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Speaker 2 0:15
All right. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to episode two of Divas on the ground. Unfortunately, today we are down a diva, so it's a duo today. So you have Jordan and River, and today we're going to be talking about sports, kind of in its general role. We're not going to get too hyper fixated on something specific. We'll leave that for a later episode, but I kind of want to bring up all the leagues right now that are fully running. I mean, MLB's in their playoffs-that's going about as well as everyone's expecting. Unfortunate for certain fans, me with the Chicago Cubs, unfortunately, and then you have the NFL. They're hitting week five this week, and you have hockey, the NHL. You have them starting. They're about a week week and a half deep into their season, but regardless of all that, the bigger issue with the NFL and the NHL, you got some teams who are not performing how they usually have performed in the past for like a decade or two, I mean the Cleveland Browns in the NFL. Why do they have a good record? We'll never know. I mean the Vancouver Canucks. They're also doing pretty good. They were last in the league last year. Let's let's talk about that actually.
Speaker 3 1:35
Let's talk about it a little bit. What's going on with the Raiders? Um, I don't believe in the timeline we're in, where the Raiders were three zero last week, yeah, and they're now three one.
Speaker 2 1:47
Yeah, you know I'm not really loving the fact that it took the Kansas City Chiefs to be the ones to get them down. That's not how this is supposed to work here. No, the Raiders, y'all got the first round draft pick for the season, y'all were bad. You're on the wrong timeline now. You could not have gotten that good that quickly. I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 2:08
I don't believe in this.
Speaker 2 2:09
I don't believe in it. And I mean, if you're a sports bettor or if you're in any sort of fantasy leagues, you're kind of you've kind of been getting screwed over lately because no one's playing how you expect them to play, so either you're losing big money, or you're going for the underdog and you're just stealing every one of cash. Because if you're doing that, teach me your ways and why you're so confident in the underdogs to get that money. How rich are you? What do you do for a job? Hit me up with employment, please.
Speaker 3 2:40
There are too many movies that discuss and highlight the underdogs as the achieving team, and I feel like that's exactly why people root for the underdog so much, even if there isn't usually a high payout from it. Yes,
Speaker 2 2:53
exactly. I mean, guys, I get it. Remember the Titans? Great movie. They're the underdog team there. The
Speaker 3 3:00
Mighty Ducks,
Speaker 2 3:01
the Mighty Ducks miracle. No one was expecting the Olympic ice hockey team for the U.S. to actually, you know, beat the Soviet Union, but you know, people believed. Sometimes belief is not enough, guys. This we're kind of cynical on this show,
Speaker 3 3:16
just a bit,
Speaker 2 3:17
just a bit, but we're realistic.
Speaker 3 3:20
We're honest.
Speaker 2 3:20
We're exactly. We're honest. We're giving you honest opinions, honest deep cuts, honest everything. You, we're not gonna lie to you. We're not gonna sugarcoat it, cause I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 3:34
That's not what divas do.
Speaker 2 3:35
That's not what the divas on the ground do. I mean, if we're on the ground, boots on the ground, journalism, the divas will tell you, and the divas will supply. We're gonna we're gonna give you your info on everything, and I mean, especially going back to the underdog movies and sports, particularly, we can't put that much faith in everything because guys, a lot of people gambling is an addiction, by the way. So keep that in mind when you're doing this. Don't
Speaker 3 4:04
remember that.
Speaker 2 4:04
Please don't bet your mortgage on anything, but people still do that. They still bet mortgages. So it's a little. You're very confident for the underdog team because I mean, personally, the last two weeks, I will admit, on the Athletic via the New York Times, I do my NFL pickums every week, and I take it real serious. I look at stats, I look at injuries, I look at records. I win against the Atlanta Falcons two weeks in a row because they're the Falcons. They haven't had a good season. They haven't been doing good. They screwed me over twice in a row, so I picked them to win this week. So if you guys don't win, you will be getting a letter. Actually, I mean, and then that just there there has to be conspiracy going somewhere. Something has to be happening around the league. It's not great. In the
Speaker 3 4:58
water, they're drinking.
Speaker 2 5:00
The water, not even the water. It's the Powerade, the watered down Powerade. Whatever Patrick Mahomes is sipping on the sidelines in the locker rooms, I don't know, but it's magical for him, I guess.
Speaker 3 5:11
Something's cooking in the underdogs.
Speaker 2 5:13
Something's cooking for them this season. So you know, we might actually get a new Super Bowl matchup. Shocking. If I don't see the Chiefs or the Eagles on my screen in the playoffs, it's gonna be a great time for me. I'm gonna be leaping, jumping for joy.
Speaker 3 5:27
Can we please, please, please, please, with a cherry on top, get a new Super Bowl pairing? Please be tired.
Speaker 2 5:34
Please, for the love of God, it's been the same for like five years. I don't let
Speaker 3 5:38
it be the Raiders.
Speaker 2 5:40
Please, please actually don't let it be the Raiders. I mean, you know, support them for you know local team and all, but in my rights as a sports fan in general, I I can't do that. I mean, it's it's too in my blood as a Bronco fan. I can't do it. I'll support them from the sideline if they're playing the Chiefs, and I'll support them then.
Speaker 3 5:58
Right. Only then.
Speaker 2 6:00
Only then, I there's limits, there's levels,
Speaker 3 6:03
there's levels to this,
Speaker 2 6:04
there's levels to this.
Speaker 3 6:05
I'm not willing to stoop down to enjoy the Raiders, and this is coming from somebody who is a fan of another relatively crappy team, the Dallas Cowboys. Now, this is a generational fan fandom in my family, so I'm I'm like I'm in it, you know. But you know what? Maybe it maybe it will be our year. It won't be, but maybe.
Speaker 2 6:30
Okay, and that's coming from you know the Toronto Maple Leafs of the NFL. It's always your year, isn't it? Okay, it's always your year. But I mean, let's also just look at that hockey season just started. We're fresh on it. Like we've played maybe, I say four or five games for most teams. We're starting to hit our six now, I believe, somewhere around there. It's very, it's very low. We just started like two weeks in, pretty early still. And I mean, some teams are performing how you're not expecting them to, and then you also have some of your newest draft picks that got a lot of media attention lately. First overall, Gavin McKenna. I mean, we all-if you know hockey-we all know how brutal the Toronto media is surrounding the Maple Leafs. It's crazy. It's insane. And to think that you know barely a couple games in, and some like 18 year old kid is already getting called a draft bust is insane, right? Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 7:29
That is insane.
Speaker 2 7:30
And then you had second overall pick Evar Stenberg, who went to the San Jose Sharks. You can see the stark difference in media surrounding hockey from two totally different like areas and demographics. Evros Denberg, he's a darling down there. They love him. They love him down. He's media darling over here. They're loving him. He's treated like everyone's little kid brother. Gavin McKenna is through the trenches right now. He just got his first NHL goal, I think last night. Yeah, last night he bagged his first goal. That's the only thing that got them to start changing their tune. He had to produce in order to get some sort of respect, even after going first overall. And you know, as a rising journalist, hoping and praying to get into sports media, I honestly hate that.
Speaker 3 8:21
Yeah,
Speaker 2 8:23
like it's weird.
Speaker 3 8:25
It is really weird to see like somebody so fresh not be like recognized for their skill for making it to the NHL to making it to professional like professional sports in general. The chance of that is so small, and to like be on a team and not be seen from the fans until you put out like,
Speaker 2 8:51
like basically until you're producing something, you're just not recognized, and then you just get trashed in media all the time. Like that, I don't think people realize how much mental strength you need to actually go into professional sports because you can block things all you want, you can block accounts all you want, you like you can make it just noise. But if you hear it enough, it keeps getting into you, and I feel like that's also seen across like oh dynamic duos. Like one is always getting like fawned after, and the others like oh an afterthought. They're always just there, even though they're both equally as talented and have different strengths to them. I feel
Speaker 3 9:30
as though the press forgets how damaging that they can be, or maybe not forget, but they don't pay attention to how damaging the words they say towards athletes, towards any sort of person in the spotlight. They're not mindful in general.
Speaker 2 9:49
They're not mindful of it. They're
Speaker 4 9:50
not.
Speaker 2 9:51
They don't take into account, and that's what gives a lot of journalists a bad rep. Also, second thing that gives them a bad rep. Guys, we gotta we gotta switch up our questions so that we're asking athletes. You can only ask how many so many times. How do you think the offense could be better when you're down like 40 nothing in a football game or down two nothing at the end of a period? Sometimes we have to ask questions layered in a different way, get different answers out here. Because I'm sorry, guys. Let's run it back to after the Winter Olympics this year. One of the first questions out of an interviewer's mouth to Macklin Celebrini, like upon his return, was, and I quote here, "Would you return? Like, would you want to go back to the Olympics? Let's think about this.
Speaker 3 10:41
I feel I remember this clip, and if I remember correctly, Celebreni looked so like
Speaker 2 10:47
perplexed, right? Like
Speaker 3 10:49
that's such an obvious yes answer.
Speaker 2 10:52
And you know what? We got a little bit of you know Bratlin in that. He was a little. He was a he was a fellow diva for that. He, and I feel like I can tell that you can tell when athletes don't want to talk to the press. It's very obvious, and they're only doing it out of their contractual obligation. Obviously, I get it. You don't want to talk to some people after you're doing this. Like you could have the worst game of your life and still be pulled from media. I totally understand that, but the journalists and the press are not making it any easier or any better. If you keep asking these types of questions or keep asking the same types of questions, the players slowly start to hate you. You get the same fabricated answers. You're never gonna get your good article going. And I feel like that's also how a lot of athletes then get bad reps of oh they're just they're so dismissive like they're not talking to anybody. What do you expect them to do when they keep getting asked how can it be better? What did what went what went wrong? What happened? Right. How can we generate something?
Speaker 3 11:59
It's questions that are hard to answer in a given moment as well. Yeah, like these are things that have to be overviewed and analyzed before actually making changes. And like another thing with journalism and like the press conferences and everything, it's the same fabricated responses because they athletes want to see something new. Athletes don't like being asked the same five questions over and over and over again after every single game.
Speaker 2 12:26
Yes. Oh my god. And I feel like that's another reason why I want to get into sports media so bad. I'm like, please. I have good questions I want to ask you guys. Like, there are some things that I feel like aren't even touched on long enough, because especially with the Raiders this season, they're off to a great start. As much as it pains some people to say it, they're doing great. They're looking good. They have, they have some sort of method down and locked for themselves. I feel like a very good question, an important question for them would be, do you think a difference in locker room environment has influenced how you're now playing on the field? Because like now you're starting to feel like you want to be around each other, you like each other. Before you were barely coworkers. Y'all did not like each other, and you you can tell. Do you like? I feel like could that be attributed to the rise in the social admins being around and doing like the different challenges with the team, because then that gets you to like start laughing together and like going through. Like,
Speaker 3 13:33
could a problem of a lot of these like quote unquote crappy teams be because there isn't a lot of like bonding amongst the crew. Question mark.
Speaker 2 13:44
It definitely could be. I think because I mean, I I used to play sports, so you know you get that team environment. If you're on a constant losing streak, it's hard to want to be around people after that, especially if you, shamelessly saying, were one of the ones who had to help carry the team in a sense, and you notice that, like, I mean, I'm gonna touch on personal experience here. I had a game where we lost so bad it was god awful. I was crying on, I was crying coming off the field there, like tears running down my face, almost sobbing until I got to the car, and then I saw a bunch of teammates running around giggling, playing tag with each other. That's not gonna, you know, inspire me to want to go hang out with them because it feels like they don't care. So that could definitely be a portion of the, in lamest terms to say here, the crappy teams of leagues-they're not getting that bonding because you genuinely just don't want to be around people after losing like that. And then also, you'll know you're not good company, so why just basically build up resentment against each other? I feel like that. That's a great thing too. I mean, but that's also to get away from such you know sad topic there. That was a little depressing. God, let's talk about
Speaker 3 15:14
the moon landing.
Speaker 2 15:15
Yeah. So, do you believe in the moon landing? Do you think we got to the moon in the '60s? Did we win the space race?
Speaker 3 15:27
Pardon my silence. I'm gathering my thoughts. Um, so I can see why people may or may not believe that the moon landing didn't happen. Um, how? I am a firm believer of science. I believe that we landed on the moon,
Speaker 2 15:46
and I would also just like to preface and say here, when it comes to instances like the moon landing, that is such a conspiracy topic. Please, for the love of God, let your inside thoughts stay inside thoughts. Please don't let it get released to the press.
Speaker 3 16:03
Shout out Drake May.
Speaker 2 16:05
Shout out Drake May, who does not believe in the moon landing, buddy. I would love to pick your brain on that. So you know, the Divas podcast will be reaching out soon. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3 16:14
we'll reach out to your publicist. We'll
Speaker 2 16:16
reach out to your publicist. Please send us a voice memo. I genuinely want to know.
Speaker 3 16:21
I want to pick your brain on this.
Speaker 2 16:22
Really, I really, really do, and I, and I feel like that goes for so many players. Like I, some of them, I just want to pick their brains. I'm like, this doesn't even. You don't even have to pay me for your time. You don't even have to respond back to me half the time. But if I get something, I, I want to pick your brain, cause there there's something going on in there, especially for the bunch of athletes. They all get dubbed with athletes have no personalities outside of their sport. See, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 16:53
I'm a firm disbeliever. I'm a
Speaker 2 16:55
I'm a firm disbeliever. Actually, like they have personalities. They're just not letting it show. I want to pick that personality out
Speaker 3 17:02
exactly because I mean,
Speaker 2 17:03
one key topic here. Let's talk about Joe Burrow because I mean that man has a personality. You can tell because when his stylist doesn't have him, that man is rocking out in cat T-shirts, and I love that for him. Let's that's personality if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 3 17:21
Shout out Joe Burr.
Speaker 2 17:22
Shout out to you, Joe. We'll also hit up your publicist.
Speaker 3 17:27
And I feel like a reason that we oftentimes don't see our athletes with personalities is going back to the press. They don't ask good questions. Exactly.
Speaker 2 17:40
They're not picking into anything worth a value, and I feel like we should start doing that more. I
Speaker 3 17:47
think we need to bring back outrageously silly questions.
Speaker 2 17:51
You know what? The early 2000s did it so well. Give me back those interviews. You know what? I will bring back those interviews. I'll make them happy. I'll make them good, because I mean, just no personalities. We need better questions. That shows the personality. It's a little insane here. I bring back athlete personalities with good questions of the press,
Speaker 3 18:15
please.
Speaker 2 18:15
But I also feel like something that could attribute to you know no personality from these athletes, is the rise in sports fantasy romance media and the parasocial relationships being built upon people? Let's talk about it. Let's talk about hockey.
Speaker 2 18:33
Let's talk about hockey. Let's talk about how heated rivalry and off campus arguably separate the art from the art, like art of hockey, art of books. We're not dissing these serieses. They're good,
Speaker 3 18:47
they're great,
Speaker 2 18:49
but you can't shove that down the throats of professional athletes. I'm sorry, specifically again, if you're a sports fan of any capacity, the San Jose Sharks are a major victim of this, Will Smith and Macklin Celebrainey, they're victims of this and like incredibly just awful thing. I feel so bad, genuinely, because also you have to think there are some grown adult fans because you think they're Smith and Celebrane. They're only 2021, years old. They're still like kids. They're still kids, actually. Like guys were
Speaker 3 19:27
born two years before us,
Speaker 2 19:29
right? Like guys, we're not hitting adult status until like 25. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. But you have some of these grown adults bringing signs to these games, going down to the glass. That's like, oh, you know the Willmack of it all, the Willmack of it all, like oh are you guys sharing hotel and room numbers with each other? We gotta stop. We gotta put an end to that.
Speaker 3 19:52
So gross.
Speaker 2 19:53
And I feel like that has. Let's go into this topic of women being fans of sports, by the way too. Cause you can be a fan of sports and be a woman. That there's no like thing stopping you from doing that. But the recent obsession of these like new like romances books via sports, like regarding sports in all capacities. Like you have your hockey, football. You have it all.
Speaker 3 20:20
It's all. It's
Speaker 2 20:21
ruining it because then you get all these people who are reading these and thinking this is what it's like. This is obviously the truth, bringing that into the sports sphere, and unintentionally doing such a disservice to women to do this because I'm I'm sorry guys. Whenever I say, "Oh yeah, I'm a fan of sports, I'm always prepared to start answering questions about, "Oh, what are the penalties like? What are what's this call mean? What's that call mean? Who? How did these teams do in these seasons? Purely because so many women become bandwagons because of something. I mean, that could be attributed to hockey with heated rivalries specifically that ruined some service for women fans, but also in football with the Chiefs, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, you had all the Swifties swarm to the Chiefs, not understanding a lick of football, having nothing to go off of, and it created a bad rep. It became such an issue that, like, honestly, the derogatory terms, like specifically, like you know, puck bunny or something, like women being called a puck bunny, so much more normalized. And you can't even fully defend it because you see the evidence for yourself through these actions. And I
Speaker 3 21:38
feel like going back to like the novels and everything-it's not even that these that like like if you read a book about a sport and it's a romance book and you decide like oh I actually kind of like this top like what they're talking about as far as sports I kind of want to get into it get into the sport but don't like take the sexualization of the sport into it with you, because that is with heated rivalry especially, and I have opinions on heated rivalry. I have not watched heated rivalry because of these opinions, because I think heated rivalry did an incredible job of highlighting that there are gay people and queer people in sports, and it it gave them the confidence to come out, which I think is beautiful.
Speaker 2 22:28
That's definitely a big thing.
Speaker 3 22:30
But when I see these, it's not even like young women. Young women are reading these books, and they're like, "Oh, that's awesome! I like that. It's cute. And middle-aged
Speaker 2 22:38
people. It
Speaker 3 22:39
it is primarily
Speaker 2 22:40
like predominantly 35 and up, doing men up,
Speaker 3 22:44
35-year-old women and up, taking these movie, these shows, these movies, these books, these novels, and hypersexualizing these young adult men, and I think that's it's
Speaker 2 22:57
fine with young adult men. These are like practically children still. Let's be honest,
Speaker 3 23:02
because I don't see anybody saying these things about Aaron Rodgers, um, or like other like anyone in their age range. Anyone in their
Speaker 2 23:13
age range, they're not saying it. They're not saying it to them. And PSA, guys, we at Divas on the Ground, we are strong preachers of, please separate the works of fiction to reality. You can enjoy what you want to enjoy. I will never take that away from you. I will never tell you to stop that. But please, if you're going to become a fan,
Speaker 3 23:34
don't be parasocial. Don't
Speaker 2 23:36
be parasocial about it,
Speaker 3 23:37
please.
Speaker 2 23:38
Paraso, parasocial
Speaker 3 23:39
anything is what kills fandoms.
Speaker 2 23:42
It kills fandoms, and then it kills the media because then I I just saw this today. By the way, this is like spurring it up. I saw a GQ article that was done with Celebrini. He recently did it. This was a very bold interviewer that started asking like pretty personal questions about him and Will Smith, and I'm like asking like, oh, is like this happening with you guys? What content hasn't been revealed to the public? And then saying later in the article, oh, I was half expecting to see Will Smith out on the curb waiting to pick him up, but it was just celebrating waiting for a zuber. A, that's so bold. Please, and someone don't give this publisher anything for a while, because that went into the bounds of inappropriate. We shouldn't be asking that. That's not what we need to know.
Speaker 3 24:39
There is an incredibly, not even fine. It is a large line. It's
Speaker 2 24:44
bolded. It is several times.
Speaker 3 24:46
There is a fine. There is a giant line, differentiating between bold questions that actually get you good answers and just being plain weird. In parasocial to these people, and there are plenty of people who are able to ask these bold, kind of outrageous questions without coming across as weird and uncomfortable. We need to remember that these we are interviewing people. These are human beings. Yeah,
Speaker 2 25:15
like let's let's just go with these are people first, athlete second.
Speaker 3 25:20
Right.
Speaker 2 25:20
I know that everyone will always say, "Oh, but they basically sign their right to be in the public eye all the time. They're still people. Like, yes, they're just filmed a lot more than the average person. They're still a person at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 25:33
Right.
Speaker 2 25:34
And parasocial relationships of all capacities, and just this over need to like make something into something it's not.
Speaker 3 25:43
Absolutely,
Speaker 2 25:44
it's killing everything, and that's making people not want to talk to the press because some of these press people are getting just so outrageous in what they're wanting to say and how they're saying it and how they're going about it. It's one thing to be asking like, oh, they because Smith and Celebreni they became roommates during the off season. You can ask how that's going, and not be weird about it, and just kind of make jokes of like, oh, it's just two. It's literally two best friends living together. How's that situation going? Because you know they always say, don't move in with your friends, you'll grow resentment. That whole thing, and then there's asking the questions that have the subtext, not even subtle, just very overt in. So is this a relationship?
Speaker 3 26:28
What's going on here? What's going on? That's gross. These are gross questions, and I also would like to know. I feel like press is kind of dying because a lot of these people are merging, are shifting away from talking to the press and people like Brittany Broski, Mythical Kitchen with their last meals and Nardwar, even I love Nardore. I love him so much. They ask wild and outrageous questions while making it fun and allowing us to see like these people for who they are, and not as objects on a screen. Yeah,
Speaker 2 27:03
they're keeping the person in it. They're humanizing. They're humanizing everyone, and I feel like that's so important because traditional press, I feel like, has been a dying art for a while. Obviously, you know, with the rise of social media and all that. Right. But these, and arguably, most of this old press is with the older crowd. These are your journalists, older journalists. They're more seasoned. They're trying. I feel like it's gotten to the point they're trying so desperately to cling on to staying youthful, staying with like that hot topic, that they're in in a sense killing their own industry here, and that's why it's all getting pushed to social media and these like out like little YouTube things, podcasts, everything, because they it's the new era, and you have to adjust with that. But I feel like we truly need to get younger people into these old press areas, so that they can hopefully, hopefully revitalize the lost art of it. Basically,
Speaker 3 28:09
right? Absolutely. You know,
Speaker 2 28:10
older older journalists, please. And I love.
Speaker 3 28:13
We
Speaker 2 28:13
see you.
Speaker 3 28:15
We see you, and we love you, and we hear you. We respect you. We respect you. We we really respect you. However, it's a thing in a lot of these professional fields where people who can retire choose not to retire, and that takes away opportunity for young people to join. And this is not just a journalism problem. This is an
Speaker 2 28:39
issue in all fields. Is issue in
Speaker 3 28:40
all fields, every
Speaker 2 28:41
field,
Speaker 3 28:42
generally, even
Speaker 2 28:43
your cashier clerk. Some of them should be retired for something. Hopefully, I would say
Speaker 3 28:48
that a lot of like clerks and like older people who work middle like minimum wage jobs either retired and they just want something
Speaker 2 29:00
to do,
Speaker 3 29:01
or economically, yeah, we are in a drought. We're in a terrible economic system right now. We are struggling, which is why we see a lot of like older people going back into the workforce.
Speaker 2 29:17
Yeah,
Speaker 3 29:18
which I think also highlights. why a lot of these older people are not retiring in their professional field, where they have 401k's, they have like high payouts, they have pensions, and they choose to stay because of fear of not having enough after they retire. Yes,
Speaker 2 29:37
and I feel like that it also rounds about to the older generation, they have a there's evidence of a stigma against younger people. They're like, you don't have life experience. Why are you trying to do this? You don't know what you're doing. I know what I'm doing. I'm a seasoned like veteran in this field, guys. Please, we need to kill that stigma so. Bad young people are arguably more equipped to handle the change of the age, especially in journalism, since it's changed so drastically in such a short amount of time. We're, I would say, more equipped in day-to-day life to handle it. So we can learn from you. We can learn from each other. Actually, you can teach us the old press. We can teach you the new press. We could make something beautiful of journalism again, but y'all are being stingy. So I gotta
Speaker 3 30:30
give us chance,
Speaker 2 30:31
right? Like, let me get that internship. Let me get that entry level job. Will something good can happen from this if everyone just work together, guys. World peace, just peace, peace and love, guys. I that's just it's insane, it's crazy, and I promise, guys. I know this sports segment got a little out of wraps, but we'll get more into explaining sports on a different episode. We'll go through that. We'll explain the teams and sort of the unmentioned but known hierarchies of these teams and the leagues themselves. But I mean, that was episode two of Divas on the Ground. I I say we're we're hitting the nail on the head here.
Speaker 3 31:18
I would I would think so.
Speaker 2 31:19
I mean, we're getting fresh content for you guys, so
Speaker 3 31:23
yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure the Drake May thing literally came out today.
Speaker 2 31:26
Yeah, a lot of this has come out today. We're we're your boots on the ground. We're on the ground here. We're we're gonna give you stuff. Well, thank you all so much for listening to episode two, and come back next week to listen to Divas on the Ground.
Speaker 3 31:43
Again, this is Divas on the Ground. I'm River.
Speaker 2 31:46
I'm Jordan, and our missing diva today is Koa. She should be back by next week, so surely
Speaker 3 31:52
she'll be back.
Speaker 2 31:53
You'll get the trio of divas back again, of
Speaker 3 31:55
course.
Speaker 2 31:55
All right, guys. Thanks so much. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 2 0:15
All right. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to episode two of Divas on the ground. Unfortunately, today we are down a diva, so it's a duo today. So you have Jordan and River, and today we're going to be talking about sports, kind of in its general role. We're not going to get too hyper fixated on something specific. We'll leave that for a later episode, but I kind of want to bring up all the leagues right now that are fully running. I mean, MLB's in their playoffs-that's going about as well as everyone's expecting. Unfortunate for certain fans, me with the Chicago Cubs, unfortunately, and then you have the NFL. They're hitting week five this week, and you have hockey, the NHL. You have them starting. They're about a week week and a half deep into their season, but regardless of all that, the bigger issue with the NFL and the NHL, you got some teams who are not performing how they usually have performed in the past for like a decade or two, I mean the Cleveland Browns in the NFL. Why do they have a good record? We'll never know. I mean the Vancouver Canucks. They're also doing pretty good. They were last in the league last year. Let's let's talk about that actually.
Speaker 3 1:35
Let's talk about it a little bit. What's going on with the Raiders? Um, I don't believe in the timeline we're in, where the Raiders were three zero last week, yeah, and they're now three one.
Speaker 2 1:47
Yeah, you know I'm not really loving the fact that it took the Kansas City Chiefs to be the ones to get them down. That's not how this is supposed to work here. No, the Raiders, y'all got the first round draft pick for the season, y'all were bad. You're on the wrong timeline now. You could not have gotten that good that quickly. I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 2:08
I don't believe in this.
Speaker 2 2:09
I don't believe in it. And I mean, if you're a sports bettor or if you're in any sort of fantasy leagues, you're kind of you've kind of been getting screwed over lately because no one's playing how you expect them to play, so either you're losing big money, or you're going for the underdog and you're just stealing every one of cash. Because if you're doing that, teach me your ways and why you're so confident in the underdogs to get that money. How rich are you? What do you do for a job? Hit me up with employment, please.
Speaker 3 2:40
There are too many movies that discuss and highlight the underdogs as the achieving team, and I feel like that's exactly why people root for the underdog so much, even if there isn't usually a high payout from it. Yes,
Speaker 2 2:53
exactly. I mean, guys, I get it. Remember the Titans? Great movie. They're the underdog team there. The
Speaker 3 3:00
Mighty Ducks,
Speaker 2 3:01
the Mighty Ducks miracle. No one was expecting the Olympic ice hockey team for the U.S. to actually, you know, beat the Soviet Union, but you know, people believed. Sometimes belief is not enough, guys. This we're kind of cynical on this show,
Speaker 3 3:16
just a bit,
Speaker 2 3:17
just a bit, but we're realistic.
Speaker 3 3:20
We're honest.
Speaker 2 3:20
We're exactly. We're honest. We're giving you honest opinions, honest deep cuts, honest everything. You, we're not gonna lie to you. We're not gonna sugarcoat it, cause I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 3:34
That's not what divas do.
Speaker 2 3:35
That's not what the divas on the ground do. I mean, if we're on the ground, boots on the ground, journalism, the divas will tell you, and the divas will supply. We're gonna we're gonna give you your info on everything, and I mean, especially going back to the underdog movies and sports, particularly, we can't put that much faith in everything because guys, a lot of people gambling is an addiction, by the way. So keep that in mind when you're doing this. Don't
Speaker 3 4:04
remember that.
Speaker 2 4:04
Please don't bet your mortgage on anything, but people still do that. They still bet mortgages. So it's a little. You're very confident for the underdog team because I mean, personally, the last two weeks, I will admit, on the Athletic via the New York Times, I do my NFL pickums every week, and I take it real serious. I look at stats, I look at injuries, I look at records. I win against the Atlanta Falcons two weeks in a row because they're the Falcons. They haven't had a good season. They haven't been doing good. They screwed me over twice in a row, so I picked them to win this week. So if you guys don't win, you will be getting a letter. Actually, I mean, and then that just there there has to be conspiracy going somewhere. Something has to be happening around the league. It's not great. In the
Speaker 3 4:58
water, they're drinking.
Speaker 2 5:00
The water, not even the water. It's the Powerade, the watered down Powerade. Whatever Patrick Mahomes is sipping on the sidelines in the locker rooms, I don't know, but it's magical for him, I guess.
Speaker 3 5:11
Something's cooking in the underdogs.
Speaker 2 5:13
Something's cooking for them this season. So you know, we might actually get a new Super Bowl matchup. Shocking. If I don't see the Chiefs or the Eagles on my screen in the playoffs, it's gonna be a great time for me. I'm gonna be leaping, jumping for joy.
Speaker 3 5:27
Can we please, please, please, please, with a cherry on top, get a new Super Bowl pairing? Please be tired.
Speaker 2 5:34
Please, for the love of God, it's been the same for like five years. I don't let
Speaker 3 5:38
it be the Raiders.
Speaker 2 5:40
Please, please actually don't let it be the Raiders. I mean, you know, support them for you know local team and all, but in my rights as a sports fan in general, I I can't do that. I mean, it's it's too in my blood as a Bronco fan. I can't do it. I'll support them from the sideline if they're playing the Chiefs, and I'll support them then.
Speaker 3 5:58
Right. Only then.
Speaker 2 6:00
Only then, I there's limits, there's levels,
Speaker 3 6:03
there's levels to this,
Speaker 2 6:04
there's levels to this.
Speaker 3 6:05
I'm not willing to stoop down to enjoy the Raiders, and this is coming from somebody who is a fan of another relatively crappy team, the Dallas Cowboys. Now, this is a generational fan fandom in my family, so I'm I'm like I'm in it, you know. But you know what? Maybe it maybe it will be our year. It won't be, but maybe.
Speaker 2 6:30
Okay, and that's coming from you know the Toronto Maple Leafs of the NFL. It's always your year, isn't it? Okay, it's always your year. But I mean, let's also just look at that hockey season just started. We're fresh on it. Like we've played maybe, I say four or five games for most teams. We're starting to hit our six now, I believe, somewhere around there. It's very, it's very low. We just started like two weeks in, pretty early still. And I mean, some teams are performing how you're not expecting them to, and then you also have some of your newest draft picks that got a lot of media attention lately. First overall, Gavin McKenna. I mean, we all-if you know hockey-we all know how brutal the Toronto media is surrounding the Maple Leafs. It's crazy. It's insane. And to think that you know barely a couple games in, and some like 18 year old kid is already getting called a draft bust is insane, right? Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 7:29
That is insane.
Speaker 2 7:30
And then you had second overall pick Evar Stenberg, who went to the San Jose Sharks. You can see the stark difference in media surrounding hockey from two totally different like areas and demographics. Evros Denberg, he's a darling down there. They love him. They love him down. He's media darling over here. They're loving him. He's treated like everyone's little kid brother. Gavin McKenna is through the trenches right now. He just got his first NHL goal, I think last night. Yeah, last night he bagged his first goal. That's the only thing that got them to start changing their tune. He had to produce in order to get some sort of respect, even after going first overall. And you know, as a rising journalist, hoping and praying to get into sports media, I honestly hate that.
Speaker 3 8:21
Yeah,
Speaker 2 8:23
like it's weird.
Speaker 3 8:25
It is really weird to see like somebody so fresh not be like recognized for their skill for making it to the NHL to making it to professional like professional sports in general. The chance of that is so small, and to like be on a team and not be seen from the fans until you put out like,
Speaker 2 8:51
like basically until you're producing something, you're just not recognized, and then you just get trashed in media all the time. Like that, I don't think people realize how much mental strength you need to actually go into professional sports because you can block things all you want, you can block accounts all you want, you like you can make it just noise. But if you hear it enough, it keeps getting into you, and I feel like that's also seen across like oh dynamic duos. Like one is always getting like fawned after, and the others like oh an afterthought. They're always just there, even though they're both equally as talented and have different strengths to them. I feel
Speaker 3 9:30
as though the press forgets how damaging that they can be, or maybe not forget, but they don't pay attention to how damaging the words they say towards athletes, towards any sort of person in the spotlight. They're not mindful in general.
Speaker 2 9:49
They're not mindful of it. They're
Speaker 4 9:50
not.
Speaker 2 9:51
They don't take into account, and that's what gives a lot of journalists a bad rep. Also, second thing that gives them a bad rep. Guys, we gotta we gotta switch up our questions so that we're asking athletes. You can only ask how many so many times. How do you think the offense could be better when you're down like 40 nothing in a football game or down two nothing at the end of a period? Sometimes we have to ask questions layered in a different way, get different answers out here. Because I'm sorry, guys. Let's run it back to after the Winter Olympics this year. One of the first questions out of an interviewer's mouth to Macklin Celebrini, like upon his return, was, and I quote here, "Would you return? Like, would you want to go back to the Olympics? Let's think about this.
Speaker 3 10:41
I feel I remember this clip, and if I remember correctly, Celebreni looked so like
Speaker 2 10:47
perplexed, right? Like
Speaker 3 10:49
that's such an obvious yes answer.
Speaker 2 10:52
And you know what? We got a little bit of you know Bratlin in that. He was a little. He was a he was a fellow diva for that. He, and I feel like I can tell that you can tell when athletes don't want to talk to the press. It's very obvious, and they're only doing it out of their contractual obligation. Obviously, I get it. You don't want to talk to some people after you're doing this. Like you could have the worst game of your life and still be pulled from media. I totally understand that, but the journalists and the press are not making it any easier or any better. If you keep asking these types of questions or keep asking the same types of questions, the players slowly start to hate you. You get the same fabricated answers. You're never gonna get your good article going. And I feel like that's also how a lot of athletes then get bad reps of oh they're just they're so dismissive like they're not talking to anybody. What do you expect them to do when they keep getting asked how can it be better? What did what went what went wrong? What happened? Right. How can we generate something?
Speaker 3 11:59
It's questions that are hard to answer in a given moment as well. Yeah, like these are things that have to be overviewed and analyzed before actually making changes. And like another thing with journalism and like the press conferences and everything, it's the same fabricated responses because they athletes want to see something new. Athletes don't like being asked the same five questions over and over and over again after every single game.
Speaker 2 12:26
Yes. Oh my god. And I feel like that's another reason why I want to get into sports media so bad. I'm like, please. I have good questions I want to ask you guys. Like, there are some things that I feel like aren't even touched on long enough, because especially with the Raiders this season, they're off to a great start. As much as it pains some people to say it, they're doing great. They're looking good. They have, they have some sort of method down and locked for themselves. I feel like a very good question, an important question for them would be, do you think a difference in locker room environment has influenced how you're now playing on the field? Because like now you're starting to feel like you want to be around each other, you like each other. Before you were barely coworkers. Y'all did not like each other, and you you can tell. Do you like? I feel like could that be attributed to the rise in the social admins being around and doing like the different challenges with the team, because then that gets you to like start laughing together and like going through. Like,
Speaker 3 13:33
could a problem of a lot of these like quote unquote crappy teams be because there isn't a lot of like bonding amongst the crew. Question mark.
Speaker 2 13:44
It definitely could be. I think because I mean, I I used to play sports, so you know you get that team environment. If you're on a constant losing streak, it's hard to want to be around people after that, especially if you, shamelessly saying, were one of the ones who had to help carry the team in a sense, and you notice that, like, I mean, I'm gonna touch on personal experience here. I had a game where we lost so bad it was god awful. I was crying on, I was crying coming off the field there, like tears running down my face, almost sobbing until I got to the car, and then I saw a bunch of teammates running around giggling, playing tag with each other. That's not gonna, you know, inspire me to want to go hang out with them because it feels like they don't care. So that could definitely be a portion of the, in lamest terms to say here, the crappy teams of leagues-they're not getting that bonding because you genuinely just don't want to be around people after losing like that. And then also, you'll know you're not good company, so why just basically build up resentment against each other? I feel like that. That's a great thing too. I mean, but that's also to get away from such you know sad topic there. That was a little depressing. God, let's talk about
Speaker 3 15:14
the moon landing.
Speaker 2 15:15
Yeah. So, do you believe in the moon landing? Do you think we got to the moon in the '60s? Did we win the space race?
Speaker 3 15:27
Pardon my silence. I'm gathering my thoughts. Um, so I can see why people may or may not believe that the moon landing didn't happen. Um, how? I am a firm believer of science. I believe that we landed on the moon,
Speaker 2 15:46
and I would also just like to preface and say here, when it comes to instances like the moon landing, that is such a conspiracy topic. Please, for the love of God, let your inside thoughts stay inside thoughts. Please don't let it get released to the press.
Speaker 3 16:03
Shout out Drake May.
Speaker 2 16:05
Shout out Drake May, who does not believe in the moon landing, buddy. I would love to pick your brain on that. So you know, the Divas podcast will be reaching out soon. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3 16:14
we'll reach out to your publicist. We'll
Speaker 2 16:16
reach out to your publicist. Please send us a voice memo. I genuinely want to know.
Speaker 3 16:21
I want to pick your brain on this.
Speaker 2 16:22
Really, I really, really do, and I, and I feel like that goes for so many players. Like I, some of them, I just want to pick their brains. I'm like, this doesn't even. You don't even have to pay me for your time. You don't even have to respond back to me half the time. But if I get something, I, I want to pick your brain, cause there there's something going on in there, especially for the bunch of athletes. They all get dubbed with athletes have no personalities outside of their sport. See, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 16:53
I'm a firm disbeliever. I'm a
Speaker 2 16:55
I'm a firm disbeliever. Actually, like they have personalities. They're just not letting it show. I want to pick that personality out
Speaker 3 17:02
exactly because I mean,
Speaker 2 17:03
one key topic here. Let's talk about Joe Burrow because I mean that man has a personality. You can tell because when his stylist doesn't have him, that man is rocking out in cat T-shirts, and I love that for him. Let's that's personality if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 3 17:21
Shout out Joe Burr.
Speaker 2 17:22
Shout out to you, Joe. We'll also hit up your publicist.
Speaker 3 17:27
And I feel like a reason that we oftentimes don't see our athletes with personalities is going back to the press. They don't ask good questions. Exactly.
Speaker 2 17:40
They're not picking into anything worth a value, and I feel like we should start doing that more. I
Speaker 3 17:47
think we need to bring back outrageously silly questions.
Speaker 2 17:51
You know what? The early 2000s did it so well. Give me back those interviews. You know what? I will bring back those interviews. I'll make them happy. I'll make them good, because I mean, just no personalities. We need better questions. That shows the personality. It's a little insane here. I bring back athlete personalities with good questions of the press,
Speaker 3 18:15
please.
Speaker 2 18:15
But I also feel like something that could attribute to you know no personality from these athletes, is the rise in sports fantasy romance media and the parasocial relationships being built upon people? Let's talk about it. Let's talk about hockey.
Speaker 2 18:33
Let's talk about hockey. Let's talk about how heated rivalry and off campus arguably separate the art from the art, like art of hockey, art of books. We're not dissing these serieses. They're good,
Speaker 3 18:47
they're great,
Speaker 2 18:49
but you can't shove that down the throats of professional athletes. I'm sorry, specifically again, if you're a sports fan of any capacity, the San Jose Sharks are a major victim of this, Will Smith and Macklin Celebrainey, they're victims of this and like incredibly just awful thing. I feel so bad, genuinely, because also you have to think there are some grown adult fans because you think they're Smith and Celebrane. They're only 2021, years old. They're still like kids. They're still kids, actually. Like guys were
Speaker 3 19:27
born two years before us,
Speaker 2 19:29
right? Like guys, we're not hitting adult status until like 25. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. But you have some of these grown adults bringing signs to these games, going down to the glass. That's like, oh, you know the Willmack of it all, the Willmack of it all, like oh are you guys sharing hotel and room numbers with each other? We gotta stop. We gotta put an end to that.
Speaker 3 19:52
So gross.
Speaker 2 19:53
And I feel like that has. Let's go into this topic of women being fans of sports, by the way too. Cause you can be a fan of sports and be a woman. That there's no like thing stopping you from doing that. But the recent obsession of these like new like romances books via sports, like regarding sports in all capacities. Like you have your hockey, football. You have it all.
Speaker 3 20:20
It's all. It's
Speaker 2 20:21
ruining it because then you get all these people who are reading these and thinking this is what it's like. This is obviously the truth, bringing that into the sports sphere, and unintentionally doing such a disservice to women to do this because I'm I'm sorry guys. Whenever I say, "Oh yeah, I'm a fan of sports, I'm always prepared to start answering questions about, "Oh, what are the penalties like? What are what's this call mean? What's that call mean? Who? How did these teams do in these seasons? Purely because so many women become bandwagons because of something. I mean, that could be attributed to hockey with heated rivalries specifically that ruined some service for women fans, but also in football with the Chiefs, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, you had all the Swifties swarm to the Chiefs, not understanding a lick of football, having nothing to go off of, and it created a bad rep. It became such an issue that, like, honestly, the derogatory terms, like specifically, like you know, puck bunny or something, like women being called a puck bunny, so much more normalized. And you can't even fully defend it because you see the evidence for yourself through these actions. And I
Speaker 3 21:38
feel like going back to like the novels and everything-it's not even that these that like like if you read a book about a sport and it's a romance book and you decide like oh I actually kind of like this top like what they're talking about as far as sports I kind of want to get into it get into the sport but don't like take the sexualization of the sport into it with you, because that is with heated rivalry especially, and I have opinions on heated rivalry. I have not watched heated rivalry because of these opinions, because I think heated rivalry did an incredible job of highlighting that there are gay people and queer people in sports, and it it gave them the confidence to come out, which I think is beautiful.
Speaker 2 22:28
That's definitely a big thing.
Speaker 3 22:30
But when I see these, it's not even like young women. Young women are reading these books, and they're like, "Oh, that's awesome! I like that. It's cute. And middle-aged
Speaker 2 22:38
people. It
Speaker 3 22:39
it is primarily
Speaker 2 22:40
like predominantly 35 and up, doing men up,
Speaker 3 22:44
35-year-old women and up, taking these movie, these shows, these movies, these books, these novels, and hypersexualizing these young adult men, and I think that's it's
Speaker 2 22:57
fine with young adult men. These are like practically children still. Let's be honest,
Speaker 3 23:02
because I don't see anybody saying these things about Aaron Rodgers, um, or like other like anyone in their age range. Anyone in their
Speaker 2 23:13
age range, they're not saying it. They're not saying it to them. And PSA, guys, we at Divas on the Ground, we are strong preachers of, please separate the works of fiction to reality. You can enjoy what you want to enjoy. I will never take that away from you. I will never tell you to stop that. But please, if you're going to become a fan,
Speaker 3 23:34
don't be parasocial. Don't
Speaker 2 23:36
be parasocial about it,
Speaker 3 23:37
please.
Speaker 2 23:38
Paraso, parasocial
Speaker 3 23:39
anything is what kills fandoms.
Speaker 2 23:42
It kills fandoms, and then it kills the media because then I I just saw this today. By the way, this is like spurring it up. I saw a GQ article that was done with Celebrini. He recently did it. This was a very bold interviewer that started asking like pretty personal questions about him and Will Smith, and I'm like asking like, oh, is like this happening with you guys? What content hasn't been revealed to the public? And then saying later in the article, oh, I was half expecting to see Will Smith out on the curb waiting to pick him up, but it was just celebrating waiting for a zuber. A, that's so bold. Please, and someone don't give this publisher anything for a while, because that went into the bounds of inappropriate. We shouldn't be asking that. That's not what we need to know.
Speaker 3 24:39
There is an incredibly, not even fine. It is a large line. It's
Speaker 2 24:44
bolded. It is several times.
Speaker 3 24:46
There is a fine. There is a giant line, differentiating between bold questions that actually get you good answers and just being plain weird. In parasocial to these people, and there are plenty of people who are able to ask these bold, kind of outrageous questions without coming across as weird and uncomfortable. We need to remember that these we are interviewing people. These are human beings. Yeah,
Speaker 2 25:15
like let's let's just go with these are people first, athlete second.
Speaker 3 25:20
Right.
Speaker 2 25:20
I know that everyone will always say, "Oh, but they basically sign their right to be in the public eye all the time. They're still people. Like, yes, they're just filmed a lot more than the average person. They're still a person at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 25:33
Right.
Speaker 2 25:34
And parasocial relationships of all capacities, and just this over need to like make something into something it's not.
Speaker 3 25:43
Absolutely,
Speaker 2 25:44
it's killing everything, and that's making people not want to talk to the press because some of these press people are getting just so outrageous in what they're wanting to say and how they're saying it and how they're going about it. It's one thing to be asking like, oh, they because Smith and Celebreni they became roommates during the off season. You can ask how that's going, and not be weird about it, and just kind of make jokes of like, oh, it's just two. It's literally two best friends living together. How's that situation going? Because you know they always say, don't move in with your friends, you'll grow resentment. That whole thing, and then there's asking the questions that have the subtext, not even subtle, just very overt in. So is this a relationship?
Speaker 3 26:28
What's going on here? What's going on? That's gross. These are gross questions, and I also would like to know. I feel like press is kind of dying because a lot of these people are merging, are shifting away from talking to the press and people like Brittany Broski, Mythical Kitchen with their last meals and Nardwar, even I love Nardore. I love him so much. They ask wild and outrageous questions while making it fun and allowing us to see like these people for who they are, and not as objects on a screen. Yeah,
Speaker 2 27:03
they're keeping the person in it. They're humanizing. They're humanizing everyone, and I feel like that's so important because traditional press, I feel like, has been a dying art for a while. Obviously, you know, with the rise of social media and all that. Right. But these, and arguably, most of this old press is with the older crowd. These are your journalists, older journalists. They're more seasoned. They're trying. I feel like it's gotten to the point they're trying so desperately to cling on to staying youthful, staying with like that hot topic, that they're in in a sense killing their own industry here, and that's why it's all getting pushed to social media and these like out like little YouTube things, podcasts, everything, because they it's the new era, and you have to adjust with that. But I feel like we truly need to get younger people into these old press areas, so that they can hopefully, hopefully revitalize the lost art of it. Basically,
Speaker 3 28:09
right? Absolutely. You know,
Speaker 2 28:10
older older journalists, please. And I love.
Speaker 3 28:13
We
Speaker 2 28:13
see you.
Speaker 3 28:15
We see you, and we love you, and we hear you. We respect you. We respect you. We we really respect you. However, it's a thing in a lot of these professional fields where people who can retire choose not to retire, and that takes away opportunity for young people to join. And this is not just a journalism problem. This is an
Speaker 2 28:39
issue in all fields. Is issue in
Speaker 3 28:40
all fields, every
Speaker 2 28:41
field,
Speaker 3 28:42
generally, even
Speaker 2 28:43
your cashier clerk. Some of them should be retired for something. Hopefully, I would say
Speaker 3 28:48
that a lot of like clerks and like older people who work middle like minimum wage jobs either retired and they just want something
Speaker 2 29:00
to do,
Speaker 3 29:01
or economically, yeah, we are in a drought. We're in a terrible economic system right now. We are struggling, which is why we see a lot of like older people going back into the workforce.
Speaker 2 29:17
Yeah,
Speaker 3 29:18
which I think also highlights. why a lot of these older people are not retiring in their professional field, where they have 401k's, they have like high payouts, they have pensions, and they choose to stay because of fear of not having enough after they retire. Yes,
Speaker 2 29:37
and I feel like that it also rounds about to the older generation, they have a there's evidence of a stigma against younger people. They're like, you don't have life experience. Why are you trying to do this? You don't know what you're doing. I know what I'm doing. I'm a seasoned like veteran in this field, guys. Please, we need to kill that stigma so. Bad young people are arguably more equipped to handle the change of the age, especially in journalism, since it's changed so drastically in such a short amount of time. We're, I would say, more equipped in day-to-day life to handle it. So we can learn from you. We can learn from each other. Actually, you can teach us the old press. We can teach you the new press. We could make something beautiful of journalism again, but y'all are being stingy. So I gotta
Speaker 3 30:30
give us chance,
Speaker 2 30:31
right? Like, let me get that internship. Let me get that entry level job. Will something good can happen from this if everyone just work together, guys. World peace, just peace, peace and love, guys. I that's just it's insane, it's crazy, and I promise, guys. I know this sports segment got a little out of wraps, but we'll get more into explaining sports on a different episode. We'll go through that. We'll explain the teams and sort of the unmentioned but known hierarchies of these teams and the leagues themselves. But I mean, that was episode two of Divas on the Ground. I I say we're we're hitting the nail on the head here.
Speaker 3 31:18
I would I would think so.
Speaker 2 31:19
I mean, we're getting fresh content for you guys, so
Speaker 3 31:23
yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure the Drake May thing literally came out today.
Speaker 2 31:26
Yeah, a lot of this has come out today. We're we're your boots on the ground. We're on the ground here. We're we're gonna give you stuff. Well, thank you all so much for listening to episode two, and come back next week to listen to Divas on the Ground.
Speaker 3 31:43
Again, this is Divas on the Ground. I'm River.
Speaker 2 31:46
I'm Jordan, and our missing diva today is Koa. She should be back by next week, so surely
Speaker 3 31:52
she'll be back.
Speaker 2 31:53
You'll get the trio of divas back again, of
Speaker 3 31:55
course.
Speaker 2 31:55
All right, guys. Thanks so much. Thank you.
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