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Hello lovelies, and happy Wednesday. I am not in my
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about our little podcast. Now, hello to everybody that is
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here in the chat. I can't see chat as well
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today due to the fact I am on my laptop
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and I don't have multiple monitors, so I apologize right
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now now before we get into today's cases. I wanted
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to talk a little bit about something I saw this morning.
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I saw Savannah Guthrie. They issued like a little trailer
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about her interview talking about her mom, and I'm going
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to tell you, guys, it broke me. Okay, it broke
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me this morning. I literally started ugly crying. And the
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reason why. And I know a lot of people have
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complained that her mom has gotten so much exposure unlike others.
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But what I want to say is, yes, it's not fair,
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but it's the way the world works. But what broke
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me is her feelings and the things that she talked
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about and how she feels is what every family member
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that I've ever spoken to who have family loved ones missing,
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it's the same thing. They wake up in the middle
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of the night wondering what exactly happened, what their loved
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one is going through, are they safe, do they have food?
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Why did this happen? All of those questions. So I
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want you to think about that today as we go
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through today's cases. Okay, and today we are heading to Washington. Okay.
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Washington is a place of contrast, where dense evergreen forest
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stretched for miles and mis rolls in off the Pacific
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like a quiet veil over landscape and beautiful from the
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rainsoaked streets of Ceas to the rugged coastline and remote
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mountain train. It's a state as beautiful as it is vast.
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But guys, that same terrain can complicate searches when someone disappears.
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Thick woods, isolated rural communities in constantly shifting weather conditions
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makes it even more difficult for investigators and family searching
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for answers. Washington has consistently reported hundreds of missing person
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cases each year, with many being resolved, but a lot
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of them are still open. Okay, and today we're going
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to talk about two of those cases. One of them.
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I'm going to warn you now, if you're new here,
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there will be rants. Okay, there will be rants on
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one of these Okay. Rose E. Eaton was seventy three
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years old when she vanished on July twenty fifth, nineteen
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from Chimacum, which is a small unincorporated area in Jefferson County, Washington.
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Rose was born on June twenty sixth, nineteen twenty one.
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She is described as a white female with gray hair
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and blue eyes, standing about five feet eight to five
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feet nine weighing around one hundred and sixty pounds now.
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She had previously fractured her upper left arm and had
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a small scar on the back of her neck, as
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well as a scar on her abdomen. At the time
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of her disappearance, Rose had been living with dementia for
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several years. Despite that, she was physically healthy and living
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with her son as a dependent adult. Now. She did
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not drive, but that morning her son was preparing to
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take her to a dental appointment. Rose was already seated
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in the vehicle waiting for her son when her son
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noticed that several of his stock animals had gotten loose.
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He told her, hey, mom, stay in the car, and
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he stepped away to secure those animals, leaving her inside
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with the family's German shepherd. He said he was gone
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for about ten minutes. Guys. When he came back, she
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was gone. Her tan purse was also missing, but the
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dog remained in the vehicle. Her son immediately began searching.
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He checked along the nearby road and returned to the house,
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which was still locked. When he could not find her,
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he contacted law enforcement. Guys, it can happen that fast. Okay,
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oh gosh, an extensive search followed. Tracking dogs were able
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to follow roses scent for about one third of a
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mile down a dirt road leading to the junction of
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that road in Beaver Valley Road, which was a mained
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paved roadway. Guys, then the scent just dropped, just stopped.
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Investigators believe it's possible Rose may have entered a passing
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vehicle at that location. Guys, somebody, I say this many
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many times, someone could leave their home intending to go
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somewhere and something nefarious happened. Okay, Rosa had very little
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money with her, Like I said, she could not drive,
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while her dementia made her daily life more difficult, and
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she had expressed that she wanted to continue living with
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her family. She did not make any comments that she
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wanted to leave. Now, investigators say foul play is not suspected.
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I'm going to just go out on a limb and say,
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I don't know how you can say that, because what
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if somebody says, hey, ma'am, do you need a drive.
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She's an older lady, she has dementia, she gets in
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the car with them. What if they're a bad guy
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and they did something bad. So I don't know how
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you can say that, okay, but they say it hasn't
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been ruled out due to the way her scent abruptly ended. Okay,
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I'm going to just go out on a lemon and say,
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don't happen now. At the time she disappeared, Rose was
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wearing a long sleeved blue button down coat, a long
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white blue dress, and blue size eight and a half
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therapeutic shoes with rubber soles. She was carrying a tan
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purse and wearing a ruby ring with small diamonds now.
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Her son Rick has questioned whether her disappearance could be
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connected in any way to the two thousand and five
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murder of his sister Janet. Guys, for a family to
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have a loved one murdered and then one go missing,
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how much can one family take? Now? The motive in
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that case has been described as unclear. Rose Eaton is
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still missing and there has been no sign of her.
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So if you have any information, please contact the Jefferson
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County Sheriff's Office at three six h three eight five
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three eight three one. Guys, somebody knows something. If her
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scin just disappeared, she got into somebody's vehicle, Okay, she
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didn't just hop on a little jet and go to
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the sky. Okay, she had to have gotten in somebody's vehicle,
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which means somebody out there knows something. Okay. Now, if
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you know of or if you have a loved one
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that's missing and you're interested in having their story featured
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on an upcoming episode, or maybe you want to come
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on and do a live interview, you can email me
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directly Terry at tcwtmedia dot com, or you can contact
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us through any of our social media accounts. Okay, now, guys,
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I'm going to tell you to buckle up because this
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next case is pure hell to cover, and I'm going
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to try to keep my rants to a minimum. I'm
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pissed about the next case, and if you watch True
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Crime and Wine Time, where we're covering the Robert Hansen story,
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I feel like I've been pissed off the whole month
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of March. Okay, so let's get it out of the way.
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Oakley Carson was born in December twenty sixteen and was
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just five years old when he disappeared from Gray's Harbor, County, Washington. Now,
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before her birth, the Department of Children, Youth and Family
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Services had already received multiple reports involving her mother, Jordan Bowers,
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and her partner Andrew Carlson Now. According to a later
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Child Fatality Review, Child Fatality Review DCIF had received at
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least fourteen calls about the family over the years, some
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dating back to twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. A half
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sibling had been temporarily placed in an out of home
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care during the time, but was later returned. In twenty seventeen,
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they received allegations that Bowers yelled profanities at a seventeen
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month old sibling and failed to obtain necessary medical care.
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The report was closed after it was determined it did
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not meet the legal threshold for response. First, first thing,
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how cannot getting necessary medical care for your child not
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meet the legal threshold hold for an agency to respond? How?
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I don't. I don't understand that, and I will tell
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you It's one of the reasons I stopped being a
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COSA advocate here in Texas, because you get in there
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to help and you basically are handcuffed, and courts still
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give the kids back. The following mouth, another caller reported
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similar concerns about medical care and also drug use and
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domestic violence. Finally, they opened an investigation, Okay, a case
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was opened. But guess what, nothing was done. Nothing, nothing
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was done with that, so many failures, so they this
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missing child is on you, guys, okay. They later filed
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dependency petitions for Oakley and her siblings, asking the court
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to declare the children dependent on the state for protection
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due to abuse or neglect. Law enforcement took the children
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into custody. Finally, thank you. In January twenty eighteen, after
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Oakley's parents did not appear at a hearing, the court
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declared the children dependence. The court repeatedly denied the parent's
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motion to appeal. Should have showed up the first time.
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In August twenty eighteen, DCYF filed a petition to terminate
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Bowers and Crossing's parental rights. After the petition was filed,
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the parents began completing requirements to regain custody of the children,
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including parenting classes, substance to use treatment, psychological evaluations. Guys, CPS, DCYF,
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their main goal is to reunify children with their family.
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But guys, that's not always what's in the best indress
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of the child, okay, And that is why I stepped
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away from COSA because of that. Now, Carlson was discharged
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from domestic violence treatment due to non compliance. He just
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didn't go now. A judge later granted Bower's appeal, and
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the case never went to a termination trial. Okay. In
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twenty nineteen, a DCYF caseworker and a court appointed advocate
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like I was sought to change the plan to adoption
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as the preferred option instead of reunification. That request was denied. Okay.
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That fall, DCYF began allowing unsupervised visits as a step
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towards reunification. A caseworker met with Oakley regularly, and documentation
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reflected that she did not make any concerning statements about
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the time she spent with her parents. Excuse me, she
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was a freaking five six year old child. What do
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you think she's gonna say? She loves her parents and
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it's scary to be taken away from your parents and
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sent somewhere else. What do you think she's gonna say?
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I mean, what makes you think she's gonna be open
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or even know the words to use? I am sorry,
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that just pushes my buttons. Okay. The court approved a
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trial return to her parents' home, with a caseworker making
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regular visits. Now remind you he was kicked out of
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his domestic violence classes. Okay, just remember that a few
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months later, the COVID nineteen pandemic began. Okay. Then Governor
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j Ensley issued a mandate that DCYF conduct health and
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safety visits virtually rather than in person. I get. They
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had to do what they had to do. Okay, I
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get that. In June of twenty twenty, the court dismissed
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Oakley's depending case. She was no longer under court or
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the dcyf's supervision. So guys, what the actual hell? Okay,
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you haven't put your physical eyes on this child except
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for a video. Why would you terminate that and stop? Why?
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Why didn't you just let things continue, keep doing it,
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maybe terminate the virtual But then before you end it,
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go and see the child in person and see the home.
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What if child has bruises on her back you can't see?
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Did you make her get undressed on video? Did you
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make her strip down? How do you know? How do
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you know what was going on? I don't, I don't.
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Then in January, DCYF received a call reporting that Oakley
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had been seen with scratches and bruises on the face.
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The caller also reported that Andrew Carlson had recently lost
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his job due to allegations of substance use. Once again,
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why in the hell is he even allowed to be
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around any of the children since he was kicked out
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of DV classes due to non compliance. Can somebody in
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Washington and DCYF tell me why? Why? Why? Why? I
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Am going to look at the comments and see if
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anybody has put anything in because I you're so pam
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in disguise that she had foster children that returned to
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the BIO mom returned a bad situation because they promote reunification. Yeah,
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my situation here in Texas when I was a CLASSA advocate,
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I had a fourteen year old and I was her caseworker.
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Went to see her. Her mom had died, she was
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living with her elderly grandmother. Her dad had been in
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prison for say against her Okay, he got the courts
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wanted to give the child to him when he got
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out of prison because her mom was dead and the
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grandmother was old. And I was like, that is not
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in the best interests of a child to send this
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fourteen year old back to the man who has hayed her. Yes,
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he did it when she was three. I don't care.
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You don't send her back because do you think in
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prison he got rid of those urges. No he didn't, No,
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he didn't. So I resigned from being an advocate because
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they said they wanted to do was in the best
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interests of the child, and as an essay survivor, I
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gave them my story and why I thought it was wrong,
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and they were like, yeah, we're not gonna do that.
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So now, the next day a caseworker went to the home.
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Jordan Bowers would not allow the caseworker inside. Okay, guys,
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I get that they don't have to answer the door
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and they don't have to let you inside. But you
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have the ability to go to a judge and say
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that we are worried about this child and give me
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a warrant and then you go with law enforcement. Okay,
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this child had already been in state's custody, and there's
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another claim that she's been physically abused. She didn't get
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the right to say no, I'm sorry. You lose that right.
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You lose that right in my opinion. Okay, guys, I
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guess I need to specify in my opinion, You're right, Lama.
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It was so fucking gross Okay, I still can't do
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it now. The case worker briefly saw Oakley through a
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sliding glass door, wearing only a diaper. She said from
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there she couldn't see anything. That's how she put her
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eyes on her. A sibling who was interviewed at school
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said that they had been spanked the night before. Okay,
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if it's a regular spanking, I don't have kids currently,
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they're grown. I don't you know, but spanking. Sorry, I
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was raised in the South. There's nothing wrong with a
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spank on the butt. But guys. Oakley was last seen
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alive or in person February twenty twenty one by someone
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other than her biological parents. Okay. In March of twenty twenty,
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twenty twenty one, two child welfare workers returned to the
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home and were again denied access. Later that month, a
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relative reported seeing a torch on the counter and express
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concern about possible drug use. Again, why in the hell
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were these kids not taken into the state's custody again, Washington,
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DCAF you're about to go on my Alaska list. Okay,
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and let me tell you you do not want to
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be on my Alaska list. You don't Okay, you don't
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you're ready for this guy's buckle up. In November twenty twenty,
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first three callers reported that the family's home had caught
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fire and that they were living in this home after
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the file, after the fire with structural damage. They were
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living in a home that had burned. Okay. Those reports
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were deemed insufficient to warrant a response. So again, remind you,
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nobody has put their eyes on these children since these
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calls came in. That there was a torch, which apparently
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a torch goes with drug use. Did not know that,
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and that there was bruises on the child. Okay? Why
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was this not sufficient enough to respond? Children living in
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a home structure that is damaged on a fire. How
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was that not a concern? How is that not a concern?
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Somebody tell me, educate me please. In December that year,
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a school principal overheard a conversation between her own child
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and Oakley's sister. According to court documents, the sister said
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Oakley is no more and there is no Oakley. The
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principal had visited the family's home three times and had
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not seen Oakley. She contacted d CYF and law enforcement,
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requesting a welfare check. According to the report when question one,
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siblings told the authorities that their mother had forbidden them
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from speaking about Oakley and claimed that Oakley had gone
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out into the woods and had been eaten by wolves.
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Jordan Bowers and Andrew Coulson told law enforcement that Oakley
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was living with her grandfather. When the grandfather questions, he
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said he hadn't seen Oakley and nearly a year. What
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the hell, guys, what the hell? We have a five
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year old who hasn't been seen, who is missing. The
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day after the principal made the call, Laura Enlrsmith did
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declare Oakley as missing. Okay, she finally went on the
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missing person list. Her siblings were placed into protective custody.
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Jordan and pos Andrew were arrested for obstructing law enforcement.
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Deputies alleged that the parents could not provide any information
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or explanation about Oakley's whereabouts. Both have been identified as
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persons of interest in her abduction abduction. Did they sell her,
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did they need money? Did they give her to somebody?
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I mean, guys, I can't. I'm gonna pull my hair
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out now. Finally, they were charged and convicted of child
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or endangerment with a controlled substance in an unrelated case
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that the kids weren't taken away from them for they
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do remain persons of interest in Oakley's disappearance. A body
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has not been found. Okay. I want to know why
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they have him in charge with more. It makes zero
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sense to me. Okay. And here's where it gets scary
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and makes me wonder if they traded her to somebody
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or if they did something bad to her. In some
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court documents from twenty twenty three, there was allegations that
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Oakley had been kept in a locked cell underneath the stairs. Okay. Also,
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there was claims that the mother also physically abused her
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and that she needed money. They were desperate for money.
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In July, a judge and Pacific counting to declared Oakley
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legally deceased. They did that based on Oakley's siblings wanted
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to have her declared debt and guys, it's not a
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bad thing. They were hoping. I'm sure that it would
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be moved to a homicide case. Okay, and an attorney
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for the guardian ad litem later stated that decision was
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made on the evidence reviewed in the passage of time. Now, guys,
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I really okay, Oakley had been living with a foster
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mother from infancy until she was three, when she was
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sent back to biological parents. So from three to five,
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two years, guys two years and the child went missing.
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What concerns me is that they said they were desperate
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for money after the house burning. They needed to be
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able to repair the house or find something new. Okay,
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I mean, okay, now after that, Washington law requires them
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to conduct a child fatality review. Okay. They said that
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there is conflicting evidence. There is evidence that points to
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her biological parents being involved in her disappearance, possibly trading her,
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traffing her, or possibly they killed her. But without a body,
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they are not closing it. Okay. They are not saying
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that she's deceased. As far as the missing person case,
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she still is listed missing. Now. Oakley would be ten
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right now. So anyone with information about Oakley Carlson's disappearance
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is asked to contact the Grace Harbor County Sheriff's Office
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at three six oh nine six four one seven seven oh.
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Her parents don't deserve shit, but Oakley deserves to be found.
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If she was unalived, she deserves for her remains to
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be found so that they can be buried by her siblings, Okay.
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They deserve that closure. And if she was unlived, whoever
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did it, whether it was the parents or if they
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traded or somebody, those people deserve to go to jail
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for it. Okay. So please, I have not been doing
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a slideshow during today's because I'm on my laptop. The
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missing person posters will be posted to our mid Day
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Missing Facebook page as well as all of my social
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media pages, so please share those. Rows and Oakley both
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deserve to be found. Okay. Now, guys, I appreciate you
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being here with me today. Those of you on TikTok
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hope you love my office where I'm at. Those of
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you over on the other platforms, I hope you like
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my bad lighting and my virtual background. It means a
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lot to me for you guys to show up for
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these missing person cases. It is very important to me
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to share these cases and to get the word out
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because guys, it's the least we can do. It is
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the least we can do for these families. Now, I
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want you all to remember True Crime and mind time
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is back tonight eight pm Eastern with the ninth episode
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of The Frozen Baker story Robert Hansen from Alaska and
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I hate Alaska. I hate Robert Hanson, I hate everything
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about it. But I will be back tonight and hopefully
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if Loma's feeling better, she'll be with us. But guys,
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be safe. If you see something, say something, and just
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remember your silence only protects the perpetrators. Okay, bye, guys,
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take care and I will see you tonight
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Hello lovelies, and happy Wednesday. I am not in my
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studio or office at home. I'm actually in my account
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about our little podcast. Now, hello to everybody that is
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here in the chat. I can't see chat as well
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today due to the fact I am on my laptop
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and I don't have multiple monitors, so I apologize right
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now now before we get into today's cases. I wanted
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to talk a little bit about something I saw this morning.
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I saw Savannah Guthrie. They issued like a little trailer
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about her interview talking about her mom, and I'm going
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to tell you, guys, it broke me. Okay, it broke
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me this morning. I literally started ugly crying. And the
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reason why. And I know a lot of people have
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complained that her mom has gotten so much exposure unlike others.
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But what I want to say is, yes, it's not fair,
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but it's the way the world works. But what broke
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me is her feelings and the things that she talked
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about and how she feels is what every family member
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that I've ever spoken to who have family loved ones missing,
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it's the same thing. They wake up in the middle
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of the night wondering what exactly happened, what their loved
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one is going through, are they safe, do they have food?
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Why did this happen? All of those questions. So I
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want you to think about that today as we go
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through today's cases. Okay, and today we are heading to Washington. Okay.
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Washington is a place of contrast, where dense evergreen forest
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stretched for miles and mis rolls in off the Pacific
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like a quiet veil over landscape and beautiful from the
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rainsoaked streets of Ceas to the rugged coastline and remote
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mountain train. It's a state as beautiful as it is vast.
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But guys, that same terrain can complicate searches when someone disappears.
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Thick woods, isolated rural communities in constantly shifting weather conditions
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makes it even more difficult for investigators and family searching
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for answers. Washington has consistently reported hundreds of missing person
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cases each year, with many being resolved, but a lot
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of them are still open. Okay, and today we're going
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to talk about two of those cases. One of them.
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I'm going to warn you now, if you're new here,
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there will be rants. Okay, there will be rants on
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one of these Okay. Rose E. Eaton was seventy three
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years old when she vanished on July twenty fifth, nineteen
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from Chimacum, which is a small unincorporated area in Jefferson County, Washington.
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Rose was born on June twenty sixth, nineteen twenty one.
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She is described as a white female with gray hair
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and blue eyes, standing about five feet eight to five
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feet nine weighing around one hundred and sixty pounds now.
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She had previously fractured her upper left arm and had
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a small scar on the back of her neck, as
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well as a scar on her abdomen. At the time
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of her disappearance, Rose had been living with dementia for
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several years. Despite that, she was physically healthy and living
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with her son as a dependent adult. Now. She did
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not drive, but that morning her son was preparing to
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take her to a dental appointment. Rose was already seated
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in the vehicle waiting for her son when her son
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noticed that several of his stock animals had gotten loose.
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He told her, hey, mom, stay in the car, and
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he stepped away to secure those animals, leaving her inside
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with the family's German shepherd. He said he was gone
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for about ten minutes. Guys. When he came back, she
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was gone. Her tan purse was also missing, but the
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dog remained in the vehicle. Her son immediately began searching.
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He checked along the nearby road and returned to the house,
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which was still locked. When he could not find her,
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he contacted law enforcement. Guys, it can happen that fast. Okay,
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oh gosh, an extensive search followed. Tracking dogs were able
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to follow roses scent for about one third of a
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mile down a dirt road leading to the junction of
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that road in Beaver Valley Road, which was a mained
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paved roadway. Guys, then the scent just dropped, just stopped.
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Investigators believe it's possible Rose may have entered a passing
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vehicle at that location. Guys, somebody, I say this many
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many times, someone could leave their home intending to go
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somewhere and something nefarious happened. Okay, Rosa had very little
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money with her, Like I said, she could not drive,
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while her dementia made her daily life more difficult, and
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she had expressed that she wanted to continue living with
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her family. She did not make any comments that she
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wanted to leave. Now, investigators say foul play is not suspected.
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I'm going to just go out on a limb and say,
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I don't know how you can say that, because what
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if somebody says, hey, ma'am, do you need a drive.
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She's an older lady, she has dementia, she gets in
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the car with them. What if they're a bad guy
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and they did something bad. So I don't know how
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you can say that, okay, but they say it hasn't
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been ruled out due to the way her scent abruptly ended. Okay,
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I'm going to just go out on a lemon and say,
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don't happen now. At the time she disappeared, Rose was
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wearing a long sleeved blue button down coat, a long
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white blue dress, and blue size eight and a half
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therapeutic shoes with rubber soles. She was carrying a tan
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purse and wearing a ruby ring with small diamonds now.
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Her son Rick has questioned whether her disappearance could be
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connected in any way to the two thousand and five
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murder of his sister Janet. Guys, for a family to
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have a loved one murdered and then one go missing,
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how much can one family take? Now? The motive in
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that case has been described as unclear. Rose Eaton is
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still missing and there has been no sign of her.
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So if you have any information, please contact the Jefferson
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County Sheriff's Office at three six h three eight five
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three eight three one. Guys, somebody knows something. If her
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scin just disappeared, she got into somebody's vehicle, Okay, she
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didn't just hop on a little jet and go to
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the sky. Okay, she had to have gotten in somebody's vehicle,
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which means somebody out there knows something. Okay. Now, if
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you know of or if you have a loved one
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that's missing and you're interested in having their story featured
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on an upcoming episode, or maybe you want to come
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on and do a live interview, you can email me
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directly Terry at tcwtmedia dot com, or you can contact
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us through any of our social media accounts. Okay, now, guys,
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I'm going to tell you to buckle up because this
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next case is pure hell to cover, and I'm going
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to try to keep my rants to a minimum. I'm
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pissed about the next case, and if you watch True
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Crime and Wine Time, where we're covering the Robert Hansen story,
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I feel like I've been pissed off the whole month
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of March. Okay, so let's get it out of the way.
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Oakley Carson was born in December twenty sixteen and was
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just five years old when he disappeared from Gray's Harbor, County, Washington. Now,
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before her birth, the Department of Children, Youth and Family
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Services had already received multiple reports involving her mother, Jordan Bowers,
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and her partner Andrew Carlson Now. According to a later
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Child Fatality Review, Child Fatality Review DCIF had received at
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least fourteen calls about the family over the years, some
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dating back to twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. A half
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sibling had been temporarily placed in an out of home
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care during the time, but was later returned. In twenty seventeen,
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they received allegations that Bowers yelled profanities at a seventeen
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month old sibling and failed to obtain necessary medical care.
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The report was closed after it was determined it did
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not meet the legal threshold for response. First, first thing,
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how cannot getting necessary medical care for your child not
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meet the legal threshold hold for an agency to respond? How?
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I don't. I don't understand that, and I will tell
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you It's one of the reasons I stopped being a
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COSA advocate here in Texas, because you get in there
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to help and you basically are handcuffed, and courts still
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give the kids back. The following mouth, another caller reported
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similar concerns about medical care and also drug use and
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domestic violence. Finally, they opened an investigation, Okay, a case
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was opened. But guess what, nothing was done. Nothing, nothing
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was done with that, so many failures, so they this
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missing child is on you, guys, okay. They later filed
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dependency petitions for Oakley and her siblings, asking the court
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to declare the children dependent on the state for protection
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due to abuse or neglect. Law enforcement took the children
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into custody. Finally, thank you. In January twenty eighteen, after
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Oakley's parents did not appear at a hearing, the court
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declared the children dependence. The court repeatedly denied the parent's
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motion to appeal. Should have showed up the first time.
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In August twenty eighteen, DCYF filed a petition to terminate
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Bowers and Crossing's parental rights. After the petition was filed,
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the parents began completing requirements to regain custody of the children,
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including parenting classes, substance to use treatment, psychological evaluations. Guys, CPS, DCYF,
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their main goal is to reunify children with their family.
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But guys, that's not always what's in the best indress
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of the child, okay, And that is why I stepped
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away from COSA because of that. Now, Carlson was discharged
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from domestic violence treatment due to non compliance. He just
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didn't go now. A judge later granted Bower's appeal, and
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the case never went to a termination trial. Okay. In
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twenty nineteen, a DCYF caseworker and a court appointed advocate
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like I was sought to change the plan to adoption
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as the preferred option instead of reunification. That request was denied. Okay.
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That fall, DCYF began allowing unsupervised visits as a step
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towards reunification. A caseworker met with Oakley regularly, and documentation
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reflected that she did not make any concerning statements about
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the time she spent with her parents. Excuse me, she
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was a freaking five six year old child. What do
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you think she's gonna say? She loves her parents and
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it's scary to be taken away from your parents and
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sent somewhere else. What do you think she's gonna say?
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I mean, what makes you think she's gonna be open
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or even know the words to use? I am sorry,
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that just pushes my buttons. Okay. The court approved a
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trial return to her parents' home, with a caseworker making
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regular visits. Now remind you he was kicked out of
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his domestic violence classes. Okay, just remember that a few
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months later, the COVID nineteen pandemic began. Okay. Then Governor
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j Ensley issued a mandate that DCYF conduct health and
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safety visits virtually rather than in person. I get. They
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had to do what they had to do. Okay, I
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get that. In June of twenty twenty, the court dismissed
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Oakley's depending case. She was no longer under court or
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the dcyf's supervision. So guys, what the actual hell? Okay,
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you haven't put your physical eyes on this child except
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for a video. Why would you terminate that and stop? Why?
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Why didn't you just let things continue, keep doing it,
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maybe terminate the virtual But then before you end it,
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go and see the child in person and see the home.
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What if child has bruises on her back you can't see?
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Did you make her get undressed on video? Did you
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make her strip down? How do you know? How do
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you know what was going on? I don't, I don't.
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had been seen with scratches and bruises on the face.
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his job due to allegations of substance use. Once again,
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why in the hell is he even allowed to be
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around any of the children since he was kicked out
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of DV classes due to non compliance. Can somebody in
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Washington and DCYF tell me why? Why? Why? Why? I
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Am going to look at the comments and see if
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anybody has put anything in because I you're so pam
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in disguise that she had foster children that returned to
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the BIO mom returned a bad situation because they promote reunification. Yeah,
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my situation here in Texas when I was a CLASSA advocate,
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I had a fourteen year old and I was her caseworker.
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Went to see her. Her mom had died, she was
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living with her elderly grandmother. Her dad had been in
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prison for say against her Okay, he got the courts
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wanted to give the child to him when he got
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out of prison because her mom was dead and the
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grandmother was old. And I was like, that is not
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in the best interests of a child to send this
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fourteen year old back to the man who has hayed her. Yes,
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he did it when she was three. I don't care.
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You don't send her back because do you think in
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prison he got rid of those urges. No he didn't, No,
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he didn't. So I resigned from being an advocate because
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they said they wanted to do was in the best
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interests of the child, and as an essay survivor, I
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gave them my story and why I thought it was wrong,
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and they were like, yeah, we're not gonna do that.
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So now, the next day a caseworker went to the home.
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Jordan Bowers would not allow the caseworker inside. Okay, guys,
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I get that they don't have to answer the door
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and they don't have to let you inside. But you
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have the ability to go to a judge and say
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that we are worried about this child and give me
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a warrant and then you go with law enforcement. Okay,
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this child had already been in state's custody, and there's
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another claim that she's been physically abused. She didn't get
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the right to say no, I'm sorry. You lose that right.
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You lose that right in my opinion. Okay, guys, I
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guess I need to specify in my opinion, You're right, Lama.
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It was so fucking gross Okay, I still can't do
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it now. The case worker briefly saw Oakley through a
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sliding glass door, wearing only a diaper. She said from
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there she couldn't see anything. That's how she put her
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eyes on her. A sibling who was interviewed at school
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said that they had been spanked the night before. Okay,
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if it's a regular spanking, I don't have kids currently,
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they're grown. I don't you know, but spanking. Sorry, I
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was raised in the South. There's nothing wrong with a
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spank on the butt. But guys. Oakley was last seen
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alive or in person February twenty twenty one by someone
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other than her biological parents. Okay. In March of twenty twenty,
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twenty twenty one, two child welfare workers returned to the
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home and were again denied access. Later that month, a
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relative reported seeing a torch on the counter and express
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concern about possible drug use. Again, why in the hell
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were these kids not taken into the state's custody again, Washington,
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DCAF you're about to go on my Alaska list. Okay,
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and let me tell you you do not want to
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be on my Alaska list. You don't Okay, you don't
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you're ready for this guy's buckle up. In November twenty twenty,
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first three callers reported that the family's home had caught
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fire and that they were living in this home after
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the file, after the fire with structural damage. They were
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living in a home that had burned. Okay. Those reports
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were deemed insufficient to warrant a response. So again, remind you,
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nobody has put their eyes on these children since these
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calls came in. That there was a torch, which apparently
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a torch goes with drug use. Did not know that,
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and that there was bruises on the child. Okay? Why
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was this not sufficient enough to respond? Children living in
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a home structure that is damaged on a fire. How
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was that not a concern? How is that not a concern?
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Somebody tell me, educate me please. In December that year,
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a school principal overheard a conversation between her own child
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and Oakley's sister. According to court documents, the sister said
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Oakley is no more and there is no Oakley. The
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principal had visited the family's home three times and had
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not seen Oakley. She contacted d CYF and law enforcement,
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requesting a welfare check. According to the report when question one,
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siblings told the authorities that their mother had forbidden them
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from speaking about Oakley and claimed that Oakley had gone
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out into the woods and had been eaten by wolves.
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Jordan Bowers and Andrew Coulson told law enforcement that Oakley
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was living with her grandfather. When the grandfather questions, he
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said he hadn't seen Oakley and nearly a year. What
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the hell, guys, what the hell? We have a five
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year old who hasn't been seen, who is missing. The
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day after the principal made the call, Laura Enlrsmith did
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declare Oakley as missing. Okay, she finally went on the
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missing person list. Her siblings were placed into protective custody.
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Jordan and pos Andrew were arrested for obstructing law enforcement.
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Deputies alleged that the parents could not provide any information
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or explanation about Oakley's whereabouts. Both have been identified as
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persons of interest in her abduction abduction. Did they sell her,
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did they need money? Did they give her to somebody?
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I mean, guys, I can't. I'm gonna pull my hair
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out now. Finally, they were charged and convicted of child
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or endangerment with a controlled substance in an unrelated case
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that the kids weren't taken away from them for they
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do remain persons of interest in Oakley's disappearance. A body
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has not been found. Okay. I want to know why
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they have him in charge with more. It makes zero
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sense to me. Okay. And here's where it gets scary
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and makes me wonder if they traded her to somebody
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or if they did something bad to her. In some
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court documents from twenty twenty three, there was allegations that
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Oakley had been kept in a locked cell underneath the stairs. Okay. Also,
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there was claims that the mother also physically abused her
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and that she needed money. They were desperate for money.
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legally deceased. They did that based on Oakley's siblings wanted
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to have her declared debt and guys, it's not a
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bad thing. They were hoping. I'm sure that it would
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be moved to a homicide case. Okay, and an attorney
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for the guardian ad litem later stated that decision was
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made on the evidence reviewed in the passage of time. Now, guys,
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I really okay, Oakley had been living with a foster
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mother from infancy until she was three, when she was
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sent back to biological parents. So from three to five,
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two years, guys two years and the child went missing.
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What concerns me is that they said they were desperate
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for money after the house burning. They needed to be
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able to repair the house or find something new. Okay,
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I mean, okay, now after that, Washington law requires them
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to conduct a child fatality review. Okay. They said that
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there is conflicting evidence. There is evidence that points to
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her biological parents being involved in her disappearance, possibly trading her,
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traffing her, or possibly they killed her. But without a body,
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they are not closing it. Okay. They are not saying
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that she's deceased. As far as the missing person case,
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she still is listed missing. Now. Oakley would be ten
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right now. So anyone with information about Oakley Carlson's disappearance
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is asked to contact the Grace Harbor County Sheriff's Office
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at three six oh nine six four one seven seven oh.
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Her parents don't deserve shit, but Oakley deserves to be found.
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If she was unalived, she deserves for her remains to
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be found so that they can be buried by her siblings, Okay.
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They deserve that closure. And if she was unlived, whoever
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did it, whether it was the parents or if they
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traded or somebody, those people deserve to go to jail
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for it. Okay. So please, I have not been doing
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a slideshow during today's because I'm on my laptop. The
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missing person posters will be posted to our mid Day
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Missing Facebook page as well as all of my social
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media pages, so please share those. Rows and Oakley both
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deserve to be found. Okay. Now, guys, I appreciate you
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being here with me today. Those of you on TikTok
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hope you love my office where I'm at. Those of
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you over on the other platforms, I hope you like
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my bad lighting and my virtual background. It means a
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lot to me for you guys to show up for
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these missing person cases. It is very important to me
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to share these cases and to get the word out
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because guys, it's the least we can do. It is
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the least we can do for these families. Now, I
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want you all to remember True Crime and mind time
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is back tonight eight pm Eastern with the ninth episode
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of The Frozen Baker story Robert Hansen from Alaska and
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I hate Alaska. I hate Robert Hanson, I hate everything
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about it. But I will be back tonight and hopefully
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if Loma's feeling better, she'll be with us. But guys,
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be safe. If you see something, say something, and just
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remember your silence only protects the perpetrators. Okay, bye, guys,
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take care and I will see you tonight
