When Suspects Try Seducing Police Officers

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Criminals often use many violent and dangerous methods to try
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and escape police custody. But what happens when suspects try
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to seduce and flirt with cops to avoid a jail sentence.
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I'm good, Well, check me on here, I like men.
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Come on.
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Here are seven examples of when suspects try to seduce cops,
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starting with arguably the most shocking. A nineteen year old
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girl was seen weaving between lanes and throwing unknown items
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out of the window. Officers immediately thought this was suspicious
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and pulled her over for a chat. Hey, how's it going, Hi.
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It's hard.
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You said you were coming from Dancers. The driver states
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that she's a stripper at a bar called Dancers, and
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that she was texting her boyfriend, who was home with
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her kids. However, the officers noticed something off about the driver.
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Her speech was slightly slurred and her eyes were glazed over.
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There's a good chance this girl's been drinking.
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What times eleven eleven?
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It's an hour and a half away.
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You let off at eleven, it's ten twenty three right now?
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Really, did you have anything to drink? Oh? I'm nineteen,
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I cannot drink.
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I just took nothing, nothing.
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No, Are you sure don't get on my eyelashes?
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Bro the light? Your eyelashes? No, that they've fallen off
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from the light.
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Despite the girl's claims, the officers are fairly sure she's
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had at least something to drink last night, especially when
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she seems to forget the time completely, so they ask
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her to step out of the vehicle and perform a
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few sobriety tests.
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Well, hold on, this is we're gonna start cold. We're
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gonna start right here, all right, Are you we any?
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Do you wear any glasses or contacts?
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I do you do?
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Are you wearing contacts right now?
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No?
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No? Okay, You're gonna for me in the straight line
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and I'll be gone.
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Well that's not even I haven't even told you that.
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She says that I'm doing it.
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So you gotta cold.
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Okay, give me, just give me ten minutes of your time.
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Okay, okay, you're a straight line.
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You're doing your copper.
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Hold on, I didn't tell you that's what we're gonna do.
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I know, but I know how the police is.
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Despite her enthusiasm to begin the tests, she doesn't exactly
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pass them with flying colors, and after losing her balance.
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On the final test, she's placed under arrest by the officers,
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but that's not where the story ends for her. On
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the way back to the patrol vehicle, she mentions that
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there are in fact weapons in her car, and her
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behavior starts to change drastically.
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Rock and Tech me, I don't care if I'm a male, bouy.
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We got plenty of female officers around you.
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I'm well, check me on here.
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So I'm giving authorizations to search?
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Why not?
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I give you authorization too, I'm not going to do that.
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Wow, I like men.
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Come on.
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Well.
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The cops maintained that they couldn't search her, they did
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take the time to search her vehicle. Inside they found
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multiple guns a large stack of cash, though it was
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decided this was likely just tips from the bar. However,
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she was still charged with duy and sentenced to nine
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months probation. Despite also being underage, it was fairly difficult
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for the cops to judge if this girl was drunk
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or not. However, this next girl didn't show the same
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amount of class, instead resorting to manipulate and trick the
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cop into letting her go.
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Hello, he you doing Halter hot a New Mexico, SA.
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Please suson for the stop. You're going fifty five back
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there on MLK, Yeah, fifty five. I was right behind
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you the whole time. Then you just honestly booked it.
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I had a bad night.
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The girl that I thought that were my friends, I'm
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not my friends. I'm sorry to hear that. Where are
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you coming from?
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Knock Out?
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Knockouts?
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This girl doesn't seem to be having the best night,
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but that still doesn't explain why she was driving twenty
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five miles an hour over the speed limit on a
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residential road. She also mentions that she came from a
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place called Knockouts, a gentleman's club, that could explain the
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sparkly outfit and why she was driving so erratically.
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Your license, you.
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Can do the bullshit?
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Yeah, my registration. Do you have a jacket or something
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that you could put on? Do you have a jacket
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or anything?
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A jacket?
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Yeah? I k in the car. No, why because I'm
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gonna ask you to step out that way? We could
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talk out here.
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I don't have anything.
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The girl seems to be upset about a disagreement with
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her friends back at the bar, but this officer isn't
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buying it. There's many examples of suspects pretending to be
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sad or distressed during a traffic stop to try and
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get sympathy from the cops and walk away with a
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lighter sentence. This can work in some circumstances, but it
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doesn't excuse driving at almost twice the speed limits. But
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this doesn't stop the girl from trying. After she steps
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out of the car.
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Okay, with my registration, I can my progressive. It just
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sounds yeah. Tells me that she is my friendly.
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She's not.
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Okay, let's go back over here.
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I'm moving next week and my friend said that she's
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my friend, but she's not.
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Yeah, could you stand up street?
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Yeah?
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All right? So how much? Howco are you consume? No,
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I haven't nothin.
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I smoke weed.
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I have my medical card if you want to see it,
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I have that.
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But I mean I've been smoking because I'm mad. Yeah,
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you're mad? No, what I mean? Like, okay, just try
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to calm down a little bit. So you're gonna say
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that you haven't concerned no alcohol. To be honest with me,
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how havenots outs? Honestly, that's the way I feel. The girl,
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she's my backet ship.
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You know what I mean? No, matter how hard the
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cop tries to keep the girl on topic, she keeps
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breaking down and talking about her friendship issues. After some
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more printing by the officer, she admits to smoking marijuana
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and alcohol back at the club, but she keeps trying
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to excuse it by saying she's having a rough night
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and that's her way of dealing with it. Unfortunately for her, though,
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the officer needs her to focus, which she seems to
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be having a tough time doing throughout the sobriety tests.
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All right, this way right here, I'm gonna move my
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unit back just a little bit. And uh, I got
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two more tests in ad Minister, you feel okay walking
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in those shoes, it means I'm just fucking upset. That's it.
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You get upset. I'm just sucking at that sos, Miss ramost.
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My main concern is just that your SATs are drive okay.
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Obviously you are ratually get it troubling at a hi
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rate a speed up. Okay, kids, okay, my baby daddy
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just die. I'm sorry to hear that said.
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I just said that it's.
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Just a lot fun too.
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By its fun too.
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Unfortunately for the girl, though complaining to the officer didn't
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seem to sober her up at all, and she failed
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all three of her sobriety tests, so all that was
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left was for her to be arrested, fitting in for
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what appeared to be a pretty rough night for her.
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All right, So at this point, you're gonna be placed
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under arrest for DWI driving all in films, tuxiing, and
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liquorando or drugs. Just facing real quick. What's in your mouth?
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Nothing?
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Open it? Why trunk? All right? So on my watch
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zero two thirteen.
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Okay, But Kelly Barton made it a little easier for
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the cops. Not only was she seen crashing into a
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lamppost while transporting a special needs patient, but when police arrived,
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she was looking a little worse for wear.
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Kelly, Yes, how are you doing?
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Kelly admits that she had too much to drink that evening,
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but doesn't admit to driving, despite it being her job.
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Unfortunately for her, though, security camera footage from the gas
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station proves that she was in fact behind the wheel
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and is now facing charges of both duy and neglect
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due to the responsibility she carried while driving with the patient,
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but as an ambulance pulls up to perform some tests
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on her, Kelly reveals that she has another trick up
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her sleeve and begins repeatedly flirting with all of the
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officers at the scene.
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Look at you, so you want to light spool the
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track man?
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Let go what they gotta do? Come my boys, Hey, hey,
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I want the little young boys.
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Ask me how I'm feeling.
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Let the little young point.
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Let me tast something. What I would do to you
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with your blue check the bus?
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Okay, look at him.
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I would do him in a way that he won't
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leave fit.
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Hey, look, they can look tough.
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Holly won't Why.
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Don't let me get it?
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After multiple tests, it's clear to the officers that Kelly
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was way over the legal limits and is arrested for
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driving well intoxicated, and after struggling to get her into
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the police vehicle, she sent on her way to the
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police station. But if you think Kelly was bold for
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talking to cops like that, eighteen year old Skylar Flus
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is on a completely different level, going so far as
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to post this video to thousands of people, bragging about
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how she got away with the DUI. I got out
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of a duy and got let off with a warning.
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Skyler was pulled over after an officer saw her weaving
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around the road in a way that suggested she might
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not have been completely sober. But according to her video,
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she claims that using her flirtatious and quick wits, she
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managed to trick the officer and get away with a warning.
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I blew three point eight and he let me off
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with a warning and gave me his number and said
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you should meet for coffee or lunch.
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He was hot, so I'm getting lunch with him tomorrow.
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If her story is true, then the officer would be
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in serious trouble. But luckily, the officer in question recorded
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the entire interaction on his body cam, and the video
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tells a completely different story.
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Oh my ms w Stam and the jet's kind of
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SHARE's office. I pulled you over because you're a weaving
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a little bit back there. Where are you coming from?
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I was coming from my friend's house.
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I actually just got dunt okay, I like crying and like,
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I'm really okay.
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Were you on your phone and stuff too? Okay? Well,
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I'm just concerned that you were weaving because of alcohol.
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But if you're on your phone, have you been drinking
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or anything tonight?
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No?
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Okay?
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The deputy then does give Skyler a card with the
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sheriff Department's information on it, but it didn't include his
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personal number and it didn't come with an invitation to dinner.
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Sounds like you're having a rough night. So I'm not
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going to add to that by writing you a ticket
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or anything. Okay, So I'm just gonna give you a warning.
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It's not a big deal. I just want to make
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sure you're okay. You're weaving a little bit. I just
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want to make sure you're okay to operate the motor vehicle,
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and I believe you are. So my information is right
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here on the front. The reason I stopped you here
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is on the back where we're headed. I'll get there safely.
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And I'm sorry you're having a bad night. Okay, No,
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you're fine. Yeah, No, you don't need to apologize. I
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mean you were weaving a little bit with no traffic out.
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I just want to make sure you're okay, that's all.
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Skyler's video doesn't just contain disgusting footage of her laughing
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and bragging about exploiting this officer's kindness, but also states
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that she blew a three point eight on the breathalyzer,
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ignoring that she wasn't even tested in the first place.
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The legal limit is only around zero point eight and
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already makes driving dangerous, but a reading of three point
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eight would imply Skyler was not only blackout drunk, but
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close to death, as at a level of four point zero,
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respiratory failure is likely. But this doesn't mean Skyler was
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lying about being drunk underage. Videos were later discovered of
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her chugging tequila from the bottle and acting drunk at
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a party just hours before she was caught driving. After
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she was confronted with this, Skyler confessed and admitted to everything.
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I ended up getting a little too intoxicated.
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I was taking shots all night, and I decided to
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make the dumb decision to get into my.
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Car and drive. She also admitted that the officer never
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asked her out that was just a lie for social
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media attention. Regardless of her confession, though, no further action
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was taken against her or the officer who failed to
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test her. But the same can't be said for Lydia Badillo.
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She was caught trying to transport two illegal immigrants over
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the Mexican border, and as soon as everything started to
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fall apart, she decided to try seducing the officer.
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Just wait from you right here.
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Okay, I'm looking at your eyes.
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You look pretty handsome.
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As soon as the officer realizes something might be up
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with the IDs, Lydia starts to smile and stare directly
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at his eyes before telling him how handsome he is. Obviously,
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this is just a trick to try and get out
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of the position she's put herself in, A trick that
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isn't going to work on this officer.
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Okay, okay, documents.
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That's ID.
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Okay, sos okay.
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After running the woman's driver's licenses through the national database,
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the officer discovers that the ID numbers return completely wrong results,
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meaning that both of them are totally fake. It's later
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discovered that the two women with Lydia the car are
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both illegal immigrants from El Salvador. What's worse is that
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they were being transported through a service that often forces
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women into debt bondage, where the people who transported them
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will make them pay off their debt through forced labor
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and sex work. So, while Lydia was arrested and the
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two women sent back over the border, they may have
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been saved from years of horrible treatment and abuse. One
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thing's for sure, though, Lydia's attempt at flirting didn't work
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one bit, unlike brook Teigue's attempt, which actually worked out
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well so well, it's rumored that her and the copper
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are still together to this day. Brooke was pulled over
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after an officer witnessed her swerving around the road slightly,
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a telltale sign that the driver was either intoxicated or
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in need of help, so he swiftly pulled her over,
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only to be greeted in a surprising way.
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Hey, a monster smith been to go place farm. I've
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never heard that before, Travislav. I appreciate that.
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Hey, so I'm just stopping you for improper ladies.
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I'll be honest, okay, Daddy, I'll for chow to too, okay, Zachary, Yeah,
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how about you had a drinks?
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Not only one drink, just one Drinkin answer, miller A
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miller lie.
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Yes, I won't lie to you, A miller lie.
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That's all you've had?
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Yes, sir, you can ask Zachary, I don't really want
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to talk, okay. In just this first minute of conversation,
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two things become clear immediately Brooke has definitely had more
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than one beer to drink, and how well she and
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the officer seemed to be getting along already, both points
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that will get increasingly more obvious as the footage continues.
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Yeah, I can spell it from across the car.
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She's liked Miller. No, I wanted to say, like a
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Miller did that to you?
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Big Miller?
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One hundred and twenty eight ounce Miller?
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Quicker bucket of Miller?
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All right, where we at on it? Awesome?
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Brook?
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Yes, tig am I saying the right tigue? Yes, like
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baseball league, tig like baseball league. Yep. It helps people
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spell it because they ever spell it correctly.
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Brook then gets taken out for some sobriety tests, which
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take much longer than anticipated.
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You're making me giggle.
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I'm sorry, it makes me giggle too.
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That's okay.
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I'm from Hantsville, from Huntsville. Isn't it gonna make me snort?
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All right? Stop laughing, I'm giggling. I'm sorry. The serious deal. Alright, Okay,
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you're smiling. I can't help all right, stop, I'm sorry.
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Unfortunately, despite all the jokes, Brooke failed all the sobriety
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tests and was put under arrest.
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How about you actually had a drink. I've had two millers.
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Two millers now that's it.
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Yes, sir, you can call Mitchell the manager.
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Okay, Well, go ahead and put your hands right back
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for me. Okay.
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Yeah.
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After a search of her car, which turned up nothing
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but a loose car seat, she was driven back to
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the police station, where the sparks continue to fly.
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I'm with you here. There is a dog, he's over there.
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His name is Kolak.
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His name was Coach, so.
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Indiana. I was raised from Bluefield.
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Really.
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Note that despite the obvious chemistry, both Brooke and the
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officer have remained professional and are continuing to move on
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with the investigation. The officer had Brook take a blood
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alcohol test, where she blew point fourteen percent, almost twice
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the legal limits. Do you and I probably wouldn't let
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her That bad of a sentence, though at least not
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compared to that of Amelia Bassoon, who tried every thing
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she could to seduce the detectives and get away with murder.
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Amelia was arrested in connection with the murders of Cindy
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and Sean Stack. They think she helped her husband cover
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up the crime, but she will do everything she can
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to get away with it, including flirting with the detectives.
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While this case started in a playful manner, it quickly
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evolved into one of the most intense interrogations of all time.
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They're dead.
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They're both dead.
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I didn't do anything.
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The detective starts by reading Amelia her rights and getting
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some basic information.
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Am I like getting arrested or something something? Normally this
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starts as like someone getting in trouble.
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Or well, we just like I said, we want to
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be able to talk to you already.
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It's obvious that Amelia is making her voice high pitched
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and speaking in a timid tone of voice. While this
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could just be what she sounds like normally, other footage
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of her suggests otherwise.
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I don't want to.
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Push parts, but I would like to no contact order area.
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Her change in tone and could also be a reaction
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to being in a stressful and uncomfortable situation. But as
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the interrogation continues, she begins to show more and more
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of these flirtatious signs.
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Josh, did you say that? Did I hear you say?
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You shot himself with a leg.
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Yeah, so in December he went bowling. Okay, the bullet
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went around the bone and around the artery through.
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Jeez, that's lucky.
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Yeah, he's great.
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Hello, you guys were married.
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It'll be a year in September.
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Okay.
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Here Amelia gathers her hair and moves it all to
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the right hand side, exposing her neck on the left.
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The neck carries the jugular, an important and vulnerable part
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of the body that many people will make an effort
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to protect. However, when someone feels comfortable or safe around someone,
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they're likely to expose their neck by tilting their head
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or moving their hair to the side, suggesting attraction or
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at least the desire to show it.
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All right, So maybe I can tell you the reason
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why we're here today is because of that.
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Issue with the bank. Okay, all right?
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Does that surprise you.
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For this type of situation, Yeah, like this intense. I
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mean I got in trouble at work, which makes sense.
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Well, let's let's walk through it a little bit.
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Okay, let's walk through that and see how maybe we
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came here today, all right and find out if this
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was just a misunderstanding or what.
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Okay.
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The story ended with Cindy and Sean dead, but started
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with an equally disgusting crime. Amelia was an employee at
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Chase Bank and exploited her position to steal fifty thousand
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dollars from a dementia ridden man. She wrote two checks
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from his account, and her husband, Josh, deposited them in
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his accounts. When Cindy and Sewan started asking questions, Josh
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purchased a gun and shot the pair in their own apartment.
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This interrogation is not only to uncover the details behind
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the theft, but also to determine what part she played
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in the killings.
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So how did you what happened with this ride up?
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So?
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I mean you had you been a banker for him
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for a while.
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I mean yeah, so I've been his banker since I
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moved here.
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So what happened with these checks?
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I think we just call them I have the record
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over level of security. So when they came in, they.
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Pulled like call logs, they pulled like cameras, just to
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make sure, like it will signature files, because I mean
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it's still federal, it's the banks. They wanted to make
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sure that I wasn't, like, I guess, stealing.
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When you talk to Gerald, I mean, how do you
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appear to you? Is he a young guy, old guy old. Oh, well,
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how did he appear to you when you talk to him?
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Okay? It was okay.
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Do you ever have any issues when he when he
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talked to him about remembering things or anything.
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Like that, like I know, like a little about himself,
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like he had brain surgery. But for the most part
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he remembers things. I don't think it would gets really
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just a nice.
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Okay, yeah, nice guy.
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Amelia does her best to seem open and honest here,
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but as soon as she finishes up talking, she brings
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her shoulders up, haunches over slightly, and crosses her arms,
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All movements that are done to protect vital parts of
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the body and are obvious tells that someone feels uncomfortable.
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These signs only become more apparent as the interview continues.
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What did you have you do?
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Like?
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How did he what did he ask for?
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No?
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Think it is just to fully put two checks and
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the grandson came.
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The grandson came and picked them up.
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It was either the day before the day after I
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opened up an account for him.
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Oh, so he must have just deposited those checks into
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the account.
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I think your best bet right now is to be
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completely honest with us.
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Okay, so let me, let me let's fall on a
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little bit more.
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Okay, but the truth is going to be the best thing.
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Right now, this just happened to me.
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My right up for.
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The account still open the father.
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M Amelia's speech has become much shorter and unclear, and
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she continues to seem more and more uncomfortable when pressured
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about Gerald's banking records. Of course, the detective has noticed
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this and is seeing straight through her original timid and
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playful demeanor, so he decides to ramp up the pressure.
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Okay, at a certain point in time, you have to
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move past it.
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Right.
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He's a nice guy, and I'm sure you really do
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care about you, see now. But it's not like I
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don't know, No, did you take advantage of that?
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Only I don't want to say I took advantage of him,
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because he's a really nice guy.
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And Josh, did he ever talk to them?
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He never spoke to him.
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He doesn't even know who are.
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What do you have been at their house?
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I don't even know.
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Well, you have access to his account.
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Yeah, but I haven't opened in.
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Yeah, you talked to Cindy possible she gave you their address?
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Is it going to be in the text messages.
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But you don't remember if she gave you the address
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or no reason to possible Josh went over there and
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you need to know.
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And how would he know where they live? Not the
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question I was.
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Asking, is it possible that he went over there? Not
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that I know, so you don't. You can't say for
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sure he did it day.
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Because he doesn't know where, he doesn't know them.
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Amelia now decides to change strategies. Instead of her original
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flirtatious and playful demeanor, she switched to an innocent and
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clueless one. At points, she even smiles and laughs while
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being asked serious questions and in attempts to downplay the
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intensity and pressure. This is a sign that the facade
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she's put up is starting to break, and the detective
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takes this as an opportunity to press her even further.
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And you need to start understanding this various situation right,
504
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because I don't know if you really do right. And
505
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I think you need to start understanding that how this
506
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interview goes and what you know, what decisions you make here.
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Are going to affect your life for a long, long
508
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long time.
509
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I think you think that you had this all planned out,
510
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and I think you've and again not to say it
511
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a bad way, but this is what we do. Okay,
512
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:15.839
when we make mistakes, we figure things out and go okay,
513
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all right, there's a lot more going on here, all right.
514
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And you know whose name is all over this right now?
515
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You and Joshua.
516
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.680
Okay, you need to start thinking real hard and real fast. Okay,
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00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.039
who who is involved in this?
518
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:31.880
And what happened? Okay? I know Okay, things got out
519
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.000
of hand. Okay, this guy at hand.
520
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:36.000
I think what happened with Cindy was asking you for
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this money back and you didn't have it, and there's there's.
522
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Some issues there. Okay.
523
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.400
Sometimes again, when we make a mistake, we do something
524
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wrong and things the ball gets wrong. We can't stop it.
525
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You understand what we're saying. Okay, listen, you have your
526
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whole life out of you.
527
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You have a seven year old son. You have an
528
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obligation to him.
529
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So whatever happened beyond this, we need to know because
530
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if you want to keep going with what you're telling us, okay,
531
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.599
and we're gonna have to go on that, all right,
532
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And you have to understand, Okay, so somebody did something.
533
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.720
We need to know now talking about her son obviously
534
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strikes a chord with him Alia, and as interrogations are
535
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all about exploiting emotions to extract the truth, the detective
536
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jumps on this to make her as vulnerable as possible.
537
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Did this, well, this is the stuff we need to know. Listen,
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if you put you up to what he put you
539
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up to, it that's okay.
540
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Again, like detech Mary, she.
541
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Said, I think you're kinda at this crossroads right now. Okay,
542
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You've got Josho you probably love, and he's your husband. Okay,
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you also have Julian, and you gotta picture that little boy.
544
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You gotta picture not being able to watch him grow up.
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Think about that for a second. Think about being put
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somewhere very far away from him. And the only way
547
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you're gonna have contact with him is through letters. You're
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gonna get pictures in jail, in prison of your little
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boy growing up.
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That's your future.
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I don't know so very what he did, what did
552
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he do? But he I mean, he knows the relationship
553
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.000
that I have with mister Stack. He knows that. I mean,
554
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I would take him food like so at a point.
555
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It would it would he would get upset with me.
556
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That like I'm too nice, that I like, I can't
557
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kind of act with my customers. But he's Oh, the
558
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old guy has no family. I mean I talked to
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him because he knows my husband.
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I talked to him, Joshua that you.
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Kind of were owed this money because you were taking
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care of this guy.
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I don't know if he said that, but something like that.
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Let me tell you, I.
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Don't want to get in trouble. I didn't do anything.
566
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We need to know within televice.
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Okay, they're both dead. What Yeah, they're dead, So now
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we really need to talk.
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At this point, all of the games that Amelia was
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playing have gone out the window. Whether she's innocent or not.
571
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She's now being accused of aiding a murderer and is
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faced with losing her job, house and a seven year
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old son. So understand she's starting to get incredibly scared.
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I do not want to go to jail. I don't
575
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I don't like if I get fired. Okay, let me
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get fired at work, but I don't want to go
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to jail. I didn't do anything. I didn't I didn't
578
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:18.519
plan anything, I didn't conspire anything. Just I didn't do anything.
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I don't want to go to jail.
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From here, the detectives try to capitalize on this, using
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her vulnerable state to try and extract as much information
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as possible from her, but Amelia asserts that she's only
583
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told the truth throughout the entire interrogation. She didn't know
584
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:36.480
Cindy and Sean were dead, and she had nothing to
585
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do with their murders. But here is where the interrogation
586
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takes a massive turn. These detectives have now been talking
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to her for over two hours, and they've executed this
588
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style of interrogation almost perfectly. But for the last few
589
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hours they've just been going around in circles to no avail.
590
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So instead they leave the room to discuss a new approach,
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and that when detective number three enters with blankets and
592
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a kind apologetic tone, you need to talk.
593
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VII. Can I tell you who they work for?
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Yeah?
595
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No, and you they want you to be a witness suspect.
596
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That's why I want to talk to them, because I
597
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just don't want to be involved in any of this.
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I don't want any part. I want to be able
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to go home.
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Entering like this after such a stressful experience with the
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other detectives will set Amelia's mind at ease and subconsciously
602
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enforce the idea that he isn't a threat. At the
603
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start of the interrogation, Amelia was trying to seduce the
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detectives in an attempt to get better treatment and hopefully
605
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even a lighter sentence. So if the third detective plays
606
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into this by treating her kindly and playing her game,
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maybe he'll have a chance of finding out what really happened.
608
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In these cases, you can't lie, you can't wish, which
609
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means holding something back, telling a partial truth, or just
610
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.559
flat outline that is accessory. You're protecting someone and I'm
611
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.160
telling you right now you don't need to do that.
612
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If you know what happened, tell him.
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00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.000
Did he tell you what he did? And don't you
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00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.319
have to say anything? No, he just told me.
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00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.680
Did you say anything, like if you because I mean,
616
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I'm not stupid.
617
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.200
Okay, But eventually he told you what happened.
618
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.799
No, he didn't tell me that he killed anybody.
619
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.640
Or that he was going, but you know that he
620
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:31.440
was going over there.
621
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I knew that he was going. What day he told me.
622
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.279
He's like, he's like, don't worry about what I'm doing.
623
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.039
I'll take care of it talking about them, though, I'm
624
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:40.519
guessing so, because that's just funny.
625
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.839
See, your importance is in details, not in vaguest.
626
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.759
He told me, I'm going to jil regardless.
627
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.640
Well, I doubted that the fraud part may be, but
628
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:54.440
that's that's nothing. That's nothing compared him to these charges
629
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:55.720
for first.
630
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To be murder.
631
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.119
If I say all of these things, will I get
632
00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:58.640
in trouble.
633
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.759
If you don't say these things, you're definitely gonna get
634
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:02.079
in trouble.
635
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.960
But this is where I'm scared. If I say these
636
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:06.480
things like I didn't.
637
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.839
Too many of this way, if you protect him and
638
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.279
you don't tell us everything, then you're part of the crime.
639
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Amelia is now met with a harsh dilemma. She has
640
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.880
to either gamble that the detectives never connect her to
641
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.559
the crime and face felony charges herself, or fess up
642
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.000
and snitch to the police, likely sending her husband to
643
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.079
jail for the rest of his life. This is her
644
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.640
last chance to make the right decision, or she'll never
645
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.160
see her son again.
646
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:38.319
Yeah, go ahead, So I let her know.
647
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.000
She wanted to know.
648
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.160
She went with her dad to the bank, and she
649
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.240
looked at the transaction history, and she wanted to know
650
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.480
what the jocks were, so I can't tell her much.
651
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.720
And then he's over my shoulder listening to my conversations
652
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.119
with her, and he's just like, I'll take care of it,
653
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:52.839
don't worry about it.
654
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.599
He just wasn't having it. He didn't want me to
655
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.759
talk to her, he didn't want me to contact her.
656
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.160
And who we talk about her?
657
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.039
You know her name Cynthia Cindy. And he knew who
658
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.200
Cindy was only because of the conversations that me and
659
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.279
her were happening. The next day he went and he
660
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.400
bought a gun. I don't know if it was Tuesday
661
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:13.240
or Wednesday.
662
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:14.839
He called out of work.
663
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.359
He said that I'm gonna take care of things. The
664
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.799
next day, he just he comes home and he's like
665
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:20.960
banging on the door.
666
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.680
This is like where the apartment or the house where
667
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:25.640
we were.
668
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.200
At today, Yes, okay, he came banging on the door.
669
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.960
When he came home, he took the gun apart. He
670
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:32.519
was shaking.
671
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.039
He took all his clothes off, he put it in
672
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.440
a garbage bag, and then he went by his mom
673
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:39.160
and dad's house.
674
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.559
When did you become aware that he was involved in
675
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:43.960
the murder.
676
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.599
Well, I didn't know what happened. I just stopped hearing
677
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.119
from her.
678
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.119
And then what I said something about can I call her?
679
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.119
He told me no, and then he got really mad
680
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.880
at me, and he's like, you say something.
681
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:57.279
I'm gonna kill you.
682
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.480
Okay, he's not gonna say that unless he told you
683
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.480
about the work. That's the part that's so. When did
684
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.960
he tell you about the murder? Sweet, you gotta let
685
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.920
this go. You can't. Anything you hold back is not
686
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.000
gonna look good. You've got to just tell it. It hurts,
687
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.640
it's scary. I understand that, But not talking is worse
688
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:16.519
for you than talking.
689
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:17.119
It was.
690
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He never described how, he never physically said like what
691
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he did or if anything was done show Well, I'm
692
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.559
guessing he has done so. O.
693
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Guess did he tell you that he shot them?
694
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:29.160
Yes?
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00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.799
He said he shot thew And with that.
696
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.720
The detectives managed to use Amelia's tactics against her and
697
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.880
got her to confess to her own husband's crime. The
698
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detectives also stuck to their word, and after confirming she
699
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.319
had nothing to do with the murders, dropped the charges
700
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.440
against her. She was, however, still charged with the theft
701
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.920
and sentenced to three years in prison. Josh, however, was
702
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.839
found guilty of the first degree murders of Cindy and
703
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.359
Sean Stack and was sentenced to life behind bars. If
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