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Welcome to Accidental Education Reality Lab. I am Tom Cunningham,
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your professor, and this week is like the rest. It's
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really been on steroids for those of you who don't
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know me, and this is the first time that you're
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clicking onto one of my videos.
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My name is Tom Cunningham.
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I've been working in the world of reality television since
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nineteen ninety six. I've worked on a lot of shows,
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ranging from The Cops TV show, to The Apprentice, to
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The Amazing Race, Undercover Boss, and quite a few projects
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involving Afghanistan and different countries in Africa, especially third world countries,
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and I've done a lot in Asia as well.
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Primarily India.
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That seemed to be the country that I would get
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the most calls for to do projects in India. So
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the baseline for my podcast as well as my sub
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stack is accidental education. Of course is the fact that
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I don't have a traditional college degree. I have an
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associated arts degree and a lot of what I've learned
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in the course of my life is on accident, and
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in the main, happy accident that caused my education was
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my career. And so this podcast as well as my
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sub stack, highlights the different lessons in.
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Lessons, in.
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Exposures to different environments that helped me look through different
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kind of news stories and political agendas.
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That are out there. So this week there's a couple
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of things I want to talk about.
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One, the new Michael bay movie that's coming out, about
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the movie Epic Fury and the two fighter pilots that
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went down and Iran that I've got a lot of
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questions about that. And also i to discuss the I
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guess heartbreaking and shocking death of Kyle Busch yesterday.
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That was just it was insane.
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I've never really, you know, other than Kobe Bryant, I
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can't remember just going holy smokes.
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I can't just I can't believe that just happened.
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And then finally, I want to talk about a filmmaker
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I've talked about in past episodes, William Friedkin, and a
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few episodes back, I talked about his film To Live
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and Die in la And since then I've done a
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little bit more research into William Friedkin and I've watched
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a few more of his movies. In the latest movie
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that I watched of his was called Sorcerer, and it
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has nothing to do with any kind of like abercadabra
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type stuff. It has to do with driving trucks through
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a jungle. All right, So without further ado, what do
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you say.
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We go ahead and play the intro.
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Spending the globe from the four corners of the world,
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traveling the while entertaining millions in secrecy. These are lessons
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learned through not so average experiences from a life.
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Spent creative reality. Television is accidental.
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The case.
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With your gun, Doctor Tom Cunning esquire a turds.
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All right, so let's get started. And when I saw
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the story come.
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Across social media, I was thinking to myself, and what
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I'm talking about is Michael bay teaming up with I
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think Mitchell Mitchell Zukoff.
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Mitchell Zukoff is a journalist I think at the New
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York Times who has written a lot of books.
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He did Thirteen Hours, The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.
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He's done. He's done a few more, but that one,
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the Benghazi.
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Book, the Thirteen Hours, is the one that he teamed
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up with Michael Bay on to do the film, which
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I think is a great film and kind of memorialized
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what happened at the attack on.
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The not embassy. But what do they call it the
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I don't know wherever, you know, in Benghazi. The christ
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evens the ambassador to Libya was staying the annex with
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the annex. Yeah, I think it's called the annex. AnyWho.
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So the book, which is really weird because this this
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incident happened back in April, and then all of a sudden.
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We get the announcement that they're making a movie about
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this incident.
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And the incident that I'm referring to are the two
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fighter pilots that got shot down in Iran and the
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rescue mission that ensued to extricate them from Iran for
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the bad guy of the IRGC got ahold of them.
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this is a pretty compelling story.
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I'm sure there's a lot of.
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decisions that were being made that you know, we're we're
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done under pressure and duress and making sure that they
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were done in a timely fashion. But what struck me
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is a lot of times when it comes to films,
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especially about the military, the turnaround process.
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an announcement of well this just happened. You know, let's say,
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let's take Venezuela. You know, a month later, we didn't hear. Oh,
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guess what.
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Peter berg Ising is teamed up with you know, Mitchell Zukoff,
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and they're going to do a story.
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About how they got Maduro out of Venezuela.
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know what Delta did to the the Cuban bodyguards of Maduro,
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but they all came back in shoe boxes, so I'd
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be kind of interested interested to see the technology that
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they had for that.
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But let me just go ahead and read to you
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the article that I came across and all about this
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new film project happening.
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All right, Director Michael Bay and author Mitchell Zukoff are
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teaming up with Universal Pictures for a new film.
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Titled Operation Epic Fury.
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Okay, so the title of this film is called Operation
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Epic at least that's the working title right now.
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It's very bizarre that they would you would title a.
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Film by the the war that's going on or the
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military operation that's happening, because Epic Fury is the umbrella
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for what's going on with.
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The war with the Ran. So usually within a war
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you're going to have little subsets of battles or missions
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that are all going to take on their own name.
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So to have this umbrella title for this film seems
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really strange to me, you know, right off the bat,
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you know, like I think, what was it.
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Triton Spear or Poseidon Spear or something like that was
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the mission to go get Osama bin Laden with the
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Seal team.
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So right off the bat that this to me just
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sounds like, you know, a big piece of propaganda when
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you're using the title Operation Epic Fury. All right, let's
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go on.
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It chronicles the recent real life US military rescue of
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two down F fifteen pilots in Iran. The script will
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be adapted from Zukov's upcoming book. All right, the book
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hasn't even been written by Mitchell Zukoff. And so now
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all of a sudden, you're telling me that based on
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this book, And okay, you know, Mitchell Zukov has a
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tremendous track record when it comes to books that he's
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published and also.
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Films, like I mentioned Thirteen Hours. He also did a book,
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a World War two book not in the Philippines, like
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in New Guinea, I think was the stage for that.
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out information from these different historical events.
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That have happened.
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But again, it's really weird to me that the book
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hasn't come out and they're already announcing the movie that's
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based on this book that hasn't been written yet. Usually
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a book comes out and depending on the sales of
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the book, Hollywood studios are like, hey, you know what,
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this would make a really good movie.
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Let's go ahead to buy the rights to it and
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get it on the silver screen. So everything is going
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a little bit out of order.
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go in production based on a book that hasn't been
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written yet.
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go up. And when I say red flags, I don't
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mean anything nefarious. I'm just saying that this is so
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obvious to me a propaganda tool that's being used, because
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you're just going totally out of order of the way
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that studios and the government have worked for the last
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you know, one hundred and fifty years since.
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We started making movies.
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All right, here we go, as we go on the
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film will Reteam Bay and producer Scott Garden Now and
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Irwin Staff, marketing their second marketing their second collaboration with Zukoff,
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following their twenty sixteen military movie Thirteen Hours of Secret.
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Soldiers of Big Gazi. The film based on the the
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spring twenty twenty six.
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US rescue mission of in Iran's Zagros Mountains following the
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down f fifteen.
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E Strike Eagle. See why would you name like this
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film Strike Eagle, you know, just a thought or whatever.
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Why wouldn't you name it the mission that it was?
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Because I guarantee you whatever the fighter pilots were doing
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when they got shot down, they were on a specific mission.
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So that again, why would you name it epic fury?
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Let's see Strike Eagle?
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The operation involved a thirty six hour effort with hundreds
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of Special Forces commandos, dozens of US aircraft, and the
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CIA deception operation. All right, let's just take a look
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at that. So what was the CIA deception operation? Was
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it exploding you know, the C one thirties and the
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helicopters on the makeshift runway in the desert. Was that
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part of it, I don't know what'll we find out,
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or was that something totally different where this F fifteen
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Strike Eagle was covering was giving air support to those
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ground units that were engaged in another operation. To me,
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there's a lot of questions that need to be answered
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as far as the narrative goes.
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shot down and to the pilot and the backseat guy
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go off.
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is rescued immediately, and then all of a sudden, you've got,
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you know, reports of other down to aircraft in the area.
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few hours later, and you know, you've got to see
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one thirties helicopters and I think like a Sea Stallion
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or something like that helicopter.
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what they were doing on this makeshift runway, other than
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they were part of the evacuation plan, which doesn't really
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make sense to me.
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go extricate the pilots, then you would have to set
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something up.
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something that we're going to find out about in Zukoff's
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book or in the film.
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the military, the Department of Defense wants, they're going to
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put it out.
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Their way through their pre approved book, in their pre
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approved movie.
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So again, this seems like narration formation right now in
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reconstructing what the truth is.
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The film is based on Mitchell Zukoff's forthcoming book about
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the mission, slated for publication by Harper Collins in twenty
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twenty seven.
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twenty seven, and you already have a film deal for it.
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Zukov is getting up front money to write the book.
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to have a film adaptation made from the book that
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he's got a pretty good payday going. So all right,
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we have the basic premise of what's happening here, and
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we've heard Trump say it a million times.
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you know the rebeaming back video of the operation happening.
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military forces, with the Green Beray a team with marines, you.
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ers some of the other you know, tier one operators,
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but I know what goes into you know, a rescue mission,
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but not really you know what.
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I have a general idea of how you know, militaries
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go about moving around quick reactionary forces, and I also
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the military and all the hoops that you have to
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jump through. And granted, when the president says I want
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to get something done, and being the commander in chief,
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all those hoops go away.
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in this book.
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lot of pride in retrieving those pilots, which he should,
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and you know, the great men that made it happen
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were on the ground women maybe, I don't know.
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We'll see how the movie goes. I'm sure that there'll
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be some female characters in there and show the public
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what went But still that kind.
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Of obscures the whole reason for the United States attacking Iran.
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So then another reason, you know why I think this
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is being fast tracked too.
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China has nothing to do with it. And China is
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one of the main financiers in Hollywood.
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So China's like, all right, we can make money off this,
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and as long as we're doing a propaganda.
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Film where we have nothing to do with what's going on.
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I guess popularity is the wrong word, but most Americans
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have no idea why we're.
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Fighting Iran, and most Americans don't like it. You know,
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you've got some of your hardcore, you know, maggot type
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people who are like, no matter what Trump says.
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They're like, oh, we're in whatever you did, fuck Iran,
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let's get them.
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Kill them all. And then you have other people like
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myself who consider myself more center.
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understand the old left, not the new left.
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The New Left is more.
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Communist, and I don't understand what the Democrat Party is about.
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And I'm starting to not understand what's going on with
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the Republican Party just as much as the Democrat Party.
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Because there's a lot happening that just seems like.
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What trumps supporters were being warned about by the Left
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that they thought Trump would turn into. It feels at
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times that he's actually turning into what they feared.
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I personally don't think so. I think would I like
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him to would I like Trump to handle things a
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bit differently? Yes? Did I think? Did I think it
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was a horrible misstep with the release of.
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The Epstein files and the try and gaslight everybody that
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Epstein was old news.
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And it was a hoax and it was a conspiracy.
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I didn't like that at all, because that just leads everyone.
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To think that you're protecting somebody or something or a
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group of people, which rightly or wrongly was identified by
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Uranium Propaganda as being the.
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Epstein class, and that Moniker is stuck. And I think
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for a lot of people like myself, that that's the
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perfect that's the perfect name for the group of elites
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that we think run the real run the world is
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the Epstein class. So back to this film. Michael Bay
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of course is a great filmmaker, lots of action, lots
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of you know, a large explosions. I'm sure the film
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is going to you know, do really well. But what
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I'm curious about, you know, other.
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Than the fact of how this whole deal came together,
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is how quickly we're going.
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To see a release and.
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With what I know about how films are made in
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the actual physical production of them, you know, from the
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pre production to the location production, whether it's you know,
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you're out on location, which obviously you're going to have
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to be with this, with the sets that need to
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be built, and then post production and then the delivery,
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then the launch of the film. You know, usually it
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takes about a year for that to happen. But with
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all the AI tools, they're now readily available for filmmaking.
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I'll be interested to see how quickly of a turnaround
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this will be. And my thought is the quicker the
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turnaround for this film, the longer.
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That we're going to be in Iran.
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And this is going to be used a lot as
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as like Blackhawk Blackhawk Down was used right after nine
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to eleven.
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I know, it's a totally different incident, but following my train.
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Of thought here, Blackhawk Down was in the process of
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being made in September. I think it probably the principal
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photography had been done and post production.
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Work started on Blackhawk Down right around September eleventh.
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So what the studios did is, at the time of
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nine to eleven, there were barely any war films out
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there that you know, weren't Vietnam related, and Operation Restore
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Hope with the Blackhawks going down in Somalia was a
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very compelling story that you know, Mark Bowden had written
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the book.
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And then it had been developed into a movie and
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Ridley Scott was directing. I believe it Ridley Scott or
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was it Tony Scott. It was one of the Scott brothers.
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So anyways, that movie.
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After nine to eleven, that movie, the studio heads, I
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don't know where they were feeling pressure from, whether it
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came from the government or they decided to capitalize on
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nine to eleven and say, oh, this is what we have.
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We have this ambush that took place during Operation Restore Hope,
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where we're trying to get Mohammad fair Idd.
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Two Blackhawks go down. One of the most vicious.
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Firefights in US military history took place in nineteen ninety
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three that nobody knows.
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About, so you know, let's make a film about it.
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So were the studio heads reading the tea leaves with
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how everybody was feeling in the United States, and instead
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of trying to, you know, resurrect Vietnam war movies, we
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had moved into, you know, getting out of the jungles
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of Vietnam and getting into.
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An arid deserty area that involved Muslims and Somalia involved Muslims.
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I think it was a combination of the two. I
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don't think the government played a hand in it.
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I don't think w I don't think Donald Rumsfeld got
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on the phone with one of the Scots and was.
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Like, Hey, you know what, let's get to crank this
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baby out. I don't think it happened that way. But
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I do think that networking.
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Executives were like, holy smokes, we don't have any programming.
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We're going to war right now. We don't have any
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war films, and so this was the one war film that.
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They had, so at that point.
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They expedited the process of getting it done, and that's
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why Black Hawk Down came on the heels.
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Of September eleventh. It was a little bit of.
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Timing, but the process to push it out was accelerated
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by the events of nine to eleven. Is that what
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we're looking at now with this film Operation Epic Fury.
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If the timetable is compressed, and what I.
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Mean by that is if they start filming by the
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end of the summer early fall, and then we see
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a release date for.
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Summertime of twenty twenty seven, then I think that we're
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going to be in for the long haul with Iran.
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And I think that we're going to see more war
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films about Afghanistan and in Iraq that don't really choose.
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Sides, well they do. You know, the US is always
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going to be you know.
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Heroic in the films that are going to be green lid,
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and you're not going to see films where it takes in.
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The soldiers experience.
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You're going to see a lot of heroic actions from
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battles in Afghanistan in Iraq where of course you're going
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to have the natural story arcs of the protagonists of
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the story.
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And then the peripheral characters that.
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Get killed are injured, and you'll see the emotional roller
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coaster that the protagonist is going through.
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But at the end there's going to be to get payoffs,
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saying it was worth all the bloodshed.
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And all the killing that I had to go through
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to get to the goal that we needed to attain
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at the end of the film. So if that movie
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comes out early summer, I really do think that we're
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going to see a much longer protracted war in Iran,
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and I think this project itself is laying the baseline
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for that.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. All Right,
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next topic I want to get into is Kyle Busch.
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I just I said at the top of the program.
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When Kobe Bryant died, I think there was a at
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least for myself, there was a feeling of no, that's impossible. Know,
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the guy's younger than I am. How could this possibly happen?
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And when I first saw it, came across on TMZ, and.
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Then I had contacted a friend.
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Of mine who was a huge Lakers fan, and he's like, no, way,
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shut up, you're lying. And then he texted me back
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and saying, oh my god, I can't believe it. And
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he was just he was in more shocked than I was.
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You know, I just I kind of went through with,
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you know, with what I had read.
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It's like, Okay, it's shocking, but that's you know, it's official.
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He's dead. And the same thing with Kyle Busch. It's like,
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what I just saw him race on Sunday, There's no way.
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And then you start reading more and more about.
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What led up to his death yesterday, and then you
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hear the radio transmission from the in car communication and
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he's talking about his sinus infection. He's like, you'd meet
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doctor so, have doctor so and so.
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Meet me at my bus and give me a shot.
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And then you know, just before I was.
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Recording this story broke that Kyle Busch was inside a
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racing simulator and was getting over hot, getting you know,
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overheated and really hot, and then started throwing up blood, which.
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Didn't sound right at all. And I guess TMZ is
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located or got their hands on a partial nine one
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one call.
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So I think it's too early to kind of speculate
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on what caused this. But when a forty one year
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old man dies it's not going to be of natural causes,
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you know, like Kobe Bryant's helicopter crash not a natural cause.
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Was a helicopter tampered with? I don't think so. I
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know that he had been in a lawsuit and won
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the lawsuit against Big Pharma.
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Would they be motivated to tamper with the helicopter. I
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don't know. Maybe they're you know, they're.
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They're they're not the most noble of people that work
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in that industry. But according to the NTSB, there was
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nothing wrong with the helicopter. I personally think in that instance,
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the helicopter pilot really enjoyed the cachet of flying Kobe
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and his family around and knowing that the weather was
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he shouldn't be flying in that kind of inclement weather,
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and decided to do it anyways because he felt the
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pressure it didn't want to tell Kobe no. Because especially
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in Hollywood, in the entertainment business and then businesses adjacent
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to the entertainment business, and I kind of sometimes lump
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sports in there too, because you're dealing with celebrity at
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this point. And I don't know if you know about this,
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but you know, big Hollywood stars and also you know,
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celebrity athletes are surrounded by yes people.
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They don't really hear know every once in a while.
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And of course I'm being sarcastic about this, and I
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think this is one of those instances where the pilot
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knew that he shouldn't but was just being a yes man,
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and unfortunately it had a catastrophic result.
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Now, Kyle Bush, he was involved in a lawsuit that
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it had to do with.
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Insurance, had to do with life insurance and overpaying on premiums,
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and I guess in February of this year there was
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a settlement reach between his estate or his family and
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the company, the insurance provider, for an undisclosed amount.
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Is that motivation to kill somebody? I wouldn't think so.
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So I'm gonna but I can't discount that.
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You know, I'm looking at this from an investigator of perspective,
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and even though you know I have nothing to do
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with the investigation, I just like to put myself in
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that position so.
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You can't rule them out.
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Now, this new revelation about being becoming overheated and throwing
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up blood.
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That got the hairs on my neck.
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To stand up a little bit because we're hearing about huntavirus.
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We're hearing about a new Ebola outbreak and Democratic Republic.
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Of Congo, which anytime anything bad.
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Happens in the Democratic Republic of Congo, I kind of
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just sort of blow it off because I was arrested there,
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and my sound guy calls it a kidnapping because he
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was arrested alongside me.
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So I really don't have that pleasant of a memory
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of DRC. And so when the Ebola outbreak happened, I
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was like, eh, whatever, you know.
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I feel sorry for the people to get because it's
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a very horrible way to die. And Ebola and Marburg virus,
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all these are hemorrhagic fevers, and to me, in that
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description sounded and it sounded to me like, you know,
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signs of hemorrhagic fever Ebola. There's a great book called
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The Hot Zone written by Richard Preston that I suggest
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you if you want to read about viruses in Ebola outbreaks,
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that would be the one.
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It also goes into HIV and AIDS.
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Then it talks about the rested monkeys and how we
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00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.279
almost had an Ebola.
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Outbreak in the United States when these Ebola monkeys were
502
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:54.319
being you know, we're found in a laboratory in Reston, Virginia. Anyway,
503
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.480
it's a really good book. I enjoyed it quite a bit,
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and I read that years ago.
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It's probably been thirty thirty five years ago since I
506
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.839
first read that book. But what I learned with my
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00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.680
takeaway from it was with ebola and marburg or hemorrhagic fevers,
508
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.519
and the incubation process of the Ebola virus, let's say,
509
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.480
is very quick, Whereas, like.
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With COVID, you could be exposed to it and a
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few days.
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00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.799
Later you would develop a running nose, cold, fever and
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00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.599
everything else that came along with it. Where And you
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00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.680
could be a carrier of it and not have any
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00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.599
symptoms yourself, but then give it to somebody else's. Ebola
516
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:43.000
is totally not like that. If you are exposed to
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00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:48.599
the virus on let's say a Sunday, by Thursday, you're dead.
518
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.119
And what happens to you is you get a lot
519
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.759
of nausea, a lot of fatigue.
520
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:59.000
But with the hemorrhagic side of the fever, your internal organs,
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00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:03.240
your heart, your liver, your kidneys, they all start to liquefy.
522
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.160
It's a very painful way to die.
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00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:09.599
You start coughing up blood and you just you die
524
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.519
within five or six days of contractiveness.
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00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.480
And I'm not saying Kyle Busch had ebola.
526
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:24.039
Or marburing virus or any kind of hemorrhagic fever, but
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00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.799
that's what jumped into my head when I first heard
528
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.759
about this nine one one call and the symptoms that
529
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.160
he was showing at that time.
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00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:37.079
When he was in the race simulator. So you know,
531
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.720
I would I don't think that there's going to be
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00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.640
an Ebola outbreak or even a Marber outbreak.
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00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.039
You know, I think the last Marburg outbreak was in
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00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.079
nineteen seventy six and Marberg, Germany, therefore the name of it.
535
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.200
It could be something like it. Yeah, it could be.
536
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:58.440
Anything's possible.
537
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.559
But what I know for certain is a forty one
538
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.519
year old, healthy professional athlete just doesn't die. There's gonna
539
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.680
be all kinds of extenuating factors that went into this,
540
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.920
and hopefully we'll get the truth.
541
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:14.720
You know, I look back to.
542
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.759
The Damar Hamlin incident, and I know a lot of
543
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.839
people picked up on the debate about was it the
544
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.319
COVID vaccine or.
545
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.000
Was it the hit that he took? And for those
546
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.119
who forget Damar Hamlin.
547
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.920
He was a defensive player for the Buffalo Bills and
548
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.519
on a Monday night game, he collapsed in the middle
549
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.000
of the field and CPR.
550
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.160
Was performed on him to save his life. And of
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00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.079
course we were told that the.
552
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:49.640
Hit that he took the collision caused his heart to stop.
553
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.720
But there were people like myself who watched the collision
554
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.759
over and over again. It's like, there's no way he
555
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.400
wasn't hit that hard to justify his heart stopping. And
556
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.119
then you had other medical professionals, you know, chiming in, well,
557
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:04.000
it's the angle.
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00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.039
It doesn't necessarily have to be the force of the hit,
559
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:08.159
the blunt trauma.
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00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.840
And when I started hearing people's backpedal, the explanation instead
561
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of the.
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First explanation was he got hit so hard that his
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heart stopped.
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00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.199
Okay, I could believe that happening, because you hear about
565
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.559
it when people are wearing body armor and get shot.
566
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.599
That blunt force trauma sometimes causes people's hearts to stop
567
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
and they'll die from.
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00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.320
Not having their heart, you know, getting restarted. That sounds plausible,
569
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.639
But then when you watch the hit, it doesn't seem.
570
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.559
Like a hit that would cause that and so that
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00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.599
you spawned on the alternative narrative that well, it just
572
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:46.840
it depends on the angle.
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00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.000
You know, it was the right angle. The force may
574
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.760
have not been that hard or seemingly that hard, but
575
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:52.639
it was the angle.
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00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:56.679
It's like, oh, okay, so now you're trying to convince
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00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.280
me of something of a reason other than the initial
578
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:04.199
one that you told me.
579
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.360
But based on the initial one that you told me.
580
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.079
So it was the hit, but it was the angle,
581
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.679
not just the sheer force. Okay, So now we're backtracking
582
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:15.239
a little bit.
583
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.800
That's what's going to give me cause about give me
584
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:30.039
pause about the final the final statement about Kyle Busch.
585
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.719
You know, I mean, we've been lied to so many
586
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.400
times about so many things by our government, by the media,
587
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.039
by guys in white coats with stethoscopes.
588
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.599
By dancing nurses. You know.
589
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.719
I just I don't want another lockdown or another outbreak
590
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.480
of anything, because quite frankly, I don't think I can handle.
591
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.280
Any more TikTok videos, dancing nurses.
592
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.960
That was like one of the worst parts about cod
593
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.320
for me COVID was I didn't I hated it because
594
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.639
everything was locked down. And when I particularly hated about
595
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.440
it was the fact that I saw fellow Americans just
596
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.480
go okay, yeah, we're in where I thought the American
597
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.800
spirit was still alive, and people are gonna be like,
598
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.760
fuck this shit, We're not shutting down. We're gonna carry
599
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.480
on with our lives. We're Americans. We don't back down
600
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.360
to jack shit. And the next thing I know, it's.
601
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.960
Like the yes, the half next joy of the cut agains.
602
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.239
Yes, they're having a barbecue at their backyard and there's
603
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.559
more than five people there.
604
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.320
Though could you sit it's the black car over it
605
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.000
break up their barbecue. I couldn't believe that Americans turned
606
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.480
into that. It was just it was mind numbing to me.
607
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.559
So I'm very hesitant about what's gonna happen the next time.
608
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.519
If there is like an e bowl up right, holy smokes,
609
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.239
If it isn't, if it is hemorrhagic fever like that
610
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:02.840
where the mortality is fifty percent per higher, then yeah,
611
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:03.760
you'll probably.
612
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:09.719
See me, you know, being locked down. But I just
613
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.360
I still can't.
614
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.039
Really get over that Kyle Bush is dead, especially seeing
615
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.719
him participating here driving you.
616
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.239
Know, just under a week ago.
617
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.360
It's just it's really hard for me to wrap my
618
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.000
head around. It was kind of the same way, the
619
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.079
same feeling that I had. The first time that I
620
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.800
had ever felt anything like that with the professional athlete
621
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:31.800
would have to be Thurman Munson.
622
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.559
And when I was a kid, and I remember seeing
623
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.440
the newspaper, and I was growing up in Florida, so
624
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.280
we didn't get very many baseball games during the week.
625
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.079
You know, occasionally we get, like, you know, the Saturday
626
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.480
night game, and then of course, you know, they had
627
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.719
Monday Night Baseball. So I was familiar with who Thurman
628
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.800
Munson was because at least with Monday Night Baseball, there
629
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.000
was a lot of times that you would get a
630
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.320
New York Yankees game. And I remember looking at the
631
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.760
front page of the Naples Daily News and seeing the
632
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.400
crashed airplane and going, holy crap, I can't believe he's dead.
633
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.159
And it was the first time that.
634
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.519
I had dealt with the death of somebody who I
635
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.159
didn't know, but it affected me, and it affected me
636
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.239
just because.
637
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.239
I had seen him on TV. I didn't know Thurman Munson.
638
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.519
I'd never had an interaction with him, but I felt like,
639
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.679
you know, I was aware of who he was, and
640
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.880
I knew that he was a human being and that's
641
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.960
a lot different than hearing about.
642
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.760
Somebody who dies that you have no frame of reference for.
643
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.559
So you could hear, you know, back then, if you
644
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.679
heard that, I don't know who would be a good example.
645
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.639
But if you never saw a video of them, you
646
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.719
just saw pictures of him, it was like, eh, you know,
647
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.639
kind of like when you read the Bible. At least
648
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.840
for me, it's like I never really understood what Jerusalem
649
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.920
was was, or just like the layout, because in Catholic
650
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.079
school they never did really did a good job about
651
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:11.079
putting things in perspective of like showing you how life
652
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.159
was in the times of Jesus, so you really did
653
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.719
At least for myself, I didn't have any sort of
654
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.440
baseline to.
655
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.079
Imagine what was going on in the stories that I
656
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.400
was being told. I just knew that Lepers scared the
657
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.760
shit out of me. Other than that, it was like,
658
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:31.880
all right, these are just people, and this, you know,
659
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.719
is a fun story. But I had no frame of
660
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.679
reference for it. And so for me with Thurman Munson,
661
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:39.119
there was a.
662
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.480
Frame of reference, and I just remember kind of walking
663
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.320
around going, wow, this is weird. I can't you know,
664
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.719
I don't know how to really deal with this, but
665
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.920
you know that his death was a little bit different
666
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.159
where it was a plane crash and it's like very
667
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:56.840
cutting your eye.
668
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.840
He was doing touch and goes in Akron, Ohio and crashed,
669
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.079
so tragic. Same thing with Kyle Busch. I feel really
670
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.159
bad for he and his family, and I hope we
671
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:11.199
get to the bottom of it.
672
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:18.440
All right, last, but not least, and I mentioned it
673
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.159
several times now to film.
674
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.159
To Live in Die In La.
675
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.480
Most people are familiar with William Friedkin, and you're familiar
676
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.119
with him because.
677
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.239
He's won five Academy Awards. He was a director of
678
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:40.840
The Exorcist in the French Connection, That's what most people
679
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:42.280
know about William's career.
680
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.519
That's at least what I knew about William's career. It
681
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.920
wasn't until recently, I would say two months ago.
682
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.280
I watched to Live in Die In La and was
683
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:54.199
blown away by it.
684
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.760
So I started doing a little bit more research into
685
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:04.840
William Freakin and and other than like I said, the
686
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:06.199
extra system French Connection.
687
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.199
This is kind of a funny story. So back in
688
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.159
let's say twenty seventeen, I started going gray in my
689
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.039
beard and I was like, all right, my Vanity's gotten
690
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.400
the best of me. So I'm gonna dye my beard, right.
691
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.719
So I go to the store, buy the products and everything,
692
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.519
put it in my beard in the way that.
693
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.840
You know, I had my beard cropped. It was very
694
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.159
in the length of it was very reminiscent of Randy
695
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.199
the Macho Man savage, and so I threw on a
696
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.719
cowboy hat and.
697
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.679
I look like, you know, the TMU bea version of
698
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.079
the Macho Man, just a little less fringe.
699
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:52.920
What I didn't realize is when it comes to paradise,
700
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.880
there's a specific ingredient in it, and I can't think
701
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.840
of the name of it, but it's very common for
702
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.360
people to be allergic to I want to say it's
703
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:06.840
I can't even come up with the name of it
704
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:11.519
right now. Anyways, So I tell my wife, you're not
705
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.800
going to believe what's going on. My face is burning.
706
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.400
And then a couple of days later, you know, there's
707
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.519
puss coming out of the hair in my beard. So
708
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.159
I shave off my beard. She's like, you got to
709
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.280
go see a dermatologist. She gives me the name of
710
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:29.199
her dermatologist. I show up there and while I'm in
711
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.559
there filling out my paperwork. I'd go back up to
712
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.199
the receptionist to drop it off and there's an older
713
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.480
guy standing there and it's William Friedkin and I look
714
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.840
at him. He looks at me and he has this
715
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.360
look on his face of I know that you know
716
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.360
that you know who I am. And I was like,
717
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.280
mister Freedkin. He's like, you got it. And I was like,
718
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.320
let me tell you.
719
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.480
You know, it's a pleasure to meet. My name's Tom Cunningham.
720
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.360
And he's like, nice to meet you. I said, I'm,
721
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.000
you know, a big fan of your work. And at
722
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.840
the time I'd only known The Exorcist in the French connection.
723
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.119
I was like, I'm sure you've heard this a million times,
724
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.440
but the Exorcist really.
725
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.280
Scared the crap on of me. He's like, you're right,
726
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.719
I have heard that a million times. He was a
727
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.880
very nice guy. I wish I would have had I
728
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:31.960
wish I would have known. Now, what how do you get?
729
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.039
What's that? How do you say that? I wish I
730
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.159
would have known then what I don't now? There there
731
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:38.360
you go.
732
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.199
My brain sometime fires a little bit differently than it should,
733
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.440
and I just wish I would have been a little
734
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.280
bit more familiar with his work, and then I went
735
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.280
in to see the dermatologist and I had burnt.
736
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.840
You know, most of my face from here down to
737
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.440
here down to my neck. It was a mess. It
738
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.559
looked like second degree burns on my face. And still
739
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.159
to this day, I still have a beard because I
740
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:11.960
still have scarage, scarage, my scars from that ill fated
741
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beard dying escapade.
742
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Anyways, So getting back to William Freakin, or as his
743
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.519
friends call him Bill or Billy, I started watching.
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His films and then did a deep dive into his
745
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.239
career and what I had come up with. And I
746
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.039
also downloaded his audio book. This is a good one.
747
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.760
It's called The Freaking Freakin Connection.
748
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.559
And I'm in the first couple of chapters of the book,
749
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.760
and so William's talking about, you know, how he got
750
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.519
into the business, which is very similar to the way
751
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.920
that I got into the business. Where he didn't know
752
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.800
what he wanted to do as far as a career goes,
753
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.119
and he was really young, and he got a job
754
00:44:59.199 --> 00:44:59.400
at a.
755
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:00.960
TV state the mailroom.
756
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.760
I knew I wanted to work in television or film somehow,
757
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.159
so I got a job at a TV station, just
758
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:11.360
not in the mail room. I went into the studio
759
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.119
and became a studio camera operator, where William went from
760
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.639
the mail room to being a floor director to all
761
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.840
the live shows.
762
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.400
That they were doing at WGN at the time.
763
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:29.920
So his first, the first project he ever did was
764
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:37.239
a documentary called The People Versus Paul Crump. And Paul
765
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.119
Crump was a death row inmate in Illinois who was
766
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.280
implicated in a robbery where somebody had died in the robbery,
767
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.440
and I guess WGN was.
768
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.280
Covering it as a news story and.
769
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.960
Freak getting it, read about it in the newspaper and
770
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.880
got a hold of the main players and talked to
771
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.880
the main players, you know, the Paul Crump, the prosecuting
772
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.639
attorney and the detectives, everybody involved in the case. And
773
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.039
then he went to somebody at WGN and said, hey,
774
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.639
you know, I'd like to do a documentary or I'd
775
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.320
like to do a story about Paul Crump. And they're like, okay, well,
776
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.599
here's you know six grand I think he went privately
777
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:23.159
to do it.
778
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:25.760
Anyways, he came up with the budget for it.
779
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.519
WGN let him use the equipment, and he had a cameraman,
780
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.280
Bill something or other, and.
781
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:34.519
They did the documentary.
782
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.000
Documentary is fantastic.
783
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.440
The first couple of minutes of it, you could really
784
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.719
tell where William Freed can.
785
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.119
The influence or I don't know if you're born with
786
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.559
it or how it happened, because the camera guy, you know,
787
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.480
shot everything, but you could definitely tell William had taken
788
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:59.719
the shots from the opening sequence to that and implement it,
789
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.679
implemented those shots in every production that he's ever had,
790
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.480
and it was really revealing to me that something that
791
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.039
he did so long ago, that it would be something
792
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.639
that he would go back to with each subsequent feature.
793
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:18.159
Film that he did. So anyways, he does this film.
794
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:25.519
Paul Crump, the governor of Illinois, sees this documentary and
795
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.360
commutes crumpsons and so Crump is.
796
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.800
Later released out of prison, but has a really.
797
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:36.360
Bad go of it in life and alcoholism, mental illness,
798
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.599
and ends up dying of cancer. I think in like
799
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:48.480
two thousand or nineteen ninety three, maybe two It doesn't matter,
800
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:51.559
Paul Krump is dead. But what I'm saying to you
801
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.679
is from.
802
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.800
That moment on, you can tell in a lot of William.
803
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.920
Friedkin's films that he uses the technique of filmmaking where
804
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.079
it's very handheld.
805
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.480
A lot of cinema varitates to it. The camera's moving
806
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.119
as a dialogue is.
807
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:12.119
Happening, and you feel like you're not watching a feature film,
808
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:17.079
you're watching actual reality happen. Whereas a lot of times
809
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.960
when you're watching a film, you have nicely composed shots
810
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.800
and it goes from shot to shot to shot, whereas
811
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:32.960
with's freaking, the camera almost becomes the audience and you're
812
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.400
in the scene with everybody, and you're moving around as
813
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.440
you would, you know, if you were in a room
814
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.000
with a group of people. That's the idea of the
815
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.119
whole fluid style of cinema Verite is to get the
816
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.920
audience to feel that you're a part of the scene
817
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:55.519
of what's going on. And until I started studying his films,
818
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.400
I didn't realize but that was the same techniques that
819
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:00.519
I was using.
820
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.079
And my colleagues were using in reality television. You know,
821
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.400
on shows like Cops. When you watch Cops, the whole.
822
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.559
Goal for us when we're filming Cops, and especially for myself,
823
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.039
I'll say this because I'm the only one that's articulated
824
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.199
my whole goal when I was working on that show
825
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.280
as a camera operator, was to.
826
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.559
Make the audience feel like they were the ones sitting
827
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.079
in the passenger siver of the car.
828
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:32.000
The camera just became an extension of my eyeball and
829
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.840
it was a vehicle for somebody sitting at.
830
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.519
Home to feel like this. They were in there, they
831
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.679
were in the action. And so every time that you know,
832
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.239
we'd get out of the car, we'd film a scene.
833
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.639
And with Verite, Verite is a lot different than most
834
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:53.280
of productions because the motivation of the camera lends is
835
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:54.280
based solely on.
836
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.199
The dialogue or the sounds that are happening.
837
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.880
So all your camera moves are dictated by people's speech
838
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.239
patterns and by different sounds that you hear.
839
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.320
That are going on in the periphial that help you
840
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.159
advance that story. So let me let me explain it
841
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.679
this way. You're filming a scene with two people. A
842
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:28.719
conversation has a natural momentum to it, It hasural, uh
843
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.599
sort of rhythmic beats to it.
844
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.079
And as a camera as a Verite camera operator, you
845
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:41.840
find yourself working within those sort of musical beats of
846
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:46.280
the conversation. And so instead of following a conversation where
847
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.079
you know you're ping pong back and forth between what's
848
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.119
being said. You're listening to what's being said, and then
849
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.239
you're moving the camera in the direction.
850
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.119
So, for example, if you have.
851
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.239
A police officer officer is talking to a suspect, and
852
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.039
the police officer says.
853
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:05.920
Do you have a driver's license on you?
854
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.079
I know what's coming, and so what I might do is,
855
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.360
in the middle of the officer saying do you have
856
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.320
a driver's license on you, I'll slowly move the camera
857
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.159
to the person because I know it's going to be
858
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.320
a yes no question, And if the person is lying,
859
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:23.480
there are going to be certain tells that they have
860
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.800
in their faces that are going to let the audience
861
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:32.280
knows subconsciously that this person is being less than truthful,
862
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.480
and a lot of times that's what the officers pick
863
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:40.880
up on too. So in filming this style, oftentimes you
864
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:45.800
rely on what's not being set as motivation to move.
865
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.840
The lens as opposed to what's being set.
866
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.239
I know that sounds like I'm contradict addicting what I
867
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.199
said in the beginning, but trust me, it all makes
868
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.280
sense if you go go back, if you have a chance,
869
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.039
look at old episodes of cops, and you'll know not
870
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.039
that the camera lens always moves on the motivation of
871
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.159
what's being said, So as.
872
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.599
A camera operator.
873
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.679
At that time, you're always count You're constantly looking at
874
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:19.480
life three steps ahead of where you think life is going.
875
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.320
I know that sounds really weird.
876
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.800
But trust me, it works because whatever moment that you're
877
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.199
living in with your lens, you have to think, Okay,
878
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.199
the progression of this conversation and where it's going to
879
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.440
be going, where is it likely to be three levels
880
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:42.760
from now, And so you're constantly preparing yourself and trying
881
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.440
to connect the dots in a way.
882
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.920
That you won't be asleep when you get to that
883
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.280
third spot, and then you count three more levels from
884
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:54.639
where you're at at that point.
885
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.440
I know I'm confusing a lot of you because I'm
886
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:02.840
confusing myself, But the bottom line is there's a rhythm
887
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.360
to pure veritae, and in reality television we had it,
888
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.360
and with scripted feature films freaking had it too. And
889
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.360
that was something that I wish that I had the
890
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.320
opportunity to talk to him about because the way that
891
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:24.679
he uses that is so brilliant in telling his stories.
892
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.559
Because you forget a lot of times you watch films
893
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.480
and you forget that what you're watching is actually.
894
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:33.760
Scripted, and that you buy into it.
895
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:36.440
He had such a great way of drawing people in,
896
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:39.960
even more just because of the camera moves and the
897
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.920
grittiness that he used, and that.
898
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.159
Really comes across in I think probably.
899
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.400
My favorite of William Freakin's movies is one I just
900
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.320
watched a couple of weeks ago called Sorcerer.
901
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.280
And it has nothing to do with the occult. It
902
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.880
has nothing to do with any haunting or anything like that.
903
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:02.360
It has to do.
904
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.400
Here's the plot of the movie. You've got four people
905
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.559
from different parts of the world. You've got a small
906
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:12.480
timehood was played.
907
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.360
By Roy Scheider in New Jersey.
908
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:20.639
You've got a Palestinian terrorist who blows up part of
909
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.639
one of the walls in Jerusalem. You have a corrupt
910
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:29.079
businessman from Paris who's facing prison time.
911
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.000
And then you have a hit man.
912
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:37.480
From Mexico who murders somebody and has to get out
913
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.119
of the country. Will all four of these people end
914
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:41.920
up in a South American village.
915
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:46.079
In this village is beyond poor. I've been to a
916
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.760
lot of poor places in my career, and what I felt.
917
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.719
In one of the poorest and one of the most
918
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.480
pathetic places I've ever been is a refugee camp in Congo,
919
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:01.199
and it's just the most desperate attus place that you'll
920
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:02.800
ever see in your entire life.
921
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.079
And while filming in there, it was hard to.
922
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.119
Capture that desperation, you know, it just it looks like
923
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.519
you know, UNICEF commercials and this and that.
924
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.239
But Freaking was able to pull.
925
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:24.800
That desperation out and put it onto screen where you
926
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:25.559
can feel it.
927
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.719
You're like, man, there is no way this is a
928
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:30.679
movie set. This is real.
929
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.920
And to his credit, Freaking all his background actors or
930
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:36.639
all people from that environment.
931
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.400
He actually, you know, in this film did shoot in
932
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:39.840
a slum.
933
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.039
He shot in the city that was actually there and
934
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.280
that desperate and a lot of his cast and crew
935
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.679
ended up getting sick just because of the amount of
936
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:54.199
time and the exposure to like giardia and other kind
937
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:55.760
of tropical diseases.
938
00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:01.360
They filmed it a lot of it in dom in Republic, Mexico,
939
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:06.360
in New Jersey, but the crew got sick the most,
940
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:14.079
I believe, in a Dominican Republic. But getting back to
941
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.440
the crew part of it, I know, even the whole
942
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.880
year's you know, in the years that we're living in
943
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.920
risk management and mitigating risk. I get it.
944
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.000
But what I found in my career the times that
945
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.360
I have been pushed physically beyond the limitations that I
946
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.960
thought I had that came.
947
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.239
Across on screen.
948
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.880
And I've come up with the term where I call
949
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.320
myself when it comes when it came to filming things,
950
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.679
a chaotic impath EmPATH and being.
951
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.199
A chaotic impact means that you thrive.
952
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.000
In chaos, but you also have the empathy to absorb
953
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.039
the energy of the people that you're filming.
954
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.920
Whether it's a cop talking to a junkie, or a
955
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.880
thief or a murderer, whether it's a Green Beret talking
956
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.880
with an I'll tier a Taliban person. I can put myself.
957
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.599
I can I draw, almost like an energy vampire. I
958
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.639
can draw off the energy of those people.
959
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.400
I'm not really drawing energy, I'm feeling their energy. Whatever
960
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:21.400
they're putting out.
961
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:25.280
Into the world, I'm absorbing as an EmPATH, and that
962
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:30.480
absorption is an EmPATH helps me. That allows me to
963
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:35.000
be able to tell that story from more of an
964
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.199
intimate setting than somebody just holding a camera.
965
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.679
And ping pong back and forth on the dialogue that's
966
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:43.320
you know, playing out in front of me.
967
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:51.440
And being able to have that, you know, being able
968
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:57.039
to make yourself receptive to that energy also comes in
969
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.599
the scripted world, and you can see it in Sorcerer
970
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:05.639
in particular. Whoever the camera operator was even though it
971
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.840
wasn't reality happening in front of him, but the acting
972
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.039
in the dialogue was so compelling that he was filming
973
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:18.159
it as if it was actually, you know, that reality
974
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.920
was unfolding in front of him, and you feel that
975
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.559
as an audience member watching this film.
976
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.079
You it's like.
977
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.480
You know that you're watching a movie, but in this
978
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:37.239
particular movie, you feel like a documentary crew just stumbled
979
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.159
upon these people out in the middle of the jungle
980
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.239
and started filming them. All right, I know I went
981
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.039
off on a tangent there, So let me get back
982
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.320
to the plot of it. So you have these four guys,
983
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:49.639
they make they make their weary down to the South
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American village.
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There's this oil platform in the middle.
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Of the jungle that blows up and the only way
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to cap it is through dynamite. The owners of the
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oil company.
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Find that there's a stash of dynamite.
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But the problem with the dynamite is it's starting to
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leak metro glycerin and it's very dicey for them to
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transport it across the jungle.
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So the oil company goes into this you know, horribly you.
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Know raveitously depressed town and wants volunteers to drive two
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trucks filled with this deteriorating.
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Dynamite to get it to the oil field so they
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can cap the oil well. So of course the selection
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is made. They put the everybody through the paces, just
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crying out, and it's our four main characters who.
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End up getting the job to take the dynamite through
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the through the jungle. What else is really impressive about
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this film is in the beginning is the total setup
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for our characters.
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But during the film there's no character development.
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You don't know any backstories about any of these people
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other than what was laid out from you in the beginning.
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But that part doesn't matter because you're so.
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Invested in the then and now of what they're doing
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that their backstory doesn't matter.
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You can kind of get a glimpse of their personality
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through the scenes that they're playing in and going back
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to the beginning of the movie, as.
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Their personality sort of developed, not their characters, but their personalities.
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You start getting a clearer window on.
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What may have led them to get to the point
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where they assassinated somebody, they blew up, you know, part
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of the wall in Jerusalem, why there was a you know,
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business fraud, what led you know, the Roy Scheider character
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to being a wheelman and a robbery gang.
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So you get glimpses of that. And then at the
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end of the film, the end of the film really
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has a surprise.
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Ending to it, and I'm not going to give it away.
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I'm just gonna highly recommend, you know, taking the.
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Time going to Amazon and I believe it's free and
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having a watch of Sorcerer.
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And the reason why one of the main reason why
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Sorcerer didn't do very well one was the title.
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Oh the reason why it has the title of Sorcerer
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is that's what the Roy Scheider character named his truck.
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It has nothing to do with any kind of magic
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or anything like that.
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So I saw, you know, interviews with William Friedkin saying
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he kind of regrets naming it that, but he saw
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that truck, you know, that word written on the side
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of a truck in the Philippines as he was researching
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the movie, he realized that, you know, truck drivers would
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always named their trucks, just as you know, captains of
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boats name their boats, and he came up with Sorcerer
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and it stuck. But he also had the stigma of
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the Exorcist, so people were like, oh, it's the Exorcist guy,
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he's got another devil movie coming out, So a lot
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of people weren't into it. And plus this movie came
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on the heels of Star Wars and everybody was you know,
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total Star Wars for the entire you know, summer of
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nineteen seventy seven, carrying on into.
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Excuse me where we are now.
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So even though it was panned, and it wasn't panned
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by critics, critics liked it, but it was a box
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office flop. So I would say do yourself a favor.
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Check out Sorcerer, and also on YouTube, if you want
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to check it out, check out the People Versus Paul Crump.
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It's a really, really, really good documentary and that's free
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as well. Thanks for thanks for clicking on and hearing
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what I have to say. Sorry went a little bit
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longer longer today, but that's what happens when I let
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my kind of spastic brain get the best of me.
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If you want to follow me on social media, I'm
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on x at Run the World Tom, And you can
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also find.
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My substack, Dad's Accidental Education on substack. And I also
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appear on a sports show Tuesdays and Thursdays with my
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good buddy Drew Birkwist. It's called Balls and Banter and
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that can be seen at three pm live Tuesdays and
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Thursdays on Drew Burkwist Rumble in YouTube channels, or if
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you can't catch the live show, check.
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It out wherever you download all your podcasts. All right,
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we'll see you next week.
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Spending the globe from the four corners of the world,
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traveling the ollow while entertaining millions in secrecy. These are
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lessons learned through not so average experiences from a life
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spent creative reality television.
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This is accidental
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Education with your guys, Doctor Tom Cunning have esquire am
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I Turdds
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Welcome to Accidental Education Reality Lab. I am Tom Cunningham,
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your professor, and this week is like the rest. It's
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really been on steroids for those of you who don't
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know me, and this is the first time that you're
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clicking onto one of my videos.
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My name is Tom Cunningham.
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I've been working in the world of reality television since
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nineteen ninety six. I've worked on a lot of shows,
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ranging from The Cops TV show, to The Apprentice, to
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The Amazing Race, Undercover Boss, and quite a few projects
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involving Afghanistan and different countries in Africa, especially third world countries,
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and I've done a lot in Asia as well.
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Primarily India.
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That seemed to be the country that I would get
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the most calls for to do projects in India. So
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the baseline for my podcast as well as my sub
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stack is accidental education. Of course is the fact that
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I don't have a traditional college degree. I have an
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associated arts degree and a lot of what I've learned
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in the course of my life is on accident, and
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in the main, happy accident that caused my education was
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my career. And so this podcast as well as my
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sub stack, highlights the different lessons in.
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Lessons, in.
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Exposures to different environments that helped me look through different
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kind of news stories and political agendas.
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That are out there. So this week there's a couple
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of things I want to talk about.
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One, the new Michael bay movie that's coming out, about
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the movie Epic Fury and the two fighter pilots that
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went down and Iran that I've got a lot of
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questions about that. And also i to discuss the I
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guess heartbreaking and shocking death of Kyle Busch yesterday.
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That was just it was insane.
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I've never really, you know, other than Kobe Bryant, I
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can't remember just going holy smokes.
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I can't just I can't believe that just happened.
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And then finally, I want to talk about a filmmaker
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I've talked about in past episodes, William Friedkin, and a
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few episodes back, I talked about his film To Live
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and Die in la And since then I've done a
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little bit more research into William Friedkin and I've watched
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a few more of his movies. In the latest movie
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that I watched of his was called Sorcerer, and it
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has nothing to do with any kind of like abercadabra
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type stuff. It has to do with driving trucks through
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a jungle. All right, So without further ado, what do
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you say.
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We go ahead and play the intro.
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Spending the globe from the four corners of the world,
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traveling the while entertaining millions in secrecy. These are lessons
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learned through not so average experiences from a life.
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Spent creative reality. Television is accidental.
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The case.
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With your gun, Doctor Tom Cunning esquire a turds.
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All right, so let's get started. And when I saw
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the story come.
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Across social media, I was thinking to myself, and what
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I'm talking about is Michael bay teaming up with I
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think Mitchell Mitchell Zukoff.
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Mitchell Zukoff is a journalist I think at the New
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York Times who has written a lot of books.
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He did Thirteen Hours, The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.
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He's done. He's done a few more, but that one,
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the Benghazi.
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Book, the Thirteen Hours, is the one that he teamed
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up with Michael Bay on to do the film, which
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I think is a great film and kind of memorialized
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what happened at the attack on.
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The not embassy. But what do they call it the
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I don't know wherever, you know, in Benghazi. The christ
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evens the ambassador to Libya was staying the annex with
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the annex. Yeah, I think it's called the annex. AnyWho.
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So the book, which is really weird because this this
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incident happened back in April, and then all of a sudden.
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We get the announcement that they're making a movie about
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this incident.
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And the incident that I'm referring to are the two
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fighter pilots that got shot down in Iran and the
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rescue mission that ensued to extricate them from Iran for
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the bad guy of the IRGC got ahold of them.
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So in hearing this when it first happened, I was like, oh,
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this is a pretty compelling story.
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I'm sure there's a lot of.
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Behind the scenes action that happened, a lot of you know,
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decisions that were being made that you know, we're we're
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done under pressure and duress and making sure that they
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were done in a timely fashion. But what struck me
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is a lot of times when it comes to films,
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especially about the military, the turnaround process.
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Isn't as quick as this. You don't normally see ann
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an announcement of well this just happened. You know, let's say,
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let's take Venezuela. You know, a month later, we didn't hear. Oh,
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guess what.
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Peter berg Ising is teamed up with you know, Mitchell Zukoff,
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and they're going to do a story.
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About how they got Maduro out of Venezuela.
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Which I would like to see that because I don't
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know what Delta did to the the Cuban bodyguards of Maduro,
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but they all came back in shoe boxes, so I'd
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be kind of interested interested to see the technology that
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they had for that.
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But let me just go ahead and read to you
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the article that I came across and all about this
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new film project happening.
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All right, Director Michael Bay and author Mitchell Zukoff are
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teaming up with Universal Pictures for a new film.
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Titled Operation Epic Fury.
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Okay, so the title of this film is called Operation
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Epic at least that's the working title right now.
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It's very bizarre that they would you would title a.
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Film by the the war that's going on or the
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military operation that's happening, because Epic Fury is the umbrella
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for what's going on with.
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The war with the Ran. So usually within a war
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you're going to have little subsets of battles or missions
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that are all going to take on their own name.
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So to have this umbrella title for this film seems
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really strange to me, you know, right off the bat,
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you know, like I think, what was it.
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Triton Spear or Poseidon Spear or something like that was
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the mission to go get Osama bin Laden with the
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Seal team.
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So right off the bat that this to me just
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sounds like, you know, a big piece of propaganda when
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you're using the title Operation Epic Fury. All right, let's
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go on.
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It chronicles the recent real life US military rescue of
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two down F fifteen pilots in Iran. The script will
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be adapted from Zukov's upcoming book. All right, the book
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hasn't even been written by Mitchell Zukoff. And so now
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all of a sudden, you're telling me that based on
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this book, And okay, you know, Mitchell Zukov has a
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tremendous track record when it comes to books that he's
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published and also.
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Films, like I mentioned Thirteen Hours. He also did a book,
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a World War two book not in the Philippines, like
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in New Guinea, I think was the stage for that.
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But he's done it, clearly, He's done a lot.
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With the Department of Defense and being able to pull
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out information from these different historical events.
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That have happened.
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But again, it's really weird to me that the book
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hasn't come out and they're already announcing the movie that's
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based on this book that hasn't been written yet. Usually
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a book comes out and depending on the sales of
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the book, Hollywood studios are like, hey, you know what,
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this would make a really good movie.
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Let's go ahead to buy the rights to it and
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get it on the silver screen. So everything is going
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a little bit out of order.
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You're making an announcement of a film that's about to
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go in production based on a book that hasn't been
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written yet.
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go up. And when I say red flags, I don't
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mean anything nefarious. I'm just saying that this is so
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obvious to me a propaganda tool that's being used, because
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you're just going totally out of order of the way
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that studios and the government have worked for the last
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you know, one hundred and fifty years since.
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We started making movies.
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All right, here we go, as we go on the
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film will Reteam Bay and producer Scott Garden Now and
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Irwin Staff, marketing their second marketing their second collaboration with Zukoff,
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following their twenty sixteen military movie Thirteen Hours of Secret.
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Soldiers of Big Gazi. The film based on the the
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spring twenty twenty six.
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US rescue mission of in Iran's Zagros Mountains following the
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down f fifteen.
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E Strike Eagle. See why would you name like this
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film Strike Eagle, you know, just a thought or whatever.
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Why wouldn't you name it the mission that it was?
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Because I guarantee you whatever the fighter pilots were doing
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when they got shot down, they were on a specific mission.
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So that again, why would you name it epic fury?
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Let's see Strike Eagle?
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The operation involved a thirty six hour effort with hundreds
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of Special Forces commandos, dozens of US aircraft, and the
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CIA deception operation. All right, let's just take a look
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at that. So what was the CIA deception operation? Was
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it exploding you know, the C one thirties and the
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helicopters on the makeshift runway in the desert. Was that
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part of it, I don't know what'll we find out,
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or was that something totally different where this F fifteen
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Strike Eagle was covering was giving air support to those
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ground units that were engaged in another operation. To me,
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there's a lot of questions that need to be answered
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as far as the narrative goes.
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That I recall from the government is this plane gets
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shot down and to the pilot and the backseat guy
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go off.
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Into the mountains, and I think that one of them
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is rescued immediately, and then all of a sudden, you've got,
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you know, reports of other down to aircraft in the area.
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few hours later, and you know, you've got to see
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one thirties helicopters and I think like a Sea Stallion
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or something like that helicopter.
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what they were doing on this makeshift runway, other than
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they were part of the evacuation plan, which doesn't really
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make sense to me.
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If you're going to put people on the ground to
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go extricate the pilots, then you would have to set
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something up.
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So what happened in that time frame? And is that
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something that we're going to find out about in Zukoff's
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book or in the film.
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I don't know, but it seems like whatever narrative that
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the military, the Department of Defense wants, they're going to
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put it out.
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Their way through their pre approved book, in their pre
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approved movie.
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So again, this seems like narration formation right now in
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reconstructing what the truth is.
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So all right, let me go on the source material.
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The film is based on Mitchell Zukoff's forthcoming book about
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the mission, slated for publication by Harper Collins in twenty
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twenty seven.
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So the book is not even due out until twenty
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twenty seven, and you already have a film deal for it.
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That is a pretty good deal, so you're gonna so
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Zukov is getting up front money to write the book.
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to have a film adaptation made from the book that
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hasn't been written yet.
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I don't know who his agent is, but I would
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love to.
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Have that that's that agent representing me, because he's, you know,
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he's got a pretty good payday going. So all right,
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we have the basic premise of what's happening here, and
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we've heard Trump say it a million times.
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Oh you should have seen what was going on, because
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you know the rebeaming back video of the operation happening.
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military forces, with the Green Beray a team with marines, you.
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but I know what goes into you know, a rescue mission,
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but not really you know what.
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go about moving around quick reactionary forces, and I also
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have an idea of what it's like to film with
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the military and all the hoops that you have to
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jump through. And granted, when the president says I want
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to get something done, and being the commander in chief,
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all those hoops go away.
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in this book.
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lot of pride in retrieving those pilots, which he should,
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and you know, the great men that made it happen
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were on the ground women maybe, I don't know.
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be some female characters in there and show the public
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what went But still that kind.
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Of obscures the whole reason for the United States attacking Iran.
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is being fast tracked too.
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China has nothing to do with it. And China is
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one of the main financiers in Hollywood.
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So China's like, all right, we can make money off this,
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and as long as we're doing a propaganda.
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Film where we have nothing to do with what's going on.
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have no idea why we're.
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Fighting Iran, and most Americans don't like it. You know,
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you've got some of your hardcore, you know, maggot type
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people who are like, no matter what Trump says.
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They're like, oh, we're in whatever you did, fuck Iran,
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let's get them.
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Kill them all. And then you have other people like
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myself who consider myself more center.
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understand the old left, not the new left.
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The New Left is more.
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Communist, and I don't understand what the Democrat Party is about.
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the Republican Party just as much as the Democrat Party.
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that they thought Trump would turn into. It feels at
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times that he's actually turning into what they feared.
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I personally don't think so. I think would I like
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him to would I like Trump to handle things a
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bit differently? Yes? Did I think? Did I think it
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was a horrible misstep with the release of.
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The Epstein files and the try and gaslight everybody that
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Epstein was old news.
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I didn't like that at all, because that just leads everyone.
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group of people, which rightly or wrongly was identified by
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Uranium Propaganda as being the.
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Epstein class, and that Moniker is stuck. And I think
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for a lot of people like myself, that that's the
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perfect that's the perfect name for the group of elites
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that we think run the real run the world is
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the Epstein class. So back to this film. Michael Bay
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of course is a great filmmaker, lots of action, lots
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of you know, a large explosions. I'm sure the film
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is going to you know, do really well. But what
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Than the fact of how this whole deal came together,
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is how quickly we're going.
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To see a release and.
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With what I know about how films are made in
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the actual physical production of them, you know, from the
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pre production to the location production, whether it's you know,
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you're out on location, which obviously you're going to have
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to be with this, with the sets that need to
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be built, and then post production and then the delivery,
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then the launch of the film. You know, usually it
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takes about a year for that to happen. But with
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all the AI tools, they're now readily available for filmmaking.
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this will be. And my thought is the quicker the
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turnaround for this film, the longer.
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That we're going to be in Iran.
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as like Blackhawk Blackhawk Down was used right after nine
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to eleven.
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I know, it's a totally different incident, but following my train.
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being made in September. I think it probably the principal
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photography had been done and post production.
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nine to eleven, there were barely any war films out
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there that you know, weren't Vietnam related, and Operation Restore
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Hope with the Blackhawks going down in Somalia was a
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very compelling story that you know, Mark Bowden had written
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the book.
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Ridley Scott was directing. I believe it Ridley Scott or
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was it Tony Scott. It was one of the Scott brothers.
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don't know where they were feeling pressure from, whether it
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came from the government or they decided to capitalize on
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nine to eleven and say, oh, this is what we have.
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where we're trying to get Mohammad fair Idd.
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Two Blackhawks go down. One of the most vicious.
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three that nobody knows.
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About, so you know, let's make a film about it.
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So were the studio heads reading the tea leaves with
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how everybody was feeling in the United States, and instead
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of trying to, you know, resurrect Vietnam war movies, we
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had moved into, you know, getting out of the jungles
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of Vietnam and getting into.
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don't think the government played a hand in it.
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on the phone with one of the Scots and was.
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baby out. I don't think it happened that way. But
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Executives were like, holy smokes, we don't have any programming.
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war films, and so this was the one war film that.
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why Black Hawk Down came on the heels.
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Of September eleventh. It was a little bit of.
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by the events of nine to eleven. Is that what
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we're looking at now with this film Operation Epic Fury.
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end of the summer early fall, and then we see
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going to be in for the long haul with Iran.
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films about Afghanistan and in Iraq that don't really choose.
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going to be you know.
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battles in Afghanistan in Iraq where of course you're going
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to have the natural story arcs of the protagonists of
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the story.
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coaster that the protagonist is going through.
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saying it was worth all the bloodshed.
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to get to the goal that we needed to attain
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at the end of the film. So if that movie
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comes out early summer, I really do think that we're
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going to see a much longer protracted war in Iran,
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and I think this project itself is laying the baseline
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for that.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. All Right,
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next topic I want to get into is Kyle Busch.
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I just I said at the top of the program.
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When Kobe Bryant died, I think there was a at
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least for myself, there was a feeling of no, that's impossible. Know,
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the guy's younger than I am. How could this possibly happen?
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And when I first saw it, came across on TMZ, and.
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Then I had contacted a friend.
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Of mine who was a huge Lakers fan, and he's like, no, way,
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shut up, you're lying. And then he texted me back
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and saying, oh my god, I can't believe it. And
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he was just he was in more shocked than I was.
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You know, I just I kind of went through with,
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you know, with what I had read.
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It's like, Okay, it's shocking, but that's you know, it's official.
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He's dead. And the same thing with Kyle Busch. It's like,
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what I just saw him race on Sunday, There's no way.
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And then you start reading more and more about.
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What led up to his death yesterday, and then you
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hear the radio transmission from the in car communication and
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he's talking about his sinus infection. He's like, you'd meet
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doctor so, have doctor so and so.
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Meet me at my bus and give me a shot.
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And then you know, just before I was.
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Recording this story broke that Kyle Busch was inside a
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racing simulator and was getting over hot, getting you know,
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overheated and really hot, and then started throwing up blood, which.
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Didn't sound right at all. And I guess TMZ is
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located or got their hands on a partial nine one
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one call.
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So I think it's too early to kind of speculate
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on what caused this. But when a forty one year
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old man dies it's not going to be of natural causes,
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you know, like Kobe Bryant's helicopter crash not a natural cause.
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Was a helicopter tampered with? I don't think so. I
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know that he had been in a lawsuit and won
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the lawsuit against Big Pharma.
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Would they be motivated to tamper with the helicopter. I
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don't know. Maybe they're you know, they're.
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They're they're not the most noble of people that work
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in that industry. But according to the NTSB, there was
447
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nothing wrong with the helicopter. I personally think in that instance,
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the helicopter pilot really enjoyed the cachet of flying Kobe
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and his family around and knowing that the weather was
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he shouldn't be flying in that kind of inclement weather,
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and decided to do it anyways because he felt the
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pressure it didn't want to tell Kobe no. Because especially
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in Hollywood, in the entertainment business and then businesses adjacent
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to the entertainment business, and I kind of sometimes lump
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sports in there too, because you're dealing with celebrity at
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this point. And I don't know if you know about this,
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but you know, big Hollywood stars and also you know,
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celebrity athletes are surrounded by yes people.
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They don't really hear know every once in a while.
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And of course I'm being sarcastic about this, and I
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think this is one of those instances where the pilot
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knew that he shouldn't but was just being a yes man,
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and unfortunately it had a catastrophic result.
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Now, Kyle Bush, he was involved in a lawsuit that
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it had to do with.
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Insurance, had to do with life insurance and overpaying on premiums,
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and I guess in February of this year there was
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a settlement reach between his estate or his family and
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the company, the insurance provider, for an undisclosed amount.
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Is that motivation to kill somebody? I wouldn't think so.
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So I'm gonna but I can't discount that.
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You know, I'm looking at this from an investigator of perspective,
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and even though you know I have nothing to do
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with the investigation, I just like to put myself in
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that position so.
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You can't rule them out.
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Now, this new revelation about being becoming overheated and throwing
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up blood.
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That got the hairs on my neck.
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To stand up a little bit because we're hearing about huntavirus.
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We're hearing about a new Ebola outbreak and Democratic Republic.
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Of Congo, which anytime anything bad.
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00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.519
Happens in the Democratic Republic of Congo, I kind of
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just sort of blow it off because I was arrested there,
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and my sound guy calls it a kidnapping because he
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was arrested alongside me.
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So I really don't have that pleasant of a memory
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of DRC. And so when the Ebola outbreak happened, I
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was like, eh, whatever, you know.
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I feel sorry for the people to get because it's
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a very horrible way to die. And Ebola and Marburg virus,
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all these are hemorrhagic fevers, and to me, in that
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description sounded and it sounded to me like, you know,
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signs of hemorrhagic fever Ebola. There's a great book called
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The Hot Zone written by Richard Preston that I suggest
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you if you want to read about viruses in Ebola outbreaks,
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that would be the one.
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It also goes into HIV and AIDS.
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Then it talks about the rested monkeys and how we
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almost had an Ebola.
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Outbreak in the United States when these Ebola monkeys were
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being you know, we're found in a laboratory in Reston, Virginia. Anyway,
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it's a really good book. I enjoyed it quite a bit,
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and I read that years ago.
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It's probably been thirty thirty five years ago since I
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00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.839
first read that book. But what I learned with my
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takeaway from it was with ebola and marburg or hemorrhagic fevers,
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00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.519
and the incubation process of the Ebola virus, let's say,
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is very quick, Whereas, like.
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With COVID, you could be exposed to it and a
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few days.
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Later you would develop a running nose, cold, fever and
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everything else that came along with it. Where And you
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could be a carrier of it and not have any
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00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.599
symptoms yourself, but then give it to somebody else's. Ebola
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is totally not like that. If you are exposed to
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the virus on let's say a Sunday, by Thursday, you're dead.
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And what happens to you is you get a lot
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of nausea, a lot of fatigue.
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But with the hemorrhagic side of the fever, your internal organs,
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your heart, your liver, your kidneys, they all start to liquefy.
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It's a very painful way to die.
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You start coughing up blood and you just you die
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within five or six days of contractiveness.
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And I'm not saying Kyle Busch had ebola.
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Or marburing virus or any kind of hemorrhagic fever, but
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that's what jumped into my head when I first heard
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about this nine one one call and the symptoms that
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he was showing at that time.
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When he was in the race simulator. So you know,
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I would I don't think that there's going to be
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an Ebola outbreak or even a Marber outbreak.
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You know, I think the last Marburg outbreak was in
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nineteen seventy six and Marberg, Germany, therefore the name of it.
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00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.200
It could be something like it. Yeah, it could be.
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Anything's possible.
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But what I know for certain is a forty one
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00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.519
year old, healthy professional athlete just doesn't die. There's gonna
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00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.680
be all kinds of extenuating factors that went into this,
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and hopefully we'll get the truth.
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You know, I look back to.
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The Damar Hamlin incident, and I know a lot of
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00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.839
people picked up on the debate about was it the
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COVID vaccine or.
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00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.000
Was it the hit that he took? And for those
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00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.119
who forget Damar Hamlin.
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00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.920
He was a defensive player for the Buffalo Bills and
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00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.519
on a Monday night game, he collapsed in the middle
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of the field and CPR.
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Was performed on him to save his life. And of
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course we were told that the.
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Hit that he took the collision caused his heart to stop.
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But there were people like myself who watched the collision
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over and over again. It's like, there's no way he
555
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.400
wasn't hit that hard to justify his heart stopping. And
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00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.119
then you had other medical professionals, you know, chiming in, well,
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it's the angle.
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00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.039
It doesn't necessarily have to be the force of the hit,
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the blunt trauma.
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And when I started hearing people's backpedal, the explanation instead
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of the.
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First explanation was he got hit so hard that his
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heart stopped.
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00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.199
Okay, I could believe that happening, because you hear about
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00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.559
it when people are wearing body armor and get shot.
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00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.599
That blunt force trauma sometimes causes people's hearts to stop
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00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
and they'll die from.
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00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.320
Not having their heart, you know, getting restarted. That sounds plausible,
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00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.639
But then when you watch the hit, it doesn't seem.
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00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.559
Like a hit that would cause that and so that
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00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.599
you spawned on the alternative narrative that well, it just
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00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:46.840
it depends on the angle.
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You know, it was the right angle. The force may
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have not been that hard or seemingly that hard, but
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it was the angle.
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It's like, oh, okay, so now you're trying to convince
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00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.280
me of something of a reason other than the initial
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00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:04.199
one that you told me.
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00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.360
But based on the initial one that you told me.
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So it was the hit, but it was the angle,
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00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.679
not just the sheer force. Okay, So now we're backtracking
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a little bit.
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That's what's going to give me cause about give me
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pause about the final the final statement about Kyle Busch.
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00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.719
You know, I mean, we've been lied to so many
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00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.400
times about so many things by our government, by the media,
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00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.039
by guys in white coats with stethoscopes.
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By dancing nurses. You know.
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I just I don't want another lockdown or another outbreak
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of anything, because quite frankly, I don't think I can handle.
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Any more TikTok videos, dancing nurses.
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00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.960
That was like one of the worst parts about cod
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00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.320
for me COVID was I didn't I hated it because
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00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.639
everything was locked down. And when I particularly hated about
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it was the fact that I saw fellow Americans just
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00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.480
go okay, yeah, we're in where I thought the American
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00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.800
spirit was still alive, and people are gonna be like,
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00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.760
fuck this shit, We're not shutting down. We're gonna carry
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00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.480
on with our lives. We're Americans. We don't back down
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to jack shit. And the next thing I know, it's.
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00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.960
Like the yes, the half next joy of the cut agains.
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00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.239
Yes, they're having a barbecue at their backyard and there's
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more than five people there.
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00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.320
Though could you sit it's the black car over it
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break up their barbecue. I couldn't believe that Americans turned
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00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.480
into that. It was just it was mind numbing to me.
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00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.559
So I'm very hesitant about what's gonna happen the next time.
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00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.519
If there is like an e bowl up right, holy smokes,
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00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.239
If it isn't, if it is hemorrhagic fever like that
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00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:02.840
where the mortality is fifty percent per higher, then yeah,
611
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:03.760
you'll probably.
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00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:09.719
See me, you know, being locked down. But I just
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00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.360
I still can't.
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00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.039
Really get over that Kyle Bush is dead, especially seeing
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00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.719
him participating here driving you.
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Know, just under a week ago.
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It's just it's really hard for me to wrap my
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00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.000
head around. It was kind of the same way, the
619
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.079
same feeling that I had. The first time that I
620
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.800
had ever felt anything like that with the professional athlete
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would have to be Thurman Munson.
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00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.559
And when I was a kid, and I remember seeing
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the newspaper, and I was growing up in Florida, so
624
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.280
we didn't get very many baseball games during the week.
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00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.079
You know, occasionally we get, like, you know, the Saturday
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00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.480
night game, and then of course, you know, they had
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00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.719
Monday Night Baseball. So I was familiar with who Thurman
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00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.800
Munson was because at least with Monday Night Baseball, there
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was a lot of times that you would get a
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00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.320
New York Yankees game. And I remember looking at the
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00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.760
front page of the Naples Daily News and seeing the
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crashed airplane and going, holy crap, I can't believe he's dead.
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And it was the first time that.
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00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.519
I had dealt with the death of somebody who I
635
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.159
didn't know, but it affected me, and it affected me
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00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.239
just because.
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I had seen him on TV. I didn't know Thurman Munson.
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00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.519
I'd never had an interaction with him, but I felt like,
639
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.679
you know, I was aware of who he was, and
640
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.880
I knew that he was a human being and that's
641
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.960
a lot different than hearing about.
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00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.760
Somebody who dies that you have no frame of reference for.
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00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.559
So you could hear, you know, back then, if you
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heard that, I don't know who would be a good example.
645
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.639
But if you never saw a video of them, you
646
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.719
just saw pictures of him, it was like, eh, you know,
647
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.639
kind of like when you read the Bible. At least
648
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.840
for me, it's like I never really understood what Jerusalem
649
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.920
was was, or just like the layout, because in Catholic
650
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.079
school they never did really did a good job about
651
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:11.079
putting things in perspective of like showing you how life
652
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.159
was in the times of Jesus, so you really did
653
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.719
At least for myself, I didn't have any sort of
654
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.440
baseline to.
655
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.079
Imagine what was going on in the stories that I
656
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.400
was being told. I just knew that Lepers scared the
657
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.760
shit out of me. Other than that, it was like,
658
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:31.880
all right, these are just people, and this, you know,
659
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.719
is a fun story. But I had no frame of
660
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.679
reference for it. And so for me with Thurman Munson,
661
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:39.119
there was a.
662
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.480
Frame of reference, and I just remember kind of walking
663
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.320
around going, wow, this is weird. I can't you know,
664
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.719
I don't know how to really deal with this, but
665
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.920
you know that his death was a little bit different
666
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.159
where it was a plane crash and it's like very
667
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:56.840
cutting your eye.
668
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.840
He was doing touch and goes in Akron, Ohio and crashed,
669
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.079
so tragic. Same thing with Kyle Busch. I feel really
670
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.159
bad for he and his family, and I hope we
671
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:11.199
get to the bottom of it.
672
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:18.440
All right, last, but not least, and I mentioned it
673
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.159
several times now to film.
674
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.159
To Live in Die In La.
675
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.480
Most people are familiar with William Friedkin, and you're familiar
676
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.119
with him because.
677
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.239
He's won five Academy Awards. He was a director of
678
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:40.840
The Exorcist in the French Connection, That's what most people
679
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:42.280
know about William's career.
680
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.519
That's at least what I knew about William's career. It
681
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.920
wasn't until recently, I would say two months ago.
682
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.280
I watched to Live in Die In La and was
683
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:54.199
blown away by it.
684
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.760
So I started doing a little bit more research into
685
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:04.840
William Freakin and and other than like I said, the
686
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:06.199
extra system French Connection.
687
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.199
This is kind of a funny story. So back in
688
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.159
let's say twenty seventeen, I started going gray in my
689
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.039
beard and I was like, all right, my Vanity's gotten
690
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.400
the best of me. So I'm gonna dye my beard, right.
691
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.719
So I go to the store, buy the products and everything,
692
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.519
put it in my beard in the way that.
693
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.840
You know, I had my beard cropped. It was very
694
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.159
in the length of it was very reminiscent of Randy
695
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.199
the Macho Man savage, and so I threw on a
696
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.719
cowboy hat and.
697
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.679
I look like, you know, the TMU bea version of
698
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.079
the Macho Man, just a little less fringe.
699
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:52.920
What I didn't realize is when it comes to paradise,
700
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.880
there's a specific ingredient in it, and I can't think
701
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.840
of the name of it, but it's very common for
702
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.360
people to be allergic to I want to say it's
703
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:06.840
I can't even come up with the name of it
704
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:11.519
right now. Anyways, So I tell my wife, you're not
705
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.800
going to believe what's going on. My face is burning.
706
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.400
And then a couple of days later, you know, there's
707
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.519
puss coming out of the hair in my beard. So
708
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.159
I shave off my beard. She's like, you got to
709
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.280
go see a dermatologist. She gives me the name of
710
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:29.199
her dermatologist. I show up there and while I'm in
711
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.559
there filling out my paperwork. I'd go back up to
712
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.199
the receptionist to drop it off and there's an older
713
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.480
guy standing there and it's William Friedkin and I look
714
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.840
at him. He looks at me and he has this
715
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.360
look on his face of I know that you know
716
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.360
that you know who I am. And I was like,
717
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.280
mister Freedkin. He's like, you got it. And I was like,
718
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.320
let me tell you.
719
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.480
You know, it's a pleasure to meet. My name's Tom Cunningham.
720
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.360
And he's like, nice to meet you. I said, I'm,
721
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.000
you know, a big fan of your work. And at
722
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.840
the time I'd only known The Exorcist in the French connection.
723
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.119
I was like, I'm sure you've heard this a million times,
724
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.440
but the Exorcist really.
725
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.280
Scared the crap on of me. He's like, you're right,
726
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.719
I have heard that a million times. He was a
727
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.880
very nice guy. I wish I would have had I
728
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:31.960
wish I would have known. Now, what how do you get?
729
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.039
What's that? How do you say that? I wish I
730
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.159
would have known then what I don't now? There there
731
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:38.360
you go.
732
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.199
My brain sometime fires a little bit differently than it should,
733
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.440
and I just wish I would have been a little
734
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.280
bit more familiar with his work, and then I went
735
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.280
in to see the dermatologist and I had burnt.
736
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.840
You know, most of my face from here down to
737
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.440
here down to my neck. It was a mess. It
738
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.559
looked like second degree burns on my face. And still
739
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.159
to this day, I still have a beard because I
740
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:11.960
still have scarage, scarage, my scars from that ill fated
741
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:13.480
beard dying escapade.
742
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.800
Anyways, So getting back to William Freakin, or as his
743
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.519
friends call him Bill or Billy, I started watching.
744
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.400
His films and then did a deep dive into his
745
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.239
career and what I had come up with. And I
746
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.039
also downloaded his audio book. This is a good one.
747
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.760
It's called The Freaking Freakin Connection.
748
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.559
And I'm in the first couple of chapters of the book,
749
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.760
and so William's talking about, you know, how he got
750
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.519
into the business, which is very similar to the way
751
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.920
that I got into the business. Where he didn't know
752
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.800
what he wanted to do as far as a career goes,
753
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.119
and he was really young, and he got a job
754
00:44:59.199 --> 00:44:59.400
at a.
755
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:00.960
TV state the mailroom.
756
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.760
I knew I wanted to work in television or film somehow,
757
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.159
so I got a job at a TV station, just
758
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:11.360
not in the mail room. I went into the studio
759
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.119
and became a studio camera operator, where William went from
760
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.639
the mail room to being a floor director to all
761
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.840
the live shows.
762
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.400
That they were doing at WGN at the time.
763
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:29.920
So his first, the first project he ever did was
764
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:37.239
a documentary called The People Versus Paul Crump. And Paul
765
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.119
Crump was a death row inmate in Illinois who was
766
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.280
implicated in a robbery where somebody had died in the robbery,
767
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.440
and I guess WGN was.
768
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.280
Covering it as a news story and.
769
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.960
Freak getting it, read about it in the newspaper and
770
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.880
got a hold of the main players and talked to
771
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.880
the main players, you know, the Paul Crump, the prosecuting
772
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.639
attorney and the detectives, everybody involved in the case. And
773
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.039
then he went to somebody at WGN and said, hey,
774
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.639
you know, I'd like to do a documentary or I'd
775
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.320
like to do a story about Paul Crump. And they're like, okay, well,
776
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.599
here's you know six grand I think he went privately
777
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:23.159
to do it.
778
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:25.760
Anyways, he came up with the budget for it.
779
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.519
WGN let him use the equipment, and he had a cameraman,
780
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.280
Bill something or other, and.
781
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:34.519
They did the documentary.
782
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.000
Documentary is fantastic.
783
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.440
The first couple of minutes of it, you could really
784
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.719
tell where William Freed can.
785
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.119
The influence or I don't know if you're born with
786
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.559
it or how it happened, because the camera guy, you know,
787
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.480
shot everything, but you could definitely tell William had taken
788
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:59.719
the shots from the opening sequence to that and implement it,
789
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.679
implemented those shots in every production that he's ever had,
790
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.480
and it was really revealing to me that something that
791
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.039
he did so long ago, that it would be something
792
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.639
that he would go back to with each subsequent feature.
793
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:18.159
Film that he did. So anyways, he does this film.
794
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:25.519
Paul Crump, the governor of Illinois, sees this documentary and
795
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.360
commutes crumpsons and so Crump is.
796
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.800
Later released out of prison, but has a really.
797
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:36.360
Bad go of it in life and alcoholism, mental illness,
798
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.599
and ends up dying of cancer. I think in like
799
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:48.480
two thousand or nineteen ninety three, maybe two It doesn't matter,
800
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:51.559
Paul Krump is dead. But what I'm saying to you
801
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.679
is from.
802
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.800
That moment on, you can tell in a lot of William.
803
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.920
Friedkin's films that he uses the technique of filmmaking where
804
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.079
it's very handheld.
805
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.480
A lot of cinema varitates to it. The camera's moving
806
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.119
as a dialogue is.
807
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:12.119
Happening, and you feel like you're not watching a feature film,
808
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:17.079
you're watching actual reality happen. Whereas a lot of times
809
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.960
when you're watching a film, you have nicely composed shots
810
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.800
and it goes from shot to shot to shot, whereas
811
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:32.960
with's freaking, the camera almost becomes the audience and you're
812
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.400
in the scene with everybody, and you're moving around as
813
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.440
you would, you know, if you were in a room
814
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.000
with a group of people. That's the idea of the
815
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.119
whole fluid style of cinema Verite is to get the
816
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.920
audience to feel that you're a part of the scene
817
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:55.519
of what's going on. And until I started studying his films,
818
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.400
I didn't realize but that was the same techniques that
819
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:00.519
I was using.
820
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.079
And my colleagues were using in reality television. You know,
821
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.400
on shows like Cops. When you watch Cops, the whole.
822
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.559
Goal for us when we're filming Cops, and especially for myself,
823
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.039
I'll say this because I'm the only one that's articulated
824
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.199
my whole goal when I was working on that show
825
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.280
as a camera operator, was to.
826
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.559
Make the audience feel like they were the ones sitting
827
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.079
in the passenger siver of the car.
828
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:32.000
The camera just became an extension of my eyeball and
829
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.840
it was a vehicle for somebody sitting at.
830
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.519
Home to feel like this. They were in there, they
831
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.679
were in the action. And so every time that you know,
832
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.239
we'd get out of the car, we'd film a scene.
833
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.639
And with Verite, Verite is a lot different than most
834
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:53.280
of productions because the motivation of the camera lends is
835
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:54.280
based solely on.
836
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.199
The dialogue or the sounds that are happening.
837
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.880
So all your camera moves are dictated by people's speech
838
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.239
patterns and by different sounds that you hear.
839
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.320
That are going on in the periphial that help you
840
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.159
advance that story. So let me let me explain it
841
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.679
this way. You're filming a scene with two people. A
842
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:28.719
conversation has a natural momentum to it, It hasural, uh
843
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.599
sort of rhythmic beats to it.
844
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.079
And as a camera as a Verite camera operator, you
845
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:41.840
find yourself working within those sort of musical beats of
846
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:46.280
the conversation. And so instead of following a conversation where
847
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.079
you know you're ping pong back and forth between what's
848
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.119
being said. You're listening to what's being said, and then
849
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.239
you're moving the camera in the direction.
850
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.119
So, for example, if you have.
851
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.239
A police officer officer is talking to a suspect, and
852
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.039
the police officer says.
853
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:05.920
Do you have a driver's license on you?
854
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.079
I know what's coming, and so what I might do is,
855
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.360
in the middle of the officer saying do you have
856
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.320
a driver's license on you, I'll slowly move the camera
857
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.159
to the person because I know it's going to be
858
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.320
a yes no question, And if the person is lying,
859
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:23.480
there are going to be certain tells that they have
860
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.800
in their faces that are going to let the audience
861
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:32.280
knows subconsciously that this person is being less than truthful,
862
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.480
and a lot of times that's what the officers pick
863
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:40.880
up on too. So in filming this style, oftentimes you
864
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:45.800
rely on what's not being set as motivation to move.
865
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.840
The lens as opposed to what's being set.
866
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.239
I know that sounds like I'm contradict addicting what I
867
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.199
said in the beginning, but trust me, it all makes
868
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.280
sense if you go go back, if you have a chance,
869
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.039
look at old episodes of cops, and you'll know not
870
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.039
that the camera lens always moves on the motivation of
871
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.159
what's being said, So as.
872
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.599
A camera operator.
873
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.679
At that time, you're always count You're constantly looking at
874
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:19.480
life three steps ahead of where you think life is going.
875
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.320
I know that sounds really weird.
876
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.800
But trust me, it works because whatever moment that you're
877
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.199
living in with your lens, you have to think, Okay,
878
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.199
the progression of this conversation and where it's going to
879
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.440
be going, where is it likely to be three levels
880
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:42.760
from now, And so you're constantly preparing yourself and trying
881
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.440
to connect the dots in a way.
882
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.920
That you won't be asleep when you get to that
883
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.280
third spot, and then you count three more levels from
884
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:54.639
where you're at at that point.
885
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.440
I know I'm confusing a lot of you because I'm
886
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:02.840
confusing myself, But the bottom line is there's a rhythm
887
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.360
to pure veritae, and in reality television we had it,
888
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.360
and with scripted feature films freaking had it too. And
889
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that was something that I wish that I had the
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opportunity to talk to him about because the way that
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he uses that is so brilliant in telling his stories.
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Because you forget a lot of times you watch films
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and you forget that what you're watching is actually.
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Scripted, and that you buy into it.
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He had such a great way of drawing people in,
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even more just because of the camera moves and the
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grittiness that he used, and that.
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Really comes across in I think probably.
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My favorite of William Freakin's movies is one I just
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watched a couple of weeks ago called Sorcerer.
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And it has nothing to do with the occult. It
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has nothing to do with any haunting or anything like that.
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It has to do.
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Here's the plot of the movie. You've got four people
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from different parts of the world. You've got a small
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timehood was played.
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By Roy Scheider in New Jersey.
908
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You've got a Palestinian terrorist who blows up part of
909
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.639
one of the walls in Jerusalem. You have a corrupt
910
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:29.079
businessman from Paris who's facing prison time.
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00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.000
And then you have a hit man.
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00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:37.480
From Mexico who murders somebody and has to get out
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of the country. Will all four of these people end
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up in a South American village.
915
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:46.079
In this village is beyond poor. I've been to a
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00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.760
lot of poor places in my career, and what I felt.
917
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.719
In one of the poorest and one of the most
918
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.480
pathetic places I've ever been is a refugee camp in Congo,
919
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:01.199
and it's just the most desperate attus place that you'll
920
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:02.800
ever see in your entire life.
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And while filming in there, it was hard to.
922
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Capture that desperation, you know, it just it looks like
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00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.519
you know, UNICEF commercials and this and that.
924
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But Freaking was able to pull.
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That desperation out and put it onto screen where you
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can feel it.
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You're like, man, there is no way this is a
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movie set. This is real.
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And to his credit, Freaking all his background actors or
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all people from that environment.
931
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He actually, you know, in this film did shoot in
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a slum.
933
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.039
He shot in the city that was actually there and
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00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.280
that desperate and a lot of his cast and crew
935
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.679
ended up getting sick just because of the amount of
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00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:54.199
time and the exposure to like giardia and other kind
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00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:55.760
of tropical diseases.
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They filmed it a lot of it in dom in Republic, Mexico,
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in New Jersey, but the crew got sick the most,
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I believe, in a Dominican Republic. But getting back to
941
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.440
the crew part of it, I know, even the whole
942
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.880
year's you know, in the years that we're living in
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00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.920
risk management and mitigating risk. I get it.
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But what I found in my career the times that
945
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.360
I have been pushed physically beyond the limitations that I
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00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.960
thought I had that came.
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00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.239
Across on screen.
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And I've come up with the term where I call
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00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.320
myself when it comes when it came to filming things,
950
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.679
a chaotic impath EmPATH and being.
951
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.199
A chaotic impact means that you thrive.
952
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.000
In chaos, but you also have the empathy to absorb
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00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.039
the energy of the people that you're filming.
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00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.920
Whether it's a cop talking to a junkie, or a
955
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.880
thief or a murderer, whether it's a Green Beret talking
956
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.880
with an I'll tier a Taliban person. I can put myself.
957
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.599
I can I draw, almost like an energy vampire. I
958
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.639
can draw off the energy of those people.
959
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.400
I'm not really drawing energy, I'm feeling their energy. Whatever
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00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:21.400
they're putting out.
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00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:25.280
Into the world, I'm absorbing as an EmPATH, and that
962
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:30.480
absorption is an EmPATH helps me. That allows me to
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00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:35.000
be able to tell that story from more of an
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00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.199
intimate setting than somebody just holding a camera.
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00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.679
And ping pong back and forth on the dialogue that's
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00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:43.320
you know, playing out in front of me.
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00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:51.440
And being able to have that, you know, being able
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00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:57.039
to make yourself receptive to that energy also comes in
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00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.599
the scripted world, and you can see it in Sorcerer
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00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:05.639
in particular. Whoever the camera operator was even though it
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00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.840
wasn't reality happening in front of him, but the acting
972
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.039
in the dialogue was so compelling that he was filming
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00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:18.159
it as if it was actually, you know, that reality
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00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.920
was unfolding in front of him, and you feel that
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00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.559
as an audience member watching this film.
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00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.079
You it's like.
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00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.480
You know that you're watching a movie, but in this
978
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:37.239
particular movie, you feel like a documentary crew just stumbled
979
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.159
upon these people out in the middle of the jungle
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00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.239
and started filming them. All right, I know I went
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00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.039
off on a tangent there, So let me get back
982
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.320
to the plot of it. So you have these four guys,
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they make they make their weary down to the South
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00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:50.559
American village.
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00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:55.320
There's this oil platform in the middle.
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00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.679
Of the jungle that blows up and the only way
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00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.800
to cap it is through dynamite. The owners of the
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00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:01.960
oil company.
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00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.960
Find that there's a stash of dynamite.
990
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.760
But the problem with the dynamite is it's starting to
991
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:12.880
leak metro glycerin and it's very dicey for them to
992
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:14.639
transport it across the jungle.
993
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:21.840
So the oil company goes into this you know, horribly you.
994
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:28.679
Know raveitously depressed town and wants volunteers to drive two
995
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.480
trucks filled with this deteriorating.
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00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.360
Dynamite to get it to the oil field so they
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00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:38.800
can cap the oil well. So of course the selection
998
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.559
is made. They put the everybody through the paces, just
999
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.400
crying out, and it's our four main characters who.
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00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.480
End up getting the job to take the dynamite through
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00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:52.239
the through the jungle. What else is really impressive about
1002
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.519
this film is in the beginning is the total setup
1003
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:56.480
for our characters.
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00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.400
But during the film there's no character development.
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00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.320
You don't know any backstories about any of these people
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01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.719
other than what was laid out from you in the beginning.
1007
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.519
But that part doesn't matter because you're so.
1008
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.239
Invested in the then and now of what they're doing
1009
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.280
that their backstory doesn't matter.
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01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.840
You can kind of get a glimpse of their personality
1011
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:25.679
through the scenes that they're playing in and going back
1012
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.280
to the beginning of the movie, as.
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01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:32.760
Their personality sort of developed, not their characters, but their personalities.
1014
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.280
You start getting a clearer window on.
1015
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.719
What may have led them to get to the point
1016
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:44.039
where they assassinated somebody, they blew up, you know, part
1017
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:50.320
of the wall in Jerusalem, why there was a you know,
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01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.760
business fraud, what led you know, the Roy Scheider character
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01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.159
to being a wheelman and a robbery gang.
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01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.159
So you get glimpses of that. And then at the
1021
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.760
end of the film, the end of the film really
1022
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:06.119
has a surprise.
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01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:07.719
Ending to it, and I'm not going to give it away.
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01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:12.159
I'm just gonna highly recommend, you know, taking the.
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01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:17.440
Time going to Amazon and I believe it's free and
1026
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:19.159
having a watch of Sorcerer.
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01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.920
And the reason why one of the main reason why
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01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.920
Sorcerer didn't do very well one was the title.
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01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:29.280
Oh the reason why it has the title of Sorcerer
1030
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.920
is that's what the Roy Scheider character named his truck.
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01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.760
It has nothing to do with any kind of magic
1032
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:36.599
or anything like that.
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01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.639
So I saw, you know, interviews with William Friedkin saying
1034
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.960
he kind of regrets naming it that, but he saw
1035
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.039
that truck, you know, that word written on the side
1036
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.000
of a truck in the Philippines as he was researching
1037
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.480
the movie, he realized that, you know, truck drivers would
1038
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.880
always named their trucks, just as you know, captains of
1039
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.679
boats name their boats, and he came up with Sorcerer
1040
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.199
and it stuck. But he also had the stigma of
1041
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.000
the Exorcist, so people were like, oh, it's the Exorcist guy,
1042
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:11.679
he's got another devil movie coming out, So a lot
1043
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:15.079
of people weren't into it. And plus this movie came
1044
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.679
on the heels of Star Wars and everybody was you know,
1045
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:21.639
total Star Wars for the entire you know, summer of
1046
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:25.039
nineteen seventy seven, carrying on into.
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01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:27.960
Excuse me where we are now.
1048
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.519
So even though it was panned, and it wasn't panned
1049
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.519
by critics, critics liked it, but it was a box
1050
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:39.239
office flop. So I would say do yourself a favor.
1051
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.480
Check out Sorcerer, and also on YouTube, if you want
1052
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:48.119
to check it out, check out the People Versus Paul Crump.
1053
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:53.360
It's a really, really, really good documentary and that's free
1054
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:58.519
as well. Thanks for thanks for clicking on and hearing
1055
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.719
what I have to say. Sorry went a little bit
1056
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.440
longer longer today, but that's what happens when I let
1057
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:08.719
my kind of spastic brain get the best of me.
1058
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:11.880
If you want to follow me on social media, I'm
1059
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:16.159
on x at Run the World Tom, And you can
1060
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:17.280
also find.
1061
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:23.559
My substack, Dad's Accidental Education on substack. And I also
1062
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.519
appear on a sports show Tuesdays and Thursdays with my
1063
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.800
good buddy Drew Birkwist. It's called Balls and Banter and
1064
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.360
that can be seen at three pm live Tuesdays and
1065
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:42.679
Thursdays on Drew Burkwist Rumble in YouTube channels, or if
1066
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:44.960
you can't catch the live show, check.
1067
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.400
It out wherever you download all your podcasts. All right,
1068
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:49.960
we'll see you next week.
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Spending the globe from the four corners of the world,
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traveling the ollow while entertaining millions in secrecy. These are
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01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:19.519
lessons learned through not so average experiences from a life
1072
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:22.960
spent creative reality television.
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This is accidental
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Education with your guys, Doctor Tom Cunning have esquire am
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I Turdds