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Today.
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I'm want to welcome Nicole Magic. She has a bachelor's
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degree in biology chemistry and a master's in metaphysics.
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As well as.
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Having experience as a financial advisor, she has created a
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highly effective life transforming empowerment program, the Alchemy of Transformation,
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which awakens your true potential by erasing limiting beliefs and
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showing you how to live a life you deserve without
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compromising who you are or what you love.
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Nicole, welcome. How you doing.
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I'm doing well, Chris? How are you?
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I'm excellent. It's great to have you on. We're gonna
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have a good time today. We're going to talk about
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the many metaphysical and paranormal experiences you've had along your journey,
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as well as how you're helping others to access their
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true potential as a creator, become aware of how our
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beliefs become reality, and much much more.
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But before we.
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Get into any of this is your first time on,
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let the audience know a little bit more about yourself,
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your background, and what led you down your path.
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Well. My background is in biology and chemistry and worked
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in chemistry for over sixteen years. I also have a
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master's in metaphysics. I worked in finances well when I
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left chemistry due to mercury poisoning. I've had four children
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and they're all beautiful and most two of them are
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all grown up. One is also just entering adulthood, and
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I've got one one left here. I'm a mom who
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is an Air Force mom when my kids is in
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the Air Force, and just living my life the way
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that I like it.
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Excellent. What really was it that brought you to your
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awakening and down the current path that you're on. Was
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there any specific events, anything profound that happened.
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I've seen auras, energy and spirits all my life. However,
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when I had a near death experience in two thousand
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and six. It just fast tracked and amplified everything, so
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it completely changed where I was at and the trajectory
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of where I was going.
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If possible, would you be able to tell us a
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little bit about that experience and how it led to everything.
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Yeah, absolutely, I was. I had left my job in
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chemistry for the day and I was traveling down the
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Massachusetts Turnpike. It was rush hour traffic because I got
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out of work later than I usually did. And it
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was funny because I remember all of these little details,
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so just let me know if I get too much
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in the weeds for you. But tool Stinkfist was playing
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on the radio. I cranked it up because it's rush
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hour traffic, and I just there was this static energy
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that was in the air. There was all kinds of
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weird stuff that was going on. There was like a
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car that was smoking down in a ditch and some
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people that had stopped to help the people that were
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down there. So we were only going about thirty miles
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an hour on the high It was right around the Framingham,
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Massachusetts area, and then all of a sudden, I felt
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like I was directed to look on the other side
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of the highway and I saw this woman just swaying
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from the impact, beautiful black, curly hair. I couldn't see
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her face because her hair was in her face. She
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had on this, I think, white buttoned down shirt, and
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I looked at her door and it was all smashed in.
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And I'm saying to myself, how did that even happen?
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And where is the car that did that? Because it's
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such a weird spot to be. You know, she's in
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the high speed lane on her side and the car
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is smashed in on her driver's side. So then I
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was kind of directed to look through my windshield and
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I saw a guy that had come up over the
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Jersey barrier and was going to land right on my car,
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and his face was completely contorted, screaming and panic and
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all of the things. And I just was looking at
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him and their eyes locked for a split second. Everything
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was in this super slow motion, like a frame by
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frame of slow motion, and in that instance where our
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eyes met, I saw him land on my car, his
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car topple over on top of mine, crushing the hood
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of my car down onto my neck and my neck snapping,
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and I'm dead. At that instance, my consciousness went into
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this other space where I had these conversations with my kids,
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who were really young at the time, so that these
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entire conversations I had with them was kind of like
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my big goodbye. And then when that was done, I
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ended up just turning to this energy that was present
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and saying, okay, I'm ready, and this piece, this massive
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amount of love vibration came over me, and then everything
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went black. Next thing I know, I'm high velocity through
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this tunnel. Geometry is coming at me, lights coming at me,
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and then I'm all of a sudden out on the
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other side, and I'm holding my steering wheel of my car,
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gasping for air like.
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Dude like that.
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And then in this space of my consciousness is now
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coming back too, and I'm saying to myself, oh my god,
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I almost just died, and looking ahead of me, no
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cars in front of me, Oh my god, I almost
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I should have been dead, and looking in my rear
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view and there's no cars behind me, and then saying,
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oh my god, am I could I be? Am I dead?
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And I'm looking at the other side of the highway
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and there's one loan car coming up. And then so
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I'm sitting there wondering this thing and freaking out because
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I can't even comprehend what's happening. Massachusetts Turnpike alone, no
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cars on it, I'm during rush hour traffic is insane.
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That doesn't happen. I'm wondering, am I actually dead? And
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this is like one of those weird things that you
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don't know that you're dead. And I ended up calling
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my mom. So I called my mom and she said, oh,
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my god, Nikki, I was just praying for you. Usually
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I pray for you in the morning, but I had
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this feeling that you needed prayer, so I was and
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she was going on and on and on, and I
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just said, Mom, can you just be quiet for a second.
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Can you just tell me if I'm dead? And She's like, what,
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You're not dead. You're talking to me on the phone.
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What are you talking about. I'm like, well, I don't know.
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I think it might be dead. And I was kind
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of I joke about it, saying, you know, I'm looking
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around on this highway saying, well, which side of the
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highway am I on the Highway to Heaven or the
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Highway to Hell? Right? So, and it was just craziness
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because previous to this accident, which I think really happened.
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But then I jumped dimensions. So my consciousness left that
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scene when my next snapped and got crushed or whatever,
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and I projected forward into another dimension because there's still
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stuff for me to carry, so to bring this knowledge
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of that life into the life that I ended up
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going into another aspect of myself, another version of myself
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in another dimension. That is because it is yeah, well,
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there's just so much stuff, so please, if you have
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a question, just go ahead and.
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Hour I will, but go ahead and finish everything that
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pertains to this one.
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Okay. So coming into this dimension, I carried information that
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will help me to progress, right, because in that other dimension,
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I didn't want to live anymore. I was obsessed with
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how I could die. I wanted out so bad I
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was I had. I was super depressed because I had
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undiagnosed postpartum depression that spiraled into more of a depression,
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and then I would obsess about how I could die
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any chance that I got during the day. But because
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I had at the time three small little boys at home,
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one still a baby, I would tell myself that these
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kids need me around, they need me to be there
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for them, and So my whole mantra throughout the day
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was just hold on a little bit longer, just a
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little bit longer, just a little bit longer. So I'd
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go through this hole, Oh, I could die this way,
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and then fantasize about the death or how I could
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cause my death, and then immediately after but just hold
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on a little bit longer, a little bit longer. Host
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that experience, all of that depression was dissolved, completely gone,
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a fervor for life, that love for life, and just
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I wanted to experience whatever I wanted, whatever I wanted,
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and create positive impact in the world. So it would
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just cascaded into a whole bunch of visions, tapping into
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energies and guides on the other side ets even as well,
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and also just being in this space of wanting to
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help people access their true potential, unlock their authenticity, and
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just live the life that they want to live without
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compromising who they are or what they love. So that's
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pretty much it in a nutshell, and there's just so
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much stuff that happened afterwards that.
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Well, I want to get your insights into a few things,
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especially when you said you think that you quantum leaped
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into this new consciousness or this reality. And it goes
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along the lines with the theory of multiverse, that there
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are multiple we're living multiple existences at the same time.
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And I used to give this consideration, but not as
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much as until recently. I had a very profound plant
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medicine experience, and I know it's nothing compared to a
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near death experience, but I'm able to make contact with
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my guides whenever I have these experiences. And I was
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told that I had this desire to shift to a
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better reality. And there's been a lot of work that
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I've been doing to heal trauma and various things to
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get myself to a better space through these plant medicine experiences,
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and I actually felt like I was shifting into a
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new reality. And I was told that I wouldn't be
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able to really tell the difference other than it would
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be a better reality.
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And the very next day, I.
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Just started noticing these these little things that were just
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occurring that were really propelling me forward, and these very
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profound experiences that were changing my trajectory and occurring that
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I'd never expected, and there were very good things and
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they continue to this day. But do you think that
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it's possible that this could happen to maybe all of us,
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if we perceivably die in this reality, that we could
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be transferred to another What do you think about that?
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Yes, yes, yes, and yes yes, yes yes, So I
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think that there are different levels of it. So if
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I can explain some of that. I love that you
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brought that up because I don't know if you could
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see me, but just I want to leap out of
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my skin right now because it's exactly a conversation that
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I wanted to have on a podcast with somebody who
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understands some little things there. So on that slight level
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that you're talking about right where you have the opportunity
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to make the changes you were making changes in your
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life getting through some trauma and shifting your beliefs, because
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that's what going through and releasing that trauma is is
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you're shifting your belief away from what you assigned meaning
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to that trauma before and now the growth that you
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have through the release of that stuff, So you are
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changing your mindset. And because everything, yes, thank you, Tesla,
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is energy, vibration, frequency, all of the words that we use,
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all of the feelings that we have, the emotions, all
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of the stuff that's locked in our DNA and our
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cells that are toxic to us and that are not
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toxic to us. Everything has its own vibration frequency, the energy,
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and when we amp it up and have it go higher,
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great things happen. Greater things the more positive trajectory that
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we're on. When we hold onto the negative stuff, we're
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in a different space and we can just get stuck
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and stay in this space too. When we choose to
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move forward like you did, you are choosing to move
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into a different reality because of that. So you're going
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to shift into whatever reality that that new belief system allows.
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So the more work that we do, the faster and
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more we will shift. And the fun part is this,
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when we look at the difference between that, it's yeah,
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you may not even really notice a difference. If you're
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paying attention, you're going to notice the things that you
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notice that, oh, this weird thing happened all of a sudden,
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and this now is setting me in motion down this
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path and it can kind of make you take a
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curve way off into another space that is so beneficial
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for you. When we look at the other extreme and
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like way like big jumps, those near death experiences, catapult
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us into a completely different space. Because what happens if
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we die in one dimension, so we no longer exist there,
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if our consciousness then can jump into another aspect of
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us in another dimension. We're taking memories and codes and
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information from that life to bring it into this new life.
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So all of those adversities and pains and depression and
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all the things that I experienced in that life that
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I wasn't experiencing in this other life are now merging
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into this space to help me connects with people that
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are in that space and I have. And then there's
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all this other stuff in the middle right where we
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can have larger jumps if we do more intense work,
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So you get to a bigger, you know, a higher
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I call them diving boards. So the higher diving board
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that we go on, the deeper the inner dive that
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we have. So when you dive intoto the water, you're
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diving deeper every single time. And as you get good
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at working that diving board, you then get the kahunas
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to go up to the next higher one, right, And
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so that's what happens. So the as we go into
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so let's say you're in the middle of in that
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space where it's a big enough shift that there's something
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that you can identify that is different because this is
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these are the things that would happen to me. I
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didn't have the same memories as those around me because
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I was carrying memories from a different version of me too,
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so some wiped each other out as very confusing. And
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that's where things that you don't really remember anymore and
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they're super vague and it's like it's fuzzy, but I
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can't pull it out because they're too conflicting that your
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mind can't grasp one or the other. So they kind
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of cancel each other out, and there's like this vagueness
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of yeah, I remember being there, but I really don't
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remember what happened. And then there's this sense of things
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are also out of place. There was a picture on
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the wall that was supposed to be somewhere else in
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my mind, but no, according to everybody else around me,
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that picture was placed there by me and has always
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been there. There was a missing lamp that was never
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in our possession, that kind of stuff. So you're gonna
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see these weird things. And then you have those minor shifts,
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where where did the heck this come from. I had
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bought a brand new pocketbook from like Kate Spade or whatever,
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use it a couple of times. I pretty much just
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put a few things that I need when I'm going
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somewhere and my wallet and I was going through it
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to change it over into a different purse, and all
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of a sudden, I have this weird Haitian coin in
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my pocketbook. I don't know where that came from, how
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it got there. Nobody knows where it came from or
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how it got there. It's just a weird thing that
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that's still a puzzle piece in that I'm carrying around
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with me right now. So I don't know where what
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that means. And maybe it will never even matter, because
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I feel like there are things that don't matter, but
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the big things that do matter you're going to remember,
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you know, having watched a movie or something like that.
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This just happens with me and my boyfriend where he
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had to jump. We had to jump at the same
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night and the next day. So he's telling me, well,
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this is weird because this patch was always on this
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side of my pants. I'm like, no, it wasn't. And
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I'm like, oh, I know, what's happening. So then he's saying,
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you know, we watched this movie together. We've tried to
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watch this movie three times. I'm like, I've never seen
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this movie before in my life. I've never even used
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this app on my TV. I didn't even know that
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app was there. And he's like, come on, we tried
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to what. We had all these conversations and all this stuff,
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and then he picked out something that was different in
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the end, and he's like, I said something the same,
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but then I did something different and he's like, well
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that's different, and I go what he goes. The two
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other times that we attempted to watch this movie, at
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this exact moment, you said that thing right there, just
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like you said, oh, come on, this is ridiculous or
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something like that, and I continue to watch the movie
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at that point. But in the other versions, it was
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I picked up the remote and five minutes before a
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movie was ending, I'm like, I'm not watching this, which
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I never do. This version of me would never do.
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There's I think we are constantly jumping, and the amount
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of anomalies that we might see in that has to
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do with how big of a jump that we do.
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So I have a couple of questions related to that. First,
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do you believe that there are infinite versions of ourselves
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and multiverses that we could be jumping to that are
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just slightly different from each other? And second, could this
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be happening? Well, you kind of answered already. Could this
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be happening on a collective basis, but on a much
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larger scale, like the entire planet is shifts at times?
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What do you think about that?
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Yeah, that's a great question, Thanks for asking that. I
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think personally, I think that yes, we're doing this constantly.
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And whether there's infinite versions of us or not, I'm
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not sure where if there's infinite versions, but I kind
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of feel like there are. There can be infinite versions
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of us. However, when we attain what we're supposed to attain,
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whatever that is. So I don't know. If we reach
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the level at which we gain enough consciousness that we
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transcend the three D realm where we're at here right,
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then we move on and then maybe if we are
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contracted to come back to Earth, that's where we incarnate
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a completely different body, a different life. So that's where
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the past lives in this three D realm come into play.
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Otherwise we transcend and we move into a different dimension
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because the energy is the energy. Can we merge with
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that energy? So I think that we're kind of like
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looking to for ways in which we can graduate the Earth,
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and in that individualization, get enough individuals. We're also working collectively,
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which is why you'll feel certain energy is happening in
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your life, and you'll talk to people and they're like,
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oh my god, the same thing is happening to me.
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That is your individual working on the same energy pattern
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as the collective, whatever collective that you are in. So
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there can be collectives that are in victim mode, so
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the victim triangle, so they're working on that collective, and
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then you've got other people that are working on this
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growth process and you know, eradicating the trauma and those
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things and moving into an ascended pathway and higher vibrational pathway,
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and that collective that's working. And then as the whole
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totality of everybody on Earth on this planet, what is
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happening in the collective there is whatever is going to
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take precedence is going to shift. So if we get
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to a place where enough people can get into a
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higher vibration, yes the whole planet can and will shift.
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You think that this could be related to what we
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are calling the Mandela effect. And also my awakening started
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around twenty twelve, and there are many, many, many others
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that for some reason this was a pivotal year for
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them as well. Do you think there's something related to that?
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Yeah, well the Mayans predicted that the twenty twelve shift right.
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And then we as humans have this little brain. It
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can't hold all of this information or understand it's so
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ineffable when you hop into the other side and you
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probably experience that with your with your shamanic journeying, where
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you go on the other side and you understand things
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and you come back and there's certain things that you forget,
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but there's other things that you inside know but you
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cannot explain them and with these words, with anything, because
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it's of a different dimension. So it just it can't
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exist in that sense here. So you're knowing is your knowing,
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and that's your energetic knowing, not the body, not this
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three D. So when we look at that whole thing,
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is there there are these times where enough people come
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into a certain awareness. Twenty twelve, remember these things y
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two K and twenty twelve were huge shifting times because
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why a big freaking deal was made over what Then
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people said, oh, that was nothing because people like fantasized
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and amplified that like fantastical thing that, Oh my god,
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the world's gonna end. So when people are focused on that,
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some people are saying, oh my god. So the victim
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triangle people are like, oh my god, scrambling, they're gonna
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you know, hoarding and whatever they're doing, and oh my god,
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we're all going to die, so I need to And
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then there's the other people that are like, Okay, well,
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let's focus the energy on a positive note that if
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we if this is this thing, then let's focus on
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transcending and amplifying that positive energy aspect because we want
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it to go vibrationally up. So enough people were made
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conscious at the same time to then shift a certain way,
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because now it's taking in the total collective consciousness of
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all of those people that are putting a focus on that.
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Whatever that focus is. This is exactly what happens inside
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the body with your limiting beliefs or your conflicting beliefs,
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positive and negative beliefs. Whichever one that you believe more
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is going to win out. Whichever one has the most
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energy that you put into it is going to win out.
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Subconscious is a thousand more times more conscious. The subconscious
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is one thousand times more powerful than the conscious. So
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we can try to do something all we want. But
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if our subconscious program says, nope, this is what we're doing,
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guess what we're doing that. So we want to program
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that's subconscious to be in that positive elevating higher diving
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board because it's now going to work a thousand times
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for you. Would you rather be doing the work of
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what you do or would you rather have a thousand
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of you doing that work for you? Right?
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That makes sense.
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Now, Earlier you said that during your experience you made
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contact with your guides and even extraterrestrials. Tell us a
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little bit about that. Do you know what kind of
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extraterrestrials and what their role is in connection to humanity?
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Oh, that's a big one too. So I think when
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it comes to the extraterrestrials, there are certain affinities. Right,
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So if we're we have certain connections or our guides,
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we may have had our energy was once entwined with
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a certain extraterrestrial energy or something like that I can't
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claim to be an expert at this. I can just
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feel what I feel from my own experience. I've seen reptilians,
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I've seen I've seen extraterrestrials that haven't been categorized yet.
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I've seen Arcturians and Payadians and that stuff. I've seen.
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UFOs are these are these during sleep experience? Actual experiences
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are just waking. You've you've seen these entities.
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All different types. So I remembered when I was a kid,
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I would I had a really high bed, so it
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was right where the window was. It was like a
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high twin bed, and I'd watch the stars and I
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used to call it I'd watched the stars dance, and
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it was they'd move in all these erratic formations and whatnot.
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So and I felt like I was talking to people
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that I knew, So it was like telepathically having conversations
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that was in my wake. I would also do the
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same thing, like playing out in the back. I would
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be like I'd go through these like little tests with
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my friends. You know, I was playing by myself, but
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I was playing with my friends where I was having
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to like do these tests and get certain lights to
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light up in these codes and whatever in a times fashion.
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So it was like, I don't know, some weird tests
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and I would see after my near death experience, there
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was definitely an amplification in those types of contacts because
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a lot of them were in meditation or I would
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have a spontaneous vision things like that. That's when I
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saw most of that. One was when I had I
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had a surgery that was performed just a quick in
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and out tubule ligation. After I had four kids. I
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was like, tie it up, and I went into this surgery.
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I was the only tubal ligation that day. And when
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they went to go put me out, I saw this
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mantis being that I had seen only a handful of times,
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and he was standing there and I always associated him
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as like a doctor medical and he was standing there
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and they were starting to put me out. So he's
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standing there and I was like, what are you doing here?
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And he said to me, obviously telepathically, he said, I'm
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here to protect you. And I was like, protect me
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from what? And then I was out, So I didn't
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know what he was protecting me from. But then when
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I was waking up, I was my body was still paralyzed.
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From the anesthetics, so I could only hear. I couldn't move,
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I couldn't open my eyes, I couldn't let anyone know
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that I was awake. And two nurses were behind me.
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One was walking up and the other one was on
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my other side, and the one was walking to the
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other saying, what the heck happened in there? All concerned,
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and the other one just kind of went ough, difficult lication,
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a lot of blood and like all this stuff, and
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I'm saying in my head are they talking about me?
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And then I remembered I was the only one, And
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00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:46.240
then I'm like, do tell keep commenced talking again, like,
482
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.559
tell me more right at that moment. Now it's all
483
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.119
wearing off. I'm starting to cough, I'm drawing attention to myself,
484
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.240
and then this shooting pain is going down my leg
485
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.720
and I grab at my leg. I'm like, oh, Like
486
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.279
she's like, are you in pain? I said, yeah, like
487
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.200
excruciating pain. Why is my leg in so much pain?
488
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.839
And she said, oh, it's probably the position that the
489
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.799
doctor had you in. And I'm saying, what this was
490
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:20.480
a laparoscopic surgery that doesn't need any positioning, so what
491
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.119
are you talking about? And then she just bumped me
492
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.279
with some morphine and knocked me right back out. Oh wow,
493
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.240
So I think maybe something happened where maybe something got nicked,
494
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.680
and then it was like an emergency situation that nobody
495
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.000
ever really told me about because nobody would talk about
496
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.960
it after that point. So I was protected.
497
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.240
That's crazy, and that's why I do not enjoy going
498
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.880
to the doctors. Now I want to hear about your
499
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.920
experience in the blue light room.
500
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:57.720
What is this?
501
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.119
Oh that so kind of like what I was talking about,
502
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.599
with these like little training things with the lights and
503
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.480
all this stuff. I felt like I went through this
504
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:18.359
period of these few years where during my sleep in
505
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.839
that astral realm, I felt like I was brought into
506
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.599
my so my consciousness was brought into these weird places
507
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:34.119
that were like missions and training, and it was like
508
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:39.680
I constantly had to go through the mission in some
509
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.640
kind of time setting. It was like an obstacle course
510
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.720
all the time. And one of these times, or a
511
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.920
couple of these times, it was in this like this
512
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:56.799
blue light room. It was this really weird, electric, otherworldly
513
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:04.920
blue color and the whole place was that that blue color.
514
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.920
And it was just like these missions that were and
515
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.880
information and downloads and just all this stuff. And I
516
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.800
feel like when I get downloads of things, there's a
517
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.280
lot of times where those downloads kind of like that
518
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.840
shamanic journey. You get this information, you carry it with you,
519
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.599
but then when you need it, it just unlocks and
520
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.760
you know what to do. So it felt a lot like.
521
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.320
That right now. I want to get to a little
522
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.679
bit more of your experiences before we get to what
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00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.639
you're doing in your practice. You had a shared experience
524
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.880
with a friend regarding the recent surgery.
525
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.760
Yeah, in June of twenty twenty three, I had gallbladder surgery,
526
00:34:53.079 --> 00:35:02.440
and that is there's still stuff unfolding about that. So
527
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:08.480
here's the stuff that has happened during the surgery and before.
528
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.199
So before the surgery, which this is really important too
529
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.079
for everybody that's out there when we talk about energy
530
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.360
frequency and vibration and mapping out our path and our
531
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:26.119
free will. So before my surgery, I had this really
532
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:30.639
like growing sensation that I was going to have a
533
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.400
choice to either stay out there or come back, and
534
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.840
I had to make that decision. So I just kept
535
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.599
it as well, we'll see what happens. I'm gonna be
536
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:49.119
in the space of non judgment on myself, no expectations
537
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.039
with myself or this reality and.
538
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:55.920
Go.
539
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:03.159
I also had this sensation that if I told anybody
540
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.639
that I had that choice, I'm now giving up my
541
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:11.679
one hundred percent free will to whomever I told, and
542
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:16.440
am now co creating with them about my life. Because
543
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.039
and this is that important part I was telling you,
544
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:25.480
is if I were to say that to you, Chris, Hey, Chris,
545
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.280
I'm going in for the surgery and I might not
546
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.360
come back. If you are really close to me and
547
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.800
you have a fear that I'm not going to come back,
548
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:39.480
you are going to be creating the reality of I'm
549
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:44.199
not coming back, which takes away. So depending on whose
550
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.719
subconscious is going to be stronger on it is going
551
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.880
to co create that. So if I went and I
552
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.159
told ten people, and this is what happens when people
553
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.760
are in victim triangle and they they go and they're
554
00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:01.800
looking for certain attention and it's anative attention, they're co
555
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.239
creating that and so they're amplifying that negative stuff that
556
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.239
they're experiencing that they really don't want. So if I
557
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.079
were to go and tell ten people that are close
558
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:14.679
to me, I'm not coming. I don't know if I'm
559
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:20.119
coming back. They're gonna think according to their fears, and
560
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.039
they're going to co create with me according to that.
561
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.239
So the more people I tell, the less chance I
562
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.920
have of actually coming back if I want to come back.
563
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.440
So I didn't tell anyone. I didn't act any certain
564
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.199
different way. Even when I left that morning. I hugged
565
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.679
my daughter like I would always do, and not any differently,
566
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.760
even though for a split second I was like, maybe
567
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.639
I should just hug her a little extra, and I
568
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:47.559
was like, no, I'm not doing that, not disrupting this pattern.
569
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.400
So because I don't even know what I'm choosing yet.
570
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.480
So I went into this thing. And when I got
571
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.360
wheeled into the surgical room, I was watching the clock
572
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.079
because I was being moved in backwards, and I looked
573
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.559
above the door nine forty two turning nine forty three,
574
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.079
exactly as I'm walking through the being wheeled through the door.
575
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:15.239
When they positioned me and the gurney that I was on,
576
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.719
they said that they had to prep the table and
577
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.599
the robot arms and all that and get everything just situated.
578
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.519
At that moment, I went into trance mode and I
579
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.559
was telepathically speaking to a friend of mine saying, remember
580
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.320
these words, I have to come back. So there it was,
581
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.880
I made the decision that I was coming back. I
582
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.960
have to come back. There's a lot of things that
583
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.719
I still have left to do in this world, so
584
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:48.760
I have to come back. And then I was being
585
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.679
moved over to the table and prepped for the surgery,
586
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.679
and I went under. At that moment that I went under,
587
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:02.599
what I remembered next in that state was it was
588
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.280
kind of like this domino effect of I connected with
589
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.239
a whole bunch of people I know energy and it
590
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.920
was just like it was like I visited them really quickly,
591
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.480
and then I was in this light burst of energy,
592
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.599
huge downloads coming. I was seeing pictures of things, getting information,
593
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.519
and I was trying to hold on to whatever I could,
594
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.280
But it was just like that whole thing so much.
595
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.159
It was like if I took a picture book and
596
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.519
just fanned it in front of you, you'd get glimpses
597
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:38.920
of pieces of pictures, but not the whole entirety. But
598
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.159
if I said, hey, do you remember seeing that apple
599
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.280
in that woman's hand, You'd be like, oh, yeah, I
600
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:49.960
remember seeing that. You'd piece it in, So what happened.
601
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.599
There was all this information and downloads divine spirit. I
602
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.960
felt like just that love vibration again, and then I
603
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:04.599
also felt this other energy of somebody. I knew that
604
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.599
was from a past life that I was merging energies with.
605
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.639
And then I was trying to come back a little
606
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:17.000
while after that, so it was super familiar. I was
607
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.519
trying to come back after and I kept coming to
608
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.840
my body and I'd have the nurse sitting there saying
609
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.480
to me, Nicole, I need you to take a deep
610
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:30.119
breath right now. And then i'd, you know, i'd see
611
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:31.840
her and i'd hear her say that, and I'd go
612
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.719
okay in my head and I'd take this tiny, little
613
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.559
barly any breath, and then when I took that breath in,
614
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.840
I was saying to myself, oh yeah, I wasn't breathing,
615
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.960
And then as soon as I let the air out,
616
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.519
I was back out again. And I kept doing this,
617
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:51.920
and it felt like about seven times that this happened.
618
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.800
So each time I would come back and she's like, Nicole,
619
00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:00.280
I need you to take a deep breath right now,
620
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.400
and I'd do it again. I'd say the same thing
621
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:08.920
to myself and be back out there, and then when
622
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.360
I finally came back, it took for It seemed like
623
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:16.280
it took forever. The nurses like, you've been here way
624
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.079
longer than anybody else. I was supposed to be in
625
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.719
and out of there in the matter of a few hours.
626
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.440
I was in there at seven am. I didn't get
627
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.400
out of there until three three point thirty somewhere around there.
628
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.039
After that whole thing, my friend had called me and
629
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.840
she said, Nicole, I don't know what you were doing
630
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.519
at ten oh eight. It was exactly ten oh eight,
631
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.280
and I felt your presence in my car. I was driving,
632
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.840
and I felt like you were having a difficult time
633
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.440
figuring out if you wanted to stay or come back.
634
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:56.400
And all I said to you was you have to
635
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.719
come back. You have a lot of unfinished business, so
636
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.960
get your ass back there. And then she said, I
637
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:09.199
felt your presence go the other people that I felt
638
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:15.159
in that domino effect. Later on, there were about seven
639
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.639
people that all told me afterwards, Yeah, before you went
640
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:23.719
in there, I didn't know if you were coming back
641
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.880
or not. I've had this really weird feeling that you know,
642
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.000
you may or may not come back. So had I
643
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.679
told those people that those were all the people that
644
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:39.159
I would have said something to beforehand. And then the
645
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.840
biggest part of this is I did connect with a
646
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:48.440
past life energy. And at the same time that I
647
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.320
was under my surgery and trying to come in and out,
648
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:57.599
in and out, in and out, my current boyfriend had
649
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:03.159
like a heart attack and he was dying, and he
650
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.199
was like, when we figured it out, it was all
651
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:15.159
the timing is exact, and all the mean milestone timing
652
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.760
coincides with what he was going through, and he was saying,
653
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.039
you're the one that brought me back. Somebody brought me back,
654
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.480
and it was you, Because in that whole light burst,
655
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.840
there was this other part that I kept saying, and
656
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.960
I couldn't make sense of it for a while until
657
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.599
that moment that we figured this thing out where I
658
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.559
kept saying I came back for you. I came back
659
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.000
for you. I came back for you, like you gotta
660
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.880
go back. I came back for you, you gotta go back.
661
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.719
It was so weird, that's incredible.
662
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.599
Do you think we should generally be careful of who
663
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.159
and what we share anything with if this could have
664
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.519
such an energetic effect on our reality, especially if we're
665
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.400
going through something life threatening, right.
666
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:08.079
Yeah, which is why like you become like the five
667
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.280
people you hang around with the most, right, you become
668
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:17.400
whatever your energy pattern is. And it's also I mean
669
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.400
this if you think about it, because this made me
670
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:24.960
really think about things according to the energy vibration and
671
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.960
frequency of our words, our thoughts, our emotions, all of
672
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.079
the things, and who we're hanging around with and their words,
673
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.599
their thoughts, their things. Because if you're going to hang
674
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.480
around with somebody who really doesn't care about your well being,
675
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:44.119
and you give a piece of information about yourself and
676
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.239
you know you're saying it to them, let's say they're
677
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:51.800
gossipy or whatever, and you tell them something that's a
678
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.519
personal piece of information and they're out there spreading it
679
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.440
around like you're this bad person because you feel this
680
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:02.840
way about whatever it is. Who cares. They're propagating negative
681
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:08.679
energy towards you. So now you're combating all of that energy.
682
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.000
You're compounding the negative energy that's working against you because
683
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:18.320
it's projected onto you, which keeps you locked. So it's
684
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.480
like you've got to do the extra work to release it.
685
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.840
But if we are hanging around with or if we're
686
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:32.280
confiding in and consulting with people that can raise your vibration,
687
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.599
can hold a nice safe space for you to be authentically,
688
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.599
you to be real and raw and just work some
689
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.239
things out. Then that is going to work in your
690
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:49.719
favor and help you transcend faster, transform and transmute negative
691
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:54.400
energy into positive energy much faster. So yes, I believe
692
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.559
that it is important, and not to a point where
693
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.480
you become parent that I can't tell anyone anything because
694
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.880
that's not true either. That's a fear and that's going
695
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:10.280
to propagate negativity. So it's yes, you can share and
696
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:15.360
be authentic. It's the way that you're presenting it within
697
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.039
your own self that propagates that. So if you're sharing
698
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:23.039
with somebody that is known to be victim mode, why
699
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.280
are you doing that? What is it that you need
700
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.840
to release to stop your behavior in giving your power
701
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.719
away to somebody like that?
702
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.079
That makes sense. So on that note, tell us a
703
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.119
little bit about your practice and how you are helping
704
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.480
people to achieve their full potential.
705
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.320
I help people move from that resistance into that resilience,
706
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.440
and I do that by helping them identify what their
707
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.159
blind spots are, help them define what they truly want
708
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.679
and align it with their sole purpose, their values, their integrity,
709
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:03.360
and the limiting beliefs that holds them in that bondage
710
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:09.639
and allow them to reprogram the beliefs to supportive, successful
711
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.760
ones that will help them catapults where they want to go.
712
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:18.599
Right now, you use alchemy in your practices. Tell us
713
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.360
a little bit about how that's integrated.
714
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.480
Yeah, So when we're looking at alchemy, we're looking at
715
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.559
the inner alchemy of aligning the body, mind, soul. So
716
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.719
your physical body, your spiritual body, your mental and emotional bodies.
717
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.480
So bringing all that stuff into alignment to then shift
718
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.920
into that space so that you can do that, And
719
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:47.519
there's the alchemy. The alchemizing process is about this internal
720
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.519
stuff to release so you become more aware. So you
721
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create more conscious awareness within yourself that allows you to
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see the things that need to be changed. It allows
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you to choose how much you want to change who
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you want to become, and then implement the things that
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will get you there. In that process, there is that
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there's certain deaths that happen, And by deaths, I mean
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you know there are certain ego that gets sluffed off,
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limiting beliefs that gets sleffed off. The traumas that you
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release and those types of things. It brings you into
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a new version of yourself that allows for you to
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re define your identity. So there's that existential crisis that
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can happen. So depending on what level that you go
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through depends on you know, how profound that little crisis
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might be. So it really helps because that's usually the
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spot where everybody gives up and says, oh my god,
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this isn't working. But really that's the sweet spot that
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is your transition into the blissful state and that spiritual enlightenment.
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Right now, talk a little bit about how you were
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using cognitive behavioral therapy and NLP in your practice.
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Okay, I do things from multiple angles in order to
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help people move as quickly as possible with as much
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ease as possible, and because it doesn't feel like it's
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so much work when you're tackling it from different angles.
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The CBT cognitive behavioral therapy stuff, those are more coping
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mechanisms that as we're working on limiting beliefs in the
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subconscious space, you are able to consciously access coping mechanisms
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that can help you in various situations that normally trigger
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you while we're still working on working those things out.
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The NLP helps us, also from a conscious point, work
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with the uncon subconscious to release traumas at rapid rates
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that you don't have to live through every single thing,
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moving into ways in which you can create new behavioral patterns.
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So if we're working at releasing subconscious beliefs and restructuring
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the conscious behaviors, that catapults you so much quicker and
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makes everything easy. So it just feels like I take
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a step and the floor rises to meet me. So
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everything becomes in a flow, and the more flow that
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you create in that regards the faster you're going to
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manifest what you want. I was an analytical chemist. I
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was all about results, data and getting the thing done.
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So that's kind of how I operate in.
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This awesome Now, for the audience that may not be familiar,
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could you tell us a little bit more about what
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NLP is and how you're utilizing it.
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Yes, neuralinguistic programming is a form of it's a science
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that you're working with the subconscious. It's not hypnosis. A
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lot of people go through NLP and hypnosis training, so
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those always go hand in hand, and hypnosis isn't about,
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you know, putting you out into a trance and you know,
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making you do stupid things. NLP is about accessing your
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subconscious and changing timelines, changing the things. So we're actually
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creating those little jumps for you by erasing those traumatic experiences,
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keeping the lessons that you learned along the way, but
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erasing the trauma that's stuck and creating toxins.
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Now, we talked a little bit earlier about how our
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beliefs create our reality. You also help people make fear
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their friend. Talk a little bit about that.
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Yeah, so fear is if we really look at everything
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again as energy frequency vibration, fear is just an alert system.
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It's an energetic alarm that says, hey, we're not in
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a comfort zone here, you know, danger, Will Robinson, We're
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just in this space where caution is necessary. And if
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we look at it just as data as a scientist
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looks at data, and if we break it down, fear
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is just telling us something. So a fear can can
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be irrational, it can be an illusion, or it can
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be a real caution that needs to be attended to.
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Most of the time, we're just making this stuff up
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because we assigned meaning to it, and we don't want
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to be hurt emotionally physically. You know, if you get
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bitten by a dog, people develop fear of all dogs
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because I got bit by one once, Like you're gonna
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like every dog is out to bite you. That's an
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irrational fear. So if that fear could be taken away,
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the same thing goes with anything that you've experienced in
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life that you've assigned a negative meaning that you're not
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going to move forward in what you want in your
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success because of this old fear. But if we look
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at it as making fear your friend, as the data
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that it is, all it is is indicating something be acknowledged,
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and if we acknowledge it, analyze it and decide does
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it need to be released or is it something that
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is generating an actual caution. So we can go through
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life not feeling fear because we have an autonomic nervous
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system that tells us when our bodies are in danger physically.
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The fear comes into play emotionally and mentally based on
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what we believe. So we need to just take a
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look at it and see is this something that just
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needs to be acknowledged and released or is this real
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and most of the time acknowledged and release.
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Now I want to talk a little bit about manifestation.
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And oftentimes when you get into this, there's plenty of
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people who check out, think it's too woo woo. I
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think you're talking about some form of crazy magic. But
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I've experienced this in my own life many, so many times,
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and it still is a reoccurring phenomenon that things that
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if I'm on the right path, if I am putting
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my heart and creativity and energy into the things that
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I feel are my sole mission and purpose, that I'm
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I continually propelled to do better, and good things happen
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in my life and I can manifest certain outcomes as
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strange as it sounds. Tell us a little bit about
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how you can, as you put it, demystify manifestation.
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So there are a lot of components that cause a manifestation,
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and when these components come together, I liken it to
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baking a cake, because we can have all the components.
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You can have the eggs, the flour, the sugar, the butter, whatever,
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and you can throw all that stuff in a bowl,
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mash those eggs around with the shells, and you know,
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not measure out stuff and you're not going to have
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a cake, and you really want that cake, so you
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need to know how to take the actions to implement
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what you need to have that cake. Right. So when
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we look at it, it's more along the line of
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there's a creative element to it, so we've got to
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have our creative juices flowing. We also need to visualize
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and feel there's an experiential component to it, so we've
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got to step into that. So if you want to,
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like an actor steps into a role, they put the
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clothes on, they put the accent on, they talk like
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this person, they walk like this person, and it's not
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them now, but it is them when they step into that.
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So what we're doing is kind of like assuming the
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role and holding that space. Because what are we doing
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We're holding a new vibration. So we're in training this
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physical body to that vibration so that it shifts into
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that vibration. So if we do that properly, we're going
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to create that in our lives and it will seem
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like magic. It's very very easy. There are times when
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I when I say, well, I want to be on
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this podcast, and then all of a sudden, I'm getting
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a call be on this pod. I'm like, all right, yay, right.
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And when when people access their own creativity, it's creating
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the balance between you know, all the doing that we
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do and the busyness and accessing the creative elements. So
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we need that male and female energy flowing in harmony.
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We want to experience because we have to bring that
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into the now, the physical. So bringing that, we also
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have to stop our minds from being so busy. We
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have to allow for thought to come through without thinking.
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That's a tough one for people, and have that focus
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and not concentration like I'm trying to like, there's a trip.
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There's there's this element that is we're focusing but not focusing.
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We're thinking, but we're not thinking. We're we're allowing thought
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to pass through, but we're not actually thinking about them.
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So there's this space of full presencing and experiencing. When
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we bring it together in just the right proportions, you
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have your cake and then you can eat it.
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That's a great way to put it. Now to close
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out on for the last few minutes we have how
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do you perceive this awakening that's occurring globally? Is it
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00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:33.719
just wishful thinking or a perception on our part those
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that have become an aware that are having this evolution
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of consciousness. Is it just wishful thinking that we're seeing
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all our friends do it because they're in proximity of us,
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or is it a larger phenomena that's really happening on
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a global basis. What do you think?
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I think it's in order for it to happen on
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the global basis, it definitely has to happen on the
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individual basis, which is why we're seeing confirmation with the
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people that we have around us one way or another.
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So you're either awakening or you're not. So you're going
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to see and live in those worlds, and they could
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be separate. You can have overlapping circles like family for instance.
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You may see some people in your family just being
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in that space and other people evolving. So as all
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the individuals come together, the collective will will move. So
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I do think that this is something that is happening.
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Some people will will liken it to their different cultural
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and religious beliefs, like the rapture or things like that.
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And I think as well, when we're looking on that
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global scale, things are going to get weird. They're going
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to be awkward. They're gonna you're not gonna be able
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to explain some things. And remember, people are going to
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go through that existential crisis of the inner alchemy, and
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01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.599
they're not going to understand why they can't comprehend what's happening,
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like hey, where did this lamp come from? Or why
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is the picture on the other side, or why is
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the patch of on my pants on the right side
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versus the left side? It's always on this side. No,
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01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.760
it's not. And when they're going to think that they're
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01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.639
going nuts a little bit, and it's okay, because you're
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01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.239
not going nuts. These are the things that are happening.
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We're all jumping through these dimensions to reach where we're
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collectively happening in a more harmonious vibration. So I think
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that the two sections that if everybody doesn't, if this
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flip isn't, if the switch is not flipped for everyone
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01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.719
to move forward, that there's going to be a split.
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And those who are sending will move forward and those
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who don't, I don't know what's happening with them.
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Before we close out, let the audience know how they
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01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:11.519
can find out about more about you and your services.
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And anything else you have going on great.
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My main website is just like my last name, M
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A Jik. It's magiclc dot com. And my marketplace where
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I have free resources and a bunch of different things
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that you can check out is Nicolemagic dot com. And
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if you want to schedule a call with me, check
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out Nicolemagic dot as dot M.
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E perfect Nicole. Thank you so much.
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This was great.
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I'd love to do this again in the future. And
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until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We will
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talk again tomorrow see ya. Then today I want to
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welcome back to the show Phoenix Aurelius. He is a philosopher, alchemist, spajarist, agriculturist,
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teacher and the founder of the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy,
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where he performs in depth research in a vast variety
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of subjects for the development of Aurelian medicine and alchemiculture.
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His focus since twenty fifteen has been to pioneer a
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new field of medicine for the twenty first century and beyond,
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which he calls Aurelian medicine. He also invented an entire
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movement called alchemiculture, which offers a philosophical approach to human
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existence designed for the modern world using alchemical principles. He
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is also host of the alchemiculture podcast Phoenix Welcome Back.
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How you doing.
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I'm doing great, man, Thank you so much for having
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me back.
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Thank you for coming back. I really enjoyed our last
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conversation looking forward to this one. You're working with some
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alchemical modalities that could possibly change the way we utilize medicine,
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and you bring back ancient alchemical practices that have incredible
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benefits for humanity and provide lost understandings of things like alchemy, magic, medicine,
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and the metaphysical realms that hold our existence together. So
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I can't wait to get into some of the things
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you're working on. But first, it's been a while. Remind
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the audience about yourself and what led you down your
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path here.
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Yeah, totally. So. Most people kind of know me for
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my alchemical work, and admittedly that's a huge portion of
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what I do. So basically I run the Phoenix Relis
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Research Academy and I focus on two main things there.
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One is trying to advance a field of spideric medicine,
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which was invented by Paracelsis in the fifteen thirties and
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was healing things like, yeah, epilepsy for sure, but plague
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and syphilis and leprosy and all sorts of different types
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of things. In the fifteen thirties. He was way ahead
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of his time. Unfortunately, his ideas didn't hold up to
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01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:05.039
the scientific revolution during the discovery of things like oxygen
959
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.280
and other things as other elements, and they kind of
960
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.760
just threw the baby out with the bathwater and wanted
961
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.239
to distance themselves from alchemy all together during that time.
962
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.320
And so what I've done is I picked up a
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01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.719
whole lot of his material, in fact, all of it,
964
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.519
and have translated it into English and relied on other
965
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:26.599
translations too, And I'm reconstructing this in the twenty first
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01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:30.239
century with modern chemical terms and modern technologies and other
967
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.880
things like that, and trying to bring it back because
968
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:36.159
most people don't understand that the root of our pharmaceutical
969
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:40.119
technology actually goes back to Paracelsus himself. The entire fields
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01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.159
of toxicology, the entire fields of pharmaceutical chemistry, which is
971
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.800
known as eatro chemistry, all has its roots in Paracelsus,
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01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:52.920
just one dude, and they have completely bastardized the technologies
973
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.960
that he created. Everything is supposed to be coming from
974
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.559
a single material that is being worked on, and the
975
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.199
mineral are supposed to be coming from the thing that's
976
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.079
being worked on, not you know, bastardized petrochemical wastes that
977
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:10.000
are you know, synthesized and other things in order to
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01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.519
be able to elicit an effect. It's like when we
979
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.559
use nature, we get a much better effect, and he
980
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.599
has a very pure method of doing that. So bringing
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01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:22.000
that into the light of modern day is probably one
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01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:26.320
of my greatest passions. And because my work differs so
983
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.559
much from Paracelsus work by term you know, terminology and
984
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.159
technologies that have you know, come to rise since the
985
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.159
fifteen thirties and other things, we've decided to call this
986
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:41.159
Aurelian Spageeria, again, just naming it after myself, Phoenix Aurelia.
987
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.840
So so that's one thing, and then the other thing
988
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.320
that I focus on is alchemiculture, which is a broad
989
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:54.800
and very encompassing sociological application of alchemy that applies to
990
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:59.039
our entire culture as human beings. And so we focus
991
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:04.400
on areas like you know, politics and governance and the
992
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:08.599
ideas of like rulership and what are the alchemical principles
993
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:12.159
behind that, or how can we utilize alchemical principles in
994
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:16.159
order to create more better systems or systems that are
995
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.159
more perfect than what we have at present and just
996
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:21.039
kind of lead us to the next evolution. And so
997
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:26.079
we apply this to just about every aspect of human existence.
998
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.719
And I've been researching this for at least since twenty twelve.
999
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.519
But it's also a huge passion of mine and something
1000
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.519
that I love to teach about. So that's those are
1001
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:36.400
the main things that I do.
1002
01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:39.519
I think a good place to start would be a
1003
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:45.559
little refresher on the difference between alchemy and the modern
1004
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:50.320
practice of how we produce pharmaceuticals in modern medicine.
1005
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.159
Sure. Yeah, So again, I want to address this from
1006
01:06:56.199 --> 01:07:01.480
the perspective of like Paracelsian alchemy, because revolutionized alchemy and
1007
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:07.280
pretty much all alchemical practices since that time have change.
1008
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.719
If we look at it before Paracelsus, there were entirely
1009
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.920
different theories and cosmologies extending all the way back to
1010
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.280
far ancient Egypt that we have written records of at
1011
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.800
any rate. So with that being said, yeah, alchemy's whole
1012
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.639
basis when you look at it as objectively as possible
1013
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:28.119
is that everything is in a constant state of transformation.
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01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.800
Modern science. You know, in science classes we learned that
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01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.480
energy is neither created nor destroyed, that energy is only
1016
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:39.119
changing form. And if we were to say change form,
1017
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.960
another word that we can use is transform. So if
1018
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:47.719
energy is constantly transforming and nothing stays the same, then
1019
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:50.440
and alchemy is the art and science of transformation, then
1020
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:54.159
kind of understanding alchemy gives us an understanding to everything
1021
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.440
and how it's working, where it's at now, where it
1022
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.599
was coming from, and where it's going. When we apply
1023
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.679
this to medicine, we have to take a look at
1024
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.960
the evolution of the natural material or materials that we're
1025
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.400
trying to elicit a medicinal response from. And the idea
1026
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:16.399
within the alchemical paradigm since the time of Pythagoras has
1027
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.279
essentially been, at least in the West, has been that
1028
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.319
we as human beings are kind of the pinnacle of
1029
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:30.439
creation here on earth because everything else as you go
1030
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:34.760
down the chain is more pure in its essence, but
1031
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.439
it's less complex in its constitution. So like if we
1032
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:41.600
take a look at a metal, metals are literally only
1033
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.119
just one style of atom, and there's usually a couple
1034
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.039
of different atoms. You know, they're not usually just monoatomic.
1035
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:52.119
They're like diatomic, triatomic, or multi atomic, we can say.
1036
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:57.359
And when you take a look at their crystalline patterns,
1037
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:01.479
they have very specific crystalline patterns to that metal based
1038
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:05.800
on the way that the metal forms. But at its basis,
1039
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.880
it's just one atom. It's just one type of intelligence,
1040
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:12.720
one elemental form of intelligence, and so they're very very pure,
1041
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:17.079
but they're not very complex. Eventually, metals get acted upon
1042
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.319
by say, you know, oxygen, and they turn into oxides,
1043
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.720
or they get acted upon by carbon and they turn
1044
01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:27.439
into carbonates or nitrogen get you know, turned into nitrates
1045
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:29.279
or nitrites, and so on and so forth. In those
1046
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:33.880
form minerals. Minerals now have two of these atomic forms
1047
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.880
in them, and so they're still very pure, but they're
1048
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.479
less pure than metals. And then when you go into
1049
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.800
the vegetable kingdom, and then the animal kingdom, and then
1050
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.520
eventually into the human kingdom, we continue to see that
1051
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:49.520
we are less and less pure the more evolved the
1052
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:53.399
life form is, but it's far more complex, with human
1053
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:58.199
beings being the most complex. But because we're at that complexity,
1054
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.520
that vast complexity. We are composed of all of nature,
1055
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:04.439
and we contain all of nature within us. We need
1056
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.479
with the exception of maybe mercury, like we need lead,
1057
01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:12.079
we need arsenic, We need all of these substances inside
1058
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.920
of us in addition to you know, magnesium and calcium
1059
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:19.119
and huge supplies, and you know chloride and sodium and
1060
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:22.840
all of these other different types of elements and minerals.
1061
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.319
And we eat the plants, and we eat the animals,
1062
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.560
and we eat you know, all of the other things
1063
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.199
in nature. They are a part of us. Their intelligence
1064
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:34.199
is contained within us. And the idea really behind alchemical
1065
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:38.880
healing is that each of those things in nature has
1066
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.079
a certain elemental balance to them, a certain type of
1067
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:45.920
composition of fire, air, water, and earth. Is the way
1068
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:50.079
it was conceived of before the time of Paracelsus. After Paracelsus,
1069
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.720
he said that everything has a balance of sulfur, mercury,
1070
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:56.520
and salt, or soul, spirit and body, and that we
1071
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.560
can draw upon all of these other things from nature
1072
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:03.279
that we're posed of and be able to purify through
1073
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.159
the alchemical arts, their soul, their spirit, and their body,
1074
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:10.800
or these four elemental forms, depending on you know, which
1075
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.439
branch of alchemy and that you practice and what type
1076
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.359
of philosophies you want to use, but that we are
1077
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:21.119
able to call upon these things and use the alchemical
1078
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:23.159
arts to purify them in order to bring the body
1079
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:26.760
back into balance. Now this stands at a vast opposition
1080
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.399
to the pharmaceutical route, which is to say that the
1081
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.159
body is just biomechanical. It's a very Newtonian standpoint, and
1082
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:38.720
it's like cause and effect. And if you have this thing,
1083
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:42.680
then this thing has the chemicals that you might be lacking,
1084
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.760
or can trick the body into thinking that it has
1085
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:50.119
these things, et cetera. And you begin to just create
1086
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:56.319
substances to try and create a biomechanical change in the organism.
1087
01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.840
There's no spirit involved, there's no soul in. In fact,
1088
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:03.920
what ends up happening a lot of times is that
1089
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:06.920
anytime that you synthesize something, the moment that something is
1090
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.800
in flux. And this is something that I have been
1091
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.319
able to see and I can demonstrate to people in
1092
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:15.279
the laboratory when something is in flux, like if we
1093
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.760
take alcohol, we apply heat that turns that thing into
1094
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:21.920
flux because the alcohol that was liquid is now able
1095
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.640
to become as buoyant as air and rise as a vapor,
1096
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.520
and in that moment that it is rising from its
1097
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.680
vapor estate or condensing back into a liquid, either of
1098
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:36.199
those points, it is highly impressionable to the thoughts, to
1099
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:41.520
the emotions, to cosmic forces, which you know people are like, oh,
1100
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:45.800
cosmic forces, but literally, I'm talking about electromagnetic signatures here
1101
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.439
that are present from the stars that are reaching us
1102
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:52.199
if we can see their light, and we're limited to
1103
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.359
the electromagnetic spectrum with our vision. Even there are all
1104
01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.560
sorts of different types of forces that are at play
1105
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.920
all the time, and these forces are able to imbue
1106
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.640
themselves into things that are in a state of flux.
1107
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:09.680
And when the phontutical industry hires people who are they
1108
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:12.319
don't care if the technician is having a day or
1109
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.760
doing this or what. They're just forcing chemical flux to
1110
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.239
happen and changing and synthesizing substances. And when you do that,
1111
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:27.880
those emotions, those thoughts, those frequencies, those entities quite literally
1112
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:29.960
are able to make their way in there. And so
1113
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:35.079
we see the highest instance actually of possession from people
1114
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:39.079
who are taking pharmaceutical medications, largely because of the environment
1115
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.119
that they're created in and the lack of awareness of
1116
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:46.279
these spiritual and soul based types of frequencies and how
1117
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:50.319
they interact with matter. So alchemy is a very multi
1118
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:55.560
dimensional and holistic way of approaching health and wellness, utilizing
1119
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:57.720
the soul, the spirit, and the body in these different
1120
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:03.159
forms of consciousness of all materials nature. Whereas when we're
1121
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.000
just doing pharmaceuticals, we're just trying to do elicit a
1122
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:11.279
biomechanical approach, and it's oftentimes bastardized missing from my perspective
1123
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.479
two thirds of the important equation of our entire humanity
1124
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:16.079
and reality.
1125
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.920
Now, you said something very intriguing that I want to
1126
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:24.279
dive deeper into is that things that we're working with,
1127
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.479
whether it's scientific or medical or al chemical, things that
1128
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.880
we're creating ourselves, our state of mind, our state of
1129
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:37.840
emotion is extremely important to be a good one whenever
1130
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:41.319
we're working with this, because we can release some of
1131
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.479
these energies or like you say, entities into the product
1132
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.039
that we are trying to create.
1133
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:46.600
Is that right?
1134
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:47.720
Yeah?
1135
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:52.560
Absolutely, Yeah, that's you know, I think that if there's
1136
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:55.720
just like one really important thing that I could impart
1137
01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:00.640
onto people, it's that thing, like you know, and all
1138
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:02.920
of us actually have experience with this, we just don't
1139
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.199
like tie it into everything else. We're just not putting
1140
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:08.600
two and two together. Like when you were sick, Mom
1141
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:11.600
may have made you some chicken soup, and when she
1142
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.880
did that, she wasn't just like completely stressed and pissed
1143
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:20.159
and whatever else. She's thinking about your wellness and trying
1144
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:22.840
to get you. It's like it's a sacrifice of love
1145
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.720
that is going into that chicken soup. Now, whether the
1146
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.119
chicken itself was sourced really well or can cause cellular
1147
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:35.319
inflammation or whatever else takes background, it's that's not the
1148
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.840
precedent here, because it's the energy that went into the
1149
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:43.600
thing that is actually healing us on some degree, regardless
1150
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.399
of the physical materials that actually go into it. Because
1151
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:49.399
again we're multi dimensional beings. You know, we have a
1152
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:52.560
spiritual body, We have this causal body, We have an
1153
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:54.920
astral body that is kind of composed of the mental
1154
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.239
and the emotional, and then we have an etheric body,
1155
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:02.840
which is purely electromagnetic inner face. It's a piezoelectric interface
1156
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.439
that exists throughout our entire fascia inside of our network,
1157
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.960
our physiological network. And then we have a physical body
1158
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.479
that is just you know, atoms and molecules and tissues
1159
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:15.239
and cells and so on and so you know, organs
1160
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.000
and so on and so forth. And physical stuff affects
1161
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:24.199
the physical body. Emotional stuff affects the emotional portion of
1162
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.520
our astral body, and the thoughts affect the astral the
1163
01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.840
mental part of our astral body. The geometries, the crystallizations,
1164
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:34.600
the coherence, the cause and effect, those affect the causal
1165
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.880
plane and the sense of oneness and our connection back
1166
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.880
to the source of all creation. However we want to
1167
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:43.920
conceive of that. There's no right or wrong way. There's
1168
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.560
myriad ways of looking and philosophizing about that. But our
1169
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:52.720
connection to that is what ties us back into spiritual
1170
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:55.720
well being. And so when Mom is making these things,
1171
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.760
she has the emotional resonance of God, I'd hate my
1172
01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:02.000
baby to be sick, you know, and the mental concept
1173
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.720
of I need my baby to be well, and the physical,
1174
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.880
you know, healing stuff that goes in it. You know,
1175
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.800
you all of your carrots that have carotenoids and beta
1176
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.640
carotene and stuff like that, and you know celery that
1177
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:21.039
has these things that reduce cellular inflammation, the bone broth
1178
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:25.479
that is from boiling the whole chicken down, if you know,
1179
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:27.960
if she wasn't just making it with chicken breast, maybe
1180
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.560
even the homemade noodles and the love that goes into
1181
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:33.199
that and all these other things. So it's it's approaching
1182
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:37.159
us on this multi dimensional level. And so cooking and
1183
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:40.319
you know, kitchen witchery is oftentimes the way that I
1184
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.279
discuss and teach about that from a kind of a
1185
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:47.199
more entertaining view. These days, those types of things are
1186
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:50.399
really critical because we have the ability to imbue things
1187
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:53.479
during the state of that boil, that flux again that
1188
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.479
that material is going through. Same thing with making infusions
1189
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.800
and teas and whatever else. But when we engage in alchemy,
1190
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:03.119
we're not just eliciting a small change, where eliciting a
1191
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:07.520
whole progressive series of changes, so that the material that
1192
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.920
we started with is no longer even recognizable in its
1193
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energetics or its capacity, because we've extracted the soul, the spirit,
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01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:19.119
and the body of these materials and perfected each of
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01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:21.760
those and then recombined it back together. So at its
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lowest sense, it is now an exalted form of what
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01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.720
it initially was, and at its greatest potential, it is
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01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.439
entirely transformed to such a degree that you can't even
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01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.239
tell that it would have come from that initial material.
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01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:41.359
So, now going deeper into the materials that you're utilizing,
1201
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:45.199
you mentioned several times the spirit of this material, and
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01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:49.479
the more collectively that we understand about the nature reality,
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01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.720
the more we understand that everything has a level of consciousness.
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01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:57.520
Maybe you could give us some examples of that. I mean,
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01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.600
it's pretty obvious with the animal kingdom with humans that
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01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:04.800
there's consciousness there, But even with plants and minerals, is
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01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:05.199
that right?
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01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:11.520
Oh? Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So you know, for instance, you know,
1209
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.159
like you, like you mentioned, with plants and animals, we
1210
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:19.159
can really tell that there is sentience there, and we
1211
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:23.079
would refer to that form of consciousness as the sulfur
1212
01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:27.039
of the material, the soul of the material. And that
1213
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:31.600
soul really has two different grades or two different forms.
1214
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.960
There's one that's called the volatile sulfur, volatile soul, and
1215
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:37.520
in modern metaphysics this would kind of be referred to
1216
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.680
as the higher self. It is the aspect of us
1217
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.960
that perhaps exists in the subconscious and unconscious components that
1218
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.640
just gives us our talents and our interests like why
1219
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:51.840
are you interested in the occult and in metaphysics and
1220
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:55.000
things like like. You may not necessarily have a conscious
1221
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.439
answer for that, it's just an inherent talent. It's an
1222
01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:01.199
inherent interest that you have. And these are the things
1223
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:04.279
that are constantly guiding us, and they are oftentimes tied
1224
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:07.720
into the causal plane as the purpose of our existence.
1225
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.920
And we all have this higher aspect of us that
1226
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:15.800
if we're able to align our bodies and our lower sulfur,
1227
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.279
our fixed sulfur is what we call that together and
1228
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:23.079
animate all of these things with our spiritual energy, our disciplines,
1229
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:25.920
our actions on the day to day, then we will
1230
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:29.520
be able to have that effect that we were designed
1231
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:32.319
to be able to have throughout the course of our lifetime.
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01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:37.199
The fixed sulfur is more of like the color of
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01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:39.479
our skin, the tone of our voice, the color of
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01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:42.600
our hair and our eyes, the way that we dress,
1235
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.439
the way that we come across, the types of words
1236
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:48.000
that we use to express ourselves. See these that are
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01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:52.840
not necessarily physical things, but they can be physical things.
1238
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:56.840
They're tied into our physicality, but they shape how people
1239
01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:00.720
perceive us, how we perceive ourself, and how we express ourselves,
1240
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.840
and for the most part, these things are largely conscious,
1241
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:07.560
and so we have these two different aspects of our
1242
01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:13.079
soul that are constantly dynamically at play, and our emotions.
1243
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.399
The way that we express our emotions and things like that.
1244
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:17.520
All of that is kind of part of the soul
1245
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:22.279
resonance of a species. When we take a look at
1246
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.960
vegetable materials, we see that same thing, but just in
1247
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:30.079
a way that is not as relatable from the human
1248
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.920
experience as it is when we look at animals. Animals
1249
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:35.760
and humans share a lot of similarities in those ways.
1250
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.720
If we're hungry and people get in the way between
1251
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.039
us and our food, we might get angry, right, we
1252
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:43.680
might get pissed, we might attack like that's a very
1253
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.840
animalistic type of behavior that carries over into the human realm.
1254
01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:49.880
With plants, they look at things a whole lot differently,
1255
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:53.640
especially with trees. They're all about the sharing of resources
1256
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:57.239
and the benefit of the entirety of the plant kingdom
1257
01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:00.119
as a whole that are living there. And they work
1258
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.960
so symbiotically with fungi and bacteria and arcaea and these
1259
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:07.560
other different forms of microbiological life forms that they're much
1260
01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:10.560
more universally tied in. We could argue that they have
1261
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.840
a greater deal of spirit within them as a result
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01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.399
of that. And of course, as you know, they're taking
1263
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:21.079
our exhalations of carbon dioxide and carbon based things and
1264
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:24.520
they're constantly breathing that in and transforming it back into oxygen.
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01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:28.680
They're literally spiriting the entire earth for us. Trees are
1266
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.399
and so with trees especially, we can see that they
1267
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:37.319
have very particular signatures in their fixed sulfur, Like what
1268
01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:41.319
differentiates an oak tree from a hawthorn tree, Like, well,
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01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:43.119
we can look at the bark, we can look at
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the leaves and their shape, we can look at how
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01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:48.439
tall they grow, what types of fruits that they might bear,
1272
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.039
so on and so forth, and there are clearly differences there.
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01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:54.880
So they too have a fixed sulfur, and they also
1274
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.399
have a volatile sulfur, which is to say, like a
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01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:01.359
purpose for their existence, and their purpose is totally different too.
1276
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:04.680
An oak tree is meant to be the pinnacle of
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01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:10.159
the expression of healthy forests. Old and advanced forested lands
1278
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.079
will eventually be oaks. Primarily they'll be oak, they'll be maple,
1279
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they'll be hard woods. Younger forests are going to have
1280
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:21.239
much softer wood trees that are not so much of
1281
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:23.399
the pinnacle, but they're still very important, but they're like
1282
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:27.399
evergreen trees like pines and cedars and junipers and things
1283
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.079
like that. And so you can see that there is
1284
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:34.600
an evolution of the entire ecology from a forestry type
1285
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:39.000
of perspective. And as that whole land mass, that whole
1286
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:42.319
forested area kind of goes through its evolutions, eventually its
1287
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.119
crowning aspect will be the oaks. And oaks are amazing
1288
01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:49.800
because they actually attract lightning to them, and they utilize
1289
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:54.359
that lightning that strikes them, they don't get too terribly damaged.
1290
01:23:54.359 --> 01:23:56.960
They're able to put all of that electricity into the
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01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:00.359
ground in order to be able to animate the the
1292
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.159
ground and to provide nitrogen and healthy effects. And then
1293
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:07.039
from there they utilize our friends the fungi to be
1294
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:10.479
able to spread that through entire forested networks and areas
1295
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:14.399
of ecology that are surrounding as well. So you know,
1296
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.359
the plants that definitely have this. And when we take
1297
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:20.520
a look at like the difference between say even members
1298
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:23.560
of the same family like lemon balm and say spearmint,
1299
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:27.520
they taste different they might look different. They have some
1300
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:33.159
certain characteristic similarities, but they have entirely different healing properties
1301
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:36.720
to them as well, And so their personalities, their talents,
1302
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.880
their interests are different, and their interests are different based
1303
01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:43.239
on the areas that they grow in, what they want
1304
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:45.680
to grow in, and what the prime conditions for their
1305
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:50.000
growth are, and their interests. Their talents are also different
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01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.039
in like the way that they smell and how they interact.
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01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:55.479
You know, part of the reason there's all this research
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01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.560
these days, Chris about you know, if you go out
1309
01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.439
into the forest, you're less like to be depressed because
1310
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.680
the forest has all of these chemicals that are working
1311
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:06.800
on you. Well, part of that actually is the volatile
1312
01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:10.479
aromatic compounds you know, essential oils or terpenes however you
1313
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.359
want to call that, and other VOCs that are vaces
1314
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:19.479
that are evaporating constantly from the plants just by ambiental
1315
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:25.039
heat and humidity, and they are entering into the atmosphere.
1316
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:29.560
Now we are smelling those and identifying them chemically, but
1317
01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:32.880
they are to the plants. Those are their hormones and
1318
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:35.720
their pheromones, and they are using those to connect with
1319
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:39.840
other plants and other things in that network. And when
1320
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.439
we interface with those things, they actually we breathe them in,
1321
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:46.680
they get into our bloodstream, and then they actually change us.
1322
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:53.319
They change our entire psychological and physiological composition. Essential oils,
1323
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:55.600
there's a lot of research showing how they impact the
1324
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.439
limbic brain, which ties us into our memories and our traumas,
1325
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:02.600
and lots of other things like that. So the plants
1326
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:06.960
definitely have their own expressions and so to minerals. Minerals
1327
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:10.760
are even more dense than plants are, but they also
1328
01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:14.039
have their own spirits and they have their own purposes.
1329
01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:19.039
Like for instance, gold has an untarnishable capacity to it,
1330
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:20.920
like you can soak it in water for as long
1331
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:23.960
as you want, you can put it into most solvents.
1332
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.640
Even there's only a few solvents that will actually dissolve gold,
1333
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:29.119
one of those being metallic mercury, another one being called
1334
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:35.359
aqua regia. There's not many others. There is also like antimony, pentachloride,
1335
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:37.680
and a couple of others that are created that can
1336
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.600
dissolve gold, but there's not that many of them. And
1337
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:43.600
then you know silver, on the other hand, which is
1338
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.079
also a beautiful and noble metal. When we stick that
1339
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:48.680
out in the rain or expose it to oxygen, it
1340
01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:52.600
starts to tarnish and it changes. So they also have
1341
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:57.239
particular talents where they can be used and places where
1342
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:00.600
maybe they're not so great to be used. And they
1343
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.079
also have specific interests like where they grow and under
1344
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:08.880
what geological conditions they're going to grow, and whether they're
1345
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:12.039
going to make veins of something or whether they're going
1346
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:16.680
to crystallize with another type of formation. You'll oftentimes find
1347
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:20.680
lead and quartz and gold all in the same types
1348
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:23.800
of areas because they like the same types of conditions.
1349
01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.399
And you know that lead is very heavy and it
1350
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:29.800
can just be melted with a basic lighter or a
1351
01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:32.680
candle heat. You don't need a whole lot to be
1352
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:36.680
able to refine lead, whereas gold definitely requires a lot
1353
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:42.640
more skill and higher temperature capacity and better smelting technologies
1354
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:47.399
than say lead or mercury or tin might. So they
1355
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:49.680
definitely have their own talents and their own interests. We
1356
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.399
just have to be able to see and perceive that
1357
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:57.039
from the perspective of the material itself as we can
1358
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.039
observe it from our state of humanity.
1359
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I think there's a great segue into alchemiculture and what
1360
01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:06.079
this is tell us all about this.
1361
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:13.760
Yeah, So alchemic culture. It's basically taking the universal concepts
1362
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:18.079
of alchemy and being able to apply it to human civilization,
1363
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:23.479
human culture, and creating a culture of alchemists. So alchemic culture,
1364
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:29.479
and the idea was really for me. It started off agriculturally,
1365
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.199
because when we take a look at say permaculture principles,
1366
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.479
we can see that permaculture isn't just an agricultural philosophy.
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01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.359
It's something that is more of a philosophy that can
1368
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:45.880
be applied to a wide scope of human interactions where
1369
01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:48.560
we're creating closed loop systems. If I had to like
1370
01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:53.079
really summarize what permaculture is, it would be like creating
1371
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.279
closed loop systems so that cause and effect or supply
1372
01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:01.640
and demand are all innertied into the production of what
1373
01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:06.399
we're doing from just about any angle, whether that's you know,
1374
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:10.800
I need this type of material from my garden, say
1375
01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:14.640
some sort of fertilizer. Well, where do you get that fertilizer. Well,
1376
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.560
if it can grow in plants, and plants can bioaccumulate
1377
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:20.000
the material that you need, then you can grow that
1378
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:23.800
on your own land. And now that material that you
1379
01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.920
have can be grown as part of the solution to
1380
01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:30.159
what you actually need, and so you're closing the loop.
1381
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:34.760
You're stopping the necessity to import another material from another location.
1382
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:38.640
And long before permaculture was ever a phrase or a thing,
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01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:43.279
Rudolph Steiner, in his Agricultural Lessons, wrote a lot about this,
1384
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.479
and that has kind of come to be known as biodynamics.
1385
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:51.520
And so my interest in agriculture started with biodynamics, and
1386
01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:54.640
then eventually, you know, I became savvy into permaculture. And
1387
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:57.640
so all of these things were truths that I was
1388
01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:01.760
seeing play out inside of my my agricultural space. And
1389
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:04.039
that's kind of where the concept was, is, Oh, what
1390
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:09.560
if I utilize alchemy to be able to exalt the
1391
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:12.359
types of fertilizers that I'm making that I'm growing on
1392
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:15.479
my own land, Or what if I utilize alchemical principles
1393
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:19.479
to actually grow my garden and to take care of it,
1394
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:21.439
like at the end of every season, instead of just
1395
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:24.680
allowing everything to decompose, what if I selectively take the
1396
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.479
things like the great branches, for instance, that are much
1397
01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.199
more woody and take a long time to decompose, or
1398
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:34.079
you know, some of the trees that I have to
1399
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:37.319
compass like a Chinese elm, for instance, which is considered
1400
01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:40.319
an invasive thing. Those have a ton of cellulose and
1401
01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:43.479
a ton of fiber and things that don't decompose so
1402
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.920
terribly easily inside of the soil. So what if I
1403
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:50.720
take those and instead of applying the process of fermentation
1404
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:55.239
and allowing them to break down by anaerobic microbes inside
1405
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:56.680
of the soil, what if I take those in a
1406
01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:01.239
calcine those instead and get their ash and you a
1407
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:03.960
liquid ad you know, take that ash and utilize the
1408
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:08.159
alchemical process like be able to dissolve that ash inside
1409
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:10.760
of water and to purify that ash and get the
1410
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:14.119
potassium minerals that are locked up inside of there as
1411
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:19.319
pure form and homeopathically disperse that over the entire garden area.
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01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:23.439
What happens to the overall ecology as I do that?
1413
01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:26.039
And what I started to notice a season after season
1414
01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:30.720
was that my ecological conditions in that garden space were changing.
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01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.199
What I was capable of growing started to change, and
1416
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:39.199
this would create little microclimates within the garden itself, like
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01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:43.000
micro microclimates where suddenly I was able to, in the
1418
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:46.600
hot deserts of Utah be able to grow watermelons in
1419
01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:52.000
certain areas of my garden effortlessly because the conditions for
1420
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:57.359
that particular growth and expression of plant consciousness was ideally prime.
1421
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.680
I had transformed the soil from wanting to row natural
1422
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.399
sagebrush and say desert yarrow and you know all these
1423
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:07.680
other things to now being able to grow plants that
1424
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:12.319
would thrive in places, say like Georgia or Louisiana or Florida. Right,
1425
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:16.640
So it was just an evolution. That's kind of where
1426
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:20.520
the inspiration came from. And as I continued to apply
1427
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:22.640
that to other systems, I was taking a look at
1428
01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:27.600
our sociology and I remember that, you know, there were
1429
01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:31.720
a ton of revolts in Egypt back here roughly two
1430
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.439
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine type of timeframe,
1431
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:36.800
and they were starting things on fire, and there was
1432
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:39.239
all this revolt and I was like, ah, Anger, like
1433
01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:42.159
this this relates to the process of calcination. It's like
1434
01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:45.319
being angry about something to the point where you're so
1435
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:49.159
fed up that you have no other way to deal
1436
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:53.640
with the material besides instilling or creating a crisis. And
1437
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:57.720
when you create crisis, crisis ultimately leads the material to
1438
01:32:57.800 --> 01:32:59.840
some sort of change, and if you know how to
1439
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:03.279
go it properly with al chemical principles, you can guide
1440
01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:07.159
it to an exalted form of whatever you know x
1441
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:10.560
material was that caused the crisis in the first place,
1442
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:14.880
or you can transform it entirely by having it now
1443
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.439
operate on a whole new octave and leaving the technology,
1444
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.359
the ideas, the philosophies, whatever it was that instilled that
1445
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:24.239
crisis in the first place behind and operating on a
1446
01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:30.239
whole new framework of mental capacity and of philosophy around something.
1447
01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:32.239
And so I started taking a look at this and
1448
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:37.119
applying it to philosophy and to human civilization, realizing like, wow,
1449
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:40.640
this is a really really potent concept. And over time
1450
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:44.239
I kind of started creating principles of the major seven
1451
01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:50.119
areas of humanity that we can transform if we apply
1452
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:54.119
al chemical principles to it and consciously instill a crisis,
1453
01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:58.680
not the way that you know, like create the crisis
1454
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:01.159
and manufacture the solution. And that's not what I'm talking
1455
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:06.880
about that is used for deliberate control of rather uninformed masks,
1456
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:13.199
but instead on a personal level, and that resonates up
1457
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.800
to the sociological you know, it's like on your personal
1458
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:19.119
level you change things, other people are naturally going to
1459
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:22.319
observe what you have been able to change, what you've
1460
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:24.199
done for yourself, They're going to want a piece of that.
1461
01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:26.520
They'll ultimately ask you, like, what are you doing that
1462
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.840
helped you do that? You become an inspiration not because
1463
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.039
you're seeking to be one, just because what you did
1464
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:37.800
itself speaks for itself and that inspires your neighborhood or
1465
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:40.279
your family or whatever else to want to do a
1466
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:44.880
similar thing. And so this transformational effect is almost kind
1467
01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:47.720
of contagious. And if we start on personal level and
1468
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:51.039
fix these aspects of ourselves, namely our traumas that are
1469
01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:53.840
holding us back and keeping us in lower you know,
1470
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:58.119
I hate to sound too metaphysically cliche these days, but
1471
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:04.119
holding us into lower vibration states of consciousness, then it
1472
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:07.680
creates this cascade effect to our external surroundings. And once
1473
01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:11.600
our personal or our personal traumas are kind of dealt with,
1474
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:15.439
then we all have a whole lot more energy and
1475
01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:19.039
effort to think about the next step of our humanity,
1476
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:22.319
which is is my community well taken care of? And
1477
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:24.920
what is my role inside of my community? You know,
1478
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.560
we're not just struggling to get by day by day,
1479
01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:30.560
we have the energy to think about larger and more
1480
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:34.159
complex things. And once we handle that, then it's like, oh,
1481
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:36.840
my community is really well taken care of. How do
1482
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.319
I think about my district level, how do I think
1483
01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:41.840
about my you know, state level, how do I think
1484
01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:44.960
about my country level, my continent level, my you know,
1485
01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:49.399
hemispheric level, my global level, whatever. And so we're able
1486
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:53.479
to constantly move forward, But it all starts with that
1487
01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:58.000
kind of personal change. And so the aspects of our
1488
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:01.600
thinking and our rationale and our trauma that prevent those
1489
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:07.399
larger pictures from being even thought about or philosophized about,
1490
01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:10.960
or or worked with in any real and tangible way,
1491
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.119
they start on that personal level. And if we can
1492
01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:18.399
utilize alchemy to be able to transform or at least
1493
01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:22.800
exalt our potential, then we have an amazing opportunity in
1494
01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:25.319
front of us. And so that's kind of my contribution
1495
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:30.159
to how I would like to influence the world or
1496
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:32.319
change the world, or you know, my own my own
1497
01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:33.359
solution to it.
1498
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.760
I suppose, well, I would love to hear those seven
1499
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:41.520
methods that you were briefly discussing a minute ago.
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01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:46.199
Yeah, so I don't have them all right off the
1501
01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:48.279
top of my head. Let me just try and pull
1502
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:55.119
up my website and see what all we have here. Okay,
1503
01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:58.359
here they are. So the seven core aspects of humanity
1504
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:02.640
that I've drafted out. The first one and possibly the
1505
01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:06.399
most important one because it connects us into our spiritual selves.
1506
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:09.960
Again at the top of our multi dimensional kind of
1507
01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:14.399
chain of command is human cosmology and philosophy. How do
1508
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:18.439
we view and how do we philosophize about the world
1509
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.279
around us and what our role in it is? And
1510
01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:25.119
you know, so many people for ages now, especially since
1511
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:29.760
the advent of the Enlightenment period of European history, we're
1512
01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:33.319
always asking like, well, what is the purpose of humanity?
1513
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:38.279
That's something that we can't really answer because that's an
1514
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:42.079
individual thing. What is the purpose of each individual's life?
1515
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:47.560
That again cannot actively be answered, that has to be
1516
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:50.800
subjectively answered by the individual, And so the individual has
1517
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:56.199
to be able to identify what their life is, what
1518
01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:00.399
the purpose of their life really is, and that is
1519
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:05.319
I think the most core aspect of change in thinking
1520
01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:08.319
that we could possibly wrap our minds around. And if
1521
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:12.960
we are subscribing to self limiting beliefs and oftentimes you know,
1522
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:16.960
dare I say religious beliefs that have been manufactured for us,
1523
01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:22.439
Then we are limiting ourselves massively because a thought is very,
1524
01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:25.359
very malleable. We can take thoughts and ideas and they're
1525
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:29.840
malleable and they're subject to change with experience. Right, So
1526
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:34.640
you know we're not locking something in. But if I
1527
01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:36.479
take a look at a table and I say, well,
1528
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.439
that table is a turtle, and I say, I believe
1529
01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:42.279
that it's a turtle because there's four legs to it
1530
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:44.720
and it has a hard back, and turtles have four
1531
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.199
legs and they have a hard back. I can force myself,
1532
01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:51.600
based on limited evidence and experience, to believe that that
1533
01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:55.560
table is a turtle. But if I just have an
1534
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:59.520
idea about it, then I can keep exploring and I
1535
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:03.319
can keep examining because there's no sense of emotional certainty
1536
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:06.279
about what I know nothing about, which is really what
1537
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.520
a belief is a sense of emotional certainty around something
1538
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:13.680
we know very little about. So people might believe there
1539
01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:16.600
is a higher power, they might believe that there is
1540
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:20.159
an afterlife, they might believe all these things. Now, whether
1541
01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:22.920
that's true or not is not the point. The concept is,
1542
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:26.079
if you tie yourself into a belief. You're only allowed
1543
01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.439
to go so far with that belief before it shatters
1544
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:33.560
your consciousness at a certain point, you know, a certain point.
1545
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:37.159
If you break through your own beliefs, you're going to
1546
01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:40.760
have some sort of psychological split because you have placed
1547
01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:44.279
so much emotional certainty into that thing that you knew
1548
01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.920
very little about that. Once you have a different experience,
1549
01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:51.159
it has to like all of your emotions get questioned
1550
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:56.119
and it can create some psychosis. Actually, but with thoughts
1551
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:58.680
and ideas, we don't have that. The mental plane is
1552
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.760
very very flexible way that we can go up to
1553
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:03.800
that thing that we thought was a turtle and we
1554
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:06.439
can say, well, you know what, this doesn't actually eat
1555
01:40:07.039 --> 01:40:10.560
and it's not moving even slowly, so this is probably
1556
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:13.119
not a turtle. And oh, actually it's made out of
1557
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:14.920
wood or it's made out of metal, and you know,
1558
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:16.920
all these other turtles are not made out of that.
1559
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:21.279
And so we can have experiences that are constantly changing
1560
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:26.640
and shaping our ideas and our thoughts around something without
1561
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:29.720
having to place an emotional sense of certainty around it.
1562
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:33.199
And so I've often been quoted as saying that beliefs
1563
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:38.239
are really only good for the insane. Because we can
1564
01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.159
have a lot of ideas about things and we don't
1565
01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:45.119
need to know that something is that particular way, especially
1566
01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:48.439
on limited series of data. The more data that we collect,
1567
01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:52.319
the better understanding about something that we will have. And
1568
01:40:52.800 --> 01:40:55.640
we have to remember that it's all about perspective, right.
1569
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.079
We can only see things from our own perspective, from
1570
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.880
our own limited sense of self experience, and so as
1571
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:06.439
we listen to others about their data points, then we
1572
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:10.880
can gain a more comprehensive view about something. And when
1573
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:16.119
we take this into the human sociological context of our
1574
01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:20.960
philosophies and cosmologies, there have been so many beautiful philosophies
1575
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.960
and so many beautiful cosmologies that have existed and continue
1576
01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:27.079
to exist in some that are being created in this
1577
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:29.399
very moment, that if we look at all of these
1578
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:32.760
and try and find the lowest common denominators between them,
1579
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.159
then we can say it stands to reason, based on
1580
01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:39.520
our experience at present, that these are the things that
1581
01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:42.960
are the most perennial to the human experience. Let us
1582
01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:46.439
focus on these things. We might have beliefs still, if
1583
01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:50.359
we want them, that's fine, but let us put those
1584
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:53.720
in the background and focus on these core things that
1585
01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:57.880
are the most universal, the most perennial to our human experience.
1586
01:41:57.960 --> 01:42:01.880
And so that's where the apple cation of alchemy needs
1587
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:05.600
to be applied on a personal level to first get
1588
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:08.279
through our beliefs. And the beliefs that are the most
1589
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.640
hazardous are the self limiting beliefs, right, and those form
1590
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:16.359
our cosmology and our philosophy as individuals massively, and so
1591
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:18.479
if we can transform those, then that gives us an
1592
01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:21.039
idea to look at the next step is like, what
1593
01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:25.840
does my surrounding community mostly look at or believe or whatever.
1594
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:28.159
And again, we can roast those and break those down
1595
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:30.920
and transform all of those types of things, and it
1596
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:34.119
just keeps going up. So that's the first one. The
1597
01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:38.399
next one that impacts us all is law and justice, right,
1598
01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:44.000
like what is law? There's all these courses that are
1599
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:47.359
coming out that it's like, there's natural law, and natural
1600
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:50.399
law does this, and they're basing it on a lot
1601
01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:53.479
of this is like tying back to hermetics, but not
1602
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:57.880
sound hermetics. They're basing it on the Kabalion of all
1603
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.479
things that could possibly be considered hermetic God. I hate
1604
01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:06.279
the Kabalian for this because it posted itself in the
1605
01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:10.239
in the nineteenth century and early twentieth century occult revival.
1606
01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:14.399
It posted itself is like laws, you know, hermetic laws.
1607
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:17.680
There's no such thing as hermetic laws like that, Like
1608
01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:21.319
the law of gender is not an actual law. There
1609
01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:23.960
are lots of things that do not have gender. There
1610
01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:27.920
are lots of things in existence that aren't just human
1611
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:31.600
that don't abide by those laws, So those can't be laws. Laws,
1612
01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.680
objectively speaking, are things that are universal and perennial to
1613
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:40.880
all forms of creation. And so when we are taking
1614
01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:44.119
a look at human laws, we have to realize that
1615
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:47.600
if we were only to follow the laws that apply
1616
01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.640
to all of creation, that's not enough for our sociological
1617
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:55.439
or individual needs, because there needs to be some form
1618
01:43:55.520 --> 01:44:02.720
of subjective protection for people who are, say, at risk
1619
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:06.920
of being violated in one way or the other. And
1620
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:12.880
violation is part of what happens in nature, right, Like
1621
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.560
do you think the gazelle just asks to be taken
1622
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:18.560
down by the lion? Like, it's not like that. There's
1623
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:22.199
a certain thing that says if you're weak, if you're young,
1624
01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:28.239
if you are less physiologically adapt than the predator, then
1625
01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:32.279
the predator will be able to devour you. That is
1626
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:34.399
a lot. But do we demand that everybody in our
1627
01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:37.000
human society is just so strong that they can't be
1628
01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:40.520
subject to predators. I mean, that's an ideal, but is
1629
01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:43.800
that realistic. My answer for that is no, it's not.
1630
01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:47.520
So we do have to be able to subjectively create laws,
1631
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:50.039
and that's a whole purpose for the invention of laws
1632
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:52.680
at its root. Now that's not saying all of the
1633
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:56.039
adulterations that have happened with law as a result, because
1634
01:44:55.880 --> 01:45:01.479
those are adulterations of the legal system. But law is
1635
01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:07.039
very important and justice, justice as a perennial virtue to humanity,
1636
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:11.000
is very important. And justice needs to be balanced, just
1637
01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:13.520
like it is in Cabalah and the Tree of Life.
1638
01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:19.039
It's balanced between mercy on one hand and severity on
1639
01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:23.439
the other hand. And too much severity without mercy is cruelty,
1640
01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:28.000
and too much mercy without severity is weakness. And somewhere
1641
01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:31.399
between there exists the sense of justice. And this is
1642
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:35.079
where the concept of let the punishment fit the crime
1643
01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:39.960
really needs to be taken deeply into consideration. But I think,
1644
01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:42.520
you know, there was an idea and I learned this.
1645
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:44.319
I don't know how our legal system got so far
1646
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:49.319
away but I learned that very from a very young age,
1647
01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:55.680
that our rights as individuals end when we and our actions,
1648
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:59.239
our thoughts, our behaviors, et cetera, impose upon the rights
1649
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:04.000
of are individuals. And if we could get back to
1650
01:46:04.079 --> 01:46:07.239
this kind of perennial basis, then we would be able
1651
01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.000
to sort out a lot of legal things and law
1652
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:15.399
based things pretty easily and pretty well inside of our humanity.
1653
01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:20.880
I think, yeah, So yeah, anyway, that's that's the second thing.
1654
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:24.359
I think this is this is brilliant, And I'm so
1655
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:28.560
glad that you really put time and effort into constructing
1656
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:32.319
these thoughts and putting them out there, because you're right,
1657
01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:36.560
we've absolutely lost sight of how our society is supposed
1658
01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:39.039
to work on so many different levels, especially when it
1659
01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:42.000
comes to law and justice, like you were just saying,
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01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:46.520
and those concepts make too much sense, and it'd be
1661
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:50.079
it'd be ridiculous not to to take a deeper look
1662
01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:54.079
into some of these things, because it seems like that
1663
01:46:54.399 --> 01:47:00.600
our ancient ancestors probably had a great graph on how
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01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:05.399
these things worked and were able to utilize them in
1665
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:09.359
harmony with not only the way their societies were, but
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01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:14.920
with the way that they interacted with nature and everything
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01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:17.119
around them. So I love what you I love what
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01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:19.720
we're getting into, and let's let's hear the rest of them.
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01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:23.680
Okay, cool, Yeah, And you're right. And I think, especially
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01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:28.640
as it pertains to law and justice, part of what
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01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:32.800
worked for our ancient ancestors was because they didn't have
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01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:36.920
conglomerate empires like we have had since the time of
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01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:41.279
Persia and Rome and you know, ancient Greece and things
1674
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:44.199
like that. They weren't trying to rule huge land masses.
1675
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:46.479
Especially when we take a look at like Native American
1676
01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:49.640
tribes or Native People's, indigenous peoples just about anywhere in
1677
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:53.000
the world. It's on a tribal level, and so they
1678
01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:56.520
have their personological things down enough within the context of
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01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.560
their society, and their society is small enough that they
1680
01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:02.199
can realize is like everything actually works for us if
1681
01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.079
we do this, and if we violate these things, then
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01:48:05.199 --> 01:48:08.560
our society doesn't work. And when we try to impose
1683
01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:13.159
that upon such a huge land mass and millions billions
1684
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:16.800
of people, that can't work. Because we are all so
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01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:20.000
different as individuals. We have to be able to find
1686
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:23.039
what the context is for our own working and so
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01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:30.640
creating micro government, micro sectors of districts, however you want
1688
01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:35.239
to call it of humanity right now, and decentralizing is,
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01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:38.600
as far as I can tell, the only solution that
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01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.279
nature and our own humanity in our history gives us
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01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:47.159
to being able to find good solutions. We can't create
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01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:50.920
broad solutions for everybody because that just doesn't work. Okay,
1693
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:55.880
So the next point economics and currency. We say, oh,
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01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:59.319
if everybody just traded, that would be great, Like we
1695
01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:01.880
could just bar But you know, let's say that I'm
1696
01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:05.920
the cobbler and you're the farmer, and you're producing food
1697
01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:08.560
for me all year long, and I'm just producing shoes
1698
01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.560
for you two to three times a year. Is that fair?
1699
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:15.600
It's really hard to say. To me, I would say, well,
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01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:17.600
as a farmer, I'm putting in a whole lot more
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01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:22.000
work than what you're doing as a cobbler, But I
1702
01:49:22.039 --> 01:49:24.239
need to do this. So the concept of barter and
1703
01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:27.760
trade doesn't always work one hundred percent, but it's a
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01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:34.199
big part of a larger and more holistic spectrum of
1705
01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:37.800
economics that can be incorporated. But we can't just rely
1706
01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:40.079
on it. And so you know, when people try and
1707
01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:44.119
oversimplify the economic system or how currencies work, or even
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01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:50.319
why currencies exist. They fall short ninety percent of the
1709
01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.479
time in my opinion of what the perennial principles are,
1710
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:57.039
and the perennial principles are to be able to amass resources,
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01:49:57.079 --> 01:49:59.640
to be able to afford the things that you need
1712
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:04.079
for your survival, your family survival, your community survival, your
1713
01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:08.640
government survival, et cetera. However big that goes up on
1714
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.359
the evolutionary scale. We need to be able to think
1715
01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:16.640
about the perennial basis of currency because we have based
1716
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:19.680
it on gold. And you know, people can disagree with
1717
01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:22.880
me on this, and sometimes I disagree with myself on this.
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01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:25.640
I don't have a belief around it, but I find
1719
01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:29.960
it very interesting that, you know, we have these early
1720
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:36.600
Mesopotamian concepts of on Unaki or these watchers that had eventually,
1721
01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:40.960
you know, kind of enslaved humanity for the purpose of
1722
01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:43.840
mining gold so that they could create an artificial atmosphere
1723
01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:47.159
for their own planet. Now, whether that has any substantial
1724
01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:49.800
basis in truth or not is not my point. It's
1725
01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:54.159
that that story and that mythos is very important and
1726
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:57.800
it still lives very deeply inside of the subconscious of humans. Today,
1727
01:50:57.960 --> 01:51:00.640
like we talk about most of the econ that I know,
1728
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:04.720
alternative economists are like, well, let's back things up with gold.
1729
01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:07.640
Now I know what to do with gold. Gold and
1730
01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:10.760
gold making is good for making medicine that is able
1731
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:14.520
to heal the soul and get rid of our sense
1732
01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:18.239
of corruptibility within the human paradigm. We can also get
1733
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.840
rid of many different cancers with say al rum botobile,
1734
01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:25.840
which is a potable gold or drinkable gold. We can
1735
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:29.319
also make several different forms of medicine that can work
1736
01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.800
on soul, spirit, and body with gold. Aside from that,
1737
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:35.319
people don't know what to do with gold besides, you know,
1738
01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:39.840
make jewelry or you know, something else, and that ornament
1739
01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:43.640
is really just a sign of status within society and
1740
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:47.840
it's meaningless. It is so meaningless. So why would we
1741
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.800
back something up with gold? Something that is heavy, something
1742
01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:53.560
that takes up a lot of space to store, something
1743
01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:58.640
that is relatively difficult to smelt and refine. These concepts
1744
01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:00.960
just don't make sense. But there's somewhere deep inside of
1745
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:04.800
our subconscious as individuals, I would advocate that we need
1746
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:08.760
to start taking a look at our resources. Gold may
1747
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:13.079
be one of those resources for ornamental purposes or for
1748
01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:17.119
religious purposes, or you know, metaphorical purposes or whatever. But
1749
01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:19.359
it's not the main one. I think that you know
1750
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:22.239
none of us. They never said, you know, the army
1751
01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:24.680
crawls on its belly for gold. No, it's like, we
1752
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:29.199
need food. Food is the thing that makes all things tick.
1753
01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:32.840
And if we don't have sustenance, we can't continue living.
1754
01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:35.680
And so when we get right down again to the
1755
01:52:35.800 --> 01:52:39.039
very basis of our humanity, what do we need to have.
1756
01:52:39.079 --> 01:52:41.199
We need to have clean air, We need to have
1757
01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:44.680
clean water, we need to have clean soil. Those are
1758
01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:48.039
the three main forces that are absolutely necessary for the
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01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:52.520
production of food and for the production of healthy humanity.
1760
01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:54.840
Because the more toxins that we have, the more disease
1761
01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:58.359
incidents of disease that we have, the more incidents of
1762
01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:07.720
death and comorbidity, co morbidity and other different types of
1763
01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:13.880
concepts like this, they just perpetuate the less clean things are.
1764
01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:19.800
So if we can focus on currency really being, how
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01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:22.640
clean is our environment, how clean is our food, How
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01:53:22.680 --> 01:53:25.000
clean is our water, How clean is our air? The
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01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.239
things that make all things tick? How rich are we
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01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:31.399
in abundant resources, how much forested area are we able
1769
01:53:31.479 --> 01:53:34.479
to create or reforest in order to give life to
1770
01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:38.159
wild animals, and how many animals can we steward inside
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01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:41.119
of this area sustainably in order to create the best
1772
01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:44.880
biodiversity possible and ensure the food networks not just for us,
1773
01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:47.880
but for them, because all of them have an intricate
1774
01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.359
place inside of ecology that are able to balance and
1775
01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:56.640
speak to various aspects of well being. And the greater
1776
01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.640
the well being of our ecology, the greater the well
1777
01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:02.680
being of ourselves. Because we derive our food and our
1778
01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:07.399
sustenance from the ecology entirely, we are not separate from it.
1779
01:54:07.439 --> 01:54:09.359
We are one with it, and so we have to
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01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:12.520
be able to value those things. And when we talk
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01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:15.920
about value, that is when we are talking about money.
1782
01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:19.560
That's when we're talking about currency. We place value on money,
1783
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:23.319
we place value on currency. The physical value system that
1784
01:54:23.399 --> 01:54:27.680
makes things tick really is that. And so economics and
1785
01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:31.920
currency need to be intertwined. And like I said, you know,
1786
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:34.720
my thing is as far as I can get, as
1787
01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:36.680
deep as I've been able to go with this over
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01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:40.560
the past, you know, twelve or so years now, we've
1789
01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:44.640
really got to focus on our ecology and our natural
1790
01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:49.239
resources of each and every individual area and realize how
1791
01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:53.720
sustainable or unsustainable it is for human existence and for
1792
01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:58.319
other existence like animal existence or forest existence to exist
1793
01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:00.680
in that area. Like I would not add advocate going
1794
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:03.600
to the Sahara Desert and trying to reforest that area,
1795
01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:07.199
because it is a desert for a reason. But when
1796
01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:10.560
we take areas like around the Great Lakes region or
1797
01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:14.479
other things that were forested, we can actually not only
1798
01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:19.199
reforest big portions of those areas, but we can also
1799
01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:22.079
help to evolve the natural state of those forests. Kind
1800
01:55:22.079 --> 01:55:24.000
of like what I was referring to earlier is that
1801
01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:28.479
a really young forest is oftentimes pine trees and evergreens
1802
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:31.239
and things like that. And the further along that the
1803
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:34.720
evolution of that system goes, you'll begin to see more
1804
01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:36.840
hardwood trees and so on and so forth, and we
1805
01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:42.720
can begin to with our technologies, sustainable technologies, all chemical technology,
1806
01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:46.840
to begin to steward that change and moving it in
1807
01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.880
the right direction not only to fit our needs, but
1808
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:52.800
the needs of a growing and evolving ecology as well.
1809
01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:55.840
So in other words, we need to become more like
1810
01:55:55.920 --> 01:56:00.560
the plants and trees and have this shared type of
1811
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:04.720
ecosystem amongst us and share each other's resources in a
1812
01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:08.439
way that collectively benefits everyone.
1813
01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:11.640
Well, that's one option. I mean, what you're saying, if
1814
01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:14.359
I take that out of context, sounds strangely like socialism
1815
01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:18.319
or contright, and we don't want to go down that
1816
01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:21.920
road because that ignores what is important for the individual.
1817
01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:25.720
And so this is where our cosmology and our philosophy
1818
01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:27.960
needs to be taken care of first, and we need
1819
01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:32.800
to realize each step of these builds upon the last step,
1820
01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:37.119
and so these things need to stay. Like, for instance,
1821
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:39.840
if we were like the trees and sharing all of
1822
01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:42.840
our resources because we wanted to and it was in
1823
01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:47.199
our best interest to do that, that's a good system.
1824
01:56:47.680 --> 01:56:50.439
But if we were doing that because we were forced to,
1825
01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:54.399
then that violates my second principle of our law and
1826
01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:58.119
justice and those rights that I have as an individual
1827
01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:01.520
being stepped upon. Right. So we have to be able
1828
01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.159
to keep in mind what the right is but also
1829
01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:09.199
what our responsibility is. And when we can balance those things,
1830
01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:12.199
then we will naturally, I think, want to take care
1831
01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:15.840
of other folks to the best of our capacity. But again,
1832
01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:18.359
we have to kind of get out of our traumas first,
1833
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.560
because traumas keep us just in a state of self
1834
01:57:21.640 --> 01:57:25.960
preservation and self survival. Once we're able to process those
1835
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.319
things in real time, they our humanity opens up and
1836
01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:32.319
we become a lot more generous and a lot more
1837
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:34.960
giving because we're not just focusing on ourselves. And you
1838
01:57:34.960 --> 01:57:37.239
can see, like when people deal with their traumas, their
1839
01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:39.520
first thing that they want to do is help other
1840
01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:44.119
people overcome their traumas. It's just the natural capacity of
1841
01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:46.439
what happens is like, oh I did this and this work.
1842
01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:48.279
Let me show you what I did and maybe that
1843
01:57:48.319 --> 01:57:51.159
will work for you type of thing. And so in
1844
01:57:51.239 --> 01:57:54.920
that way, we do begin sharing our resources, we do
1845
01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.840
begin sharing our things. So if we could become like
1846
01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:01.479
the trees, that would be really, really awesome. We're a
1847
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:05.399
very far far way away from that. And we have
1848
01:58:05.479 --> 01:58:07.680
to realize too, that we're some of us are going
1849
01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:09.880
to be the trees. Some of us are going to
1850
01:58:09.880 --> 01:58:12.079
be the brush, some of us are going to be
1851
01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:13.840
the grasses. Some of us are going to be the
1852
01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:17.600
subterranean tubers and roots and corns and rhizomes. Some of
1853
01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:20.119
us are going to be the microbes. See, that's the
1854
01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:26.439
diversity of ecology. And if we can find our spaces
1855
01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:30.680
and our talents, our interests are placed in society. As
1856
01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:34.680
human beings, all of these roles will naturally be fulfilled,
1857
01:58:35.239 --> 01:58:38.359
but we have to get first through the traumas and
1858
01:58:38.359 --> 01:58:41.159
stop being a slave to you know, the corporate wage
1859
01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:45.880
and whatever else in order to even think about what
1860
01:58:46.039 --> 01:58:50.399
will enliven us, you know, And so kind of preceding
1861
01:58:50.520 --> 01:58:53.239
all of these things is what I refer to as
1862
01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:56.560
the trans personal alchemical process, and that's where we apply
1863
01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:00.239
these alchemical steps first to ourselves to overcome these base
1864
01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.640
or traumas and self limiting beliefs and other things, so
1865
01:59:03.680 --> 01:59:07.279
that we can become as self aware as possible and
1866
01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:09.960
move in a direction that allows us to start to
1867
01:59:09.960 --> 01:59:13.199
think about these alchemic culture concepts. So you're not wrong,
1868
01:59:13.359 --> 01:59:16.760
it's just I'm not advocate advocating communism.
1869
01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:17.159
Right.
1870
01:59:19.680 --> 01:59:22.960
So we've got about thirty minutes left. Let's briefly go
1871
01:59:23.159 --> 01:59:27.439
over the remainder of these principles that you're discussing, and
1872
01:59:27.720 --> 01:59:31.760
I want to close on what astronomology is.
1873
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:36.159
Okay, So the next one is citizenship and social dynamics.
1874
01:59:36.159 --> 01:59:39.039
What are our role within society? What is our role
1875
01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:42.960
as an individual citizen and how do we choose to work,
1876
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:47.720
you know, for the benefit of our society. The next
1877
01:59:47.840 --> 01:59:51.119
is agriculture and ecology. What is the role of agriculture
1878
01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:56.359
and ecology within any particular civilization or community or whatever,
1879
01:59:56.920 --> 01:59:59.960
because it's going to be different. That is largely dependent
1880
02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:03.600
upon the bioregion, you know, the climate, the microclimates, the
1881
02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:06.239
you know, all those different things. They all come into
1882
02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:08.479
play there, and so we need to think about how
1883
02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:11.600
we can steward those things as humans to create the
1884
02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:14.680
best benefit possible. And again that can tie it right
1885
02:00:14.720 --> 02:00:19.800
back into how resourceful is a particular area or location
1886
02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:23.079
versus another area, and how can you know how slash
1887
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.520
why would we choose to inhabit those areas or to
1888
02:00:25.560 --> 02:00:28.119
focus on those areas for living, because right now it's
1889
02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:33.840
mostly economically based. People live in Los Angeles for economic reasons,
1890
02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:36.319
you know, or because they were just born there and
1891
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:38.800
have no way of getting out. But that in itself
1892
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:42.760
is an economic reason in our current society. So otherwise
1893
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we would want to choose very deliberately why we want
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to live there, based on our own purpose and our
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own society and so on and so forth, and how
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how we can contribute to that with our own citizenship.
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The next is our sciences and our technologies. This is
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important because you know, we're using technologies and the sciences
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entirely irresponsibly. Actually, we're just developing for the sake of developing.
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We have to ask, yeah, we can, like I know
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that the human capacity is yeah, we can do anything individually, collectively,
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et cetera. But should we and why should we? These
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things are so critical to really explore, not just personally,
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but collectively as well before rolling out any sort of
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technology or engaging in any sort of scientific inquiry into
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absolutely any area. And so our sciences and technologies, which
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also tie into our arts as well. Technology and art
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always go hand in hand. Art usually pushes the boundaries
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of why technology is created in the first place, because
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it's human beings pushing the limit of their own creativity
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in their own imagination. That's what gives rise to technology.
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So arts, sciences, technology, they all kind of go hand
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in hand, but we need to be able to steward
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those in a much better way. And then, lastly, our
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healing and our medicine practices, what does it look like
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for us, Because you know, we're already at the point
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where within five to ten years. There are going to
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be injections. I've been following the science on this very
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intensely that there will be injections that we can do
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that are able to reverse the aging process of the
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DNA and of the mitochondria. And that's amazing for so
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many people. I mean, when you could take Grandma who
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has been suffering for a long time and reverse her
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aging process to the point where she's now, say twenty
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eight years old, again, Wow, that's a new lease on life,
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not just metaphorically, like physically, and that brings with it
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all sorts of wonderful or wonderful capacities and ideas, but
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it brings with it an enormous way of responsibility. How
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are we going to choose to live, How are we
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going to choose to breed? What are the rules around
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that engagement, either spoken or unspoken, and so on and
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so forth. So we need to be able to think
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about these types of things and what is ethical? What
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is the ideal lifespan of a human individual, What is
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the ideal amount of population that the ecology can serve?
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And see, all the things need to be figured out
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personologically first, and then we can think about it on
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these slightly more telescopic levels. But each one of these
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principles that I brought up builds upon the last, so
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that if you build from the ground up, starting with
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that first principle of our human cosmology, all the way
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up finally to our health and wellness, then it gives
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us a foundation to drop up on, just like the
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science of geometry does. Right. It's like when we do
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proofs inside of geometry, we are building upon logic that
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has already been pre established. And that type of logic
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is also the same way that I have tried to
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structure this alchemic culture system, where do this first, then this,
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then this, and then look backwards. When you're thinking about
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health and medicine, look back to the ecology, what does
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your ecology actually support? Look back to your economics. What
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do you do your economics support? Because right now that
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answer is with that injection the very rich, we'll be
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able to afford that technology. And do we really want
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the very rich living longest? Because they're oftentimes perpetuating the
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majority of the toxicity simply in the name of profit.
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So they got where they're at, but they've sacrificed so
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much of other people. They've you know, sacrificed other people
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in ecology and et cetera, or to be able to
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accomplish that. So that, in a nutshell is basically al
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chemical ture.
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Philosophy right on, man, I love this discussion is stimulating
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all kinds of different types of thoughts and concepts that
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we should be really looking towards.
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Now.
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To close out, tell us all about astronomology and the
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astromological calendar.
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Cool. Yeah, First of all, that is a hell of
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a mouthful, isn't it. Yeah, okay, So, so astronomology was
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I didn't create that term, but I have used it professionally.
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That term was created before me. It was one of
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those things where I thought I created it and then
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I look it up and it's like, oh, people have
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already used that. But it's basically a blend of astronomy,
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that's the astrono part and astrology, which is the ology
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part of it. And so for me, as an esotericist,
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astrology has always been a very important part of the
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hermetic paradigm, and as an alchemist, we would rarely be
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anywhere without this history of astrology kind of following us.
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But in my own workings I have found that the
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biodynamic calendar was far more correct than like the tropical
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astrology that was used before the time of Paracelsus, and
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even during the time Paracelsist didn't like to use astrology.
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Actually he said that astronomy was important in that we
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would be able to see the actual planets in their positions.
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So what he was referring to is like almost a
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true astronomical alignment of things. But he still brought up
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all of these concepts that were kind of astrological in nature,
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even though he didn't like the astrology of the time
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and spoke very outwardly against it. But other astrologers in
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the Renaissance were very big on this, and you know,
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of course today it's so popular that in the newspapers
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and magazines you have horoscopes for people's sun science. But
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the thing is is that all of those planets, whether
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we're talking about veda astrology, which is a form of
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siderial astrology, or whether we're talking about tropical astrology, which
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is used by most astrologers in the United States and
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abroad these days, they don't align whatsoever with the actual planet.
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So we could say that like, oh, the sun is
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in aries on March twentieth. Well, what does that mean?
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Because when I take a look at the position of
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the Sun around that time, it's actually still very clearly
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in the constellation of Pisces. And what I mean by
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that is that here in the background around the ecliptic
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as we're looking in the sky, is the constellation of Pisces,
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and the Sun is right in front of that constellation.
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So that means the Sun is in Pisces. But again,
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tropical astrologers are saying, well, no, it's actually an Aries.
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But Aries is way over here, and the Sun is
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not over there, it's over here. And so I started
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to notice in my own astrological works, especially engaging in
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biodynamic agriculture, that the Sun is actually not where they
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were saying that it is. From an astronomical perspective, And
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what does that mean? And what happens if I align
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the positions of where I'm actually perceiving the Sun to
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be from my topicentric perspective here on Earth and where
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the constellations are, And what happens if I change my
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perspective and say, instead of Son and Airy's sun is
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actually in Pisces. And so this means that root vegetables
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should ideally be planted at this particular time, or that
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roots actually have the greatest vitality, and that's what happens
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in the spring, is that the roots are waking up
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inside of everything and they're starting to send their energy outwards.
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And the sun is all about the distribution of vitality
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and energy and it's exuding from the root at the
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spring equinox. So to me, I've been able to see
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that there is a different perspective there. So I have
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combined astrology with astronomy, and the form of astrology that
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I use was created by Athin Kamente. A lot of
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people have heard me exalt his virtues over the years.
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Now I've had ethn on a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, he's awesome. I love him. Can't speak highly enough
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about him. So his astrology was the very first astrology form,
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which he calls true scenerialistorology that I was able to
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actually validate and verify through clinical studies on humans as
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well as validate with my plants inside of my gardens
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and by utilizing biodynamic principles Maria tun style biodynamic principles,
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but with his count of the true serial astrological positions
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of astronomical bodies. And what's interesting is his form is
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even more accurate than the International Astronomical Union data, which
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is looking at things from an astronomical perspective, and all
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he's doing it's a very simple system. Is you take
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the end of one constellation along the ecliptic and the
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beginning of the next, and this is derived from the
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last star the furthest star in one constellation Sapisces, and
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the first star of Varies. And he draws the midpoint
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between those and he says that's now the cusp. And
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as the planets go through the entire ecliptic, which is
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to say, all the different constellations, we realize that there
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is actually thirteen of those, not just twelve, because even
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though it's just the smallest little bit of the foot
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of Ophiuchus that is along the ecliptic. And we do
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have evidence that ancient cultures would have used this as well,
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especially Greeks. Pre Ptolemaic Greeks would have definitely used this.
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So I started validating a lot of his research when
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I found his work and have been running split tests
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on it ever since, and since twenty twenty two, I
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have been creating the astronomological calendars, which basically break down
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the position of where all of the planets actually are
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and in what actual constellations, and then combining that with
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proper astronomy too, so letting people know, you know when
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our eclipses and like today, for instance, the Earth is
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at perihelion today, which means the Earth is the closest
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to the Sun that it will be all year long.
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And so we include perihelion data and ap helion data
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for not just Earth, but all of the planets. We
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also give appage and perigee times for the Moon, and
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I lay out all six of the different lunar rhythms,
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which is to say, waxing and waning cycles, the ascending
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and descending moon cycles, ascending node and descending node cycles,
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and it's the appage and perag cycles, and so much more.
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So I have done my very best to be able
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to take everything that can be validated and verified using
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alchemical lab work and agriculture and put it into a
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style of a calendar that can be used for Auraelian spageria.
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Like the spagirics that I practice are slightly different and
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even if only technically in application and in pharmacology from
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what is oftentimes being taughtest Bageeria. That's why I gave
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it the particular name or Araelianspageeria, and for Aralian medicine,
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which is the whole form of medicine that I've been creating,
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and for alchemic culture principles as well, and so all
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of those are there inside of my calendar, and it's
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a huge undergoing. We only print off two hundred calendars
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every year because it's not you know, this is the
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third year that I will have been making this calendar,
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and so it's not terribly terribly popular. There's a handful
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of people across a globe who are using it, and
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it's only good for the Northern hemisphere at that. So
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we have some people in Europe and a decent amount
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of people in North America that are using these calendars.
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But it's less than two hundred people, you know what
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I mean, at least in print version. You can get
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this in PDF version on the website as well. But
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so yeah, it's growing in popularity. And what I have
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encouraged people to do is, just like myself, I produce
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this thing enormously costly, for me to print. It's enormously costly.
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It takes me like four months to hand make this
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calendar because I have to do everything date by date
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by date and research and compare it to tons of
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different types of things. But it's I encourage people to
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use that and run split tests against biodynamic calendars or
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against you know, like Llewellyn's calendar for witches and you
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know other things where.
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They ask you, do you think it could possibly be
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our collective misunderstanding of astrology that maybe is a contributing
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factor into the state of society these days where we've
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been led wrong in some ways that was just a
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snowball effect over the centuries.
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Yeah, I definitely do, and I think, you know, I
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think the tropical astrology does have an effect. But the
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reason it has an effect, as far as I can tell,
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is because people believe in it. And anything that we
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believe in has some sort of power from the astral
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and so so we are deriving some energy from that.
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But when we align our belief systems with more perennial truths,
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then we're able to get a much better result. And
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that was the whole basis behind this for me, was
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let's actually, you know, the astral actually comes from Astra star,
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and the stars are putting out energies frequencies to us constantly.
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That that is a perennial truth. All of the megalithic
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and Neolithic monuments are aligned to the actual stars, not
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to the idea of where the stars would have been
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in some intangible calculation. So people are believing in things
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that give it some form of power, just like our government,
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just like our currency, just like all of those things.
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And they're relying simply on the mental plane and the
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emotion of the adulteration of the emotional plane, that emotional
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sense of certainty that solidifies and crystallize in those sick
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beliefs that have influenced our entire humanity, and sadly a
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lot of people are very subject to that. So yes,
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in short, the answer is yes, Chris, I do right.
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On now, how do you feel about the energies of
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the upcoming years and what we could be looking towards
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as far as different outcomes, pivotal moments in the collective
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consciousness of society and everything that's happened and where we're going.
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I feel hopeful, because if I lose hope, then I
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don't know that I would really keep going, you know,
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it drive me to a point of suicide or something.
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But realistically I think that, you know, I have seen
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a lot of changes that are very, very beneficial happened
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just in the course of my lifetime, and they're not
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taking mainstream hold yet, but they're growing exponentially each and
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every year. And some people just need such a hard
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and intense crisis to be able to get and honest
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and truthful with themselves that things might need to get
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worse before they get better. But we are near that
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breaking point. I think, now, what does near mean? I
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don't know. That could be highly subjective, could mean this year,
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It could mean ten years from now, could mean fifty
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years from now. But you know, there's not one source
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of water on the planet that does not have what
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is called a PFAS or pfos, a forever chemical inside
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of it. This is every source of water in the world.
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And that's because all water flows into one another throughout
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the whole world, through underground aquifers, through evaporation and rain
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systems and so on and so forth. They are all
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one system. That everything is one system at its base.
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That's the spiritual perennial concept of unity, but realistically, we're
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poisoning ourselves and everything else with our human behaviors that
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are unconscious. And so if we can just make as
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you know, as Young said, make the unconscious conscious, then
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we're a able to really make some cool impacts and strides.
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And that doesn't take a lot. It takes silence, and
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it takes introspection and unadulterated honesty. We have to get
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real with ourselves. Why are we doing things? What are
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we justifying as our beliefs, as our modus operandi, and
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why are we participating in that? And once you get
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to that answer, then that opens up the space for
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transformation and we have to we are at a critical juncture,
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I think, where we have to look at this as
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humanity if we want to go on with any semblance
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of our historical integrity that we have had since as
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far back as you know, we can possibly go in
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the archaeological records and however far humanity and humanoid like
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existence exists before that, we really just have to get
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real with ourselves, Chris, and we have to be able
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to see personally and sociologically, what are the things that
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are the most important to us and what can we
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not sacrifice and what is what do we want the
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direction to be? And that is an answer that every
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single individual has to have, or at least, by far
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the vast majority of individuals has to have, because otherwise
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what we're doing is the same thing is what they're
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doing right now. Is that a small group of thinkers,
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regardless of whether they're noble or not, are going to
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guide the whole course of humanity because humanity is too
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lazy or trauma ridden or whatever the case is to
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take accountability for themselves. So I see that moving forward,
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cycles of the cosmos are going to continue to act
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on us, just as they have for many, many, many,
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many many millennia, and we can't avoid that. We can.
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What we can do, though, is we can be aware
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of where we want to be going and where we're
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at now and utilize the cycles that are us at
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any given moment to be able to help to instill
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a better future for ourselves. Like, for instance, Mars is
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moving into the constellation of Sagittarius today. That is a
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very fiery energy and that lends itself to calcination, to
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self honesty, to the burning away of self justifications, and
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belief systems. That is a really great archetype for that.
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And if people can take this opportunity of that cosmic
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cycle that is already inherent and shed to Earth from
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the cosmos itself and use that as an opportunity the
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impetus to be able to transform, then we have some chance.
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And like I said, I remain hopeful because without that,
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I don't know what I would have.
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Excellent. I love it, man, this was fantastic.
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We definitely have to speak again very soon in the future.
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We barely scratch a surface on some of this stuff,
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and we'll.
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Get much deeper.
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Before you head out, remind the audience how they can
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find out more about you and get a hold of
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all your content and everything you're offering.
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Thank you so much. Yeah, So, the best way for
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folks to get a hold of me is through my
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website at Phoenixeralius dot org. We basically have like a
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Patreon style structure, so everything that you buy, whether the
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astronomological calendar or any of the multitudinous I have almost
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even my meditation albums or educational series and things like that.
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That all continues to support my research and to fund
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me to be able to come up with ideas like
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this and to share them with the public and so
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on and so forth. So it's you don't have to
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subscribe to anything. You just buy what you want, and
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that helps to fund and support the research and helps
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me to continue doing what I'm doing. So, phoenixrelius dot
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org and I do share a lot of ideas and
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other things on my own podcast, which is called the
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Alchemiculture Podcast, and you can find that on Spotify and
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Apple and you tube and all the other places that
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things like that are. So if you like these ideas,
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that might be another fun way of engaging with these
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these types of topics.
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Amazing. Thank you so much, Phoenix. This was fantastic.
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Like I said, we'll do this again soon and until
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next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We will talk
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again tomorrow and we'll see y'all then.