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Speaker 1: Everyone, it's Chastain Huey backstage at Aftershock with Johnny from Highly Suspect.
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Speaker 2: What's happening?
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Speaker 1: And his sweet baby girl, Ellie. She is just the sweetest. We just, we were able to catch your set. We literally took off running because normally we're. back here all day and we don't get to see anyone but we heard you guys we were like run so we got thank you so much we got to see you i was so stoked and we got to see you i got to see you leaned over and like pet for a minute and i was like oh that's yeah it's a.
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Speaker 3: Cool full circle moment because uh when she was a puppy she was only a few months old and it was our first aftershock and it was her first big festival she was on stage with me oh my god so it's cool to have her.
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Speaker 1: Back Okay, so it's funny that you bring that up. So every year at Aftershock, I have, like, a band that sticks out to me, and you guys were my band that year. Will you remind me, was that 2015 or 2016? You're asking the wrong guy.
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember what shoes I wore last week. I know.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 4: I feel you.
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Speaker 1: But I remember you guys were the standout, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm obsessed with this band.
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Speaker 4: I love you guys.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: It's been a journey to.
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Speaker 1: Be a fan of yours and to see where you've come from and everything you've gone through, and now.
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Speaker 4: you looked so joyful on that stage.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Like you just look like your spirit opened up and that crowd was soaking.
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Speaker 4: It up and it just was, it was a moment.
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Speaker 2: I'm an old man now. Oh, right. I'm less like upset with things that don't really, aren't really in my control.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That's understandable.
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Speaker 5: So how was it for you? I guess you've done so many aftershocks now. What in your mind or definition is what makes like a truly memorable performance at aftershock?
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Speaker 2: Like what stands out?
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Speaker 5: You're like, we killed it today.
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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Like, what do you look for? It's always the crowd surface for me.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Cause once somebody's up, I can see there's.
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Speaker 2: A sea of people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Today we had wheelchair guy. Shout out to wheelchair. That was memorable.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, uh, I'm sweating my ass off right now. I mean, how do you do your best to stay cool?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't. I don't. It's just miserably hot out here, you know? It is what it is.
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Speaker 5: You're a true pro.
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Speaker 2: You just own it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, own it, but don't complain about it.
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Speaker 2: It is what it is. It's part of it. Okay, I understand.
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Speaker 1: When you're on stage, I feel like you look so comfortable.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been on radio for 25 years. Same with him. We've seen a lot of bands. We've talked to a lot of bands.
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Speaker 1: And that's not always the case. And it's really cool to see. Would you say you feel most yourself on stage?
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Speaker 4: Most at home?
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Speaker 2: I'm glad it looks that way.
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 2: Because I don't.
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Speaker 5: Really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always a challenge. You always kind of have a little bit of imposter syndrome. Especially at a festival, you're going to see people that maybe they've never seen you before.
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Speaker 2: And they're kind of giving you a chance.
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Speaker 4: They're literally out there judging you.
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Speaker 5: The body language.
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Speaker 2: So it's like you don't really know.
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Speaker 2: If they like you or not.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it's definitely, like, nerve-wracking. Well, I'm glad I look comfortable.
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Speaker 4: You look super comfortable. You look like I was born to be here. Like, this is what I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I always feel awkward, so.
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Speaker 1: So, you pull it off. A couple years ago, As Above, So Below. Love that album.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I was recently in the catacombs in Paris.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And As Above, So Below is written in the catacombs. It's also written in every cemetery and, like, 90% of the graves in Paris.
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Speaker 2: Sure is.
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Speaker 4: Which I'm sure is the case all over the world.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Tell me do you have a connection?
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Speaker 2: I sure do and uh Respectfully, I just that's for me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that yeah, dude, I Yep, I totally get it. Have you been in the catacombs?
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Speaker 2: I have not.
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Speaker 4: You haven't.
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Speaker 2: You got to.
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Speaker 4: You got to. Queens of the Stone Age recorded down there.
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Speaker 2: They sure did.
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Speaker 4: It was epic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how you get equipment down there. I don't know how that works.
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Speaker 2: You know, they did it, so I would never want it.
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: It's been done.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 4: It's been done.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, on that note, what is something like that that you would love to do that maybe hasn't been done or hasn't been done in the way that maybe.
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Speaker 4: You would do it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I would really like to go to the North Pole while you still can stand on it.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Right.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, that would probably be difficult to like get a permit for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: That could be cool. Like just fucking parkas and stuff.
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Speaker 4: That would be pretty amazing. Pretty epic. I mean, Metallica did Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good to see.
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, it's possible.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other side of the world. Yeah, no, you're good.
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Speaker 5: You're good.
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Speaker 2: It's totally possible.
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Speaker 4: Different direction.
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Speaker 2: You can go play with Santa Claus. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: Put a little Santa hat, a little Mrs. Claus hat on Ellie. She'll be good to go. Might be a little cold, but that's okay.
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Speaker 2: She'll be all right.
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Speaker 5: So what's next for you guys after today, looking ahead to the end of this year and early next year?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're going to finish out this tour with Yellow Wolf. Okay. And then we might make an album.
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Speaker 4: Ooh, I was hoping you were going to say that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because it's been a couple years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's time. Are you already working on it?
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm always making music. Right.
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Speaker 4: It's always up here.
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Speaker 3: Been through some stuff this past couple years. It's been pretty difficult for me, and typically that leads to art.
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Speaker 1: That's the beautiful side of it.
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Speaker 4: That's the silver lining of it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel, you are so vulnerable, and you put your heart and soul into all of this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Does that get easier with age?
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Speaker 1: You know, you said, I'm not saying this, you said it. I'm an old man now. Do things like that get any easier?
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 4: Do they get harder?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: No. Okay. No, it's like hard.
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Speaker 4: It's like always hard.
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Speaker 2: Consistently difficult.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would just imagine like writing it in the space of you and your heart and your soul is one thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's why I don't do one every year, you know, or as often as people would like us to do because I have to write from a real place.
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Speaker 2: And it's not like every day.
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Speaker 3: Is a tragedy, you know, like I actually have a lot, but our music is kind of, about serious stuff, most of it. It's kind of my catharsis, it's my outlet. So I wait until enough shit goes wrong. I got an album worth of fucking trauma to dump on people.
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Speaker 1: Now two years have gone by, I need some more therapy, let's write an album.
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Speaker 4: I like that. You know what, that's why I connect with it the way I do. Because it's real.
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Speaker 1: And in the age of AI and whatever that ends up being, I think people are desperate.
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Speaker 3: I'm stoked about the AI because I think it's going to make artists that are analog Yeah.
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Speaker 2: More of a niche and more like, you know what I mean? It's like, go ahead, flood it with AI.
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Speaker 4: Really good way to look at it.
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Speaker 2: You have to, you know?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It could be like, meh, but it's like, whatever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's going to happen whether we like it or not. We're already in it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's enough things to be upset about already every day, so. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Why add to the list?
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Speaker 2: I think it'll just make artists that don't use AI more and more rare.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Of course. No, you're right.
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Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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Speaker 3: No, I.
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Speaker 4: Nobody's actually said.
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Speaker 5: Said that, that we talked to so far.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
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Speaker 5: Perspective and hopefully yeah that makes people step up their game and it's like you want the real work yeah you gotta do your thing to get stand out more so I'm curious though when you're writing how do you like collect your thoughts put it down do you like it's in your phone on a notepad or you know how do you kind of keep track of like what you want to get into or talk about for your songs.
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Speaker 3: Yes I've got the old school pen and paper right next to my bed and as well as my phone, and it's typically like I'll wake up in the middle of the night and just be like, it's very rare that in the daytime I write anything. For whatever reason, it seems to be during the night I'll wake up and be like, oh, this idea happens, and I will write down prose or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's less distractions at night when your head can finally be clear.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get the meat of it down, the thought, the idea, the story of it, and then Once I pair it to the music, then it's just.
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Speaker 2: Like, all right, let's make this rhyme.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Let's take this thought, this sentiment, and make it sound cool. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love so much that you guys, I was, we were talking about this earlier, is like genre-less, like not bound by genre, I would say. I love the blues, so I live part-time in New Orleans, and I love the blues and jazz, and I love the bluesier side. When you guys kick into stuff like that, I'm like, oh, I love it so much. But, I mean, is that always been kind of a... maybe an unspoken rule in your head, like we're not gonna be bound by one thing. We're gonna do whatever the F we want. And I know that's how you live.
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I love it, but yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really important that we try not to... I mean, and we have been boxed into one thing.
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Speaker 4: Well, people do that.
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Speaker 2: Lydia, Human, great. I'm stoked those songs did so well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And so I think most people kind of expect that from us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's cool. We continue doing.
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Speaker 4: Those are great songs, but.
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Speaker 3: We continue doing stuff like that once in a while, but also, like, I like to rap. I like the blues. I like fucking reggae.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like music.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I think that most people that are... have somewhat of an IQ. If you have like an IQ above 80, you know, like.
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Speaker 3: There are some people, the loudest people are the negative ones. People are like, oh, that's not what, it's like, no, no, no. Most people do understand that they also like different types of music.
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Speaker 1: Agreed.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: So like this tour we're on right now, which is a hip hop and rock tour, people love it.
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Speaker 1: I just love the no rules of it all. I think so many of us we run a rock radio station. We're in San Francisco. And when I became the program director, there were a lot of conversations about sort of boxes.
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Speaker 4: What are boneheads? 107, seven of the bone, what our boneheads are, what they.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think some people give them enough credit because I think people are far more layered than.
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Speaker 4: Just liking most people. Classic rock, right? It's not, everybody's like, well, it's okay.
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Speaker 2: If you do just like one genre, that's fine.
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Speaker 5: But I feel like there's a lot of people we worked with above us or, or next to us, whatever. But they're always like, yeah, They only like ACDC, Van Halen, ZZ Top, and that's it.
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Speaker 4: And from this era to this era.
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Speaker 2: And that's it. You can't touch.
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Speaker 5: You can't change the timeline at all.
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Speaker 1: It's okay.
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Speaker 2: We've got to be those people. Yeah, and that's great.
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Speaker 5: But I'm like, yeah, I grew up very diverse growing up in so many different genres. And I think it's important to have an open mind and not be afraid to like what you like or check out different things. So, I mean, I'm glad you guys lead that charge. of doing that and hopefully just keep pushing the boundaries of not having a specific genre. Yeah. So it's just, yeah, it's important.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't the first, Look at Linkin Park. Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: We've had a lot of influences from people that have not followed the rules.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: We were catching your set, and as soon as you were done, the thought I had was like, I want to know what that moment feels like. I know you play like every night, but that moment of like, ah, it's done, and you walk off stage, what does that feel like?
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Speaker 4: Like a released.
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Speaker 3: I mean on short sets I'm like I want to keep going just warming.
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Speaker 1: Up understandable okay well with everything that you've been through I am honestly most excited to ask my favorite question to you this weekend because you're a deep dude and you write deep music and I have a feeling this is going to be a good answer so my favorite movie of all time is Almost Famous and we ask this question of every interview the last film in the movie the question is asked what do you love about music.
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Speaker 2: What do I love about music? The distraction from pain.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And you use it to escape that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful blessing to have it. It's fantastic. Well, thank you for helping everybody else escape from pain.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you, seriously.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I think it's been about a decade now, so I'm finally able to have this moment.
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Speaker 4: And thank you for bringing Ellie.
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Speaker 2: She's so sweet.
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Speaker 4: She's getting all the love, by the way. I know. It's you over there.
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Speaker 1: You.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Everyone, it's Chastain Huey backstage at Aftershock with Johnny from Highly Suspect.
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Speaker 2: What's happening?
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Speaker 1: And his sweet baby girl, Ellie. She is just the sweetest. We just, we were able to catch your set. We literally took off running because normally we're. back here all day and we don't get to see anyone but we heard you guys we were like run so we got thank you so much we got to see you i was so stoked and we got to see you i got to see you leaned over and like pet for a minute and i was like oh that's yeah it's a.
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Speaker 3: Cool full circle moment because uh when she was a puppy she was only a few months old and it was our first aftershock and it was her first big festival she was on stage with me oh my god so it's cool to have her.
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Speaker 1: Back Okay, so it's funny that you bring that up. So every year at Aftershock, I have, like, a band that sticks out to me, and you guys were my band that year. Will you remind me, was that 2015 or 2016? You're asking the wrong guy.
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember what shoes I wore last week. I know.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 4: I feel you.
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Speaker 1: But I remember you guys were the standout, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm obsessed with this band.
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Speaker 4: I love you guys.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: It's been a journey to.
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Speaker 1: Be a fan of yours and to see where you've come from and everything you've gone through, and now.
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Speaker 4: you looked so joyful on that stage.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Like you just look like your spirit opened up and that crowd was soaking.
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Speaker 4: It up and it just was, it was a moment.
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Speaker 2: I'm an old man now. Oh, right. I'm less like upset with things that don't really, aren't really in my control.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That's understandable.
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Speaker 5: So how was it for you? I guess you've done so many aftershocks now. What in your mind or definition is what makes like a truly memorable performance at aftershock?
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Speaker 2: Like what stands out?
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Speaker 5: You're like, we killed it today.
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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Like, what do you look for? It's always the crowd surface for me.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Cause once somebody's up, I can see there's.
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Speaker 2: A sea of people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Today we had wheelchair guy. Shout out to wheelchair. That was memorable.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, uh, I'm sweating my ass off right now. I mean, how do you do your best to stay cool?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't. I don't. It's just miserably hot out here, you know? It is what it is.
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Speaker 5: You're a true pro.
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Speaker 2: You just own it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, own it, but don't complain about it.
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Speaker 2: It is what it is. It's part of it. Okay, I understand.
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Speaker 1: When you're on stage, I feel like you look so comfortable.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been on radio for 25 years. Same with him. We've seen a lot of bands. We've talked to a lot of bands.
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Speaker 1: And that's not always the case. And it's really cool to see. Would you say you feel most yourself on stage?
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Speaker 4: Most at home?
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Speaker 2: I'm glad it looks that way.
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 2: Because I don't.
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Speaker 5: Really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always a challenge. You always kind of have a little bit of imposter syndrome. Especially at a festival, you're going to see people that maybe they've never seen you before.
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Speaker 2: And they're kind of giving you a chance.
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Speaker 4: They're literally out there judging you.
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Speaker 5: The body language.
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Speaker 2: So it's like you don't really know.
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Speaker 2: If they like you or not.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it's definitely, like, nerve-wracking. Well, I'm glad I look comfortable.
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Speaker 4: You look super comfortable. You look like I was born to be here. Like, this is what I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I always feel awkward, so.
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Speaker 1: So, you pull it off. A couple years ago, As Above, So Below. Love that album.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I was recently in the catacombs in Paris.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And As Above, So Below is written in the catacombs. It's also written in every cemetery and, like, 90% of the graves in Paris.
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Speaker 2: Sure is.
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Speaker 4: Which I'm sure is the case all over the world.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Tell me do you have a connection?
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Speaker 2: I sure do and uh Respectfully, I just that's for me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that yeah, dude, I Yep, I totally get it. Have you been in the catacombs?
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Speaker 2: I have not.
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Speaker 4: You haven't.
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Speaker 2: You got to.
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Speaker 4: You got to. Queens of the Stone Age recorded down there.
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Speaker 2: They sure did.
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Speaker 4: It was epic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how you get equipment down there. I don't know how that works.
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Speaker 2: You know, they did it, so I would never want it.
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: It's been done.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 4: It's been done.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, on that note, what is something like that that you would love to do that maybe hasn't been done or hasn't been done in the way that maybe.
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Speaker 4: You would do it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I would really like to go to the North Pole while you still can stand on it.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Right.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, that would probably be difficult to like get a permit for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: That could be cool. Like just fucking parkas and stuff.
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Speaker 4: That would be pretty amazing. Pretty epic. I mean, Metallica did Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good to see.
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, it's possible.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other side of the world. Yeah, no, you're good.
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Speaker 5: You're good.
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Speaker 2: It's totally possible.
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Speaker 4: Different direction.
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Speaker 2: You can go play with Santa Claus. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: Put a little Santa hat, a little Mrs. Claus hat on Ellie. She'll be good to go. Might be a little cold, but that's okay.
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Speaker 2: She'll be all right.
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Speaker 5: So what's next for you guys after today, looking ahead to the end of this year and early next year?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're going to finish out this tour with Yellow Wolf. Okay. And then we might make an album.
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Speaker 4: Ooh, I was hoping you were going to say that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because it's been a couple years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's time. Are you already working on it?
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm always making music. Right.
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Speaker 4: It's always up here.
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Speaker 3: Been through some stuff this past couple years. It's been pretty difficult for me, and typically that leads to art.
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Speaker 1: That's the beautiful side of it.
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Speaker 4: That's the silver lining of it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel, you are so vulnerable, and you put your heart and soul into all of this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Does that get easier with age?
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Speaker 1: You know, you said, I'm not saying this, you said it. I'm an old man now. Do things like that get any easier?
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 4: Do they get harder?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: No. Okay. No, it's like hard.
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Speaker 4: It's like always hard.
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Speaker 2: Consistently difficult.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would just imagine like writing it in the space of you and your heart and your soul is one thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's why I don't do one every year, you know, or as often as people would like us to do because I have to write from a real place.
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Speaker 2: And it's not like every day.
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Speaker 3: Is a tragedy, you know, like I actually have a lot, but our music is kind of, about serious stuff, most of it. It's kind of my catharsis, it's my outlet. So I wait until enough shit goes wrong. I got an album worth of fucking trauma to dump on people.
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Speaker 1: Now two years have gone by, I need some more therapy, let's write an album.
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Speaker 4: I like that. You know what, that's why I connect with it the way I do. Because it's real.
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Speaker 1: And in the age of AI and whatever that ends up being, I think people are desperate.
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Speaker 3: I'm stoked about the AI because I think it's going to make artists that are analog Yeah.
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Speaker 2: More of a niche and more like, you know what I mean? It's like, go ahead, flood it with AI.
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Speaker 4: Really good way to look at it.
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Speaker 2: You have to, you know?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It could be like, meh, but it's like, whatever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's going to happen whether we like it or not. We're already in it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's enough things to be upset about already every day, so. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Why add to the list?
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Speaker 2: I think it'll just make artists that don't use AI more and more rare.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Of course. No, you're right.
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Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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Speaker 3: No, I.
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Speaker 4: Nobody's actually said.
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Speaker 5: Said that, that we talked to so far.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
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Speaker 5: Perspective and hopefully yeah that makes people step up their game and it's like you want the real work yeah you gotta do your thing to get stand out more so I'm curious though when you're writing how do you like collect your thoughts put it down do you like it's in your phone on a notepad or you know how do you kind of keep track of like what you want to get into or talk about for your songs.
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Speaker 3: Yes I've got the old school pen and paper right next to my bed and as well as my phone, and it's typically like I'll wake up in the middle of the night and just be like, it's very rare that in the daytime I write anything. For whatever reason, it seems to be during the night I'll wake up and be like, oh, this idea happens, and I will write down prose or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's less distractions at night when your head can finally be clear.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get the meat of it down, the thought, the idea, the story of it, and then Once I pair it to the music, then it's just.
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Speaker 2: Like, all right, let's make this rhyme.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Let's take this thought, this sentiment, and make it sound cool. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love so much that you guys, I was, we were talking about this earlier, is like genre-less, like not bound by genre, I would say. I love the blues, so I live part-time in New Orleans, and I love the blues and jazz, and I love the bluesier side. When you guys kick into stuff like that, I'm like, oh, I love it so much. But, I mean, is that always been kind of a... maybe an unspoken rule in your head, like we're not gonna be bound by one thing. We're gonna do whatever the F we want. And I know that's how you live.
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I love it, but yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really important that we try not to... I mean, and we have been boxed into one thing.
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Speaker 4: Well, people do that.
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Speaker 2: Lydia, Human, great. I'm stoked those songs did so well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And so I think most people kind of expect that from us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's cool. We continue doing.
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Speaker 4: Those are great songs, but.
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Speaker 3: We continue doing stuff like that once in a while, but also, like, I like to rap. I like the blues. I like fucking reggae.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like music.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I think that most people that are... have somewhat of an IQ. If you have like an IQ above 80, you know, like.
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Speaker 3: There are some people, the loudest people are the negative ones. People are like, oh, that's not what, it's like, no, no, no. Most people do understand that they also like different types of music.
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Speaker 1: Agreed.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: So like this tour we're on right now, which is a hip hop and rock tour, people love it.
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Speaker 1: I just love the no rules of it all. I think so many of us we run a rock radio station. We're in San Francisco. And when I became the program director, there were a lot of conversations about sort of boxes.
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Speaker 4: What are boneheads? 107, seven of the bone, what our boneheads are, what they.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think some people give them enough credit because I think people are far more layered than.
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Speaker 4: Just liking most people. Classic rock, right? It's not, everybody's like, well, it's okay.
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Speaker 2: If you do just like one genre, that's fine.
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Speaker 5: But I feel like there's a lot of people we worked with above us or, or next to us, whatever. But they're always like, yeah, They only like ACDC, Van Halen, ZZ Top, and that's it.
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Speaker 4: And from this era to this era.
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Speaker 2: And that's it. You can't touch.
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Speaker 5: You can't change the timeline at all.
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Speaker 1: It's okay.
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Speaker 2: We've got to be those people. Yeah, and that's great.
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Speaker 5: But I'm like, yeah, I grew up very diverse growing up in so many different genres. And I think it's important to have an open mind and not be afraid to like what you like or check out different things. So, I mean, I'm glad you guys lead that charge. of doing that and hopefully just keep pushing the boundaries of not having a specific genre. Yeah. So it's just, yeah, it's important.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't the first, Look at Linkin Park. Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: We've had a lot of influences from people that have not followed the rules.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: We were catching your set, and as soon as you were done, the thought I had was like, I want to know what that moment feels like. I know you play like every night, but that moment of like, ah, it's done, and you walk off stage, what does that feel like?
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Speaker 4: Like a released.
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Speaker 3: I mean on short sets I'm like I want to keep going just warming.
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Speaker 1: Up understandable okay well with everything that you've been through I am honestly most excited to ask my favorite question to you this weekend because you're a deep dude and you write deep music and I have a feeling this is going to be a good answer so my favorite movie of all time is Almost Famous and we ask this question of every interview the last film in the movie the question is asked what do you love about music.
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Speaker 2: What do I love about music? The distraction from pain.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And you use it to escape that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful blessing to have it. It's fantastic. Well, thank you for helping everybody else escape from pain.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you, seriously.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I think it's been about a decade now, so I'm finally able to have this moment.
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Speaker 4: And thank you for bringing Ellie.
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Speaker 2: She's so sweet.
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Speaker 4: She's getting all the love, by the way. I know. It's you over there.
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Speaker 1: You.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 4: All right.
