The Technological Elixir: Black Goo, Post-Humanism, Pop-Occulture, etc, with Author Ryan Gable.

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Okay, we are live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome
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to William Ramsey Investigates. On today's show, I have a
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very special guest. He comes to us from Japan. His
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name is Ryan Gable. And if you're watching this on
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my three YouTube channels, X, Rumble, or Substack, you'll see
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one of his earliest books, something that I learned about recently.
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Full title of that book is The Technological Elixir, Black Goo, Post-Humanism, Popiculture,
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Atomic Aliens, and Invoking AI. And if you've listened to
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my show, In the past or recently, I've covered a
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lot of those topics, but we're also going to cover
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some of his later books. That book, I think he said,
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was published in 2017. You can find a lot of
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those books on Amazon. And here's another title. I don't
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have the book cover, but here's the title. Occult Arcana,
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Study of Mythology, Philosophy, Theology, Theurgy, Symbolism, Science, Western and
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Eastern Magic with a K. And you'll see his full
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name there, Ryan Daniel Gable. This is a version from 2026. And, uh,
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his other books are Liberty Shrugged and Garden of Hallucinations.
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And then his most recent one is titled Protocols of Goyim. And, uh,
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if you listen to my shows on Epstein, I did
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a bunch of shows. Epstein and his whole coterie, his
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whole group just used Goyim all the time, talked about it. And, uh,
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Then also his website, too. Let me see if I
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can pull that up real quick. I do have it,
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I think, available. And you can see, and this is
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kind of a way to contact him. And it is thesecretteachings.info.
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So you can check that out. You can see some
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of his other broadcasts. I was on his show recently.
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But he was telling me he was on shows with
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Sam Tripoli. I've been on Tripoli's Tinfoil Hat a few times.
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But he's also on Clyde Lewis. And we were talking
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about the passing of Ron Patton recently, who I was
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in contact with off and on. And so rest in peace, Ron.
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Another early death, kind of a unnerving thing happening with
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a lot of people in their 50s passing away. So
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for some people, time is short. So hopefully use your
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time well. But anyway, we're going to talk about kind
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of a lot of topics. Go back from the beginning.
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I'm familiar with some. He practices Shinto, so I learned
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that in the pre-show, and we can talk maybe more
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about Eastern mysticism, a subject I have not covered in
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great detail and am not too familiar with. But Ryan
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can talk more about these subjects. So, Ryan, welcome to
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the show.
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Thank you so much for having me, and I really
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appreciate you coming on my show recently to dissect the
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occultism and the ritualism of 9-11.
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That was a good show. Thank you. Yeah, it's still relevant,
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the 25th five-year anniversary. And there's just so much encapsulated
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in that event, the 9-11 event. And one aspect is
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that occult thing. But when you study the occult, it
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really opens up how much esotericism and esoteric thinking has
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really influenced the pop culture, the occulture. I like that word.
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Because it really is everywhere. I mean, once you kind
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of put that lens on or the so-called they live
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glasses or something, it really is ubiquitous. Would you agree
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with that? It is, yes.
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And when you put those glasses on, if you will,
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and you understand the language, which when I say the
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language or when people say the word occult, I always
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like to define the terms like it's a legal document
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or it's like a congressional bill. I think we need
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to understand exactly what we're talking about and not just
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assume people think a cult means one thing or another
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based on their religious views or just personal biases. So
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a cult just means hidden, which is probably pretty obvious
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to your audience, but a cult means hidden. And I've
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come to learn that whether it is intentional or it
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is a byproduct of like archetypes and natural symbolism, you
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find when you read old magical texts, old black books,
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for example, or if you read books on, quote, magic,
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which is really just psychology in the same way that
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alchemy is really chemistry and vice versa, and astrology and
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astronomy are connected together and all that, you'll learn that
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whether it's natural in the sense that a palm tree
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is phallic and a cave opening is ionic, So masculine
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and feminine, those are natural things, uh, that no, no
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one is putting the palm tree there because it's phallic.
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No one's digging out a cave because they're trying to,
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you know, show you that here's a, you know, a
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female reproductive, uh, uh, organ. It's just a natural symbol.
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But if you understand those things and you want to
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put yourself in harmony with nature, you can extract those
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symbols from nature and you can put them into, uh,
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the construction of temples or the construction of churches. If
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you looked at Notre Dame, for example, that's what you
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find at Notre Dame. That's what you find in a
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lot of Gothic architecture, cathedrals. You find that symbolism of
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the feminine, the masculine, and that's old stuff. But if
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you look at newer stuff like the temple in Salt
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Lake City, the temple of the Mormon temple, you have
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Temple Square, which is an important distinction. You have the
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solar and the lunar phases of the moon and the sun.
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It's not really a solar phase per se, but the
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sun does go through phases. So you find that imagery
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there on the temple and you find the Venus shell
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on the grounds.
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Of the temple square.
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You can find the hexagram because Mormonism was heavily influenced.
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Joseph Smith was heavily influenced by Judaism as much as
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he was influenced by Freemasonry. I've actually seen the one
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of the ritual halls in the temple. It's basically a
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Masonic temple. And then if you go all the way
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to Japan, where I am, as you said, you find
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the same lunar symbolism and solar symbolism on temples and
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within the general sort of spiritual culture. The primary goddess
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here is Amaterasu, who's the sun goddess. And that's not
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because there's a giant worldwide conspiracy or that there was
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some interconnected civilization in the past, I don't think. Well,
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I think that there was, but I don't think that's
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why you see this interconnectedness. I think you see it
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because everybody sees the sun. Even if you live in Alaska,
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you see the sun. Everybody sees the moon. So we
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develop a mythos out of that. And I don't want
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to ramble on and start pulling in all these details
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and make it very confusing for people. I'm trying to
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make it easier for people to understand that when we
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talk about the occult, most of this stuff is natural.
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Natural symbolism is archetypes, things like that. And then when
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you extrapolate that and you want to utilize it, like
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drawing on a certain symbol because of its power, if
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you draw on something like the lion is associated with
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the sun, this is something about ritual magic that I
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didn't understand for a long time. But if you draw
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on something, you want to draw on the power of
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the sun or the power of a lion, lion is
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an animal, a symbol of the sun, the lion's mane,
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like the Corona. So you might have a lion's tooth
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or you might have the fur of a lion. And
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if you carry that on you, then it's believed sympathetic
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magic that you hold onto that energy or that power
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of both the lion and the sun. So it's not
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a matter of whether or not those things are superstitions
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and that they should be dismissed and that they're like
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old world beliefs that are really silly. It's a matter
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of when you learn, what occultism is, when you learn
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what magic is, when you learn about the history of it,
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and then you see it clearly playing out in even
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the political sphere today. I know that you've probably discussed
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this on your show extensively, and I think that we
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got into it when you were on my show. But
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even just recently, Donald Trump's ex-wife, Marla Maples, said that
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he carries with him a page or a segment of
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a page from the Zohar. which is not a Christian
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book for the record. If you looked at someone like Obama,
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he gave an interview where he was proud of carrying
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a pocket full of not the cereal, but lucky charms.
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And those lucky charms were things like the God Hanuman,
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who I don't think is a bad thing. Hanuman is
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a God of selflessness and wisdom among other things, but
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that's not something you would expect a Muslim to carry.
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I don't really think Obama was Muslim, but you see
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this kind of thing play out with, uh, actual rituals too,
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not just symbols. Here's another example. I gave this example
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to John B. Wells recently when I was on. It
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doesn't matter what you think about the politics of it
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or the racial aspects of it, but when George Floyd died,
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first you read the autopsy, it says he died from COVID.
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He didn't die from a knee on his neck. He had, quote, COVID.
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He died of a heart attack, essentially. So that's what
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the autopsy found. But if you go beyond that and
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you find this this image of a guy who was
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like a counterfeiter and he was in pornography as well.
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And he was just not a great guy, not someone to,
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you don't want to aspire to be a George Floyd, right?
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But he's just this guy that they turned into almost
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like a saint. In fact, the white house had images
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when Biden was doing talks or speeches about George Floyd
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and racial violence. They had images. I have one of
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them in a presentation I gave where George Floyd is
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literally portrayed as like a saint or almost like an
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angel or an angelic being. So they've taken a guy,
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who has dark skin, they turned him into a god
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in a sense, a divine figure in a sense. And
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then they buried him literally in a golden coffin. Well,
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if you understand mythology, that's the story of the black God,
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Osiris put into the golden coffin. That, that can't be
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a coincidence when you see that type of a thing
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play out over and over and over and over again.
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So what are your thoughts on that?
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I think it's remarkable. Like there's almost this ritualized thing
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about this, uh, guy didn't he shoot somebody in the
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stomach or stab somebody in the stomach too like and
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he had he had heart disease but they turned him
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into some deity or whatever and you would talk about
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charm between obama look at the charmed bracelet between obama
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and biden with the pizza symbolism and symbolism and the
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yellow smiley face it's unbelievable stuff so this the the
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language of symbolism and occultism is definitely in play in
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world events and obama said all kinds of stuff in
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his speeches that are Masonic, like it's not the stones,
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but the power in between the stones, like literally said
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that on the campaign trail in 2008, like he solidified
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himself as one of these esoteric types, if you will.
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Anthony asks, aren't you conflating paganism with the occult by
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saying it's just nature symbolism? Do you have any answer
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to that? Let me read that.
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Aren't you conflating paganism with the occult by saying it's
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nature symbolism? That's an interesting question. Paganism, you could define
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paganism by its original definition, at least in contemporary terms.
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Paganism is the religion that is practiced by people usually
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in the countryside or essentially people that are outside of
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the mainline religious system. So like in the United States,
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if you're not a Christian, if you're not a Hindu, actually,
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if you're not a Muslim, those are the three of
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the biggest religions, then you kind of technically are a pagan.
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I don't think we really define it that way. We
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define paganism as people that worship like a bunch of gods,
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I suppose, and people that are witches, people that are
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pagans might fight over terms and definitions. But I would
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classify paganism as much as I would classify Christianity, quite frankly,
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as being occult because within paganism or within Christianity or
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within any religion, there are things that are metaphors, parables.
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In fact, that's what most of it is. It's mostly symbolism, psychology,
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things of that nature. So I would classify all of
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that as occult. That's the term that I use to
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describe theology, even anthropology for that matter. That's my definition.
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As a Christian, like Christ even said, I have hidden
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these things from people's understanding and hidden in a cold overlap.
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So these are just language terms we use for things
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that are secret. But he literally, I can find that
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quote where he said, I have used specific language to
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keep my teachings from people. So like, I mean, you
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have to accept part of it. And like some of
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these things he explained, he just didn't understand. He taught,
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he didn't explain in great detail. So there's enough stuff
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like debates within Christianity itself, not even bringing in other
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world religions or something like that. But if you want
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to talk about Solar phallic temples and things like that
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are moon phases. You can just go to St. Peter's Square.
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The whole thing is totally a cult. It has like
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literal obelisk and like there's an eight pointed star there.
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It's really something else. Like if you know the symbolism,
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you just be like they integrated some kind of ancient pre,
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you know, pre-Christian millennial. stuff into their, they always do.
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in New York has a bunch of stuff in there.
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Like it's all over. So we are, we're swimming in
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all this secret teachings. And even, I mean, you reference
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secret teachings of all ages, that book and one of
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your writings, and that's Manly P. Hall. And you can
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just see like people have critiqued that book, but there's
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a lot of like obvious stuff that's in the symbolism
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is really, worldwide. I think that's what the whole point
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of that book, which is a really remarkable book visually,
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not just as for his kind of, um, it's kind
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of like literary flex or whatever, like the visuals or
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something else.
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to write something like that. He was in his early
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twenties when he published it. Uh, but my show actually
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is named after it as you can probably assume the
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secret teachings.
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And I've always.
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Wondered why I'm all for critiques, but most of the
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critiques I've heard that are more like slander, at least recently,
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I've heard people claiming that Manly Hall was a pedophile
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and stuff like that. And I, I see a lot
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of that from some of the real hardcore Christian nationalists. They've,
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they accuse people like Manly Hall who's, who's passed away,
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but they accuse him of being like a pedophile. His works,
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like someone told me his works discredited. I said, what
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parts discredited it?
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All of it.
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I was told the same, a bunch of Roman historians.
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So that's the problem that I think we as a country,
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where you have, in a spiritual sense, you have a
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considerable portion of the population who are not like you
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as a Christian, or maybe some of your audience. They
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have a very literalist, and the Muslims do too, and
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the Jews do too, but they have a very literalist
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interpretation of things. And that very literalist interpretation of things
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It's being exploited by a foreign country to justify ongoing
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warfare and to create the optics of what appear to
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be what they believe to be Armageddon to create this
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end time scenario to bring about the Moshiach, to bring
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about the end of the world, at least again, perceptually,
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that's how they're framing it. And if you don't take
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those things literally because you don't have to be a
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Christian to have to be literate to know that in
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the new Testament, Jesus spoke in parables. It's one of
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his most famous quotes, right? He spoke in parables. Uh,
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he says the kingdom of heaven is inside of you.
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He tells the Pharisees in at least the book of Matthew,
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he tells the Pharisees that you're the one accused me
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who accused me of being the physical, like literal son
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of God. Like that's your accusation. Uh, I'm just telling
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you that people can sit at the right hand of
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God without your authority. Uh, so that you don't have
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to be, You just have to be literate. You don't
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have to be a Christian to know that much of
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it is symbolic. And that doesn't undermine or it doesn't
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refute or discredit the things that are taught there. It
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just means that they're part of a broader, in my assessment,
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they're part of a broader tradition that's universal. And again,
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it's not a negative thing. It's just like Christianity in
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a nutshell, like Islam and like Judaism even. I don't
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mean this offensively, but if people want to take it
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as such, that's fine by me too. I call it like,
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it's like Timu, that really crappy Chinese company that sells
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a bunch of cheap stuff for very little money. It's
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not good quality because you have this immense religious, spiritual, philosophical, psychological,
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magical system that's just reduced to, for some, Interpreting one
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line from the book of Genesis as like the whole
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definition of what your religion is. It's that kind of
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a thing. And then on to do contrast that on
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the side, you have people that claim to be those
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Christians so that they can get the votes politically. And
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then they're the ones that hold on to the quote
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old religion, all the so-called pagan symbols and the cult imagery.
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And I think, well, I'll stop there. It looks like
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you have something to add.
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Go ahead. There are. There are a lot of them
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out there. A lot of them know masonry, which is
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really a repository of these secret teachings. And you'll see
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some of these Christians. It's very strange. And the Old
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Testament says, like, you're of two minds or something like that.
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But it's there. Christianity. And a lot of these guys
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are high-level masons, 33rd degree. But Christ says in Matthew 13, 11, 13,
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To you has been given to know the secrets of
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the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not
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been given. This is why I speak to them in parables,
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because seeing they do not see and hearing they do
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not hear, nor do they understand. So he's clearly hiding stuff.
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I don't know if the term occult is right, but
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it's in there in Mark and Luke too, basically the
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same kind of statements. But yeah, Trump is a perfect
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example of a guy who presented himself to the right
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as a Christian, but He knows so much secret stuff.
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And even as most recent stuff, like he's literally presenting
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himself as like the magician from the tarot. It's unbelievable.
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That's right.
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I forgot about that. That's a great point. He did
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present himself as the magician from the tarot. I believe
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he also had a Kabbalah teacher too.
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biographies and Marina Abramovich said something really amazing about him,
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which he's like, he's like our magician revealing everything into
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the world. Like she would know, So I think that the,
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and that you just see the kind of treachery and
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betrayal of a lot of his followers was just incredible. So, um,
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these guys know a lot. They all do Bush, Obama, Trump,
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and they're up there in the political system for a reason. And, uh,
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that's what you kind of realize this agenda continues this
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kind of secret of called agenda.
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It can't be kind of like, it's kind of like
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learning another language. I'm currently learning Japanese, which is a
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very difficult language to learn. And in the process of
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learning it, when I watch or listen to something, that's
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in Japanese, a TV show or music, I try to
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like separate myself from what I know now compared to
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what I didn't know, like say 10 years ago, and
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I would hear something that's in Japanese. Cause I always
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liked the culture and always intended to come here and
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spend time here, but I can, I can put myself
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in a position. I can remember having listened to something
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and it just, I have no idea what they're saying.
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and I can pick out certain words and I can,
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I can, I can figure out like, where's the particle
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and where's the next word, what's being done. I can't
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necessarily understand everything they're saying, but I like, I know how,
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like I can understand the structure. And anyone who's ever
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learned a language knows that there's like a realization you
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have as you start to learn more and it sticks.
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That's how it is when you're looking at some of
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this stuff. Like if for someone that does not speak
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the language of symbols and you see this story, I'm
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sure you remember a couple of years ago, it was
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2024 when NASA launched all those rockets, maybe one or two.
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They launched rockets at the eclipse to do a scientific study.
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I do.
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So if you just looked at that, it's like, oh,
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NASA's just doing some science. But if you look deeper,
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and you didn't have to look very deep because they
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told you what the name of the project was. The
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mission was called APEP. It was NASA's Atmospheric Perturbations Around
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Eclipse Path Mission. And they say, this isn't me saying this,
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so you don't have to look very deep like I said,
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but they say that the mission was literally named for
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the Egyptian god of darkness and the enemy of the
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sun god Ra. So that is APEC, the serpent. And NASA,
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you can actually look this up and find it for free.
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If you type in NASA, the name of that report,
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you type in NASA, you could probably type in NASA
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Occult Names PDF Missions or NASA Occult Names Missions PDF.
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There's an official NASA paper where I think I have
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it on my website. There's an official NASA paper where they,
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they label and list like all of the difference of
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rockets and missions, you know, like the Apollo mission. Uh,
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now we have Artemis, for example, Saturn five rocket, uh, Gemini,
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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And it's all based
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on mythology. Uh, the original founders of NASA, the original
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rocket scientists like Jack Parsons would literally go out into
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the desert and recite poems and, read probably incantations to
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the boat God pawn. So the whole like NASA, a
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lot of people know this already. But if you don't
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know the language, and you just see NASA's firing up
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some rockets, you know, you could put your NASA shirt
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on your shirt that says I need my space, little
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NASA hat, and you're all excited. It's just science. But
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underneath of the science is a very esoteric occult. That
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doesn't mean it's evil. It just it's a very occult agenda.
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And the important thing to recognize here is that they
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don't just say that they've named it after a pep,
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but if you go back and you read the stories,
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I read this in encyclopedias, you go back and you
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read the stories about how the Egyptians used to ritualize this,
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this APEP story, how they used to ritualize the, or
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they used to enact or sort of ritualize and enact the, the,
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the myth. They would fire, spears at the sun when
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there was an eclipse occurring, symbolically to stab the serpent
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and to pull it off of the barge of Ra,
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who is a personification of the creative source, Atum. You
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have Kephri, you have Atum, and you have Ra. So
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there's another Egyptian trinity. Ra is the physical representation of
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the sun, the physical expression. So the serpent eats it,
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and then they fire spears to stop the serpent from
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eating it. And that's, or at least preventing it from
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moving in the sky. That's the, that's actually the solar disc.
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That's the solar wheel. That's the original UFO because it's
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a disc. It's a solar flying disc. It flies across
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the sky. It crashes in the evening. And then you
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have to find the pieces of it like Roswell. And
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then you put it back together and then it resurrects
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and comes back to life. And it's an endless cycle.
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And really the solar disc is the original unidentified flying objects,
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the original UFO story in my assessment. So Anyway, if
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you understand the language, the point is not only will
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they tell you, yes, this program is named after a pep,
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but they also carry out the literal ritual in the
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same way that George Floyd was turned into a black
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god and put into a golden coffin. Once you see that,
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maybe one time as a coincidence, but when you see
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that happening on the racial political level, and then you
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see that happening on the level of high science and
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high government, And then you see the in-between things like
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the lucky charms and the, and the scroll part of
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the Zohar being carried. It's not that it's evil. It's
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just that it's a cult and it's that these people
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are definitely not what you think they are. They definitely
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believe in things, uh, that are beyond the scope of
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your traditional on the surface, religious beliefs, whether that actually
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gives them power or not. It's really just about the
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mind and belief. Um, I would assume that a lot
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of folks do these things because you're in a position
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of power. A lot of it's probably because it's not
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just occult, but it's an actual cult and you have
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to participate in this. But others might actually believe that
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it gives them power and based on the belief, just
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like Christians with the cross or whatever the case might be,
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they derive power from it. So that's probably why they
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do it. But it's not all evil is the point
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because the APEP ritual is the opposite. you're stopping the
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serpent from eating the sun. That's not evil. That's the
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opposite of evil. As far as I'm concerned, it's more
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complex than that, but as far as, but it.
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Shows that this is influencing events. And that was during 20, 2024.
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This is like when Trump is, is on his like
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presidential campaign butlers in July where he says 93, like
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three times. And then he supposedly gets shot in the year.
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that of like loyalty where you cut your ear.
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You put it all together. And then during that time,
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one thing I never did is I, my most recent
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book is about the smiley face killers. And when that
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total solar eclipse happened, there were a bunch of disappearances
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and deaths, water deaths that followed the trace. If you remember,
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I went from Texas kind of East over the United States,
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at least here. And there was like, I called it
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like the, uh, Like a hellfire burning. There were so
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many of these types of disappearances and deaths that I
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had to believe that these, what I believe are ritualized
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killings were in collaboration or happened because and during this
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celestial event. There's a correlation.
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You know, that's actually not something that I haven't watched.
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I think there was a documentary about it recently. I
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haven't watched that. I don't know much about it, but people,
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a few people I know told me that I should
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watch it because that's what they, they thought that it
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was as well, what you're describing.
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So I need to watch, you know, the name of
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the documentary.
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No, someone had mentioned it to a couple of listeners
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mentioned it to me. I don't know the name of it.
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But there's like weird things happen. Cause like the, the,
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if you remember like cut across Texas and Texas is,
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was not a place where a lot of these smiley
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face killings took place back in the day. It was
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not a hotspot. And then all of a sudden, 2024,
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all these young men disappear. It's really, it's just astonishing.
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You know, another thing that's important to point out in
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regard to that is if we're talking about rituals, let's first,
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I'm just going to define the term. It just means
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a prescribed way of doing things. So ritual is not evil.
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You go to church, it's a ritual, the Eucharist, it's
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a ritual, right?
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A hundred percent.
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But a ritual of, There's a difference between literally interpreting something,
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as I was saying earlier, and then interpreting something as
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more symbolic and having a deeper meaning. So if you
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were to interpret animal sacrifice as literal, you would definitely
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go kill an animal and sacrifice it on the altar
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to your god or whatever it is that you worship.
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If you were to interpret human sacrifice as such, you
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would do the same thing. But if you were to
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interpret it in a different way, and there is another
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way to interpret it, and it's just as valid as
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an interpretation, you would interpret the animal sacrifice as having
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more to do with the animal nature. And the sacrifice
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is not just giving in to all of your animal impulses.
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And if you can conquer that animal impulse, then you
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can slay the dragon, the proverbial dragon, and you become...
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master of your temple. And the animal sacrifice, similar to
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the human sacrifice, is a burning up. So you're burning
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the animal in the literal one, but in the figurative one,
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the symbolic one, you're burning up all those things that
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otherwise have controlled your life, your impulses and all that.
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And then the human one is the same exact thing.
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You're sort of sacrificing certain things in life so that
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you can go inside of the self internally and you
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can recognize you can grow you can evolve you can
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connect with your true self, the true I am, which
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is both biblical as much as it is in the
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Bhagavad Gita. It's in the Far East. So this is
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a universal understanding, famous in ancient Greece, the I am
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in Sanskrit. I don't know how to pronounce it. It's
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like Tat Atim or something like that. It's the I am,
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the I am. Joseph Campbell writes about that. So it's
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important to understand that. you hear these things like oh
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it's animal sacrifice human sacrifice is so evil first of
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all a lot of that stuff a lot of those
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stories if we're talking about say that the um say
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the aztecs yeah they did perform literal sacrifices but so
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did the you know so did the uh the the
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israelites you know they perform literal sacrifices too so but
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the point in bringing that up is because a lot
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of that stuff first of all it happens usually when
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a civilization has declined to the point where it's about to,
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it's crumbling and collapsing. And second of all, oftentimes when
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people would perform those sacrifices, they didn't have to find victims.
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People willingly offered themselves up for the sacrifice, right? And
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we find, we can find, I don't want to get
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too far off track here, but we can find a
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record of that. As a matter of fact, within the
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Christian tradition, there are stories that are documented by Edward
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Gibbon where Christians would go on a trial and before
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a roman magistrate and they would be accused of this
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or that and the the romans were actually very religiously
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tolerant despite all the propaganda and they they would say
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well we we haven't found a charge against you but
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you know there's a crowd of people that your head
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and uh all we would like you to do is
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maybe just acknowledge that other people have a right to
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believe what they want to believe and they don't want
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to convert to your you know your system of belief
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there's actually records like i've read some of the stories
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like this that are documented And the Christian would just demand, well, no,
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I'm not doing that. Kill me for Jesus kind of
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a thing. And in fact, Dion Cassius, a Greek who
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became a Roman senator, he's one of the official sources
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for what happened in 70 AD on the Temple Mount.
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And he says that it was actually the Jewish priests
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that burned most of the surrounding area. And when the
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Romans got into the temple, finally, they didn't have to
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kill anybody. the, the priests killed themselves. They threw themselves
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on the, on the swords of the Romans, like suicide
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by cop, or they just threw themselves into the fire
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and burn because they were martyring themselves for what they believed.
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So people did that on Masada too. So when the
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Romans kind of went to Masada and built this huge
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ramp to get in there, once they got in, they
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were all suicided. Yep.
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That's what, I mean that if you really believe something, uh, you'll,
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you'll die for it. You know, it's, it's, it becomes,
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it's your identity.
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It's who you are. You can't live without it.
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So that in regard to human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, a
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lot of the stuff was also invented by, by travelers
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and by religious officials to undermine and to play down the,
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the significance, I guess I would say significance or the
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maybe profoundness or the sophisticated nature of some of these
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other non-Christian, tribal belief systems that had far predated Christianity
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to undermine the value in them. Like the Mayans. The
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Mayans were masters of mathematics and they're just kind of
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portrayed as these ignorant jungle savages in terms of how
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we look back on history. So anyway, in regard to
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the human-animal sacrifice stuff, understanding the language of all of this,
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I think that it's really... important to not look at
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occultism from the point of view of like what your
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personal biases or beliefs are because that's going to define
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it it's important to look at it from like an
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academic point of view just just try to be neutral
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and understand why people are doing other things that you
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don't agree with and maybe be a little bit more
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uh open to not that you agree with it but
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why would someone do something like whatever the example is.
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So you can understand like where they're coming from. Like,
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I don't, I'm not going to carry a copy of
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the Zohar with me, but if I learn that and I,
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and objectively understand why Trump does that, then it makes it,
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it's congruent with all of his other actions and what
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he's doing. So then it makes it more, it makes
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just standard political conversations more, more, more clear. Like I
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can understand what's happening because that's, that's the, the modus operandi. That's,
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clearly what he actually believes, not what he tells people
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he believes. That's what he actually believes. So that's, what's
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motivating his actions. That's, that's the point I'm trying to
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drive home.
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Right. And it fits in with a lot of his behavior,
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Schneerson and these other rabbis he's with that Netanyahu's with
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and all this other stuff he does going to the
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wall and his associations and things like that. I mean,
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it seems like something there, although I think he's like
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a really mercenary opportunist who probably, take and say anything
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if he got something out of it. I think that's
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pretty evident. He has the morals of Bob. I always
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think of him as, you mentioned the great book Dune
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by Frank Herbert, but I always think of him as
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Baron R. Conan, like this bloated fat guy who has
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the morality of, who's a moral leper, really, I think, Trump.
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My Dune, my America.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like that. It's almost like
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something like out of a science fiction novel, like, kind
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of treachery that the Harkonnens were known for, all this stuff.
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But you see those kind of occulted ideas and all
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that stuff. It actually ties into, believe it or not,
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a little bit of the book Fight Club, which is
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about human sacrifice. Soap is sacrifice. And they mentioned the
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Druids who engaged in human sacrifice. So it's another example
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of this kind of pre-Christian thing where they got sacrificed.
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But Christ himself said there's no greater deed than sacrificing
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yourself for your friends is what Christ said or something
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like that, or giving your life for your friends. Yeah.
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If you interpret that literally, obviously that would mean that
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you're going to kill yourself or something for your friends.
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It's not, that's not what it obviously means or it
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should be obvious, but it's symbolic.
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Right. But I mean, he's just saying that these kinds
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of things. Yeah. So.
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Hey, you mentioned the, the cutting of the ear.
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Right.
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With Trump, that's something that we should probably address in
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terms of the occultism. You're right. I think there's three
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that I can recall. One's in the book of John.
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I think there's three references to the servant of the
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high priest having their right ear cut, whether it's wounded
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or actually cut off. I pulled up John 18.10.
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I'll read you the.
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The verse here, it says, Then Simon Peter, who had
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a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant,
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cutting off his right ear. And then Jesus commanded Peter,
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put your sword away, etc. It's a very famous section
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of the Bible. So if you read that, and you
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have various confirmations in the New Testament, different points of
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view of that story, and then you look at what
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happened in Butler, and you look at the sort of
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rabbinical class, the high priests, the ones that Jesus preached
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against same types of people that are around Trump. And
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then you see that he's carrying the Zohar and you
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see what his motivations are and what he's doing. Then
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you kind of get this impression that he is the
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servant of the high priest. The high priest is your,
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your rabbinical class. And it's not just that the right
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ear is cut, but just as well been as left ear.
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It's that when you start looking into the details of
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what MAGA is, there's two really important, you could call
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them both twilight language and coincidence, but there's two really
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important things here that are necessary to address. Number one,
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if you go to the Church of Satan, their website.
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Was that the link you sent me? Yes, I sent
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you a link.
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To the APEP story. What do you want me to show?
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Yes, scroll down to their, on that same page, to
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their hierarchy page. Keep scrolling down the different degrees. There
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should be a list of five there.
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Or six, rather.
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Well, the registered degree is no degree. Registered member is
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no degree. But there's five active degrees. Active, witch, priestess, magistra,
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and then magus or maga. Maga is, of course, magus
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is the magician, the fifth degree. So that works in
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two ways. It works in one way because of the
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magician tarot card that you referenced Trump portrayed himself as.
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It also works because MAGA is the, it's literally spelled M-A-G-A, MAGA.
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Then if you were to look up, this is more
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of the Twilight language. If you type, you could type
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this in or click the LA Times article that I
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sent you.
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Yeah.
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So Pollard was a, was a, was the worst spy
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in US history. And he was spying for that foreign country.
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And that's the fact that, Benjamin Netanyahu actually visited him.
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Somehow he was allowed to visit him in prison in
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the United States. The guy that runs the country that
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Pollard was spying on behalf of. But anyway, if you
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read this article from the LA Times, it says, what
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do they mean when they say MAGA? It is an
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innocent code word used by the Israeli Mossad to describe
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the CIA. Or is it a sinister cipher referring to
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an American trader who works for intelligence or the Israeli intelligence?
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In other words, MAGA was literally. a code back in
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the 90s, 80s and 90s for what was believed to
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either be just Jonathan Pollard or a larger, broader network
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of Israeli spies in the United States. So then you
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go to the New Testament and you read when Jesus
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calls the same group of people the synagogue of Satan.
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So you've got the church of Satan. You've got the
709
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references to the servant of the high priest. You've got
710
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mega and mega. All of that is congruent. It's not,
711
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I don't think it's a coincidence. I think all of
712
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that is ritualized. And I think it, it's a public,
713
00:40:08.539 --> 00:40:10.920
people talk about these humiliation rituals that you see in
714
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like the music industry. I think that's what it is.
715
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.500
I think it's a humiliation ritual in a sense. And
716
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I think it solidifies the, In this case, Trump, it
717
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solidifies him as the actual servant of these people. So
718
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did you know any of that? What do you think
719
00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:24.739
of that?
720
00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:28.219
I've heard of similar stuff like that. And I also
721
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in the context of Trump, like he comes from like
722
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:37.880
a WWE background, like a literal wrestling where they do
723
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:41.219
this squib stuff all the time. They they palm something
724
00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:42.920
in their hand. That's what he did is take his
725
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.710
hand and put it up against his ear. So maybe
726
00:40:45.869 --> 00:40:47.909
that was really what it was, was like a marker.
727
00:40:48.329 --> 00:40:51.250
With the 93 involved, so I think there's all kinds
728
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of things. And Jewish worldview is like you have this
729
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.519
Shabbos goy. What the Shabbos goy is, is that somebody
730
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.860
who does stuff for you during Shabbat, right? Because you're
731
00:41:01.900 --> 00:41:04.539
not allowed to do it. So it's this concept of
732
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having a servant. And unfortunately, there, I mean, in a
733
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lot of religions, there are a lot, it depends on
734
00:41:12.059 --> 00:41:15.170
what part of Judaism, but It allows for slaves and
735
00:41:15.210 --> 00:41:18.469
things like that and lackeys and all these other things
736
00:41:18.510 --> 00:41:24.710
like this hierarchy and you're not initiated or you haven't
737
00:41:24.750 --> 00:41:29.880
had your, what do they call it, whatever, when they're
738
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13 years old. So it wouldn't be a surprise. That's
739
00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:35.539
how the way they're treating Trump and his group is
740
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:42.280
like these are people we control and there are lackeys.
741
00:41:42.980 --> 00:41:46.070
I think that's- he was also given the, I think
742
00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:49.449
it was recently, he was given the crown of Jerusalem award.
743
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:52.690
I think, uh, who was it? Was it Huckabee or
744
00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:55.329
was it, I know it was Rubio. Rubio, I think
745
00:41:55.369 --> 00:41:57.949
just got a sip, not the same award, but he
746
00:41:57.989 --> 00:42:02.010
got a similar type of award recently, but all.
747
00:42:02.230 --> 00:42:04.329
Of the stuff we know, who knows what's going on
748
00:42:04.349 --> 00:42:06.570
with the red heifer and what, what other things are
749
00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:09.690
happening and. Oh yeah. I mean, there's scenes.
750
00:42:11.489 --> 00:42:15.090
I think Laura Loomer, the Mossad agent, I think it
751
00:42:15.110 --> 00:42:18.150
was her originally, she had posted a picture of herself.
752
00:42:18.469 --> 00:42:20.670
There were some other people too that had done it.
753
00:42:20.690 --> 00:42:24.250
They've got a replica, like it's Indiana Jones or something.
754
00:42:24.269 --> 00:42:27.309
They've got a replica of the Ark of the Covenant
755
00:42:27.349 --> 00:42:28.150
at Mar-a-Lago.
756
00:42:29.750 --> 00:42:33.210
That's right, I saw that. Like a literal gilded gold
757
00:42:33.869 --> 00:42:38.269
Mark of the Covenant. All this pre-Christian biblical stuff is
758
00:42:38.309 --> 00:42:43.570
coming back. And that mentality is there too. It is.
759
00:42:43.809 --> 00:42:45.809
You know, now that you, since you say it like that,
760
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this old Testament stuff, if you don't mind, I think
761
00:42:48.630 --> 00:42:52.530
I want to address the recent so-called arc of Noah find.
762
00:42:52.550 --> 00:42:53.550
Do you know anything about that?
763
00:42:53.570 --> 00:42:54.550
No. Tell me about it.
764
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So there's a group that's been studying the let's, let's
765
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try to get this really crystal clear and straight. There's
766
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a lot of confusion over this. So there's reports going
767
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back to the 1960s. that the Ark of Noah has
768
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maybe been found in Turkey. And it's basically a rock formation.
769
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Maybe it is the actual Ark.
770
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I don't know.
771
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It's the Duru Pinar Formation in Turkey, if you'd like
772
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to look it up. And they have recently, there's a
773
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group that has been studying it, and they have said
774
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that they're doing core samples and they're trying to find
775
00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:36.280
whether or not There's this petrified wood. Does it come
776
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from this time period? Do the core samples show? Is
777
00:43:40.739 --> 00:43:43.320
there animal DNA in it? As if any of that
778
00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:48.449
would really prove something. It's the natural world. Wood petrifies
779
00:43:48.489 --> 00:43:51.110
the whole forest of it in Arizona. There's animals all
780
00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:53.369
over the place. You can find animal DNA. I don't
781
00:43:53.389 --> 00:43:55.650
know how that proves it's the Ark of Noah, but nevertheless,
782
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that's what they're reporting. The group that's behind this hasn't
783
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actually done the analysis yet they literally just got approval
784
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to do the core drilling uh within the last as
785
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of this interview within the last week or so and
786
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they say that i think it's going to be around
787
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christmas time which could play into the symbol symbolic and
788
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almost propaganda nature of this stuff uh that they're going
789
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to kind of reveal if they get the results back
790
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they're going to reveal what these results are uh the
791
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thing is this this formation or maybe it actually is
792
00:44:29.789 --> 00:44:33.849
the arc has been known since the 60s. And if
793
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you go back and look at news reports or university findings,
794
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like literally every decade at least, sometimes more than once
795
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a decade and some years more than once in a year,
796
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there are stories about how the Ark of Noah was found.
797
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It's been going on since the 60s. We're talking like
798
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over half a century. And almost all those stories are
799
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about this formation in Turkey. Now, personally, if the Ark
800
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of Noah is found, that's cool. For me, it doesn't
801
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change my worldview. I'm pretty certain there was at least
802
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one flood. There probably were several floods, local and maybe
803
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even global. The Chinese have flood stories that far predate
804
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the biblical account. There's flood stories in virtually every culture,
805
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the Epic of Gilgamesh.
806
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:25.840
Somebody found like 26 different cultures have some kind of
807
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.730
flood story. Yeah, and.
808
00:45:30.019 --> 00:45:32.340
Look at the Chinese today. There's big floods in China
809
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.340
that occur, and we've seen them in the news. I mean,
810
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:38.070
that's big enough in the old days to turn into
811
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a legend or a myth. But that wasn't the whole world.
812
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That was just a big part of China. In other cases,
813
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it may have been the whole world. Either way, it
814
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doesn't really matter. The point is, when you look at
815
00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:50.989
this formation, they haven't actually confirmed anything. And the only
816
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:55.130
scientific evidence that does exist, back in the 90s, the
817
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University of California was looking at, I think it was
818
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like an iron hinge.
819
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:03.880
From this area. And that's the arc.
820
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And then they did analysis of, and they found it's completely,
821
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it's all completely natural.
822
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There's nothing.
823
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And then people will say, well, that's what the atheists
824
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want you to believe.
825
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Okay.
826
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But the point is back to what you said about the,
827
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but the old Testament, the point is the way that
828
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this is being publicized is that the arc was found.
829
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.079
Now the team acknowledges that they've never actually, they don't
830
00:46:27.139 --> 00:46:31.059
have the results yet for their analysis. The only analysis
831
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.409
is that we do have going back 30 plus years
832
00:46:33.489 --> 00:46:38.050
show that this is completely natural, but nevertheless, and regardless,
833
00:46:38.909 --> 00:46:41.929
not only are they promoting this as proof of the arc,
834
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the talking point is, and this is something you have
835
00:46:45.730 --> 00:46:48.730
to independently verify yourself as a listener, but the talking
836
00:46:48.789 --> 00:46:50.550
point is from all the big talking, a lot of
837
00:46:50.590 --> 00:46:54.920
conservative Christian talking heads is this proves that Christ is
838
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.460
physically died and was resurrected. And I'm confused because those
839
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.400
are two different testaments, different books and different languages. The
840
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.340
arc of Noah has virtually nothing to do with the
841
00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:07.940
story of Jesus resurrecting. Like it's, yeah, maybe it's in
842
00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:10.340
the same book, quote unquote, but it's not actually in
843
00:47:10.380 --> 00:47:11.139
the same book, right?
844
00:47:11.219 --> 00:47:14.750
It's Genesis. It's the beginning of like the old Testament
845
00:47:14.869 --> 00:47:18.170
is Noah. So I don't, I think he only has like,
846
00:47:18.429 --> 00:47:21.909
like two sections of Genesis. It's not like in depth.
847
00:47:22.969 --> 00:47:27.079
This whole, No, it's a very small segment of Genesis.
848
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.260
This whole thing, though, again, to your point, I don't
849
00:47:30.300 --> 00:47:32.400
mean to be long-winded, but I think what you said
850
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.480
there is important. This Old Testament stuff is coming back.
851
00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:38.860
There are stories that parallel this Noah's Ark story. There
852
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are stories mostly from the New York Post, but others
853
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.840
as well, that talk about how they found temple beams
854
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.909
from 70 AD that were scorched. So that proves that
855
00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:51.369
the temple was burned by the Romans, even though the
856
00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:55.059
historians say it was actually them that set the area
857
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.920
on fire. Other stories like there's one about how they
858
00:48:00.059 --> 00:48:05.550
think they found the Ark of the Covenant, which reportedly
859
00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:07.329
the CIA knew where that was in the 80s from
860
00:48:07.349 --> 00:48:10.070
remote viewing, but regardless of what your stance is on that,
861
00:48:10.789 --> 00:48:13.030
we've had reports of that every decade.
862
00:48:13.210 --> 00:48:15.610
Ethiopia, there's all kinds.
863
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.920
Yeah, Ethiopia. Exactly, exactly. Ethiopia as well. When you look
864
00:48:19.940 --> 00:48:23.519
at that story, there's There's within it is like this
865
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.739
undercurrent of propaganda because they say they think they found it.
866
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.929
But unfortunately, a lot of the area is like under
867
00:48:30.969 --> 00:48:34.130
the dome of the rock. So in order to get
868
00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:36.739
it out, blow it up, they have to blow it up.
869
00:48:37.230 --> 00:48:40.969
The point is, a lot of this stuff is just propaganda.
870
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.199
And I think it's part of the Eighth Front War
871
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.400
to convince and to really rile up Christians.
872
00:48:46.500 --> 00:48:47.659
Oh, my God, it's all real.
873
00:48:48.250 --> 00:48:51.489
But within that, it's all a focus on the Old Testament.
874
00:48:51.590 --> 00:48:53.250
None of it's the New Testament.
875
00:48:54.369 --> 00:48:56.449
Never. That's the whole thing about going and praying in
876
00:48:56.489 --> 00:48:59.789
front of the wall. That wall is a Roman fort wall.
877
00:48:59.849 --> 00:49:01.670
Some people have made the argument that has nothing to
878
00:49:01.710 --> 00:49:04.289
do with the temple. So it's purely, if that's the case,
879
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.440
that's purely symbolic. And they want people to have the
880
00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:12.639
allegiance towards the Old Testament, which is great for Christians.
881
00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:15.710
you get the book together. You get the new and
882
00:49:15.730 --> 00:49:18.869
the old together. For Jews, you get the Old Testament,
883
00:49:18.889 --> 00:49:23.389
the Tanakh, and then depending upon what version of Judaism,
884
00:49:23.449 --> 00:49:26.360
you either get some kind of rabbinical text, the Talmud,
885
00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:31.239
the Zohar, who knows. But you see what's really fascinating.
886
00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:34.880
We are in such an incredible time. It's almost like 2,000
887
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.099
years ago where you see this old battle taking place
888
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:43.550
again between Jews and messianic jews of christ following not
889
00:49:43.650 --> 00:49:47.769
the messianic jews of uh of the old testament type
890
00:49:47.809 --> 00:49:50.710
of messiah they expected because that was kind of the
891
00:49:50.849 --> 00:49:54.030
the the old thing is people the jews expected a
892
00:49:54.070 --> 00:49:57.889
certain type of messiah like a world conqueror and christ
893
00:49:58.190 --> 00:50:02.489
and that was kind of the original temptation actually was
894
00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:06.460
um like christ's temptation like to like peter tempts i
895
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.840
get behind me satan or Judas is tempting Christ to
896
00:50:10.900 --> 00:50:13.380
do this, you know, why don't you do this or
897
00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:16.400
do that? And so it's, you're seeing that happen again
898
00:50:16.460 --> 00:50:20.130
in real time. Like the Jews have their own interpretation
899
00:50:20.329 --> 00:50:24.110
of their world Messiah, not the Christian one. And so
900
00:50:24.130 --> 00:50:26.610
I think these battles are playing out through the symbolism,
901
00:50:26.650 --> 00:50:30.090
just like you're talking about and the contextualizing of Noah's
902
00:50:30.170 --> 00:50:33.250
Ark or the Ark of the Covenant or the wall,
903
00:50:33.309 --> 00:50:35.679
which seems to be like a really, you have to
904
00:50:35.739 --> 00:50:38.630
prostrate yourself in front of the wall. They should be at,
905
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:45.610
The church of the Holy Sepulchre, right? That's where all
906
00:50:45.650 --> 00:50:48.869
the Christians should be is there because that's the most important,
907
00:50:48.949 --> 00:50:52.489
should be the most important site for Christians because that's
908
00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:58.619
where Christ was supposedly crucified and resurrected. So, and you
909
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.000
almost never see that in the media in the United States.
910
00:51:01.619 --> 00:51:04.530
It'll be a very rare instance where you actually see
911
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.449
Christians at the church of the Holy Sepulchre.
912
00:51:08.369 --> 00:51:11.190
That's almost never referenced. The last time I heard a
913
00:51:11.590 --> 00:51:15.269
reference to that was a CNN story about how I
914
00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:18.789
think Christians were actually prevented from going there. Right.
915
00:51:20.130 --> 00:51:23.579
That's the whole thing. Like I said, you're seeing this
916
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.119
played out again on a global stage after 2,000 years
917
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.840
where Jews are dispersed, where Christianity took a foothold in
918
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.099
the Roman Empire, and then it's all over the world,
919
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.260
like literally Christianity. How many Christians are there? $ 1. 5 billion.
920
00:51:38.260 --> 00:51:42.000
$ 2 billion. Plus $ 2 billion. And now it's all coming back,
921
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.659
and then the Jews return. You have this Aliyah back
922
00:51:45.900 --> 00:51:51.480
and the Nakba where people are dispersed. And really, it's
923
00:51:51.500 --> 00:51:54.159
a global war for Israel. It takes place in the
924
00:51:54.219 --> 00:51:57.280
Middle East, but the real battle for Israel actually takes
925
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.489
place in the United States. And part of that is
926
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an ideological war. of like all these secret symbols in
927
00:52:03.110 --> 00:52:05.110
society and you can call them a cold or whatever
928
00:52:05.170 --> 00:52:07.130
you want to call it, but it's definitely.
929
00:52:08.570 --> 00:52:10.789
Well, even when they were, when, when you, I thought,
930
00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:14.750
what was that story about the America reads the Bible?
931
00:52:14.769 --> 00:52:17.269
Do you remember that about a couple of months ago, two,
932
00:52:17.309 --> 00:52:20.039
three months ago, four months ago?
933
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:21.000
Tell me about it.
934
00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:24.519
America reads the Bible is a, it's like a group,
935
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.889
a series of groups of, Some of them are Christian.
936
00:52:27.909 --> 00:52:29.869
Some of them are Jewish, pretending to be Christian. Some
937
00:52:29.889 --> 00:52:33.409
of them are openly Jewish groups. And it's about getting
938
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America to read the Bible. And they had Trump, they
939
00:52:37.030 --> 00:52:39.239
had a little message that they recorded with Trump and
940
00:52:39.260 --> 00:52:42.840
he read part of the Old Testament. And the part
941
00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:45.320
of the Old Testament that they had him read was
942
00:52:45.380 --> 00:52:50.760
about the old temple. And as he's reading this, what
943
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.340
was in the news at the time and what is
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still in the news is that they're building this big
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ballroom Under the White House, right? Or the ballroom and
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under the ballroom is like a bunker. That's all confirmed.
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Now there's a bunker under the ballroom. Maybe even nuclear.
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I don't know. There's a bunker, though.
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Well, it's so strange that they have the president talking about,
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in this Old Testament text, reading about the temple that
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was destroyed. And then underneath of him, they're building a
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bunker where the whole ballroom itself, and I guess you
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could assume as an extension, the bunker, whatever it actually is,
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They literally fired the team that was building it initially.
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And they hired a Jewish guy who literally renovates temples.
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So they have a temple builder building this. And if
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you look at the picture that Trump, I can send
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you a screenshot of it from my book. If you
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look at a picture of what the ballroom layout is,
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it is eerily similar to Solomon's temple.
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Right. I've heard that. Yeah. It's that same kind of
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rectangular shape, right? it's so weird. And this is very
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occultism because you see this, even the occult Jews and
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things like that in Masonry have this fixation with the
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original second temple with the, the pillars of Boaz and Jachin.
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And that's supposedly what the twin towers represented. And you'll
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see that even with Epstein, he had this huge gaudy
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wooden bookshelf and he had, they had the, they, they
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have the, the temples are different. I mean, the, The
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pillars are different in design on the temple. So you
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can tell that they're clearly Boaz and Jachin. And so
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this is a very important thing with like Jews and
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the winding staircases from the temple too. So like you
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see that reflected in Eyes Wide Shut. Somebody mentioned that
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in the comments. If you guys have any questions for
976
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the guests, feel free to put them in the chat.
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So it's all coming around again, just like you're talking about.
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And I am is this kind of mix of the
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old emphasis on the Old Testament. And if you read
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the New Testament again with kind of like eyes of
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the contest between people fighting for their version of what
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kind of theology there. And there's just massive, really hardcore battles.
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They're trying to kill Paul constantly. Like he's beaten, left
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for dead. He's got to escape from like a window.
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00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:23.789
He's shipwrecked. They're threatening to kill him. He says, I
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got to go. I'm a Roman citizen. I demand to
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go to Rome. And then finally, he gets his head
988
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cut off.
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And so it's... You could actually, since you bring up Paul,
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you could actually say that I'm not saying I'm an
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advocate of this belief. I'm saying that you could, since
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you also mentioned Frank Herbert, you could argue predictive programming
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in the Dune franchise that's in the theater. It's coming
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in the theaters in a couple of months, the new
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and final installment, the third movie, because... Paul Atreides is,
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I'm pretty sure, very clearly named after that Paul that
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you're referring to. The entire Dune story is about a
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jihad and a crusade, a holy war, where a bunch
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of people die across the universe. It's very religious. It's
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very esoteric and occult. The whole ritual of the drinking
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of the blue water of life, the suspended animation, the
1002
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resurrection of Paul after he does this, the whole thing
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is incredibly esoteric and occult. And that's one of the
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big movies and has been one of the big movies
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the last handful of years. Uh, the third part's coming
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out now and that's, you could say it's kind of
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predictive programming because that's what Hegseth, that's what Trump, that's
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what Netanyahu, all these guys are advocating for this like
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holy war, this crusade against Islam.
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A lot of them are Knights of Malta. They were
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for Iraq and they're put into this play. Like literally
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Hegseth has a tattoo of the, uh, sign or the
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cross of Jerusalem. Yeah, he does. Um, it is. Yeah. Yeah.
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And all this stuff. So it's, it's really incredible. It's really,
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I mean, so these are all the esoteric kind of
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a cold things that the symbols that have a lot
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of meaning that these guys subscribe, subscribe to. And a
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lot of that, uh, a lot of these people on
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the right, if you follow them, they, these girls have
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tattoos of the Jerusalem cross and, Or wear necklaces of them,
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these influencers, these right-wing influencers that are very adjacent to
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conservative Jews of different stripes. Shapiro comes to mind. But
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a lot of these so-called Christians are very much, whether
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00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.800
they realize it or not, but they're in league with
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people who are not Christians at all. They do not
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believe Jesus the Messiah.
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They actually affect people that hate Jesus. that hates, despise.
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Yeah. Yeah. One of those Christians and despise Christ and Christians, actually. Yes.
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He's seen as idolater. They actually, it's part, part of
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the Noahide laws is that you're not supposed to be against,
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you're supposed to be against idolatry. And the Christian's view
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of Christ is idolatrous according, well, according to some of
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their teaching, well, Noahide teachings. That's it. So you got
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to really be careful. Like, You can go talk to
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people in Israel and they'll be like, yeah, we're going
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to cut off the Christian's head because they're idolaters and
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they idolize Christ. It's not idolatry. They don't, we don't,
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the Christians don't, it's not an idol. It shouldn't be.
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Sometimes there's statuaries and things like that that have questionable
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theological merit, but you're not supposed to have this idolatrous
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view like he's a graven image or something. It's ridiculous.
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I assume you know what the punishment is for a
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violation of the Noahide laws.
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Beheading, right?
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Yeah, the thing they keep telling us the Muslims are
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going to do to us, that's actually what the rabbis
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want to do to you.
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Some of the rabbis, you have to, like, Judaism has
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a lot of different stripes, a lot of different things,
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but some of those views are, you know, cut your
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head off. They wouldn't tell that to your face, but... Also,
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if you.
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fact, if you possess the Torah, the Sanhedrin classifies that
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as a grave offense. And the punishment for possessing the
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Torah is death. It's decapitation too, which is why it's
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so strange that the Skull-Filled Bible says, view has been
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pushed in the media and by, you know, the Ted
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Cruz's and the Huckabees, because if you possess the Torah
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and you say, look, it says here in Genesis that
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I have to bless or be cursed. That's the end
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game of that is you're acknowledging that you have a
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copy of it, that you read it, that you follow it,
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that you believe in it. Well, under the Sanhedrin authority,
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traditionally people that possessed it, and believed in it and
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read it, who were not of that religion were condemned
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to death and beheaded, which I think Ted Pike, I
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don't know what you think of Ted Pike, but Ted
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Pike pointed that out like 25 years ago in his
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documentaries after nine 11, that that's what was going to
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happen in America. And now you see that there are
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laws that are being introduced. One has already been passed
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by the house where they're going to classify possession of
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the new Testament as being It's a punishable offense. It's
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an anti-Semitic offense.
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It's viewed as anti-Semitic by certain Jews. The New Testament
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is anti-Semitic. And they mention Jews by name, like the
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Jews are after Paul. The Jews took him out. I mean,
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Paul before you, he was Paul, was Saul, and he
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literally took part in the stoning of Stephen. I think
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he was one of the first martyrs, if not the
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first martyr, if my memory serves me correct. But The
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Torah is the first five books of the Old Testament, right?
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That's right, yeah, the original. So there's a war within
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Judaism about the validity of the Tanakh and all these, like...
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And some people even argue that modern Judaism has nothing
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to do with the Old Testament, even though they reference
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it all the time. And it's pretty interesting because even Netanyahu, like,
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references Amalek, but then it's, like, selective... application, because if
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you're talking about Amalek, you're talking about the Tanakh or
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the Old Testament, and then you reject it with your
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rabbinic teachings, like it's, how does this make sense?
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You're totally right. That's a great point. And this doesn't, um,
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for some people, this might sound as if we've gotten
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off topic, but I think it's important to, I don't
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think so, but I know some, some people do tend
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to think that at least on my show, but I,
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I want to address what you're talking about here.
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It's a great point.
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And if you look at the history, this doesn't have
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to be about Judaism. We can bring this back around
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to Eastern philosophy, Eastern religion stuff you wanted to talk about.
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If you look at the history of Judaism, if you
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go back, we'll go from today to a few centuries before.
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So today, Judaism is there's rabbinical, there's orthodox, there's like
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the evangelical sort of Zionist zealots, those kinds of people.
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It's always been that case in every religion, every community.
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There's nothing unique about zealots and people like that. If
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you go back to the 1800s, there's references in the
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Encyclopedia Judaica. There's one on socialism that talks about how
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the majority of the Jewish community gave up Jewish traditions
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and teachings to become and embrace the new religion, which
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was socialism. That's actually in the Encyclopedia Judaica. Not all,
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not all, but many did. They embraced it as the new,
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it's the modern religion was a political system they call socialism. Now,
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if you keep going back, we go back further several centuries,
1116
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you'll find that Judaism was completely unlike what it is today.
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The further you go back, it changes more and more
1118
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and more and more and more. If you go back
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to the time of post- slavery in Egypt. I'm not
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even sure that's really the right way to describe it.
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But if you go back to post-slavery in Egypt, you
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find the Exodus story, which there are many versions of.
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People have different interpretations of when it actually happened, separated
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by centuries. But those Israelites, Hebrews, whatever the proper term is,
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they were a completely different group of people. The embracing
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of monotheism, the Decalogue, that's a completely different type of
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religious system than even what they were just recently when
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they were, quote, captives in Egypt. And before they were
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captives in Egypt, there was a completely different system before that.
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Everything evolves, completely everything. That's just an absolute statement. Everything evolves.
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Some things might stay true, but things evolve, interpretations, perspectives.
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So the Judaism of today is not anything like the
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Judaism of the Exodus was, if you could even call
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it that.
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You have to ask more questions. It's much like Christianity.
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What do you really mean by Christianity? Do you like
1137
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Jim Jones? Do you like Joseph Smith? Do you like Schofield?
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Do you like the KGV? Some people are really anti-King James.
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Somebody in the comments said that all these people are Masons. Yes!
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It's not by random choice that King James Bible came
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out around the time of Shakespeare and Bacon and John Dee. Like,
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You have to see this translation stuff. We live in
1143
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a much more variegated world than maybe people give credit for.
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Some of the terms we use do not take into
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account the multifaceted things of different religions and different outlooks.
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You have to see Christianity as really an outgrowth from Judaism.
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It's a different interpretation, but Christ is constantly referencing the
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Old Testament all the time.
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Well, I think that's because, to my point about the East,
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I think that a lot of that is because the,
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first of all, Jesus comes to enforce the law that
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the priests, that the Jews were not following, which is
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a common theme throughout the Bible. They rejected God, they
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rebelled against God, et cetera. So he comes to.
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Balaam and all that stuff and the golden calf. It just,
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the call for repentance happens over and over and over again.
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So Jesus comes to enforce... or to re-implement the laws that,
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I mean, that's as far as I can understand, that's,
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that's what it says, or it's why he came. So
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that's why he was teaching was to teach people that
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like the stuff's important. But the point is, if you
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go back to prior, prior to the Exodus, the Egyptians had, again,
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to your point, you just brought up another good point,
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the terms that we use, polytheism, today, we use this
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term polytheism often to discredit other quote religions, the Hindus
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or polytheists, et cetera. Well, I don't think that we
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really understand what polytheism is because the Egyptians we might
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call polytheists, but if you read Wallace Budge and other Egyptologists,
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most of them argue that the Egyptians actually were not polytheists.
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I mean, I guess you could technically call them that
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from contemporary definitions. from a contemporary definition, but they had
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different gods that work sort of monotheistic gods within respective city-states.
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So they had a completely different view, and their system
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of religion and philosophy was incredibly complex. When you look
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at Tutankhamen, Tutankhamen, and Akhenaten, they, I think famously, some
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people actually think Akhenaten was Moses, or Moses was Akhenaten, right?
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Exactly.
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Because Akhenaten's teachings were so similar to what Moses would
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later teach. I don't think that he was Moses per se.
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I think it was more so that Moses, who grew
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up in the Egyptian household and was certainly instructed in
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the mystery tradition in some capacity, took that and then
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that's what became Judaism. So what has become sort of
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modern Judaism, or at least how we look back on
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that time period, what became the Israelites and the Jews,
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the monotheistic covenant and the Ten Commandments. this really has
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nothing to do with Christianity. But the point is these
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people absolutely were more than influenced. I would argue that
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they just straight up lifted. They straight up five finger
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discounted straight up plagiarized what was in Egypt, because it's
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one thing to say, I was inspired by X and
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that's why I wrote where I believe this. It's another
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thing to claim. Actually, we just invented all of this. When, Obviously,
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they did not invent monotheism. They did not invent the
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Ten Commandments, the Code of Ma'at, the Pyramid Text, the
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Coming Forth by Day. This stuff far predated the Jews.
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And the same thing with Babylon, the story of the flood,
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the story of the Tree of Life. All of that
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far predates the Torah. All that far predates Genesis. That
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doesn't undermine the validity of it. It just means that
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to tell people that all of this is like, it
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was first created by this one little group of people
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is false. The Code of Hammurabi predates the Decalogue. And that's,
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I'm getting to this point because if we go further east,
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you can find the teachings of Laozi. You can find
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the teachings of Chinese philosophers. You can find the practices,
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the philosophies, the religious beliefs of people in the east,
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including the Buddhists came out of India 500 years before Christ.
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And it's, essentially the same archetypical story that would later
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become the Christ story. Now, when people argue that, they
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often argue that to undermine the foundation of Christianity.
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I don't.
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I argue it to show that Christianity is part of
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a longstanding tradition. Some people you can interpret it as
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having more value than others, but I think it's part
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of a longstanding tradition. And I think much of this stuff,
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I know most of this stuff does not come from
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a group of people in the Middle East. This, a
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lot of this stuff I think comes from the far East,
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the very far East.
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There's arguments that christ in missing time is in the
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east and a lot of confucian teachings are very conformed
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very conformed with christian teachings guys it really is very
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it's go read confucius i can't remember the exact dates
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of those teachings but like there's a lot the miracles
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aren't there like that's one of the things about christianity
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is these miracles and dreams and the resurrection, but there's
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a lot of the morality. It's very similar to Buddhism, too,
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in a lot of ways. The Tao, the way, these
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are not antagonistic, in my opinion. But some Christians would
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be like, oh, that's all pagan, and these people are all,
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they cast all the wisdom out. But Christ himself said
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wisdom is justified by himself. And we shared a lot
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of wisdom tonight, Ryan, or today. I know that you
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have another interview in a few minutes. We're at the
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hour and 15-minute mark. And we had 175 live listeners. Thanks, everybody.
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If you have any questions, put it in the chat. But, Ryan,
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is there anything? I mean, I could do probably 10
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episodes with you. We barely scratched the surface of your
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very well-researched books. Guys, these are all footnoted. They're all
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like 400 or 500 pages. So check them out. Check
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out his website. I'm showing it here. Again, the full
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website is thesecretteachings.info. So check that out. Is that the
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01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:47.579
best place to reach you, Ryan?
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01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:53.800
Yes, or you can just type TST radio is another
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01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:57.020
way to find the website. A little bit simpler, but yeah, thesecretteachings.info.
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There's my email on there. I'll give that to you
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as well.
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R.D.
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Gable, like Clark Gable, the actor. R.D. Gable, 1991 at gmail.com
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if you'd like to email me. But yeah, everything is
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on the website there. I have another 15 minutes if
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you'd like.
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To ask questions. If anybody has any questions, please put
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them into the chat. Say your email again, rdgable1919, did
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you say? 1991.
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I'll put that.
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In the show notes too. At gmail.com? Correct, yes. What
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are your thoughts on the Schofield Bible? I've seen it around,
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bandied around on social media recently. What's your take? Do
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you feel like that's a, uh, kind of a tainted record? Yes.
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And when I went to research that for my newest book, I,
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it took me a while to find the original skull
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filled page, but I found a copy of it where
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I actually got the quote with the footnote or the
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footnote with the quote about what, uh, this particular verse,
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this one line in Genesis actually means about blessing those
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bless Israel. Um, When I found that and I stuck
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it in my new book, I realized that I think
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that even some of the anti-Scofield argument and philosophy, people
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that like, it's just Scofield, Scofield. I think it's almost
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equivalent to the pro-Scofield people in the sense that like
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the whole Bible for the pro-Scofield people is whether they
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know it's Scofield or not, the pro, bless these people,
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you'll be blessed. The whole argument is based on, the
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whole Bible is reduced to one sentence in the old Testament,
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the whole thing, which is just insane. And I think
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the anti skull filled view, which I'm not opposed to
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because I don't agree with the literalist interpretation of that
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and the extrapolation to a nation state. But I think
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it's a very similar thing because they're reduced, likewise reducing
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the whole of the skull filled Bible to one sentence.
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And it wasn't just, it didn't publish one page. It
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was an entire text and, I guess in both cases,
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we're sort of throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
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if you will, and not really understanding maybe that there's
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more context to it. At least that's my view.
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What's your take as somebody who practices Shintoism? What's your
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take on the Schofield Bible? I mean, do you feel
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like he was authentically trying to have some form of
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integrity to the original? Because I heard the dude was
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a rogue, like he was, his personal life was not
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in conformance. with Christian teachings? I mean, what's your thoughts?
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Well, I wouldn't be able to answer it from the
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point of view of a Shintoist, but the, uh, in terms,
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in terms of who he was as a person, I've heard,
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I've heard what you're referencing. I, I feel like anytime
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something for better or worse becomes the thing, like with
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the King James Bible or with the Schofield Bible, the
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thing that a bunch of people attach themselves to, I
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don't necessarily think it's a conspiracy, but I get very,
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very suspicious. I get suspicious that it suddenly is a
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talking point or it suddenly is popular. I know Scofield's
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been around for a century or so.
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Ted Cruz referenced that that was his religion. That's why
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we should support Israel. So it's like political policy is
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based on some of these statements. Yes. Yes. No, no,
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it totally is. It absolutely is.
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I guess my, my answer to your question would be,
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I think what, Schofield is like with even King James,
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it's kind of in a, in a sense, not literally,
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but in a sense neutral. I mean, obviously I don't
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think the motivation for it was neutral. I think there
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was a bias, but it's neutral in the sense that
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nobody really would know about it on average until it's
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brought to the public's attention. And then suddenly it was like,
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Oh yeah, we've got to bless these people.
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Correct. I would a hundred percent agree with that. You'd
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never hear that in a church. I'm kind of fortunate
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because I grew up in Catholic church and then my
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wife's Protestant. So I go to a Protestant church. So I,
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I hear her, you know, variations from Christianity, almost some
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of the stuff you just never hear that's in the Bible.
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And then once people are saying it for political reasons,
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you're like, gotta be a little bit suspicious. I mean,
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I think, I think that's part of the whole Zionist
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program too, is to justify everything in religious terms, whatever
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it's going to be. You talked about black goo in
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the first, the first, your first book, Somebody's a demented
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puppies asking about the black goo. It's around there. It's
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in films and it's in media and it's in, I
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think some of these comic books to this whole notion
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of black goo. Do you mind covering that a little bit? Yeah, sure.
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So black goo, there's a bunch of different types of
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black goo and let's, Let's define this. So there's the
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kind of black goo that is the pop culture secret
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space program, science fiction, fabricated, admittedly fake stuff, if you
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follow that stuff.
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Mr.
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Corey Goode has admitted that the whole secret space program was,
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he imagined it all, it's all made up. Not that
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there isn't one, but that his version was fake.
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He said that in a recorded deposition. So that's very telling.
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It wasn't just like a casual... having a beer at
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a bar or something like that. He literally said it
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was from a book. Sorry. Yeah. He made it up.
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It's all his intellectual property. So, which if you're interested
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in that as a listener, I've covered that probably longer
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than anybody who is not involved in the lawsuit. I've
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been covering that for over a decade plus.
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Interesting. Well, we could talk about that. Cause I covered
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it too with Joe from the Carolinas. One of my earliest.
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Oh my God. Yeah. Do you remember Joe? Yeah. I
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still have it in my record guys. he dropped off.
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I think he got really intimidated by some of the
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goodites or whatever, but Corey good is a story in himself.
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And it's just one aspect of the, uh, UFO hucksterism.
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It's kind of a version of the Patriot that, uh,
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Visigoth used to talk about. He was always critiquing these
1360
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guys like Joe, but UFO, uh, lore had its own
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and this poor guy who, uh, decided to leave this room, uh,
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by his own hand. I can't remember. Was it David Wilcox? Yeah.
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So these, that is another story.
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If anybody's interested in learning more about that, I just
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interviewed or had more of a conversation with a gentleman
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who's been covering this. I did a show this week.
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It's in my archive called Good and Plenty of Lies.
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Who was the guy you interviewed?
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I talked with Perry from Hidden in Plain Sight. He's
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been covering these people for 2017 i think so i
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just uh if you scroll up there on the website
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to the top and click the as a pack one
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it'll show you the the picture there on the bottom
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left oh sorry uh and then you'll see the promo
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from monday.
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Yeah the blue chickens wow.
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Yeah so so anyway the the black goo the black
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goo is um i mentioned that good story because there's
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a guy named James Rink who also passed away and
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he was, he thought he was a super soldier. And
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I actually sat next to him at a conference, uh,
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at a, on a panel. And he was actually a
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nice guy. I think he was very, very naive and
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very delusional. But he, when I mentioned black goo in
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this context, he leans over to me after he's like,
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Oh yeah, I know about the black goo. There's also
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pink goo and green goo and red goo and yellow.
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I've seen all the goos. He was, he was called
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the goo guy. He was very much into goo. But
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the black goo, let's let's look at this from a
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more like a more rational point of view, let's call it. Yes,
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black goo is referenced. It is shown. It is talked
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about in a huge variety of film.
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And movies.
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In some cases, it's not the same kind of supernatural, magical,
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occult black goo that the listener who asked that question
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is probably thinking about. So if you watch Ferngully, for example,
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the black goo just, I think, references or symbolizes, rather, pollution.
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So it's like having black rain and you have black
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01:19:14.090 --> 01:19:17.430
rain that's caused by pollution. It's charcoal or coal or
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01:19:17.470 --> 01:19:19.829
something like that in the, in the atmosphere, in the air.
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01:19:20.489 --> 01:19:24.029
So there's that, but black goo in a, in a
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01:19:24.229 --> 01:19:25.479
more esoteric sense.
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Yes.
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01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:29.579
If you watch the X files famously, the black goo
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01:19:29.779 --> 01:19:32.939
is what it's an oil, but it's what the alien
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01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.319
virus or this alien organism uses to, to move itself
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01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:38.000
about and it's how it invests people.
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01:19:38.060 --> 01:19:38.239
Right.
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01:19:39.619 --> 01:19:44.600
You find the exact same idea in the alien franchise.
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01:19:45.539 --> 01:19:48.590
And there's a good representation of it in, I think
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01:19:48.649 --> 01:19:50.609
Prometheus is the prequel.
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01:19:50.970 --> 01:19:54.489
Yes. That's right. Because the, he touches it at the
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01:19:54.510 --> 01:19:58.109
very beginning. Yeah. David, the Android. Yes.
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01:19:58.409 --> 01:20:01.390
He touches the, because he's trying to create a new, his,
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01:20:01.710 --> 01:20:04.170
he has his own motivation to create like a new
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01:20:04.270 --> 01:20:06.989
human race and to rule over them as a God.
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01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.050
And that's kind of how the movie starts with the embryos, right?
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01:20:10.909 --> 01:20:12.949
Yes, I think that's right. And then he sprays the
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01:20:12.989 --> 01:20:17.789
black goo on this unwitting populace. If I remember that
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01:20:17.850 --> 01:20:20.729
and they all transform or something happens. Yes.
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01:20:20.789 --> 01:20:23.829
So the engineers, I mean, it's called Prometheus. He brings
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01:20:23.890 --> 01:20:25.449
fire from the gods that he stole.
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01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:26.310
He brings it to man.
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01:20:26.420 --> 01:20:29.520
But by the way, SpaceX, I think they just erected
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01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:32.199
a giant Promethean statue at one of the star bases,
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01:20:32.220 --> 01:20:35.789
if I recall correctly. So the Prometheus movie, it's a
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01:20:35.850 --> 01:20:40.050
good symbolic representation of what black goo is in pop culture,
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01:20:40.149 --> 01:20:42.760
maybe even more so than the X-Files, because it's like
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01:20:42.779 --> 01:20:47.720
a central theme that's technically described in Prometheus, where they
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01:20:47.739 --> 01:20:51.720
describe it as being an engineered substance that is used
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01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:56.289
to create life, or it can be used to destroy life.
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01:20:56.970 --> 01:20:59.890
So when David brings the engineer ship back to the
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engineer planet, some people call it, maybe call them the Nephilim,
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01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:05.920
but the engineer planet, he drops the black goo canisters.
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01:21:05.979 --> 01:21:08.560
It's like a, it's a bio weapons, an agent, and
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01:21:08.579 --> 01:21:11.760
it spirals down in the form of DNA. And then
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01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.789
it just completely annihilates all life on the planet. And
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01:21:15.829 --> 01:21:18.949
then when the, the Prometheus crew arrives on the planet,
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01:21:18.970 --> 01:21:22.729
they realize there's no, there's no sound, there's no insects,
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01:21:22.770 --> 01:21:26.930
there's no animals. It's like nothing is alive. But underneath
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01:21:26.970 --> 01:21:30.869
of everything, there's these little black spores. So this one
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01:21:30.909 --> 01:21:33.289
guy steps on like a mushroom or something like a
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01:21:33.329 --> 01:21:37.090
mushroom and the spores come out. It's almost like a
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01:21:37.189 --> 01:21:41.199
nanotech because even the sound of it, it's very electronic.
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01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:43.439
It gets into the guy's ear and then it transforms
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01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:44.920
him and turns him into a monster.
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01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:49.659
So that, I think... it's black goo.
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01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.000
But then it sort of transforms in the movie to
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01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.399
like smart dust, which is a very, I don't know
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01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.520
the full scale application of that, but you, you see
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01:21:57.579 --> 01:22:01.520
Berkeley has, has a whole page on smart dust. They
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01:22:01.539 --> 01:22:04.779
call it, it's like a nano. I think it's called
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01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:09.060
nano cuticles where it's, it's, it's nano size and you
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01:22:09.090 --> 01:22:11.649
breathe it in and it can, it attaches to your organs.
1456
01:22:11.710 --> 01:22:14.789
It can give real time readouts of like your heart
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01:22:14.850 --> 01:22:18.630
rate or your breathing and your other organs. organs in
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01:22:18.649 --> 01:22:21.890
the body so it kind of becomes that and then
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01:22:21.930 --> 01:22:25.069
it's it's very similar what ray kerswell talked about so
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01:22:25.090 --> 01:22:27.470
we're mixing like science fiction with things that are very
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01:22:27.550 --> 01:22:30.710
real so ray kerswell of google has talked about how
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01:22:30.729 --> 01:22:36.369
they want to infuse everything he said rocks trees everything
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01:22:36.510 --> 01:22:41.109
with smart dust which is very much like prometheus where
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01:22:41.180 --> 01:22:44.689
literally everything is infused with this black substance or what
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01:22:44.710 --> 01:22:46.569
would be with the black goo that transformed it in
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01:22:46.609 --> 01:22:49.619
a sense into this like digital, uh, sort of, um,
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01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:52.239
I don't know if you call it a parasite or
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01:22:52.260 --> 01:22:55.800
it's just like an evolutionary, uh, thing. Cause it's made,
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01:22:55.819 --> 01:22:59.380
I think in the movie is it's like Prometheus is
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01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:01.920
a prequel. So it shows like the blending of the
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01:23:02.020 --> 01:23:06.659
engineer's DNA at the end with the alien that comes
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01:23:06.779 --> 01:23:09.319
out of, of the, the main girl. So it's like
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01:23:09.420 --> 01:23:14.100
human DNA, uh, And this bioweapon mixed with the alien DNA,
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01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.859
put it all together and you get this perfect creature.
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01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:21.670
You know, you get the xenomorph. So so there's that angle.
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01:23:21.770 --> 01:23:24.569
And then you can find it in it's it's used
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01:23:24.590 --> 01:23:28.890
in a very similar way in the movie District 9.
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01:23:28.890 --> 01:23:31.350
It's like a bio agent. And the guy gets he
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01:23:31.510 --> 01:23:33.590
accidentally sprays himself with it in the movie. And then
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01:23:33.649 --> 01:23:37.250
he I think he grows an alien arm, which allows
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01:23:37.289 --> 01:23:40.130
him to use their guns because they're like bio specific guns.
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01:23:40.750 --> 01:23:45.630
So again, science fiction, but symbolically, a lot of this stuff,
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01:23:45.770 --> 01:23:49.390
it's talked about by Kurzweil. It's talked about by Google.
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01:23:49.409 --> 01:23:52.369
It's talked about by UC Berkeley even. So all of
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01:23:52.409 --> 01:23:56.489
this stuff, yes, it's science fiction, but there's something to it.
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01:23:57.029 --> 01:24:01.079
There's also something like a literal black goo. I can
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01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:05.680
send you the link to this. Last August, I just
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01:24:05.699 --> 01:24:08.520
sent you the link. Last August, there was a ship
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01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:11.699
called the Blue Heron. which was in the Great Lakes.
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01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:16.180
It's like a research vessel. I think it was on
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01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:21.039
the rudder of the ship. They found a black tar-like substance. Now,
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01:24:21.100 --> 01:24:25.659
these are like professionals, so I would assume that you
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01:24:25.699 --> 01:24:28.619
find all kinds of gross stuff on ships, but they
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01:24:28.659 --> 01:24:31.579
didn't know what this substance was, so they had it analyzed.
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01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:35.779
In the original report that I had read, And I
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01:24:35.819 --> 01:24:37.439
think it's in the CNN story I sent you. It
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01:24:37.460 --> 01:24:39.930
says the scientists were surprised to find that the material
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01:24:40.060 --> 01:24:44.350
was teeming with life forms, some of which were unknown microorganisms.
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01:24:44.750 --> 01:24:45.109
Wow.
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That's the second or third paragraph on your screen there.
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01:24:49.689 --> 01:24:56.590
Scroll down. Scientists were surprised too. So that, I mean,
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01:24:56.609 --> 01:25:00.250
that is basically, it's probably just garbage and gunk, but
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01:25:00.710 --> 01:25:03.960
that's kind of, I mean, unknown organisms. That's kind of
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01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:08.189
what the black goo is portrayed as. And then if
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01:25:08.229 --> 01:25:13.329
you were to ask Harold Kotzvella, I believe is how
1506
01:25:13.350 --> 01:25:15.899
you pronounce his last name, who I've been sort of
1507
01:25:15.939 --> 01:25:19.239
friendly with for years, he talks about black goo as
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01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:22.119
being a literal thing. He talks about it more in a,
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01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.920
some people don't like him and think that he's just
1510
01:25:25.939 --> 01:25:29.550
a fraud or something, but Harold describes it and has,
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01:25:29.850 --> 01:25:34.180
I think he's even shown demonstrations of, like real black goo.
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01:25:34.220 --> 01:25:36.340
He talks about it coming. I don't want to get
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01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:38.140
his research wrong, but he, I think he talks about
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01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:41.720
it coming from like a meteor, which I don't know
1515
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:44.489
if that was, maybe that was inspired by Spider-Man and
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01:25:44.550 --> 01:25:46.890
Venom because Venom is like black goo. It's like a
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01:25:46.949 --> 01:25:50.930
symbiote that comes from space to earth. There's, I mean,
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01:25:50.970 --> 01:25:52.590
even in men in black, you see that kind of
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01:25:52.630 --> 01:25:55.310
an idea. I mean, if it is alien, if it's
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01:25:55.430 --> 01:25:59.960
extraterrestrial in any sense, it probably came here on some
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01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.130
kind of space debris. Others argue that it's like the
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01:26:04.189 --> 01:26:07.229
lifeblood of the earth. Like the oil of the earth
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01:26:07.289 --> 01:26:10.829
is the lifeblood of earth that we use for energy.
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01:26:10.850 --> 01:26:13.630
And maybe this black goo is part of that. I
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01:26:13.670 --> 01:26:17.439
don't really know. Some argue that it's like very, I
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01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:20.659
don't know what the science behind this would be if
1527
01:26:20.699 --> 01:26:23.500
I'm using the right word, but it's like crystalline in nature.
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01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.899
So it's like cells, which is what it was in Prometheus.
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01:26:26.939 --> 01:26:29.140
It was the building blocks of life in this substance
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01:26:29.180 --> 01:26:32.859
that was put into the water. I don't know, but
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01:26:33.779 --> 01:26:37.000
it could be also that Hollywood has all of this
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01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:41.079
stuff because it's part of maybe an old religious type
1533
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:44.420
belief system, like the gods came to Earth, they brought
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01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.560
with them life, they created mankind. Not the god, but
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01:26:47.619 --> 01:26:51.119
the gods, plural. Some people argue that it's part of
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01:26:52.659 --> 01:26:55.510
an elitist religion, a belief system, and that's why they
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01:26:55.529 --> 01:26:58.170
put it in movies, because it's a revelation of the method.
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01:26:58.510 --> 01:27:01.210
I don't know, but that's, that's sort of a general
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01:27:01.250 --> 01:27:02.189
background on black goo.
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01:27:03.710 --> 01:27:06.529
It's there. It's in the, I mean, it's in cartoons.
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01:27:06.569 --> 01:27:09.869
People send me stuff of these like cartoons. The interesting
1542
01:27:09.909 --> 01:27:12.229
thing is like a lot of these Marvel cartoons and
1543
01:27:12.289 --> 01:27:16.210
they integrate all kinds of the cold ideas. Tesseract spelled
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01:27:16.270 --> 01:27:20.680
black goos, smiley faces are all over the suicide squad and,
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01:27:21.699 --> 01:27:24.220
and watchmen and all this stuff. So all these occult
1546
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:31.289
symbols are, or esoteric symbols are, ubiquitous and they're not explained.
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01:27:31.649 --> 01:27:34.289
Like nobody's really explained why they use the smiley face,
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01:27:34.329 --> 01:27:37.140
but it's, it shows up all the time. But I
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01:27:37.180 --> 01:27:39.600
think it's something that you learn if you're initiated, maybe
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01:27:39.659 --> 01:27:41.039
black goo is one of those as well.
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01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.619
You know, what's interesting is that living overseas and living from,
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01:27:45.699 --> 01:27:49.800
from America and living in a country that is very
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01:27:49.859 --> 01:27:53.020
first world. In fact, I think Japan's probably more first
1554
01:27:53.060 --> 01:27:55.829
world than the United States is in a lot of ways. Uh,
1555
01:27:55.890 --> 01:27:59.119
but a country that's very, um, It's not a third
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01:27:59.149 --> 01:28:03.470
world country, put it that way. And seeing how society functions,
1557
01:28:03.550 --> 01:28:06.170
which is a whole nother subject, it functions well and
1558
01:28:06.569 --> 01:28:09.750
how it should on average, I think, generally speaking, it
1559
01:28:10.029 --> 01:28:13.170
functions like it should. But within all that, when you
1560
01:28:13.210 --> 01:28:16.460
look at the media over here, there's some stuff that's
1561
01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:19.899
like weird to the sensibilities of Americans, just like there's
1562
01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.239
some American things that are weird to the sensibility of Japanese.
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01:28:22.739 --> 01:28:25.960
But you don't actually see a lot of this stuff
1564
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:27.399
in the media over here.
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01:28:28.409 --> 01:28:32.439
But you see the occultism or esotericism or something. Yes.
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01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:36.510
Over here, everything is they call it Kauai culture. Everything's
1567
01:28:36.550 --> 01:28:41.119
about being cute. So you see that you don't see the,
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01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:46.899
I mean, quite frankly, American media has just become porn and, uh,
1569
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:50.699
violence and like everything is porn and violence and gambling.
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01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:53.319
You don't, I mean, there's gambling over here is a
1571
01:28:53.340 --> 01:28:56.500
huge thing, but Pachinko, but it's not like the stuff's
1572
01:28:56.619 --> 01:28:57.060
not in.
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01:28:57.340 --> 01:29:02.409
Draft Kings and, uh, You can bet on anything here now.
1574
01:29:03.090 --> 01:29:07.850
You literally can bet on like whatever political events, whatever
1575
01:29:07.869 --> 01:29:13.140
you want. It's crazy. That Polly market. Polly market on Axios.
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01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:17.920
There's another one out there too, but yeah, I mean,
1577
01:29:17.939 --> 01:29:20.119
that's a whole nother show. People should go to Japan
1578
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:23.300
and see what a real functioning country looks like because
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01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:25.760
the here, I mean, I live in LA and, And
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01:29:25.819 --> 01:29:28.180
it's a dump. It's like a second or third world country.
1581
01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:31.819
And some parts are fourth world. It's really gone. I mean,
1582
01:29:31.899 --> 01:29:36.720
it devolves. Civilizations are not static. You're either moving up
1583
01:29:36.779 --> 01:29:40.640
or down. And the U.S. is headed. It's regressing. It's
1584
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:46.079
absolutely unbelievable. Rapidly, too. It's happening fast. Wait till we
1585
01:29:46.100 --> 01:29:48.859
default on our loans. If we can't pay that debt, guys,
1586
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.260
it's over. You're talking Mad Max. I mean, already with
1587
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:55.369
the gas prices and energy prices and everything. People are
1588
01:29:55.390 --> 01:29:59.449
going to get angry, but it's great.
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01:29:59.829 --> 01:30:02.689
Keep an eye on Japan, too, because Japan, it's not China.
1590
01:30:02.710 --> 01:30:04.869
I always thought it was China, but Japan actually owns
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01:30:05.409 --> 01:30:08.090
more U.S. debt than any other country. They own the
1592
01:30:08.130 --> 01:30:08.829
majority of U.S.
1593
01:30:08.869 --> 01:30:09.109
Debt.
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01:30:10.069 --> 01:30:13.130
So if they sell that off, which has been an
1595
01:30:13.210 --> 01:30:16.890
issue recently, economic circles, they've been talking about Japan selling
1596
01:30:16.909 --> 01:30:19.489
a lot of that debt off. It could really cause
1597
01:30:20.229 --> 01:30:21.850
issues with everything.
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01:30:22.810 --> 01:30:29.760
World havoc. Because everything will just change. If the money
1599
01:30:29.819 --> 01:30:33.579
inflates even more, it's like, whoa. It's weird, too, because
1600
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:37.109
we're on almost like a suicide spiral here in the U.S.
1601
01:30:37.170 --> 01:30:40.989
where nobody's doing anything to save anything. So it's just like,
1602
01:30:42.649 --> 01:30:44.250
loot as much as you can and get as much
1603
01:30:44.270 --> 01:30:45.630
as you can in scam culture.
1604
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:50.520
That's a good way to word it, scam culture.
1605
01:30:50.539 --> 01:30:53.119
Scam culture now, in one generation, it's turned into just
1606
01:30:53.260 --> 01:30:57.689
one giant scam culture. And you can't function as a
1607
01:30:57.710 --> 01:31:00.670
society like that where everybody's just trying to get the
1608
01:31:00.789 --> 01:31:04.710
shortest term gains from scamming and stealing. And I mean,
1609
01:31:04.810 --> 01:31:06.970
most of that debt, trillions of dollars in debt is
1610
01:31:07.710 --> 01:31:10.010
from scams. So it's sad to say COVID was just
1611
01:31:10.130 --> 01:31:13.220
one big scam. Anyway, Ryan, where can people find you?
1612
01:31:13.260 --> 01:31:16.760
This is your website. TST Radio is it, right? That's it.
1613
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:22.199
And it's thesecretteachings.info. And you've got one, two, three, four,
1614
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:23.699
five books at least, right?
1615
01:31:24.659 --> 01:31:27.449
Yeah, I sell about four of them officially now. Yeah,
1616
01:31:27.470 --> 01:31:28.609
but I've written a couple of others.
1617
01:31:30.710 --> 01:31:34.579
And the full name is Ryan Daniel Gable, G-A-B-L-E. Is
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01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:36.500
there anything else you'd like to add or anything amiss?
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01:31:36.539 --> 01:31:39.109
When can people see that Corey good episode?
1620
01:31:39.930 --> 01:31:41.630
Uh, they can, they can listen to it on the
1621
01:31:41.670 --> 01:31:45.090
website for free. There are ads in it from Spreaker,
1622
01:31:45.310 --> 01:31:47.590
or if you're a subscriber, you can get access to
1623
01:31:47.609 --> 01:31:51.420
the ad free version. That particular episode though, is actually
1624
01:31:51.500 --> 01:31:54.960
on our YouTube page, TST radio official. And there's a
1625
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.579
link to that on the website as well. Uh, anything
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else to add? I could probably talk to you for
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another 10 episodes at least. Um, I'll put it, I'll
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put it this way to, to, to, uh, support your
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statement about scam culture. Uh, this is a personal story.
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I've had, I've always had issues with like really dry skin,
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no matter where I lived, hot weather in Florida, humid
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weather in Florida or dry weather up in Idaho, always
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had issues with skin problems. And then I, I come
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to Japan and suddenly my skin problem, my issue starts
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to go away. And I think it's because of the water.
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And then I, I had tried lotions and creams and
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all this stuff. Nothing worked. I'm not promoting a product.
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I'm not even going to tell you the name of it,
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but I came over here. I tried a Japanese made
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product for the problem that I have with my dry skin.
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It's not horrible, but my dry skin. And suddenly every
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problem I've had my entire life with my skin evaporated
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after like three uses of this Japanese product. So I
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started realizing with other things as well. It's not that
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there was something wrong with me. It was that the
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products that were sold, the things that I was told,
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all of it almost, maybe not all of it, but
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almost all of it was a lie. Everything in our
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society in America is sabotaged, is undermined, is part of
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scam culture. I try one thing made in Japan over
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here to do what it says it's supposed to do,
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and it actually does it. I'm still shocked by that.
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It's the whole health system. It's just one giant scam, guys.
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Everything is a freaking scam. I wouldn't trust your doctor
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at all or your anything. I mean, you'd probably be
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healthier to figure it out yourself and go to your doctor.
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And your politicians are all liars too. It's terrible. And
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they're not there to help you. They're all trying to
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get as much money as they can as fast as
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possible too. Like they all know something's not good.
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Alexander Heitler had said that. I think he was a
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Scottish teacher, professor. He had said that the system only
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works as long as people don't realize or it only
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works to the point that people do realize that they
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can vote for themselves, largesse, out of the public treasury.
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And once they figure that out, everybody scrambles to get
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as much as they can before the whole system collapses.
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Yeah. Well, every fiat currency ends up in value of zero,
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so it's just a matter of time. But great to
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talk with you. Let's do it again soon. Again, the
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guest is Ryan Gable, G-A-B-L-E, website, thesecretteachings.info. And the podcast
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is TST Radio. And so check it out and I
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will put that in the show notes. So thanks a
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lot for your time. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you for
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having me on. I'd love to do it again.