Marvel, Please Change Spider-Man

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Hello everybody, my name is Paul.
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My name's Clayton.
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And you're listening to the Beyond the Foolest podcast.
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Hey, this is a big one, Paul.
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1,000.
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One episode 1,000.
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Dude, this is the 1,000th episode.
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Yeah.
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We just missed like 950, 40, 30 some episodes.
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I don't even think we have that many.
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This is episode 17.
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Yeah.
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So But we are reviewing Amazing Spider-Man in a thousand.
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That is how many episodes of that comic have come out already.
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Yes.
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Do you remember when you're like, that's a thousand months?
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I didn't say that, didn't I?
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It's literally a thousand.
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Well, also, apparently it's uh it's not right.
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It's not right.
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Yeah, apparently they messed up the I don't know, man.
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They model doesn't care.
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They don't care.
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I didn't even think, well, Amazing Fantasy got uh uh Amazing Fantasy a thousand.
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Yeah, didn't it get a thousand issues?
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And it's like, brother, didn't you stop at 15?
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And if you didn't, nobody cares about anything that happens after 15.
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I didn't even know they were still coming.
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But hello everybody.
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Yes, we are we've got a big week.
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Um this was uh usually we don't record this much.
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We this is like I don't think we've ever recorded like two weeks in a week.
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Maybe.
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Maybe we we've got October is gonna be a big month for the Beyond the Pools podcast.
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Yes.
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Um we are not only gonna be reviewing today um Amazing Spider-Man uh thousand, you've got the finale of Queen in Black and Venom 262.
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Uh so we wanted to make sure we got this in, but we also are planning on doing our Clayface review.
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Yep.
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And uh which we still need to order our tickets for.
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We'll do that today.
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That was we're gonna do that today.
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That was on the agenda before we recorded, but obviously we forgot.
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Dang it.
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And then there's a lot to talk about.
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Yes, and then we have Absolute Batman 25 coming out this year.
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Yeah.
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Charles or this month.
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Charles Sowell starts uh his Venom run this month.
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Yep.
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I mean, this is a big month, so there's gonna be a lot of big stuff for the Beyond the Pull list, and we might have a big announcement at the end of the month.
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We may have a big announcement.
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I I forgot about that.
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But we can't say anything until then.
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I don't know what we're talking about.
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Me neither.
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Big announcement.
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Paul delete this.
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Um but yeah, but uh speaking of Clayface, did you see the popcorn bucket cup?
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Yes.
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Did you see the cup?
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You know, I did see them both because you know why?
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You sent them to me.
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Don't do this.
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I know I'm bad.
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I know I'm so bad at answering my text.
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It's so bad.
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I'll send him stuff.
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But also, I want you to know this is with everybody.
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This is not just a I know, I know, I know.
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It's a I've been friends with you for almost 10 years.
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I know.
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I know.
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I'll be like, I'll be, I'll send something to somebody, and some will go, bro, read your chats.
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Yeah.
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Do you not read the chat?
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I literally sent that to you a week ago, and I'm like, oh, I thought I sent you something cool.
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And what's crazy, there's some posts that you sent me going back and looking through them today.
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There was some that you sent me that I was like, I almost sent that to you today.
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And I literally just like got sidetracked and like I'm like a like I'm like a dog.
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Like I'll just like I'll be like one thing, and then I'll just be like, oh, what's over there?
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Yeah, ooh, squirrel.
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Like I'm just like all over the place and I can't stay locked into one thing.
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Yeah.
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But you know what?
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We're we're we're we're doing yeah, hey, hey, listen.
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Today is the last day of me having distress, hopefully.
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That I hope.
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That's the fingers are crossed.
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Yes.
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You know, knock on wood.
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That's me knocking on the table that's made of wood.
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And uh we'll we'll get into a lot today.
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But yes, this month is gonna be huge.
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The biggest.
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Quite big.
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Muy grande.
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Muy grande.
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Big all right.
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But here's how we're gonna do today's episode.
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Um, we're gonna do it similar to the way that we normally do it.
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Um, we're gonna have our breakdown and review of Amazing Spider-Man 1000.
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We're gonna go through each story because this issue is a celebration of a thousand issues of Spider-Man.
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So there are eight stories in this issue.
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We're gonna go through each one of them.
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Uh, we're gonna rely more on memory as we talk about this rather than going panel by panel.
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I know uh sometimes when you guys listen, we break down an issue more so panel by panel.
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Um, but we're gonna try to rely more on memory for Amazing Spider-Man a thousand, since it literally just came out yesterday as of the time of this recording.
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So if we can't remember, then we probably need to be in a nursing home or something.
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Well, also our uh our store ran out.
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So we we you Clayton didn't get one.
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This is the first week where I don't have a physical copy, and you do.
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I my like all like we at our little table we have like little comic stands where we always have like I'll I'll save like two for me and two for Clayton.
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All four of them are for me this week.
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Well, one of us for both of us, but the other three are for me.
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And then I I have a weekly poll book uh that came out this week, but I'm not gonna talk about it.
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And that's not because I don't want to talk about it, it is because um Paul's not caught up, and that is Geiger 25.
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Uh, and I know there's several of you, uh Abdullah uh and Logan, you both have mentioned that you guys are going to start reading Geiger.
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Abdullah, I know you have started it.
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Uh Logan, you said you want to.
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Um, and and many other people have told me that I we got them started on Geiger.
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And I and so I didn't want to spoil that yet.
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I wanted to give it a little bit more time for people to get caught up, uh, especially since a Netflix show has been announced.
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I saw that.
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Uh so there are I so I have nothing I'm gonna talk about because I have nothing outside of Geiger.
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Um, but you have a big week.
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It's a big week for me.
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Yeah, and as we've already established, you're gonna go over the ending of Al Ewing's Venom.
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Yep.
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This is the official end of his run.
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And then we have some Star Wars news, which I know you just love Star Wars now, Paul.
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Yay.
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This is this is the biggest news, so stay tuned.
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You know, I've I've been sitting and hoping for this for all of negative 20 minutes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which means I've not been hoping for this at all.
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Especially the news that we have to share.
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Yes, yes.
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Um, which I'm interested to hear what you have to say because it doesn't seem like you're excited either.
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I have thoughts.
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I guess we'll get to it then.
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My brain works for these.
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I want that on a shirt.
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My brain works for these.
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My brain works sometimes.
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Sometimes.
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Only sometimes.
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Mine would say my brain works, but works would be misspelled.
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It'd be like W-U-R-K-X.
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Yeah.
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So let's let's get into it.
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I wish we had like a little button we could press, like wait for it.
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Wait, future Paul.
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Roll it.
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There we go.
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He did it.
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Good job, future Paul.
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Did you write down the timestamp?
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No.
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Six minutes and 40 seconds.
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Let me write that down, Ruby.
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You're future Paul will thank you.
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Yes, thank you.
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Thank you, future Paul.
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You're welcome, Bash Paul.
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So, anyways, um, so this is Amazing Spider-Man a thousand.
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So uh this is picking up um Joe Kelly's story that he's been writing uh what since like what nine writing seventy something?
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Uh I don't remember when he started.
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It was when Marvel did their like it was the weird relaunch.
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Um so it was kind of like they relaunched all their books.
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They relaunched everything to number ones again, but nothing all the stories were still continuing.
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They just started with a new number one.
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Um it was the little gimmick thing that they did.
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But wow, Marvel doing a gimmick?
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That's so surprising.
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Crazy.
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Yeah, because Al Ewing kept writing Venom and then uh uh Zeb Wells moved it over to Joe Kelly, which they were already working together, right?
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I'm pretty sure.
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Yeah, I think they were already working together.
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Joe Kelly took over on 965.
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965.
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Wow.
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So how many that's what 40 five issues ago.
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Yeah, that's wild.
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Yeah.
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So so man, that doesn't feel very difficult.
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Well, 36 issues.
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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That feels really wild.
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But um But he started in 2025, so how does that make sense?
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Um honestly, I I want to say that this stuff started in 2025.
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Yeah, April 9th, 2025.
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So they were they were pushing out they were pushing out two issues a month.
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Um uh Death Spiral, I bet.
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Because that was like every other week was a was a they were going back and forth because Venom would do one week and then Spider-Man would do the next, and then Venom would do a week, and then Spider-Man would do the next.
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So they were like going back and forth between the two.
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So that's probably where it's been.
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But I don't know, maybe they sped things up or something.
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Maybe they just love Joe Kelly so much that they're like, we really want you to do a thousand.
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Can you write faster?
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Yeah.
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Like write even faster.
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Now, now we will say this.
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Me and Clayton have not been pulling Amazing.
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No.
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We of course we only pulled this to talk about it because it is the a thousandth issue issue.
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And I remember both of us working at the comic book store.
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You if you've listened to our retro review episode on uh Amazing Spider-Man 800, at that same time we were talking about like, oh, if 800's this good, I wonder what issue a thousand's gonna be.
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And boy sometimes foreshadowing is foreshadowing is rather rather obvious.
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Um no, I it I I'm excited to talk about this.
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Um this is a different uh marker issue.
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This is less less uh less of a continuous story like 800 was.
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This is more this is Marvel and I guess DC really their new style of doing celebration issues, of doing a you have a main story and then you have a bunch of back stories.
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Which again, this this this issue, which we'll get into, solves one of the issues that we both have consistently had with those types of issues.
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Yes.
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Um, but it's still kinda eh.
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Give or take.
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Yeah, you know.
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Some some stories are are really good.
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And there are some stories that are like I can't.
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I can leave without this, yeah.
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And and and again, like uh, which I well, the first story we're gonna talk about is called Ravenged, which is the main title storyline, um, which has been noted that Spider-Man's life will change forever.
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Every promotion, yeah, every promotion at at what D23, at San Diego Comic-Con, at everything uh since a thousand has been announced.
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I even think it's on the like the solicitations like to order.
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It's like this issue will change Peter Parker's life forever.
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Yeah.
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Does it?
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Doesn't really feel like it.
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No, so let's go.
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You want to go through the story?
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I say let's get straight into it.
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Okay, let's get straight into issue a thousand.
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So picking off picking up from the story is uh apparently in 999 there was uh Aunt May had a stroke.
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And Aunt May is now in the hospital.
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And Peter is just swinging through the city to get to her as fast as he possibly can, and all he can think about is how Aunt May had a stroke, and uh he he just needs to get there.
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So he gets there, but this is something that connected to Death Spiral, right?
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Um, that Peter Parker has a cousin uh who is Aunt May and Uncle Ben's biological son.
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Yes.
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And um now how I In this story it's revealed that uh that they thought he was a stillbirth.
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Yes.
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Which I'm kind of confused on stillbirth.
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Just that's just when a baby's born and they're they they've passed.
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Right.
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Okay.
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That makes no sense because uh because sorry, in one of the old Venom books that came out, Venom, when he had sleeper, it said that it was a steelbirth and then it was just alive.
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Anyway, never that's that's just a complete side saying so.
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Anytime I hear someone say it's a steelbirth, I'm like, so is it alive?
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Like I'm still anyway.
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But yes, apparently they thought it was a steelbirth, and they thought they had lost the child.
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But instead the child was kidnapped.
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Yes.
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Um and this child's name is uh what's his name?
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Cormac.
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Cormac, which is a very weird name.
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Yeah.
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But he has been he's been grown, he's grown up with a completely different family.
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We don't know anything about that.
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Again, we haven't been reading Amazing, so if that's been covered, sorry, we we missed it.
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Um losers.
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Yeah, yeah, gosh, so we just don't, you know, yeah, you know.
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I stopped after Dan Slott left.
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The best writer ever.
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Or one of the best writers ever.
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Anyway.
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Um, but uh so uh this issue opens with him going to Aunt May at the hospital, and Cormac is there.
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Cormac is there, and Cormac is standing there, sitting there with M uh with Aunt May, and he's like, Aunt May, I got here as fast as I could.
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And she wakes up.
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And when Aunt May wakes up, she's like, Oh, Cormac, you're here.
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Who are you?
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And looks at Peter.
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Yeah.
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And Peter's like, Oh, it's it's me, Aunt May.
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It's me, it's it's it's your nephew, Peter Parker.
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And she like jerks her hand away from him, like as he's holding her hand, and she's like, I don't I don't know who you are.
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So Peter and Cormac go outside because Cormac wants to talk with him, and they're in a chapel, they're in like a hospital chapel is what it looks like.
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And he Peter's crying because he's like, She's forgot me.
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Like she's she doesn't even know who I am.
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And Cormac explains like this is normal with strokes.
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Um usually the the victim, unfortunately, you know, has memory loss, and he explains that, and Peter just busts out crying.
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And um you wanna take it over?
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I mean, you got it if you want it.
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Um and Cormac just comes up behind Peter while he's crying and just picks him up.
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It's just okay.
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Yeah, all of a sudden his like suit just is that this is that the robot suit that Peter had for a while?
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I have no idea.
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It looks like it.
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I don't know if it is.
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I just remember there was like a weird robot symbiote-like suit there for a minute when Spider-Man was in space.
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Anyway, yeah.
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Yeah, he picks him up and he's because he knows he's Spider-Man from Death Spiral, which we reviewed a while back, and that was kind of the we were speculating this was gonna be issue a thousand.
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And uh they fight in the hospital.
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Peter freaking kicks him across the room and they bust out of the hospital and they're swinging around the city fighting.
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Yeah.
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And uh do you want to mention the weapon of choice?
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So Cormac's weapon, his his name, and I still don't understand this.
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His name is Ravage.
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I still don't understand how this is possible because if a character's name is trademarked, and if somebody's a lawyer out there listening, oh yeah, if a character's name is trademarked, how can another company use that character's name?
00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:19.279
So Ravage is obviously being used for Soundwaves, little it's the the dog.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And um so how can Marvel use Ravage for a villain's name?
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How does that circumvent the copyright trademark or whatever?
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Maybe because it's not, maybe because when you have a copyright on a character, like okay, so let's let's say you have a copyright on Ravage, right?
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It's a specific copyright for a specific thing, but if you make another character named Ravage and it's got this, that, and the other, maybe it it works.
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I mean, you've got I mean, I don't know, you've got uh Captain Marvel, right?
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There's a Captain Marvel in Marvel and there's a Captain Marvel changed to super uh Shazam.
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Yeah, but that was a legal battle that they went through.
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That's why that changed.
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Huh.
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So I don't know, like, hey, Transformers, sue the pants off of Marvel right now.
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And do not hire Al Yun.
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No, no, yeah, no one's worried about it.
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They're just like, uh, no one's gonna remember this villain.
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Yeah, yeah, honestly.
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I guess it's just gonna be a little but anyway.
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So the weapon of choice of Ravage is um that he literally takes the memories of Aunt May, of all the memories where Peter's integrated into them, and he turns them into basically a staff.
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I guess it's like a weird sword.
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Yeah, sword staff.
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And he's like, This is all the memories, and I'm gonna beat you with it.
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I'm gonna beat you with your memories.
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Okay, I have no problem with a villain like ripping memories out of people.
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Yes.
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I have a little bit of a problem where you take memories which are not tangible, and I know somebody's out there like, but Clayton, it's a comic book.
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Well, actually, Clayton, let me tell you about the memory chain brain thing.
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Um, but memories aren't tangible.
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So how do you take something that is not tangible and turn it into a tangible weapon to beat Peter Parker with?
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Where does he even get his powers from?
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I have no idea.
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He's just okay.
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Maybe we just didn't read that.
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Maybe we just didn't read it.
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I'm I I'm cutting a I I'm giving a lot of slight to this story.
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Yeah, you can't.
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For the sake of I've not read anything else that came to before.
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Right, right.
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So maybe if we read what came before, it might be explained.
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Yeah.
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But we didn't.
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I also have a feeling it's probably going to be one of those things that's if they were just throwing it out there now for a thousand, and then it'll be later on, they'll explain it for a thousand one or two or whatever.
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Right, right.
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That's what I think, anyways.
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But they they fight through the city and they end up landing on one of those, what are those things called?
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Like the it's I want to call them a trolley, but that's not what it's like.
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It's like one of the it's like if you've seen Spider-Man one, Tobey McGuire, Spider-Man one, the final fight where he fights Green Goblin and all the people are in the little trolley thing, that's what they're fighting on.
00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:48.000
Yeah, on like the cables.
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It's like the cables that go, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't even know.
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I don't even think those are in New York City.
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Is that it might be a cable car, that might be what's car.
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Yeah, but so they're fighting on that, and and Peter's not talking.
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Like, yeah, like it's all and I think also when when uh Ravage hits Spider-Man with the weapon, he can see the memory too, because it gets to the point where you're looking in the memories and he's actually commenting on it.
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Yeah, there and you know, like Ant May is like worried that, like, oh Ben, I hope we've raised a good, you know, like I look at him like a son, I hope we've raised him right, and you know, we've done this right.
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And when we actually see Peter's memories, we see that you know, we see what actually happened.
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Peter let the robber go, and we get the origin story again of you know how Uncle Ben died.
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So Cormac is like, You are the one who killed my father.
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You caused this, which was like, oh, oh shit.
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Yeah, like why were you attacking Peter beforehand?
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Just like, oh, I'm bad guy, so bad guy beat you up.
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I think he's attacking him because he's like, you know, you've stole you stole my life.
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I think that's kind of like the main premise because he he kind of talks like you've stole you've stolen my life.
00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:54.960
Right, right.
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He does.
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And yeah, so when he finds out that Peter uh killed uh Uncle Ben Uncle Ben, uh he's he's even more pissed and now he wants to kill him.
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Also, I don't know if we mentioned, but he also is the one who removed his memory from Amy.
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Right.
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He said, I I took her your memories away from her.
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Yeah.
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And in doing so, Spider-Man with like this is one of those moments where Spider-Man doesn't joke.
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And this is this this this scene right here is what like initiated my review.
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Because like uh we we're gonna rate these, and we're gonna rate each one of them uh from one to eight, one being the best story, eight being the the least best story.
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Um, this this almost this called it really close for me to get it up there because Spider-Man just silently starts going going at him and he breaks his arm, he wraps his body around his arm and bends his back backwards and breaks his arm backwards.
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And I was like, ooh, oh, dang, dang, okay, like working somewhere, yeah.
00:18:53.440 --> 00:19:01.519
I like this, and um finally he's like, I just I gotta get back to Aunt May, and he starts to swing back to Aunt May, and that's the end of this story.
00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.480
Yeah, so um go you you tell me what you think.
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Okay, overall, like you had mentioned while we were planning this episode that maybe we should do like an art breakdown.
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Um, and if that's the case, this is probably my favorite artist of the book, Peppy Miller.
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Yeah, um, I really love the art.
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I think it it's just so beautiful.
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The color palettes.
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This is the same artist who did um the Marvel version of the Superman Spider-Man story where uh Venomized Superman.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's the same artist.
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Yeah, uh, I think it's incredible artwork.
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Um story wise, if the whole issue was built around this, then that would be great.
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Also, I have a problem with this story because it's not what they advertise, and that's why for me it low it it gets knocked down a few points because I hate it when comic companies or any company really says, This is gonna be this thing, and we're gonna promote it like this thing.
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Yeah, and and I'm telling you, it's gonna be about this, and then you get it.
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America's life is gonna change forever, and then it's nothing.
00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.519
Yeah, because this story, which is we talked about it on the phone.
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I was like, you know, this story didn't really, or maybe I don't know if we did it or we didn't.
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We did, we did.
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But I was like, I said, you know, this story doesn't really like I'm we compared this to 800, right?
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800 is clearly our favorite milestone issue, and like you know, I'm not saying it's a fair comparison by any means, but it's just what what this issue should have been is it should have been all focused on this story.
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I think I think this issue should have been like this whole thing with him and the fate of Aunt May and all that stuff should have been this whole book, not okay, well now you gotta pick up issue a thousand and one to figure it out.
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Because that's what it's doing, because a lot more people are gonna pick up a thousand and you know, then like because honestly, I'll be honest, when I finished that that story, I was like, I kind of want to pick up a thousand and one to see what happens.
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Yeah, but I don't feel like it's gonna be executed very well.
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No, um, and again, this being the advertised like his life will change forever.
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The only thing that happened in this story that changed his life forever was that she lost her memory, which can be fixable.
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Knowing comics, it's gonna be fixed, especially if you we can turn her memories into weapons.
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I think we can put them back where they came from.
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If we can sell our marriages to put that thing back where they came from or so, help me.
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So help me, so help me.
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Um but yeah, uh, so it it is a very much by the next issue to know the next story.
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Next time on Spider-Man.
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Next time, don't you don't want to miss next week's episode of The Amazing Spider-Man.
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Yeah, episode 1001.
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Um but so overall the story's okay for me.
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Yeah, it's not what they advertised.
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Art is great.
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So for me personally, this ranks number five on my list.
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Um, this ranks for me number four.
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So pretty close.
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Pretty close.
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This was hard because uh when I did my rating, I did it from worst to best because I I was like, I know what I don't like and I know roughly what I like.
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Yeah, but um the the scene where Spider Man broke bad there for Minute, I was I was getting kind of excited because I I would love to have a story like that.
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That would especially we see, especially that's like a thing that's normal in the Daredevil comics.
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Is every time Spider-Man shows up, he's like, You're done.
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Yeah, like it's like, oh, he's scary.
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I I love seeing the post is like, what's scarier?
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Batman smiling or Spider-Man being quiet?
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Honestly, Spider-Man being quiet.
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Batman can break my bones, but Spider-Man can obliterate me with one punch.
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The end of the killing joke did not scare me.
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And he laughed in that one.
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Yeah.
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Um, yeah.
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So number five for me, I'm trying to think there was something else I was gonna say, and I've missed I've forgotten it, so it doesn't even matter.
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Is it about uh Raven?
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.559
No, no, I I can't remember what it is.
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Um I I if this I think like we've reiterated already.
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I think if the rest of the issue was just this story, that would have been fine with me.
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Yeah.
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And just finish it out.
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But um, oh, I remember what it was now that we're talking.
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Um Aunt May's memories, like we know it's gonna come back, so yeah, it's not gonna change anything.
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And and Peter Parker's life has not changed other than for what, probably five issues.
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Aunt May doesn't remember who he is.
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Yeah.
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He's like, Oh, I'm gonna lose Aunt May.
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The the deal I made with Mephisto so long ago is now coming back to bite me.
00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:16.000
Oh no.
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:17.039
Yeah, I know.
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:26.000
Which which I can't say anything because I did say I liked that story, but I only liked it for the fact that it's to rephrase everybody.
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One more day I think is a good story, but I don't think it's good for the long haul.
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Anyway, go listen to our episode.
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Do not hate me.
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I have a better explanation.
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Just just just just hear me out.
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Okay, so is there anything else you want to say on that side?
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I'm ready to move on.
00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:40.960
Okay, the next story.
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This next story is a lot better.
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It it is.
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So this story is set in the future.
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Yes, many, many years in the future.
00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.319
And this actually feels like a celebration of Spider-Man.
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This feels like Spider-Man life story, one of my favorite stories.
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Oh, I love life stories.
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And it because Peter Parker is old, and there's a mention that they say, Well, you you were Spider-Man for 60 years.
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.240
Um, so this is Peter Parker in a nursing home.
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And um he's just he's really just living a decent life.
00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:08.720
Yeah.
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Like he's got on his um his his nightstand, like a picture of him and MJ getting married and on all this stuff.
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It is he has a son, he has grandkids, and they come and visit him in the nursing home.
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And then one day um the nurse is like, Peter, there's somebody to see you today.
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And it's an old Gwen Stacy.
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And Peter's like, What?
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How are you here?
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Like, this isn't real.
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Like, oh my gosh.
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And she's like, I just wanted to come and say hi to you.
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Like, it's real.
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And we're getting flashbacks to like when they were younger.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and that's some of my favorite art.
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:48.000
Like, Patrick Gleason did the art for this, and like those flashbacks I just oh.
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It's really good to see him do interior.
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I haven't seen him do interior in a while.
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I haven't either, and it's so good.
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Um and then uh she goes away and he's telling everybody Gwen stopped by.
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Gwynn Gwen was here, and they're like, Dad, Gwen's been gone for 60 years, like she's been gone for a long time.
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She she's not here.
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:16.960
And um then Peter's like, well, maybe maybe I since I did stop taking the medicine, maybe maybe she wasn't here.
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.200
Maybe I'm just kind of going crazy or whatever.
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And then she shows up again and she says, Peter, I'm here.
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I don't have a lot of time.
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That was really me.
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I'm I'm here to talk to you.
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But they're take they're they're here to take me away.
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:29.039
Yeah.
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And uh he goes in, he like goes to her room to protect her, and he's like, what, like vampire zombie looking things?
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:38.079
Vampire thug looking guys, yeah.
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Are trying to get her, and he's like, I'll never stop.
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He's like, I'll never let anything take her.
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And he punches.
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Did you notice when he punches the one you can see like the silhouette of Spider-Man up in the corner?
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:48.640
I didn't notice that.
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.160
There is a it's like above the door, it almost looks like the black suit.
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.880
Like it's just like a it's like the the head and the eyes are like kind like it's really cool.
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:01.680
Um I love Patrick Gleason's art because he's so creative with like the way he puts things in there.
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:02.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:08.880
But um, yeah, and it turns out it's just the the orderlies, just the regular nurses there.
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.720
I was like, hey, calm down, Peter.
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:11.279
Mr.
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:11.519
P.
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:12.160
They call him Mr.
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:12.319
P.
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:13.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.160
Um they call me Mr.
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:16.640
P.
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:22.799
It's Mr.
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:23.759
P to you.
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:24.640
Yeah, buckle.
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:34.000
So he keeps like thinking he's going crazy, and he's telling his son, and his son, and and even the nurses are like uh telling Peter's son, like he's going crazy.
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.759
Like you know, he's seeing things.
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:42.799
We flip to Spider-Man, and uh he's like on his phone, he's on the like the Statue of Liberty, and he's got people webbed up.
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:43.759
He's eating like a hot dog.
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.359
And this is this is his nephew, I think.
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:46.720
This I think it's his grandson.
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:48.240
Or his grandson, yeah, that's what I meant.
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:48.799
Sorry, my bad.
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.039
Yeah.
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.160
And I love that suit.
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.200
It looks so cool.
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.359
I love that the eyes are like pointed down.
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:59.119
Did you and he's hanging upside down under the Statue of Liberty with the with like thugs, and he's eating a hot dog.
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.319
Yeah, like that's so cool.
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:01.759
And he's like, hmm.
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:02.559
Yeah.
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:09.680
And uh he he goes and investigates and he goes back to the nursing home and he finds an old man there.
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.680
And he says, I know it was you.
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.440
And the old man is He's like, like, put up the like stop the act.
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.240
I know it's you.
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:18.640
Yeah.
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.720
And uh he's like, fine, I'll I'll give it up.
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.880
And he pulls out like a an uh a medallion.
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.559
Like a medallion necklace thing, yeah.
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.240
And uh he's like, Well, how'd you figure it out?
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:35.359
He's like, Well, my grandfather trained me with everything that he knows, and he passed it on to me, and my grandfather was the best hero there ever was.
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.279
Yeah, and uh he's like, I know who you really are, Mysterio.
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:43.680
And Mysterio's like, Well, he hurt me, so I thought I'd hurt him back.
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:48.880
And um, then I realized it's not as fulfilling as I thought it would be.
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.680
Yeah, and he's like, But I can give him something.
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.559
And so Mysterio goes to Peter and he's like, Yeah, it was me.
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.559
I just really wanted to hurt you, and uh, you hurt me and you ruined my life.
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.640
And Peter's like, Well, it was never anything personal.
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:03.359
I hope you know that.
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.400
Like, yeah, I just doing what I felt was right.
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.400
And um Mysterio finally says, You know what?
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.240
I don't want to die on revenge.
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.200
I'm dying anyways.
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:14.640
I don't want to die with revenge.
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.720
I want you to have a final moment with it.
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:23.440
And he holds out the ring and he gives it to Peter, and it he says, It will be real, it will be her, actually.
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.559
And Peter, and he's like, This is all I want to give you.
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:35.839
And you see Peter take the ring, and you see like this bright light, and Gwen appears like as as she was when she was younger.
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:45.279
And um, I really again I love Patrick Gleason's art because like the next two pages are just like it's shown from the window outside the window.
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:46.799
It's like outside the window looking in.
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:53.759
And you just slowly see like this what like ghosts, this phantom version of Gwen, just like walk closer to Peter.
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.960
Yeah, and it's just each panel is just that.
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:57.920
It's just them talking.
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.799
And you just you don't know what they're what he's saying because he's you know, tell you know say what you need to say.
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.720
And he's like, You only got a few minutes.
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:05.039
Yeah.
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:15.920
And and he's sitting in there, he's just sitting in the room with his head down, like listening to this, which is like, dang, like you're you're listening to your art like I guess one of your art like the series arch nemesis is gonna be Spider-Man.
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:16.240
Right.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.240
Um you're listening to your arch nemesis talk to the love of his life one last time.
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.319
Like it's it's it's deep.
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:31.279
And and then the last page is or or the second to last page is Gwen is like, you it's obviously implied that she's gonna leave.
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:37.519
And Peter like takes her hand and he's like, I just wanna say and she says, You don't have to.
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:38.400
I already know.
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:38.799
Yeah.
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.160
And then she leaves.
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:47.759
And um that's pretty much the end of the story, because his n his grandson and his son come in and like, Dad, I'm so sorry.
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.799
Uh we didn't believe you, and everything, yada yada yada.
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.720
And then Peter's like, Oh, it's okay.
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:53.839
I'm I'm happy.
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:59.839
And he looks out the window and they've painted a mural of Spider-Man and on like a on the build on the side of a building.
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:00.319
Yeah.
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.079
And uh so that was really sweet.
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:15.920
It was a really like I I immediately was like, like, I was reading it, and it my first thought was like, dang, this is actually uh longer than I thought it was gonna be because normally with these kinds of stories, our complaint is that like the stories are too short.
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.200
They try to do too much with not enough pages, but this time they really fleshed a lot of these out.
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:27.119
But this one's the most fleshed out, yeah, and I was like, I think this one is uh it's so well done.
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:27.359
Yeah.
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:28.319
It's so well written.
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.640
And it's it's very like, you know, we don't get to see old Peter because Peter's never gonna get old.
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:33.039
Right.
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.640
But like when we see when we do see it, it's it's almost just like it's really heartwarming, and it's like, dang.
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.279
And one thing about this book that gets me a little bit is that every time Peter is alone, he's just sitting in a chair in his room.
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:45.680
Yeah.
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.640
He's just sitting there, he's just like just existing.
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.039
Yeah.
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.960
And almost like he's like charging, you know.
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.119
Like in this, it's like it's part of me is like, is that what it's like to be old?
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.160
Like, is that what it's like?
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.880
Do you just kind of sit there and just wait for people to come by?
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.440
It kind of it's just it's it's weird.
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:01.759
Yeah.
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.799
Um, so this story for me, uh, and I've done a lot of talking for this story, and I I'm sorry.
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.519
No, this this honestly, you this is this one's yours.
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:16.319
Um when I read this story, I kind of I didn't I no tears were produced, but I felt them coming.
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:16.799
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.319
Um, because it was just emotional.
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:35.680
Because for me, this story really spoke to me is um if if I if unfortunately, if Gabriella was to ever go first, my wife was to ever go first, um, and I had the chance like Peter, what would I want to say to her just to be able to talk to her one last time?
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:46.160
And uh that's what got me is like what do you say for somebody who you love and they're gone and you can't like what what do you say in your final words?
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:46.640
Yeah.
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.440
And um that that kind of got me.
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:55.519
And um like they were they were starting to form in my eyes of like get back in there.
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.559
Um so for me, this story is called Still Standing, and for me, this is my number one story.
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.799
Yep, yeah, I I knew that this was gonna be your number one.
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.559
It's it's very good, and it um it was it was very close to being mine.
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.960
Yeah, it is not my number one, it is my number three.
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:11.519
Okay.
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:20.400
Um, and I have reasons for it being number three, but um I don't have any neck honestly, the only reasons it's number three is because there were two other stories that hit it a little bit better for me.
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.279
But honestly, like I no no notes on this.
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:31.279
This is a really good story, especially for issue a thousand, like and it it honestly, this feels like it was fleshed out more than the main story, yeah, more than Ravenge.
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.039
So, I mean, I I really enjoyed it.
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.039
It was very hard to put this at three for me because I wanted to put it higher.
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.279
Um, but there was only you know three spots.
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:39.839
Yeah.
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.400
Yeah.
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.200
Um so I'll let you do the next story since I talked a lot for this one.
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:44.000
Um, what is the next one?
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:44.960
The rec reel?
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.079
I want to do this one together.
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.160
This is what I want to I still want to do this one together.
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:49.759
This one is this one's interesting.
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:50.480
It is very interesting.
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.000
Not a lot goes on in this one.
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.279
The this is this is probably one of my favorite art of the one of my favorite art pieces of the whole Humberto Ramos.
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.240
Humberto Ramos.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.200
I I love his art.
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.000
He's got really good art.
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.440
Yes, and it's very nostalgic.
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.440
But this one, um I honestly think it's the colors he uses.
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:06.559
I don't know if he colors his stuff.
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:07.920
I don't know, but it looks really good.
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.119
It does look very good.
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:18.480
Um, but uh in this story, we get uh Peter Parker and uh uh we st we start out at a funeral and it's at Harry Osborne's funeral.
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.519
And Peter Parker is looking into the open casket and you see Green, you see Norman Osborne and Harry.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.720
Or Harry, sorry, my bad.
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:31.680
You see Harry and his eyes are closed, and then in the next panel his eyes are open, and in the next pedal he's starting to smile and slowly look more like the Green Goblin.
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:31.839
Yeah.
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.880
And then you turn the page and he jumps out of the casket and he's like grabbing Peter, and Peter, ah, Harry, he wakes up and it's a nightmare.
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.720
And MJ's like, hey, hey, are you okay?
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.200
Are you okay?
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.000
He's like, I don't know.
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.359
I just he's like, I don't I don't know who the real person is in there.
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.160
I don't know if, you know, was Harry's face the mask or was the Green Goblin the mask?
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.319
Well, who who is the mask on this version?
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.640
And it's a very sweet moment with Harry and or MJ and Peter that we never get.
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.799
I don't I'm surprised we didn't get it more in this in this like slew of things.
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.279
Right.
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:08.480
But like this was uh I think this was about the the biggest like interaction between the two of them in this whole in this book, yeah.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:17.519
And they um um she's talking like hey, you know, the funerals today, like um he's I think he says, like, I just don't do well with open caskets or something.
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:18.559
I think he says something like that.
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.400
And she's like, Well, I I think if you don't go, you're gonna really wish you did.
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.440
So let's sit at breakfast and we'll we'll go.
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:35.039
And so they get to the the actual funeral and uh Liz is crying and she's you know talking to MJ and Peter kind of slips away.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.840
And the MJ's like, Where'd Peter go?
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:46.159
Well he's swinging through the city now in the Spider-Man costume and goes to the building, I guess where he had passed, or his goblin lair or whatever, right?
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:58.480
Yeah, and when he's in there, he sees an apparition of Green Goblin, Harry Osborne, and they start to talk to each other, and he's he uh I'm this is where it gets a little fuzzy for me.
00:34:58.639 --> 00:34:59.519
He starts like, what is it?
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.400
He sees like, you know, I don't know who the real you is.
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:11.039
Yeah, that's the conversation that they have is it ties back to there in the very beginning, is um Peter is is like, Well, I don't know who the real Harry was.
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.760
Like, were you my friend or were you the goblin?
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.920
And even Harry is like, well, isn't that the whole point about mask?
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.119
We put on what people want to see and hiding back the thing.
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:26.559
He's like, You experienced a traumatic childhood and you became you know Spider Man.
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.760
Um, but you could have very easily become me.
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.000
It's just the mask we choose to put on.
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.679
And then Norman shows up and he's like, Don't let my milksop of a son lie to you.
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.760
Like he he is an Osborne boy, and Osborne boys, we we all have our inner demons.
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:52.400
And that's just the way life is, and my dad had it, and his dad had it, and I had it, and Harry has it.
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:59.920
We all have this inner demon in us, and this is just who we're meant to be, and this whole thing with masks just mean nothing.
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:07.920
And uh and and then it's literally the meme uh of when of the meme with like the woman.
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.000
And the person's holding the back of the biggest.
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:14.159
Like this is literally your cause.
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.119
And Norman's just sitting there with a smirk on it, and Harry's like holding Peter backing Peter back.
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:26.800
Um but yeah, he he he aggressively goes after this apparition of Norman, being like, you know, hey, you're the reason for this.
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.480
Like you have no room to talk.
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.320
You're you're a narcissistic jerk.
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:30.800
Right.
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:40.960
And um how does it conclude with them in the it's pretty much that ending, it's just like it's you're left with that question of who is the mask and who is the real person.
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:41.519
Yeah.
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:46.239
And um the apparitions fade away, and then Peter shows back up at the funeral.
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.760
Um and MJ's like, Where'd you go?
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679
And he's like, I just I had to go take care of something.
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.960
And then that's kind of it.
00:36:51.199 --> 00:37:00.000
That's kind of it well, he says uh because MJ says something like, Well, um like how are you gonna remember Harry or something like that?
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719
And Peter's like, I'm I'm not worried about it.
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.159
I'll always know what I need to go back to in order to remember who he really was.
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:06.800
Yeah.
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.239
And it cuts to the the goblin mask.
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.920
Yeah, it's the goblin mask on the ground with a spider crawling on it.
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.280
Um story was it's is okay.
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:17.760
It's okay.
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.199
The art is what does this one for me?
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.280
This one, the art for this is amazing.
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.199
I love uh Humberto Ramos doing Spider-Man and Green Goblin.
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.599
That's just like the the there's the color composition in that that lineup is always really good.
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.440
I kind of wish I got the cover for this one.
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:31.920
Yeah.
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.599
Um, because it uh he draws Peter very differently than normal.
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.079
He draws Peter to look like Andrew Garfield in this.
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:38.800
And I don't hate it.
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:39.840
I actually I like it.
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.119
I like the way he draws MJ.
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.079
MJ looks good.
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.960
Like it it they it looks it's a very cool cover.
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:45.360
Yeah.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.920
Um but reading this, I was like, oh, that's this is I I like the I like the visionary of this.
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.320
The story's kind of it could have been better.
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.519
I think the story makes more sense, and it's been so many, so, so many years since I've read it.
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.920
Is it Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man?
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.679
Or is it like 300 where where Harry dies as goblin?
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.199
Uh and that's a really good issue.
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:09.199
But um, I think JM Dematis did that and he did this story as well.
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.159
So I think it's just him just continuing that story.
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:13.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:14.079
Which is is good.
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:26.079
I I I it feels weird for Peter, me personally, my my gripe about this is it feels weird for Peter to leave a funeral just to go have an imaginary conversation in the goblin hideout.
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:26.559
Yeah.
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.239
Like I feel like this would have been better.
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:36.400
Imagine a mat, like, I don't know, like I feel like this would have been better during the funeral ceremony, like people are up there talking and he's envisioning this as the funeral's playing out.
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:42.159
I just feel like him leaving is almost disrespectful to Harry, and it just makes him look really bad.
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:42.559
Yeah.
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:43.360
Um, I don't know.
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.000
It's just it it it's like he literally left to have a conversation with himself and then come right back.
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:48.480
Yeah.
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:49.119
You know what I mean?
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.480
That's exactly what it feels like.
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.039
I don't know.
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.440
Um and like what, 10 minutes passed?
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.840
Yeah, and then it's like a 10-minute thing, and then he swings right back, and then it's just everything's fine and dandy.
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.639
It was nice to see Peter and MJ actually be together.
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.840
Yeah, being together.
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.320
And I just I miss that so much.
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:05.519
I miss that really bad.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.000
Um, that would have been a great thing to have an issue with house.
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.760
Peter's life has changed forever.
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.719
He gets married again.
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.360
Well, that you know that doesn't happen.
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:18.320
When we were talking, I think at theorizing back with 800, we were like, what if they get married again?
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.400
Yeah, that was the Yeah, nope.
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.239
Marvel's just like, we don't really care.
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.280
We don't want that to happen.
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.239
That's what everybody wants.
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.280
We can't give them that.
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.960
We have to give them this other story about the uh cousin that was just takes memories and sorts.
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:32.400
Turns it into yeah.
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.880
We're the most tone-deaf company in the world.
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.159
Um fans.
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:38.880
What fans?
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:39.119
Yeah.
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.039
So how where do you rank this story?
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.039
I rank this story number five.
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:48.559
Um this was a clear number five because this was right kind of in the middle of everything for me.
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:56.320
Because number six, six, seven, and eight for me are like my I didn't really like these stories, but my one through threes were like, I definitely like these.
00:39:56.480 --> 00:40:01.519
So four and five were my kind of um my just my iffy.
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.199
Like I like this, but I wish it had I I wish for more.
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:05.679
Yeah.
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.960
I guess if that makes sense.
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.199
But art wise, number one.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:09.679
Really?
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.679
I think the art for this is is amazing.
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.599
Now, now, well, I don't know, because there's other stuff that has better art.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.000
I don't know.
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.679
It it it's it's it's just that nostalgia.
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:19.199
It's the nostalgia, yeah.
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:27.119
I love that just the style, and especially like it's it's altered to look newer, so it's like a new nostalgia, new old nostalgia.
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:27.519
I don't know.
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:28.239
Well, what about you?
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:28.880
What do you rank it?
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:29.920
This is number six for me.
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:30.559
Number six.
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:31.199
We're getting pretty close.
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:32.320
We're still pretty close.
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:33.360
Close on tie.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.039
We're we're we're basically the same person.
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:36.480
Why did you rate this number six?
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.800
Um, just because uh basically because of the same reasons you did.
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.559
I mean, it's it's I I just wish for more.
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:44.880
Yeah.
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.000
Um the art is great.
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.239
I I love Humberto Ramos's art.
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:56.960
Um, but ultimately it it it it does just feel like Peter leaves just to go have a conversation with himself, which does feel disrespectful to Harry, his best friend.
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.960
Um it is like here's Peter and MJ.
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.079
Isn't that nice?
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.400
Now just that doesn't matter to the story.
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:04.880
Yeah.
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.079
Um and and I loved them having that conversation at the beginning.
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:09.840
Like uh the I don't know who's there.
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.760
Like I love I love it when MJ kind of coaches Peter a little bit.
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.639
Like like she kind of helps him.
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.239
She's his she's his helper.
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:18.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:25.679
And I I love that because it's just like Spider-Man is just going to her and she's and she's and she's more than likely always right.
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.599
You know, she's always giving good advice, you know, and unless she's Venom.
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:31.679
That's a different story.
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.840
But but yeah, I I think this I think the same thing.
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:41.760
And I think that this didn't feel like a celebratory issue or celebratory story.
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.760
It was let's just look back at a uh monumental milestone.
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:46.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.840
Which in the grand scheme of things, is the death of Harry Osborne really the biggest thing that happens in Peter's life?
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:52.639
No.
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.960
Yeah, so is it really it just to me doesn't feel celebration?
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:01.440
Yeah, well, according to Marvel, the biggest thing that happened in his life is supposed to take place in this issue.
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.480
Yeah.
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.679
Well, okay.
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:05.840
So moving on to the next story.
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.239
Tears of the Spider Queen.
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.480
I'll let you take yeah, I'll let you take this one.
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:10.800
Yeah.
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:11.679
This is weird.
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.760
This is a very I I'm still a little iffy on the story of this one.
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.480
So my clear, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of, it's very like ambiguous storytelling.
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:20.719
Yeah.
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:28.239
Uh so it's uh there are these these cults members that are about to kidnap this girl who is skateboarding on the street.
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:28.480
Yeah.
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:30.559
And they kidnap her and take her into the sewers.
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:40.559
Well, Spider-Man gets word of this and he goes into the sewers to catch her, and she has morphed into a giant spider monster, um, and in which the these people worship her.
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:41.039
Yeah.
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.079
And it's kind of the the the art in this is very good.
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.280
It's all watercolor.
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:46.480
It's Peach Momoko.
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.199
Amazing.
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.800
I love Peach Mamoko's work, and especially doing the giant spider was great on her part.
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.559
That was this was a good story pick for her.
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:52.960
Yeah.
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:59.840
Um, because it it's it's almost it's haunting because like her upper, like she's the spider, but uh her underbelly has her legs hanging down.
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:00.079
Yeah.
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.760
So it's almost just like it's like you can see the humanity still there.
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:04.159
Right, right.
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:05.199
It's freaky.
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:21.119
Um, so uh Spider-Man pretty much well, she starts to kill and eat the cult members in the sewer, and finally Spider-Man kind of stops her and she turns back to normal, and then he kind of just walks out with her, telling her that he'll protect her.
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:21.440
Yes.
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.800
And that's kind of the end of the story.
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.599
In terms of now, again, I may have missed the the the narrative aspect of this.
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.920
Um, but this thing just didn't have a lot.
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.280
It was just kind of it was just kind of like it this one clearly felt like it was more about the imagery.
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:35.599
Yeah.
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:41.599
And it was clearly like, hey, Peach Mamoko's drawing this, you're about to it's this is more eye candy than your or than storytelling candy, you know.
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.519
Because this was Frank Miller who wrote this.
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:43.920
Yes.
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.159
And Frank Miller's known for great works, but this did not feel like Frank Miller.
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:54.239
Well, maybe and again, maybe maybe giving it the benefit of the doubt, maybe there's more to it than meets the eye.
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.159
But honestly Honestly, like I think that they're there like if I read this a second time, I may pick up on things better.
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:04.719
I don't know.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.920
I should I should read it again.
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:13.920
I only read it the once, but like um but uh artistic wise, very beautiful colors, very beautiful paint work.
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.320
Story, eh I give it a six.
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:17.280
Really?
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:18.880
This is this was a six for me.
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:24.880
So I still think it's better than the other stories, than the the last like I um I know you ranked it higher than I did.
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:26.880
Or lower, sorry, you ranked it lower.
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.880
Um you ranked it lower than I did, but I think there are two other stories that are worse than this one.
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:32.960
I I like the eye candy of this story.
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:37.039
Like I'm getting when I read this, I immediately flipping through the book, I was like, oh, this is Peach Mamoko.
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:37.840
Oh man.
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.199
And I was just like excited to just look at it more than I was to read it.
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.119
So that's what made this a six.
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:45.679
Okay.
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:47.679
So for me, this is my least favorite story.
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:48.719
This is number eight for you.
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:49.360
But yes.
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:49.760
Wow.
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:58.480
But as I said on the phone to you, that my bottom two, story seven and eight for me, are interchangeable, honestly.
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.119
Like they they're both okay.
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:06.000
Do you think that this is worth a change, or do you think it it's it's sitting where it should be?
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.719
I for me it's still gonna be sitting where it should be.
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:08.960
Yeah.
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.400
Um Peach Mamoko's art is the only thing that really elevates it.
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:20.079
Um, and at the end, I think the message is kind of like Spider-Man will always be there, Spider-Man will protect you, um, kind of thing story.
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.159
Um, but that's not really elaborated.
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:26.239
The one part that I did laugh at is like uh there's a picture of a rat.
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:31.119
And Spotty's like, Mickey here is gonna show me the way.
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:33.519
Like a gross rat.
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.239
It's not like overthrow your corpse over the lord.
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.920
Way to freaking way to rip apart your uh your your your manager in the most subtle way.
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.840
That's something I've been noticed about comics.
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.199
It feels like there's a lot of little slight jabs every once in a while in comic books.
00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.639
I feel like I'm seeing that more and more.
00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.119
Yeah.
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.599
But um, but yeah, I give this a six.
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:02.719
I think it's it's good.
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:03.920
Uh it could be better.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.920
Um, it's more of the eye candy that gets at a six rather than the story.
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:08.400
Right.
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.360
And there's nothing wrong with letting your art tell your story.
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:12.719
That's that's what comics are.
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.400
That's why they're not novels.
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.280
They the art is supposed to elevate the story.
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.199
Um, but your art, your art can't do all your heavy lifting, and your writing can't do all your heavy lifting.
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.519
They have to work together, I think, to tell a perfect story.
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:31.440
And I just think the art is the only thing pushing this story here, and the the writing is just base level.
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.280
Yeah, I I I agree.
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:34.880
And and yeah, I agree.
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.880
So uh moving on to the next story that I really like, so I'm gonna take this one.
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:39.280
Okay.
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:47.360
This is a story written by Triple H, the wrest WWE wrestler, and uh drawn by Ed McGuinness.
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:48.480
I love Ed McGuinness.
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.719
I love I love his Superman the most, but his Spider-Man's really good.
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:53.199
Okay.
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.480
Um, but anyways, this is a story about young Peter.
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.840
Very young Peter.
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.199
What, like, is he I want to say he's like eight or nine, maybe ten.
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:02.480
Yeah, six or seven.
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:03.360
No.
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:18.800
But um, so this it we kind of see a little bit of a flashback, and it's Uncle Ben, and he is just like, he's worked overtime, he's worked extra shifts, he's he's really done this.
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.119
And young Peter comes home and he's like, Did you can we go?
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.159
Can we do I've all my whole books made all A's on my report card?
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:26.880
Blah blah blah blah.
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.440
And Uncle Ben's like, Oh, I just don't know, Peter.
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.480
I don't think I was able to work enough, and I just it's really expensive.
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.320
He's like, Uncle Ben, come on.
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.039
Yeah, and he's like, I got them right here.
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:38.719
I got you.
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.000
I got it.
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.599
I'm a winner, see my prize, you're losers, it's in crystal.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.519
But um, so they they go and Aunt May's like, go have fun, you you two.
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:56.239
We don't really know like what they're going to yet, but we just know Uncle Ben's got tickets for something.
00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:03.280
And it's like they go through the drive-thru of a restaurant uh uh of a fast food chain real quick, and um they're at Taco Bell.
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:10.960
And yeah, yeah, and um Peter is sitting in the passenger seat and he's just I don't know, he's just like playing with his action figures.
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:20.800
Well, you know, he's he's sitting there, he's like, I don't know if I should get a hoodie, or if I should get a t-shirt, or if I should get a hoodie and a t-shirt, or maybe I should just get this, or maybe just like and then Uncle Ben just kind of looks at him and he's just like outlets.
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:26.239
Yeah, he he says, you know, Peter, you're a really good kid, and you try your hardest.
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:39.679
And I just want you to know that me and Aunt May are really proud of you, and never change who you are, always always stay who you are, um, because you have a good heart and you care for people, and and that is good in this world.
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.360
And he went, but I didn't do anything.
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.519
Yeah, which is like that's the most relatable.
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:44.559
Yeah, you didn't do nothing.
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.039
What do you mean?
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.440
And he's but being a dad, like it's like you just you just exist.
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.000
Yeah, and it's just like I I'm so proud of you.
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.199
And that's really what he says.
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:54.639
I'm I'm proud of you, Peter.
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.079
Yeah, and and Peter's response was okay, Mr.
00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:58.880
Sentimental.
00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.679
Like, let's see.
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:03.280
I'm like, Oh, okay, yeah, you're definitely like a an eight-year-old boy.
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:04.239
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:10.800
Um and he's like, I let's just go to the game, and and and and Ben is like, okay.
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:24.239
And um then we turn and we see like these wrestlers, and they're one's like doing a suplex or something, and and Peter's like, yeah, get him! You know, he's super excited, and then we cut to the present day, yeah.
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:32.400
And um, they're all like cheering on the wrestlers, and then we look up in the rafters, and Peter is there in a Spider-Man suit eating popcorn.
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:33.840
He's like cheering them on, yeah.
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.360
And I really like this story.
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.199
And he's holding a picture of him and Uncle Ben.
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:38.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:41.440
This was a really good story.
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.679
I ranked it a little lower.
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:44.239
Really?
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:44.559
Okay.
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.320
It's it's number seven for me.
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.800
Oh my goodness.
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.960
The only reason is it felt very short.
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:53.760
It was very short.
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.199
It was very just like it was just like an awe sentimental moment.
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.559
And I was just like, this is more about Uncle Ben and I don't know.
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:01.920
I I think I just was like, eh.
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:03.360
Okay, okay.
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:04.800
This one just sucked, Clayton.
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.519
Get better tape.
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:06.079
I'm kidding.
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.119
Um, no, I I don't know.
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:15.679
I just I I like I I rated it a seven just because uh I don't again, a lot of stories to sift through here.
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:16.079
Okay.
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.679
And I'm not a big fan of the artist.
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.199
You don't like Ed McGinnis?
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:19.679
Not really.
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:26.239
I after seeing the whole like Green Goblin, the amazing Green Goblin thing that they did, it kind of just turned me off to his art.
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.440
Oh, when they did the when they did the Spider-Man Green Goblin thing.
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.159
Yeah, I exactly.
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.599
So once I like that's the only like thing that I really remember of his art.
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.599
And he did, he also did Death Spiral, and I he did a lot of like the the art in it.
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:44.079
And I just it just looked very like like it looked very like Disney XD kind of art a little bit.
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.239
For me personally, his his art really took off in the early 2000s.
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:48.800
Right, right.
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:53.280
So he was really big then, and he was working for DC, and and I just really like it.
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.280
You've you've yeah, you've been and I've not been you've been exposed to his art way more than I am.
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:58.079
Yeah.
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:08.239
Um but it but it is a good sentimental story, and especially where you're a dad, like that hits you because like I'm sure you look at your daughter and you're just like, I'm just proud of you for big being here for me.
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:08.880
You know what I mean?
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.840
Like I you know, so and I and I recognize that bias.
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:18.800
Um, and and I think that's honestly probably why, because I've had moments where I just look at her and I'm like, I'm so proud of you.
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.400
And she's like she's like poops in her diaper.
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.039
I'm like you know what?
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:25.920
Amen, brother.
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:26.719
I'm proud of you.
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.800
Stay who you are, I love you.
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:38.719
Um and even when she's crying uh and she wakes us all up at two o'clock in the morning, uh, like she did last night.
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.760
I love you.
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:42.559
Um like you still have those moments.
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.760
So I relate to this story.
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:52.320
And I we were talking on the phone earlier, and I think stories where we can put ourselves in these characters meet that's when they mean the most to us.
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:52.719
Yeah.
00:51:53.039 --> 00:52:00.960
You and I were having that conversation earlier because one of your favorite stories is a story where you can put yourself into that place of that character.
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.960
And and so for me, the stories where I I relate, right?
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:06.400
Uh, that's where they mean the most.
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.679
So I definitely get that.
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:14.880
I also, you know, not that I'm a big wrestling fan or anything, but I'm vaguely familiar with wrestling thanks to like my dad and stuff.
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.400
So I know a little bit about it.
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.159
So I just remember like times when he would take me and stuff too.
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:35.840
So I think that all is just kind of culminated in into me really loving this story, Ed McGinnis' art, me being able to relate, um, a very sentimental moment, um, and just like seeing how seeing legacy and seeing like Peter remember um this moment with Uncle Ben.
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.440
And really, you because Peter beats himself up all the time, you know.
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:40.400
He be all the time.
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:48.159
And and that's why other than 800, my other favorite uh milestone issue is Amazing Spider-Man 500, where it's J.
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:55.039
Michael Strazinski and Doctor Strange gives uh it's a it's his Peter's birthday, and Doctor Strange says, I have a gift for you.
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.480
It's anybody you want in all of history, you get what, like an hour with them?
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.840
And you can talk about it, it's really them, whatever you want.
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.000
And Peter wishes for Uncle Ben.
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:12.800
And he just talks to Uncle Ben, and Uncle Ben and Amazing Fire Spider-Man 500 tells him that he are like, Are you happy?
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.239
And like, I'm I'm proud of you, Peter, and all this.
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.880
And that's really, I think, uh why I really like this story too, because it reminded me of that issue.
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.119
Yeah.
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.199
When he talks about, like, are you happy?
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:24.880
I'm I'm proud of you, stay who you are.
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.920
And I think Peter being there in that wrestling match, he's probably reminded of like what Uncle Ben said that day.
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.800
And um so for me, this is number two.
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:35.360
Number two.
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.599
Well, complete polar opposites.
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.840
Yeah, even though the last one were like, look at us, we're the same person, we have the same mindset.
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.840
And they're like, eight, two.
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:44.800
Eight, two.
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:45.920
No, I'm not seven.
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:46.639
Oh, seven, seven.
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.159
I have there's one worse than this.
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:49.119
Okay, in my opinion.
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:49.679
There's one.
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:51.599
We probably have the same one.
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.599
Um, so that's for me, it's number two.
00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.000
And again, I I like I don't I I because also when I read this, um, you put yourself in Uncle Ben's perspective.
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:10.559
Yeah, I put myself in Peter Parker's perspective because I remember going out with my papa and uh we me and him doing stuff like that, and I'm yeah, I'm in the the passenger seat, and I'm over here like, oh what what what action figure am I gonna buy?
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.480
Or what what am I gonna buy this or am I gonna buy that?
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.639
Or and then he's just like, you know, you're a good kid.
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.400
And I'm just like, okay.
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:25.440
Anyway, you know, like I it's just like I relate to that, and and I I see both sides, but um, there was other stories in this in this bundle.
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:26.480
It's still a really good story.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:27.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:32.159
It's just it's just that like you had eight stories to pick from and it had to be somewhere.
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:32.559
Yeah.
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:38.960
Honestly, looking back though, I I pop kind of want to put this over uh the Peach Mamoko one, though.
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:44.559
I would I would I would be willing to bump it up just because you're like you're not you're not that evil.
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.880
I like you a little bit better.
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.559
Um so the next story, you take it away.
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:51.599
The jester.
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:52.159
Yes.
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:56.800
So this story is uh this is a very good one.
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:00.159
Um so for this is by Brian Michael Bendis.
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.159
And Stuart Eneman came out of retirement back.
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.199
He's back.
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.239
And that's great because he did 800, which was my favorite.
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:07.519
Um, and I've actually met him.
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:08.320
He's really nice.
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:16.000
Um, so we uh so we pick up uh Peter Parker's in Times Square and he's looking at a billboard of fireball?
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:18.639
No, like I thought it was like Skyrider or something.
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:22.159
Skyrider, it's some weird like D-list hero.
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:22.559
Yeah.
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.000
And he's like, now how does he get three movies?
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.400
And like, like, I'm just here.
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.000
Like, I don't I want a movie.
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.119
Like I want I want attention or whatever, right?
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:34.800
And we we start with that.
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:41.360
Isn't there even a line in there where it's like the the first two made millions of dollars, like billions of dollars, like broke records?
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:42.639
I wish I was worth that much.
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.639
Yeah, wish I could break records.
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.199
I wish I could, yeah, yeah, literally.
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.079
And um, come on, come on.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.599
Yeah, literally buddy, don't I got a surprise for you?
00:55:53.840 --> 00:56:01.360
But anyway, so but but we we go into Times Square and he is fighting uh the the bunny girl.
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:02.239
I forget her name.
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.199
Playboy?
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.440
What wait a minute, Playboy?
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.079
Uh he's fighting uh uh what's her name?
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.079
Um Captain Carrot?
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:15.039
She throws because he she throws carrot bombs at him and he goes, carrot bombs?
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.880
And then they and uh and it this this story um White Rabbit is White Rabbit, yeah, white rabbit.
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.639
And the the guy who has the uh the movie is Rocket Racer.
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:25.519
Rocket Racer.
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.559
Okay, I'm gonna have to open up my book because I need to I need to cheat a little bit on this one.
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.840
Oh, you're just breaking what we promised our listeners.
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:32.880
No, it's okay.
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.039
But the the villains are uh Bas Basilist?
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:41.440
Bas Basil Basilist uh Firebrand and White Rabbit.
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:42.159
Yes.
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.880
And so he he jumps down and they're like, we're gonna get you.
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.079
And he's like, you with a question mark.
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:55.199
And they're like, yes, it's us, and he's like, no, I mean like you, like you, like who are like who are you?
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:57.920
I love that.
00:56:58.079 --> 00:56:58.559
I don't know why.
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.760
I just thought that it's just this this is written very like much like Spider-Man.
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.400
It's very much got like, you know, Brian Michael Pendis, he wrote Ultimate, which is my favorite Spider-Man run ever.
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:12.880
Um, it was just very fun to have like a you know, like uh, you know, can I get like a roll call on like who you guys are?
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.800
And then they actually do it like like you know, my name is the White Rabbit.
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.199
What do you think about that uh fire brand?
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.199
And he's like, I'm gonna kill you.
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:27.119
It's just so like cleat niche, and uh, you know, Spider-Man fights them all, and he actually, you know, he wins.
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:36.559
And uh by the time it's over, he uh uh he webs one of them to like a pole and he's like F you Spider-Man.
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.559
And he's like, fair enough.
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:47.280
It's just it's very it's just it's very Spider-Man and um his costume is all damaged up too.
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.800
And uh he drops his Avengers card, which I forgot to mention the very beginning of this issue.
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:58.000
Uh it starts pinging and it's like Spider-Man, I need you to meet me uh at Central Park now.
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:58.239
Yeah.
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.519
And Peter's like, what did I do?
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.880
Yeah, like because it's almost like every time he gets called by the Avengers, he's in trouble for something.
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:05.599
Right, right.
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.159
And so after he leaves uh Times Square, he swings down to Central Park.
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.280
And I want you to take this scene because I think you this scene.
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.199
So uh Peter shows up, I think it's at Avengers Mansion.
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:20.559
Since I cheated, you can cheat too.
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:21.119
Oh, okay.
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.119
So Peter shows up at Avengers Mansion.
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:23.760
Oh, is it Avengers?
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:24.559
I thought it was Central Park.
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.719
I think it's it might it might be Avengers Mansion.
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:28.320
You you had the physical copy.
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.239
I did not have the It's Avengers Mansion.
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:30.559
Okay.
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:32.000
I can't read.
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.000
Well, it it's it doesn't say, it's just in the background.
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:36.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:42.639
And um and Spider-Man shows up, and Cap is like at a picnic table eating uh looks like a salad.
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:42.960
Yeah.
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.079
Um just eating a salad on Captain Rec or whatever.
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:48.239
Um wish we could all just be healthy.
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:49.599
I'm healthy.
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:50.000
Yeah.
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.960
Nothing says America like being healthy.
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:53.760
Yeah, okay.
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.000
I should have McDonald's on my buddy.
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:57.360
Yeah, okay.
00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:59.039
My second favorite Marvel character.
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:00.000
I I think I know you.
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.239
I think you should have a Diet Coke.
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.719
And a talk about a regular Coke.
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:07.840
We're Americans are clean.
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:09.280
That's true, that's true.
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:10.239
Or a Dr.
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:10.639
Pepper.
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:11.119
Yeah, a Dr.
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:11.360
Pepper.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.199
Or a Mountain Dew!
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.199
But anyway, so Spider-Man shows up and Cap's like, Oh, you've had a rough day.
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.559
And and Spider-Man's like, I've had all the days, Cap.
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.159
I have had all of them.
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:24.639
Yeah.
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:26.239
He's like, Do you need to sit?
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.199
Do you need to sit down?
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:28.000
Do you need clean up?
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:28.639
What do you need?
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.800
And Spider Man's like, just just tell me what I got called in for.
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:34.239
Like, what did I screw up?
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.199
How much trouble am I in?
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:36.800
Cap's like, why would you be in trouble?
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:37.440
With who?
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:41.199
And and Spider-Man's like, I don't know, everybody, all the time, I'm always in trouble.
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.119
I always do something, I always screw things up.
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.280
And Cap's like, you got called in, and your first thought is you're in trouble.
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.960
And Spider-Man says, Well, my persecution complex is one of my superpowers.
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.199
And Cap's like, I really don't think it is.
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.840
He hands him a box, and he's like, The reason you got called in is because Tony Stark.
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.159
I love how they're still doing the bit of like Tony Iron Man is Tony Stark's bodyguard.
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:04.719
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.800
And he's like, our friend Tony Stark uh keeps track of all of our anniversaries.
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.199
And Spider-Man's like, Anniversary of what?
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.800
He's like, the day that you make your first public appearance as Spider-Man.
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.639
And Tony wanted to make sure that you uh this event was commemorated.
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.599
And it's this weird abstract art looking thing.
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.000
It's like an art abstract art trophy of Spider-Man.
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:24.639
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.639
And um and Spider-Man's like, Tony made this?
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:35.599
And Cap says, Well, we know Spider-Man came out of some kind of family tragedy, and we know that feeling, a lot of us do.
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.880
Um, but it's hard to imagine uh that uh it's not hard to imagine that you're part of our family.
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:47.679
Uh we're awfully proud of what you've done, and your family members would be honored for what you've done in their memory, so we wanted to acknowledge it.
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.480
And Spider-Man's like, Don't make me cry, mask.
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:57.840
And he's like, We wanted to honor your occasion with uh your peers and everyone, but everybody had to take off because um everybody has laughs.
01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.360
You took too long, yeah.
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:08.079
And uh and and Cap stands up and he salutes him, yeah, and he's like, Because you think you don't, it is exactly why you matter and why you deserve it.
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:09.360
Thank you, Spider-Man.
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:11.440
And uh then the jets fly over now.
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:16.480
Not what ball is.
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:25.440
So Spider-Man's like grabbing his stomach and he's like, There was food, and Cap says, Yeah, there was, but we also had four Hulks here.
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:27.440
So uh all that food's gone.
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:28.960
He's like, Four Hulks?
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:30.400
Uh how many people were there?
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.880
And he's like, Happy anniversary, Spider-Man.
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:33.280
Yeah.
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.280
Uh he's like, I can't believe I missed it.
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.840
And so Cap says, He was your uncle, right?
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:39.840
And he's like, Yeah, my uncle Ben.
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.000
He's like, tell me about him.
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:47.039
And then that's the end of the story, and it says, For Stan and Steve, thank you.
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:49.920
This is a good one.
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:50.639
That yeah.
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.400
And I'm gonna be honest, uh, this was a very close number one.
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:54.880
Okay.
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:56.239
This was number two for me.
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:56.719
Okay.
01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:02.320
Um, and the reason this was number two was because I relate to this one a lot um in a lot of different ways.
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:07.039
Um immediately at the out the back, at the at the beginning of this book, something I can.
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:07.679
Out the back.
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:08.960
Out of the back of the book.
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:09.840
What does that mean?
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:17.440
Immediately at the beginning of this book, um, when he's looking at the poster and he's like, Man, I wish I was worth a lot.
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:22.320
You know, like immediately I was like, I was like, man, if only you knew.
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.480
You just like literally your movie this year broke every movie record of all time.
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:31.360
Like you literally beat Titanic, like no brand new day beat Titanic, and it's it's the biggest movie in the world.
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:31.679
Yeah.
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.159
Um, and it's like he he has no idea his worth.
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.880
And and I started thinking, and I was like, that feels like me.
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:42.320
That's what I feel like.
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.960
Like, you know, like I don't I don't really, you know, I just look at myself as just a dude.
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:52.559
And I don't really ever think that like sometimes I go through a lot of phases where I'm just like, man, I just don't feel like I'm worth a lot.
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.519
But when you're in your own world and you're doing your own thing, you don't feel that way sometimes.
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:03.840
Um but sometimes in the bigger in the bigger, bigger, bigger scheme of things, you're worth uh billions, you know.
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:05.440
Spider-Man's a billion dollar IP.
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:10.079
I guess not not that money's worth it, but you know, like he's worth so much in the real world.
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:17.039
If he I and I said to you on the phone, I was like, you know, Clayton, if Spider-Man was real, I think he would be the most famous person in the world.
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:17.280
Yeah.
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.079
Like genuinely.
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.960
If there was a real life Spider-Man, he would be the most famous person.
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:22.239
Everyone knows who Spider-Man is.
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:26.559
And I was like, you know, like I relate to that very closely.
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:39.119
And you know, he gets in a fight and he's you know, it's it's the it's the generic Spider-Man thing of everything where he's like, you know, he's like uh, you know, he's he's being goofy and he's having a good time and all that stuff.
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:44.880
And at the end, I love I love the like if you Spider-Man he's like, he's like, oh yeah, yeah, fair enough.
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.320
You know, like okay, cool.
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:56.559
Um, but it's also the end as well, because um, like in the end, he shows up, you know, I'm always worried that someone's mad at me about something, you know, like, okay, what did I do?
01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:03.199
You know, like, um, and you know, he's given this gift of just like, hey, you are amazing.
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:04.480
Thank you for what you do.
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:06.559
And that's that's the premise of the gift.
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.960
It's just, you know, we wanted to celebrate your first time being uh being appearing.
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:11.440
Right.
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:18.400
And like um with my movie recently that won awards and stuff, that's how I felt.
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:22.320
Because I didn't feel like like I didn't feel like I did anything special.
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:23.920
I didn't feel like I did anything good.
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.880
And in that moment I knew exactly how he felt.
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:32.320
And I was just like, that's it's the it's and and again, and it's just like the I don't deserve this.
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.360
And then like, you know, him being like, that's exactly why you deserve it.
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:40.880
It just I don't know, I related to that of like, you know, because I don't I don't feel like I'm successful a lot of the time.
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:55.119
I'm not turning this into a therapy session, I know, but like, but like I I don't I don't feel like I'm I'm successful a lot, but then when I really take a step back, it's like you know what I I am, and I'm doing very I'm I am something special and I need to just remember that.
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.800
And Spider-Man is also that too.
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:02.239
So it's like it's just you know, everything in my life is rooted back to Spider-Man on on a molecular level.
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.960
Like it's actually like I'll I'll be talking to somebody about something.
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:08.079
Um funny enough, I took one of those like political tests with my friends.
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.079
I'm like, what's your political blah blah blah?
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:20.320
And I was like, we were I was reading the questions out loud and I was like, well, honestly, like in the Spider-Man movie, and they were like, brother, do not make your political decisions based off Spider-Man.
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:26.559
And it's like, no, it's a it's it's like the the you know, it's you go through everything and it doesn't give you like if you're on the left or the right.
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.039
It's just like your Spider-Man?
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:30.960
We didn't even know that was an option.
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:40.320
Oh, you should retake the but but no, like I I like I just Spider-Man's morals and his character is so rooted in who I've become.
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.239
And like, you know, I don't know.
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.920
It's just that's what related to me the most.
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.239
So I love this story just because of those two moments.
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.880
I can relate to those very like a right now.
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.559
Like these are like right now relations, like new things in my life.
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:52.960
Right.
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:55.119
So that is why I rated it a two.
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:55.360
Okay.
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:56.800
But it's a very close one.
01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.599
I I almost gave this a one, but there was the other story.
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.239
That is a one that is the reason why it got a one, and you probably know which story that is, too.
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.440
Well, before I get there, I want I want to say this.
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:08.960
This is eight.
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.039
This was the worst.
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:11.519
Sorry.
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:13.199
I I wanna I want to say this.
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.480
And I think this is very much the point of the story.
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:22.079
And um, you might not see your worth, but those around you do.
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:25.679
And I think that's the lesson to take away from the story.
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:32.559
And for you, I don't think you see your worth as much as you should.
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:47.119
And I know this is not a therapy session, I know this is not, you know, bromance time or anything, but I'm I'm genuinely like telling you, not just I'm just telling you, just as we sit across this table, um, you don't see your worth.
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.679
And I've known you for, like I said, almost 10 years now.
01:06:50.400 --> 01:07:01.760
You've you've always been so hard on yourself, you've always beat yourself up, and you've always refused good things to happen to you, you know, when somebody tries to give you no, no, I don't deserve it.
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:05.039
No, no, you know, it's you have a good heart.
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.320
We wouldn't be doing this show if you if you weren't such a good friend.
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.760
You I wouldn't call you my brother if you weren't a good good guy.
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:18.480
You are talented and we are all proud of you.
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.440
My wife thinks you're cool.
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.119
Um she thinks you have FOMO.
01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.119
She she loves you very much.
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:28.320
My daughter loves you.
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.880
Everybody who's ever met loves you.
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:33.119
And we are all proud of you.
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.800
And um I again know that's not a therapy session.
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:42.559
Um and I think everybody listening, these people wouldn't be listening if they didn't like you.
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:48.239
And I know you've had some people message you and tell you uh a few special things to Panopirate.
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:49.920
I should probably text him back.
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.599
I don't think I've texted him back either.
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:52.880
Poor guy.
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:54.960
Sorry, Panel Pirate.
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.639
Um but they wouldn't listen if they didn't like you.
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:02.800
And yeah, and you know, everybody loves listening to your ow you and Venom rants.
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:03.280
Oh, yeah.
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:06.800
Um, that that's people just love hearing how passionate you get.
01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:11.440
And they'll be sad because we have no more content after today.
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:20.479
But yes, yeah, I just want you to know uh just like Spider-Man found out his worth from Cap and was reminded of his worth by Cap.
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:27.199
I hope that I'm able to remind you of your worth and remind you that you are an amazing person and we love you.
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:28.399
We're proud of you.
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:30.640
We want to keep you around as long as we can.
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:36.640
And that's mostly just for content, but you forgot this part of the script, Clayton.
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:37.680
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:38.159
Sorry.
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.439
Uh you're really handsome and I love your hair.
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:43.039
You smell nice.
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:45.039
Thank you.
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:49.359
If I was Spider-Man, I would say you're gonna make me cry in my mask.
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.159
Um, I appreciate it, but it it yeah, I I thank you.
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.880
I I appreciate I appreciate you, I appreciate everybody.
01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:58.640
We're gonna appreciate people.
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:10.720
Like this show is an amazing outlet for me, and it's an amazing way to get to talk to people and to relate with people, and all of us connect in this community of comic books, you know, whether it's good or bad, right?
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.840
Whether it's you know, ultimate Brian Michael Bendis or you know, Venom, all new Al Ewing.
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:20.239
Like, you know, it it's a it's a great place for all of us to just coexist.
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:22.479
So um thank you.
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:23.119
I appreciate it.
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:23.760
I appreciate it.
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:24.880
I didn't mean to get too deep there.
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.119
I was just like, I think I know how this feels.
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:28.000
That's okay.
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:28.960
Well, that's what we were talking about.
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:29.760
But that's what Spider-Man.
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:35.520
That's that's the whole point of Spider-Man is that you should you should relate to Spider-Man and like like that's the whole being of his character.
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.399
And if you're not relating to him, then something you're something's wrong.
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:38.560
Right.
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.199
Because he's he's gone through everything that everybody can relate to.
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:48.000
Yeah, and and that's what that's what we were talking about earlier, is that we we all like stories where we can see ourselves in these characters.
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:55.520
That's why you know the the big knight related to me so much was because I saw myself in that character, and you see yourself in this character.
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:57.199
This is why it means a lot to you.
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:57.600
Yeah.
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:05.520
Um now, with all this being said, all the the lovey dovey stuff we just had, um I have some heartbreaking news.
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:06.239
Oh no.
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:07.840
This one is number four for me.
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:09.199
Oh, that's okay.
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:18.800
Um, and it is number four because I don't like the beginning, which I know is kind of the point of the story, but it's not the message that I don't like.
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:26.560
There's just like some dialogue and just some wording of things that I just don't like.
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:28.159
And I love Ultimate Spider-Man.
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:28.479
Yeah.
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.319
Uh, you know, that that place all that book always holds a special place in my heart.
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:34.159
That's the one that got me through tough times.
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:40.960
Um, but like Bendis' writing or his dialogue or something just doesn't connect.
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:46.319
Like, I I like the whole, you know, I don't really matter, and then at the end you are reminded that you do matter.
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:47.119
Yeah.
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:51.039
But like just the way he talks, I do like the oh, screw you, Spider-Man.
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:52.640
And he's like, oh, fair enough.
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:53.840
Um, I do like that.
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:59.119
But like everything else, it's just something about the dialogue that just really just kind of took me out of the story.
01:10:59.199 --> 01:10:59.439
Yeah.
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.119
And so that's why it ranks lower.
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:03.439
It's Stuart Inemann's art is fantastic.
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:05.279
I love seeing him draw Captain America.
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:08.640
I miss I miss having a goodly a good written Captain America.
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:09.760
Won't get on that table.
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.239
But um Let it in.
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:13.119
Let it in.
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.039
Let it out, Clayton.
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:16.640
Um I'm about to do it.
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.560
So that's why it ranks number four for me.
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:19.039
That's okay.
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:24.880
And that's still, you know, again, like uh the the middle section of this, like the fighting is more eye candy and just enjoyment.
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:39.359
Like that was the thing of like, you know, uh I love about Peter Parker is that there's serious moments, but then the com the the fighting these stupid villains just kind of makes you forget about everything for a minute, you know, and then like you're reeled back into the the real the real situation.
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:47.199
So this was this was very close to being a one just because of the the relatability, but like um, but again, that's just a me thing, right?
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.520
Like, you know, I didn't relate with yours, and I was like, this sucks.
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:59.039
I'm just kidding, I didn't actually think um, but yes, it is a it is a two for me, almost a one, but the other story is a little bit different.
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:00.960
Okay, so uh how about I do this?
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.600
I do the next story, and then you'll do the final.
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.520
You want me to do the final?
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.159
You don't know which one's my number one, Paul.
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:20.319
I I swear if this next story is your number one, um I'm gonna have you go to the hospital and get checked out for the sake of like you don't have a disease or something.
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:21.119
What's the next story?
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:22.960
It's called Of Webs and Six Guns.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:24.560
Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.640
Maybe maybe I want to talk about this story.
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:28.960
I I think you really want to talk about the last story.
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:29.520
You're right.
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:30.800
Yeah, I thought so.
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:34.560
So, I mean, I mean you can do this story, not just do the next one.
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.560
I'm gonna be honest, I almost skimmed through this because I was so bored.
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:39.520
Yeah.
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:41.920
So so Not that it's bad.
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:44.960
It's just it's it's like, have you ever mixed?
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:46.960
Okay, let me give you a combination here.
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.600
A little little bit of uh little bit of mix and action.
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:49.920
Okay.
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:56.239
Have you ever just been like, I'm gonna make a hamburger, and then you pour vinegar all over your burger?
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.119
It's it doesn't really taste good together.
01:12:59.199 --> 01:12:59.840
You know what I mean?
01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:01.520
Or like let's say you're making a hot dog.
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:09.119
Okay, and instead you're like you got your hot dog, you got your ketchup, you got all that stuff, and then you decide to put salt on the top of the hot dog.
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.279
Doesn't work out very well, does it?
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.399
So in this story, we get Spider-Man in the Wild, Wild West.
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.479
And this isn't our our multiverse, Spider-Ver Wild West.
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:19.279
Uh, what was it?
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:19.840
Webweave?
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:22.159
No, uh Web Slinger.
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.039
Web Slinger.
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:27.680
Um, this isn't that Spider-Man, this is normal Spider-Man in the Wild West.
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:28.239
Yeah.
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:29.680
So let me take it away.
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:41.039
So um we are on a park bench in Central Park, and Mary Jane is reading a book uh reading a magazine or something, and Peter's kind of sitting there and he falls asleep on her shoulder.
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:46.239
Well, by some happenstance, he gets teleported to the past.
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.439
And Peter's kind of having this dialogue, and he's like, Well, you know, what's going on?
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:57.359
Oh, I see people fighting over there, um, and I'm just a hero, so my natural instinct is to rush in.
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:02.319
So he puts on the Spider-Man costume, he runs out, beats up the bad guys, webs them up.
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.319
He stands on his horse like Dixie Stampede.
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.640
If you don't know what that is, it's look it up.
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:11.199
Um yeah, little little local local thing over here.
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:20.159
Um he has his both feet on two different horses, um, and he's like riding backwards on them, which is a thing they do at Dixie Stampede.
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:32.800
Yeah um and so then uh he runs into a uh the rawhide kid, which is a C-list, maybe even a D-list Marvel character from the 40s.
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:49.600
I thought that was like an alternate version of like the Punisher or uh the Punisher or like Ghost Rider or something, because it looked like he had a skull on his hat, like the way the bullets were, and the it and then like his his button up had like a white like square and it kind of looked like ghost, like it, like a like a Johnny but I don't know.
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:51.039
I thought I was I didn't even know who it was.
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:51.600
Okay.
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.239
Um yeah.
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:54.000
Don't forget, this is my favorite story.
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:55.199
Yes, this is your favorite story.
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.920
So it's Woody from the Toy Story.
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:06.159
There's a snake in my book, um, and so he's there and he's like, Well, are you a friend or foe, partner?
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.479
And Spider-Man's like, Well, I guess I'm a friend.
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:10.159
I've played that game on the Wii, yeah.
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:11.359
Red Dead Redemption.
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:13.760
You know, you have Spider-Man, friend, or foe on the Wii.
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:14.800
In this old time.
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:15.680
No, kidding.
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:25.920
And um, so they they go into town together, and Peter's like, Well, there's no sense nobody knows my identity here, so I'm just gonna take off my Spider-Man costume and just go around as Peter.
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:34.319
They go into a saloon, and as any Western, uh if anybody who's ever watched a l a Western for five seconds, uh, you know there's gonna be a bar fight.
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.399
So they have erupt into a bar fight.
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.359
Peter is like, Oh, I'm gonna change back into my costume.
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.199
And he crawls into a room and this girl's like getting ready.
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:44.239
She's like changing, yeah.
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.720
And uh she's like, Oh, hello there.
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:51.680
He's like, No, I'm I'm I'm married, I'm taking oh, that's not a problem for me.
01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:53.279
Well, it is for my lady.
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:54.000
I gotta go.
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.199
And they go out and fight, and pretty much that's it.
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:06.960
They wrap up all the bad guys, and uh the lady like lifts up his mask and like kisses him on the cheek, and she's like, Well, are you gonna be leaving?
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:09.199
He's like, Well, I I don't know, I'll stick around.
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.239
It's uh yada yada until it's my time to go back.
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.640
Well, he gets pulled back to Central Park about that time.
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.680
He kind of like wakes up he wakes up from his nap.
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:19.279
It's it's a dream, it's all a dream.
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.560
And he's got uh a lipstick on his cheek.
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:22.960
Uh-huh.
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:28.000
And uh Mary Jane's like, Well, I guess it's time to go, let's go get something to eat, or something like that.
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:34.640
And um she's like, and wipe that lipstick off your face, and she wipes it, and he's like, Well, how'd you know that wasn't yours?
01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.119
Well, I don't wear that color of lipstick, and that's pretty much the story.
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:39.920
Yeah.
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.000
So let me let me go first.
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:48.000
So I think this story was included for one reason and one reason only.
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:52.560
This was written by Stanley's brother, Larry Lieber.
01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:52.960
Yeah.
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:57.600
Um Stanley's real name is Stanley Lieber, and so Stanley always just went by Stan Lee.
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:01.520
And so Larry Lieber, who's in his 90s, wrote this story.
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:04.880
And I think that's the only reason why this was included.
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.439
Now, Larry Lieber wrote uh some Spider-Man with Stanley.
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.760
Um, so maybe that's why they just wanted to give him maybe one last story.
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:14.880
Is he still alive or see?
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:16.159
Larry Lieber is still alive.
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:16.800
He's still alive, okay.
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:20.159
Yeah, uh, he's actually doing a CGC signing the uh like last month.
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:20.720
Oh really?
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:21.119
Yeah.
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:23.920
Well um, so he's still around and still kicking.
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.920
Um the art is Giuseppe Common Cole.
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:26.399
Yeah.
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:27.760
Um he also did 800.
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.239
Um, I think he did a great job on the art.
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.119
Um yeah, but I don't care about this story.
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:34.479
Yeah, I I don't either.
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:46.399
It's it's kind of just like uh it's just like a goofy, like like this reminds me of like the ultimate Spider-Man cartoon that like was on Disney that wasn't good, that was like all silly, you know what I mean?
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.880
Um this is very much like a scenario that would happen in that.
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:56.319
It's like, oh he fell asleep and now he's in the wild west and you know, and you know, oh you can get out of my bar, uh you know, spit on your shoe.
01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:57.680
You know, and that's just I don't know.
01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:58.479
It it was okay.
01:17:58.560 --> 01:17:59.600
I I gave it an eight.
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.479
I mean, I mean when I when I started reading this, I was like, I don't want to read this.
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.479
This is all I'm just already I don't care.
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:06.880
Yeah, and I immediately just threw it and I just yeah.
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:11.600
So it's just it just didn't give me it's just like a funny, it's just a fun story.
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:12.960
It's just like a funny different story.
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:23.600
Well, Larry being 90 years old, and again, no disrespect to Larry, but being 90 years old, you're gonna write they always tell you to write what you know, right?
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:29.520
And and Larry hasn't wrote any mainstream comics in years, if not decades.
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:34.479
Yeah, so he's writing what he knows, and he probably grew up with Westerns.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:36.399
Yeah, that was big back in the day.
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:36.960
Yeah.
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:41.600
So he's probably just writing what he knows, and he knows Westerns, he knows Spider-Man.
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:43.680
Why not put them together for one last story?
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:48.479
Yeah, yeehaw! Yeehaw! Uh, so this is a seven for me only.
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:51.279
This is one where the art exceeds the story.
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:51.760
Really?
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:52.079
Okay.
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:56.239
Um, so that but it could honestly be swapped out for Tears of the Spider Queen.
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:58.159
Uh, I think they're on the same level.
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:02.159
Um, stories I really don't care about, but the art is what really pushes it through.
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:02.640
Yeah.
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.039
Um, and it's just nice to see Peter and MJ together.
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:05.760
It is, it is.
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.760
Because this is this is the second story where they're together.
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:08.640
The green goblin.
01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:10.720
Yeah, this is these are wait.
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.000
They're not in the oh, you're sorry.
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:13.359
I mean, this is the second and last.
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:14.000
Sorry.
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:14.479
Yeah.
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:15.680
Yeah.
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:17.279
I'm stupid.
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:26.319
Anyway, uh, but yes, I uh I it was nice seeing them, but this one didn't get as get highlight that as much, besides the fact that he falls asleep next to her and she's like, I don't know, who kissed you?
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.159
You have a lipstick on your face, it wasn't me.
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:29.920
Yeah, I don't wear that color.
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.239
And it's like you're just letting girls come by and kiss your man while you're sitting next to him at the park.
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:35.439
All right then.
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.680
At least let's me do that often.
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:44.479
At least it's funny.
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:53.279
I funny enough, I actually had a bot comment on one of my Instagram posts recently, and it was like, hey, my friend, my friend really likes you and she doesn't know how to reach out to you.
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:57.680
And uh you you should DM her, but don't don't tell her that I I reached out, but blah blah blah blah blah.
01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:59.600
And I tagged at least I went get him.
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.039
She didn't do anything, but you know, it was still funny.
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:06.960
Get a sick em boy.
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.239
Um, but now we're down to our last story.
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:16.800
Our last story called Um Uh It's not it's called I I think it's I can Now I Can Rest.
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:17.600
Now I can rest.
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:18.000
Okay.
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:19.119
Um Now I Can Rest.
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:24.479
Um and I think I I can never rest might also be a post like a good title for it too.
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:31.439
So the point of this story is we actually follow the police officer who is chak chasing a crook.
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:36.159
And he's chasing the crook up the or he's chasing two two police officers are chasing a crook.
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:43.039
Uh the crook climbs up and he actually pops one of his bullets at one of the cops, knocks him down, and the other guy is still going after him.
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:50.479
Well, they climb into the backstage of a wrestling area where he's chasing this crook.
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:51.920
Stop him, stop him.
01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:58.800
And there's a man in a spider costume walking who politely lets him pass, gets in the elevator, and the guy's like, What's the matter with you?
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.880
You could have stopped him, you could have tripped him or something.
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:02.640
Hey man, that's not my problem, buddy.
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:04.159
I missed the part where that's my problem.
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:11.199
I missed the and um you're letting him get away with my money.
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:14.000
Bro was asking for it to be quite honest with you.
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:22.720
But um and we follow the police officer who goes back to his HQ and he's just like, you know, like uh, you know, are you not ready to retire?
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:23.680
Like it's time for you to retire.
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:25.840
He's like, I can't do it until we stop this guy.
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:27.680
This guy has killed too many people.
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:29.760
I I can we can't we have to stop him.
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:34.319
And we get a call, hey, uh I think he's been at a he's been at a house.
01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:35.600
There was a shooting at a house.
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.319
So he goes out to this house and they're walking Aunt May out who's crying.
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:46.560
And if you are if you don't know already what's going on, pretty clear, this is Amazing Fantasy 15 from the point of view of the police officer.
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:46.960
Right.
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:54.239
And um then uh they're saying, Hey, there's a young boy uh who lives here, he's probably gonna come home any minute.
01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:57.439
And he comes home and they tell him what happened, and then he runs off.
01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.079
And he's like, I'm gonna go follow this.
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:08.800
So he follows, uh, you see in the reflection of the car window, Spider-Man swinging, and they get to a warehouse, and he's like, I don't know if we should go in there, I don't know what we should do.
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.640
And then next thing you know, the thug gets thrown out the window and is webbed hanging there.
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:13.760
And he's like, A web.
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.199
And that's that's you know, then we fast forward to the present day.
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:22.000
Uh Tarantula is upside down, webbed up to a wall, and he's like, Come on, you're really gonna web me up upside down.
01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:24.479
He's like, Hey, next time I'll try to do it right side up, and he goes, Okay.
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.840
Yeah, because he's like, All the blood rushes to my head, it's hard to talk.
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:30.319
He's like, Okay, I'll keep that in mind next time.
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:39.760
Yeah, and we see the police officer walk up and he's talking to Spider-Man, who's on a which also keep in mind, this is his face is never shown as a lot of people.
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:41.119
Spider-Man's face is never.
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:48.560
Maybe because the focus is not Spider-Man in this story.
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:49.359
Yeah.
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:50.079
Maybe.
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:50.640
Kind of.
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:51.199
Yeah.
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.680
Um or or you already know this story for the most part.
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:56.159
Yeah.
01:22:56.319 --> 01:23:00.560
But um, but he says, after all these years, you probably don't remember me, do you?
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.000
And he's like, No, I do.
01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.279
Uh you out or you you ought to run me in.
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.880
Because that's what he had said uh to that's what was said earlier, I think.
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:14.720
Um no, because yeah, because whenever he lets the guy go, he says, I ought to run you in for letting him go.
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.199
And he's like, Yeah, that's right, that was me.
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:18.720
I I owe you an apology.
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:22.239
This is the this is the guy talking to Spider-Man talking to Spider-Man.
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:23.359
And he's like, What?
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:24.159
But I screwed up.
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:25.279
I let that guy get away.
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.279
He got away from me a couple times.
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.479
All those people he was hurting, it was eating me alive.
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:31.600
You have no idea.
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.880
So yeah, you screwed up, but then you stepped up.
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:40.319
You did what I couldn't, you caught him, and thanks to you, only one other person died.
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:42.479
Uh when there could have been so many more.
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.119
Because of you, I can finally rest.
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:45.760
Thank you.
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.800
And then at the bottom of the page it says, I can never rest.
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:53.760
So um I think both of both of us have put this in the same spot.
01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:55.840
I think this is both number one for us.
01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:59.279
No, no, yours never number one was uh the still stand.
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:00.800
So I'm assuming this is two.
01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:01.680
This is three.
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:02.640
Three, okay.
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:03.680
Interesting.
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:08.000
Uh yeah, this is this is number one for you, so you go first.
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:12.880
So I put this at number one, um, mainly for another relatable reason.
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:21.520
Uh when I was in college, I had to write an essay on um some uh of what would I get tattooed on my body and why.
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:25.840
And the picture that I picked was the final panel in Amazing Fantasy XV.
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:27.279
That's a lot of words.
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.720
Well, not the words, but just like the image of Spider-Man under the streetlight.
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:30.880
Yeah.
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:32.239
That was my image.
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:34.319
And just the whole face.
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:37.039
Like your whole back is just the man.
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:39.359
Clayton, this hurts.
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:40.239
I can't lay down.
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:41.680
I've been here for 12 hours.
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:43.199
Kill me.
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.079
Have you seen the guy who gets the the soldier tattooed on his back?
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:56.800
And he's like, he he they he they did it all in one sitting, and it's like this super high-detailed soldier, like America thing on his back, and he's like shaking vigorously with how much pain he's in.
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.560
Yeah, that's what I imagine I would be.
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:07.680
Um, but um, I love this story because um I love it when we get a story that already exists that's from the different perspective of someone else, and this actually works.
01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.880
Um, it's written by Dan Slot, who we've both we both love his writing.
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.279
I'm a big Dan Slot Spider-Man fan myself.
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:20.479
And um, it's so it's so nice to s to get this story, and it's like this can totally be like retconned and worked.
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:20.720
Yeah.
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:21.199
For sure.
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:24.479
Like I I'm perfectly fine with this taking place before Amazing Fantasy XV.
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:26.159
Like that actually being the story.
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:38.239
And um, you know, it uh when I think about that essay, one of my big things about this issue, which I also gave a speech in college about Amazing Fantasy XV and why it's important.
01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:43.760
And my big thing is that, you know, like this is the birth of a hero, is that all of us humans we make mistakes.
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:47.680
I've made mistakes, you've made mistakes, we've all made mistakes that we we regret.
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.760
But it's how you continue your life and it's how you redeem yourself that that matters.
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.199
Mistakes can matter, but do they?
01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:59.279
You know, your mistakes don't matter.
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:01.039
You can always grow.
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:03.760
And it's always about growing, growing and becoming the better person.
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:09.840
And also, like, you know, sometime in life, sometimes you just you you're you're tired, and Spider-Man's tired, man.
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.319
Like he's he's worn out, he's exhausted.
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:21.439
And I think allowing this police officer to finally rest while he kind of takes the mantle, you know, it's almost like a like a legacy thing for this guy.
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:34.479
Like if I was a police officer and I was retiring, and as I retire, a superhero takes over, like I feel like I lived my legacy to fulfill, or I I can rest my legacy for this person to take it up because he's clearly ready for the job.
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:38.239
So this is number one for me just because of that story.
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:44.479
It's it's almost a two because of the other story and how much it relates to me, but this one just like this.
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.760
Um I actually got the variant cover that represents this story.
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:52.239
Um and I love that final page of just the uh I can never rest.
01:26:52.319 --> 01:27:03.359
And it shows the police officer walking to to like the the screen, I guess you'd say, and then uh Peter Parker, Spider-Man, is on the light pole looking down, and it's just it's an amazing image.
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:03.920
Yes.
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:05.359
So that's why I picked it.
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.199
So for me, this is number three.
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:11.439
Um and that's not because this is a bad story or anything like that.
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:16.399
For me, it just didn't it didn't relate like the others to the other two did.
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:18.479
Um still great.
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:19.359
I I think you're right.
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:27.520
Uh we talked about this on the phone, is that it it does I do really like when stories take an existing story and tell things from a different perspective.
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:28.159
Yeah.
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:33.199
Um I I really like that, and of course, I love Amazing Fantasy 15.
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:40.880
Um, and so honestly, the problem that I ran into here was the same one that you've had with several other stories, is it's gotta go somewhere.
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:48.399
And unfortunately, I know what my favorite story is, and my second one really meant a lot, so it had to go number three.
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:48.880
Yeah.
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:55.600
Um, but overall, still a great story, and you know, something something you said, and I think this is the the core of Spider Man.
01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:15.760
Spider Man's core is that you never give up, and and that you know that's Why I love that's why my Untouchable Six Amazing Spider-Man 30 33 is in there where he's lifting the rubble because it's like anybody can can be a hero when um things are easy, but it's when things are hard and you that you could you push forward and you be a hero.
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:25.039
And I actually, because you know everything I do relates back to the Bible, uh something that comes to mind here is actually Romans chapter 3, verses 3 through 5.
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:26.239
And we'll read it real quick.
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:42.000
Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:46.000
So I bring that up here because um Spider-Man is all about suffering.
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:50.000
Spider-Man suffers, and and nobody likes to suffer.
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.439
Um I mean, if you did, you'd be crazy.
01:28:53.760 --> 01:29:00.079
So, you know, but but but I've always said the greatest stories point back to the greatest story ever told.
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:10.000
Spider-Man is somebody who suffers, but in his suffering, it produces is endurance to keep going, and that endurance produces his character.
01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:14.640
This is why we love Spider-Man, because we we look up to him and we're like, I want to be like him.
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:21.039
I want to, I I want to live through my sufferings like he does, and that produces hope.
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:32.239
And then, but of course, in the greater scheme of things, when we go through sufferings, we can look to Christ to give us hope because his character was far greater than our own and far greater than Spider-Man.
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:32.640
Yeah.
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:37.439
Um, and uh, and for me, that's that's really Spider-Man is a great hero.
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:38.720
Spider-Man is what I looked up to.
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:45.439
Spider-Man got me through being bullied, Spider-Man got me through difficult times, as as he did for you and for people listening.
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:49.600
Um but our ultimate hope is not in Spider-Man, right?
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:51.039
Our ultimate hope is in Christ.
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:51.439
Right.
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:54.720
And um so I absolutely, yeah.
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:56.720
The story is I can never rest.
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.359
Um but I I yeah, I it's it's good.
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:02.399
It's just a good story.
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:03.439
It's a very good story.
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:07.680
And I and I think it has, like I said, great stories point back to the greatest story.
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:11.600
So I think there's these elements of echoes in in in the gospel.
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:12.079
Yeah.
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.840
But but that's that's Amazing Spider-Man a thousand.
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.520
Was this the best issue milestone it could have been?
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:20.000
No.
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.279
No, but um, you know, we did get some good stories out of it.
01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:35.119
I think it allowed us to kind of play with some things and um to kind of drive away since the amazing Spider-Man title has been a little bit rough here recently with the writers and and editorial and whatnot.
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:39.439
Um, do you want to go through our ranks one more time just to kind of go cover everything in order?
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:39.920
Sure.
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:44.479
Uh do you want to do do you want to do worst to best or do you want to do uh best to worst?
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:46.079
Let's do worst to best.
01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:46.399
Okay.
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:47.119
You want to go first?
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:47.680
Do you want me to go?
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.640
So my worst was uh of webs and six guns.
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:52.880
Okay, mine was Tears of the Spider Queen.
01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:53.359
Okay.
01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.279
Number seven for me was the big knight.
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:55.600
Okay.
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.760
Of Webs and Six Guns for me.
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:01.199
Uh number six was for me was Tears of the Spider Queen.
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:01.520
Okay.
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.439
For me, it's Requiem for a Goblin.
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:04.079
That's mine.
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:05.039
That's my number five.
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:05.600
Okay.
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.239
Uh for my number five is Ravaged.
01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:08.800
Yeah.
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:10.800
My number four is Ravaged.
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:12.800
My number four is the jester.
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:13.279
Okay.
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:15.680
Uh, my number three is still standing.
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:16.079
Okay.
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:17.600
My number three is I can never rest.
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.279
My number two is the jester.
01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:20.880
My number two is the big knight.
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:21.359
Yeah.
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.199
Uh my number one is now I can rest.
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:24.560
My number one is still standing.
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:24.960
Yep.
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:26.479
So pretty close, actually.
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:27.520
Yeah, all things considered.
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:29.039
Yeah, we we we were pretty good.
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:33.039
Um, I think there was just a few little like there was a few that we had like complete polar opposites.
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:38.000
But I think that's interesting to see like how you and me both have read different stories and how we take different things.
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.840
I think and honestly, I I think it's just where we are in life.
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:47.760
And you know, I I think my stories I truly my stories relate to me because of being a father.
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:48.319
Right.
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:53.199
Your stories, you your story right now in your life is not that you're a father.
01:31:53.359 --> 01:32:05.760
You're uh you're working on your career and you're balancing all these things, and uh so those stories that kind of relate to your purpose and and what you're doing, those are gonna naturally I think relate more to you.
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.560
If uh I I'll tell I'll say this, I'll say this to our fans.
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:13.279
If there's anybody who has a story relating to any of these stories, comment.
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:13.920
Let us know.
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:15.840
What do you mean, story like they've written?
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:22.720
Oh well, just like if anyone has like a uh if any of these stories in Amazing A Thousand relates to you, let us know.
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:22.960
Yeah.
01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:33.600
Because like I think it's really cool to see how so far, like this, all of these stories in this issue, how it's making us relate in different ways, or how like we relate to Spider-Man in different ways.
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:33.760
Right.
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:36.880
So um, if you've got any cool ones that you would like to share, share with us.
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:38.159
Yeah, just why not?
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:39.520
We'd love to hear it.
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:39.920
Yeah.
01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:44.720
Um, and and actually, if you do have any stories before we get into Paul's fantastic.
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:46.159
You heard my breath.
01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:46.720
Yeah.
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:51.359
Um, if you do have any stories that you have written, um, we'd like to hear those too.
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.439
We we uh I know several people have reached out and shared us some comics that they have.
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:57.600
There's some people that are comic book writers in here, yeah.
01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:04.159
And artists, um there's one story I read recently uh called the uh Advarian.
01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:06.000
Um it's very good.
01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:08.800
Um the writer has actually been working with Scott Snyder.
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:09.439
Yes.
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:11.680
Um very good.
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.760
Um uh we might have to do more of a review later on.
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:20.159
Um, but yeah, if you write stories or you create stories, we'd love to hear those.
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:30.640
But also let's let's hear what stories related to you and why in the comments, or feel free to message us on Instagram uh at Comic Nation 1776, or Paul Fine.
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:31.760
Or yeah, or our email.
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:34.079
We have our email too, uh, beyond thepool list at gmail.com.
01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:34.319
Right?
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:34.880
Yep, yep.
01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:35.840
So I keep forgetting it.
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:37.920
Uh we gotta throw that in there.
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:39.119
Um, all right, Paul.
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.439
This is gonna be a big day for you.
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.600
The closeout, the finale, the the no more content episode.
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:47.520
The all new venom, no more.
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:48.399
Yes.
01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:49.920
No, yeah.
01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:51.760
Hopefully, no more.
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:53.199
We might be making a comeback.
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:54.640
So this is you.
01:33:54.880 --> 01:34:00.800
So, okay, and uh you I've also asked, I asked you to read Queen and Black because I would love to really talk about this with you.
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:02.800
I don't I don't want to hold the stage too long.
01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.399
Okay, but what I plan on doing is I have three books related to Queen and Black.
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:11.520
I have Venom 262, which is Al Ewing's last Venom issue in his run.
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:17.680
We have Queen and Black number five, which is again, I guess, like a side profile last story of his as well.
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:29.279
And then we have Venom Unchained number three, which is the last story, I guess, in this arc uh regarding uh Eddie Brock's story that then also moves into Venom number one coming out this month in October.
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:29.600
Okay.
01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:32.159
Um and Venom Unchained is also written by Charles Sowell.
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:37.680
So I consider Venom Unchained number three the the true ending of this story.
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:41.520
Um, because Queen in Black number five is a rough one.
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.520
I yes, and I read it just for you.
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:56.319
And after and after, and also what I'm gonna do too is after we review all three of these books, I'm gonna give my big close-out just statement about this run and kind of how it's been handled, what they've been doing.
01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:57.760
And and here's what I'm gonna do.
01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.600
I'm gonna try to not yell this time.
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.960
I'm gonna try to not get as mad as I did last time because I I got mad.
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:03.600
I got real mad.
01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:06.000
And I'm but I'm I'm gonna be mature.
01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:16.960
I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be a grown-up about this, and I am gonna be, I'm gonna use my brain, and I'm gonna let my brain, because you know, just because someone yells doesn't mean that they're listened to.
01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:18.079
You see what I'm saying?
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:26.720
I was gonna make a dumb joke and be like, your your whole review is gonna be like, beep you, value, beep you, you, beep.
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:36.880
Um, so I'm gonna try to be so so if I do get mad during the the the explanation of the comic books, hear my final statement.
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:38.960
Just like it'll be at the end of all this.
01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:41.680
So let's start with Queen and Black number five.
01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:48.479
Queen in Black number five is my most hated single issue of all time.
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.399
I'm and I'm I'm not just that's not me over exaggerating.
01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:53.279
That's not me.
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.880
Like, I genuinely cannot think of a single comic that I hate.
01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:59.279
Actually, no, I can think of one that, but this one is worse.
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:00.239
Is it that wing?
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:02.159
No, the that's funny though.
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:06.800
The the one I hate is the one where uh it was like a Venom X-Men crossover book.
01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:07.119
Okay.
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:09.439
You you're gonna it's gonna click for you in a minute.
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:17.840
It's the one where uh Venom, the Symbio and Eddie explore their uh their sex drives.
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:19.119
Yes, I remember that.
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:22.000
I remember reading that and I was like, I hate this.
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:23.840
This is the worst thing I've ever read.
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:36.239
Um this this trumps that now for sure because this is I came across that book in my box the other day, and I was like, oh, you're still here.
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:37.920
I have never left.
01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:41.600
I haven't even on a no I've been in this box the whole time.
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:49.039
Don't we're just gonna keep on moving uh from that.
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.960
That brings a whole new meaning that she stole his goo.
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.079
Anyway, no.
01:36:56.479 --> 01:37:02.479
So uh again, Queen in Black number five is the worst comic I've ever read, the worst single issue that I've ever read.
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.119
And we're gonna we're gonna I'm gonna review it as quickly as possible.
01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:05.439
Okay.
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.319
So we get into the beginning where we have Hella versus Null.
01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:14.479
They're fighting, and again, this is the this is probably what the third panel in the entire Queen and Black series.
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:18.640
Main the main title where we actually see them fighting.
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:23.600
I don't I didn't even I've I've not read their fight or seen their fight or nothing because I'm not picking up Defenders of Light and Dark.
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:27.680
For this event, I'm only picking up Venom, Venom Unchained, and Queen and Black.
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.840
So already this fight between these two should be in the main book.
01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.920
It's not, whatever, let's move on.
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:42.399
So they're fighting, and Hella absorbs Null, and we see Beta Ray Bill being like, This is this was all part of Tony Stark's plan B.
01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:53.600
Let's attack and attacks uh Hella uh and he slams her his hammer on her head and kills her, and null bursts through her her stomach and arises out of her.
01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:57.600
And he's like, I am I am the the king in all.
01:37:57.760 --> 01:37:59.920
I am the king of light and dark.
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:02.079
I am, you know, I'm I'm null.
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:09.520
And uh uh he says he says uh all the glorious light and endless darkness in one being, the king in all.
01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:13.600
I am everything, all the better to end everything.
01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:27.760
And then we hear someone say, Hi there, and we see it is Venom World, which uh if you don't know what Venom World is, it's it's labeled as every sent every sentient being on earth has bonded with the Venom Symbiote.
01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:32.159
To be quite honest with you, it's just the Venom Symbiote bonded with the planet, is really what it is.
01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:34.560
And he says, How's your day going?
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.359
to Noel.
01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:36.399
I love the voice.
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:40.159
You gotta keep it up.
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:46.159
Um, so Noel kind of appears outside and he's just like, you know, I could destroy you with my fingertips.
01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:48.319
You know, I'm I'm I'm the god of all.
01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:51.600
I'm the or like I'm the god of everything, the light and the dark.
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.960
And he's like, You ain't seen nothing yet.
01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:59.840
And he's like, and his tongue comes out and and rips Null's arm off.
01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:04.000
It it cuts through Null's arm, and he's like, Huh, I'm more symbiote than I thought I was.
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:05.359
How interesting.
01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:14.239
And he he gets rid of his body, becomes pure energy, and flies inside of Venom's Venom's mouth.
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:19.840
Um and we also cut to the Venom Mindscape where all of the heroes are in there.
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:23.279
They all have black and white costumes or gray and white black costumes for some reason.
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:26.640
They don't look symbiofied, they just look like gray and white.
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:31.520
And of course, Codex has a new look, as this is probably his fifth new look out of this entire run.
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:42.239
Um and Null appears as a giant entity, just saying, like, you know, I you know, uh uh, and how am I among you, the nothing in your hearts?
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:49.199
Over eight billion of you crawling, muling, uh, puking little animals, and all of you against all the others.
01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:51.840
Uh, not even a common language to speak.
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.079
Meanwhile, I am pure and perfect void.
01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:59.199
The void made flesh, and my only desire is for the void to consume all.
01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:02.319
I'm the big bad guy, blah, is pretty much what he says.
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:02.960
Yes, yeah.
01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.840
And all of the heroes are like, okay, let's go.
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:07.439
And he just swats them all away.
01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:14.640
What's what's really annoying about that particular moment is Wolverine saying, All right, Emma, like, let's do the fastball special.
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:20.640
And she literally just uses her telepath powers to throw everybody at her.
01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:21.920
Yeah, literally, yeah.
01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:33.199
And uh, yeah, and then we see uh uh he turns around and there's a giant MJ in this world, and she's like, uh, uh, that's how we win.
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:38.000
Because uh, you know, Null says so very ordinary, like, you know, you're just ordinary people.
01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:39.920
And she's like, That's how we win.
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:49.520
And I'm about to give you, I'm just like, I have to read this because it's honestly like it's it's I'm just gonna say it.
01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:55.279
We defeat Null in this book by the power of unity, is how Null gets defeated.
01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:07.680
The god of the void, the first being to exist in the universe, the creator of the all black, the creator of the symbiotes, god of the symbiotes, king in black, the lord of the abyss, is beaten by the power of friendship.
01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:10.319
What the fuck?
01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:15.199
Sorry, but what the fuck is this?
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.279
Um, MJ is talking about how there's eight billion people.
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:26.159
Uh eight billion of us, no, and almost every one of us is just an ordinary person living an ordinary life.
01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:28.079
You're the special one here.
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.600
Uh, just like you say, you're the embodiment of the void.
01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:35.680
And since you left your body uh behind, that's all you are.
01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:38.880
You're you're pure in a way that we can't be.
01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:46.720
The pure uh concept of emptiness, nothing but nothing, this biggest nothing in the universe, in a room with eight billion somethings.
01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.199
And then you start hearing words come in, and the first word you hear is dog biscuits.
01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:53.119
Dog biscuits.
01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:54.319
He left me.
01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:59.760
Uh hot butter toast, mother said to hide, uh, heat up the beans and and add them.
01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:01.359
I can't believe he left like that.
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:02.479
Everything was so loud.
01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:05.439
It's like all these little voices coming in saying random things.
01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:09.760
And NJ goes on and she says, Uh, do you think that was a good idea?
01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:15.199
And he's like, he hears all the voices, dog biscuits, beans, and it's butter toast.
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:17.279
And then he's like, What?
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:17.840
What?
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:21.279
No, no, stop it! Uh all their voices.
01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:25.600
Uh the the things, the the yammering uh about tiny things, stop it.
01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:26.399
Do you hear me?
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:27.840
I'm in control here, stop it.
01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.920
Maybe drop a fried egg on lend me your ears, dropping bombs every day.
01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:36.000
Not even a text and uh cat treats and these I'm actually reading words.
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:37.359
These are actual words from the book.
01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:39.279
I'm not making any of these random things up.
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:40.079
These are actual words.
01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:49.920
And MJ says, eight billion people, eight billion and I have sorry, I'm I'm try I I I'm having to read this beat for beat just because of the fact that this is it's atrocious.
01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:58.319
Uh eight billion people, eight billion lives, eight billion supporting players, and uh all together to do what their superheroes couldn't do alone.
01:42:58.479 --> 01:42:59.199
All those lives.
01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.600
Wait, hang on, let me hold this up so I can actually read it better.
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.279
Um, all those lives.
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:05.119
Well, shoot, I already lost my spot again.
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:12.800
Because those lives are full of wars and loves and accidents and flowers and deaths and breakfasts and Shakespeare plays and dog biscuits.
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:14.000
And then you hear more voices.
01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:16.479
Uh wish for those I mean, don't even have a cat.
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:18.079
Just go English, why not?
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:30.479
Uh the God And then you see and injuries and loose change and birthday candles and atrocities and phonies and hurricanes and dental appointments and everything else that anyone ever did or saw or said or felt.
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:36.800
Every life full of full to bursting with beautiful, heartbreaking, meaningless, meaningful somethings.
01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:38.720
And now you're stuck, Null.
01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.000
You're stuck in here with all of it.
01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:51.920
No, no, all the voices and just fades into nothing.
01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:57.920
And then we see all the heroes like, oh, oh, we did it! We we beat him! We beat him! Well, where's MJ?
01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:01.600
And MJ's like, ah! Because she her brain is also being weird.
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:06.560
And then you see Venom World, it's looking around in the universe going, Mary Jane?
01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:11.039
All the symbiotes come off of the planet, and then Earth is fine.
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:13.920
And then Logan goes, I'll be damned.
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:15.119
It's over.
01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:28.159
We cut to we cut to sometime later in the Baxter building, where Reed Richards is talking to MJ, saying, Your atoms, they're they're fixed, you're you're all better, you're everything's like, I I don't understand, it doesn't make any sense.
01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:37.520
And and it's like uh uh, you know, he was exponentially powered for a moment, and Venom was bonded with every mind on the planet, so he probably found a cure for your problem.
01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:39.439
You're you're healed, Mary Jane.
01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:57.359
Now, if you recall, the reason Mary Jane has been bonded to Venom is because uh because of Paul's little gambling jackpot machine, uh it landed on three skulls, which then was uh was disintegrating her by her atoms, and the symbiote bonded with her to keep her together.
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:02.319
And that's the reason why they couldn't separate because if they did she would just disintegrate.
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:04.640
And yeah, so it's just healed.
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:07.279
Everything's just fine, everything's back to normal, and everything's better.
01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:14.399
Um and she kind of talks to uh you know Reed and she's like, I I just you know, is it weird that I miss Venom?
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:19.920
You know, for the moment we really were friends, or you know, at the very least we were roommates, and now he's gone forever.
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:23.680
And he's like, I don't know, you know, like I felt the same way about Victor Von Doom.
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.399
You know, he's about to be in the next Avengers, so I need to talk about him for a minute.
01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:30.239
Uh uh even if Venom survived, he's he probably found a new host.
01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:38.239
Uh, you know, there could be one person over eight billion, and eight billion, they keep saying eight billion people, and they keep referring to like the planet of eight billion people.
01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:39.039
I don't know why.
01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:41.119
That's just something that it's consensus something.
01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:45.279
They really wanted to emphasize emphasizing that there's eight billion people on the world.
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:52.079
Um and they're just saying, like, you know, you know, it had to bond with some random person, or maybe it just didn't bond with anyone and it's just gone.
01:45:52.239 --> 01:45:54.800
And we're just gonna pretend like Venom maybe vanished away.
01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:55.760
I don't know.
01:45:56.000 --> 01:46:00.640
Um, and then we cut to what I would argue is the better part of the book.
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:04.319
Um Null is in, I guess, the unbeyond.
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:10.319
I don't know what that is, but uh it says in the war for the throne in black, uh, there could only be one winner.
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:14.159
And uh he's like, Oh, my throne, it's still there waiting for me.
01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:19.760
And you hear, uh, like it's empty, it's supposed to be empty, I'm the void that's supposed to fill my throne.
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.319
And Sleeper is like, but it isn't empty.
01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:30.079
And uh you see Sleeper's eyes pop up, and he has taken the throne, and the sleeper sleeper is now the king in black.
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:31.199
Why?
01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:32.800
I don't know.
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:34.880
He just kind of did became that way.
01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:36.399
And that's the end of the book.
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:39.760
That's the end of Donnie Cate's or that's the end of Al Ewing's Venom.
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:42.239
That's at least the end of Queen in Black.
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:46.880
There's a another ending in his solo book, Venom 262.
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:56.079
Now, before we get to that, which I will review a lot quicker because it's kind of just this copied and pasted into a different book with a little bit of difference differences here and there.
01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:57.439
This is awful.
01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:00.560
This is this is a really awful way to end an event.
01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:05.840
We have ended this event with literally the biggest nothing sandwich I've ever had.
01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.319
We beat null with the power of unity.
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:14.399
And it's like it's it's I can't help but stop and think like this is the end?
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:15.439
This is your ending?
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.720
Like you've been writing this book for four years, Al.
01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:22.159
You've been writing this since what, 2021, 2022?
01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:24.000
And here we are in 2026.
01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:25.039
Oh, five years.
01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:25.439
Yeah.
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:41.279
And this is the way your book ends with with Mary Jane bonding the symbiote with everybody on the planet, and then just, you know, we all work together, and you're just disintegrated, and that's it by the power of we're the somethings, and you're you're you're the void of nothing.
01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:46.159
You're the god of nothing, and we're somethings, and something is better than nothing, and you're nothing, and we're something, and we win.
01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:47.039
That's that's the end.
01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:47.840
That's literally it.
01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:50.880
And I I'm I I I I'm crashing out a little bit.
01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:52.960
Do it, dude, do it, do it.
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:54.319
It's stupid.
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:55.039
It's dumb.
01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:56.800
This is so dumb.
01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.399
This is the dumbest way to end the book.
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:00.239
And honestly, I stuck out.
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:09.199
I stuck through this nightmare of my favorite character being ripped apart and changed and turned into Mary Jane and Queen in black and this, that, and the other.
01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:12.880
This was just a waste of of time, energy, and money.
01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:17.520
Like, this is a story that was written and printed and stapled and sent to me is what it was.
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:25.439
And it's like, this is the best you can come up with for your end, is just like, and then also the thing with Mary Jane and her ad like it that's just nothing.
01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:27.760
That's we're just not gonna figure that out, and that's just it.
01:48:27.920 --> 01:48:32.960
She doesn't have to make some big sacrifice of her life to to free the symbio or to save everybody.
01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:34.319
It's just it's just over.
01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:41.199
Just because everybody in the world can scream about dog biscuits and ramen noodles and whatever, and toast and this, that, and the other, and no just disintegrates.
01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:42.560
That's what it was.
01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.039
Like, that's the that's how they beat Noel.
01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:45.600
That's it.
01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:46.399
Yeah.
01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:47.680
Pathetic.
01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:49.760
That's what I have to say about it.
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:51.920
Um, anyway, let's move on.
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.399
Let's move on, because I I I wanted to kind of talk about all of this in one big summary at the end.
01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:01.199
Um, so let's move on to Venom 262, which is the last Venom title.
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:05.119
Um, pretty much what happens in it is it's the same story from a different perspective.
01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:15.600
We see um when Venom World consumes everybody, we see Um Mary Jane is actually everybody's kind of in their own different like reality almost.
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.319
So like everybody's frozen in this venom mindscape.
01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:18.640
Okay.
01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:24.800
So which is already counteracting what's happening in Queen in Black because everybody's not frozen and just chilling there in the ether.
01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:27.840
Um in this universe, everybody's in their own little reality.
01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:29.279
In this universe, yeah.
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:32.079
And uh I guess in the same universe, different comic.
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:45.439
Uh, but MJ's reality is she's sitting there having a cup of coffee with Venom, and they're having a cup of coffee together, and she's like, So I guess this is kind of the end, and he's like, Yeah, um, you know, we gotta do something, because uh, you know, whatever.
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.760
And then I guess he has this feeling of like, oh, Hella just died.
01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:51.119
Something's happening.
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:59.680
And so they swing away and go to a theater, and which uh in the theater, Mary Jane's on on stage with Venom, and they're arguing.
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.159
Like they're they're all they get to the point where they're almost fighting.
01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:06.800
You know, like she's like, you know, you like I you're the one who threw Paul off the roof.
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:08.239
And he's like, it's not that simple.
01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:10.000
I didn't throw Paul off the roof.
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:11.279
We threw Paul off the roof.
01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:12.159
It's both of us.
01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:14.640
Like the whole point of us being bonded is a we thing.
01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:16.079
You mean torment, not Paul?
01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:16.880
Torment.
01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:17.680
Yeah, sorry, my bad.
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:24.800
Um and um so they keep arguing and mid-argument, uh, Venom stops and goes, Eddie?
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:26.159
And then disappears.
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:26.479
Hmm.
01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:28.399
Which will relate to Venom Unchained.
01:50:28.479 --> 01:50:29.520
We'll get to that in a minute.
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:32.560
Um, which again is the true ending of this book, in my opinion.
01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:37.199
Um, and then MJ is on this stage and she's like, I have to tell everybody that everything's okay.
01:50:37.359 --> 01:50:38.960
How do I I don't know how to do this?
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:43.359
Uh like she's like, I just gotta be the actor that I've always meant been mean meaning to be.
01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:53.439
And she's on this stage, there's a spotlight, and she goes, Everyone, if you can hear me, and she says the big announcement from the end of the first issue of Queen in Black, where she's like, We we're all Venom World, right?
01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:54.000
Yeah.
01:50:54.239 --> 01:51:01.840
And uh then you hear clapping, and Null steps up on stage from the audience, uh, and he's like, Oh, hello, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:05.920
And um, then the book just kind of ends, is what I last said.
01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:11.359
Well, I remember because I skimmed through it and that um Eddie is at the end of it.
01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:11.760
Yes.
01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:13.680
And he's something like we'll make it more popular.
01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:14.319
Oh yes.
01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:17.199
We um so we we have the same argument.
01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:22.720
So, like literally Noel walks up on stage and they have that final battle that takes place in Queen in Black number five.
01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:28.800
So the thing that happened in issue one of Queen in Black and issue five is happening in this same book.
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:29.359
Okay.
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.119
Because, you know, she's giving that speech to everybody, being like, We're all Venom World.
01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:33.279
Yeah.
01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:40.800
And then what, like immediately after Null walks up on stage, and that's when he's like, you know, you're a house divided, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and you're you're the nothing.
01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:42.399
And she's like, No, I'm not nothing.
01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:43.279
We're somethings.
01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.640
And she gives her monologue about how she is something.
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:53.359
And there is a really cool splash page of like No being disintegrated, and you see all these moments through Mary Jane's life, and then at the bottom is Venom.
01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:54.399
It's a cool, it's a cool page.
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:54.720
Okay.
01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:55.439
Not gonna lie.
01:51:55.520 --> 01:52:03.439
And then we immediately just cut her on the top of the Statue of Liberty with Spider-Man, and they're talking, and uh, you know, he's like, you know, they're making sure everything's okay.
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:10.399
And it turns out that the uh anti-carnage symbiote, which is the gold piece of Venom, yeah, is now uh her bracelet.
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:12.159
She's kept it as a little symbiote.
01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:17.039
And he's she's like, oh, it's great, you know, I can use it to if I drop my keys, I can make a new key or whatever.
01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:20.079
And it's just my little personal symbiote that I can have on me.
01:52:20.319 --> 01:52:25.840
And um, you know, she's actually like, hey, you know, I really wish that, you know, I hope the symbiote's okay.
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:29.199
And, you know, I don't know who killed uh Torment.
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.399
It's still it's you know, he she says the same thing that Venom told her.
01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:35.600
It's it's you know, it's complicated, which is what Venom said to her.
01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:42.239
And um, you know, they they they she leans on Peter's head saying, you know, you know, thanks, Peter.
01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:43.279
Goodbye, Venom.
01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:49.920
And then we cut flash forward to Eddie Brock in his apartment, and this is really weird because this is not how it goes in Venom Unchained.
01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:50.239
Okay.
01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:54.399
Like he's in a situation, he's like, he's like, we finally did everything we needed to get you back.
01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:57.840
You know, now we're together again, and nothing can separate us.
01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:02.159
You know, you know, uh, I'm going to make this symbiote perfect.
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:03.600
We are Venom.
01:53:03.840 --> 01:53:05.359
And that's the end of Al Ewing's run.
01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:14.560
And I'm not gonna lie, when I read this page, there was this overwhelming like feeling that I can't describe of just like, we won Mr.
01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:15.199
Stark.
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.520
Almost like it was almost like, yeah.
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:23.680
Um, so that was the end of Al Ewing's Venom issue, which was similar but different.
01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:31.600
And finally, we have Venom Unchained, which it's uh pretty similar along the same plot line, is we have Eddie and Sleeper.
01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:41.119
They're both uh they wake up after um the first issue of Queen and Black when uh I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll not read look I can I can get through this one quick because it's actually memorable.
01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:58.800
Um uh he wakes up uh after helping um he wakes up after helping Dylan get out of the symbiote intelligence and he's like I blacked out what happened and sleeper's like oh yeah you beat everybody side eye and he's like okay this is weird what it what are you doing?
01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:06.880
You're doing something and he's like it doesn't matter, we gotta we gotta go fight and they're on the roof and they're talking and he's like you just you need to explain to me what's really going on.
01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:10.159
And he's like, I've got a plan, kind of a plan.
01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:13.039
Um he's like, I'm just trying to play my cards right.
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.000
The sleeper's talking to Eddie, and he's like, I don't know what that means.
01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:17.359
And he's like, You're about to find out.
01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:20.560
And you see the top of the Baxter building explode with the symbiote.
01:54:20.640 --> 01:54:23.119
So this is referring to when the symbiote starts to overtake everything.
01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:24.880
And he's like, What do we do?
01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:27.039
And sleeper's like, just let it happen.
01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:30.880
And then they get the symbiote overcomes them, and then they wake up in the hive mind.
01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:35.760
So while they're in the hive mind, Eddie Brock's like, I don't I don't know what we're supposed to do.
01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:39.760
And um, he's like, you know, you need to call out to Venom.
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.239
If Venom's gonna listen to anybody, it's gonna listen to you.
01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:53.039
Also, I forgot to mention there's one of these books, I think it's the Venom book, when they see the Manhattan in the in this in the like distance, uh Peter and Reed Richards, they say Venom, Venom Hatton or something.
01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:55.279
They call it Venom Hatton anyway.
01:54:55.359 --> 01:55:00.800
Uh, but in this book, uh Sleeper's like, you need to reach out to Venom, talk to the symbiote.
01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:02.640
And he's like, I need you.
01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:04.800
It's Eddie Brock, I need you, please come in.
01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:12.640
And the symbiote tendrils come down from the sky, forming almost like a very skinny black Spider-Man looking, like it's the symbiote without a host.
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:14.720
And it's like, how do we keep getting here?
01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:16.399
How do we keep getting to this moment?
01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:22.399
And Sleeper, for the first time in probably I don't know how long, stands up and is in his original sleeper form.
01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:22.880
Oh, really?
01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:26.479
Yes, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've waited so long to see this.
01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:29.760
Finally, it's been since like freaking forever.
01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:37.199
It was honestly, it was uh um Extreme Carnage was the last time we saw him as his as his original sleeper outfit.
01:55:37.359 --> 01:55:37.760
Yeah.
01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:43.840
Um and the symbiote says, you know, like I I just I don't know what to do.
01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:47.279
And sleeper goes, honestly, I want to be the king in black.
01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:51.600
And the symbiote's like, you know, honestly, I think you could handle it better than we could.
01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:58.000
We have other priorities and we have other things that we need to do, but I think you could be a better leader of the symbiotes than we could.
01:55:58.479 --> 01:56:00.479
And he's like, I'll do my best, thank you.
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:07.920
And the symbiote bonds back with Eddie, and then at the end it says, We will do our best to be the best hero we can be.
01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:08.960
We are Venom.
01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.199
And then that's the end of Venom Unchained.
01:56:12.079 --> 01:56:16.479
So, in conclusion, oh, I have one more thing.
01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:18.720
Okay, and this is something that you've been dying to hear, I'm sure.
01:56:19.039 --> 01:56:20.239
Yes, I have been wanting to hear.
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:25.600
Um, this morning I got up and immediately I was uh I'm in a Venom Discord server where we all chit-chat about Venom.
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:33.520
And and in this moment we were all talking, and um someone had told me like Al Ewing actually responded to the hate that this book has been getting.
01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.000
And it's not on Twitter, it's on some random thing called like uh blue blue sky?
01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:38.640
Blue sky.
01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:40.000
I've never heard of that before.
01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:43.920
Um, but he uh he says, I'm gonna read you everything in order.
01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:45.359
This is what his reaction is.
01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:48.479
And I'm I'm gonna kind of respond with my overall.
01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:50.159
I want to respond to Al Ewing.
01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:55.760
I want to respond to how what he's saying, and I also want to respond to the entire situation of this book.
01:56:56.000 --> 01:56:56.239
Okay.
01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:03.840
Looking at a very, very rough day on the personal life front with a lot of stress and hard emotions attached.
01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:11.119
I mentioned it because the uh invented reader fanfic version of me will probably be doing a lot of running around today.
01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:17.039
There's an odd thing that happens when you write comics, especially comics with the quote unquote big characters.
01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:22.640
Uh when where where you are somehow where you somehow become more fictional than the people you write.
01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:25.279
MJ and Venom are real and have feelings.
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.720
I have whatever motivation you assign me or editorial.
01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:30.079
It's not a lot of fun.
01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:35.039
Obviously, I'm doing myself no good talking about this phenomenon because it's just more fuel.
01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:35.840
But fuck it.
01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:37.840
It's going to be a grim day anyway.
01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:43.039
I'm going to be doing too much grieving to worry about what some YouTuber thinks.
01:57:43.199 --> 01:57:47.520
And obviously, uh and obviously big thanks to anyone wishing me well.
01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:48.720
I appreciate you.
01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:50.239
Yeah, it was bad.
01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:54.159
Guys, this was all caps, nothing to do with comics.
01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:59.359
I have an actual personal life, and I'm undergoing a period of real actual tragedy.
01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:05.600
I am a great personal I am in great personal emotional pain, and this is the rest of this is in all caps.
01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:09.119
I have a life outside of your stupid fucking Reddit hobby.
01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:13.840
And he says, I really am sorry I brought it up today, but you see what I mean now?
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:16.159
That's what Al you mean.
01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:18.000
That's that's his response to Venom.
01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:24.479
So this is kind of my adult, mature, realistic response.
01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:29.600
And I need Al to kind of if I if Al's listening, this is meant for you to hear me.
01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:31.119
And I know I've bitched a lot.
01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:32.479
I've been bitching about this book a lot.
01:58:32.640 --> 01:58:34.720
It's kind of been a little bit of a joke to a point.
01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:39.439
You know, I've kind of over-exaggerated a few moments, but this is my honest, raw opinions.
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:46.960
When you picked up this book, when Al picked up this book, he picked up a character that is near and dear to a lot of people.
01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:49.920
Venom is now what I would consider a legacy character.
01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:53.600
I would honestly say that Venom is up there with Spider-Man and Captain America and all that.
01:58:53.680 --> 01:59:01.119
He's the only Marvel villain to have a series going all the way up to 262, and it's still going on, right?
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:04.479
And the only one to have a um movie franchise.
01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:06.159
He has a movie franchise.
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:11.520
He has he's in every video game, almost every video game Marvel related, they have to put Venom in it.
01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:15.119
You know, he's a very popular character, okay?
01:59:15.600 --> 01:59:25.520
And Al, when you picked this up, you picked it up after Donnie Cates wrote it, and Donnie Cates put a lot of heart and imagination and creativity into this story, into his story.
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:28.479
And you picked it up and we're supposed to continue that story.
01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.279
And clearly you had, you know, Al had some stuff in mind.
01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:38.560
He had some, you know, very intense out like he had places he wanted to take it, and for some reason it didn't go there.
01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:45.359
Now I don't know if it's editorial, I don't know if it's arguing, I don't know who is directly to blame for the decisions being made in this book.
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:57.840
But when All New Venom was announced, and it was announced that Mary Jane is the new host of Venom, you took a character that was so super ingrained and buried, and you you you ripped it apart.
01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:01.520
You took a Transformer action figure and you took all the pieces off of it, is what you did.
02:00:01.600 --> 02:00:02.000
Yeah.
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:08.640
And instead of rebuilding it, you kind of just put the pieces wherever and then said you called it done when it was very much not done.
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:11.680
And the conclusion of this book proves that.
02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:14.319
Now, I don't know what's going on in Al Ewing's life.
02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:15.680
I don't know how this is affecting him.
02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:17.199
I don't know if he loved this book.
02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:18.640
I don't know if he hated this book.
02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:21.279
I don't I I cannot speak on Al's behalf.
02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:28.000
But what I can say from one writer to another, I write stuff, and I I I would kill to have the job that he has.
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.239
I would kill to be able to write this book.
02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:33.520
Um But you're he's writing a lot of things.
02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:35.760
Sorry, I'm keep I keep like talking to Al, but I'm trying to.
02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:38.079
But that's this is this is directed towards Al.
02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:39.279
This is directed towards Al.
02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:44.960
It's that you have been writing this book for the last five years.
02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:47.359
Almost you could maybe argue six years.
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You've been writing this book.
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And when you write a book, you should, you should know where your characters are at least going to end.
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You should know what's gonna happen to them.
02:00:57.039 --> 02:01:02.880
You should have a plan for everything you introduce, every piece of anything you introduce into a story.
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I don't know is not an answer for, hey, why'd you put this in the book?
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I don't know, it looks cool.
02:01:06.640 --> 02:01:07.760
That's not a good answer, right?
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You have to have reasons, you have to have, you know, like you, you just you have to flesh everything out.
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Al didn't.
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Everything he's introduced into this run has stripped another piece of venom away from his original character and added something new that does not fit it.
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I mean, I keep looking at the the amazing or the Venom 262 cover, and all I can think of is like, this is the Venom book?
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Like it's all it's the cover is uh all new venom and MJ Venom.
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They're like looking at each other, smiling, happy, and every all the people behind him are have Venom faces.
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And I'm assuming what he's talking about is that, you know, sure, the way you beat Null is that, you know, uh you're the god of nothing, but we're on Earth, we're all something, and we're all here to do something, and we're somethings and you're nothing, you know, and we're we're better.
02:01:55.520 --> 02:01:58.560
But ow, this is this is this is this is fictional.
02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:02.720
This is stories that we we read that we look up to, right?
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This is our entertainment.
02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:10.720
There's a lot of there's a lot of awful stuff going on in the real world, you know, no matter what you believe, what side you're on, whatever.
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This is our out.
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This is a lot of people's out.
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And we're all comic book nerds, we're all we're all outcasts.
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Yeah, you know, we're a community of outcasts.
02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:29.439
And to come to a book, especially this is why a lot of people are mad at you, is because you took something that meant a lot to a lot of people and you destroyed it.
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I mean, you did.
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You undid everything that everybody loved about this book, and you brought back f characters like Null and you washed him away into nothingness for no reason.
02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:44.880
You you literally took a book and you just completely destroyed it.
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And, you know, again, I don't know what he's dealing with.
02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:53.600
I don't know what's going on in his life, I don't know what kind of mental traumatic struggles he's dealing with.
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But dude, if you're going through stuff and you just can't fully give into the story, leave the book.
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Drop the book, don't complete it.
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If you're not if you aren't there, if your full mentality and your your your driven emotions, your passion, if your passion isn't into this book, don't just push it forward just to push it forward.
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Leave it.
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Because because when you push forward, you're asking to be criticized, you're asking to be ripped apart, you're asking for us fans to to criticize you because you're taking something we love and you're destroying it.
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Because to me, this is a this is an abomination to Venom.
02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:30.319
Right.
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This is an abomination to what this character is, and you completely like, and again, there's nothing wrong with introducing MJ as Venom or introducing this concept or that concept.
02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:45.199
But when you wrap it up with just like, oh yeah, the whole thing with her and the symbiote, just it's just fixed, it's that's it.
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It clearly shows that you had no plan.
02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:54.239
It clearly shows that you had no goal, you had no endpoint, and to us, that feels like you don't care.
02:03:54.560 --> 02:03:58.159
To me, when I see that, I my first thought is like, I don't feel like you care about this.
02:03:58.319 --> 02:04:01.279
You're writing all these other, you're writing Thor, you wrote The Immortal Hulk.
02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:04.000
Clearly, Al Ewing is a successful writer, right?
02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:05.920
He wouldn't have the job at Marl if he wasn't.
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And he wrote The Immortal Hulk, he's wrote The Immortal Thor, and he's writing Absolute Green Lantern, he wrote Null, he wrote Queen in Black, and he's wrote Venom.
02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:17.760
That's what that's like eight books that he's wrote all in one sitting in one time period.
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If it's too much, drop it.
02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:21.680
Let someone else take it for a minute.
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Even if it just has to be filler stories until we get to whatever, till we get to Charles Soule, that's fine.
02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:35.039
But don't kill yourself trying to get this book out when when you completed this, all this is is it is fuel for the fire.
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It is fuel for people getting mad at you because people are gonna be mad at you because what we see is we see you disrespecting our favorite character.
02:04:42.399 --> 02:04:42.960
Right.
02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:56.880
So I mean, I I don't know what he's going through, and I want to again, I'm just I'm just telling you from my point of view that you know like unfortunately, people are gonna be mad at you.
02:04:57.199 --> 02:04:58.000
I'm mad at you.
02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:08.960
Well, when you when you create something and you put it out there for the world, you are sure you're you're wanting to share what you're putting out there.
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And that's why you do it.
02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:12.479
You you don't make it just for yourself and hold on to it.
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If you did, then everybody would have their fan fictions and comics wouldn't exist.
02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:20.560
So you you you put it out there into the world.
02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:31.439
That means there there is a good thing that comes with that, but there is a there is it's a double-edged sword because there is inherently a negative that comes with that.
02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:38.000
For example, when I make the Instagram posts for our Instagram, I'm putting something out there that I want to talk about.
02:05:38.319 --> 02:05:43.039
Things I enjoy or things that I don't enjoy, and whatever it is, I want to talk about it.
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But in doing so, I know that I'll have some people who agree with me.
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I know some people will want to engage in the conversation, and I'll have some people who will call me a LARP or will tell me I'm stupid, or will ask why I hate people born in June.
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You know, don't even get me started on that, you jerk.
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You said I was this book.
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How dare you?
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I'm a man of my word.
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I told you, you send me one more out of it.
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We all have a choice, Clayton.
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We all um but but you know, that's a part of creating things.
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So if you are going through something personal in your life, and I'll I I wish you the best.
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I hope that you work through whatever you're going through or um you know, whatever you're experiencing.
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I I pray for you and I hope the best for you.
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But as a writer, as a creator, you you have to understand that what you're putting out there will be criticized.
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It may be enjoyed, but it will also be criticized.
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And if and if whatever you're going through right now, you can't handle the criticism as well.
02:06:46.880 --> 02:06:54.479
Um some of it, some stuff that you have offered, like you have today, and stuff you've offered in the past, has been constructive criticism.
02:06:54.640 --> 02:06:54.800
Right.
02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:57.359
Well, this doesn't connect to this, this needs to connect to this.
02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:58.960
That's cr constructive.
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You forgot this part of your story.
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There's you're missing your lord.
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That's constructive.
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And then, of course, you know, it's a joke that's yeah, we have our moments of just like I hate how you hang your sucks.
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Like, I can't believe he's, you know, like and that's different.
02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:13.199
You you know which to drown out and what's not to drown out.
02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:18.800
Um, but yeah, you if you had no vision, you have no passion, then then drop it.
02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:26.640
And not only will you not have to deal with that, but the fans who are spending their time and their money, they won't have to deal with it either.
02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:32.880
Yeah, because and that's that's a good point, is that like you know, Al, you write comics.
02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:36.000
You're writing comics, that's how you make it I don't I don't think that job pays well.
02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:38.239
You know, I don't think writing is a good paying job.
02:07:38.479 --> 02:07:43.600
But you know, I I've you know, I've used to work at TJ Maxx, I used to work at a tool shop, you know.
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I I've have I make I don't make as much money probably as you do.
02:07:47.760 --> 02:07:49.520
You know, Al definitely makes more money than I do.
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Right.
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And it's like I'm spending my money on your book, the thing that you are writing, the passionate story that you so wanted to tell, you're writing it, it's being printed, and it's coming to stores.
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I've bought multiple variants of these books.
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I've bought like I've I mean I've like I've just got to the point where I finally started stopping myself because I was like, I can't, I can't put more money into this.
02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:09.920
Right.
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It's it is just you you continued to make a craft that you weren't happy about.
02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:24.880
You didn't, I mean, I I I don't feel like you cared for it because if you did, you would have done your research, you would have done your homework.
02:08:25.039 --> 02:08:33.439
The the there's the there's I mean, I honestly I can't I don't even think I can count on my hands how many continuity errors you've made your in your entire time running Venom.
02:08:33.600 --> 02:08:41.119
You have you have made continuous continuity problems, and I think that to me, I I don't feel like you cared about the character.
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So because of that, because of of all these things, like I'm I'm giving you my hard-earned money just for you to write the worst ending of a comic I've ever read.
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And the worst run of a comic.
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I've never read it, I don't think I've ever read a comic would run this bad.
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And and again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just being I'm being 100% honest.
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Right.
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If if you are having problems with your life, if you have things going on that you can't control, there's no problem in stepping out.
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And there's no problem in owning it.
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I would have more respect for you, Al, if you, if you said, hey man, I just honestly I had to pull out because I couldn't, I couldn't write the book good.
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Like I just I I could not continue this story.
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I'd be like, you know what?
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I appreciate you you saying that, and I appreciate you stepping out because like man, I I it's it's been bad, you know, and I appreciate you you realizing that and trying to make a bit of difference.
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But you didn't.
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You stuck to your guns, you kept writing this story, and the story ended, and it is the worst ending I've ever read.
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And I hope that this is a lesson.
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I hope this this it gives you a lesson in life of, you know, hey, if you can't write that good story, there's nothing wrong with pulling out.
02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:52.159
But the amount of money that I've put into this book, just just trusting that maybe something could come out of it, right?
02:09:52.239 --> 02:09:53.520
Because that was the whole point I kept picking this up.
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So maybe it could get good, maybe this could happen.
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And then you you consistently proved me wrong.
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Yeah.
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And there are people out there that like it.
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And if you like this book, that's great.
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I'm so glad you do.
02:10:03.279 --> 02:10:10.640
But man, to uh to an OG Venom fan, to a bit like I I've probably spent like I can't even think of how much money I've put into Venom material.
02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:12.479
Uh I I don't even want to begin.
02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:13.840
I mean I I've seen your room.
02:10:14.000 --> 02:10:20.000
I mean I'm one of those guys that like when Christmas comes around, someone's like, I saw a Venom thing, but I didn't get it for you because you probably had it.
02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:20.800
And I'm like, what is it?
02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:21.439
Oh, it's this thing.
02:10:21.520 --> 02:10:22.159
Yeah, I've got it.
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Like, literally, that's that's just the kind of fan I am.
02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:29.039
Your room is essentially only black and white because of how much venom stuff is in there.
02:10:29.359 --> 02:10:29.600
Literally.
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I mean and your walls are painted like brown.
02:10:32.880 --> 02:10:40.399
Yeah, literally, but but Al, um unfortunately, I'm I'm glad this run is over.
02:10:40.560 --> 02:10:41.760
I'm very glad it's over.
02:10:41.920 --> 02:10:44.560
I'm I'm finally excited to read Venom again.
02:10:44.640 --> 02:10:46.720
Um, so are a lot of the Venom fans.
02:10:46.960 --> 02:10:50.319
But um, you know, I'm sorry for what you're going through.
02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:52.560
You know, I I will pray for you as well.
02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:59.840
But like unfortunately, you you might have some criticism here for a while, and you know, people are gonna look down on you.
02:11:00.000 --> 02:11:04.880
But, you know, like that thing with Spider-Man, you know, there's you have a chance to redeem yourself.
02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:12.880
Um, but man, if you just if you can't write a book, good, and you can't you cannot give all of your energy to a story, there's no shame in dropping out.
02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:13.920
There's there's none.
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There's none.
02:11:14.640 --> 02:11:20.239
Because you're you're saving us customers money, you're saving us our time and our energy that we're putting into it.
02:11:20.399 --> 02:11:21.840
You're saving you're saving it.
02:11:22.079 --> 02:11:23.199
All editorial people, yeah.
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Think about all the people who put hours into this book, make it the artist.
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Think about the artist drawing it.
02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:33.520
Because I don't think Carlos Scope, again, this is a complete speculation, but I don't think he even likes that he's writing the book.
02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:39.439
Based on his posts, it's just kind of honestly, you look at it and you think that, oh well, he seems like he don't like it either.
02:11:39.600 --> 02:11:40.159
Right.
02:11:40.720 --> 02:11:44.319
But the the we we are out of the cave, boys.
02:11:44.479 --> 02:11:49.119
Hopefully, with Charles Sol, uh Venom Unchained was my favorite book of this whole event.
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This was the only book of the event that I would consider.
02:11:51.760 --> 02:11:56.800
Like, if I could have skipped everything, Queen of Black, I would have just picked up Venom Unchained and got out all my info from there.
02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:57.119
Yeah.
02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.760
Um, so if you are considering reading it just for the sake of the story.
02:12:00.159 --> 02:12:02.479
Story and you don't want to read, don't don't pick up Queen in Black.
02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:04.479
It is it is a scam event.
02:12:04.640 --> 02:12:07.119
It has no consistent story within the book.
02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:09.039
If you want to pick up Venom, pick it up.
02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:12.960
But Venom Unchained is the is the best of it.
02:12:13.119 --> 02:12:14.800
Venom Unchained is on the pool list.
02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:18.720
Uh Venom is off the pool list, hopefully about to be back on.
02:12:18.880 --> 02:12:20.880
Queen in Black is never put that on the pool list.
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Don't ever, don't even think about it.
02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:23.199
That's a new category of the big thing.
02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:25.039
Yeah, don't even don't even put it on the pool list.
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Don't even question it.
02:12:26.079 --> 02:12:28.880
Like is this is shouldn't have it shouldn't have ever been on the pool list.
02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:32.000
So I got one one last thing to add to this conversation before we move on.
02:12:32.239 --> 02:12:37.920
And you kept saying that you you feel like Allying didn't care as as a reader.
02:12:38.720 --> 02:12:50.319
As a creator, the people in in in uh digesting your media, your whatever you created, they should never reach a point of saying, I feel like you never cared.
02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:53.359
Because if you don't care, why should I care?
02:12:53.600 --> 02:12:54.079
Exactly.
02:12:54.399 --> 02:12:57.840
Um, for your movie, for uh for fragments.
02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:00.800
That was a story that meant a lot to you.
02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:06.880
It's a story you did research on, stories that was very personal, but a story you were excited about too.
02:13:07.039 --> 02:13:07.359
Yeah.
02:13:07.600 --> 02:13:12.800
If you had gone in there, you didn't do any of your research, you didn't care It would have been it would be a completely different film.
02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:13.840
It'd it'd flop.
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It would be I I'd be like, I love you.
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Good luck.
02:13:17.439 --> 02:13:19.119
Yeah, yeah.
02:13:19.279 --> 02:13:19.920
Literally.
02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:26.960
But the fact that like I mean, again, and if he's again, if he says like I I do care about this, it's well you don't seem like that.
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It doesn't show.
02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:29.279
It needs to show.
02:13:29.840 --> 02:13:35.680
Um and you need to have, you know, in college they always told you, or at least for me, have a proofreader.
02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:36.000
Yeah.
02:13:36.239 --> 02:13:44.319
You need to have somebody who's not gonna be uh your yes man, you need somebody who's gonna be honest with you, yeah, and tell you, dude, this sucks.
02:13:44.479 --> 02:13:44.960
Yeah.
02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:55.119
And so uh I just that's all I just gotta say is as a creator, uh, your audience should never reach a point where they say, I feel like you didn't care.
02:13:55.279 --> 02:13:55.600
Yeah.
02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:59.279
And I've felt like that with Al for a very long time, unfortunately.
02:13:59.520 --> 02:14:01.439
So but that is it.
02:14:01.600 --> 02:14:05.520
That is that is the conclusion of Al Ewing's Venom.
02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:07.039
I'm so glad this is over.
02:14:07.199 --> 02:14:08.640
I'm so glad we can move forward.
02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:18.079
I'm very excited to see what Charles Sowell has in in store for us, which I guess our our next episode will probably be Clayface, but our episode after that will be the review of Absolute Batman 25.
02:14:18.159 --> 02:14:22.079
It'll be uh it'll be Charles Soul Venom and uh maybe what else?
02:14:22.159 --> 02:14:23.279
Whatever else comes out around the time.
02:14:23.520 --> 02:14:23.840
Transformers.
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But um, but that's it.
02:14:26.319 --> 02:14:27.680
That's it with Queen of Black.
02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:30.159
The sun is actually shining today, too.
02:14:30.640 --> 02:14:31.119
Dude, it is.
02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:32.159
Oh my gosh.
02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:33.119
It's so beautiful.
02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:41.199
For for those listening and who can't see, we're we're sitting in Paul's house and the sun is literally beaming in the house.
02:14:41.359 --> 02:14:42.960
It is kind of hilarious.
02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:49.920
Oh, I can't sing the words or Disney will copyright us.
02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:55.520
Um But that is not all for us.
02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:56.079
Wait.
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Do we want to do we do we we I guess we we've been forgetting our our pool list rankings?
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We have been.
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We've been.
02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:01.920
You know that I thought about that.
02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:06.560
I was in the car the other day and I was like, oh crap, I didn't give any rankings and anything.
02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:07.680
Oh, they're gonna cancel me.
02:15:08.159 --> 02:15:09.840
All of our fans are gonna leave.
02:15:10.079 --> 02:15:11.600
They're not gonna trust me no more.
02:15:12.079 --> 02:15:14.640
Okay, so Amazing Spider-Man 1000, how would you rank it?
02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:16.000
Uh definitely on the pool list.
02:15:16.079 --> 02:15:18.960
I'd say, no, honestly, I'll give it a beyond the pool list.
02:15:19.279 --> 02:15:25.279
Just because, just because I really like the covers of this book.
02:15:25.520 --> 02:15:26.159
Yes, you do.
02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:30.159
I re- I have I have consistently been like, oh man, I wish I could have this cover.
02:15:30.319 --> 02:15:32.000
Oh, I'd really like to have that cover for the book.
02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:38.319
And even we were talking about the Green Goblin one with uh Humberto Ramos, and I was like, well, now I kind of want that cover.
02:15:38.479 --> 02:15:39.600
Yeah, that's a cool cover.
02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:40.640
Um yeah.
02:15:40.960 --> 02:15:44.079
I I the Ramita cover, we've talked about the controversial.
02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:57.359
Um and I almost I was really thinking about buying that one, but I ended up buying the New York Comic-Con exclusive from Pepe La Raz with Peter Parker in the middle, and everybody's behind him with Spider-Man themed phones or ties or whatever.
02:15:57.520 --> 02:15:58.079
It's really neat.
02:15:58.159 --> 02:15:58.319
Yeah.
02:15:58.399 --> 02:16:00.079
Um, so I'm excited to get that in.
02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:00.479
Yeah.
02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:05.520
Um, I would say it's beyond the pool list for me, which is probably the first time I've said Amazing.
02:16:06.159 --> 02:16:06.880
Amazing a thousand?
02:16:07.039 --> 02:16:07.119
Yeah.
02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:07.359
Really?
02:16:07.600 --> 02:16:07.840
Wow.
02:16:07.920 --> 02:16:08.479
Okay, okay.
02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:12.399
And I would say that was just because there were some really good stories that really touched my heart.
02:16:12.640 --> 02:16:13.279
There were me too.
02:16:13.359 --> 02:16:13.520
Yeah.
02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:15.680
So I think that's why I'd say it's beyond.
02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:20.159
Now, will I pick up uh uh uh Amazing Spider-Man 1001?
02:16:20.319 --> 02:16:21.359
I don't know.
02:16:21.600 --> 02:16:23.439
I want to, but I also don't want to.
02:16:23.600 --> 02:16:28.720
I don't I don't want to I feel like this is like again, it's like, oh, there's a there's a Mountain Dew on this fish hook right here.
02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:29.039
Yeah.
02:16:29.199 --> 02:16:30.960
Let me just uh let me take a little bite.
02:16:31.359 --> 02:16:33.040
You know, and then I get yanked up.
02:16:37.040 --> 02:16:39.600
But okay, so we ranked our books.
02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:42.559
Uh and by the way, Geiger was beyond the pool list.
02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:44.079
Geiger was beyond the pool list?
02:16:44.159 --> 02:16:44.239
Yeah.
02:16:44.399 --> 02:16:45.280
Like it was insane today?
02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:47.440
Uh yeah, it was I wish you'd talk about him if you want.
02:16:47.600 --> 02:16:50.559
I'm not I'm not going to because I don't want to spoil it, but I'll I'll say this.
02:16:50.719 --> 02:16:50.959
Okay.
02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:56.639
It was so beyond the pool list that um I I did tear up.
02:16:56.879 --> 02:16:57.680
You teared up?
02:16:57.840 --> 02:16:58.479
I teared up.
02:16:58.639 --> 02:16:58.879
Whoa.
02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.879
I do think Geiger hits a little bit differently because I am a dad.
02:17:03.120 --> 02:17:03.680
Interesting.
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:04.000
Okay.
02:17:04.239 --> 02:17:06.479
Um so I think that's why it hits a little hard.
02:17:06.959 --> 02:17:10.079
Do we finally get to the to the fallout shelter?
02:17:10.319 --> 02:17:12.399
I'm I'm I'm not I'm not gonna tell you.
02:17:12.719 --> 02:17:12.879
Jerk.
02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:15.600
There's too many people listening who are planning on reading it.
02:17:15.760 --> 02:17:17.760
Or your birthday should be in June.
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:19.520
You know that.
02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:22.559
So, all right.
02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:24.559
We've got some Star Wars news recently.
02:17:24.719 --> 02:17:25.280
Yes.
02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.799
We have Star Wars news that is so exciting.
02:17:29.680 --> 02:17:30.639
I'm excited, dude.
02:17:30.719 --> 02:17:31.360
I'm thrilled.
02:17:31.520 --> 02:17:32.079
Yeah, I know.
02:17:32.239 --> 02:17:32.799
I'm so excited.
02:17:32.959 --> 02:17:33.360
Me too.
02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:33.600
Yeah.
02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:34.639
I'm I I can't wait.
02:17:34.799 --> 02:17:35.360
Yeah, it's real.
02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:36.319
I already have my tickets.
02:17:36.399 --> 02:17:37.520
Go ahead and tell me what the news is.
02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:40.639
Yeah, we're gonna get episodes 10, 11, and 12.
02:17:40.879 --> 02:17:43.440
Yes, yes, but wait, it gets better.
02:17:43.600 --> 02:17:43.760
Okay.
02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:45.520
John Watts is directing.
02:17:46.079 --> 02:17:46.319
Okay.
02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:47.600
Okay, it gets even better.
02:17:47.760 --> 02:17:48.319
Okay, okay, okay.
02:17:48.559 --> 02:17:49.840
Steven Kinsberg is riding.
02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:50.879
Do you know what else he did?
02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:53.200
He did the best movie ever, the four stick.
02:17:53.280 --> 02:17:53.440
Yeah.
02:17:53.520 --> 02:17:56.159
And he also did um um he did X-Men Dark Fanny.
02:17:56.319 --> 02:17:57.520
Oh, that's the best X-Men movie.
02:17:57.680 --> 02:18:00.079
Oh my gosh, we're saved! We're Star Wars is back.
02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:01.520
We're back.
02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:02.639
It's not back.
02:18:02.799 --> 02:18:06.559
It's uh we're we're we're liars here.
02:18:07.200 --> 02:18:09.280
Welcome to the lying episode of Beyond the Foods.
02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:10.879
We're pretend like we like things that we don't.
02:18:11.040 --> 02:18:11.200
Yeah.
02:18:11.280 --> 02:18:12.639
Um, yes, you told me about this.
02:18:12.719 --> 02:18:18.319
Actually, I think I I think this was another one of those posts where I sent it to you and you were like, you should check your messages, loser.
02:18:19.040 --> 02:18:19.360
And I did.
02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:20.000
It was.
02:18:20.239 --> 02:18:22.879
Um, so what do you think about this news?
02:18:23.280 --> 02:18:26.639
Um I know what you think.
02:18:26.959 --> 02:18:28.799
Um but here's what here's what I think.
02:18:29.440 --> 02:18:32.879
Um why, Disney?
02:18:33.040 --> 02:18:33.520
Why?
02:18:34.319 --> 02:18:38.319
Um Clayton, look on the you see that cow right there?
02:18:38.479 --> 02:18:38.719
Yeah.
02:18:38.879 --> 02:18:40.319
I mean it's it's almost dead.
02:18:40.479 --> 02:18:40.959
It's yeah.
02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:43.200
But I think we can get a little bit more milk out of it.
02:18:43.360 --> 02:18:44.719
Yeah, we get we get it.
02:18:44.879 --> 02:18:48.559
You know, it like I shoved a little bit of like mud in his mouth.
02:18:48.719 --> 02:18:49.680
Hopefully he ate it.
02:18:49.840 --> 02:18:52.639
Yeah, but I think we can get a little bit of milk out of it.
02:18:52.799 --> 02:18:55.680
That's no animals were harmed in the beginning of this podcast.
02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:57.840
That's exactly what this is.
02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:04.399
Um, because unfortunately, Disney, you you you reel me in and then you push me right back out.
02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:13.760
Um and it's it's honestly so frustrating with you because you create something so magnificent.
02:19:14.000 --> 02:19:20.079
You create mall, probably one of the best Star Wars contents I've seen in years.
02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:22.159
Maul is incredible.
02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:24.319
How can you create mall?
02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:29.520
And then at the same time say, This is how we're gonna continue our Star Wars.
02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:35.520
Uh, we're gonna have the guy who write wrote Fan For Stick and uh X-Men Dark Phoenix.
02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:41.200
Now, to this guy's credit, to Simon Kinsberg's credit, he did write some episodes of Star Wars Rebels.
02:19:41.520 --> 02:19:43.280
So those did have good episodes.
02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:46.799
He wrote X-Men First Class, which was a decent movie.
02:19:47.280 --> 02:19:54.000
He wrote um Days of Future Past, which um wait, first X-Men First Class and Days of Future Past.
02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:56.079
I don't mind Days of Future Past.
02:19:56.159 --> 02:19:57.440
Is it fantastic?
02:19:57.760 --> 02:19:59.600
No, but it's not bad.
02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:05.840
Um and he also wrote um X-Men Apocalypse, again, not a not necessarily bad, but not the greatest.
02:20:06.479 --> 02:20:09.280
So you're not exactly filling me with confidence here.
02:20:10.159 --> 02:20:15.440
The story is also supposed to be set 15 years after the rise of Skywalker.
02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:20.319
It is supposed to be Ray Skywalker's story as she rebuilds the Jedi Order.
02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:27.680
Now, here's where I'll give Disney credit for is at least this time they will have a cohesive story for all three movies.
02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:31.280
At least they have a vision this time.
02:20:31.680 --> 02:20:45.120
It's not gonna be like seven, eight, and nine where you did one movie, okay, we're going this direction, and then your middle movie goes somewhere else, and then episode nine is just whatever, trying to make fix the mistakes of episode eight.
02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:45.440
Yeah.
02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:49.600
So at least this time we're gonna have a story that flows across three movies.
02:20:49.760 --> 02:20:50.000
Yeah.
02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:51.920
So I'll give them credit for that.
02:20:52.559 --> 02:21:04.799
Uh however, why are we focusing on what is arguably your most controversial timeline and why not continue to tell stories in the Clone Wars?
02:21:05.040 --> 02:21:06.719
Which people have been asking for for years.
02:21:06.879 --> 02:21:08.239
More Clone War stories.
02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:12.159
It doesn't have to be called Clone Wars or Bad Batch, it can be called something else.
02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:12.399
Yeah.
02:21:12.799 --> 02:21:16.079
Look at the time there's so many stories we could tell.
02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:20.879
Why are we focusing on your sequel trilogy and for nothing else?
02:21:21.040 --> 02:21:25.120
Now, will there be people in the future who say, I grew up with the sequels and I like them?
02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:28.559
Yeah, there will be because that's the same way it was with the prequels.
02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:32.319
But do we really need to explore that story so soon?
02:21:32.479 --> 02:21:32.639
Yeah.
02:21:32.879 --> 02:21:38.799
You're only doing that because your characters at Disney World and Disneyland are the resistance in the first order.
02:21:39.040 --> 02:21:39.760
Literally, yeah.
02:21:39.920 --> 02:21:41.840
Um, and you've got to make that money.
02:21:42.000 --> 02:21:42.399
Right.
02:21:42.719 --> 02:21:44.799
So I don't know.
02:21:44.959 --> 02:21:47.120
Um I don't have much hope.
02:21:47.520 --> 02:21:50.959
Um Rebellions are built on hope.
02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:52.079
Not this one.
02:21:52.319 --> 02:21:53.600
Yeah, not this one.
02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:57.600
Um I I wish Star Wars could make a comeback.
02:21:57.760 --> 02:22:01.200
You had me so excited with Maul, and now you've lost me.
02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:01.600
Yeah.
02:22:02.079 --> 02:22:05.040
And could you bring me back by Maul season two?
02:22:05.280 --> 02:22:05.680
Maybe.
02:22:06.639 --> 02:22:08.159
But I don't have much hope.
02:22:08.319 --> 02:22:08.959
Yeah.
02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:16.959
My opinions, uh, you know, uh Andrew, uh one of our lovely friends, uh, he we were talking to him about it, and he's he's our big Star Wars guy.
02:22:17.200 --> 02:22:18.159
He loves Star Wars.
02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:25.840
Actually, uh Clayton and Andrew both want me to watch uh Maul, and I just I haven't because I just I I can't I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of done with Star Wars.
02:22:25.920 --> 02:22:26.239
Yeah, I know.
02:22:26.399 --> 02:22:31.440
Like honestly, and and I hate that because I used to like when The Mandalorian came out, I was all about the Mandalorian.
02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:35.920
I love the original trilogy, I love the Clone Wars, I love the the new Clone Wars that came out.
02:22:36.079 --> 02:22:37.360
Like I loved all of it.
02:22:37.600 --> 02:22:47.440
And you know, with the the Sky actually with the Skywalker trilogy, the three were the I guess the raid trilogy, um I'm we went and seen it together and you liked it, and I hate it.
02:22:47.520 --> 02:22:48.879
Yeah, I was like, that was awful.
02:22:49.040 --> 02:22:50.399
And looking back, it's really not that good.
02:22:50.639 --> 02:22:52.239
It's not, but but you know, I mean you were excited.
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:53.120
You were you were excited.
02:22:53.200 --> 02:22:53.600
I get it.
02:22:53.680 --> 02:22:57.840
I'm I've hey I've I've I did the same thing with Venom Let There Be Carnage and Venom the Last Dance.
02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:01.200
I remember when I left Last Dance, I was like, that was amazing, it was so good.
02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:02.079
Venom Horse.
02:23:02.159 --> 02:23:05.760
And then you know, now I'm just like, Paul, be real.
02:23:06.000 --> 02:23:12.719
Um but with with with Star Wars, you know, my suggestion would be just just take a break.
02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:14.959
Maybe maybe take take a few years.
02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:16.479
I would even argue a decade.
02:23:16.799 --> 02:23:19.040
Take a decade of no Star Wars, nothing.
02:23:19.280 --> 02:23:20.239
Just let it rest.
02:23:20.479 --> 02:23:22.239
Let it let people just be done with it.
02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:30.559
And then be like, hey, you know, we've we've really sat back, we've we've revamped our stuff, we're gonna come back with this story.
02:23:31.040 --> 02:23:32.319
And then tell your new story.
02:23:32.559 --> 02:23:35.680
But do not like Disney, like quit continue.
02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:39.440
Like, why wh I I wish companies would quit doubling down on the things people don't like.
02:23:39.600 --> 02:23:39.760
Right.
02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:41.840
Because it's like, well, you have to like this, it's so good.
02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:43.200
No, people don't like it.
02:23:43.440 --> 02:23:45.200
They don't want it, they don't want more Ray.
02:23:45.520 --> 02:23:49.520
Not that Ray's a bad character, well, she's a bad built character, she's a bad built character.
02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:50.799
She could be a great character.
02:23:50.959 --> 02:23:52.479
She could be, but she is not built correctly.
02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:52.799
Yes.
02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:55.520
You know, or like, I mean, even maybe without you and Venom.
02:23:55.600 --> 02:23:58.000
Like the whole point is like, hey, please stop, and they just keep going.
02:23:58.079 --> 02:23:58.239
Right.
02:23:58.479 --> 02:24:06.399
You know, the whole point of this is that take a break, regroup your surroundings, get your footing, and then stand up again.
02:24:06.559 --> 02:24:06.719
Right.
02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:10.879
You know, you can't just quit trying to stand up when you're already falling, because you're just gonna keep falling.
02:24:11.040 --> 02:24:12.479
Like, literally, that's what you're gonna keep doing.
02:24:12.559 --> 02:24:12.879
Right.
02:24:13.040 --> 02:24:16.719
So, um and even Andrew said, I'm not ready for another trilogy yet.
02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:18.399
I don't think star that's what Star Wars needs.
02:24:18.559 --> 02:24:18.719
Yeah.
02:24:18.879 --> 02:24:21.040
And I never I never went and saw Mandalorian in Grogu.
02:24:21.200 --> 02:24:21.600
I didn't either.
02:24:21.760 --> 02:24:23.040
When it came out, I just didn't care.
02:24:23.280 --> 02:24:24.239
Like, and Andrew saw it.
02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:24.959
He said it was good.
02:24:25.040 --> 02:24:27.680
He said it was literally like a season four of Mandalorian.
02:24:28.000 --> 02:24:30.239
And I'm just like, I just don't care.
02:24:30.399 --> 02:24:36.559
Like, I mean, you know, there was other the backrooms was out at the same time, obsession was out, so I was like all about those because it was like, oh, these are actually good.
02:24:36.719 --> 02:24:36.799
Right.
02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:42.559
Um, you know, but honestly, Star Wars I I probably won't go see it to be honest with you.
02:24:42.639 --> 02:24:46.239
I might, it depends if the trailer really gets me, sure, but I don't think it will.
02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:50.319
So I think I think this is the death of Star Wars in in in my soul.
02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:54.079
See, and I hate to say that, but that's the that's just how I feel.
02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:58.639
We made a post on it, and um, yeah, a lot of a lot of people feel the same way.
02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:00.159
So you're not the only one.
02:25:00.319 --> 02:25:00.479
No.
02:25:00.959 --> 02:25:06.000
Um, another thing in news uh that we found out today is that Secret Wars has also been delayed.
02:25:06.159 --> 02:25:08.879
Um that Secret Wars supposed was supposed to start filming.
02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:10.959
I don't know if you had if you have anything about Star Wars.
02:25:11.200 --> 02:25:18.799
No, that's that's I didn't know if you had anything else about Star Wars, but Secret Wars uh was supposed to start filming, I think, like this month, which is scary because uh Doomsday's not even out yet.
02:25:18.959 --> 02:25:19.040
Yeah.
02:25:19.280 --> 02:25:21.040
And um they had to push filming.
02:25:21.200 --> 02:25:22.959
So they delayed it a second time.
02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:26.159
This is the second delay, second or third delay that it's received.
02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:29.920
Um I don't know when it's been delayed to, but uh yeah.
02:25:30.079 --> 02:25:31.920
Maybe they're reconsidering Venom, hopefully.
02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:33.040
Yeah, yeah.
02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:36.000
Well, see, here's the reason why it's delayed, Paul.
02:25:36.239 --> 02:25:43.520
Is um they're going to let the uh the actors write the script as they're filming, which is exactly what they did for Doomsday.
02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:44.319
That's what I would do.
02:25:44.479 --> 02:25:45.920
Yeah, it makes the most logical.
02:25:46.719 --> 02:25:47.600
I let my actors write frag.
02:25:47.760 --> 02:25:48.479
I didn't even write fragment.
02:25:48.639 --> 02:25:49.040
My actors did.
02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:49.200
Right.
02:25:49.520 --> 02:25:49.920
Just kidding.
02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:51.360
I did I'm not keeping that credit.
02:25:51.520 --> 02:25:52.879
I worked really hard on this.
02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:54.399
Never mind.
02:25:55.120 --> 02:26:03.040
Um, yeah, so I have a feeling that they I think they'll also wait until the reaction of Doomsday, and they'll they'll write it on the spot just like they did.
02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:03.440
Yeah.
02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:13.120
Um, we also have some other Marvel news that isn't necessarily promising, and that is um Spider Noir got canceled, which we've already talked about.
02:26:13.200 --> 02:26:13.360
Yep.
02:26:13.600 --> 02:26:18.000
And so in its place, Amazon or Marvel or Sony or whoever's funding it this way.
02:26:18.239 --> 02:26:21.200
I think it's Sony because they still they own all the Spideyer people.
02:26:21.440 --> 02:26:21.680
Yeah.
02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:22.000
Yeah.
02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:30.079
Um, we are now getting a clone saga series based on Ben Riley and Ben Kane?
02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:31.040
Kane Parker?
02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:32.319
Kane, yeah, whatever his name is.
02:26:32.479 --> 02:26:33.680
Yes, uh Ben Riley and Kane Parker.
02:26:33.920 --> 02:26:34.319
Is it Kane?
02:26:34.399 --> 02:26:35.520
Is it Kane Parker?
02:26:35.760 --> 02:26:36.159
I don't know.
02:26:36.399 --> 02:26:36.719
It's Kane.
02:26:36.879 --> 02:26:37.600
I know for sure it's Kane.
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It's these characters that nobody cares about.
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Um and it's I like Ben Riley.
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And I don't mind Kane.
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He's got the cool spikes that come out of his hands.
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He's pretty he's pretty cool.
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Yeah, but like do we really need a series on them?
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Not really, no.
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Um I'd rather have a 2099 series or something.
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Yeah, that would be cool.
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Um, but it's gonna be based off of um it's gonna be very similar to lanterns because Marvel has looked at the success of lanterns and has wanted to copy a buddy cop drama similar.
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Well, hopefully they can actually get the funding and the budgeting because my hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Lanterns is good.
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No, I was not I'm not talking about Marvel.
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Don't put the gun at me.
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Put your gun down.
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Um no, I'm saying I'm saying Marvel because I think Spider Noir looked horrible.
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Lanterns looks good.
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What I've seen of it, it looks really good.
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Um Marvel, the the Spider-Verse, the the Spider, the Spider-Man Noir costume looked okay, but I think the the cityscapes looked bad.
02:27:40.799 --> 02:27:46.239
It just it looked very like it wasn't what I wanted because again I like the comics and I like the more serious tone.
02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:51.600
This was more this was more like a hey buddy, you you know, you you you want comp.
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You know, like that I think I think if they can really build their budget up.
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I mean like Fallout.
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We were I think we were talking recently, and I was like, you said Fallout was like I was like, yeah, Fallout's got a really great budget.
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Like they got they got a lot of money.
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I think if this universe did the same, they would have a lot better stuff to work with because it just looks very fan filmy.
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Yeah.
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And I hate it when my Marvel stuff looks like a fan film.
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Shoot, Spider-Man Lotus looked better than Spider-Man Noir.
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I'll be honest, and I know people hate me for my opinion on that, but Spider no Spider-Man Lotus looked way better than Spider-Man Spider-Noir.
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Dang.
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To an extent, there's some of the swing scenes, but again, that's a low budget private project.
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Yeah, fan film.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So but wow, what a what an episode, Clayton.
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Yeah.
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Um man.
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A thousand, the end of Al Ewing, Star Wars.
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You could almost you'd almost say it's a it's a brand new day.
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If some bad come on, come on.
02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:51.840
Uh well, thank you everybody so much for listening.
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Unless you have anything else to add.
02:28:53.920 --> 02:28:54.879
Thank you so much for listening.
02:28:54.959 --> 02:28:59.680
Uh again, we will be our I think our next episode is gonna be Clayface, our review on Clayface.
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I don't know if we'll get that out.
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It'll probably be pretty close to the release.
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So if uh go see it before you listen to us, we'll reiterate that.
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It'll be it will be a spoiler episode.
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We've already planned it.
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And then after that will be our review of Absolute Batman 25, Venom Number One, and uh Transformers Transformers and uh maybe Geiger.
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I don't know what else comes out by that time.
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No, Geiger Geiger doesn't come out till January.
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I don't think so.
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But but um thank you guys so much for listening.
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I'm one of your hosts, Paul.
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I'm Clayton, and uh we'll see you next time.
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Bye guys.