Talking With Space Force's General Jay Raymond and Astronaut Nick Hague About A Million Things

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Standing by.
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Let's go.
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Here's talking with Thompson Square.
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It's a podcast, so.
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Shauna for.
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I don't even know what to say. I'm so I'm
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so excited about tonight. This is by far, well, this
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is probably good. This is going to be the most
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important podcast we've ever.
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We ever do, or that we'll ever do.
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Yes, it's crazy tonight. It's been an amazing day. We
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We've been getting the house ready and cooking and doing
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a low country boil here for some American heroes. Some
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men and women here are in our house, gracing our house.
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We're very, very blessed to have so many wonderful people
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here in our house today. And one of our great
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friends who it's a very odd scenario how we became friends,
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how we even met, being you know, one of our
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closest friends. And I say that with all sincerity and.
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I don't know, man, it's just this is just it's
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a weird night.
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He needs no introduction.
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Well, we have we got to introduce the guy. He's
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right here across from us.
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We have we have four star General Jay Raymond with
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us tonight from Space Force, and we cannot thank you
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enough for being here. This is incredible.
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Oh it's I'm excited to be here. It's really cool
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and it's great to see again. Thanks for welcoming us
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under your home, and thanks for what you do.
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Man, thank you for what you do. And if you
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guys want to, you guys, can you make a little
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bit of noise if you want to. We have about
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fifteen people in here.
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So yeah, so I have to say thank you for
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showing up because I got so many things done, or
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key forgot so many things done from the honeydo List's
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rephrase that, well, I did a lot to you, but
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there's so many things that I needed to get done.
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So can you just come back and visit like next
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month so we can get that honey dealer anytime.
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I'll tell you it is so good to be with you.
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Well, you know how it is like when you invite
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people over to your house and it's the only time
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you ever clean your house.
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This is that on crack. This is like we're not
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just having a friends over.
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It's like all these these wonderful heroes and servicemen and
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women and then you got a guy with four big
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fancy stars on his collar, and so it was like
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clean the house, rebuild a house, and then she was painting.
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You have any idea how much work you cost me?
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Today?
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I was hanging ceiling fans, she was painting furniture. It
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was absurd the amount of work, but it was all
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worth it. We had to get it done, and that's
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what we should do. Just keep inviting people over so
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we get the house done.
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Yes.
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So this is General J. Raymond.
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And for the people who don't know you, I was
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fascinated the first time that we met, and just just
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the history of your family was astounding to me. My
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dad serving in the army, so did shown his dad.
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Her dad was in Vietnam. But the history, you know,
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kind of started this. Stop to there. Can you tell
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us to tell our listeners the history of how you
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became I mean, how do you become a four star
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general is insane to me anyway, but then to become
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a multi generational family of generals is just unheard up
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to me.
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Yeah. So I grew up in a military family. My
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great great grandfather, my grandfather, I'm sorry, my great great grandfather,
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my great grandfather, my grandfather, and my dad all served
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in the army and they all went to West Point,
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and so I knew I wanted a life of service,
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and I knew I liked that lifestyle. I liked how
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I grew up. I liked being able to live in
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places all over the world, and I liked belonging to
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something that was bigger than myself, and so I knew
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I wanted to serve. A lot of people have asked
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me why did I go into the Air Force when
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I had a whole history of the Army, And I
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jokeingly say, because I grew up in the Army. That's
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really though. I went to Clemson University in South Carolina,
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and when I went there, there was a great ROTC program.
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There was a spectacular Air Force ROTC program. It gave
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me an opportunity to serve, and I just fell in
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love with it. And I've been very, very lucky. I'm
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not a hero by any means. I'm privileged to serve
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with a lot of heroes and a lot of people
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that that have They want to be belonged. I want
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to belong to somebody, something bigger than themselves and serve
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their country. And I'm really lucky they have had an
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opportunity to serve for thirty seven years now and work
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with some really impressive Americans that are doing great things
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for a country.
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Wow. So what does it take though, to become a general?
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Does everyone?
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Because I'm sure that everyone that goes into the armedforces,
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well not everybody, but a lot of people have the
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aspiration to go up into the ranks and to get
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a better classification.
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But you're the top.
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So I you know, a lot of people ask me that,
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and I never I never thought i'd be a general.
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And I think if you if you started from the
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beginning and thought you were going to be a general,
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you probably wouldn't. My view is you kind of grow
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where you're planet and you just take it one job
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at a time, and you know, I mean, you're a
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second lieutenant, you're the best second lieutenant doing the job
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that you do, and then you get promoted again and
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you just keep trying to do the best job that
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you can. And if you're lucky like me, you get
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surrounded with great people, great people and great leaders, and
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then being a good person and working hard and really
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caring about what you do, being excited about what you do.
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Just like you have passion for music. It comes across
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every time I'm with you. I just feel the passion
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that you have for music. Yeah, well I have that
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same passion serving with the folks that on privileged to
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serve with, with serving in our country. And if you have
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that passion and you're lucky and you're in the right
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place at the right time, and you work hard and
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you're a good person, good things happen.
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So obviously we've been talking about you in our other
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podcast because we've been so excited that you're going to
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come and talk to us, and we posted on Facebook,
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you know, for anyone who would like to ask you
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a question, and I have since we're talking about this
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right now about coming up through the ranks, someone asked
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Kat Jergs. I hope that's the correct pronunciation of her
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name or his name. They wanted you to explain the
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bars that you have on your dress uniform and have
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the photo here so I can show it to you.
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So the ribbons, they said, can you explain a few
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and maybe why you got them and which one is
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the most significant to you.
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You know that the the ribbons that we wear, you
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get them for all kinds of different reasons, and you know,
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some get them for doing very heroic acts. That's not me.
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I haven't gotten I have not been awarded a ribbon
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for a heroic act. Largely, what you get, what you
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get awarded or ribbon for is in my in my case,
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is serving in positions of importance in doing a good job.
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And so there's I think probably the first ribbon I
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ever got, the very bottom ribbon. If you're looking at
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the picture to be the bottom right, hopefully this is a.
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Is that your newest.
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Yeah, that's the one.
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Very the very first ribbon is probably the ribbon that
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means the most to me because it is the first one,
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and it meant that I I was trained to serve
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in the military, and that's what that's what I always
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wanted to do. I wanted to be I wanted to
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serve in the military. I wanted to follow my family's footsteps.
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And to have the privilege of being able to do that,
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you know, it's a real privilege to serve. It's not
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it's not a it's a real privilege. And to know
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that I had gone through college, I went through an
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RC program, and then I was commissioned thirty seven years
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ago on eleventh of May. And to have the privilege
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to serve that ribbon means something to me because it
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means that I have the opportunity to follow what my
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family did.
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It's it's weird to me because you're so accessible and approachable,
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at least to civilians. It might be a different situation,
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but it's it's it's it's it's weird to see to me.
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It kind of caught us off guard the first time
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we started hanging out, and then we went to Tuley,
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Greenland and we did all these things.
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And you expect a.
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High ranking military person to be very callous and hard
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on the exterior and I find that to be completely
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the opposite in your case, and I just thought that
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was refreshing. Now everyone else might be like, oh my gosh,
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he's brutal, you know, I don't think I don't think that,
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but doubt to me that was very to be able
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to balance, Hey, I don't have to be over the top,
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you know, drill sergeant type person to be able to
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be effective and in respect, Like when we flew into
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we we took a trip to to the air base
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with General Raymond and it was one of the highlights
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of our life. It was one of the coldest highlights
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of our life. Volar bears and you know all that
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about it. I did, yeah, I mean, we'll get back,
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we'll get to that later. But it was it was
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the amount of because we've never been around military personnel.
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Really, We've we've played a lot of basses, but typically
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we're just kind of in our own little bubble. We'll
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get to the base and we'll set our instruments up
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and things like that. So this that was the first
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time that we really hung out.
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But like when the when the the jet landed and
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we go into the hangar, I'm sorry, but it's humming
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is driving me nets.
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I'm sorry about that.
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But we go into the hangar and then you flick
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the the shutters on the plane. Everyone's at attention. You
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flicked the shutters on the plane, everybody goes at ease,
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and I was just like, that's just cool.
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Yeah, that's pretty rock starting.
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It was cool.
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Again that I'm really lucky. We've got spectacular people that
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have volunteered to serve our country and that the place
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that you want. And I'm very grateful for you and
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Shauna coming up because he's he came up right right
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at Thanksgiving time. In fact, we took off the day
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before Thanksgiving. And what I really liked and what was
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what really impressed me about the both of you is
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you know, you could have gone up there, sat in
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your room, and then come out and did your show,
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and then we got back on a plane left. That
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wasn't you. You spent the entire day crawling all over
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that base, and bit started running away from running right
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from Poverts, seven hundred miles north of the Arctic Circle,
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with about three or four hundred folks that are there
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away from their families, doing really important work for our nation.
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That's the they operate two things there. They operate a
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big radar. It's the first radar that would detect any
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kind of threat coming into North America. And they're away
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from their families for a year doing this in a
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very remote environment. The other thing that they operate are
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is a command and control station to send commands to
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satellites as the satellites fly over the poles, flies flies
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over the north orbits over the North Pole. And so
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they're away from their home, they're in a very remote area.
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It's it's kind of a harsh condition you have to
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experience that. But you spent the entire time there, and
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you from the second that we got there, you interacted
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with all of our airman And to this day I
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hear from people that said I was there when you
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brought Thompson Square up there, and the kindness that you
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that you showed to all of us really really meant
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a lot to them. I remember the very first thing
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we did. We went got off the plane and we
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went to an ice cave, called it the Ice Cave,
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and it's a game room, and you put pulled out
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a guitar and you sang a song and you were
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and not only did you sing the song though you
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told the story about the song, and you talked about, uh,
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you know, you you were and don't I'm going to
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get this wrong, probably, but you were, you know, working
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with a pickle jar, you know, for tips on down
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on on broadways, pretty spot on that and U. And
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then you talked about, you know, you didn't give up,
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and you were persistent and you kept uh you know,
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and you were kind of at what's end and told Sean, hey,
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doing this. And I remember you telling that story, and
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it was a message to to our to our airman,
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hey be persistent. If you care about something, keep at it.
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And and it was a great message here and for
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so from that minute until we got back on a
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plane and took off, the kindness that you showed and
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the respect that you showed from them meant a lot
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to us, and it surely meant a lot to me.
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Well, I appreciate that it was weird. As soon as
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we landed, they were like, hey, there's a polar bear
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on bass.
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Well we almost didn't land.
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flying into a place where it's it's dark twenty four
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hours a day, or it's light twenty four hours a day,
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and there's a little bit of in between there, but
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for the most part, that's your two extremes. And we
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get there, it's twenty seven below and looking out the
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window it's just nothing but ice for hours going in
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and we get ready to land, and we kept circling,
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kept circling.
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We're like, what's going on here?
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We started landing, and then we took off again and
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I was like, something's this is a little odd, right,
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and then go in.
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Yeah, this plane is a little gippy. You know, maybe
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we should have went with the five star. I don't
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know six star seven? Is there a seven star plane?
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Because this one's kind of gippy?
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Uh, you know.
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It wasn't a prop or anything.
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and we were banking in front of the tower and
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trying to get them to look at it.
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thank you for this.
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But I remember the line of the whole wall trip.
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He forgets off the plane, The group commander meets us. Hey,
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it's how cold was below zero? It's bits dark. Welcome
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to Tooley. It's twenty seven below. You're not going to
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see the sunlight while you're here. There's a polar bear.
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We saw some polar bear footprints, so you might have
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to get locked in your room. And but welcome to Tooley.
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And the first thing you told me was general, I
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had kissed the ground up. My lips didn't stick to it.
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That would have been my luck. Though, my lips bring
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up the hot water kettle and I could just sing
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with it.
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But I tell you, Nick Jaggers.
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Were you were out polar bear hunting though, and you
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you got pictures of some pretty significant put prints.
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Yeah, we saw where it went off into the water
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and where it was hunting and everything.
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It was. It was crazy.
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That was really cool.
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Yeah, that was awesome.
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So speaking of this too since we're talking about the
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Tooley thing, So Touley we did a show there and
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it was a lot of fun at the toe.
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At the Toe there was the bar there. It's a place.
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This is a place where you have to go, is
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that right? Or you don't have to stay for a
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year if you go. No, it's a you lose a bat,
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you go to Lee.
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No, not at all.
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It's potatoes cling the toilets or go tot tu Lee.
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Which one you want to do? Which way?
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It's actually a great place to go. It's awesome, and it's.
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It's a beautiful place, but it's it's cold as hell.
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It's cold. It's it's a really critical place for the
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security of our nation extremely and and we have those
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those radars that you got to visit spread out across
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the globe, and again they're they're the they're providing that
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unblinking eye, if you will, for for any kind of
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threats that come that would come into North America. Tully
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Greenland obviously is the furthest North and may be the
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first to detect it on on radar. We also have
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satellites in space that do that same mission. But between
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those the ground radars and the and the satellites that
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we have in space, we're providing that unblinking eye for
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for our nation to It's a really critical place. It's
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really a great place for young people to go because
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it's a it's a small place. They get they have
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jobs that are much higher in responsibility than they would
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if they were at a large base back at home,
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where there's a lot of a lot of airman and
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so it's a great place to start your career. You
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get a lot of leadership opportunities very early, and you
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get it's a very tight knit community. When when you're
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away from your families, and especially in a remote environment,
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the bond of the team gets really really close.
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Get close quick. Probably it was it was impressive. We
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walked into this one area where there's a radar that's
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communicating with these satellites coming through at fifteen thousand, five
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hundred miles an hour seventeen thousand whatever is.
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Fifteen thousand, five seventeen five seventeen.
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Dang it missed by two thousands.
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We tried to pay attention to the briefings. It was
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a lot of info.
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If you're going less than seventeen thousand, five hundred miles
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an hour, satellites will fall into back to Earth and
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so you have to go that fast just to stay orbit. Wow.
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Well we so we saw this bradar was communicating with
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these satellites as that were coming across, and it's just crazy.
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This the technology there was just it was an amazing thing.
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Yeah, there's a there's a an antenna there that is
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what you what you're talking about. There's an antenna that
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sends signals to satellite. So the way we operate satellites
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is that we we send commands to them. And when
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there's a satellite in a polar orbit, that's a satellite
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that goes over the North pole and then over the
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South pole and at orbits that way, it's about a
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ninety minute orbit from the time because it's going so fast,
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it takes about ninety minutes to do one lap around
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the one lap aer on the Earth. Because Tulli is
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so far north, it's the perfect spot to have a
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command center or an antenna to send commands to satellites
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in that polar orbit. And so it's a really critical
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asset for that.
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So we saw we went through a couple of scenarios
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where so if we can get serious just for a second,
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because I know there's a lot of people out there
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in the world that as soon as they created space Force,
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the jokes ensued and it was like no one took
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it serious, and why do we need space Force? And
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it was everyone looked at it like a Hollywood thing,
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you know, which a if you know if you know
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General Raymond, you know, you would see an integrity and
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you would never have that question again. On top of that,
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if you went to Greenland, just to one place and
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saw what we saw and.
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The seriousness of the situation.
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We went through mock missile launches, and so anywhere in
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the world people are like, why don't we need space force?
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Why don't we fix our roads?
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And why don't we you know, why don't we do
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this and this and this, and and you see a
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lot of social media makes a lot of brave people,
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and it's a lot of it's not stupid, it's ignorant.
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And ignorant means not educated in a certain thing. And
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I see a lot of ignorance, just people just blasting
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the administrations and everything else about space force is space
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force and you want this, we need this, And I
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wish what would you tell our listeners and the American
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people that aren't educated about space force, just that from
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even at the standpoint of just being in Greenland, of
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how important it is as to globally keeping us safe,
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keeping the globe safe, because I think it's no one.
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I don't feel that anyone really understands the scope of
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what is being done there and in space force.
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Yeah, it's a great, great question. It's really hard to
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understand space because you can't see it, you can't feel it,
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you can't touch it. I said something in the press
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a month or so ago, you can't hug a satellite.
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Everybody laughed at me saying that you can't hug us out.
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But you can't you don't have a connection to it.
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We have a saying in space that satellites don't have
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a mother. It's really hard to care about something you
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can't see that's orbiting well above your head, going at
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the speeds that we just talked about. What everybody needs
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to understand though, that connection is real, and you both
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use space multiple times a day before you have your
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first cup of coffee. Your smartphone that's sitting here is
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real stupid. Without space, you couldn't connect to the global Internet.
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You can't do internet banking without space. You can't go
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to the gas station and play with a credit card
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of the pump rather than going in and paying in person.
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Because all of that, the DNA, of that connectivity and
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an information age is all provided by space. Our weather
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satellites help predict bad weather, hurricanes, that's all come from space.
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If you're watching direct television that's coming or any kind
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of satellite TV, that's coming from space. So there's no
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other service, there's no other service in our Department of
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Defense that has a connection to the American people. Like
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the space horse. People just don't recognize it because you
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can't see it. The thing that so, space fuels our
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American waylife. Everything that we do is fueled by the
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integration of space into our way life. It also fuels
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our American way of war. And so just think back
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in World War Two, there would be one thousand bombers,
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the world's best air force. The world's best air force
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would take a thousand bombers off with nine bombs on
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each bomber, so nine thousand bombs going after one target,
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and on a good day, again with the world's best
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air force, with no close second, on a good day,
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about one hundred of those bombs would hit within a
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half a mile of the target. Today, you take one
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bomber off with multiple multiple weapons and they all hit
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perfect strikes. And how do you do that? You do
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that from space. Well, our competitors or our adversaries understand
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the advantage that space gives to us in the military,
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and they're rapidly developing capabilities to deny us our access
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to space and to keep us from reaping the benefit
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of that. That wouldn't just affect the military, it would
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affect everyday Americans. And so both China and Russia specifically
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with China being the pacing threat for sure, have developed
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two things. One robust sets of capabilities for their own use,
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so they have that same advantage that we have for
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integrating space. But they've also built weapons to keep us
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from accessing space. And so they have jammers. They can
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jam our GPS satellites, they can jam communication satellites. They
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have lasers they can blind our satellites and damage our satellites.
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They've got satellites on orbit that are custom built to
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destroy our satellites. There's a China has a satellite with
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a robotic arm and it can reach out and grab you.
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And satellites don't like to be grabbed, and so if
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you're at that satellite in the future could reach out
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and grab a US satellite, would it would be very
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detrimental to that sale. There's missiles that can launch from
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the ground to blow up satellites, and so what used
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to be a peaceful, benign domain where we could just
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take for granted the access the space. You can't take
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that for granted anymore. And so the Space Force was
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about staying ahead of that threat. And while we're the
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best in the world in space today we have competition
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that's moving really fast, and the Space Forces was all
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designed to stay ahead of that threat, to remain the
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best in the world and make sure that you know
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when you walk in the room and turn on the
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proverbial light switch, that the lights are always on that
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when you need to access space, it's always there. That's
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our job, and it's in that space. Those space capabilities
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fuel our American waylife.
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So you feel so you were in the Air Force
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and now you're in Space Force? Why did why did
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we Why couldn't we have that all wrapped up? Because
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one of some of the questions were like, why do
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we need to hold into the branch right? Why does
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it have to be divided between air and space?
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What do you?
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What do you? What would you say to those people?
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And so I I was in the Air Force for
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thirty five years. Thirty five and a half years I
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served in the Air Force and I served in the
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space mission in the Air Force, and so people will
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naturally say, well, that was working just fine. Why don't
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we just keep it where it was? Why did we
502
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have to stand up this independent service? Well, the challenge
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is our competitors are really going are really going fast,
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and the Air Force has a very very broad mission set,
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and the thought was if we stood up an independent service,
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this was their primary job that focused on space, we
507
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could move fast and stay ahead of that threat. I'm
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very proud of my Air Force heritage and I'm very
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proud of what the Air Force built in space. But
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I will tell you in just the seventeen months that
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we've been up as an independent service, we have made
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great strides and there's nobody questioning, nobody questioning inside the
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department why did we do this? We see and have
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quantifiable advances that nobody can question. And again, the goal
515
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is to make sure that every American has this as
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the capabilities at their fingertips.
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Right for a second, about space trash, absolutely, that was
518
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one thing that Keeper and I learned about when we
519
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were in Tully that I thought was interesting. We don't
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as civilians, we don't think about that kind of thing
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being up there and how dangerous it is to our
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International Space Station, to our satellites, how one little bolt
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can destroy you know, up there is there is that
524
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part of space force, like figuring out a way to
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get rid of, not get rid of.
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I have a great idea.
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I'm not even sure.
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Whenever you're ready, I have rd avery idea for springs
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for it's a giant vacuum cleaner.
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Yeah, sort of, but it's going to work.
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But go ahead, answer to so, uh, there is we track,
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we track. Let me know when you're ready, I'll invest
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in that.
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Back and yeah, this thing will suck like you're crazy.
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There's about twenty thousand. There's about excuse me, there's about
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thirty thousand objects that we track in space and they're about.
537
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The Wait a minute. Last time we were in Greenland
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there was fifteen thousand.
539
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It was twenty two. We're up to thirty.
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That's fantastic.
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And so there's thirty thousand you really paid, you really
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paid attention to the Yeah, yeah it was super But
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there's about thirty thousand now. They're about the size about
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the size of a softball is what we can track.
545
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There's about a half a million other objects smaller than
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that that we can't track. And so as you said, Shauna,
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if you have something even the small as small as
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a little bolt going seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour,
549
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if it hit you, it hurt. And so the Space
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Force acts as the space traffic control for the world.
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We keep track of those thirty thousand objects. Of those
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thirty thousand objects, only about probably about thirty five hundred
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or active satellites. Everything else is a piece of debris,
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and so we keep track of all of that. We
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provide warning to the world. So if two satellites are
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going to collide, or if a satellite and a piece
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of breed is going to collide, we warn the satellite owner,
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whoever it is across the world to move their satellite
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to keep from hitting debris. So a lot of people ask,
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how are you going to solve this debris problem. The
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big way that we're working to solve that debris problem
562
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is not to create the debris in the first place,
563
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So to keep track of all that, to provide warning
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for everybody, to to keep that domain safe, to have
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better engineering standards so when you launch a satellite, you
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don't litter the space with debris on a launch at
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the end of the life of a satellite that you
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build it in a way that they don't break up
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into pieces of debris, and so we're actively working to
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manage that. Satellites and lower th orbit. Depending on how
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high they are and depending on a lot of different variables,
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they they'll re enter satellites that are higher than that
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or even in high lower orbit, think eight hundred or
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so miles above the Earth, they'll be up there for
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a long time. And if you're up at geosynchronous orbit,
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which is twenty two three hundred nae aico miles high,
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for all intents purposes, that's up there forever.
578
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So how do we get it out?
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Do you send it like in deep space or something?
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Yeah, so for those there's one orbit that's really really
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critical just based.
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It's dirty of everybody else's place Mars with this, see
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there's one out we're humans day, but we're more important
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than you g Aliens.
585
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Take our trash. You guys deal with it.
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You're probably higher advantace. You just point out and just
587
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vaporize it, like like just spray them and on it.
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Just go. There's one there's one orbit that's really really
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critical based on math in physics. At twenty two three
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hundred miles above the Earth, a satellite orbits the same
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speed that the Earth rotates, and so it gives you
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the it gives you the persistence that you need. If
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you're lower than that, your satellite goes faster than the Earth.
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And if you're higher than that, your satellite's slower than
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the Earth. So in fact, when we have satellites in
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that orbit, to move them will either raise them or
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lower them and have them drift around the belt. The
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geosynchronous spelt for that orbit, because that orbit is so
599
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is so important and it's the only place in the
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only only altitude that that works. That at the end
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of life of a satellite, you have to have enough
602
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fuel to lift it higher. And other than that, space
603
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is really the wild wild West. There's no rules. Basically,
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the rules are.
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Kind of scary. It is kind of scary, I mean,
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especially with independent people starting.
607
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To you know, it's interesting. Back in the in the
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early days, UH space was great power competition between the
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United States and the and then the Soviet Union. Now
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you have students launching satellites. The cost of the launch
611
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has gone down. Small satellites are much more operationally relevant
612
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and so there's all space is becoming more congestity each
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and every day, and so they're there. We're working very
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hard with our with our close partners around the globe
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to develop what we call norms of behavior. What are
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how should safe? How should what? How should we define
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safe and professional behavior so we can best all operate
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together and keep that domain safe for all. We're working
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that very hard and making some good progress on that,
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but we've got to come up with some rules. And
621
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I'm not I'm not convinced that. I'm not naive enough
622
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to think that if you know, if the rule is
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key for that, you're only going to drive thirty five
624
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miles an hour down your street. I've seen you drive,
625
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You're probably going a little faster than that. I'm I'm
626
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not I'm not saying there. But it's going to follow
627
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the rules, but it's going to help us identify who's
628
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going fast or who's running the red lights, and so
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we think that's very important.
630
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Yeah, that kind of leads to this next question from
631
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Facebook NBA Alexander. He said, when private companies start their
632
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civilian space travel excursions, inevitable, inevitably, there's going to be incidents,
633
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maybe they get stranded. Will space Force help in that situation?
634
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You know, it's it's interesting, you know, we're building the
635
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space Force not just for today, but we're building the
636
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space force for the next hund years. You know, what
637
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does a space force look like one hundred years from now?
638
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And if you look at just what the Navy looked like,
639
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or the Air Force looked like, or the Army looked
640
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like at the beginning of its service, they're they're way
641
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different today. And so really what we're focusing on the
642
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near term is making sure that we can protect and
643
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defend those capabilities that we have. We have the capabilities
644
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that can fuel Americans way of life and be able
645
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to assure that. But in the future, there's predictions that
646
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between now in the end of the decade, for example,
647
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there's gonna be a trillion dollar economy between Earth and
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the Moon, and as that develops and as space travelers,
649
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commercial space travelers happen, there's lots of opportunities in the
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future for for new mission sets. That's not our focus today,
651
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but I wouldn't rule it out in the future.
652
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That would be really scary getting stranded.
653
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It would be like to me at this point like
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if if a five five, if a five category five
655
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hurricane was coming in to your city, and you're like,
656
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.359
I've went here on my whole life. I ain't never leaving,
657
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and then you're the one that needs help and then
658
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everyone has to come and get you. That's kind of
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how I would look at space, Like if I would
660
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go up there and I'd be like, hey, oh, I
661
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shouldn't have done this at all. I do not belong
662
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in space. Will someone please come and assist me? They'd
663
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be like, sorry, dude, you know we're not quite there.
664
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Are gonna are you gonna kiss me or not? Kiss?
665
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Wow?
666
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So you told us when we're in too late, and
667
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I can't remember which country, but you said that they
668
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have these satellites that were like Russian dolls. Is this
669
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scares the c a little sneaky?
670
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So there's a I define them as it's Russia, and
671
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they have a satellite that I refer to as the
672
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nesting doll, and it's a you know those dolls that
673
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are a doll inside of a doll inside of a doll.
674
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One of my friends told me, you know that he
675
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didn't like those dolls because they're all full of themselves
676
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that's pretty good. But so Russia has a satellite that
677
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they can launch, and that's once that satellite it's a
678
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little bit, it opens up and sends out a baby satellite,
679
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and then that satellite can open up and send out
680
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a grand baby, and that grand baby is a weapon
681
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that's designed to kill US satellites, and so US well,
682
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they understand, they understand the advantage that space provides our military.
683
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They don't like what they see and they know they
684
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can't beat us on the land, or on an air
685
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or on the sea unless they can take out our
686
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space cable. It's because space is a huge force multiplier
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for for our Department Defense and for our country, and
688
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so our purpose in the space force. We do not
689
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want to get into a conflict that either begins or
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extends into space. That's not what we want at all.
691
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We wanted to deter that from happening, and we think
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that if we can deter that from happening, then we
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have the opportunity to deter that from spilling over into
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other domains and keep more from happening. And so we
695
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come to work every day focused on protecting and defending
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those capabilities that would deny an opportunity for an adversary
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to think that they might be.
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Able to take that out real quick. Could you just
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tell that joke one more time for me?
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Yeah, Let's be honest.
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Dull jag What is it about it?
713
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Because they're they're they're all full of themselves.
714
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There we go.
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Now we're talking to.
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Everyone's like, what are they laughing at?
717
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Okay, well there's laughing for the audience that's here.
718
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So I.
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Yeah, I don't have a room shot sound by.
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Yet well, speaking of room shots, we have to explain.
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How we met, how we met? Can I explain it?
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Yes? Please?
723
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So I get a question.
724
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Now I agree, So I think it's back in twenty seventeen,
725
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you were coming to Peterson Air Force Space where I
726
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was stationed to play at a music festival for the
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for the base. It was around around the Fourth of
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July weekend, and you were gracious enough to come do
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a performance. And you know, a few years before that,
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my kids we you know, we got the rock band
731
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game and I was the family drummer and it was literally,
732
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.599
you know, hit the red drum, hit the green drum,
733
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.360
hit the purple drum, and that was kind of my thing.
734
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.800
But I after I did that, I was like, man,
735
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.000
it'd be really cool to be a drummer. And so
736
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.039
I went and I could do this. Yeah, I can
737
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.760
hit the drum. And I went to the Air Force
738
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.800
Band at Peterson. I say, hey, can you teach me
739
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.039
how to play a song on the drums? And so
740
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.480
they they A guy named Henry Dielmita is an incredible,
741
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.440
incredible drummer, was in the h the Air Force Band.
742
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.599
It got out and went and taught school at a
743
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.760
Berkeley School of Music in Boston. I mean, just an incredible,
744
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:36.960
incredible percussionists.
745
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:37.599
Uh.
746
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.119
He put clips on YouTube on just the basic beat.
747
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.800
And so I sat at home with a knife and
748
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.679
a fork and I practiced this basic beat, and then
749
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.239
they brought me into the band and I got on
750
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.920
a drum set and then I did that, and then
751
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:51.599
they brought the band in and they played this one
752
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.519
song that you know, they just started playing and I
753
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.679
started doing that same beat the entire throughout the entire thing.
754
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:58.880
And so every now and then when they would play
755
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.440
a performance the one song, the song was I'm from
756
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.280
the Country, and every time they play that song, they
757
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.760
invite me up and I just played the basic boding. Well,
758
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.480
then you were coming to town and they said, hey,
759
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.920
would you like to play a song with play the
760
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.000
drums with Thompson Square. And I was a big fan
761
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.280
of your music. I listened to your music all the time,
762
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.920
and so I went home and I had listened, got
763
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.159
my iPhone out and listened, and I said, you know,
764
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.000
I think I could learn Are you going to kiss
765
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:27.960
me or not? It's I think I could do that.
766
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.239
And so I went over to the Air Force Band
767
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.000
and I said, hey, can you teach me this song?
768
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.599
And so they the drummer got got the drum set
769
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.800
out and put go pro cameras all around the drum
770
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.760
set and filmed him playing Are you going to kiss
771
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:43.440
me or not? And then I went home and I
772
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.119
have a drum set and it was in front of
773
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:48.119
the television, and I put that video up. And for
774
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.199
three months, I told you, just for three months, I
775
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.880
would listen on my iPhone and I would practice this
776
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.599
song over and over and over again. And my poor wife, Molley,
777
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.599
if he plays this song one more time.
778
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.000
I hate those people and everything they stand for.
779
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.800
And so so I show up. I show up, you know,
780
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.440
three months goes by. I am ready, and I show
781
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.400
up at the parade field where you're playing. There's about
782
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.960
four or five thousand people that were there, and they
783
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.480
said told me to show up at one o'clock for
784
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.159
the sound check. And so I show up and Elton Charles,
785
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.559
your drummer's setting up his drum set and he's meticulous,
786
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.400
you know, tuning in the drums and setting it up.
787
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.719
And I walk up and he says, hey, are you
788
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.760
the guy playing with us? And I said I am,
789
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.719
and he said have you been practicing? I said I have.
790
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:41.239
I've been practicing for three months and he looks at me.
791
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.079
Three months. I said yeah. He said, what have you
792
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.480
been practicing with. I said, I've been listening to my
793
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.400
iPhone and playing away and he said, man, he said,
794
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.039
we have this track and we don't play the iPhone
795
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:55.360
version and I looked at that. I'm like, you got
796
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.280
to be kidding me, and so he uh, he said
797
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.559
it's okay, I can teach you. And he started talking
798
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.159
music terminology and I'm like, no, he's yes, he is.
799
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.159
He went there he went, and so I said, listen, this,
800
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.199
this is like hit the blue drum hit, the red
801
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.960
drum hit, the this is not this is not music.
802
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.719
This is you know, memorization and uh and I'm like,
803
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.239
this isn't gonna work. And so then you both came
804
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.760
up and he said I generally decided to have you
805
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.360
play and I said, well, I'm really excited too, but
806
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.400
but I don't think that's gonna happen. And he said
807
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.760
why and he said, well, you apparently you got this
808
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:31.880
new version of Are you Gonna Kiss Me or Not?
809
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.880
That's not the one I've been our new track that
810
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.239
this is not the one I've been practicing, and you said, oh,
811
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.199
we'll just play the icephone version. I think, oh, thank goodness,
812
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.840
because if I had a practice for three months and
813
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.840
not have had that opportunity would have really been But
814
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.719
I'll tell you it was the for nothing.
815
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.920
You did that for nothing, the worst band in the
816
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:55.280
history of music. Hate him but hashtag, But.
817
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.199
I'll tell you it was a thrill. And in the
818
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.000
big thrill for me was looking out of the crowd.
819
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.599
And this wasn't about Jay Raymond. This was about the
820
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.199
joy that you brought to a whole lot of people,
821
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.639
a whole lot of people that that volunteered to serve
822
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.639
their country and you really brighten their day. And just
823
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.000
the joy that you bring to people with your music.
824
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.760
I know you know this, but maybe you probably don't
825
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:26.079
understand just how how impactful that is. And to be
826
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.639
up there on stage watching you both perform, and and
827
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.239
having your bass player right up next to me hitting
828
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.840
helping me out, you know, so I wouldn't screw it up.
829
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.400
And and Elton was there taking video of me, and
830
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.280
and uh, I remember right after you, I think, three
831
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.480
doors down, we're about to play. And I remember getting
832
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.639
off the drums and that drummers have. Man, you rocked it.
833
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.199
And I'm like, yes, well, if you only knew I
834
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.400
just hit the purple drum and the green drumdrum. But
835
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.639
it was a it was a it was a real
836
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.239
career highlight. And again, thank you for thank you for
837
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:01.079
doing that, thank you for helping out. Time you brag on.
838
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.599
Us, it makes me feel strange, but that I mean,
839
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.960
I'm thankful for that that moment because we became friends
840
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:08.280
after that.
841
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:09.880
We've stayed in contact this whole time with.
842
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.639
Ice fishing with your families ice fishing place, which is
843
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.400
a dream for my dad to do that with me,
844
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:18.840
And it was a big moment for me, So thank
845
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:19.199
you for that.
846
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.519
But there is a.
847
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.719
There's so many questions that I have and we really
848
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.760
wanted to open We wanted to have the opportunity for
849
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.519
our fans to to also ask some questions.
850
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.119
And there there's a few.
851
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:44.119
People who you obviously are rude, mean and just like
852
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.880
but one question really stood out to me and and
853
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:53.000
if you could shed any light on his question was
854
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.559
when do you start building? When does construction start on
855
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:03.679
the Death Star? This is a serious thing and I
856
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.320
had the same I had the same thing. I was thinking,
857
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.519
surely we have a death star in the plans.
858
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.800
Actually we did have a serious question that's similar.
859
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.239
He's going to answer the death star question first. Okay,
860
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:24.280
don't cut me off now, I'm just kidding. I'm not.
861
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.079
I wish there was a death star. My god, I
862
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.079
wish there was a death start.
863
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.280
That would be really cool. No, the real question is
864
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.239
from Richard Barbie, and he asked, when will you build
865
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.760
a permanent settlement on the Moon or another planet. Ye.
866
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:44.519
So you know, NASA has has the goal of exploration
867
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.280
and science, and they're you know, announced that they're going
868
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.440
to try to get back to the Moon by twenty
869
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.519
twenty four. Hopefully that'll happen a couple of years later.
870
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.800
It's really an exciting time to be in our business,
871
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.559
and in all phases that whether it's whether it's military space,
872
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.320
which is what the Space Force does, whether it's civilian
873
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:05.280
space that's what NASA does and that's all about scientific
874
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.039
exploration and discovery, or whether it's commercial space and that's
875
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.519
commercial companies that are that are launching rockets, are building
876
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:19.400
satellites for commercial gain. In all sectors of that, there's
877
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:25.280
a big explosion of opportunity. The one thing that there
878
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.039
is one rules. When I told you that it was
879
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.239
the wild Wild West, there was there's not a space
880
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.199
treaty that was done back in the nineteen sixty eight
881
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.119
that says you can't put a weapon of mass destruction
882
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.239
in orbit in space. And the other thing is you
883
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.119
can't put a military base on another celestial body, on
884
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.239
another planet. And so that's not that's a treaty that
885
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.880
we've all signed up to, and so there's we won't
886
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.800
do that. It's it's it's spaces for everybody, and you
887
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:53.679
can't go put a put a military base on that
888
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:54.440
on those planets.
889
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.800
Very cool. I had no idea that there was rules
890
00:44:58.960 --> 00:44:59.119
like that.
891
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.119
So I have a question to digress a little bit.
892
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.760
So we're talking about China, we're talking about Russia with
893
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.119
these different satellites and you know, trying to destroy the
894
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.960
American satellites and everything else. If they know that we're policing,
895
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.519
If they know that we're policing the world and they're
896
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.840
benefiting from it, what what's the what's the end game?
897
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:26.519
What what's what's what's the win on destroying what we're doing?
898
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.519
Yeah, Well, so I think the win for all of
899
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.360
us is to keep a domain that's safe for all
900
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:32.800
for everybody to use, and that's our goal.
901
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.079
We are I mean, like, what's the win for someone
902
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:39.159
who's trying to destroy our satellites and although.
903
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.679
Win for them if they their view is if they
904
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:46.239
destroy our satellites, then they hurt our military capability and
905
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.440
and therefore if if there's something that's that again, we
906
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.079
don't want this to happen. We do not want to
907
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.360
get into a conflict that begins to extent in the space.
908
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.320
We want to deter that. But if deterrence were to fail,
909
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.760
I'm convinced that it's going to begin in space, space
910
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.039
and cyber and their thought is if they can do that,
911
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.559
then they'll have more success.
912
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:11.119
It's just it's it's so crazy to me that we're
913
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.199
in We're in the year twenty twenty four now.
914
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:23.360
And and we're still trying to It's just such a macho,
915
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.199
a global macho situation that we were still in.
916
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:33.119
It's like you would think at this point, I guess
917
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.320
I'm having a hard time expressing myself because it's like
918
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.159
you continually have to be in the gym proverbally and listen,
919
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.519
look at being stronger than the next guy, stronger than
920
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.320
the next guy, because you can't let up, because if
921
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.199
we let up and go, because there's a lot of
922
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.159
people out there that like, we don't need space force,
923
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.039
we don't need set we don't need missiles, we don't
924
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:55.679
need nukes, we don't need guns, we don't need.
925
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.400
Armies, we don't need any of this stuff. We just
926
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:58.119
to be peaceful.
927
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.159
But what I think they don't stand is the rest
928
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.760
of the world doesn't feel that way, and the rest
929
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.679
of the world, especially our enemies or enemies of the world,
930
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.920
not just us, but I think if there enemy of us,
931
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:10.320
they're a global situation.
932
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:10.840
But it's like.
933
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.679
They're looking at this, this global situation to win and
934
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.039
like you can't ever you have to be stronger than
935
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:19.599
the next guy.
936
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:20.400
You can't.
937
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.440
Like if you could push a button and all the weapons,
938
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.039
all the nukes, all the devastating things could be gone
939
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.320
at once, that would be one thing, but there's always
940
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.880
going to be one guy that's going to have it,
941
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.400
and you know, for the world domination or whatever it is.
942
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.079
It just seems so crazy to me at this point
943
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.840
in our life and our society and what we've learned
944
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.440
in the past, which is hardly anything because we're repeating
945
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.079
it over and over again, all the hatred and the
946
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.360
fighting and everything else.
947
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:47.800
People who say we don't need this.
948
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.920
I just want you to realize that I'm sitting across
949
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.960
the table from a regular guy that just happens to
950
00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.239
be responsible for your safety and someone who's going don't
951
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.840
need this in it. And it's like I'm sitting here
952
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:08.239
with the guy who is giving you the freedom to
953
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.039
not worry about it and complain about it, and they
954
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:16.519
don't understand it was which it really just takes me. Obviously,
955
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.360
they don't understand. They don't want to educate themselves, they
956
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:21.719
don't want to read about it, they don't want to
957
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.559
know why you guys do what you do.
958
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:28.480
And it's not just a military thing. It's a it's
959
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.400
a it's a it's it's humanity.
960
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.159
Well, I think it's one of those out of sight,
961
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:35.719
out of mind sort of thing, you know what I mean.
962
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.000
It's really hard to understand. It's just it's just hard.
963
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.360
It's like I said, you can't see it. It's things
964
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.400
are going in space, I mean, the vastness of space.
965
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.679
Just think how how much volume of space is up there,
966
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.239
and and just think how fast things are are happening.
967
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.400
Just to stand space. So it's really hard. It's not
968
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.360
easy to understand.
969
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.400
And we have someone here who probably understands it more
970
00:48:59.440 --> 00:48:59.800
than we do.
971
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:01.400
We do.
972
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.840
We actually have an astronaut here tonight, which is insane.
973
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.840
Thank you for bringing your friend Nick here.
974
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.079
I bring I bring Nick with me whenever I go,
975
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.239
especially when I got card. You know, it's it's yeah,
976
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.239
he is the cool card, and it's it's you know,
977
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.159
when you actually have been a satellite like he has
978
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.679
been in space, uh, living on the International Space Station
979
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:26.760
for six months, about six months and uh, and then
980
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.760
also doing a couple of space walks outside of the
981
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.480
space station. He's actually been a satellite. He's been in
982
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:34.800
that domain. Uh. There's not many people that have an
983
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.800
opportunity to do that. So it's an incredible opportunity for
984
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.199
us to have him on our team. And can he
985
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:47.079
can really help. He really helps us put things into context.
986
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.079
He really helps inspire youth of America. You know, I
987
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.039
remember Keith for when I was a little boy, my
988
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.039
dad was a teacher at West Point, and I remember
989
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.519
as if it was yesterday, sitting on sitting in my
990
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.000
living room on my living room for looking at a
991
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.679
television screen and watching Man walk on the moon. And
992
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.960
I remember getting up off the floor and right and
993
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.400
back of me was our dining room with a little
994
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:19.880
table and building an Apollo rocket. That's what inspired the
995
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.719
youth of the day, I will tell you today, with
996
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.400
all that's going on in space, that same, that same
997
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.599
there's kids today being inspired for it. And that's that's
998
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.880
why I was here in Tennessee. I had an opportunity
999
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.320
today to talk to the Tennis Tennessee STEM Innovation Network,
1000
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.360
a group of seven hundred educators that are teaching young
1001
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:46.679
children about science and technology and engineering and math. Had
1002
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.440
an opportunity to visit Vanderbilt University and talked to some
1003
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:53.840
really smart people doing some things that would be of
1004
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.800
value to us. Went over to Tennessee State, met with
1005
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.320
the ROTC unit that's there and the leadership of that
1006
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.880
school as well. We have a great opportunity in our
1007
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:07.400
nation to harness space for a great advantage, and I
1008
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:13.159
really believe in all segments of space again, military, civil,
1009
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.599
NASA or commercial. It's it's a great thing for a country.
1010
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:24.280
I freaked out so much right now, I'm really freaked out.
1011
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.119
I want to answer really exist right, It's one of
1012
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.760
those things when you're growing up.
1013
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.079
You're a kid and you know, And I want to
1014
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.079
get Nick up here in a second, if he'll, if
1015
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.519
he'll talk to us. He's a little bit too I
1016
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:43.360
would if I wasn't asked, I'd be like, I'm not
1017
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:44.000
talking to anybody.
1018
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:44.400
I'm not doing it.
1019
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.079
I do what I want to do because I'm cooler
1020
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:49.920
than all of you guys. I want to touch on
1021
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:55.079
a couple other questions from our fans and our listeners
1022
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:55.639
out there.
1023
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.480
There is one constant question that I noticed.
1024
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:04.000
Well, they can we talk about aliens? Are you guys?
1025
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.159
Are you guys looking for aliens? What's going on with
1026
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:11.920
the aliens? Are there aliens? Are they friends? I've seen
1027
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:13.440
more and more of UFO staff.
1028
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:16.039
There's a lot of UFO stuff in the news today.
1029
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:17.639
It's all over the place.
1030
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.519
You know, Nick lived in space, so it might be
1031
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.880
better better to ask Nick about aliens when he comes
1032
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.960
up here. All right, I'll leave that one for Nick. Yeah,
1033
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.039
there's a question that I see who is your Space
1034
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:31.880
hero growing up?
1035
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.159
As I mentioned, Uh, yeah, for me, it was the
1036
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.440
Polo crew in Preston Smith.
1037
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.880
Yeah, uh, Neil Armstrong and his crew for you know,
1038
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.679
walking on the Moon, and that that inspired inspired a
1039
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.760
generation of folks that wanted to come into space. And
1040
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.119
so that was that was clearly the space hero for
1041
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.760
for me and probably a generation of Americans, young Americans
1042
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:56.760
that are that are involved in space.
1043
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.480
What do you think Space Force looks like two hundred
1044
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.840
years now? I know you guys are planning and you're
1045
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:04.400
building that for an right now, but what does it
1046
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.679
look like like even even short term, like a couple
1047
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.559
of decades to be ond?
1048
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.960
I think I think for the first ten years or so,
1049
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.119
we you know, we're actively building the service. We've been
1050
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.159
up for seventeen months. We've made incredible progress. We've redesigned
1051
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:25.199
the entire National Security Space Organization, we have handpicked. By
1052
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.079
the end of the summer, we'll have about eight thousand
1053
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.559
active duty members of the Space Force. Those active duty
1054
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:33.320
members are called guardians. We've got about an equal number
1055
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.519
of civilians that are also as part of our force.
1056
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.159
We've got a great problem and that we have way
1057
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:41.880
more people knocking on a door that want to come
1058
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.159
into into our business than we have room force. That
1059
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.159
we're being very very selective. Space is really hard. I mean,
1060
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.159
it's it is tough work. And that's why the be smart.
1061
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.440
You have to be smart, and that's why or or no,
1062
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:56.679
or if you're like me, you surround yourself with with
1063
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:02.760
smart people. But that's why that the to the academia
1064
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.280
today is so important to start attracting that talent when
1065
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.719
they're at young ages and then igniting their passion for
1066
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.440
space and so when then they go through school and
1067
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.280
then college, they want to come work in that business.
1068
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:17.119
Well at least.
1069
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.000
I mean, one question is what does my twelve year
1070
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.480
old son need to do to get into space force
1071
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:23.159
when he's twenty.
1072
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.800
Yeah, So I would tell you your son to follow
1073
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:29.519
his dreams into what he's passionate about. And I think
1074
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.320
just as and you, you both would say this that
1075
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:34.880
if you want to be good at something, you do
1076
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.960
something you love. I would also say, do good in school.
1077
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:44.559
And to steal a line from my favorite astronaut who's
1078
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.880
sitting here with us, he one time said to a
1079
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:53.719
young kid, don't ever stop asking questions. Always be inquisitive, right,
1080
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.400
And I think that's also another thing that I'd recommend
1081
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:02.440
always being because of keep asking questions, keep doing well
1082
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.800
in school and you too can be an astronaut. The
1083
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:12.280
Tennessee Stem Innovation Network has a motto from Kindergarten to
1084
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.480
job two jobs, and what I told them was it
1085
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.119
should be from kindergarten to space, because if you do
1086
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.639
well in school, you can do cool things. I mean,
1087
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.280
you can do really cool things. Whether you want to
1088
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.440
come into military and do cool things, whether you want
1089
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.320
to go to NASA and do cool things, or whether
1090
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.800
you want to work for commercial industry. There's a lot
1091
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.880
of opportunities here in space and and follow your passion.
1092
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.480
Always be inquisitive and do well in school.
1093
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.440
That's that's good advice for a lot of different things,
1094
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.000
for sure. So I want to I want to digress
1095
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.039
a little bit because one of the I want to
1096
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.159
go back to Tully for a second, because because Tully
1097
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:54.440
Tully was truly one of the most amazing experiences of
1098
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.519
my life. And as a songwriter, I wanted to leave
1099
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.840
Tully with a little bit of keeper. You know, he
1100
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.960
just won legal behind and so one of the coolest
1101
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.519
things that and we we we've won some awards and
1102
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.559
we've done some things. But there are some lyrics that
1103
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:13.320
I wrote about a bar called the Tow into the
1104
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:17.079
Greenland and I wrote this song as.
1105
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.320
The opening acts. Well, remind me his name. I'm so
1106
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:22.119
sorry I forgot it.
1107
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:25.079
So we had an airman that was from Nashville, that's right,
1108
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.199
and his name is Jamie Teaching. And Jamie was a
1109
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.679
country music writer, songwriter and a very accomplished song was
1110
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.960
successful and he he after nine to eleven, he decided
1111
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:38.960
he wanted to join the military and service country. And
1112
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.400
so he came into the he came into the into
1113
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:44.679
the Space Force, or into the Air Force and played
1114
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:48.239
in the Air Force band and uh and he he
1115
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.440
came up with us and did did the opening. Jamie's
1116
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.159
has sense uh left the Air Force is now back
1117
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.920
in Nashville, but he served his country for four years.
1118
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.400
And we need to get his connection with Yeah, he's
1119
00:56:58.440 --> 00:56:58.880
a he's a.
1120
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:00.960
Really good man and he's a great, great songwriter. But
1121
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.039
so he kicked it off and then then you came up.
1122
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:06.159
And you know, one of the one of the questions
1123
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.119
that I saw from one of your from one of
1124
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.039
the questions that one of your followers had on Facebook
1125
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.519
was you know, what's what's the biggest challenge you have
1126
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:16.519
building the Space Force? The biggest challenge it reminded me
1127
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.599
of of that song that you sing right and and
1128
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.400
the way I would say that the biggest challenge is
1129
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.440
we're driving the cars. We're building it, and so we're
1130
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.519
building the space force. But it's not like we could
1131
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.639
stop providing GPS for the world or missile warning for
1132
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.159
the world, or satellite communications for the world. We have
1133
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.000
to build this and keep all that up without missing
1134
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.280
a beat, and to do great analogy. And so the
1135
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.760
analogy that I saw was when you were up at
1136
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:44.679
Tully and you said, Hey, let me I'm going to
1137
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.280
step out for a minute. And then so you stepped
1138
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.280
out for a minute and he came back. He came back,
1139
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:52.679
and you got the smile on your face and it
1140
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:54.159
could tell something was up. And then you get up
1141
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:55.960
on stage and the last song you said was, Hey,
1142
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.599
I've got something that I just wrote for you before
1143
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:01.400
before we believe I'd like to end with this. And
1144
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.480
if you recall, Uh, Shauna, you sat there and held
1145
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.679
the iPhone up with the lyrics right uh, and you
1146
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:10.679
were you were saying, Hey, it's gonna take me a
1147
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:12.079
little bit because I don't know what key this is in.
1148
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:13.639
I don't even trying to figure this out and you
1149
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:15.960
were trying to drive the car. Just write the song
1150
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:16.880
when you were singing.
1151
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:17.559
It, and so that's creating.
1152
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.960
This is equally as important as space for us being constructed.
1153
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:25.320
Uh So I wanted to write a song. I want
1154
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.880
to we don't want to talk about all facts.
1155
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:27.599
This has some fun.
1156
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.320
I was writing, I wanted to write a song about Tooley,
1157
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.679
And what do you say about Tooley? You know it's cold,
1158
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.239
you know, what are you gonna say? But it's a songwriter,
1159
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:39.440
they say all you need is a hook, you know,
1160
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:41.239
to start the whole process.
1161
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:43.719
And so I have to give credit where credits due.
1162
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.159
My wife said, I was like, I can't wait.
1163
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:46.599
You know.
1164
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.199
We were talking about it and she was like, I
1165
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.599
can't wait till Lee, you know, like to leave, you know,
1166
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.920
because it's so freaking cold here. So I want to
1167
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.079
play this song in its entirety because A I have
1168
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.800
to pee and this is going to lot me the
1169
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.000
time to do that. And this is so this is
1170
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.960
what happened. So we were at Tuley Greenland.
1171
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:07.400
General.
1172
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.280
Right now, I think we're all good, and so this
1173
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.079
song was written as we were being introduced. I put
1174
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.760
the final touches on this song and it's so hilarious
1175
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.719
because you hear jay l He's video and then you
1176
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.880
can hear him laughing. So we're gonna We're gonna listen,
1177
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:24.760
this is what happened.
1178
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:25.719
And it was.
1179
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:30.360
Just to get a little serious.
1180
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.239
It wasn't just a song for me. It was like,
1181
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.360
I know, no one's doing that at that moment in time.
1182
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:41.239
No one's writing a song for those people who were
1183
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.599
there at that time, which they were from away from
1184
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.760
their families. It's freezing cold, it's dark out, there's freaking
1185
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.119
polar bears, you know, peeing on your front porch, you know,
1186
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.840
all of the it's just weird, right, And so to
1187
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.039
give them, and it was just a small room of
1188
00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:00.119
small gathering to give them just a little bit of
1189
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.519
laughter and everything else. It meant I'm telling you, man,
1190
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:08.000
it meant the world to me. And the fact that
1191
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.719
Molly wrote these lyrics out and they're in the toe
1192
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:12.280
in Greenland a piece of us.
1193
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:16.280
It's unbelievable. Man, it's so cool. So this is you
1194
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.960
guys are gonna hear exactly what happened at the exact
1195
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.920
same time. Hang on, here goes.
1196
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:23.000
This song is called.
1197
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:26.280
I Can't Wait to Lead.
1198
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:49.119
I don't know why I just touched. Now almost serve
1199
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:58.400
my country proud. This is rolls and grown, so I
1200
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:11.000
can't wait to leave. I'll get serious. My toes are
1201
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:20.920
froz and my nuts are cool, and I gotta round,
1202
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.199
So I can't wait.
1203
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:27.000
To leave.
1204
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:39.480
Poor green lom Green lam Why are you live green,
1205
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.199
poor green lacengreen Lamb.
1206
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:57.079
Somebody lied to me. We're airing on the space, but
1207
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:03.039
we can't be love face. Can we serve in a
1208
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:04.079
warmer place?
1209
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:07.960
I can't away.
1210
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:22.800
They've got polar bears, so many polar bears, those gods
1211
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.280
damn polar bears.
1212
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.360
And I came away to me.
1213
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:41.599
Who breathe land, Breathe loud while you and I agree,
1214
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:55.079
poor lad Lamb, somebody lies to me. But the best
1215
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:55.920
place to go.
1216
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:06.719
Here's the place called the toad. But the girl population
1217
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:21.360
is so damn lord, I can't wave me. They're giving
1218
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:28.000
me a happy light because here it is always the nights,
1219
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:33.039
and man that sitious day light.
1220
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.480
So I can wait leave.
1221
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:52.079
Breath loud, breath loud, while you and not bring bad
1222
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.679
land bread land.
1223
01:03:56.599 --> 01:04:03.320
Somebody freaking live to me, it's the most important person
1224
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:03.800
I hear.
1225
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:13.760
Fifteen gigs a month. That's its just stand up.
1226
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.440
So say, can you hook us up.
1227
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.400
When you leave to me?
1228
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:41.199
While agreed?
1229
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.119
Somebody lies?
1230
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.880
That was it, man, That brought back some great memories.
1231
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:55.400
It did.
1232
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:56.719
That was so much fun.
1233
01:04:57.800 --> 01:04:59.320
Yeah, that was crazy. That was That was one of
1234
01:04:59.320 --> 01:04:59.960
the coolest moment.
1235
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:05.639
It's like just acoustic there with I don't know one
1236
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:08.960
hundred people. Maybe it was. It was a really cool night.
1237
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.639
So one of the questions we had was why they
1238
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.000
were like, this is the guy in his basement.
1239
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:21.639
Okay, paint the picture. He's in his basement eating cheetos,
1240
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:28.440
He's in his gaming chair. Uh, his mom's making pizza rolls.
1241
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:31.519
And this guy's going.
1242
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:40.840
Space force needs to be dissolved to NASA, and I'm
1243
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:46.039
sure he has a great great facts to back this up.
1244
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.599
So who we have here tonight? This is this is crazy.
1245
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:51.920
So we broke bread with all these wonderful people to night.
1246
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:54.280
So we got we got Jay here, and then we
1247
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:59.800
have Nick Haig, who you were just on you were
1248
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.280
in the space station. He was six hundred pounds when
1249
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.719
he went up and he's like a Bucco five.
1250
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.280
Now the space is hard on you.
1251
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.679
So how long have you been back? Like, how long
1252
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:17.400
ago was this, Uh.
1253
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.760
It seems like a lot longer. The COVID year seemed
1254
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.840
to take a toll on everybody, right, But it's been
1255
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:28.679
two years almost two years now. Yeah, yeah, so I'm
1256
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:29.360
back to normal.
1257
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.960
I was gonna that was my next question. It's like,
1258
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:37.119
how long does it take to feel normal again? With gravity?
1259
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:42.760
And so we the space station, we've been up there
1260
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:47.039
with people inhabiting it for almost two decades straight now,
1261
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.760
and so we've we've figured out how to stay strong,
1262
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.400
We've figured out how to try to counteract all those
1263
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.599
negative effects that space can have on your body. And
1264
01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:00.280
so when when I got back, I did a they
1265
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.320
do you're a test, your a guinea pig, right, So
1266
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.119
they do tests before you launch, and they do tests
1267
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:05.679
when you get back. And so I did a strength
1268
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.199
test when I got back about seven days after and
1269
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:10.639
I was stronger after I landed than when I took off,
1270
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:16.719
because we work out every day up there, lifting weights, running, cycling,
1271
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.280
and all of that is to counteract the fact that
1272
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:23.239
you float all day every day.
1273
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:24.320
There's no resistance.
1274
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:30.519
Yeah, so how much you bench in space, I've been
1275
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:33.400
seventeen hundred pounds in.
1276
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.480
Space in space is very small in your t shirt.
1277
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.800
In space, you can take a thousand pound object and
1278
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:43.280
you can push it with one finger.
1279
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:44.760
It's crazy, so crazy.
1280
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.679
Yeah, sorry, we're geeking out.
1281
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:49.760
This is going to be a four hour podcast. People
1282
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.679
are like, can we please go home? There's more cake
1283
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:52.400
up there by the way.
1284
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.360
What's the most common question that people ask you?
1285
01:07:57.079 --> 01:07:58.280
Have you ever seen aliens?
1286
01:07:58.960 --> 01:07:59.159
Yeah?
1287
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:03.480
I figured yeah, in like what happens with the PA
1288
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:05.639
P so.
1289
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.159
I can take them in reverse order. So the PA.
1290
01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:16.119
Launching stuff into space is really expensive, and water weighs
1291
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:20.439
a lot, and so we try to recycle everything. And
1292
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:22.680
I mentioned that we work out, so we run on
1293
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.039
the treadmill, and while you're running on the treadmill, you're sweating,
1294
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.119
and all that sweat goes into the air. And we've
1295
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.640
got air conditioners that condense the moisture in the air,
1296
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:34.479
the humidity, and they capture it and they put it
1297
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.520
into our water purification system and then turn it into
1298
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:39.920
clean drinking water and we use it. We do the
1299
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.640
same thing with our urine. We capture the urine, we
1300
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:45.840
process it, and we turn it into clean drinking water.
1301
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:51.079
And here at our house, we use a sock and
1302
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:52.800
we just have a sock. But it's pretty much to say.
1303
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:55.520
It sounds very scientific, so I'd stick with it.
1304
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:01.000
So obviously water is very important to as humans. What
1305
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:08.359
happens if that filtration system goes a miss. Yeah, there's
1306
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:13.239
somebody there that is like a pro at fixing that right. Well,
1307
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:15.520
I mean you can't call he'ler plumbing is like no.
1308
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:17.319
I mean that you're you're the crew.
1309
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:20.800
So there's experts on the ground that know that system
1310
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.039
inside and out, and they can give you procedures and
1311
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:24.840
they can talk to you on the radio, but ultimately
1312
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:26.760
you've got to be the one that can fix it.
1313
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:31.119
We do keep reserves on board so that if if
1314
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:33.760
the machine, if the machine breaks, then now I'm drinking
1315
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.960
out of water bags and I've got six months worth
1316
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.439
of water to be able.
1317
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.199
To survive up there before you're going straight p Yeah,
1318
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.239
no you don't. I'm coming home, coming home right now.
1319
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:49.119
At that point, you cash it in. You just hop
1320
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:50.520
in the capsule and come back home.
1321
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.479
What was the most surprising thing about space to you
1322
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.920
that you were just your mind was just like blown.
1323
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:04.640
How adaptable the human body is. Yeah, so you think.
1324
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:09.239
You kind of focus on the motion sickness aspect of
1325
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.359
adjusting to space, and that goes away pretty fast in
1326
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.439
a few days. But the things you don't think about
1327
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:20.600
are just like the way your brain processes information. Your
1328
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.720
inner ear. You have crystals that on the ground will
1329
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:25.960
settle on top of little hairirs inside your inner ear,
1330
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.560
and that tells you which way is down up there
1331
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:30.880
they don't, and so it sends these mixed signals to
1332
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.159
your mind, and your mind over the course of a
1333
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:38.079
few days, just stops listening to your inner ear, and
1334
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:40.760
you use visual cues to navigate and figure out which
1335
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:43.960
ways up and which ways down. Your mind is constantly
1336
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.640
predicting the environment around you, and so if you throw
1337
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:51.399
something down here on the ground, your mind knows where
1338
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:52.760
it's going to go beforehand.
1339
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.600
You know. That's how a quarterback can lead a wide
1340
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:59.880
receiver with a pass on orbit.
1341
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:04.640
For a while, your mind is still predicting gravity to
1342
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.119
have an effect. But you know, after I think, I think,
1343
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.640
I told my wife at about the four month point,
1344
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.800
everything had shifted where I expected everything to float. And
1345
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:16.399
so then when I got back down on the ground,
1346
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.520
I distinctly remember within the first few days I was,
1347
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.279
you know, putting a T shirt on, and so I
1348
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.680
took off a sweatshirt and I threw it on the bed,
1349
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:30.479
and it looked like the sweatshirt weighed five hundred pounds
1350
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.039
because of the trajectory it took. In my mind thought
1351
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:35.520
it should float more. And so just the way you
1352
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:39.039
perceive the world around you. You know, I'm middle aged, right,
1353
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.199
I figured, you know, think the die is pretty much cast,
1354
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:48.319
and that's completely incorrect. You are constantly changing and adapting
1355
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:52.279
to everything you expose yourself to, whether it's mentally or physically,
1356
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:56.159
and so the human body is so adaptable.
1357
01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:57.600
Just insane.
1358
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.079
Actually, I would love to have you come back and
1359
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.319
just do because it's so interesting. We could literally between
1360
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.560
the two of you, guys, we could do this to
1361
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:09.039
the morning.
1362
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:09.520
You know.
1363
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:16.359
But in terms of in terms of space force, what's
1364
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.239
why should it not be the same thing as NASA?
1365
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.680
Why should they be separate entities? As if like this
1366
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.880
gentleman suggested that it needs to be rolled up into
1367
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:28.760
into one thing.
1368
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:35.000
They're very distinct missions when you think about it, and
1369
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.920
and and when you look at those missions, I think
1370
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.079
there's a very clear distinction about why you'd want to
1371
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.119
keep one not military and one would be military. And
1372
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.520
so the defense of our country, the defense of of
1373
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:53.119
the you know, this basically preserving the stability of the
1374
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:58.720
space domain that provides the umbrella for us to have
1375
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:02.439
a better life, for for NASA to be able to
1376
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:06.439
do that civil mission where you're out there doing science
1377
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.640
and you're answering questions and you're you're trying to figure
1378
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.640
out how to make life on the ground better for humanity,
1379
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.680
and you're able to do that in an international fashion.
1380
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.760
One of the things that I found most rewarding about
1381
01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:25.000
my time on orbit was the fact that I was
1382
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:30.239
part of an international crew. My crewmates were an Italian astronaut,
1383
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:35.239
they were a Canadian astronaut, it was Russian cosmonauts uh
1384
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:40.640
and and and being able to work together in such
1385
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:45.359
a positive way to be be a way to it
1386
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.640
just shows you the power of exploring space. Uh and
1387
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.960
and how that can bring us together.
1388
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:56.840
I love you that that same question. When you travel,
1389
01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:59.920
you fly in a commercial airliner. Air Force has air
1390
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.560
planes as well. Why don't we just cut the Air
1391
01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:04.680
Force out and we'll just apply on United It's a
1392
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:09.119
different mission, right is. The Space Force is an armed service.
1393
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.279
It's meant to protect and defend and to allow NASA
1394
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.079
and commercial industry and in every human to reap the
1395
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:19.520
benefits of that. And so it's just a complete different
1396
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:22.520
mission set. Having said that, we work very closely with NASA.
1397
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:26.199
In fact, Nick is a Space Force kernel and we
1398
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:28.960
give Nick to NASA to act to serve as a
1399
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.840
NASA astronaut. We we operate launch ranges and when NASA
1400
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:37.399
when when Nick's counterparts launched into the International Space Station
1401
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:41.119
from from Florida, they launch off of our range, the
1402
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:43.520
Space Force range, so we can conduct that launch safely.
1403
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:49.600
We we train, We developed training things together because we
1404
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.239
both operate in that same domain. We we talked earlier
1405
01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:55.000
about norms of behavior. NASA wants to have norms of
1406
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:56.840
behavior as well, so we're working with NASA to come
1407
01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:58.960
up with norms of behavior. So there's there's a lot
1408
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.399
of things that we do together because we operate in
1409
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:07.039
that same domain. The Space Force protects International Space Station
1410
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:09.439
and the astronauts that are on space. I talked about,
1411
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:13.239
you know, tracking all those objects. We warn the International
1412
01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:17.279
Space Station as well, and it's not frequent, but it's
1413
01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:19.800
not infrequent either where the International Space Station has to
1414
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:22.119
maneuver to keep from hitting a piece of debris. And
1415
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:25.119
so we have a very close partnership with NASA. But
1416
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:30.520
it's two separate distinct missions and it's it's both are
1417
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:32.359
both are very important for our country.
1418
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:37.199
So we just recently had some debris this fell into
1419
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:40.840
I forgive me for not knowing enough information about this,
1420
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.359
but it was quite a large piece of debris that
1421
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:48.640
came down from maybe China or something. Is that something
1422
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:53.359
that space force would try to take care of before
1423
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:56.079
it it injured someone, you know.
1424
01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:59.479
So what we track all that and so we track
1425
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.800
all those objects. This was a rocket body that was
1426
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:05.920
used to launch capability into space for China, and then
1427
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.560
that rocket body came down. It was a big rocket body,
1428
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.560
and so what was concerning was the size of it.
1429
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.680
And the thought was it because of its size, it
1430
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:20.000
might survive pieces of it might survive re entry and
1431
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:26.399
potentially land on the surface of the Earth. You know,
1432
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.800
the Earth is the vast majority of Earth is water,
1433
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:32.159
and the vast majority of these things come down in
1434
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:34.439
the ocean and they're no threat. But the size of
1435
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:37.960
this was significant. We tracked that and we track it
1436
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:41.319
very very closely, and we make predictions on when it
1437
01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:44.239
will re enter. And the challenge though is we talked
1438
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.840
about objectsally going seventeen five hundred miles an hour, and
1439
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:52.680
so it's an art not an exact science on exactly
1440
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:56.479
when that's gonna re enter. We get we were the
1441
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:58.279
best in the world at tracking it, but if we're
1442
01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:00.560
off by just a minute or so, something going seventeen
1443
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.760
five hundred miles an hour a minute later is a
1444
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:08.520
significant difference. So our job on that is to track
1445
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:14.880
and we have great analytical tools to determine exactly when
1446
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.159
we think that's gonna re enter, and we we track
1447
01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:21.239
it all the time as it gets close, so we
1448
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:22.920
can refine that and then provide warning.
1449
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.199
Right because I think people automatically think, well, we've got
1450
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.359
space for us. You guys are just gonna zap it
1451
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.159
just is, And that's what we're trying to do right
1452
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.920
now is educate more than inform and educate people on
1453
01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:37.520
what you guys are doing. But it's like we have
1454
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:39.239
space force, oll, they should be able to just zap
1455
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:41.239
that rocket out of the sky and vapor you know,
1456
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:42.760
it's none Like you said, it's.
1457
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.119
Exactly the risk of this was very very very low,
1458
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:45.800
very low.
1459
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:47.880
It's so just answer their question.
1460
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.079
You guys knew about it absolutely so was going and
1461
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.000
everything else, and that's where they were.
1462
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.079
That's right. We were tracking it. We were tracking it
1463
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.199
and providing information to the globe on where it is.
1464
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.840
Us Space Command has that mission. The Space Force operates
1465
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.920
all those capabilities, and then we provide that to Space
1466
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.279
Command and they provide warning to the world. We're the
1467
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.159
best in the world of that. We have sensors all
1468
01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:18.199
over the globe. You saw the radar up at tully Greenland.
1469
01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:21.159
It also tracks objects that are in space. We have
1470
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:23.920
that all over the globe. We use commercial sensors now
1471
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.880
more than ever to help us as well. It's a
1472
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:29.760
big data problem. If you think about space, unless you're
1473
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:34.079
Nick or his fellow astronauts, there's nobody that lives in
1474
01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:39.279
that domain. You experience that domain with data, and so
1475
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:43.520
we collect all that data, put all the analysis on
1476
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.079
that data to keep not just the domain safe, but
1477
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:47.840
help keep our world safe as well.
1478
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:52.000
Nick, what was the hardest part of being in the
1479
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:53.399
space station for six months?
1480
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:55.479
Dude, It's weird, man, I'm just gonna tell you, it's
1481
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:58.319
freaking weird. You're sitting here across from me and this
1482
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.279
guy was like, you know, like peanut in space. And
1483
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:04.000
now he's here at our house having shrimp.
1484
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:07.680
Yes, and seven months of drinking coffee and turning it
1485
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:09.800
into the next to these coffee coffee.
1486
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:12.760
Yeah, mister coffee is someone the changes filter. This thing
1487
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:14.560
tastes a little bit like thee I'm gonna be honest
1488
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:19.319
with you, but it I asked him a question, go ahead,
1489
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:21.159
I have a million, but go ahead.
1490
01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:22.399
Yeah.
1491
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:22.800
You know.
1492
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:28.239
So you guys talked a lot about Tully and and
1493
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:31.960
the separation, and so I think it's very similar in
1494
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:34.960
that it's the separation from family and loved ones for
1495
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:40.239
that period of time. Inside the station, the habitable volume
1496
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:42.920
is about the same size as a five bedroom, six
1497
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:43.560
bedroom home.
1498
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:45.800
Oh wow, So it's it's pretty spacious.
1499
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:46.239
Yeah.
1500
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:50.560
And and for a period of time I had five
1501
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:55.239
other crewmates and it was cozy. When we went down
1502
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:58.560
to three crewmates, then it almost seemed lonely because you
1503
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.479
could go almost an entire day and not see another
1504
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:04.119
human because we're so busy working and and and.
1505
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.640
And so it changes.
1506
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.319
But but the constant and all that is just trying
1507
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:16.680
to stay in touch with the family that life goes
1508
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.960
on on on the ground, and so being able to
1509
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.039
call and being able to do video chats on the
1510
01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:25.840
on the weekends. There's connectivity, but you're just separated. And
1511
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.159
so that that's a challenge, and that's a challenge that
1512
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:29.199
all the service members.
1513
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:33.920
So General Raymond shared with this that you did it.
1514
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:35.439
You actually did a spacewalk.
1515
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:38.079
I did. I did three. I did three while I
1516
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:38.520
was up there.
1517
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.439
So so just take me there for just a different
1518
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:46.079
level of nuts man like, like, that's that nuts crazy?
1519
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:49.760
Right before you lift the hatch, is it a hatch?
1520
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:50.279
Is that what you do?
1521
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:50.880
It's a hatch.
1522
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:54.000
So so we get into the airlock, they shut one hatch,
1523
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.640
we let all the air out. We actually pump it
1524
01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:58.399
out so the back end of the station so we
1525
01:20:58.439 --> 01:20:59.800
don't lose the air because we don't want to have.
1526
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:01.600
To actually having a hard time breathing right now.
1527
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:05.920
And then and then you open the hatch and you
1528
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:09.279
look down and two hundred and fifty miles below is
1529
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:12.000
the Earth and you can see clouds and you when
1530
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:15.359
you fly over northern Africa, you can see sand dunes,
1531
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.840
you can see mountains and the ice. You know, you
1532
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:23.159
can see glaciers and and what do you have a walk?
1533
01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:25.720
When you push play, it's like it's ground controlled.
1534
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:31.640
To me, You guys, there's been somebody that's done that.
1535
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:33.279
Did you listen to that? When you're up there, you
1536
01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:36.079
had to listen to all the space songs.
1537
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:40.119
So just curious, like it's crazy what you can you
1538
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:42.920
tell us, like maybe what the mission was when you
1539
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:44.279
did have to do the space.
1540
01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:47.039
Walk, Like yeah, So each each one's a little bit different,
1541
01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:49.239
but in general, there's kind of two purposes.
1542
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:50.359
One is we're.
1543
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:55.880
Uh fixing something that's broken, or we're upgrading things so
1544
01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:57.720
that we can extend the life of the station. So
1545
01:21:57.800 --> 01:21:59.800
it's been up there for two decades and we're going
1546
01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:01.680
to try to keep it up there, you know, another
1547
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:04.079
decade if we can, because we're getting so much benefit
1548
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:07.159
out of it. So the one the first one that
1549
01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:10.439
I did, so I launched and then seven days after
1550
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:14.520
I arrived, we were headed out the door. My crewmate
1551
01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:17.239
and McLean and I were classmates, both selected at the
1552
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.000
same time. It was both our first spacewalk. We're going
1553
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.359
out and we're going to take old batteries off. The
1554
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:28.079
space station's battery powered, so it's got big solar raised
1555
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:30.399
the charge batteries and the batteries are what power everything.
1556
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:34.159
And we were replacing old batteries and putting on new batteries,
1557
01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:37.960
and so each battery is about three hundred pounds. It's
1558
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.239
the size of a really large suitcase. And so we'd
1559
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.840
go out there with our tools and go to work,
1560
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.119
and we spent seven hours crawling all over the outside
1561
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:52.119
of the space station and trying not to mess anything up.
1562
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:54.640
When you take the battery off, do you throw it
1563
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:58.479
toward a Chinese satellite just to see if you can
1564
01:22:58.560 --> 01:22:58.760
hit it.
1565
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:00.680
That's not our mission, all right.
1566
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:05.119
This one's for This one's for j and you just
1567
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:08.279
throw it as hard as you can, like damn, that
1568
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:09.039
was one of ours.
1569
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:11.000
So actually.
1570
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:16.640
We we are Everything that we deal with has a
1571
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:18.560
tether on it because we don't want stuff to fly
1572
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:20.479
or flyway, you know what, to be a part of
1573
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.520
the problem, because reality is that's a that's a that's
1574
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.279
one impulse and change velocity that you've given that object,
1575
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.399
and so it can come around and hit you the
1576
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.439
next sie next time you go around on that orbit,
1577
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:34.279
because you're both going around about the same speed.
1578
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.319
So you try not to do that.
1579
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:38.880
So we put all the old batteries back on the
1580
01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:42.159
palette that brought the new ones up and then it
1581
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:44.640
goes back on a vehicle that burns up in the atmosphere.
1582
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.840
I remember, when he's outside doing this walk, they're going seventeen.
1583
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:52.239
And seven and that can be a tough number to digest.
1584
01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:55.640
Seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour, five miles a second.
1585
01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:59.479
And so he's whipping around the orbit round four forty
1586
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:06.239
in like. But Nick tell one thing that that we
1587
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:08.640
were talking about a couple of months ago that I
1588
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.520
hadn't thought thought about having that lived in space. But
1589
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.880
when you're out there doing the walk, the difference in
1590
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:20.840
temperature from daylight the darkness, and how hot things and
1591
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.239
how cold things get. So space is either really hot
1592
01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:23.960
or really cold.
1593
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.119
And so when you're in the sun, it's two hundred
1594
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:29.319
and fifty degrees fahrenheit, and when you're in the shadow,
1595
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:33.600
it's minus two hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit. And so
1596
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:35.880
so we're sitting there, crawling on the outside of the
1597
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.520
station and there's you know, different coatings on different places,
1598
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.239
and there'll be places where they say, well, you don't
1599
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.319
want to touch that, because if it was just in
1600
01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.920
the sunlight, it's hot enough to melt your suit. So
1601
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:50.520
that's a bad thing. So don't touch those things. And
1602
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.359
you tend to pay attention to those kinds of instructions.
1603
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:58.119
Something else you tend to pay attention to me, I
1604
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.079
would be the guy touched that. Look at this, do
1605
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:01.000
you think so?
1606
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:05.439
Let me tell you he was keeper flying out of space.
1607
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:10.279
Let me tell you something else that you pay attention to.
1608
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.560
And this is this guy here is a real hero.
1609
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.760
He's a brilliant man. It served serves his country with distinction.
1610
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:22.800
He launched on a rocket to go to the international spaces.
1611
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.439
And he launched on a rocket from Russia. And he
1612
01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.000
got on a rocket in Russia and it launched and
1613
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:32.960
two minutes out how long after launch? Two minutes after
1614
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:37.960
two minutes after launch, the rocket blew up. This guy
1615
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.000
was in the rocket that blew up, was in the capsule.
1616
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.239
The capsule ejected. And he's the only US astronaut to
1617
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:48.159
ever survive in a boarded launch. Here's the deal, thank god, Yeah,
1618
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.159
here's the deal. Five months later, back in it gets
1619
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:55.119
back on the same rocket, same type of rocket, and
1620
01:25:55.199 --> 01:26:00.520
launches again. And uh, I'll tell you just truly inspiring
1621
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:03.000
person to get to serve with each and every day.
1622
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.319
The other thing. That's that's cool. The other person, one
1623
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.840
of the other people that are here with us today
1624
01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:10.520
is his wife, Katie Higg And Katie is our public
1625
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:13.880
affairs officer, and Katie worked closely with you to help
1626
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:18.520
make these arrangements for the podcast today. Katie was there
1627
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:21.880
with their two children and watched the rocket go and
1628
01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:26.359
and didn't know if Nick was okay for quite a while,
1629
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:30.800
and so then to also have Katie there watching the
1630
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.319
second time, it's an incredible family. These are the type
1631
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:36.359
of people that I'm really privileged to serve with. That's
1632
01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.439
what keeps me in the military, to have an opportunity
1633
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:43.960
to work with talented people that are dedicated to their craft.
1634
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.880
Just as you're dedicated to music. These folks are really
1635
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:53.800
dedicated to our to our country. And that's that's what
1636
01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:56.039
is so cool about what we do. We get to
1637
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:57.520
work with really great people.
1638
01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.279
And that's the most and that's what frustrat It's me
1639
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.319
and it makes me so angry sometimes when you have
1640
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:07.079
so much with the disrespect of so many people with
1641
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:11.960
the military, space forest, NASA in general, it's it's it's
1642
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:16.399
it's unnerving because it's I just don't know, I don't
1643
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:18.119
even know where to go with that, because it's.
1644
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.600
Just it's I mean, it's not it's not unnerving. It's
1645
01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:23.479
really hard to understand. It's hard to understand.
1646
01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:26.000
How can you sit there in your house and have
1647
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:27.760
all the comforts of home and everything else, and you
1648
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.079
got Nick being blown out of the sky and then
1649
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:33.119
gets back in the south. I mean, I mean, if
1650
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:35.840
I'm on a horse and that lays down, I'm never
1651
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:38.680
even looking at a horse again, much less getting in
1652
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:38.920
a rock.
1653
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:40.760
I mean, it's like that's crazy.
1654
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:43.680
But but then that also think about this Nick is
1655
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.800
in this capsule and he's speaking Russian, and so he
1656
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:51.319
had to learn Russian, and he under under stress. You
1657
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:53.399
know what, what's your normal instinct You're going to be
1658
01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:58.920
talking in English? Becausing in English, sir, And so that
1659
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:05.319
the here the composure, the absolute composure of this of
1660
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:12.239
this officer under extreme uh stress. Uh. It's just incredible.
1661
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:15.640
And and our country is really lucky. We've got we've
1662
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.479
got great people, great people that raise their hand take
1663
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.520
an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the
1664
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.960
United States against all enemies. And now I'm really privileged
1665
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.600
to serve with Nick and with the with the entire
1666
01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:31.880
entire team that I'm that I get an opportunity to
1667
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:33.960
work with each and every day. Well, I I.
1668
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:37.119
That seems like a pretty good spot.
1669
01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.199
I think so, gentlemen. I I don't know what to say.
1670
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.760
I I I I'm very honored that you guys are
1671
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:46.560
in our home tonight. I would I could talk to
1672
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:49.680
both of you for twenty more hours. And your story
1673
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:51.000
is amazing.
1674
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.560
Nick and General Raymond. Thank you for sharing that because
1675
01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:57.000
we never would have we never would have known, so
1676
01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:57.920
thank you for sharing that.
1677
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:01.960
Yeah, it's it's it's humble nature.
1678
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:06.079
And that's what that's what that's that's the general common
1679
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:10.159
thread between just if I just just just between the
1680
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.159
two of you and everyone really here is there's a humbleness.
1681
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.520
And and if I wasn't astronaut that blew up in
1682
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.520
a rocket, I would have it on my T shirt
1683
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:24.479
and like it wouldn't be like I survived Disneyland. It
1684
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:27.000
would be like I got blown out of this rocket
1685
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:29.079
and then went back up again.
1686
01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:30.760
So what do you got? So you have to be
1687
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.760
the coolest guy in the room. It's like, what do
1688
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:35.479
you do for a living? Well, you know, I'm a lawyer.
1689
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:38.840
What do you do well, just go open rockets. I mean,
1690
01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:43.119
you're the I mean, you got to be the coolest
1691
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:44.760
guy in the room, right, I mean, who who can
1692
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trump that?
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My wife could tell you, I can't pull that off.
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I would be rocking that. I would be I would.
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I mean I have a big tattoo of myself on
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my back, you know what I mean, just like in
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a spacesuit.
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You know.
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Just get doing the rock and roll, you know.
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Just I mean, if you allow me to say the
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last word, let me just say thank you to you,
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to you both, It's it's a privileged to be in
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your home. It's that privileged to consider you both friends.
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It's a privileged to see you support our military and
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you have played concerts around the globe and uh, and
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you do it in a way that really connects with people.
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And so thank you both very much for for what
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you're doing, for for the joy that you provided so
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many and uh, it's it's not every.
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Call your friends thank you very much.
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Well, I can't say thank you enough.
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And uh, this, I mean, this is one of the
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highlights of our life to have you guys here in
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our house and to break bread together, and it's it's
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01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:49.199
been an amazing day.
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And it's not just the two of you here.
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There's there's a lot of people here that hopefully ate
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01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:56.640
all the shrimp and the pie it was upstairs, and
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I'm going to eat all the pie later on. But uh,
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thank you guys for your service. I know everyone says
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that they take it for granted, but thank you for
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what you do. Uh so I don't have to do
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it because if if the world was relying on me
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to go for the rocket, it's not your your so
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ol boys, I mean, I'm.
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It ain't happen, you know. And so just the crazy bravery,
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the the size, it's just.
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Got to be enormous. I don't even know how you
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put pants on. There's a lot of crazy. I mean, see,
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I want to wrap the whole thing up. But I
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hope you come back. I mean if I would love
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to talk to you about that. I know that everybody,
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I mean, who gets a chance to do this. So
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thank you guys very much, and I hope you have
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01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:45.159
a great night. And there's one last thing I want
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to do before you guys leave, And I have a
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01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:50.760
Gallaga machine over here, and I want to challenge you
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01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:53.239
both to the game of galagha. We'll let you guys
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01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:56.119
know on Facebook and Instagram how it turns out. But
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God bless you guys. Man, thank you so much for
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01:31:58.760 --> 01:31:59.479
thank you to do man.
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Thanks became them totoy demasment and to relate the
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