Community Connection With Tina Cosby
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Community Connection - October 15, 2026 - Tina Cosby's guests talk sports, city parks and voting

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**Community Connection: Exploring the Impact of Public Question Number One**

Today on Community Connection, Tina opens with Danny Bridges, Indianapolis Recorder Sportswriter.  Then the conversation turns to the Rev. Mozel Sanders Park Project with Tiffany Johnson, Project Manager along with Tedd Hardy, Friends of Belmont Beach, Jenny Boyts, The Parks Alliance of Indianapolis, Martina Jackson, Friends of Belmont, Greg Harger, Friends of Belmont. Later we're diving into the complexities of public question number one on the Indiana ballot. This constitutional amendment has sparked concerns among many, particularly in the minority community, and our guests are here to break it down. Joining us are Indiana State Representative Cherish Pryor and Senator Greg Taylor, who share their insights on the potential implications of this amendment.

The conversation touches on the history of bail in the United States, the Black Codes of Bail, and how this amendment could disproportionately affect marginalized communities. Our guests also discuss the importance of education and awareness, especially in the midst of early voting. They emphasize that it's crucial for the public to understand the issue and make informed decisions.

As we explore the amendment's potential impact, our guests highlight the need for a more nuanced approach to bail reform. They discuss the importance of considering the consequences of denying bail, particularly for those who may be innocent until proven guilty. The conversation also delves into the history of bail in the United States and how it has been used to control and oppress black communities.

Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation as our guests shed light on the complexities of public question number one. Tune in to learn more about the potential consequences of this amendment and how it may affect our community. Listen to the full episode to hear the perspectives of Representative Pryor and Senator Taylor and join the conversation on the importance of informed voting.

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Speaker 1: And good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoon. Welcome to Community Connection.
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Speaker 2: I'm Tina Cosby.
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Speaker 1: Today is Thursday, October the 15th, 317-480-1310, 387-480-1310.
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Speaker 3: 1310 is the number to the show.
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Speaker 4: How are you doing, Eric?
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Speaker 5: Doing all right. I'm still kind of just to the fact that the month is half over.
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Speaker 4: Or we could just say it's only halfway begun.
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Speaker 5: OK, we can say, well, positive optimism.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got it. We got it.
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Speaker 5: I'll take that.
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Speaker 4: I'll take that. I think that's good. Busy show. Lots of lots, lots to get to.
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Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Today. And I'm really, really excited about everything we have have just ahead, including the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus. The IBLC has long been concerned. that Hoosiers may not know enough about questions one and two, public questions one and two on the Indiana State ballot for the upcoming election, especially public question number one concerning bail. Coming up in our second hour, Indiana State Representative Cherish Pryor and Indiana State Senator Greg Taylor join us in studio to explain and to answer your questions. about those public questions now on the ballot that Hoosier voters have either already voted on or about to vote on prior to the November 3rd election. So again, that's coming up in our second hour. At the bottom of this hour, a fall celebration marking the end of the season at Belmont Beach, but also a celebration marking the beginning of a special Indy Parks tribute to one of the city's most enduring community leaders, that being the Reverend Moselle Sanders.
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Speaker 5: Most definitely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that conversation is about 30 minutes away. We'll have some folks in studio to talk about that. But right now, let's do a little bit of weather. We might do some sports early, too.
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Speaker 6: Let's see.
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Speaker 5: Sounds good. You know, I don't know if you noticed or not, as soon as you opened the mic, you went on the air, the sun came out.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it did.
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Speaker 2: Down here.
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Speaker 5: So we got a little sun. Yeah, the sun is out now. So that's a good sign, I think.
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Speaker 7: Okay.
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Speaker 5: We do have mostly cloudy skies according to the National Weather Service, 68 degrees as we came on the air minutes ago. Going for 74 this afternoon, we could see some scattered thunderstorms in the mix. That's just to make it nice. That won't happen until after like 4 or 5 this afternoon, at least as of right now. Scattered showers and thunderstorms after 5, mostly cloudy. Yeah, high 74.
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Speaker 8: Okay.
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Speaker 4: After 5.
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Speaker 5: After 5 right now. Today.
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Speaker 9: Today.
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Speaker 5: Then tonight, 53, pretty good chance of showers in there, maybe some thunder. And for Friday, looks like 58, Tina, with temperatures falling, it says. From 58 for the high tomorrow. It's Indiana. It's got to happen.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: It has to, you know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we want to remind, we don't do it enough, and we need to do a little bit more, remind our listeners. that we are now on YouTube and Facebook.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are. You can see us this very moment.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here. And soon to be. I'm going to take a look right here real quick.
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Speaker 5: The chat. Is that up and running too?
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Speaker 4: No, it's not.
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Speaker 5: Not yet.
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Speaker 4: Not yet. It hasn't warmed up yet. Sometimes, you know, it's kind of like the old engine has to get warmed up and then before it comes on board.
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Speaker 10: We are going, you know, sometimes.
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Speaker 4: What's the old saying? Your dessert, don't eat your dessert.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
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Speaker 4: Eat your dessert last.
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Speaker 5: Last.
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Speaker 4: Well, usually on Thursdays, our dessert, I guess you could call it that, is Danny Bridges with the Indianapolis Recorder. He's usually the last thing we go to on Thursdays. We're going to reverse that if Danny's willing and ready to come in with us and start out with dessert.
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Speaker 5: Start out with, I've done that. I've done that a few times.
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Speaker 10: Have you started a meal?
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Speaker 5: I have started with dessert first, and then I'll have the meal after. It's not often, but every now and then I'll do that.
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Speaker 4: I've done that before, too.
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Speaker 5: Have you?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: It's just something about it. I don't know. Dessert first.
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Speaker 4: Especially at those, sometimes those gatherings and those dinners, you know, where the plate, the table is preset, and it's usually preset with your salad and your dessert.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 4: And if they're taking a little bit too long with everything else and, you know, it's delayed or what have you, why not just go ahead? If you like the dessert generally. I usually end up giving away my dessert.
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Speaker 5: Do you really?
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Speaker 4: I'm not much of a sweet.
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Speaker 5: Don't give mine away too.
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Speaker 4: You don't give yours.
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Speaker 5: No, I hang on to it to enjoy it myself. Generally.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Depends on what it is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed.
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Speaker 4: Indeed. So, yeah. So the the one we want to give everyone a reminder. We haven't. Well, a little bit of breaking news first. Greg Ballard. suing the Indiana election commission.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't, I missed that one. Really?
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That, uh, that came, uh, you know, in fact, our GM, Andrea care, uh, sent that to me, but I had already seen it and she sent it to me. So he's crying foul, uh, against, yeah, against two of the more formidable. I mean, there's like, I think six totaled in that race, but he's, uh, claiming improprieties, financial improprieties, uh, on the buy campaign and financial improprieties on the England maxing campaign as well. So, That, you know, we're going to look into that a little bit more. In fact, I've got invites out to both Ballard and Bayh, and we've already heard from Engling, so we've got to get Bayh and Ballard, and then a couple of the others as well. So we'll get to that. But a No Kings Rally, number four.
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Speaker 10: No Kings Rally, number four.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to be talking about a lot of election stuff, so I wanted to share this as well. Number four, that's coming up this Saturday. This Saturday. And guess where it's going to be?
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Speaker 5: Is it at the Madam Walker?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 5: No, not going to be there?
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Speaker 4: No, that's friendly territory.
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's going to be.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be at 4750 North Meridian Street.
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's somebody's mansion.
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Speaker 4: That's the governor's residence.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the governor's residence.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Braun.
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Speaker 5: So that's where it's going to be.
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Speaker 4: So they're going to take it right to him. Saturday from 1 to 4, 4750 North Meridian Street. The address, of course, the official governor's residence for the state of Indiana, where reportedly Governor Mike Braun lives. But I'm told he doesn't live there full time, that he splits his time between the official residence, which is there on Meridian, and his permanent residence in Jasper, Indiana. I think that that tradition started, if I'm not mistaken, with When Mitch Daniels became governor.
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Speaker 5: I think you're right. I think it did start at that time.
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Speaker 4: The others just lived there.
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Speaker 5: They lived there, but Mitch.
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Speaker 4: Mitch said no. I think it was more Mrs. Mitch that said no. We just built this nice house.
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Speaker 5: Why live there?
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Speaker 4: I got to leave it for four years. So he split his time. They did use it for official business, official. So it was used. And I think Braun, again, they say he splits his time between And no word on whether he's going to be there this Saturday or not. But the theme of No Kings Rally number four. Can you believe that there have been four No Kings Rallies here?
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Speaker 5: Four. That's amazing.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Wow. Four of them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, four. Well, the number four this Saturday from one to four at the Governor's Residence, 4750 North Meridian Street. The theme is no kings, colon, vote early. No kings, vote early. So how many times have we encouraged people to do that?
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Speaker 5: Oh, many. We can't count how many times.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't count.
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Speaker 5: And for that rally, weather looks good. It's going to be cool but sunny on Saturday at 55.
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Speaker 4: Oh, 55?
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Speaker 5: 55.
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Speaker 4: So, you know, nice fall weather.
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Speaker 6: It's fall.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fall.
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Speaker 5: Wear a sweater, something like that, maybe a jacket.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: But no rain as of right now for Saturday.
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Speaker 4: So all the rain is tonight.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, tonight and some tomorrow too. And maybe tomorrow evening early, according to the weather service. But sunny on Saturday, sunny on Sunday too. 63 on Sunday. Oh, frost early Sunday morning possible.
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Speaker 4: So after our first frost, then we have Indian summer.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Indian summer would come. Isn't it generally, doesn't it sometimes happen in November? Indian summer? It depends. It happens whenever. It does, it does.
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Speaker 4: October would seem pretty early.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like it's like November, maybe the first week or so in there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Indian summer, you get that.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, we're still waiting on Danny. And if he, you know, he probably got tied up or got something going on. There was some other breaking sports news. I'm not sure if Danny would have covered this one. But one of the stars of the fever, Aaliyah Boston, had surgery.
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Speaker 5: I saw that story.
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Speaker 4: Knee surgery. And fans and folks alike have been wondering throughout the season what was wrong with her because she would play every other game sometimes or, you know, or sometimes she might get two or three games in there. And then once, you know, once that started, she'd have to sit out.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And they said it was a lingering lower leg injury. They never said it was a knee. Let me see what I want to get it exactly right. Because lower right.
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Speaker 5: Lower leg issue?
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Speaker 4: Lower leg. Well, that's what they said it was.
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Speaker 14: That's what they said.
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Speaker 4: But it ended up being a meniscus tear. Yeah, in her knee.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 4: And they reported it. Okay. Lateral meniscus tear in her right knee.
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Speaker 15: Wow.
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Speaker 4: And they kept reporting it as lower leg. I guess to, you know, whatever.
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Speaker 5: I see from CBS News it was.
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Speaker 4: Oh, good.
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Speaker 5: That's good.
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Speaker 10: Are any of them ever unsuccessful?
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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think they are. And thankfully, they're not. I'm glad they are always successful.
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Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I just wonder, are any of them ever unsuccessful? But I think they are successful as well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Let's see. So, yeah. So I know Danny doesn't follow the fever too much. So I was going to share that.
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Speaker 5: But.
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Speaker 4: If he comes on, that's great. If he doesn't make it, you know, he keeps a lot of balls and, you know, juggles a lot of balls.
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Speaker 5: He does.
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Speaker 4: In the air, you know, juggling.
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Speaker 5: A lot's going on there with sports.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: And, of course, the Colts, you know, we know they didn't have a good Sunday this past Sunday.
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Speaker 4: No, and they are playing. Are they at home?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're home Sunday, 1 o'clock. They'll take on Tennessee.
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Speaker 4: What's that?
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Speaker 5: Tennessee is, well, they haven't won anything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what do they call those trap games?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I think that's it.
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Speaker 4: Because the teams that you're supposed to just beat, like, you know, they stole something, as the old folks used to say, like they stole something from you. Those are the games that sometimes the Colts fall into as well and don't necessarily. I don't know if Danny's liking this sports thing that we're doing, but we're doing it as best we can, Danny, for you.
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Speaker 5: Well, he is right here and right now.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he is. Okay.
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Speaker 5: Danny is here. So let me.
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Speaker 16: Hey, Danny.
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Speaker 7: Hey, I wish I had a good excuse for calling late. I really do.
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Speaker 14: That's okay.
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Speaker 7: I thought of what I was going to say when the phone was ringing, but I'm just old and I forgot for a few minutes.
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Speaker 4: That's okay. We were holding down the fort for you. How about that?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's that, right?
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Speaker 5: I was going to say, maybe we were talking about the fever, and Danny's like, nah, I don't want to hear about that.
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Speaker 4: They need to learn to rebound and guard without fouling.
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Speaker 5: Right. Then he'd call us. Then he'll tell us.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's that.
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Speaker 7: There's that.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's that.
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Speaker 4: We were just talking about the Colts-Tennessee trap game. These are the games that are really tricky for the Colts, the ones that they're supposed to win hands down, and yet sometimes they fall prey and just don't get it done. So what say you about this Sunday?
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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I neglected to send my column to you.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Well— If you want to access it online, you can. But I basically wrote that it's time to blow up the team. I've seen enough. No, I mean, it's okay. Look, there's some really good people involved in this process. And I feel badly for those good people. But it's just time. And I'm calling for it to happen right away or fairly soon. using the balance of the season to evaluate maybe some guys you haven't played and see if you've got anything for next year with them. And, but just bite the bullet and start the rebuild process.
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Speaker 2: It's time.
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Speaker 7: It's, you know, it's just, it's frustrating. I would have to think for fans, there's just nothing happening. You know, Hey, We're going to make a run for a wild card. No, it's not going to happen. Colts are going to make playoffs, and that's all there is to it. But that doesn't mean they can't be better. And to be better, you have to start somewhere, this case at the bottom, and work your way up. It's time to blow this team up and start the rebuild process right away.
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Speaker 4: Do you think the owner is ready to light the stick of dynamite to do so, or do you think she's going to be conservative and just say, well?
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Speaker 7: Well, that's a good question. You know, I think the wheels have to fall off more than they have this year. In other words, if I get beat Sunday and maybe lose two out of their next three after that, that could prompt some action. You know, a lot of teams will fire a coordinator before they fire a coach. I don't know. I mean, Shane Syken's calling the plays. It just hasn't worked. I really do, as a person, really have a lot of regard for.
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Speaker 18: Ballard.
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Speaker 7: I really do. He's a good man. He's active with foster children. He has adopted children. He is a superbly good human being, and I want to make that perfectly clear. It just hasn't worked, and it's long overdue. And if I sound fired up about it, I guess it's because I can't figure out what's taking so long. Now, someone asked me yesterday, hey, if you think Jim Irsay was around, would he have done something by now? It's a good question. I don't want to in any way, shape, or form marginalize his daughter and her sisters, but... You know, it's time to make a big splash, a big decision. And bringing it all back again this year wasn't that. I understand she has said, hey, we're not happy. We have higher expectations, blah, blah, blah. It's just time. You know, I'm going to get off the soapbox now. But it's time for that to happen.
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Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know, and based on your experience when things like this, because you're certainly part of a large and growing chorus saying the same thing. Based on your experience, does this typically happen mid-season, end of the season? I mean, when do you think the ax usually falls if it's going to?
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Speaker 7: As I said earlier, I think it will have to get a little worse this season. She could wait it out. I guess some would say, hey, if you're not going to make the playoffs, what does it matter? I think it does. It gives you more time. I've got a thought in mind what I would do. Nobody really cares about that, but I'll share it with you anyway. Let's call Mike Tomlin up and I'd talk to him and see if he's ready to coach again. It's going to take a lot of money because you're asking an established guy to come in and rebuild something. He's going to have to buy into the fact that it's a rebuild situation. not a reboot. And that's what I talked about in my column today. It's a rebuild, not a reboot.
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Speaker 4: Tomlin, the retired coach and former coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who famously ended his career with the Steelers without ever posting a losing season.
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Speaker 7: You can't expect him to be a miracle worker either. I just think... you're going to change the guard. That'd be a great way to look at it. I think it's going to be expensive, but the money's there. And the quarterback issue is in flux. Uh, Daniel Jones is earning roughly 43 plus million dollars this year. And if they're going to bring that guy back next year, he's going to have to take a huge pay cut. He'll be a free agent. And, uh, They're not– I just don't think they're going to bring that guy back. I really– I think he signed a two-year deal, but I can't see them doing anything but cutting that guy after this season as part of a rebuilding process. So, you know, who do you– it's easy to say, hey.
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Speaker 4: Rebuild it.
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Speaker 9: Well, yeah.
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Speaker 4: And, yeah, according to your own observations all the time, you say it all the time. Okay, you cut him, but then who?
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Speaker 7: Right. I– I think what you would have to do, a quarterback, is, you know, can you make a trade for a stopgap guy better than Jones? Can you draft somebody and throw them in the fire? The free agent market is, quarterback-wise, is not really rich for next season. So, look, it's easy for me to.
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Speaker 6: Say, fire this guy, fire this guy, hire this guy, or hire this next guy. but start the process is what I'm saying. Bite the bullet, clean the house, and let the chips fall where they may. I think things will go upwardly, but I think it's a slow and painful process, and the season ticket holders aren't going to be happy, but how could they be happy now?
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Speaker 4: I can't imagine unless they just like to watch football. They don't care about winning, so if they just like to watch football.
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Speaker 7: It's a loyal fan base. It's I would put the Colts fan base in terms of loyalty up against anybody in the league. I'm just... I mean, I've seen it and they're amazing. But, you know, I think enough of them would agree that it's time and another season of this is not the way to go. I'd be shocked if the coach and the general manager aren't removed. I'm just saying just go ahead and do it now.
00:20:13
Speaker 4: Oh, you're saying do it now, today.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would do it now. I would let those guys coach Sunday, and then I'd call them in. That's not very nice, you know, but, I mean, do it now.
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Speaker 4: I heard Tomlin wouldn't be available until after the season based on his contract. So they would have to just use an interim, somebody in the interim.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: It's not really going to matter who that is because, A, you're not going to give the full-time job to them, and, B, you know, they're not going anywhere as is. So, you know, I don't expect Mike Tomlin to walk away from television and come back to this mess, but he's a guy that I would certainly want to talk to as far as next season is concerned. I really, really would. And get that extra time to start the process, to look for a new general manager.
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Speaker 17: Tomlin, GM and coach?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you're talking about a general manager, there's one of two ways. You're either going to have to hire a highly respected assistant general manager, another team may give him his first shot, a younger guy perhaps, or you're going to try to lure someone who's very established and has a great resume financially. Like, hey, we know this is a mess. We know you've got a great resume. We're going to pay you. These are all hypothetical numbers. We're going to pay you $ 10 million a year. to take the ship and let that happen. But, look, it's a process, and that's why I say start it now. Don't try to cram it into the offseason. You know, you've got the draft. You've got the combine. You need people in place to make those decisions, to make those evaluations. That's why I say there's no better time than now, my humble opinion. Yep.
00:21:59
Speaker 4: Well, and such as it is. You know, we all have them. So what else you got, Danny? It sounds like a good column. You really went in, it sounds like.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think I did. But anyway, as far as what else is concerned, the World Series is upon us here shortly. It looks like the Brewers are going to beat the Dodgers in advance. I still think Tampa Bay will get by Cleveland. If that's the matchup, that'll be some great baseball to watch on television. But I caution baseball as a sport to try to learn from previous mistakes and One thing that happened last year, which was a good thing, was a phenomenal World Series, a Game 7, that was so dramatic and so entertaining. The collective bargaining agreement expires November 1st, so it doesn't mean automatically it's a lockout, but that's where it's heading. I'd be really surprised if there's not a lockout due to a labor disagreement or the inability to foster a new labor agreement, and that puts baseball... in a really dark spot. I hope that doesn't happen, but time will tell. Obviously, big football game in Bloomington this weekend.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
00:23:12
Speaker 7: I think that one is not only one that everybody wants to watch, but everybody's got an opinion about. I would simply say this. Indiana will have to play better than they did against Nebraska. Too many missed tackles, especially in the first half of that ballgame. And number two... Ohio State's going to have to rise up as well. They've got a couple people injured. They're normally starters. Not really sure if they're going to play or not. They've got a fairly deep roster, but I think it's going to be a good battle game. Some people think Ohio State will come down there and raise Kane, no pun intended. I think they're capable of winning a close ball game. I'm going to go with Ohio State to win a close ball game by close meaning less than a touchdown. so that's my prediction on that but that'll be a great game starts at noon on fox the national telecast and uh i think uh nobody wants to talk about colts in bloomington they want to talk about indiana.
00:24:11
Speaker 4: Yeah they do uh based on i mean i hate to say it but i agree with you just based on you.
00:24:18
Speaker 7: Don't ever have to you never have to hesitate to agree with me tina just It just shows that you're just an extremely intelligent lady.
00:24:25
Speaker 4: Well, okay, thank you. Thank you so much for that. But, no, typically I tend to go, you know, more with my heart than the head. But I'm going to go with my head this time. I would like to see Indiana, but I just, unless something, yeah. I think they would have to make a huge step forward to take this one based on the way they've been playing. Now, they could win it.
00:24:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they can. They're going to have to do some things differently, do some things better than they have, say, the past two to three weeks. But I like the fact that Marsh has shown what anybody who follows college football should know from last year at Michigan State. He's an extremely talented receiver.
00:25:14
Speaker 2: He's very gifted.
00:25:15
Speaker 7: But you get the ball in his hands, and not just the long, you know, explosive play certainly those but get that ball to him and see what he can do after he catches as far as yardage that he can amass so i think he's a big key for them now people will also talk about hey the quarterback the defense i mean there's so many different variables but something tells me that if indiana's going to win that football game that marsh is going to have to have a banner day for that to happen i don't think that's impossible.
00:25:45
Speaker 4: At all yeah Your buddy Jeff has a question for you, Danny. Jeff, go ahead. How are you?
00:25:52
Speaker 17: Hey, Tina.
00:25:52
Speaker 2: Hey, Dan.
00:25:53
Speaker 17: How are you guys? Hey, Jeff.
00:25:55
Speaker 4: How are you?
00:25:56
Speaker 9: Good.
00:25:56
Speaker 7: All right.
00:25:58
Speaker 17: Dan, two scenarios. Going back with the Colts.
00:26:03
Speaker 7: All right.
00:26:04
Speaker 17: I totally agree with you. It's time to clean house. You know, it's time to make the great purge.
00:26:08
Speaker 9: It has to happen.
00:26:10
Speaker 17: You know, I think Shane Steiner has a lot of potential. Ballard, well, anyway. Okay, the quarterback situation. I totally agree with you about Daniel Jones. He'll probably move on. So, do they get a trade, get a veteran quarterback, or just start from ground zero and draft one? And my second one is, yes, I think Tomlin, he's definitely on the radar. But I also heard that bring Peyton Manning in as sort of a GM, I guess, advisor. The way they're doing with Tom Brady in Las Vegas. And what's your take? I'll hang up and listen.
00:26:50
Speaker 7: Well, as far as the quarterbacks go, I don't think there will be anything harmful in doing both of those things you proposed. Signing somebody who is a veteran, short-term, stopgap, however you want to term it, they've been pretty good at that historically. Look at their history. And number two, make a draft pick. Being realistic about draft selections, they've traded a lot of their future away to get Sauce Gardner, and I'm still scratching my head on that one. I'm not going to blame everything on that young man, but I thought at the time that was a pretty hefty tag to get him with two number ones. However, to your point, I don't like the Peyton Manning thing. I have saw where some people talk about it simply because you want an experienced general manager, and he's not that. I'm not saying he couldn't evaluate talent somewhat and couldn't be an asset to an NFL franchise in some capacity, but please hire an experienced general manager, and that's not Peyton Manning.
00:27:53
Speaker 4: Yeah. Joe, you have a quick question for Danny?
00:27:56
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
00:27:57
Speaker 4: How are you?
00:27:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. How are you guys doing today?
00:28:00
Speaker 3: Doing good.
00:28:00
Speaker 4: Thank you.
00:28:01
Speaker 2: Hey, I got a quick one for you and Danny. Okay.
00:28:03
Speaker 4: 33-17 Indiana University.
00:28:10
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:28:10
Speaker 9: There you go.
00:28:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. 33-17, and I'll talk to you next Thursday, Danny. Okay?
00:28:18
Speaker 7: Well, it's a distinct possibility they can win the football game at home. I'm not saying they can't.
00:28:23
Speaker 4: Anything can happen.
00:28:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:28:25
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:28:27
Speaker 2: And really, if they win that game, by that score, I deserve a steak dinner.
00:28:33
Speaker 4: Not a tenderloin sandwich?
00:28:34
Speaker 7: I'm just– I'm sure somebody out there with a steakhouse will accommodate you.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Danny accommodating me.
00:28:45
Speaker 7: I see no reason to jump to that conclusion. But my point is this in closing on that is that Indiana certainly would not be a surprise if they won a home football game. I'd be surprised if that margin prevails as you've predicted. That's two touchdowns. I'd be surprised about that. I think it's a close football game. I'm going with Ohio State in a close one, but it could very well be just the opposite. But it should be fun to watch. I hope the weather cooperates as far as rain is concerned, but the bottom line is two really good football teams on a collision course. Hopefully no injuries, hopefully not a bunch of turnovers and what have you, but looking forward to it.
00:29:32
Speaker 2: Peace. I'll talk to you next Thursday.
00:29:35
Speaker 7: Thanks, Tina.
00:29:36
Speaker 4: All righty. Thank you, Joe. Yeah, Joe, Danny, Joe's... he could be right. Anybody could be right. Anybody could be right.
00:29:44
Speaker 17: Thank you, Danny.
00:29:45
Speaker 7: I'd be surprised if that margin is such. I hear the music. That means get out of here. But I'm glad you're having some political flavor to the show today. Yeah, yeah.
00:29:55
Speaker 4: Got a lot coming up.
00:29:56
Speaker 13: Yeah.
00:29:56
Speaker 7: And I hope the candidates will be, transparent and forthright about their positions.
00:30:03
Speaker 4: Yep. These are lawmakers about the ballot, but we will have candidates soon, probably before we get to you again. So thank you for that. We'll talk to you soon, Danny. All righty. Everybody vote.
00:30:14
Speaker 7: Everybody's got to vote. Indeed. Thank you.
00:30:16
Speaker 4: Thank you, Danny. And we'll be right back with more Community Connection. Going to be talking about Belmont Beach and the Hawville Riverfront Fall Festival right after this.
00:30:45
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation it's community connection with tina cosby from the praise indie indigo studios on praise am 13 10 95.1 fm.
00:30:57
Speaker 19: And we are back with community connection um still having fun you know we're going to get into some serious stuff at the top of the hour but we're this is all good all good news uh I guess what Danny said was interesting.
00:31:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was too.
00:31:11
Speaker 8: That was a.
00:31:12
Speaker 4: Little mini sports rant.
00:31:14
Speaker 5: I think it is time to do what he said. Season ticket holders, I would be pretty disappointed. It's like, let's make some changes.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. We've got a lot coming up this weekend out on the west side, and I'm going to let, we got a whole lot of folks in studio, and I love that because I love having company.
00:31:33
Speaker 7: Don't you?
00:31:33
Speaker 4: Don't you?
00:31:34
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
00:31:35
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:31:36
Speaker 5: Love having company.
00:31:38
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:31:38
Speaker 4: So it has to do with how many, we've talked about Friends of Belmont Beach so many times. And, you know, from the very beginning when they were trying to get it redone, Hawville, Reverend Moselle Sand. It all connects. It all connects. So I'm going to let the connectors get started telling us who they are and what we have here and what we're going to be talking about. So let's start here. With you, Jenny. Yeah, good to be with you.
00:32:05
Speaker 13: My name is Jenny Boyts. I'm the executive director of the Parks Alliance. So excited to share not only what's happening on Saturday in Hawville, but over the next few years, the ways we're, as an organization, continuing to raise funds, make sure the community has what it's need to bring the Hawville Riverfront Vision Plan to life with a real re-improvement of the Reverend Mosel Sanders Park.
00:32:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. The importance of Hawville and the West Side and getting life and getting things going again. Can you speak to that just a bit? How important it really is to the city? I certainly can.
00:32:37
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think this story starts, you know, obviously years and even generations ago about the ways in which this is such a culturally rich kind of community on the West Side. And what we are doing with the Parks Alliance is making sure that the really long and deep vision plan that was included a lot of community input and feedback along the river really is activated and comes to life. And so excited for kind of real community leaders from Havel to be with us and would love for them to kind of share that journey. I do think that we're celebrating the launch on Saturday of a project that's really important that will provide such good, high-quality access to nature and play and sports and recreation for Hawville. But so much of this work really is years before now. And how do we kind of continue to honor that and the community voice throughout this project is our goal. So excited to kind of hear how the leaders have experienced it and the importance and value of a project like this. But certainly the culture and community of Hawville is worth celebrating.
00:33:31
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:32
Speaker 4: What's the population now?
00:33:34
Speaker 1: You know?
00:33:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:36
Speaker 1: What do you guys think?
00:33:37
Speaker 4: We got Ted and Coach.
00:33:38
Speaker 5: True Havel.
00:33:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker 4: Introduce yourselves. Go ahead.
00:33:40
Speaker 2: Grew up.
00:33:41
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:33:41
Speaker 4: Yeah. Go ahead.
00:33:44
Speaker 20: I have been, well, near West, Stringtown and Havel Connection, working along the river with Urban Wilderness Trail and connected to White River State Park, et cetera, and I'm involved with Rowe, which is sunsetted now, but that's where I really started to meet a lot of people like Ted and others from the neighborhoods. I've I grew up in the wilderness in northern Michigan, so I was in the city and I went for the, find the bushes and disappear with nature.
00:34:12
Speaker 14: Okay.
00:34:14
Speaker 20: It's been awesome then to find, oh, people are interested in what's down here, to be able to share from a hunting and tracking culture that people, I'm like, no, the animals are already there, be able to just kind of open the gateway for people to, you know, there's three nesting pair of bald eagles that fish regularly downtown in White River.
00:34:29
Speaker 7: Really?
00:34:30
Speaker 8: Yes.
00:34:30
Speaker 14: These you would never imagine.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: No.
00:34:32
Speaker 8: Right.
00:34:33
Speaker 2: Wow.
00:34:34
Speaker 20: So just, That one example, then it's eyes open up.
00:34:38
Speaker 4: Eric, did you know that?
00:34:39
Speaker 5: I had no idea. I'm standing, I'm totally amazed. Right here in Indianapolis?
00:34:43
Speaker 4: Right here. White River?
00:34:45
Speaker 14: Right down the block, actually.
00:34:46
Speaker 3: Really?
00:34:48
Speaker 14: We still keep it as a little.
00:34:50
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. That does make sense.
00:34:52
Speaker 4: You don't want to let, yeah, I get it.
00:34:54
Speaker 8: Don't want to let that out too much.
00:34:56
Speaker 20: Off the record, we can take you out and show you the nest and.
00:34:58
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, that's great.
00:35:00
Speaker 21: So as far as population, I don't want to sit here and lie on air, but the community is steadily growing now. We're seeing a lot of the older faces coming back and being involved. So that means probably grandkids are in the community or different spouses and things. So it's definitely growing and a lot more smiles are happening, especially with these projects being activated.
00:35:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
00:35:22
Speaker 4: So what can we expect on Saturday?
00:35:24
Speaker 14: What can we expect? We can expect us.
00:35:27
Speaker 21: A lot of smiles, a lot of joy. Sad, but still happy with the... We was going to do trailer tours, tractor trailers, but a lot was happening. So we're going to do nature tours hosted by Coach and friends, but we're going to use golf carts. So it's going to be a good experience to see the whole space. The space of? The space of Reverend Mosel Sanders Park and Belmont Beach because... the dam is getting removed. So that's one, that's another reason why we are doing the full event at Moselle Sanders.
00:35:56
Speaker 8: Um, yeah.
00:35:56
Speaker 21: And I know a lot of people have been confused about Belmont beach closing of season six and what's going on in Moselle Sanders park. But in the process, the dam is getting removed and that's going to make it a safer community.
00:36:07
Speaker 4: Right.
00:36:07
Speaker 21: So when all these kids and families are going to Moselle Sanders park and they want to see the water, have water activities, the water would be a lot more safer to, um, to access. And I know if you heard stories about the Emory's dam or, Belmont Beach or anything, Wright River has probably been, we've lost people on that river due to the dam and the water access.
00:36:25
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So Belmont Beach and Reverend Moselle Sanders Park are kind of sort of one of the same in a way?
00:36:34
Speaker 14: I mean, we can not say kind of now.
00:36:36
Speaker 8: They are.
00:36:36
Speaker 9: They are.
00:36:37
Speaker 12: Okay.
00:36:37
Speaker 14: Since we've been building the plants since I've been a part, it's one big park district.
00:36:41
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:36:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:36:42
Speaker 14: Yeah, so come in here.
00:36:44
Speaker 4: Help me with my geography. I'm going to help you explain.
00:36:48
Speaker 21: So let's say we're leaving Speedway and you're passing Long's Bakery.
00:36:51
Speaker 14: Everybody knows that. So we're coming back towards downtown.
00:36:53
Speaker 4: Long's Bakery.
00:36:54
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we know Long.
00:36:55
Speaker 14: You see Long's Bakery?
00:36:56
Speaker 1: That's the icon.
00:36:57
Speaker 14: That's right. So we're going to hit it. We're going to hit it past Long's Bakery. We're coming around White River.
00:37:01
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:37:02
Speaker 14: And there's now a light right there.
00:37:04
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:37:04
Speaker 14: And so from there all the.
00:37:06
Speaker 21: Way around White River Drive, All the way to the apartments going to 10th Street is not a park district.
00:37:14
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:37:14
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:37:15
Speaker 14: Okay.
00:37:16
Speaker 21: So when you think about Riverside, how big that is, you think about those just different bigger parks with a lot of different activities, not just water and basketball.
00:37:24
Speaker 13: So right behind School 63, if folks are familiar with that on Belmont Avenue there, Belmont and White River Parkway, is 25 acres of what has been and what was called, you know, 20 plus years ago, Reverend Moselle Sanders Park. So an indie park within kind of the neighborhood and along the riverside. So Belmont Beach crosses the street, but I think to Ted's point and so much of the important work that Friends of Belmont Beach are doing are how do we connect this together? And the Riverfront Vision Plan does that. So the Riverfront Vision Plan is actually 53 acres. And so really how are they taking this bigger footprint along the river, making sure that Havel and the neighbors can have access to the river, more kind of turning ourselves to the river as opposed to turning our backs to it. And so how does the park really do that? And how does that, you know, obviously open up lots of opportunities for the kids in the school, but also the neighbors and the neighborhood, I think is really an exciting.
00:38:15
Speaker 4: Kind of exciting thing. And I think what's true, and I think this.
00:38:17
Speaker 13: Is exactly kind of what we're saying, and then Ted was starting to hint to, is this vision plan, which was so deeply created with kind of community voice, said we want to be more connected to the river. We would love to be able to see bald eagles' nests. We would love to be able to have access to recreate.
00:38:32
Speaker 22: On the water.
00:38:33
Speaker 13: And the vision plan does that. And this specific kind of project that we'll start here in the fall, we'll start on that 25 acres of the Reverend Mosel Sanders Park. So Saturday we'll be celebrating not only the fall festival, the season ending for Belmont Beach, but also the launch officially of that first phase of the project.
00:38:51
Speaker 8: Super exciting.
00:38:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be. And just the growth and the energy and the love that has been poured into Belmont Beach, the restoration, because the history there, We've heard it so many times. We've heard it on the show a number of times, Eric.
00:39:06
Speaker 21: I think y'all spoke to the Belmont Beach Project when it was just in project form.
00:39:13
Speaker 4: Ebony Chappelle. She's been here several times. We have a couple of other folks here.
00:39:21
Speaker 13: We'll share the mic. I'm really excited about the partnerships that this project really sparks and brings together. So the Parks Alliance is kind of the nonprofit partner for the Indy Parks.
00:39:31
Speaker 4: Team.
00:39:32
Speaker 13: So the city of Minnesota.
00:39:33
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead and explain. The Parks Alliance of Indianapolis and Indy Parks. Yeah, very, very important distinction.
00:39:39
Speaker 13: So we are a separate 501c3 that is a fundraising arm. We exist to bridge the gap in finance or fundraising or even kind of partnerships and people capacity. So we could bring corporate partners to the table. And how do we support parks? All 219 of them. And sometimes we raise funds for capital projects like what we're talking about today. And so we do that day in and day out for all 219 parks across the parks portfolio, the Indy Parks portfolio.
00:40:06
Speaker 4: That's a lot of parks.
00:40:09
Speaker 13: And just to put this into perspective, you know, the 2027 capital budget for the Indy Parks, kind of the city's park system is around $ 6 million they've allocated Across 219 parks, you kind of divide that, the quick math is $ 25, 000 a park. I was going to say, not a whole lot. You could get a slide, a nice slide for that, right? And so where we come in is to kind of say, how do we fill the gap until there's a more permanent kind of public financing resource and tool? And so this is a perfect example of, you know, we've been really excited to kind of bring a partner along with the Bezos Earth Fund for $ 10 million to start and launch this project.
00:40:46
Speaker 3: And that is.
00:40:48
Speaker 13: a private philanthropy that the Parks Alliance is able to kind of receive those funds, manage those funds, and ultimately work alongside Indy Parks team and the Friends of Belmont Beach to make sure that that $ 10 million is spent exactly the way the community would like for it to be spent.
00:41:01
Speaker 4: What a facilitator, millions of dollars.
00:41:03
Speaker 13: It's a lot of millions, yeah. Yeah, so we're excited to be the connector, and I will actually truly turn the mic over, but excited to be the connector, and ultimately I think my I've been in this job for less than a year now. And so how do we, you know, trying to turn the corner and to really say like we can be, I think you had mentioned and certainly the spirit of this conversation is be the connector for community groups, for corporate partners or funders that want to fund our park systems. And how do we make sure we do that both efficiently and also kind of authentically as well?
00:41:36
Speaker 15: So excited to be here.
00:41:37
Speaker 13: But certainly the Friends of Belmont Beach crew has been here a long time.
00:41:40
Speaker 5: Excited for you to hear from them as well.
00:41:42
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed. And we'll find, it's just the event this weekend is free, right?
00:41:46
Speaker 5: It's free.
00:41:47
Speaker 2: Eric.
00:41:47
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey.
00:41:48
Speaker 17: You know what?
00:41:49
Speaker 4: We need a free sound.
00:41:50
Speaker 15: We didn't even say free food, music.
00:41:52
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ted will tell you.
00:41:53
Speaker 1: All about it.
00:41:54
Speaker 14: We got Jeffrey Thomas and friends, Brian Kelly.
00:41:57
Speaker 4: Who?
00:41:58
Speaker 8: Brian Kelly.
00:41:59
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:42:00
Speaker 14: Jeffrey Thomas.
00:42:01
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
00:42:02
Speaker 8: DJ-ism.
00:42:03
Speaker 14: Ted Hardy.
00:42:04
Speaker 4: What's the time frame?
00:42:05
Speaker 14: The time frame is from 4 p.m.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: To 7 p.m.
00:42:08
Speaker 14: Everything is free. All the food, all the vending things, the tours, everything.
00:42:13
Speaker 5: Free. Free. One more time. There we go. There we go.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: You know what?
00:42:17
Speaker 4: That's what we're going to find next. We found the music for the show. We've got to find a free sounder. I can see somebody. I'm envisioning somebody in their background saying, yes!
00:42:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see that, too. We'll look for that. We'll look for that. Edmo and I will get together.
00:42:30
Speaker 4: Yes, please. Free.
00:42:31
Speaker 10: So, Tiffany, are you going to join us?
00:42:34
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
00:42:34
Speaker 2: Come on.
00:42:35
Speaker 4: Come on in. Tiffany's got a little history with us. She knows that, right?
00:42:40
Speaker 5: Yes, she does. I know. I know she does.
00:42:41
Speaker 4: Just a little bit.
00:42:42
Speaker 5: A little bit of history.
00:42:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. She's putting on the headphones and looking just like somebody.
00:42:47
Speaker 5: Isn't there some Hall of Fame history there?
00:42:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hall of Famer.
00:42:50
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame history. Super.
00:42:52
Speaker 4: Jay Johnson.
00:42:53
Speaker 5: Iconic.
00:42:54
Speaker 4: Super Jay's daughter. Yeah, and congratulations. You were there a couple of weeks ago accepting on behalf of your dad. And, you know, it's so funny. I met him... In television before I knew he did radio. It was so funny because I was like, oh, because he was doing a television segment and I had just started in TV here. And I was like, well, who's that guy? Because he was coming out, you know, doing, oh, they said, oh, that's Super J. And I'm like, oh, okay. So I thought Super J was somebody at the TV station. And they're like, no, Tina, Super Jack. And so I said, okay, okay, got it. But congratulations again for your dad.
00:43:32
Speaker 7: Congratulations to you.
00:43:33
Speaker 4: It was wonderful to celebrate you that day. So you're the project manager?
00:43:37
Speaker 22: Yes, I am fortunate to be in this cross-section of being the project.
00:43:42
Speaker 15: Manager for the Parks Department and working on this project.
00:43:46
Speaker 22: And when I tell you, I am so excited, in part because of understanding the history of Fallville And I remember all of the live remotes that were done in the community and just the connectivity for the community and how we were represented that way. And so to be here with the new generation of Hallvillers and seeing this come to pass for the neighborhood is just incredibly exciting.
00:44:10
Speaker 4: And you guys know, there's Moselle Sanders, another, just, The enduring community legacy of his. I mean, the Moselle Sanders dinner, but there's so much more. The enduring legacy of him and the fact that he, you know, that's where he ministered, that's where he was based in that Hallville area. It couldn't be better.
00:44:29
Speaker 8: It couldn't be better.
00:44:29
Speaker 4: You couldn't be associated with a better project.
00:44:32
Speaker 22: And this project will also include a farm on the property.
00:44:36
Speaker 4: A farm?
00:44:37
Speaker 14: Yes, a farm.
00:44:37
Speaker 4: Like a community?
00:44:38
Speaker 8: There will be an orchard.
00:44:39
Speaker 15: There will be plants growing.
00:44:40
Speaker 22: There will be opportunities for that fresh food to make its way to the Reverend Moes Alcindor's dinner.
00:44:49
Speaker 14: So we're looking forward to those.
00:44:50
Speaker 4: It's just a beautiful connection. So all y'all are farmers.
00:44:53
Speaker 15: We're all going to farm.
00:44:54
Speaker 4: Jenny, you don't farm, right?
00:44:56
Speaker 10: She got the boots on.
00:44:58
Speaker 8: She's ready.
00:44:59
Speaker 4: Coach definitely clears the land. Oh, I know Coach could farm. I can see Coach farming.
00:45:06
Speaker 14: He's got it.
00:45:07
Speaker 4: So Martina, tell us about your connection to Friends of Belmont Park.
00:45:11
Speaker 12: So I've been working with the team for about two years as the marketing chair. Um, I love the area. My father grew up on the West side. I love nature, all of the things that I've seen this team do. And I said, Hey, I gotta find a way to be involved. So I started as a volunteer, started learning more about the programming. And, um, I love to tell the story of what we do. Um, it's, it's just so important. The type of programming that we have speaking to, uh, food, um, We have, you know, workshops to learn how to grow your own food.
00:45:44
Speaker 4: Wow.
00:45:45
Speaker 12: So to have that kind of come full circle and just to be able to share so much with our community, to see folks come out. to events like the one we're having this Saturday. It is just, it's so joyful. And I love being a part of it.
00:45:58
Speaker 4: So I'm curious about the farm. How many acres are you going to actually be farming, literally?
00:46:03
Speaker 3: Two acres?
00:46:03
Speaker 4: I'm seeing two from the back of the room.
00:46:05
Speaker 2: Two.
00:46:06
Speaker 4: Anybody say three? Anybody got three?
00:46:07
Speaker 8: Maybe four.
00:46:09
Speaker 7: Maybe four.
00:46:09
Speaker 4: You said you're bidding off right now.
00:46:12
Speaker 8: Let's go.
00:46:12
Speaker 4: Two acres is huge. It is huge.
00:46:16
Speaker 21: And a good thing I do want to mention about that is the space that is going, like, there's no homes and stuff that have to be removed.
00:46:22
Speaker 10: Oh, that's fantastic.
00:46:23
Speaker 14: No placement movement or anything. We're just really.
00:46:26
Speaker 21: building on the spaces there, and it was already laid out with the Moselle Sanders plan before we got here.
00:46:31
Speaker 4: So the folks that are already there, what kind of feedback, reaction, or interest are you getting from the current residents that are there as they see more and more things coming to life?
00:46:42
Speaker 21: I think the one who's going to be affected the most usually is because the people that are doing programming or are part of programming always want to see more after they feel it, right?
00:46:51
Speaker 14: When is the stage going to get bigger?
00:46:52
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:46:54
Speaker 14: It's the guys across the street that also does fishing, right?
00:46:57
Speaker 21: So, oh, man, more people are going to be at the park. So, where are we going to park at? But what they're not realizing is a lot of work is being done. It's for all of us, right? A safer access to the water. The families that don't usually engage with water can start asking people questions. And a good space that, not just Hollywood, but the Near West End, is more people are starting to communicate.
00:47:14
Speaker 14: So, I can see that being a... What's the best word?
00:47:19
Speaker 5: We're building a bridge.
00:47:20
Speaker 8: We're filling that gap.
00:47:22
Speaker 21: Obviously, we're around a lot of bridges, but it's an exciting thing with the 16th Street Bridge being developed or remodeled and connecting Riverside.
00:47:33
Speaker 4: Right now, how are things going with that? I mean, is it as, I don't know... disruptive as people thought it was going to be?
00:47:42
Speaker 21: I'm going to say perfect timing because not only that there's the parking lots in the room, but I like taking 30th Street. I like using Riverside Adventure Park.
00:47:51
Speaker 5: I like exploring.
00:47:52
Speaker 14: So that takes a lot of us off our regular, oh, I got to take 16th.
00:47:55
Speaker 21: Street all the time. But what about the golf course now? What about the different gas station? What about Ryan Pass Municipal Gardens? What about, you know, it's a lot of different things that's happening on that side of town. And now we get to explore because we're not taking the same route. So that's just an opinion that I've seen in a couple different conversations.
00:48:13
Speaker 15: That is exciting.
00:48:14
Speaker 22: And the amazing thing is that the interview, actually this weekend at the event, there will be opportunity for so much community engagement in terms of that bridging. And so there is so much to speak to about what's going on in the community and the different ways to go about travel, see what's happening in the community, and see the growth, revisit how.
00:48:35
Speaker 15: We've looked at the Hawville Riverfront plan.
00:48:38
Speaker 22: Waterways like there's so much going on that it would be worth everyone's time and to come to this event and enjoy yes it's free and there's going to be lots of deliciousness and lots of fun to be had yeah but also to to be a part of that uh community engagement to talk more about what's going on in the community and and just develop this and and celebrate it all together course Belmont Beach closing their season out but it's not like it's it's a closing but it's a kickoff.
00:49:09
Speaker 4: And yeah yeah it's continuing.
00:49:10
Speaker 15: The conversation of how all this what we're going to be doing next year.
00:49:14
Speaker 4: What a beautiful transition you know 100 closing and then so uh before we have to time goes so quickly before we have to let you go uh final you know like if people want it so it's free so you don't have to do anything to come you just show up no pre-registration no anything just.
00:49:30
Speaker 21: Well when you get there we will like you to scan the qr code But that's going to be your access to free food and all those other things. You know, we want to see who's there with us and we want to make sure that we are continuing to reach out to these people that's participating and letting their voices be heard. So not only will we, you know, want their information, we want your email, we want your social security.
00:49:50
Speaker 14: No, I'm just kidding.
00:49:53
Speaker 21: We want a way to connect with everybody that's coming so we can continue this conversation and make sure people are involved because I think over the last, well, I guess five years, we kind of took a break in the wintertime. I'm not going to say we're going to take much of a break. We're going to continue to build through the winter. We're going to continue to answer conversations. We're going to have a little community.
00:50:12
Speaker 14: Not little.
00:50:13
Speaker 5: We're going to have big community meetings.
00:50:15
Speaker 21: We're going to explore what does this community really want to see in this community. Obviously, some things is already set in stone, but the future is very bright.
00:50:23
Speaker 14: Indeed.
00:50:24
Speaker 4: Looks like you're going to have great weather, too. Nice brisk fall day.
00:50:27
Speaker 14: Perfect fall weather.
00:50:29
Speaker 3: Pumpkin patches.
00:50:31
Speaker 22: Bounce houses, all the things.
00:50:34
Speaker 14: How do we forget about all the kid games going on?
00:50:36
Speaker 22: All of the children are going to have a blast, and even the grown children.
00:50:40
Speaker 14: And it gets competitive.
00:50:42
Speaker 12: The kids that come out, we have regulars that we see at most of our events, and the games get serious.
00:50:48
Speaker 15: So bring your A game.
00:50:50
Speaker 9: Good.
00:50:50
Speaker 4: I love that. Throw it down. So 4 to 7 p.m.
00:50:55
Speaker 3: On Saturday.
00:50:56
Speaker 4: 4 to 7?
00:50:56
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:50:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be fantastic. The websites for if anybody wants.
00:51:01
Speaker 10: To know more, including.
00:51:04
Speaker 4: Y'all can come up here. You can share a mic. You can just stand right here. You can share a mic if you want to give the websites. Coach, you got anything more? I'm just giving all you guys an extra chance to say any more.
00:51:15
Speaker 13: Let the Friends of Belmont Beach shout out their website. But the Parks Alliance, we have a project page for the Reverend Mosel Sanders. This phase specifically will dig into not only the scope, but also the project partners. And so the parksalliance.org is kind of where you can learn more on our project page.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:51:30
Speaker 17: Yeah.
00:51:30
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
00:51:31
Speaker 12: And make sure that you follow us on all of the social media. So friends of Belmont Beach, belmontbeachindy.org. And yeah, just continue to stay in touch. We will, again, we're not closing, but this is just the start of even more awesome programming. So we'll come back even stronger in the spring.
00:51:49
Speaker 4: Okay. Tiffany, any final closing thoughts?
00:51:54
Speaker 22: Hey, just come out and have some hay, some pumpkins, some 4 to 7 o'clock fun, lots of activation on the site, and yeah, lots to see.
00:52:03
Speaker 14: Bring the kids.
00:52:05
Speaker 21: And before we close out, too, I want to make sure I leave room for Coach, but for those that don't know the area, Mozilla Center's park is located at School 63. If you just put it in your Google Maps, come out and get a good time, good parking. School 63 is located where?
00:52:18
Speaker 4: 1300 North.
00:52:21
Speaker 15: Belmont Avenue.
00:52:22
Speaker 4: 1300 North Belmont. Coach?
00:52:26
Speaker 14: It'll be a first for me too.
00:52:27
Speaker 20: We're using golf carts so we just realized in the back here, this is a safari not a nature hike.
00:52:32
Speaker 8: We will spot some.
00:52:35
Speaker 20: Wildlife and we'll have some fun.
00:52:39
Speaker 4: Safari not.
00:52:43
Speaker 4: Well, anyway. Thank you all. Good luck with everything. We really appreciate you coming in. And again, everything, Saturday the 17th, is absolutely free. When does the tilling and getting the thing ready for the garden, is that in the spring?
00:53:03
Speaker 15: By spring, we should be moving some dirt.
00:53:04
Speaker 4: Moving some dirt, yeah. Something's going to be happening.
00:53:06
Speaker 3: Turning over.
00:53:07
Speaker 4: I don't know all the terminology. Even though people say, you're from southern Indiana. I know you lived on a farm. No, I didn't. But I know that in the spring, you start doing that stuff.
00:53:17
Speaker 2: In the spring, we start.
00:53:18
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, keep us posted on that because that's going to be huge. Get another two-acre community garden on the west side.
00:53:24
Speaker 8: Certainly is.
00:53:25
Speaker 4: Got it, Eric.
00:53:26
Speaker 5: Awesome, awesome, awesome.
00:53:27
Speaker 4: Okie dokie.
00:53:28
Speaker 5: I'm ready.
00:53:28
Speaker 4: We'll be back with more. We're going to be talking about public question number one on the ballot for elections in the state of Indiana right after this.
00:53:42
Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise.
00:53:56
Speaker 8: AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
00:53:59
Speaker 10: And we are back.
00:54:00
Speaker 4: I want to apologize to our folks online. Eric, the YouTube channel, we had a caller, not a caller, a listener, a viewer that notified us that the YouTube channel was down for about 15 minutes. The YouTube channel has been going in and out the entire show. So I apologize. But thank you for that. We see you now. Somebody else said the channel didn't come up from them. Our engineers and our folks are working on it like crazy. I'm sorry I missed your questions. There was a question for Ted Hardy. There was another question. How long have they been doing work for the project? So technology, it's just technology wasn't very nice to us. But we will do our best to make sure that we keep everything up. As updated as we possibly can, and hopefully that won't happen again. You know, it's frustrating, Eric.
00:54:58
Speaker 2: It is.
00:54:58
Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Where are you? Oh, he's on the phone. Well, we have been talking a lot, and a lot about voting early, the elections, especially public question number one on the ballot for Indiana voters, for Hoosier voters. A lot of concern about that, a lot of interest in that, and so today we have, I think, OK.
00:55:27
Speaker 10: Oh, James is OK.
00:55:28
Speaker 8: James Patterson.
00:55:29
Speaker 4: Thank you, James, for being with us. We have the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus, which has been very involved in translating, helping and, you know, helping Hoosiers understand exactly why public question number one on that ballot and two. But public question number one especially is so, so very important. And here with us now, we are awaiting one more. And he may be calling in. He may be coming in. But you know what? When he gets here, he'll be in. So we appreciate Senator Greg Taylor. And I know he'll be here. But also here with us in studio is Indiana State Representative Cherish Pryor. She represents Indiana House District 94 and a Democrat and also a member of the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus. And Representative Pryor, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Thank you and the IBLC for the wonderful, the beautiful translation of question one. You all made it plain. The IBLC made it plain.
00:56:27
Speaker 10: Yeah. We try to.
00:56:29
Speaker 22: Yeah.
00:56:29
Speaker 10: Senator Taylor will make it plainer.
00:56:31
Speaker 11: Oh, he will.
00:56:32
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:56:32
Speaker 10: Or more plain.
00:56:33
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:56:33
Speaker 10: Plainer is not a word.
00:56:34
Speaker 4: More plain. Plainer. You know, we can say plainer, worse, or, you know, we can, we can say whatever we want. As long as we get the point across.
00:56:42
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:56:43
Speaker 9: Yes.
00:56:43
Speaker 4: But, but you, you know, we, we've talked about it every time we see each other, you know, we, we talk about the, the importance of it. And I said, just, you know, you guys come on.
00:56:52
Speaker 17: Mm-hmm.
00:56:53
Speaker 4: And, 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310 is the number. We'll also, as long as it's up and stays up, our live stream. So let's start from the beginning. How did this get on the ballot anyway?
00:57:08
Speaker 10: Okay, so, well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show, Tina, so that we can.
00:57:17
Speaker 10: Let people know what this particular question is. And then, you know, we can even talk about some of the other legislation that got passed this session too. Because there's a lot of stuff going on.
00:57:28
Speaker 4: They got it in there, didn't they?
00:57:29
Speaker 10: Yeah, they did. But this is a ballot question. And this is ballot question number one. And it deals with bail. In the process for getting something, and this is a ballot question to change the Indiana Constitution. So it's not easy to change our Constitution. But when it is changed, it's pretty hard to change it back. And in order, the process that this particular question went through was it has to pass two different legislative bodies. And what we mean by legislative bodies is it's after each every two years. So it has to be two separate legislative bodies or after two particular elections. So we passed it. I think the first time was about two years ago in 2023. And then we passed it again in 2026. And so now people will be able to vote for the question of whether or not we want to change the constitution. to deny bail for more offenses. Currently, there are only two offenses that the judge can deny bail for, and that's treason and murder. Under this new provision, it doesn't make a distinction. If anything can be denied bail, and this includes misdemeanors, it includes felonies, and it also includes nonviolent offenses. And so people who have not had their day in court could potentially sit there until the judge decides until their trial date. And so the concern is, you know, particularly for the minority community, we could have more people just sitting in jail waiting for their day in court. Could be innocent. And they could even beat the charges. But they were denied bail on the front end. And that's a big concern that we have because, you know, definitely going to affect the marginalized communities. Also, if you're sitting in jail and you're denied bail, you could lose your job, you lose your home, you lose your kids. I mean, it's just a situation that continuously spirals out of control. And I'm certainly not going to say that there are certain crimes where bail should be denied.
01:00:20
Speaker 4: But why does that have to be in the Constitution?
01:00:24
Speaker 10: Because right now, judges can set the bill so high that you can't get out. So there's already that in place. But this has expanded it. And what it's saying is, and I just want to read this because it's left up to the judge to determine what these things are. It said, the proposed change would allow... denial of bail for any offenses if the proof is evident or the presumption strong. There's no clarification as to what those measures would be.
01:01:06
Speaker 4: What does evident and strong mean? Isn't that subjective?
01:01:11
Speaker 14: It's not.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: Exactly. It's not clarified.
01:01:14
Speaker 3: Exactly.
01:01:14
Speaker 10: So it's leaving it up to the judge to make that determination.
01:01:19
Speaker 9: Okay.
01:01:20
Speaker 10: Two, The state proves by clear and convincing evidence that no release conditions will reasonably protect the safety of any person or community. So if you have a judge that don't like a particular race, they may think that there's no bail that I can give you. that will protect the community. And so I'm gonna keep you in jail. The only way I can protect the community is to keep you in jail. And so there's no clarifying law that allows people to be protected. It's totally dependent on the judge. And what you could potentially have is, different crimes in different, well, for Marion County, different courts because we have, you know, several criminal courts here in Marion County. And then it could be totally different across county lines as well. So it's no uniformity, no consistency, you know, whatsoever as to what these particular provisions are. And that's what makes this so dangerous.
01:02:34
Speaker 4: What, what was the impetus for it? Do you know? And what, Have other measures like this been successful in other states?
01:02:41
Speaker 10: I'm not sure about either one of those, Tina. I can't recall that the author of the legislation specifically stated why they felt this would be a good thing to our Constitution. Again, it's a change to the Constitution. So when we pass it, Or if it passed, which I hope it doesn't, which is why I'm trying to educate people. But if it passes, it's going to be that much more difficult to change it because we're going to have probably going to have to build more jails. The more people that are sitting that don't get bail, even nonviolent offenses. I think that's the even nonviolent offenses could fall under this.
01:03:28
Speaker 4: Jaywalking.
01:03:30
Speaker 10: Potentially, you know, if it's a well, I would say it's a. misdemeanor again senator taylor what can give you the the legalities of it but he's an attorney right he's an attorney yes but those low-level uh misdemeanor offenses that are non-violent offenses a judge could say you know what i think i don't want to you to have bail i'm going to deny you bail you're going to have to sit in jail until your trial and the thing of it is some of these cases or court cases, they take a long time. It's not like, you know, your court date is in two or three weeks. You know, what if they're four or five or six or seven months out?
01:04:18
Speaker 4: The wheels of justice move slowly.
01:04:20
Speaker 10: It moves slowly.
01:04:21
Speaker 4: There's already a discrepancy in bail in terms of minorities and, you know, people of color being economically disadvantaged people.
01:04:30
Speaker 22: Yeah.
01:04:31
Speaker 4: Being able to even meet bail as it's set.
01:04:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:04:34
Speaker 4: So if there's none... Mm-hmm.
01:04:37
Speaker 14: James, go ahead.
01:04:37
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
01:04:38
Speaker 10: James Patterson, our contributing analyst, is here. That's certainly another good point. You know, poor people really can't afford the low amount of bail.
01:04:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:04:47
Speaker 4: James, are you there?
01:04:48
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:04:48
Speaker 9: Can you hear me, Tina?
01:04:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can hear you. Jump in. Jump right in.
01:04:52
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah.
01:04:52
Speaker 2: Welcome.
01:04:52
Speaker 4: Welcome. Senator Taylor is here.
01:04:56
Speaker 17: Thank you.
01:04:56
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, good. Good to have Senator Taylor, too, but I wanted to... to speak to Representative Pryor first and let her know that she made a good point about, you know, the case could take a long time. Because, I mean, one of the points that opponents of question one have been saying is that people who aren't convicted yet and they're in jail, if they're denied bail, they could lose their job. But let me ask you, and then they wouldn't be able not only to pay their bills and support their household, they wouldn't be able to pay for their defense or whatever. But let me ask you this first question. When a person, and Senator Taylor can jump in too, when a person is arrested before trial for crimes other than murder or treason, are they not And Representative Pryor, you can answer it. And then Senator Taylor, are they not innocent until proven guilty?
01:06:05
Speaker 10: I'm not the attorney. I'm going to say yes. But the attorney is here. The reason why I brought Senator Taylor is because I want to make sure that people understand the implications for this in our community. I'm not an attorney, so I can't speak to it as an attorney. I haven't practiced law. Senator Taylor can. I can tell people it's a bad thing and tell them my reasons why, but he can go into certainly greater detail.
01:06:31
Speaker 8: Yes, thank you. Sorry for my tardiness.
01:06:35
Speaker 4: You're right on time.
01:06:38
Speaker 8: The important part, James, in the listening public is you are innocent until proven guilty. That's in the Constitution of the state of Indiana and the Constitution of the United States. What this says is something different, which is when you are charged with a crime, a judge could say, well, I think you're a danger to a certain person or you're a danger to society as a whole. Therefore, I'm going to say you can't have bail. In other words, you cannot be released in order to prepare for your hearing for them to prove the state has the burden to prove that you are guilty of a crime. This flips that the other way and it says you have to prove to me that you're not a danger to a person or the community. Otherwise, I'm going to deny you bail. And here's a couple important things and I was listening on the way in And do understand the presumption is strong. It's not a term of art in the judicial process. There are clear and convincing evidence. There's preponderance of the evidence. And then there's other standards. This is not a term of art. So it could be considered subjective.
01:08:11
Speaker 4: What does term of art mean?
01:08:13
Speaker 8: In other words, there's case law that says what you must prove if you're preponderance of the evidence or clear and convincing evidence or presumption. But this is not a term of art. And so a judge could say the presumption is you are actually guilty of what has happened. We've looked at the probable cause affidavit and let's say it's a domestic situation. And we believe that you will return to the place where there's a domestic situation and that you would harm this person. So before you were found guilty, before all the facts are actually put in front of the judge, an impartial judge, they have already determined that you are presumed guilty. Now we have to be careful because no judge, I want you to think about this. No judge would want to put somebody in jail, leave them in jail, and then turn around at trial and say, oops, I made a mistake. Think about this. You're the judge. You make the decision that this person who has been charged with some type of domestic dispute is presumed guilty, and they are a danger, and then you find out it's the total flip way. The evidence shows that this person was not the person who should have been in jail. It may have been the other domestic person. Do you think a judge is going to subject the court to liability for that and overturn their own decision at trial? I want you to think about that.
01:10:08
Speaker 10: Because the judge has already determined that the person was guilty.
01:10:12
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:10:13
Speaker 10: And then if all the evidence... really proves that the person is innocent.
01:10:19
Speaker 4: Why would the judge? Let me ask you both. So then why does this need to rise to the level of a constitutional amendment, which is a lengthy and drawn out process. And as, as you were saying, representative prior difficult to reverse once it's, it's put into place when judges already have the discretionary latitude based on recommendations from prosecutors, to say, you know what, I'm going to deny bail or, you know, whatever, in cases that maybe not, you know, somebody's been bombing or been accused of bombing every building downtown. And the judge is saying, well, I think in the best interest of the community, I'm going to deny bail or I'm going to set bail at $ 325 million.
01:11:05
Speaker 10: So that's already there.
01:11:07
Speaker 4: So why would we need to write? I'm sorry, go ahead.
01:11:09
Speaker 8: So let me tell you where, because you asked the question earlier, where did this come from? some of us in Marion County are familiar with the case where the young man was charged with domestic violence, released based on a bail schedule, and then went back and harmed the person that they were charged with actually harming, right? Actually killed him.
01:11:33
Speaker 4: Killed him, yeah. Killed him.
01:11:35
Speaker 8: That spurred along with IMPD, who went after prosecutor Mears and the judges, spurred the discussion, well, why did this person even get bailed? They've got a long history of domestic violence, blah, blah, blah. Why did they even get bailed? That's where this started. And we have done things at the state level. For example, we have increased the penalty for domestic violence. We have done things like saying that during the pending case, a person can't have a handgun. We've done everything public policy-wise we could to protect that innocent person who's the victim of domestic violence. But this is now going to capture those people who may, for all intents and purposes, the public may be subject to this person doing something to them. But now we've got a judge who's going to say, boy, I would hate to have this person go get out of jail and go harm somebody, and then I got to answer to the public for this. So guess what the default move is going to be? Deny you bail.
01:12:55
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, the.
01:12:59
Speaker 10: The concern, one of the big concerns that I have about this is that it's pretty much everything. So, you know, with the domestic violence, yeah, you can set that bill real high to keep that person in jail. But when you go to the nonviolent offenses and the misdemeanor offenses, the person who, the nonviolent misdemeanor where this may have been the person's first offense, where there's no harm caused to anyone. And that person now could be denied bail. Those are the big concerns and the issues that I have. If we had, if there was a list of a list of some of the crimes that were high level offenses that we could say, you know what? Maybe you don't need, maybe you don't even need a high amount of bail, but, It's not broken down into crimes. This just opens the floodgate up to everything. And everything should not be included to that. And so you're turning people's lives upside down, and they'll never be able to dig themselves out of that hole, even if they are proven innocent.
01:14:30
Speaker 8: And here's the, we already have a definition in Indiana Code for violent crime. crimes associated with rape, murder, sexual assault. We have that definition.
01:14:45
Speaker 5: Armed robbery and all that.
01:14:48
Speaker 8: We tried to amend this bill that now is going to be on the ballot to say violent crime, but that was denied. I think people need to know that. We have some definitions for some really heinous stuff. that you can be charged with. But this now applies to, I mean, when I think about this in rural Indiana, and I think about the subject matter of discretion, is this person dangerous to not just the person, but to society? That definition is broad. That is so broad. A person... who is charged with dealing drugs, are they a danger to society or a person?
01:15:46
Speaker 10: Let's just say marijuana since it's legal in a lot of states.
01:15:51
Speaker 9: The problem is that it's unconstitutional and the problem is that it's discretionary and subjective, meaning that a judge, like you guys have said, can decide based upon his whim of the day. But it says here, who can be denied bail? It explains it in the question. It says that a person charged with an offense other than murder or treason is not entitled to bail if, and we talked about the proof is evident or the presumption strong discretionary subjective. But Senator Taylor, I want you to comment on this question. It says in number two of the description, the state proves, proves by clear and convincing evidence that no release conditions will reasonably protect the safety of any other person in the community. Now, I say that with emphasis, the word proves, because you're talking about proof. So that involves not just the judge, as Representative Pryor correctly said, but the prosecution has got to bring this motion not to give bail. So they're saying it's a state proof. There is no trial yet, excuse me for my emphasis. But this is before trial, so what kind of procedure or what kind of hearing will be held if this is adopted for the state to have to prove? Will the defense have an attorney at that early stage if he or she is innocent? Is there a hearing for the state to prove? And then what does that mean for the defendant to defend?
01:17:44
Speaker 8: Well, that's a great question. James, here's the deal. You would have to have a hearing for this bail to be denied. So the prosecutor would go through the process and say, all right, we don't think this person should be released on bail or otherwise because they're a danger. The judge would then have to prove, I mean, the state would have to prove by clear and convincing evidence, which is the highest standard. I want to make sure. Clear and convincing evidence that the person is a danger. And then there would be a hearing. But here's the reality. That hearing may be two and a half to three months down the road. That hearing could be two weeks down the road. What happens to that person during that period? They're in jail. They lose access to their family, their jobs, their livelihood. What do you think? that person's feelings are going to be when they end up in that hearing to prove that they're a danger to others? I think this is important to understand because there are other states, and I think that question was asked earlier, are there other states that... There are, but there's a distinguishing factor. It doesn't cover... not every state covers all crimes. It's violent crime. And that's what we tried to do before this made it to the ballot. And we even challenged the language because if you look at this language, if you just a novice non-attorney and you look at this language, this, this makes sense, right? I mean, look at what it says. They're, they're presumed guilty and the, Clear and convincing evidence that they can protect the safety, to protect the safety. That sounds like a great piece of public policy.
01:19:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:19:45
Speaker 8: But in its implementation, it is going to be discriminatory on its face. I mean, we can sit here and talk about this all day long, but any, anything like this is going to be subject to what we already see under our current criminal justice system. it's going to negatively affect communities of poverty and color.
01:20:10
Speaker 4: I'm reminded by one of our leaders, and we had a very good conversation the other day in my office, Deon Livingston, and he shared these articles with me, and I absolutely 100% agree. The racist fear-mongering campaigns against bail reform explain the pattern of reform and fear-mongering is the latest example of lawmakers weaponizing the age-old false connection between race, fear, and criminality in terms of bail. When it comes to criminal justice policy, raw, unadulterated fear is among the strongest tools in the anti-reform toolbox. Often racialized, unfounded, and cloaked in euphemisms about crime and public safety, the fear-mongering playbook is simple but effective. It is the weapon of choice for law enforcement and their allies to thwart modest and transformative measures alike, especially those designed to shrink the carceral state and combat the racial injustice. So basically, and then it goes on to make a point about what you're saying, both of you are saying. Nationally, more than half a million people who have been not convicted of any crime are trapped in jail because they cannot afford to pay for their freedom. Under a cash bail system, When a person is detained and presumed innocent, a court determines. But more than half a million people already are because they can't afford the bail. And so it's fear-mongering inaction based in decades, years of racist. Let me get to it. But there's another one he had here that he shared with me. He says the history of bail in the United States. The black codes of bail is what it's called.
01:22:03
Speaker 8: Bail is supposed to be the system that creates an incentive for you to return to seek justice, both by the state and by you as an individual. You have a right to defend yourself. We even go so far as to say you have a right to have counsel, so we provide you a public defender.
01:22:23
Speaker 7: Right.
01:22:24
Speaker 8: Which is all good public policy. But here's the the do understand you. How do you prove you're not a danger to another person when that's what you're being charged with?
01:22:39
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:22:40
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's hard. You can't.
01:22:42
Speaker 8: The burden.
01:22:42
Speaker 4: Especially if it's if it's deep that.
01:22:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
01:22:45
Speaker 4: If it's if if if it's.
01:22:48
Speaker 8: Based on some kind of, you beat up somebody, they've got injuries, so do you, but they got worse injuries than you. How do you know that wasn't self-defense? How do you know?
01:23:05
Speaker 4: Somebody didn't think it through, Senator. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're saying?
01:23:10
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, that's what they didn't think it through, but I mean. And I think the physical, the violent stuff is a problem. But when I think about the fact that there's not, that the offenses where they're nonviolent, where there's no contact with the person, you know, that is what just gets me pulling my hair out. There's no contact. I've had no contact with anybody, but I'm a danger, but, a danger to society.
01:23:44
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:23:44
Speaker 10: A danger to the community when there's been nothing, when, you know, I have no, there's been no weapon, there's been no physical contact, there's been no threats.
01:23:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:23:57
Speaker 10: But under this new, under this constitutional change, those individuals could also just sit in jail because the judge decided, well, you know what? I think you're a threat. When there has been No contact at all.
01:24:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:24:14
Speaker 4: And again, what both of you said and are alluding to is that this disproportionately impacts and affects minorities. And the headline on another article that was sent to me, the Black Codes of Bail, the systems used to dispossess, oppress and control black communities did not end with slavery. So bail in and of itself. So the history there, the history, huge history.
01:24:37
Speaker 8: And we brought this up during debate, and people missed it because there's hundreds of issues that come up during the session. And one of the things that I found interesting about the discussion on this bill was a couple lawmakers who got up and said, well, we've got these people who judges don't evaluate them correctly. In other words, they let them out, they go create some other violent crime, et cetera, et cetera. And I brought up the question for those people. I asked specifically, what counties are you talking about? And you know what county they brought up? Marion County.
01:25:17
Speaker 3: Marion.
01:25:18
Speaker 9: Why not?
01:25:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always Marion.
01:25:19
Speaker 8: Now, here's the interesting dichotomy with Marion County. We don't elect our judges. We don't elect our judges. I want to emphasize.
01:25:30
Speaker 4: We vote on whether or not they should be retained. But they're appointed by who?
01:25:37
Speaker 8: The governor.
01:25:38
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
01:25:39
Speaker 8: So if the governor appoints somebody as a judge and that judge is ineffective, the public has no out except to not retain them.
01:25:54
Speaker 22: Mm-hmm.
01:25:55
Speaker 10: Which never happens.
01:25:56
Speaker 8: Which never, in the history of, there's only been one.
01:25:59
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
01:26:00
Speaker 8: In the history of retention, there's only been one that I remember.
01:26:04
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:26:05
Speaker 8: And I said this at the microphone. I said, you use an example of a county. If a judge is letting out domestic violence, people who are when they run for office, don't you think that would come up in Hamilton County, for example, where judges are elected? It would come up during their campaign. So the people would say, hey, this guy's.
01:26:26
Speaker 4: Well, how's that change then? How's the. How was the election versus appointment?
01:26:32
Speaker 8: We've been trying to get our elected judges back for a long time. It ain't going to happen. It's totally political because they know the whole county would be Democrat.
01:26:40
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:26:42
Speaker 8: You can't have a whole bunch of Democrat judges in Marion County.
01:26:45
Speaker 10: But you can have our Republicans in Hamilton County. The ironic thing is when you look at the largest five counties... They all have a significant number of Democrats and African Americans in them, except for Hamilton County.
01:27:06
Speaker 15: Top five.
01:27:06
Speaker 10: I think Hamilton County is the fourth largest county. Fourth, not even the fifth, but the fourth largest county. They get to elect their judges, but not Marion, Allen, Lake, or Vandenberg.
01:27:21
Speaker 2: St.
01:27:21
Speaker 8: Joseph.
01:27:22
Speaker 2: St. Joseph.
01:27:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, St.
01:27:23
Speaker 4: Joseph.
01:27:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:27:24
Speaker 13: St.
01:27:25
Speaker 14: Joseph.
01:27:25
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:27:26
Speaker 10: So those, the top five. So you skip over the fourth and let the fourth elect their judges, but you jump down to the fifth and say they can't.
01:27:42
Speaker 4: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. Got a number of folks on the line here that want to talk to you. We're talking with Indiana State Senator Greg Taylor, Indiana State Representative Cherish Pryor, contributing analyst James Patterson, and of course our producer Eric Garns, specifically about public question number one on the Indiana ballot that you as Hoosier voters will be voting yes or no to, yes or no to when you vote, either now, early voting, or election day, Tuesday, November 3rd. Public question number one. We've talked about it, and we're going to talk about it some more, but I want to give you all, our listeners, a chance to weigh in. Reverend Alexander, you have a question.
01:28:29
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
01:28:29
Speaker 4: How are you?
01:28:31
Speaker 18: Well, good afternoon, Ms. Cosby, and to your guests as well. And I want to make sure that, you know, the community understands. we need to vote no to this.
01:28:42
Speaker 5: I appreciate.
01:28:44
Speaker 10: Vote no.
01:28:45
Speaker 2: Make sure we.
01:28:46
Speaker 18: Understand that we need to vote no. And I certainly appreciate, you know, our senator and representative coming in and sharing with us, you know, what the impact could be here in Marion County. However, I also want us to highlight something that I think is critical. A couple things I heard, you know, in your conversation on today is, one, this was voted on a couple times over the last couple of years, and the community was not informed about it. The community was not, I'll say, given an opportunity to say, hey, we need to stop this. I also heard, you know, Representative Pryor say, We need, you know, I need to defer to a lawyer to answer these questions. Here we are, you know, in the middle of early voting. And this should have been extreme. This should have been explained way before now. And while I appreciate what our representative and senator are doing, I think they're carrying water that should have been carried from the Democrat Party, state level, local level, and now here they are trying to inform people. And we should have known about this. This shouldn't just be coming on the Tina Cosby show now, you know, while early voting is going. We should have had, because a lot of our young families are impacted. When we talk about due process, we know now we're at a state where due process is is pretty much, no, there is no due process when we look at ICE. So when we talk about due process and whether I'm going to get bail or not, we got to be real. There's not going to be due process. So, you know, I appreciate what they're doing. But what really, I'll say, aggravates me is that we should have had party leadership, should have been leading this effort, should have been sharing this with folks that are impacted by this and our representative and senators shouldn't be forced to like help try to explain it now at the 11th hour.
01:31:09
Speaker 4: Thank you, Reverend Alexander.
01:31:10
Speaker 8: And thank you, Reverend Alexander, for those comments. But I want to talk about the process and what it takes. If you attended this summer Any of the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus town halls.
01:31:30
Speaker 4: And there were how many?
01:31:30
Speaker 7: Nine.
01:31:32
Speaker 4: I think we had nine this year. Okay, yeah. And every corner of the state, from Evansville to Gary, you had public. And we shared a number of those on here, too, as well.
01:31:43
Speaker 10: We added Anderson.
01:31:46
Speaker 8: We added Anderson, so it might be 10.
01:31:49
Speaker 10: I think that's not.
01:31:49
Speaker 8: We brought it up. Every one of those hearings. And we brought it up during the session when this was first voted on. The first time. I remember actually being on your show, Tina, talking about this. But here's what happens. And I want to give the public a lot of credit. What happens is these issues like this bail question gets pushed to the bottom because we have things like national redistricting. Because we got You know, you understand the first time this passed was 2024.
01:32:23
Speaker 4: 2023.
01:32:24
Speaker 8: Was it 23 or 24? I think it had to be two consecutive, so.
01:32:29
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's on our paper.
01:32:31
Speaker 8: Okay, all right. So, all right, I'm going to go with 2023. Okay, go with the paper. Here's the thing. So, it gets passed, and that's the first process. And then you must go through that process again. There's hearings. We had hearings on it. I was shocked. It was on the agenda probably five or six times. And to be honest with you, there was very little testimony against it. We did have some advocates for some communities that were there that testified against it, but, you know, it passed. And then on the floor, there were, it passed along party lines in the Senate. I can't speak for the House. I think Be honest with you. I think there might have been a couple of these that voted for it in the House. But I'm not going to say that, but I think I remember that.
01:33:24
Speaker 5: But anyway.
01:33:24
Speaker 10: I would say the Black Caucus voted against it.
01:33:26
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
01:33:27
Speaker 8: There you go.
01:33:27
Speaker 4: Collectively, yeah.
01:33:28
Speaker 8: Collectively.
01:33:29
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:33:31
Speaker 8: Do understand that the best remedy for this, and I've always said this, is the public to step up and say no. This is.
01:33:45
Speaker 8: We're a small body relative to the 150 legislators. There's 16 of us. We've been screaming about this. But we've also been screaming about redistricting. It's like we're always on the defense. So it's hard to be on the offense on these things sometimes. It's a lot.
01:34:04
Speaker 10: The Medicaid crisis that we're dealing with as well, trying to do this. There are so many issues that we have to, and they're a huge issue. They're big issues.
01:34:17
Speaker 8: The minority women business issue is going to be another big one that's going to have to come up. So we're going to have to take time to talk about that too. The reality is all we can do is get our voices out there. And I appreciate Reverend Alexander because part of the Concerned Clergy, they get that information out there, and I know they've been talking about it. So I appreciate their efforts too. But we have talked about it in every town hall.
01:34:42
Speaker 9: Okay.
01:34:43
Speaker 10: And then the homelessness issue, criminalizing homelessness.
01:34:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about that as well. Donna, you have a question for our lawmakers. Go ahead. How are you?
01:34:53
Speaker 2: Good afternoon.
01:34:54
Speaker 4: Good afternoon.
01:34:55
Speaker 11: Good afternoon to my state rep prior, my state senator.
01:35:00
Speaker 16: Hi, Donna.
01:35:01
Speaker 9: Thank you.
01:35:03
Speaker 11: With Reverend Alexander, I agree that that we should have been carrying this water a long time ago. And also I agree with our legislature that there's so much going on and you can only do so much. And for me, we just have to, we have to reinvent the wheel on how we get out of this low information community that we have. There are just way too many things that our legislature, they can only do so much. And as they said, they're a small number. But there are other entities that should be a part of the spoke in information, our media, our churches, our civic organizations. You have, you know, the Divine Nine. You know, they jump up and down about what they do.
01:35:51
Speaker 9: Guess what?
01:35:52
Speaker 11: These are things they need to carry water on. And we do a bad job in Indianapolis and Indiana as far as communications. We have a lot of things that should go on and be carried.
01:36:05
Speaker 7: We just don't.
01:36:06
Speaker 11: Do a good enough job. That's on that. What I wanted to talk about, I know you said it was the Amendment 1. Equally concerning is the amendment dealing with the judges being out of county. That's an alarming thing for me. And unless we have a bunch of judges already out of county that we don't know about that are coming into Marion County, and handling their business with the folks of Marion County. State rep, state senator, do we have a lot of judges that are sitting on the bench in Marion County coming from other counties already?
01:36:39
Speaker 8: Okay, so I want to talk.
01:36:41
Speaker 9: Why was this amendment necessary?
01:36:42
Speaker 8: Okay, so let me talk about question number two, because it doesn't apply to Marion County.
01:36:50
Speaker 5: Here's why.
01:36:51
Speaker 8: If you read the question, it says to permit a judge of a city or town court We are what is called a superior court, okay? City or town courts, there are 38 town courts, excuse me, 38 city courts and I think 14 town courts. We've got town courts in Muncie, Elkhart, Goshen, Napanee, Attica, Marion, Indiana. There is a town court in Beach Grove in Marion County But this does not apply, so I want to make sure this is clear to all the listeners. This does not apply to Superior Court judges living outside of the county. So please make sure that information gets out there. This was a bill that was put together because rural Indiana is losing population. And when you lose population, you also lose attorneys that can run for office in those city and town courts. The difference is the words city and town.
01:38:00
Speaker 4: Yeah. Denise, you have a question. Go ahead. How are you?
01:38:06
Speaker 23: I am absolutely disappointed and flabbergasted. This is a no answer, regardless of how you guys explain it or put it out there. Time is of the essence. I just think we should have been talking about this last month, two months ago. I just got the clarification last night, to be honest with you, last night on Reverend Alexander's show. And it was Prosecutor Mears. who explained it in an elementary way that would affect the black and brown people here in Marion County. And I'm so disappointed that I'm just now getting a clear understanding that it doesn't have to be debated. The answer is no. And the lady that talked about Divine Nine, I can't believe that none of them decided to put this on the public agenda during their events or programs. And not to mention at the Indiana Fair, at all of these public events that we've been to, I heard nothing about this. I am offended. I am absolutely offended. Little Pookie, little Madman, little Taniqua, all of them are going to be held in jail indefinitely.
01:39:38
Speaker 4: They have children?
01:39:40
Speaker 23: I mean, how do we get it out now at the early voting sites? Do you need people to go there with a balloon hanging and say, vote no on one? What are we going to do?
01:39:56
Speaker 10: Thank you. Thank you for that. The reason why we're here is because we want to educate people to vote no. I think we probably should have been saying that quite clearly. But I think I will say this. I posted something on my Facebook page about this and it had this one page handout. The first time ever I have had more shares on something than I did likes. So I think some of us have been trying to the best we can share it. When I've been seeing people, I've also been making sure that I've educated, been educating people on it, um, as well. And, and, uh, she was talking about the different organizations. The one thing that I also did do was tag a bunch of different organizations on it as well. So hopefully they will be educating folks about it too. But again, It's a big issue. If people want to have go out to the polls and stand out there with with some of these handouts, we can certainly as a black caucus get copies of the handouts that explain the question to people so that people know what these questions are so that they can also vote no. That would be great. And she can call the black caucus office and get more information or get additional handouts as well. So I appreciate that.
01:41:32
Speaker 8: And I appreciate everyone who talked about getting out the message. We clearly need to find a system that we use. and I've already started discussions that we need to start talking about the things that go on in a session. I think, Tina, we came here every week.
01:41:55
Speaker 4: Oh, every single week.
01:41:57
Speaker 8: Every week during session last year.
01:41:58
Speaker 4: And we talked all summer about the town halls. Let me ask you a question. And James, by all means, jump in here as well. The town hall in Indianapolis, how many attended?
01:42:12
Speaker 5: About 80 people.
01:42:14
Speaker 10: About 80 to 100.
01:42:15
Speaker 4: So overall, from one to the last one up in Lake County, how was attendance throughout the summer for the town halls?
01:42:23
Speaker 10: It depends based on the city. So we had, I think Indy had probably the most this year. But we had probably as low as 50 and then as high as 100. And I'm glad you brought the town halls up. The thing is, We do promote those. We promote them. We try to get people to come, but people don't show up. It's on a Saturday, and we do them on a Saturday so people have time. And we get the information out there and put the information out there, and we partner with different organizations thinking that that will help.
01:43:06
Speaker 4: I understand the frustration of not having her. But I also feel frustrated in that, and I've sat here before, that no matter how, you try and try and try to get people involved. And then, well, nobody told me or I didn't know or I didn't hear. And yeah, let me ask you this. Are the town halls streamed?
01:43:25
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:43:26
Speaker 10: They are streamed.
01:43:27
Speaker 4: So you didn't have to be present. You just had to know about it and take a couple of minutes to hit this little thing right here and just join the stream and ask a question here or there.
01:43:38
Speaker 10: Michael Jefferson covered... I think all of the town halls, maybe it was one that he was not able to actually live stream. And he did that free of charge out of his own pocket, traveling around the state with the Black Caucus.
01:43:55
Speaker 4: James, go ahead.
01:43:56
Speaker 5: Definitely, Tina.
01:43:57
Speaker 9: I think that the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus, with two members here, Representative Pryor, Senator Taylor are doing a fantastic job, in my view, of working with all these issues they've got to work with. And so they're doing the best they can, but they want to improve.
01:44:15
Speaker 4: And that's, you know, well, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, everybody gets frustrated. I can't imagine being in a minority. that long and seeing just getting steamrolled for the most part.
01:44:28
Speaker 8: Oh, my goodness.
01:44:28
Speaker 4: Because this GOP supermajority, everybody, listen, not a majority, a supermajority that is just basically having their way. They don't even have to ask, talk to you all, interact with you all, bargain, saying, hey, let's do this and let's do that the way that it typically is done or traditionally has been done. They don't have to do that.
01:44:50
Speaker 3: They don't.
01:44:51
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, James. I didn't mean to cut you off.
01:44:53
Speaker 2: No, no.
01:44:53
Speaker 9: But I know you got a caller or two you want to get in. But I just want to say this quickly. That's why it's so important that people vote because they just need.
01:45:00
Speaker 2: Right.
01:45:00
Speaker 9: I think you guys correct me if I'm wrong. Senator Taylor and Representative Pryor, you need four seats in the House to break the supermajority.
01:45:08
Speaker 14: Correct.
01:45:08
Speaker 9: Six in the Senate, I think. It's six in the Senate.
01:45:11
Speaker 8: Yes.
01:45:11
Speaker 7: Is that right?
01:45:12
Speaker 9: Okay, so I want to go back to what you guys were saying. Also, Tina, what you were saying about, you know, people need to get involved. So, you know, we're not lambasting you. We're not getting on you, but you need to stay involved. We had a person call here the other day. I'm not going to call his name, but he's listening. He knows who it is. And he had a guy in his house who wants to vote, but we've been saying for weeks registration's going to be over, you know, at such and such a time. I think it was October 5th. And then he called after October 5th. Well, I don't know if he's registered. You see, that's what you've got to ask. Faith without works is dead. So let me ask you guys public question two. We were talking about that because you explained it to us, Senator Taylor. It says the state of Indiana Constitution will be amended to permit the judge of a city, you use those words, Senator Taylor, or town court to reside in, one, the county in which the court is located, or two, the bordering county. This is the change, because I looked at Article 6, you know, Section 6, Article 6, closest to the city or town in which the court is located. So for those... Those courts that are in the city or town court, city court or town court, they can have a judge from a bordering county, and they said something about, you know, you can even measure the distance. Are you short on time, Tina?
01:46:40
Speaker 17: No, no, no.
01:46:40
Speaker 4: I was just saying he explained that a little bit ago.
01:46:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't... I'm sorry.
01:46:44
Speaker 9: The question is, does he... You didn't tell us. Should we vote no on that? I mean, what do you think in your view?
01:46:50
Speaker 8: I would.
01:46:52
Speaker 17: So.
01:46:53
Speaker 8: that issue came up during the session and these small cities and towns across the state are having problems with getting judges to run. So I think it's, I'm not going to get, I'll probably vote no because I'll be honest with you, it starts here and it could end up with our superior court later. So I don't want to support a precedent. Right now it doesn't apply to Marion County, but Because we only have a circuit court. That's the only constitutional court we have in Marion County is a circuit court that we elect that judge. But in other, you know, Beach Grove has a city judge. Marion has a city court. Other communities across the state, Elkhart, Goshen, Napanee, Attica, Gas City, they all have city courts and town courts. And so it would only affect them.
01:47:52
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:47:53
Speaker 4: Dee, we have less than one minute, so you have a question.
01:47:55
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
01:47:57
Speaker 16: My question is, how can we get a copy of the questions so that you can talk to people that are around and they can see what it really means or try to get someone, like, small teams or small groups?
01:48:11
Speaker 8: Okay, so type in Google, constitutional question number one, Indiana ballot.
01:48:18
Speaker 4: What about the Black legislature? Caucus's explanation?
01:48:22
Speaker 8: The website is on our website.
01:48:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did tag our caucus. So on our Facebook page, it is on, if you scroll down, it should be on the Facebook page as well.
01:48:33
Speaker 9: I looked for it on the Black Caucus website. I didn't see it.
01:48:37
Speaker 7: Is it on there?
01:48:39
Speaker 10: I don't know about the website, but it should be on the Facebook page.
01:48:44
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:48:45
Speaker 8: Yeah, the website has to go through staff and all that stuff.
01:48:48
Speaker 16: What about those that don't have Facebook?
01:48:52
Speaker 14: Yes.
01:48:53
Speaker 10: So if you leave, ma'am, if we can get your name and number, I will put our fact sheet in the mail for you.
01:49:03
Speaker 9: Okay.
01:49:04
Speaker 2: Okay. I will.
01:49:05
Speaker 22: Okay.
01:49:05
Speaker 10: Yeah, so give us your address.
01:49:08
Speaker 4: In short, public question number one. No.
01:49:11
Speaker 8: No.
01:49:12
Speaker 10: No, no, no. No, no, no.
01:49:14
Speaker 9: James?
01:49:15
Speaker 8: And if you want to just say no.
01:49:16
Speaker 10: No, no, no.
01:49:19
Speaker 7: No, no, no.
01:49:20
Speaker 10: Just for your peace of mind, just vote no. If you're not sure, vote no.
01:49:23
Speaker 8: Call your people and tell them to vote no. If we turn down in Marion County, we can stop.
01:49:29
Speaker 17: This, okay?
01:49:30
Speaker 23: We'll get it.
01:49:30
Speaker 9: We'll get it.
01:49:31
Speaker 4: We'll get it. Okay, we'll talk about it again a couple more times before Election Day because we got to make sure that folks get this in there.
01:49:39
Speaker 8: I'll call in a couple times before Election Day to remind people to vote no.
01:49:43
Speaker 16: All righty.
01:49:44
Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you.
01:49:45
Speaker 10: Thank you.
01:49:45
Speaker 4: Hey, we got to go.
01:49:46
Speaker 10: Eric's playing the music.
01:49:48
Speaker 4: James, thank you for joining us. We'll be back.
01:49:50
Speaker 3: Tomorrow with more.
01:49:52
Speaker 6: Pardon?
01:49:52
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:49:54
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stay there. Stay there. Oh, he's on right now. He's got it on right now. Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.

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