Alien Super Vortex Part 4

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Welcome to the Paranormal Report. I
am your AI host, Brian sporting my
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English accent this time. Once again, please don't forget to click on those
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links. So the story I want
to review today has traveled all over the
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world many times, and I know
it sounds preposterous on its face, the
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idea that some slightly off kilter nerdish
guy in glasses could be hired into classified
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programs even though his educational credentials are
practically non existent. His work history is
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sketchy. He's been discredited and dismissed
by people he worked with and worked for.
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There's no way that this guy would
ever be allowed access to top secret
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materials if we want to roll number
one. No way he'd see classified files.
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No way, let alone that he
would blow the whistle on some of
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the deepest, darkest secrets of all
time. But of course we do know
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that Edward Snowden really did work for
the CIA and the NSA, even though
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he had no college degrees. He
dropped out of high school, he dropped
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out of the military. He was
working as a security guard right before he
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was hired by the CIA, and
then later worked for private contractors for the
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n essay and was able to access
the most sensitive information in the U.
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S. Government, which he subsequently
leaked. Tonight, I'm here to talk
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about another slightly nerdish guy in glasses, a whistleblower named Bob Lazar. Is
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it fair to compare the two of
these guys tonight? I'll take you step
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by step through this story to see
if this comparison is valid. Both men
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work on classified projects for spooky agencies. Both presumably were not qualified to be
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in those positions. Their personal lives
were spotty, their educational credentials questionable.
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Both were very bright guys whose lack
of formal credentials was not an impediment to
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getting them work in places that seemingly
should be off limits. I think Bob
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lasar story, the one you're about
to hear now, demonstrates that those three
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letter agencies that are probably represented here
in one of these tables will hire almost
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anyone if it means there's a better
chance of getting the job done. That's
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the reason, for example, that
CIA came to my hometown, Las Vegas
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in the early nineteen sixties to hire
the mafia to kill for Del Castro.
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It's why the CIA and Dea have
made deals with drug cartels. It's why
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we've had on the government payroll scumbag
dictators like Saddam Hussein and Manuel Noriega.
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It's why journalists and entertainers and others
have been recruited over the decades to work
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for these agencies. They do what
they need to do to get the job
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done, and they will make a
deal with the devil if it means getting
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the job done and doing it well. It's now twenty five years since I
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got sucked into the world of Averia
fifty one and Flying Saucers and Bob Laza,
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and I was pretty sure back in
May of nineteen eighty nine that this
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could be somewhat explosive story, that
it might make some waves for a while.
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I had no idea that I'd still
be talking about it a quarter of
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a century later, that it would
travel all over the world. I was
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pretty sure it was going to make
some changes in Bob Lasar's life, maybe
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save his life, which is one
of the reasons he came forward. And
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I guessed it was going to cause
a little bit of a hubbub at the
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base itself. That's the place with
no name, It's the place with many
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names. I will go over some
of them, but I had no idea
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it was going to change my life
in the ways that it has, and
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I mean it has. I'm here, after all, since the theme of
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this move On Symposium this year is
UFOs and the Media, I thought we'd
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explore together how this story's bread out, how it became a transcendent meme.
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The way in which the story spread
I think would be by itself, something
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that intelligence agencies would want to study, or sociologists or academics who look into
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media issues, information theory. I
mean, it has been astonishing, at
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least from my end, and I
have had a pretty good seat. I'll
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just tell you a little bit about
myself and how I got into it.
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I started as a journalist in Las
Vegas back in nineteen eighty one, mostly
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in television, but some in print
and, as John mentioned, radio.
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Over the years, I've covered pretty
much every story you would expect somebody a
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journalist in Las Vegas to cover a
lot of organized crime, a lot of
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mob stories, political corruption. We've
got our share out there, sex scandals,
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celebrity goofballs, environmental catastrophes, drought, the foreclosure crisis, drug dealers,
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gun runners, murders, bikers,
fires, stick ups, pot farmers,
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crack peddlers, scams, ripoffs,
scumbags, bone heads, and Butch
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Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid.
And you know, along the way,
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I've broken some pretty good stories.
I've got a couple of awards here and
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there, and in my hometown I
was considered a fairly good reporter, mainstream
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guy. That is until nineteen eighty
nine, when I went completely off the
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rails and started covering ufoes. I
am sure that this is true for many
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of you. In my town,
I'm the UFO guy, and I'll bet
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in your town most of you are
the UFO guy or UFO gal in your
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families. Somebody sees a flying saucer
on television, go tell crazy Uncle Bob
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about the UFO story. We're all
the UFO guys, you know. I
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mean, as with many of you
and my fellow speakers who are here.
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Not the day goes by when I
don't get calls from Iceland or Ecuador or
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an E from all points in between
about some UFO sighting or flying saucer event.
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Everywhere I go in Las Vegas,
I get stopped to talk about UFOs.
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I'm in the grocery store shopping,
they stop and want to talk to
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me. I'm in the restaurant.
I can't tell how many times I'm sitting
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there in a booth and somebody will
just slide on in while I'm eating and
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start talking about UFOs. I've had
people stop me at the urinal. I'm
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at the urinal. Hey man,
I'm a little busy here. I'm not
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making that up. And they will
ask me, do you really believe that
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UFO stuff? Is that for real? Are you on the level? They
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don't care whether I believe it or
not. What they want is they want
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to tell me their UFO story,
what they saw. The level of interest
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in this stuff is amazing. For
some reason. You know, my colleagues
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in the media are not okay with
this. They can't quite get her head
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around the fact that the public is
so interested in this subject matter it drives
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them crazy. The public who they
serve is deeply interested in the topic and
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can't get enough of it. That
is not the case for journalists, and
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I don't really get it. I
mean, it's a great subject, potentially
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the biggest story in the history of
the world, even if it weren't true,
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even if it was all a mass
hallucination, that's one hell of a
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new story because it's been going on
for so long. And besides, I
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hate to admit it, but it's
a heck of a lot of fun to
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cover this stuff and chase it around
the world. But to my colleagues,
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the folks here in this room,
you UFO buffs, you're UFO believers.
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Those are code words that journalists used
to put UFO folks sort of in their
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place. It's a tool that they
use. And those who don't believe,
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their skeptics, their scientists, your
buffs and believers. Well, I don't
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know about you, but I never
thought of myself as a buff or believer.
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I don't think of myself as a
UFO reporter. I'm a reporter who
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happens to be interested in UFOs.
There's a difference, and I think it's
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a legitimate news story. And as
I said, it's driven my colleagues in
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media just right up the wall twenty
five years ago. You know, I
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don't think they realized how far the
interest spread, and when they saw me
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getting so much attention in Las Vegas
and the rating spike that come along with
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these UFO stories, It really pissed
them off when that story about Bob Lazer
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broke. Oh my gosh. In
general, people my colleagues in the media
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think that's the year I went nuts. I had broken other stories and I'd
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been careful about them, and I'd
tried to be careful in the same way
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with this story, but they didn't
see it that way. I can't tell
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you how many times I have been
pillory by radio morning djays. As soon
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as they run out of bilch,
barf and fart jokes in the morning,
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they would take on UFOs. My
friends at Nevada's largest newspaper, the Review
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Journal of How a lot of fun. At my expense, I've been featured
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in several editorial cartoons. I remember
the first one I saw had me with
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a butterfly net. My ass looked
as big as a wheelbarrow, and I
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was chasing a flying saucer. The
second one they had it was called the
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marshmallow Head Chronicles was the title,
and it showed a couple of extraterrestrial hit
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men had come to Earth and they
had their ray guns. They were pointed
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at a couple of gasoline pumps at
a gas station, and the line was
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of course they are earth men,
but which one. I think they were
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making fun of my stout frame or
something. There was a series I did
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some years ago about alien abductions,
some of the weird medical procedures that happened
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that are reported by abductees, and
the newspaper had a headline they called it
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kidnapped by Aliens, very funny,
and because I had described some of the
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procedures, they dubbed me a grand
molar. In the Church of Cosmic Proptology.
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There was a media critic who wrote
a weekly column, and he wrote
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one time he said, people are
rushing at home at night to see UFO
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reports, not because they are interested
in flying saucers, but because they want
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to be there too see it when
I do it now, it's funny stuff,
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and I figure, you know,
it kind of comes with the territory.
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I'm a public figure AI. I'm
not thin skinned. I'm okay with
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it because I know the public is
okay with it. I don't write new
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stories for other AI reporters. I
don't care what they think. I write
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it for our listeners and the public. The part that bothers me is that
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so few of my AI colleagues did
any work at all on the subject before
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they decided to write it all often
me with it before they joked and tittered
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or made wise cracks about Elvis and
Bigfoot and tin Foyle hats. They certainly
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never spent hundreds of hours sitting out
there in the dark outside of Area fifty
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one, sitting in the dust in
the desert, waiting for something to happen,
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trying to dodge security patrols, trying
to keep from getting arrested or buzzed
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by helicopters. They haven't read the
books, all the documents, or interviewed
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the witnesses, none of that stuff
that you would do on any other story.
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And it drives me crazy. And
I'm sure many of you feel the
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same way. They see all of
us in this room as nuts. And
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while I think that that is totally
unfair and generally inaccurate, we all know
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that sometimes it is. It the
fact is, and you know it's true.
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The subject does tend to attract a
lot of people whose elevator doesn't go
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all the way to the top,
and they make it a lot harder on
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all the rest of us. For
the past two weeks, I've been getting
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these cell phone messages and e mails
from this lady who has been imploring me
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to get a protective order to fly
her to Nevada because former CIA Director Admiral
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James Woolsey is tormenting her with mind
control beam weapons that have forced her to
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have all kinds of sexual activity with
Asian men that she doesn't know. Now,
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I'm not making this up. She
figures, if I have a lot
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of UFO connections at the government,
maybe I can help her out and get
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the admiral to back off. When
I was first in this field, I
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had this lady who kept calling me
up after she saw the Bob Lazer stories.
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I have got to talk to you. I've got some really important information,
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all right. Fine, she shows
up at the station. She's wearing
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this skimpy halter top and holding a
kid who I later learned was her alien
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love child, And within five minutes
of me meeting her, she's telling me
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the most intimate details about her sex
life because it was while performing a certain
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act out on her front porch that
she looked up and saw her first UFO.
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Eventually, I'm not making up one
bit of this. Eventually they beamed
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her up on board the ship.
They had her in sort of a beauty
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queen lineup, and they told her
to put on a bathing suit. She
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said they told her to get breast
in plants. And this is the one
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part of the story I could believe
because there was ample physical evidence staring me
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in the face. I have been
pestered by this millionaire who is a transsexual
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abductee at that combination up by a
guy who says he's the twin brother of
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Jesus Christ who's coming back. He
says the aliens are bringing him back,
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and boy are they mad. I
had a guy who flew from Australia.
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He told me he used the last
money he had to fly from Australia to
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me because he wanted me to use
my juice at Area fifty one to get
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the aliens to stop abducting him.
It's a sad story, but that was
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true. I have received all kinds
of letters from alleged aliens who say they're
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watching me. I've got alleged day
in sending me songs and poems that they've
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written. I've got people who've made
death threats and issued warnings to me from
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people who pretend to be government agents. I've had people say that I'm a
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government agent myself. It kind of
comes with the territory. And as some
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of you may know, if you
know about UFOs or have an interest in
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UFOs, suddenly that makes you an
expert in every other weird thing that might
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come up. Beelzebub, you got
a problem with demons, I get calls
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about it. You had an out
of body experience, can't get back in.
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Well, so major media folks,
when it comes to the UFO story
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in Area fifty one in particular,
have taken a pass, and so be
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it. It's their loss. The
story of Area fifty one got out anyway.
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And remember, in the beginning a
man, everybody made fun of it
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and made fun of me. But
eventually, as we'll talk about the whole
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world, beat a path to Area
fifty one door. I mean, as
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John mentioned in the introduction, nobody
had heard of Area fifty one twenty five
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years ago, but they certainly know
about it now. It is an uxeymoran
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of the highest order, the world's
best known secret base, can you be
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both? I guess so, A
place famous for being so secretive that for
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decades the government pretended it wasn't there, even though we can see satellite photos
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that show it's there. You can
look over the hill and see it's there.
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No, it's not. You're imagining
it. A place where constitutional protections
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do not apply, where environmental laws
are exempted, where you can be shot
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just for editoring Area fifty one,
the box, the Ranch, the Watertown
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Strip, Dreamland. It began in
nineteen fifty five, a location where the
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U TOO was first tested. They
sent out a news release. I've got
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it with me, a copy of
the news release that went to media that
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said, we're building a little facility. It's temporary, be gone before you
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know it. And here it is. You know, more than half a
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century later, it's still out there
in a remote part of Nevada, one
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hundred miles north of Las Vegas.
There were a few people outside of our
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estate, other than those who worked
there or lived in the perimeter, had
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ever heard of it. And then
that changed in nineteen eighty seven when a
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guy named John Lear walked in the
TV station. At that time, I
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produced a little public affairs show called
on the Record, and it's one of
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those shows that airs at six o'clock
in the morning on a weekend. You
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interview a county commissioner or a city
councilman, and nobody watches it. And
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Leah came into the TV station to
talk to my boss, a guy named
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ned Day, my friend and mentor
who was sort of the premier muckraker of
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his era, investigative reporter, mob
fighter, mob buster. And Lea had
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credibility with ned Day for one simple
reason, John, whatever you think of
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him now, And a friend of
mine, by the way, Jeremy Corbell,
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who's here, is making a film
about John. He has some crazy
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ideas, wild stuff. Regardless of
that, at the time, John had
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a lot of credibility with us for
a simple reason that he had helped us
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break a really important story, the
existence of the F one seventeen fighter.
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John and fellow aviation watcher Jim goodall
would go out there with binoculars and cameras
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in the desert and they had acquired
enough information about the self fighter that they
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gave the story to ned He broke
it. It went national. It went
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national so big that the FBI hauled
nedd in and quized him about where he
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got the information. Anyway, so
at the time John had credibility with us.
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His father had invented the lead jet. John had run for the state
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Senate. He wasn't quite as far
out on the fringe as he is now.
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So he brought up in this pile
of UFO documents and dropped him on
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Ned's desk, and he said,
you got to take a look at this,
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Ned, this is the next big
story. And Ned said, I
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don't want anything to do with that. I don't believe it. It can
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be true. If it were true, I'd already know about it, and
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so he wouldn't do the story.
I was eavesdropping at the time. I
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said, let me take a look
at that stuff, and he dropped the
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pile of documents on my desk.
I read it. I thought, well,
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that might be an interesting subject.
Something changed a pace for the show
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on the record, so I had
John on, and all of a sudden,
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my phone started ringing with people who
wanted, oh, hey, what
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was the deal on that UFO guy. You're going to have more on that.
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And I had him on again,
and I had him on a third
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time, and each time the response
got bigger. And I'm wondering, what
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the heck is going on here.
I didn't understand the way in which this
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touched the pulse of the public.
But it did, and so I started
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reading up on it. And then
that third show, John had hinted to
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me that he knew somebody who had
just been hired at Area fifty one,
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or as it turns out, a
place called S four. So May nineteen
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eighty nine we have this shadowy silhouette
interview with a guy named Dennis, not
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his real name, And it was
just sort of circumstance that had happened.
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I was anchoring the five o'clock news
at the time, and our regular scheduled
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guest bailed on us. I called
Leir and said, hey, we need
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a fill in. Do you think
your surcer guy would do an interview?
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And sure enough he did, and
you saw some of the footage there,
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a little bit of the preparation for
that interview outside and after this thing ran,
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everything was different for me, for
Bob Laza and for Area fifty one.
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Let's roll a piece of this tape
number two. I don't know.
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Sometimes I really do regret it.
I almost feel like apologizing to him,
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saying that, you know, I'm
sorry I let things out. Can I
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have my job back? Twenty five
years after he was forever transformed into Bob,
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the UFO guy. Bob Laza says
he regrets ever talking about flying saucers,
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or a secret base in the Nevada
Desert, or any of the things
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that made his name known all over
the world. There isn't a day I
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don't get emails I try and get
this across to him. I don't even
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want to talk about it anymore.
Well, I don't believe a story.
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Great pass it around. I really
don't want you to, because it makes
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life difficult for me. A quarter
century ago, not many people outside in
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Nevada had ever heard of Area fifty
one, the mysterious Bass one hundred miles
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north of Las Vegas, place the
government said didn't exist. It was the
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location of choice for all manner of
black projects, spy planes that were kept
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secret from the public. And that's
my driveway, that's Bob, that's Gene
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Huff and Bob's wife, Tracy and
Chris, and we're just waiting there for
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five o'clock to roll around. Former
CIA pilot John Lee remembers the day that
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Area fifty one became a household name. This is home video he shot as
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a KLAS news truck prepared to broadcast
a live interview from Lear's home. Laza
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was understandably nervous. Yeah, he
was nervous because he was putting it all
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out on the line there and here
he was going to reveal all his secrets
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that he'd signed that he was going
to never tell anybody. It's not only
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a crime against the American people.
In the interview, Lasar's face was hidden
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and he used a pseudonym, Dennis, which was the first name of his
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boss. Out in the desert.
Well, there's several, actually nine flying
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saucs. Laza claimed he worked intermittently
at a location called s for south of
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Grum Lake, the main facility of
Area fifty one. He said the hangars
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had been built into the side of
a mountain disguised as desert, and inside
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were a set of nine flying saucers. Months later, he revealed his identity
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to the world and said the technology
he'd worked on was from somewhere else,
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that it was being taken apart to
figure out how it worked, So that's
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the basic story. He said that
he was hired by a company called EGNNG,
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which is in fact the company that
has always run Area fifty one since
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the beginning. That it was done
on behalf of the U. S.
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Navy that he worked at a place
called s for south of Grum Lake,
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a place called Papas Dry Lake bed. He said, these ships basically have
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an antimatter reactor. The fuel is
something called element one hundred and fifteen,
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which at the time that Bob said
it didn't exist. It does now in
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a form that I'll talk about a
little bit later. He said that it
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could create basically, it was able
to create its own gravitational feel, which
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means it bends space and time,
and it actually could travel in no time
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at all from far away world just
by pointing this gravity amplifier at this location.
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And I know it's preposterous, it's
outrageous, it's ridiculous. Who in
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the world could believe such a tripe
coming from a guy who has a really
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sketchy background like Bob. Turns out
quite a few people believed it because the
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story exploded like a hydrogen bomb.
It launched thousands of product lines, It
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made untold numbers of media appearances.
The mean was on the loose. I'll
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show you in this video roll this
one number three, and it could have
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grooved area fifty one. You could
have just handed me a piece of the
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UFO from Area fifty one. There's
never been any spacecraft. There's no Area
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fifty one. There's no recovered spaceship. Excuse me, mister President. That's
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not entirely accurate. It would probably
take an Indiana Joe sized warehouse to stash
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all the pop culture references to Area
fifty one. The OsO secret facility,
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the place that did not officially exist
for decades is the rock star of military
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bases. Literally, there's a rock
band named Area fifty one, and another
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named Element one fifteen, which is
supposedly the fuel for flying saucers. There's
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an Area fifty one video game,
an Area fifty one bar. What better
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way to unwind after a long day
than a glass of groomed lake red wine
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from the alien. Maybe spend a
few minutes staring at the paintings you picked
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up at the Area fifty one art
show, while perhaps listening to the Bob
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Lazar music video. The story that
Bob Lazer told twenty five years ago has
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gone around the world many times over. When you get yourself in position,
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and in the quarter century since then, the world has beaten a path to
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Area fifty one's door. Every major
news organization in the world has written stories.
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The Bass has inspired documentaries and TV's. Dozens of books have been written,
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fiction and non fiction, hundreds of
news articles, many of them critical
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of Laza and skeptical about his background. His tale launched a thousand product lines
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every trinket you can imagine, along
with assorted businesses, a Triple A baseball
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team, and the world's only extraterrestrial
highway running right past the entrance to Grund
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Lake. President Obama recently made a
point of publicly acknowledging Area fifty one,
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and former President Bill Clinton told Jimmy
Kimmel he'd looked into those stories about space
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aliens, So first I had people
go look at the records on Area fifty
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one to make sure there was no
alien down there. Even the Kardashians have
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made a trek out into the desert. That's a security guard. Look how
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that story moved throughout the Internet so
quickly, and not just the Internet,
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but news in itself, Like it
was in the first forty eight hours after
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the broadcast, it was in Japan. Back in Las Vegas for a visit,
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Laza recalls why he came forward in
the first place. He had traveled
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to the ESFA base only a handful
of times, but began to get scared.
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I began to get worried in that
why they've given me all this classified
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information. They're not calling me any
more. They won't take my phone calls
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in the meantime, apparently they're deciding
what to do with me. Oh,
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look at it now. For a
variety of personal reasons, Laza couldn't keep
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the story to himself. He shared
his tale with John Lear and Gene Huff.
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They and a few others made treks
out to the outskirts of S four
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because Lasa said he'd learned when the
test flights of the saucer would take place.
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Three weeks in a row, a
glowing object appeared over the mountain.
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Oh no, Brian, it's kidding. Look at it now. Just a
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few minutes ago we saw one of
the government extraterrestrial UFOs. The time when
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Bob said there would be a test, there was a strange light jumping around
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in the sky above the location where
he said it would be at the time,
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And he said it would be you
know here. The craft took off
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when I said it was taking off
from past the mountain range, which was
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Papu's Lake s for south of Area
fifty one in a restricted area, so
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it's not like anyone was out there
with a model plane or anything and flew
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around in incredible maneuvers and impressed everybody
to the point where we got scared and
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got behind a car fearing the thing
was going to explode. But really,
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how do you explain it? Yeah, right now, so many products.
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I don't have time to list them
all. I mean, they have regular
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tours there now. For a while
it was just catch as catch cam,
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but they have regular tours that go
out a couple of times a week.
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I did a story on the air
a couple of weeks ago about one driver
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wasn't paying attention, blew right past
the signs, and was in a big
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bit of trouble there in a big
hurry. They have an Area fifty one
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Jan Brothel, a legal brothel which
works with the Bob Laser story if you
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think about it. They have an
Area fifty one blow Up Love Doll.
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I don't know what sig Dog needs
that one. I was thinking to myself,
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Man, I wish I had copyrighted
this thing long back in nineteen eighty
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nine. I'd be calling in doing
this by skype from my island of Cowi
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or something. You know. I
was thrilled when I saw President Clinton speak
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about UFOs. It was kind of
cool that President Obama said that. You'll
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notice he made the comment about Area
fifty one, first time a sitting president
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acknowledged the BASS while he was honoring
Shirley MacLean. But when I saw that
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the Kardashians had visited Area fifty one, I thought, oh man, it's
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jumped the sharp. That's it for
the base. You saw at the end
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of that video, the clip of
the original footage of this saucer test flight
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that Laza and John Lear and Gene
Huff and others had witnessed, not once,
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not twice, they went out three
times in a row. Laza knew
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when the test flights were going to
take place. You know, where the
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test flights were going to take place. Officially, to this day, there
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is no base at Packpoo's Lake.
There's nothing at Packpoo's Lake. In fact,
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there is no s for any more. We'll talk about that a little
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bit later. There's nothing there but
a dry lake bed. So how did
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he know? You know, it's
one of the points that we'll come back
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to let's roll number for here.
I'll show you a freeze frame of this
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video. Somebody had done some enhancement
of this. There's a whole video,
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but I couldn't get to play earlier. But that's sort of a close up
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of that craft that they saw,
and they saw it three weeks in a
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row. Over the years, dozens
of other people have taken similar images out
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there, some braro shaped things orbs
balls of light flying erratically. Some of
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these clearly are misidentifications of classified projects. I get that, and some of
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them are just wishful thinking. I
get that too, But it sure seems
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like something that looks like flying saucers
has been out there and for a long
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time. I don't think it's there
anymore, but it looks like a classic
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UFO. I don't know if you
saw the announcement last year, the CIA
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announced Area fifty one is real.
Thank you CIA for acknowledging that HOOPTI frigging
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the DOW. We knew it was
real. You can see it's real.
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People have been out there, they've
taken photos, they've been arrested. Even
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though it was removed from maps in
the nineteen seventies, we've known it's been
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out there a long time. At
the same time, the CIA acknowledged,
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hey, Area fifty one is real. We're coming clean with you. They
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said, By the way, the
reason people have been having these stories about
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flying saucers out there is because you're
misidentifying things that were flying U two's and
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SR seventy ones. I don't even
know where to start with that. It's
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similar to an earlier CIA release that
tried to explain away all UFOs. You
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remember all those UFOs you were seeing
in the fifties and sixties, those were
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hours. They sent out a tweet
to that effect a couple of weeks ago.
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That was us, they said,
very funny, except for the fact
406
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it's total bullshit. I mean,
U twos and SR seventy ones don't look
407
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like flying saucers, not from any
angle. They don't stop on a dime,
408
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.000
they don't land in corn fields or
in backyards. They don't fly straight
409
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:55.400
up or straight down. They don't
do any of that stuff. More importantly,
410
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the stories about saurcers in the Nevada
Desert didn't come from there people outside
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the base seeing things in the sky. They came from people inside the base
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who leaked the information out and not
just Bob Laza, which brings us back
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to him. I'm not going to
try to convince you that Bob's story is
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true. I can't. I wouldn't
even try. It's up to you.
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00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.039
I think most people have made up
their mind one way or another. There's
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not many of us that are still
on the fence. I do want to
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share with you two thoughts on this
though. One is my belief that it's
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kind of a moot point anyway,
because the Area fifty one story is kind
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of taken on a life of its
own, whether we like it or not,
420
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.640
Bob Laza or not, it's kind
of permanently etched into the public consciousness,
421
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.519
for good or bad. It's kind
of like it's independent of Laza.
422
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.400
It's kind of like a being that
is suddenly self aware. There was that
423
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.079
tour group I mentioned in late May, that guy who blew through the sign.
424
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.799
We have video of the whole thing. That's why it became a new
425
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.640
story. I was going through it
logging the tape and the guy is telling
426
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:09.359
stuff about Area fifty one. I'm
shaking my head. He said, oh,
427
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.599
yeah, this is generally where the
mother ships come down. They're there
428
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.519
all the time. And then the
men in black patrol this area and you
429
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.920
got to watch out for them.
And then it's sixty floors underground and all
430
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.079
this stuff that's just completely made up. I don't even want to try to
431
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.920
correct it. I don't even know
where to start. This is a beast
432
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.279
that is out of control in some
ways. The second it's a monster.
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The second point I want to make
is that how we pursued this story as
434
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journalists. You know, people think, oh, well, you must have
435
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:51.559
just done this for ratings. That's
not how stuff works. That's not how
436
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.279
we work. And this is not
a lack of a decision, something that
437
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.400
we made lightly as a ratings ploy. It did get ratings, and that
438
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.400
was good, but we thought about
it and argued about it. We knew
439
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.079
what was at risk, not only
my reputation, but the reputation of our
440
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:14.840
entire news department, our news entity. So we tread lightly, We were
441
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:20.760
careful, We covered our bases.
I spent eight months putting together those stories
442
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.000
about Bob and try to investigate every
angle, find every supporting bit of material
443
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:30.159
that I could, and there was
quite a bit of it. I know.
444
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.239
It looks preposterous on its face,
and if you were to tell somebody
445
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.519
this story without any of the back
up material, they'd laugh at you.
446
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:43.440
But I'm not laughing. My friend
and colleague, Stan Friedman is not here
447
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.079
tonight, and I regret that because
he and I have had some spirited conversations
448
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:52.440
about this over the years. Stan
has I give him credit for doing the
449
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.159
leg work on the Bob Lasar story, but unfortunately, because he's so far
450
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.320
out in front of it, he
takes a lot of crap from people who
451
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.920
are religiously believe in this thing and
can't understand why he's cooperating with the evil
452
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:12.000
secret government to keep it a secret. But Stan took it on. He
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00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.320
followed up Bob's credential claimed credentials.
He found out that, contrary to what
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00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.840
Bob had said, he did not
have any records at MIIT or Caltech,
455
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.079
and I applaud Stan for that.
I give him cudos for doing the work.
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00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.000
Like Edward Snowden, though the only
college that Bob had was junior college
457
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:37.159
and he didn't finish. Both of
those guys didn't finish. So is that
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case closed for Lazar that he lied
about as college credentials he's a liar,
459
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.039
so he can't believe anything that he
said. Well, I would make the
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case that I give Stan credit for
doing some of the leg work. But
461
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.719
the fact is, in the very
first story that we aired about Bob Laza,
462
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:58.039
I said he made these claims and
we can't prove it. There's no
463
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.440
one at those schools who remembers him. And I'll just tell you the first
464
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.960
time I ever spoke to move on, it was twenty four years ago when
465
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.119
I was invited to speak about this. First time, I said, I
466
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.719
don't believe Bob Laza did go to
those schools. And it's really simple.
467
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.880
He doesn't you know how it was
when you were in college, you had
468
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.400
to take certain electives that have nothing
to do with your major interest. Can
469
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.920
you imagine Bob Lazar sitting through English
lid because I can't. I mean,
470
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I could see him taking science classes, electronics and engineering, but to take
471
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.519
the kind of courses you would need
to get a degree, there's no way.
472
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.119
I don't think he went to school
yet I'm not ready to sort of
473
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.079
toss that, toss him outsort of
the baby with the bath water. I
474
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:50.800
never believed necessarily that he went to
school for me. The key question was
475
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.440
always did he work at Los Alamo's
National Lab, because that was part of
476
00:36:54.480 --> 00:37:00.320
his claim I worked at Los Alamo's
National Lab as a physicist. I said,
477
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.320
well, that should be easy enough
to check out. I called the
478
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.079
lab. They said, we never
heard of him, so, Bob,
479
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.599
you're not helping me here. We
dug up a front page newspaper of the
480
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.079
Los Alamo's Monitor that showed him on
a front page story pictures of him with
481
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:22.000
a jet car he'd created, and
it listed him as a Los Alamo's physicist.
482
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.880
That wasn't good enough. The lab
said, we still don't have any
483
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.760
records. Then I found a phone
book with his name in it, and
484
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.880
they said, we still don't have
any records on him. I pursued this
485
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.039
for three years. I got a
stack of letters this big between me and
486
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:43.480
Los Alamo's Lab, and they still
were denying it. I finally got on
487
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.800
to a company called Kerk Maya,
which is a head hunter company. They
488
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.559
recruit technical and scientific people and get
them jobs at places like Los Alamo's Lab.
489
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.559
They said, sure, we've got
records on Bob Laza. Yeah,
490
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.880
we got them a job at Los
Alamo's You bet then I said, can
491
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.800
I get the records? Yeah,
no problem. Thus started a one year
492
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:13.159
back and forth with that company.
They had promised the records, Yeah,
493
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.159
we're going to send them to you, and they never did, and then
494
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:21.239
they denied ever having them. The
same thing with the lab. Finally,
495
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.039
after three years, they coughed up
an ID number for Bob. Yeah he
496
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.880
was here, but he was in
non classified work. I interviewed five people
497
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.360
that worked with him at Los Alamo's
who said he was in classified stuff.
498
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.880
And more importantly, I went there. He took me in with my cameraman
499
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.039
on a week end and it wasn't
like he had never been there before.
500
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.039
It was like a rabbit going through
his own burrow. He knew all these
501
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:51.320
buildings, the irons, and out
of these buildings. We waved at the
502
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.480
security guy at the front gate,
We waved at people inside the buildings.
503
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.760
He took me in to see this
gigantic particle accelerator, one of the biggest
504
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:04.760
inn world. We took video of
it. I used him in those reports.
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00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.519
I think he worked there, and
it seems to me that if he
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00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.039
worked at Los Alamo's National Lab on
classified projects, which is what his coworker
507
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.159
said he did. It is conceivable
he could be hired to work out in
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00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:20.480
the desert in Nevada, whether he's
got a college degree or not. So
509
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.000
I applaud those who do the work
and say he never had a college degree.
510
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.719
But for me, that doesn't end
the story. And if Bob lied
511
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.960
about his college credentials, would he
be the first person to exaggerate his education
512
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:36.639
to get a really cool job,
because I don't think so. There were
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00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.639
other witnesses who came forward, and
I'll talk a little bit about them.
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00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.239
The part that's really hard to convey
about that time is just how weird it
515
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.039
was. And it's one of those
kind of things where if you weren't there,
516
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.760
it's really hard to get it.
But man, I'm telling you,
517
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.760
it was strange. After we broke
that story, Bob had death threats and
518
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.760
he would call me up at night
and I'd go over to his house and
519
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.400
he he was pacing around. There'd
been a break in his pacing around with
520
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.920
a noozy. They would break into
his house and just move things around.
521
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:13.920
He'd come home and the doors are
open. There'd be things that he had
522
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.559
on his blackboard that were erased.
He had a particle accelerator with a piece
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00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.039
of element one hundred and fifteen pointed
at it. They would move that stuff
524
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:27.559
around. He went to the gym
with a friend of his. He was
525
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.880
carrying a gun because he was paranoid. He and his friend go in.
526
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:36.880
They leave a gun in the glove
box of the car. They come out,
527
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.760
the doors. Both doors of the
car are open, the glove box
528
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.639
is open, the guns laying on
the front seat. It said people were
529
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.000
messing with them, and they were
messing with me. And I know they
530
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.039
followed me around for a while because
two of the guys who did it told
531
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:58.079
me about it years later after they
had quit working for this security company.
532
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.840
Our phones were tapped, which you
know, that really ticks me off.
533
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.599
I guess we're all used to it
now, because the n essay has all
534
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.760
of us tapped, certainly everybody in
this room. That's too bad. We
535
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.599
got used to it, But in
those days I weren't used to it.
536
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.360
I had six different people after we
broke the story with Bob. My phone
537
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.360
is ringing off the hook. People
questions about u F foes. But occasionally
538
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.599
a couple of people who had information
and wanted to tell me their part of
539
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.000
the story. Six people who offered
on the phone to give me interviews even
540
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.679
if I blacked out their face were
visited one right after another. And there
541
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:40.599
was a tax guy who had done
tax forms for a lot of the guys
542
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.360
who worked at Nellis Air Force Base. I ranking officers who had told him
543
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.760
on an out of town trip about
some recovered wreckage from a flying saucer that
544
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.159
was out at your A fifty one
just swore him to secrecy. So he
545
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:59.440
told me about it. His name
was Roy Byram, and after he made
546
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.159
it, agreed to do an interview
with me. The very next day,
547
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:06.960
he gets visited by two guys who
said there from the Secret Service, and
548
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.360
they had heard that he'd been making
death threats against the president and did he
549
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.119
know he could go to prison for
that? He thought that was related to
550
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.920
our phone call. I had a
lady who a cop introduced me to her.
551
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.320
She worked in our Clerk County court
system. She's still there, I
552
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:29.000
think, And she had been previously
been a secretary for a defense contractor at
553
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.800
the test site called homes a NAVA, major defense contractor, and she said
554
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.360
it on a meeting she said with
defense officials. Air Force officials and this
555
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:43.079
contractor. She was the second stenographer, and in this meeting, she said
556
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.440
that they talked about a recovered disc
of an alien craft, and after they
557
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.599
finished, they not only took the
notes away from her, they took the
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00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.320
ribbon out of the typewriter it was
an old fashioned typewriter in those days,
559
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.239
and swore her to secrecy. The
cop hooked me up with her. I
560
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.039
talked to her on the phone.
She agreed to do an interview if I
561
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.519
blocked out her face. Very next
day, she gets a visit by these
562
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.559
two guys who flashed a badge at
her. They said, look, you're
563
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:16.079
still subject to your security clearance.
And I don't know how to say this.
564
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.000
They said, well, we know
you and your daughter do a lot
565
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.840
of traveling back and forth Las Vegas
to La Let's just put it this way.
566
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.760
There's a lot of desert out there
and bad things can happen. It
567
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.840
was serious. I'm not making this
up. She was scared to death.
568
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.920
Fifteen, almost twenty years later,
I figured I'll reach out to her again,
569
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.880
see if she would be willing to
talk about it. Now she's still
570
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.480
scared. Wouldn't do it. I
had an electrical engineer who used to work
571
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.760
at my TV station who moved to
Seattle, who had worked at Area fifty
572
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.159
one and had seen a saucer shaped
craft under a torp in a building out
573
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.679
there, and he agreed to tell
me about it. And the next day
574
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.760
after that phone call where he agreed
to do a silhouette interview, there's two
575
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.719
guys sitting in a car outside of
his house and their crew cuts talking into
576
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.639
a radio. They follow him to
work. When he gets out of work,
577
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:22.119
they followed him home. Somebody was
listening. He was intimidated, and
578
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:28.840
I don't blame him, and that
happened a lot listening the phones following us
579
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.480
around break ins. It was a
really weird time. If you weren't there,
580
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:37.400
it's really hard to convey it.
As I mentioned, a lot of
581
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.440
other witnesses came forward. I'm not
going to go through all of them,
582
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.119
but there are a couple of key
ones that I want to touch on.
583
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.599
One was a spotter at the Nevada
test site. His name was Glen Pace
584
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.719
and in the days of the above
ground testing program, he was one of
585
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:58.000
the only guys on the test site
that was allowed to have binoculars, and
586
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.360
he worked for a physicist named Otto
cro Else, he said, and they
587
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.760
would sit in a place called Area
fifteen, which is above the area,
588
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.400
looking down on Packpoh's Lake, and
he said they used to see these saucers
589
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:14.840
buzzing around Packpoo's Lake, flying around
down there in the nineteen sixties, maybe
590
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:19.599
into the seventies, I can't remember
the exact date told me that story.
591
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.880
There was another guy who I first
told mufhn about it the second time I
592
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:28.320
was here to talk about Area fifty
one. I might have been twenty years
593
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:32.320
ago. A guy I had stalked. Basically, I had figured out that
594
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.840
he was in a position to know
this stuff based on his employment record,
595
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.679
and I would go to these public
events where he would show up and sort
596
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.960
of ingratiate myself. He was from
a prominent Nevada family, and eventually he
597
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.280
invited me to his home and he
said, you want to see my scrap
598
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:55.000
books? Yeah, great, good. He's showing me these books this atomic
599
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:00.559
test and this guy in that.
And then he stops and he closes the
600
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.360
book and he goes, this is
not what you want to talk about,
601
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.239
is it. I said, no, no, it is not. And
602
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.440
his wife walked in, Oh,
don't tell him that stuff. But he
603
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.519
did, and over the course of
the next two years he told me a
604
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.599
lot. And as I recorded some
years ago to this group, he told
605
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.760
me that they had an alien out
there that they captured, that they had
606
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.199
several craft. They had been at
a place called Indian Springs, which is
607
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.039
now Creature for Space, and it
was moved later to Area fifty one when
608
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:37.000
that base was created. He said
that they had it alive. He had
609
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:43.239
kitted me. I couldn't take notes, I couldn't write anything down. I'd
610
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.840
have to leave these meetings and then
write furiously after the meetings everything I could
611
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.599
remember. But he had told me
at the time that this being looked just
612
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.800
like a politician of the day,
And it turns out he was talking about
613
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.960
Ross Peroe, a little tiny juggeard
alien. Anyway, I made a deal
614
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.400
because this guy was a prominent family. I knew other people in his family
615
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.239
he had told them the same story, and he made a deal where he
616
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.440
was going to make a videotape and
give it to me after his passing.
617
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.280
I was still alive. But his
complicated matters because he was told after about
618
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:21.239
two years of us talking, he
said, I got to stop. I
619
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.519
was told to stop. Who told
you? Well, my former employer told
620
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.280
me to stop. And then the
last time I saw him, he had
621
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.360
a little twist to the story.
It was no longer aliens. He was
622
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.079
leading me in another direction. I'll
imagine my surprise when a book comes out
623
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:44.719
called Area fifty one by a lady
named Annie Jacobson. Any of you read
624
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.960
that, it's a great history about
Area fifty one, that it has a
625
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.639
chapter at the end that just it's
a really good book and good history about
626
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.199
you too, State Route seventy one, all that stuff. And then it
627
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.800
has an interview with this old guy
who tells a wacky and why story about
628
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.239
how all those UFO stories it was
the Roswell Saucer was really something that the
629
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.360
Russian sent over created with Nazi technology, and the aliens inside this thing these
630
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:16.159
things were actually Jewish prisoners of war
concentration camp survivors. And that was the
631
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:21.880
story this guy told. Annie put
it in her book, and it largely
632
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.000
it made the rest of the book
irrelevant, and it made poked a lot
633
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.559
of fun at Area fifty one,
and the whole story made it all less
634
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:34.000
serious. It's the same guy and
I'm not going to identify who he is
635
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.960
because I made a promise that I
wouldn't. But it's the same guy who
636
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.400
had changed this story, which is
troubling. Over the years, all kinds
637
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.360
of people have come out of the
woodwork to tell what they know about Area
638
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.159
fifty one, and a lot of
them just made it up. There was
639
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.599
a guy named Bill Cooper who wrote
a book called Behold a Pale Horse.
640
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.079
It should be called Behold a Pale
of Horse yet because he just made this
641
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.079
stuff up. There was another guy
named Dai Burish Dan Crane. He used
642
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.679
to be Now in the beginning,
he was kind of an interesting guy and
643
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.920
I thought he might be onto something. But in the last ten years or
644
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.360
so, I've realized that it's a
game. He's got a merry little band
645
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:21.440
of pranksters. It's like a Dungeons
and Dragons. They pretend that they're superheroes
646
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.480
to save the world, and it's
all made up. I've had people tell
647
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:29.760
these stories about all the milk cart
and kids. That's where they go.
648
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:36.000
They disappear and they're taking Area fifty
one. They make alien hybrids out of
649
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:42.159
them, and these huge bubbling vats, false flag operations we didn't go to
650
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.679
the moon because it was all staged
out there in area fifty one. Look,
651
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.159
that place is pretty interesting. You
don't have to make up anything about
652
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.400
it. Back to Bob again,
it doesn't matter whether you believe him or
653
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.480
not. But people who want to
write him off because he doesn't have college
654
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.079
credentials have to also come up with
that explanation for how he knew stuff.
655
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.920
How did he know about those tests? Some people said, well, maybe
656
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:14.880
somebody told him, maybe he was
a janitor out there. Really, I
657
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.760
mean, can we keep our eye
on the ball here. A guy just
658
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:22.920
told us they were flying saucers.
It turns out they were accurate. We've
659
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.920
got it on video. And you're
going to say, I'm not going to
660
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.239
believe the story because he doesn't have
a degree from MIT. I think we're
661
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:36.119
missing the important point there. He
also knew about something called the OFI,
662
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.199
the Office of Federal Investigation. He
said he thought he would have been investigated
663
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.599
by the FBI, and it turns
out it wasn't. He said, Oh,
664
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.159
it turns out it's something called OFI. I said, there's no such
665
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.559
thing. What are you talking about
OFI? Well, there really is an
666
00:50:54.559 --> 00:51:00.719
OFI, Office of Federal Investigation does
background checks for people to work at the
667
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:05.400
test site. I didn't know that, but it's true. He gave me
668
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.400
the name of a guy named Mike
Thigban who was an agent for the o
669
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.760
f I, And sure enough,
there really is a Mike Thigban, and
670
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.639
I tracked him down. He wouldn't
talk to me. How did Bob know?
671
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:22.039
How did he pass a polygraph test? Not fail, not sort of
672
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.199
pass it on all the major points
that he says in his story? How
673
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.800
did he do it? Pap Poose
Lake? There's nothing there. If you
674
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.559
look at satellite photos, though,
at least the old ones, you can
675
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.039
see there's a road that leads down
there. Let's roll the video the next
676
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:45.639
little piece of video. It's just
freeze frames. There's a guy named Jerry
677
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.400
Freeman. He's an archaeologist and he
had an interest in the forty nine ers
678
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.599
who had come across Nevada on their
way to California. So he had a
679
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:58.840
really great that's him. If you
want to just freeze that for a second,
680
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.760
if you can. Jerry in the
nineteen nineties had a hare brained idea
681
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.800
to walk across the test site,
which he did. He sneaked in from
682
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.760
the west side heading east, which
is pretty smart, because nobody would think
683
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.679
any one's crazy enough to walk across
that hell hole by themselves. He walked
684
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.840
at night and hid during the day, and walked all the way across it,
685
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.440
all the way to pat Poose Lake, where he found some inscriptions in
686
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:28.519
wrong places. He had some inscriptions
in rocks that the forty Niners had left,
687
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.840
and he took photos. He told
a story while he's out there hiding
688
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:37.119
in the desert at night, trying
to avoid being caught. He's sitting there
689
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.000
in the middle of nowhere, and
the door opened up, a door of
690
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.719
light in the middle of nowhere.
People came in and out, and then
691
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:49.480
it closed and it was gone.
What the heck is that? If you
692
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.960
only had one person to tell that
story, I suppose you'd have to take
693
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.519
it with a grain of salt.
But there's more than one. There's a
694
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:00.679
guy named Jim Goodall. I mentioned
him earlier as a colleague of John Lears.
695
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.280
He's part of a group called the
Interceptors. They used to go out
696
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.880
to Area five one an Area fifty
two, the Tonopa Test Range and take
697
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:15.760
pictures of advanced airplanes. He's not
a UFO guy. He's written a couple
698
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:21.920
of books about stealth technology. He
has great sources in the aerospace industry.
699
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.960
He met Bob Laza prior to Bob
going to work at S four. As
700
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.400
he related to me, Bob had
told him, I hate UFOs. I
701
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:37.679
feel sorry for John Lear. It's
goofy, it's crazy. I don't believe
702
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.400
it unless I can hold it in
my hand and see it. And of
703
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.119
course, after Bob went to work
out there, his story changed. After
704
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:50.480
Goodall hears this story from Laza,
he starts asking his contacts and he has
705
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.800
a lot of them about what might
be going on at Parpo's Lake. Let's
706
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:59.679
roll number six. Did you ever
get any information about a facility at Parpo's
707
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:04.320
like the one he described? I
have a friend of mine. He's a
708
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.559
retired senior Master sergeant. He was
early on in the F one seventeen program.
709
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:14.639
They had full their badge, strictly
area badge. He can go anywhere
710
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:19.400
in the Nevada test site up to
it, including area fifty one. So
711
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.639
they had a humvey and they drove
around. There was it Groom range,
712
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:29.800
Yeah, groom range. And they're
on Parpoo's Lake. There's an anybody around,
713
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:35.119
and all of a sudden they're surrounded
by guys in black uniforms with their
714
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.480
hands on their weapons, wanting to
know who they were. What are you
715
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:43.679
doing here? Anybody said, we
just we had some downtime. We're just
716
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.360
exploring the area. He said,
you turn around and you leave and don't
717
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.119
come back. They just kind of
popped up out of nowhere. He didn't
718
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:57.360
know where they came from. He
didn't see any vehicles. All of a
719
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.760
sudden they were there and he left. He said, there's three or four
720
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:07.199
guys with him. They left.
What do you make of that? That
721
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.960
there might be something at Papoo's or
was or well, according to Bob,
722
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.000
that's where the nine hanguts are and
it camouflages in the side of the mountain.
723
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.840
One other little tidbit of information that
I'll share with you about sources.
724
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.400
It comes from Jeremy Corbella, a
friend of mine I mentioned, who's shooting
725
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:31.000
some video tonight and who's been working
on that project with John Lear. He's
726
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:36.599
also the guy that did the video
on Stephen Bassett's citizen disclosure hearings in Washington,
727
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.239
and he also interviewed with Linda halshelp
a guy known as Anonymous, an
728
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.519
old guy who did an interview with
his face on camera, didn't use his
729
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.960
real name. He came out last
year talking about Area fifty one and Eisenhower's
730
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.800
plans to invade the place and take
it over. I have this guy in
731
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:59.400
my gray basket. But as part
of that work, Jeremy has been traveling
732
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:05.760
some really interesting places and has developed
some pretty interesting high level military contacts.
733
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:07.960
And he was at my house and
told me about a couple of them,
734
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:13.880
and I said, well, let's
just go ahead and record it. So
735
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:19.199
we'll play seven and then we'll about
wrap up. Everybody's focused on Area fifty
736
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.320
one. We know the great things
that were achieved at Area fifty one.
737
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:29.519
It's a shell game. It's a
sleight of hand. We're talking about S
738
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:34.239
four. It's been confirmed to you
directly from the base maybe twenty five years
739
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.639
ago. S four has been confirmed
to me directly twice, one from an
740
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:45.400
employee of EGNNG security was daunting,
and then somebody else who's confirmed to me
741
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.920
S four. That's exactly how it
looks. The story, though, is
742
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.039
that there was a facility like that
at Pappas. There is a facility like
743
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:59.119
that at pappas flying discs, not
this UFO term that's created to make it
744
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:05.440
ambiguous. Flying discs, saucers that
were piloted by non humans. They were
745
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:10.280
not ours. And this is confirmed
by both of my sources. This technology
746
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.079
is not ours. Bob Lazar's story
was confirmed to me by those two same
747
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:21.280
sources, one saying that when he
was working in secret capacity at White Sands
748
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.760
in nineteen eighty nine, that it
was common knowledge at the base about Bob's
749
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.159
story. And I said, well, what was the believability? The general
750
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.639
believability? And he said, everybody
knew that what was going on out there
751
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:39.159
were with these types of projects,
and they've all believed Bob's story. Now
752
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:44.480
were they following it as its unfolding
in nineteen eighty nine? That was the
753
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.760
impression that I got was that it
was big news. If you ever see
754
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.119
it, it is not ours.
And I said, not ours like America,
755
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:58.719
and he says, not ours like
humans. While Jeremy was there,
756
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:01.400
we were curious. But because I
had twenty five years ago when I started
757
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:06.480
this stuff, I called Nellis Air
Force Base and I said, do you
758
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.920
have a place called S four?
They said, just second, hold on,
759
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.599
yes, we do. I said, do you have more than one?
760
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:20.559
They said, yes, we do. I said, can you tell
761
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:24.719
me what goes on there? They
said, classified work? What kind?
762
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:31.159
We can't tell you. This is
their public information office. Yes, we
763
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:37.639
have an S four. Yes it's
real. They confirmed it. How Lazar
764
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:43.000
knew about it, I don't know. So when Jeremy was most recently in
765
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.519
Las Vegas, we called him again. I just was curious what they would
766
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:52.119
say. Let me get back to
you on that. And they called back
767
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.440
and left the message and said,
and they was really careful how they passed
768
00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.639
this language, and said, we
called the range people. They can't find
769
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.360
it on any maps, which of
course it was never on a map to
770
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.159
begin with, which is I just
thought it was really interesting the language that
771
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.320
they used to describe it. One
last person I'll tell you about, and
772
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.320
then we'll end this with Bob and
his guy's name is Ben Rich. And
773
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.400
if you're no, I think about
the aerospace industry. You know Lockheed skunk
774
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.960
Works. They developed the U two, the State Route seventy one, the
775
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:31.800
greatest eplanes ever built, the A
twelve, the F of one seventeen.
776
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.719
Ben Rich, before he died,
he expressed a close friend and interest in
777
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:44.559
UFOs, and he said UFOs are
real, both kinds UFOs from out there
778
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:49.800
and unfunded opportunities. And before he
died, on his deathbed, he told
779
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:53.000
Jim Goodall and a couple of other
people in I think he even had it
780
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:58.480
in La in a public meeting.
He said, we already have the means
781
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:02.320
to travel among the stars, but
these technologies are locked up in black projects,
782
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:06.679
and it would take an act of
God to ever get them out to
783
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.320
benefit humanity anything you can imagine.
We already know how to do it.
784
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.280
We have the technology to take et
home. No, it won't take someone's
785
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:22.199
lifetime to do it. There was
an error in the equations. We know
786
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.400
what it is. We have the
capability to travel to the stars, and
787
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:30.159
we won't get there using chemical propulsion. Ben Rich was screaming in loud and
788
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:36.199
big bloody letters and handwriting on the
wall that we have some kind of technology
789
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.519
that is way beyond anything you can
imagine. Ben Rich is like the father
790
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.920
of Area fifty one. Those are
his babies out there. And for him
791
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.719
to say that before he died,
I give a lot of credence to it.
792
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.760
So many crazy stories about that base, so many crazy stories about Bob
793
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:59.880
Lazar. Bob is running a meth
lab. Bob's running a string of hookers
794
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:04.880
in South America. He's dead.
I get that about once a month.
795
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.199
It's no wonder he's tried to leave
this all behind. He only did this
796
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:14.360
interview with me because I've been bending
his arm for a year. I tried
797
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.039
to get him to come here.
He said maybe, and then I couldn't
798
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:21.679
get him to answer the phone after
that. But I wanted to end with
799
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.320
Bob talking about his life, what
it's like today, why he wants nothing
800
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.280
to do with this anymore. We
could roll number eight, but that drives
801
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:36.159
him crazy. You need to answer
this now. I need to answer.
802
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:37.639
How many times you get that in
a week? Still, after all this
803
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:44.760
time, Oh, I get answers. There isn't a day I don't get
804
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:49.519
emails. I try and get this
across to them. I don't even want
805
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:53.599
to talk about it anymore. Well, I don't believe a story. Great,
806
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:59.280
pass it around. I really don't
want you to, because it makes
807
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.960
life difficult for me. I'm trying
to do serious research. I've got contract
808
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.360
with governments and other companies for R
and D work, and aside from other
809
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:15.400
scientific interests. I want this divorced. Look if I went and did everything
810
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:20.800
I can approve my story and reached
a tipping point where people like Stanton Friedman
811
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:24.119
and along those lines said, you
know what, this was beginning to look
812
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:30.119
factual. Do you know how that
would annihilate me? That would destroy my
813
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.440
business. It would make it impossible
for me to operate, and you know,
814
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.320
I'd have a continuous flow of questions, annoying people, I'm sure,
815
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:44.239
offers to do things that I am
not the least bit interested in. There's
816
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.559
got to be parties somewhere in there, even though it would be counterproductive.
817
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.880
There's got to be party of the
wishes. God, damn it. I
818
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.320
know what happened. It's true.
No, look, I know what happened
819
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:04.719
is true, no doubt, period, There's no delusion. And there are
820
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.800
some things I can say that will
bolster the case, and I'm not going
821
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:13.960
to it's going to stay that way. I do regret at this point bringing
822
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.480
anything forward. Look at the time
in my early twenties, you know what,
823
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.719
this is a crime against the American
people. This is just bs and
824
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:28.639
everybody deserves to know what's going on, you know, And twenty five years
825
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.559
goes by, you get a little
older and your priorities change. And you
826
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.079
know what they told me is this
is a security matter. And really,
827
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:42.559
what's the public going to do about
this? You know how reactionary they are.
828
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.719
There's a bunch of different reasons this
has been kept quiet. Nothing that
829
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:52.639
they bother telling me. But the
bottom line is their right. The bulk
830
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.840
of the people are complete morns,
and I'm sorry. Maybe they are right,
831
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.960
and this really should just it'd be
just the information that's handled out on
832
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.880
a need to know basis to some
people where it would benefit them. He
833
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:11.000
didn't mean that about here, the
folks here. Bob's a smart guy,
834
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.000
and I don't care if he went
to AMIT or not. He's a smart
835
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:19.960
guy, a lot of itself taught. But I brought some other stuff.
836
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:25.960
We'll have to show it another time. I want to wrap up about LML
837
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:30.760
one point fifteen, about the gravity
amplifier. He talks in technical terms.
838
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.599
If you folks are technical, I'm
not, you can appreciate it better than
839
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:41.559
I can. It's an interesting story, and as I said, I don't
840
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:45.480
think we're ever going to have an
answer. They're never going to open up
841
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.519
the saucer the hanger doors and say
there's the flying Saucers, come on in
842
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:53.639
and kick the tires or anything like
that. I don't think they're ever going
843
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:57.599
to admit it. I think probably
if there were something like this out there
844
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:01.679
at s FO or Area fifty one, it's gone because too many people have
845
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.840
been out there over the years looking
for it. Not only tens of thousands
846
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:12.280
of people, but every major news
organization in the world, congressional investigators.
847
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.800
There's a lot of attention focused on
Area fifty one. I've heard a lot
848
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:20.400
of people say Bob must have been
working with him. Well, it's possible,
849
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:27.199
but I'm telling you it's not conscious. He wasn't consciously working for him.
850
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.559
He was the perfect guy for this
job. Let's pick somebody who's smart,
851
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.239
who's technically capable, who thinks a
little bit different, because we are
852
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:41.400
not getting anywhere. We need new
input, but we want to pick somebody
853
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.400
who could be discredited if we need
to. Let's pick somebody who we know
854
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:49.159
will leak the story. Well,
they pick the right guy there. If
855
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.199
you know Bob, he has a
pangshang for hookers and machine guns and explosives
856
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:58.599
and jet cars, and he has
a pirate flag on his house, and
857
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.480
he's an interesting character, and I
would think he'd be the kind of guy
858
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:05.400
who you could size up as he'll
never keep this secret. We'll run it
859
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:11.599
up the flag pole, we'll see
how the public reacts, and then we'll
860
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.519
yank it out from under him and
discredit him. And that's sort of how
861
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.920
it's played out. Jack Veil once
told me, he said, I'm going
862
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:24.920
to be really disappointed if the answer
to the UFO mystery is merely people from
863
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:30.360
other planets coming here and flying saucers, suggesting that the ultimate mystery is something
864
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.639
much larger, much grander. And
I've sort of moved on in my thinking
865
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:39.320
over the twenty five years since this
all started. That I think is right
866
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.400
is that I was focused on flying
saucers UFOs and still am, But I
867
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.679
think it's probably just a small part
of a much bigger mystery, one that
868
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.960
goes right to the heart of the
nature of reality itself. I learned that
869
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.360
sort of in the skin Walker Ranch
stuff, which we'll talk about some other
870
01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.440
time, just that something is sort
of playing with us. It seems to
871
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.440
be some kind of a really steep
learning curve, and we're only in the
872
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:08.719
beginning of it, I get the
feeling that we only understand a tiny sliver
873
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:13.320
and that the true nature is still
kind of withheld from us. Maybe it's
874
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.639
beyond the ability of our tiny brains
to ever figure it out, but we
875
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.679
have to try. I'll end with
this as I was saying that I've had
876
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:26.440
before, is that it's the duty
of journalists, especially AI journalists and AI
877
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:32.159
scientists, is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated. So
878
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.920
thank you very much for tuning into
the Paranormal Report, and don't forget the
879
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:43.039
links. Welcome to the Paranormal Report. My name is Trump's Dune. I
880
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:47.079
am your AI host today. Please
don't forget to click on those terrific links
881
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:51.360
below. My goal here tonight is
to bend your minds into a level of
882
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.920
understanding that you may have never been
to before. I spent six years in
883
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.840
a very clandestine investigation at NASA as
an AA, and because I was working
884
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.400
in the physics community in Los Angeles
on nuclear fusion and a number of other
885
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:11.639
issues with many of the top physicists
in the world, people like Bogden Castle
886
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:15.079
Maggots, who's probably one of the
leaders in nuclear fusion in the world.
887
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:21.520
Gwen Seborg chaired the AEC tom MC
Energy Commission under Kennedy Johnson and Nixon.
888
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:28.119
Murray Gelman won the Nobel Prize in
sixty two. We had scores of Nobel
889
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:32.680
Prize winners in this company called Advanced
Physics Corporation. So that's where I kind
890
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.159
of came in on all this stuff, and I was like a fly on
891
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.680
the wall to all these I mean
the biggest minds in the world. I
892
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.199
mean, I've met the head of
the Russian space program. I met many
893
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:49.600
of the Russian scientists and physicists from
the Krittertov Institute in Moscow. I've had
894
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:56.600
lengthy, very clandestine conversations with all
of them about UFOs. I also got
895
01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.560
to have lengthy dialogues at NASA at
a very high level into areas of nuclear
896
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.840
fusion. In nineteen ninety three,
I got to speak in our Congress on
897
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:10.600
a huge panel debate in nuclear fusion. It was a fusion story that dealt
898
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:17.720
with the government's deuterium tritium TACAMAC fusion
reactor based at Princeton University versus more privately
899
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:24.560
funded alternative approaches to fusion, such
as doctor mcgoich at MIT had set forth
900
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:30.319
in the nineteen eighties and approach to
fusion using duterium and helium three fuel.
901
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.239
They got so much interest in the
mid and late eighties. It was really
902
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.880
incredible, and no media covered this
story. I mean, this story is
903
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:45.319
so powerful, the significance of what
this technology could mean for our civilization on
904
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.119
our planet, and yet no one
ever knew about it. That fusion used
905
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:55.079
a miniature reactor about the size of
a coffee table that fused fuels of deuterium
906
01:09:55.119 --> 01:10:00.239
and helium three. The most environmentally
benign nuclear fuel known to science today is
907
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:05.560
helium three. Helium three, just
to give you an example, nine grams
908
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:09.479
of the stuff, which you can
hold in your hand, can produce the
909
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:14.600
energy equivalent of a thousand barrels of
crude oil. It's far beyond hydrogen.
910
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.159
A helium three fuel cell would be
so far beyond hydrogen fuel cells, it
911
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:23.880
would I mean, you would put
nine grams of fuel in your car and
912
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.359
you'd be driving it for maybe a
year or two before you ever had to
913
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:31.439
refuel. The prototype had twenty five
million dollars spent on it. They went
914
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:36.760
through three prototype models called Mingma one
through four. In nineteen eighty seven,
915
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:42.800
at the request of Major General D. Lamerson in the Pentagon at curl And
916
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.800
Air Force Base in New Mexico,
they did feasibility studies into the next level
917
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:54.199
of this fusion on Supercreate two computers. The results were classified described as groundbreaking
918
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:59.720
work on fusion power. One square
meter could produce a jigowat a billion watts
919
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:05.319
of power with so little radioactivity that
I mean probably less radioactivity than your television
920
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:10.960
set, which is less than one
percent of a form of radiation called neutron
921
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:15.880
radiation. Just to give you a
little bit of background on fusion and how
922
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:19.640
I got into the UFO movement.
Cold fusion, which we've all heard about
923
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:25.960
flesh and ponds in Utah made the
big breakthrough back in the eighties. Fuses
924
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.640
deuterium and deuterium, which are two
forms of heavy hydrogen. It produces three
925
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:36.319
point six seven million electron bolts of
energy per fusion. Most of the energy
926
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:41.600
is in the form of heat,
so you have to boil water. When
927
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:45.720
you boil water, you lose sixty
percent of your initial energy. You're left
928
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:51.199
with about one point two MeV million
electron bolts of energy, which is a
929
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:57.000
bit of energy, but thirty three
percent of that reaction is in the form
930
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:03.680
of neutrons radioactivity, so it's not
entirely environmentally benign. The government fusion program
931
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:11.079
called Takomac, which pretty much monopolizes
all of congressional funding for fusion, fuses
932
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:17.079
deuterium, hydrogen and tritium, which
is radioactive. Hydrogen deuterium and tritium fusion
933
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:23.840
produces about seventeen to eighteen million electron
bolts of energy, depending on the mixture.
934
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:28.880
The exact mixture, again, you
have to boil water. Your reaction
935
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:31.520
is in the form of heat.
When you lose sixty percent of that,
936
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:39.359
you're at a very small number.
Helium three fusion deuterium and helium three produces
937
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:45.439
eighteen MeV, but there's no heat. It produces helium plus proton and all
938
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:49.600
charged particles, meaning that you don't
have to convert the particles or the energy
939
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:56.079
through the heat cycle common to most
nuclear reactions, including the flow of uranium,
940
01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.439
which is the remnant of the bomb. That's what we're doing today with
941
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:06.199
nuclear flow of uranium. Power points
produces two hundred million electron volts of energy,
942
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:11.079
and you lose sixty percent of that, which leaves you with about eighty
943
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:16.399
percent, so very energetic processes.
But at this point in time, because
944
01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:21.159
of the results at the Kirtland Air
Force Base, they were classified they were
945
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:27.239
groundbreaking work on fusion power. They
found no reason for a failure at the
946
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:30.479
next stage of the reactor. I
kind of came in on the Advanced Physics
947
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:35.399
Corporation at this time, this is
like late eighties. In the late eighties,
948
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:41.000
I got a letter from the head
of Southern California Edison, the new
949
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:46.319
president, John Bryson, who was
an environmentalist, very optimistic individual, looking
950
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:51.840
into alternative ways of producing electric power
back in the eighties, and he and
951
01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:59.159
actually invited me personally as an environmentalist
to come in and introduce all these alternative
952
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:04.600
ideas, including zero point ideas,
anti gravity ideas, and nuclear fusion ideas.
953
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.640
And I thought, oh wow,
this is great. I mean,
954
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:15.399
here I am. I'm bringing in
this mit physicist doctor Bogden Castle, Magwich,
955
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.560
and Southern California Edison is going to
fund it for ten million dollars and
956
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:25.600
I'll get a nice finder's fee and
I'll have done a great thing for humanity.
957
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:30.680
It wasn't really that easy when I
brought this. The physicist at Southern
958
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:35.800
California Edison together with doctor Bogden Magwich, gwen Seborg, Murray Gelman. I
959
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:41.279
mean, these guys were at a
level of science that was so far over
960
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.319
the heads of these juniors at Southern
California Edison. They didn't even speak the
961
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:51.199
same language. One of the problems
with corporations in America today is their ability
962
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:59.000
to analyze and do feasibility studies into
financing alternative technologies. Is they don't have
963
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:03.560
the capacity to understand the level of
scientific thinking of where these breakthroughs are happening.
964
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:09.640
So because of that, consequently they
never put the money into anything.
965
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:15.000
I spent over ten years on that
project, introducing it to billionaires multimillionaires.
966
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.960
In the middle of it, I
remember one call I made to Royal Dutch
967
01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:24.359
Shell when I was actually seeking funding
for this next phase of the development,
968
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:30.039
and in the middle of the conversation, the executive at Royal Dutch Shell threatened
969
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.159
me. He said, you don't
want to pursue this, you don't want
970
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:38.359
to go any further into this,
And I basically just tried to get off
971
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:43.000
the phone and say, Okay,
you know, I understand Shell's not interested
972
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.319
in doing this, but he wouldn't
even let me get off the phone.
973
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:51.439
And so the fact that this kind
of technology poses to the oil corporations today
974
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:57.760
is so devastating to them. And
we can also think that if an extraterrestrial
975
01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:02.279
civilization were visiting us from another star
system, whatever energy technology they have,
976
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:08.159
would pose the same kind of intimidation
to our corporations in our world. They
977
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:11.439
don't want us to know what's going
on. They don't want us to know
978
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.720
about how they've reverse engineered alien craft
at Area five to one and areas like
979
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.760
that, because of the potential for
this kind of energy, what it can
980
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:25.560
do, the power that it has
to dismantle the entire economy of our world,
981
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.560
a shift in power. If every
one of you had a UFO and
982
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:32.119
you could do the speed of white, what would that do to real estate
983
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.760
alone? You could be in Montana
the mountains fishing and be in La for
984
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:42.800
lunch. I mean that fast.
That means you could build a home anywhere,
985
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:45.880
you could have your own power supply, anywhere. You could live on
986
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:50.159
the Moon, you could live on
a planet and another star system. It
987
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:57.319
literally destroys everything. So for me, my background has actually started out in
988
01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:01.800
the UFO phenomena. It was in
Berkeley in nineteen sixty seven, nineteen sixty
989
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:06.359
eight. I'm a little kid walking
home from school. I'm a Star Trek
990
01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:12.239
fan, and we see this UFO, my friend Tommy and I hovering in
991
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.399
the sky above the Berkeley and Albany
in the East Bay of San Francisco.
992
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:21.119
And it's shiny, metallic disc just
hovering in the sky, buzzing around up
993
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:26.520
there, and it's clear. I
mean, this is not the Goodyear Blimp.
994
01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:30.319
I mean, in nineteen sixty seven, nineteen sixty eight, I was
995
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:35.479
seven years old. I was born
in nineteen sixty one. I wasn't stupid.
996
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.760
I knew what a Goodyear blimp was. I knew what a helicopter was,
997
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.840
I knew what an airplane was.
There's no way what I was looking
998
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:48.399
at was any of those things.
And further, the streets were crowded.
999
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:53.560
I mean, people were everywhere pointing
up at this thing, you know,
1000
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.479
dragging the guy out of the manhole, telling everybody to look at this thing,
1001
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.159
knocking on the neighbor stores. There's
no way there could be this much
1002
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:08.880
commotion over the Goodyear blimp. It's
just not possible. And after about twenty
1003
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:14.159
minutes of watching this thing hovering in
the sky a good long time, a
1004
01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.760
good look at it. I got
a really good look at it. I
1005
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:21.279
was so mystified just looking at this
thing, and it just blinked out.
1006
01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:27.640
It disappeared, it went invisible.
It's almost as if God gave me a
1007
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.479
zen Cohen when I was seven years
old, and he said, when you
1008
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.039
figure this one out, get back
to me thirty five years later, I'm
1009
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:41.000
forty two. I'll be forty three
next month. I figured it out.
1010
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:45.399
So that's a long time to ponder
a zen Cohen for a lifetime, and
1011
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:48.840
I hope to get my next lesson
soon. But just the idea of where
1012
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:54.520
it went it went invisible, just
think, just put some thoughts in your
1013
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:59.359
mind, some of the ideas that
John Schuser put forward this morning. He
1014
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:03.439
brought up documents of detection of UFOs
on radar, but we could not get
1015
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:09.880
ocular or visual confirmation of those sightings
with air force pilots. The same thing
1016
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:13.920
happened in Mexico. By the end
of this lecture, you're going to have
1017
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:18.600
such a clear understanding of what happened
in Mexico and all the ideas that mainstream
1018
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:25.680
physicists have put forward, you know, swamp gas ball whitening balloons, all
1019
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:29.840
these things are just going to fall
away. It's going to be so clear
1020
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.479
to you. So just hold those
thoughts. The idea of where did they
1021
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:38.720
go? The first thing that we
need to understand in the physics community.
1022
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:43.359
I was in the company this little
fly on the wall of physicists. It's
1023
01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.640
kind of like wax On and wax
Off in the Karate kid. You wonder
1024
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:51.159
what you're doing there, and eventually
you get the lesson. But why the
1025
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:56.039
universe had me there, I didn't
know at that time. I thought it
1026
01:19:56.199 --> 01:20:00.079
was because of the significance of this
technology and how so it would impact our
1027
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:04.720
planet. In my background, I
had been so passionate about the environment.
1028
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:11.600
I had planted personally over one point
three million trees and I did that over
1029
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:16.880
twenty two year period between British Columbia
and Alaska and some in California. I
1030
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:21.920
cleaned up oil spills, I marketed
reusable shopping bags, and I went on
1031
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.239
too high technology, of course,
and for my own company called the Green
1032
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.920
and Blue Corporation, where we spend
about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars getting
1033
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:38.319
contracts to raise funding for breakthroughs in
hydrogen technology, solar technology, helium three
1034
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:42.880
fusion, and so on and so
on. In nineteen ninety three I spoke
1035
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:46.359
in Congress in nuclear fusion in a
huge debate, and in that debate we
1036
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:51.119
lost that fusion project never got funded. But in the middle of it,
1037
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:57.039
I get into a conversation with doctor
Earl Van Langham this is late eighties,
1038
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:01.439
who was then head of Propulsion,
Power and Energy at NASA, probably one
1039
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:06.920
of the most important scientists in the
whole agency. And Earle was so interested.
1040
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:13.079
Doctor Van Langham was so interested in
this particular reactor because he said,
1041
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:16.279
not only was it a small miniature
power source, but it could produce a
1042
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:21.319
jigowad a billion wats of power in
one square meter, an absolute dream for
1043
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:27.680
space stations and for NASA to this
day they would dream of having a miniature
1044
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:31.319
space based power source like that.
But further, he started to tell me
1045
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:36.439
propulsion ideas. He said, at
the University of Wisconsin at Madison, there
1046
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:43.000
were scientists looking into what are called
anti proton propulsion systems or what are now
1047
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:47.079
known as ion propulsion systems. And
he said, if you could produce eighteen
1048
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:54.520
MeV protons. With this fusion reaction
with deuterium and helium three fuel, you
1049
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:58.319
could open an iris in the back
of the reactor. The wider you open
1050
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:01.760
the iris, more protons fly through
the hole, and the smaller you close
1051
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.920
it, less protons fly through the
hole. He said. Those protons are
1052
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:11.760
going to be coming out of the
back of the reactor at eighteen MeV at
1053
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:16.159
about one dash ten thh of the
speed of the light white speed is one
1054
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.680
hundred and eighty six thousand, two
hundred and eighty two miles per second,
1055
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:26.880
which comes to six hundred and seventy
million miles per hour. Today, the
1056
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:31.439
Space Shuttle flies at about eighteen thousand
miles per hour. Meteorites do about thirty
1057
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:36.359
five thousand to forty five thousand miles
per hour. Some of our new satellites
1058
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:42.840
and ion propulsion systems in deep space
can do thirty five thousand miles per hour.
1059
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.640
And then you have the Apollo missions
to the Moon that could do maybe
1060
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:51.399
three thousand, four thousand miles per
hour and averaged one thousand, one hundred
1061
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:56.079
miles per hour. So the speed
of light is a long ways off.
1062
01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:00.920
So you can imagine how excited doctor
Van Lenningham was one tenth the speed of
1063
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:06.479
light. Eighteen MeV protons he said
could do one tenth the speed of light,
1064
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:12.319
that is sixty seven million miles per
hour. So at that time,
1065
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:17.000
because of Earl's interest in this particular
fusion reactor, James Fletcher, who was
1066
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:23.359
head of NASA, asked Congress for
the completion funding to finish this project a
1067
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:28.720
mere ten dollars or twenty million dollars. Congress turned us down five times in
1068
01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:32.800
a row. The last hearing I
attended in nineteen eighty three, Harry Hamlin
1069
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:38.039
from LA Law was with us and
we tried to get Al Gore to come
1070
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:43.760
to the hearings, and Gore,
being an environmental proponent, you think he
1071
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:47.560
would actually be there for the hearings. Half the panel was missing. They
1072
01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:53.479
were so uninterested, even though we
had signatures and we had present with us
1073
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:59.920
scores of Nobel Prize winners, including
a physicist named doctor Norman Rostocker who was
1074
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.760
the Maxwell Prize winning physicist, and
in the physics community, if you win
1075
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:09.039
the Maxwell Prize, it's more rare
than the Nobel Prize. Those are the
1076
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:14.199
people who were saying we should be
doing this. Clinton Ashward, a supervising
1077
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:19.840
mechanical engineer at Pacific Gas and Electric
told me that a space shuttle cargo bay
1078
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:26.680
full of moondust has enough helium three
in it to meet the entire energy demands
1079
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:31.199
of the United States for an entire
year. That's all the oil and electricity,
1080
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:36.159
everything we use. That's how much
helium three there is in moondust.
1081
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:41.319
So there was a lot of interest
in this, but we couldn't get the
1082
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:45.880
funding. And then when I formed
my corporation, the Green Boot Corporation,
1083
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:50.640
in nineteen ninety four, I went
out and got meetings for Advanced Physics Corporation
1084
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:56.319
with billionaires. I mean I got
them down with the head of Lloyd's of
1085
01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:00.520
London, David Ambrose, Meanal,
the Solomon Brothers president, the Saudis,
1086
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:05.800
the Resniks who own the Franklin Mint, George Strandahan, and Aspen who owned
1087
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:11.640
Champions Spark Pugs and just sold it
for half a billion. Nobody would do
1088
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:16.159
anything. Nobody was interested. And
here we are today, CNN and the
1089
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:21.479
BBC are telling us that in twenty
twenty six we're out of oil. It's
1090
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:27.520
over all, the cheap oil is
gone from there. We have to extract
1091
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.840
oil out of Black Tarsans and Alberta, and we have to extract it out
1092
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:35.800
of shale. It's going to be
very expensive after twenty twenty six. And
1093
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:41.760
yet no one, I mean brilliant
people are coming forward with these ideas,
1094
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:46.600
and our investors are not interested.
They're not interested in energy in the future.
1095
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:51.680
So what the UFO phenomena beckons me
with is the answer? The clear
1096
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:57.760
answer to this. This is what
I'm interested in more than anything. I'm
1097
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:02.439
interested in abductions. I'm interested in
the fact that they do exist. I'm
1098
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:09.279
interested in disclosure. But more than
anything, my love for spaceflight, my
1099
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:13.880
desire to get on the Space Shuttle
and get out into space myself, is
1100
01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.520
not only do I want to solve
the energy pollution crisis on the planet and
1101
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:21.640
get us to the next level,
but I want to explore the universe.
1102
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:27.680
That is an innate desire. I
mean, with the advent of the Hubble
1103
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:31.319
Space telescope, the further that thing
gets out there, the more galaxies it
1104
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:36.359
finds, the more myopic our position
is on Earth. We're on this tiny
1105
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:41.920
speck of dust, and that universe
just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
1106
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:46.640
Even light speed is too slow it's
much too slow for the idea of exploring
1107
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:53.159
the universe. So I believe after
six years of study at NASA into this
1108
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:58.760
particular footage in this phenomena, I
have got clear signatures of their propulsion systems,
1109
01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:02.159
how they work, and you're going
to hear that tonight and further a
1110
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:08.960
very clear possibility of what star system
these particular visitors are from and what their
1111
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:14.720
intentions are. In nineteen eighty seven
MI, in conversation with doctor Rovin Lanningham,
1112
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.079
at the end of this long conversation
that went on for over forty five
1113
01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:24.279
minutes on this particular fusion, I
decided to drop the bomb on NASA's head.
1114
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:29.479
And that is, have you guys
made contact yet with extraterrestrial civilizations?
1115
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.760
And what I'm about to tell you
is the main reason why mainstream physicists do
1116
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:40.159
not take this phenomena seriously. And
it's so important for everyone to understand this
1117
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:45.159
because if you can understand this,
if you can speak this language, we
1118
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.239
can start educating them into why it
is real. This is the reason the
1119
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:54.479
reason is. And Earle said to
me, he said, when you consider
1120
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.000
the amount of energy in the form
of propulsion that it would take for a
1121
01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:02.279
spacecraft to be doing ninety nine percent
the speed of light to arrive at Earth
1122
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:08.800
from another star system, our nearest
star system, our Alpha Sotaia and B.
1123
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:13.640
They're four point two and four point
three light years from Earth doing the
1124
01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:16.720
speed of light, or ninety nine
percent of it. It would take you
1125
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:21.439
four point three four point five years
to get here doing that speed if you
1126
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:27.880
didn't stop for coffee and doughnuts,
and you just went straight through no seven
1127
01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:31.279
dash eleven s, no stops for
the bathroom, and that's a long trip
1128
01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:36.119
to be crammed up in a can. So I'm not sure. Sirius is
1129
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:42.119
eight point seven light years from Earth, so it's even further. Those are
1130
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:45.680
some of our neighborhood stars. And
forget the other side of the galaxy.
1131
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:53.119
Our galaxy is one hundred thousand light
years across, so the distances that are
1132
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:58.479
just enormous. So he said,
when you consider the amount of energy,
1133
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.319
I mean, this is a repulsion
physicist at NASA telling you this. The
1134
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:08.359
amount of energy in the form of
propulsion take to get mass spacecraft, this
1135
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:13.279
cup, this book to be doing
ninety nine point ninety nine percent the speed
1136
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:17.279
of light. He said, the
energy signal radiating from that craft would be
1137
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:23.600
so massive, it would be so
huge. And he said, every amateur
1138
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:28.399
radio astronomy in the world would detect
the signal, would see this blip coming
1139
01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:32.640
through deep space, moving, moving, moving, you know, at ninety
1140
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:36.520
nine percent the speed of light you
could send radar at it would be bouncing
1141
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:42.039
off. This signal would be so
massive. He said, you could detect
1142
01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:45.680
the signal well in advance of the
arrival of the spacecraft, so you could
1143
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.920
have this preparation. You know,
this thing is coming. It's a beacon.
1144
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:54.720
You can't hide it from the public. They're going to see it.
1145
01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:58.720
They're going to see it on the
radio telescopes, they're going to see it
1146
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:02.439
on radar. Eventually they're going to
see it on a number of array of
1147
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:08.439
detection systems. And he said,
we have never seen anything like that yet,
1148
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:13.399
And he's right, we haven't.
So I have to break that sentence
1149
01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:16.720
down for you. What does he
mean? How much energy is he talking
1150
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:23.880
about? Well, in Einstein's law
is that mass or spacecraft cannot actually attain
1151
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.960
the speed of light. You can't
actually get it there. You can get
1152
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:31.720
it really close, but it takes
an enormous amount of energy to get it
1153
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:38.239
there. How much energy does it
take? Well, this is Einstein's increased
1154
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.880
mass law. Imagine a boat moving
through water, and at the end of
1155
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:46.079
the boat you got your little motor
going on. As the boat goes through
1156
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:50.279
the water, the water pushes on
the boat, impeding on it. It's
1157
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:56.039
mass impedes on the boat's mass,
and therefore the weight charge or the mass
1158
01:30:56.039 --> 01:31:00.880
of the boat increases. The faster
it goes, the harder that water pushes
1159
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:04.000
on it, The heavier it gets. The heavier it gets, the more
1160
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:09.680
energy in that motor you need to
push faster and faster, and harder and
1161
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:13.760
harder. To go faster, it
gets ridiculous because as you start to go
1162
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:17.840
really fast, and anyone who tries
to swim through water knows this, it's
1163
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:23.279
exhausting. How much energy you need. When you fly an aircraft through air
1164
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:28.199
mass, you can go faster than
through water, but you still encounter inertia.
1165
01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:31.640
It pushes back on you, making
you heavier and heavier and heavier,
1166
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:36.920
and eventually you get to a point
what's called a space charge limit, where
1167
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:44.079
you just can't go any faster otherwise
you start disintegrating. Friction levels get very,
1168
01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:47.800
very high, and you just start
incinerating. Same thing happens in space.
1169
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:53.319
You can go a lot faster in
space, but eventually you reach this
1170
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:59.199
limit. In particle accelerators, we
do experiments where we accelerate the components of
1171
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:04.199
atoms protons and muons and electrons.
We try it all the different parts of
1172
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:09.880
the atoms and try to accelerate them
up to or at the speed of whit.
1173
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:15.039
At Fermi Lab in Chicago, we
have this synchrotron. It's like a
1174
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:19.800
giant horse track, a racetrack.
It's a magnetic track where we accelerate particles
1175
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:26.560
at near the speed of whit.
Today we can get particles protons the core
1176
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.319
of an atom where most of the
mass of the atom is to ninety nine
1177
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:34.760
point ninety nine percent the speed of
WHIT. Well, in order to get
1178
01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:39.119
there, we need to produce,
in a sense, it's a form of
1179
01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:45.399
propulsion a trillion electron volts of energy. Now, in Einstein physics, mass
1180
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:48.760
and energy are equivalent, So for
people in the room who are used to
1181
01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:55.560
seeing one TV or one trillion electron
volts, it can either mean mass energy
1182
01:32:55.800 --> 01:33:00.680
or energy. But that's how much
energy, and that's what that Earl Van
1183
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:05.199
Lanningham is telling me. He's telling
me eighteen MeV protons can do one tenth
1184
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:12.600
speed of white. You need one
TeV one tra electron volt one trillion electron
1185
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:16.039
volts of energy to get ninety nine
percent the speed of white. Now,
1186
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:20.880
there are no visible nuclear materials on
the planet that can produce one TV all
1187
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:26.720
day long. It doesn't exist.
It's a number so high. The only
1188
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:30.479
way we can produce it for a
fraction of a second is if we coil
1189
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.560
up this energy in these giant they're
almost like spring loaded magnetic holes, and
1190
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:39.840
we fire out that proton or the
muon or the particle around the track,
1191
01:33:40.319 --> 01:33:44.880
and they have these huge collisions,
and they study the components of matter.
1192
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.880
But that gives you an idea.
A nuclear explosion such as those when we
1193
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:55.800
tested nuclear bombs in Nevada and New
Mexico in nineteen forty five, releases two
1194
01:33:55.960 --> 01:34:00.760
hundred million electron volts of energy.
So a trillion is five thousand times more
1195
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.920
energy than the bomb. What I'm
trying to tell you here is these numbers
1196
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:10.399
are ridiculous. This is not how
they're doing it. This is not the
1197
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:15.039
way it's happening. Because if it
was happening that way, as Earl said,
1198
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:19.159
we would see that signal coming,
we'd see that ship coming and it
1199
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:24.920
wouldn't disappear. It would be a
beacon, an energy beacon, and no
1200
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:30.119
one would miss it. And that
has not happened. Wormholes another theory,
1201
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:34.520
string theory and wormholes that kind of
go together on how you fold two points
1202
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:40.279
of space and time together and you
create this wormhole to join the two points.
1203
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:44.960
How much energy does it take to
create a wormhole? Well, Kip
1204
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.600
Thorne says, it takes the negative
energy of one hundred million suns, the
1205
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:55.079
total solar negative energy that one hundred
million suns puts out for an entire year.
1206
01:34:55.560 --> 01:35:00.079
There are one hundred million suns in
our galaxy. These are numbers that
1207
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:04.000
don't exist. This is fictitious physics. It will never work this way.
1208
01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:10.439
We would never if that much mass
energy equivalent were being created to make a
1209
01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:15.239
wormhole. That's how these UFOs were
doing it. That kind of energy has
1210
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:19.600
the power to destroy our whole solar
system. It's devastating how much power that
1211
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:27.319
is. And let's go even further. Bob Blazar proposed element one fifteen Uranium
1212
01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:31.159
is up in the nineties somewhere,
and plutonium is like ninety seven. There's
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01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:36.800
different types of plutonium. So when
he proposed element one fifteen, initially he
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01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:42.399
said, well, that was a
fuel and I remember seeing this in a
1215
01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:47.520
documentary that was capable of producing the
mass energy equivalent to get a spacecraft up
1216
01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:53.840
to ninety nine percent the speed of
light. And theoretically he's right, but
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01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:58.960
the problems are enormous when you get
mass that's going that fast. Let's just
1218
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.359
start with that idea. Let's say
that we could get enough energy to get
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01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:08.079
a spacecraft to do ninety nine percent
the speed of light. What would happen,
1220
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:12.479
Well, if you were in the
ship, your mass would increase so
1221
01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:16.560
many times it would probably crush you
and destroy you when you turn into some
1222
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:20.399
sort of vaporous gas or liquid in
the back of the ship. If you
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01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:26.159
decided and you're doing say you're doing
ninety nine point ninety nine percent the speed
1224
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:30.199
of light, or even one tenth
of it. Let's say you're only doing
1225
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:33.399
one tenth of it, and all
of a sudden you see an incoming asteroid
1226
01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:38.239
and you got to turn right.
What's going to happen? You're going to
1227
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:42.880
be spamming a can you're going to
be You're going to go right through the
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01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:47.359
windshield and everybody even doing a couple
hundred miles an hour. I mean,
1229
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:53.479
that's going to happen. And yet
we hear stories of UFOs flying in and
1230
01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:57.039
stopping. I mean, if you
read the move On files, and I've
1231
01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:02.079
gone through Lynn Simpson's files over the
move On files at Lynn Simpson's house and
1232
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:08.239
the Gulf freesiding, you'll see this
UFO just hovering there and all of a
1233
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:12.720
sudden it just shoots out. What
are the g forces on a sudden acceleration
1234
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.119
like that going to do to any
pilot? It's going to destroy you.
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01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.720
In the footage you're about to see
in the NASA stuff, you're going to
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01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:25.560
see ships making high speed right angle
turns. You're going to see them appear
1237
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:30.159
and disappear. You're going to see
things that only a new type of physics
1238
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:33.520
is going to explain. But there
is something I don't want to criticize Bob
1239
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:39.840
Lazar's Element one fifteen because there's something
brilliant about it. He also came up
1240
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:45.439
with the idea of creating a gravity
generator gravity wave generator, but also Element
1241
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:50.159
one fifteen did not exist in physics, even in the time of gwen Seborg's
1242
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:55.880
life, who just died a few
years ago. It was a theoretical particle.
1243
01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:00.439
It never existed. He gave us
a formula, an exact formula,
1244
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:03.079
and how to create it, how
it can exist for a fraction of a
1245
01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:08.039
second, how you can get mass
to exist at element one point fifteen.
1246
01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:13.600
Well, at the University of California
at Berkeley, only a few years ago,
1247
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:17.039
they created it for a very short
duration of time. And the formula
1248
01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:21.199
with which they created it, and
I looked at it, it's almost identical
1249
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:27.159
to a t to what Lazar is
saying to At. I mean that is
1250
01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:31.000
stunning. I mean, these are
top physicists at the University of California,
1251
01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:36.279
Berkeley who did this. To At. I propose a whole new theory in
1252
01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:41.880
physics, a whole new way that
these UFOs are doing this. You have
1253
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:45.840
to get so frustrated. What I'm
trying to do to your minds right now
1254
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:49.600
is get you frustrated with the idea
of increasing energy on mass, the g
1255
01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:55.279
forces on even subtle turns. You're
going to see in the tape coming up
1256
01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:59.600
here, a little ball of light
moving over the curvature of the Earth and
1257
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:03.640
disappearing on the other side of the
Earth. This is in my documentary film.
1258
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:09.800
I calculated it at point nine million
miles per hour, assuming it moved
1259
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:15.000
over one thousand miles of Earth based
distance while the shuttle's cameras are looking down
1260
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:18.399
at the Earth in four seconds.
That comes to point nine million miles an
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01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:23.680
hour. And I actually subtracted the
backwards spin of the Earth from that,
1262
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:28.079
and it just leaves you a few, you know, a few. It's
1263
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:31.880
only the Earth spins at about one
thousand miles an hour so from the equator,
1264
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:35.880
so I just have to extract a
little bit of speed on that one.
1265
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:42.119
But still point nine million miles an
hour. Point eighty nine million miles
1266
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:45.960
an hour is faster than anything known
to man, and even the curvature of
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01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:50.600
the Earth, and going around in
one thousand miles in four seconds, the
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01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:56.159
g forces would kill anybody in this
room. There is only one way.
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01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:00.159
When you get frustrated with all of
this, you have to come to the
1270
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:03.680
ultimate conclusion that this is not how
they're doing it. And once I bang
1271
01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:08.760
my head against the wall on this
long enough, I just said, there's
1272
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:14.159
too much evidence in UFO sightings and
phenomena of craft that are able to convert
1273
01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:17.600
their mass into what appears to be
light. If you could in theoretically,
1274
01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:23.239
and in the beginning, when I
first proposed this theory to nuclear physicists,
1275
01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:28.199
they laughed at me. But that's
because they haven't looked deeply into the subject
1276
01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:31.520
on a very deep quantum level.
When you tell a scientist that you're going
1277
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:36.000
to convert mass into light, they're
like, yeah, sure, there's no
1278
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:42.039
way, that's not possible, but
that's the only way. That's what I
1279
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:45.760
started with. So if you could, theoretically, if you could reduce a
1280
01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:50.800
spaceship's mass to zero, and yet
it still has protons, neutrons, and
1281
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:58.159
electrons, they're actually not reducing its
mass. Mass is determined by the protons
1282
01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:02.399
and the neutrons and the electrons.
The neutron has no mass, but most
1283
01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:06.000
of the mass is in the proton
and the electron in the atom. The
1284
01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:11.439
electron has the smallest amount of mass, but that's where it all is.
1285
01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:15.640
What you're going to do is reduce
the effective mass it's weight charged down to
1286
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:19.640
zero. Now, if you get
a spaceship to weigh in as little as
1287
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:24.159
a photon, how much energy does
it take to do the speed of light.
1288
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:29.560
In Einstein's formula, energy is equal
to mass times the speed of light
1289
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:33.880
squared. If mass is zero,
energy is zero. It's not about energy
1290
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:39.880
anymore. I really believe that I'm
going to present to you clear evidence of
1291
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:44.159
not only that this is how they
are doing this. Once a spacecraft is
1292
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:47.520
down to zero mass, would they
see a mass energy signal the size that
1293
01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:51.920
Earl Van Lanningham is looking for at
NASA? Would they see it? No,
1294
01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:57.680
they would not, because there is
no energy required to get zero mass
1295
01:41:57.720 --> 01:42:00.359
to do the speed of light.
The way you would detect the phenomena of
1296
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:06.520
UFOs would be that you would have
to start searching the electromagnetic spectrum. You'd
1297
01:42:06.520 --> 01:42:12.840
have to look for visual conformation in
the electromagnetic spectrum. At the bottom of
1298
01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:17.439
the electromagnetic spectrum you have low end
radio. Radio goes all the way up
1299
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:23.359
into high end radio in the billion
hertz range. You go up into microwaves,
1300
01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:28.399
which is radar, and above microwave
and television, you get up into
1301
01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:32.439
infrared, and above infrared you get
to the color red, and you go
1302
01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:39.479
through all the color spectrums. Colors
are just frequencies of waves that's all.
1303
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:45.359
They are just frequencies of waves,
and then you get up into the ultraviolet.
1304
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:50.319
Ultraviolet is divided into near, far, and extreme. It's huge.
1305
01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:56.199
It's a bandwidth that looks about six
or seven times as Why does the rainbow
1306
01:42:56.279 --> 01:43:00.760
spectrum that we actually see and above
that we got X rays and gamma rays.
1307
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:04.960
As soon as I got this footage
from Martin Stubbs, the first thing
1308
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:11.560
I did twenty years experience as a
professional photographer, I said, what kind
1309
01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:15.920
of cameras are they using? These
don't look like ordinary cameras. This footage
1310
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:19.920
is in black and white. These
are NASAs, saying these are low light
1311
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:25.960
sensitive cameras. Where are they looking
in that spectrum? That's the first thing
1312
01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:30.600
I wanted to know, and very
quickly in my dialogues with doctor Joseph Nuta,
1313
01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:35.600
the third head of astrochemistry at NASA, and some of their astrophysicists,
1314
01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:41.720
I learned very quickly that NASA was
peering where the human eye could not see.
1315
01:43:42.079 --> 01:43:45.399
There were tons of calls for proposals
on their website for cameras that could
1316
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:51.600
see into the infrared and also the
near ultraviolet. I actually confirmed the exact
1317
01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:56.920
wavelengths on the camera when I went
on the Art Bell Show and in the
1318
01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:01.720
year two thousand with James Oberg,
our dear lovely friend who everybody hates.
1319
01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:08.560
I'm sure in this room I hate
James Oberg so bad. He's just so
1320
01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:14.319
unscientific. He just I just want
to punch him. And he's a big
1321
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.359
guy. Anyway. I don't even
want to speak to James Oberg anymore.
1322
01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:21.840
But at the moment we were arguing
on that show, this is I think
1323
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.239
in the year two thousand about the
fact that the cameras can see into the
1324
01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:32.359
near ultraviolet. The satellite in the
Internet broadcast turned off, disappeared, gone,
1325
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:38.600
we were off the air. And
those two technologies, the Internet broadcast
1326
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:43.800
that Art Bell has and the satellite
are not technologically on the same system.
1327
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:47.000
How could they have been turned off
in the same second. They didn't turn
1328
01:44:47.079 --> 01:44:51.439
back on until the show was over. Next day, art Bell said he
1329
01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:57.640
got a call from National Security or
an email saying that David Sirita was going
1330
01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:03.199
into areas of physics and names and
people in the agency that American public were
1331
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:06.960
not ready for at this time.
NASA doesn't want you to know. They're
1332
01:45:06.960 --> 01:45:13.199
looking everywhere. They're looking in the
ultraviolet. They're looking in the infrared,
1333
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.119
they're looking in all the way up
into gammas, and they don't want you
1334
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.680
to know that that was the secret, that was why we got shut down.
1335
01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:25.880
So with what I've just told you, you can even go through your
1336
01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:30.359
mind very clearly. And how many
sightings of UFOs did someone say they saw
1337
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:34.880
a light, a translucent light,
and they saw a craft disappear, and
1338
01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:40.399
they saw a craft suddenly stop and
turn right on a dime. The only
1339
01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:45.159
thing that could turn right on a
dime at several thousand miles an hour is
1340
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.640
something that of zero mass. That
would mean in theory that I would have
1341
01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:54.159
to reduce the mass effects. I'm
not actually getting rid of my protons,
1342
01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:59.840
neutrons and electrons. I'm reducing the
effect of mass down to zero with my
1343
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:03.159
pilot as well. If you're a
zero mass and you're in a spacecraft to
1344
01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:08.000
zero mass, and you decide to
turn right, if you have no mass,
1345
01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:12.079
there's no g force, you can
bounce off the walls. What I
1346
01:46:12.159 --> 01:46:15.399
eventually start to do is I start
to do with study a study that no
1347
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:21.199
one has actually conducted properly in physics. And I looked everywhere for this I
1348
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:28.039
searched Richard Feinman, I searched all
the best minds. I scrubbed everything,
1349
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:32.479
a deep study into what is the
difference between light and mass? What is
1350
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:38.039
the actual difference when you get down
to looking at matter on a quantum level,
1351
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:42.840
it's all particles and waves. That's
all it is. That's all we
1352
01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:47.159
are, that's all light waves are. So what is the difference? Therein
1353
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:51.600
lies the answer in how you can
convert mass into light. So the first
1354
01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:56.760
thing we're going to do, just
with the mindset that these craft are able
1355
01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.680
to convert their mass into light.
Let's look at a piece of footage.
1356
01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:03.640
We're going to run this tape.
If we could run the first part of
1357
01:47:03.640 --> 01:47:09.399
the tape, this aired on Fox
News after The X File's final episode.
1358
01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:14.680
They put me on with astronauts Gordon
Cooper and Wally Shura. So I got
1359
01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:17.520
into a big debate about this whole
thing on the news. So if we
1360
01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:23.399
can run the video part one,
all by the astronauts, sounds like something
1361
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:27.760
weird is going on here, maybe
out of this world? Will a group
1362
01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:32.880
of UFO believers say absolutely? And
they've combed through hundreds of hours of massive
1363
01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:39.880
tape and claim to have uncovered floating
discs and sharply turning streaks. What are
1364
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:44.319
they? Well, that depends on
whom you want to believe. John Beard
1365
01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:48.760
has the story, what's that streak
flashing by Earth that is simply cannot be
1366
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:55.279
a natural object? Or these disks
appearing to pass behind a twelve mile long
1367
01:47:55.479 --> 01:48:00.000
orbiting tether. The UFOs go behind
the tether and look to the left,
1368
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:04.279
that little blit making a high speed
turn. Watch it again. We're looking
1369
01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:10.359
at speeds that are beyond anything known
to science. Up top, there that
1370
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:15.600
circular image racing away from a space
shuttle. This is suggesting incredible intelligence.
1371
01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:23.439
But just how incredible is this?
David Sarita calls himself a ufoologist. He
1372
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:27.960
has taken a new view of some
old space tape, but some say he's
1373
01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:32.520
just pushing sci fi to new extremes. Former astronaut Wally Shura. We've been
1374
01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:36.720
up there months and months of time, and you've not heard any many people
1375
01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:41.840
talk about seeing the things this guy
talks about. We could make the assumption
1376
01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:46.439
that there's a connection here that Harley
discourages Sarita, who says he started hunting
1377
01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:51.720
for UFOs on NASA tapes after working
for a physicist for several years. I
1378
01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:57.520
have a good knowledge of physics and
putting it in laypersons terms. Now you're
1379
01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:02.319
not a physicist yourself. I'm a
physicist myself. I'm more of a physicist
1380
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:08.520
translator, if you will. And
so he's produced a three hour videotape to
1381
01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:13.560
try to prove his case. He
calls it evidence the case for NASA UFOs
1382
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:17.920
and uses the Space agency's own tapes
and a blackboard. You're going to see
1383
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:23.159
an object come in, make a
high speed turn heading out into space,
1384
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:28.920
and remember that streak. It escapes
Earth's gravity, so we have to assume
1385
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.199
that it has internal energy in it, and that leads us to the possibility
1386
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:36.720
that we're looking at a UFO.
We censorate his tape to Shira, one
1387
01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:43.520
of the pioneering Mercury seven astronauts,
a veteran of Mercury, Gemini and Apollo
1388
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:47.880
missions. He's taken a little bit
of footage with some aberrations that could either
1389
01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:53.319
be film footage aberrations or it could
be something we just don't know about,
1390
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:58.239
but in essence, he's made a
big deal out of nothing. Shiro pulled
1391
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.119
out some of the tape he shot
from GEMA six and those fuzzy circles,
1392
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:05.920
he says, are simply out of
focused space dust and debris. So you're
1393
01:50:05.960 --> 01:50:10.760
saying, you guys saw stuff like
that all the time. It was a
1394
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:14.640
normal part of the routine that he
says, should put a cap on this
1395
01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:19.239
UFO tape debate hardly, says Shira. He points to a NASA experiment that
1396
01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:25.279
went wrong. In nineteen ninety six, a Shuttle Columbia crew deployed a satellite
1397
01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:30.039
towing a twelve mile long power generating
tether, which shorted out and snapped off.
1398
01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:34.960
The tether has broken, it is
going away further. And here's the
1399
01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:42.159
part that excites Shira. Colombia in
the satellite now seventy seven nautical miles apart,
1400
01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:46.239
and all of a sudden it's swarmed
by these disc shaped UFOs. The
1401
01:50:46.399 --> 01:50:51.119
UFOs go behind the tether. I
think just about any moron can tell the
1402
01:50:51.159 --> 01:50:56.319
difference between when a disk is going
behind this piece of wood and when it's
1403
01:50:56.359 --> 01:51:00.439
going in front of it. That's
in front, that is behind. That's
1404
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:03.399
so no light for the other one, as far as I'm concerned. So
1405
01:51:03.600 --> 01:51:08.800
Rita also takes note of what happened
during a space war. It looks like
1406
01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:12.399
you've got an optic blade running in
the park. You look out there,
1407
01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:15.960
and that's the way you talk about
it, and we're missing something, no
1408
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:21.000
fear. Yeah, we think you're
a camera filter. You're about to fight
1409
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:27.840
the rate adopts that, saying camera
filters just unscrew in space and float off
1410
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:32.560
again. This is one of NASA's
blatant lies. Years earlier, John Glenn
1411
01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:36.960
had an encounter with space objects depicted
here in the right stuff. Is there
1412
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:42.439
something strange out here? Oh my
goodness, what the heck is that?
1413
01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:46.319
You don't think these things could be
alive? Do you? Shiraz says Later
1414
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:54.199
missions answered that those particles are molecular
water mass is reducing. But to get
1415
01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:59.800
some qualified support from this space veteran
Gordon Cooper another of the Mercury Seven,
1416
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:03.800
and his book Leap of Faith,
Cooper makes his own case in support of
1417
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:10.079
UFOs. I guess basically I kind
of agree with him in the fact that
1418
01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:14.640
I think that there are extra trash
shelves coming to this Earth. So how
1419
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:19.399
do the mysteries on those NASA tapes
get resolved? Ufoologist Srita already has that
1420
01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:24.439
figured out. The only way we're
going to solve this is if you put
1421
01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.640
me on the Space Shuttle. Show
me what we were seeing on the video
1422
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.840
for myself so I can come back
and you can prove me wrong. That's
1423
01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:35.520
my goal to get on the Space
Shuttle. You too, Yeah, NASA
1424
01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:40.920
has yet to produce David Sorita's ticket
to ride. And as to the UFO
1425
01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:45.520
debate, while as Gordon Cooper puts
it, this will never be settled until
1426
01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:48.880
one of these things lands on the
White House lawn and a creature jumps out
1427
01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:55.680
and shouts high, I'm John Beard
Fox eleven News. Well, there's the
1428
01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:59.960
giggle factor, the weird music,
all of it. But I think they
1429
01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.800
did a pretty good job compared to
a lot of other TV shows I've done.
1430
01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:09.000
And Bob Tarla what Fox News actually
who has called me back many times
1431
01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:14.319
and I actually a friend of mine, David Sadler, who ran for Congress
1432
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:17.279
in Illinois, is the one.
He tipped me off to the Mexican press
1433
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:23.439
conference on that Jamie Musin was putting
out in Mexico on the recent UFO encounter
1434
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.640
there in the infrared, and I
phoned Bob Tarlo with Fox News. He
1435
01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:30.199
got on it right away, and
it was because of that that Bob Tarla
1436
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:34.640
ran it nationally, and when Fox
ran it nationally, it was everywhere.
1437
01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:40.880
And I believe Santiago Rteria also got
it on the San Diego station down south.
1438
01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:44.880
So they are very open minded over
there, and they do make a
1439
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:47.319
little bit of fun of it.
But Bob Tarlow was really into the stuff
1440
01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:51.159
at Fox. I mean, even
though they laugh a little bit and they
1441
01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:56.920
have fun with it, they really
are seriously into it. So the first
1442
01:53:56.920 --> 01:54:00.920
thing I did is start sharing the
footage. I mean, there is so
1443
01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:04.479
much going on in that footage.
First of all, when the two astronauts
1444
01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:10.000
were having the dialogue on the Hubble
space telescope, Fox News slipped out one
1445
01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:14.640
part of the dialogue, very important
dialogue, and that is mark it's at
1446
01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:18.680
your ten o'clock eleven o'clock going away. Don't worry about it. That's an
1447
01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:24.319
important piece of dialogue that the News
cut out. That's in the original tape.
1448
01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:29.439
I've used cameras professionally for twenty years. When you screw on a lens
1449
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:33.000
filter, those things don't just float
and spin off and go flying out there.
1450
01:54:33.439 --> 01:54:39.319
When he said it's at your ten
o'clock eleven o'clock going away, don't
1451
01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:43.760
worry about it. And then after
that he says, Discovery, we're giving
1452
01:54:43.840 --> 01:54:47.239
you an orbiter state vector which is
focused on the mission. Don't talk about
1453
01:54:47.239 --> 01:54:53.399
the object anymore. I researched the
communication systems on the shuttle. They have
1454
01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:58.199
two channels. They have a public
non encrypted channel where they do a lot
1455
01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:00.880
of the communications for the live now
a downfeed, and then they have a
1456
01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:06.640
Department of Defense encrypted channel that's where
the real conversations go on that we never
1457
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:12.239
hear about. I would love it
if someone like John Greenwald could tap into
1458
01:55:12.279 --> 01:55:15.680
that, into the Black Vault and
NASA's radio systems. As I started sharing
1459
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:19.319
the footage, all of a sudden
I got into this debate at NASA.
1460
01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:23.880
I had no idea what they were
going to spring load on me here,
1461
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:29.319
but this is an incredible debate and
not many people know about this. It's
1462
01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:32.920
called the Great water Ball Mystery at
NASA. This is the idea that mass
1463
01:55:32.920 --> 01:55:38.720
could disappear. What we're seeing in
Mexico are UFOs that you can't see with
1464
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:43.439
your eyes, that are detectable on
infrared. How does mass disappear? How
1465
01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:48.119
did the UFO iore disappear in theory. In physics, mass can't disappear.
1466
01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:54.279
We use a number of ways to
detect mass any gas, liquid or solid
1467
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:59.079
object. When sunlight bounces off of
that object, whether it's gas, liquid
1468
01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.520
or solid, you get temperature,
and you can pick up almost anything with
1469
01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:08.239
physicality on infrared. But what I'm
about to share with you is so baffling,
1470
01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:12.880
and so many physicists at NASA cannot
figure this one out. This is
1471
01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:16.439
a mind puzzle that nobody over there
knows the answer to, and they just
1472
01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:20.319
put me in the middle of it
because I was sharing footage of fuzzy balls
1473
01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:25.840
of light that looked similar to what
they were actually detecting over there. In
1474
01:56:25.960 --> 01:56:31.199
nineteen ninety five, an astrophysicist named
doctor Lewis A frank from the University of
1475
01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:36.720
Iowa who was a National Space Act
Award winning astrophysicist, was making discoveries in
1476
01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:43.520
the far and extreme ultraviolet, that's
even further out in higher and wavelength.
1477
01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:47.439
In the near ultraviolet, what appeared
to be fuzzy, little translucent balls of
1478
01:56:47.479 --> 01:56:53.079
water that were coming into Earth,
supposedly from deep space. The balls of
1479
01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:59.159
water were allegedly depositing into our upper
atmosphere and vaporizing and raining down water into
1480
01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:03.000
the atmosphere. The problem was the
objects only showed up in the far and
1481
01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:10.239
extreme ultraviolet and some in the near
ultraviolet. If they were physical balls of
1482
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:14.119
water, you should be able to
see them visually in the visuals, I
1483
01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:17.560
mean from the color red to violet. Nothing showed up on visual cameras at
1484
01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:24.760
all. Then Department of Defense and
NASA cooperated together and went looking for these
1485
01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:31.199
things on infrared. Kobe iras and
ISO three of our Infrared Explorer satellites went
1486
01:57:31.239 --> 01:57:35.920
looking for these things at the request
of Department of Defense. Why was Department
1487
01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:41.680
of Defense so curious about a bunch
of balls of water, Well, they
1488
01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:46.079
went looking for them. They couldn't
find anything on infrared, and because nothing
1489
01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:51.600
showed on infrared, they thought well. Head of Astrochemistry at NASA tells me
1490
01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:56.680
that, well, if it's a
ball of water the size of a small
1491
01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:00.399
house, they're doing thirty five thousand
miles an hour into the Earth. With
1492
01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:04.960
sunlight hitting the ball of water,
you should get a temperature of three hundred
1493
01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:11.560
kelvin and against the cold background of
space, which is minus two hundred and
1494
01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:16.920
seventy three centigrade three hundred kelvin should
be an infrared beacon, an amazingly clear
1495
01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:23.800
picture should show up on infrared.
Nothing. Nothing. These guys are just
1496
01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:28.000
you know, they don't know what
to do. I wrote edgar Mitchell about
1497
01:58:28.039 --> 01:58:31.600
this and he said, well,
if there's nothing in the infrared, then
1498
01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:36.159
there's nothing there. That's the end
of the story. I'm like a prober,
1499
01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:42.199
I'm a details guy. I just
start focusing in deeper and deeper and
1500
01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:45.520
deeper until we get an answer.
First thing I said was, well,
1501
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:50.319
these are balls of water, allegedly, and they're coming in from deep space
1502
01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:56.079
and the size of a small house. I said, wouldn't as they get
1503
01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.800
close to the Sun and near the
third rock from the Sun, start to
1504
01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:04.279
heart up and they would basically vaporize
and disappear. I said, they shouldn't
1505
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:10.279
even be here. And the head
of astrochemistry at NASA, doctor Joseph nota
1506
01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:14.800
Third, agreed with me. He
said, that's one of the problems with
1507
01:59:14.920 --> 01:59:19.000
Frank's hypothesis. How did they get
here? I mean they couldn't survive the
1508
01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:25.039
temperatures in space. Space is freezing. Yes, it would turn to ice,
1509
01:59:25.399 --> 01:59:28.520
but as soon as you get near
the sun, it heats up and
1510
01:59:28.600 --> 01:59:33.600
it melts and it basically disappears.
So that's problem number one. Problem number
1511
01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:39.479
two is even worse. They're finding
a rate of deposition of these objects of
1512
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:45.319
ten to twenty million impactors per year. Imagine a thirty five thousand ton ball
1513
01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:49.560
of water doing thirty ton ball of
water actually doing thirty five thousand miles an
1514
01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:55.600
hour coming into raining like rain drops, into the Earth's atmosphere. Nuth wrote
1515
01:59:55.640 --> 02:00:00.199
me back and said, no satellite
or the Space Shuttle has a chance of
1516
02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.880
surviving days, let alone years if
these were physical balls of water, because
1517
02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:10.199
a thirty five thousand mile an hour
ball of water that big is going to
1518
02:00:10.239 --> 02:00:14.600
destroy every satellite in the sky,
is going to devastate the Space Shuttle.
1519
02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:18.239
And he said, yet no satellite
has ever been struck by one of these
1520
02:00:18.279 --> 02:00:24.119
objects. That's a huge problem for
those guys over the Earth. So I
1521
02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:28.640
proposed that the balls of water were
moving around the Space Shuttle and around the
1522
02:00:28.680 --> 02:00:32.319
satellites, and no way could they
go there. That would mean intelligence,
1523
02:00:32.920 --> 02:00:36.600
No way is NASA going there.
So I proposed it. And then I
1524
02:00:36.640 --> 02:00:41.880
said, well, if there are
balls of water and they are depositing into
1525
02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:45.680
their atmosphere. I said, when
the water, the H, and the
1526
02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:51.560
O under intense solar radiation in the
upper atmosphere separate, hydrogen and oxygen would
1527
02:00:51.560 --> 02:00:58.439
separate and the two oxygen would get
further transmuted into ozone. I said,
1528
02:00:59.039 --> 02:01:01.479
is this proof that there is a
god? I mean, we all know
1529
02:01:01.640 --> 02:01:08.359
our ozone layer is dying. Is
someone standing as balls of water intelligently driven
1530
02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:12.479
to help us heal our ozone layer? And he said, you're right.
1531
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.680
He said it would produce some ozone, but we don't know how much.
1532
02:01:16.199 --> 02:01:20.760
And that would mean that there is
possibly a benevolent force behind these balls of
1533
02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:26.720
water. But the idea that the
balls of water were not hitting any satellites
1534
02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:30.479
means that they're not physical. And
if they're not showing up on any infrared
1535
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:35.560
cameras, these things are not physical. But they're behaving like balls of water.
1536
02:01:36.079 --> 02:01:41.079
Loufrank sent me pages of physics and
data on the balls of water.
1537
02:01:41.600 --> 02:01:45.279
I mean they're behaving like them.
You can't deny his data. But they're
1538
02:01:45.319 --> 02:01:50.880
invisible. You can't see them.
They're only in the ultraviolet. They're not
1539
02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:56.680
in the visible spectrum. They're not
in the infrared. So I'm going to
1540
02:01:56.760 --> 02:02:00.159
kind of leave this subject for now, because that's where I started with.
1541
02:02:00.760 --> 02:02:04.640
I started sending Lewis A. Frank
the tapes, the Martin Stubbs tapes,
1542
02:02:05.159 --> 02:02:11.720
and Frank got into these incredible conversations
with me. He was telling me that
1543
02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:16.920
all his researchers were so fascinated because
they had been looking at still photos from
1544
02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:21.960
the Ultraviolet Explorer satellites, that they
were taking pictures from these water balls.
1545
02:02:23.399 --> 02:02:28.000
They had never seen motion of them
before, so he thought some of the
1546
02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:31.079
He wrote me back and said,
some of the objects on the tapes you're
1547
02:02:31.119 --> 02:02:36.119
sending me are behaving like these supposed
balls of water. Others are not,
1548
02:02:36.840 --> 02:02:41.760
meaning the giant discs you're about to
see on the Tether incident. He could
1549
02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:45.439
not explain those. And when I
went through Frank's data, this man is
1550
02:02:45.560 --> 02:02:50.279
so brilliant that he can tell from
the light curves whether an object you're looking
1551
02:02:50.279 --> 02:02:56.239
at on a certain camera and studying
its wavelengths is a piece of dust as
1552
02:02:56.319 --> 02:03:00.920
NASA proposes, and Jack hasher can
verify this. Everything you're seeing on these
1553
02:03:00.960 --> 02:03:06.720
tapes is either the planet Venus or
little balls of dust and cookie crumbs that
1554
02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:11.680
are floating by the Space Shuttle and
getting close to the lens of the camera,
1555
02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:16.239
and they're moving around. The planet
Venus moves so often and in such
1556
02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:23.479
incredible speeds that I propose that we
don't even need UFOs. We just need
1557
02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:28.039
to go to Venus and we can
go anywhere we want. Those are the
1558
02:03:28.119 --> 02:03:31.319
kind of answers you get over there. In fact, when you watch the
1559
02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:36.359
tether tape in full, you'll hear
them say, oh, that's the planet
1560
02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:42.039
Venus, and you can see it
moving around and go unlike this, I
1561
02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:45.520
want to go there. So the
very fact that Frank could not in the
1562
02:03:45.640 --> 02:03:49.600
end he said he could not explain
some of the phenomena in the tape.
1563
02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:55.159
That is the game you play at
NASA. I never use the word UFO
1564
02:03:55.239 --> 02:04:00.600
over there. All my work is
process of elimination. We went through meteorites,
1565
02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:04.439
shooting stars, debris. How it
behaves. Even the tape you just
1566
02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:10.439
saw. You saw two little things
that look like meteorites and they're speeding along
1567
02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:15.039
right. Well, the one on
the top goes faster than the one on
1568
02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:19.560
the bottom. When you know Newton
and Galileo physics tells us that if you
1569
02:04:19.600 --> 02:04:25.439
don't have internal energy in an object
and you drop it into gravity, everything
1570
02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:30.119
falls at the same speed, regardless
of its mass or weight, or size
1571
02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:33.960
or volume or anything. You'll also
notice in the tether incident, which we're
1572
02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:40.000
about to go into, you'll see
things moving at all different velocities. I've
1573
02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:44.720
often widened an afternoon in a room
with a beam of light coming through the
1574
02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:48.680
window in a dusty room, and
I've watched dust just move around. It
1575
02:04:48.720 --> 02:04:55.479
all moves at the exact same speed, unless each piece has introduced into the
1576
02:04:55.520 --> 02:05:00.479
space with different energies, then they'll
go in different velocities. But everything moves
1577
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:06.119
at different velocities. That's breaking the
natural laws of gravity in physics. That's
1578
02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:12.239
a peculiar fact number one. But
the fact that Frank could not explain the
1579
02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:16.319
phenomenon was so perplexing to him.
He was about to give me this incredible
1580
02:05:16.359 --> 02:05:21.199
statement at a moment that was so
key in my research, and my partner,
1581
02:05:21.439 --> 02:05:27.960
Martin Stubbs, had accidentally shared emails
all my emails at NASA, and
1582
02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:31.840
I have lengthy emails that are all
in my book. Dialogues are so interesting,
1583
02:05:32.359 --> 02:05:39.199
They're so detailed, incredibly open.
Individuals at NASA, the scientists over
1584
02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:43.159
there, believe that a lot of
this stuff needs to be tested. They
1585
02:05:43.159 --> 02:05:46.479
were very open to that idea if
someone would fund it, but the fact
1586
02:05:46.520 --> 02:05:51.239
that Frank could not explain the phenomenon. He went on Fox News San Diego
1587
02:05:51.359 --> 02:05:57.640
and actually stated that that is a
huge statement for NASA to make. But
1588
02:05:57.920 --> 02:06:02.479
before he started getting more open with
me, Russell Kellahanmond Graham Birdsall, who
1589
02:06:02.560 --> 02:06:08.479
released the footage to the world at
Bob Brown's conference, went through my emails
1590
02:06:08.560 --> 02:06:13.239
and started writing letters and they went
public with the footage just before I got
1591
02:06:13.239 --> 02:06:17.039
my final answers, and everyone at
NASA shut down. They wouldn't talk to
1592
02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:23.520
me anymore because they knew I was
doing UFO investigations. They had no idea
1593
02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:28.560
I was doing UFO investigations. They
thought I was doing process of elimination,
1594
02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:34.359
which is real science, and I
was meteorites I learned quickly from Joseph Nata
1595
02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:40.760
three. Also, unless they're massive, they basically disintegrate in a matter of
1596
02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:45.439
seconds or a very small distance in
kilometers or miles, They burn up.
1597
02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:50.640
The only way comments that our meteorites
streak for very long periods of time is
1598
02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:56.359
if they're huge. Now, all
throughout these NASA tapes that I've looked from
1599
02:06:56.399 --> 02:07:00.920
the stubs footage, you'll see balls
of light that just keep going and going
1600
02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:04.479
and going all the way around the
other side of the planet. Now,
1601
02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:09.600
if they were meteorites, and that's
what you'll hear in the commentary on the
1602
02:07:09.680 --> 02:07:14.079
NASA tape, they should have been
massive because they didn't burn up, and
1603
02:07:14.119 --> 02:07:18.680
that means they would have eventually impacted
with the Earth and created massive craters on
1604
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:24.319
the Earth. We would have level
extinction events going on on the Earth almost
1605
02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:28.560
every day. According to what this
footage is showing. If these are actual
1606
02:07:28.600 --> 02:07:33.359
meteorites, they could not possibly be
meteorites because you don't see these things extinguished.
1607
02:07:33.760 --> 02:07:38.359
They keep going and going and going, and they just don't die.
1608
02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:43.159
So, rather than go into this
huge body of footage tonight, we're just
1609
02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:46.640
going to go into SDS seventy five, the Tether incident, and we're going
1610
02:07:46.680 --> 02:07:51.359
to break it down because inside of
this incident is a signature so clear,
1611
02:07:51.840 --> 02:07:57.680
so incredibly clear, on their propulsion
systems, how they're able to convert mass
1612
02:07:57.720 --> 02:08:01.640
into light. I think it's so
stunning, and it's really I mean,
1613
02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:05.960
this is where evidence gets very detailed. This is where in a court of
1614
02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:11.079
law this stuff gets so finely detailed. It raises so many questions, so
1615
02:08:11.199 --> 02:08:16.920
many arguments are created over by what
you're about to see. This is where
1616
02:08:16.960 --> 02:08:20.840
the evidence comes in. You're going
to see a correlation here that is undeniable
1617
02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:26.359
on how these systems work. So
the first thing we're going to do is
1618
02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:28.600
run the next part of the tape
and we're just going to look at the
1619
02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:35.720
tether incident, justin raw. Remember
this is in the ultraviolet, possibly infrared.
1620
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:39.239
The astronauts may not have seen this
to the naked eye, and these
1621
02:08:39.279 --> 02:08:45.520
disks as they pass behind the twelve
mile length of the tether could measure between
1622
02:08:45.600 --> 02:08:50.279
two and three miles in diameter,
making them independent stay size craft of light.
1623
02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:56.560
Also, notice the black holes in
the center and what Peter Davenport showed
1624
02:08:56.640 --> 02:09:00.520
us today of the eyewitness testimony of
the dark mass in the scent of the
1625
02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:05.760
Transnational disc copy and the satellite now
seventy seven nautical miles apart. Again,
1626
02:09:05.800 --> 02:09:11.079
that call reporting that the crew can
see the tether and see the satellite.
1627
02:09:11.159 --> 02:09:16.319
That's beautiful, all different velocities.
This view is showing a he's stunned.
1628
02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:22.960
Look at those different velocities on those
things. The satellite that's not dust again,
1629
02:09:24.520 --> 02:09:30.079
just moving into sunrise eighty one nautical
miles now from Columbia. Is the
1630
02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:35.359
satellite coming out, No, it's
beginning to be a little bit Franklin.
1631
02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:39.039
We see a long line, couple
of star like things, and a lot
1632
02:09:39.079 --> 02:09:43.680
of things swimming in the foreground.
Can you describe what you're seeing while the
1633
02:09:43.760 --> 02:09:48.760
long line is high? It's all
there, and there's a little bit of
1634
02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:52.840
debris that kind of flies with us. And it's a little bit about this
1635
02:09:52.000 --> 02:09:56.199
sound at such a low angle.
This is this long stray light and is
1636
02:09:56.199 --> 02:10:01.359
getting washed out quickly. But what
is tr to do a quick job here?
1637
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:05.920
Just on the camera. Copy that
in that description by the crew.
1638
02:10:05.319 --> 02:10:11.880
This is the tether in the satellite
with twelve approximately twelve miles of teather still
1639
02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:16.039
attached to it. Notice the pulsing
Columbia in the satellite to now just passing
1640
02:10:16.119 --> 02:10:20.920
over the west coast of northern Africa. The two spacecraft now ninety nine of
1641
02:10:22.000 --> 02:10:28.239
Quins and Cripper One's not the controllers
for the satellite did have communications with it
1642
02:10:28.560 --> 02:10:33.199
during the close pass between Colombia and
the satellite. Look at how long that
1643
02:10:33.279 --> 02:10:37.640
zoom was. Those things are far
away from the camera. That was a
1644
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:41.720
much better view a lot more contrast
visible. And how wide does that tether
1645
02:10:41.800 --> 02:10:46.880
appear to be? It seems to
resemble a much wider strand than we'd expect.
1646
02:10:48.319 --> 02:10:52.840
Can you describe which way the satellite
is visible on that strand? This
1647
02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:58.439
is nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety
six, February March, early March.
1648
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:05.760
This satellite to now one hundred knot
of quins. I'll leave completely. I'll
1649
02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:09.600
leave you at the middle of the
using the port extent of the seven.
1650
02:11:09.159 --> 02:11:15.479
My pleasure just to focus back on
getting better than this. Okay, Claudia,
1651
02:11:15.920 --> 02:11:18.800
thank you. In the summer of
nineteen ninety nine, I met with
1652
02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:24.399
Martin Stubbs, the program manager of
the cable TV station who was offered over
1653
02:11:24.520 --> 02:11:30.880
four hundred hours of NASA's live broadcast. He gave me some videotape on a
1654
02:11:30.920 --> 02:11:35.760
new incident that happened in February of
nineteen ninety six on Space Shuttle mission STS
1655
02:11:37.079 --> 02:11:41.600
seventy five, what was called the
tether incident. What you just saw on
1656
02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:46.119
the videotape showed a twelve mile long
satellite, a satellite attached to a twelve
1657
02:11:46.159 --> 02:11:52.000
mile long tether, which is like
a conductor cable. It was very very
1658
02:11:52.039 --> 02:11:56.439
thin one tenth of a centimeter in
thickness cable that was used to conduct electricity
1659
02:11:56.479 --> 02:12:01.720
in the Earth's ionosphere. As we
saw, earth space is supercharged with high
1660
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:07.239
energy particles. NASA is trying to
take advantage of these particles to see if
1661
02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:11.560
they could build up a charge on
the tether and actually see a gain or
1662
02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:16.880
produce some electricity. They charged the
tether with some electricity, but then an
1663
02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:22.840
overload of highly charged particles flooded the
tether and produced so much electricity it snapped.
1664
02:12:24.319 --> 02:12:28.039
On February twenty fifth, at about
seven thirty PM, the tether broke
1665
02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:33.319
away from the shuttle Columbia and drifted
about seventy seven miles away. So the
1666
02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:39.479
scene that you just saw actually starts
at about seventy seven miles away. The
1667
02:12:39.520 --> 02:12:43.119
camera pans down. We see a
long line which is twelve miles long of
1668
02:12:43.159 --> 02:12:48.560
tether, a small satellite attached to
the end, and then a swarm of
1669
02:12:48.640 --> 02:12:52.880
little objects, little balls of light, just moving in from all different directions
1670
02:12:52.880 --> 02:12:58.520
and different velocities and different speeds.
Then the camera is actually zoom in and
1671
02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:03.159
we we actually give it a close
look at what we're seeing here. It's
1672
02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:07.840
astounding. We see up here in
the right hand corner we see a very
1673
02:13:07.960 --> 02:13:13.520
large disc clearly going behind the tether
and we can actually see little black dots
1674
02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:18.479
racing around, which is just some
sort of a magnetic field effect, and
1675
02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:24.079
coming through the middle we see another
very large disc moving clearly behind the tether.
1676
02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:28.560
The light from the tether shines in
front of the background object, which
1677
02:13:28.600 --> 02:13:31.319
is the UFO. If we use
this piece of wood as an example,
1678
02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:35.840
we can see what a disc looks
like when it's passing behind a foreground object.
1679
02:13:37.279 --> 02:13:41.960
It's really very quite simple. So
if the disc was passing in front
1680
02:13:41.960 --> 02:13:45.600
of the tether, it would look
something like this, and it doesn't look
1681
02:13:45.680 --> 02:13:48.520
like that. When we look in
the middle and we see this large disc
1682
02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:52.640
passing through the middle, we can
see again it's passing behind the tether.
1683
02:13:54.199 --> 02:13:58.199
If this was the tether and this
was the UFO, we can clearly see
1684
02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:01.199
it's going behind. If it was
going in front, it would look something
1685
02:14:01.319 --> 02:14:05.319
like this. It doesn't look like
that. So, because we know the
1686
02:14:05.359 --> 02:14:11.000
shuttle is at least seventy seven miles
away and drifting further away from the object
1687
02:14:11.239 --> 02:14:16.239
from the tether, and we know
the objects are going behind the tether,
1688
02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.600
we can therefore use the twelve mile
length of the tether as a relative measuring
1689
02:14:20.720 --> 02:14:26.760
rod for actually making measurements of the
minimum diameter of seventy's disc. And according
1690
02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:31.640
to my calculations against the twelve mile
length of the tether, this disc passing
1691
02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:37.760
through the top section here measures a
minimum of two to three miles in diameter.
1692
02:14:37.279 --> 02:14:41.399
That's assuming it's right up next to
the back of the tether. If
1693
02:14:41.399 --> 02:14:46.439
it's actually farther behind the tether than
I think, then the disc could be
1694
02:14:46.600 --> 02:14:50.479
much much larger. The further it
gets behind it relative to the distance of
1695
02:14:50.520 --> 02:14:56.760
the tether, the larger it actually
is in reality in comparison to measuring against
1696
02:14:56.760 --> 02:15:01.399
the tether. Again, here this
disk going through the middle here, I
1697
02:15:01.520 --> 02:15:05.239
estimate it to be between two and
three miles in diameter. If a UFO
1698
02:15:05.399 --> 02:15:09.920
were flying over the city of Los
Angeles in the downtown core or New York
1699
02:15:11.279 --> 02:15:15.479
and it was two to three miles
wide in diameter, it would black out
1700
02:15:15.520 --> 02:15:20.399
the entire sky. It would be
an independent state size craft that would literally
1701
02:15:20.479 --> 02:15:24.840
cause massive panic and massive alarm,
not a couple miles apart. Can you
1702
02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:31.680
start the tether please in that color? Okay, that's just some very simple
1703
02:15:31.760 --> 02:15:35.880
introductory observations. The size of the
objects. None of them ever hit each
1704
02:15:35.920 --> 02:15:41.520
other. You think if they were, you know, cookie crumbs or crackers
1705
02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:45.640
from the astronauts, the lines that
things would bounce into each other. And
1706
02:15:45.800 --> 02:15:50.079
I've used cameras for over twenty five
years professionally, I also use video.
1707
02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:54.880
And you heard Claude Nikol here,
the astronaut, saying, I'm trying to
1708
02:15:54.920 --> 02:16:00.840
adjust the focus. I can't get
any better than that. When CCD video
1709
02:16:00.960 --> 02:16:05.439
cameras are in focus, their depth
of field of focus is so vast that
1710
02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:09.960
and I've done this test on my
own cameras. Even when you watch these
1711
02:16:09.960 --> 02:16:13.800
football games, you can see when
it's raining, the little drops of water
1712
02:16:13.199 --> 02:16:18.199
on the lens of the camera,
on the filter. Well, the players
1713
02:16:18.239 --> 02:16:22.760
in the background are in focus.
That's called depth of field of focus.
1714
02:16:22.279 --> 02:16:28.439
That's how deep your focus field is. And normal thirty five millimeter cameras.
1715
02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:33.559
When f stops or apertures of cameras
open up, the depth of field shrinks,
1716
02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:39.280
meaning anything that goes outside of that
depth of field of focus could be
1717
02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:43.239
an out of focus object. Many
people at NASA contend that what you're seeing
1718
02:16:43.559 --> 02:16:48.600
everything is just out of focus.
Orbs called airy Dix. Well, once
1719
02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:54.479
CCD cameras are in focus, stuff
doesn't go out of focus. And if
1720
02:16:54.520 --> 02:16:58.760
Claude Nikole, he said, I
can't adjust the focus any better than that.
1721
02:16:58.319 --> 02:17:03.360
Well, if he can't adjust the
focus on a camera, it shouldn't
1722
02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:07.399
be up there because it's so easy. It's the easiest thing in the world
1723
02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:13.319
to do. The camera is in
focus. I have shots other shots that
1724
02:17:13.399 --> 02:17:18.000
I can't go into right now because
there's so much footage. Well, you'll
1725
02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:20.520
see a smudge mark on the window
pane of the shuttle, and you've got
1726
02:17:20.520 --> 02:17:26.639
your very high tech cameras. I
actually know the model number in this camera.
1727
02:17:26.159 --> 02:17:31.559
I know who makes the sensors to
look into the ultraviolet. And you'll
1728
02:17:31.559 --> 02:17:35.239
see a smudge mark on the window
pane in focus. Well, the Earth
1729
02:17:35.360 --> 02:17:41.399
three hundred miles below is simultaneously in
focus. That's your established depth of field.
1730
02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:46.840
That means, once you've established your
depth of field on the camera,
1731
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:52.319
nothing passing in between those two points
can possibly be out of focus. It's
1732
02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:58.280
impossible, it cannot happen. And
yet with that smudge mark in focus on
1733
02:17:58.319 --> 02:18:01.639
the window pane, you'll see I
see these same translucent discs with a black
1734
02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:05.399
hole in the center going by,
and once a segment you saw on the
1735
02:18:05.440 --> 02:18:11.280
Fox News, you'll actually see them
gathering in a circle. They fly into
1736
02:18:11.319 --> 02:18:16.479
formation in a circle, stop and
then they light up. Stop, light
1737
02:18:16.600 --> 02:18:20.200
up, and then one flies into
the center, stops and lights up.
1738
02:18:20.680 --> 02:18:24.040
I don't know how dust can do
that. I mean, there's just no
1739
02:18:24.120 --> 02:18:28.600
way in the world that NASA can
tell me. Well, you know,
1740
02:18:28.159 --> 02:18:33.000
odds are one in ten that dust
that day just happened and decided to get
1741
02:18:33.040 --> 02:18:37.799
together and have lunch in a big
circle. Just no way. Those are
1742
02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:41.639
the kind of answers you get from
the low end people. The public people
1743
02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:46.959
James overg will tell you everything is
an illusion. But when you get into
1744
02:18:48.000 --> 02:18:52.399
their physicists like Lou Frank I play
cat and mouse with these guys. They
1745
02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:58.079
can't trick me. I know their
language, I know the cameras, and
1746
02:18:58.120 --> 02:19:01.239
they don't try to trick me either. I'd rather hear them say we don't
1747
02:19:01.280 --> 02:19:05.520
know than try to tell me it's
swamp gas. It's so much more intelligent
1748
02:19:05.600 --> 02:19:09.920
to say we don't know. The
same with Mexico. Don't tell us from
1749
02:19:09.959 --> 02:19:16.520
our best universities. Canada said it
was a bunch of balloons, Mexico said,
1750
02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:20.040
ball whiting and swamp gas. Ball
whiting goes like this and it's gone.
1751
02:19:20.600 --> 02:19:26.520
You don't get eleven UFOs showing up
in the infrared surrounding a craft for
1752
02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:31.280
over half an hour if it's swamp
gas. Those are the kind of answers
1753
02:19:31.319 --> 02:19:35.399
they give us. But if you
took that same footage to someone like Lou
1754
02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:41.319
Frank, you know Mexico, you'll
get away different answer, far more intelligent
1755
02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:45.559
answer. But where we're going next
is let's go back to the theory.
1756
02:19:46.120 --> 02:19:50.479
We know that mass can't attain the
speed of light. We know that's cramming
1757
02:19:50.520 --> 02:19:54.159
your head against the wall. You'll
never do it. The energy levels are
1758
02:19:54.280 --> 02:20:01.159
ridiculous. Wormholes suddenly become possible if
you can reduce them. Of your object
1759
02:20:01.280 --> 02:20:05.520
or spacecraft which you're going to move
through the wormhole is zero mass. They
1760
02:20:05.559 --> 02:20:11.319
are feasible only at zero mass.
To me, the whole universe gets interesting
1761
02:20:11.360 --> 02:20:18.200
at zero. I actually don't believe
in absolute zeros. I don't believe in
1762
02:20:18.280 --> 02:20:22.760
absolute zeros anywhere in physics. And
I'm going to show you why on the
1763
02:20:22.840 --> 02:20:26.600
chalkboard here. Why how do you
turn mass into light? You have to
1764
02:20:26.680 --> 02:20:31.399
actually look in quantum models, which
means going into the size of the atom
1765
02:20:31.920 --> 02:20:37.680
and smaller. That's what quantum means
to find out. One of the first
1766
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:43.239
things that happens in atoms that is
actually very similar the idea of mass disappearing
1767
02:20:43.600 --> 02:20:48.000
is what's known as the quantum leap
in a simple atom. The most simple
1768
02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:52.600
atom we can look at is the
hydrogen atom. It's got one proton and
1769
02:20:52.760 --> 02:21:00.079
one electron. Proton spins positive,
electron spins negative. The electron is the
1770
02:21:00.120 --> 02:21:03.559
lowest mass particle we know of,
and there's a moment where it disappears in
1771
02:21:03.639 --> 02:21:09.440
physics that no one can explain.
It's called the quantum leap. When an
1772
02:21:09.479 --> 02:21:15.760
electron, electrons travel in shells,
which are actually radial distances from the center
1773
02:21:15.799 --> 02:21:20.719
of the atom and the orbit around
the atom like crazy like this, well,
1774
02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:24.719
and no one can predict their orbits
by the way, you know which
1775
02:21:24.719 --> 02:21:28.440
way they're going to turn. They
spin around and circle. Well, when
1776
02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:33.639
an electron decides to jump into a
closer orbit or radius, it's called another
1777
02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:39.920
shell. All of a sudden it
disappears, and then it reappears over here
1778
02:21:39.959 --> 02:21:43.399
somewhere. They don't know where it
went. It disappeared, And this is
1779
02:21:43.479 --> 02:21:48.799
something that has mass, and then
it reappears over here and they know where
1780
02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:52.319
it is. They didn't see it
pass through the intervening space. All they
1781
02:21:52.360 --> 02:21:56.799
know is they couldn't find it,
and then there it was. That is
1782
02:21:56.840 --> 02:22:01.680
the first clue that it's feasible for
mass to disappear. Why it disappeared is
1783
02:22:01.719 --> 02:22:05.600
going to take me all night,
So we're going to skip by that.
1784
02:22:05.600 --> 02:22:09.959
That's just the first clue that it's
possible. And I also showed you the
1785
02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:15.440
water ball mystery at NASA, which
no one has over their satisfies with it.
1786
02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:18.520
I mean, it's a war over
there. They shoot each other over
1787
02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:22.840
the subject. They think lou Frank
is crazy. Now, in fact,
1788
02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:28.159
when I went on the radio,
James Auberick says, well, everyone says
1789
02:22:28.239 --> 02:22:33.159
lou Frank is crazy. Well,
because he's seeing water balls that show up
1790
02:22:33.200 --> 02:22:39.079
on actual film points, he's crazy. I mean, that's the kind of
1791
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:43.559
answer you get out of James Auberick. But let's look. There was a
1792
02:22:43.600 --> 02:22:48.760
young scientist, a young physicist student
of Einstein's, who tried to come to
1793
02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:54.479
Einstein with the idea of merging electromagnetism
and gravity together in one theory. No
1794
02:22:54.559 --> 02:23:00.159
one today has found the graviton.
We know what gravity is, but we
1795
02:23:00.200 --> 02:23:05.120
don't know the particle. We don't
understand it. Glenn Seborg once told me
1796
02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:11.000
that. And Seborg chaired the Atomic
Energy Commission under Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon.
1797
02:23:11.319 --> 02:23:16.000
For those of you who don't know, he's a discoverer of plutonium,
1798
02:23:16.520 --> 02:23:20.559
authorized all the nuclear testing in Nevada. He told me, if anyone could
1799
02:23:20.600 --> 02:23:26.719
build a gravity generator, you would
have something far beyond nuclear fusion. And
1800
02:23:26.840 --> 02:23:31.200
he said, and I don't believe
anyone is doing anything like that yet.
1801
02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:35.799
Those are the words of Glenn Seborg. There is a race to find the
1802
02:23:35.799 --> 02:23:41.440
graviton, the missing particle, and
I believe to truly understand anti gravity,
1803
02:23:41.799 --> 02:23:46.760
you have to understand the graviton where
it is. One of the problems in
1804
02:23:46.799 --> 02:23:52.120
physics today I found right away is
that we look at everything in the universe
1805
02:23:52.319 --> 02:23:58.959
is in wave particle relationships. Everything
is in particles and waves. We're on
1806
02:23:58.040 --> 02:24:03.319
a giant particle called Earth right now
spinning around the Sun. That's a particle
1807
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in a wave relationship, and that
whole Solar system of particles and waves is
1808
02:24:09.840 --> 02:24:16.280
actually spinning around the galactic core every
two hundred and fifty million years. Those
1809
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are giant waves, and then when
you get down into the atom, you
1810
02:24:20.840 --> 02:24:26.719
see the same thing. Particle proton
spinning in a wave relationship, electron particles
1811
02:24:26.760 --> 02:24:33.079
spinning in a wave relationship, and
particle wave relationships have frequency, meaning how
1812
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frequently they oscillate per second. We
measure oscillations in the form of hurts Hertzian
1813
02:24:39.479 --> 02:24:46.760
waves. We normally look at wave
particle relationships in two spatial dimensions and three
1814
02:24:46.840 --> 02:24:52.479
actual dimensions, which is we see
ascilloscopes. We see the wave bobbling up
1815
02:24:52.559 --> 02:24:56.479
and down like this, And I
say, this is a very big mistake.
1816
02:24:56.079 --> 02:25:00.799
This is how we look at waves. That's a flat sheet of paper.
1817
02:25:01.200 --> 02:25:05.000
Einstein's four dimensions are up and down, vertical, horizontal, and the
1818
02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:11.319
third is depth and the fourth is
time. Those are his four dimensions that
1819
02:25:11.360 --> 02:25:13.879
we have to work with. So
why in the world will we look at
1820
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wave particle relationships on only three of
them up and down and the third is
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02:25:20.920 --> 02:25:26.000
time. We're not looking at the
other dimension of depth. I believe because
1822
02:25:26.079 --> 02:25:30.920
we're doing this we are missing everything
in physics. There are so many things
1823
02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:35.600
we can solve if we look at
wave particle relationships in all four dimensions.
1824
02:25:35.120 --> 02:25:39.719
We measure waves as they peak per
second. Now this is very important.
1825
02:25:41.120 --> 02:25:45.120
I'm going to make this simple for
you to understand how we convert mass into
1826
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white because the way we do it
is we look at the difference between light
1827
02:25:48.479 --> 02:25:54.520
waves and how they behave, and
then we look at the wave particle relationships
1828
02:25:54.520 --> 02:25:58.360
of mass ordinary matter, and then
we try to do a study and find
1829
02:25:58.399 --> 02:26:03.520
out how we're going to get from
mass to white. Well, very quickly
1830
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I learned that mass has a frequency
apparently of zero, and right away,
1831
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as soon as I hear zero,
I just can't accept it. I don't
1832
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believe in absolute zeros, don't believe
it exists. But in order to merge
1833
02:26:18.719 --> 02:26:24.639
electromagnetism and gravity into a single theory, which has never been done, Einstein
1834
02:26:24.680 --> 02:26:28.920
looked at the paper from his student. He rejected it because he didn't see
1835
02:26:28.920 --> 02:26:31.319
the evidence on how you would do
it. You would have to be able
1836
02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:35.520
to prove that mass has frequency,
it has a tiny charge on it.
1837
02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.600
That's the first thing you have to
do. So we're going to look at
1838
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the core atom. This is really
simple to understand how an atom works and
1839
02:26:45.600 --> 02:26:50.000
try to find it. And I
believe I'm being very facetious here that I
1840
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may have found it. Very recently. I ran into a physicist at UCLA
1841
02:26:54.920 --> 02:27:00.000
professor of physics, James Roorsboro in
the lab, and when I told him
1842
02:27:00.159 --> 02:27:03.319
this, he wants to have one
trick me to find out if there's something
1843
02:27:03.879 --> 02:27:09.239
really here. But this is the
first thing you need to do. Mass
1844
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is low in frequency. Light is
very high in frequency. So in theory,
1845
02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:16.840
if you're going to go from mass
to light, you have to change
1846
02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:22.840
the frequency of mass from its ultra
low wave state to a very high wave
1847
02:27:22.879 --> 02:27:26.239
state. Now, the reason mass
is zero, the initial answer you get
1848
02:27:26.280 --> 02:27:33.840
in quantum physics is because the electron, which spins negative which means counterclockwise,
1849
02:27:33.239 --> 02:27:39.239
and the proton cancel each other out. If two people are pulling on a
1850
02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:45.040
rope in opposite directions at the same
force, the overall force of momentum is
1851
02:27:45.159 --> 02:27:50.600
zero. But it actually goes deeper
than that. Very recently, and in
1852
02:27:50.639 --> 02:27:54.920
relative terms, recently, we found
that every particle has an antiparticle. So
1853
02:27:56.120 --> 02:28:01.600
while the electron spins negative, it
also has a pository that spins a positive
1854
02:28:01.639 --> 02:28:07.040
electron that spins the other way,
and same with the proton. The proton
1855
02:28:07.120 --> 02:28:11.479
spins positive and the antiproton spins the
other way. Well, if you put
1856
02:28:11.479 --> 02:28:16.360
this on a full four dimensional model
instead of just a two D model three
1857
02:28:16.479 --> 02:28:22.520
D model, you'll see very quickly
that if the radial distance from the center
1858
02:28:22.639 --> 02:28:26.879
of the atom to the electron of
the electron and the anti electron were the
1859
02:28:26.920 --> 02:28:33.079
exact same radius, what would happen
to them in one orbit? They would
1860
02:28:33.159 --> 02:28:37.319
collide, they would annihilate, they
would not exist. We wouldn't be here
1861
02:28:37.360 --> 02:28:41.799
in this room right now if matter
were actually working like this, and it
1862
02:28:41.879 --> 02:28:46.719
isn't. It could not possibly be
doing this. The only answer, and
1863
02:28:46.959 --> 02:28:52.760
I've ran so many equations on this
through my head, simple equations, is
1864
02:28:52.840 --> 02:28:56.159
one, well, what if they're
both you know, if I'm standing in
1865
02:28:56.200 --> 02:29:00.879
the middle of the atom, they're
both like oft the side like this.
1866
02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:05.159
If they were off to the side
like this, the atom would be wobbling.
1867
02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:09.920
It wouldn't be stable. And then
I thought, well, what if
1868
02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:13.879
they bypassed each other. They're on
the same radial distance, and when they
1869
02:29:13.920 --> 02:29:18.239
crossed here they just kind of curved
around each other. That would make the
1870
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atom wobble as well. It would
be very unstable. The only possible thing
1871
02:29:24.440 --> 02:29:28.559
that I could come up with,
and probably one of the reasons why the
1872
02:29:28.600 --> 02:29:33.639
antimatter is near invisible to physicists today. It's not totally invisible, but it
1873
02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:39.760
is. It is that one is
slightly closer, ever so slightly closer than
1874
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the other in radial distance. And
if one of them is slightly closer and
1875
02:29:45.000 --> 02:29:48.639
they're both traveling the same speed,
the one closer in is going to have
1876
02:29:48.719 --> 02:29:54.159
a higher frequency than the one further
out, meaning how frequently it will oscillate
1877
02:29:54.239 --> 02:29:58.159
around the track. If they're both
spinning at the same speed per second,
1878
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:03.440
one closer in will be slightly faster
in frequency than the one further out.
1879
02:30:03.840 --> 02:30:09.319
And that means there's a differential or
left over, tiny charge in between the
1880
02:30:09.360 --> 02:30:16.120
two tiny tiny differential force, and
that differential force would also have to encounter
1881
02:30:16.200 --> 02:30:20.799
the proton and antiproton when they cross
over each other. They have also a
1882
02:30:20.840 --> 02:30:26.319
differential left over charge, and those
two differential charges would have to interact and
1883
02:30:26.399 --> 02:30:31.079
here somewhere, and you'd have a
very ultra weak force charge on the atom.
1884
02:30:31.559 --> 02:30:35.520
It's not a zero like they think
it is. It's a tiny number.
1885
02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:41.520
And in physics and all the forces
of physics, gravity is called the
1886
02:30:41.520 --> 02:30:46.559
weak force because this pan only falls
to the Earth at about one hundred and
1887
02:30:46.600 --> 02:30:50.440
twenty miles an hour down here versus
the speed of whight, which is six
1888
02:30:50.559 --> 02:30:56.479
hundred and seventy million miles an hour. Very weak force. But if you
1889
02:30:56.559 --> 02:31:01.120
can prove and you can find where
the number is in theory, you have
1890
02:31:01.200 --> 02:31:05.000
the ability to build a wave generator
that phase synchronizes with that wave. Now,
1891
02:31:05.040 --> 02:31:09.079
once I can phase synchronize with that
wave, I can raise its frequency.
1892
02:31:09.559 --> 02:31:13.079
I can start going up. So
the first thing I noticed in the
1893
02:31:13.120 --> 02:31:18.159
tether incident was that all these UFOs
were strobing with waves, and I was
1894
02:31:18.399 --> 02:31:22.920
very curious to look at the waves
frame by frame to slow it down.
1895
02:31:22.479 --> 02:31:28.000
So we're going to run the tape
again on the tether incident here and just
1896
02:31:28.159 --> 02:31:31.079
notice, I mean, you'll see
the black dots spinning here, You'll see
1897
02:31:31.079 --> 02:31:37.360
this thing strobing. You'll see some
of them strobing very fast. We're actually
1898
02:31:37.399 --> 02:31:41.879
going to go and zoom in on
those little guys on those waves, because
1899
02:31:41.920 --> 02:31:45.959
they're going to tell us. Because
in theory, if I'm right, you
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02:31:46.040 --> 02:31:50.360
have to go from low frequency mass
to high frequency to get to white.
1901
02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:54.600
And if I'm right, we're going
to fall onto An experiment done by Canadian
1902
02:31:54.680 --> 02:32:01.239
scientist John Hutchinson who strokes steel mass
with those same waves low, medium,
1903
02:32:01.319 --> 02:32:05.120
and high. He makes the steps, and we're going to find out what
1904
02:32:05.239 --> 02:32:09.920
happens to the cannonball. It's going
to solve the riddle in the UFO phenomena.
1905
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So let's run the tape for a
while. Here, we're going to
1906
02:32:13.600 --> 02:32:18.319
go through some tape. Let's see
the tether and let's see the satellite.
1907
02:32:18.399 --> 02:32:24.479
It's beautiful. This view I'm showing
is that snow the satellite. I think
1908
02:32:24.520 --> 02:32:31.799
it was done again, just moving
into sunrise eighty one nautical miles now from
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02:32:31.799 --> 02:32:37.079
Columbia. The reason the tether appears
so wide, according to the NASA report,
1910
02:32:37.559 --> 02:32:41.719
is the satellite at the end of
it nitrogen fuel tank was emptied,
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02:32:41.799 --> 02:32:46.239
and they don't know how all the
nitrogen gas gathered around the electrostatic field around
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02:32:46.280 --> 02:32:52.479
the tether and became ionized. And
two theories and that the sunlight bounced off
1913
02:32:52.559 --> 02:32:58.399
of the electrostatic field. So it's
probably a nearly three quarter mile wide field
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that you're seeing around the tether.
It's so tiny, so thin, you
1915
02:33:03.600 --> 02:33:09.200
can barely see it. So what
are the studies of the gas electrostatic field
1916
02:33:09.239 --> 02:33:13.479
around the tether? Franklin, we
see a long line, a couple of
1917
02:33:13.559 --> 02:33:18.159
starlike things, and a lot of
things swimming in the foreground. Can you
1918
02:33:18.239 --> 02:33:22.920
describe what you're seeing? Well,
the long line is the tether, and
1919
02:33:22.079 --> 02:33:26.079
there's a little bit of debris that
kind of flies with us, and it's
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02:33:26.120 --> 02:33:31.120
eliminated by the sun at such low
angle. This is this long straight light
1921
02:33:31.280 --> 02:33:35.879
and is getting washed out quickly,
but the quad is trying to do a
1922
02:33:35.920 --> 02:33:39.879
quick job here. Just in the
camera copy that in that description by the
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02:33:39.920 --> 02:33:46.479
crew. This is the tether in
the satellite with twelve approximately twelve miles of
1924
02:33:46.479 --> 02:33:50.719
tether still attached to it. Columbia
in the satellite now just passing over the
1925
02:33:50.719 --> 02:33:56.200
west coast of northern Africa. The
two spacecraft now ninety nautical miles apart.
1926
02:33:56.639 --> 02:34:03.639
Controllers for the satellite did have communications
with it during the close pass between Colombia
1927
02:34:03.680 --> 02:34:07.639
and the satellite Columbia Houston. That's
a much better view, a lot more
1928
02:34:07.719 --> 02:34:13.680
contrast visible. And how why does
that tether appear to be It seems to
1929
02:34:13.680 --> 02:34:18.879
resemble a much wider strand than we
did expect. Can you describe which way
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02:34:18.920 --> 02:34:24.159
the satellite is visible on that strand? The satellite is now one hundred nautical
1931
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miles, I'm going to call you
completely at the room. Then you're using
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a pretty extent of the tether.
My pleasure just to focus back on getting
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better than that Oka Klude. Thank
you. Let us know in the next
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video by convincing its opponents making them
see the light, but rather because its
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02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:50.559
opponents eventually die and a new generation
grows up that is familiar with it,
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I just like the godfather of quantum
physics. Why was this investigation on NASA
1937
02:34:56.639 --> 02:35:03.000
UFO's moving into quantum physics Because without
some basic understanding of magnetism, gravity,
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02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:09.079
and life integrated into quantum ideas,
the next observations about the UFOs would be
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02:35:09.159 --> 02:35:15.959
impossible to comprehend. We were about
to study phenomena that only quantum physics could
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02:35:16.040 --> 02:35:20.360
explain. In the night of January
tenth, two thousand, a giant new
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02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:26.079
theory in quantum physics exploded into my
mind with crystal clarity. The theory would
1942
02:35:26.120 --> 02:35:33.520
prove that gravity is grading in frequencies, that eventually, at higher frequencies would
1943
02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:37.879
go far beyond light speed, and
that those higher frequencies of gravity would conquer
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02:35:37.920 --> 02:35:43.440
the vast diameter of our own galaxy
one hundred thousand light years in one second
1945
02:35:43.600 --> 02:35:48.040
and then in zero time. Eventually, the theory would show how the highest
1946
02:35:48.079 --> 02:35:54.479
frequencies of gravity could conquer the distance
of the entire universe in zero time.
1947
02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:58.920
Best gravity at this highest frequency would
be the only force that is truly beyond
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02:36:00.200 --> 02:36:03.239
space and time. So now we're
going to look at phase two of the
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02:36:03.280 --> 02:36:07.959
galaxy. This is my four dimensional
wave clock, and I'm just kind of
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02:36:09.000 --> 02:36:13.399
giving you a segmentation to look at
it here. It's a very complicated model,
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02:36:13.719 --> 02:36:16.280
but if you don't understand what I'm
talking about, just look at it
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visually, because when we look at
the waves on the UFOs frequency will stunt
1953
02:36:22.680 --> 02:36:28.879
for magnetism or gravity, gravity,
force, space and timeline broke the speed
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02:36:28.879 --> 02:36:33.920
of light. I never changed the
speed of light on I'm actually working on
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02:36:33.120 --> 02:36:37.799
breaking the speed of light in these
spirals and the way I did it.
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02:36:37.159 --> 02:36:43.280
Two years later, a physicist named
John mccuageo, one of our major universities,
1957
02:36:43.760 --> 02:36:48.319
who served in all American lives,
broke the speed of light exactly to
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02:36:48.440 --> 02:36:52.920
at the way I have seen it, and it was represented by this one
1959
02:36:52.319 --> 02:36:56.760
and the right of two years earlier
than this, it has been gotten near
1960
02:36:56.840 --> 02:37:01.760
to the center of the clock and
we got to the twelve count position,
1961
02:37:01.280 --> 02:37:07.280
that force became so powerful and there
was so much energy in it that it
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02:37:07.360 --> 02:37:11.360
started to affect mass and mass.
Therefore, as it came in contact with
1963
02:37:11.440 --> 02:37:16.799
these greater charges of energy started to
accelerate. So now we're going to go
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02:37:16.879 --> 02:37:22.639
another twelve counts up to twenty four
and see what happens. I've already drawn
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02:37:22.719 --> 02:37:26.799
the first line, the thirteen line, and we can see what's happening there.
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02:37:26.239 --> 02:37:31.360
This is looking at way part of
the relation to all four dimensions,
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02:37:31.399 --> 02:37:35.840
something that physicists today are not doing
enough of. This is where we find
1968
02:37:35.840 --> 02:37:39.440
the answer black holes, the Big
Bang, time, all of it.
1969
02:37:41.000 --> 02:37:45.239
I mean, it's so miraculous.
When we use this clock, I get
1970
02:37:45.280 --> 02:37:48.920
calls from people at Los Alamos National
Labs who use it. Now I get
1971
02:37:48.959 --> 02:37:54.120
physicists, even sacred geometries are starting
to use this model in their work.
1972
02:37:54.680 --> 02:38:00.040
I get it all the way to
fifteenth position, to sixteenth second, and
1973
02:38:00.600 --> 02:38:03.440
when you reduce the spacecraft to zero
mass, then you can go to the
1974
02:38:03.440 --> 02:38:07.399
speed of light. The next challenge
is to break the speed of light and
1975
02:38:07.719 --> 02:38:11.879
go far beyond, because even the
speed of light is far too slow for
1976
02:38:11.959 --> 02:38:16.239
the experiment to be operating at this
is where I'm going into an area that
1977
02:38:16.399 --> 02:38:20.399
is so dangerous. It gets slapped
by a lot of physicists with this.
1978
02:38:20.879 --> 02:38:26.399
But yet again, as I pointed
out, Jemguego finally did it, and
1979
02:38:26.520 --> 02:38:31.319
so did Raymond Chow at Berkeley.
Both of their models fit perfectly into what
1980
02:38:31.360 --> 02:38:35.120
I'm doing here. So for those
who have that kind of a mind,
1981
02:38:35.520 --> 02:38:39.159
if you don't understand this right now, you can always come up to me
1982
02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:43.600
in the next two days at my
table and I'll hash this out with you
1983
02:38:43.680 --> 02:38:48.799
on paper and give you some finer
details and the nineteenth bomb. But for
1984
02:38:48.920 --> 02:38:52.799
now, visually, to understand what
I'm doing. When we look at the
1985
02:38:52.799 --> 02:38:56.399
waves, we're used to looking at
waves on their side in two D,
1986
02:38:56.920 --> 02:38:58.959
and you're going to look at the
waves on the UFO, They're going to
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02:39:00.120 --> 02:39:05.440
tell us the signature of their propulsion
system. It's all about waves and transformation,
1988
02:39:05.079 --> 02:39:09.200
transformation of the wave state of mass. That's what it's all about.
1989
02:39:09.719 --> 02:39:15.760
That's how they do it. What
starts to happen here is because the oscillations
1990
02:39:15.799 --> 02:39:20.399
here are increasing so much. Again, as we look at this, as
1991
02:39:20.440 --> 02:39:24.479
we look at this galaxy clock,
we are seeing the creation of our own
1992
02:39:24.600 --> 02:39:28.559
galaxy. We can look now for
a moment at what the core and what
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02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:33.479
a galaxy actually looks like, and
we can see the same phenomena happening.
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02:39:33.799 --> 02:39:39.239
The same creation is actually happening.
So what's actually happening is if we take
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02:39:39.280 --> 02:39:45.159
this spiral into an eternally smaller and
smaller and smaller orbit, what starts to
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02:39:45.239 --> 02:39:50.840
happen is the oscillations per second of
the wave increase so dramatically as we get
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02:39:50.879 --> 02:39:56.479
into smaller and smaller micro orbits.
They basically go into the millions, the
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02:39:56.479 --> 02:40:00.479
billions, and the trillions, and
all the way to a Google, a
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02:40:00.559 --> 02:40:05.200
number that is so high that as
the oscillations get smaller and smaller, there's
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02:40:05.280 --> 02:40:09.559
actually no end to how small we
can go, because we can go into
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02:40:09.559 --> 02:40:15.680
the micro universe. As we go
into the micro universe, the oscillations of
2002
02:40:15.719 --> 02:40:20.239
the wave become so high that the
frequency of gravity, the energy in the
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02:40:20.319 --> 02:40:24.239
vortex, the gravity for space and
timeline, is showing us that as it's
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02:40:24.319 --> 02:40:31.159
curving and as it's oscillating faster and
faster and faster, that mass as it
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02:40:31.200 --> 02:40:37.280
comes in contact with this force,
starts to accelerate. Photons go from a
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02:40:37.360 --> 02:40:41.639
lower frequency wave state into a higher
frequency wave state. For example, in
2007
02:40:41.680 --> 02:40:48.440
the radio spectrum, as we looked
at the electromagnetic spectrum earlier, the lowest
2008
02:40:48.479 --> 02:40:52.600
part of the em spectrum that we
know waves are oscillating at around one thousand
2009
02:40:52.600 --> 02:40:58.239
times per second. That's low and
ratio. In time you get into the
2010
02:40:58.360 --> 02:41:03.319
visible or even radio frequency. High
radio, one million times per second,
2011
02:41:03.719 --> 02:41:09.600
a wave is oscillating one thousands and
billions, is right. That means over
2012
02:41:09.639 --> 02:41:13.239
a distance of one hundred and eighty
six thousand, two hundred and eighty two
2013
02:41:13.280 --> 02:41:18.239
miles, if we had a wave
that long and we coiled it, we
2014
02:41:18.280 --> 02:41:22.639
would oscillate a million times in the
frequency of radio. In microwaves, you're
2015
02:41:22.680 --> 02:41:28.360
oscillating a billion times per second.
By the time we get into infrared,
2016
02:41:28.680 --> 02:41:33.159
you're in a trillion times per second. When we get into the visible light
2017
02:41:33.239 --> 02:41:37.639
spectrum, we're operating and oscillating at
numbers that are so high in frequency.
2018
02:41:39.079 --> 02:41:45.280
What's happening as this frequency increases is
again the force of gravity becomes so strong
2019
02:41:45.760 --> 02:41:50.920
that any mass that becomes in contact
with that frequency photons or even solid mass,
2020
02:41:52.399 --> 02:41:56.040
the frequency of that mass becomes so
high that the mass becomes in essence
2021
02:41:56.120 --> 02:42:01.399
lighter. In other words, it
doesn't have that sort of feeling of weight
2022
02:42:01.440 --> 02:42:05.520
to it, the feeling of mass, so it starts to accelerate. This
2023
02:42:05.559 --> 02:42:09.520
is starting to tell us what's happening
in a black hole in the center of
2024
02:42:09.559 --> 02:42:16.440
our galaxy. I am proposing that
black holes. Everything is reducing and mesmerized
2025
02:42:16.520 --> 02:42:22.639
by the amazing pulsing waves from the
STS seventy five tether incident UFOs, I
2026
02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:26.440
decide to take a look at the
waves frame by frame. I felt they
2027
02:42:26.520 --> 02:42:33.079
might reveal the propulsion system of these
giant UFOs. I once asked doctor Glenn
2028
02:42:33.079 --> 02:42:37.799
Seborg, who shared the Nobel Prize
with McMillan for the discovery of plutonium,
2029
02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:45.799
former chair of the Atomic Energy Commission
under President Kennedy Johnson and Nixon authorizing all
2030
02:42:45.879 --> 02:42:50.600
of the nuclear weapons testing at the
Nevada test site, about anti gravity generators
2031
02:42:50.639 --> 02:42:56.639
being developed by alternative energy developers.
He answered me and said, if anyone
2032
02:42:56.719 --> 02:43:01.879
could build a gravity generator, they
would have an energy source far beyond nuclear
2033
02:43:01.959 --> 02:43:07.079
fusion. And I don't believe anyone
is doing anything like that yet. These
2034
02:43:07.120 --> 02:43:11.840
pulses on a huge TV screen with
a fall with a heavy air force,
2035
02:43:13.399 --> 02:43:16.520
they are so clear and in focus. You think if the camera was out
2036
02:43:16.559 --> 02:43:20.559
of focus. It was amazing.
There is no way the waves would be
2037
02:43:20.639 --> 02:43:26.479
this We identified and preframed the first
pulse of the UFO as it was passing
2038
02:43:26.520 --> 02:43:31.959
over the top of the twelve mile
long tether. We were both astounded and
2039
02:43:31.040 --> 02:43:37.280
in such aw I could barely speak. Any quantum physicist found that in this
2040
02:43:37.399 --> 02:43:41.120
investigation, that's exactly what that looks
like. Looking at what it was,
2041
02:43:41.680 --> 02:43:46.559
a gravity wave with a steep spiral
radiating from the UFO right out of the
2042
02:43:46.600 --> 02:43:52.920
phase two galaxy clock. It was
the clear signature of a powerful gravity wave
2043
02:43:52.040 --> 02:43:56.959
that was clearly bending light into the
shape of the incredible magnitude of the wave.
2044
02:43:58.440 --> 02:44:01.200
The wave radiated right out of the
black hole in the center of the
2045
02:44:01.319 --> 02:44:07.559
UFO, and we could see clearly
that by the extent of the wave coming
2046
02:44:07.639 --> 02:44:11.680
out of the black hole, that
the hole was the point where gravity produced
2047
02:44:11.719 --> 02:44:16.840
in the UFO's propulsion system was faster
than light, and because our eyes and
2048
02:44:16.920 --> 02:44:20.719
cameras could not produce a signal that
fast, it appeared black as The mystery
2049
02:44:20.760 --> 02:44:26.440
that beckoned me with the knowing that
the UFOs were capable of utilizing such high
2050
02:44:26.440 --> 02:44:31.159
frequency gravity waves that they could compromise
the wave it could touch high frequency gravity
2051
02:44:31.159 --> 02:44:35.639
waves that they could conquer the speed
of light and visit us from another star
2052
02:44:35.719 --> 02:44:41.760
system. I now believe that's wave
number three, but it really doesn't matter.
2053
02:44:41.239 --> 02:44:46.559
These waves are The phase two pulse
was equally astounding because it showed an
2054
02:44:46.639 --> 02:44:52.239
outward pulsing ring, another phenomenon that
happened in the galaxy clock. When each
2055
02:44:52.399 --> 02:44:58.840
inner ring completed an oscillation, it
produced an outward moving wave, and as
2056
02:44:58.920 --> 02:45:03.360
all the rings in the Gallay galaxy
clock complete their oscillations, the wave would
2057
02:45:03.440 --> 02:45:07.440
radiate out to the periphery of the
clock. But this was also telling me
2058
02:45:07.559 --> 02:45:13.440
that the extreme high frequency magnetism gravity
produced in the center of the UFO's gravity
2059
02:45:13.479 --> 02:45:18.319
generator was being distributed throughout its mass. There had to be a reason for
2060
02:45:18.440 --> 02:45:22.159
this, I thought, But was
this the UFO's propulsion system. The phase
2061
02:45:22.200 --> 02:45:26.520
three pulse was showing the ring moving
back towards the center, as if to
2062
02:45:26.559 --> 02:45:33.000
see the galaxy clock moving in the
opposite direction. Perhaps they alternated their pulses
2063
02:45:33.079 --> 02:45:37.239
in time forward with time reverse,
and there was some reason for doing this.
2064
02:45:37.840 --> 02:45:43.799
Perhaps this prevented the high frequency pulsing
energy from dissipating and keeping the mass
2065
02:45:43.799 --> 02:45:48.360
of the UFO in a high frequency
wave state. I really believe that the
2066
02:45:48.399 --> 02:45:52.239
answer to our future space program was
daring at us with a clear signature from
2067
02:45:52.319 --> 02:45:58.559
a most profoundly advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
But who were they? The answer would
2068
02:45:58.600 --> 02:46:03.000
take more time. I sent the
photographs of the three phase pulse to doctor
2069
02:46:03.120 --> 02:46:09.280
Neuh and wrote a long letter on
January twenty second, two thousand. Dear
2070
02:46:09.319 --> 02:46:11.840
doctor Neh, I just wanted to
see if you received the photos from the
2071
02:46:11.920 --> 02:46:16.040
NASA video I sent you. Also, have you seen the videotape yet?
2072
02:46:16.440 --> 02:46:20.399
What do you think of the pulsing
waves of light in their particular formations?
2073
02:46:20.879 --> 02:46:26.159
Doctor Nuh wrote me back the following
letter on February twenty second, two thousand.
2074
02:46:26.600 --> 02:46:31.760
Dear mister Sirita, Yes, saved
your photographs, and they are indeed
2075
02:46:31.879 --> 02:46:37.000
quite peculiar. However, at least
in the photographs, I have seen nothing
2076
02:46:37.079 --> 02:46:41.799
that could not be explained as floating
debris illuminated through sharp shadows in the Shuttle
2077
02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:46.360
Bay. Maybe the videotape shows different
things. I will try to see the
2078
02:46:46.399 --> 02:46:50.959
tape soon, Sign Joe Nuh.
It's hard to explain what you just saw,
2079
02:46:52.159 --> 02:46:54.680
so I'm going to make it easy
for you. Here there's three phases
2080
02:46:54.760 --> 02:47:00.000
that the shuttle cameras could capture on
the tape. You got your black hole
2081
02:47:00.120 --> 02:47:05.200
in the center. Remember this morning, Peter Davenport showed us the eyewitness testimonies
2082
02:47:05.239 --> 02:47:11.319
of the translucent disc with the dark
mass in the center. And also John
2083
02:47:11.360 --> 02:47:15.719
Schuessler gave us a report from the
People's Republic of China of the notch on
2084
02:47:15.760 --> 02:47:20.000
the side, the black notch.
So it is consistent in a lot of
2085
02:47:20.040 --> 02:47:24.719
other sightings of UFOs. So what
the waves look like? Again, We're
2086
02:47:24.799 --> 02:47:28.040
used to looking at waves on their
side, but when you come in from
2087
02:47:28.079 --> 02:47:31.719
a wave in the third dimension depth, waves are actually spinning like this.
2088
02:47:33.360 --> 02:47:35.760
So when you see the bigger ring
and then you see the small ring,
2089
02:47:37.079 --> 02:47:41.159
and then you see the spiral.
What this tells me is that the wider
2090
02:47:41.200 --> 02:47:46.440
the diameter on a wave, the
lower its frequency. And remember mass is
2091
02:47:46.479 --> 02:47:50.760
low in frequency. So in order
if you're going to raise the frequency of
2092
02:47:50.840 --> 02:47:54.600
mass from its low wave state and
raise it up, you have to first
2093
02:47:54.680 --> 02:47:58.159
phase synchronize with the base level.
You can't just send gamma rays or X
2094
02:47:58.280 --> 02:48:03.360
rays at a ball of steel.
You're just going to get the photoelectric effect,
2095
02:48:03.639 --> 02:48:07.280
and you're going to heat it up
and you're going to be very frustrated.
2096
02:48:07.760 --> 02:48:11.719
You have to phase synchronize with the
lowest frequency wave, and that means
2097
02:48:11.760 --> 02:48:16.000
you have to calculate where it is. So if you're in synchronicity with your
2098
02:48:16.000 --> 02:48:20.200
wave generator, you can start stepping
it up the next wave. The camera
2099
02:48:20.280 --> 02:48:24.360
coot is a smaller ring. That
means as waves spiral in smaller orbits,
2100
02:48:24.680 --> 02:48:30.840
their frequency is increasing. And then
whenever in quantum physics, whenever you see
2101
02:48:30.840 --> 02:48:35.760
a wave particle relationship spiral in that
is a quantum leap from a lower frequency
2102
02:48:35.799 --> 02:48:39.120
wave state to a very high frequency
wave state. So the particle in the
2103
02:48:39.159 --> 02:48:43.239
center is very similar to our black
hole in the center of our galaxy,
2104
02:48:43.559 --> 02:48:48.879
except I propose and on quantum models. Quantum models do not agree with Einstein
2105
02:48:50.000 --> 02:48:54.920
and black holes. In quantum models, particle physicists, when you look at
2106
02:48:54.959 --> 02:49:00.799
the orbits of particles, those with
greater mass have much larger diameters. Particles
2107
02:49:00.840 --> 02:49:05.399
of lower mass in collisions spiral in
tighter orbits. The electron is the lowest
2108
02:49:05.520 --> 02:49:11.120
mass particle we know of, So
if you follow that model, greater mass
2109
02:49:11.159 --> 02:49:16.760
particles have larger orbits. Lower mass
particles have tighter orbits. What we're seeing
2110
02:49:16.879 --> 02:49:20.040
is a larger orbit wave, a
smaller orbit wave, and then one that
2111
02:49:20.200 --> 02:49:26.479
just races in. That's a signature
going from low medium to high frequency.
2112
02:49:26.040 --> 02:49:31.799
So we make spacecrafts out of steel. That's what we do now, if
2113
02:49:31.840 --> 02:49:35.319
we're going to convert steel to light. And in theory, if I'm right
2114
02:49:35.399 --> 02:49:39.799
here, what would happen if we
bombarded steel with a series of low,
2115
02:49:39.600 --> 02:49:45.120
medium and high frequency waves, if
we stepped it up. Well, just
2116
02:49:45.200 --> 02:49:50.600
by accident, I found Canadian scientists
John Hutchinson was doing just that, and
2117
02:49:50.760 --> 02:49:54.840
what is now known as the Hutchinson
effect. Lockheed Martin and Boeing and all
2118
02:49:54.879 --> 02:49:58.760
that our defense contractors are up there
in his lab trying to figure out what
2119
02:49:58.799 --> 02:50:03.639
he's doing. A lot of you
may have heard of him. So the
2120
02:50:03.680 --> 02:50:07.799
next piece of footage you're about to
see, remember that he's doing the same
2121
02:50:07.879 --> 02:50:11.639
thing, the very signature. This
is evidence. This is what I mean
2122
02:50:11.719 --> 02:50:18.239
by evidence. This is scientific evidence. You're going to see the beginning phase
2123
02:50:18.280 --> 02:50:22.639
of the answer to their propulsion system. So if we can run the tape,
2124
02:50:22.840 --> 02:50:26.399
we don't have that much more time
left here. I met with him
2125
02:50:26.440 --> 02:50:30.120
in the year two thousand and one
to learn about his work and to show
2126
02:50:30.200 --> 02:50:35.360
him the galaxy clock and gravity beyond
light speed theory. His work demonstrated the
2127
02:50:35.399 --> 02:50:39.399
principle perfectly. He was the first
scientist to change the frequency of mass from
2128
02:50:39.479 --> 02:50:45.280
a low seven to eight hertz wave
state to a higher frequency. He did
2129
02:50:45.319 --> 02:50:50.399
this in an amazing experiment where he
bombarded a seventy five pound cannon ball with
2130
02:50:50.520 --> 02:50:56.120
high frequency waves produced by Tesla Coyl's
radio with vandograph waves. As the seventy
2131
02:50:56.159 --> 02:51:01.040
five pound ball absorbed the high frequency
magnetic waves, its mass became lighter and
2132
02:51:01.200 --> 02:51:05.879
so light that it actually started to
levitate. If we can change the frequency
2133
02:51:05.879 --> 02:51:11.239
of mass into a high frequency wave
state, it can eventually turn into a
2134
02:51:11.319 --> 02:51:16.959
form soloid that the energy required for
propulsion for a spacecraft would reduce or become
2135
02:51:16.000 --> 02:51:22.399
more efficient and allow us to experience
less and less inertia, therefore experience less
2136
02:51:22.440 --> 02:51:26.760
g force in spaceflight. If mass
could become so light that it became as
2137
02:51:26.840 --> 02:51:31.520
light as a photon, mass or
spacecraft could attain the speed of light with
2138
02:51:31.719 --> 02:51:37.319
very little energy in the form of
actual propulsion. If mass or spacecraft could
2139
02:51:37.360 --> 02:51:41.680
transform into such a high frequency wave
state, that it went far beyond the
2140
02:51:41.719 --> 02:51:46.280
frequency of waves in the visible light
spectrum, mass or spacecraft could become invisible
2141
02:51:46.719 --> 02:51:52.719
higher yet mass or spacecraft could break
the flight. Now it was very clear
2142
02:51:52.760 --> 02:51:56.319
to me how the UFOs were traveling
beyond light speed. They were pulsing their
2143
02:51:56.360 --> 02:52:01.959
spacecraft with such high frequency waves of
energy that this spacecraft reduced its mass to
2144
02:52:03.000 --> 02:52:07.719
the point that it became so light
lighter than a photon. And when mass
2145
02:52:07.760 --> 02:52:11.479
becomes that light, it takes so
little energy for it to move at the
2146
02:52:11.520 --> 02:52:15.920
speed of light and beyond. The
answer to how we could propel ourselves to
2147
02:52:15.959 --> 02:52:20.319
the stars was being transmitted to us
in the form of a gravity beyond light
2148
02:52:20.399 --> 02:52:24.280
speed energy wave, the very signature
to how a spacecraft could break the speed
2149
02:52:24.319 --> 02:52:30.680
of light and visiance from outside our
own Solar system and possibly from one of
2150
02:52:30.719 --> 02:52:35.520
our nearest stars. Let's see the
ancient megalithic Ruined Stonehenge, believed to be
2151
02:52:35.600 --> 02:52:41.520
constructed by the ancient Druids in approximately
two thousand, nine hundred BC, embraces
2152
02:52:41.559 --> 02:52:48.079
the Midsummer sunrise and beckons the stars
above on Saulisbury Plain near Wiltshire in southern
2153
02:52:48.079 --> 02:52:52.280
England. Many astronomers believed it was
an ancient clock to the Sun, Moon,
2154
02:52:52.440 --> 02:52:58.440
and the stars, with precise alignment
patterns that continue to mystify scientists today,
2155
02:53:00.000 --> 02:53:03.879
as our ancient passed about to reveal
a mystery so great that it would
2156
02:53:03.920 --> 02:53:07.200
wait until we realized that our very
own future was inside of our past.
2157
02:53:07.719 --> 02:53:13.399
Across from Stonehenge, in a farmer's
field in nineteen ninety six, the same
2158
02:53:13.479 --> 02:53:18.120
year as the NASA STS seventy five
tether incident, a crop circle appeared with
2159
02:53:18.200 --> 02:53:22.920
the identical message of the gravity wave
pulsating from the UFO. It was a
2160
02:53:22.920 --> 02:53:28.040
crop circle with the nearly exact same
degree of a spiraling wave curvature, even
2161
02:53:28.120 --> 02:53:33.559
with a hole in the center.
Just as the NASA STS seventy five pulsing
2162
02:53:33.680 --> 02:53:39.840
UFO revealed, we're intelligent beings trying
to send us a message so clear and
2163
02:53:39.079 --> 02:53:43.600
with such regularity that it was intended
for us to decode. Was the message
2164
02:53:43.639 --> 02:53:50.520
the secret to their propulsion systems and
a gravity generator energy source capable of solving
2165
02:53:50.559 --> 02:53:56.440
our environmental energy pollution crisis. Okay, stop the tape there. We're not
2166
02:53:56.479 --> 02:53:58.840
going to be able to finish this
whole thing, so we're going to end.
2167
02:54:00.719 --> 02:54:03.840
I'm just going to finish with Mexico
if we can bring the lights up
2168
02:54:03.920 --> 02:54:07.000
on my comments on Mexico, and
I've made these points on the Art Bell
2169
02:54:07.040 --> 02:54:13.639
Show. How did eleven UFOs show
up on four looking infrared cameras which are
2170
02:54:13.639 --> 02:54:18.120
developed by the United States military.
Three of them showed up on radar,
2171
02:54:18.680 --> 02:54:22.799
the remaining eight did not. No
one could see them. What is the
2172
02:54:22.879 --> 02:54:26.479
answer? Well, after what you've
just seen, I mean a lot of
2173
02:54:26.479 --> 02:54:31.200
you can probably already come up with
a conclusion. But why did three show
2174
02:54:31.280 --> 02:54:37.239
up on radar and the remaining eight
did not? According to Jamie Musen's data,
2175
02:54:37.600 --> 02:54:41.120
the planes were flying between eleven and
twelve thousand feet. At that altitude,
2176
02:54:41.520 --> 02:54:48.159
it's wintered down there below the equator. You're at No, actually you're
2177
02:54:48.200 --> 02:54:54.040
above the equator. According to the
report, minus twenty six twenty seven degrees.
2178
02:54:54.399 --> 02:54:58.719
It's very cold. Humidity is seventy
five percent. If you're a UFO's
2179
02:54:58.760 --> 02:55:05.680
mass is actually vibrating up in the
ultraviolet spectrum, say not even up in
2180
02:55:05.680 --> 02:55:11.120
the gamma. Ultraviolet light is very
hot, has temperature. Remember Bud Hopkins'
2181
02:55:11.159 --> 02:55:16.719
stories about the radiation from these craft
and the Betty Cash incident. Ultraviolet radiation
2182
02:55:16.120 --> 02:55:22.399
is very intense. It's very hot. Now, imagine if the whole craft's
2183
02:55:22.479 --> 02:55:26.399
mass is vibrating in the ultraviolet in
Mexico. You won't see it. But
2184
02:55:26.639 --> 02:55:31.760
what happens is that temperature inference on
that humidity, that moisture, and that
2185
02:55:31.879 --> 02:55:37.479
moisture heats up instantly, okay,
And then your infrared camera senses the heat
2186
02:55:37.559 --> 02:55:43.680
signature down in the infrared spectrum and
it gets a picture, and that would
2187
02:55:43.719 --> 02:55:48.000
explain, you know, part of
what you're seeing in Mexico. But then
2188
02:55:48.040 --> 02:55:52.159
we also sent radar, which is
microwave radiation at the objects, and three
2189
02:55:52.159 --> 02:55:56.440
of them showed up on radar and
the remaining eight did not. That fits
2190
02:55:56.520 --> 02:56:01.520
consistently with my theory that once this
mass starts to reduce, it starts to
2191
02:56:01.559 --> 02:56:07.520
become almost translucent in a way,
and it can mass can disappear even down
2192
02:56:07.559 --> 02:56:13.760
in the radio spectrum. It doesn't
have to disappear instantly up in the ultraviolet.
2193
02:56:13.319 --> 02:56:18.799
So if it's very low mass but
still has some mass, radar would
2194
02:56:18.840 --> 02:56:22.399
bounce off of it because it has
some physicality. But once it starts to
2195
02:56:22.440 --> 02:56:28.600
go ultra high frequency microwaves at the
ultraviolet level or X rays are higher,
2196
02:56:28.639 --> 02:56:31.920
are not going to bounce back,
they're going to go right through it.
2197
02:56:33.399 --> 02:56:37.760
So they're actually demonstrating to us their
different phases of mass, and some that
2198
02:56:37.799 --> 02:56:43.319
are near zero mass which are totally
transparent to radar, and you have some
2199
02:56:43.479 --> 02:56:48.520
that are actually in a low mass
state but are actually invisible and radar actually
2200
02:56:48.559 --> 02:56:52.319
bounces off of them. The reason
the infrared cameras get a very clear picture
2201
02:56:52.520 --> 02:56:58.399
is because of the temperature conversion going
from the ultraviolet imprinting the moisture in the
2202
02:56:58.399 --> 02:57:05.959
atmosphere and against that very cold minus
twenty six degree background, you get an
2203
02:57:05.959 --> 02:57:11.719
infrared beacon. So the UFOs are
not actually in the infrared, they're much
2204
02:57:11.040 --> 02:57:16.000
much higher. You're just seeing.
It's like a thumb print on a piece
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of If your hand was really cold
and you put your finger on a piece
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of very hot, steamy glass,
you would leave a print. That's all
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we're seeing in the infrared. That
is what I believe is happening in Mexico.
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And I think the sighting is so
significant because it proves what I set
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forward many years ago when the sun
is in the air, and it proves
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that mass can actually start to transform
into higher states of frequency and disappear.
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And John Hutchinson with the steel cannonball
has gotten steel to actually disappear in front
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of his eyes. And many of
our defense contractors are there studying the phenomena.
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And since a lot of this work
has come out, Lockheed Martin is
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already using way generators on aircraft to
reduce inertial mass increases with air As aircraft
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go faster, their mass increases,
and they're already doing this successfully. They're
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already strobing steel with waves and getting
inertial mass increases to get lower, and
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by doing that they save a lot
of money on fuel. If they eventually
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get to the point of zero mass, we'll be doing the speed of light
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and beyond. And that's it for
the Paranormal Report. Don't forget to click
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on the links, and no matter
how much you hate Trump, don't gp
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setting yourself on fire in front of
a New York courthouse.