Dr. Daved Rosensweet: What Nobody Told You About Your Own Hormones

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, and welcome to the C3 Podcast Code Conscious Conversations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Dr. Lisa Piper, here with Wendy Cona's Born We Are The Founders of Code Health.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the C3 podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Today, it is our pleasure to have a David Rosenzweet MD.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is the founder of the Institute of Bioidentical Medicine and the Metapause method, an author of Happy Healthy Hormones, with over 30 years of experience specializing in Andropaas and Metapause treatment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has trained thousands of medical professionals and developed precision protocols used to treat more than 12,000 women, a nationally recognized lecturer at leading medical conferences including the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the American College for Advancement in Medicine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Rosenzwee was called to Washington in 2019 to speak before the national academies of science, engineering, and medicine on the safety and efficacy of bio-identical hormones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His work focuses on precision hormone replenishment, determining the exact dosages,
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[SPEAKER_02]: mental clarity and long-term health.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the C3 podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an honor and pleasure to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so we, we like to open up the dialogue and we have a very special question for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you hear the word consciousness, what does it mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what is one daily habit that helps you stay more conscious in your life, health, or work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good one, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You only asking the most important question that relates to life and health that exists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I love this topic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, consciousness is the ability for us to be aware of what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We think of awareness first of what's going on outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we're a consciousness is really fine-tuned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and really skilled, we're able to see the beauty and feel the love and the happiness and joy and divine nature of life on earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet there's many impediments to the human consciousness, places where our minds and our emotions and our body can be glitched in part
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[SPEAKER_00]: is to me is to heal and what is at the core of all healing to me is identifying what is important for us to heal and it begins with our consciousness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's in our minds?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are minds are distracted?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's distracting them which is uncomfortable emotions that we've repressed?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So acquiring the skills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to deal successfully in a healing way with our emotions in our mind, not so much our nature of our emotions of our mind, which is spectacular, but with unhealed parts, the fear, the sadness, the anger, the shame, the guilt, the hopelessness, the powerlessness that our emotions that are bottled up in every human being on earth,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the ability to also identify the unbeneficial thoughts and thinking that interferes with decisions and screws up many of the relationship and business and at home, the ability to identify this so to become conscious of where we have things that need to heal and what we feel and what we think and how we communicate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the issue of our time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And without it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's the most important thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It underlies all of medicine, all of healing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we can work with molecules, yes, we can go to the gym, yes, we can eat well, but underneath it all is are we capable of healing our hearts and our minds and our souls, and there's a skill set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't grow up in our society that took four year olds in the elders, the elder females and the elder males.
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[SPEAKER_00]: sat down a four-year-old and said, we're so grateful that we, you're with us, and we love you so much, and you're so beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot to learn, and we're going to guide you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to start at this age, and we're going to give you an exposure to a lot of tools.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the one of the ongoing mentoring we're going to do with you is we're going to teach you about your emotions
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[SPEAKER_00]: joyfully express the nature of who you are in your mind and your emotions and how do I identify the impediments so that you can heal those impediments and live the life that you're here to do and have the miracle and the love and the happiness and the fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we didn't grow up with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the challenge of our times for each individual is to really identify that there's limitations and they're in self.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not outside self.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not this other country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not this other race.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not this other color of skin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not her fault or his fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that any impediments that are leading to trouble in my day-to-day life and my relationships where every word counts, this is in me to heal first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing I have control over by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so to acquire the information tools support, there's a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To heal our emotions in our mind, you ask for what's the most important tool it's to be committed to that, to identify that there's feelings and thoughts inside of me that aren't serving me and have led to the difficulties I've been in, and I'm going after it, I am going, I'm committed to healing, I'm going to find the people, the resources, the knowledge, the wisdom,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to take this one on full on is my primary commitment in my day-to-day life, because everything else is ingested upon it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the one tool that I think serves me so well is I've come to realize that if there's any trouble in my life it's originating right inside my own mind and my own emotions and how I communicate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called being personally responsible for your own
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's so critical, at least that's the only place we have leveraged, you know, I'm in the business and profession of helping people change, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know how money-minloaded is to change one molecule at a time in myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a lot of respect for those who are really decided that how I am as a being and how I interact with others matters, and I'm going to uncover and heal what's mine to heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awareness, consciousness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to become aware when I myself am getting upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to realize that upset is taking place in me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am going to breathe and feel that those emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is too much how you guys do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I just wanted it to add one thing into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not always easy because the nature of the mind is to be habitual repeating past hurts, past traumas, even all the negative emotions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what you're saying about awareness is really important, but it's also a practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a daily practice that when you do observe your mind taking you to some place where you don't want it to go where it's not serving you, that's when you interject.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you practice changing the angle that you're looking at the problem so that you can see the bigger picture and find a solution.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's consciousness, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Precisely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have tools to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is a daily practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think what it took those football players to arrive at that Super Bowl or bad bunny to do that show along with Lady Gaga.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did it take for them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, this is our day-to-day life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is our day-to-day skill set to feel our feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Accept them, keep them internal, feel them, give them what they need, the acceptance that they need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the beginning tool to heal, become aware of what you feel and if it's uncomfortable, just breathe and feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing a practice called acceptance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're becoming a bigger person, you're becoming a whole person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Identify what you feel, allow it to be the energy that it is, keep it inside and breathe and feel it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really what I was going to say is, you know, as a medical doctor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you're practicing specifically by, you know, your experience and what you've learned and helping women with very specific tools in giving them education and the actual guidance of hormones, right, and hormone replacement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you can give all of these tools to the women and men for that
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can even fine tune the exact dosage that their body, you know, works best at, but if they are not set and balanced and mindful and aware of what is going on in their body, even the best practice of hormone replacement won't be able to help, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a far bigger thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nature has a way of saying, look, this is not whack-a-mo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing better living through biochemistry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got some core work to do on your ability to love and accept yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not going to let you circumvent that by you taking the perfect pill or the perfect hormone in the perfect way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, for our audience, I just want to take a step back for a moment because we were introduced to Dr. Rosen Sweet several months ago and both Lisa and I felt very connected to him and this is exactly why there was more than just.
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[SPEAKER_02]: this brilliant doctor that had been studying and teaching and guiding women on hormone replacements.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what we decided to do was go and experience Dr. Rosen Sweet's practice and really experience how he guides women on providing the proper precision hormone that they need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was taking bio-identical hormones for probably four years now, and I thought that they were absolutely serving me very, very well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't really have any of those typical
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[SPEAKER_02]: Since I have been on this journey with Dr. Rosen Sweet, I have literally every day been more in tune to myself because that's one thing that you make sure that as a woman and as one of your patients that you become more aware of yourself, your body,
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[SPEAKER_02]: how you're feeling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that guides you individually as to where you need to be to be optimal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when you just when you think that you're optimal,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You always say, let's try a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's try this and see how you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it doesn't suit you, then we'll taper it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really is a commitment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But isn't that the way everything has to be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just talked about these,
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[SPEAKER_02]: football players that made it to the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how they got to the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were committed beyond any other team individually and then together as a unit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I personally love with what you do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your company Bright has an app.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes it very, very easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to do these titrations and it's just been really a great experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll at Lisa, you know, talk about her experience as well, but I just really wanted our audience to know that this conversation goes beyond us just interviewing a doctor that specializes
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really has been quite amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for me, I was having symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had not been on any prior hormones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was looking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I did some research.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We went to a conference that had all practitioners spoke to a couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think two hormone specialists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still had this little bit of uncertainty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just really wasn't sure there's topical, there's pellets, there's all these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had that call with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Wendy said, it was just, okay, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know this is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This seems like the healthiest option available.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These hormones are suspended and organic coconut oil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like I love I use fractionated coconut oil on my body every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and I can actually organic whole whole boil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a whole whole boil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought it was coconut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, either way, another great oil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good for the skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was a healthier alternative, maybe two, some of the other things that were out there, but it was the connection between us that I knew that this was the divine guidance that I needed, and this was what I was going to do, and I was suffering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My hot flashes were becoming real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was terrible and I'm very grateful to say I don't have hot flashes anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to say I'm very grateful because when we travel we share rooms and this last trip that we took it was the first time that Lisa was not sweating and sweltering and by the way the room was like 69 degrees and I'm
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[SPEAKER_02]: freezing and she was typically just, she couldn't, you know, get cool enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've witnessed it as well, just as, you know, an outsider and have watched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's, it's a process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nothing is perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's not a simple process, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lee, with
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so Dr. Rosen Sweet, you know, tell for our listeners, when does warmone decline typically start?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the early warning signs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when is it time to take that step to go on to bioidentical hormones?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, technically, in women and men,
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[SPEAKER_00]: plus or minus two years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They start their decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're so rich that most people don't notice the decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: until for most women in the 40s they're starting to feel it, there's some women that notice the decline in their 30s and even there's some women who don't even notice the declines until their 50s, but mostly it's in the 40s that they start noticing it and these are some of the most powerful biochemicals in our body responsible for so many basic functions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like thinking, like temperature regulation, like sleeping, like mood, that as the decline start taking place, there's loud, often life disruptive symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's the innocent unique conflash, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that conflash takes place in the middle of the night, and that starts disrupting a woman's sleep, and all of us know all you gotta do is have some rough sleep
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's so many of these, a woman's ability to think for most women, there's so many estrogen reciprocites in the brain that when some women start getting cognitive decline, they're not remembering names as well, and at thinking as clearly, that's one of the principal things that we meet up with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's vaginal health, there's libido, there's muscle strength, there's the stuff that's going on in the surface, and there's the stuff that's going on deeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that we don't feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Without enough estrogen, you start losing bone, you start losing muscles without testosterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the list, because he's our so powerful,
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[SPEAKER_00]: their absence or their decline really shakes the world for about 80% of women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's about 20% of women that they don't necessarily feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're the ones who were saying to their younger counterparts, what's the big deal around menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But these women are rare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most women, a percent or so, their life starts getting disruptive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's part of an interesting natural process too, interestingly enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's nature saying, okay, your midlife, we're going to shake you up a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The purpose we give you life-stopping symptoms is for you to ask a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the question is, what's going on here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the problem with nature is it wants the real answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So someone who really does their work goes, oh my God, I've got to do some tune up to how I am in my marriage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't keep it together enough to be as PC as I used to be, but maybe that disruption is exactly what is needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get too esoteric here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best time to address the hormone decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is as early as you start noticing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to that point, I think a certain amount of education like you guys are doing really matters because we slip into these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A man loses his morning erection and he doesn't think about it too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his libido asserted a claniness affecting his relationship, but he doesn't, you know, it's molecule by molecule, you don't notice these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting a little grumpier and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, okay, well, it's just relationship hassle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we slip in and women, you know, very active, proactive women who are at the top of their game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They lose some of their motivation, some of their drives are testosterone starts to slip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They lose their libido.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That starts affecting the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The proverbial frog and the warm water that's just a little too warm, we don't notice it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And very often, I've heard comments from women like, for example, we punished testosterone, and the woman says, oh my god, I didn't even realize how much of myself I had lost there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so grateful to have it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so, publicizing the symptoms, so it becomes common knowledge to women in our 30s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You dream of a society where the elders, the elder women say to their 20s and 30s daughters, hey, your parents are regular, that matters, you might need some progesterone here because they know that because they've been through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or a daughter's in her 40s is saying to her mother, God, I'm more irritable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm losing my libido on the mother says, yep, it's time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And listen, here's the golden path that you need to know and what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're moving towards that kind of society in that kind of knowledge, but publicizing these symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, I mean, the first woman that got me on this path, she came to me, she said, I'm going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had gotten so mentally disrupt this old woman who had retired in her forties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much brilliance does it take to do that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just stop and think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're retiring your forties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was losing her mind and she didn't know what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't automatically think this is menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the mood changes, the subtleties, the more that young women can be educated about this, and you know what, who thinks the menopause before it hits you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird future concepts that won't happen to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a great topic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we, but when do you start?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, they earlier the better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much easier to deal with things in the early phases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll always say to all women and all men, we suggest you start when it comes to you to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've treated women as in their late 80s, including my mother and my mother-in-law.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whenever you get a clue from a neighbor, a friend, a relative, that, hey, you got some formal stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta, we think that's the best time to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the best time is as early as you can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I can ask one more question, Wendy, you know, the other question that I really have is what are the pros and cons of each of the delivery methods because like I said, we were at that conference and one doctor said that pellets were the way to go and then there's just a lot of controversy, everybody has a different way of doing it so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what are the pros and cons of each hormone delivery method that, you know, most practitioners don't tell their patients?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're in a very hormonal medicine is in a very unusual situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in an era where there was the generalist, family doctors, general practitioners, and there was specialists like surgeons, but then over the course of my career, people started specializing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you take a specialty like obstetrics and gynecology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a core body of solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can bet your everything on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a few arguments that's appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a few discussions of what bet this is better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a core, but the whole world of hormones got stunted beyond belief.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no specialization called a metaplaser enterprise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's no greed upon it's the wild west and you know what stopped it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everyone got frightened of hormones wrongly so because the information was incorrect in 2002, so nothing developed there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have all these different ideas that have developed and unfortunately some of them are monetary based.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, it's a great question, and I want to just take it to the top of the mountain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost without exception, the ideal way for a woman or a man to take hormones is to apply them to your skin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be absorbed beautifully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you got it's most mimics nature and it's a soft and accurate and daily way of working with your hormones and it's the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm a opinionated guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the best of the best is what you apply to your skin with people don't realize that when they're applying stuff to their skin, 98% of what they're applying is called a base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's a creamer, it's a gel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are very strong solvents, because these are a very in-and-testical hormones are very poorly soluble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need strong solvents to get them up in the solution so you can dispense the right amount from the beginning of the bottom of the bottom of the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can elaborate on that if you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're doing topical, I think it's the state of the art is in an organic oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that they're suspended in organic oil and what you gotta do, you gotta shake the bottle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think every morning we had every evening, you know, they're, they're here for our listeners, they won't be able to see, but essentially, what is so interesting was exactly what you said to me, and I never thought about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So before we get into the application and the individual hormones being applied separately,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's important for everyone to understand what actually is a bio-identical hormone because most people don't know what it really is, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: People think that you're taking actual hormones, but if you can tell us what it is, that would be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and just a little simple clarification, these are oral syringes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're very exact, but there's no needles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These aren't injected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just drop the right amount and then squirt it into where you're going to apply it to your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the world, I mean, hormones have been given to women in men for over 1,000 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been documented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Chinese came up with the first bio-identical hormones that there were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, because hormones exist in urine, actual hormones, they had young women pee and collect their urine and they had young men pee in a different place and collect their urine and dry it out, a powder residue is left, there's hormones in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they gave those hormones to the aristocracy, not to the chemical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are bi-denical, because they're the same molecule that they're ovary or their testicles produced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they just peed out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of what you peed out is the hormones and part of what you pe out is the biochemical processing of the hormones called metabolites, and there's a whole bunch of other stuff in your and so it's not my favorite way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... to take it and this was um... in the history of hormones uh... this was figured out by the pharmaceutical industry in the mid-40s because they recognized that there was a thing called menopause and they wanted to get a way to deliver hormones to women
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they collected urine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was even a project to collect it from pregnant women, but it was too hard to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they used pregnant marriage, they categorized them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of astrogens and other hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In that, there's at least 50% of what's in a human and 50% of what's not in a human.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they put those in pill form, just like the Chinese did, and the women took them morally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although you asked me what's the top of the mountain or that's how I interpreted, I want to take you to what I consider that almost any hormone done decently by somebody who knows what they're doing is good and better than no hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there were women on pregnant merrier and hormones for decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, these women did a lot better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was obvious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I met those women when they wanted to transfer to biodinicals and they were doing a lot better than their
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you never say never, you know, there's a lot of forms of hormones, and they all have their advantages, there's a few of them that I don't recommend at all and tell us is one of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's probably the advocates, but the bioidentical means the same molecule identical to what the ovary produced or what the testicle produced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the ovary produces three major hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the testicles produce one major hormone, and it's the same molecule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How can you do that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, plants have these molecules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How different am I from a carrot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there are some differences, but the all the plant world,
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[SPEAKER_00]: has hormones in there, or they at least have the precursors to hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what good scientists do is they extract one of the constituents of soy, that's because that's a very prevalent source, or also yam, but there's not as many yams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called diastrogen, and they put it through a sophisticated biochemical transformation, and they wound up, they wound up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with this exact same molecular structure as a woman's overie does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she produces estrogenyle, they produce estrogenyle and the molecules are the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, why not do that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, permanent did a lot of good, but 50% of what's in a permanent till human females never seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel comfortable with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, I want the same stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, oral is a way to take hormones, but there's a lot of risks with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's this thing called go to your liver first that puts excessive burdens on the liver it produces a lot of metabolites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is no, don't take these hormones
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to inject every day, that would be a reasonable way to do it every day, but men aren't injecting every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're injecting a couple days a week only the greatest fans in there out there, they don't inject daily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what that does injection goes so quickly in the bus, you need to get these peaks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas topical application, it's slower, goes in slower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the overie does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the testicle does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hear that there is even women getting injectable testosterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it certainly is better than not testosterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but it's not ideal in that peak phenomena going into the bloodstream almost instantaneously or a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a biological way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to copy nature as best as we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is that their friend suggested that language, coffee, nature, went down a cottage, you know, the design is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And pellets, God, you've got to put in enough pellets to last three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when the pellet goes in, it's very high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it gradually takes us off enough to last three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make sense to me and who wants to go to a doctor and get something stuck under your skin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with your opinions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I like I say someone who's good with pallets, boy, they're so better than nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the told people were really like to not have me say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's widespread abuses out there in politics and when I went to Washington, that was their first line of attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were on the attack and they brought up pellets first because there's been problems with pellets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, in the hands of someone who really knows their stuff,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really good at this and experienced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could do a decent job of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't like the methods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sticking up in there for three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And make it last three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not biological.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas daily, you're replicating the body, that you know over the testicles, puts it out, you use it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next day you're ready for your next dose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we do a twice daily for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: much more biological patches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in every three and a half day thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's plastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got only estrogen dial in there and this opens up Pandora's lid on precision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We like to do a naturedid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for example, a woman doesn't have one estrogen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She got three estrogens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of those estrogens is prevalent
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[SPEAKER_00]: as much as the other two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, there's usually a little more of the esterial than there is of the esterone in ester dial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But these patches and other gels, that commercial gels and stuff, they only have one of the ovarian hormones, that should dial, one of the ovarian astrogens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, if you really want me to get technical, why didn't nature come up with esterial?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's so exquisite, if you don't believe in the divine, just take a look at the woman's menstrual cycle and what's going on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should I go into this, this depth of weeds or not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to alert women that there's the superior estrogen is by it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These things are so important and the only way that women and men are able to just learn these things
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[SPEAKER_02]: be interested and have awareness as we go back to awareness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But these are all things that we just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we would love to learn about it because like you said, this is not a common specialty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, women go to the doctor and you don't you don't even know if you're talking to someone that even knows what they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I think really that's another important question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do women discern if their practitioner is even, you know, skilled at this hormone replenishment type of a thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll skip to that question because it is the most important one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A woman decides, hey, I think I need hormone
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many wide variety of things offered by people with varying skill levels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to an orthopedic surgeon in the United States of America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 99% of the chance, you're going to get a good job if you fracture an arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all doing the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they care at all, they're going to do a great job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have figured out fracture to the arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to someone in the world, a hormone, there's no uniform training, there's all kinds of opinions out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So your question is the most important question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, we're in a Dan and Age where a woman simply either has to have a friend who's already done the research.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they go to you and they say I need hormones and you say we got the person for you and we got the method for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A personal referral from someone who's really satisfied and really trust their provider and as learned through that their provider really knows their stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then how do you, but unfortunately we live in a day and age where a woman needs to know a certain amount.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a certain number of questions you can ask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It all begins with how do you feel about the provider?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got intuition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to a doctor or nurse practitioner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A number one thing is you got to like them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of good people out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you're going to listen to what they have to say and there are some key questions and I again I do want to repeat that the patch if the only tool I had was the patch and the commercial promitium progesterone
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would celebrate it and swim when we do so much better, or if they just had a gel and from me trim and we're leaving out testosterone, we're not doing, you know, it's a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get a lot of great stuff done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you can begin with,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel good about this provider and when I go to their website and I have conversations with them, I really feel I'm in the hands of a caring person who cares about this specialty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the next thing to look for is that they are specialized because there's jack of all trades up there, especially in the world of functional medicine and they haven't taken this one on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you go to a website and you see 82 things that they're taking care of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're not specializing in hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how good can you get if you don't specialize?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's another thing to look forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is you should know some things about the topical is queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the world of estrogen, bias, really matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That means that there's two astrogens there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Espedal plus estral.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the provider is starting with topical progesterone because they know topical progesterone absorbs beautifully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all from a compounding pharmacist because that's where you're going to get the best stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The highest quality stuff is coming out of compounding pharmacies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are these people?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's 7,500 up in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I must say, I'm not quite a few of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're the pharmacists who are really interested in pharmacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They like making up individual prescriptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got all this sophisticated equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The main thing is just the bees knees to be able to take details of the precision prescription you're writing and make it up to meet you as an individual.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we have to send.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're having fun doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, shout out to the compound pharmacist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really, it's the first time that I learned about compound pharmacy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was very young and I suffered from egzima as a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the bottom line was instead of having traditional hydrochordizone cream, just put on the doctor that my parents took me to,
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[SPEAKER_02]: had a compounding pharmacy, create, uh, it was like a tar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And really, and it was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that was, it was the uniqueness of the different compounds of what was put into it that just cleared everything up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was young men and I was fascinated by it, you know, for a split minute,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is magic, you know, but there are so many questions that revolve around hormone replacement, hormone therapy, the same way that right now peptides are the the biggest thing, but all of the people that specialize in peptides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The first thing they say is, get your hormones right, get your hormones regulated before you even start with peptide therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for those of you that are looking to do peptides are already doing peptides, they will work even more optimally if your hormones are in check.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you know, there's another important thing that we can't skip over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a program where you actually train practitioners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have, if there's a gynecologist listening or somebody else, a practitioner in the field that's dealing with these kinds of issues, can you tell us about the program you offer for medical professionals?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a very precious year and very opinionated because I think the big difference between myself and most people out there is I decided to specialize in it 33 years ago and we spend day, you know, your whole professional career specialized and one thing you figure it out not perfectly I'm not at the end of my learning and I had to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in concert with women because very little was known.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wrote a book so women would know some things about it and would figure out their individual balance with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because the hormones were going into their body, so I figured it out from the ground up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a method, but I don't really think it's the method.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if just like orthopedic surgeons, they paid a lot of attention to how to set a broken bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the decades, they figured out how to do it right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What works best, and I think that's what we did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the early 2000s I began teaching it, I'm traveling around the country and doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that became very exciting to me that I could affect something more people by training the interested nurse practitioners and medical doctors and osteopaths, the natural paths who were interested in this and licensed to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they go through a rather rigorous online training program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It adds up to about 30 hours and there's quizzes in there and it's, but I get a lot of compliments about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the third generation of it and they learn a lot and then we don't stop there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a weekly grand rounds for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a team that's available to answer their questions because you leave a seminar and if you got to be able to connect with someone and wait a minute, I got this hard case and I got to talk to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've been doing
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we do it online and once a week a whole bunch of writers show up and a whole bunch get the recording and we go case by case so we have a forum for them to help get help from experienced people on our staff to handle their challenging cases because they're out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's you know we're individuals who got a lot of moving parts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and we're there for them if they need a, uh, uh, uh, impromptu call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to get this patient in my office and she got this going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've got to staff ready to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we designed a system and we designed a technology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that really keeps them within safe parameters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they go into our portal and they're communicating through to the patients through the app.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a very sophisticated question there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's graph showing how people are building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't make a mistake prescribing because we got these bumpers because we know what the boundaries are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you get 33 years to do something and you got a big team to do it because I'm very blessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a major team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets really interesting, because we care about standard of care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to be with the neurologists and what the diabetologists have, and what the obstetricians have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got a standard of care, and we feel we've discovered it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't invent it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just paid a lot of attention, did a lot of testing, did a lot of studies to test everything, to brace things out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what that's I spent most of my time is teaching and mentoring a lot of wonderful providers because they come to us with interest there's a lot of high quality people and on the flip side of that any provider can come to our school and any woman patient or men patient out there we can connect them up with a provider because we've trained so many we've got people license in 50 states.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all they got to do is, if they like what we're saying, this is what you're doing, you're choosing people that you like and trust, and you're getting the word out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they can connect with our team and go to bright.live and get a referral to someone who's really skilled in our method, the ones that we recommend nationally, we're in very close contact with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was really the first thing that you said when Lisa asked you the importance of choosing a provider, and you said, you have to like them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for us, that's really what it's all about Lisa and I talk about energy and residents and vibration.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are at a crossroads right now, where
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[SPEAKER_02]: this sick care needs to change where you're not just going into the doctor's office and seeing them for 10 minutes and it's quick and they're throwing you a prescription, it needs to go back to what it used to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, we always talk about it, you know, the the town always had that it was the town doctor, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody, and before it was the town, if it whatever
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that healer, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The elders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it would just be so great to be able to somehow take a step back and to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we really are so blessed that we met you because this is what you have done personally for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've spoken to other people that are in the program.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone says the same thing that they feel like they are getting personalized care and that somebody actually cares and what they're feeling is real because that's another thing when you're going through all of these hormonal changes and you're feeling it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you you're feeling things that you can't believe that are happening to you and that's that's what happened to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not remembering things, and words were not coming to my mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was literally losing my words.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't remember names, and it was during COVID.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought, well, maybe I was having COVID brain or that brain fog kind of a thing, and I went to my doctor at the time, and I, something is not right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, maybe it was, it's COVID brain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, no, Wendy, you just don't have any hormones left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said to him, all right, well, don't I need a blood test to see where my hormones are at?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, no, I said, what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's getting these labs and blood tests.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, let me explain to you, you don't have any.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's your out right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're so low.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't matter what your lab show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to get those hormones into you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that was the point that you made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter, of course you want quality, you know, products and things going into your body.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But just like you said, if someone is putting just something back into their system to make them feel right and getting their system back into check, that's a great start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great start, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I admire what you're, what your health care provider was saying, they've been around the black thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I need a blood test to tell you now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Samuel Kaufman in Boca or Tone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He really was, honestly, he really was an amazing provider.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we could go on and on out this all day and we will definitely have you back on our show again in the future because this is such an important topic that so many men and women alike deal with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But just one more time just so we can end with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do they find you if they're looking to get in touch with you and learn more about what you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, providers should go to I. O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: B is in boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am dot org or dot coms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And women or men should go to B R I T e bright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: B R I T e dot live.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one other point I want to make.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We figured because when I began and treating women in with I realized we had to figure this out together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was very important to not put in any time thing on it because it sometimes it was really easy and quick to figure things out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it took a little more time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so built into our method is women pay a monthly fee and they get all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all they'll very in hormones they need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't have to worry about that clicking clock that ticking clicking clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it takes a certain amount of time and communication and employment to get it really fine to, which is what you want, is you're going to want to go 30, 40, 50 years with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we built a system that you get all the time you need, all the time you want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can attest to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really cannot say enough wonderful things about the bright program and systems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And thank you for having a code conscious conversation with us and really starting off the show talking about consciousness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: While you are talking about it, I was like, are you sure you're a hormone doctor and not a
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a human that had a lot to learn about healing myself and being a better person and relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just went on the journey early to get that one straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Physician, heal myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, did I meet up with that one at a young age?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's another podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We could all talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My pleasure and honor to see you both again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unconventionly dare to explore Breaking barriers open indoors With every step they light the way I am near
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[SPEAKER_03]: One mission, lighting away, transforming the future with love every day With science and spirit that journey unfolds Restoring balance as the future unfolds