Entertainment Industry Journey of Christopher Silveri, VP & Partner of UIA Talent

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Christopher Silveri: Welcome to Conversations with Aaliyah Ley. Tune
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Christopher Silveri: in for inspiration, information and upliftment as
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Christopher Silveri: creatives and entrepreneurs share their journeys, challenges
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Christopher Silveri: and successes.
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Alya Lei: Today we have amazing Christopher D. Silveri,
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Alya Lei: who takes great pride in his career
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Alya Lei: in the entertainment industry that has spanned
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Alya Lei: the last two decades. Since his graduation
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Alya Lei: from New York University Tisch School of
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Alya Lei: the Arts. Christopher is the partner and
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Alya Lei: vice president of of UIA Talent, a
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Alya Lei: talent agency with headquarters in New York
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Alya Lei: City. After a brief stint in acting,
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Alya Lei: Christopher began his entertainment career casting commercials
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Alya Lei: with Liz Lewis Casting partners, moved on
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Alya Lei: to representation to head up the legit
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Alya Lei: department theater, TV and film at Guillaroose
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Alya Lei: limited And began his management career as
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Alya Lei: the Vice president of talent management at
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Alya Lei: Prestige Management Group. Christopher started his own
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Alya Lei: talent management company in 2016, 2017. Serving
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Alya Lei: clients on both coasts and in all
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Alya Lei: mediums of the entertainment business. Christopher's clients
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Alya Lei: can be seen on every single television
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Alya Lei: network, including Amazon, Netflix, HBO, Showtime, Hulu,
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Alya Lei: Apple TV, plus TBS stars, etc. And
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Alya Lei: also on many major features films, the
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Alya Lei: Wolf of Wall street, etc. Many of
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Alya Lei: Christopher's clients also have national ad campaigns
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Alya Lei: and or major print advertisements running. Christopher
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Alya Lei: also does many seminars for those just
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Alya Lei: starting out in the entertainment industry, teaching
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Alya Lei: and participating in workshops in New York,
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Alya Lei: such as New York University, Pace University,
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Alya Lei: Brooklyn College and Washington D.C. christopher, thank
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Alya Lei: you so much.
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Christopher Silveri: It's been a long, a long journey.
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Alya Lei: This is so awesome. All right, Christopher,
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Alya Lei: I'm gonna just kind of start to
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Alya Lei: ask you, you started as an actor
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Alya Lei: first, right?
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Christopher Silveri: I sure did. I actually, if I
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Christopher Silveri: went into my real backstory before I
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Christopher Silveri: was of college age, I started out
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Christopher Silveri: actually as a dancer. Oh. Well, let's
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Christopher Silveri: just say when I was growing up
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Christopher Silveri: on Long Island, I used to play
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Christopher Silveri: baseball for my father's sake. And over
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Christopher Silveri: time, I started to just find a
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Christopher Silveri: fascination with all of the various different
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Christopher Silveri: things that I was seeing. And I
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Christopher Silveri: decided that I wanted to dance because
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Christopher Silveri: I thought it was such a beautiful
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Christopher Silveri: medium. So When I was 13, I
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Christopher Silveri: decided to tell my father I didn't
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Christopher Silveri: want to play baseball anymore. He loved
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Christopher Silveri: that. And I actually became a dancer.
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Christopher Silveri: I did a. I was late to
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Christopher Silveri: the game, clearly, because most people start
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Christopher Silveri: much earlier. But I then went into
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Christopher Silveri: a very, like, fast program and I
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Christopher Silveri: was part of a Glefski ballet company
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Christopher Silveri: on Long Island. Wow. You know, it
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Christopher Silveri: sounds awesome. Until, you know, a couple
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Christopher Silveri: of years into it, one of my
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Christopher Silveri: teachers, you know, poked me while I
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Christopher Silveri: was at the barn, was like, this
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Christopher Silveri: is soft. It shouldn't be. So, you
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Christopher Silveri: know, as with Dan, saying was not
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Christopher Silveri: exactly the right venue for me only
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Christopher Silveri: because I like French fries too much,
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Christopher Silveri: let's be honest. Anyways, so from there,
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Christopher Silveri: then I actually said, what can I
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Christopher Silveri: do to, you know, still move, but
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Christopher Silveri: tell stories through body and all that
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Christopher Silveri: stuff? And so I started to do
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Christopher Silveri: regional theater on Long island with Jamie
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Christopher Silveri: Lynn Siegler from Sopranos Natalie Portman at
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Christopher Silveri: Cultural Arts Playhouse on Long Island. And
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Christopher Silveri: that's how I kind of got into,
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Christopher Silveri: really, the acting portion. Then I realized,
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Christopher Silveri: oh, wow, I actually like to sing
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Christopher Silveri: and do all these things. And so
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Christopher Silveri: I specialized in that in high school
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Christopher Silveri: and started to do a lot. My
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Christopher Silveri: high school was actually a very close
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Christopher Silveri: relationship with mti, or Music Theater International,
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Christopher Silveri: and we were the first high school
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Christopher Silveri: to ever do les miserables junior. So
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Christopher Silveri: actually, Cameron McIntosh came to our high
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Christopher Silveri: school. Yes, of course. Many of my
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Christopher Silveri: schoolmates also then went on to many
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Christopher Silveri: big things, including Jenna Oshkowitz, who was
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Christopher Silveri: on Glee. She was in Les Mis
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Christopher Silveri: with me. Alexa.
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Alya Lei: Wow.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah. Alexa Green was in my school
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Christopher Silveri: as well. Who was Glinda on the
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Christopher Silveri: tour of Wicked or Linda. So, yeah,
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Christopher Silveri: I mean, it was definitely a huge
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Christopher Silveri: coup. And I did an early admission
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Christopher Silveri: to NYU, hoping to get into Cat
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Christopher Silveri: 21, which doesn't exist anymore. Now it's
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Christopher Silveri: the new School. I did not. I
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Christopher Silveri: got into Atlantic Theater Company. So I
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Christopher Silveri: guess that's a good thing and a
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Christopher Silveri: bad thing. They were basically like, sure,
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Christopher Silveri: you can sing. Let's get you into
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Christopher Silveri: an acting program. So, yeah, I was
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Christopher Silveri: actually at Atlantic Theatre Company at nyu,
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Christopher Silveri: which is where my acting career started.
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Christopher Silveri: And then from there, you know, the
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Christopher Silveri: rest is history.
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Alya Lei: So. So you. Okay, so you went
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Alya Lei: to nyu, got into the Atlantic Theater
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Alya Lei: Company. So you were what, around 18?
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Alya Lei: 19? 20. Around that time.
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Christopher Silveri: 17.
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Alya Lei: 17, yes.
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Christopher Silveri: I. I actually graduated early. I graduated
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Christopher Silveri: in three years because I had a
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Christopher Silveri: lot of AP credits and things like
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Christopher Silveri: that. So.
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Alya Lei: So you're saying you're a genius. Okay,
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Alya Lei: whatever.
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Christopher Silveri: No, no, I was only. I only
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Christopher Silveri: had those credits because I copied all
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Christopher Silveri: of my brother's answers for my AP
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Christopher Silveri: courses. No, yeah, I. Yeah, I mean,
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Christopher Silveri: I graduated early, so I was actually
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Christopher Silveri: out of college by 20, and I.
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Christopher Silveri: In my third year because NYU had
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Christopher Silveri: a rule that for the first two
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Christopher Silveri: years, you cannot leave your studio. So
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Christopher Silveri: I was in Atlantic for the first
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Christopher Silveri: two years, and then generally in the
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Christopher Silveri: third year, people switched to a different
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Christopher Silveri: studio. Most people went to Stone street
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Christopher Silveri: for film and television. I actually did
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Christopher Silveri: not. I was told that Jack from
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Christopher Silveri: Will and Grace was already cast and
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Christopher Silveri: I should find a new career. I
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Christopher Silveri: know, I know. Yes. It's well, different
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Christopher Silveri: time. Different time. I'm not that young,
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Christopher Silveri: darling. Different. Different era. And so from
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Christopher Silveri: there, it doesn't hurt, like, so bad.
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Alya Lei: I mean, it's like a. Well, first,
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Alya Lei: the poke in ballet when you're a
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Alya Lei: kid, which was. I know ballet back
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Alya Lei: then. I hear they're really working on
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Alya Lei: making ballet more open.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Alya Lei: But that hurts. And then this, the
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Alya Lei: Jack thing. Ow.
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Christopher Silveri: I mean, first of all, it's a
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Christopher Silveri: compliment. I wish I was as good
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Christopher Silveri: as Sean Hayes. But no, I mean,
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Christopher Silveri: honestly, it was painful, especially at that
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Christopher Silveri: age. And I spoke to many a
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Christopher Silveri: bottle of scotch about it. But that,
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Christopher Silveri: in retrospect, it was actually very helpful.
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Christopher Silveri: And the reason being it, in obviously,
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Christopher Silveri: in retrospect, I looked at it as
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Christopher Silveri: this was a passion and this was
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Christopher Silveri: an amazing way to do something for
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Christopher Silveri: myself, but I never looked at it
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Christopher Silveri: as a business. And that, for some
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Christopher Silveri: reason, was just not computing in my
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Christopher Silveri: brain when I was that young. And
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Christopher Silveri: so now looking back at it, I'm
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Christopher Silveri: like. And in actuality, if I didn't
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Christopher Silveri: take so much offense to it, I
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Christopher Silveri: would have seen that ultimately they were
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Christopher Silveri: trying to say, it's a business. What
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Christopher Silveri: is your brand? You know, but who
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Christopher Silveri: would take it from that kind of
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Christopher Silveri: comment, you know, at that age? So.
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Alya Lei: Right.
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Christopher Silveri: I am bittersweet about that. But at
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Christopher Silveri: the same point, it did help me
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Christopher Silveri: come to terms with the fact that
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Christopher Silveri: it is show business, not show fun.
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Christopher Silveri: So from there, instead of doing a
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Christopher Silveri: third year of studio in my final
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Christopher Silveri: year, I actually just started interning and
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Christopher Silveri: that counted as my studio credit. So
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Christopher Silveri: I actually worked at Liz Lewis Casting
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Christopher Silveri: Partners while still in college, and she
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Christopher Silveri: actually hired me before I graduated. So
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Christopher Silveri: I actually had a job in the
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Christopher Silveri: real world before I graduated college. So
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Christopher Silveri: I had a. An early start. I
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Christopher Silveri: mean, you know, I don't know if
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Christopher Silveri: that's good, but so.
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Alya Lei: So when you were. So you. So
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Alya Lei: you. You. You did pivot when you
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Alya Lei: heard that. You know, everyone has their
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Alya Lei: paths and obviously yours is very successful.
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Alya Lei: Just interesting. When did you realize the
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Alya Lei: show business part together versus show fun?
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Alya Lei: Right? Like, because it is a business.
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Alya Lei: And maybe that's what some of the.
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Alya Lei: A lot of actors don't realize that
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Alya Lei: are in it for the passion is
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Alya Lei: that it is a business. When did
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Alya Lei: you put the two and two together?
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Alya Lei: And what would you recommend to help
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Alya Lei: actors understand what that means as a
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Alya Lei: business?
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Christopher Silveri: It's hard. The first part I can
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Christopher Silveri: answer. The second part is a harder
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Christopher Silveri: one because I think everyone needs to
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Christopher Silveri: come to terms with it in their
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Christopher Silveri: own way because it can be A
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Christopher Silveri: very difficult pill to swallow for me.
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Christopher Silveri: The same person who told me that
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Christopher Silveri: Jack was already cast actually did a
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Christopher Silveri: business of acting class when I was
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Christopher Silveri: young. I mean, I don't think it
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Christopher Silveri: was exactly 100% a business of acting
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Christopher Silveri: class, but we had a wonderful activity
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Christopher Silveri: and they came into the classroom, had
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Christopher Silveri: a stack of headshots, threw them all
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Christopher Silveri: on the floor, and then put us
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Christopher Silveri: all into groups and said, create a
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Christopher Silveri: sitcom from these headshots.
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Alya Lei: Hmm.
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Christopher Silveri: We don't know who these people are.
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Christopher Silveri: Thank God.
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Alya Lei: Thank God for me.
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Christopher Silveri: Oh, no, that's not true. But. But
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Christopher Silveri: at many, many projects. Now they're not.
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Christopher Silveri: Now they're taking their limited amount for
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Christopher Silveri: It's not. And I, I kind of
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Alya Lei: Oh, wow, this is great. I mean,
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Alya Lei: go back. Let's go back. So you're
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Alya Lei: So you could just rebranded yourself into
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Christopher Silveri: Because I, I respect what they do
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Alya Lei: then you. And then it came to
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Christopher Silveri: I was pivoting before the panda how.
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Christopher Silveri: So Guillerus was primarily a commercial and
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Christopher Silveri: learned very quickly because I kind of.
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Christopher Silveri: I already had been dealing with a
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Christopher Silveri: lot of people in the representation angle,
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Christopher Silveri: and so I knew what was working
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Christopher Silveri: for me as a casting director. And
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Christopher Silveri: it was a very quick transition. And
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Christopher Silveri: then when he officially retired, it was
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Christopher Silveri: officially all of mine. So that was.
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Christopher Silveri: It was. It was a pretty good
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Christopher Silveri: transition.
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Alya Lei: Yeah. Wow. And did you have any
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Alya Lei: doubts, like, when you transitioned from casting
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Alya Lei: to being a talent agent, did you
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Alya Lei: have any doubts at all in terms
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Alya Lei: of what to. To do or. Or
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Alya Lei: because you had some mentorship for that
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Alya Lei: couple of months that, that really helped
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Alya Lei: transition you into a new parallel, but
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Alya Lei: within the same industry.
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Christopher Silveri: But it's a great question. I don't.
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Christopher Silveri: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure
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Christopher Silveri: I did, but I was also in
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Christopher Silveri: my early 20s, and I think that
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Christopher Silveri: I was just so hungry, and I
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Christopher Silveri: thought I could take on anything and
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Christopher Silveri: then never experience the negative. And if
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Christopher Silveri: I did, then I turn it around
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Christopher Silveri: and work the positive. So was I
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Christopher Silveri: nervous? The only thing that made me
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Christopher Silveri: nervous was when I became an agent.
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Christopher Silveri: At the time, SAG and afra, not
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Christopher Silveri: sag, aftra, they both basically made me
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Christopher Silveri: sign away my rights to ever become
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Christopher Silveri: a casting director again. What they said,
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Christopher Silveri: as long as you are no Longer
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Christopher Silveri: interested in being a casting director because
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Christopher Silveri: that is a conflict of interest because
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Christopher Silveri: I would not be able to represent
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Christopher Silveri: people as well as cast them, which
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Christopher Silveri: was kind of like, that was around
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Christopher Silveri: the time when they were trying to
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Christopher Silveri: get managers in the SAG aftra. Like
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Christopher Silveri: there's a lot of different situations there.
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Christopher Silveri: But suffice it to say, I did
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Christopher Silveri: have to say I am, I'm not
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Christopher Silveri: casting. I have no interest in coming
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Christopher Silveri: into representation with the opportunity to double
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Christopher Silveri: dip and cast my people, which would
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Christopher Silveri: then. Yeah, it was very, it was,
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Christopher Silveri: it was appropriate for the unions, but
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Christopher Silveri: it was just not something that really,
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Christopher Silveri: I knew how to do. So that
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Christopher Silveri: was an interesting moment, but it was
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Christopher Silveri: nothing bad.
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Alya Lei: Yeah, yeah. So you like, so now
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Alya Lei: does that still apply today? Like you
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Alya Lei: literally cannot do any casting still?
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Christopher Silveri: Well, if you're a rep, yes. Yeah,
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Christopher Silveri: that is correct. Oh yeah.
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Alya Lei: Okay.
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Christopher Silveri: There are some casting directors that act.
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
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Christopher Silveri: But that is not something that has
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Christopher Silveri: ever, ever been, you know, in question.
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Christopher Silveri: Like people can do that. But as
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Christopher Silveri: far as representation and casting. No.
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
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Christopher Silveri: And also those unions will also say
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Christopher Silveri: you can't be a producer. That happened
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Christopher Silveri: back in the early aughts with CAA
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Christopher Silveri: and wme, basically with what they call
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Christopher Silveri: packaging. That was a huge thing. So
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Christopher Silveri: because caa, wme, uta, icm, which some
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Christopher Silveri: of them, you know, they would basically
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Christopher Silveri: represent all people for a production, which
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Christopher Silveri: means that they represented the writer, director
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Christopher Silveri: and star.
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
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Christopher Silveri: And so they would then sell those
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Christopher Silveri: people and that product to a studio.
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Christopher Silveri: And so basically that means that they
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Christopher Silveri: were double dipping because they were not
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Christopher Silveri: only getting a percentage of commission from
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Christopher Silveri: the that person that they represented, but
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Christopher Silveri: also a percentage of the commission from
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Christopher Silveri: it as a whole as a sale
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Christopher Silveri: to said studio or network. And so
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Christopher Silveri: the state actually and the unions both
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Christopher Silveri: cracked down on that and said, you
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Christopher Silveri: cannot do that as an agent. So
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Christopher Silveri: that's where that kind of situation became
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Christopher Silveri: a thing of they're trying to say
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Christopher Silveri: you can't produce and be an agent.
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Christopher Silveri: Which is why a lot of people
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Christopher Silveri: became managers around that time. A lot
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Christopher Silveri: of people said, well, I want to
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Christopher Silveri: continue to do that. And so they
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Christopher Silveri: just remove themselves from the unions. And
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Christopher Silveri: it's also why the managers never would
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Christopher Silveri: agree to becoming part of the unions
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Christopher Silveri: because they were like, no, that's how
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Christopher Silveri: we make most of our money in
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Christopher Silveri: that we are working with people who
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Christopher Silveri: are multi hyphenates and we need to
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Christopher Silveri: commission whatever we work on.
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Alya Lei: Right.
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Christopher Silveri: So there's a lot of gray area
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Christopher Silveri: there. But some suffice it to say
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Christopher Silveri: now with franchise agents, part of the
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Christopher Silveri: unions they, that still exists, you cannot
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Christopher Silveri: produce, you cannot be a casting director
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Christopher Silveri: because that would be a way of
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Christopher Silveri: you getting around their rules of saying
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Christopher Silveri: you must employ the actor.
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Alya Lei: Okay. Okay. Because it seems like they're
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Alya Lei: still doing packaging though, right? Like, no,
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Alya Lei: you know, I don't know.
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Christopher Silveri: Everyone who wants to do something will
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Christopher Silveri: find ways to do it. Whether or
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Christopher Silveri: not it's illegal is another story. Is,
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Christopher Silveri: is basically the, the only way I
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Christopher Silveri: can really reply to that. I, I,
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Christopher Silveri: I won't say that it doesn't happen,
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Christopher Silveri: and I won't say that it does
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Christopher Silveri: happen, but yeah, in so many words,
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Christopher Silveri: it, there are ways around things, but
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Christopher Silveri: I don't do that. I, I mean,
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Christopher Silveri: that's why, you know, my, my wonderful
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Christopher Silveri: father would always say, why don't you
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Christopher Silveri: just go and work at the CAA
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Christopher Silveri: mail room and then work your way
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Christopher Silveri: up? And I was like, just that
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Christopher Silveri: business ethic never worked for me personally.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah.
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Alya Lei: Cool. Okay. Thank you. That was very
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Alya Lei: informative.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah.
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Alya Lei: So, okay, so now you're an agent.
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Alya Lei: Not only an agent, President of Guillaroos.
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Alya Lei: And so, and how long were you
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Alya Lei: there for? And when and why did
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Alya Lei: you transition?
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Christopher Silveri: About a year. And, yeah, I know,
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Christopher Silveri: a year and a half. And that
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Christopher Silveri: was back in 2008, which was the
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Christopher Silveri: wonderful financial crisis. And I do distinctly
603
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Christopher Silveri: recall the owner at the time saying,
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Christopher Silveri: I can't afford to pay you anymore.
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Christopher Silveri: And I said, well, I can't afford
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Christopher Silveri: to work here anymore. So, which actually
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Christopher Silveri: wasn't a bad thing, per se. It
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Christopher Silveri: was just the nature of where we
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Christopher Silveri: were in the industry. Yeah. Because again,
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Christopher Silveri: our industry is very tied to corporate
611
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Christopher Silveri: America. As much as we don't like
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Christopher Silveri: to believe it, it is true. And
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Christopher Silveri: so from there, I basically had the
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Christopher Silveri: opportunity to take my entire client list
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Christopher Silveri: and just go shop it around. Okay.
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Christopher Silveri: Now, unfortunately, other agencies were also closing
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Christopher Silveri: at that time, so that was not
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Christopher Silveri: really the best of options. And so
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Christopher Silveri: I got the opportunity to actually work
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Christopher Silveri: with a management company, which was even
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Christopher Silveri: better for me at the time because
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Christopher Silveri: it was a way for me to
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Christopher Silveri: then kind of whittle down my client
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Christopher Silveri: list to make sure that I could
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Christopher Silveri: really pay attention to the ones that,
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Christopher Silveri: that I cared so much about. And
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Christopher Silveri: I felt that they needed my personalized
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Christopher Silveri: attention. Now, that's not to say I
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Christopher Silveri: didn't care about the other ones. It's
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Christopher Silveri: just to say it kind of made
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Christopher Silveri: me focus a little bit more on
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Christopher Silveri: my work for them. Yeah. And how,
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Christopher Silveri: how necessary it is to have that
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Christopher Silveri: level of communication and work with each
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Christopher Silveri: person as they are trying to break
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Christopher Silveri: into a business. That is oversaturated. So
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Christopher Silveri: that's how I started it in management
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Christopher Silveri: with Prestige Management Group, and I was
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Christopher Silveri: there for nine and a half years,
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Christopher Silveri: and it was amazing.
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Alya Lei: That's a good amount of time.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah, I know. I'm old.
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Alya Lei: No, I don't think that. Look it,
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Alya Lei: right, we, we've talked about that. But
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Alya Lei: you're, you're. That, that's fantastic that you
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Alya Lei: were there for nine years. That, I
647
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Alya Lei: mean, that shows that that was a
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Alya Lei: great company and a really great fit.
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Alya Lei: Right. Because you were there for nine.
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Alya Lei: While you were there. You know, what
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Alya Lei: I'm hearing overall in general so far
652
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Alya Lei: is, like, it seems like every time
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Alya Lei: there was what would be considered an
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Alya Lei: obstacle or a challenge or a shift,
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Alya Lei: you just shifted with it. Like, you
656
00:29:32,276 --> 00:29:36,508
Alya Lei: just kept shifting and moving forward. Like,
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Alya Lei: you shifted and moved forward. You shifted
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Alya Lei: and moved forward. Like, every time you've
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Alya Lei: shifted and moved forward is what I'm
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Alya Lei: hearing. It's very cool. And that you
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Alya Lei: really believed in yourself when you were
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Alya Lei: in your 20s.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah, well, I don't know. I don't
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Christopher Silveri: know where that came from. Probably those
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Christopher Silveri: bottles of scotch or something. I don't
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Christopher Silveri: know. But, yeah, no, I mean, I
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Christopher Silveri: do think that this industry in and
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Christopher Silveri: of itself is a shifting industry. And
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Christopher Silveri: so for me, each time that those
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Christopher Silveri: obstacles presented, my option was to just
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Christopher Silveri: throw my hands up and say effort
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Christopher Silveri: or shift with it and try to
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Christopher Silveri: move forward. You know, the definition of
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Christopher Silveri: insanity is doing the same thing over
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Christopher Silveri: and over, expecting a different result. And
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Christopher Silveri: so I knew that each time that
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Christopher Silveri: these obstacles presented themselves, I had to
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Christopher Silveri: switch gears in order to continue on,
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Christopher Silveri: and I could never give this industry
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Christopher Silveri: up.
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Alya Lei: Yeah, you love the industry.
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Christopher Silveri: I do. I do. I was always
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Christopher Silveri: a huge fan of acting and storytelling
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Christopher Silveri: and just art in general.
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
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Christopher Silveri: And that is why I would continue
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Christopher Silveri: to pivot. And honestly, it's helped me
688
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Christopher Silveri: a lot because, let's just be honest.
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Christopher Silveri: I mean, what happened, like 2020 and
690
00:31:05,446 --> 00:31:08,270
Christopher Silveri: then what happened in 2023? Like, these
691
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:10,526
Christopher Silveri: are huge obstacles. But I had already
692
00:31:10,598 --> 00:31:12,750
Christopher Silveri: had the experience of pivoting to make
693
00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:16,942
Christopher Silveri: sure that there's still possible ways of
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Christopher Silveri: income and making this my life.
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00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:22,146
Alya Lei: Yeah. Yeah. And you still love it?
696
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Christopher Silveri: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Alya Lei: Yeah. Very cool. All right, so prestige.
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00:31:28,578 --> 00:31:35,190
Alya Lei: Amazing. Huge clients. Amazing. Next pivot.
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Christopher Silveri: Next pivot was actually the pain easiest.
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Christopher Silveri: No, Actually, no. I, I, I mean,
701
00:31:43,962 --> 00:31:46,968
Christopher Silveri: in, in no uncertain terms. I, I
702
00:31:47,024 --> 00:31:51,160
Christopher Silveri: wanted to have authority. I wanted to
703
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Christopher Silveri: have my own yes. Roster rather than
704
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Christopher Silveri: try to ask someone else if they
705
00:31:57,776 --> 00:31:59,832
Christopher Silveri: believed in who I thought should be
706
00:31:59,856 --> 00:32:01,992
Christopher Silveri: brought on or things like that. And
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00:32:02,096 --> 00:32:04,488
Christopher Silveri: and you know, hello, my daddy issues
708
00:32:04,544 --> 00:32:06,712
Christopher Silveri: and authority issues is that like, I
709
00:32:06,736 --> 00:32:10,136
Christopher Silveri: just, I wanted things to be on
710
00:32:10,208 --> 00:32:13,160
Christopher Silveri: my terms and I didn't want to
711
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Christopher Silveri: have to split money with other people
712
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Christopher Silveri: who were doing these things for me.
713
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,628
Christopher Silveri: And so there I, I thought the,
714
00:32:20,764 --> 00:32:23,044
Christopher Silveri: the easiest way to do that was
715
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Christopher Silveri: to have my own company.
716
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
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Christopher Silveri: Now, of course, that comes with all
718
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:29,572
Christopher Silveri: of the business crap that you got
719
00:32:29,596 --> 00:32:33,556
Christopher Silveri: to deal with. So that was definitely
720
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Christopher Silveri: a new thing for me. But yeah,
721
00:32:36,436 --> 00:32:38,900
Christopher Silveri: the same point. If that is all
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Christopher Silveri: it took for me to have that
723
00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:43,332
Christopher Silveri: authority, it was worth it. And so
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Christopher Silveri: that's. That's how I then started my
725
00:32:45,716 --> 00:32:49,452
Christopher Silveri: own company, Center Stage Management. And it
726
00:32:49,476 --> 00:32:52,652
Christopher Silveri: was brilliant. Of course, probably not of
727
00:32:52,676 --> 00:32:54,012
Christopher Silveri: the best of times because that was
728
00:32:54,036 --> 00:32:56,460
Christopher Silveri: in 2017. So I only had three
729
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,348
Christopher Silveri: years before the world went upside down.
730
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Christopher Silveri: But yeah. So if I just say
731
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Christopher Silveri: I still managed to hold on to
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Christopher Silveri: my company for seven and a half
733
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Christopher Silveri: years all on my own, even with
734
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Christopher Silveri: the panda. So I don't know, it
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Christopher Silveri: works for me.
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Alya Lei: Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. So you had
737
00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:14,836
Alya Lei: to learn like all this business stuff
738
00:33:14,868 --> 00:33:16,612
Alya Lei: that you didn't know before once you
739
00:33:16,636 --> 00:33:18,200
Alya Lei: became your own entity.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah.
741
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Alya Lei: And it, and it just sounds like
742
00:33:21,916 --> 00:33:26,932
Alya Lei: you knew what you wanted and you
743
00:33:26,956 --> 00:33:28,000
Alya Lei: went for it.
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Christopher Silveri: When I make up my mind, I
745
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:32,260
Christopher Silveri: make up my mind. I may not
746
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,012
Christopher Silveri: think through the details of it 100,
747
00:33:35,196 --> 00:33:37,816
Christopher Silveri: but I'm like, mind made up. We'll
748
00:33:37,848 --> 00:33:38,808
Christopher Silveri: figure it out.
749
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Alya Lei: Yeah, yeah. So your mind's made up.
750
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Alya Lei: You take that action, you're like. And
751
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,952
Alya Lei: you'll. And then you just figure it
752
00:33:46,976 --> 00:33:48,260
Alya Lei: out as you go along.
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00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,136
Christopher Silveri: Yeah. It's called life.
754
00:33:50,208 --> 00:33:50,840
Alya Lei: Fantastic.
755
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,272
Christopher Silveri: We'll never know every single thing that
756
00:33:53,296 --> 00:33:55,480
Christopher Silveri: could possibly go right or wrong. And
757
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Christopher Silveri: that's why I think that has just
758
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,160
Christopher Silveri: always been my MO in life is
759
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,314
Christopher Silveri: just like, take the step. What happens
760
00:34:03,362 --> 00:34:05,906
Christopher Silveri: in that step forward? Yeah, we don't
761
00:34:05,938 --> 00:34:07,618
Christopher Silveri: know. But if you don't take it,
762
00:34:07,674 --> 00:34:08,830
Christopher Silveri: you won't know.
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Alya Lei: I love that. That's so good. Wow.
764
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Alya Lei: You are bold. You are a bold
765
00:34:14,898 --> 00:34:17,890
Alya Lei: bad ass. I don't know if I
766
00:34:17,930 --> 00:34:19,070
Alya Lei: can say that.
767
00:34:19,530 --> 00:34:20,578
Christopher Silveri: Why? Not sure.
768
00:34:20,634 --> 00:34:24,818
Alya Lei: I don't know. Awesome. Okay. So your
769
00:34:24,874 --> 00:34:28,892
Alya Lei: own management company. Amazing. Survived through the
770
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Alya Lei: panda. Crazy. Because there was nothing going
771
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,244
Alya Lei: on then or it's just like. Yeah,
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00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:40,540
Alya Lei: yeah, right. And finally now you are
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00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:43,680
Alya Lei: at UIA. Yes, yes.
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Christopher Silveri: That actually happened because in 2023, which
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Christopher Silveri: I like to refer to as dumpster
776
00:34:51,548 --> 00:34:52,120
Christopher Silveri: fire.
777
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Alya Lei: 2020, that commercial, the 2020. What was
778
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:59,950
Alya Lei: that? There was that commercial with the
779
00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:02,718
Alya Lei: devil and he like finally met his
780
00:35:02,854 --> 00:35:04,654
Alya Lei: love of his life, which was like,
781
00:35:04,742 --> 00:35:08,894
Alya Lei: what was it? 20, 20, 2023. I
782
00:35:08,902 --> 00:35:09,758
Alya Lei: don't remember.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah, I think I, I have seen
784
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,590
Christopher Silveri: that one. Yeah, it's like, look, 2023
785
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:17,774
Christopher Silveri: was a hard year for everyone, not
786
00:35:17,862 --> 00:35:24,570
Christopher Silveri: just the on camera world. And yeah,
787
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:28,058
Christopher Silveri: it just changed perspectives because I'm not
788
00:35:28,194 --> 00:35:31,690
Christopher Silveri: a 20 something anymore. And the seven
789
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:33,082
Christopher Silveri: and a half years that I was
790
00:35:33,106 --> 00:35:35,962
Christopher Silveri: running my own company, I specialized in
791
00:35:35,986 --> 00:35:37,770
Christopher Silveri: film and television. I mean, I did
792
00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:39,402
Christopher Silveri: have theater people as well, don't get
793
00:35:39,426 --> 00:35:41,626
Christopher Silveri: me wrong, because, you know, coming from
794
00:35:41,698 --> 00:35:43,690
Christopher Silveri: my background, of course I will never
795
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:47,522
Christopher Silveri: turn down a good theater. But people
796
00:35:47,626 --> 00:35:49,810
Christopher Silveri: I noticed were always coming to me
797
00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:52,082
Christopher Silveri: for film and television. Like they had
798
00:35:52,106 --> 00:35:53,842
Christopher Silveri: already gotten their Broadway credit and then
799
00:35:53,866 --> 00:35:55,154
Christopher Silveri: they got bored with it and so
800
00:35:55,162 --> 00:35:55,922
Christopher Silveri: they were like, I want to do
801
00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:57,554
Christopher Silveri: film and television. There's so much to
802
00:35:57,562 --> 00:35:58,434
Christopher Silveri: do in New York.
803
00:35:58,522 --> 00:35:58,962
Alya Lei: Yeah.
804
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Christopher Silveri: So I ended up being very specialized
805
00:36:01,762 --> 00:36:03,986
Christopher Silveri: in film and television as a manager,
806
00:36:04,178 --> 00:36:10,610
Christopher Silveri: and that made 2023 really hard. So
807
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:13,142
Christopher Silveri: there I was in the middle of
808
00:36:13,306 --> 00:36:16,318
Christopher Silveri: a dual strike, which has not happened
809
00:36:16,414 --> 00:36:18,330
Christopher Silveri: since I've been alive actually.
810
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:21,022
Alya Lei: And they were long.
811
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Christopher Silveri: And they were long, long strikes. Yeah,
812
00:36:24,622 --> 00:36:26,510
Christopher Silveri: I, I can't, I'm not going to
813
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:29,422
Christopher Silveri: make comment on, you know, the good
814
00:36:29,446 --> 00:36:31,166
Christopher Silveri: or the bad of those strikes because
815
00:36:31,238 --> 00:36:33,246
Christopher Silveri: it. Everyone has their own thoughts. It's
816
00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:36,142
Christopher Silveri: just regardless of the good or the
817
00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:37,838
Christopher Silveri: negative that came out, I think people
818
00:36:37,894 --> 00:36:40,776
Christopher Silveri: forget it still happened for nine months.
819
00:36:40,928 --> 00:36:43,864
Alya Lei: Yeah. No one was making any money.
820
00:36:44,032 --> 00:36:47,096
Christopher Silveri: Anyone. Any money. And especially when you're
821
00:36:47,128 --> 00:36:48,472
Christopher Silveri: a business owner.
822
00:36:48,616 --> 00:36:49,224
Alya Lei: Yeah.
823
00:36:49,352 --> 00:36:51,592
Christopher Silveri: Where is any money coming from? And
824
00:36:51,616 --> 00:36:53,864
Christopher Silveri: my life is my business. So it
825
00:36:53,872 --> 00:36:56,408
Christopher Silveri: was definitely a moment of realization, of
826
00:36:56,464 --> 00:37:00,696
Christopher Silveri: saying, I need to expand. I need
827
00:37:00,848 --> 00:37:04,152
Christopher Silveri: to not just specialize in film and
828
00:37:04,176 --> 00:37:06,664
Christopher Silveri: television. I need to have other sources
829
00:37:06,712 --> 00:37:08,968
Christopher Silveri: of income for my actors.
830
00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:10,920
Alya Lei: There you go pivoting again.
831
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,256
Christopher Silveri: Yeah, and there I am pivoting again.
832
00:37:13,328 --> 00:37:15,240
Christopher Silveri: And you know, some people were more
833
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,872
Christopher Silveri: than happy to take on any theater
834
00:37:16,936 --> 00:37:18,840
Christopher Silveri: project that came on their way. Other
835
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,392
Christopher Silveri: people were like, I'm gonna ride it
836
00:37:20,416 --> 00:37:22,968
Christopher Silveri: out with SAG Aftra and you know,
837
00:37:23,104 --> 00:37:25,144
Christopher Silveri: that's great for them. I mean, stand,
838
00:37:25,232 --> 00:37:29,208
Christopher Silveri: stand your ground. However, for me, that.
839
00:37:29,344 --> 00:37:32,712
Christopher Silveri: That's not fiscally savvy, let's just say
840
00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:36,808
Christopher Silveri: that. So anyways, over the past couple
841
00:37:36,824 --> 00:37:38,472
Christopher Silveri: of years though, I had shared clients
842
00:37:38,536 --> 00:37:40,072
Christopher Silveri: as a manager and then they were
843
00:37:40,096 --> 00:37:42,552
Christopher Silveri: the agents with Aaron and Nicole and
844
00:37:42,576 --> 00:37:45,704
Christopher Silveri: Heather at UIA. Yes. And they actually
845
00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:49,064
Christopher Silveri: recently approached me in early 2024 and
846
00:37:49,152 --> 00:37:52,072
Christopher Silveri: said, would you ever consider becoming a
847
00:37:52,096 --> 00:37:55,640
Christopher Silveri: partner here? We love film and television.
848
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:58,248
Christopher Silveri: It's not necessarily our strength, but it's
849
00:37:58,264 --> 00:38:00,072
Christopher Silveri: definitely something that we have here and
850
00:38:00,096 --> 00:38:02,194
Christopher Silveri: we do do, and we would love,
851
00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:03,970
Christopher Silveri: you know, if that would be something
852
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:06,370
Christopher Silveri: that you're interested in because we understand
853
00:38:06,490 --> 00:38:08,946
Christopher Silveri: that we're trying to expand to multiple
854
00:38:08,978 --> 00:38:10,562
Christopher Silveri: different streams of income. And I was
855
00:38:10,586 --> 00:38:12,082
Christopher Silveri: like, that's a great idea. Oh, my
856
00:38:12,106 --> 00:38:13,522
Christopher Silveri: God, I wish I thought of that
857
00:38:13,546 --> 00:38:17,890
Christopher Silveri: as a manager. So it was really.
858
00:38:18,010 --> 00:38:19,394
Christopher Silveri: I mean, it was a long process
859
00:38:19,482 --> 00:38:21,378
Christopher Silveri: because that was back in, what, February,
860
00:38:21,474 --> 00:38:23,730
Christopher Silveri: and it wasn't until August that I
861
00:38:23,770 --> 00:38:26,450
Christopher Silveri: started at uia. So clearly, you know,
862
00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:29,650
Christopher Silveri: lots of financial due diligence and all
863
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:33,092
Christopher Silveri: those lawyers. But it was a great.
864
00:38:33,196 --> 00:38:35,092
Christopher Silveri: I know, right? But it was a
865
00:38:35,116 --> 00:38:38,052
Christopher Silveri: great step forward because that way I
866
00:38:38,076 --> 00:38:40,932
Christopher Silveri: wasn't the only person that was responsible
867
00:38:40,996 --> 00:38:43,380
Christopher Silveri: for every single thing. I came into
868
00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:45,892
Christopher Silveri: a place that had the infrastructure, and
869
00:38:45,916 --> 00:38:48,100
Christopher Silveri: I could get back to really just
870
00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:50,116
Christopher Silveri: focusing on the love that I have
871
00:38:50,188 --> 00:38:52,948
Christopher Silveri: for my actors, for the work, for
872
00:38:53,004 --> 00:38:55,284
Christopher Silveri: doing those things, but still being a
873
00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:58,062
Christopher Silveri: partner and being an owner. So it
874
00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:01,390
Christopher Silveri: was. It was the right fit. And
875
00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:03,454
Christopher Silveri: obviously, you know, I love my peeps
876
00:39:03,502 --> 00:39:05,502
Christopher Silveri: over at uia. I mean, it's. We
877
00:39:05,526 --> 00:39:07,326
Christopher Silveri: have a very family vibe because we're
878
00:39:07,358 --> 00:39:09,582
Christopher Silveri: always working for one another as well
879
00:39:09,606 --> 00:39:13,102
Christopher Silveri: as our actors. So it was the
880
00:39:13,126 --> 00:39:17,262
Christopher Silveri: perfect timing. And that's. That's kind of
881
00:39:17,286 --> 00:39:19,630
Christopher Silveri: my whole feel. That's how I got
882
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:20,970
Christopher Silveri: to where I am today.
883
00:39:21,350 --> 00:39:24,334
Alya Lei: Nice. Just to clarify, when it was
884
00:39:24,502 --> 00:39:26,574
Alya Lei: just the idea of paperwork and having.
885
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Christopher Silveri: Oh, no.
886
00:39:27,606 --> 00:39:28,622
Alya Lei: Like, all.
887
00:39:28,806 --> 00:39:30,622
Christopher Silveri: Oh, I agree with you. Are you
888
00:39:30,646 --> 00:39:31,250
Christopher Silveri: kidding?
889
00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:35,070
Alya Lei: Any last things that you would love
890
00:39:35,110 --> 00:39:40,878
Alya Lei: to impart to inspire or keep people
891
00:39:40,934 --> 00:39:44,590
Alya Lei: on target or anything that you wish
892
00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:48,238
Alya Lei: people could have told you that would
893
00:39:48,294 --> 00:39:51,422
Alya Lei: help you so much more smoothly go
894
00:39:51,446 --> 00:39:53,310
Alya Lei: through all your privacy pivots?
895
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Christopher Silveri: I don't like to make it about
896
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Christopher Silveri: me, so I'm going to go with
897
00:39:56,946 --> 00:39:58,938
Christopher Silveri: the first portion of that question. I'd
898
00:39:58,954 --> 00:40:00,602
Christopher Silveri: like to say things that I like
899
00:40:00,626 --> 00:40:04,314
Christopher Silveri: to impart to actors. Get out of
900
00:40:04,322 --> 00:40:07,034
Christopher Silveri: your head. Get out of your head
901
00:40:07,122 --> 00:40:09,802
Christopher Silveri: and think that there's something that you
902
00:40:09,826 --> 00:40:12,762
Christopher Silveri: can do to make this work for
903
00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:18,868
Christopher Silveri: you? The answer is, all in due
904
00:40:18,924 --> 00:40:22,020
Christopher Silveri: time. There are some people who you
905
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:24,148
Christopher Silveri: don't even know who they are until
906
00:40:24,204 --> 00:40:27,348
Christopher Silveri: they're in their 50s. One of my
907
00:40:27,404 --> 00:40:29,800
Christopher Silveri: favorite performers is Allison Janney.
908
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:31,320
Alya Lei: Oh, yes.
909
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:34,980
Christopher Silveri: I'm sorry. She had never won an
910
00:40:35,020 --> 00:40:37,060
Christopher Silveri: award until she was well into her
911
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:40,068
Christopher Silveri: 50s. Trust me, she was acting before
912
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Christopher Silveri: then.
913
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Alya Lei: Yeah.
914
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:44,580
Christopher Silveri: And was around for a very long
915
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:47,500
Christopher Silveri: time before then. But sometimes things just
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Christopher Silveri: fall into place. Everything everywhere, all at
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Christopher Silveri: once.
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Alya Lei: That was such a great movie.
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Christopher Silveri: Right. But it just. It like, these
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Christopher Silveri: are the ways that the world works.
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Christopher Silveri: You can't control the universe. And I
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Christopher Silveri: know that we, in such an industry
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Christopher Silveri: with so many question marks, try to.
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Christopher Silveri: We try to Find a control. Don't,
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Christopher Silveri: because it's not gonna work. It's just
926
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Christopher Silveri: gonna piss you off and get you
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Christopher Silveri: frustrated every day. Know that it happens
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Christopher Silveri: when it happens. If. Trust me, if
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Christopher Silveri: I had a success guide, then I'd
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Christopher Silveri: be living in some sort of mansion
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Christopher Silveri: out in Malibu Hills, like, because then
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Christopher Silveri: I would do that for everyone. Like,
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Christopher Silveri: why would I not do that? There
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Christopher Silveri: is no one way, and there is
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Christopher Silveri: no one thing that's going to work
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Christopher Silveri: for everyone. So don't try to control
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Christopher Silveri: it. Accept it when it comes with
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Christopher Silveri: gracious, open arms.
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Alya Lei: Yeah, I love that. Thank you. All
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Alya Lei: right, last. Last question. Silly question. Silly
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Alya Lei: question. All right, let's do this. 1.
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Alya Lei: Two truths and a lie.
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Christopher Silveri: Oh, do you know that one? I
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Christopher Silveri: do, but, like, I haven't played it
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Christopher Silveri: in a while, so, like, I don't
946
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Christopher Silveri: know. Or at least I haven't played
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Christopher Silveri: it in a more professional setting.
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Alya Lei: Safe for work. Safe for work.
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Christopher Silveri: Exactly. I know. That's a whole new
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Christopher Silveri: thing I'm learning at uia, too. Hello.
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Christopher Silveri: No teachers and a lie. I. I
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Christopher Silveri: miss acting. I. My favorite movie is
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Christopher Silveri: clue from 1985, and my favorite television
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Christopher Silveri: show is Will and Grace. Can you
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Christopher Silveri: guess which one's the line?
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Alya Lei: Okay, I'm gonna guess.
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Christopher Silveri: Go for it.
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Alya Lei: But I'm giving it some time, so,
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Alya Lei: you know, anyone listening can guess too.
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Christopher Silveri: Mm.
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Alya Lei: I'm gonna guess. The lie is willing
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Alya Lei: Grace is your favorite show.
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Christopher Silveri: Wrong. Go. Ah. My lie is I
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Christopher Silveri: miss acting. Wow.
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Alya Lei: You don't miss acting? That's great. I
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Alya Lei: mean, considering what you're doing, that is
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Alya Lei: great.
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Christopher Silveri: Well, it took some time, I will
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Christopher Silveri: say. It did. It definitely took some
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Christopher Silveri: time. But I will say I. There
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Christopher Silveri: are moments in my life where I'm
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Christopher Silveri: like, oh, it was so nice to
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Christopher Silveri: tell those stories, but the amount of
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Christopher Silveri: sheer vulnerability that you have to have
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Christopher Silveri: as an actor is something that I'm
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Christopher Silveri: just not good at.
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Alya Lei: Oh.
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Christopher Silveri: And I. And I don't like doing
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Christopher Silveri: that, so I think it's one of
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Christopher Silveri: those things that probably. I never will
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Christopher Silveri: miss acting because I'm. I'm getting to
982
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Christopher Silveri: an age where I. I'm setting my
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Christopher Silveri: ways now, so I'm. I ain't going
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Christopher Silveri: back, so. Yeah, that's actually life and
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Christopher Silveri: Will and Grace was one of my
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Christopher Silveri: favorites. The original, not the reboot. And
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Christopher Silveri: Clue is my favorite movie.
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Alya Lei: Ah. I never saw Clue. I love
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Alya Lei: Will and Grace, so.
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Christopher Silveri: Yeah.
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Alya Lei: Well, cool. Thank you so much. I
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Alya Lei: appreciate.
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Christopher Silveri: It's my pleasure.
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Alya Lei: Thank you so much for listening to
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Alya Lei: conversations with Aaliyah Lei. I'd love to
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Alya Lei: hear from you. Follow me. On Instagram
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