How Do You Know When Change is Calling? with Kelly Brown

In a funny way, knowing when it's time to make a decision can be tricky. For Tony Brown, he starts to feel irritated and adds notes to a folder calls "things that bug me." Those notes usually lead to decisions. Today, Tony talks with executive and career coach Kelly Brown. She knows a decision is looming when she feels angst and frustration. Then she'll ask herself a question: "If I'm doing exactly the same thing in five years, how will I feel?" It's a question that has "unlocked so much awareness for me in so many ways," Kelly says. She also asks this: "What is at the heart of the conflict and what is it that I really want? What am I really looking for?" (And don't forget, a non-decision is a decision too!)

At the Table with Tony is a series of conversations with Tony Brown, professor emeritus at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University. Tony started the podcast while facing significant health challenges in order to nurture a generative, "grow together" friendship community with his many friends and former students. In Season 2, Tony is joined at the table by Duke senior Riley Reece.