Suburban Witchery With Kanani Soleil

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What happens in the sky affects life down here on Earth.
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The Celestial Compass shows you how and guides your way
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with astrology you can use from professional astrologer Kathy Beal.
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Every episode features her light-hearted, practical forecasts and navigational tips,
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blended with humor, optimism, and a love of patterns, symbolism,
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and pop culture references. Kathy translates technicalities into concepts that
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apply to real life. You'll learn how the current moment
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ties to where we've been, from the recent past to
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cycles that last happened years ago, and get a look
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at where we're heading. And much more, from special topics
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to special guests. The Celestial Compass. Enlightening, entertaining, and empowering.
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Here's your host, Kathy Beal.
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Greetings, Earthlings. Welcome to Celestial Compass. I'm Kathy Beal of EmpowermentUnlimited.net
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and the professional Aquarian YouTube channel, welcoming you, as I said,
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to Celestial Compass during an intense and very, very interesting month.
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Venus has gone retrograde in the sign of Scorpio, which
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is the land of Secrets and sex and deep power
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and crimes and revelations and all the stuff that goes
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on behind closed doors in private that we normally like
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to keep secret, normally don't want to talk about. Venus
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is retrograde in a part of the sky where this
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last happened in 2018 and then again 2010. So you
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can look back in your life for that. We're going
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to get some pretty strong clarity early in her journey
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on the 6th when she meets with Mercury, and you
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could have a visceral knowing of something that is phenomenally
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important to you, something that you value, something that is
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a non-negotiable in your life. She's only been retrograde since
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the 3rd, so very, very early in her journey, we
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will get this massive clarity. She is retrograde, by the way,
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until November 13th, and she will be retrograde in Scorpio
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until the 25th, and then she slides back into Libra
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for the rest of her journey. This week brings a
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moon that she rules. The new moon on the 10th
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is in the sign of Libra, Relationships, It's not going
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to be just a simple, gentle, oh let's all get
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along or let's give each other greeting cards and figure
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out how we're going to be nice to each other.
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This is a really potent, powerful, almost demanding new moon
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because she is in a very challenging relationship with Mars.
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So you can look at Venus in the sky, Venus saying,
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this is what I want, and Mars saying, oh, okay,
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I will go get it for you. There will be
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demands to get things moving, to get things going that
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are extremely important. And this is molding the new starts
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and the new phases and the next phases and the seeds,
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et cetera, that are being planted and nurtured. by the
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Libra new moon. Not gentle at all. Also, women really
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on the uproar, asking for things from men and not
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sitting quietly. The news will give you some indication of that.
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And as this happens, or in the week afterwards, so
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right around, I've got to check my notes, the 16th,
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we have a stabilizing moment, and then another moment of
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Huge information, knowledge, power, revelation, something must happen coming up
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from the depths. Venus will make the second of three
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challenges or squares to Pluto, which is the ruler of
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the sign she's in, the ruler of Scorpio. It's also
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the lord of the ruler of all this stuff that
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we don't like to talk about and When Venus and
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Pluto square off like this, there's often triangulation in the news.
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Something comes up where we have to make a choice.
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We have to do something not just like it has
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been before. And there's kind of an obsessive tractor beam
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quality to anything that goes on through this. Very intense time.
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Right around the time that this happens, as we're going
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into That week, which is, that happens on the 20th,
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then on the 23rd, the Sun will go into Scorpio,
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and then that is when Mercury goes retrograde. The Sun
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and Venus will meet, Mercury will go retrograde, and then
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Venus will go back into Scorpio. Libra so just know
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that in about a week and a half two weeks
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there'll be this incredible cluster of again knowing of certainty
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of knowledge especially when Venus and the Sun meet this
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is a Kazemi or a star point and it's the
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last time it's going to happen in Scorpio for our
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lifetimes bottom line is this is going back over old
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territory people from the past situations from the past things
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that somebody tried to keep under wraps and now they
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can't stay under wraps any longer. In your own life,
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look at it as a time of personal soul retrieval.
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Figure out how you have become different, how you have evolved,
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how the situation in your life is not what it
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was when various circumstances were put in place. This is
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a cleanup time, a purging time. after the big rewiring
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that we all went through in July. Lots more about
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this in my forecasts, which are at OMTimes and on
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my site, empowermentunlimited.net, and at the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel.
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And one final thing, I have a guided visualization at empowermentunlimited.net
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in the shop that has you meet Venus retrograde and
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discuss what this means for you, what you can clear out,
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what the benefit is for you, and what you can
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do with it for a witchy $ 13. That is all.
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So in honor of Venus being in Scorpio and going
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over the past and being in this kind of spooky mode,
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I have taken my Usually in October, I will have
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one show that is focused more on witchcraft or the
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history of Halloween, something more along those lines. And this month,
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it's just going to be looking at witchcraft all month long.
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And that leads to today's guest, Kanani Soleil, who is
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a Pacific Northwest girl at heart who spent, has from
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the beginning been looking for to figure out what life
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is about and to look into the secrets of the universe.
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And at the age of 20, she came across magic.
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And now she is the author of the book, Witchcraft
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in the Cul-de-sac, Suburban Witch, Suburban Mom. Welcome, Kavani.
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Thank you so much. I'm really excited to be here. Yay.
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Well, can you tell us a little bit about how
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you came to witchcraft?
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Yeah. So, um, I grew up in a, uh, kind
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of an agnostic, uh, family where we believed in something,
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we believed in something bigger than ourselves. There wasn't really
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a formalized practice or anything that went along with that.
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So I was very lucky in that I had the
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freedom to kind of figure out what that meant for myself.
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And so I explored, uh, organized religions. I explored all
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kinds of different things. And the only thing that really
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rang true for me was the practice of witchcraft. That
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was kind of, it fell in line with a lot
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of my spiritual beliefs and my beliefs in spirits and
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in the energy of the universe and things like that.
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And so just the more and more I started kind
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of settling into my practice and what I did and
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what I believed, just the more and more I just
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kind of found myself entrenched in a witchcraft practice until
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eventually I just threw my hands up and stopped calling
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myself spiritual and said, okay, I'm a witch. Here I am.
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I'm a witch. It's what it is. And then I,
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I just, I learned to embrace that. And for a
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long time, I, because of all the negative connotations that
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can be associated with the word, which I did, I
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called myself spiritual and that was my kind of tagline.
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And eventually, and also, I had this preconceived notion of
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what a witch looks like, what her house looks like,
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what she dresses like, what she does. And I'm a suburban,
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I'm a suburbanite. I grew up in the burbs. I
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love the burbs. I'm raising my children in the suburbs.
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I've got the messy mom hair buns and my yoga
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pants that have never seen a yoga class. And I
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love my latte. and all the things, right? And I
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just didn't think that that fit the profile of who
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I thought a witch was until I realized that was
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my own boundary. That was my own misgivings. That had
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nothing to do with any sense of reality. And I just...
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you know, my friend encouraged me and she said, write
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the book that you wish that 20 year old you had.
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And so that's what I did. I wrote the book
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so that people don't feel discluded. So they realize you
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can love all these things and live in this world
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and love this world. And it's not at all exclusionary
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to living a magical life that coexists beautifully because magic
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is all around us. So you can have this suburban
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existence that you love and, and be a powerful, empowered witch.
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So let me go back just a little bit in
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your comments. Did you first get exposed to the notion
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of witchcraft by reading, by books? Did you run into somebody?
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Were you in a store and you saw cool trinkets?
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How did that happen?
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I love this. I love the background of this. So
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originally in my real spiritual kind of upbringing and trying
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to learn and understand in my family was a very
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real belief in ghosts, spirits, life after death, miraculous things
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that people in the family had experienced. More specifically, one
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of my grandfathers who had incredible stories that he would share.
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And so that was very fundamental to kind of my
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baseline of anywhere I was going to go was this
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belief in life after death. spirits, being able to talk to,
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not just spirits, but being able to communicate with them,
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them being a part of our existence, this concept of
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angels or spirit guides or there's different things people can
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call them, but just that existence. And then this was
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the 90s, right? The craft and Sabrina the Teenage Witch
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and later practical magic, right? It was... it was very
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much kind of in, in the culture. And, uh, my
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best friend who is Courtney Weber, who's written many, many books.
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She and I've been friends since we were literally in
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middle school. I don't know. I don't remember life before
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us being best friends. And I bought her her first,
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she wrote her first book, uh, was tarot for one.
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I bought her her first tarot deck for her 16th
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birthday party. And I bought it. And some people remember
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this and I'm sorry, but this really ages us. In
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the mall, there used to be a Discovery Channel store.
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Do you remember this?
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Oh, my God. You got it in a Discovery Channel store? Yes. Yes,
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I did.
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In a science, hear me, science Discovery Channel store. They
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had like a couple tarot decks. And she had seen one.
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And that's what she wanted. And I bought it for
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her 16th birthday. And so then we did what all 16-year-olds,
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you know, were worried about. Does this boy like me?
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What's going to happen? Does this, you know, why does
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this girl not like me? What's my future? Who am
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I going to met? You know, all the things. And
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I just that kind of that started kind of sparked that.
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And she she really went kind of heavy into witchcraft
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and learning about things and reading things and and joining
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groups and things like that. And I kind of would
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talk to her about things because the things that she
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would say and the things she would relate to me.
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like hit, they just made sense. And so I would
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talk to her about these things and I was like, yeah,
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that makes sense. And then there's this, and we just
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kind of had this intrinsic communication about it where we
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just kind of found ourselves learning more and more. She
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was really the only person I spoke to about it.
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It was kind of private. It wasn't something I talked
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about with other people. I did read my own books
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and things like that, but I was also learning about
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feng shui and aromatherapy. And crystals and palmistry, anything I
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could get my hands on. And just everything that I
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kept coming back to just was the witchy stuff. And
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she would come and she would visit me because, again,
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I'm referring to myself as spiritual. And she would laugh
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and she'd be like, you decorate your house with brooms. Yeah.
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A witchy thing, right? She'd just point to things and
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just be like, yeah, that's not witchy at all. And
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I just eventually I just kind of realized, you know,
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I just stopped. being afraid of embracing that title and
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instead found empowerment in that title. But it was something
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that just kind of came, it just kind of came
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about naturally by the things that resonated with me and
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the things that I learned about, the things that made
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sense and the things that stayed with me are the
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things that were much more kind of witchcraft centric.
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So what is, what is witchcraft to you? What is
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your definition of it?
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So, I try and explain to people because the term
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Wicca became very popular. Actually, I don't know if I
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want to say popular, but culturally understood that there was
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a thing called Wicca, say, in the 90s. Wicca is
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a practice of witchcraft that has certain dogmas and beliefs
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and structures and things like that. Not all people who
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consider themselves witches practice Wicca. So that's something I try
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and explain to people. Just like the umbrella of Christianity,
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there's people who consider themselves Presbyterians.
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big umbrella. Witchcraft is a big umbrella. So you can
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have people who practice all different kinds of witchcraft that
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exist under this umbrella. Witchcraft as a whole, for me,
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someone who is a witch would be someone who works
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with spells and works to make change through spells. To me,
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that would be if you have to kind of get
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to the nuts and bolts of, and so witchcraft would
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be their practice of that. So a witch is someone
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who uses spell work. And this is my opinion. This
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is not Webster's, you know, definition, but in my opinion
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is a witch is someone who practices magic and does
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spell work to make change. And so if you do that,
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you would fall kind of under that umbrella. And then,
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like I said, there's different, um, there's so many practices
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that people have that fall into the witchcraft umbrella, but that's,
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that's to me is kind of what, what makes a
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witch is. And, and when you look at that example,
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I have a lot of people who are like, well,
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I do this and I do this and I do that.
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you may not be calling it that, but that's, that's witchcraft.
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You're trying to manipulate energy. You're, you know, creating things
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and putting out intentions and taking steps to create change.
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Like that's, that's spellcasting. That's witchcraft.
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So you've, with that as the definition, it's been easy
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for you just to integrate this into what other people
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might look at as a ordinary life, right?
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Absolutely. Well, and, I think that, I think that we've
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reached a point in society and culture where people want
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to believe and want to understand and want to work
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towards making change and not just sitting back and believing that.
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They're at the mercy of whatever's going to happen.
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Right. That things will happen out of our control, but
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there are certain things within our control or certain things
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that we can work towards to make manifest or to
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make change. And people are finding that sense of wanting
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to be more empowered and feel like they can be
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a part of what's happening as opposed to having.
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To be at the mercy of whatever's happening.
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Which is another reason why witchcraft and this kind of
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magical work becomes very kind of culturally popular and people
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become very interested in times where women are, you know,
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suffering or being, you know, forced to feel like they
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are powerless. It's, it's one of those things where witchcraft
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is very much about self empowerment. It's about making change.
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It's about being confident. It's about self care and realizing
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that you can take care of yourself and And you
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can make change.
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And you do matter.
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And so if you look historically at times where society
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has kind of really leaned into this, it's often those
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times where women are feeling disenfranchised or feeling their power
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has been taken from them. And they need that reminder
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of they can still, you know, have that kind of self-empowerment.
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So are you pretty open where you live with what
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you do? Like when you're sitting behind your SUV waiting
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to pick your kids up? Do people in your community
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know that you do this or is this something that
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you're careful and protective of?
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I think that's a great, so I think that's a
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fun question because I think that there is, I always
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tell people when they're like, so does everybody know you're
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a witch? No, just like you don't necessarily know what you're,
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neighbor is, right? Like, unless the topic comes up, it's
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not something I don't walk around asking all my friends. So, Hey,
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what's your, what's your chosen religion, you know? it's unless
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I know someone really well. And at some point, we're
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having a philosophical conversation or something like that. It's not
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necessarily something that people know about me. And I, I
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think that was kind of another reason why for me,
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it was just kind of like, I felt like it
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had to be waved like a flag or something like
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that until I realized like, what is it?
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No one knows what anyone else is. Why would, why
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do I.
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Have to, you know, why would I have to be
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beholden to explain it to every single person that I
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run across? So the people who are closest to me, everybody,
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it's not, it's not a secret. And, uh, but what
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I say, I walked down.
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The street and people are like, Oh, she's a witch.
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She's a witchcraft. No, not at all.
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Uh, you know, that's one of the things it's, you know, I,
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I often will tell people because they also feel like
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very protective of their homes and your home is needs
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should be your safe space, your sacred space. People don't
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walk into my home. I know I'm a witch. Now
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the funny thing is the people who are witches who
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walk into my home, we'll look around and see all
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kinds of witchy stuff. But if someone doesn't know, right,
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they're just going to walk in and they put all
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this place is nice. But the thing that people always
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tell me is your home is so welcoming. I love
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your house. And I'm always just like, thank you. You know,
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They don't pick up on things, right? They just know
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that it's welcoming and cozy and friendly and warm. And
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so it's not something that everybody knows. It's not, I
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wouldn't say it's a secret, but I am lucky. And
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I talk to people often about the fact that I
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live in the Pacific Northwest. You know, keep Portland weird
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is a very real thing. We embrace our weirdness. We love.
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We love it. I mean, the element of weird you
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have to be when you're walking down the street for
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someone to even take notice is pretty extreme because we
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just love it. And we're just like, you do you,
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you know, it's great. That does not exist everywhere. And
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so I am very lucky and I am very blessed
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to live somewhere where I can kind of speak more
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freely on the topic than other people who I know
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other people who live in other parts of the country
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who have had careers ruined. who've lost jobs, who've had
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their personal lives threatened. It exists wildly in different cultural
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facets across the country. So I am lucky enough to
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live somewhere that I can be more open about discussing
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things like this. One of the things that was really
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funny was I took a friend to a camping event.
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It was a Sunfest camping event. Super fun. It used
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to go every year. I haven't been just because my
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kids are older now and eventually I'd like to go back.
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But we had this event that we would go to
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and I brought my friends and they looked around and
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they weren't, they came for me. They weren't practicing witch
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or pagan or anything like that. And I remember the
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first night and they looked at me and they go,
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it's just camping. And I laughed and I was like,
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what did you, what did you think it was going
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to be? You know what I mean? Like, cause then
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I was interested, right? Like, what did you think was
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going to happen?
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And they're like, I don't, I don't know.
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And they're like, but it's just, it's like camping with friends.
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And I was like, very much so. Like there's workshops
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and there's events and there's rituals that are optional. Right.
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And that's what I used to tell people is this
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can be as magically infused or as just relaxing and relaxing.
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being with kind of chosen family as you would like
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it to be. And I remember the other statement was,
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I'm pretty sure I saw one of my kids as teachers.
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And I know for a fact that that guy's a lawyer.
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And it's just like, again, it's that who did you
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think these people are? And I think that that is
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really important. I think that people don't understand is they
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think that people who practice magic or who practice witchcraft
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or things like that are these weird, strange, obscure people.
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And they don't realize that it could very well be
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one of the moms in the PTO, you know, or
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the kid that, you know, the mom that drives the
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kid's carpool, or your dentist, right? Or, you know, it's
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anyone and it's everyone. It's not an exclusionary practice. And
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so I always enjoy when I see people who have
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these preconceived notions kind of having to wash them away
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and realize like, oh, this is way more common than
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I thought. This is way more. I don't want to
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I don't know if I want to use the word normal,
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but like not it's not obscure. It's like I said,
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you're you're going to walk through the grocery store and
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you probably you're going to pass by probably at least
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a couple of people who practice some form of witchcraft
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or have some sort of spiritual magical practice. they just
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may not be wearing, you know, clothes that, that scream
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it or that you think that that's what they look like.
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And so it's, it's dispelling those myths of what witches
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look like, of how they live, of who they are.
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That's kind of, that for me is the fun part
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of this book is, is challenging those ideas that people
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have and showing them that it's anyone.
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And it's everyone.
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And no one is, no one is discluded from being
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able to have a magical practice.
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It's not just the women in long flowy clothing who
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have the, my other car is a broom bumper sticker.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I do know people like that. The, the, the ones
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who act as if, so you're describing.
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And I love that because there's a space for that,
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but that's not everyone.
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Oh, absolutely not. This is actually, it's a little early
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for a break, but it's a good spot in the
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conversation for a break. So, We're going to go ahead
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and take a couple of minutes off here. When we
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come back, we'll talk more in detail about the different
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things that you cover in the book. So thanks, everybody.
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Welcome back to Celestial Compass. We're talking today with Kanani Soleil,
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author of Witchcraft in the Cul-de-sac, Practicing Magic in Suburbia.
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And just before the break, you were mentioning, you know,
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being able to walk down, walking down the street and
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not knowing, being able to automatically know who does this
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and who doesn't. You might be surprised and you, could
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be passing by people in the grocery store, which leads
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me to, you have a very interesting, well, everything in
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your book is interesting, but the chapter or the section
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on supplies I found really, really helpful. So could you
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expand on that?
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Yeah.
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One of the things I talk about is how one
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of the benefits of being a witch in the suburbs
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is your ease of access to everything. You know, when
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oftentimes if you live in a very urban environment or
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a very rural environment, sometimes having things delivered can be difficult, right?
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Or things like that. And you may not be able
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to just walk.
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Somewhere and get something easily.
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Whereas in the suburbs, you can throw a rock and
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pretty much find your magical supplies wherever you're able to
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land because you're surrounded by grocery stores and big box
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stores and dollar stores and all kinds of different places
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that you may not think of when you think of
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buying your magical supplies. And so, you know, that's part
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of where I talk about a lot of people when
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they talk about wanting to maybe do something like this.
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They're like, I just don't have time.
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I don't have.
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Time to add more things to my you know real
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to-do list when would I have time to go buy
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magical supplies things like that you can get most of
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the herbs that you would want to get at a
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grocery store Most of the herbs that you might like
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to use in your witchcraft practice, you can buy and
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00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.269
just add to your grocery list and you can get
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it at the grocery store. You can find often candles
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and tea lights at the grocery store. You can often
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even find incense sticks at a grocery store. There's all
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kinds of different things that you don't necessarily need to get.
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I always talk about I love to buy witchcraft supplies
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from witchcraft stores and or witchcraft vendors that I see
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either at farmer's markets or vendor fairs or the stores
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that are around me because I kind of, I talk
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about it like it's, it's like a, it's a witch
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00:30:38.289 --> 00:30:41.950
life hack, like buying a cake mix, right? Like someone's
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00:30:42.029 --> 00:30:46.069
already done 80% of the work for you and they've
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00:30:46.089 --> 00:30:51.210
already pre-infused this with all this wonderful, magical energy and intense. So,
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You're already like a lot of the way there. And
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so I don't ever say like, it's not better to
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buy it from those places. It's pre-infused. To me, it's
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00:31:01.250 --> 00:31:04.220
like the cake mix version of the witchy life hack
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00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.500
of it's already been infused with these things. You don't
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00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:08.940
need to worry about doing that yourself.
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00:31:09.059 --> 00:31:09.720
So it's nice.
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However, in a pinch, you're like, oh no, I wanted
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00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.619
to do a full moon thing tonight. I forgot to
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00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.390
buy my white candle. You can get one at the
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grocery store. We need to go buy the groceries we
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were going to buy for dinner that night. Something like that. Like,
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00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:30.910
it is okay to get your supplies from a non-magical
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00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:34.470
place if that's where you need to get your supplies. Or,
506
00:31:34.569 --> 00:31:38.009
you know, to kind of cobble that together yourself. It
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00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:40.640
doesn't have to come from a magical store. Like I said,
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there's benefit. I love to do it. I buy it
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00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:43.720
all the time.
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00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:44.819
From magical supply places.
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Like I said, someone else has pre-infused it for me.
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00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.890
I love it. but I don't have to.
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00:31:50.009 --> 00:31:51.950
I also have other supplies that I use that I've
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00:31:52.049 --> 00:31:56.670
grown myself or that I've procured from, you know, inexpensive places,
515
00:31:57.069 --> 00:32:01.390
things like that. And so it's really not, especially in
516
00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:05.029
the suburbs, it's so easy to get your hands on.
517
00:32:07.569 --> 00:32:10.380
So it seems to me that, so you're talking about
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just doing what you already do and being able to
519
00:32:13.579 --> 00:32:16.380
work or pick up what you need. And I see
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00:32:16.420 --> 00:32:22.059
that as a corollary to, working magic into your daily life. Yes.
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00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.500
You have, you have a little, yeah, that's exactly it.
522
00:32:25.569 --> 00:32:28.029
That's exactly what my, I try and show in my
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00:32:28.089 --> 00:32:31.589
book is, is how things that you do every day
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00:32:31.710 --> 00:32:36.250
either already are magic or can be, you can incorporate
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00:32:36.289 --> 00:32:38.650
something to it to make it magic. So these are
526
00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:40.650
things you do every day. So you're not having to
527
00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:44.029
change your day because I've got two kids. I work, I'm,
528
00:32:44.390 --> 00:32:47.329
I am as busy as anybody. I don't have time.
529
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I do not have time. I hear people when they
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say that, which is where I'm saying, like, you can
531
00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:56.000
just do, just do you. And you add these little
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00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.680
tweaks and you've added magic to your everyday existence. Like
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00:33:00.740 --> 00:33:04.420
I have a coffee tea spell. Like a lot of people,
534
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the first thing I do every morning is literally stumble
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my way out of bed and zombie walk to the
536
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coffee pot to get, get my coffee fix. And I
537
00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:19.549
have a coffee tea spell where I give a mantra
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for if you're pouring in your creamer or your honey
539
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and you're stirring the creamer or the honey into your
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00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:31.410
tea and you stir it either clockwise or counterclockwise based
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on are you trying to manifest something? Are you trying
542
00:33:33.769 --> 00:33:36.190
to banish something? What do you say if you want
543
00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:38.369
to manifest something? What do you say if you want
544
00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:41.009
to banish something? And so it's something as little as
545
00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:44.049
stirring creamer in your coffee. That can be a spell.
546
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I mean, that's something that you're likely doing every single morning.
547
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And it's adding those little things, like things you can
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00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:55.069
do when you're taking a shower, ways you can incorporate
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00:33:55.109 --> 00:33:58.390
shower magic, things that you can do in your everyday
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life that you don't need to add to your place.
551
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.460
And the other thing that I like to tell people is, well,
552
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what better way to get good at something than repetition?
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And our routines are our rituals, right? doesn't have to
554
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be something elaborate. It doesn't have to have a lot
555
00:34:18.610 --> 00:34:20.210
of people think of a ritual and they think, okay,
556
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.570
you need all of these supplies. You need to say
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these things, you know, you need to, you need to
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00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:26.889
call the corners. You need to do this. You need
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to do that. Not always, not always, you know, like
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I said, a ritual can simply be, you can have
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a coffee, coffee ritual and how you stir your coffee
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and what you say. You can have a shower ritual.
563
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You can have a, uh, um, I've got like how to,
564
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how you can wash your car. to like do a blessings,
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you know, protection spell, you know, all kinds of things, right.
566
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That you don't think of how to, uh, be more
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intentional with your food, how to work magic into, into
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cooking and things like that. How to infuse magic. When
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you bought takeout, we don't always have time to cook.
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Sometimes we're headed from school to soccer practice to this
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practice to that practice. We didn't, we don't have time
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to cook. We got a couple of minutes. We got
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something to go. How do you infuse some magic in that?
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And so just things like that to help people understand
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that this is something that you can work into your
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everyday life and include as part of just your daily routine.
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Because like I said, your routine is your rituals. They're
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your daily rituals. And how do you infuse a little
579
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bit of magic into those things you do every day
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to add some magic to your life? and bring in
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that ability to manifest and create.
582
00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:52.809
It doesn't have to all be high church at all,
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at all.
584
00:35:53.989 --> 00:35:54.730
Exactly.
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And there's no right or wrong way, right? Your intention
586
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is a big guiding force in this.
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I think, I mean, I think to me, a spell
588
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is something that requires intention and action, right? So intention is,
589
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.250
is not enough. You need to be doing something, right?
590
00:36:18.329 --> 00:36:23.349
So it can't just be, it needs to be an
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00:36:23.429 --> 00:36:26.530
intention followed by an action. So sometimes the action is,
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you know, lighting a candle to release the energy. Sometimes
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the action is, you know, writing something on a piece
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of paper and then burning it. Sometimes the action is,
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00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:42.860
like I always tell people with love magic, You can't
596
00:36:42.929 --> 00:36:45.880
just do a love spell and then sit on your
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00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:49.139
couch and watch Netflix and wait for Mr. Right to
598
00:36:49.179 --> 00:36:50.880
show up on the door. That's not how this works, right?
599
00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:53.900
Now you need to take action. You've put out into
600
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.159
the universe what you want, what you're looking for, what
601
00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:58.019
you're hoping to achieve. Now you need to meet people.
602
00:36:58.949 --> 00:37:00.590
You actually have to talk to people. It sucks. I
603
00:37:00.610 --> 00:37:05.309
get it. You know, strangers, you know, but you can't.
604
00:37:05.630 --> 00:37:10.630
It's not a magical wish. It has to have intention
605
00:37:10.650 --> 00:37:13.050
and And then there needs to be some action to
606
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:18.019
make that intention come to fruition. And so, you know,
607
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.739
just like if if you're looking for a new job,
608
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you know, you have you know, you're going to do
609
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.460
your spell to do a new job, but you're also
610
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.119
going to have to apply to jobs. You can't not
611
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.369
apply to jobs and then wonder why you're not getting
612
00:37:30.409 --> 00:37:33.230
this job that you did a spell to get. It
613
00:37:33.309 --> 00:37:39.050
requires it requires action and it requires, you know, kind
614
00:37:39.110 --> 00:37:41.719
of you have a personal stake in the game. So
615
00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:45.699
while the universe may help bring you opportunities, you need
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00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.570
to be out ready to accept those opportunities. If you're
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not available for opportunities, then the universe can't present them
618
00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:55.530
to you. So it is a lot, a lot, a
619
00:37:55.570 --> 00:37:58.929
lot about intent, but intent itself is not enough.
620
00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.900
Oh, I wasn't implying that that's all it is, but
621
00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:04.460
it makes sense.
622
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:05.860
Oh yeah, no, absolutely.
623
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:05.960
Yeah.
624
00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:06.280
Yeah.
625
00:38:06.539 --> 00:38:10.119
Yeah, absolutely. Um, Well, let's talk about like protecting your home,
626
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.469
for example, or yourself or your car. Uh, cause you can,
627
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.010
magic isn't just trying to make something, well, an outer
628
00:38:17.070 --> 00:38:21.090
event happen, but create a, a condition. So protection magic
629
00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:24.510
would be creating a condition, right? Sort of. Sure.
630
00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:29.269
Yeah. Protection magic is, yeah, you're, you're, you're not trying
631
00:38:29.309 --> 00:38:31.989
to create change per se, but you are trying to
632
00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:37.289
create kind of an energy, um, of protection. And either
633
00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:41.969
around yourself, around your home, you know, around your car,
634
00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:48.050
you know, things like that. Protection magic, I think, is
635
00:38:48.139 --> 00:38:51.559
really helpful because I think it also works with people's
636
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:58.460
concept of self-care and understanding that it is important that
637
00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:03.300
we are kind of clearing the space around us and
638
00:39:03.340 --> 00:39:06.389
making sure that we are in a safe space. right?
639
00:39:06.429 --> 00:39:10.789
That we're cognizant of, of where we are and where
640
00:39:10.829 --> 00:39:14.699
we exist and what we allow in that space. And so, yeah,
641
00:39:14.860 --> 00:39:19.159
I definitely, I have, I have, uh, different things that
642
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:25.050
I do for, for protecting the house for adding, I have, um,
643
00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:28.590
I have Florida water that I keep by my front door.
644
00:39:28.610 --> 00:39:32.880
And so I will often do like a salt water
645
00:39:32.909 --> 00:39:35.860
that I put on my doormat and I'll do it
646
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.199
around my house. But I also frequently do it on
647
00:39:38.219 --> 00:39:41.900
my doormat just so that people who are of ill
648
00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:45.980
intent or not wanting to come and bring anything good
649
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.889
to the situation, just don't feel comfortable they just don't
650
00:39:49.909 --> 00:39:52.909
want to be there. So maybe they'll even walk up
651
00:39:52.949 --> 00:39:54.670
to my door, but they'll just get this feeling of
652
00:39:54.730 --> 00:39:58.429
unease and just want to leave. Um, and then I,
653
00:39:58.710 --> 00:40:01.780
I oftentimes, like if I have a friend who comes over,
654
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who's in a really rough space, we're having a really
655
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.119
hard time and I'm there for them and, and whatnot.
656
00:40:09.260 --> 00:40:10.840
And we talk it out and there's just a lot
657
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of big energy when they leave. I have Florida water
658
00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:17.500
that I'll spray to kind of help release the, that
659
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.139
negativity and that negative kind of chaotic energy kind of
660
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.940
back out of the house and kind of cleanse the
661
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.849
house so that it has, you know, it's not maintaining
662
00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:33.789
that anxiety within it to kind of allow it to
663
00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:37.030
keep staying a safe, warm space for people. So it's like,
664
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it's not about not bringing that stuff in because like
665
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I said, sometimes it's a friend who needs someone to
666
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talk to. They need to bring that in. That's good.
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00:40:46.059 --> 00:40:47.929
You can help them. And then you want to help
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00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.090
that energy leave so that it doesn't kind of stay
669
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and permeate the house so that everyone is kind of
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left with this sense of unease.
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00:41:00.340 --> 00:41:02.699
It seems to me, so just thinking of other things
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that you cover in the book, it seems to me
673
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that a lot of things that we associate with various
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holidays and traditions might be cloaked witchcraft. Like we probably
675
00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:17.989
are doing things have been for a long time without
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putting that label on it.
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A hundred percent, a hundred percent. It makes, I mean, you,
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00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:27.260
you see it every, I mean, everywhere you go now,
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which makes me laugh. I mean, you're hard pressed to
680
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walk into stores anymore that don't have tarot cards, that
681
00:41:34.380 --> 00:41:38.829
don't have candles for purification. Right. And they call them
682
00:41:38.869 --> 00:41:43.889
aromatherapy candles, right? They have the, there's candles now there's,
683
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There's the tarot cards. There's the candles. There's what was
684
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.059
the other thing I was thinking of that I just
685
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.880
saw the crystals everywhere. Crystals everywhere. I see. I went
686
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.960
over to someone's house who claims to be just kind
687
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of stonily anti witchcraft. And they had a sage bundle
688
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.320
in their kitchen. And I'm like, I don't know what
689
00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:10.409
to do with this. I don't know how to process
690
00:42:10.449 --> 00:42:13.769
this for you. You know, it's just. It makes me
691
00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:18.280
laugh because there are so many things that are witchcraft,
692
00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:23.840
that are spells. And I had this conversation with someone
693
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and thankfully they were very open-minded. And so they understood,
694
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.159
but I'm like, when people think about prayers and they
695
00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:35.860
think about sending someone love and healing energy, right? When
696
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they hear someone's ill. And so they're sending them And
697
00:42:40.349 --> 00:42:47.659
they say, I'm sending you healing energy. I'm sending you love. That's,
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00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:53.579
you know, that's witchcraft. That's, you know, you are sending energy.
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00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:59.949
You are intentionally sending positive energy, healing energy, love. You know,
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I'm not someone who's always loved light, but that is
701
00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:08.769
definitely a part of it is you're sending that. And that,
702
00:43:09.929 --> 00:43:13.659
there's so many of these things that people do and
703
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.079
they should do, and they're wonderful to do, but a
704
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hundred percent, this is witchcraft. You're practicing witchcraft. And I
705
00:43:20.019 --> 00:43:23.409
think that that's one of the reasons why so many,
706
00:43:23.550 --> 00:43:30.469
and also it works. That's why it's becoming so culturally
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normal and popular is because people are using, they're learning
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00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.980
how to use crystals. They're learning how to use candles.
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00:43:37.340 --> 00:43:41.219
They're learning how fragrance and scent and aromatherapy can affect
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00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:45.079
your mood and how it can change and shape a space.
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00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.449
They're learning that these things are real and true and helpful.
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And so it's becoming a part of the cultural norm.
713
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But the reality is these are things that, you know,
714
00:43:56.869 --> 00:43:59.809
20 years ago would have been like, well, you can't
715
00:43:59.849 --> 00:44:00.110
do that.
716
00:44:00.150 --> 00:44:00.789
That's witchcraft.
717
00:44:03.670 --> 00:44:05.829
Well, witchcraft works. Yeah.
718
00:44:07.389 --> 00:44:11.909
So this leads me into something that I have very
719
00:44:12.010 --> 00:44:15.559
strong feelings about. I'm in a part of the country
720
00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:21.010
where there are a lot of self-proclaimed witches running around,
721
00:44:21.369 --> 00:44:22.010
or people who.
722
00:44:23.690 --> 00:44:26.210
Want to at least act like it. And there's a
723
00:44:26.510 --> 00:44:29.590
growing community of it. It's on the outskirt, it's outside
724
00:44:29.630 --> 00:44:32.849
of New York City in northwestern New Jersey, which is
725
00:44:32.869 --> 00:44:36.730
a spot I never thought I would find this before.
726
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:40.409
And there's a bit of trendiness to it, I am finding.
727
00:44:40.949 --> 00:44:45.110
But I'm seeing this on social media as well. And
728
00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:47.280
I'm seeing a lot of stuff on social media that
729
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.690
makes my naturally lifting eyebrow go almost off of my forehead.
730
00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:56.369
I'm just wondering, what do you think about the prevalence
731
00:44:57.349 --> 00:45:03.570
of people talking about magic and witchcraft on social media? Anything.
732
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:12.900
Oh, that's such a big feelings question. My overall feeling
733
00:45:13.659 --> 00:45:21.300
about witchcraft being discussed like in pop culture, in society,
734
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:28.139
I think it's a net positive because the more people
735
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.179
learn about something, the less they understand it's fearful. I
736
00:45:31.219 --> 00:45:34.929
would much prefer people find it stupid or trivial or
737
00:45:35.050 --> 00:45:39.489
silly than that they're afraid of it, that they're afraid
738
00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:42.630
that these are awful people doing awful things, doing scary things,
739
00:45:42.690 --> 00:45:47.820
working with this Christian devil that is not a part of,
740
00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:50.989
of the practice, things like that. I would much rather
741
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:56.269
them find it trivial than that. They are, like I said,
742
00:45:56.349 --> 00:45:59.909
terrified of it because that's dangerous. And that makes people
743
00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:05.090
dangerous and behave in scary ways. So I find it's
744
00:46:05.130 --> 00:46:07.079
a net positive kind.
745
00:46:06.909 --> 00:46:08.300
Of the more exposure it gets.
746
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.500
That being said, it does not mean, and that's something
747
00:46:15.539 --> 00:46:18.079
I have to explain to people. is that doesn't mean
748
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.639
that it does not have, uh, there, there's also a
749
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.900
misconception that the people who practice this, because it tends
750
00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:30.769
to be a very progressive, uh, spirituality that they're all
751
00:46:30.809 --> 00:46:38.369
safe or that they're all nice. Um, and unfortunately I've
752
00:46:38.469 --> 00:46:42.219
seen a lot of things in, uh, I see it
753
00:46:42.260 --> 00:46:44.570
a lot and it, and it, I just, I chase
754
00:46:44.610 --> 00:46:45.789
my head because I don't know what to do with
755
00:46:45.849 --> 00:46:47.929
it where people like, I've been doing this for three years.
756
00:46:48.949 --> 00:46:50.969
I know exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm, I
757
00:46:50.969 --> 00:46:53.190
don't know what to do with that. You know what
758
00:46:53.210 --> 00:46:55.150
I mean? I'm like, that doesn't even make sense. And
759
00:46:55.190 --> 00:46:57.510
you said it out loud as if it meant anything,
760
00:46:58.139 --> 00:47:00.480
you know, it's, and it's not to say that someone
761
00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:03.760
who's practiced for three years can't know something, but, but
762
00:47:03.900 --> 00:47:07.099
people learn a little bit about something and then they
763
00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:09.070
speak on it with their whole chest.
764
00:47:09.730 --> 00:47:09.829
Yep.
765
00:47:10.949 --> 00:47:16.329
And that is very, um, I think that more for
766
00:47:16.369 --> 00:47:22.079
me just speaks more to humans, natural hubris and ego,
767
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.440
which is, you know, just in all humans, right. Where
768
00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:30.559
they're just, it can get, it can get wild. It
769
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.699
can get wild. I've definitely seen things, um, that make
770
00:47:36.739 --> 00:47:41.619
me go, whoa. And, and so I think in general,
771
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.900
having it be open and talked about and something that's
772
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.760
kind of out there in the ether, I think is
773
00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:49.780
really good, but that does not mean, like I said,
774
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.199
that people won't kind of go to it and who
775
00:47:53.550 --> 00:47:59.909
are troubled or, you know, giving kind of misguided information
776
00:47:59.989 --> 00:48:05.369
or incorrect information. The one thing of, of I have,
777
00:48:05.949 --> 00:48:07.929
I am close to and have friends with and have
778
00:48:07.989 --> 00:48:14.670
worked with and know so many incredible magical practitioners, witches,
779
00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:19.369
people kind of in this realm, and none of them
780
00:48:19.969 --> 00:48:24.019
have ever said, you have to believe this.
781
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:25.340
Right.
782
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.579
This is the only.
783
00:48:27.420 --> 00:48:28.380
Way that this is done.
784
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:36.880
Because that, to have the hubris to say that, You're
785
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.980
not all with it. You know what I mean? Like
786
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.880
you're a person. And so you can say, this is
787
00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:44.840
what I do. And this is what has worked for me.
788
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.050
And that is what I try and do. This is
789
00:48:48.110 --> 00:48:50.730
what I do. This is what works for me. This
790
00:48:50.789 --> 00:48:52.949
is what I've done. It would be awesome if at
791
00:48:52.989 --> 00:48:55.929
least some of this worked for you too. It may
792
00:48:55.969 --> 00:48:58.329
not all work for you because we're not the same person.
793
00:48:59.230 --> 00:49:04.920
But My first inclination, anytime I come up against someone
794
00:49:05.019 --> 00:49:10.260
who tries to say, this is it, this is the
795
00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:14.449
only way, I've already tuned them out. And I've already said, Ooh,
796
00:49:14.530 --> 00:49:18.489
you are not, you are not a safe person. You are,
797
00:49:18.710 --> 00:49:23.880
you are not doing anybody any favors. Um, and, uh,
798
00:49:23.940 --> 00:49:27.739
I talk about a lot in my interviews. I mentioned that, um,
799
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.840
one of my favorite and early on books was drawing
800
00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:34.940
down the moon by Margo Adler. And she wrote that
801
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.960
book in a very kind of NPR reporter type way.
802
00:49:38.059 --> 00:49:41.119
I recommend that book to anyone that's really cool and interesting.
803
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:43.480
And one of the things she talks about is one
804
00:49:43.500 --> 00:49:47.320
of the reasons that spirituality and paganism and this kind
805
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.659
of a practice exists and has existed for thousands of years,
806
00:49:53.380 --> 00:49:57.409
well before there was organized religion, is because if you
807
00:49:57.429 --> 00:50:00.090
talk to 100 people and you say, what is paganism?
808
00:50:00.969 --> 00:50:03.750
You're going to get a similar answer, but you're going
809
00:50:03.769 --> 00:50:06.329
to get 100 different answers. They're not all going to
810
00:50:06.349 --> 00:50:11.070
be the same. And that fluidity is and an ability
811
00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:13.849
for it to be personal and ability for it to
812
00:50:13.949 --> 00:50:20.300
evolve with times is what allows it to continue and
813
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:27.880
grow and really be a force. And so I think
814
00:50:27.940 --> 00:50:31.250
also because that was so integral in my beginning, I
815
00:50:31.289 --> 00:50:33.429
don't have space for someone who's going to sit here
816
00:50:33.469 --> 00:50:36.289
and dictate to me. I know the way, this is
817
00:50:36.349 --> 00:50:39.159
the way, this is the way to do it because I,
818
00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:43.460
that's great for you, but that doesn't mean it's going
819
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:49.119
to work for a hundred other people. And so it's, yeah,
820
00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:53.650
witchcraft on social media is, it's interesting. It can be
821
00:50:53.670 --> 00:50:57.429
really fun, but I have definitely found myself in some
822
00:50:57.550 --> 00:51:00.650
kind of rabbit holes of wowza.
823
00:51:01.690 --> 00:51:04.260
That's a very polite way of putting it. I really
824
00:51:04.300 --> 00:51:09.190
take issue with irresponsible people. behavior online, which is, I mean,
825
00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.730
there's a lot in the astrology community, people who know
826
00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:15.510
a tiny bit and act like this is the gospel.
827
00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:17.170
So it's a similar thing.
828
00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:23.059
Yeah, very much so. I had a really interesting experience.
829
00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:25.619
It was about 20 years ago and there was a
830
00:51:25.619 --> 00:51:28.639
witchcraft shop that was opening near my work. And I
831
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.940
was so excited because I didn't have that many then.
832
00:51:33.510 --> 00:51:35.630
That were that close to my house. And I didn't
833
00:51:35.650 --> 00:51:36.809
know of any near my work. So I was like
834
00:51:36.849 --> 00:51:38.030
oh my gosh. This is where I'm going to spend
835
00:51:38.050 --> 00:51:39.949
my lunch breaks. This is the best thing that's ever
836
00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:40.469
happened to me.
837
00:51:40.489 --> 00:51:42.510
And I went into the shop.
838
00:51:43.409 --> 00:51:48.099
And it was beautiful. And fun. But the woman who
839
00:51:48.139 --> 00:51:50.699
worked there. Who was the owner. Because I know at
840
00:51:50.739 --> 00:51:52.960
one point she mentioned. She was talking about her shop.
841
00:51:53.019 --> 00:51:55.500
She just opened things like that. And she was talking
842
00:51:55.579 --> 00:51:59.179
to another guest that was there. And every time she
843
00:51:59.219 --> 00:52:03.320
came in with an earshot. My ears plugged up. Like
844
00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:06.639
I was on a plane and I was like that.
845
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.739
And at first, you know, cause especially when you're early
846
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.590
in your practice, you don't pick up on things real quick.
847
00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:13.070
I'm like, that's what, that's weird. I must be getting
848
00:52:13.110 --> 00:52:14.730
a cold. So I'm trying to pop my ears. I'm
849
00:52:14.750 --> 00:52:16.289
trying to pop my ears. My ears would, she'd walk
850
00:52:16.329 --> 00:52:17.170
away and my ears would pop.
851
00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:19.130
I'd be looking, this is so fun.
852
00:52:19.150 --> 00:52:19.690
This is so great.
853
00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:20.269
I love the store.
854
00:52:20.750 --> 00:52:22.730
She'd come within earshot again and I'd hear her. And
855
00:52:22.750 --> 00:52:25.309
then all of a sudden my ears would plug and
856
00:52:25.349 --> 00:52:29.500
it would just be like, and after, you know, and again,
857
00:52:29.619 --> 00:52:31.800
I'm in my twenties, so I don't listen well. So
858
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.820
it took a few times of this happening before I
859
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:38.219
got the clue of this is not someone you should
860
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:43.179
be listening to. This isn't the shop for you. And
861
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:47.389
I never went back to the shop. And so I
862
00:52:47.690 --> 00:52:53.309
will notice that if I'm around people, sometimes the tell
863
00:52:53.510 --> 00:52:57.050
is that I'll have a really hard time understanding them.
864
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.679
Like unusually so. And so then that's my tell, that's
865
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.170
my clue of, I don't think you need to hear
866
00:53:05.190 --> 00:53:07.889
what they're saying. I don't think this is, this isn't
867
00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:11.190
someone you should listen to. And so.
868
00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:14.550
Well, I'm going to have to wrap this up. Unfortunately,
869
00:53:14.570 --> 00:53:17.250
we're coming to the end of our time. I want
870
00:53:17.269 --> 00:53:20.190
to thank you very, very much for taking the time.
871
00:53:20.429 --> 00:53:22.159
Would you tell people again what the title of your
872
00:53:22.179 --> 00:53:22.579
book is?
873
00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:26.239
Yes, my book is called Witchcraft in the Cult of Sack,
874
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.320
Practicing Magic in Suburbia. And it is a book about
875
00:53:31.010 --> 00:53:35.670
Essentially just how to incorporate spells and magic and witchcraft
876
00:53:35.710 --> 00:53:40.800
into your everyday fabulous suburban existence. And that you are
877
00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:44.659
not discluded from this wonderful magical world that we can
878
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.800
all live in every single day just because you love living.
879
00:53:47.619 --> 00:53:48.159
In the suburbs.
880
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:50.940
And it's published by Llewellyn, right?
881
00:53:51.659 --> 00:53:52.119
It is.
882
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:54.940
And where can people find you online?
883
00:53:56.420 --> 00:54:00.769
I am at suburbanwitchlady.com. I am also at Suburban Witch
884
00:54:00.869 --> 00:54:06.000
Lady on Instagram. And the book will be in store
885
00:54:06.059 --> 00:54:12.539
shelves as of the 8th at Amazon, at Barnes & Noble,
886
00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:19.130
at Books A Million, and a myriad of other bookstores,
887
00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:21.769
mom and pop bookstores. If it's not in your bookstore,
888
00:54:21.829 --> 00:54:24.110
let them know because it's available for them to have
889
00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:26.789
in their store. I also have been encouraging people, if
890
00:54:26.849 --> 00:54:29.730
it's not at your local library, You can also fill
891
00:54:29.769 --> 00:54:31.639
out a form and they'll get it in the library
892
00:54:31.889 --> 00:54:33.480
and then you can check it out and it can
893
00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:35.880
be there for anyone who wants to check out an
894
00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:40.179
awesome witchcraft book. So yeah, it should be available everywhere.
895
00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:41.739
Excellent.
896
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.269
I also mentioned bookshop.org. If you have a local bookstore,
897
00:54:45.309 --> 00:54:48.170
you can order it through bookshop.org and give that bookstore
898
00:54:48.590 --> 00:54:51.869
credit for it. So that's a big thing. Anyway, thank
899
00:54:51.889 --> 00:54:54.809
you very, very much. This has been fascinating. I wish
900
00:54:54.829 --> 00:54:58.840
you great success with the book. And everyone else, remember
901
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:06.460
that my forecasts are at empowermentunlimited.net, the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel,
902
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:12.070
and also OM Times, where there's a guide to Mercury retrograde.
903
00:55:12.170 --> 00:55:15.590
We've got one coming up really soon. So make use
904
00:55:15.630 --> 00:55:19.789
of this Venus retrograde, everybody. It's spooky season today. for
905
00:55:19.869 --> 00:55:23.239
real right now, go into your own darkness, make friends
906
00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:26.659
with the goddess archetype within you, figure out what's most
907
00:55:26.739 --> 00:55:30.579
important to you, and let that guide you through no
908
00:55:30.619 --> 00:55:33.579
matter what you think is going on out in the world,
909
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.079
because it may not be what it looks like. So
910
00:55:36.219 --> 00:55:39.059
thank you again very, very much, Kanani, for joining us.
911
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.110
And I'll see everybody again in a couple of weeks
912
00:55:43.210 --> 00:55:47.769
with a hereditary witch colleague of mine. Imagine... growing up
913
00:55:47.869 --> 00:55:51.429
in a family with this as your tradition. Okay. Bye now.
914
00:55:52.550 --> 00:55:53.469
Thank you. Bye.
915
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:11.630
Thank you.
916
00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:41.699
Thank you.