Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Men Who Had His Ear (7/22/26)

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We're gonna keep pulling on this Jean Luke Brunel thread,
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and today we're going to talk about his ties to
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Steve Mnuchin. Steve Mnuchin is currently the treasure Secretary in
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Donald Trump's administration, and a guy that has always run
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in these circles, right. He was producing movies, always had
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big bucks, and has always been rubbing elbows with people
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in so called polite society. But isn't it strange that
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so many people in so called polite society have these
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ties to Jeffrey Epstein and his toad ass associates. It's
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all just a big coincidence though, right, That's what they
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would have you believe. But in reality, folks, both sides
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of the aisle, all of our leaders, everybody held up
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on a pedestal, seems to be a scumbag. And the
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sooner we understand that as a populace, the sooner we
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stop arguing with each other about which turd smells less
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like shit, the better off we're all gonna be. But
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as of now we've fallen right into their trap. They
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want you to hate your neighbor, they want you to
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hate your cousin, They want you to hate your friends.
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All for what reason? So we're easier to control. That's
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what this is all about, folks. Do you doubt it.
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We're talking about the CIA here, okay, the same people
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who brought in Japanese scientists who are engaging in biological
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experiments on human beings. Look up Unit thirty seven thirty one.
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Then what about all of the Nazis that they brought
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in to help them out and they just expunged all
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their records because guess what, it's for the greater good.
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The means justifies the end, and we see it over
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and over again throughout history. These are the same people,
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the CIA, the intelligence agencies, the FBI are politicians that
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were okay with bringing in these war criminals from Japan
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and Germany because you know, the greater good law. These
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are the same people that are busy protecting Jeffrey Epstein
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throughout the decades. So again, they don't have a track
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record of being honest or honorable, the intelligence agencies. In fact,
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it's the complete opposite. And then you add in all
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of these dumb ass rich billionaires that are so willing
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to be involved with these scumbags, and you have a
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recipe for disaster, and that is exactly where we are, Folks,
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both sides of the aisle, both groups of politicians, and
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everybody in between is busy gaslighting us. They're they're so
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concerned about making sure that the populaces always looked for
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a boogeyman so that we don't see what they're doing
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behind the curtain. And when you read articles like this
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with Steve manoochin Acosta, then on the other side you
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have you know, Bill Clinton, you have Ron Burkele. It
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goes on and on, right, The point is, if you're
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sitting at the buffet of confirmation bias, especially with this case,
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and you think it's just one side or the other,
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you are doing yourself a disservice and you are doing
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the case of disservice both sides of the aisle, Democrat, Republican,
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and all of the intelligence services and all of their minions,
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they all hold responsibility for what happened in this Jeffrey
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Epstein case. Remember, folks, four different presidencies. This has happened
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under four administrations and still no arrests. Well, today, today
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is Steve Mnuchin's turn to have the spotlight put on
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him and for the questions to be asked why were
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you involved in a relationship, business or otherwise with Jean
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Luke Brunel. Today's article is from The Daily Beast and
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the author is Emily Sugarman. And again the Daily Beast
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has done great work here, folks. Emily Sugarman has done
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fantastic work. Kate Bricolett has done incredible work. She's a
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very good journalist. And you know, the list goes on
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over here at the Daily Beast. And for me, I
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might not agree with their politics in some regard in
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some articles, but I don't care about any of that.
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All I care about is that they're being truthful when
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it comes to this story, that they're doing their their
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due diligence when it comes to this story, and that
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they're holding people account because you see, that's what journalists
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are supposed to do. They're supposed to hold people in
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power to account, not cover for them. Headline Steve Mnuchin's
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mysterious link to creepy Epstein Model Scout author Emily Sugarman.
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In the late nineteen eighties, before he was a member
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of Donald Trump's cabinet or even a high rolling hedge
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fund manager, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin served in an official
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capacity for a business run by one of Jeffrey Epstein's
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most infamous associates. How has Mnuchin not had to answer
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for this? I mean this is a serious, a serious situation.
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He has to answer for his relationship with John Luke Brunell.
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In official records, Mnuchin is listed as the official state
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point of contact for Next Management Corporation, a company formed
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in nineteen eighty eight by modeling modeling industry insiders Jean
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Luke Brunell and Arnaud Brunell. At the time, Jean Luke
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Burnell had just been the subject of a sixty minutes
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documentary accusing him of drugging and raping at least three models. Later,
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he would be accused by two women of supplying girls
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to Epstein to be sexually abused. Brunell has denied the allegations.
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So not only was Mnuchin involved with this scumbag clown,
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it was right around the same time that the allegations
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were first breaking that Jean Luke Brunell was drugging and
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raping girls. And yet Steve Mnuchin thinks it's a good
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idea to engage in business with this man. He thinks
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it's a good idea to be involved as a front
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for this company or as a point of contact for
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the next Management Corporation. Really, records accessed by The Daily
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Beast list Mnuchin as the New York Department of State
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process for Next Management Corporation. According to department officials, the
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DOS process is the person who files a company's registration
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papers and receives lawsuits and other official documents on their behalf,
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usually a lawyer or some other legal representative. So Mnuchin
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was in charge of receiving any sort of a lawsuit
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or document on the behalf of Jean lup Bernel's company next.
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And this isn't a bigger story. More people aren't talking
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about this. Look, people like Steve Mnuchin and the rest
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of these billionaires. I don't want them in the presidential cabinets.
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I don't want them in public office. You mean to
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tell me there's no better, nobody better to be in
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the Treasury Department secretary than this man. We have no
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better people to do this job in a country of
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three hundred and what sixty million people. I'm sorry, but
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I don't buy that. And furthermore, I'm pretty sick and
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tired of all of these billionaires sliding into these presidential
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cabinet positions with it's no sort of experience at statesmanship.
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A Treasury Department official said Mnuchin did not know he
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was listed as the DOS process for Next Management Corporation
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before the Daily Beasts inquiry. He said it was not
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clear how Manuchin wound up serving in that role, and
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added that the Secretary did not recall ever meeting either
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Brunell brother and had never done business with either of them.
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Oh yeah, your name just magically appeared on the document.
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It just showed up one day on the document. You
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know what, your pen, your crossman pen, got up and
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walked from your desk and went and signed the paperwork.
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Is that what you would have us believe there, mister Munuchin?
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How aren't more people digging into this? How come these
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aren't questions that are being asked at a huge rate
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and a fast clip. Munuchin's office did confirm that he
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was longtime friends with Faith Kates, the owner of the
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Next modeling agency. Well, how about that? Does it shock
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you that he's great friends with Faith Kates, another one
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of Jeffrey Epstein's confidants, another person that procured girls for
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Jeffrey Epstein, did the Trump transition team even bother to
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do their job. Or were they just like, all right,
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whoever wants a job, come on down. You guys want
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a job, come on down. That's basically what it looks like.
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Did they call like a service, an employment service to
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get these cabinet positions at filed? This is the best
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we got, huh, Steve Manouchin is the best we have,
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the best America has to offer for this position. If
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that's the case, folks, then forget it. We're done as
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a civilization. We might as well pack it in now
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and call it a day. The Brunel brothers co founded
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the Next Agency with Kate's in nineteen eighty nine, and
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their company, Next Management Corporation owned the t twenty five
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percent stake in the agency for several years. The address
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listed under Mnuchin's name is the State Department Records is
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the first address for Kate's company, Next Management Company. So again,
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he can say he doesn't know Brunell or his brother.
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He can act like he has no ideal or anything
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like or anything about any of this, But the reality
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is we know the truth. The evidence is right here.
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Your name just doesn't appear on a document like this
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Steve Mnuchin. Reached by the Daily Beast, Kate's denied any
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involvement with setting up Next Management Corporation and said she
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had nothing to do with Mnuchen serving as the DOS process.
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Nobody knows anything. They can't hear nothing, they saw nothing,
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they know nothing. How dare you for even asking? Don't
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you know that? I'm faith Kates given that she never
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designated anyone, including Secretary Mnuchin, to be DOS process or
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any officer or director of Next Management Corp. Again, I
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guess his name was just picked out of a hat.
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They were like, you know what, let's go through the
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yellow pages. We'll write down some names, and let's just
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yank one of them out of a hat. Really you
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think that's what occurred? Or do you think that mister
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Minuchin is not being honest with us. The spokesperson added
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that Kate's agency sued Next Management Corporation twenty five years
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ago over allegations that the Brunell brothers had raided the agency,
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and said Kate's had not had any contact with them
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since then. She said Kate's had no knowledge of why
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her company's address was listed in official records for Next
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Management Corporation. I mean, really, you don't know why your
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company's listed. Huh. Well, maybe it's the fact that you
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know Jeffrey Epstein and your boy there, Jean Luke Burnell
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were ponying updoe to you. Maybe it's the fact that
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they were closer to you than you would like to admit.
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And maybe it's the fact that what you're trying to
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do now is nothing but damage control. Do you ever
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think about that? Miss Kate's. Kate's has her own connections
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to Epstein. As The Daily Beast previously reported, former employees
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say the financier pedophile regularly dropped in on the agency's
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New York offices, and tax filings show he donated tens
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of thousands of dollars to charities connected to Kate's and
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her family. At least two former Next models have been
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romantically linked to Epstein, and a third appears in his
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infamous address book. A spokesperson for Kate said neither she
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nor the Next agency had any business or financial ties
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to Epstein, and that Kate's never introduced the financier pedophile
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to any models. That is such a lie. That is
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such a lie. We read earlier that the employees said
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something completely different, that there'd always be a girl waiting
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for him there, that Brunell would send girls there to
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be to wait for Epstein, therefore acting as a hub
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for human trafficking. And this is what Steve Mnuchin's name's on,
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this is what Steve Mnuchin was involved in. We gotta
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do better, America. Come on, we have to do better.
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And when I say we have to do better, believe me,
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I don't mean Joe Biden either. Okay, we have to
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do better selecting our candidates, selecting the people that are
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going to govern us. Mnuchin has been friends with Kate's
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for approximately thirty years, according to the Treasury Department official,
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and once helped Kate set up a business as a friend. Boy,
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that's nice. I wish I had some friends that would
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come over and help me set up some businesses without
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expecting anything. I'm sure that mister Mnuchin didn't expect anything
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from Kate's if he was setting up the business for
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he is just a friend. A spokesperson for Kate's confirmed
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the two had been friendly for decades. She said Manuchin
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had offered Kate's business advice when she started Next management
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company and served as a real estate broker man Minuchin
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is a man of many talents, real estate broker, treasure secretary,
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hedge fund manager. Guy that signs for John Luke Brenell.
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I guess he could add that to his resume as well.
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Mnuchin spokesperson said the Secretary had no ownership in any
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of Kate's businesses or serve them in any business capacity.
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The records say differently, And if it's not the case,
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then who's committing fraud by putting their name down there, sir.
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The Daily Beast was unable to reach Jean luc or
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are Not Brunell for comment. The ties between John Luke
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Brunell and Epstein, however, have been widely reported. Flight records
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show Brunell flew on the pedophile's private plane more than
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twenty times between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and five,
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and how staff said in depositions that the modeling agent
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was a regular presence at Epstein's Palm Beach estate. So,
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just for context for a second, Brunell flew on the
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plane twenty times between ninety nine and two thousand and five.
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Good Old Bill my gumaud is Gilan Maxwell. He flew
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on the plane at least twenty six times, according to reports.
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So again, if you think this is just one side
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of the if you think it's just the Republicans, or
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you think it's just the Democrats, well you're wrong. When
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Epstein was arrested in two thousand and eight, Brunell visited
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him nearly seventy times in jail. I don't even think
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house seventy times, never mind in jail. One of Epstein's
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first public accusers, Virginia Roberts, claimed Epstein forced her to
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sleep with Brunell and many other powerful men in the
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years he kept her as his base as his prisoner.
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She also accused Brunell of using his modeling industry connections
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to supply Epstein and other wealthy men with foreign girls
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to abuse. And we know for a fact that this
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was occurring, not only the very credible statements of Virginia,
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but we have all of the other corroborating evidence here
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the employees, etc. Etc. I mean, the cops from Reno
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nine to one point one could prosecute this kid. A
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former bookkeeper for one of Brunell's agencies told the FBI
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in twenty ten that Brunel used the company to bring
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in teenage models from around the world and house them
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in Epstein's Upper east Side apartments. The bookkeeper claimed the
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girls were loaned out to wealthy clients for as much
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as one hundred thousand dollars a night and were not
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paid if they were refused to be molested. We talked
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about that earlier and it just goes It just defies
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reason that these disgusting ass so called members of polite
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society are willing to pay one hundred thousand dollars a
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night to abuse these girls. What in the f is
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wrong with these people? I mean, are they all inbred
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and suffering from some sort of mental deficiency. French authorities
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are currently seeking Brunell as part of their probe into Epstein,
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and recently interviewed two women who say they were victims
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of the modeling agent in the late seventies and early eighties.
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According to French newspaper Barryson, Brunell has denied all claims
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of sexual misconduct, as well as any knowledge of Epstein's wrongdoings.
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In legal filings, he said the former bookkeeper had been
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fired from his agency for embezzling company funds. Yeah, It's
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always the same story, right, Oh, this one's lying, that
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one's lying. I'm the only one telling the truth. Meanwhile,
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you're the biggest scumbag in the room, mister Brunel, and
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I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun
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was going to rise tomorrow. I strongly deny having participated
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neither directly nor indirectly in the actions mister Jeffrey Epstein
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is being accused of. Brunell said in twenty fifteen statement,
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I strongly deny having committed any illicit or any wrongdoing
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in the course of my work as a scouter or
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a model agencies manager. Yes, okay, sure, right, Just like Baghdad,
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Bob said that the American troops weren't on there. There
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weren't in Baghdad, right during the Iraq in vision. That's
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basically what you look like, mister Brunell. Oh yeah, nothing
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to see here. Meanwhile, there's evidence that's mounted up, piled
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high all around you, so high that you'll suffocate it
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in it. If you walked into a room and you
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mean to tell us that you had nothing to do
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with Jeffrey Epstein, Huh, You, of all people, had nothing
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to do with Jeffrey Epstein, Well, sir, the evidence and
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many many different girls and witnesses. They all say you're
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a liar, and guess what, I believe them. If you'd
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like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
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Kapouchi at protonmeil dot com. That's Bobby underscore capu Cci
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at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
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Twitter at Bobby underscore cap u Cci. Hello everyone, and
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welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Kapuuci,
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and this is a morning update. What's up everyone in
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Green Sin City. So, Michael Wolfe has a new book
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out and he has some pretty damning things to say
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about everyone's favorite person, Donald Trump. Now again, Michael wolf
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has been known to spin some tails. So if you
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want to take it with a grain of salt, fine.
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For those of you who don't want to take it
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with a grain of salt, that's fine too. That's up
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to you. So let's jump into this article from the
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Daily Beast and let's just see what in the hell
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is going on here. Author of this article, Lachlan Cartwright headline,
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Jeffrey Epstein bragged Bill Barr was in charge, not Trump.
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I mean, it seems like everybody was in charge besides Trump.
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According to the talking heads. Every time a new book
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comes out, we have a new person who was running
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things behind the scenes. So who was it? I'm confused.
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Was it Bill Barr? Was it Jeff Sessions? Was it?
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I don't you know. Everybody has a different story. Sorry
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for us. One thing's pretty clear though. It was an
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absolute shit show in the Trump administration. An absolute shit show.
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So that's a fact. But all the other stuff, I mean,
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who knows, who knows what's for real and what's not.
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When it comes to this part of the story of
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the world, Let's dive in and let's see what mister
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Lachlan Cartwright has to say. A controversial new book from
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journalist Michael Wolf claims that the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bragged
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that Bill Barr was the man in charge during Trump's
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time in office, and that the president lets someone else
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be in charge until other people realize that someone other
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than him is in charge. When that happens, you're no
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longer in charge. Is this an episode of the Three Stooges? What? Really?
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This is the best we can do. At the top
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of the ticket here in America, and everybody wonders why
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shit's going say, everybody wonders why shelves are empty. And
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it wasn't just Trump. By the way, Trump is a
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symptom of the problem. Folks making him the problem, Well,
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that makes people not understand what's really going on. Oh,
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he's a big part of it, no doubt about it.
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Everybody who's one of the so called elite is. But
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this whole entire situation here, I mean, you're in charge,
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then you're in charge. What is it like a game
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of tag? If you get tagged last, then you're in
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charge for the month. The tomb too famous, the rich,
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the powerful, the wishful, the notorious, and the damned. Also
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claims that Steve Bannon and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud
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Barack tried to help Epstein rehabilitate his image, even suggesting
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that he tried to get favorable coverage on Rachel Maddow
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or sixty Minutes. Now. Look, I am not the biggest
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fan of Rachel Maddow. I call her the left's version
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of Sean Hannity in fact, but I highly doubt that
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he'd be going on to the Rachel Maddow show to
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fix his image. As much as I don't agree with
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Rachel Maddow with most things she says, I don't think
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she's an evil person or a bad person, and I
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don't think she'd be helping Jeffrey Epstein refurbish his image. Now,
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the caveat to all of that is who the hell
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knows what MSNBC would be up to. But just because
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they suggested that they go on Rachel Maddow doesn't mean
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Rachel Maddow had anything to do with it. I've seen
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some people try and spin this into well, Rachel Maddow
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was going to help Epstein. Now that's really not what
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the book says or the article says. Now would I
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be shocked if that evidence was provided at some point? No,
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I wouldn't be. Again, nothing shocks me with these people.
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After all we have seen, after all all we have
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experienced in the last three years and longer for some
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of you, How can anyone have any faith in anything
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at this point. That's why it's bizarre to me when
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I see people who are gung ho about this Epstein
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case and who have totally bought in on the fact
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that the FBI and the CIA were providing him cover
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out of the other side of their mouth. They talk
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about how the FBI is going to get this one
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or that one. I don't know how people come to
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terms with that and what it does. It really exposes
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a lot of people in their biases. You know, during
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the last administration, you had a lot of people running
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around pointing fingers, talking about this one's bias, that one's bias.
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But now we're really seeing who is biased, and it's
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pretty obvious. So all those people who are running around
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talking about, oh, everything, everything's falling apart, everything's in danger,
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and now they're quiet about it, Well, guess what. Things
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are still falling apart, and we're very close to really
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slipping into a place we don't want to go, according
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to Wolfe, who reportedly tried to buy New York magazine
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with Epstein and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, Barack asked
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Epstein the million dollar question of who was in charge
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at the White House. What I know. What I want
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to know from all from you, all knowing people, is
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who is in charge? Who is? Barack said, putting on
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an American accent over as often impenetrable Israeli one calling
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the shots. This was a resumption of the reliable conversation
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around Epstein the Vagaries of Donald Trump, once among Epstein's
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closest friends. Here is the question every government is asking.
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Trump is obviously not in charge because he is Huh,
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what does that even mean? So I guess Trump's down
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in charge because Barr is in charge. According to Wolf,
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I don't buy that. Okay, I don't believe that Bill
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Barr was in charge. Now do I believe that Bill
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Barr exerted a lot of influence over Trump as far
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as legal stuff goes, absolutely one. But this comment here
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that Barr was in control, I don't know if I
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buy that. Wolf claims that Epstein interrupted the former politico
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and called Trump his former playboy party pal, a moron.
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Then confided, at the moment Bill Barr is in charge,
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the pedophile financier continued, It's Donald's pattern. He lets someone
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else be in charge until other people realize that someone
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other than him is in charge. When that happens, you're
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no longer in charge. Barack allegedly pressed, but let me
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ask you, why do you think Bill Barr took this
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job knowing all this? The motivation is simple, money, Epstein replied,
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bar believes he'll get a big payday out of this
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if he keeps Donald in office, manages to hold the
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Justice Department together and help the Republican Party survive Donald.
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He thinks this is worth big money to him. I
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speak from direct knowledge, extremely direct trust me. Now, remember
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this is Epstein saying this, and we know that Epstein
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is not really a reliable narrator, right, So that's why
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I prefaced all of this with take it with a
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grain of salt. Michael Wolf has been known to make
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some pretty silly comments in the past, so I don't
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take everything he writes as one hundred percent truth. Everything
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is taken with a discerning eye. The book also claims
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that Epstein and Barack, along with Epstein's lawyer Reed Weingarten,
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called Steve Bannon, a new friend who had been introduced
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in December twenty seventeen, oh after Trump was elected huh interesting,
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and talked over a pr strategy with him to rehabilitate
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Epstein's image. After the damaging expose by the Miami Herald
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dredged up allegations that Epstein had molested and raped dozens
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of underage girls at his properties in Palm Beach, New York,
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and his private island in the Caribbean. Batan told The
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New York Times that he disputed wolf'sccount of the conversation
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and that he never media trained anyone. Okay, well, the
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Bannon disputes it. So again, you have two notorious liars here,
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Bannon and Wolf, and it's up to you, the fantastic listeners,
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to figure it out. You know me, I don't tell
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you folks what to think. I don't tell you folks
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what to do or how you should go about your lives.
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I'm here to narrate this story. I'm here to chronicle it,
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and if I have a few opinions that I want
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to slip in there about my personal views, that's what
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I'll do. But as far as telling anyone how they
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should think or what they should believe, certainly not going
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to happen on this podcast. Wolf claims that Bannon laughed
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at Epstein, you were the only person I was afraid
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of during the campaign, and that Epstein replied, as well,
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you should have been. The pair had deeply bonded. The
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book says, partly out of the shared incredulous incredulousness about
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Donald Trump, Bannon was often astonished by what Epstein knew.
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Now again, it could be very possible. We know for
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a fact, and it's not disputable that Donald Trump and
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Jeffrey Epstein palled around for a very long time in
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the nineties and the early two thousands. We know that,
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and anybody who tries to say differently is engaging in
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some gaslighting. Wolf paints Bannon as a man who was
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eager to advise Epstein on rehabbing his image, despite the
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many serious accusations against him that that he had serially,
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serially holy cow, serially prayed on the very young and
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vulnerable girls. So where is the Comm's piece in this?
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The book quotes Bannon is asking who's handling it, who's
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on point? Are these your people? Read? The book says
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Bannon pressed Winegarten, Epstein and Barack about why there was
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no communications team and asked what was the response from
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Jeffrey's side to the Florida story? Who engaged? He probably
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can't be hated anymore. We flatlined on this. He can't
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get debtor. While the chances of reviving him are remote,
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what's the alternative? So it just shows you the sick
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character of Steve Bannon as well. He's a sick, disgusting,
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decrepit ole bastard in my opinion, and he is a
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harmful human being. Now, I'm not going to sit here
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and say, oh, he should be silenced. I don't believe
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in that. As somebody who has been censored themselves, I
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don't believe in silencing people like him. What I believe
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in is challenging his ideas head on and shattering them
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with the actual And that's the way it's supposed to go.
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You're not supposed to censor people you don't agree with,
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or people who might have a different opinion than you.
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You destroy that opinion in the public square. And if
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you can't do it, get out of the way and
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let somebody who can do Wolfe says Winegarten then suggested
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trying to arrange an appearance on sixty Minutes or Gail King,
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to which Bannon dryly pointed out how well that had
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worked for singer R. Kelly. King's interview with Kelly was
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widely regarded as a disaster. Kelly later was convicted of
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sexual exploitation of children. Well, what do you know, every
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one of these guys that goes and gives an interview
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gets absolutely crushed. And you know why, well, because they're
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the lying. Okay, point blank period. If you're not telling
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the truth, well, not too hard to get crushed. Winegarton
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fumbled about, suggesting maybe an advocate or a surrogate could
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go on sixty minutes to plead Epstein's case. Dude, come on,
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Bannon allegedly replied, in exasperation, Well, Rachel Maddow. Then Winingarten replied,
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you're the Jeffrey surrogate sitting with Rachel Maddow, and she's
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going to say how many girls were there? Were theyre? Ten?
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Were there a one hundred? One thousand? Bannon continued, According
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to the book, now you're on national television, what do
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you say. I'm confident it's less than a thousand, was it,
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he asked Epstein? Yes, less, the multi millionaire said. The
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book then recounts a horrifying exchange between Bannon and Epstein. Actually,
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here is the first question, said Bannon, what's the age
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of the youngest girl? That would be good, said Epstein,
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because the answer to that question is that there was
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one girl who was fourteen years old, and she told police,
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she lied about her age. She told everyone she was
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eighteen because she was afraid she would never be allowed
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into the house and never be invited back. That's the
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only one. That's the only one who was under the
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age of eighteen. No, the youngest one. I mean really,
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and we know it's not fourteen. We know it's younger
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than that. Even the fact that Bannon was sitting here
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with him shouldn't shock anybody, but it is extra cringeworthy,
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extra cringeworthy considering what a scumbag Bannon is himself. Wolfe's
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book portrays Epstein in a circle of confidants as men
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who saw the outside world as a place increasingly hostile,
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not just to Epstein, the easy fall guy, but to
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themselves as well. Wingarten allegedly moaned that we are on
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the absolute other side of every cultural issue that has
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currency right now. Yeah, no shit, The tables have termed
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m effort, and your days are running the narrative with
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your powerful law firms are long over. So enjoy it.
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Enjoy the wave that you have all created, and when
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the tsunami comes pouring over, you don't come crying to us.
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In absolute juxtaposition to the view in the outside world,
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the view among Epstein's wide circle of loyal, devoted, and
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largely unquestioning friends, was that Epstein was guilty of only
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venal sins, that he had more than paid for them
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with his plea to prostitution in two thousand and eight,
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serving thirteen months in a Palm Beach jail, and that
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ever since, and with increasing zeal, he was being pursued
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by plaintiffs and their lawyers, all with clear financial interests,
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and a media that feeding off unchallenged and self serving allegations,
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had found a handy personification of evil wolf rites. No
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nobody had to find anything. It was right there, just
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to be exposed. And when it was exposed, everybody took note,
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and everybody, for the most part, is sickened by what happened. Barak,
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who Wolf calls a frequent guest, a normal fixture at
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Epstein's mansion where he suspected there were hidden cameras allegedly
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complained prostitution, it seems, is no longer called prostitution. It
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is something else, much worse. Underage prostitution is an oxy moron.
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Under American law, it is considered rape. So yeah, hued Breck,
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you're a sick fucking bastard too, Okay, you and your
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trips to the apartment building over on East sixty six.
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What you think we forgot about that? Oh you're on
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the ray at our Barack, believe it. Wolfe says Barack
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was part of a revolving door of friends, acquaintances, experts,
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visiting international dignitaries and despots, petitioners for contributions and investments, lawyers,
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and other holders of vast fortunes, a network of worldly
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influence and interest arguably as great as any in New
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York who sat at Epstein's dining conference table engaged in
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something that was part seminar, part gossip, part coffee clatch,
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and part elite conspiracy. Elsewhere, Wolf claims Barrock joked that
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we have nothing to worry about. The secrets are safe.
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Oh I bet they are. I bet they are at
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whud Barock, And I wonder what part you played and
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making sure they stayed that way. Epstein, whom Wolf characterizes
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as a germophobe who would not even shake hands with
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close friends, touching their elbows, instead, refused to take his
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predicament seriously and responded flippantly. Flippantly when talked of his
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crimes came up when Wingarten allegedly whined, every time I
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turn on the television and look for the Celtics score,
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I see that. My boy is a monster, everybody's favorite monster,
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the devil, pedophile, sex trafficker keeping little girls in the basement.
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Trump friend Epstein then joked that would be the worst. Wow.
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I mean, if this book is real and this stuff
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really happens, can you happen? Can you? Can you imagine
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what it must have been like to be a fly
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on the wall. Later, the pedophile asked what kind of
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cover do we get from Bob Kraft, the New England
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Patriots owner who had been arrested for allegedly patronizing a
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Palm Beach massage shop. You know, the whole thing that
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got dropped by the way Bob gets dinner. Bob gets
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dinner out, I get taken, said Epstein, with a flippancy
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that often exasperated the people trying to help defend him.
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So what he means by that is, you know, Bob
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Craft would go to these places to get his jolly's
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to go do whatever it is he was doing. But Epstein,
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I don't bother with that. I have these girls come
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to me. That's what he's saying there, And it's so
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gross when you think about it, with everything we know,
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so absolutely disgusting. Epstein's powerful circle saw him and a
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stute student of power and a collector of powerful friends
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as somehow particularly unsuited to this power game. Wolf writes
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too much, the free spirit, too much, the helpless bad
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boy two e list to properly protect himself, Epstein characterized
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his troubles as a chronic illness. It can't be cured,
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but it won't kill me. Months later, he was dead
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in a jail cell. So there you have it, folks,
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the book from Michael Wolf to talk about Donald Trump
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and Bill Barr actually being the one at the controls
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and all of the other juicy little tidbits that mister
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Wolf has for you. Personally, I know the whole entire
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thing was a shit show, and I know that none
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of these presidents are really running the show anyway, So
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that much smack's true to me. But I will leave
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it up to you, the listeners, to come up with
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your own decision and blow wherever you think the wind
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is going. If you'd like to contact me, you can
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do that at Bobby Kapucci at protonmel dot com. That's
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Bo b b Y c ap you Cci at ProtonMail
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dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
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Bobby Underscore c ap u c CI. All of the
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links that go with this episode can be found in
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the description box. All right, folks, I'll be back tomorrow
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and we'll pick up where we left off. Have a
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great Saturday. Everyone doesn't come as a shock to me,
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and it shouldn't come as a shock to anybody else.
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That disgusting. Ask Steve Bannon would be working with Jeffrey
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Epstein in any capacity. So let's jump into this article
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from The Guardian real quick, and let's see what's going
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on with Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein. Headline Steve Bannon
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prep Jeffrey Epstein for CBS interview. Michael wolf claims, Now,
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I'll caveat here. Michael Wolfe has played with the truth
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in the past, right, so take it for what it's worth. Obviously,
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I can't confirm any of this. I can't you know.
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I wasn't there. I don't have the sources he has
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or whatever that that he sat down with, So I
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can't you know, say to you, oh, yeah, this is
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one hundred percent factual. Has happened but this is what
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Michael Wolf is saying happened. And when it comes to
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somebody like Steve Bannon, I don't doubt it in the least.
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Steve Bannon doesn't give a fuck who you are. He's
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trying to fill his pockets with all of the gold
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he could possibly find, Pilford or not. And if that
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means working with a pedophile, a rapist, a disgusting fuck
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like Jeffrey Epstein, all you got to do is show
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Steve Bannon where to sign on the line. This article
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was authored by Martin Pengilely for The New York Times.
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Jeffrey Epstein he gave a series of interviews on film
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in twenty nineteen in which his interviewer said, the financier,
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convicted sex trafficker, pedophile was engaging, not threatening, and not
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at all creepy, a sympathetic figure breaking news. Okay, there
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is no kind of refurbish or polish that you can
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put on Jeffrey Epstein to not make him creepy, to
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not make him look like a disgusting individual. Okay, even
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Steve Bannon, with all of his disgusting tricks, couldn't have
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pulled this off. The interviewer was the former Trump strategist
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Steve Bannon. The episode, as reported by The New York Times,
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is described in a book of profiles Too Famous, the Rich,
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the Powerful, the Wishful, the Notorious, the Damned, due out
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in October. The author is Michael Wolfe, who wrote Fire
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and Fury and two Other Experts is of Donald Trump's presidency.
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Now again, like I said, with Michael wolf he is
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a muckraker, right, Definitely one of those guys that likes
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to stir the pot, stir shit up. Some of his
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comments have been proven been proven false, but some of
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the other stuff he's talked about has been spot on.
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So again, when it comes to somebody like Michael wolf
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you're gonna have to make your own decisions on what
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you believe and what you don't believe. Some of the
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stuff he talks about is so bombastic that I have
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a hard time believing it without evidence. Right. Here's the thing,
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I'm at a point right now where whenever I see
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unnamed sources, I almost feel like the legacy media is
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almost making things up at that point, and then just
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protecting their misinformation by labeling it anonymous source you know,
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or source close to the incident that can't speak on it.
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So I'm so cynical when it comes to the legacy media.
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When I hear an anonymous source, I almost automatically think
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that the legacy media is making some shit up. The
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Times also reported that Bannon told Epstein to look directly
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into the camera now and then so as not to
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come across as stupid, and advised his subject not this
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year is racist theories on how black people learn. Oh,
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isn't that nice? Not only was he an absolute disgusting rapist,
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scumbag pedophile, he was also a disgusting rapist pedophile. I mean,
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we heard what Maria had to say about how these
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folk liked to talk about people of color, and it
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was absolutely disgusting. Then this is just more of a confirmation,
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you know, when I talk about all of those little
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gold nuggets we find in these articles, here's one right here,
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Steve Bannon talking about this goes and corroborates what Maria
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said previously. If you weren't paying attention to the case
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and you're not following it closely, you'll miss all of that.
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And a guy like Steve Bannon certainly knows who Jeffrey
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Epstein is certainly knows what Jeffrey Epstein is and knows
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that Jeffrey Epstein is obviously a racist, so he's coaching
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him to avoid talking about that, not saying to him, look, dude,
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you shouldn't be a racist. He's sick. Fuck what he
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was wrong with you? No, he's coaching him how to
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avoid looking like one. And that's the big problem, isn't it.
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We have so many people who walk around with this
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false face on, and it's hard to, you know, disseminate
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who's who's. You really can't decide sometimes what's what and
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who's who. Because people are good, right, people are good
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at the hustle. They'll have you believe in that they
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care about the world. They'll have you believe in all
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kinds of crazy shit, and before you know it, you'll
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be putting hashtag insert dumbass politician's name into your social
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media profile and fighting with your friends about it. But
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in reality, that same person that acts like they care
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about you really fucking does not care about you. And
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those are just the facts. It doesn't matter which politician
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it is or which side of the aisle they're standing on. Mainly,
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mister Bannon tells mister Epstein he should stick to his message,
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which is that he is not a pedophile. By the end,
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mister Bannon seems impressed. Well, I don't see why you wouldn't.
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I mean, you have, uh, two people who are basically
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demons walking the earth, right. I'm not a religious guy
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or whatever, but I think that that's a good way
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to explain these dudes, this whole entire circle. I mean,
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each one of them scummier and shittier than the next.
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It seems like the fact that Bannon sitting here coaching
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Jeffrey Epstein, it's just I can't even explain to you
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how ridiculous it is. Two of the scummiest dudes in
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the world sitting down, and Bannon's like, look, I'm a
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little less scummy than you. At least I'm not accused
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of raping kids and stuff, So I guess I can
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coach you a little bit here. Huh. Maybe Leon Black
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should have just called Steve Bannon and avoided getting the
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advice from Jeffrey Epstein altogether, because obviously Steve Bannon's the
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real guru. Right, you need your reputation repaired. Call in
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Steve Bannon, a man of integrity, a pillar of the community,
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said nobody ever, It is absolutely hilarious that Jeffrey Epstein
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would think having Steve Bannon working with him is a
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good idea. Reports that the interviews were preparation for an
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interview with CBS sixty Minutes sixty Minutes, which never occurred.
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Bannon confirmed to the Times that he taked more than
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fifteen hours of interviews with Epstein, but said he was
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not media training him, but rather making a previously unannounced
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eight to ten hour documentary about Epstein's perversions and depravity
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towards young women and links to the global establishment. Oh,
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is that what it was, Steve Bannon? You were making
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a documentary about Jeffrey Epstein? Is it? I mean, does
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anybody believe a guy like Steve Bannon at this point?
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Anybody out there believe anything he has to say? I mean,
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I certainly don't. The guy's a straight up fool. Earlier
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this year, Ira Rose, in a veteran Sixty Minutes producer,
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discussed how he set up one of the all time
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great sixty Minutes interviews with Bannon himself. Bannon, he said,
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told him he believed Trump had early stage dementia and
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Mike be removed from office. That claim did not make
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the final tape. Yo, what's with all right, let's just
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get to it right right away and be right up
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front with it. What's with electing these old ass dudes
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all the time? We ain't got somebody a little bit
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younger who has you know, their faculties about them. It's
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quite obvious that Uncle Junior Soprano aka Joe Biden has
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no idea where he is anytime he gets on a stage, right,
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I'm waiting for him to yell at one of the
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reporters and call them pussy malanga before he goes running
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off of the stage. I mean, are you guys kidding me?
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Right now? With these old ass dudes? There's three hundred
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and fifty billion thousand people that are available for American idol,
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and these old ass dementia ridden people are the only
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ones that we have to choose from for president. That
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doesn't seem wrong to anybody else. Maybe I'm maybe I'm
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the one who's fucked up right. Maybe I'm the one
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who is misinterpreting the world and everything's fantastic with these
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old guys. As president asked by Yahoo Knews, how seriously
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people should take Bannon's claims. Rosen said the trick in
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trying to deal with Steve was to work out how
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much was meant simply to draw attention to himself. And
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there's a lot of bombastic people like that, right, and
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most of them find themselves somehow ironically and Trump's circle,
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don't they pretty weird how that happens. Epstein was convicted
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in two thousand and eight of soliciting sex from underage girls.
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He killed himself allegedly in custody in August of twenty nineteen,
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awaiting trial on new sex trafficking charges. His former girlfriend,
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co conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scusbag and
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bipudal serpent, Gilan Maxwell awaits charges in New York on
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sex trafficking charges. Waits trial in New York Excuse me
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on sex trafficking charges. She is pleaded not guilty. Last week,
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Prince Andrew was served with an affid David in a
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lawsuit brought by Epstein's survivor, Virginia Roberts, who says she
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was forced to have sex with him when she was seventeen,
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an allegation the Prince absolutely and categorically denies, well we're
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gonna see what's what soon with that, right, that phone
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call with the judge presiding over the Virginia Roberts suit,
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that's going to happen today, So obviously we're going to
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have another talk about that later on after that all
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occurs and we get to hear a little bit about
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what happened, we'll definitely recount that. But that's happening later
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on today, a couple hours from now, a few hours
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from now. Bannon, a hard right political gadfly who chaired
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the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen, was a major source
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for Fire and Fury, Wolfe's huge bestseller about the first
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year of the Trump presidency. So there's no doubt that
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Steve Bannon is a me man. He doesn't have loyalty
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to Trump, or to party, or to country, or to
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anybody but himself and his bank account. And one of
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his favorite things to do is try and manipulate people, right,
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try and get people all fired up, try to get
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people foaming at the mouth, try to create a boogeyman.
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And it's something that both sides love to do, right.
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They have to have a boogeyman or none of their
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bullshit divisiveness works. Baden left the White House in August
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twenty seventeen amid uproar over a neo Nazi march in Charlottesville, Virginia,
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but he remained a key figure in the Trump world
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and an influence on Wolf's next two books, Siege and Landslide.
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Trump pardoned Bannon on charges of fraud. Of course he did.
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All of these presidents are going to do that same
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exact thing, make sure their buddies are taken care of
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when the time's right. Take a look at how many
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people Bill Clinton pardoned. Just another one of these so
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called traditions that we should all just accept. Here's an
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idea you should They should have to pardon people who
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are serving sentences on low level drug offenses, possession and
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shit like that. Instead, they'll pardon all of their political buddies. Right.
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But you're the one who's crazy if you take a
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look at it and you call it for what it is,
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you're the one who's engaging in the ultimate act of
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rebellion by asking questions. These days, well, let me tell you, folks,
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keep asking those questions. The Times reported that Wolf also
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recounts an offer from the film producer Harvey Weinstein may
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during his rape trial, in which he was convicted last year,
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to co write an autobiography. Wolf also told the paper
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Epstein wanted me to write something about him, a kind
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of book, though it wasn't clear why. Well, alrighty then,
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so according to Wolf, this is what went down. And
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again I can't confirm or deny any of that stuff.
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I don't know, right, I don't have access to Steve
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Bannon or any of these people. I'm not a journalist,
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like I always tell you, I just commentate on what
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these knuckleheads are up to. And when it comes to
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Steve Bannon, one thing I know for sure is he
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is one of the most self serving me first mfs
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in the whole entire world. And any kind of press
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for Steve Bannon is good press. So again, you never
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know with somebody like this when it comes to what
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they're up to. Right when you're looking at it from
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a strategy point of view, a guy like Steve Bannon
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is very, very shifty, hard to pin down. You don't
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know what he's going to be doing next. But one
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thing is certainly clear. Steve Bannon is a fellow traveler.
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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that.
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At Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
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B b Y c A p U c c I
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at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
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Twitter at b O B B y underscore c A
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p U C c I. All of the links that
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