639 - Two dimensional pedals, UFO revelations, and Blake visits "the Secret Room"

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Hey there! How's it going?
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Yeah.
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It's going relatively well.
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Relatively.
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I might be ill soon, I don't know.
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My grandson is ill and I feel a little tingle in my head, so maybe I'm about to get it.
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We don't know.
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Other than that, it's going great, Bri.
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How about how about you guys?
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Um, I got my third way huge pedal today.
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I haven't opened it yet.
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I just it just arrived.
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Was that the only pedal that turned up today, Bri?
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No, nope.
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I got um I got what was I gotta look at my reverb.
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I forgot I got.
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I know I have the super lead, I have the the red llama.
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I mean, I like the red llama.
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There's another pedal coming to you, Brian.
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Hasn't that turned up yet?
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Not yet.
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The fat sandwich just drives.
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And then I'll get a Reverend Drivetrain uh here in a few days.
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So Okay.
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Good days.
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Good week to be Brian.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's you know what?
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I thought I've got a company credit card.
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I'll need to buy some pedals this week.
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It's for RD.
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Research.
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Let's go at research and development.
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Oh, yeah.
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My favorite thing to do is RD.
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RD.
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What else I need is a 1969 Plexy.
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Ah.
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Well, how can you know if you're authentically recreating the tones if you don't have one to compare it to?
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Exactly my point.
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One from each year.
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They all sound different.
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They all sound a little different.
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James Marshall.
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Not each year.
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That's a collection worth having.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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Week and technician.
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This is my collection of John Cruise guitars.
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Uh yeah, that would be amazing.
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So you've got your you've got your complete collection of way huge pedals.
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Did they all arrive in three dimensions or were any of them two-dimensional?
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Well, on my Facebook page, you'll notice that there was a I got shipped one of them by a music store, mind you.
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Oh, really?
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In a yeah, by a music store.
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That, and it wasn't sweetwater.
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Um, they you know, like the book packaging, it's like an inch thick or whatever at the most.
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Yeah, it's medium.
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Yeah.
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They did that stuff, just stuck a pedal in there and like taped around, like, ah, good enough.
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Was it even in a box like in there?
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Was it just no raw pedal?
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No, it was just the pedals stuck in there.
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I think it had some plastic around it or something.
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Oh wow.
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Wow.
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And I because I mean I thought it was a person, and I'm like, no, this is a legit music store with like 10,000 reviews, five star.
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And they like I can't imagine that ever being okay.
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That is that's bonkers.
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It's crazy.
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For for the listeners that don't see Brian's um Facebook feed, um, congratulations on retaining your sanity.
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Uh, and also let me describe this to you.
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Imagine a sandwich made out of wonder bread.
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That is essentially what the package looked like.
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Yeah, the pedal must have been incredibly slim line.
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Yeah, I was looking at that.
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I'm like, there's a pedal in there?
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Right.
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I thought it would be just smashed to pieces, but it works so far.
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So far, the uh the stomp switch is permanently on, but other than that, it's fine.
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Right.
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Who needs that pesky stomp switch, anyways?
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Really?
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And do you really need the knobs to turn?
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No, yeah, and yeah, come on, a red llamasn's always on.
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Everyone knows that.
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High game distortion always stays on.
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Hey, I wonder if anyone has ever made like really low profile knobs on a pedal.
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I guess the clon centaur is kind of low profile.
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Well, I mean, take the Ibanez uh seven slugs.
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Yep, mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I will say, as a fan of that series, uh, that is a fun idea.
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Sometimes they get a little stuck in there, and that's not very fun.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Fun ideas often are just impractical wastes of time.
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That is a problem I have noticed.
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Crazy though, though, is that series genuinely has some really interesting and cool sounding pedals.
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Absolutely.
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They didn't need the uh the novelty.
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They just sound great, but yeah, switching's very finicky, and the knobs are, like we said, kind of kind of gimmicky.
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And also, they're kind of boring looking, if we're being real.
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But I really aren't most pedals from that era, you know.
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I mean, like some would say classic, like boss, for example, but really it's just a color with a name on it.
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Yeah, but this doesn't even do the color, it's just gray.
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I guess it's got a little splash of color in the logo.
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A little splash, kind of like the sound tank, the five series.
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Except for this one.
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Except for yeah, you that's right.
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You've got a funky one that not everyone has.
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I got this one, the pink DE7 delight.
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It was like I'd never seen it, I'd never seen a pink one before.
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I believe it was uh Japan only.
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I'd say nothing.
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It's too easy, listeners.
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It's too easy.
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Oh, Richard, get your head out of the guy.
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How dare you! How dare you! Uh, and I think I've mentioned on this podcast before that Josh Scotch sent me that.
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Thanks, Josh.
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You're the man.
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Really?
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Yes.
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Well, I really want a pink one.
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He's like, oh, I got some of those.
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Yeah, I can see Josh.
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I've got like 80 of them.
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Here's one.
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Yeah, you mentioned Josh a little bit too early in the show.
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We'll come back to him later.
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Uh but uh the pedal survived.
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Do you like the Way Huge collection?
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I actually, I mean, obviously I've known of George Tripps and Way Huge for years and years, but I had never I never had one.
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Not for any good reason either.
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I just never came across one.
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So that's that's why I like I was thinking like I don't have any Way Huge and I really need some.
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That's why I splurged and bought three.
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Um but these were my first, and oh I take that back.
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I have the Echo the um the delay pedal, the uh what's it called?
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Oh I think it's way huge.
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It's completely escaped me too.
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I can picture it in my head.
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The green one.
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Yes.
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Anyways, the echo something?
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I don't remember.
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I'm not gonna say anything.
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I like to see you both f flaund.
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I could search the internet for way huge delay pedals.
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Aquapus!
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I was gonna say superpuss, but yeah.
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No, that's a different one.
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Yeah, I got I do I I do have an aquapus, so um but the other the dirt side didn't have.
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I needed those, I got them.
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I would say they're they're different from what I expected.
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I mean, I I'd played through Red Llama or uh the Red Llama Circuit, which is the Craig Anderson tube sound fuzz, I think it's called.
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Um that's that type of circuit it's a good thing.
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But I played through that before, and I I haven't been like a huge fan of it stock, but respect just didn't do the thing for me.
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And so our you know, obviously the red llama being pretty much a clone of that, it does what it does.
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The other ones, the super lead, I um it does a thing that just doesn't work for me.
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It's not that it's bad.
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And this this is I always come back to this.
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Like, even if I get it, even if I get a pedal, I'm like, oh, it's not my ideal of a great pedal, but I can find uses that it works great at.
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But you know, if I'm chicken picking, I don't need the red llama fuzz, for example.
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It's not gonna work for you.
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That's but right.
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But like you can also probably sit back and go, like, I see why Blake likes it.
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Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
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So so I get to a setting, I'm like, yeah, this is a cool setting.
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It's out, this part's cool of it.
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So that's that's kind of what I've noticed is there's there's bits and pieces that I'm like, now that's a cool sound, you know, or or I could see a use in this other context.
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I see that all the time, you know.
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So you'll you'll go into forums and you'll see people be like, this pedal sucks, with no real like anything.
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And I'm like, I don't know, man.
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Not there's I've played a lot of pedals, and I have only found like maybe two ever that I'm like, I can't find a single use for this.
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It was like this one that was shaped like a piece of pizza once.
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That one was who could put that on my board?
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I've already explained that was a pizza that you were stomping on, you were drunk.
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Oh that's why it wasn't making much sound.
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I can't even plug into it.
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It's slippy and everything.
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Uh no, I mean, even the much-hated um, I think it was Digitech, the the crossroads Eric Clapton pedal.
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I I mean you can still get a good sound out of it.
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I can find good sounds out of it.
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Yeah, there's one, maybe two, but yeah, it it's not the greatest pedal, but it is, it's all subjective.
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It it is all subjective, you know.
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I remember wait.
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Somebody like uh, I don't know, some indie artist is gonna use the crossroads pedal on a track and everyone's gonna be like, what is that sound?
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What is that sound?
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And then all of a sudden crossroads are gonna be six hundred dollars.
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It's gonna happen at some point.
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No, uh yeah, you're a hundred percent correct.
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It it comes like the first distortion pedal I fell in love with and spent years chasing the tone of, and then when I got it, I was disappointed, but you know, it it held a place in my heart, is one that everyone hates, which is the boss turbo distortion.
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But I loved like the turbo distortion.
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That's the OD2.
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Uh I think it's a completely different thing, if I remember correctly.
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Yeah, it's a that's a DS2.
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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it it's really not loved by anyone except 15-year-old Ribbon.
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That's another one where I um I I've I I dig it.
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I could find uses for it.
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Yeah, and looking at this and looking at the circuit, that's even one of those things where I'm like, that's a kind of a cool circuit, you know.
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Oh, Bri, don't tempt me.
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The idea of a Wampla turbo distortion.
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Oh, I may expire at the thought.
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Yeah, what about a double HM2, heavy metal?
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Yeah, we're talking and how about that?
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Don't knock it.
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Yep.
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Uh definitely don't knock it.
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Well, um, I'm glad we could call it the manager dual overdrive.
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Okay.
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The manager?
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Yeah, for boss.
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Nurse.
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Nurse, he's got out again.
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The middle manager dual dual overdrive.
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No, Bri, I tell you what we could call it the strategy.
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That's what we should call it.
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The strategy.
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The one plus strategy.
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Actually, that's not a bad name for a pedal.
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Actually, I got I got it.
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Synergy.
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Whoa.
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Yeah.
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Wait a minute.
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You know what?
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That's a good name.
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I'm gonna write that down.
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Yeah, write that down.
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The one plus everyone's talking about synergy in the corporate world.
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Why can't that be a pedal?
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I flipping hate it when corporate people talk about synergies.
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Conversely, I love it when guitar people talk about synergies.
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It's my current amp of choice.
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So uh yeah, I'm digging that.
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But um so I I'm gonna f I'm gonna wind up to the new JHS release because JHS have released a new uh pedal.
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Uh, but I'm gonna get there via a book that is only vaguely related, but the thread follows.
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So uh listeners of the show may have picked up on the name of somebody who has been an exec producer for a while, who's also now a famously published author, which is a chap called Jay Stratton.
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And he has released a book called Out of the Shadows.
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He's also a phenomenal guitar player, more on that later.
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Now, this book, Out of the Shadows, is about his life working for the US Air Force and then latterly the UAP programs, um, unidentified aerial phenomena.
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Let me just tell you folks, and particularly Blake and Brian, I listened to the first three chapters today.
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My mind is blown.
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Like he is the most credible person I've ever spoken to about this subject.
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And in the first chapter, he basically says well, not even in the first chapter, in the introduction, he basically says he has had his whole lifetime like interrupted by non-human intelligence.
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And when you hear that from someone like Jay, you a lump comes to your throat and the hairs on the back of your head stand up.
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Well, and keep in mind, like, this isn't a person that just created a TikTok channel talking about UFOs.
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Right.
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This is not this is not Joe Rogan stoned men just sat there going, I saw the lights, man.
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Yeah.
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Right, he was the director at the gas station.
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Hey man, I know what I saw.
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I know what I saw, right?
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I mean, he might be at weekends, we don't know.
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But this is someone who has worked at the highest levels of the US military uh and has spoken to people from all over the world looking for information, and the stuff he reveals in this book is probably the most exciting UFO book I've ever got into.
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And I gotta say, as soon as we finish recording, I'm probably gonna start listening again.
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It's on Audible as well as I have the Amazon page pulled up right now to hit buy here in a minute.
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So yep.
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Uh he talks, and I mentioned this before.
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I I kind of glibly talked about a triangular UFO over the Pentagon as being one of the things that's actually over the White House, I think.
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And we talked about it being a bit, you know, independence day y.
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But he talks about seeing an aircraft in high-definition photo and video that is triangular with rounded corners that performs manoeuvres that no aeroplane should be able to do.
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And when you again, when you hear that coming from somebody who has literally designed parts of fighter jets, you you stop and listen.
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This is one hell of a book on UFOs, listeners, um, and uh gentlemen.
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So I really, really recommend it.
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Um and I'm only four chapters in at the moment, I think.
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Wow.
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This is gonna be I want to get the book, uh, but I kind of want to do the audible version.
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This seems like this is a sauna listen for sure.
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I mean, it I was disappointed at first because I read the audible description, it didn't say read by the author where I was looking.
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It was like, you know, read by blah blah, but blah blah is some eminent professor who does like an introduction.
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It is read by the author, and it was like, this is so cool listening to Jay tell his story.
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This is this is definitely I would say in the world of ufology, this is the damn gold mine.
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Oh boy.
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So well, yeah, I was I do was doing a little messaging with Jay, and you know, we we hope to speak with him at some juncture.
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So he he's in a band which has a amusing sci-fi related name, and I would like very much to get him and his uh partner in crime in the band.
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I think his name is Dr.
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Travis Taylor.
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Have I got that right?
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Uh I I better get it right because otherwise that that's worth Googling.
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We don't want to watch.
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I think it is.
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I have yes, it is, yes, yes.
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Yeah, it's Travis Taylor, the rocket scientist from Skinwalker Ranch programs.
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If we can get those two on this show, I'm done.
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You may as well send me home.
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What are we gonna be recording for like four and a half hours?
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Because there's I got so many questions.
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I mean, the thing is, is he's obviously a man who knows the uh security service as well.
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So he's not gonna tell us anything that he hasn't already published.
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Sure.
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Now it's published, we're gonna bump him for information.
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I I want to know about the Skinwalker Ranch thing too, though, because there's a lot of I mean, there are some legitimately unexplainable stuff going on there.
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Oh crazy.
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When he talks about it in the book, he's like, and this year I went to investigate Skinwalker Farm where there'd been reports of animal mutilations, strange lights, glowing orbs, portals to other dimensions.
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I'm like, right, this is what I'm here for.
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Give me those portals.
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Yes.
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I I think cat like cattle mutilation is probably one of the most strange and one of the most documented like of things.
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This this is happening.
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Maybe some people just maybe maybe the aliens just like their steak.
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They just they leave the steak.
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That's the thing.
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They take the blood and leave the steak.
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Maybe they're English.
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They like blood pudding.
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Oh, well, actually, I think we've figured it out.
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This is not as crazy as it seems.
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All right.
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I have got a confession to make, Blake.
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Uh inside your pedal that is on its way to you, I have tried to draw a black pudding.
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Oh boy.
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I I hope my rendition is okay, because if not, your wife might look at it and think I'm sending you another message.
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So just leave it at that, alright?
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Oh man.
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I've been checking my veil box every day.
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It's coming to, sir.
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Is it today?
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It it'll probably it'll probably be tomorrow.
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Well, it'll probably be this.
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Wait, it's gonna be this one.
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Did you put it in a box designed for something the size of a guitar pedal?
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No, I actually put yours inside an actual sandwich, Brian.
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Yours is gonna come with baloney and uh mayonnaise.
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It's in a Ziploc bag, it'll be fine.
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I've gone to a lot of trouble to research what gets to America without being destroyed.
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So all of my pedals, uh OliverFX.co.uk, um, ship in a double-walled extra large container, which is nine inches by six by six, and then inside that there's bubble wrap and another box with bubble wrap.
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I was gonna say, if you want to you want to ensure it gets to America without being destroyed, you just put in a put in a cheeseburger because we'll care that.
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Yeah, it's like a stacking doll of boxes, right?
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Yes, it's like a Russian doll of boxes, exactly that, Brian.
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Um, I wanted to send you guys some other stuff, but it was late, and I didn't want it to get caught up at customs.
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Why does this smell funny?
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This is one of Brian's pets, isn't it?
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Uh yeah, Jay's book.
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Go lit go check it out, read it, buy it.
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Um, guys, I'm really excited for you both to get into it and talk to me about it, because at the moment I think I'm gonna be visited by the men in black.
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And actually, there's another story.
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He talks about Project Blue Book.
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Uh Blue Book?
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Project Blue Book, which I knew about, but I didn't know this.
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He said at some point in the past, a group of black-suited people came into the Pentagon and essentially erased all files to do with all the UFO work under Project Blue Book.
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And it was not just like we're taking away your files, they erased everything.
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Like here's the other thing I didn't know, and I should have put two and two together.
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Jay was in the Pentagon when it was struck on 9-11.
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And really, oh wow, he he talks about that in and he's got a very military way of talking, it's all very matter-of-fact statement, proposition, the odd cigar smoke uh reference.
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But generally, it's really matter-of fact.
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And when he like again, you you know how I feel about 9-11.
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Um, and when I heard his story, I was like, I I'm so stupid for not realizing he would have been there.
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Of course, he would have.
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Of course, yeah.
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Yeah, the timing lines up perfectly.
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Yeah, so it's a honestly, this is a great, great book.
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And I'm only four chapters in, I've got like nine hours left to listen to.
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So that's tomorrow's dog walk sorted.
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Oh boy, you're gonna walk your dog for nine hours.
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He's gonna come back.
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It's gonna be like that scene in uh in National Lampoons Vacation where the police officer comes up to the car and he stands, Clark, the lead.
00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:23.839
Um so swiftly segueing professionally on, Josh Scott of JHS has been teasing a pedal for a few weeks and it's come out today, and it is UFO themed.
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I think it's called The Wanderer, The Traveller, one of those two, I forget which exactly.
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Um Wayfarer, or maybe I don't know.
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The Wayfarer find out, yeah.
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Yeah, um, but it's it's actually, I think it might be painted the same colour as the um Tumnus Germanium editions because it's in like a UFO silver colour, and it's one side is a clon, and the other side is a bluesbreaker clone, which is their the morning glory is their bluesbreaker clone, I think, right?
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So clon, uh blues breaker, the other side.
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The wanderer.
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There it is.
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The wanderer, there we go.
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Now, the not a clon was something you assembled it yours yourself, right?
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So do you have to assemble this side of the battle?
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Uh just that side.
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Only that side.
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Yeah, only that side.
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Wow, that would be and the minute you do, you void your warranty on the other side.
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That would be a great move, Josh.
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You could self self-imolate all your warranties by introducing the curiosity factor.
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Uh, I mean, that's a solid partnership.
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Klon into uh well, Tumnus into Pantheon has been one of my favorite combinations for a long time.
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So that's a solid uh double pedal.
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Uh, it's also quite neat.
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What he's done is he's taken the switches because both of them had two modes, two voices, I guess, and he's added remote switches so you can put two remotes into this pedal and therefore use that to control both of those voices.
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So if you know essentially you could have a four voice pedal if I like to have an iPhone app that I can control my pedal with.
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Can you do that?
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Uh back.
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We can do is a red remote switch on this one.
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Yeah.
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I like to use a telex machine to communicate via long distance with my pedal board.
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Is that all right?
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It's a way to do it.
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But look, I mean, it will sell by the truckload.
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We know that JHS has a um a rabid fan base that will eat up anything he puts out.
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So that would be a good idea.
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Have you guys been to the website and looked at their product photos for this yet?
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They are probably brilliant.
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Probably the my favorite that they've ever done.
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Yeah.
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I love this.
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They've done a load of kind of like X-Files themed styled photos, which are this is great.
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I mean, honestly, it's a very, very rich vein of source material, the UFO world.
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And I'm kind of envious that they've got there before us because let's face it, we've literally we are the UFO guys when it comes to guitar pedals.
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Not anymore.
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You know, I I think uh just from a pure aesthetic standpoint, JHS has their thing that they do, right?
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It's very established, and you mean once you have a thing like that, you can't really deviate from it.
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I think this is the best execution aesthetically of their thing.
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Yeah, it's it's one of my favorite um graphics of theirs for sure.
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Um I would have been tempted to make those red flames have LEDs embedded in them because I always look to do that.
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But I think I mean, I think I don't know whether it was Daniel, I don't want to say his surname, it's like Nijek or something, Nijek, who was Daniel Danger.
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Daniel Danger, other people will know him as who's a brilliant artist.
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And I don't know whether he's done this, uh he does all of their graphics.
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He is definitely one of the industry.
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I think he does all their graphics.
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I think he's done some of their stuff.
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Yeah, I I don't really know, but if it is one of his uh kudos, it's a great piece of work.
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It's great, and I think the the choice of the MXR knobs with the red indicators.
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Uh everyone's called these MXR style knobs forever, so that's what I'm gonna call them.
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Uh they're fluted knobs, technically.
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Fluted, yeah.
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That doesn't sound as good.
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I don't want to say that.
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That sounds wrong.
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No, sounds like you did something bad.
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That's what they're called.
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I know.
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But that I think it uh it all pulls together really nicely on this one.
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I think so.
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It's a it's a nice design.
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Again, you know, I mean, putting two killer drives in a single pedal, who would do that, Bri?
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That's insanity.
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Uh Golden Jubilee, earbox, uh Hotwired, uh Paisley Delight.
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:11.479
I mean uh dual dual pedals might be the perfect pedal for someone that just can't make up their mind.
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You know?
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:12.679
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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I don't know.
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I mean there's advantages and disadvantages to dual pedals.
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One is I like controls.
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Um and Richard, as you know, if you try to put too many controls on a pedal, dual or not, it just uh gets confusing for folks, right?
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.719
It is worth noting uh that I think we've kind of gl glossed over this a little bit.
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The inputs and outputs are separate.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if they can be ran in series, but it looks to me like this.
00:25:47.959 --> 00:25:52.359
You can probably connect the middle one and oh yeah, you could jump around that way, yeah.
00:25:52.439 --> 00:25:52.839
Yeah, yeah.
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But you should, I mean, so the way we do it with ours now is two pairs.
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You can go into the in on the right pair and the out on the left pair, or you can do split them completely.
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Hopefully it works like that.
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What's that switch on the side do?
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Trying to switch on the side?
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I don't see.
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There's a little tiny switch on the side.
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Oh, it's a high cut.
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Got it.
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I see I found an angle where I could see it.
00:26:16.199 --> 00:26:28.839
There's a little internal switch on the side, kind of like is on the uh on the uh color box where that that little there's another one, there's a couple, there's one on the uh we've been playing with some of those actually, yeah, with some other designs.
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It's a high cut.
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I wasn't sure if it was an order, but yeah.
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:33.399
It's a great pedal.
00:26:33.719 --> 00:26:41.479
And I think like if you're starting out in boutique pedal land, something like this is a great place to start.
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:47.799
Like, like the gearbox has been one of our best sellers because it is just such a great all-round pedal.
00:26:47.879 --> 00:26:52.359
Like both sides are great, both sides together are great, throwing you know all the other functionality.
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.799
I think this is you know a similar sort of class for JHS.
00:26:55.879 --> 00:27:01.079
And if you are starting afresh, I would buy one of these rather than the separate pedals initially.
00:27:01.239 --> 00:27:02.519
That's how I'm wired, though.
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:03.479
I like to kind of combine.
00:27:03.719 --> 00:27:05.079
I was looking at this wrong, guys.
00:27:05.239 --> 00:27:09.399
So there are indeed four jacks, but it's like this is how they have them listed.
00:27:09.639 --> 00:27:11.399
They got the main input, output.
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Use the far right input and the far left output when using the wander as a standard two-in-one pedal.
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:17.639
So they are stacked together.
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:17.959
Yeah.
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.719
And then individual effects jacks.
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:25.879
The individual input and output jacks allow you to separate the two effects for use with an effects loop switcher or other external router.
00:27:26.199 --> 00:27:26.599
That's the same way.
00:27:27.159 --> 00:27:27.799
Same as how we do it.
00:27:27.879 --> 00:27:28.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:28.679 --> 00:27:29.559
That's the best way of doing it.
00:27:29.639 --> 00:27:33.000
It gives you and and you can stick a pedal in the loop if you want.
00:27:33.159 --> 00:27:35.959
You know, if you want to stick something in between the two, you can.
00:27:36.199 --> 00:27:39.000
So it's kind of makes more sense than what I was thinking.
00:27:39.719 --> 00:27:41.799
Everything is like, maybe you just like to use a jumper cable.
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.079
Maybe you have like a jumper cable, like a jumper coily cable that you just want the tone from.
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:47.719
Oh, yeah.
00:27:48.199 --> 00:27:50.839
You know, because that that would improve it immensely.
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:51.879
Longer the better.
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.599
Totally.
00:27:52.679 --> 00:27:53.000
Yes.
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Coilier the better.
00:27:55.479 --> 00:27:56.119
Interesting.
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.079
I like coil your coily cable even better.
00:27:59.479 --> 00:28:02.279
Is a square coil better than a circular coil, though?
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.039
Like, do you get a more crunchy signal if it's a square coil?
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.279
What if it's a Tesla coil?
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:09.639
Hmm.
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:10.359
Okay.
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:12.679
What if it's a lacuna coil?
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:13.000
Oh.
00:28:13.399 --> 00:28:13.879
I don't know.
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.239
There's a kind of metal uh reference.
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:17.719
Anyhow.
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.199
I got I understood that reference.
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.959
Great looking pedal, gonna sound great, gonna sell out quickly.
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.239
Um, nice work, uh JHS.
00:28:27.399 --> 00:28:34.119
Whilst on the subject of other pedal manufacturers that don't suck, I was watching Keeley do a little live video earlier.
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Some playing, some pedals.
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I like sometimes that's just the right thing to tune into.
00:28:39.879 --> 00:28:41.079
So I enjoyed that, Robert.
00:28:41.159 --> 00:28:41.559
Thank you.
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:44.279
What was he playing?
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.319
That's I don't know.
00:28:45.479 --> 00:28:45.959
Oh, okay.
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:47.159
It's music.
00:28:47.639 --> 00:28:50.519
Oh, dude, dude, this is really exciting, right?
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:59.000
I found a new band of new musicians making non-cover music that doesn't suck that I love.
00:28:59.479 --> 00:29:03.639
Uh, and I found it via the Jules Holland TV program the other day, but that doesn't matter.
00:29:03.959 --> 00:29:06.439
They're called Mary in the Junkyard.
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.919
And I think Blake, you will love them.
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:16.119
I'm pretty sure Brian will hate them, but I might be wrong.
00:29:16.439 --> 00:29:25.719
It's kind of breathy female vocals, but really nice guitar arpeggios through insane pedal boards.
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.079
Like I've seen their pedal boards and they're running like 20 pedals each.
00:29:29.239 --> 00:29:38.839
There's two guitar players, and the way she plays, she plays like, oh, I forget the guitar, it's not a 335, might be an old Gretsch that she got.
00:29:39.079 --> 00:30:00.919
But she basically learned to play like uh her dad taught her finger picking style, so she's playing kind of like really interesting arpeggiated riffs, all completely finger picking, which for a younger musician I would say is rare these days, like they're nearly always doing the chugs, less of the genteel stuff, and the combination is magical.
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:08.519
Like, it's the first time I've heard an album for about three years of new music where I've gone, I like this band.
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.359
And you know what's a nice feeling?
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:19.079
Like going to iTunes or Spotify and adding their only album to your collection and thinking, I'm here at the start of this journey.
00:30:19.239 --> 00:30:22.439
I don't have to download four albums before I understand this band.
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.159
So yeah, Mary in the junkyard.
00:30:25.239 --> 00:30:26.279
Highly recommended.
00:30:26.439 --> 00:30:30.919
Currently touring the US, I think, with um in the junkyard or and the junkyard.
00:30:31.159 --> 00:30:32.679
Mary in the junkyard.
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.039
Inside of the junkyard.
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.879
Mary in the junkyard.
00:30:36.199 --> 00:30:40.359
If you say Mary inside the junkyard, people will Google a different thing.
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.919
In in, yes.
00:30:43.239 --> 00:30:45.479
So yeah, there's a music recommendation for you.
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:46.519
So how about that?
00:30:46.679 --> 00:30:51.559
You sent that over, and I was like, oh, cool, I'll listen to this, and and I didn't.
00:30:51.639 --> 00:30:52.359
So now I will.
00:30:52.919 --> 00:30:53.399
Tiny thing.
00:30:53.479 --> 00:30:53.639
Exactly.
00:30:53.879 --> 00:30:54.279
New toy.
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:55.639
Yeah, it's like lightsaber.
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:56.839
Oh, cheeseburger.
00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:59.479
Oh, I'd like a cheeseburger right now.
00:30:59.719 --> 00:31:00.519
Yeah, who wouldn't?
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:00.919
You know?
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:05.000
Would really love a cheeseburger right now.
00:31:05.159 --> 00:31:07.559
So yeah, me too, but good.
00:31:07.639 --> 00:31:09.479
What else we got going on, chaps?
00:31:09.959 --> 00:31:16.439
Well, uh you may have noticed, uh, listeners, that um the best part of the show wasn't on last week.
00:31:16.679 --> 00:31:19.000
Uh or the worst.
00:31:19.159 --> 00:31:19.959
Depends on your viewpoint.
00:31:20.199 --> 00:31:20.519
I mean, yeah.
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:21.799
Were you gone last week?
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:23.959
No, it was just me and you, Brian.
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:30.039
Um, and it was hilarious because we got 35 minutes in and went, oh, we should probably explain why you haven't heard from Blake.
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.119
By the way, yeah, Blake's not here.
00:31:32.199 --> 00:31:33.479
That's why you haven't heard him yet.
00:31:33.639 --> 00:31:33.719
Yeah.
00:31:33.879 --> 00:31:35.079
I was just I was just being quiet.
00:31:35.159 --> 00:31:36.359
I was being respectful.
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:37.159
Yeah.
00:31:37.639 --> 00:31:39.159
Giving you guys your space.
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.359
That's all.
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.879
Uh I went up to Seattle for a little uh little trip.
00:31:45.959 --> 00:31:47.639
Um and how's Attle doing?
00:31:47.719 --> 00:31:48.359
Is he okay?
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.039
Attle's doing all right, you know.
00:31:50.679 --> 00:31:51.879
Yeah, he's a bit addled.
00:31:52.199 --> 00:31:54.679
Okay, you know, I could see it.
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:55.079
Yeah.
00:31:55.239 --> 00:31:56.519
Um, it was great.
00:31:56.679 --> 00:31:57.559
We had a good time.
00:31:57.639 --> 00:31:59.159
It was uh exhausting.
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:07.479
Basically, we were there visiting all the retailers, all the independent retailers in the region, some of which we are in, some of which we are not.
00:32:07.639 --> 00:32:15.559
Um, and I decided this will be a good learning experience for my son to see some of what his dad does.
00:32:15.879 --> 00:32:18.599
So you were like, Vincent, take the wheel.
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:19.799
I'm drinking a beer.
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:20.439
That's right.
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.159
So I was like, listen, kid, this is what it's like on the road.
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:26.759
Get in front.
00:32:26.919 --> 00:32:28.599
No, just climb up while we're driving.
00:32:28.679 --> 00:32:29.479
We'll switch seats.
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:30.839
We don't want to lose time.
00:32:30.919 --> 00:32:32.599
We don't want to switch seats on the fly.
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:33.639
Let's go.
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:35.799
We laugh, but it probably is true.
00:32:35.879 --> 00:32:37.239
No, it's not true.
00:32:38.199 --> 00:32:40.359
So uh we had a good time, you know.
00:32:40.439 --> 00:32:48.839
He was very patient, um, but he actually really enjoyed uh several of the stores, particularly Emerald City guitars.
00:32:49.159 --> 00:32:51.000
Are you guys familiar with Emerald City guitars?
00:32:51.159 --> 00:32:51.639
Yes, yeah.
00:32:51.879 --> 00:32:56.279
I mean, I've never been there, but I'm familiar with the the dealership, yes.
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:10.839
Yes, so yeah, one of the uh I I guess I would say probably one of the go-to places in the US for high-end vintage guitars, like Trevor and company like source bursts on a regular basis.
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.079
You know, they they travel all over the globe getting these things and getting the stories.
00:33:15.239 --> 00:33:19.159
Trevor's really into the stories behind these instruments, which is really cool.
00:33:19.399 --> 00:33:33.959
And uh Vincent had a great time at several of the the stores because I would introduce him as Vincent of the Benson Vincent fame, and then they were like, oh no way! I we didn't know bless.
00:33:34.199 --> 00:33:35.879
Yeah, he quite liked that a lot.
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:42.519
Uh, he took a couple pictures with people, and um in Emerald City, we were looking at all kinds of stuff.
00:33:42.679 --> 00:33:44.279
I mean, I don't even know where to begin.
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:55.079
I I got to play an SG that was owned by Leslie West of Mountain, um, and immediately forgot how to play guitar while holding it, because that's how that works.
00:33:55.239 --> 00:33:57.559
Um, but that was crazy.
00:33:57.719 --> 00:34:06.679
Uh Vincent Trevor pulls out of this case this, I believe, 1960 original Shoreline Gold strat and just hands it to him.
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:14.440
And I'm like, son, son, please don't don't drop the$190,000 Stratocaster.
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.840
Please hold on to it so tightly.
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:24.199
Yeah, oh over his shoulder there was like a little devil that looked a little bit like me going, drop it, break it.
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:25.800
Your dad's gotta pay for it.
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:27.639
His insurance won't cover it.
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:28.679
Do it now.
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
That's that's what it felt like.
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:37.000
No, he was good, he was responsible, and that was his favorite guitar of the trip was the Shoreline Gold Stratocaster.
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.920
Um, but Trevor took us up into the secret room.
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.960
Oh, I now I I I'm already jealous.
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.480
We haven't even started, and I'm already jealous.
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.239
Dude, I I never thought this would happen.
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.199
So this has happened once in the Gibson vault, and I thought that was the end for me.
00:34:54.279 --> 00:34:55.480
That'll never happen again.
00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:02.920
Trevor busts out a 58 Karina V and is like, check this out.
00:35:03.319 --> 00:35:05.960
And it's already sold, so I couldn't buy it.
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.880
You know, that's the only reason I didn't buy it, right?
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:08.759
Oh, yeah, sure.
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:09.639
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.920
Um, and I couldn't believe I was holding another one.
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.039
That was crazy.
00:35:14.279 --> 00:35:18.519
There was a, I believe the year, don't I don't shoot me if I got this wrong.
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:34.119
I think there's a video on this guitar, but there's there's a 58 strat that was one of the original anodized gold pit guard versions that a lot of people were claiming was not the real deal.
00:35:34.359 --> 00:35:42.599
So they had it scientifically tested by um, I believe it's the company's called like vintage.
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:43.719
Oh, I'm trying to remember.
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:51.319
There is a company that specializes in like scanning and analyzing vintage guitars mostly, but other things too, to determine their authenticity.
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.359
So they had them do it and verified it.
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.199
And it's it's crazy.
00:35:56.279 --> 00:35:57.960
It's like probably one of one.
00:35:58.599 --> 00:35:59.000
Wow.
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.799
And it was so clean, it hadn't hardly been played.
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.799
It was one of those things where somebody bought it, wasn't really a guitar player.
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:12.279
They bought it probably because they thought it was cool, and they stuck it in the corner forever, and then somebody else bought it from them in the 70s.
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.839
They didn't really think much of it, they didn't really think that it was anything all that special.
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:18.599
It's just a Stratocaster to them.
00:36:18.759 --> 00:36:27.880
They stick it in the corner as well, until 50 plus years later, when it comes to life, and people start paying attention to this thing.
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.199
It's probably one of the rarest guitars in the world.
00:36:30.359 --> 00:36:31.319
It was crazy.
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:32.199
Yeah.
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.920
And then and then on and then there was a burst there too.
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.119
Which is why you want to change the pickups on that thing, right?
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.000
Get some lovely modern wiring.
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:41.880
That's right.
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:42.920
Get put some EMGs in it.
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:44.839
Yeah, they were planning on putting some EMGs in it.
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:45.239
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.440
And we're gonna paint it black.
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:47.719
And a bee better.
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:48.440
Yeah.
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:49.319
Yeah.
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.519
I think that was the plan, yeah, before they ship it off.
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:53.799
But it was wild.
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:55.960
It was, I can't even remember everything I seen.
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.239
I seen in that store.
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.880
Um, oh, did you guys know?
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.559
I didn't know this because I'm not familiar with the history of BC Rich.
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:08.759
BC Rich got their start making high-end acoustic guitars.
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.480
I think they made mandolins as well at one point.
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:19.799
I that sounds right once I did a little googling, but they had a basically a really fancy D18-ish clone there.
00:37:20.279 --> 00:37:21.319
It was amazing.
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:21.880
Really?
00:37:22.279 --> 00:37:23.719
I was like, this is a BC Rich.
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:25.400
And Trevor told me the story.
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:37.319
Like, this is how they started, was making Spanish guitars and high-end Martin-ish clones and all this stuff before they got into pointy guitar land in the 80s, which was fascinating.
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:37.880
Yeah.
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.319
Uh Michael Hampton, uh, the guitarist from Funkadelic, plays uh a BC Rich.
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.199
Is it uh is it the Warbird?
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.519
Uh that sounds right.
00:37:48.759 --> 00:37:51.000
Let me just double check that on.
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.159
No, it's another one.
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.239
But the BC Rich Warbird is one.
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.880
Um, uh, and I I was checking it out the other day.
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.480
I was like, actually, you know what?
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:10.759
Maybe we all automatically kind of look at BC Rich as a little bit of a not I wouldn't say a joke brand, but you know, it's not particularly yeah, a novelty brand.
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:12.359
To me, it seems very 80s.
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:18.279
Like I think like Lita Ford or CC Deville, like I think of that kind of stuff whenever I think of BC Rich.
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.559
Yeah, you don't think of a D18.
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:22.519
Yeah.
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.839
But that's how they got started.
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:30.039
Um apparently it's a 10-string uh BC Rich that he's playing.
00:38:30.359 --> 00:38:34.599
So I I'm already not interested because nobody should be playing a 10-string guitar.
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:36.519
You only got five smart enough.
00:38:36.839 --> 00:38:38.039
He only have five fingers.
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.960
So the six string makes it even harder.
00:38:40.279 --> 00:38:44.839
It's the BC Rich perfect ten, so it has tuners at the bottom and at the top.
00:38:45.319 --> 00:38:45.480
What?
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:46.679
Yeah.
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.359
Look up BC Rich because it's got 10 strings on it.
00:38:50.759 --> 00:38:51.480
What are you gonna do?
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.960
Have a headstock that weighs four tons.
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:54.279
Yes.
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.759
No, you're gonna you're gonna well, you probably would.
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:02.359
Yeah, it's an amazing perfect case for the Gibson automatic tuners.
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:04.359
The Gibson AI tuners.
00:39:05.319 --> 00:39:08.920
Oh, don't don't mention AI.
00:39:09.319 --> 00:39:14.839
I mentioned it once, I thought I got away with it, but uh yes, you crazy kids.
00:39:15.319 --> 00:39:16.839
But yeah, it was it was a great trip.
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:18.679
Thunder Road was amazing as well.
00:39:18.839 --> 00:39:23.000
Um, probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing stores I've ever been in.
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:32.839
I don't know whether it's the algorithm or that you have become obsessed, but all I see on my feed is you at Thunder Road guitars at the moment.
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.440
Is oh you at Thunder Road guitars and and you in your panties.
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:41.239
Uh sorry, that's a different whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy then.
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:47.799
But you do seem to have done some great content for the Thunder Road uh shop, and I love it.
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:48.279
And you know what?
00:39:48.359 --> 00:39:49.799
That's a great Garth Brooks song, too.
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:51.960
It is Thunder Road Thunder Road, yeah.
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.639
Yeah, that's that's what it sounds like when a toddler's singing it.
00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:00.599
The Thunder Road and the lightning strikes.
00:40:01.319 --> 00:40:02.039
I know that song.
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.359
There's a song I know that you guys know.
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:04.679
Wow.
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:05.480
There you go.
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:06.039
Wow.
00:40:06.279 --> 00:40:10.920
Yeah, it's uh I have been doing a fair bit of stuff with I've gotten uh tighter with Will.
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:18.279
I mean, I've known him for years, but been doing more stuff with him uh at the Portland location, but I had not visited the new Seattle location yet.
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:23.000
And remind me where you got that brilliant deal on the uh on the Mustang from.
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:24.440
From Thunder Road Seattle.
00:40:24.839 --> 00:40:26.679
Oh, I see how that works, man.
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.119
All right, I'm gonna be uh I'm gonna be going to my local guitar shop.
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:31.559
They've just taken a shipment.
00:40:31.799 --> 00:40:35.880
I reckon I reckon I can talk them into giving me that squire baritone.
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.920
I think that's on on them for sure.
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.239
Yeah, I think they can handle that for you.
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.559
Well, yeah, that was where I was, everybody.
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.559
It was uh it was a great time.
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.960
I talked to a lot of cool local dealers that weren't yeah, Mike and Mike's guitar bar.
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:51.400
I mean, that was incredible too.
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.400
Uh he's gonna come on the pod uh the tone mob podcast here pretty soon.
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.799
But I definitely would say follow all of those stores on the internet.
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:09.480
Not only are they incredible stores, but they also put out a lot of content that is like if you're a guitar nerd, and I don't know why you would be listening to this podcast if you weren't.
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.159
Uh maybe you're a UFO nerd or like really lame British Innuendo-based hot comedy.
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:16.440
That is also possible.
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:17.480
Quote unquotes.
00:41:17.799 --> 00:41:18.199
Possible.
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:22.359
If you love guitar content, you should go follow all those stores.
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:23.400
They do a really good job.
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:29.799
Here's the thing: I'm constantly amazed at how many independent guitar stores there are in the states.
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:36.039
And then I remember basically every single one of your states is like my entire country doubled.
00:41:36.279 --> 00:41:39.639
So no wonder they've got so many great shops, but it's awesome.
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:46.759
There's about rough it's hard to say because they come and go, but there's roughly around 2,000 indie stores in the states.
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:47.400
Wow.
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:47.880
Yeah.
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.799
I doubt there's uh I doubt there's 200 stores in the UK.
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.079
In fact, what's crazy though?
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.639
Be surprised if there were 20 independent stores in the UK.
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.880
They're they're smaller and they're a lot different, but there's almost that many stores in Japan.
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.920
Yeah, but Japan's next level.
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:03.319
Yeah.
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:05.639
Japan's, yeah, that is next level.
00:42:05.799 --> 00:42:16.359
My friend who lives in Australia, um, he and his whole sort of family have just gone to Japan for a holiday, and he posted a picture of him doing the go-kort cart tour around Tokyo.
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:16.759
Oh, yeah.
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.039
And I'm like, if ever I was jealous, it was now.
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:21.639
Uh right now.
00:42:21.799 --> 00:42:25.880
And also, he he quite enjoys the odd beer.
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:27.639
I know that they're all drunk.
00:42:27.799 --> 00:42:29.400
I know that they're doing that.
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:34.839
Having had a skin full of Japanese lager, that would be a really amazing.
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:36.599
Uh, don't drink and drive, kids.
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:37.719
It's not clever.
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:38.920
Just saying.
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:44.519
Unless it's a go-kart that can only go five miles an hour and is being controlled by somebody else, but don't drink and drive.
00:42:46.279 --> 00:42:46.920
Got that one out.
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.079
That's that's just riding, which is great.
00:42:49.319 --> 00:42:52.759
You can you can ride hammered if you want, just don't be in control.
00:42:53.159 --> 00:43:04.440
We actually took the opportunity of you not being here to discuss Brian's latest project, which was uh Pedal Spice, his his new uh software project, which is really, really interesting.
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:09.719
But he's he's and he he won't say this because he's modest, but he's taking it to the next level now.
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:17.960
Because am I right in thinking, Bri, I could upload a schematic I had drawn and it would turn it into a real schematic.
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:23.239
So I'm finalizing it, you know, working out the bugs.
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.400
It's 95% ready.
00:43:25.799 --> 00:43:33.319
But yes, you'll be able to even write out a schematic, like hand draw it and upload it, and it works as a spice file.
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:41.079
And from there, you can you'll be able to export it into LC Spice if you want, or you know key CAD and make a PCB.
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.239
I'm well and I've never seen any other software do this before.
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.559
No, I'm always putting stuff into Key CAD.
00:43:48.279 --> 00:43:48.599
Yeah.
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.039
Always I can't.
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.519
It's all about the CAD, and you need the key for it.
00:43:52.759 --> 00:43:59.480
You got the key, and I man, I when I put spice in it, you know, the spice must flow.
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:02.279
So here's the thing.
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:14.119
So what you what you can do is let's say you take an entire folder of schematics, and they're all hand-drawn that maybe they're from 30 years ago, and you're like, I wish I had a modern version of this.
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:15.880
It allows you to do that.
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:30.839
Which I'm literally going to do the minute it's ready because I have an older schematic, a hand drawn schematic for a classic pedal, and I did put it through AOI and say, give me a modern schematic and a breadboard diagram for this, but it wasn't accurate, so I can't wait to see.
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:31.960
It's not accurate that way.
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:32.359
No.
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.359
You have to do you have to use spice to do it.
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:41.559
I also you have to do some other things like looking at lines and some other Clever tricks, but yeah.
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:56.759
I can't wait to be able to use it to send you rude messages because I'm going to lay out all of my components to say words like sweaty bollocks and then send it to you and be like, check out my new schematic bride.
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:58.519
You know what?
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.400
Actually, I can I could put a capacitor there.
00:45:01.799 --> 00:45:04.759
I could embed hidden text messages in these files.
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:05.639
Just for fun.
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:06.519
Yeah, you should.
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:07.719
100% should.
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.119
Just for certain users like Richard Oliver.
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.480
Like everything you send has hidden hidden text underneath it.
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:13.880
Yeah.
00:45:14.279 --> 00:45:19.159
Like, hey, hey, what's the tax service over there for you guys?
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:20.199
It's IRS here.
00:45:20.279 --> 00:45:23.319
Whatever it is for you guys, I don't like to pay my taxes.
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:24.119
You know?
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.039
Inland revenue.
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:27.400
Yeah, same sort of thing.
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:35.880
Uh but what you should do is make it so that when certain people log in, all the buttons move away from their mouse pointers.
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:47.799
So that used to be that used to be an old like virus trick where you'd load software on someone's computer, and every time they went to like shut the computer down, the the start button would move across the screen.
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:49.880
Oh, that's fantastic.
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:51.639
That's what you need to do, Bri.
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:52.199
Yeah.
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.000
Why did you put that under the world again, Richard?
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.000
Now that now, like Anonymous is gonna put that on all of our computers.
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:03.480
Um, yeah, I mean, I remember the first computer virus.
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:04.679
Happy, happy days.
00:46:04.759 --> 00:46:06.839
I didn't write it, but I remember trying to spread it.
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.400
Um you remember the first computer virus?
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:10.759
You remember trying to spread it?
00:46:10.839 --> 00:46:11.559
What is wrong with it?
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.079
Yeah, what are you talking about?
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:14.759
I think this is something illegal, actually.
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:15.880
Let's dig into this.
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:27.719
I mean, the the first computer virus on the Commodore Amiga, I believe, was called the SCA virus, and I I think it is probably not far off one of the first ever viruses, ever.
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:28.440
Really?
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:29.400
So it's your fault.
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:29.960
There we go.
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.319
Oh, I'm I'm so here, right?
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:42.599
The SCA virus is the first computer virus created for the Amiga and one of the first to create public notoriety.
00:46:42.759 --> 00:46:45.000
I got really excited there, and then I read for the Amiga.
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.400
I was like, damn, I thought it was the first virus for anything.
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.839
But yeah, the Swiss cracking association virus.
00:46:51.799 --> 00:46:52.519
Interesting.
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:53.799
Yeah, it would hardly be.
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:03.960
Is that Scotland Yard at your door?
00:47:04.359 --> 00:47:05.799
I I doubt it very much.
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.679
We don't we don't have any police officers left in this country.
00:47:08.759 --> 00:47:12.119
They they've all resigned because we don't pay them any money.
00:47:12.279 --> 00:47:14.039
Let's not get political again.
00:47:14.279 --> 00:47:17.079
Um we missed you last week, though.
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.159
Uh I missed you guys.
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.839
I felt like I was missing a key part of my week.
00:47:23.799 --> 00:47:24.440
A key category.
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:25.880
I can understand missing us.
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:26.679
I I get it.
00:47:26.759 --> 00:47:27.400
I I get it.
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:28.440
Yeah, that makes sense.
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:37.559
The other thing, because again, Brian won't mention this, but Brian has released a like video of him breaking down how a tube screamer works in 60 seconds.
00:47:37.799 --> 00:47:40.359
And Brian I'm gonna start doing this every day.
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:41.480
Every day?
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:42.599
Oh well every day.
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:48.599
Scrub that bit from the record, Brian, because you'll get bored after seven days, and then it'll be every week, and then it'll be every month.
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:49.239
And no.
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:51.239
No, no, that's the that's the plan.
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.559
60 seconds, 60 second circuit discussion.
00:47:55.799 --> 00:47:59.880
I love it though, because it what I love about it, it takes all the fluff away.
00:47:59.960 --> 00:48:09.480
So it's like we're not gonna bother looking at the input and output buffers, we're not gonna bother looking at the tone or volume controls, we're just gonna look at what gives you the gurr sound.
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.559
And you go through depending on what you're talking about, yeah.
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.319
Yeah, well today's is about the tone control.
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.079
Yeah, it's a tube screamer, so it's a non-inverting op amp.
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.159
Uh and the two screamer, yes, both of them.
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.400
Yeah, so and yeah, really nice.
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.719
So you're gonna go through all the circuits at some point.
00:48:23.799 --> 00:48:27.639
You're gonna be like, all right, now we're breaking down the nest home thermostat.
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:28.920
It connects to Wi-Fi.
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.039
Don't even mock it.
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:33.480
I need I have problems.
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.679
Uh but no, this is my refrigerator.
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.319
Yeah, it's on Brian's social media stuff.
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.799
You'll find it on his home page, it's his personal like public site.
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:50.679
It's on the Wampler YouTube, it's on the um the DIY guitar pedal, TikTok.
00:48:50.759 --> 00:48:51.880
That's a brand new one for you.
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:52.440
Ooh.
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:57.400
And it's on the business Brian Wampler Facebook page.
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:58.039
Mm-hmm.
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.359
So Wampler Pedals shared it.
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:00.759
Yeah.
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.480
Uh no, Wampler Pedals liked it.
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.639
We haven't shared it yet because we don't like it.
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.239
Thanks for nothing, Richard.
00:49:08.279 --> 00:49:11.559
To be fair, I I I did all my social media posting yesterday.
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.000
I should do some more today or tomorrow.
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.960
Honestly, I'm not just blowing smoke up.
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:19.880
The boss is a backside.
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.239
I found it, and I think you'd like it here as well, Blake.
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.799
I found it really interesting because I only have like a 60-second attention span for people talking on the internet.
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.639
Like, if you don't draw me in in the first minute, I'm done.
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:35.319
And this is all done in a minute.
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.159
It's like, yep, everything you need to know.
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.039
And the whole goal, like everything, is to explain it to a musician, not to an engineer.
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:48.199
So I'm like, I'm there's never gonna be a point where I say, All right, let's look at the math behind this and why it works this way.
00:49:48.279 --> 00:49:49.159
It's never that.
00:49:49.319 --> 00:49:53.559
It's this capacitor gives you more base, this one gives you more gain.
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.400
Like what it does on the screen.
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.400
Yeah, I really enjoyed when you kind of showed what happens.
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:07.880
So it was changing a resistor and changing a capacitor and and how they affect the relate to each other, the base roll-off and the volume.
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:33.799
And like just seeing it, and and like I said, I immediately like sent you a message like this is brilliant, Bri, because you know, we were talking about some ideas yesterday, and and this didn't come out of what we discussed, but I kind of feel like we were on the edge of something, and you just had that brainwave, and I was like, this is really, really good, because I've never seen that explained with like an active kind of diagram almost.
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:44.119
So literally, you can see Bri change the values, and then you see how it affects the roll-off of the bass and the volume and the gain, and it's like, oh my god, that makes so much sense now.
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:50.119
So I think this is a real service for for anyone interested in pedals, as well as obviously anyone interested in making pedals.
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:51.400
So good work, Bri.
00:50:51.799 --> 00:50:52.759
Well, thanks, man.
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:53.880
I'm glad you like it.
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.920
Oh, look, a little round of applause from Blake there with his nice Russian watch on there.
00:51:00.759 --> 00:51:02.519
It is a Russian watch, isn't it?
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:03.799
Not the not this one, no.
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:04.359
Why?
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:05.719
Is it run fast or something?
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:10.199
Uh what else we got?
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:12.199
That's a terrible joke, right?
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:14.279
It's such a terrible joke.
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:15.000
No, I liked it.
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:23.159
See, my my son was my son was actually born in Russia, so I like to ask him if he uh I like to ask let me try this with English again.
00:51:23.319 --> 00:51:26.519
I like to ask him where he's rushing off to.
00:51:26.839 --> 00:51:28.759
And he thinks that's a dumb joke as well.
00:51:28.839 --> 00:51:29.159
Yeah.
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:30.519
And he is right.
00:51:30.759 --> 00:51:38.279
We were trying to decide, like, we're going on the trip at the end of the month, and then we're like, okay, we gotta save up the K the coin.
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.920
When when's our next where's our next destination?
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:42.759
We want to we, you know, we like to go places.
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.799
We went on to go back to Europe for a while, like, where do we want to go?
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:54.199
And so we were letting the kids involved in this conversation, and Rocky's immediate suggestion was Russia, let's go to Russia.
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.159
Yeah, might want to give that a few years.
00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:58.279
Maybe not right now.
00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:59.799
Yeah, not let's not do it right now.
00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:00.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:03.880
Should we go to Russia, Iran, and Afghanistan?
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.079
Then Vincent thought it was really funny.
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.480
He whispered in his ear, and then Rocky came running out.
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.319
He's like, I want to go to Iran! Like, yeah, uh, probably not gonna do that right now.
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.359
Yeah, uh, I hope the world heals soon, but that's another topic.
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:19.319
Oh man, it's another topic.
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.119
We need it, but that's yeah, yeah, that's another topic.
00:52:22.759 --> 00:52:25.639
More music, less fighting.
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:27.480
Absolutely, yeah.
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:28.279
There we go.
00:52:28.359 --> 00:52:31.559
So said no one in any gear group on Facebook ever.
00:52:33.799 --> 00:52:38.199
Is this a safe place to discuss how much we hate Brian Wompler?
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.319
Yes, let's discuss that.
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:42.759
It's perfect.
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.239
Uh, a couple of other quickies.
00:52:45.319 --> 00:52:54.599
Um Ernie Border just put out uh a new Albert Lee model, uh Music Man Albert Lee model, and they're really nice colours.
00:52:54.759 --> 00:53:01.079
I gotta say, this is a guitar that when I first saw a photo of, I was like, I'm never gonna like this guitar.
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.759
When you see Albert Lee playing it, and I've seen a couple of other people play it.
00:53:04.839 --> 00:53:07.559
I this is a guitar I think I need in my Arsenal.
00:53:07.799 --> 00:53:08.679
Have you played one?
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.039
I have not yet played one.
00:53:10.279 --> 00:53:11.159
They're really cool.
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:12.279
They're very comfortable.
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:13.960
They're a little funkier than some people.
00:53:14.279 --> 00:53:16.759
Like that if they they're a really cool guitar.
00:53:16.839 --> 00:53:17.159
I like them.
00:53:17.319 --> 00:53:18.599
I've never played it.
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:19.239
Okay.
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:20.519
This is interesting.
00:53:20.759 --> 00:53:25.079
Breaking news former gang boss Dwayne Kefy D.
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:31.400
Davis has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for orchestrating the murder of Tupac Shakur.
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:32.759
Isn't that Kify D?
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:33.319
Really?
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:34.039
Oh, maybe.
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:34.519
All right.
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.119
I just, yeah, but yeah.
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:39.159
Uh 40 years it's taken to resolve this case.
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:40.679
Well, that's you know insane.
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:48.920
And it's I don't know, it's it's not funny because it's murder, but it's hilarious to me how he finally got how this finally happened.
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:51.480
It's because he wouldn't shut up about it.
00:53:51.799 --> 00:53:52.039
Yeah.
00:53:52.359 --> 00:53:55.880
He was going on podcast, and yeah, he was going on podcast and be like, this is how we did it.
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:56.839
Burber du.
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.199
Like really?
00:53:58.599 --> 00:53:59.159
Yeah.
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:21.719
Because he like mistake from my understanding of it, is he the police really wanted to solve the case, and so there are certain clauses in certain places where you can basically be immune from can you know, if like you can confess to something, just in the interest of like solving the case, but it's only for a set amount of time under a set of circumstances.
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:29.000
So like he did this interview with some authority figure, I believe it was police officers, and he's like, Yeah, yeah, this is how we did it.
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:36.519
And then he like falsely assumed that gave him immunity forever and just started talking about it and put it in books and all this stuff.
00:54:36.759 --> 00:54:44.440
Yeah, it's almost like the police officer came up to him and went, Man, whoever killed Tupac was an amazing criminal.
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.400
If only we knew such an amazing criminal.
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.079
It's me, the smartest man that's ever existed.
00:54:51.319 --> 00:54:52.440
I'm the smart.
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:59.239
So yeah, but yeah, that's you know, that is one of the biggest kind of crimes in the music.
00:54:59.799 --> 00:55:00.920
Music history, yeah.
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:01.880
I think so, right?
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.799
So interesting.
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.440
Um, no, I need to uh going back to the music man.
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:07.799
I definitely need to try one.
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:09.719
Um, what else do we?
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:11.559
Oh, the final one for this week.
00:55:11.799 --> 00:55:17.159
Beringer have just released a miniature version of their clon centaur.
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.359
Looks a little bit tumness-y, just gonna say.
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:26.119
I mean, if you're making a tumna uh a uh clon clone, you're gonna make a gold or silver generally.
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:27.559
Yeah, so you got that.
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.679
And I mean at this point, how many clon clones are there?
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:33.799
There's so many.
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:34.920
Yeah, so many points.
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.000
Yeah, so probably what are you gonna do different?
00:55:37.799 --> 00:55:39.159
We're gonna make it cheaper, okay.
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.719
What they've done differently is they've put little sticky out bits on uh on the enclosure.
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:51.799
Like the enclosure is like a mini version of the clon enclosure, so it has like little sticky out bits top and bottom.
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:53.000
I'm not sure I like that.
00:55:53.319 --> 00:55:55.159
So you got a new enclosure, cool man.
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:56.279
Yeah, great.
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:57.000
Well done.
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.159
Yeah, that's uh that's how I feel about it.
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.039
I didn't see this this 50s wiring um oh yeah thing.
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:09.480
I do want to talk about it briefly, just because of your love of guitar.
00:56:09.799 --> 00:56:11.880
So Sean Sean will appreciate this very much.
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:13.400
He's educated me on this.
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:19.880
So this article is basically postulating that 50s wiring is like a great mod you can do to your guitar.
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:32.279
And for some people it is, but I just want to say from the Gun Street customer service in box side, and Sean, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I've heard you talk about this several times, so I don't think I am.
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:38.920
A lot of people think they want 50s wiring in their guitars because it sounds like a good idea.
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:40.839
Like, well, yeah, that's how they did it back in the day.
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.440
We want 50s style wiring.
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:48.759
What it turns out is most people do not want 50s wiring in their guitars, they just think they do.
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.319
So I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it.
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.639
I'm not saying that this is a bad article.
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.759
Well, so most people don't actually like it.
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Why is that though?
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Are you talking about tonality or are you talking about something else?
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F a little bit of tone, it's uh it's a lot of functionality.
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Like it does some weird stuff when you start rolling back the volume and the tone knobs and messing with things that like you don't that there's a reason they changed it, right?
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It it isn't very linear, it's kind of like it's it's a weird setup.
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It's it sounds good on paper, but it's not really for most people.
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And it could be a factor of like that's just what people got used to, so now 50s feels weird to them.
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There could be a lot of reasons why.
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Some people love it, and that's that's not to say that it's bad.
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We obviously like offer kits for that, but just speaking from experience, just because it's older doesn't mean that it's better.
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I mean, I would say the same thing applies to guitar pedals as well.
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I mean, there's some old stuff that we did that I ended up, you know, would completely change or have changed.
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And um, when asked about it, I'm like, yeah, that there was problems doing it that way.
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We changed that for a reason, you know.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Euphoria being one of them.
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I started out completely not completely different, but quite a bit different.
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And um yeah, it's it's much more improved now.
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There we go.
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So that's all that to say is like just if you're questioning about it, shoot Sean an email.
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He'll get he'll get you on the straight and narrow path of whatever is gonna most likely be best for you.
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I'll tell you what does improve with age immensely, though.
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Um and that's our executive producers.
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Oh they just keep getting better and better every day, don't they?
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Like a fine wine.
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Perhaps, Blake, you would like to read from this wine list of wonderful people.
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Man, these people are the cream of the crop.
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Bill Bays, thank you to Bill Bays.
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Andrew Atkins, David Tyndall, Dave Tromp, pedals on his way, Dave.
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Eric Wilson, V Dar Frostad, Michael Freer of the aforementioned Sean Orbo of Gun Street Wiring, Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks.
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Oh, yeah, I should say the last episode I was on when we were talking about the dummy coil, Sean texted me after that episode dropped and said, yes, it is a dummy coil, and I was screaming that at the radio or at the ex speakers while you were there.
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Keep screaming at the radio.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks, some of the finest picks on the market.
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Patrice Fournays, Dylan Tox Tone, Missouri Electrical Box Company, Kevin Harrington, Barry from Grez Guitars, Tom Kelly, Jake Young of Man the Helm Podcast, Pigsy, John O'Neill, Robert Carr, Hunter Hudson, Rob Stokes, Nick Spano, Sasha Sir, Jay Stratton, Harry Post, Harvey Pettles, Allison Carroll, Bum Laser, Anthony Stevens, Atta plays guitar, Philip Carter of the 40-Watt Podcast, who was just on the tone mob, Christopher Logan, Jason Inglehart, Dylan Lewis of Leeward Sound, Josh, James Thompson, Colin Little, John Machete of Odin, Derek Lyons, Darth Bagel, Dustin Romero, Wizard of Waz, Crappy Tom, Bud Cole's Pharmaceutically Enhanced Ponytail, DJ Farnes, Kyle Viana, Robert Hahn, John Hill, Nick Call, Kyle Ray, Your Face, Dave Evangelista of the Guitar Dads Podcast, Roxy Gwyn, Derek Howe, Churchill from Cam Girls Plus, Ross Edwards, and William Price.
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Thanks, guys.
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Appreciate it.
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We'll be back next week.
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Let's do it again next week.
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All right.
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All right.
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I'll show up.
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See you then.
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Bye.
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Ader Hosen.
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