Dbacks Dispatch: Definition of Insanity l Torey Lovullo Returns as Dbacks Manager

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[SPEAKER_08]: Good evening, D-Bax fans.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Welcome on into the first off season edition here of D-Bax Dispatch.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know it's not technically off season.
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[SPEAKER_08]: There's still play-up baseball to be played, but it is for us because we are not in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So gentlemen,
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[SPEAKER_08]: Welcome in.
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[SPEAKER_08]: How's the the first week of no devack space ball on our TV?
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[SPEAKER_08]: And since the All-Star break, you know, kind of feel whether it's better sweet, good, bad, whatever the, what's the feelings like been watching all these other teams participate in the dance?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been super boring, like I don't know what to do with myself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like at least there's playoff baseball along, like which I don't, I do obviously like I love watching baseball, but it's not like I'm tuned in to every single pitch the way I would be if it was a dime back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like fillies and braze.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when we love those games, I've been just straight up low out, so it's not something we were just like, oh man, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the 8th or 19th inning in tight games, so like that, a lot of these have been blown out, so it hasn't really been too much fun to watch anyways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We will be missing at least this whole ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's football on Monday, Thursday, Sunday, so it's not great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I-I-I-I-I-I-I.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And especially with the Cardinals as we know as bad as they are too, I'm not a college football person at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the worst products in some work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think so either, I guess it's fun, it's like, I'm just really really proud on that one, it's not the worst product.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think, yeah, I think you can be fun, I just, okay, I'll refrain, it's not one of the worst products.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I just think that unless you're watching one of the bigger matchups, it can be very boring, like,
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know of their sport, you're going to get a school, even ASU facing them.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, Morgan State, like you just, I get you pay these teams.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's basically they're getting a preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's just, most of the games are just joke schedules and defense is horrible.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a horrible product that's being played.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a fun environment to watch it, but I just, not for me.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'll watch some games in there.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Not for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I went to one ASU game like years ago, it was just fun, just because of the crowd and everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I was at the crowds of great, like I wish that's called the crowd that would bring to actual our professional sports leagues, but yeah, it's just, but nothing else, until you know, I'm like I'm struggling, like by seven when all the games are over, like playing games and like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do I do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do I normally do with my life and there's no baseball on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, right now, I've just been trying to find some shows.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Then that took the gathering.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's what you do.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You didn't imagine the gathering?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might have to get some sort of card game or something, but because yeah, all I've been watching is just like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't just try to find anything that can be watched right now and a lot of stuff that I just rewatched.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did it before the season started, so right now I'm a little bored.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll probably just rewatch, go more girls from that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a ten of the ten of the season right now.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, if you have a HPO, I highly recommend it right to Stamson's.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a phenomenal game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch the show last year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's it's great show me.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's what we put on the the other night when we're playing some uh, why if we're playing some magic late night while our son asleep asleep and I was like, man, this is such a good show.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But uh, Brandon, what about you, my man?
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[SPEAKER_08]: How's the uh, the first week of no debug space, well, been and how are you adjusting to having to, you know, kind of like we gave us mentioning, fill in the hours that you used to be filled about watching the snakes play.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I still watch Playout Baseball because I do have one team with a vested interest that you cannot eat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When we had someone in our Discord ass today, if Audrey's in Dodgers make the NLCS, who are you rooting for, I didn't even make a comment because everyone should know who my vested interest is.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in a loving way, he'll, he'll, he'll ever just don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is for a lot of deback fans like I know I'll probably get shit for it saying I, I'm rooting for the pot, uh, podries and divisional opponent.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I do at least have a bite because you have a real reason to be a fan of them.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You're not just like, oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Good for baseball, and then with no, no, like, yeah, I can name players like Mark Loretta, Sean Burrows, like players like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm not talking about for nanodotis, many much shadow, like players that have been playing since 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can name players before 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: which is where a lot of the internet fan base a part of your fans came from.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was the around 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I get why Brett hates that fan base.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really do, because they are obnoxious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't really know ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you like, you listen to some of things they say, or look at some of things they say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, what do you leave, like, you're just giving your fan base a terrible name?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like Brett has said, numerous times, every fan base has those bad seeds.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just make it look bad for the rest of the fan base.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, but man, did I love to start a game one against the cups?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was pretty freaking odd.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like, for it is hate is electric.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's why hate rooting in supporters because their home crowd, their home environment, is very fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I imagine in like any other fans, it's not a fan of the NOS, they don't give a shit the podgers win.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So they're like, all right, cool.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like, you know, I'm okay with them winning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like, it's, it's a very exciting environment or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mean when they've been bad, it's a pretty electric, I remember, now it was kid, like, when Adrian was all as was there, whenever he would hit him on, like, the people would go crazy to him or Mac camp or where it was Mac camp, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was there before.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He was around 20, I think he was there 20, 14 or 15.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That was the year before we did the the Grinky Deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was Adrian Gonzalez, like every time you would aid on a run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be like the crowd will go crazy and I just hated him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So once you went to Boston, like I'll think of, thank God, we don't have him here anymore.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so I can definitely understand where Brandon least even the same with Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, I've been watching play out baseball, but can I as gave him mentioned before, I mean, all of us are going to watch play out baseball, but it has been very
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[SPEAKER_08]: As they should, 81 win team making the playoffs, my God.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's just, and getting a home series too, I'm glad the Widesawks beat them up, but hey, you know what, as much as we talk, which I know we'll talk about here, at least mentioned in tonight's episode, as much as we talk about the D-Bax playoff droughts, not making the playoffs, you know, missing out on the playoffs yet again.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It could be worse, the Widesawks beat in the Astros, and that one, that was their first playoff series win.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Since their 2005 World Series victory.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So 21 years that he wouldn't eat a single series in the playoffs and they've gone what like four or five times since then.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I think in their franchises history, I think they've gone a fracture of the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I don't really think I have like two or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't fire up in this year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they don't have a lot of playoff success.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So it could always be worse.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not making excuses, which I know that is a word that will be thrown around.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a nice show at least a few times.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We're not making excuses, but sometimes you have to try to look at it with the brighter side of you and not be a sad about it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Surprisingly enough, we actually got some D-backs news.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I guess you could say surprising.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know we would be at least hearing some news regarding this.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As we expect with the season winding down, doing the eyes and interviews, you know, they always do the postseason or the end of season press conference with the manager, general manager,
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[SPEAKER_08]: they usually talk with Ken Kendrick, we'll have a bunch of notes about each one of them, but we'll start with the big snooze of them.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it was a name that has been talked about.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, we spent a good majority of our episode last week talking about, you know, the the D-Bax managerial or managerial decisions with Tori Lavolo are thoughts on potentially bringing him back to be think that they should, you know, continue with him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Do you think that with the lockout looming that there's a real possibility that they go to somebody else or do they just stick with him?
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[SPEAKER_08]: We got our answer to that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Actually, what two days ago, where yesterday was, we got a confirmation that Torla Velo is actually going to be staying in the desert.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He got a two-year extension on his contract, sorry, a two-year deal, I should say, as a John Gamodoro from a, it was at 90, 98.7 sports, 97 sports.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I don't listen to the radio session of the numbers, but
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I'm shouldn't call him Gambo, if you guys don't know him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Gambo says, Torla Volo has agreed to a two year contract, the year's on a dime actually with a slight raise.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Elavolo turned down an option here in the contract.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The contract got done this morning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Lavolo did not know what direction the dime actually were going to go until Monday when they informed him they wanted to keep him at that time.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to say that LaVolo's original contract expires on October 31st, so he was not able to speak with anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The last part of that was mostly because on the line people were saying they're like there's a lot of mariner fans and a lot of you know things saying oh Torlubolo could be you know the mariner's choice if it comes to replacing their manager Dan Wilson If they want to do that, but obviously he wasn't a free agent quote unquote because the contract didn't fully expire and they do extend him so
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[SPEAKER_08]: We mentioned a lot less episode on our thoughts, you know, but see by the way.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We mentioned a lot of our thoughts last week about whether we should bring back to World of All, I know a lot of this fan base isn't happy.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know we even said it before last week's episode and before, you know, even during last week's that this has been more of the best years managerial wise for the level of like in game decision making.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like I think he's really, you know, put it all together and how does best year actually on the field making those decisions.
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[SPEAKER_08]: until that Saturday game that even we said I feel like he kind of undied all the good, but you know, he's back, he's returned, there's nothing we can do about it, there's no point in, you know, pulling a donny broke and being just constantly thinking about towards the ballow and pretty sure he has an actual apartment in that guy's head.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But he is back, nothing we can do about it, and I want to pass it on to you, Gabe, and just get your general thoughts, initial reactions where you surprise that he was returning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Are you kind of like, oh, wow, this is going to bring him until Mike Hazen's contract is expired.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So, like, I'm not too surprised.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And what are your thoughts in general about Twirlvolo remaining the D-Bax manager, at least through the 20, 20, eight season?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't surprised because clearly the dynamics that already made the decision because as well as the Thursday or so, suddenly every single local media was covering that, you know, covering that, the totability, and they're all saying, thoroughly, almost worked for word, bar for bar, this is actually the most, the best, the best season, the Toria's managed, and Toria's been in a great manager to season, and look at the numbers, and
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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like an all-out media blitz about how great of a manager Tori was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so at that point I was like, okay, they're bringing it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No matter what happens, he can lose his next, I guess it would have been five games in a row, and they're still going to bring him back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no consequences, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that you fail eight out of 10 times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know any other job where you can fail and not meet expectations, 80% of the time and you still keep it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I want to keep it, but you get paid more for more years to do the job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, like I for the most part, I said the haze and was most of the issue this year, I think but still like their pair, their dual, the hand and we got rid of haze and that just to would have had the toy issue, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just one of those things where I'm like, I can't do anything for these next two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I probably won't even complain about Tori these next couple of seasons, you know, because what does it really complain about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is contract, it's guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you didn't get fired in 2021 for that, ardent and ten lost team, then he's never going to get fired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: just expect a lifetime contract to come at some point because it's just kind of the way things are going to keep going, at least until Ken Kendrick, Brutiers or Dias or something like, it's just the way things are going to keep rolling like we have a clip about him talking about that and even could tell I believe as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just my initial thoughts were like, yeah, of course, that's just kind of the way it is and it was frustrating but at the same time I'm like, I guess I mean the players like him and that's really true the main thing is just the players have a good relationship with them so can do, you know, yeah, I'm not going to complain too much about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like obviously they, everyone always says they would run through a brick wall for him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were saying the same thing about money Williams and they were saying the same thing on Molly went, Monti Williams getting picked up by another team and which by the way Monti Williams sounded like a five year deal with Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You only made it one year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The first year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they did for Monti though.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's got a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's he's a little just a laughing act life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: when everyone's and I remember they all everyone said the exact same thing and I go, the sons can't do better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Money Williams is the best coach that they have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's share with the players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Same exacting to say about Lebello and then, you know, he goes up to a different other team and gets sacked immediately.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just, I feel like almost like that, a Melania Trump sweater or jacket that you just have,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I care, but also I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, whatever, it was just teams going to fail next season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to fail 20, 28 has well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, everyone talks about the, the fact that, you know, with the lockout, you don't want to make too much of a change.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This team has had a lockout, and this team has failed in that lockout season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were 25 and 35.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hayes had to sell up everybody because of the team failed, and I posted on Twitter, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: The record through 100 games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This team is a 500 team or even slightly below 500 and those first 100 games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this team might end up being way out of a playoff spot, you know, next season.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I kind of agree with you that I'm not surprised, especially considering, you know, I think it's been talked about all year, considering with this, you know, looming over the below of like, oh, this is last year if they don't make the playoffs all that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But the fact that, you know, Hayes and was still in their contract for for a few more years,
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, a lot of times if it was a hazen, that was going to be let go and then I think it's pretty easy to be like, yeah, it's always probably gone because usually a new GM coming in is going to get rid of the current manager and install like a new regime, which is I feel like kind of the set, you know, standard.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So the fact that the hazen was going to be there for a few more years, I'm not necessarily surprised.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Um, I will say that like again, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm not going to say this team is not going to be next year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think that, I mean, we see that we saw what this team did, um, like, as I mentioned before, I think Tori did a great job of getting a lot out of the team, uh, considering the roster construction there was.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Doesn't deserve all the credit.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, the players, those are credit for actually being on the reform.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're the ones doing it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But I will say that, you know, as you mentioned, most of this does go on Hazen, and I would be very interested to see if, you know, if we do get 2027 or at least, you know, knowing that we hopefully get 2028, if Hazen can actually, you know, build a proper team and give him better pieces to work with, maybe we can actually see the culmination of Tory and his on field management along with the better roster to go with and maybe this will finally be a 90 plus scene when again, maybe we'll see them, you know, lock down.
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[SPEAKER_08]: uh... another wildcars bond not just sneak into the wild card but actually have maybe the one of the top two spots whatever might be i'm i'm still believe in them uh... and like i i think that there's a chance but it's definitely one of those were if we also missed the playoffs by gamer two for an eighty-win team next year
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[SPEAKER_08]: At the same time, I'm not going to be surprised because at this point, we can pretty much expect that least 75 wins anywhere between 85 wins in that range.
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[SPEAKER_08]: If we get over that, I'm surprised.
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[SPEAKER_08]: If we get under that, I'm actually very shocked.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So it's one of those where it's kind of like you said, it's going to care.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But at the same time, eh, you know, there's not really much, you know, who in all of them we can really do is a fan base anymore.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The only way he would get fired next year is that this team wins only 50 games.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And if we get a full season obviously, but
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think I don't think we have a roster that bad thankfully, but Brandon, I'm going to pass it on to you now, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Before as yours, what are your initial thoughts on the news of Torlvullo coming back as a DMX manager and being standing with a little bit of a longer contract and your thoughts in general on where this team kind of stands committing to him for a few more years?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't surprised just because he keeps doing just enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's doing just enough to kind of keep his job.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's winning just enough games that Ken Kendrick is probably happy with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, they're playing meaningful baseball games in Ken Kendrick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably good enough for him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, he would like to make a play.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, every team would like to make a playoff's, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_04]: assist in making that a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I've said, and I said the last few months, especially after the trade deadline, Mike Hazen failed completely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Hazen even said it, like, Hazen's comments when he was on, I think, looking wolf on yesterday was, yeah, we were 10 games over 500, but that doesn't matter, this season's a failure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you have to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, am I happy that toy's back, not really?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we've seen plenty of examples and still what kind of a manager that he is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a middle of the road manager.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not a fantastic manager.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not the worst manager, like a lot of Twitter says.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's like, I won't say he's the worst manager in Major League Baseball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, you only watched the dial-in-backs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do you know that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you watching all 30 teams?
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[SPEAKER_04]: To know who actually is the worst manager?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But that's just people being very emotional about their baseball team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: which is completely fine and understandable.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But he's not a top five manager, he's not a bottom five manager, I put him right in the middle, like around 15 probably.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's an okay manager.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You see him make decisions and you're just like, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, like that just that makes no sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he has those wonders, but then he also makes some,
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[SPEAKER_04]: decent, I won't say great decisions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's ever, especially this past season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he made any great decisions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just didn't make any awful decisions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously, he made one sub-part decision with Jose Carrera and that second-to-last game of the sub-part is a very nice way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Trying to be nice there.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We don't have any of the badges that are going to be pulled away from us, so you don't get away with that thing too nice, you know, we always have to take into the way, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know, it's just...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, like you said, this is probably going to be a 75 85 1 team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is like they're going to do, they're going to do just enough, because they do have still a lot of guys coming back that are really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Both pin may not be as good next year, unless Hazen is able to bring back some of these guys or find some other guys to fill those roles, because that was the one thing he did
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[SPEAKER_04]: He got lucky when he signed up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: When he started to say the credit more goes towards Jeremy Black and the actual, you know, like some of the other scouts and the department and not just Hayes and like, yes, he's the one that gets him to agree to terms, but who's to say that, you know, Black, some of these other guys aren't like, oh, hey, go get Corrio, go get Dennis Santana, you know, go get some of these other names, go get Derek Law, and like, we're just giving Hayes and Credit because I don't know if he actually deserves the credit for putting this bullpen together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it depends on what we have next year, like if we bring in completely different guys with the same same success, then I will say yeah, it was a Jeremy Blake for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if a lot of these guys go somewhere else, could it also be on Kaplan?
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[SPEAKER_04]: with the success as well like we just have to it's for me it's a waiting game to see what some of these guys do because it sounds like Kevin Geekle's not coming back if he read his Instagram post it was a very tearful goodbye like he's he's not expecting to come back but who knows I mean what that's been like an end of season thing too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, especially because you know, it's technically like, it is, I think most guys would probably do something like that, like knowing that, you know, the team didn't offer any sort of extent, I mean, you might as well just post that sort of like, thank you fans sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think, I think you might be on something Bradley Cameron, Jerry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's apparently blush and up like, so Jerry blush, he was hired in December, and that's when he started to make those moves, who were a lot of the bullpen guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really time the wise guy, you know, lies at good, like a lot of these guys in the working out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So again, like I don't know, like it could have been in some sort of Scout department, it could have been Kaplan, which I know the the the the pitching coach doesn't really work with the bullpin in the same sort of way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So could have just been some of these these coaches that they really helped shape the bullpin in a way that we hadn't really seen before because.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the options and we're kind of just like, damn, there's a lot of like 4.5 ERA guys coming in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And basically, most of them hit for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I said, you know, that Hazelman dumpster diving in the F1 dollar Blu-ray bin at Walmart by me, he was like, he was pulling out gladiator to shine on the dead and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you at least was able to do a good job there, but yeah, like I in terms of like Tory and everything else This is just something that So we just kind of have to accept that this is kind of being going to be the team I would hope that they do more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would hope that Hazen does a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The first base got it has to be addressed ASAP They got a Re-sign mechanic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have a lot a lot of work to do in the old season, so
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[SPEAKER_03]: hopefully they can put together another team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At to another point that you mentioned Brett sort of is about this team being maybe getting back to 91st.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got to 91st in 2017.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's been the only time just team as one more than the 80s where I guess they went to 89.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But this has not been a 91st team on a tour of Lebello and I know Hayes and said that this wasn't
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[SPEAKER_03]: But no, I can't help but feel like it wasn't fully business decision.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's going to have Tory hang up his, his string lights again this season or this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we're going to have to hear hear hear that reported again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't think this was fully a business decision because it was a business decision.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You would have been fired one time ago.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, it's definitely one of those where I can, you know, see both sides of people that, you know, defend, control of all the being a good manager, and then some that say he's not the greatest manager.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But I was Brandon said earlier, it gets overblown online a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's not the worst manager in the sport.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's not the best manager in the sport.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's a good manager.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think that's, that's just where he slots in.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He's a good manager.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He has his issues, like, I mean, you hear Cubs fans talk about Oliver Marmal.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like they think they would they would well our new hands.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, the Cardinal fans talk about Oliver Marmull.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know that times there's been you know Angel's fans.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I don't really like how Kurt Suzuki's been doing this year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: AJ Hinch.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know he has a lot of credit for some of the world's series they're at Houston, but he's had some horrible bullpen usage.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So like there's other managers out there that can that can be doing you know as bad if not worse.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So like to not the worst, not the best.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, it's one of those that I think is not surprising move to most, but not the move that especially all the defense fans on Twitter wanted because again a majority of them were which again as we all mentioned in our last show like I think after what we saw last Saturday we were all like we're okay if he he's you know let go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Are we surprised if he's not know but we like that but we're not going to be up here you know throwing a fit.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And being like, oh, I'm gonna cancel my season tickets because they brought by Tori Lavolo Boo Boo.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like, that's just, I'm not gonna do that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: To probably some people's displeasurement, but we do have a, at least, you know, moving on is where Next topic here.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Because Tori Lavolo was brought back on or, you know, brought back to the D-backs.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They do you normally have those interviews with him joining a Gambo on the radio and kind of getting their thoughts on a few things.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And obviously one of the things that's been talked about the entire season, especially in kind of keeping with the theme of Tori Lvullo, willy stay willy go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: People are online, we're thinking, all right, if Lvullo's gone, they get a new manager, they get a new GM, they're going to get a rid of console marte for whatever they can get rid of them for.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And they're going to move on from it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But because he's returning,
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[SPEAKER_08]: One of the big questions that he was asked about was obviously, you know, Katel Marte, and, you know, how as a manager, he can, you know, kind of go about dealing with, you know, the potential drama that might ensue with Katel Marte, if we have any more going into the future, we did actually have a clip from his appearance on the show with Gambot today, or Gambot the other day that we wanted to play on the episode, or on the show here tonight, so Brandon, if you got that clip there, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If he does come back next year, will there have to be a pre-arranged agreement on how it's going to go, so you don't fall into another situation like you've done each of the last three or four years?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think what I would tell him is I would tell every other player that the decisions you make are going to be on you now and I'm going to I'm going to eliminate protecting you the way I have and I will allow you to go out there and answer the questions on your own behalf and instead of me protecting you I think I would I would change my tune in that way.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I've taken the mindset that whenever anything goes wrong it's my fault and I'm going to
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's a certain point I can't do that anymore, so I have to allow them to advocate for themselves in the proper space and that's what I've learned over the past couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So that's what Torla Villa had to say on the, you know, how he's going to be, you know, kind of, Haley could tell Marte as a player, as a manager going forward.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And then also because of, you know, all these, and the season interviews, my case was also on the radio to kind of give his own two cents on could tell Marte, his thoughts on all that, and we also had another, another clip of what Haley's and I just say here, then we'll, you know, get you guys thoughts on, you know, we're both these guys have to say about the deep back second basement.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mike, I know this is a complicated question.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not even sure how well you can really answer publicly, but Kitell Marté.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, a lot of people thought if Tories back, he's not back as Kitell in this team's plans for the future.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, those things are not related one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Those guys, they have a great relationship.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They do very well together.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I understand the questions with Kitell.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I totally get it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I, we haven't even started digging into the offseason yet, so I don't know where all this is going to go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I do think one of the things that I need to take a hard look at is we failed.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Our individual players didn't fail, but we failed in our goal to make the playoffs, and I do hold myself to that standard, so using the word failure, even though it's 10 games over 500, I can still feel very confident in feeling that way to some degree.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think I need to feel that way because the standard should be get in the playoffs or it's a failure.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And in that way, I need to look at this team that's been together since 2023 and is this is this the absolute right mix of players that we have on this roster to take that next level and go for it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I do believe there's some level of continuity that that is good for us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's stabilized where the floor of our team has been, but we haven't reached any ceiling since since three years ago and that needs to change.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So those are the two, you know, many guys.
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[SPEAKER_08]: There's obviously Ken Kendrick had his own thoughts and could tell Marte, but we're going to save off any of the clips we have.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Ken Kendrick here for our next topic, because that'll be one of the more important ones.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But, Brandon, I'm going to start with you on this one.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Kind of hearing what Torlabel had to say in regards to, you know, could tell Marte kind of where he's going to go forward as a manager of him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And also, you know, my case in my case in comments, my case in comments about could tell Marte.
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[SPEAKER_08]: and all the, you know, whereas this isn't, you know, a main thing that they really, you know, gotten into the nitty gritty of as the off season as basically just began for them.
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[SPEAKER_08]: What are your thoughts in general on?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, both of these guys had to say about Katzel Marté and where that might lead to the future of him on this roster if he does indeed have one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To me, from what Tori said, it's sound like he's done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's done trying to baby, could tell him our day with his antics.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I got out of that little clip there is that he's gonna start training him like every other player.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gonna be holding them more accountable for their actions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I truly think the way that Hazen and Levello been treating Marte is the reason why he's able to do what he does every year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's been what three seasons in a row.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's pulled some sort of antique in the middle of the season where a lot of fans are saying he's giving up on the team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't care about baseball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's a lot like Anthony, Rindone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He got paid and that's all he cares about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hazen's comments were a bit interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said they haven't even talked to think about the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they have a roadmap of things that they want to accomplish this year is Marte on there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, is Marte is dealing Marte off this team, one of the things that they're gonna try and do this year?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are we gonna go through another offseason or will they or won't they with Marte?
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[SPEAKER_04]: This year, it's gonna be a little bit more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_04]: because he has his full no trade class.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So any trade that they try and do, either marté has to say, I mean, either like he has to okay the trade.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we know that there was a list of teams before that he had a limited no trade class in case he's being one of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a meth fan today that tried to basically say Marta from Marcus Simian, and I got physically ill.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got physically sick when I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, see, this is why fans are fans, because they just should not make just dumbfounded outtrades like this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I'm very curious to see how this situation kind of goes this off season with Marte, like last year, I was so sad you cannot trade to tell Marte, like you cannot cannot cannot trade a player of his caliber.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've kind of changed my tune a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I wouldn't be mad if they traded Kitzel Martek.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, obviously, I want them to get guys that can impact this team right away right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want a bunch of prospects.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do want some guys that can help the team right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would like a starting pitcher, maybe a second basement.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll just have to wait and see what ends up happening.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I can understand the, you know, not because I switching up the, you know, maybe pivoting to the side of, oh, this guy's on tradeable, you know, for the, the talent he brings to our and maybe there can be a situation that, you know, makes both parties happen the end.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't get a clue of it, but I didn't know that there's another quote I believe from my case, and we were mentioning that this team doesn't win 86 games without Katzel Marté, and I think that's still very true.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Even in a down season, he's still had a decent year, I mean, didn't you walk off like three games by himself?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like he had a couple like he still put up two and a half or this here had a 107 OPS he had a 740 or 107 OPS plus he had a 740 OPS like 22 home runs 76 runs driven in Yes, I mean, when you look at the average alone, it's it's around 30 points below his career average.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Especially in the last couple years, I know the last couple years, you're sitting 283 292 276.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But I think that this is one of those where I've mentioned before, all the, you know, or they're going to trade him every single day, waking up to a Bob Knight and Gail Sweets and the D-Bax want to trade him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: These are the teams that are going to get traded for, all this Yadiyada.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think that along with even the report lasts, you know, near the end of last year, where some anonymous teammates are that, you know, he was a cancer or D-Bella, whatever the terminology they use that kind of started in that whole issue.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think that kind of
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[SPEAKER_08]: Pressing himself at the play, trying to hit that big home run, go three for four with three home runs every game, and, you know, like, oh, like, you know, down we now or whatever it was, and I think there's just a lot of pressure on that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They kind of built and, you know, over into the season throughout the season and all that with the struggles.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Still a phenomenal baseball player, especially when you consider the contract that he has, like that's a contract that I think any team would be okay to take on, especially considering the potential that he can have when we know what we've seen him do.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But again, I do like what Torrey's saying on the, you know, he's going to treat him like everyone else.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like I agree, he's a superstar player at times.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like if this is the first time it happened, yeah, maybe a little leniency because, you know, a superstar player sometimes players at that caliber deserve a little bit more of a leash.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But with how often it's happened, I'm fully okay with him, you know, raining in the leash a little bit and saying all right, you're going to be treated as everyone else.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not going to, you know, treat you poorly, but I'm not going to, you know, kind of give you this extra kind of cushion that I've been giving you last couple of years tonight.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I know a lot of fans on online and all that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: because again, I grew with Hayes and I think this team is better with Katomar today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, we could trade him away, but the trade values probably plummeted, but I just, I think, unless we, if we had a, you know, case in Cunningham was hitting like 400 in doubly already, or if we had Tommy Troy hitting 400 with like 20 home runs in doubly, if we put up an insane season when he came up here, but I mean, he's more of an outfielder now.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We don't really have something that's going to slot in Amelia's second base, and I'd prefer at least still getting two and a half or every single year versus getting a guy that might barely be your placement level, but that's just my whole two sense in the situation that I know we've talked about could tell a lot, and we'll still probably talk about him while at the top season but game.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to pass it on to you now, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_08]: What are your thoughts on what both Tori Lebello and my case and had to say about could tell Marte and what are your thoughts on if he does indeed have a
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[SPEAKER_08]: future on this team what that kind of looks like for him and maybe even like seeing what's going to look like in the club aspect forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think you guys have mentioned something really important, which is this team has offered him no stability into his last couple of seasons where everything has revolved around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we got a trademark today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This team is going to trade in our team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's on the trade block.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have Bob Nightingale and a bunch of other
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[SPEAKER_03]: like you know we said before it's they're getting word from the top down about this team one to get rid of katel marté whether it's because of his personal issues contract or whatever it is they they've been wanting to get rid of him now with the 10 to five rights like it's going to be really really hard for the team like the team has literally no leverage to get rid of marté they can't
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fort they can't force a trade they can't send him for just anything like yes, it'll prove the trade So if he goes somewhere he's probably gonna want to go to a natural Contender, but is that team gonna be willing to take him?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Dodgers gonna is that is that where he's going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna end up in LA because the Dodgers don't really have much of a second baseman right now So if it is they're gonna get to he's gonna get something anywhere right because they're how am I gonna seem going to Miami?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know maybe being a leader there, but for the most part I think is just
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's something that has to be resolved ASAP.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like before anything else happens, I don't know how much communication they can actually have with the players right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're not allowed to be forward season inside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it's kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm really talking about contract sovereignty and so the season ends or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see how they go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But whatever it is has to be resolved as quickly as they can.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that I'm going to bring you back when I'm trading you, you know, unless we're completely out of the playoffs by the deadline, you know, we want you here, just like Tories said he wants to be wanted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they got to let him know as well that, you know, we want you here, you want you to play with us, you know, want you to be an all-time great-time back, so then at that point, you know, maybe he can relax a little bit, whatever helped that he might need mentally, hopefully he can get it as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we should trade him like he is one of the best second basements in the league.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was just barely a little bit behind war in O'Reyes, who O'Reyes had a great season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he was just behind him, but even look at his savant page.
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[SPEAKER_03]: page.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of his expected stats are, you know, just in line with everything else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has a 280 expected battery and average, about a 249.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His on base was something like 350.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I expected 350, he was at 313, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's expected, oh, yes, it was well over 800.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he was hitting the ball really hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was hitting really well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, it was just going for out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the first two months of the season, he was hitting everything hard in 10 miles an hour, but it straighted you out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So...
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect this slump with his bad season to carry on to next season, so next season he's probably going to be an off-saw again and hopefully it's for the dimebacks and I hope that whatever it is that Hazen, Tori and him have to work out, hopefully they can work that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you need to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: time to disappear, figure out a way to let them disappear for three or four days, thinking come back with a team, whatever, you know, oh, with his hamstring, he's acting up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we understand that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know that, because I was, you know, as played through hamstring injuries, whatever, it might be that the lead doesn't have to come knocking to see how me, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It actually hurt or not, so whatever it is to get it for your out, you got it for your out now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like they said, if not going to protect them, Katel has got to be smarter about what he does as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a group effort for Tori Hazen and Katel.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so even like when Brandon said, I think this is definitely something that, you know, to your point, Gabe, they got to figure this out ASAP and I think that's along the lines of what Brandon said where they have a roadmap.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I definitely think, you know, it's kind of like when you're, you know, when you're writing and you build out the skeleton of where you're writing or you have, you know, I guess in science, you have like the skeleton of like, all right, this is, you know, my formula that I'm going to use, let's see what I can plug and play.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think he is a part of that formula and they know they got to address that first.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Whether they, you know, what the actual solution is, whether they, you know, they keep or not, not sure what it is, but as you, you know, kind of like you mentioned, give them a breather.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let them know, are you know what?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Because you're no trade obviously, you get to decide if they decide to keep them let them know, be like, hey, like you're a guy, like we're going to keep with you.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Do what you need to do, hit up Aaron Rodgers, go on a darkness retreat, whatever it is, and if I did nickel for every time a star player on one of my favorite sports teams, I had a whole thing in the media, a whole offseason of like, oh, are they going to be on this team or not in the future?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, what's going to go on?
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's 24-7 media coverage.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Out of two nickels, it's not a lot, weird, it's happened twice.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so just just hit him up go on some kind of darkness retreated.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's when he needs some mentally reset Because I think that he still you know, I know people talk about aggression, but I mean this is still a guy that He's only What 32 years old.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think that yes, maybe he's not a second baseman.
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[SPEAKER_08]: There's his career We've seen guys like Nelson Cruz like you know college corporate has really and figure or reinvigorating himself as a DH
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[SPEAKER_08]: If you need to, just put them as just a DH and, you know, figured out there, keep them a little bit healthier.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, as you mentioned, Gabe gives the more stability knows, like, hey, this is your position.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This is what you're here to do.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Go and do it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And then I think we'll see him on lock similar.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Kind of similar all start numbers that he put up here that does the last couple years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, but I'm, I think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the issues is always going to be the look of media there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't talk about the dynamics and list or something like this going on, like they the season starting and they're still talking about football or anything else other than a damn back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when they get a story like this, that's all they'll talk about and that's all they'll mention because they know we had a click.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're talking about how there's a lot of worry or talk about a Star player maybe getting moved as a local Arizona sports and like it's every year It's where Kevin Booker going is he's staying with the sun those Kyla Murray for every Kyla Murray Kevin Durand DA Basically anybody who was a star player in this town the the local media just
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[SPEAKER_08]: There's a trend I'm noticing for some of those maps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't quite put my finger on it yet.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and I'm not, I'm not under fully understanding what the main issue is.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But either way it's definitely something that I would like to see this media Which I mean kind of a lot of media does it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm just usually it's I feel like not as you know They they they they move on to the the sport that's you know starting on one-odd and they don't just stay on the one sport because Could be the D-backs hit a walk-off home run on opening day or you know set beer sends the sense of the fans in a frenzy on national beer They with walk-off home run, but what did Kyla Murray have for lunch and how is it affected in the car?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like okay, but we don't fucking care, okay?
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[SPEAKER_08]: But what we do care about is our third and final topic, another thing that was, you know, talked about in the radio here, as DeBax, a managing partner, can, Kendrick, was on the, the air.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He, like I said, he had a couple comments about Katoma to himself, but that's not what we're going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to talk about some of the other comments he made that, that, that, that, that
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[SPEAKER_08]: me personally uh i i think it's it's it's a little frustrating um it was about this team's payroll and you basically confirmed um that this team's payroll that they had in this year is going to be i don't come in wrong we'll hear the quote in a second i think he said either less or significantly less than what we uh you know got in in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_08]: which is very frustrating considering you know the potential steam has and I know it's going to be something that is going to be like Gabe said the media is going to jump too to defend it in some way and say how no it's actually you know there's there's a good reason why he you know this is why it has to be but Brandon I think if you got that cute up we can hear what Ken Kendrick had to say on the teams payroll in a 2027
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[SPEAKER_00]: looking at what our payroll is going to be is I will say the following it will not be at the same level it'll be a lower payroll than we had this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay and the reason being just because of the losses that come with having to pay roll that high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not really, it's, uh, if you go look at those contracts that are expiring, we have some very significant contracts that are expiring, uh, unfortunately players who made little or no contribution to the team, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you don't spend the money just to spend the money you spend the money you think is appropriate to put a winning club on the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we can put a winning club on the field based on some of the high dollar players going away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be very competitive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a lot of very outstanding young players that deserve a chance to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They aren't as expensive as some of the veterans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we will end up being we will spend less money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the fans react to, well, how much are they spending?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will only, and everybody gets to spend our owners money, except, and get to tell us how to spend our money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we will make a decisions that we feel are appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So what's that got to me in this one?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, you know, he makes a good point.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know he didn't name names, but is that gown?
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's probably one of the big names talking about Lord of Scurreal Jr. his contractal, what they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Merrill Kelly, I know we haven't heard of a year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He didn't have performed well.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Cornburn's, I'm not going to blame him for any of that when he was injured and surprised they even tried to bring him back this year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But there's a lot of money that would be coming off this book for you guys that they're not going forward.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Most of you backspans would be like, oh, what about, you know, use that, you know, this money, that instead of giving it to that gown, you give it to this player, you split it up and give it to two bullpen pitchers, maybe you throw it towards Gabby's contract extension, maybe you go and, you know, get a nice first base when maybe you go and get another starting pitch and add your bullpen, or a starting pitch and add your rotation.
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[SPEAKER_08]: maybe you go and you know get whatever you need.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But for me what kind of stuck at the most is the attitude and the kind of tone that he had when he talked about OS fans getting to decide how the owners spend their money.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I get into some some degree.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's not our money.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I totally understand it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It'd be like somebody comes with me.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's like, oh hey, go by this.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Go by this.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Mike, that's my money.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I can do it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I want the money.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I I told you understand that too to agree.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But I'm not the one that owns a team and I'm not the one that is, you know, that kind of has to, in a way, have a duty to put a good product on the field.
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[SPEAKER_08]: To me, the kind of vibe I'm getting from Ken Kendrick is we talked about a little bit this in our discord at where.
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[SPEAKER_08]: compare Ken Kendrick in his ownership to Matt Ishpia yes Matt Ishpia when he came in he wanted to make these moves trade for Kevin Durant he wanted to do all this fun stuff but he was a knowner that wants to put the money to bring the fans in want to make it you know do what he can with his money that it's not like he's hurting it's not like spending money on this team is going to make him go broke no owner of any sports franchise will ever be in that situation
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[SPEAKER_08]: But he's actually out there to put the money onto the field or onto the core I guess in that sense make it a good team and then also at the same time Do what he can at concessions and all that he's he is what all owners should inspire to be but he is he is an owner He is like the main owner.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He is the guy where the dbacks because of their managing group their managing partners
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[SPEAKER_08]: They have a lot of guys as like a whole firm like kind of sides.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This is what frustrates me the most about this is because the d-backs and Ken Kendrick I feel like they are managing this team just like a business.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, it is a business.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not denying that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But it feels like they're only there as like kind of similar to, you know, Fisher in the owner for the A's were, hey, they're making a profit.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It'd be nice to have the playoffs and extra money, but as long as they're making money and they're trying to put a good effort out there on the field and they're not putting a $40 million payroll.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They've done their job.
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[SPEAKER_08]: To me, it's cowardice.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's using ways to get around, actually having to want to put money, where your mouth is.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And yes, we know this team, as Gabe mentioned, some of those immediate will jump to after 2023, you know, people would be like, oh, well, can't a Kendrick, actually put record payroll into this team.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Can't a Kendrick's, I've spent a lot of money this year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and I'm pretty sure he did it for two years.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Like that's the thing is he can't just do it for two years.
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[SPEAKER_08]: If you want to be an actual team that continues to compete, like, you know, figure out a way to, you know, to do it better.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We're not saying that you have to go over the next tax threshold, but
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[SPEAKER_08]: To me, it's just frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It feels like it's spinning in the face of fans and basically telling us to, hey, this is not your money porries.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let us make the decisions out here.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This is why you guys aren't GMs, but it's just it's frustrating to see, you know, actual owners and, you know, look at the new owners of the podries.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It seems like they're like, hey, we'll spend the money if it means that we can have playoff baseball and this, these fans keep coming out.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're like, it's just money thing of the day to us where feel like that is not any kind of realm that we're going to get in the reality for this current debacks ownership.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I want to pass on you guys here now because I can ran for the entire episode about this one topic.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Gabe, what are your thoughts in general and what can Kendrick Katz who say regarding this team's payroll in 2027, and especially the end of his comments there about us as fans wanting to dictate how the owner is spending their money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you'll get nothing, and you'll be happy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's basically what he's saying to us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's making supposedly an honest effort to make get payroll and everything else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But any time you kind of needed that one little thing like a, you know, Kendrick, like we just need this one guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can, you know, maybe we can work something out where we go one or two million over the luxury tax, like through the last season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can get a, you know, a picture, but we just need that a little bit of, you know, actually wasted, you know, we go over the luxury tax, pay 15 million, but you're going to make 30, 40, 50 million off of the, off of the playoff money, but, you know, didn't, didn't want to go over that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, it's just, it feels like a lot of empty calories with the way they spend this money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of that does fall in hazing as well, like signings I gallon to 22 million dollar contract.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That put this team in the buying at that point because their opening day salary was like a little bit over 200 million out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like yelling 100 out and they're like around, you know, 180, if they're that money somewhere else, like, you know, 18 has failed a lot of the times, but I think the one of them is one of the big things is can Dricks, I guess, some weird willingness and unwillingness at the same time to spend the money when they've, they've had the opportunity to really do something big, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't assign JD Martinez that that was a huge one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's a lot of different things that this team got to done and they just didn't do it It didn't extend Paul Goldschmidt either and like there's a lot of things that this hazen Ken Kendrick regime just hasn't done and it's not gonna ever do and so when he's saying that like oh, you know, we're gonna we're gonna lower payroll
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to feel about that, like, you have a lot of guys who are going to get more expensive this upcoming season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a few guys, don't know how a ton of guys, like other years where, you know, they have the arbitration, but Gabby, yeah, four guys don't have this here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, they're going to find a way to give payment Smith $5 million instead of $2 million or whatever is contract would be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Gabby supposedly is at 6 million.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Gabby is going to go closer to $10 million just based off of, you know, the numbers from other guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's a few guys who are going to be demanding a little bit more money and
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, well, what's this thing going to do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they start to fill out the first base position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to have to fill out a picture, because, you know, we traded Daniel League and so now we're down another picture in the minor league system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to get a backup catcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to figure out what to do with the Alfield.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It would be great if they could just roll out, wallagement, law, or in Corbin out there, but we know Hazen Tori don't like doing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to have to find five other, you know, below average bats to put on the Alfield.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's frustrating to hear Kendrick say that because he doesn't have to say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't have to say any of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can just say, you know, we're looking at our options that all he has to say, you know, we'll look at our options.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll try to spend wisely, just say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you already making excuses about lowering payroll?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what happens if this team fails next season again?
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[SPEAKER_03]: whether you're just going to see, oh, well, you know payroll payrolls down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what the damage is going to make the playoffs again this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so confusing and it's so frustrating and it's got back here saying he's glad they're going to get in Gallon or gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a two really big contracts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's 37, 36, 37 million dollars right off the book there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when he says they're in payroll,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's two big contract.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost $40 million at this team of shedding just based off those two guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So spend $20 million out of those $40 million that they're getting rid of, trim some of that fat that they have on this team and maybe they lower payroll, you know, $1.90 instead of $2.10 where it was this season, but it's a wise $1.90.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so I think that's definitely the like I will not be upset if it's a lower pay role, but they you know like you said they do it in a more wise way.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They leave a little bit more room because I do know one of some of the the points I've seen brought up on Twitter that art I think about points that this team if they had a little bit more of a cushion at the trade deadline they could have been a little bit more aggressive on some trades where
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, to me, again, I still think as an owner and complaining about the in the luxury tax is just, it's just kind of sad.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But, you know, if we want to, you know, actually, I feel like, oh, I understand what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, because, you know, the little bit of an extra cushion, if you had, you know, 15 to $20 million to work with, and that, you could be make a few more of those trays and you're good to go, but because, uh, close, they were already going over that luxury tax.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I believe if you go two years and roads and even bigger, uh, tax hit.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So, I guess, maybe they're trying to, you know, get underneath that marks.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They don't hit it multiple years and a row.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So like I get that take to it, but kind of like you said, Gabe, it feels just like you're going to get nothing and you're going to like it, but who knows, again, I'm not surprised that's going to be less payroll.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm just hoping it's not significantly less and where we're sitting here with like 140 million in payroll.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And this team is going to just be trotting out.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And like basically, Brookies, which, hey, if it means Jordan Lawler and Ryan Walshmaking more playing time, I'm not going to hate it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But at the same time, I don't know if that's even, I still am pretty sure their souls are trapped in the shadow room.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Gotta get the, you know, you need to let them out or some shit, but Brandon, the floor is now yours, my man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: What are your thoughts on Ken Kendrick's comments on this team's payroll?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Were you surprised at all by it?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Were you, you know, kind of like, yeah, this is what I expected?
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[SPEAKER_08]: And what do you think about his tone, especially considering, you know, the way he said about fans telling owners how to spend their money?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But that, all right, so that last part, him basically telling fans, this is my money, I'm gonna spend it how I want, just kind of made me laugh, that he's letting people that have nothing to do with the organization affect him so much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, thought that was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I wanted to just go over a couple of numbers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, according to SpotTrack,
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[SPEAKER_04]: The projected cash payroll in 2026 was just over 200 million.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right now for 2027, based on who's currently on the roster, it's 155.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of like, like we said, like 35 million or so is coming off the books with Galen and Gario, which there's a lot you can address with that much money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bingers crossed, I'm very curious to see what my case does and see if he does anything at all before the CBA expires, like will he even attempt, will players and agents even try and do anything with the pending lockout at all?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's going to be something to keep our eye out on for, it'll be about probably about 30 days once the off season officially starts after the World Series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that gallon and garyl contract really half really really hurt first to make those moves of the deadline and those in a being really bent hopefully they learn their lesson and they do not bring gallon back again they do not like keep if it's two billion bucks sure sure bring back not for $20 million
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, not for $20.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My, I don't even know if I do it for two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's that bad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is, he is not a starting pitching qualm or caliber pitcher anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's just not.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So I think we've seen three of us, like, you know, $100,000 combined and I'm pretty sure all of us could put the same kind of numbers as I can put up, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You would save so much more money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, uh, very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm very curious where Gabby ends up like, is he going to be near that 10 million that gave, uh, suggested, um, based on prior history with guys that were had the same sort of numbers, uh, that he did, um,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they've been back haven, but I don't, you don't always get what you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I think I saw, was it two and a half million for Paven?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he's going to plot the haze and island files and he's going to get a ten million dollar deal from that case.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And they're not going to get an arbitration, you'll see.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The D-backs and payments with a void arbitration with ten million dollars were going to be like, what the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_08]: How?
58:28.444 --> 58:32.445
[SPEAKER_08]: And then someone's going to find, oh yeah, he's got, he's got photos
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so very interesting comments from Ken Kendrick, um, it's just, I think it all really doesn't really matter because a lot of this, we may not even see anything happening for quite a while with this pending CBA.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so it's going to be, I get why they have, you know, the CBS expire, but there's times when we're like, can we just give it like a 10, 15 year CBS, so we can at least go a decade, a thousand or about any kind of lock-out issues because we're going to deal with this and what was it 2020, obviously 2020, you know, like the short, or I guess that was that was the pandemic short in season, but it was what 2022.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So it's 22 in the other short and season or the the the lockout with a you know push back spring training where we've still got a regular you know it's 162 was at 22 21.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I thought it was a five-year deal, so that's what makes you think it was because two, three, four, five, yeah, one, two, yeah, one, two, okay, yeah, so it was 2022, yeah, so like a year before we started this show, and that was a, that was a lot of, you know, drama, it's, it's billionaires were some millionaires talking about how much money each more than deserves to make over the other one.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Nine times out of ten, I would side with players, but you know, if it means we get a salary cap
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[SPEAKER_08]: go team owners I stand with the owners on this just this one this one time this one subject but yeah say it is funny you know Gabe you kind of mentioned that Kenny Kendrick didn't have to say any of this he is is he the the main you know owner obviously outside like early to the main owner that's not like one of the big ones like he's not the Steve Cohen he's not the the Mark Walters you know dealing with that kind of you know spotlight
01:00:22.345 --> 01:00:37.988
[SPEAKER_08]: But I feel like every time he has a mic, he asks you to try to wait to shit talk somebody, like George Weather's Jordan Montgomery, whether it's even in this clip here talking about, I know he was alluding to that gallon and the $20 million dollar and how like, you know, guys that basically did nothing for this team.
01:00:38.448 --> 01:00:43.289
[SPEAKER_08]: Like it just feels like my dude, you don't have to be a dickhead, you don't have to try to shit talk somebody.
01:00:43.689 --> 01:00:44.950
[SPEAKER_08]: You can just go up there and give the
01:00:51.912 --> 01:01:07.163
[SPEAKER_08]: just old get off my lawn grandpa energy or whatever it is it's just God kind of like the the nickels joke again if I'd a nickel for every time our owner had to you know shit talk a player at this point I have three nickels it's it's too much it's too many nickels to have and I would like to not have any more but
01:01:07.743 --> 01:01:33.487
[SPEAKER_08]: yeah it's it's frustrating again not surprising i would say to a certain degree uh but just it's it's one of those where every other owner you're not going to see or every other team that actually is serious by competing uh their owner is not going to just travel like yeah we're going to have a less pedal next year you're going to get used to it like all right man like that's going to that's really going to drive us you know season ticket sales and people want to come back that's why we you know struggle to actually have a real fan base here because uh you know you
01:01:37.528 --> 01:01:54.138
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, and you know the final thought show, and I know that, uh, you know, the playoffs have kind of already gotten underway, and he, uh, quick thoughts on some of the series that we've had, or maybe some quick predictions as the division series are about to be getting underway here, uh, starting tomorrow night, which by the way, MLB, what the fuck man, it's, it's a Friday night.
01:01:54.358 --> 01:01:56.119
[SPEAKER_08]: There's no other major sports going on.
01:01:56.779 --> 01:01:58.740
[SPEAKER_08]: Get your schedule and shit together, okay?
01:01:59.001 --> 01:01:59.541
[SPEAKER_08]: Get it together.
01:02:00.552 --> 01:02:04.073
[SPEAKER_04]: All they have to have that, uh, off day in between these.
01:02:04.153 --> 01:02:09.995
[SPEAKER_08]: I know, but same time, fuck it, just make the wild card series start on the Monday.
01:02:10.075 --> 01:02:12.436
[SPEAKER_08]: Make it a reason where you don't want to be in the wild card series.
01:02:12.796 --> 01:02:15.897
[SPEAKER_08]: So you actually, you know, try to win your division more.
01:02:16.137 --> 01:02:16.877
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, whatever it is.
01:02:16.897 --> 01:02:18.458
[SPEAKER_08]: Just give me Friday night, play out baseball meds.
01:02:18.478 --> 01:02:20.278
[SPEAKER_01]: I need, I need, I need it.
01:02:20.458 --> 01:02:21.118
[SPEAKER_01]: I need it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, what are some predictions you might have for the, the DS is anything that those best start tomorrow night.
01:02:27.407 --> 01:02:34.774
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't even know, I like he's like he was saying like I kind of just don't care the Dodgers when he had this point like they went to in a row.
01:02:34.814 --> 01:02:37.297
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of all they need like I don't care if they went again.
01:02:38.077 --> 01:02:43.923
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I guess I'm a little bit interested in how they'll look against the braves.
01:02:44.523 --> 01:02:46.185
[SPEAKER_03]: I am interested in in general how.
01:02:47.827 --> 01:02:51.052
[SPEAKER_03]: How things are going to work out, so what does it mean to play out baseball?
01:02:51.072 --> 01:02:52.935
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the games are really, really early.
01:02:53.216 --> 01:02:57.002
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of the... We haven't given a search at 10 o'clock tomorrow.
01:02:58.299 --> 01:02:58.859
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
01:02:58.899 --> 01:03:00.220
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, am I going to be awake by then?
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:01.280
[SPEAKER_08]: It's always Cleveland.
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:10.064
[SPEAKER_08]: It's always like, Cleveland always gets the early games and I kind of feel bad for their fans because they're they're ballpark and I has a little aura, but they never get the late games.
01:03:10.124 --> 01:03:12.985
[SPEAKER_03]: They're always the, what a clock PM start.
01:03:13.005 --> 01:03:16.827
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because it's them and then you're the Dodger's plan one.
01:03:16.887 --> 01:03:23.170
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, I mean, it's nice to have baseball to the entire day like that, but then those those early games are brutal because
01:03:24.290 --> 01:03:24.811
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
01:03:24.991 --> 01:03:27.073
[SPEAKER_03]: I need my afternoon nap hits Saturday.
01:03:27.674 --> 01:03:28.835
[SPEAKER_03]: I like taking afternoon naps.
01:03:31.177 --> 01:03:32.598
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't blame you.
01:03:32.678 --> 01:03:33.780
[SPEAKER_08]: There's tons of even today.
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:38.644
[SPEAKER_08]: Our, my wife, our son and I, we got back from a little trip to a press kit.
01:03:38.844 --> 01:03:41.047
[SPEAKER_08]: We're like, we're going to, we're going to turn on baby end signs.
01:03:41.067 --> 01:03:46.312
[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to, you know, take a one-eye, one-eye open nap on the couch here because we're both exhausted, naturally.
01:03:46.752 --> 01:03:55.235
[SPEAKER_08]: That should go to man, that should go to high-tech recommend it, but yeah, I do like the we get two different divisional matchups in the DS here with the white socks guardians and the Yankees and Reyes.
01:03:55.755 --> 01:03:58.836
[SPEAKER_08]: I will say each one of these series is going to be pretty fun to watch.
01:03:59.256 --> 01:04:04.297
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, yes, I am rooting for anybody about the plotters to win, but I feel like each one of his games isn't going to be very exciting.
01:04:04.777 --> 01:04:07.798
[SPEAKER_08]: And I think we're going to be we're going to be in store for some good baseball.
01:04:07.818 --> 01:04:09.459
[SPEAKER_08]: I feel like we got the shitty teams out of the way.
01:04:10.399 --> 01:04:11.039
[SPEAKER_08]: The Astro is the
01:04:14.541 --> 01:04:16.422
[SPEAKER_08]: The Cubs, they were frauds from the beginning.
01:04:16.442 --> 01:04:20.126
[SPEAKER_08]: We already knew that then obviously in the American League.
01:04:20.146 --> 01:04:25.390
[SPEAKER_08]: We knew the red socks were, they were not going to do anything in general anyway.
01:04:25.610 --> 01:04:27.492
[SPEAKER_08]: We already knew all that, but what about you, Brandon?
01:04:27.532 --> 01:04:29.534
[SPEAKER_08]: Any predictions here for the D.S.
01:04:29.554 --> 01:04:30.955
[SPEAKER_04]: is going to get underway tomorrow?
01:04:32.895 --> 01:04:39.244
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's going to happen, but for the vibes and just the craziness, I need a podger's Dodgers NLCS.
01:04:39.884 --> 01:04:44.931
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know, immediately, baseball wants that, because that would do ratings galore.
01:04:45.391 --> 01:04:50.318
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you imagine that as a seven game series, how intense that would be?
01:04:52.582 --> 01:04:56.404
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, like, games that earlier, it's it's it's it's rooting for Hitler versus Salon.
01:04:56.584 --> 01:04:59.726
[SPEAKER_08]: Do you want to do you want to do Hitler to when he wants to know and like my god.
01:05:00.506 --> 01:05:03.068
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh, can I can either can can a meteor strike the earth?
01:05:03.828 --> 01:05:08.670
[SPEAKER_08]: Can we just, you know, cancel this series and then give the winner to the American League the the the trophy?
01:05:09.571 --> 01:05:11.772
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I agree it would be great for baseball ratings.
01:05:12.572 --> 01:05:17.195
[SPEAKER_08]: But as a as a person who was on the pod is hate watch train.
01:05:17.815 --> 01:05:21.337
[SPEAKER_08]: No, anybody, anybody with employees, anybody with them.
01:05:22.611 --> 01:05:24.433
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'll just have to wait and see.
01:05:24.493 --> 01:05:26.795
[SPEAKER_04]: To be honest, for me, it's anyone but LA.
01:05:30.238 --> 01:05:31.119
[SPEAKER_08]: I guess don't say it.
01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:33.260
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, imagine if we get into the Yankee's Dodgers World Series.
01:05:33.921 --> 01:05:37.164
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, again, I would have to make my bed and laying it.
01:05:37.784 --> 01:05:38.505
[SPEAKER_08]: Stop the podgers.
01:05:38.685 --> 01:05:45.051
[SPEAKER_08]: I can't complain, but God, I would be okay with a brewer's raised or a brewer's guardians or a brewer's white socks.
01:05:45.406 --> 01:05:46.907
[SPEAKER_08]: So you know no one would watch that.
01:05:47.247 --> 01:05:48.728
[SPEAKER_08]: That's the problem with that.
01:05:48.748 --> 01:05:49.168
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.
01:05:49.188 --> 01:05:51.290
[SPEAKER_08]: What do you think is people say nobody would watch it?
01:05:51.330 --> 01:05:52.651
[SPEAKER_08]: People will still watch it.
01:05:52.991 --> 01:05:55.392
[SPEAKER_08]: People will still watch stories every single time.
01:05:55.412 --> 01:05:56.633
[SPEAKER_08]: And you have that.
01:05:57.594 --> 01:06:01.596
[SPEAKER_08]: It's, it's, you know, the sport isn't here.
01:06:01.636 --> 01:06:04.298
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just to keep the casuals because then people are going to say it's scripted.
01:06:04.658 --> 01:06:06.099
[SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes we need those fun matchups.
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:08.641
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, look at the 2016 World Series.
01:06:08.661 --> 01:06:11.823
[SPEAKER_08]: How many people probably said that the Cubs versus Guardians would be a mid-ass World Series.
01:06:12.203 --> 01:06:14.685
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's one of the best in the last like 30 years.
01:06:16.077 --> 01:06:30.906
[SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes you get these matchups that you don't expect like the Dodgers Yankees and it was like all of the greatest world series matchup we've gotten in so long And it was one of the most lofts out of world series there was like that was a snooze fest the entire way Sometimes you need those smaller market teams to get a little bit more excitement in there, but
01:06:31.386 --> 01:06:33.747
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, either way, I wish mentioned last time.
01:06:33.787 --> 01:06:35.827
[SPEAKER_08]: I wish we were here talking about the D-backs in the post-season.
01:06:36.747 --> 01:06:40.908
[SPEAKER_08]: Maybe this time, Mix here, we'll actually get to cover some D-backs playoff baseball.
01:06:41.208 --> 01:06:42.349
[SPEAKER_08]: If not, maybe we're the problem.
01:06:42.429 --> 01:06:43.329
[SPEAKER_08]: Maybe we're just the jinx.
01:06:43.489 --> 01:06:45.649
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, we started this podcast after the World Series ended.
01:06:46.229 --> 01:06:49.130
[SPEAKER_08]: When we lost to the Rangers, and we have not made it back to the playoff sense.
01:06:49.150 --> 01:06:53.991
[SPEAKER_08]: So maybe we're the issue, and it's not my case, and it's not Ken Kendrick in the spending.
01:06:54.011 --> 01:06:55.012
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not the teacher performance.
01:06:55.392 --> 01:06:55.672
[SPEAKER_08]: It's us.
01:06:55.852 --> 01:06:57.152
[SPEAKER_08]: It's us over here, D-backs, his batch.
01:06:57.172 --> 01:07:00.513
[SPEAKER_08]: That's the three goofballs talking about the D-backs for the reason why we can't make it back for the playoffs.
01:07:01.653 --> 01:07:07.301
[SPEAKER_08]: Any other final thoughts in general before we get out of here and send everyone on their way for the rest of the weekend to enjoy some play up on.
01:07:07.401 --> 01:07:09.244
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're bored, you want something to read.
01:07:09.304 --> 01:07:13.450
[SPEAKER_04]: You can go on the MLBPA website and read the current CBA is 442 pages.
01:07:13.470 --> 01:07:13.850
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
01:07:18.002 --> 01:07:22.363
[SPEAKER_08]: God, I think I would rather read every single description of every magic card that's ever been made.
01:07:22.423 --> 01:07:25.784
[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, I have magic gathering cards that I'm staring at here, so I just keep thinking about magic.
01:07:26.444 --> 01:07:28.605
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, I'd rather do that than the CBA, my God.
01:07:28.625 --> 01:07:29.185
[SPEAKER_08]: That's too much.
01:07:29.365 --> 01:07:29.965
[SPEAKER_08]: That's too much.
01:07:30.185 --> 01:07:39.088
[SPEAKER_08]: That's, it's too much legal jargon that I'm like, yes, somebody smarter than me can explain it all to me, because it's just too much for me, but how about you giving?
01:07:39.168 --> 01:07:40.968
[SPEAKER_08]: Any other, any other final thoughts, anything else?
01:07:40.988 --> 01:07:44.089
[SPEAKER_08]: Whether it's DBX or whether it's baseball or whether it's not baseball or whether you want to talk about?
01:07:46.282 --> 01:07:48.043
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't think so.
01:07:48.083 --> 01:07:51.704
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I have people have recommendations for shows to watch.
01:07:51.884 --> 01:07:55.605
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of would like them because I kind of exhausted my options.
01:07:55.625 --> 01:08:00.407
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I watch the brand knows, because I have a gimbal girls basically watch every fall.
01:08:00.447 --> 01:08:03.068
[SPEAKER_03]: So, no, I'm trying to look for something else.
01:08:03.168 --> 01:08:04.128
[SPEAKER_03]: Something like that.
01:08:04.168 --> 01:08:07.469
[SPEAKER_08]: Does the live action, there can be like animated?
01:08:07.489 --> 01:08:09.850
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, like, not animated, just animated.
01:08:10.958 --> 01:08:13.760
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I guess it depends on like how many seasons and stuff like there are.
01:08:14.441 --> 01:08:16.822
[SPEAKER_08]: I'd say Bojack Horseman's one of the favorite of all time.
01:08:16.922 --> 01:08:17.663
[SPEAKER_03]: That's cool.
01:08:17.943 --> 01:08:18.183
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:08:19.364 --> 01:08:20.124
[SPEAKER_03]: This side tangent.
01:08:20.244 --> 01:08:21.285
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like the animation.
01:08:21.305 --> 01:08:23.567
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like this is weird.
01:08:23.687 --> 01:08:24.587
[SPEAKER_03]: This is weird addict.
01:08:25.128 --> 01:08:26.369
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that static animation.
01:08:26.389 --> 01:08:28.390
[SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of like Bob's burgers and stuff like that.
01:08:29.591 --> 01:08:29.911
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't.
01:08:30.231 --> 01:08:38.522
[SPEAKER_03]: So I, you know, I grew up with the Simpsons and a lot of this Cartoon Network shows like actual like big animation styles like where there's a lot of movement.
01:08:38.562 --> 01:08:43.248
[SPEAKER_03]: So seeing like a static animation where it's like only the mouse moves it really bothers me.
01:08:43.288 --> 01:08:47.333
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like low budget and a barbaric cartoons, but like uglier.
01:08:48.317 --> 01:08:48.677
[SPEAKER_08]: That's fair.
01:08:48.817 --> 01:08:53.842
[SPEAKER_08]: So if you ever are really in desperate need of getting one, I'd recommend at least turning it on the background.
01:08:54.143 --> 01:08:56.725
[SPEAKER_08]: Because there is probably one of my favorite shows of all time.
01:08:56.945 --> 01:08:58.447
[SPEAKER_08]: Like I can't recommend it enough.
01:08:59.107 --> 01:09:04.332
[SPEAKER_08]: There's times where I'll even, you know, I'm on my 23 watch and I'll still catch things that I didn't see the first 19 times.
01:09:04.372 --> 01:09:05.253
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
01:09:05.293 --> 01:09:05.934
[SPEAKER_08]: That's a good one.
01:09:06.715 --> 01:09:08.516
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll see what else.
01:09:08.617 --> 01:09:10.799
[SPEAKER_08]: Side repunk edge runners is an anime technically.
01:09:10.819 --> 01:09:11.820
[SPEAKER_08]: That's a great one on Netflix.
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:13.720
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm out of the house.
01:09:13.740 --> 01:09:15.921
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys have heard of outdoor boys.
01:09:16.681 --> 01:09:17.101
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, dude.
01:09:17.521 --> 01:09:18.561
[SPEAKER_08]: Go to YouTube channel.
01:09:18.941 --> 01:09:19.201
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:09:19.221 --> 01:09:20.641
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's all I've been watching at night.
01:09:20.741 --> 01:09:24.102
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically like this because you know, I don't want to start a new episode of anything.
01:09:24.122 --> 01:09:31.303
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just like, you know, I'm just watch a luk with outdoor boys for the next 20 minutes, no building a fire or whatever.
01:09:31.343 --> 01:09:37.164
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't like the ones with this kids because I find kids annoying, but yeah, I know it's the, uh, it's still go.
01:09:37.184 --> 01:09:39.925
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like when it comes out on my TikTok at night on my hell.
01:09:39.965 --> 01:09:40.165
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:09:41.092 --> 01:09:45.415
[SPEAKER_08]: Now, he reminds me of a modern day, do you guys ever watch Survivor Men?
01:09:45.956 --> 01:09:46.176
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:09:46.716 --> 01:09:46.957
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
01:09:47.097 --> 01:09:48.478
[SPEAKER_08]: Like my mom called him Hokiejo.
01:09:48.558 --> 01:09:49.198
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not sure why.
01:09:49.218 --> 01:09:50.219
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just what grown up.
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.780
[SPEAKER_08]: What she called him.
01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:51.980
[SPEAKER_08]: Like Survivor Men.
01:09:52.321 --> 01:09:54.022
[SPEAKER_08]: Like it gives me the vibes to that.
01:09:54.042 --> 01:09:55.083
[SPEAKER_08]: Just this guy's very wholesome.
01:09:55.303 --> 01:09:58.806
[SPEAKER_08]: Like he just, I don't think there's anything that can ruin his mood.
01:09:59.006 --> 01:10:01.588
[SPEAKER_08]: And I just love how he's like, oh, I'm going to make some homemade bread.
01:10:01.608 --> 01:10:04.430
[SPEAKER_08]: And I'm like, you're just going to make campfire bread like this cinema.
01:10:04.550 --> 01:10:05.111
[SPEAKER_08]: Just absolutely.
01:10:06.488 --> 01:10:08.911
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's one of my favorite things to watch right now.
01:10:08.951 --> 01:10:10.894
[SPEAKER_03]: It's either that or whatever you guys have it.
01:10:11.114 --> 01:10:12.335
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you guys are going to take a look.
01:10:12.416 --> 01:10:13.437
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys seem like Mr.
01:10:14.078 --> 01:10:14.778
[SPEAKER_03]: Bow, Mr.
01:10:14.799 --> 01:10:15.840
[SPEAKER_03]: Bow, whatever his name is.
01:10:17.500 --> 01:10:18.180
[SPEAKER_03]: Guess you're looking up.
01:10:18.200 --> 01:10:23.961
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a Chinese homesteader, so he lives out in the country, but he makes everything.
01:10:24.001 --> 01:10:26.982
[SPEAKER_03]: He tries a food like he eats a candy.
01:10:27.002 --> 01:10:31.623
[SPEAKER_03]: He runs out of the candy, but he tries and he somehow knows the recipe to make the candy.
01:10:32.243 --> 01:10:32.823
[SPEAKER_03]: Guess you're looking up.
01:10:32.863 --> 01:10:33.583
[SPEAKER_03]: It's literally
01:10:42.952 --> 01:10:44.293
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I like it, I like it.
01:10:44.694 --> 01:10:46.896
[SPEAKER_08]: Say what movies have you seen?
01:10:46.936 --> 01:10:48.177
[SPEAKER_08]: Have you seen Pride time yet?
01:10:49.118 --> 01:10:51.761
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because it's only an AMC and I hate AMC.
01:10:52.261 --> 01:10:54.904
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a 824 doesn't have a contract with Harkins.
01:10:55.545 --> 01:10:56.285
[SPEAKER_03]: So I haven't watched it.
01:10:56.305 --> 01:11:00.269
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, like since I got surgery, I haven't been able to sit down for a long time.
01:11:00.289 --> 01:11:02.111
[SPEAKER_08]: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:11:02.632 --> 01:11:05.715
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I might go watch you either this weekend or next.
01:11:06.727 --> 01:11:09.908
[SPEAKER_03]: there's I want to digger the regular.
01:11:10.048 --> 01:11:13.609
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard it's not great because the reviews are all over the place.
01:11:13.749 --> 01:11:17.890
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to be very curious to see how the resin evil movie was good.
01:11:18.030 --> 01:11:18.610
[SPEAKER_08]: I want to see that.
01:11:18.910 --> 01:11:28.193
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, actually seems like it seems like it's not like, you know, I wanted one at action, but I've from what I've heard people that seen that they said it was a good, like, you know, good enough for a movie.
01:11:28.253 --> 01:11:29.433
[SPEAKER_08]: This, see, see D-backs.
01:11:29.613 --> 01:11:33.394
[SPEAKER_08]: This is what you need to make the fucking playoffs where you're talking about TV shows and movies,
01:11:36.115 --> 01:11:37.356
[SPEAKER_08]: TM and man, god damn it.
01:11:37.376 --> 01:11:39.338
[SPEAKER_08]: We do this this is our third year in road doing this.
01:11:39.398 --> 01:11:41.440
[SPEAKER_08]: Give us something to talk about in the postseason man.
01:11:42.280 --> 01:11:54.190
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh man, yeah, no, I like game set if you guys have any recommendations for shows and all that either drop it on the YouTube comments or again join our discord hop in there because again our discord like you know looking at the channels.
01:11:54.511 --> 01:11:58.614
[SPEAKER_08]: We got a video game discussion movies, you know fantasy football.
01:11:58.634 --> 01:11:58.934
[SPEAKER_08]: We got
01:11:59.975 --> 01:12:04.379
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, if you're like, do you back to memorabilia as you can see behind me all this fun stuff?
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:12.885
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, if you guys have something similar to that that you like to show off on your own, you know, make sure you guys join the discord and show it off and they're just, you know, give us all your recommendations all that in there.
01:12:13.806 --> 01:12:16.388
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, Scott says, Resident Evil exceeded my nothing expectations.
01:12:16.448 --> 01:12:17.489
[SPEAKER_08]: I exceeded it.
01:12:17.869 --> 01:12:18.770
[SPEAKER_08]: That's really all that matters.
01:12:19.010 --> 01:12:21.652
[SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes, you know, if you have low expectations, it wasn't a horrible movie.
01:12:22.133 --> 01:12:25.015
[SPEAKER_08]: That's sadly all we can ask for with the cinema nowadays.
01:12:25.075 --> 01:12:25.976
[SPEAKER_08]: But, um,
01:12:26.556 --> 01:12:37.604
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01:13:15.860 --> 01:13:21.163
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01:13:21.183 --> 01:13:21.843
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01:13:29.730 --> 01:13:54.518
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