Designing Harmony: An Interior Designer and a Facial Surgeon Talk Balance

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You're listening to the Confident Choice Podcast with me, Dr.
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Roberto Garcia, a double board certified facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon.
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Honest conversations and expert advice about the decisions that make you feel your best.
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All right. Well, welcome everybody to episode 14 of season two.
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I guess that's technically episode two of season two.
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I'm going to tell you, we're going to do we're going to get this thing right
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is i feel like we're in like the ted lasso you've only got three sips of wine
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you know i know and but i'm getting today,
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today's today's a thursday you know we i get i get patient out what do we see today about 40 people,
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plus me plus plus a dear friend who has to learn how to walk again but anyway
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i want to tell you guys about something very exciting that we're doing today,
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we have a guest of honor,
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and i say honor with a capital H.
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Lisa Galensky is the top interior designer in North Florida.
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I have come to know her over the course of the last several years and have been
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marveled, not by the quality of work, but by the approach.
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And so I started to think as I was designing the episodes for season two, now episode two.
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I said, you know, one of the things that is really critical in our discipline
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is the idea of harmonizing the face, right?
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So it used to be something is wrong aesthetically, you lift it,
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you tuck it, okay, you're done.
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And you would really compartmentalize the face into saying, okay,
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we're only going to fix the cheek.
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But you're not really looking at everything from a whole view,
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right? You're not looking at everything from an entire view, right?
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It's like in your realm, only correcting one room, right? Or one item in a room.
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Or one item. Right. Like if you've ever gone to a house showing and the whole
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downstairs of the house is beautifully done and you get to the second floor
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and they didn't remodel any of the bathrooms, they didn't change out the flooring of the carpet.
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And so it feels like two different houses. So what do you think?
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Well, I do want to talk. I want to get into that.
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But I want to first, I got to get to know you better. Okay. I don't feel like I know you well enough.
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Why interior design? Oh, interesting. Well, when I was a child,
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believe it or not, we had, you know, all little girls have Barty's.
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And we had this wicker Barbie furniture.
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And I always wanted to set up Barty's house, literally. I would have scarves
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that were my area rugs. And I would literally set Barbie's house up as opposed
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to actually carrying what Barbie was wearing or playing with Barbie.
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So that's what my mother would say is like the earliest signs.
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And I always was more artistically driven and more creatively driven.
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And I love people and I love being able to make people's lives better.
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And I think through good design, you can make people's environments and their
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lives better, how they function, how they live, all those things.
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So when it came time to decide what I wanted to do for school,
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my sister was very academic and,
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Went to, you know, really smart school and I went to a nice high school,
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but it was a regular. So my parents were kind of like, okay.
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What is it that you want to do? And I was like, I want to be an interior designer.
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And it came from when we moved to Florida and my mom and dad bought a house
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that was not completed. It was at drywall stage.
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So every day after- How old were you at this time? Eighth grade.
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Eighth grade. So every day after school, we would go with my mom.
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She'd pick us up from school and we would go to all the showrooms and the furniture
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stores and the tile showrooms and all the places with her. And so I just loved it.
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Loved it. So when the time came, she's like, well, what do you want to do?
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What do you think you want to do?
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And I said, I want to be an interior designer. And, you know,
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back then, a lot of people were like, no, you have to get a teaching degree.
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You've got to get something to fall back on. That's artsy.
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That's not going to, you're not going to be able to support yourself with that.
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But my parents, luckily, my father particularly, was very much.
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If that's what you want to do, is find the very best place for you to learn to do.
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So he sent me, I got to go to Savannah College of Art and Design,
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which was amazing. It's a four-year degree in interior design.
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All the professors had to work in their profession while they were teaching.
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I had some drawing teachers that were, like, he worked under Andy Warhol.
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He's, like, studying under Andy Warhol. I mean, just, like, really cool, different people.
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So I got to see the textiles and the graphic design and the interior design.
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And then we were in this big old train station with architects.
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So we worked side by side with architects, which is very different than other
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schools. So Florida State at the time was in home economics.
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They now have a fabulous program. But at the time, it was like cooking and sewing.
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So I really wanted to go somewhere with the architecture base.
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So I never look back. So over the course of years.
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One's philosophy of business, forget about the brick and mortar,
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forget about the numbers and the spreadsheet and the boring parts of running a business. Okay.
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We're not going to talk about that. You and I have talked to Nazi.
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We could keep talking about that forever. Right.
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But for, for this argument's sake.
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There is an artistic element that morphs throughout the years of the artist's mind, right?
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Absolutely. Like you probably, you probably changed your approach in the course of 20 plus years. Yes.
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Tell me about that. Well, I'm old enough now to redo my own work.
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So that's been funny. I'm running into that.
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Yeah. It's a little humbling. And you look back, I think it took me a little
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while to realize that people could not see an entire room completed in their
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head like I could, that it was a gift to be able to see.
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And I'm sure for you, you can see what the finished result in someone's face
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is going to be, you know, that you can see it even though they can't.
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And so for me, it's a lot, a million little pieces. And for you,
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it's a little million little tweaks.
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But all of those things have to come together. And the more you do it,
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you know, it's that, you know, rule, like you do something 10,000 times and
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you're going to be really good at it.
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I think there's part of that. I think it's part of always educating yourself.
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And then also being open to new ideas.
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I look back at my early work and it was very safe. It was very matching.
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It was very pretty, but it didn't have the elements that now that I'm older
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and have been doing this longer, I have more. I'm fearless, I guess I would say.
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I know everything's fixable. And so I'm like, you know what,
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if we put this really cool, funky chair in there and it doesn't work,
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we're going to change it out. We're going to make it right. Let's fix it.
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But generally, those risks really pay off.
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And they're the difference between having a pretty environment that is safe
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and having something that feels like art, like feels, has a different feeling
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when you go into the room, has a different aesthetic. It's just the different layers.
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It's the different, the mixing of things. There's a famous designer that says,
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every room is the right amount of wrong. Right.
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And so, and so, you know, that was one thing that I came across early in my
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career when I was doing a lot of these, what I call stump speeches,
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right? Trying to build my business. And I was doing these talks all the time.
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I remember the first couple of talks, I had three or four people out of,
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you know, and you go to the, you think you're, you're, you think this is the
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beginning of your practice is what's going to build it.
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And you go there and you're, you do a talk for three women and none of them
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come to see you, but whatever.
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But the point is, the way you look at things changes so much.
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And I remember that I used to get a picture of Michelle Pfeiffer,
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who everybody at that point, this was in the early 2000s, had mentioned her perfect symmetry.
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What made her beautiful was her symmetry. All the supermodels have that symmetry.
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Well, I'm here to tell you, they don't. Really? And I'm going to tell you how I know that now.
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So i took it upon myself to get a picture of michelle pfeiffer and put it into
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this program called photoshop any of you guys ever heard of that well i just
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want to know i want you to know that i had photoshop version one okay and back then,
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you could cut a photograph in half mirror image the remaining half.
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And see if you truly had symmetry so you created a perfectly symmetric face,
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and it completely changed the appearance of a face and that is when i started understanding that,
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And you can probably, and I want you to get to this in a minute,
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you don't have to have like Taj Mahal balance. Yes, there's a place for that,
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but you have to have Taj Mahal harmony.
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And in a face, you're never going to have perfect symmetry.
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The face is made from two separate halves, right? God makes us from two separate
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halves. We fuse in the middle. That's why when it doesn't work,
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we have cleft lips. We have cleft collets and cleft disorders in the middle of life.
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However, you have to work within the already asymmetric disbalance of the face.
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And it is in that that you draw the harmony.
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To my point, how many of you guys in this room, when you, somebody says,
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take a picture, he says, take this side, take me from this angle, right?
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Why is that? That you have seen in your photographs that over a course of time
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of getting photos, you have seen that that side, the structures balance better.
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Right. They fall in the harmony. Right?
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And so in your business, that's got to be something that's amazingly similar, right?
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Absolutely. And it doesn't have to be the same exact thing.
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So, for instance, we've all walked into someone's house and they have a big,
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huge, dark sectional sofa and you walk in and the whole room feels like it's
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shifted one way, right? So, this whole room feels really like heavy on the right
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side and something just feels off.
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You don't really know what it is. Well, you go in and you put a really tall
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wood wall unit or a fireplace or something on the other wall and suddenly it's visual balance.
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Even though they're different, it balances out the space because you have heavy and heavy.
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And in between can be all light but you'd have to think about that visual balance
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when you walk in and i'm sure you think about it too in aesthetics it's like
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maybe somebody's eyebrow is i don't know heavy
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i don't know how you do it but i know for me it has to do with fabrics patterns depths of color
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it can also be heights you know like like is this is everything low in a room
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that doesn't feel right you need lamps that balance each other or.
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You know you You might need arc here.
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And if you do art on one side of the fireplace, it feels odd that there's not
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art on this right side. But on the right side, you might do two small pictures
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that equal one large picture. And on the left side, you might do one large picture.
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So even though they're different and show interest, they're visually similar.
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But, you know, there's also a bigger component to this.
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And that's that you can have Lisa Galensky can have the same exact style, so to speak. Okay.
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The je ne sais quoi or whatever i learned that in quebec by the way when i went
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there i don't know many french words my wife will be very happy to hear me say
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that you did it properly thank you very much i'm proud of myself for that one
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either way but you have different clients,
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who have different interpretations of beauty i have different patients who have
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different interpretations of beauty you have different friends of the clients that have different.
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Interpretations of their beauty, right?
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So now I have friends that they're going to dinner with and they're saying,
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well, I never really noticed that.
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And in my industry, I'm not looking for that wow. I'm not looking for the world to say wow.
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I'm looking for the patient and the closest people to them to be wowed.
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Like their best self. Right.
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And so now all of a sudden they stop. And this is kind of going back to last
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year's episode, season one, episode one.
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The, the idea of the personal interpretation of the disbalance is really what
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should be the driving factor.
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Right. So how do you get to that? It's like programming, right?
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In the beginning, there's lots of questions. There's lots of like,
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how do you live? What do you, you know, do you have pets?
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Do you have children? Do you like to come in the back door and drop your purse
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down on a hook or put it on a countertop?
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And then you get into the aesthetics of it. So first you do functionality,
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and then you get into the aesthetics of, okay, what do you like?
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Do you want, do you like pattern? Do you like color? What do you not like?
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How do you? Because what you don't like is. What if they don't?
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That happens a lot. Then. If you ask me, do I like patterns or I like stripes?
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I'm going to say, I don't know, maybe color. Right.
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Exactly. So I think it's a lot of showing images and asking how they feel about the images.
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I think what people like is as important as what they don't like.
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So they'll a lot of times bring in Pinterest boards or ideas,
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Instagram folders of things that they like or don't like. Now,
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if they don't know, then it's my job to ask even more questions.
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So I think it's important to look at the architecture of the space too.
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You want to make sure that,
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You're not giving a super contemporary interior to a Mediterranean exterior. Sure.
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So let's say they want contemporary, but it's a Mediterranean house.
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You want to make sure that you do like a California modern with beautiful textures
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and wood tones and things like that.
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So that's a way to do contemporary with the exterior that they have.
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So it's also leading the client where you want them to go. And that's something
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that comes with experience that.
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Well, ultimately, you are the voice of knowledge in the room.
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Yeah. You know, I think we all get clients that come to us for our expertise
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and respect our expertise and listen to our expertise. But then there are those
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clients that I get sometimes that ask all their friends and their friends' friends.
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And then all of a sudden, they're coming with notions and things in their heads
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that their friends did or that they think they should do or that they read about.
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And then suddenly it's like, this isn't right for your project. It's nice. It's pretty.
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But this isn't right for you. And so it's also our job to take all of the wide
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range of what they give us and narrow it down to what works for them.
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Pretty much like a patient comes in to see me and they have five friends that
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have told them what they need or even worse.
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Chat gpt or ai or rather google has told them hey listen this is what i feel you need so they come in
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tell beds do they do their own choppy chat gpt images of what they could look
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like these days i'm beginning to see those,
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last week i saw a young lady who she says i have a chat gpt rendering of my
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nose that i want you to do and i said all right hold on a second don't show
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it to me let's go to 3d vector imaging system,
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let me design the nose that i think fits your face would you believe it was
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the same exact nose that's amazing and she said can i show you a picture and
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she shows it to me on her phone i said looks like that one up on the screen and then.
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They understand they have such confidence in you right if she had shown you
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that picture and then you copied it right it doesn't mean she told you what
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to do so honestly i wasn't doing it to gain i wasn't doing it to gain her conference,
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I was actually doing it to humor myself.
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Right. Like, I'm sorry for, for you who's watching that I wasn't doing it to
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like humor myself. No, but I think that part of that too is...
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But I kind of wanted to challenge myself to see how close my...
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And so that's when I realized what ChatGPT does, okay?
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ChatGPT is an informational database based upon averages over the internet,
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images, analytics, data, interpretations all over the internet.
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It's basically the best internet scouring device that you're ever going to get, right?
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And so what it does is it takes a particular data points of a person's face,
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say on an image, and it says historically across the internet,
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surgeons are doing this to this nose.
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And so we are going to say that this is what would fit on this person's face and the only reason
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that there's congruency between
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amongst surgeons doing similar noses on a similar face is because of,
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balance and hurry and experience and experience and that face for whatever reason
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the nose that now fits that face
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balances with everything else right right and so when i'm looking at somebody
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when they come in for a consultation,
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I'm saying to myself, what, and oftentimes they'll come in and say,
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I think I need this, this, this, this, and this.
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And I said, hold on a second. Let's find the one or two things that are going
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to reestablish the harmony to the face.
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And once you've corrected those things, like I saw a lady today in clinic who
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wanted a brow lift, eyes, and
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a facelift. And I said, all you really need to do is correct your eyes.
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And that was a year and a half ago. And she came in today just to follow up
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and say, I just want to tell you, thank you so much for not telling me to do
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all this things. You corrected the eyes and...
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Our job isn't to sell them on meaningless nonsense.
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Our job is their happiness, their eventual happiness, right?
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Right. And it's crazy how they, like how much they're correlating because I
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can go into someone's kitchen and like, I think I need a whole new kitchen.
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I'm like, no, you need new countertops and a new backsplash and you need to
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paint your cabinets. These are good cabinets. The layout's good.
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I wouldn't change the layout. Why would you, you know, if for sure.
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And so it's sort of similar. It's like, you've got to do what's right for the
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client and right for the thing and i think that comes back to integrity too like we.
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You know i i don't just sell people things to sell them right i don't go and
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find the most expensive things to sell people i say you know it's sometimes
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it's high low you know there's going to be something that's this is the right
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whatever the right table is it's the right table whether it's the lower you know the
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mid lane price point or whether it's you know the high based on their budget
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so it's nice to have a mix in there yeah and like sometimes
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you know You got to have,
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places where you're going to put budgetary dollars, more budgetary dollars towards
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something because you say, you know what, I'm willing to die on the hill for that one.
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I'm willing to put more money into that one. I'm willing to kind of not put
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as much money into this other one. Right. It's like priorities.
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But I would think, too, like people, like we have what I call wow points.
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When you go into a home, you want things that catch people's eye.
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I would think if everything's a wow point, nothing really stands out.
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And I would think it's similar for you. It's like, if you do their eyes,
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then their eyes stand out. But if you did their eyes and their chin and their,
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you know, all those too many things, then nothing's really the strength in the face.
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Well, you know, but, but also to, to that point, I understand what you're saying.
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What we do is we find that as that aesthetic stronghold of the face, right?
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Everybody's got a feature, right? Everybody's got a power, power place. Yeah.
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And what we do is we take, in our world, we're not as much accentuating things like you guys are.
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We're detracting this beauty to enhance natural beauty. Do you understand what
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I mean by that? It's the opposite.
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It's kind of the flip side of what you guys do. You guys are bringing in something
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to attract an attentive eye.
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I'm doing things to detract the critical eye and allow the natural beauty to rise on its own.
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Right. And that is how, at least in our industry, we seek that natural look
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and that, huh, you look really good.
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I don't know why, but something's just really good about you.
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It just seems like it's, I don't know. It's just balance. And we used the word
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balance of harmony today about a hundred times. I'm sorry, guys.
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We drink every time. I know. We should have done the George Thorogood drinking,
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game. By the way, a friend of mine went to go see him in St.
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Augustine. Yes. George Thorogood. You know who he is.
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Says he gets around a little slower, guitar is exactly the same,
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and he sounds just as good.
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And I'm like, and you didn't invite me. Do you know how many parties I went
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to in college listening to George Thorogood? Yeah, that, that was some good
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memories. Man, well, if you can call on memories.
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In order for you to have a memory, you have to remember the entire event, Lisa. Yeah, well.
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But I'm curious. So what's next? That's a good question.
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I love design, but I've kind of twisted into more of a mentorship program.
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Like, I feel like now my job is to take all the knowledge and the things that
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I've learned over time and to impart it to the next generation of designers.
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So I'm going to do that with people in my office, first of all.
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I now have some designers that have been with me 10 years, five years.
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And so that's great because they worked alongside me and learned so much.
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And then I've been able to help them along the way with things.
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So they're very strong, talented designers that will continue on when I don't
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want to do this anymore someday.
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But so that's one. And then two, I've been doing a lot of mentorship through
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the American Society of Interior Designers. So I mentor young students,
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which a lot of them, ironically, are second careers.
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Interior design is a huge second career for people.
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Like they've been married, had kids, and now they want to get back to the workforce.
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They went to college for something else, and their parents were like,
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you know, you have to get a finance degree or be an accountant.
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And they're like, no, I've always wanted to do design. And then they go back to school for it. Yeah.
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What is the, after one's graduated from college, what is the general curriculum like?
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So you can get a four-year degree and then you they license interior designers
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in the state of florida and california and some other states so that's sort
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of like they do architects so you have to have a four-year degree,
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and have two years work experience under a licensed designer and then you sit
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for a two-day exam which is drafting and codes and
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so it's not an additional act didactic curriculum that you go through no not
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i have to take i have to do ceus probably like you do like 20 hours of CEOs,
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or you have to have a two year degree and then work four years under someone. Yeah.
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Well, it's a beautiful career. You guys make a huge difference in people's lives. It's great.
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And I can't tell you how happy I am that you came on the show. So fun.
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I think that when I came up with the idea, I have kind of a bum right shoulder,
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so I couldn't reach back to pat my back enough with the idea. I'm kidding.
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But I think this kind of brings it to the end of episode, season two,
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episode two. I keep saying that.
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Or Izzy, episode 14. It's okay to say it. And just know that next week,
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we are going to be talking about best types of anesthesia, and we are going to have our...
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Anesthesia guru david armstrong on here and it's not going to be sleepy for
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all you uh puns puns people out there,
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it's going to actually be very interesting and when he told me yes i'll do it
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he said as long as i can have some bourbon and i said sure we will have bourbon
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on the show i think that's a lot of.
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Mystery behind anesthesia i know a lot of people don't know i would be really
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interested you know does which what are the levels of anesthesia is it safe
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am i going to lose my mind am i gonna have dementia i get asked that all the
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time oh really yeah yeah it's like a common question because people
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all you got to do is get something on the news one time,
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of a person who was already going to have dementia,
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they have an as they have an aesthetic and all of a sudden my mother now has
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alzheimer's because what she was probably already going to have it i think there's
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a lot of things like that in medicine yeah so one thing i do do lisa which is
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really fun at the end of every show,
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is my dad i don't know if you know this but he passed uh last year he's my best
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friend remember that yeah,
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and funny story about my dad instead of a lesson today we're going to tell a
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story so when i was cutting my
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teeth and coming up and i had the new the original office in neptune beach,
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my dad would come there he and i were as thick as thieves all right I mean, constantly together.
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And he would come to the office at least three times a week. Remember that, Lori?
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He would just show up and all of a sudden he's walking out of the hallway.
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And one day I'm there with a patient.
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It was in the afternoon. And he just stands there in the hallway.
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And I have my back to him because my back's at the door. And the door's open.
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And you see the patient just kind of look up. And she says, hi.
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And he goes, hi, who are you?
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And she goes, I'm so-and-so. And he goes, what are you here for?
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This is this is an old gold gruff cuban immigrant okay,
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and she says well i'm asking dr gracia whether i should do a cheek lift or whatnot
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he walks in he had these short stubby fingers okay my dad did what did he do
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from he was an internist but he was uh he was an olympic rower in cuba okay,
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he was strong but he had old strength my dad used to do 100 100 or 120 push-ups
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every day and 200 sit-ups every day wow till he was probably 70 he did that.
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Just natural strength anyway he walks in with those big sausage fingers and
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he grabs this woman's face and starts moving it up and down and her eyes get
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to the size of silver dollars and she's thinking herself who is this old man who just walked out,
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because i hadn't introduced him to her right is he like yeah it was the signal
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that's coming in and grabbing my face yeah and i said dad dad dad dad hold on a second
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and he says she doesn't need anything leave her alone and he walks out he turns around he leaves
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and i said that was my father i just want you to know that you don't need anything
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apparently you like passed the meeting standard yeah i thought that was the
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funniest story i was just thinking about it the other day and i said man
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you know i hope that one day you know my son rocco he's in pre-med at miami
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oh i didn't know he was doing yeah,
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yeah yeah he's he's he loves it i asked him one day i said rocco are you sure
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you want to do this when he was in high school that's hard and he says dad,
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There's nothing else in the world I would rather do. So, you know,
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in medicine, we did a motivational Monday thing a few days ago.
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It's a calling. I believe. Like yours. Yeah, absolutely. You know,
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early on, if it's, and if you pick it up along the way, it's probably not that calling.
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Like I had it when I was 14. I knew. Yeah.
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My husband's a dentist and he knew. Yeah. You know.
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And so, and so it's an interesting thing because my dad had that,
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had that calling later, you know in college and he was an engineer first,
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when he came from cuba he studied engineering in florida and then after a while
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he went to study medicine because he always wanted to study medicine right but
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he didn't have an avenue in the united states so he studied in spain then he
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came back but i hope one day,
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that i'm that old gruff guy and my son rocco is examining a patient.
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And i can pay it forward that would be such a full circle oh my gosh i can't
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wait to have that moment and i hope he handles it with as much grace as i did
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because i took my dad into the back room and i yelled out,
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yeah oops i'm like dad we're starting a business what are you doing ah forget
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about it'll be fine she'll get over it she didn't end up scheduling anything whatever,
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so listen very good having you here so much fun i'll come anytime yeah yeah
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we got to have you out again.
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And remember that good decisions always come from good information.
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This is the Contour team signing out. Have a great week, guys.
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This is going to be an awesome season. Bye-bye.