EP 450: This Isn't The End, Just A New Beginning

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What is to be expected to be the last episode
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of the Queen Comedy Podcast. It's an end of four
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hundred and fifty episodes, and actually, if you go back
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and look, there's more than that, because there are like
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one offs and stuff like that, but official four hundred
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and fifty episodes. And I'm with my co host, mister
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Seth Lawrence. Seth, how's it going? Hey?
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Pretty good? Pretty good? It is huge, Yeah, pretty deep,
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pretty deep. It's big change change, a name change, a brand,
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the whole.
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Thing change, and it's all changing. And I was talking
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to Seth before the podcast. I'm going to look for
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like a person studio. I have a couple of options
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and opportunities coming and I have things like that. So
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this is being dropped on the second of September, so
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and then there'll probably be a break for a month
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of where I'm trying to figure it out and put
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all the pieces together. There are a couple of options
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for other things. People have invited me to be part
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of a podcast. I have a call with that for
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with somebody later this week. I agree with that, but
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I also want to do my WTH podcast, so I
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need something that's like a one on one thing, and
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then I also want something that's like kind of a
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group podcast. And then there will also be a audio
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only Funny Money podcast that'll come out every month or
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so where I do kind of like ideas for how
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to make money and comedy and stuff like that. But
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I want to also do a legal podcast, and Seth
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and I kind of talked about that a little bit.
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I have a friend who is a professor at law school,
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and then Seth is actually a lawyer, has a lot
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of degree, and then I am in law school. So
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there's three different points of view. Yeah, there you go,
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point to point to all your beautiful things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Now are you still considered a barred lawyer? Are you?
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Are you?
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I mean it's inactive in North Carolina. My license either
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pay every year or you put it on hiatus.
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So I put it on hiatus.
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And have you ever thought about taking the California bar
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to like see if you could do, like just to
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have it as a backup here?
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I thought about it, and I actually sat for it,
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but I stopped studying for it about halfway through because
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I was like, what's the point. I don't even want
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to really do this. I don't think out here. So
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I sat for the bar, took it and did not pass.
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But you know, I don't know.
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I don't even know now if I could sit for
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it again, I don't know what I would have to
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do to sit for it again.
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That's a good question. Yeah, that's amazing. It's as I'm studying,
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I'm realizing, luckily I'm smart enough that I paid attention
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enough like law, like law shows and law books and
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like legal dramas and whatever like oh, so like it's funny,
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and then it makes it. It does this two purpose
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thing where I'll know something and I'm like doing my
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class and I'm like, oh, yeah, this is how that works.
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And then the professor explains it. I'm like, okay, I'm
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only slightly off on how it works. And then I'll
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go watch something like I was watching uh suits La.
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I yeah, ever see that show? And version there's a
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new one suits La. It takes place I see in
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La and stuff and with Steven Mmel, who's awesome movies
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to be arrow, And so they're doing it and I go,
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oh yeah, and I like, I forgot what it was,
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but I like, say it to. My wife is watching
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it with me. She goes, how do you know that?
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And then they exactly said the same thing or whatever,
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And I was like, law school, baby, like, come on,
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learn the terms, learn the rules. You'll be all right,
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you know. Yeah, But it's hard. It's so many it's
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so many rules. And here's a weird thing. I don't
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think that law school is equal to what you're supposed
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to learn on the bar. Like I don't feel like
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it's the same things. So it feels unfair. And then
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so you're not learning the same thing that you're going
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to learn when you go practice law. It's like three
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you're like learning three different steps.
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It's ridiculous.
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The New York Times did a huge expose I want
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to say now, maybe ten years ago, about the issues
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of our legal education. They canvassed a bunch of bigger
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law firms and the research was basically unanimous. Every law
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firm came back and said, it's not necessarily a waste.
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People go to law school and they're taught how to
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think like a lawyer thinks, but as far as being
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useful to a law firm, absolutely not. So these people
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come out of law school and even studying for the bar,
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and then go into a job and the job is
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document review or basic contract editing and formulation. It's not
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really what you've been studying in school because what you
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study in school or Supreme Court decisions and the rules
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that come from those decisions and some reasoning as to
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why those decisions were made the way that they were.
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So if we all graduated from law school and went
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into a justice position, like on either the Superior Court
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or you know, not saying that we've become Supreme Court justices,
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but you're much more geared to writing a judicial opinion
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out of law school than anything else, which is not
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what you do as a lawyer until you become a judge.
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If you decide to do that, and most don't. Most
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of what you're.
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Doing are legal briefs, summarizing points things like that. That
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is tangentially useful, but you're not coming up with a brief,
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you know, you're not coming up with a judicial decision.
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So yeah, that was one issue. The other issue is
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that the bar is not law school, and basically everybody
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has to spend a bunch of money outside of law
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school to study for the bar exam, which is its
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own beast and different in every state.
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It's a racket. It feels like a racket.
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And then the law firms hire you and they spend
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two to three years training you, and for big law
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they burn you out, so you leave and they have
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to just repeat the whole process again with the next
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crop of new lawyers.
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That's crazy. It sounds like comedy. It sounds a lot
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like comedy.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, there are a lot of
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overlaps with comedy and legal writing or legal thinking in particular. Yeah,
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that's another fascinating kind of bit.
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Well, yeah, because I mean the thing about this, go
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to open mics, you're just grinding. That's not really what
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comedy is. If you think an open mic is comedy,
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it's not comedy. It's not the same thing. And the
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laughs that you get there are not guaranteed to be
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the same laughs that you're going to get on a
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real stage in front of a real audience. Right, And
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the biggest part of comedy isn't even the portion of
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getting up and telling jokes. It's the networking and making
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understanding bookers and trying to make deals and trying to
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get booked and traveling, all those things that are not
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even in the scope of what you would even learn.
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It's a whole different ballgame, you know.
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Yeah, I mean my one pushback is if you're doing
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open mics, you are hopefully at least learning how to write.
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A joke, hopefully, you know, but a lot of people
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write to the back of the room or to the
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lowest common denominator.
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Sure, and that's what I was just gonna say.
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The jokes you're probably learning that get the payoff at
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the open mics are so dark that regular people are terrified.
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When they hear it.
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But you at least understand, like, here's the structure, and
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then you have to kind of pull it back and
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be like, well, where's the line for normal people, you know,
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as opposed to these belligerent midlife crisis men that are
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just so cynical that just laugh at suicide jokes like
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where is the where's the normal person?
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Line?
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But as far as like structuring a joke, and then
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I would also say, depending on where you go or
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your open.
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Mics also helps a lot.
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True the extent that you can diversify your open mic,
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that would be good.
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That's true. That's true. There there's a lot to that.
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Yeah, But yes, there's a whole bunch.
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I think to every career that is an education piece
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and then the actual practical piece and then the behind
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the scenes pieces are all pretty different.
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It feels like very different careers.
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Now, when you watched when you were in law school,
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did you ever watch like legal drama shows or did
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you not? Like I'm avoiding that, I.
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Mean I did.
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Yeah, you know, Law and Order was a wonderful series
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that I watched before going to law school. Didn't ever
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really have time to get into it after law school.
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Suits came out while I was in law school and
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they're now rebooting it as Suits LA, and that.
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Was interesting, but it was also.
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Very triggering, Yeah, because you're spending all this time for
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those who don't know suits. At least the original was
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about this kid who was basically a savant when it
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came to standardized testing, in particular the ELSAT and the
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bar exam, and so he basically just forged his way.
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He would take these exams, but he never went to
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law school and never really studied for the bar through
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the traditional means, so he wasn't eligible to sit for
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the bar, but he aced it. All of that I
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find so triggering, you know, because it's like so hard
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for most people to sit get into law school one
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and then two get passed by the bar exam.
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So I did watch it. I did enjoy it.
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I had quite a few people, but at that aspect
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was triggering. I had some people tell me, oh, you
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got to check out Boston Legal, and I could not
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do Boston Legal it. I found it so awful to watch,
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just did not like it. Pay Purchase is an oldie,
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but a goodie if anybody's interested in like older legal shows.
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Pay per Chase is actually about a group of guys
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in law school, and it's fascinating.
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There's also just you know, there's also a new I
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think it's called is this Thing On? I think that's
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the name of it. Yeah, there's a new stand up
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comedy movie called Is This Thing On? With Will Arnett
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as he plays like an old guy who goes through
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midlife prices and starts stand up. I watched the trailer.
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I watched the trailer and I did not I did
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not like it, especially because he's going up at the
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cellar where they don't have an open mic, like but
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they do do it like that. I'm like, are you
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kidding me? At least get your stuff straight, you know,
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at least get certain things right of knowing, like, hey,
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this is where you can go for an open mic.
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This is where you do not go for an open mic.
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Yeah.
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Well, and to be honest, most of the open mic
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stuff is just not fit for TV or movies or
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consumption in any way, so you have to manufacture it.
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Fascinating. I mean, I like lue Larnette, I would have
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to check this out it.
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You know what bothers me about movies and shows like this,
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I will say the same thing for Marvelous Missus MASL
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cannot handle that show. Really, it's out there that love it.
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I love it.
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I hate it, And.
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My problem with it is this, I don't know if
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Will Arnett has ever done stand upright, I can tell
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you the woman who does Marvelous, Missus Masel has never
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done stand up in her life.
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And there are so many great male and female stand
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ups that could have done these roles and really brought
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a genuine perspective to the project, and they've been overlooked.
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And you can tell, you know, you can tell. So
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there are certain shows.
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I'm sure doctors out there watching Er or Gray's Anatome
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would be like that not happens.
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That's the way it is.
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I feel that same way about some of the stuff
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that I've watched with law, some of the stuff with
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stand up. It's really a bummer.
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I think. I think pe Holmes Crashing is probably the
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best version of stand up because it's written by stand ups,
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it's war by stand ups. Everybody in there is a
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stand up like I feel like that really absolutely.
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Crashing is that everything happens too fast.
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Yes, yes, which is.
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Course obviously it's gonna happen too fast. No one's going
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to watch a show where ten years is this guy
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in open mics. No one's gonna watch that. No, that
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that's real life, you know.
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to it, he is when the show begins, he's already
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been doing stand up and open mics for like a
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couple of years. So it's not like he's just starting.
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It isn't.
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this is when everybody kind of existed, you know, I
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guess I I yeah, you just come with your own
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preconceived notions about like, oll he must have just begun,
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you know, But.
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Yes, I love crashing.
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Crashing is fantastic, best thing Pete Holmes has done, to
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be honest anyway, So yes, I'm I'm gonna have to
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check out this thing with Will Arnett because I like
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him so much.
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But I'm gonna probably be frustrated.
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that she does her stand up things and it's like
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not written by stand ups and not performed by a
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stand up and it screams of just being so contrived.
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They did have they did, but they did have comedy
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writers work on that show. If I remember right, uh,
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if I.
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Forgot at the beginning, I feel like, I mean, let
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Know there were like there were some like comedians who
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did actually like go and and end up like you know,
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doing writing and stuff like that. I'm pretty sure Alex
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Borstein was did do sub stand up as well. Who
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is who is Susie? Who was her like current manager
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and stuff. But I'm pretty sure there were like writers
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who were comedians that did help right on that show
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as well. If I remember.
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There might there might have been. You know, it's.
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But also it's also takes place at the beginning of
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what we consider the age of stand up right like
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where You're You're they're getting Lenny Lenny Bruce comes in
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at one point stuff, so like the Aborsch Belt stuff.
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So it's still at the very early stages of what
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stand up was, and so they forgive it for a
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little bit of being not what you would see today.
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If you made that, you couldn't If you made this
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show today, it would definitely you would definitely have to
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have way more stand up writers involved in this show.
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My My issue though, is that you watch you want,
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like take any stand up that you can find on YouTube,
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no matter how old they are, there is a certain
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comfort and presence on stage that they possess. She doesn't
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have it, and they don't capture it in the show
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the actress who's marvelous missus masl they just don't ever get.
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It for it and is Lois Lane and Superman two?
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Oh wow?
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And for me that was an immediate I can't do this.
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It's too much of a suspension of disbelief where it's like, oh, yeah,
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she'd be a great stand up No she's not.
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She's not. It's just it's not there and you can
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find it.
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The Big Sick is a great example of a movie
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about a stand up comedian written done by a guy
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who has done stand up comedy, and you can tell
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it feels organic.
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Yeah, is that the the one by uh, what's the
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name N Johnny or whatever was his last name? Yeah, yeah,
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Camilo N Johnny.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's amazing.
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About his life, you know, it's about his life and
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his wife and and it's it's fantastically well done and
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you can tell, you know, you can just tell he
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has he's done stand up in real life. He has
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that demeanor about him. And whoever they got I don't
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know what her name is.
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Jen Kirkman. Is that who plays?
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I'll look it up. I'll pull a Jamie.
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Who is that? Look it up?
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Jamie?
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Uh, Rachel abors bors Man, I don't know, Rachel, Rachel.
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There you go, sorry, Rachel.
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Yeah, she she has no stand up experience and it
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screams it just it's that you and I couldn't.
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I could not do it.
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But she was a great She's a great. Lowis Lane
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in the New Superman movies. I believe it.
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I can believe that, like a reporter or whatever it
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is Lewis Lane did in real you know in the
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Superman comics.
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Great, great, But you're not pulling off stand up. You can't.
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That's something that is. You can't do it. She couldn't
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do it.
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Yeah, if you had to, if you had to make
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a movie about stand up, what do you think you're
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the basis of that story would be like what do
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you think? Are you starting from the open mic portion
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or are you going to somebody who's middle of their
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career and struggling, or like what's what are you? What
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do you think about it? Oh?
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Like, what's the most what's the most television worthy portion
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of that career.
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To me, like, you don't really make a movie about
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stand up, you know, Crashing and The Big Sick weren't
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about stand out right. It was really about a guy
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going through a portion of his life. He just happened
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to do stand up, right, And I think that's the
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way you tell the story.
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So I'd be more interested.
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In, you know, a ah, a career shift or a
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milestone or or something like that, but it has to
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do with stand up.
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You know.
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The story that I've been contemplating for a while is
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basically a stand up who gets caught up and organized
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crime as a front business for the mob.
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So he's he's.
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Basically laundering money because it's a cash heavy business and
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it's almost impossible to bookkeep for and it's stand up,
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so generally it's kind of not making millions of dollars.
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So it might be a good front for a mob business,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, But that would just
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involve a little bit of stand up. It wouldn't be
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about stand up necessarily. I think if you're going to
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tell him move or have a movie about stand up,
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it's got to be about the cusp between open mics
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to actual career gigs.
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Have I told you the one that that I thought
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of it. It's called touring and it's about It's about
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a comedian who who kind of comes from a broken home,
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doesn't have a lot of like male like, you know,
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doesn't have anyone to really look up to. So a
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bigger name comedian takes him under his wing as he's
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the opener for him. And that guy is that like
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gone through divorces, lost his kids, doesn't really have anybody,
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is kind of like a lone wolf and kind of
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not not a good person either to deal with really
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kind of like bitter and old and tired or whatever.
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But funny people like Adam Sandler from Funny People.
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Uh oh, okay, go ahead, go ahead, sorry bro, like.
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From Adam Sandler from Funny People.
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That kind of like kind of more of a jerk
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a little.
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Bit, but okay.
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So then he goes onto like his day have the
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same manager. The manager says, look, take this young guy
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on tour with you. This guy, he you know, you
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need to break him in. He's got it, he doesn't
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have the experience yet, and I I need to get
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him booked and this will help me so I can
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book you for more stuff too, you know, and the
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and so they kind of don't start out not really
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liking each other and not really enjoying the road together.
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They you know, the older comic has all his own
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habits and stuff that he's used to doing. The new
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comics is trying to like get his get his career going.
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And the fight that they have as they go through it,
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and the bonds, the ups and downs and all those things.
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So it's a backdrop for like a like a buddy
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comedy kind of, but also stand Up as the main
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motivator of that. So you'll see stand Up, but you'll
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see a lot of like what happens on the road.
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You're eating in a cruddy diner, you're you know, you're
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flat tire, you sleep in a gross motel, you get
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stiffed at a gig, you know, all these things that
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happened and and you know that kind of stuff. And
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I thought it would be kind of a good look
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and a lot of comedians would go, yeah, that's what
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happens on the road is, you know. And so I
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want to call it the Road. But there's already a
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book and a movie called that or whatever, and it's
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not you can't you.
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Know, And it's not about stand up, it's not about no.
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It's that that Vigo Mortensen movie where like it like snows.
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Oh, he's like stranded or whatever.
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He's like wandering to like try to make it to
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the coast with and like there's like cannibals and whatever
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and stuff. It's like a much weird movie. It's based
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on a boat.
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Sure interesting, So you can't get that.
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I can't use that. It's a Cormick McCarthy book. It's
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like an old walk across like a post apocalyptic landscape thing.
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It's pretty good, but you can't use the road. So
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touring was the other one I thought of, because that's
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kind of what you're doing right when you're on tour.
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You're doing this place. And the lucky the cool thing
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is I've got to experience that with multiple different headliners,
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So for me, I have this other look of seeing
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it in all the different facets good, bad, otherwise. And
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so I think it's something I really, I really am
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going to end up writing eventually. It just is on
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the back burner from all the other stuff that I'm doing.
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But I love that idea because I think a lot
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of comedians don't understand how hard the road actually is,
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how hard touring actually can be. Right, Yeah, just you
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travel for all this time to go to a hotel
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room where you wait there until you go to your show,
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You do the show, and then you go back to
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your hotel room to go do it all over again,
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to fly back home. And it's not glamorous, it's not fun.
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It's it's I can see why people could end up
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getting into drugs, alcohol or otherwise, right, because it's a
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lot of time alone. And even if you hang out
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with the other comedian, sometimes you get annoyed with each other,
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like you want you get to a point where you're like,
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forget you, I don't want to hang out with you
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right now. You're you know whatever. You know, It's just
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that's just the way it is. It's like being in
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a relationship or a marriage.
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You know.
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Sometimes you get annoyed with your spouse, you get annoyed
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with your kids, you know, with your family, and you go, ah,
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leave me alone, you know, or whatever. Like So it's
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very very interesting to think about that and kind of
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put it in a in a spot where you go, Okay,
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this is what's what's going on, you know, and maybe
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for with the story that I had, maybe at the
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end of it, maybe we start that headliner is it's
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kind of at the end of this career, like he's
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not doing the big shows anymore. He's getting booked to
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like B clubs and and kind of like low hanging things.
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We're like, yeah, he has a recognized name, but like
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nobody's paying big money to come see him. So he's
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not doing theaters or arenas. He's doing small theaters or
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small clubs or small venues. And so it's just the
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fight that comes with that as well. And it's kind
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of thing and whereas the other kid, the you know,
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the new comedian is trying to build a brand across
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the country as he's touring trying to move up, and
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the other one, so they're kind of cross crisscrossing their paths.
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And I think it's a good story.
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Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think it's a great idea. Yeah,
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I mean, you know, arguably that's this. I think it's.
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What you don't You don't really do a movie about
490
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a career, right, that's a documentary, right, So I think
491
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:05.680
having this kind of like buddy cop motif is a
492
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:07.599
is a great one because you're really just looking at
493
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.519
these two characters. They just happen to do stand up,
494
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:12.519
So it's kind of a unique lens.
495
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.680
Anyhow, Yeah, fascinating. I love it. I love the idea.
496
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.279
Yeah. I always also wanted to do and I think
497
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.400
I have talked about it on the podcast before an
498
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:29.160
improv a three on three improv Chustipher guest style documentary.
499
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:29.519
Movie to do that too.
500
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.359
I know, that's like for me, that's like the dream.
501
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.160
I love those kind of movies. I think mocumentaries are
502
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.599
so much fun. I think they're so silly and unique.
503
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.160
And the amount of people that we know as comedians
504
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.559
that could also do improv is huge, right, The amount
505
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:45.559
of people you could have in that movie, you know,
506
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.240
the great comedians you could get to come do things
507
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:48.799
you know.
508
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:53.400
Well, and you know, admittedly improv and stand up are different,
509
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.759
but there's most stand ups have done improv at one point, yes,
510
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.640
in time, at least in l I don't know how
511
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.000
it is in New York or Chicago. I can't imagine
512
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.519
it being different in Chicago.
513
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:06.640
Yeah, especially because that's a home of good press.
514
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.880
New York they're the purists who are kind of like,
515
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:11.799
you know, I've only done stand up because that's the
516
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:16.960
only real art form and vice versa. So anyhow, Yeah,
517
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:19.240
I would love to get something together. That's one thing
518
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:23.680
that I hate actually about Hollywood. My idea for this
519
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.319
Christopher Guest film that I wanted to do for a
520
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:31.160
while is about a guy whose wife passes away and
521
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:33.440
he is desperate to get back in touch with her,
522
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.839
so he hires these ghost hunters to come and analyze
523
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.279
his house because he's convinced that his wife is there.
524
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.079
And basically throughout the film you realize she's probably not.
525
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.839
It's mostly us that hold on to the dead. And
526
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.079
then I realized that's Casper. They already made that, so
527
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:53.240
that kind of sucks.
528
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.279
Wait, wait, as long as the wife comes to life
529
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.519
and becomes a real woman again and kisses him, then.
530
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.240
So that that would not happen. It would be a
531
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.960
depressing Casper, is what it would be. You know, I
532
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:07.400
would just.
533
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.279
Forget that that's what happens at the other Casper. By
534
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.599
the way, somebody had to remind me that because and
535
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.400
kisses her at the end of at the end of
536
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:14.920
the movie.
537
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well them also shows up, you know,
538
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the wife shows The wife shows up and kind of
539
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.160
has this moment with Bill Pullman, and then yeah, Casper
540
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:28.160
becomes whoever the heart throb was of the late nineties,
541
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.319
who was in Little Giants, whoever that guy.
542
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.880
Was, Yeah, I don't remember his name either.
543
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.720
And then kisses the female actress in that movie and
544
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:37.799
then dies again.
545
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:42.559
Basically that's so wild. And then a second or third
546
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:43.920
Casper too, if I remember.
547
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.839
Right, I mean they might have, so mine would be
548
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.920
a little different in that way, so I probably could
549
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.279
still make it, But the heart of the story is like, man,
550
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.119
they already did it, and they kind of ruined it
551
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:54.839
to be honest, you know.
552
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.279
But I think making fun of the ghost hunter thing
553
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.200
is such a good thing because it's such a I think.
554
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.200
It's right, yeah, it's or you know, it would be
555
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.519
great so that maybe maybe one day that's kind of
556
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.599
one of my back burner projects as well as to
557
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.039
get something like that together and do it for fun.
558
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.200
But that's pretty cool, I think. I think there's a
559
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.640
lot of things that we as comedians think about and
560
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.640
write down and then they can't be jokes, so you
561
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.839
have to figure out how can I make them something else,
562
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.720
how can I yeah something, yeah, that is still well.
563
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.279
I mean, in essence, it is a joke, you know,
564
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.599
but it's like, how does this joke live? Does it
565
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.559
live as a as a stand up yuck?
566
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.640
Yuck? Or is it a sketch? Is it a movie?
567
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:39.839
What is it? What is this thing?
568
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.799
Can I ask you something? Have you seen the new
569
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:43.720
Naked Gun movie?
570
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:45.200
I have not?
571
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.960
Okay, so my kids have never seen things.
572
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:48.880
Though it's great.
573
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.039
My kids have never seen a naked gun movie. Ever.
574
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:53.079
I didn't show them any of the og ones. So
575
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.400
there are some of the jokes. But my youngest daughter
576
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.279
walked out of there and goes, I don't even know
577
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.960
what I just watched. And I was like, you just
578
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.599
watched a comedy. Like these comedies were very popular back
579
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.000
in the day. You had Airplane and Naked Gun hot Shots,
580
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.799
Robin Hoood, mend Insights. They're all inside jokes on whatever
581
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:16.480
the topic of it was, and silly play and that
582
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.079
kind of stuff. And my youngest daughter goes, yeah, I
583
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:24.799
don't like that, and I go, okay, I almost thought
584
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.000
it was like it was funny, you know whatever. It
585
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.000
was not my thing, but it was funny.
586
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so funny.
587
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:33.960
Oh my gosh, it's wild to see you now. My
588
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.160
oldest one. I asked to show her ace vent Tura.
589
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.680
Now she does never wants to see a Jim Carrey
590
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:39.200
movie again.
591
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.319
Ever, what hilarious?
592
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.119
I know, I know, but I think because the age
593
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.079
we saw the man, I wonder if there's a correlation
594
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.640
to what your comedic taste is based on the age
595
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.759
that you saw something comedic, right, because you need a
596
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.680
probably around ten or eleven when we saw ace vent
597
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.160
Turas somewhere in that time frame, maybe thirteen at the latest,
598
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.200
and that kind of that's the humor right for that
599
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:02.759
age group.
600
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.240
Yeah, I will say though, yes, yes, I feel like
601
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the same way.
602
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:08.640
I guess.
603
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.119
Initially I thought your your stance was kind of like
604
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.119
what kind of comedian you become.
605
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:15.599
Based on what you watch?
606
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.920
And I was gonna say, neither of us is really
607
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.759
that that goofy you know, Jim Carrey is a very
608
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.279
physically goofy guy. I'm I can't do that, but I
609
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.480
still love the movie. A s Ventura, dumb and dumber,
610
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:34.480
you know, all that stuff my favorite. I I do
611
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.640
think there is a time and place for all of
612
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:42.200
these comedies in a way and some age better or age, yeah,
613
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.240
age better than others.
614
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:45.599
Monty Python, I think holds up no matter what age
615
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:46.240
you watch it at.
616
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.720
It's it's pretty amazing the way that they did Monty Python,
617
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.599
all of like the TV show, the whole thing. I mean,
618
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.519
their most famous at least in America for Holy Grail
619
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.319
and that that holds up incredibly well. Aceventura is yeah,
620
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.440
prime teenage boy, that is. I mean, as the kids say, now,
621
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.880
Chef's kiss of that age group, dumb and dumber, same thing.
622
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.079
And I can see girls not liking it.
623
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.160
Yeah, it's not a girl movie, you know.
624
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.920
And I think it's funny that we've movies aren't made
625
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.720
like that anymore.
626
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:23.720
There aren't really.
627
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:30.240
Movies made for boys and made for girls any longer,
628
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:30.839
you know.
629
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.759
Yeah, Like I watched Freaky Friday and I didn't feel
630
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.920
like it was made geared more towards girls, even though
631
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.039
the main cast is female. I didn't feel like it
632
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.079
was really well.
633
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.559
And also, I mean, why why are we remaking that
634
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:43.839
that was?
635
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:45.839
It was good? Did you see Freaky Friday good?
636
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:47.119
I haven't seen it at all.
637
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.640
I mean I said a Freaky Friday back when, you know,
638
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:55.720
back before. But Okay, all right, so maybe it's worth
639
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.359
another Maybe it's worth a watch this Freaky Er Friday.
640
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.880
I liked it. I liked it. There were comedies coming
641
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.200
back that we're getting more comedy movies. There's the new
642
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.039
the new Seth Rogan Disease, an sorry movie. It's called
643
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.119
good Something, where they switch places. Disease become with poor,
644
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.519
it becomes rich and seth Rogans from being rich and
645
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.720
being poor. And it's done through an angel. I think
646
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:20.119
it's called like good not good omens good Something. I
647
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.240
don't know what is, but anywhere.
648
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.759
Good fortune, Oh yeah, with Cony Reeves.
649
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.559
Reeves says an angel. Right, and that right there is
650
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.319
the kind of comedies that I missed. That's a silly
651
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.319
idea that they, you know, they put together, and you
652
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.000
know that it's gonna be funny because you're getting the
653
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.079
polar opposite switch. You're getting the you know, the the
654
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:47.960
old school you know, like Brewster's Millions or what's Eddie
655
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.519
Murphy Trading places with any like that kind of you're
656
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.799
getting those kind of vibes from that, And for me,
657
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.920
that's a great kind of film. And when's the last
658
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.599
time we got a jud Apatow movie, right, you know
659
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.359
what I'm saying, Like, that's something I want to see
660
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.960
you again too, that we haven't gotten in a long time.
661
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.640
Sure, I mean, I'm trying to think about the most
662
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.200
recent Jet Appletown movie.
663
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.680
What was that?
664
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:12.920
I have no idea.
665
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.920
Yeah, I couldn't even tell you. I want to say
666
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:18.599
it was. I want to say it was funny people,
667
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:19.640
but that might be wrong.
668
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.480
The bubble was the bubble by Jet Apple Town?
669
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.759
Oh? Is that the one where they did they did
670
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:27.119
like they all were.
671
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.079
The King of Staten Island.
672
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.359
Yeah, that's but that was That was a while ago.
673
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.519
I thought, Yeah, that was twenty twenty, The Zendars of
674
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:36.599
Gary Shandling.
675
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.839
That was. That's a documentary. That's fine. Yeah, the Bubble.
676
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.720
I don't think I watched the Bubble, but it's like nine.
677
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.480
He then did This Is forty train Wrack. I didn't
678
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:48.440
see either of those.
679
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.599
I love This Is forty. I love I love funny people.
680
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.400
I love like Pineapple Express, super Bad, like a lot
681
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.319
of those movies. Died forty Oero Versions is probably my
682
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.799
favorite though. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know like that that
683
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.039
might be my favorite movie of his of all time
684
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.039
because it's just it's just such a wild film where
685
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.400
they're just like, okay.
686
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.319
Yeah, you know.
687
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.359
So I guess he's doing a lot more documentaries now.
688
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.920
I think he's done a lot more documentaries. Yeah.
689
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.119
I think that's where he's going in his career, which
690
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.559
sucks because you know, if we get freaking came back
691
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.599
at some point, that'll be great.
692
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.480
Oh Man, Bob and Donna love story. What is that?
693
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.240
I don't know what that is. Oh I did watch
694
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.200
the Police Don't Destroy movie that he made. That was
695
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.680
that was really good. Actually, I think he was just
696
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.119
a producer on it there or something, but it's still good.
697
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.759
But yeah, so we're not seeing we're not seeing a
698
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.279
lot of stuff like that anymore, and I think that's
699
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.599
that's kind of something we need to get back. Although
700
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:55.640
what's funny is because Naked gunn came back, Netflix has
701
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.559
hot Shots and hot Shots hot Shots Part do on
702
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.359
on Netflix, which I'm right, because it's that kind of comedy,
703
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.599
you know, it's it's a parody of something that was
704
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.519
popular at the time, right, And so we're getting that
705
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.079
kind of silly nostalgia back, which hopefully means if Naked
706
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.039
Gun does well, they'll make a couple more of these
707
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.199
or they'll allow for these these other kinds of movies
708
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.519
to be made like that that are just silly and weird.
709
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.400
There's an old movie I don't know if you've ever
710
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:26.079
seen it, called the Kentucky Fried Movie, and what it is,
711
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.400
it's short clips of different things. It's like it's like
712
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.440
you're watching a television station. There's different things like a
713
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.159
news portion and a commercial and a fake movie heat
714
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.840
trailer and like all these things, and it's it's just,
715
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.559
you know, it is rated art is a little dirty
716
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:43.960
in some parts or whatever because it's a old seventies movie,
717
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.280
but it's fantastic and hilarious, and like if you liked
718
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.920
Animal House and Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds and
719
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.199
those kind of things, this is right up your same
720
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.760
alley of that kind of stuff. And I really enjoy that.
721
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.119
And I wish somebody I think they did make something
722
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.400
like it back in the day, called like Channel thirteen
723
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.920
or something weird like that. But The Kentucky Fried Movie
724
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.440
is such a fantastic film that people people don't really
725
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.519
watch it enough as anymore. It's a John Landis directed movie.
726
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.960
It's just really funny. David Zucker wrote it and stuff
727
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.400
as well. It's just a really good comedy film. And
728
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.039
they you know, they also did Airplane, Top Secret, Police Squad,
729
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.840
Naked Gun, they did all that, So it's from those
730
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.559
guys who did those kind of movies. So it's in
731
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.639
that vein and gives you kind of a silly, funny
732
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style of film and stuff.
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So yeah, yeah, interesting.
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I think I think we're missing we're missing stuff like that.
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I think we're missing things like that. I think we
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need to bring that back and do so. I got Also,
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I don't know if you know this, but the new
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Naked Gun SETH McFarlane is a producer on it. Oh yeah,
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so it make sense that I was watching and going, oh,
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that makes sense. This is a definitely fits fits his
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style and humor and whatever. And if you go watch
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Family Guy, there's a lot of those silly gag things
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that they do that are very airplane nikky go those
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like that kind of silly offshoot jokes they run through.
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So I think that that probably, you know, helped with
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a lot of like his style of what he wanted
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to do for comedy as as a comedian or as
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a comedy writer back in the day.
749
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
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Four hundred and fifty episodes. I've learned. This is the
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one thing I've learned. Yeah, you just have to be yourself.
752
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You just have to be yourself. There's no other version
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of comedy that's gonna work for you. The one that
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works for you is the one where you're being yourself.
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And I think that's the biggest thing that I took
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away from all these episodes talking to other comedians, learning
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about comedy starting out. I mean, because when I started this,
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I was just starting stand up. I was just starting,
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you know, try to do open mics and starting to
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produce my own shows. And then it slowly I started
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getting booked places and getting paid to do comedy and
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all these things. And now I'm touring with a national headliner.
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And this is the second one I've toured with, third
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one technically that I've toured with that you know, nationally,
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And I've learned so much in that timeframe. You know.
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This This is also and it's only because I've really
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got to focus on law school. This will be my
768
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last year touring. Was a I was gonna stay and
769
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go next year, but it is so hard for me
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to do law school and tour that I really am not.
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I'm not capable of doing both. I want to as
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much as I want to, I really really really want to,
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it's just it's not doable, and it's it's not sustainable
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for me, especially if I want to, you know, get
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through law school pass and get good grades and whatever
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I have. You know, like, you know, could you imagine
777
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you doing law school and trying to do stand up?
778
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No? No, yeah, no, absolutely not.
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Did you have a day job while you went to
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law school or do you only law school?
781
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No? I was just in law school.
782
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Yeah yeah, so yeah, imagine I'm doing all my side stuff,
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podcasting and stand up and a family. It's like, no, dude,
784
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what do you That's wild?
785
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Yeah? Yeah, no, that's crazy. Yeah. No, can't do it.
786
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What have you What have you learned from this? Is
787
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there a big takeaway that you've ever learned from this podcast,
788
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something you've learned from from doing this?
789
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I think I think my biggest takeaway from talking to
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you about clean comedy in particular is that there's there's
791
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always a.
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Way to make money from doing clean comedy.
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Uh, you kind of have to get out there a
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little bit, you have to really you know, work for it,
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but there is a way to do it, and I've
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found that pretty hopeful. Yeah, I think that's my biggest
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kind of takeaway from this podcast in particular.
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Yeah, it's a viable career option, you know.
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Yeah, And I hope that that's what people have taken
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away from it, that like clean comedy is, it's a
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niche inside of comedy, but it's a niche that can
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make money for you, and it's something that if you
803
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do it well, you can make money in a lot
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of different places where other people aren't tapping that source.
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Where they're not it's outside of a traditional realm that
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is good for you, whether that be writing or producing shows,
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and places that most people aren't going to do it,
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like a retirement home or you know, for a PTA meeting,
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or for I've done like a Jewish holidays. I've done
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backyard gatherings, golf courses, all kinds of stuff, places all
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of the place where if I wasn't clean, those opportunities
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wouldn't have opened up to me. And I think if
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you think outside of the box of like, where's a
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place where if I told jokes and I offended somebody
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it would cause me trouble? That place is probably the
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place that you should go to if you're going to
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do clean comedy, because then you're not going to offend
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anybody and you can make money.
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Doing it, you know, right, Yeah, I.
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Think that there's a lot to be made there. I
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think there's a lot of things that can that can
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come out of being clean. And that doesn't mean you
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have to be clean forever, and that doesn't mean you
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have to all your sets out to be clean. If
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you want to do a mixture of those things, just know,
826
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if you have a clean set, you can open a
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lot of doors and then with that you can do
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a lot of other things. And if you want to
829
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go and be blue and do whatever, you totally can.
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Look at John Moliney, right, everybody started off kind of clean.
831
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John Moliney's new stuff not as clean as it used
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to be, you know, it's not there. But I don't
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see Nate Bergatzi going from being clean to being you know,
834
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a blue comedian. I can't see that happening. That's his
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bread and butter, you know, and that's who he is
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expect So.
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Yeah, I mean I think there's well, and you've talked
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about this a lot on the podcast. You can always
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dirty something up. It is very easy to dirty up
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a joe. It is very hard to clean up a
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joke and make sure it's still funny. Yeah, So if
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you start with the clean version, you can always blue
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it down, and that's not you know, So if you
844
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can start clean, you're better off in the long run.
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I think, yeah, I like that. That that might be
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the final thing that ever gets said on this podcast.
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I think that's, oh my gosh, that's the thing. That's
848
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the thing to remember. You know, you can always dirty
849
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up clean, but if you start clean, that's that's your
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way to green real fast.
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So yeah, yeah, I love it.
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Thank you, Seth, Thank you are ready for listening. We'll
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be back. It's not gonna be the clean comedy podcast.
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Could be something totally different. Don't worry. I'm not gonna
855
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get start going blue, so you don't have to worry
856
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.800
about that. But I think we're gonna find something that's
857
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gonna work for everybody. I want to talk about money,
858
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I want to talk about law, I want to talk
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about history, I want to talk about pop culture. And
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I think there's a space for that and I've just
861
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got to figure out what it is. But I appreciate
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every single person forever listening to this podcast. They're gonna
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stay up forever. By the way, they're never gonna go away.
864
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I'm never gonna delete these and remove them. I want
865
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them to exist forever so that you guys can always
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come back to them and listen and find new stuff.
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And I hope that you've enjoyed all these episodes with me,
868
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with Luke when he was on, with Seth as the
869
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co host, with all the plethora of people that I've
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ever had on this podcast. I'm so grateful for the
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ability to ever be able to do this to a
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point where I have listeners and fans and people that
873
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come to shows and things like that, and honestly, I
874
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.760
can't ask if this was the end of my comedy career,
875
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I would be so grateful. I would feel so grateful
876
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because I've had so many people reach out to me
877
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and just come out to shows and write me and
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just I really really appreciate every single one of you.
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So don't fret. I'm not gone forever. I'll come back.
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It'll be in a different form, but it's gonna be
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fun and I'm looking forward to it. So from the
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last time you'll ever hear me say have a good
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one and we'll talk to you soon Bye.