Uranian Planets with Bill Meridian

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What happens in the sky affects life down here on Earth.
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The Celestial Compass shows you how and guides your way
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with astrology you can use from professional astrologer Kathy Beal.
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Every episode features her light-hearted, practical forecasts and navigational tips,
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blended with humor, optimism, and a love of patterns, symbolism,
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and pop culture references. Kathy translates technicalities into concepts that
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apply to real life. You'll learn how the current moment
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ties to where we've been, from the recent past to
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cycles that last happened years ago, and get a look
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at where we're heading. And much more, from special topics
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to special guests. The Celestial Compass. Enlightening, entertaining, and empowering.
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Here's your host, Kathy Beal.
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Greetings Earthlings. I'm Kathy Beal of empowermentunlimited.net and the Professional
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Aquarian YouTube channel welcoming you to Celestial Compass. It's just
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now past eclipse season. We're crawling out, stumbling out, and
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we're going to find that September isn't anywhere near as
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rocky as what we've been through the last few months. Instead,
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we're going to be thinking a lot about, wrapping our
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minds a lot around what has happened, gathering information. There
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are some adjustments in the first week of the month
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that will be called upon to make, but the rest
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of the month is predominantly rethinking, gaining information, thinking about
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what we're going to do about things, looking at our
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situations with a lot of innovation and unusual approaches. Mercury
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is going to be making an air grand trine with
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the two cosmic change agents, Uranus and Pluto, helping us
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come up with all kinds of different ways of looking
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at what just happened. And Venus, the social ruler of
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the zodiac, is also going to be getting a lot
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of pressure from them for us to really go deep
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into what we value and what we're looking for in relationships.
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Both of these general areas are going to come up
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again for a lot of deeper looking, deeper dives in October.
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when both Mercury, well, first Venus and then Mercury, go retrograde.
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Some big dates to keep in mind this month. The
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10th has an awful lot of activity. Mercury moves into Libra,
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and we may be finding ourselves, if not more conciliatory,
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at least discussing things and trying to find common ground
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or trying to win, gain somebody's acceptance for a scheme
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or a plan that we have. On that same day,
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Venus moves into Scorpio, where she will spend an extraordinary
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amount of time and go retrograde next month. This is
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not nice, polite stuff. It's really going deep and dirty
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down into the stuff that we don't often want to
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talk about in public, but things that we feel intensely
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strong about. There's a Virgo new moon on that day
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as well. The next big day to keep in mind
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is the 22nd. That's the equinox, the fall equinox in
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the north, the spring equinox in the south. And soon
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after that, we have the Aries full moon, which will
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be wrapping up or culminating some more of... all of
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the rewiring and what's been changing in our lives. I've
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been using the word rewiring since the middle of June.
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So this is like getting up to speed month, thinking
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about things, contemplating, starting to figure out what we're going
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to do about stuff and taking deeper looks at the
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situations we're in and how well they line up or
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do not line up with what we ultimately want. My
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forecasts always are at my site, if you want a
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lot more about this, my site empowermentunlimited.net, my YouTube channel,
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Professional Aquarian, and my monthly and moon forecasts are always
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also at ometimes.com. And with that, I'd like to introduce
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you to an astrologer I have known for a long time,
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who has quite a renown as a financial forecaster, but
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he also has a long-standing interest and mastery of Uranian astrology,
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and has just published a book about that. So that
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is the focus of today. Bill Meridian earned his MBA
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from New York University in 1972, the same year he
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began studying astrology. His study of core energetics, Zazen and
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Tai Chi, deepened his understanding of the Uranian system. He
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was a member of Vienna's, I hope I'm pronouncing this right,
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Kano Circle, and serves on the board of the Foundation
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for the Study of Cycles. His books explore astrology, planetary cycles, geopolitics, eclipses,
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and financial markets. Thank you for being here, Bill.
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Well, thank you for having me, Kathy.
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I have never asked you this question in all of
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our conversations. But I always like to ask a first-time guest,
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how did you come to astrology?
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Well, I always had an interest in things that were otherworldly,
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like UFOs. And I didn't know anything about astrology or tarot.
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And so I got out of university and I started
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looking around at such matters. And I met an astrologer
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whom I still know. He lives north of here. who said,
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I'll tell you one thing, you'll never have any inheritance.
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I've sat in the food on the eighth house. Well,
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that was ridiculous. My father was one of the wealthiest
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men in New Jersey. And he lost everything. So I
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was impressed by the prediction, depressed by the event itself.
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And then I started studying the stock market. And I
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got out with my MBA in 72, just in time
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to see everything I was taught not work out or
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go wrong. And so I started looking for alternative forecasting methods,
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and I joined the Foundation for the Study of Cycles,
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which then was in Pittsburgh. And I noticed that the
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cycles they isolated relating to the stock market were 18.6, 9.3 years.
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What does that sound like? The lunar node and half
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the lunar node. And then there were other cycles that
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were 3.8 something years is equivalent to Mars and the
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asteroid Vesta. So I saw that and I said, I
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started taking lessons. I took lessons for two years in
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New Jersey, then moved it to New York, which is
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where everything really accelerated. Because New York at that time,
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we had Charles Chang, John Townley, Rob Hand, and all
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the best astrologers you could find. Wow.
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Oh, and you were in the village too. So I
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imagine that was a fertile environment.
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I was at 111 Waverly Place, apartment three, zip 10011,
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if you believe in numerology.
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That's wonderful. So you immediately build a bridge between your
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training and your interest in the financial markets, and then
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it went straight to cycles. I mean, I don't know
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too many people who have this as their story. It's
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usually I saw star squirrels in the grocery store, and
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they intrigued me. But yours was a highly practical introduction
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from the get-go.
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Yes. And I didn't know of anyone who had done
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this type of work, but let's remember there were no
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computers and there were no, no software back then. And
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I looked at whatever I could look at. And Ed
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Dewey was director of the foundation from 1940 and in
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1971 or two, I guess he, he saw he was
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very senior in his life. And he wrote an article
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called Mercury and Stock Prices. And he wrote that when
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the sun is conjunct Mercury in the I'm trying to remember,
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the 10th sector. By that, he meant Capricorn. Dow Jones
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has tended to rally. It used to be, during his period,
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89% of the time. What he meant was the sun
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conjunct Mercury in Capricorn, which can only happen, as you know,
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at the end of the year. And a lot of
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people would say, well, the market's up at the end
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of the year anyway. Yeah, but it's only up about
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70% of the time. With this, it's 89. Right now,
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it's currently running at 84. And Do you want me
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to talk a little about the history of the foundation? Oh, sure.
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Go ahead.
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Ed Dewey was in university in the late 30s. And
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his roommate was a fellow that went on to become
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a well-known executive in the life insurance industry. And I
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started out in that industry in 72. And he said, look,
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Dewey said to his roommate, I did these planetary cycles.
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He had like graphs, like not horoscopes, but Jupiter, Saturn. Look,
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these things tend to happen at regular intervals, matching the
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cycles of the planets. And he said, well, I have
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a classmate of ours who might be interested. It was
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David Williams, now known to all of us or remembered
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as the late Lieutenant Commander David Williams, who showed them
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how to do round horoscopes. And an insurance executive whose
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name I'm still trying to remember, I should remember it,
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but I don't, he said, well, I can go, I
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know Clement Stone, the insurance magnate, and I can ask
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him for an endowment to start a foundation. If I
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mention planets, he'll never give us anything. Let's call it
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the Foundation for the Study of Cycles. And that is
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how they got their endowment and got started. And after
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31 years, he finally came out and said the basis
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for all the cycles is planets. And he published Mercury
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and Stock Prices. And the files used to be filled
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with lots of planetary stuff. But a certain director, I
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got an eyewitness on this, pilfered all of that stuff
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while he was director and made off with it. And
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some of my files were this thick. And the foundations
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were this thick because I had gotten all the information
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before he took over. So that took me up to 72, 74, 75.
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And at that time, I was very lucky. God bless me.
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Whenever I study something, I get the best teachers. And
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we had a notice up in an astrology school here
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in Hackensack, New Jersey, And I went over to New
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York and I met John Tanley and Charles Jane. And
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of course, I felt like I didn't know anything. And
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then I started taking classes with Al Morrison and I
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met Arlene Neimark, Lee Laban, Faith McInerney and Diana Rosenberg.
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And they had computerized charts. And I said, where did
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you get those? And they said, from Neil Nicholson, Astro Computing.
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I said, well, wait a minute. Wait just a minute.
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What are all these other symbols in here? Well, those
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are the four asteroids that Eleanor Bach introduced into astrology.
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And eight other bodies of the Hamburg School planets. And
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I said, what is this? And of course, if you've
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just been in astrology two, three, four years, this was mind-boggling.
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So I went to Eleanor and I studied with her.
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And I remember Dr. Edgar Wagner was 76 years old
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or 78, he was a PhD in chemistry with a
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great knowledge of homeopathy. And some lady said, you know,
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we'd meet in groups. I'm going to start something or other,
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a company to do this. And he said, Dr. White,
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it's not going to work out. And we said, why?
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It's the third house. There's nothing in the third house.
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Saturn is going to run over Capito in the third house.
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What's Capito? It was one of the Iranian planets that
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rules integration. And he was right. Saturn transited over it.
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and she could not get the people to integrate. There
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were too many saturnine egos squabbling, and it didn't work
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out just as Dr. Wagner predicted. And so that was
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the first time I ever saw Uranian planets actually work.
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And then you made a lifetime of following them and
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studying them. So for the people who are watching who
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are unfamiliar with this, this is a school that was
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developed in Hamburg based on observations about military movements? Isn't
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that how it started?
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Alfred Widow was an infantryman in World War I. And
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after the war, he was wondering, he thought if astrology
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is valid, I should be able to predict the outbreak
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of all the battles. And he was unable to do so.
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So he developed a 90 degree dial, which is obviously
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it's the fourth and the eighth harmonic. And he would
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put planets and he would notice that sometimes there was
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a symmetrical arrangement, which we call planetary picture or a
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midpoint structure. And sometimes there would be an event and
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sometimes not. And so he put a little X to
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make a complete planetary picture. In other words, you've got
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the planet here, a planet here, one here and one here.
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If one is missing, he put that X there, that
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X became Cupido. And that is how it began. Now,
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he developed, I think, too, and his student, Friedrich Seguin,
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who was a professional mathematician, developed the other four or six.
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I don't know. Different people have different stories. But that
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came to the United States with Hans Niggemann, who lived
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in the Bronx. And Hans was one of Bitter's original students.
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And he taught there. Now, the people who taught me
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studied with him. And not only that, my Zen master
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studied with him. And so there's like a circle here
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of people I guess I was supposed to meet or whatever.
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And that is how it developed. But what really blew
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me away, it was very handsome, young black man. I
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guess he was in his late 20s and I was
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in my early 20s, Michael Dubois. And I think he
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died at a young age. I'm not sure. But he
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did a lecture and he pointed out, he said, these
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are the Iranian planets and They're slow moving, so if
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you use Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in mundane astrology, shouldn't
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you use these? And he pointed out when we had
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worldwide peace demonstrations, we had Apollon at zero Libra. Well,
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zero Libra, they also, this bit introduced the world points,
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which are zero of the cardinal signs. Zero Aries, Cancer, Capricorn,
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and Libra. If you're plus or minus one degree from that,
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then anything you say or do goes right out into
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the world. So if you're a writer, and you want
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everybody to read your material, you want your Mercury there,
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or you want it at 15 fix, because 15 fix
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is 45 degrees to the world points. And Duval went
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on to say, look, when Cupido, which is integration coming together,
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the urge to merge, was conjunct Poseidon, we had what?
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Spiritual communities. We had spiritual communes in the 60s. I said,
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hold it. I said, these planets are this powerful. And
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he said when Kronos was square Zeus, which it was
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from most of the last century, but he said this
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was during the two world wars. And there's one manifestation
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is Kronos, you're up high. Zeus is like Zeus throwing lightning.
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It rules bombs and rockets and all the great spires,
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these beautiful churches and all that reached up to the
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sky were destroyed by aerial bombardment. And so when I
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saw that, I said to myself, I've got to study
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this and find out all about it. And to me,
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you know, to do a mundane forecast, if you do
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a mundane forecast, to me, you look like you're eating
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soup with a fork. It's not enough tools for the job.
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So in Uranian astrology, there are eight bodies that are
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looked at, and they have very long orbits. The first one, Cupido,
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is a little bit slower than Pluto. It's about the equivalent,
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I would say. But all of the others have really,
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really long orbits. And when I... Well, back up. What
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inspired you to write your book?
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Well, I started taking notes because... I also, I started without,
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I had taken an encounter group at Greenwich Village in NYU.
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And it did me a lot of good. So I
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was looking for another one. Little did I know what
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was going to happen. My cousin introduced me to a
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woman who was part of this group. And so I
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went to an encounter group. It was very heavy. And
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I was not ready for that. And I went through
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two years of being in that group. And then I
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enrolled in the training. And it was a very tough.
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It was two courses. One was five years. One was
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three years. I took them concurrently. Then I took two.
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postgraduate years, and I have no planets in water. So
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I started in the back of the class. I think
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I finished in the back of the class. But Eva
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Parakos would go into trance and speak through a medium,
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through a spirit called the guide. And one of the
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earliest lectures from the late 50s, early 60s is the
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lower self, the higher self, and the mask. Now, immediately
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I put it together. The mask is the ascendant. the
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higher self is Kronos from the Uranian system. And there's
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no doubt in my mind that the lower self is Hades.
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And I was working in this, in this, you know,
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I did this for a decade. And so I would
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get the horoscopes of the people and, you know, somebody's
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Hades would be activated. And it's, oh, my lower self
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is out of control. Or, you know, people would give,
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you know, very negative feedback, like you're being cruel to
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your wife again or whatever, or Kronos would be very activated. Oh,
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you're acting from your lower self. You're so generous. And
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I said, that's, I started to make affiliations between the
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planets and what I was learning. And then after nine
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years of no social life and all my time and
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effort going to this group, I swore I'd never do
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anything like that again. And for one year, I was
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actually living a cool life in Greenwich Village. And then
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I met a martial artist who introduced me to our
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Zen master. And then it started all over again, but worse.
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And it turned out that he was a student of
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Hans Negoen. So is it Bill?
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Yes, yes.
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You see Duval? I said, yeah. And he's sitting in meditation.
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He says, good at sitting. He has a strong amidos.
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Because amidos is concentrating your energy in one place. Because,
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you know, in Zen, if you put your body in
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a certain position, you do it right. You're attracting. You're
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bringing in energy. And we were out doing work practice,
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I think, a year or two in the spring. We
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would work on it. And there's Duval. And I said, master,
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can I see Duval? He said, yeah, he's a strong amethyst.
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He had a jackhammer and he was drilling down into rock.
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And amethyst rules what's below the surface. Gemologists have this,
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people who deal in road materials like tar, macadam, gravel, topsoil,
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they all have a strong amethyst. So I had him
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to talk to from time to time. And you know,
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when you sit, your Admitus, you just, and, you know,
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the session would go on for two, sometimes three days.
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And there was a chant at the end. My mind
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expressed everywhere. My consciousness is every when, every when and everywhere.
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In other words, time and distance. And when you walked
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out of the monastery, when I walked out late on
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a Sunday, that's exactly how I felt. That feeling of,
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you know, that is Apollon, which is the diametric polar
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opposite to Admetus. So if you sit and you concentrate
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and you work on something, that's Admetus. When you're ready
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to present it to the world and sell it, that's Apollon,
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to let everybody know about it. So that's how it developed.
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And I took notes and took notes. But the problem
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was I wrote Hades and Capito very fast. Well, why
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is that? Well, if the planets are strong in your chart,
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you know them really well because you have to deal
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with the energies. But if they're not, so I had
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a tough time with Vulcanus, Zeus, not so much with Poseidon,
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but I had no idea how many notes I had,
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how many journals I had saved. I mean, any Uranian
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astrology lecture, I went through it all. And by the
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time I got to the last planet, Poseidon, I realized
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that the format in the first chapter of the computer
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was completely different. I had to go back and revise
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the formats. So it just took a very long time
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to put this together.
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And it's based on your, I mean, decades of observation.
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It sounds like you were watching the archetypes that are
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being pointed out to you as you were learning them.
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You were seeing people who embodied them.
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Yeah, and a big help to me was David Cochran
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and his Sirius software because they have in there a
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facility where they have all the rotten, highly rated birth dates,
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a big database. So I can actually go in there
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and say, show me all the charts that have midheaven
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conjunct zeus or mercury conjunct hades or and that would
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generate lists and a lot of 75 of the people
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were foreign born i never heard of them so i
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had to do a little bit of analysis of their
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lives but that was helpful to get me outside of
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the group that i knew you know friends people i
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knew in business people i knew in astrology to get
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me out into the world like vulcanus has got to
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do with power i don't have a strong one so
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um It shows up on the Midheaven of Bobby Bonds.
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Baseball players will know that Bobby was one of the
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great power hitters. That's what he's known for, power. He's
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got Vulcanus right on the Midheaven and it equals his Cupido,
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which is family. Well, he's the father of Barry Bonds,
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who holds now the home run record. Vulcanus, Cupido, Ascendant, Midheaven. Now,
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if it didn't, if those things don't tie into your
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personal points, Sun, Moon, Midheaven, Ascendant, North Node, then it's
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probably not significant in your life. It's like having Now,
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everybody has Pluto in their chart, but it's not necessarily
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meaningful or powerful. And one of the, studying Apollon, somebody
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went to Tony Robbins, and they had the country's leading
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expert on direct marketing speak, a woman. And he got
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the birth time of the date. And she has Apollon
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and zero Libra, which is her ascendant. Apollon is distribution
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and marketing. And the fact that she has it on
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her ascendant, which is also a world point, means she's
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the best at it. And when you started to see
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stuff like, this is how, now this next example, how
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to combine this, this woman complained to me, I'm married
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to a guy in the Cayman Islands. I want to
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leave him. And could you look at my chart? I said, well,
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what's his chart? And I looked at, she says, well,
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he's cold and he's always focused on his work and
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he's got no time for me. And he's, and, uh,
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I look at his chart, and he's got the Sun
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conjunct Admetus. I said, well, what does he do for
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a living? He provides gravel, asphalt, tar, crushed rock for
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road construction. So that's both ends of Admetus. And right
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here in my bookshelf is, where is it? The Survival
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of Civilization, I think it's called. I mentioned this guy.
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I don't have an exact birth time, but it's in
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there somewhere. But I think it's called The Survival of Civilization.
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the author of this book, his chart is in there,
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his solar chart. His son is conjunct Admetus, and he
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was studying, he was concerned about the loss of fertility
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in the soil and the fact that he was a nutritionist.
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He was studying, you know, the lack of nutrition was
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leading to many illnesses. He invented a machine that crushes rock,
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and you sprinkle the rock dust, and he got double
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or triple the yield that you would get without it.
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John Hamaker is his name. H-A-M-A-K-E-R. He wrote The Survival
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of Civilization. But He bought this, before global warming, he
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had his own Hamaker warming theory, I guess, that we
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were all going to be starved. By this time, we
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should all have starved to death, according to his book. So,
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but what kind of, that's a son of me, this attitude,
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like the end is coming. But he was, he crushed
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rock to improve crop yields. I don't think you would
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see that with any of the other planets.
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No, no. And so just to double back here to actually,
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we're going to take a break in just a second.
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I would like to just detail what these different bodies are.
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And it seems to me they're almost like a distilled
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version of energies that you get in the planets, but
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just distilled and focused and much more powerful. That's my
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uneducated take on it all. So, This is a good point.
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Everyone hang out. We'll be back very, very soon in
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I'm talking today with Bill Meridian about astrology. He has
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just written a book, The Life Processes of Uranium Planets.
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Do I have the title right? Yes.
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Okay.
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Can you show people your book?
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Sure can.
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There you go. Big, thick guide. And what you have
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done with this is you have a chapter on each
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of the uranium planets and with a really thorough discussion
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and heavy on examples of the various ways that they
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play out. And I was saying before the break that
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my unschooled, I've only taken a few courses in Uranian astrology,
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my unschooled take on this is like they're really intense
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distilled expressions of energies that you might see in other planets,
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but much more focused and powerful. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
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Well, they're like the outer, like Pluto and Neptune, they're
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like the outer planets, yeah. That's correct.
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And they seem to, a lot of them seem to
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have to do with how you wield power, how you
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embody power, how you use it, how you focus it,
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or not.
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Well, I think Cronus, Vulcanus, and Zeus do.
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Yeah, okay. Okay.
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So if someone, it seems to me that there's a,
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with what you're saying, with what you've done with your book,
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there's a deeper understanding of someone and what's going on
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with their lives if you can put these in. And previously,
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I used to have the Planetary Pictures book. And previously,
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there'd be just like a phrase. And what you've done...
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is you've really really fleshed out every single thing to
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show like the the spectrum of possibilities of how each
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of these can play out I'm.
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Laughing because I remember the guy I said to an
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Egyptian guy, he said, so what type of astrology do
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you study? He said, Uranian. I said, Uranian, those things, lovely.
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Your dachshund will step on a landmine. Your head will
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get bitten off by wild dogs. I said, well, it
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was written between two wars. So it was explosions, fires,
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dead bodies. That's true. And I said, that can't mean
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the same thing in everybody's charts. It's got to mean
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something different and something on a personal level. And the
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easiest one to understand is Hades because Hades takes whatever
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it contacts and reduces it to its lowest level. So
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Mercury Hades would be someone who probably can't think too
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well and uses a lot of foul language. Mercury Kronos
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would be someone who does not use foul language and
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has a very high intellect for ease in understanding things.
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So those are the two first and the easiest to understand.
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Kronos and Hades, yeah. Makes me think I should have
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looked at my chart again. Because I have an intellect
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and a foul mouth. So there we go. Now, different
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people came up with the names and the symbols are
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interesting because some of them actually look like they grew
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out of other planetary glyphs.
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Let me just say that Capito is a good example.
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It looks like Jupiter and Venus. And it's got to
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do with integration and it relates to art because what
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happens when everybody sees a patriotic picture or they sing
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a song. So art and music Any practice that unifies
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people and makes them feel like they belong is ruled
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by Capito. That's the connection to artwork. And Wayne Booher,
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my late friend from New York, who was one of
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my teachers, he said that, you know, Venus and Jupiter
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are conjunct in zero Aries, and they're not conjunct again
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for like 200 and something years about the cycle of Capito.
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So it could be that these planets are echoes created
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by conjunctions of known planets at zero Aries.
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Now, that's a fascinating theory.
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And also, if you look at Apollon, it looks like
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Jupiter and Gemini. I don't know how that would connect.
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But I did just mention, I mean, Kronos, I have
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some examples in there that I still, you know, I
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had to do, you know, as Rob Hand used to
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call it, high weirdness in astrology, like Some conjunct Kronos,
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Jeff Morrow, who's an actor, mostly in science fiction movies.
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And I know them all because I was a kid.
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And his son is conjunct Kronos. What movie did he
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star in? Kronos.
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That's so funny.
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Some foreign planet shot a mechanism here to absorb electricity.
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They steal electricity and then they fly back. And I
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looked through his life and I was trying to find
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what else does it tell me about him? There's very little.
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He's not a well-known actor, so there's very little. But
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then he was also in This Island Earth. And I
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read there was a production problem. It was Rex Reason,
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who was also a star in the movie, had no
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acting skills. And he was the handsome hunk that they
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put in the movie to be the love interest. And
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Jeff Mara was the wise intellectual alien from the planet Metaluna. Anyway,
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he was mortified by Reason's lack of acting ability. So
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he had this Very high expectations. You could say he
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was elitist. He just had a very high expectation of
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talent that is needed to be an actor. And then
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there's the lady born with the sun conjunct Vulcanus, who
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at five years old, this pair was activated. She went
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to a circus and saw a circus strongman. So she
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decided to become a bodybuilder. And she adopted the name
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of Vulcanus.
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Oh, that's great.
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And she, uh, I got a picture in the book
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and she, uh, won all these weightlifting championships, uh, went
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all around the country, tests of strength, you know, carnival
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type stuff.
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It's always so funny when astrology actually plays out literally
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in the world.
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Something else that I think most people have not read
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Charles Jane's book because they were tough to read, but, um,
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In his book, Unknown Planets, he said, well, here's how
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I come up with these unknown planets. And these are
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not Uranian planets, unknown planets. But there was one paragraph
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in which he said that Pluto was discovered due to
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perturbations in the orbit of Neptune that cannot be explained
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by any of the known planets. He said, well, now
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there are perturbations in the orbit of Pluto that cannot
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be explained by any of the known planets. And he
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had a paragraph where a German astronomer, by using that method,
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he hyped He came up with a hypothetical planet, and
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he called it Hades, and it was about one-third of
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one degree from where the Uranian Hades is, and he
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did that from gravitational pulse. It couldn't be explained. Very
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few people have ever read that. I put that in
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the book also.
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Now this is making me wonder about, I'm serious, the
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production team and the artists behind the musical Hadestown. I'm
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very curious. what's going on in their charts with that.
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Could be fascinating. Yeah, it's a retelling about going into
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the underworld. Okay.
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Well, Venus Hades is very powerful in Martin Scorsese's chart.
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Most of his movies were mafia movies. It's very strong
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in the horoscope of Christopher Lee, who was a sexy,
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sophisticated Dracula. And I can't think of the others, but
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that's Venus Hades.
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I'm sure there are many other ways that plays out.
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So Hades would also be like mafia behavior too, right?
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Mobster behavior could be.
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I know a lot of people with, I mean, one woman,
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she's a perfectly respectable woman with her son conjunct Hades.
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And she said, my father was involved in all these
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illegal activities. And I'm still a bit embarrassed about it.
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And another woman whose father died back before we had
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VCRs in a pornographic theater watching a movie. He had
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a heart attack and died. Son, Hades. That was a big,
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heavy stain on her life. And I'm sitting in the
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Trader Vic's in Abu Dhabi one night in the 90s
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in the summer. And the summer is so hot. It's 110,
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120 degrees with humidity. And all the families usually leave.
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And so the ladies of the night go to places
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where they usually don't frequent, like Trader Vic's. And two
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came up, sat beside me. And I said, one's Russian,
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one's Lithuanian. I said, no, I'm not interested. I said,
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wait a minute. I'll buy you both a drink if
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you give me your birthdates. And they said, what? And
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I said, yeah, just order a drink. The one had
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the Venus conjunct Hades with an orb of one degree.
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The other had the Venus opposite Hades with an orb
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of one degree. Venus Hades is the form of the
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prostitution right out of the book.
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Uh-huh. That's utterly fascinating.
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And the lady who used to do my hair lived
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in St. Mark's Place. I was so busy with Wall Street.
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They were open till like midnight. And so I'd walk
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over there. You know, nobody's going to be there. So
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no waiting. And I'd sit and she'd cut my hair.
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We'd yak. I'd say, hey, that's a really clever outfit. Oh, well, this, oh,
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this I found. You see this scarf? I found it.
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It was in a trash can. And I took it
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out and I cleaned it. She took, you know, Venus
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discarded things and she beautified them. Venus Hades discarded clothing.
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That is fascinating. So there are many, many ways all
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of this can manifest.
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So most of this book was spent bringing that down.
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You know, we hate the Iranian astrology into a more
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of a, you know, what Liz Green did for Saturn.
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I was trying to do for the Iranian planets because
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all of my teachers, where I mentioned it to people
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in Germany, they said, no, no, it's a, no, it's
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just event driven. You know, if this, if this and
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this happens, then this is the result. And And I
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remember I met Udo Rural, who was a senior member
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of the Hamburg School. And they said, somebody says, I
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want you to mention my name. And his eyes lit
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00:38:16.219 --> 00:38:17.639
up and he shook my hand and said, you're a
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good friend of the Iranian School of Astrology. Thank you
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00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.280
so much. And that really was one of the inspirations
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to write the book, which is why I dedicated it
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to him as well as to other people. But, you know,
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00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:30.800
they say the best way to learn basketball or chess,
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for that matter, is go to New York, go to
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Greenwich Village, and you'll see on 6th Avenue a basketball court,
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and everybody hangs out there just to watch, because these
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young guys are so talented, that if you go into
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the park, there are all these people playing chess. Well,
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at that time, New York was, that's what it was
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00:38:46.250 --> 00:38:49.769
like for Uranian astrology. I would meet Diana Rosenberg, Arlene Neimark,
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Lee Lehman, Luck New York, but there was also Faith McInerney,
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and we'd all get together in Yak, and Wayne Brewer
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was there, and Gary Christian came over from New Jersey,
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00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:02.969
and we'd just sit around, and And Diana says, look
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at this chart. I said, yeah, it's got Cirrus. The
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00:39:05.469 --> 00:39:08.429
asteroid Cirrus has to do with food. Cirrus Hades is
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junk food. And then Vera Epstein does a lecture and
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00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:16.300
she shows the great chefs like Anthony Bourdain have Cirrus
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00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:20.820
Kronos equals Midheaven. So Hades is the junk side of food.
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00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.699
And the other side is Kronos Cirrus. So it even
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works with asteroids. But I tried to. I tried to
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00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.480
bring it down to an Earth level rather than, you know,
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this happened and that happened 3,000 years ago and this
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empire fell apart. You know, most of us can't relate
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to that anymore. But I did want to say that
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there are two combinations coming next year. One is in May.
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That is Uranus conjunct Admetus. Now, Uranus-Admetus is like the
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lightning-struck tower from the tarot deck. Of course, as I
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00:39:57.219 --> 00:40:01.500
said in the book, this is what helped me. Saturn
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00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.599
is real estate. It's the surface of the Earth. Admetus
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is geology. It's what's below the Earth. And when I
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was living in Houston, I was only there for eight months,
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I did the horoscopes of a lot of young girls,
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like Sun, Admetus, while their fathers worked as geologists. Son,
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I meet us. My father's in geology. He bore down
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to the earth. And Saturn, on a personal level, is
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what Dr. John Paracas used to say, there's the unconscious
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and the subconscious. The subconscious is what you don't want
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00:40:37.659 --> 00:40:39.449
to see. You know it's true about yourself, but you
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don't prefer not to talk about it. He said, that
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I decided is Saturn. But after you, like somebody once said,
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it's like, I don't want to see it. I don't
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want to see it. And it goes below the level
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of consciousness. That's Admetus. And so Uranus Hades is waking
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you up. It's like a lightning strike. Like I had Venus, Admetus, Uranus,
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and my girlfriend broke up with me because I wasn't
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sensitive enough to her. Venus, Admetus is being insensitive. Richard
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00:41:07.730 --> 00:41:10.780
Nixon had Venus, Admetus equals Midheaven and Venus. The newsman,
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Sander Van Oker, said, the shallowness of this man frightens me.
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That's Ignis Admetis. And so they will be conjunct in
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May of 2027. The last time they were conjunct was 1929, 1930.
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And it coincided with the stock market crash. We have
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only one example to go by. So I can't say
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to you the stock market is going to crash. But
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Uranus Admetis does rule earthquakes. And I guarantee you, Admetis,
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it's in the book. rules semiconductors, because it's the process
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of miniaturization. And when the media started transiting into Gemini,
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suddenly we all had cell phones because the rules nanotechnology,
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making integrated circuits, chips, all things of that matter. So
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I was thinking, what could disrupt the chip industry worldwide?
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How about if you have an undersea earthquake and a
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typhoon engulfs Taiwan? That fits in terms of weather and
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fits in terms of industry. will the stock market crash? Well,
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I don't think next year is a good year for
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several reasons. I wrote a book called Planetary Economic Forecasting,
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and if you extend those six planetary cycles into next year,
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they go down, not up. And the third reason is
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we have a big planetary picture, which is Neptune, Apollon,
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and Venus, that was in the book as pretty serious economically.
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So I pulled up the book, Index of economic activity
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done by Ameritrust Bank in the 30s. Now this, it
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ended in 1988, but I have maintained it ever since.
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And I wrote the book, Economic Forecasting, about it. And
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if you apply this three-planet formula, it does show significant
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disruptions in the economy. And that is exact next year.
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So you've got now one, two, three reasons, and plus
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00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:01.449
that it's a year ending in a seven, which is
700
00:43:01.550 --> 00:43:06.510
usually difficult anyway. And Apollon, has a lot to do,
701
00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:08.269
as I said, with distribution. But if you look in
702
00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:11.909
the book, Jupiter-Apollon, it's currency in circulation. So it looks
703
00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.050
to me that the debt situation might get out of control.
704
00:43:15.110 --> 00:43:17.750
And in the past, what have they done? Canceled the
705
00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:21.429
currency and issued a new one? Or they've, you know,
706
00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:25.289
Nixon took us off the gold standard. Carter signed the
707
00:43:25.309 --> 00:43:29.519
Monetary Control Act, which enables the Fed to inflate to infinity.
708
00:43:30.340 --> 00:43:34.360
So these are pretty heavy. But Uranus and Metis, In
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00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:38.030
personal charts, it's usually automobile accidents. You come to a
710
00:43:38.050 --> 00:43:41.309
very sudden stop. And it's got a lot to do
711
00:43:41.329 --> 00:43:44.010
with hard drive crashes. So if you see this activated
712
00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:46.110
in your chart, make sure your information is backed up.
713
00:43:48.369 --> 00:43:50.329
Hard drive crashes. That's pretty granular.
714
00:43:51.289 --> 00:43:51.489
Yeah.
715
00:43:52.269 --> 00:44:01.699
That's pretty granular. Wow. Okay. Well, what... So your book...
716
00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:05.679
it seems to me primarily speaks to someone who has,
717
00:44:06.409 --> 00:44:11.110
who's somewhat conversant at least in Uranian astrology, but perhaps
718
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:15.130
it's going to get some people interested in the method.
719
00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:18.969
I mean, I took a number of workshops and was
720
00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:22.949
absolutely intrigued and then just got waylaid by life, but
721
00:44:23.869 --> 00:44:26.159
it's such a different way of looking at things. And
722
00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:29.599
it shows, it's like it lights up the information that,
723
00:44:30.610 --> 00:44:32.949
in a way that crystallizes what it's about.
724
00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:39.110
Well, that's, I, you know, what I was taught in
725
00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:42.630
the books that I read, it was always, you've got
726
00:44:42.650 --> 00:44:44.329
this in your chart, so this is going to happen.
727
00:44:44.369 --> 00:44:45.969
And I would think, well, why, what is going on
728
00:44:46.010 --> 00:44:48.179
inside the person that creates that? And my Zen master
729
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.559
would support that. He would say, he said, you know,
730
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.579
I can see, you know, he's, you know, the cartoons
731
00:44:53.619 --> 00:44:55.699
with the thoughts and the speech over the head of
732
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.460
the cartoon. He said, that's when your energy is building up.
733
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.360
And if it's very bad energy with the day, that,
734
00:45:00.750 --> 00:45:03.030
is punctured and comes down on you. Is it God
735
00:45:03.070 --> 00:45:05.210
help you? Because me, as powerful as I am, I
736
00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:08.219
cannot help you. And he knew I could converse with
737
00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:12.880
him about Uranian astrology. And so this really didn't make
738
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:18.840
any sense. It wasn't very helpful until you understand, until
739
00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:23.269
you personalize it, understand how a person would, the great
740
00:45:23.409 --> 00:45:25.730
Oswego fire, which is in the book, which was a
741
00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:29.630
dreadful fire out in the Midwest, started when Zeus was activated.
742
00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:32.769
And it was started by lightning strikes. That's, that's Zeus.
743
00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:35.750
And what does that mean on a personal basis? We
744
00:45:35.809 --> 00:45:39.139
had one guy come to the Institute and he said, uh,
745
00:45:39.699 --> 00:45:42.619
and he was, he, you know, head backing. He's very
746
00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:44.280
proud of himself. He's, I want to set the world
747
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.559
on fire. I want to set the world on fire. And, uh,
748
00:45:47.659 --> 00:45:49.699
in the course of getting to know him, I was
749
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.360
on a team. I was junior. I had to work
750
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.739
with him. What do you do? Urban. He says, well,
751
00:45:53.760 --> 00:46:00.690
I'm a commercial artist. And it turned out he had, uh, Zeus, Venus, Neptune,
752
00:46:00.949 --> 00:46:02.730
what did you do during the war? He said, I
753
00:46:02.769 --> 00:46:05.369
was a navigator on a bomber in Italy. I said,
754
00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:08.280
that means you flew missions against the Axis oil fields
755
00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:10.960
in Romania. He wanted to set the world on fire.
756
00:46:11.019 --> 00:46:13.940
He did. Crono Zeus, he was up in the air
757
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.860
dropping in an airplane that dropped bombs. But you see,
758
00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:20.820
the dropping of the bombs, I want to set the
759
00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:22.909
world on fire, and I'm a creative artist.
760
00:46:24.690 --> 00:46:34.190
All different aspects of the same influences. Absolutely fascinating. So
761
00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:41.300
I'm not seeing this being taught really widely at this point.
762
00:46:43.780 --> 00:46:46.639
Well, before she died, Arlene Nymark said, you know, they're
763
00:46:46.659 --> 00:46:51.179
not even having a uranium track at UAC. This was
764
00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:54.510
about 10 years ago or 12 years ago. It's been
765
00:46:54.530 --> 00:46:58.829
so long I don't remember. I said, yeah, that's really
766
00:46:58.849 --> 00:47:01.239
too bad and I was going to write this book
767
00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:03.579
and not write the book. But anybody I talked to,
768
00:47:04.059 --> 00:47:05.539
when I explained to them, they said, you got to
769
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.260
write that down. You got to do that. And of course,
770
00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:10.960
the first chapters, the Capito, Hades, I have an extremely
771
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.760
strong Hades. I was born in Mafia-controlled northern New Jersey
772
00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:18.010
with Hades seven minutes from my fourth house cusp. And
773
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.210
my father was a mayor and a power broker. And
774
00:47:20.230 --> 00:47:22.809
of course, we're Italian. And I had an uncle who
775
00:47:22.829 --> 00:47:26.650
was in the trash removal business. That's Hades. And, you know,
776
00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:28.429
my uncle's on the phone. He's like, be quiet. I
777
00:47:28.449 --> 00:47:32.130
got my lawyer. What? He said, what? He did what?
778
00:47:32.969 --> 00:47:34.590
I want to sue him. How much will it cost
779
00:47:34.610 --> 00:47:36.530
for me to sue him? And he said, I can
780
00:47:36.550 --> 00:47:40.280
have him shot for less than that. And my parents
781
00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:42.780
explained to me that, you know, certain things are illegal.
782
00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:49.480
And Tony's grocery store around the corner is a bookie parlor.
783
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.869
And I said, I didn't see any books. And they said, no,
784
00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:53.949
it's gambling. I said, well, why don't they bring it
785
00:47:53.989 --> 00:47:55.829
out in front? He said, because it's illegal. And they
786
00:47:55.849 --> 00:47:58.980
just told me there's a whole substrate. That's Haiti's. And
787
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.500
I was sort of right in the middle of this
788
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.800
because you would, you know, pick up the paper and
789
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.179
somebody got shot or somebody got beaten up. And you
790
00:48:06.219 --> 00:48:11.489
knew the local godfather, his name was Guy. And so
791
00:48:11.570 --> 00:48:15.849
this was Hades on the icy. And I have a
792
00:48:15.889 --> 00:48:17.590
friend right here. I'm not going to point in any
793
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.300
direction or say who it is, but I met her
794
00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:22.300
here 12 or 13 years ago. And after two or
795
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.539
three years of friendship, Hades is transiting over my seventh
796
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.579
house cusp. And she says, well, you know, I didn't
797
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.920
think we were going to become close friends. But I'll
798
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.340
tell you, I'm a retired madam. She used to run
799
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.139
a brothel. Hades transiting my seventh house cusp. So when
800
00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:37.980
you see these things and you can't explain them by
801
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.300
any of the known planets, it's got to be something else.
802
00:48:45.949 --> 00:48:48.889
And if someone wants to learn this now, they just
803
00:48:48.929 --> 00:48:52.889
have to cast about, flail about. I remember there was
804
00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:57.570
a track And the New York City NCGR conferences used
805
00:48:57.610 --> 00:49:00.750
to have a, that's where I got into it. Used
806
00:49:00.769 --> 00:49:01.449
to have a track.
807
00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:04.369
All the Iranian astrologers were around at that time and
808
00:49:04.389 --> 00:49:04.949
they insisted.
809
00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:09.590
So people are pretty much on their own now if
810
00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:10.829
they want to find out about it.
811
00:49:13.150 --> 00:49:14.449
At the moment, I think so.
812
00:49:18.289 --> 00:49:21.409
So there's your book. you're not you don't really lecture
813
00:49:21.489 --> 00:49:24.409
on this though right or do you oh yeah well.
814
00:49:24.349 --> 00:49:29.360
I lecture for the Iranian group at Kepler associated with
815
00:49:29.389 --> 00:49:32.639
Kepler College and the Iranian special interest group of the
816
00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:37.099
NCGR okay but I stopped for a while because I
817
00:49:37.099 --> 00:49:39.969
just wanted to finish the book and the book I
818
00:49:39.989 --> 00:49:42.329
had stuff in books. I had stuff in file cabinets.
819
00:49:42.349 --> 00:49:44.250
I had handwritten notes. I had typewritten notes. I had
820
00:49:44.309 --> 00:49:52.139
old copies of, is it hamburger leaf? And stuff I
821
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.139
collected from anywhere and everywhere. And I pulled it all
822
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.039
out and just started typing up notes and divided it
823
00:49:57.099 --> 00:49:59.260
into eight folders. And then I had to put it
824
00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:04.079
all together. And the biggest problem was eliminating duplicate. It
825
00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:06.039
just took a long time to do this because it
826
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:09.800
was just a heavy volume of material and As I said,
827
00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:11.059
when I got to the end of the book, I
828
00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:12.929
realized that the format at the beginning of the book
829
00:50:12.949 --> 00:50:14.469
was different. So I had to go back and change
830
00:50:14.550 --> 00:50:25.989
all the chapters. And I moved to New York, Hades.
831
00:50:26.550 --> 00:50:29.119
I lived in a very old building, a brownstone, a
832
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.139
111 Waverly place that was built by a sea captain.
833
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.280
I had a marble fireplace, a wood parquet floor, and
834
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.929
a tin ceiling. And I lived across the street from
835
00:50:37.929 --> 00:50:40.280
112 where we were placed, where in the basement lived
836
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.679
a lesbian couple, one who worked as a prostitute. And
837
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.039
on the third floor were two gay guys who dealt drugs.
838
00:50:47.099 --> 00:50:48.980
And the reason I know this is because the guy
839
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.760
who owned the building became a friend of mine. And
840
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.849
I said, how did you get this building? And he said, look,
841
00:50:56.309 --> 00:51:00.090
the guy who owned it, he looked like Ernest Hemingway.
842
00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:03.309
He had the white bushy beard, the chains around the neck,
843
00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:05.369
the pot belly, the white shirt, and he drove a
844
00:51:05.389 --> 00:51:10.369
gold Rolls Royce. Well, he wrote sort of a gambling newspaper,
845
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:13.900
telling people what to bet on. But most of the
846
00:51:13.940 --> 00:51:16.099
profits went up his nose in the form of cocaine.
847
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:20.260
And it became so unstable that Jack loaned him money
848
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.139
and wound up owning the building. So that's how I know.
849
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.449
But that's Haiti. That's a Haiti's neighborhood.
850
00:51:27.969 --> 00:51:31.929
Anyone who's been there, it's still a Haiti's neighborhood. Yep. Yep.
851
00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:34.929
So where can people find your book?
852
00:51:36.690 --> 00:51:40.670
Well, I still have my old BillMeridian.com, but it became
853
00:51:40.769 --> 00:51:44.250
so big and filled it was easier to create another
854
00:51:44.289 --> 00:51:48.219
smaller one called BillMeridianAstrology.com. So if you go to either one,
855
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.880
they should take you to publications. But I would go
856
00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:54.539
to BillMeridianAstrology.com, I think, to find it most directly.
857
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.139
It's a very streamlined site in terms of the design.
858
00:52:02.449 --> 00:52:06.559
So people can find you there, Bill Meridian, astrology.com. And
859
00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:08.119
then you also have another site.
860
00:52:10.659 --> 00:52:13.300
Bill Meridian.com, which is the original old one that is
861
00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:17.079
written in Dreamweaver, which is such a difficult language that
862
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.900
nobody wants to work on it. So it's ancient. Yes.
863
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.360
But you also have Cycles Research, which is.
864
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.199
Cyclesresearch.com is dedicated to the stock market, to the world
865
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:30.000
financial markets.
866
00:52:32.309 --> 00:52:35.840
So all your other books would be at Bill Meridian astrology.com
867
00:52:35.900 --> 00:52:40.059
and you have books on eclipses and planetary cycles.
868
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:45.380
And mundane astrology, planetary economic forecasting, two old issues of
869
00:52:45.460 --> 00:52:47.610
in search. And now I think I see a way
870
00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:50.769
to revive the other old copies of in search with AI.
871
00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:53.050
So I don't have to go through it again because
872
00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:56.510
that'll where you're, you know, Charles Jane was a very
873
00:52:56.550 --> 00:52:59.679
brilliant man who never discovered the modern miracle of punctuation
874
00:53:00.500 --> 00:53:03.389
and to try and, read his sentences was tough and
875
00:53:03.409 --> 00:53:06.489
I had to keep breaking them up. And, you know,
876
00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:11.190
these are original in searches that are printed, Mimeo, if
877
00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:14.610
you remember what Mimeo is, eight and a half by
878
00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:17.489
11 heavy sheets stapled together. And I found them at
879
00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:19.239
an old library in Phoenician, New York.
880
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.579
That's how we, how we salvage this precious data that's
881
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:28.579
floating around out there.
882
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:29.579
Yep.
883
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:30.039
Yep.
884
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:31.119
Yep. Yep.
885
00:53:31.219 --> 00:53:31.360
Yep.
886
00:53:32.210 --> 00:53:35.489
Well, I thank you very much for taking the time
887
00:53:35.570 --> 00:53:41.280
to talk about your experiences and explain some about Uranian astrology.
888
00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:44.719
I am betting that I'm going to say probably 75%
889
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.260
of the people watching this have no idea how it works.
890
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.980
And this is an introduction to them. So that's really cool.
891
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.099
Maybe somebody will get interested. It is quite fun to
892
00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:56.659
play with the 90 degree dial.
893
00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:59.559
Well, that's it. It's when you first do it. I mean,
894
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.230
when you start astrology, somebody's got maybe Venus, square Jupiter,
895
00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:06.010
and opposite the sun. But in the radiant system, you
896
00:54:06.030 --> 00:54:09.989
put the pointer on a midpoint or a planet, and
897
00:54:10.030 --> 00:54:12.070
it equals so many different things. You have to integrate
898
00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:14.909
so many different factors. And I think that is very
899
00:54:14.969 --> 00:54:15.809
daunting at first.
900
00:54:18.289 --> 00:54:21.360
But it gives you so much data. It does. It
901
00:54:22.179 --> 00:54:25.030
does very much so. So I thank you very, very
902
00:54:25.070 --> 00:54:25.929
much for being here.
903
00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:28.190
I hope that.
904
00:54:28.050 --> 00:54:31.650
Your book sells well, maybe at UAC. Who knows what
905
00:54:31.690 --> 00:54:35.269
will happen with that? And everybody else out there, remember
906
00:54:35.309 --> 00:54:40.130
that my forecasts are at empowermentunlimited.net, where I have a
907
00:54:40.150 --> 00:54:42.130
mailing list. You can find out what I'm up to.
908
00:54:42.929 --> 00:54:46.969
And the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel. And also I have
909
00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:52.269
a Patreon, patreon.com slash Kathy Beal, with very... that features
910
00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:57.309
very short, as in 45 to 90 second, SASE forecasts
911
00:54:57.929 --> 00:55:01.030
for each day, in addition to everything else that's going on.
912
00:55:01.130 --> 00:55:05.449
So any parting words for our viewers, Bill?
913
00:55:07.289 --> 00:55:11.800
Yeah. The Uranian planets, to me at this point now,
914
00:55:11.860 --> 00:55:16.639
I'm faced with the same challenge I studied with David Cochran,
915
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.940
Harmonic Astrology, which he calls Vibrational Astrology, but also with
916
00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.500
Dorff Planet University with Alan Clay. Now I'm faced with
917
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.599
the same thing all over again. Because I don't, it's
918
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.340
like back when I looked at the computerized charts of
919
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.139
all these symbols, now I see things, I've been in
920
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.909
astrology 54 years, and I'm looking at stuff I don't understand. And,
921
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.699
you know, this last, give you a, last lunar eclipse
922
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.880
was on the sun, the country of Nepal, conjunct, Gangang,
923
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.300
which is an actual outer planet, a dwarf planet that
924
00:55:46.340 --> 00:55:49.150
rules the water gods and floods.
925
00:55:49.869 --> 00:55:50.349
Oh, geez.
926
00:55:51.090 --> 00:55:54.289
And the ruler puts Shijinkangang right on their sun, off
927
00:55:54.329 --> 00:55:58.210
by just a few minutes of arc. Thank you very much.
928
00:55:58.230 --> 00:55:59.309
And now I feel like I'm back where I was
929
00:55:59.309 --> 00:55:59.789
20 years ago.
930
00:56:01.969 --> 00:56:04.050
I know the feeling. And thank you, everybody. We have
931
00:56:04.110 --> 00:56:05.789
run out of time. Thanks again, Bill.
932
00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:11.219
Sure. Bye-bye. Thank you.
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Thank you.