucking know me.
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:27.760
Right, you know if you want me.
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:28.559
You know if you want me.
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:42.719
And her agent said, listen, it was either her agent or one of her homegirls was like, listen, either you go go in and audition and get this role, or it's gonna be some new person fresh off the bus, go go in and audition and get this role.
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.239
I think she was talking about blackish.
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.960
So she went ahead and auditioned and booked blackish.
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:54.320
But I said all of that to say all that black success that she had garnered didn't mean shit when it came to ABC.
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.760
That's why, you know, uh that's what I'm also I've thought I had this conversation before, which is like the people.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.760
People that in our culture that we deem is is up there.
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.119
I mean, of course you got we know the Don the Denzel Don Cheetos for Word of then another thing.
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:20.320
But I still feel like I still feel like the cast like how other groups look at like a Matt Damon is how black people look at like a Lorenz Tate.
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:24.960
And it's a cast with like bona fide, certified resumes.
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:26.320
That's that's what it is.
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.480
And it's just interesting that the the world we live in.
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.119
Exactly.
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:38.000
But into that, and what he was talking about, how we were able to appreciate Three Strikes, I think that's one of those things that we appreciate about what you do.
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.440
And that's why we still like Martin, because we haven't seen any niggas for real.
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.880
Like Martin is like cold, like unfiltered.
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.480
I mean, of course, even with the cursing, that might have been the only thing that that might have been taken out.
00:44:50.639 --> 00:45:03.440
But all outside of that, we still saw us when we, when we, when, you know, and that's why what makes three strikes so cool, which is even though other people didn't get it, you know, some things aren't for people to get.
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:03.599
Right.
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:08.559
But I think we understood just, you know, uh that performance.
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:18.000
So not to be verbose about that, but within that performance, what is it that you think you do or what's your approach to show up as you do?
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:28.960
Like uh when we, at least when I look at Three Starts, I'm not looking at, and it's not negative, I'm not looking I'm not looking at an actor, I'm looking at somebody I know.
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:29.599
Right.
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:42.559
One of my neighbors is this is and it's just it's kind of interesting because we're like a we're like a you know, the camera and how it's shot, we just feel like we feel like we're watching from behind the bushes and seeing this adventure.
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:45.119
Y'all part of it.
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:46.320
Come over to the queen.
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.519
You're just gonna come right over here.
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:48.960
What was that process, bro?
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:58.880
I think one, you gotta shout out to DJ Pooh because he has he just has uh organic hood voice.
00:45:59.119 --> 00:45:59.599
You feel me?
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:00.639
Oh, he wrote that joint.
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.280
DJ Pooh wrote that and directed it.
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:13.280
Nice and so he has a very organic voice, sensibility, and understanding of the hood.
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:19.679
And I think with me, I don't try to be funny, right?
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.679
I stick, I I play everything real.
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:34.400
It's the it's the kind of shit that's not funny when you in it, but like in a year from now or two years when you with the homies and they didn't remember that time, nigga, shot you with the foot.
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.000
But in two years when you cool, it's funny.
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:48.880
And so I never with the character Rob reach for anything, like the circumstance and the situation, it wasn't really funny.
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:53.119
But because it wasn't true, yeah, it was funny, you know what I mean?
00:46:53.280 --> 00:47:10.559
And so it's staying real in those moments and making sure never to push the funny, like you can find the angle that's the most funniest, but you never reached or, you know, Rob never really told a joke.
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:11.599
You feel me?
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:17.360
Like it was just all within the range of the shit that was going on.
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.360
Reacting to the bullshit that's happening.
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:19.519
Right.
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:20.960
Yeah, we we felt you were scared.
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:21.840
We felt all the stuff.
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:23.039
Yeah, you know what it is.
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:30.960
It was a strike punk, it was scared, but I never, like, oh, if I say this right here, I never went outside of that.
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.679
And I think that's what people love.
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:36.800
Like, yo, this thing is, you know what I'm saying?
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:42.719
And that's why you felt like, you like you say you wasn't watching the actor, you was just watching and involved in the shit.
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:49.039
And I think it was that combination that made it, you know, why why it shit has legs and people love it so much.
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:49.440
For sure.
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.039
Were you an EP on that?
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.239
Three strikes, no?
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:52.639
No, no.
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.440
Because I was trying to figure out like, why isn't it available on a tubi or something like that?
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:04.400
If you had MGM owned it and then it came back, so now, you know, nobody has it.
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:09.440
So going back and forth with pool and we trying to figure out the best case scenario.
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:10.559
Get that release, yeah.
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.440
Okay.
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.440
Man, we don't never get to ask this kind of shit, bro.
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.559
Do you feel like you?
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.199
Okay, so okay.
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:25.679
I'm outside looking in.
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.000
Uh I decide I'm doing entertainment sophomore year high school.
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.599
I was like, I don't know what I want to do.
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.280
I know I want to do what Eddie Murphy's doing.
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.199
All right, cool, Eddie's Eddie, da da da da.
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:41.360
And then what happens is as you're in this business and you really get into the thick of it, you start seeing the good guys win.
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.960
So it's like certain things just like kind of set off like tones for you.
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.440
It's like it's a competition show you thought was some bullshit, and then you see somebody where you're like, hey man, that's a real nigga.
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:49.599
Yeah.
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:50.320
You know what I'm saying?
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.519
So it's like, you made a a legacy and a career.
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:59.519
I don't know if you noticed it that Brian Hooks, but when motherfuckers is talking, you are the king of independent film.
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:00.880
Do you feel that?
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.440
Like, do you do you understand, like, like do you not do you understand, do you feel it?
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:16.320
Do you feel that the trailblazing that you did in being a precursor to everything that we're seeing now and cutting through all the malarkey and all the they not fucking with you?
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:17.440
Hey man, fuck them.
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.039
Shit, I don't give a damn about that shit.
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:20.079
You did it.
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:21.039
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:26.320
Because when I see you ain't never mummy, you don't look struggling, you'll seem bitter, you always seem good.
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:28.320
So I was like, do you feel that?
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:33.920
I think um I don't walk around with it like well, you know I did, you know.
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:35.280
You know what I mean?
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:45.199
Because I'm always busy doing what I'm doing, but I I do understand that we, you know, was doing it first.
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:46.800
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.119
And um there's a lot of people who doing it now, trying to do it now.
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:56.559
Big people who came and you want to pick my brain, and how do you do this and how do you do that?
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:57.519
Huge people.
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:58.559
You know what I mean?
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.039
And um, and so, you know, I bless them.
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.079
I you know, I ain't never, you know, JK keeping it.
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.320
You know, yeah, here's who it is, X, Y, Z.
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:11.360
And uh they go cool cool and they go off and um and they do it.
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.280
So so I do, I do understand that.
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:14.159
You know what I mean?
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.440
That you know what I mean?
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:21.039
We we were doing it at a time when nobody knew how or what or when.
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:27.360
And again, like I say, it was sort of accidentally on purpose because I didn't even know what it was setting me up for.
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.800
But I think it was the freedom.
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.000
Like you say, you you know, you see a nigga, you say cool, you know what I mean?
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.360
I can do it all right.
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:48.400
And it was just because all those jewels I was giving back then that I maybe didn't even know the magnitude um that allowed me to be cool and okay, independent if anybody else ever fools with me again.
00:50:48.880 --> 00:51:00.400
I think for I think for you, I think from the other people that we've seen from their perspective, if the producer of you isn't always in the forefront and it's led by the talent.
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:08.719
So it's like we know Robert Townsend as a producer or corrector or the Wans or whoever it might be is like, oh, they created this thing.
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.719
For you, it's like you created this thing almost in front of the lens.
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.559
It was like, no, if we attach Brian, it's gonna all go it's gonna all work out.
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:16.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:17.599
You know what I'm saying?
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:23.599
So it's like maybe that's like the the the flip of of how it is, but bro, hey man, you be killer.
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:24.400
Thank you, bro.
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:29.039
I wanted to know how difficult is it to get financing for independent film.
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:36.079
I've found that every time that I've gotten financing, it's because I started with my own money.
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:42.639
Um it's just something about when you tell, you know, and and then for me that's just how it is.
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.159
I'm always willing to put up my own money.
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:54.559
And so when people see that, I think it it it puts them in a different mindset to where they want to be a part of it more.
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:03.920
So when I'm talking to them about if they want to put something up, it's not dependent upon whether you do or don't, nigga.
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.400
You know, it's it's I'm doing it, right?
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:15.840
And so, and and I think they feel that like it's not if you say no, it's not ha it's happening, it would be dope if you could be a part of it.
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.280
And I think that's the difference, you know what I mean?
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:42.880
But when you sitting there cold is doable, just like I need you for this to be, it's a very hard pitch, people don't understand it, and it's muddied up because the people who came before you or who they knew, you know, were shady and fucked it off, so now you know they feel, you know, they're uncertain about it.
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:52.079
Um but for me, it was all I was always had my own funds in it, and it was gonna get done regardless that people want to step up and be a part of it.
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:53.199
What's the percent?
00:52:54.320 --> 00:53:10.719
Like how much do you, if the you have a budget in your mind and you say, hey, listen, I'm putting up this much, what percent, maybe not in totality, because you might end up adding some more in as it's growing, but in those first initial conversations, how much do you offer them?
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:12.639
Yeah, do you want to get like 10, 20, 15?
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:21.679
I think I think what's a a safe space until you get in is like the um finance side can be 40% of the pie or fifty percent of the pie.
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:37.679
You guys are gonna, you know, and so if somebody put if if the budget is a hundred dollars, you know, and you know, they put in ten dollars, then they own what is that, five percent of fifty percent, and so on.
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.519
But I'm saying, how much do you when you are saying I come in with my own money?
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:42.639
You're coming in with fifty dollars.
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.480
I usually come in, you know, knowing that I could do the whole thing myself.
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:47.360
Got it, gotta gotta.
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.480
You know what I'm saying?
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.239
Um or at least knowing that I can get to post.
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:53.519
You feel me?
00:53:53.840 --> 00:54:00.639
If somebody was trying to make because I'm I'm actually about to embark on this for the first time, like independent, like making my own film.
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:02.880
So that's why I'm like really interested in this.
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.840
How much money do you think someone would need to make a film right now?
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:13.840
Like a quality, good sound, visually it looks good, you know, to make an individual.
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:22.079
For me, it's harder because people assume that I have all this money, so they're less willing to, you know, now it's like, you know, we don't have a budget.
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.000
You got something, right?
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:25.920
You got something.
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:28.800
We got something, huh?
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:29.840
You know.
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:37.039
So um, but you never don't spend over a hundred thousand.
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:37.360
Okay.
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.480
Because I'm certain, you know, with all the whatever, you can get that back.
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:43.840
Worst case scenario.
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:44.400
Right.
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.400
So don't spend over a hundred.
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:57.679
And if you can get it done with friends, family, favors, all the shit happened in this one house, and it's my cousin's house.
00:54:57.920 --> 00:54:58.559
That's what I'm working on.
00:54:58.800 --> 00:54:59.119
You know what I mean?
00:54:59.280 --> 00:54:59.679
You feel me?
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.960
Then, you know, don't go over fifty, and then you're gonna win.
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:06.000
You know what I mean?
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:11.920
So I I would say try to figure out you know, you might have a concept that this is a concept, let's be dope.
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:13.360
Okay, well, it's your first one.
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.760
Let's figure out a more simple concept.
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:29.760
Save that one, find something that we know that we could do for 50 grand, friends, family, and we all gonna come and you got the cast and you know, and everybody, and knock it out for that.
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:38.800
The quality, call me, let me, I let you know what you're supposed to be doing, what you ain't supposed to be doing, so on and so forth, and make a solid film.
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:46.320
Go out, flip that, you know, you're gonna learn a whole bunch of shit, and uh you be on your way.
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:55.679
But I would just say if it's your first one, you know, see how yeah, because with technology and shit like that, yeah, it's it's that's realistic.
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:55.920
Right.
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:57.280
That sounds that sounds real.
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:03.119
That's why when I think of, as you're going through, only thing that's flashing is I'm thinking about Friday.
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.280
I'm like, yeah, they was one house kind of on the block.
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:06.159
They didn't go nowhere.
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:07.199
Small cast, boom, boom.
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.639
Yeah, one like liquor store.
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:09.519
They didn't go nowhere.
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:10.400
Yeah, they didn't go nowhere.
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:12.880
That's it.
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:13.360
Yeah.
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:14.239
You know what I mean?
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.320
So the whole thing on on the on one street.
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:21.920
No, that's what I've been the idea that I came up with because I had another film, but it was gonna cost five million to make.
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:23.360
Yeah, that was a different one first.
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:27.119
And so I was like, nah, let me go find something, one a house, one location.
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:34.000
So I came up with that idea, and so now I've been watching a bunch of films with like one location, you know what I'm saying?
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:38.239
Shit that happened in one day, like house party and just shit like that.
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:39.519
And yeah, man.
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:40.960
When you Oh, hold on, hold on.
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.199
This is my my final question on this, though.
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.960
When you say a hundred thousand, that's it, you said that's including post or that's not including.
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:47.519
Including post.
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:48.719
Including including post, okay.
00:56:49.039 --> 00:57:01.039
Even with the 50, try to do it and you know, post me and you have to, you know, find the the homie who's dope, editing to y'all can sit in there and bang it out and say, hey, I'm gonna give you something when we make something.
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:01.920
You know what I mean?
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:03.519
And he can add it on his time.
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:04.159
You know what I mean?
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:04.639
You can't even.
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:05.920
You got four weeks.
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:07.840
No money, nigga.
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:09.440
Give me some more time.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:11.360
But they say you you only get two of the three.
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:14.400
Either it's gonna be cheap, it's gonna be good, or it's gonna be fast.
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.159
You don't get you don't get all three.
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:16.480
Yeah.
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.000
You get you get you get two of the three.
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:24.159
Yeah, you get two of the three if you know in a in a positive way.
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:31.840
You make a movie, you put the money up, you're in the post, you're looking at the edits, you're looking at the re-edits.
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.840
You don't like what's happening, then what?
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.079
Do you still believe in putting it out?
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.079
Do you believe in uh it like should do you hold this?
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:43.840
Does it do more harm than good?
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:45.119
You know, then what?
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.960
Well, it's never it's never gonna be perfect for 50, because you you're always gonna have to compromise.
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:57.920
Every fucking time I shoot something, and it's hard, I gotta compromise or not do something, or make, you know what I mean?
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:02.880
Like I just did the lake house, the the house I wanted versus the one I shot at.
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:03.840
You know what I mean?
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.480
It took, you know, I'm still talking about it, obviously.
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:07.199
You know what I mean?
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:13.039
And you know, the house we had is dope, but it's not what you thought up, so that's hard.
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:14.000
You know what I mean?
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:15.440
But you gotta get over that.
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:16.239
You know what I mean?
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:22.719
You you'll do the five million when when you do the five million, but until then, we gotta be executing and make a shit happen.
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.360
And if we wait in on ideal circumstances, ideal whatever, then the shit'll never get done.
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:27.920
Yeah, that's true.
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:30.960
I shot a film.
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:31.280
Okay.
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:32.800
A feature.
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:33.360
Uh-huh.
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.000
Wait, so you shot a mean like.
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:38.400
You directed it?
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:39.119
You like your thing?
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:40.400
I didn't direct it years ago.
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:41.360
No, no, no.
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:42.159
I'm in it.
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:43.280
I I paid for it.
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:43.760
Gotcha.
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.800
This is years ago, right?
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.079
Yeah, this is, yeah, you already know.
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:46.800
Because I called this.
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:47.519
He said no.
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:50.400
Good choice.
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:00.559
This is years ago.
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.480
This is years ago, but uh that's again.
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:16.719
No, but I I shot it, and then after the people involved were in such different spaces career-wise, where I was like, well, I don't even, even myself, I was like, I don't know if this helps now.
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.960
It's like, because I didn't even post wasn't even, yeah, I didn't even consider a post.
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:26.000
I had shot and went, and man, it came down to two posts at 80 hours.
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:27.519
People was like, you want me to do eight off?
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:27.920
What?
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:32.320
It was like, yeah, man, listen, man, just you know, trust me on this.
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.920
It's like, and I went through the truck and I watched it on, just say it on your iPhone.
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:41.119
Yeah, it was like, yeah, no, no, no, no, mid of the pandemic, it was like, you do you have a podcast mic?
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.519
And went and cleaned and I watched, and I watched, and I was like, I don't know how good this does.
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.199
So it was like, you're on this, you're on network right now.
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:49.360
Yeah.
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:50.559
And I'm a, you know what I'm saying?
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.000
Like, I don't want to do that to us.
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:53.920
I don't know.
00:59:54.239 --> 01:00:02.400
But it's like at some point in time, I'll drop it, but it won't, I wanted to be in the yeah, you know, it's like you got all this stuff and then wait, wait, what's this?
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:04.239
It's gonna be a ha ha drop.
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:09.840
Meaning you have to also be at a certain level when it's like, man, look at this bullshit we did back in the day.
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.519
Yeah, and this is the versus like, this is the my movie.
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:14.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:16.639
You guys, I know you've been waiting.
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.880
I don't know how to marketing that's all like I think that's what I was asking.
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:25.440
So you're saying if you shot some more stuff, you can make it better, or you just saying it's not no more.
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:29.280
I don't need that flat top no more.
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.039
But how how how how good is it from one to ten?
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:34.239
Two.
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:35.840
I haven't seen it.
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:39.039
Be honest.
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:42.719
Okay, look, I got it.
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.039
I've got five and six, five, six.
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:45.599
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:48.480
So so like so look, this is how uh assess a comedy.
01:00:48.639 --> 01:01:06.000
If if a and and if you say something is a hilarious movie, in reality, when I go through and I count out the moments, there's really only five to seven hilarious moments, unless you're talking like coming to America, those things like, or you're talking like a sploof mood to be like, don't be a menace.
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:11.199
Most of the movies that we revere, the the I mean the Friday, da da da.
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.840
It's like you go Friday after next, it's like, no, okay, cool.
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:22.880
Mike Epps uh comes in, it's the introduction of Mike, it's Pinky, it's the thing with the Latino people, it's blacks, it's just like, no, no.
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.440
That's about it's it's about it's about six or seven of them in there.
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.159
Oh no, we another time.
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.559
Another time we will we'll do this again.
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.639
So, so it's I got I got four strong.
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:37.280
Yeah.
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:41.119
Four, two of the possible first 15, 20 minutes.
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.840
Because it nowadays, if the first 15, 20 minutes ain't hitting, nobody's gonna get to the rest of that.
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:46.639
I mean, you know.
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:48.079
Okay, we don't have to keep talking about it.
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:54.480
You should just get it as tight as you think when it's tight, and then you just let some people who don't who are completely detached see it.
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:55.039
Okay.
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:56.719
And then they'll tell you.
01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.639
Brian Hooks is watching my movie.
01:01:58.800 --> 01:01:59.199
Yeah.
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:01.920
Don't you send me that book?
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:03.519
Give me homework.
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.920
See it, and I gotta drop off a DVD to you.
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:06.480
Y'all got it.
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:07.519
Oh, y'all got it?
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:08.639
Oh, absolutely.
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:09.280
Uh wait, wait.
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:10.559
Absolutely.
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:11.920
You know, you know me all the way up.
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:13.199
Uh brother got the industry.
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.360
I'm just going through my question uh independent.
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:16.400
Uh, sold plan?
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.679
Uh yeah, we say we got the talk sold planned.
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.480
Um uh that's a good one to go.
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:25.199
No, me, but I'm the king of wrapping it up.
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:26.800
Yeah, looking at the clock.
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:34.400
So um I wanted to uh just uh uh being on that set and seeing what happened after.
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:39.440
Um, because I I know I feel like you and Kevin might have had a different conversation.
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:41.599
Like, brother, trust me, this is great for you.
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:46.239
Did did you did you have any conversations post after the things that happened with that film?
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.719
Oh the uh you know, I I I didn't.
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:49.360
I didn't.
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:55.920
I think, you know, it was, you know, it was like, oh, black people shouldn't be doing that, and then the whole bootlegging thing.
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:59.760
Like, you know, niggas in the hood that shot a part two to so black.
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:01.280
Right this bootleg.
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:02.800
It was like, we gonna make a part two.
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:08.719
They had red carpet premiere in the hood for for sort of like doing a premiere in the barbershop.
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:08.960
Yeah.
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:17.199
Um, but it was, you know, I think, I think all that, that, that black noise, you know, it's either for you or it's not.
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:18.000
You know what I mean?
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.800
They had the airplanes and the naked guns and shit.
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:21.679
That's spoofs.
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:21.840
Yeah.
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:27.440
They're funny, and it's poking up as you know, poking at stereotypes and crazy shit.
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.400
That's what the tone of that film was.
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:35.519
And our black folks should have left it alone and just turned it off if it wasn't for you.
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:36.639
You know what I'm saying?
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.880
So I think all that, oh, they such and such, and black people, it just it was what it was.
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:41.679
You know what I mean?
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:43.119
It's either for you or it's not.
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:49.840
And then the whole bootlegging thing to where it was out, like for y'all to be talking, talking all that noise, y'all show bootleg the hell out of here.
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:50.159
Yeah.
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.239
So that that was crazy too.
01:03:52.320 --> 01:04:00.079
But you know, when we shot Fool's Go in Australia, you know, they knew me from or they knew me from Soul Plane.
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:00.960
You know what I mean?
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.039
People, you know, that shit was a big deal.
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.119
So it traveled and it did well.
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.400
It's just the the process got so fucked up, but everybody was on that.
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:09.280
That shit was crazy.
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:14.800
Did you know Kevin was gonna become what he became when you was doing it?
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.679
Or or did you just see him as like another comedian?
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:18.800
Absolutely not.
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.519
Yeah.
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:27.679
Kevin crazy is yeah, it's just a short nigga with bad feet.
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.880
And you know what I mean?
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:37.119
But no, but but Kevin said, You nigga, you know I'm next.
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:39.119
Yeah, you nigga knew.
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.920
That nigga knowing that's all that counted.
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:42.559
You feel me?
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.440
Kevin was like, nigga, I'm next.
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:52.320
We was over in Fool's Gall, you know, because um uh Cat Williams was supposed to be that character.
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.880
But then that nigga walked to the airport with that gun.
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:57.519
And so he couldn't get them to Australia.
01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.760
They're like, no, nigga, you can't go nowhere.
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:00.800
Just sit tight.
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.880
Um, nigga, but I'm the only short nigga.
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:05.119
No, we got another one.
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:09.199
We Kevin, Kevin got got off there and got off that plane.
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:10.000
He said, B.
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.320
I was so happy he walked to that airport.
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:20.639
I needed this.
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:34.639
Kev said B, nigga.
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:36.559
He said they hit me for the audition.
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.599
They rushing because they gotta like, yo, this thing can't come.
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:47.119
Like, cause they was fighting, like Warner Brothers attorneys was trying to work it out, and then finally the state said, okay, yes.
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.000
And then Australia's like, eh, hold on.
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:51.519
Who are y'all trying to think of?
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:52.960
And so they said CAG and go.
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:53.760
So they scrambled.
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:54.239
Wow.
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:59.840
That nigga said, Man, B, I I rented a bunny because it was big bunnies.
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:00.880
What's the character?
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.199
This nigga rented a real rabbit.
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.679
Scared as shit as the rabbit he said.
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.320
He went in and he said, nigga, either it's gonna work.
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.719
Or it's not or it's not gonna work.
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:12.320
Both choices, yeah.
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:18.719
He went in, had a whole fucking bunny nigga, and it probably almost killed getting it to the fucking audition.
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:21.119
And you know, he was on the plane, you know.
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:21.679
Wow.
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:23.039
Great story.
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:24.000
That's great, nigga.
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.119
Yeah, that's phenomenal right there.
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.679
I'm so happy when he walked in.
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:31.119
Uh this is my last one.
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:35.199
Um, what's your relationship like with stand-up, man?
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:36.880
I see you doing dates, man, you touring.
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:42.719
Man, I love I think it's the most challenging form of entertainment, hands down, that there is.
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:43.039
Yeah.
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:44.000
You know what I mean?
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:46.400
Every audience, different personality.
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.880
I'm talking from the seven to the ten o'clock.
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:49.920
You know what I mean?
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:54.639
Different personalities, and you have to adjust on the fly, man.
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:56.480
So it's just a challenge, and I'm loving it.
01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:01.039
And I've been trying to make time to get out and go out, but I've been so busy with the movies.
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:05.039
So this year I said I'm gonna press out some time to be able to do that, man.
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:08.800
So I'm out there, you know, figuring it out and making it happen.
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:09.920
And I'm loving it, dog.
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:11.519
Yeah, you got dates on the books, baby.
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:12.559
Yeah, I got some dates.
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:13.440
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:16.719
I ain't used to flying all around like that, but I'm figuring it out.
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:19.119
That'd be the one thing about standup is the travel.
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:19.280
Yeah.
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:22.000
I wish they had if we had some type of teleportation device.
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:22.880
That'd be it.
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:25.440
Do the show and come home.
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:25.599
Yeah.
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.800
We got a game on this show called Kill It or Let Live.
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:31.199
All right, I'm gonna throw out a subject.
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.960
You're gonna say, whether, you know, kill it, you're not messing with it, or let it live.
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:37.679
It's all good.
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:38.239
Okay.
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.360
All right, kill it or let live.
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.280
Responding to negative comments on social media.
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:51.840
It depends.
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.400
Cause uh, you know, it it it depends on my mood.
01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:06.159
Okay, like like somebody somebody said some some some shit yesterday that I just I let it live.
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:07.199
You know what I mean?
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:17.119
I I I let it live, and then another nigga said some shit to I immediately because he ain't thinking I was gonna went on his page, I pulled pictures.
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:18.399
Yeah, time?
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:19.760
I had time today.
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:23.119
I pulled pictures, so on and so forth.
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:24.880
I went back, I said one thing.
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.960
This nigga curled up in that corner like a motherfucking snail.
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:30.560
Like, hey man, listen.
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:32.239
I actually I'm a fan.
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:32.960
Oh, yeah.
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:33.840
Oh, they're always a fan.
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.479
Like, nigga, say what's your chance the next time?
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:38.079
So you know what I mean?
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.439
Like they, you know, so it depends on my mood, man.
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:42.000
Okay.
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.399
Kill it or let live.
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.239
You get to Nah, I already know what you're gonna answer for that one.
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:49.760
Kill it or let live.
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:57.279
You have a hundred million followers on every platform, but you gotta participate in a Diddy party.
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:58.000
Mm-hmm.
01:08:58.239 --> 01:08:58.720
Mm-hmm.
01:08:59.039 --> 01:08:59.840
Hydra million.
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:00.960
You gotta kill that?
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:02.720
Gotta kill them followers, man.
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:03.439
Kill it.
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:06.560
All right.
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:07.760
Kill it or let live.
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.840
You're known as you, you, you are the richest man to ever live.
01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:14.319
More money than you could ever have.
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:16.880
You can do anything you want to do with this money.
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:23.520
But in order to acquire this money, you have to go back in time and be a slave for three days.
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:24.560
Oh, come on now.
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:26.319
Send me to them fields.
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:29.119
I'll be a cotton picking nigga, boy.
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:30.880
What?
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:34.000
Send me to the fields, baby.
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:38.399
Two more days.
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:40.239
Two more days.
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:42.319
I can't wait to get back.
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:43.359
I gotta go to the spot.
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:44.159
Come on, man.
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:45.680
I'm clicking on my feet.
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:47.920
I'm getting thrown in the hole for a day.
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:49.520
I know I only got two more.
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:50.479
Come on, man.
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:51.920
Alright, this is the last one.
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:59.119
I'm singing spirituals, nigga.
01:09:59.199 --> 01:09:59.840
Come on now.
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:01.680
Alright, this is the last one.
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.840
Kill it or let live.
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.960
Having a threesome with your lady.
01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:07.439
Uh-huh.
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:09.359
But the third person is a guy.
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:10.399
Come on, man.
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:18.399
All right.
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.520
I didn't want to miss this, Jay, so you gotta let me get this one off.
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.960
Uh, working with legendary uh rappers, man.
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:26.960
Uh you were in a major way.
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:28.079
You got 40.
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:28.560
40.
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.920
We got uh Snoop and Snow Play, you got Eve.
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:34.800
Uh what was that like connection like, man?
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:40.399
It's like working with these uh legendary MCs um in their acting forte.
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:41.760
Yeah, it was dope, man.
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.159
It was dope because you know I'm a fan of all these things.
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:44.880
You know what I'm saying?
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.079
Like 40, that's my favorite rapper coming up from Bakersfield.
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:48.399
Yeah, yeah.
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:50.640
We in the film together, you know what I mean?
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:51.520
I'm like, oh shit.
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:52.720
Then we became good friends.
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:54.000
We like family now.
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:54.880
So that was dope.
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:56.319
Then Snoop, he a legend.
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.760
Snoop is on par with like a it's a legend.
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:00.319
You know what I mean?
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:02.319
You got Mickey Mouse, you got Snoop.
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:03.119
Like some real shit.
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:03.760
You know what I mean?
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.159
Mickey Mouse at any corner of the world.
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.199
Snoop is known in this nigga's at the Olympics.
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:09.840
Yeah.
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:11.920
He don't know half the sports they doing.
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:14.560
Yeah, like they run it.
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:16.960
They run it, cuz.
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:17.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:19.439
Like, there's legends.
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.520
So it was it's all blessings, man.
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:22.000
Yeah.
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:23.119
It's all blessings.
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:28.560
All right, so uh uh this is I got it's keep three, cut five.
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.359
These are underrated hood classics.
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.359
So I'm gonna name my, I ain't gonna tell you what they is.
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:34.000
I'm gonna name one.
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:35.279
You get to keep it or cut it.
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:35.600
Okay.
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:36.479
Or keep it or kill it.
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:37.840
Keep it or kill it, keep it, keep it to kill it.
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:38.399
Keep it or kill it.
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:39.199
Keep it or kill it.
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:40.960
Keep it or kill it.
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:42.640
But then I'm gonna just give you the next one.
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:43.760
So if it's killed, it's gone.
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:44.159
Okay.
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:44.880
All right.
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:45.600
All right.
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.319
First one, paid in full.
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:50.239
I'm gonna name eight of them.
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:51.199
You're gonna name eight.
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:52.399
You get to keep three.
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:53.760
All right, we kill it.
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:55.439
Gone, gone.
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:56.800
Class Act.
01:11:58.159 --> 01:11:58.960
Oh, okay.
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:00.399
All right, all right.
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:02.239
Fear of a black hat.
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:07.119
We only got five more.
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.560
Uh with your heart.
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.840
Yeah, I'm about to say three strikes.
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:21.119
Keep that, man.
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.199
Uh departments.
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:23.840
Who?
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:24.560
Departments.
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.000
This is a new one that Tip did.
01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:27.119
Uh T.I.
01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:28.720
didn't have a lot of.
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:29.520
Which one was that?
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.159
It's a it's a brand new uh independent film that T.I.
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did with uh all the Atlanta rappers.
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:39.920
It's technically like a it was almost like a series almost, but I think they made it into a movie.
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:40.800
Yeah.
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:42.880
Keep talking.
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:43.680
Keep going.
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:48.239
I seen it.
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:49.520
I got the hookup.
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.800
I got the hookup, it was just so legendary.
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:53.600
Keep it.
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:53.920
Keep it.
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:54.399
Okay.
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:55.279
All right, all right.
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:56.720
Tales from the hood.
01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:57.520
Keep that nigga.
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:57.840
Yeah.
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This is good now.
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:00.800
All right.
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:02.159
So we killed Peyton for the house.
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:03.199
Got your boy David in there too.
01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:03.760
So we got the kid.
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:04.800
We killed Class Act.
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:06.000
We killed Fear of a Black Cat.
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:06.880
We kept Three Strikes.
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:08.159
We killed Departments.
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:11.920
We kept, I got the hookup, and we kept Tales from the Hood.
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:13.840
And the last kill is Fat Beach.
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:14.880
That's crazy how you would do that.
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:18.800
Fat Beach was last.
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:20.880
Yeah, man.
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:23.039
My last one, man.
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:27.760
If you can uh you had this, you have this amazing career, man.
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.079
Have you have this amazing career?
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:31.359
You've produced a lot.
01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:33.199
You have been in front of the camera.
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:34.880
Uh you're now doing stand up.
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:40.399
What does it look like for you to be killing it in all facets career-wise?
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:42.399
Uh is it touring?
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:44.159
Is it uh special?
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.319
Is it uh independent fool film?
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:47.520
Is it is it industry?
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:48.399
What what does that look like?
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:52.720
I think I think it's just you know, the indiv in independent film staying solid.
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:53.520
You know what I mean?
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:55.359
For me is everything, you know what I mean?
01:13:55.439 --> 01:14:00.479
And I think I think y'all we just have to start doing shit together, you know what I mean?
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:05.760
Like these spots, like if we was all us four going out together, you know what I mean, what that look like.
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.000
Yeah.
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:06.800
You feel me?
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:09.680
You know, is it less work, more money?
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.920
Is it you know, a little less money, but less work, you know what I mean?
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.359
What is the but what is the what is the reach feel like?
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.399
What is the content we doing when we there for a whole weekend?
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:21.279
You feel me?
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:30.720
So and I think it's uh just building and doing shit together, man, which we gotta figure out, even with y'all films and stuff, you know what I'm saying?
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:32.079
Doing that shit together.
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:40.079
Yeah, and I'm here when I just making it pop, you know, making it pop, but just keeping everything moving, man.
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:45.359
But it's the ability to for it to be independent and you get to do what you want, how you want, when you want.
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:47.199
And the studio wanna play, that's great.
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:52.560
You go and you do that, it's your shit, so you can pause it, go do what they're talking about and come back, man.
01:14:52.640 --> 01:15:00.000
So you keep all the independent film, the stand-up, and you know, of course, the social contact buzzing, and that's everything, though.
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:03.039
Let people know where they can find you at.
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.680
Uh, The Brian Hooks on all socials.
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.159
The Brian Hooks, holler at me.
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:09.199
I'll holler back.
01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:09.920
Hey, man.
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.000
And you and any projects you want to?
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.039
I got well, I got um one called a second time around.
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:17.039
It's a romantic comedy that just dropped.
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.159
That's um out on uh Google.
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:22.560
You can go to my website, The Brian Hooks to see.
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:24.800
I have one called The Proposition.
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:25.760
It's super dope.
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.840
It's a drama, it's super dope.
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:32.079
So uh that'll be out later this year.
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:37.520
And then I have one that's in the can right now called the Lake House romantic comedy.
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.039
That's uh pretty pretty pretty cool and dope too.
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:42.880
Are you starring in these or you are you behind the other?
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:49.439
Yeah, starring, directing, producing all of them, and then uh about to do Adam and Eve uh part two.
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.119
They want a part two to that.
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:52.399
That was super dope.
01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:54.800
That shit went really well.
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:55.199
Yeah.
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.039
Do a part two to that, man.
01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:00.159
Keep the stand up and just, you know, stay stay pushing, man.
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:01.920
Have you have you considered horror?
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:02.880
Yeah.
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:04.319
I did 75.
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:05.439
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.640
But yeah, I'm I've been thinking I want to do one.
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:10.399
So y'all got a dope idea, man.
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:11.680
Let's let's see what's up with it.
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:12.159
Man.
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:14.800
Hey man, this has been one of my favorite episodes.
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:17.359
I'm a nerd about filmmaking stuff.
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:22.880
Uh hey, man, make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe, leave your favorite moments in the comment section.
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:24.640
We we read and we appreciate it.
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.039
And uh, yeah, man, we've been your host, Justin Holly's.
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:27.680
Money Brown.
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:28.479
BT Kings.
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.199
And this has been the one and only, Brian Hook.
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.199
Yeah, we got it, baby.
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:37.520
Let's go out to the lobby and get these hoes, Brian.
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.479
We spat each other.