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On this episode of Engineering Influence, host Jeff Urbanchuk sits down with Sean Young from NVIDIA to explore how artificial intelligence — particularly agentic AI and large language models — is reshaping the AEC industry.
Sean and Jeff discuss why firms should start treating project data as valuable IP, how AI agents can automate repetitive CAD and BIM tasks, and the ways AI is accelerating design iteration. They also dig into why engineering firms need to position themselves as technology- and AI-first organizations to stay competitive.
The conversation highlights findings from the ACEC Research Institute's Firm of the Future initiative, along with practical steps firms can take right now to scale expertise across their teams and free up engineers to focus on higher-value design decisions.
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So thank you again to Autodesk.
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Welcome to the Engineering Influence Podcast from the American Council of Engineering
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Companies, coming to you from our 2026th Annual Convention and Legislative Summit.
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One of the issues that has been really burning for a couple of years now,
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we were at really the outset of it.
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Actually, I take that back because I was at FIDIC in Mexico City in 2019,
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and we had a former Silicon Valley exec who said that if you're at an engineering
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firm or you're at a data firm, you just don't know it yet, that was 2019.
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And now I could say that if you're an engineering firm, you're actually at an
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AI firm, you just don't know it yet.
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I'm joined by Sean Young, who runs really the AEC component of NVIDIA with the
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Institute on its Firm of the Future initiative. Sean, thank you for joining
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the program. Yeah, thanks, Jeff.
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I mean, you know, it was funny back then. They said, well, you know,
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if you're at a data firm, you just don't realize it. And everyone's like, oh, OK.
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And from 2019 to about 2020, now, 2026, now it's shifted completely to now it's
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like you are now at an AI firm. You just don't know it yet.
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How, it's not really a question of if, but when. From your perspective,
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you know, how is AI really changing the landscape in the AEC industry?
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You know, it's, what's interesting as you're talking, I'm thinking what you
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say can be applied to every company. Yeah.
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Cause like, it's like, how did you operate before you had a computer?
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How did you possibly, what you use a fax machine and telephone?
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How, we're going to say that about AI. How did you operate before AI?
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And AI is not, in the near term, something that's going to be spoon-fed.
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It's not as simple as straightforward as the evolution from paper to computers with CAD was.
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Because that was just like, go buy a computer, the software company will tell
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you what computer to buy, and you double-click on the installer and installs
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your thing, and you just read our manual. well, here's the things you can do
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and here's the things you can't do. Yeah.
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AI can do just about anything. Yeah. Which is where it gets complicated because
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it means you have to be the investigator and the arbitrator of that knowledge within your firm. Yeah.
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And there's a lot of knowledge out there. The good thing is we can all use large
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language models, chatbots to help us navigate all that knowledge so you can
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start using AI to help you figure out how to use AI. Yeah.
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Yeah, you can kind of like help it build the ship while you're trying to sail at the same time.
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And everybody kind of focuses on the large language models that are out there
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and pervasive, of course, in everything that we're seeing now.
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But it goes beyond that. I mean, it really is a question of how do you take
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all this information that you own as a company? How do you leverage that information
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into an AI model that actually produces the desired outcome?
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One thing I was really interested in talking about this issue,
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you know, a couple of years ago were how few firms in the AEC space actually
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had people in the C-suites who were actually focused on data.
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Either a chief data security officer, chief information officer.
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I mean, it goes, you know, everybody had an IT department, but nobody was actually
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thinking holistically or universally about how their data is maintained and
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security of it. And then how do you actually take advantage of it?
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Yeah. What have you seen in the industry over the past couple of years about
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how that's changed? In this industry, not a whole lot.
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In other industries, there's data scientists.
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And so firms have hired data scientists to organize all the data.
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Because in this industry, very services based, the project's done, you archive the data.
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In other industries, you learn from that data. So the data, like in healthcare,
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the data is informing all sorts of research and discovery.
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Well, it could be the same with AEC.
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You just need to harness that. So what I would say is now, you know, your data is your IP.
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It's the way you do things. The data is in all sorts of different files.
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Some of those files are software vendors files and some of it's Excel or PDFs or whatever.
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But that's okay. It used to be that you would have to get, I mean,
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used to be like the ancient history about a year ago. Yeah, exactly.
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I have to go get a data team of data scientists to figure out how to crack all
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the different data formats, normalize all the data into one homogenous data lake, blah, blah, blah.
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But now you can just have agents go and figure it out.
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Just tell an agent, you go, you know, get, here's all of my data at NVIDIA.
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We have tons of data repositories, but we have one, well, actually I have many
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agents, but all of those agents have access to all the data.
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And it just goes, it doesn't matter, I don't know what format it's in.
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I just give it a prompt and access to all of the repositories.
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It goes and fetches all the data. Well, I found this and this in Confluence
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and I found this in GitHub and I found this and here's what you got.
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And that, I think, is a good transition from looking at, like,
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okay, everybody knows about the large language models, and you kind of prompt
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something, you'll get a result.
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If you have a closed data set, you can train it and create a project that actually
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has those parameters to say that you must search within this data set with these limitations.
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That's one part of the process.
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What we're looking at in the future is really the spread of agentic AI.
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And let's boil that back for people who aren't focusing on it as much as you
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and I are. what's an agent,
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And how can it be employed by an ADC firm to actually do work faster?
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Okay, well, everybody, I'm assuming, is familiar with ChatGPT at this point.
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So ChatGPT is a form of a large language model.
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It's a model that was trained on very generic data, all of the internet,
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and it understands languages.
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One of those languages could be coding. One of those languages could be English, et cetera.
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In that language understanding, there's also an understanding of all the context
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of history and different subject matters.
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So, but the method of you interacting with ChatGPT is you type something in, which is a prompt.
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It processes that and gives you a response, which is, by the way,
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what it's doing is inference. Yeah.
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And it generates tokens. Just side note, generates tokens.
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And tokens are really the.
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You know, the currency of AI. A token is essentially your action within that model.
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The token is the unit of compute that the inference model is generating to give you a response.
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So your response may be one token, depending if the inference requires some
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reasoning or some thinking, it may be multiple tokens.
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And each token has a cost. And as things develop and things get better,
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the price per compute is going to essentially lower, and then you'll have,
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yeah, greater flexibility in time and theory.
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Yeah, it also depends where you get your computer. Exactly. Because if you're
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running your models locally on hardware that you own, then you have infinite
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amount of tokens until, I mean, you run out of compute space. Yes.
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Okay, so back to what is egetic. So in ChatGPT, you type in a prompt and you get a response.
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Then you learn something and you type in a prompt and you get a response. Well, what if you're...
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Question was how do i use my cad program to to do this thing.
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And the response would be here are the 30 steps or here are the 100 steps or
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here are the 1000 steps yeah and you'd be like all right i'll copy and paste
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that into a document and then go do those,
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1000 1000 things now i could do this cool thing i never knew how to do before
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and it's customized to specifically what i wanted to do and i didn't have to
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read the manual pretty awesome except you still have to do the 1000 steps exactly
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So you're not that far ahead.
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Well, where Agentic comes in is now you say, all right, do that for me.
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And now the computer, the Agentic AI is going into that application and doing it all for you. Yeah.
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And you just skipped a thousand, and you can go to sleep. Exactly.
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And that's why I think one of the big takeaways in the Firm the Future Research
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and the report that is just now out that essentially AI is not a question of replacing engineers.
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It's going to be allowing engineers to do things faster, more efficiently,
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and to free them up to do the things that they really should be doing by leveraging agents to,
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do all these sub-operations at a level.
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A multiplication effect that was impossible beforehand. So you could have a
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firm of 20 engineers that now becomes unlimited by the number of agents that
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you're actually allowed or can produce to do the work. That's right.
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Every engineer now has a team.
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Resources are unlimited as long as you have compute. So you have a team of 10 people.
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Before I start my day now, before I go in and check my email,
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I want to get my agents rolling. I want to get at least a couple agents rolling.
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So like they're doing work while I'm doing work. because once I get into email
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and meetings, I mean, I have to get them rolling.
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But I have some, I just had a team call. Some people on my team have automatic
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agents, so they're just working all the time.
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They don't have to get them started.
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So, and those agents could be, I mean, they could be doing a lot of work for
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you, but also helping you iterate because there's experimentation involved in
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the process. There's creativity.
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Well, I'll have this agent try 10 things this way. I'll have another agent try
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another 10 things the other way, and let's see which one wins.
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It allows firms that don't have this. It used to be that you'd have to be a
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very large firm with a lot of different capabilities to be able to do the amount
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of iteration, the amount of,
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experimentation that, you know, there's no way a small firm could do it.
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But leveraging agentic AI...
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Setting it up properly, it really does completely level the playing field that
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you can now engage in the same amount of testing iteration that any of the large ones get. That's right.
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And like, you know, in terms of replacing people, I mean, that's not high value
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work, in my opinion, pushing buttons in a software application.
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Like the high value is bringing your ingenuity to bear and applying your creativity and making decisions.
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But like have the agents go and do the boring stuff that is tear-pulling.
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Yeah, it's empowering the engineer to do the work that they were trained to
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do. Yeah, that they want to do.
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Now, looking ahead, I mean, from NVIDIA's perspective, I mean,
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both from just the development of AI, both in hardware and then the implementation,
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I mean, where do you, I mean, you're engaged with the firm of the future.
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It's fantastic to have a company like NVIDIA part of this process to help guide the future.
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What is, you know, NVIDIA's.
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Entrance into the EEC space? I mean, where do you see the growth opportunity there?
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Where is it from your company's perspective on what the future holds in our
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industry? Ah, it's a really open-ended question. I know.
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The sky's the limit. The sky's the limit. And where NVIDIA fits is we're enabling
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the ecosystem to do better, to do more with less, to accelerate.
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We work with all the software companies to help them at the low level with these
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computationally complex processes that can be accelerated on our technology stack.
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So that's AI is a great example.
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We have, yes, all these applications hit our hardware, but we have tons of software
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libraries for developers that they implement and integrate into their software
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and use to develop their AI,
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and that gets rolled out on our interviews.
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A portion of the firm of the future also looks at, of course,
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the future of the firm in 2035. And, of course, we look at the workforce issue
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and really what is the firm going to be after we get to the point where AI,
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energetic AI becomes kind of ubiquitous.
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And you talk about pretty much the AI, you know, the AI first mentality.
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It's not a firm that implements AI in the back end, but it's one that actually
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is built on the foundational model of having AI at its core.
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Right. You know, how do you see the industry evolving to be an AI first industry?
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I think the industry needs to first think about itself as a technology-first industry.
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Because I think it's been like a technology laggard. Yeah.
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Not taking, I would say, firms in general don't really take accountability for
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technology. They buy off the shelf. Yeah.
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Which is fine. You could buy off the shelf, and you should continue to buy off
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the shelf. There's tons of options out there.
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But I think you really have to know what those options are and have to have.
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Particularly now with AI, have to have some ability to use your data,
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to leverage your data, to inform what those applications are doing.
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So, for example, if you buy a software application that has AI functionality
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in it, it's generic. Just the same way Chad GPT is generic. It's trained on
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the entirety of the internet.
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So some AEC-specific AI feature that is from a software company is trained on
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some data set that wasn't yours.
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It doesn't reflect the way your business works.
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So the question becomes, how do you then teach that AI to do things Jeff's way?
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Because Jeff's been doing, Jeff Incorporated has been doing the same thing,
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building a hospital in this region according to this building code and the way
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this region or hospital board likes to work for 50 years.
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And you know what you're doing better than anybody. That is not going to be
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encapsulated in that generic AI. So you need to teach that AI with your data.
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In order to do that, you have to have people in your firm to understand all this technology.
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And that's the biggest thing I think is, you know, even organizationally from
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AECC, We recognize this and we realize that, you know, we have a lot of data.
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It's not structured appropriately to be able to leverage AI.
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You have to get to the point where you actually understand the entire universe
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of your data and then structure it in such a way where you could put it into
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a model to actually have it do what you want to do.
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So that's really interesting because I would have totally agreed with you a year ago.
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Is that all now outmoded thinking or is it? I think we're getting there.
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I mean, there's two schools of thought. One is exactly what you just said.
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You got to go in brute force, get some data scientists, get all of your data
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in one repository, normalize it all into the same format, homogenize it all.
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And then all of a sudden you have a single point of view. And if you think about
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tabular data, you can zero in on exactly what you need.
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But with agentic AI- You can have it do it for you. Yeah.
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Just put it in and say, okay, here's the data, sort it by kind,
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sort it by X, Y, Z, whatever kind of tag you want to put it in.
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You figure it out. Figure it out and then come out. Yeah, you figure it out. So there you go.
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So I'm behind the times already because I'm trying to figure out like, you know, everybody is.
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And that's the thing. This is happening so fast. But the point is,
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you know, all of a sudden you have to worry a lot less about interoperability
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if you're not having to brute force a situation.
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Absolutely. If you have agents that are working around the clock to just go,
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you know, whether it's import, export, normalize, find some standards and normalize
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around that, whatever it is, agents are going to figure it out and the agents can figure it out.
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And you just keep testing until you find like a non-lossy way to do it.
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So we could talk about this for hours.
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I think that, you know, the Firm the Future report that came out,
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you know, this week, I encourage everyone to take a look at it.
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It's up on the ACC Research Institute website.
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It's the continual research product coming out of this initiative.
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What's next for the work that the Institute's doing and NVIDIA's work with the
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Institute on kind of the next product in that firm of the future?
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Well, what I'm super excited about is, first of all, all this stuff can be done
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today. And so we talked about ChatGPT.
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That's OpenAI. Yeah. And OpenAI has an agentic toolkit called Codex.
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Yep. And you can go and download it and start using it. Got it on my Mac. Right on. And so now...
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Back to that automation system instead of giving me the 1000 lines of code just
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tell your codex to go and do it the way it does it is by into with a traditional
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isv application is by connecting to that application
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through the applications api yeah all applications have apis which is like if you're a programmer,
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or a plugin developer you can write some code that accesses the application
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through the api yeah well now your codex
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can access the application so once you have that It's connected,
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and then you can just create the agent to do exactly what you want through that
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API connection to that app.
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And essentially, that's a blank canvas for whatever you need to accomplish. That's right.
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And now, to make it even easier, so the other example of an agentic tool is
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Claude Cowork. And Cowork just...
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Last week, announced a bunch of connectors for creative workflows.
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SketchUp, Autodesk Fusion, Blender. So it's all coming together.
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It's all starting to come together. So that's the MCP and the skills that it
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needs, all that to go and do the work for me.
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Now, I mentioned three applications. Why couldn't you just tell,
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you know, co-work, hey, go do something with all those three applications.
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So use all the applications you want. They're all installed on my computer.
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So on my team, we're testing now, here is the RFP.
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Generate an Excel version of the RFP with all the key data. Go and use Rhino with Grasshopper.
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Create a conceptual drawing of the building with some options.
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Maybe even I'll give it a sketch as some inspiration.
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Generate a conceptual model. Render that for me.
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Bring it into a BIM application.
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Create a structurally sound model based off of all that and create the construction docs
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one prompt and i was just on a call with my team and we were testing this out
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and watching it and we're like wait a second put 49 columns how did he get that
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information is that in the rfp like how does it know to do 49 columns and,
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and we went and checked the rfp that we didn't there's nothing like that in
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the rfp so somehow somehow just figure that out and that's funny and it shows
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how quickly things were developing because I've had conversations with firms
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that were on a leading edge of AI and they were even talking about the fact that.
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Yeah, we haven't got to drawing yet. We're getting close to that.
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But now we're at that point where we can put the prompt in and actually render.
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And that was not too long ago. I mean, if you don't get on the train now,
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you're going to be left at the station. Yeah. Here's your prompt.
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Read my RFP, generate conceptual model, BIM model, conceptual rendering,
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and full set of construction docs. Yeah. These specific sheets that you're looking for.
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Well, let's wrap it here because I know you've got another education session to get to.
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You were at one earlier. It was standing room only. You were on stage earlier
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talking about this with the Firm of the Future group. I encourage everyone out
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there, again, look at the research, get involved with it.
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I'd love to have you on again as this keeps on developing.
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But for right now, we'll leave it there, Sean Young, NVIDIA,
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part of the Firm of the Future initiative over here at the ACS Research Institute.
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Thanks for your time. Thanks, Jeff. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much.
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