Reality Rewatch: Married to Medicine Season 2

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Welcome back, Noetakers.
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This is Noah Aaron with the Honor Real Note Podcast.
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And this is Aiden.
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And since I am now dating a med school student, I deserve to be on Married to Medicine.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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You should be on Married to Medicine.
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Um, I think them girls are going on their 13th season now.
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So right.
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And my relationship is as real as Phaedra's when she ends up on the cast of the show, which we have a few episodes to get to Phaedra, but Yeah.
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Well, so are are you coming on the show just until you finally get approved to go back to the real houses of Atlanta?
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Is that what you're doing?
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Maybe so.
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Maybe so.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Mia Thornton's gonna try that.
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She's probably looking her way through medical rosters in Atlanta Raspberry.
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I'm sure she's doing anything and everything she can to try to get back on television.
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She gotta claw her way back.
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Um I mean, I'm sure if she really wanted to be on the Zeus network, they would have her, but I think even she knows that she's a little better than that.
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I hope so.
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I mean, I don't know.
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She's she's clearing out apartments and shit.
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Don't rent to her.
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Um that's true.
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Zeus might, you know, Natalie don't play that.
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Now he's gonna be like, I have to nail the furniture to album.
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Yeah, okay.
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That's crazy.
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Well, let's let's talk about nailing down this series that we got going on.
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So this is officially the second installment in our Married to Medicine rewatch series.
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So we are a couple of podcasters that shockingly enough, we've never been like Married to Medicine girlies.
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We've been Housewife girlies, we've been you know a few other Bravo shows.
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I know you were watching Martha's Vineyards, at least you were.
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You know what?
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Not a lot of other people were, it got canceled.
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Well, well.
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And everyone I know is talking about Caucasian Summerhouse.
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And I have never watched that show.
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I don't even know.
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And like, and and it's it's it's been airing.
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I'm like, it's not even the summer, but I guess they told me the summer.
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Well, they fell in the summer now.
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Well, it needs to be like Big Brother and they need to broadcast it live.
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Um, you know Brothel don't play that.
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They can't, you know, spin together some narratives.
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Right, exactly, exactly.
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Um, but yes, so we are now on season two of Married to Medicine.
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Basically, what we're doing is we are trying to binge watch one season a month, kind of come back here, talk to you guys about it, kind of, I don't know if I would necessarily call it like a recap of the season, but more so like I guess maybe a little bit of a retrospective.
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We kind of go back, talk about the the characters, about the storylines, the moments and stuff, and what we thought of it.
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Um, if you guys want to, of course, go back just last month, you can see uh listen to or watch our season one coverage.
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Um, but we are back for season two, and we really had a great time with season one.
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Um, if you watched that episode or listened to it, you would know we really enjoyed ourselves.
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And I think we also had a good time with this season, too.
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So Mary to Medicine so far seems to be a winner of a series.
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Right.
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And we, you know, come out swinging a little bit with the storylines and an expanded season, going up from like 10 or so episodes to, you know, whopping 14 plus the reunion.
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So you know, an expanded series order and to take us back and to set the moment in time.
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Season two of Married to Medicine premiered on April 6th, 2014.
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So a little over 12 years ago, and it drew 2.4 million viewers on premiere on Bravo.
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So crazy, you know, strong premiere in conjunction with the the boom of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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I'm sure they premiered, you know, tangentially to each other or like close enough that it was kind of a back-to-back moment, as we kind of see now.
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But you know, people were excited for the show.
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We see the addition of two new castmates, and we start off with a bang because one of the strongest alliances from last season is coming to a downfall between Mariah and Quad.
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And this storyline kind of permeates the first half of the season, maybe a little bit throughout the entirety, but the first half of the season is definitely a reaction to this off-camera kind of Mariah Quad impossible.
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Yeah, which is interesting because I really like the first season, I saw them as being like very tight.
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Like I really, I mean, I know that a lot of times in these shows like friendships and duos and whatnot aren't always built to last.
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You know, not everyone can be the green-eyed bandits or the bros from Miami and go the distance.
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So, I mean, a lot of times these shows do destroy friendships, but I don't know.
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I really, at the very least, I didn't expect them to have a fallout like as early as the second season.
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Right.
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I did not think that.
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And also, like, I thought if they would have a fallout, like it would be like a slow, gradual thing.
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We would kind of see the beginning of it on camera.
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So the fact that it like kind of happened off camera and we're seeing the fallout now is kind of like what gagged me.
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Right.
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It was just like, oh, they just got right to it.
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But no, I agree.
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I definitely thought it would come, but definitely maybe like slowly over one season, we see some bickering, some confessionals, a reunion fake makeup, and then it all goes, you know, the next season all coast to shit.
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But didn't quite happen like that.
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We got straight up to Yadalin fighting at STK.
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There was an off-camera fight at STK that is referenced a lot, but I'm just like, Yashia just had the cameras up at STK at this point.
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But at least or at least other cast members are there to co-sign some shit.
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Because we get very different stories between Mariah and Quad.
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You know, if you go by Quad's uh version of events, it was physical.
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If you go by Mariah's version of events, it was very much not physical.
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Right.
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And I don't know.
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In the recount of events, it's hard because Mariah does her whole sociopath thing where she's not really giving anything.
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It's kind of just like, wow.
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That like Shakespeare wrote himself, going on a soliloquy, a little over dramatic, and it's like, are you are you putting on?
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Like you feel the emotion, but it's like that.
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But it's a little mutt.
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So it's just like you don't naturally believe anyone, but that's I don't know.
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I'm I'm biased towards people who actually show emotions.
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Right.
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Well, that's the thing, is I feel like there could be arguments made for both of them, giving me reason to think that they either one could be lying or at least over exaggerating or under or downplaying or whatever.
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Um, especially because I mean, like, you know, with Mariah, she had the fight in the season with Troya that got physical and everything like that.
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So then you kind of enter in, like, okay, like, you know, Mariah's gotten physical in the past.
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Like, who's to say she wouldn't do it here, especially off camera when she was willing to do it on camera?
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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But the whole essence of that was like, oh, Mariah's like, oh, I made you this, the sh you wouldn't be on the show.
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Without me, I gave you this.
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This platform.
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Yeah.
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And with also like a mixing of words, what they exactly said, which I don't think is important.
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It's it's clear that Mariah likes to pull rank based off of her EP title and you know, putting the group together, which everyone who's the center of the point on these shows likes to say that and do that.
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But yeah, I do feel Mariah brings it to the next level, to the point where it's like if the whole cast is not taking your side yet again, which we see happen again this season, yeah, you may be a little fucking annoying about this.
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Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
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I think that's the thing with Mariah, is that we mentioned this with our previous episode covering season one, but I think her downfall really is like her need to be the self-asserted Queen B.
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She's the leader, she's in charge, and um, like you said, she pulls rank and everything like that.
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And it just seems like these women, because like last season with the physical altercation between her and Toya, like, even though they both participated in it, the women were very quick to kind of give Toya a pass for it while holding it against Mariah.
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Um so I think really that's the thing is like it just shows that these women really don't like Mariah.
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Like, yeah, they're like basically the moment they have a reason to exclude her or go after her or ice brought or whatever, like they're quick to do it the moment they have the moment they have an excuse.
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I know.
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And it's just like, are they threatened or is she annoying?
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Yeah.
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Which I don't necessarily think they should be threatened.
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I think what Mariah's problem is, is that her she's making her whole storyline and personality, like insisting on like I made the social group.
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Yeah.
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In a similar fashion to Cherice, where it's like, okay, but can you do something else?
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Like you're not sure.
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It's kind of like you say that, but truthfully, I like, you know, I appreciate Mariah, but it's like you're one of the more least interesting ones.
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I would say her and Lisa are the two least interesting, at least, you know, in their confessionals and their day-to-day and their personalities.
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Like, you know, I'm not necessarily intrigued by it.
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I do think Mariah's family life is somewhat interesting.
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Yeah.
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So I'll give her that.
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But I do see No other girls shouldn't be threatened.
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Although I will say, like, I really um I don't know if I would count bullying your husband into getting a hair transplant.
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I don't know if I count that as a storyline.
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Um Well that well, about an essential storyline.
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But yeah, let's get into the Mariah of it all this season.
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Well, I was I was gonna add on that because I like the Cherice comparison, but also I feel like, especially this season, I really felt this reminded me, like uh Mariah and Quad's like friendship and dynamic of their fallout, it reminded me a lot of the Jill and Bethany fallout on the early seasons of New York City, where kind of Jill kind of was also the connector.
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She was the one that kind of brought the group together.
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And Bethany was kind of like the one she took under her wing, the up-and-coming one.
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And on that show, it seemed like once Bethany kind of had her own success and it really became into her own, Jill kind of turned on her and had this whole beef with her, and it really backfired because the fans very much took Bethany's side.
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Um, and I feel like Jill never recovered from that and eventually would end up exiting the show like after the following season.
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Um, so that kind of I I kind of had vibes of that with uh Mariah and Quad's Fallout this season.
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I could definitely see that.
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Although with that one, it was clear Jill was trying to start a little something up.
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Yeah.
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You know, Bethany was like, um, what are you doing here?
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Yeah, with Quad and Mariah.
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Yeah, like this was subject to the nice.
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It feels a little bit more natural, but I do also feel like I feel like Mariah is, or at least was, overestimating her ability to kind of paint the narrative and control the narrative.
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Because I feel like she really thought she was gonna make it like all that it was just it was all quad's fault and that she didn't she did nothing wrong.
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I think she thought she was gonna be able to sell that.
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I definitely think she let that EP title get to her head as if she was in the editing bay.
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Like you were not in the editing bay.
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And as quad said at the reunion, you do not hire our fire, you do not sign our checks.
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Exactly.
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So maybe it's you know, and I I don't know, from how what I'm familiar with with television production, the executive producer title can be, you know, in name, it can be, you know, it can mean a lot of actual title.
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Yeah, it can mean a lot of different things.
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So who really knows?
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But I think when we got a lot of this EP slash cast member dynamic, we see a lot on baddies.
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Okay, they're they're a cast member with a little more power.
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That's what it truly is.
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So Mariah is essentially Natalie Nud.
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Oh, Natalie Nunn is essentially Mariah, because this was before baddies.
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Well, c clearly Mariah ain't got a clause in her contract saying she can't get hit.
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Well, neither does Natalie.
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We're only be doing her in once a season.
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But no, what I do wish, you know, we kind of had with this as we go through this rewatch is kind of like knowing the public perception who were the favorites and whatnot.
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Like I tried to poke around in forums and social media to get a sense, but I don't think there's like a clear favorite.
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I don't think these will be yeah, I don't think people necessarily loved Mariah, but I don't know.
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It it seems like it's a it's definitely how we feel, like on Tambo, everyone gives a little something, but yeah, there's no clear like Nini, and maybe people like to that, but yeah.
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I definitely don't think Mariah was anyone's favorite.
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Not really, yeah.
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I've I feel like most of what I've seen from her, like as far as people's uh the way people talk about her and everything, is I mostly see either people that don't like her or people that are just like a little bit more neutral or indifferent.
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Like I don't see any Mariah Huck stands going to war.
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I mean, A Aiden seems to love better.
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Aiden seems to love better.
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He got he got that damn hair transplant.
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This is in 2014 before the you know Turkey really got their technology together.
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Right.
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I did he got that done stateside.
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I was like, oh.
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I think I did cackle at the scene of him doing it where he's like, ow, ow, ow, ow, cross crossing his legs.
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And she's pretending to feel bad outside like oh my baby's going through so much pain.
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Yeah, and girl, you put That thing, he didn't even seem to really give a fuck about his hairline.
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You were the one that pushed for it.
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Right.
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Put all these insecurities on this man.
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Could have just got he could have got a little piece at Carrie Styles.
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Oh not Harry Styles.
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That's what I heard, no well.
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That's what I heard.
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Well, that's I mean, you know.
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I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm a white man about to enter my 30s, so I'm sure I'll be there soon.
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Well, you you you you got the little you know, the bang over the forehead thing going.
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You know, Mariah's storyline outside of like saying that she created the group is just walk around with Ada, gone on vacation with the family.
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We see a bit of Miss Lucy and Lake walking around to keeping her company because no one really wants to film with her.
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Yeah.
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And then she asked her little businesses, Cinnamon Girl, which is like a cinnamon-driven like protein shakes and bars, which you know it's interesting.
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I would say the businesses on Married to Medicine this season, they're all unique.
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Like they're interesting things that I'm like some get more real than others.
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Cinnamon Girl definitely seems more of the like spun up for the show variety, but yeah.
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It was at least interesting enough I could see it, you know?
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Yeah.
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No, I got and yeah, and I I think we both um in particular really enjoy on these shows, seeing the businesses and seeing kind of like what these women, I guess kind of the ways they come up with to really like properly take advantage of the opportunity that they have and the platform they're on, um, to kind of generate like additional income and things like that.
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Because that's the thing, when you're doing like when you're doing reality TV like this, like really the the check you get from the show, I mean, it's probably nice, but it's really not where the money actually is.
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It's the opportunities that you get to make money because of the show outside of it.
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The the exposure, being on TV every week.
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It's powerful, it's powerful.
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Mm-hmm.
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And with Mariah, how did you feel when they excluded her from the couple's trip?
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You know, I wasn't surprised because, like I said, I feel like these girls, the moment they have an excuse to do so, they're gonna push this bitch out.
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Um and the thing is, I feel like they were really trying to send like a very clear message to her this season, both through their actions as well as just like what they had to say in their talking heads and what they had to say in their union.
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Like they were making it very clear to her, like, you don't run shit.
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Like, you know, like we we can't ice you out if we feel like it.
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Like it's it was giving that something because it's it was really like girl, like you don't have any like strong allies, like quad was really all you had, and you kind of fucked that up somehow.
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She got carry fired, she got carry fired.
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That thing, yeah.
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I that's like I I love how she's like I didn't, but I'll take credit for it.
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Um but um yeah, no, I just feel like I wasn't surprised, just especially because it like you mentioned earlier, like it felt like a repeat of last season where just like the fight last season happened, and you know, the same thing happened where Mariah was kind of excluded or pushed out a little bit.
00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.159
Um I think it was the same thing to sing.
00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:23.039
I think these women, they I think they probably they saw last season and like all of the Queen Bee shit that Mariah was saying and all the flexing and everything like that.
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And I think they were just fed up with her.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Yeah.
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And I mean Mariah doesn't make it easy because I feel like Mariah is like she has a way, I think, of like, even when people are kind of trying to be on her side or defend her a little bit, like she has a way of kind of pushing people away and kind of just she does kind of being an asshole.
00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:56.879
There's kind of like no vulnerability, no like accountability, like no kind of like little bit of buy-in, which converts to Heavenly, who Heavenly talked crazier than Mariah, but Heavenly's gonna cackle, apologize when she's wrong, and like do her best to move on beyond it.
00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:01.759
You know, Mariah's gonna harp up over one remark you made out of the six remarks in the fight.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:18.159
So that's the thing, is it's like a mixture of the cast, I think, intentionally kind of coming together to ice her out a little bit, combined with her just either she's like not recognizing that's what's going on and isn't acting accordingly, or she just doesn't give a shit.
00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.000
Like, I don't know which it is, to be honest.
00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.240
Maybe she thinks they won't fire her ass.
00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:22.960
Right.
00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:40.000
That's an and I think that's I mean, we see a lot in Housewives, we see a lot of women who on these shows who have this mentality that like they are the star, and it's like, well, I mean, honestly, if the whole damn cast refuses to film with you, they're probably gonna fire you and keep the rest of the life.
00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.679
Especially if the cast is as a whole is working, you know.
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Right?
00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.279
Well, she's still married to medicine.
00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:48.879
I mean, they tried this season.
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I swear most of her seeds were walking around with Ada and Laura.
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Yeah.
00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.159
And then showing up at parties late, making an entrance.
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I know.
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The princess party.
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She loves showing up.
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Knocking shit over.
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That was crazy.
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Showing up late.
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The white charlie, like, oh, you got you gotta wait.
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Yeah, and then boom, making an entrance and knocking over the baby picture.
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That's yeah, that was ridiculous.
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Like, it's just very disrespectful.
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I'm like, okay, girl.
00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.000
Showing up late with her entourage with Lake and his kids.
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Everyone's dressed up.
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Yeah.
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But I like the princess party.
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It was a cute, you know, all casting.
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It was.
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It was cute.
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That's the thing is I feel like the events on the show are like cute and fun.
00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:38.240
And um I feel like they have like they have a level of like kind of upscale fanciness for them, but they're not like too much, you know.
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Like they're not ridiculous.
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They're over the top.
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Well, Toya, the Toya's, was that this season or last season?
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Toya's second birthday party.
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Because that was over the top.
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But yeah, well, I guess.
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Toya's money management skills will continue to be.
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I'm sure we're talking we'll be talking about it in every season's a couple because you know, just the way Heavenly reacted to that damn wine diffuser.
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This is the crap you spend your money on.
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Heavenly loves talking about Toya's finances.
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The thing is, Eugene Love it.
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You know who he married.
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That's what Toya's saying at this point.
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I'm accepting it.
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He there's no way she wasn't like this on the first date.
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So right.
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Yeah, no, Toya, Toya doesn't seem like the type of person that can really hide like who she is or hide her hand.
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Yeah.
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Like I feel like Toya just kind of is as she appears for the most part.
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So I'm sure that man knew exactly what he was getting into when he married her.
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Right?
00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:32.960
Yeah.
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Anything else on Mariah before we get into Quad or her storylines, how she showed up this season?
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I think just for me, Mariah was clicking down this season for me.
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Like she was she already wasn't my favorite last season, but like this season, it just felt like more of the same.
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And I don't know.
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I know, I know she's still gonna be on the show for a while, I believe.
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I don't I don't know if she's still on the show to this day, but um Yeah, I think she's part of the core.
00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:02.160
Okay, let's see.
00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:10.000
So I mean, I'm hoping that maybe in like the next few seasons or something, like maybe she will open up a little bit more and give us a little bit more something.
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Because like I don't necessarily like have an interest in watching if this is just gonna repeat every season where it's just if it's just like a constant the group doesn't like Mariah, Mariah doesn't give a shit.
00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.079
Like, I don't really want to watch that season after season after season.
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It's gonna get boring eventually.
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I know.
00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:31.599
Eventually they need to deal with it, get rid of Mariah, like people work with her.
00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:32.480
Which Dr.
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Simone tried, but we'll get into the dynamics in a bit after we go through everyone, you know, touch on everyone's individual storylines.
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Yeah.
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So then we have Quad.
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The queen of a soliloquy.
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The queen of the gays.
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She keeps the gay around her, and I love it.
00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:48.720
Yeah, Quad?
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Quad is just I think I I liked her last season, and I think this season she was better because I feel like this season she kind of she I feel like she knew what worked for her last season and she honed it in a little bit better.
00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:15.599
Like last I felt like she was a little bit more all over the place and a little a little much at times, versus I feel like this season she pulled it back a little bit and kind of just gave us like straight up what we like about her and not so much what we don't.
00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:17.440
Exactly.
00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.279
And I think you know, she adjusted a little bit.
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She seems more comfortable in the group and in her relationships and how she kind of shows up.
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Yeah.
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I feel like last season it was very much like she just did not give a shit about building these relationships and she didn't give a shit about pissing people off.
00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:42.000
And I feel like this season, like she was able to kind of be more peaceful overall with the group while still giving us entertainment value and everything like that.
00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:53.920
Um and I think she is like, she she's very like emotionally vulnerable, she's willing to share things, she is willing to be open and everything while also being like silly and fun and comic relief at times.
00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:54.640
So I don't know.
00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.640
I think she's a great example of like a sophomore season on a show like this.
00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:00.720
Ooh, I love that analysis.
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Yeah.
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:09.279
But I agree, quad showed up great, and I think, you know, stepping into her own, I think she had the most captivating solo scenes of all of the cats.
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Because as I found her doggy fashion business, wanted to be the dog of the Louis Vuitton of dogs.
00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:16.480
It was interesting, but it was so quad.
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And it's like, as you think about it, it's like, you know, 24, maybe there's a market for this.
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:26.559
Like rich people under dogs, like luxury is the price tag, is what will, you know, people are willing to pay.
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And you know, can you market up something good?
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Well, and if she dog she dresses off Carrie and Chloe like that.
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So yeah, and it's fit for her and how she shows up and what people know about her on TV.
00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:36.559
Yeah.
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I feel like, especially nowadays, what we see, I I've realized over time that like rich people spend their extra money on anything.
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Um, so I'm kind of like, okay, that makes sense.
00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:55.519
And then also, like you said, it felt very quad, it felt very hard because I think if literally I saw anybody else like across Bravo with this same storyline, I'd be like, this is some fake ass like shit that they put on the TV.
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:57.920
But with quad specifically, I'm like, you know what?
00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:59.839
I think like she's being seer.
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:00.480
Yes.
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Right.
00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.640
And then we kind of see her talking about the process, how she gets clothes for the dog, but it's things that you know she doesn't necessarily like are not her.
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:09.039
She's like, I want more bedazzle, I want more sequins.
00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.960
So it's clear there's a kind of like a niche here, or there's like her needs aren't met.
00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:14.240
So she's gonna make it herself.
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:38.559
So obviously I don't care about the business now, so assuming she didn't take over the dog fashion world, but it felt like a natural progression from season one where we saw her like doing this with her own dogs, but like it just felt natural because like in season one, it didn't feel like she was like, you know, setting up the land, like the the takeoff strip for this storyline.
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:39.759
Like it didn't feel like that.
00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:41.119
So yeah.
00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.200
So I didn't it didn't feel like GNA.
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It didn't feel like GNA.
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Right.
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:49.119
Giselle who can't dress, talk about fashion, and who never worked out with the thing in her life.
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.359
At least Ashley is wellness adjacent.
00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:52.160
Right.
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:53.440
Exactly, exactly.
00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.319
And it's just yeah, no, I I liked it.
00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:01.279
And I I kind of liked that it was like this ongoing thing throughout the season all the way to the finale.
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:09.680
Um I was like, I was like, I don't know how y'all managed to like stretch this, like this dog fashion line storyline out the entire season without that.
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:14.079
I feel like they did a good job at like weaving it throughout, where we got like bits and pieces of it.
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.960
Um because I was like, y'all managed to stretch this out the whole season without it getting annoying or tired.
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.640
No, it wasn't better quite well because we see her in the ideation phase.
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:28.720
We see that first meeting with like the lawyer who sets her up with the investor, where Chloe and Carrie are turning up.
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.400
They jump off the table, they pee.
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:31.519
It's a mess.
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:32.880
They ruined that guy's office.
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.559
And then we see her talk to the investors again, which culminates in the final fashion show.
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.160
So we see her growth.
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:39.279
We see a lot of progression.
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:48.960
I think it also helps that she had the more serious, like personal storyline about her and her husband and their like situation with like him wanting to have a child and her not being ready yet.
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:49.920
And kind of like that.
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I'll say it.
00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:52.000
I'll say it.
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:52.319
Dr.
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.880
Greg is officially my least favorite husband on the show.
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:55.440
Yeah.
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Cause how you go, first of all, I can't take him serious with that damn voice.
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:04.960
Trying to be trying to make him like talk tell Quad takes shit serious and that people got shit to worry about, people going to work.
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:06.640
First of all, Quad's at work right now.
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:09.359
Two, this voice.
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.960
Three, you want a baby with no money?
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.519
Like she needs some income streams outside the show.
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Trying to set you up for a baby.
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.680
Four shut up, Dr.
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:20.160
Grant.
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That's all I gotta say.
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:35.279
Well, my thing is I feel like I've seen this story play out before with like um Mar like married these kind of like heteromarried couples where like the man's really pushing for the wife, like, let's have babies, let's have babies.
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:36.319
I want you pregnant.
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:45.680
Um and I feel like my thing is a lot of times there are discussions about kids before you get that far into the relationship.
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:47.279
And I don't know.
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:54.720
I feel like if I feel like if her husband was so serious about having kids, they would have had that discussion.
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:56.960
And I mean, if they didn't, that's on him.
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:06.720
And if they did, and if she said like, hey, I want to do that later, but now he's pushing her to do it sooner, I think that's wrong.
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:20.000
And I feel like I think that thing though is I feel like a lot of times, especially is like people think this about women a lot, that like when they either say they don't want kids until later, or they say they don't want kids at all, people always have this mentality of like, oh, they're gonna change their mind.
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:20.480
It's fine.
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:21.440
That's true.
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:22.240
Yeah.
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.960
So maybe that's what's going on, maybe that's what was really going on here.
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:30.160
Was maybe she told him like beforehand, like, hey, I want to wait, and he's just like, Oh, she's gonna change her mind.
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:31.039
Yeah.
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.200
Which I guess we'll find out more of.
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.880
But also, I just see a lot of incompatibility with like how they show up in the world.
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:38.880
That I'm just like, why are you even together?
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:43.839
It's just giving quad wanted a nice house of big like toilet sexy locked up on the doctor, dude.
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.720
So I think she was like, Okay, doctor, Greg was like, okay, cute wife, you know, and I think we're just like, all right.
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:49.599
Right.
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:55.759
I think maybe they like, I think maybe they should have both had uh more thorough checklists for what they were looking for in a partner.
00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:01.279
Um but also like I mean I I was already suspicious of their relationship last season.
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:12.799
Obviously, when we heard like the drama about their engagement being called off and how that all came to how kind of like their marriage came to happen in the first place, like from the beginning I wasn't sure about this marriage.
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:21.519
And I that's the thing is I kind of I've looked at some stuff for Married Medic Married to Medicine, but also like I'm not very aware of where these ladies are today.
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.160
So I'm like, well, I was like, let me not spoil this for myself.
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.240
Like, let me be at least a little bit excited by what's gonna happen.
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:27.599
So I don't know if they're still together.
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.039
Like, I have no idea.
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:30.160
Well, I know.
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.759
I don't know if I'm gonna leave it to you or not, but it's definitely impacting my opinion.
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.119
But Okay.
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:42.799
Um I I'll I'll just say I'll just say Greg's second wife is a cat becomes a cast member on the show.
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.960
But we will get we will get to that.
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.559
Six, seven months, seven months, I don't know.
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.480
But yeah, girl, so sweet tea.
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:53.680
Sweet tea is something.
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.480
Well, I remember during the sweet tea era, Mary to Madison was just coming on my timeline a lot.
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:15.680
So Yeah, that's the thing, is I've seen like over the years, I've definitely even though I've even though this is like now that we're doing the series, this is my first time actually sitting down and watching the show, I've definitely seen clips and stuff over the years because it's I mean, it's a show that's been on for years, and it's also it's it's in the Bravo verse, and I've been watching other Bravo shows for as long as I have.
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:16.960
So I don't know.
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:22.799
There's definitely times where after Atlanta or Potomac, I just didn't change my TV and watch the random episode of Married to Medicine.
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:32.559
So there's random pieces of lore that I have, but yeah, I do know that piece, which might be lingering in the back on me, but these people are just not compatible.
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.960
But it was compelling to watch, to watch it unfold.
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.039
It's like, yeah, oh, there's a divorce here.
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:38.480
Which they're not the only one.
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.799
I mean, a lot of these marriages seem on the rocks.
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.759
I mean, I think Simone and is CISO her husband.
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:49.119
The husband, like I know their faces, but I everyone's husband, like matching all the husband names is still hard for me.
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:50.880
I think Simone's husband is CISO.
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.640
Like I've seen like they're going through it, but they're honest about it, and I think they'll survive.
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.799
Meanwhile, like Lisa and Darren, I don't think they'll survive, but they act like they're not going through.
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:00.400
It's like y'all are lying ass house.
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.720
They try to like, like when you're watching these shows and they try to play the perfect couple, it's like, ooh.
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:05.119
Right.
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:08.240
Even though you look like a cheetah with his light skinned, curly headed ass.
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:18.400
I just feel like I feel like most like successful, secure, well-off couples probably wouldn't agree to go on a show like this in the first place.
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:23.519
So I feel like going on reality TV is like already red flag number one.
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:29.759
And then I think just in general, being on a show like this is probably just not good for your marriage anyway.
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:30.559
Definitely not.
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:37.839
Yeah, so if your marriage is already on shaky ground and not super stable or really like secure, like this seems like a good way to fuck it up.
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:38.559
Right?
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.160
Which should be a test for Dr.
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.680
Simone and her man's.
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.480
But I don't know.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.799
I feel like they both communicate right about it.
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:45.119
I don't know.
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:46.160
I have faith in them.
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:47.119
I do like them.
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:47.519
Dr.
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.880
Simone is one of my favorites.
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:49.200
Yeah.
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:54.960
But let's get into her, unless you have anything else on our lovely soliloquy queen, Quad Wet.
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.279
Just that I'm a quad stan.
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:58.000
I am.
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.519
Okay, quad stand.
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.640
Last season made me a jack, a Dr.
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.279
Jackie stan.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:04.799
This season made me a quad stan.
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.400
I do appreciate Me some Quad.
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:10.319
I think I'm still a stan of our Dr.
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:10.880
Simone.
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.240
Well, we know I love Meet some Dr.
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:12.640
Heavenly.
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:13.759
I think she's my new thing for it.
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:14.880
Heavenly, yeah.
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.720
I mean, that will be better.
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:18.960
Um I feel like Dr.
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.920
Simone is like the perfect ensemble cast mate.
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.880
She's never gonna give you the most, but she's never gonna give you the least.
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:30.880
Yeah, she can get like a good bridge like a Cynthia, but she can also go and like, you know, be the humor in the room.
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:36.960
And this season we can see, we see her carrying a lot of arguments, cuz she was dragging toy up and down the season.
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:38.079
It was, she was.
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:49.359
I feel like she's kind of like, I mean, I'm not I'm not much of a sports person, but I know that sometimes like in sports that you kind of have like your star athletes where like they're the ones doing all the big flashy things.
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.279
Then you have other like really solid team members of the team that are like doing a great job supporting and they're pulling their weight.
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:56.720
And to me, that's a big part of what Dr.
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:57.519
Simone is.
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.480
I feel like she's not like necessarily the front and center star, but I also feel like she doesn't have a desire to be.
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.839
Like she's not she's not a role player, is what they call it best.
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:18.319
I feel like she's very much the opposite of a Mariah, where she like she doesn't care to be the star, but she's very happy to be there to kind of you know be a solid cast member and do her job.
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:20.079
You know, I think Dr.
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:27.200
Simone, she enjoys like cackling, living her life, and showing, you know, showing off her um practice, probably getting more eyes on it.
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:28.720
She gets to be with her best friend, Dr.
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:29.200
Jackie.
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.960
So I'm sure there's a lot of positives to it for her, but no, for sure.
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.599
Definitely a strong role player, not too much ego.
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.039
And likes to keep things moving.
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.039
The fact that because she was really the one volunteering to kind of bring Mariah back into the fold.
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:41.200
Right.
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.200
Obviously, I'm saying volunteering, but I do think a producer was like, okay, one of y'all bitches, Nita.
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:46.400
Talk to Mariah.
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:47.279
We can't keep doing this.
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:47.839
Right.
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.119
I think she was willing to try to play the peace, the peacemaker role and everything like that.
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:51.680
She wanted to try.
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:52.160
Dr.
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.000
Jackie, it should be Dr.
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.880
Jackie with her Cynthia ass, but she's probably like, I'm not doing that.
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.079
Well, I think, yeah, Dr.
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:02.000
Jackie is more of a like, if she feels inclined to do it, she will.
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.400
But like, if a producer told her to do it, she'd be like, no.
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.319
Yeah, no, she's not gonna.
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:07.680
Like, I don't I don't think Dr.
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.759
Jackie does doing what a producer tells her to do.
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.599
No, not at all.
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.400
I guess let's give Simone some vodka and give it a shot.
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.279
I don't know the you don't even need the prompt, Heavenly.
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.119
She gonna she's gonna talk to come up to you.
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.720
Like, well, I'm gonna ask Toya this today.
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:23.359
Right, I know.
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:24.720
Heavenly.
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:32.960
But um, yeah, like you mentioned with Simone, like kind of exploring some of her marital issues this season.
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:44.799
Um, and kind of I I I I feel like if you have like Mariah and Quad, like the falling out, you see her and Jackie and their friendship remain strong and secure and everything.
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:49.920
And I really like their dynamic, and I I hope that they don't fall out in the future, but you never know.
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:50.319
Right.
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.720
No, especially if she has a deep rooted friendship.
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:53.039
Yeah.
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.480
Or hopefully it's just something, you know, a few episodes and then they re reconcile it.
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:56.960
Right.
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.240
So, you know, they could promo it, but then you know, they're fine by the reunion.
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:00.400
Right.
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:01.119
You know, Dr.
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.880
Simone's personal storyline didn't really change much from last season.
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.720
She's still a workaholic, her kids are still dragging her from missing games.
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.640
She's still still a little upset.
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:14.720
And then the big thing is like the financial stress, which has come up with her practice.
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:23.359
So pretty much she she tried to switch billing systems over, which led to like, I guess she couldn't send out the billing or receive it, so she hasn't been getting income from her practice.
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.759
It's probably just like stuck in the bar, I'm assuming.
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:32.559
So she's in a situation where she's dug into months of savings and is pretty much out of her security nest, which is stressful on a whole family.
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.039
I'm sure she has a I'm sure that mortgage is expensive.
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:35.759
Oh yeah.
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:36.160
You know?
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:36.880
Oh yeah.
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:41.359
And then, you know, so all that they got kids, like, you know, it's a lot.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:45.119
They have a life to live, and her husband's being very, you know, honest and earnest about it.
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:45.680
But yeah.
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.440
You know, we see that challenge, and it's interesting because it's like, oh, that's not really what would come up.
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:55.599
Although I feel like Doctor, when I learned that CISO does IT, her husband's an IT professional, and she did not get him to help at all.
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:55.920
Right.
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.160
I was like, Dr.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:59.119
Simone, I love you.
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:01.039
Exactly.
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:13.440
Like, when I feel like I don't know, because like just in my line of work being in banking and everything, like I don't directly deal with those things like payment processing, merchant services, and things like that.
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:27.279
But like I know enough about it that I'm like, usually, because you know, I've I've seen business owners and stuff that are like switching over from, you know, one uh provider to another for their payment services.
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:36.640
Um and I don't know, usually there's just like a plan in place to pr you know to secure a smooth transition um from one provider to another.
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.480
So the fact that she's having all those problems, I'm like, did you just not have like a good plan in place?
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:41.119
Like what were you doing?
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.400
Were you doing in it?
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:43.440
Probably not.
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.119
I mean, I love Dr.
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.440
Simone, but she seemed a little more loosey-oosey with her practice.
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:49.200
Like I said, this thought would have happened at Dr.
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:50.400
Jackie's practice, you know?
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:50.880
Exactly.
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:55.599
No, that's I mean, that's kind of part of the thing with them, is like they're like opposites, but friends and everything like that.
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:56.160
Cause like Dr.
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:56.480
Dr.
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.000
Jackie's such a hard ass.
00:33:58.319 --> 00:33:58.880
Right.
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:01.440
I mean, we make it work.
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.559
We have some different working styles, but yeah, can you star.
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:06.240
Can you imagine Dr.
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.719
Jackie like managing a McDonald's?
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:09.599
She'd have that place.
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.960
She's like, fries are supposed to be dropped for three minutes.
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:15.280
Yeah.
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.880
You had those fries in there for four.
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.360
And she'd be calling the customers fat too.
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.960
Like, why are you even here?
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.239
Somebody cussed her out over missing an apple pie.
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:28.960
Well, you don't need it.
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:29.440
You don't need that.
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.360
Someone would order fries and she'd give them apple slices and be like, you don't need the fries.
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.239
I don't think I don't think the regional manager's gonna deal with that.
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.960
Yeah, I think I think I don't think I don't think Dr.
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.880
Jackie was meant to to manage a fast food establishment, but she would be better at it.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.360
She would.
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.280
Well, we can get over to Dr.
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.480
Jackie because I feel like Dr.
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:54.079
Simone's solo scenes, not the most interesting, but her role in the group this year, yeah, stronger.
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.079
Because she her virtues Toya, kind of being the intermediary with Dr.
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.559
Jackie and Heavenly and just being a bridge in the group.
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.559
But solo scenes was like, okay.
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:02.800
Yeah.
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.119
You fucked up the transition with IT.
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.440
We can talk about that for one season, but I better not hear about this shit next season.
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:09.920
Right.
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.559
She did eat Toya up uh backstage at the reunion.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.440
Which a dumb rackety ass.
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.119
Which a broke rackety ass.
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:20.800
Yep, she ate her up.
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.800
Damn, the best line at the reunion was happening backstage between film and uh.
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:25.440
That's it.
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.239
Andy had to watch the footage later, he didn't even get to witness it.
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:37.920
She ate Toya up twice because one of my favorite Simone lines was, you don't think, you don't think, you don't think, while circling Toya like a damn shark.
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.159
Well, and it's it's true because Toya doesn't think.
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.920
Yeah, and I've been in a lot of arguments with people where I'm gonna say, you're just a non-thinking dumbass bitch, aren't you?
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:46.639
Right, right.
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:54.559
Sometimes you're just sometimes like you're fighting with somebody and it's frustrating because it's like, we're only fighting right now because you are just not, you're not making a good choice here.
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.119
You're not you're not thinking about what words you're using.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.760
But obviously, I uh it was so funny because they had that argument at Simone's house.
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.760
Well, I guess Simone's on her lunch break.
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:10.400
So Simone, after they argue, Simone's walking away, like, go home, Toya, go home to your house because she has to go back to the practice.
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.960
So Toyota walk her ass up to the driveway.
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:14.719
Let's start taking free throws.
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:25.119
I just I can't imagine spa the thing is like for me, my lunch break like that time is precious to me.
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:27.360
I can't imagine spending it fighting with somebody.
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.719
I would definitely I would tell Bravo to kiss my ass.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.920
I'm not filming on my lunch break.
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:32.400
Right.
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.320
It's not like you gotta go to go back and probably deliver a damn baby.
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.280
It's like it's not just any job.
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:40.239
Right, right.
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.800
It's like she said she's catching babies.
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.760
But the audacity of Toya to go shoot that basketball is kind of why I appreciate her so much.
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:48.639
Oh yeah, no.
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.119
Toya is great for television.
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.920
Um there's a thing of that.
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:54.559
Okay, yes.
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:54.880
Dr.
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.159
Jackie, your former fave.
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:57.039
Your former fave.
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.880
Well, I and she still is a fave.
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.239
I still stand Jackie, but I also I stand Jackie and Quad now.
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.599
Um my thing with Jackie, it sor she would tell me Dr.
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:08.079
Jackie.
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:08.400
Dr.
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:08.880
Jackie.
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:10.400
Uh my thing with Dr.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.360
Jackie is well, eh, I don't like her husband.
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.239
Um I thought Curtis barely on the show.
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.599
But like, but like I don't know, like he's being weird.
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.639
That's the way he's being about like the kid, like the child thing and everything.
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.440
Like, it's just weird.
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.119
It's giving it's giving like some kind of like weird back and forth little game or whatever.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:29.840
I don't know.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.159
Um, and he needs to stop playing with Jackie.
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.719
Uh but so yeah, with Dr.
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:41.280
Jackie, similar to Simone, I feel like there's not that big of a difference between her last season versus this season.
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.760
Like, I feel like she played a similar similar role.
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.000
She kind of gave a similar amount.
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.000
Um, she's still fat, shaman.
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.480
Um, yeah, that's that's a big thing in there.
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:51.440
They're the episode.
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.920
Yeah, her her her and heavenly fighting over and Miss Plus Georgia.
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:57.760
She was in the middle of it, that poor girl.
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:58.400
I know.
00:37:58.480 --> 00:37:59.440
And that's the thing, that's the thing.
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:00.239
It's like I like Dr.
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.559
Jackie, but some of those moments, like with her and everything, like I'm just I'm a little bit like a little bit.
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:05.360
She's like healthy?
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:06.320
Did you say healthy?
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.599
Like she was waiting to drag that.
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.519
Yeah, like there are some moments with Dr.
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.039
Jackie where I'm just like, you're a little too mean um sometimes.
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:18.639
And I see why one of Heavenly's I see why one of Heavenly's first confessionals is I think Dr.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:20.400
Jackie has a God complex.
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.880
Which people say about doctors a lot.
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:30.400
Yeah, well, and also that's coming from the from the lady named Heavenly, so you know that's a problem with if Heavenly saying you have a God complex.
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.880
Um But um I don't know.
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.880
Sometimes I feel like I feel like Dr.
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:45.119
Jackie has some like insecurities that she is just projecting on people around her.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.480
Oh, for sure.
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:49.920
Honestly, most of her solo scenes were kind of boring to me.
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:56.639
I did find like the scene with her practice interesting where her assistant was getting on her ass, like, well, you need to do this, and you need to do this, and you need to do this.
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.239
And she could be like, you know what?
00:38:58.320 --> 00:38:58.719
I need a minute.
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.159
You're being rude, you're being insubordinate in the assistant was giving it back to her.
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:02.559
Like, what?
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:03.760
You hired me.
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:04.960
You hired me.
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.360
That's that it was it it was it was very much given um Sachin.
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.519
You're gonna get in the studio, you're gonna make your music.
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:13.199
And Dr.
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.320
Jackie didn't do that.
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:15.840
She got her car and drove home.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:16.880
She was like, I'm not doing that.
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.719
And I was like, I didn't know doctors were allowed to just do that.
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.480
If you own your own practice, I know that was a lot.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.519
I I I guess I guess you can just do whatever the fuck you want.
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:24.159
Right.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:38.559
Tell that baby, tell that baby it's gonna be delivered tomorrow because that's that's the thing I that's the thing I do really like about the fact that we have a mixture of not just doctors wise but actual doctors, is that we do get to see them at work and kind of see them in their element and everything.
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.280
I find it really interesting when we get to see those moments.
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.920
I don't know they're always talking about what it's always talking about, charting.
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.440
It's always charting with these hoes.
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:46.400
Chart in this, chart them that.
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:47.760
I'm like, what are these hoes charted?
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.119
They bringing that home.
00:39:49.360 --> 00:40:03.440
Yeah, I will say though, sometimes I do feel like the dynamic between the doctors versus the doctor's wives is kind of like sometimes I feel that the doctors do very much see themselves as being like better than.
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.719
Um and like, and I mean, even Dr.
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.679
Jackie with like heavenly everything, where she's like, Well, you're a dentist, not a doctor.
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:09.920
Right.
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.639
It's like it's even like depending on what type of doctor you are, like they're gonna put they're gonna let they're gonna play this hierarchy.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:22.719
There's definitely some of that in here, and you know, intellect and who has it, who does it, and how they view each other.
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:23.679
Although I think Dr.
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.480
Jack, Dr.
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.480
Jackie's definitely the biggest proponent of that.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.400
She's definitely the most pretentious.
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:28.880
Like Dr.
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.800
Simone, I feel like if you are Dr.
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.559
Simone, oh girl, just call me Simone, you know?
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:32.719
Right.
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:36.159
Well, I feel like a lot of Dr.
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:42.239
Jackie's stuff is the fact that she, I don't know exactly how old she is, but I know she's like older than the other women.
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.480
So I feel like it's a generational thing.
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:55.199
I feel like, I feel like especially for her, I mean, I mean, the the the weight stuff definitely is, because I'm just like, I'll take her, I mean, her mom was probably telling her like back in the day, like, put down the fork, fat ass.
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.480
Like, it was probably some generational shit.
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.480
But also, I think for Dr.
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:08.800
Jackie, like being older, especially I think being an older black woman, it's probably more of a big deal of like, you know, I had to like overcome shit.
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.039
I had to work hard to get this degree, to get this.
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:12.960
Like, I want the respect.
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.400
Start my practice, deliver every famous baby in Atlanta.
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:17.039
Yeah.
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.280
I think it's probably it's probably very much a thing of like, I want the damn respect.
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:22.159
Right?
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:23.119
I don't know.
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:24.400
I see why people say Dr.
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.719
Jackie just parades random celebrities around for a season as a storyline because not much going on there.
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.639
So I guess I'm excited to go see Candy and some stir-ups or whatever in the future, because that's how Dr.
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.679
Jackie's gonna be doing.
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:38.159
I know.
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.639
We we even had Dwight this season, not because of her, but we had Dwight.
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:42.000
We did have Dwight.
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:43.519
Cynthia made an appearance.
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:44.239
Yeah.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.639
Um, yeah, I feel and I feel like for Dr.
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:59.119
Jackie, that's just a case of like, she's like, she just doesn't have because sometimes on reality TV, when you're like a well put together, like stable individual, sometimes that limits your storyline potential.
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:00.239
Yeah, for sure.
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:01.679
Because she's on a mess.
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.760
Yeah, I guess all we have is the parenthood.
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.719
Which we do get an interesting scene of her watching Simone's sons.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:07.039
Yeah.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.880
Which I which I was cackling at because they were like, we don't got no food in this house.
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.119
Cause they were saying they were saying over at Jackie's.
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.199
She was kind of just like, I have an apple.
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:15.840
It's a little old.
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:17.440
But would you like an apple?
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.480
And then she fed those boys popcorn and pickles for dinner.
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.400
I'm gonna cuss you out if you fed my babies popcorn and pickles.
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.599
Pickle juice is just so good.
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:29.280
Alright.
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.360
I'll make sure I serve you a pickleback shot at your baby shower.
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:34.880
Okay, pickle shot.
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.920
Well, enough on Dr.
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:38.400
Jackie.
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:39.599
Should we get to our girl Toya?
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:41.280
Yeah, let's talk about Toya.
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:42.880
If if Dr.
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:49.920
Jackie is like someone who's like just not enough of a mess for reality TV, Toya is someone who's just enough of a mess for reality TV.
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.639
Um, Toya's gold.
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.159
I'm sure you don't have to direct her too much.
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.840
He just sits in the chair and starts talking.
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:56.800
Right, right.
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:03.519
And I feel like the thing with Toya is like she's gonna find conflict with somebody because she's just gonna she's gonna rub somebody the wrong way.
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:04.320
Yeah.
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:04.800
Yeah.
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.840
Kind of see her Simone's feud kind of culminate.
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:14.559
That's kind of her biggest feud this year, which is kind of like for Toya because she was bopping Mariah in the head for episode five last season.
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.599
So she's a little bit more muted from the argument perspective.
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:24.800
Obviously, her and Simone go back and forth, but it's just Toya being called dumb repeatedly, and Toya's kind of like looking around trying to ignore it.
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:25.199
Right.
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.800
And kind of, you know, and heavenly being like, well, let's talk about her finances.
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.559
And her extravagant birthday parties.
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:39.039
Because one of her earlier episodes is this just over-the-top party for her two or three-year-old son, which is like, okay, they're not really gonna remember this.
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:40.239
There's a lot going on here.
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.199
Right.
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:42.880
Well, and that's it's Toya.
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:59.760
Yeah, I mean, that's and I mean that's like a Bravo staple is like outrageous pot birthday parties for a toddler or ridiculously like high budget like events and stuff like that, where it's like, it's like you're spending your money this way, and then we find out you're having issues elsewhere with your finance.
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.679
So it's like why yeah once again with a wine diffuser.
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.360
This is the crap you're spending your money on.
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.639
You know, Toya's whole thing is just like she wants a new house, she likes to keep up with the Joneses.
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:12.000
We saw this last season.
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:12.320
Yeah.
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.239
And it just continues on so she has like this new house, they're in the process of buying.
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:16.559
Yeah.
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.199
To the point where she's already buying furniture for her new house.
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:19.519
Yeah.
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:24.960
Nothing's secured or signed, but she's she wants couches and decor and everything lined up already.
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:25.440
Right.
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.599
And then I don't understand this at all, but they had like signs, some kind of escrow thing.
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.320
They had 30 days to finalize some things.
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:39.760
But then they didn't approve I don't know if they didn't approve Eugene and his multiple sources of income and Toya's lack thereof outside of this shell.
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.280
But something happened, and then the people won another 10,000 of them because the 30 days expired.
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.039
And then they didn't want to do that.
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.639
But they ended up renting a house for$12,000 a month, allegedly.
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:51.119
Right.
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:57.920
So there's a lot of doobia stuff in the air, but case in point, they lost$50,000 on a house they did not get.
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.400
I proceeded to rent a$12,000 house.
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:00.960
Right.
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:09.119
Well, and just like that didn't make a lot of sense to me because I now by no means I'm not an expert because like I don't I don't work in the mortgage department.
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.079
I don't do any of that.
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:16.480
But I do working in banking, I do kind of direct people and guide them towards that.
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.360
Um so and like so I'm a part of it to an extent.
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:32.719
And from my understanding, because they're they're claiming the$50,000 they lost was because of that was like their down payment, or um, there's another term for it, but it's basically just like showing that you're serious.
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:33.199
Yeah.
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:48.079
Um now for and so one of my things is like a 50,000 may seem like a lot for us, but for like the house that they were looking at, like the kind of houses they were looking at, like$50,000, I'm like, I feel like the down payment would have been more.
00:45:48.320 --> 00:46:01.360
Um but also in my experience, like when you put down a down payment or something like that, and if something falls through and you end up getting getting the house, like you get that back.
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:12.800
So from like what I understand, the only way you don't get that back is if you have somehow breached like the contract or like you've done something that why didn't they breach it by not going over that 30 days?
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.960
For but I don't know what that what they did in the 30 days.
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.800
That doesn't sound right to me.
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:25.119
And but yeah, and just the fact that like they would be so like, like, yeah, we lost 50,000.
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.920
And like it's it's like in my mind, I'd be thinking about like, um, we're contacting the lawyer.
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:35.199
Um well they did, they did, and that gym that West Indian lady told them they were shit out of luck.
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:35.679
Right.
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.519
It it wasn't adding up to me.
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:46.000
And one thing that I found interesting is like I kind of looked up some stuff about this, and one thing is I saw that apparently like Toya is gonna be like moving to a new house like every season.
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:47.280
So I guess that's a thing.
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.199
Um that's what I've heard.
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:50.639
That's yeah, that's what I was hearing.
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.239
Apparently, people were like, So how many how many times has Toya moved on the channel?
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.199
Um so apparently that's just a thing for her.
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:58.079
She moves a lot.
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:04.159
Um I knew that before we did our rewatch that Toya was known for kind of changing houses and keeping up with the Joneses.
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:04.480
Yeah.
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.840
I thought it was just like people being messy, but it it was an understatement.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:09.519
Yeah, it looks like it's it's for real.
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:16.880
But I so when I was looking up stuff, I found like an interesting Reddit thread where this person kind of came up with their theory on what was going on here.
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.320
So I just wanted to like kind of skim over it a little bit.
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:28.159
So um in the Married to Medicine subreddit, this person's um handles Professional Car 2282.
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:33.840
Um, Toya, Eugene, and the$50,000, breaking down my theory.
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.880
I was re-watching season two, episode eight, and it clicked for me.
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:41.280
Eugene mentions that he was trying to purchase the house under his medical concierge business.
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:47.920
I imagine that he put that business under an LLC and writes himself off as someone independently contracted under his business.
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:55.840
I have done research into the benefits of purchasing a house under an LLC, though the risk is just as high when considering interest rates and down payments.
00:47:56.079 --> 00:48:03.360
Personally, if you look at the house they put down money on, I couldn't imagine a bank approving them for a loan with only a$50,000 down payment, which was what I was thinking too.
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:04.719
Um, it looked very expensive.
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:12.400
And give Toya being a stay-at-home mom, not making much from the show at that time, establishing themselves as trusted lenders would be even more difficult.
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:18.480
But if the$50,000 uh down payment isn't accepted by the seller, then how could they have lost the money?
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:19.920
This is where my theory comes.
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:26.000
This person thinks the$50,000 down payment was uh money from a separate loan and not from their own money.
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:35.519
Um they said, I imagine that Eugene took$50,000 out in his name, which created pressure for him to be accepted for a mortgage loan.
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:44.960
If approved, the mortgage loan could offset the down payment that likely came from the personal loan, or Eugene got a$50,000 loan as a business loan under his medical concierge LLC.
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:58.559
But with it being newly established and not seeming as profitable, there could have been distrust from the bank and having it put under the LLC, since it could indicate Eugene individually not having the funds therefore there by not being a reliable lender.
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:08.800
So the loss element is based on the fact that whether or not Eugene and Toya got that house, they would still be the response the ones responsible for the loan that got them enough money for the down payment.
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:24.719
They probably were trying to kill two birds with one stone and getting that mortgage loan, but the unwise transition to renting that 10K a month house may have been their way to pay back the down payment loan without being tied down to HOA fees, property taxes, um, um, and et cetera.
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:31.440
The lease to own line Toya use makes more sense since they could have been going for another loan before realizing their tax debt in season four.
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:32.559
Sorry for the spoiler.
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.800
Oh well, I don't think that's much of a surprise.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.840
I'm not shocked at the least.
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:40.159
Right.
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:43.599
If you told me a cast member had tax issues, I'd be like, Toya or Samo?
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:44.320
Right.
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:45.199
And what's Simone?
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.639
I feel like Simone's the type that have tax issues because she didn't file something, because she was just like, oh.
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:49.199
Right.
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:59.199
Well, I I mean, honestly, this theory makes a lot of sense to me because just based on what we know about Toy and her husband and the weirdness of it, they kind of see, and like we know about her need to like, like you said, kind of keep up with the Joneses.
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:09.599
Um, I feel like this is a type of situation where they'd be trying to like take loans out, move data around, things like that to kind of make things work or look a certain way.
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:16.320
And I agree because Toya said something along the lines of like, oh, they're worried how this black man got all this money.
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.800
So to me, I was always worried of like they think the medical concierge business didn't make enough.
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.519
Because I'm sure his doctor income is consistent, stable, I'm sure it's like a W-2 situation.
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:32.239
So I'm assuming they were using that concierge to kind of prove money, but they weren't, you know, maybe the cash trail didn't match up.
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.159
So that was always in my head as a piece, but I was like, how can you take that?
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.119
So the loan against it as a theory makes a lot of sense to me.
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:39.360
Yeah.
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:39.679
Yeah.
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:47.679
When the thing is when you're applying for a mortgage, but a loan of any kind, you know, there's like so many factors they can go off of and determining whether or not they're gonna approve you.
00:50:47.760 --> 00:51:04.800
I mean, they look at, um, you know, they look at your credit, they look at your debt-to-income ratio, they look at um like the length of income, they look at all of your the lengths of all your credit lines, they look at um, in some cases, they look at your relationship with the bank that you're trying to borrow from.
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.079
If you have a relationship, like a pre-existing relationship with that institution.
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:18.639
Um, and like, you know, I don't if they have um Toya and her husband both on there as applicants, you know, they're gonna look at those things for both of them.
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:32.159
Um because like I've seen situations where um there's you know multiple applicants on an application and everything looks good except for maybe one applicant has really bad credit and that tanks the whole thing.
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:34.159
So there's a lot of things that can go wrong.
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.000
That makes sense.
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:37.679
And I I don't know.
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:44.000
I've never personally seen Toyo Bush Harris's credit, but if you told me she had bad credit, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, I'm a paul.
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:44.400
Right.
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.920
Like if you told me Jackie had bad credit, I'd be like, mm-hmm, no, really.
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:48.639
Right.
00:51:48.880 --> 00:52:00.800
Well, depending on how the depending on how they list applicants and stuff, because like um typically for loan applications, you can only you can only list income from like a borrower.
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:10.000
So depending on like if they're doing it under their personal names or has LLC like in what income they're trying to list, some income may be disqualified and things like that.
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:17.760
Toya the one who needed to start a business of all these people, but needs to be hot slint.
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:18.559
Right?
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:19.760
You don't care.
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:27.599
I found if Toya had a honestly, she might as well just waste the business and spend the 50k there because walking around a boutique doing nothing for a storyline.
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:28.320
There you go.
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:28.880
There you go.
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.840
I can definitely see Toya walk around a boutique talking about these are my employees.
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.800
Yeah, should we get to oh oh I was just saying I I would be I would be interested in watching that.
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:39.440
Right?
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.039
I'll I'll I would give it a glance as her storyline, not as a solo show.
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:43.760
Not as a story.
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.039
Honestly, Toya can, I don't know, Toya can maybe carry a solo show.
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:48.480
Possibly.
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.159
At least an episode of Trading Spaces gotten we we know she's moved enough times.
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:52.880
Cool.
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:57.840
Well, let's get to my personal favorite this season, newcomer Dr.
00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:59.039
Heavenly Kimes.
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:06.159
Yeah, so Heavenly Um, you know, we we did spot her last season at the at the big party.
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:15.199
Um but um she she becomes a cast member this season, and Heavenly out of everyone, she was the first married to like medicine cast member that I was aware of.
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:21.920
Because like, I think I said this in our last episode, but like if I hear about someone with the name Dr.
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.920
Heavenly, I'm gonna be I'm I'm gonna want to know about that.
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:25.199
I'm gonna be like, who's Dr.
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:25.840
Heavenly?
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:26.880
And she says it too.
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:27.760
Google me.
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:29.599
Yeah, I'm like, Heavenly.
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:37.519
Um, and yeah, no, definitely like when I when I talk about like I've seen clips from the show before, a lot of those clips have featured her.
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:44.480
And I'm sure I was curious to see because I feel like this season she was relatively tame to the clips I've seen.
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.760
So I guess she's gonna turn up a little bit more later on.
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:55.119
Um because like going into this season, like I kind of expected her to be a little bit like wilder um based off what I have seen.
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.039
No, she kept the cut as at the mouth.
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:58.719
She definitely was feisty, but yeah.
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:00.159
No, uh she dipped her toe in.
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:01.360
She dipped her toe in.
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:02.239
Yeah.
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:02.880
Yeah.
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:04.800
I never thought she would come in on a hundred.
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:05.920
Well, I think, yeah.
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.880
I mean, that's I think that's normal for a first season cast member.
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:17.119
It's kind of like you're kind of like coming in, feeling out your spot in the group, feeling the dynamics, like, you know, you may not be super comfortable yet being on in front of the cameras and whatnot.
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:17.679
Mm-hmm.
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:19.280
Yeah, so we get a little bit of Dr.
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:29.039
Heavenly, who was a dentist and her practiced, but a lot of her solo scenes are like mostly her at home, like with Damon or with Alora, who was a star and my favorite child on the show.
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.480
Although a lot of the children are funny.
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:36.719
One of Simone's sons, I don't know if it's Michael or Miles or if those even them boys' names, but the younger son is very funny too.
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:41.760
But Alora is her, she is a mini version of her mom, and heavenly knows it just cackles along with her.
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:42.239
Yeah.
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.719
She asked Heavenly like, Do you just like talking about yourself sometimes?
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:48.880
And she's just like, Well girl.
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:54.800
And then after um Mariah just stormed in and knocked things over at the party, Alora gives her recap.
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.679
Like, she did walk in breaking stuff like she owned it.
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:58.480
It's not her party.
00:54:58.559 --> 00:54:59.599
She didn't have made an extra.
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:00.719
Not like she owned it.
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.800
And I'm like, this girl's an old soul.
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.760
She she's on, she's up to something.
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:16.880
Um no, I that that girl, that girl just set me in that's I mean, I she really is just her mother because like I feel like Heavenly's kind of an old soul too, because she kind of presents older than she is.
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:27.519
Like she kind of gives like that older church lady vibe and everything, with kind of in the same way like Phaedra does, where it's like, oh Jesus, like yeah, no, that's I see that like the Phaedra's energy.
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:27.920
Yeah.
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.480
And her whole thing outside of just being chaotic was she was like, Oh, I'm submissive with my man, but yeah.
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:34.639
I still don't know if it was a bit or not.
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.199
If she just wanted to bother them ladies, or she's really submissive.
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:37.760
I think it was.
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.480
She might believe that she is, but I think she believes it.
00:55:52.719 --> 00:56:09.360
Um well the thing is though, is like, because you know, when when especially like when we're talking about like, I don't know, like those kind of like old-fashioned, like southern, submissive, like submissive wives, a lot of times those wives actually have a lot more power in in the household than you would think.
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:10.639
Like, sure, there may be a lot of people.
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.840
But he's getting he's getting manipulated in play.
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.639
I think heavenly just means well, I cook for my man.
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.480
We do see her make a little bit of bacon, even though Alora declared she was a vegetarian.
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:24.639
Well, I think I went back and got a little peace.
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.320
Yeah, I think she just appreciates some old-fashioned, you know, like gender roles in the marriage.
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:31.920
I think she would just say it.
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.159
And knock the demon ass is going.
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.360
I don't think he's used to going along with Heavenly's bed, and he was just like, mm-hmm.
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:37.840
Yeah.
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:43.679
Well, I feel I feel like to me, the kind of the pushback she got for that seemed a little much to me.
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:44.320
I was like, really?
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:45.679
Like, I don't know.
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:52.880
Cause like I feel like, I mean, if she wants to be a submissive wife or present herself as such, then who cares?
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:53.440
Right?
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.599
I think I would be annoyed by it if she was like a casty type, like casty from Euphoria.
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.400
Oh, but Dr.
00:56:58.480 --> 00:56:59.280
Haven't is not.
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.599
I was just like, I guess I don't even believe her.
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:03.039
But like it's a bit.
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:04.480
I'm like, is this girl serious?
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.519
Like she kept on the in the first episode, I was like, oh, this is a bit.
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:09.280
But she kept doubling down on it.
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:10.880
So I was just like, is this not a bit?
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:23.679
Well, I think I feel like to me, I would have found it like more annoying or whatever if because like there are some of those people that are like, um, oh, this is how I am my marriage, and this is how the rest of you should be in your marriages, too.
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:23.920
Yeah.
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:25.679
Like that would be annoying, I think.
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:31.519
But she was more so like and she made sure to iterate at the reunion to kind of be like, in my opinion, that's how I married.
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:33.039
That's true.
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:36.639
Although she was kind of saying Simone and Jackie, like, oh, y'all don't cook for y'all mad.
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:38.480
I guess, yeah, a little bit.
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:41.440
And then Dr.
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.039
She was talking about I cook for him every night.
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:43.280
Dr.
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:45.760
David looked like you lie, but I'm a Nado, because we all camera.
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:48.480
But I don't know.
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.000
He seemed like he loves it there.
00:57:50.159 --> 00:58:05.119
Heavenly talked about her personal situation, like being bigger and losing the way, and kind of like kind of like, you know, I don't know the word I'm looking for, but you know, it was a good background behind her feud with Simone and why she kind of spoke up for Miss Georgia Plus or whatever that lady's title was.
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:05.840
Georgia's.
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:10.000
So you know, we learned a little bit about Heavenly throughout the season, but not a lot of solo seasons.
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:11.840
I think she shines in the group scenes too.
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:13.119
So it makes sense.
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:20.639
I mean, yeah, it's not like hers are uninteresting, but there's not really a lot of drama in her marriage, and she seems to definitely be more present.
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.039
Not like accent, I don't know.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.079
But there seemed to be a point of contention with her kids of her missing things.
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:26.480
Right.
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:35.039
Heavenly very much felt like the type of cast member where it's like production's like, okay, we're we already we already have this established like group and dynamic.
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.039
We're just gonna drop her into scenes and see what happens.
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.000
See what she does.
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.119
And it worked out great because she was a firecracker early on.
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:47.199
I think she started off hot and kind of reeled it in as like the couple the whole cast situation maneuvered, but still gave her input.
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:47.360
Yeah.
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:52.719
So I think she did it quite well to show up as a firecracker, establish herself, but not be overbearing with it.
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:53.280
Right.
00:58:53.360 --> 00:59:05.360
And then I feel like she did even if she reeled it in, like as the season progressed, or like at the reunion and stuff, she did like she still kind of like stood her ground and didn't really back down from anything she said or did um for the most part.
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:10.079
So I feel like she had like a very, very, very like solid, good first season.
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.280
No, she's smart, she navigated the situation very smartly, I think.
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:24.400
Yeah, I feel like she she was able to kind of like have like moments or drama or conflict or whatever without necessarily being like Mariah and getting herself completely just isolated and excluded.
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:26.320
Exactly.
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.800
And now I want to No, for sure.
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.320
I think it was an ideal debut.
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:32.800
Yeah.
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:38.960
And I can see I can see why this kind of like was the foundation for her becoming like a long-running cast.
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:40.400
Oh, yeah, mainstay, definitely.
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:40.639
I know.
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.880
Lisa Nicole just gives a couple seasons.
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.920
I think they definitely cast her to get the dare and fall out.
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:52.480
And maybe add some professionalism to the show because I would say her events and conferences were some of the realist I've seen on these kind of shows.
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:52.800
Right.
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.159
Usually it just gives, you just gotta cater her and you want somebody to talk up there.
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.000
But her hers seems like legitimate.
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:01.760
Like, oh, you run galas, you do events, like that seemed real.
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:08.800
When I I like that it kind of, because like this season, like we got rid of Carrie, we brought in her.
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:16.400
Like, I feel like we're kind of getting like we're kind of like leaning more into like a bit of a better balance between the the doctors versus the doctor's wives.
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:16.960
Mm-hmm.
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:18.559
Oh, for sure.
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:22.800
Because yeah, we we added one dentist, so you know, doctor in that realm.
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.639
And then we added another doctor's wife.
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.239
And they seem like they genuinely like kind of knew each other, well, were aware of everybody.
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:31.199
So I don't think anybody just got dropped in randomly.
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.480
Although I do think Lisa Nicole, well, heavenly was such a strong baby.
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:38.000
It's like so in comparison, Lisa Nicole already looks muted.
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.760
I do think, unfortunately, she's not very interesting as a person.
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.440
I think her storylines, you know, the things she does are relatively interesting.
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:49.679
I think, you know, Darren's definitely gonna be cheating again, and that's gonna give us some drama.
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.000
But Lisa Nicole herself.
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.159
Her and Mariah are definitely like the least compelling in the inner.
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.440
I'm sure going through their interview tapes was like the least interesting, you know?
01:00:59.679 --> 01:00:59.920
Yeah.
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.400
No, she put me to sleep a little bit this season.
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.679
But I love seeing her run around at a conference.
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:09.920
I'm like, this isn't the show for you, but I would watch you on like a professional bit show.
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:10.719
Right.
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.119
Which is kind of weird.
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:19.760
Like, yeah.
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:25.679
If this was like modern housewives, it would definitely be like heavenly bringing it up episode five at dinner.
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:27.119
So dare be stepping out.
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:27.440
Yeah.
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:34.719
I think because it's like earlier in the show's history, we see it kind of unravel at the reunion a little bit, which we see Andy kind of put the girls on her.
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.840
But before that, she's kind of just like, oh, I do businesses, my marriage.
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.800
It's not like it's not giving, oh, my marriage is perfect, but it's definitely not giving he's cheated three times.
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:43.119
Right.
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:48.320
Yeah, well, for sure.
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:49.119
Which I don't know.
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:54.960
You I thought you could predict that by looking at that man, but I don't know, that maybe that's just me.
01:01:55.280 --> 01:02:02.480
Well, um anything about Lisa Nicole though, her storylines, any fun moments?
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:08.400
She seems nice, but like I just found her just not very dynamic.
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:14.320
And like, even at the reunion, I felt like the other women really like barely even noticed she was there most of the time.
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.559
Well, unfortunately, this isn't her last season because I know that she throws a whole cup of water on Kwa.
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.079
So what a you haven't seen that clip.
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.960
She goes, What about your lesbian relationship, bitch?
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:32.639
And then it is the most direct level, like, because she throws, you know how people throw a club and they kind of like go like diagonal.
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.719
She grabs it and like throws like forward.
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:36.400
So all the water gets onto Kwa.
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.159
Like she gives she baptized Kwa.
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.000
So we have that to look forward to.
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:42.960
So I got it.
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.719
I don't know if that happened this season or like next, but so at least it definitely comes back.
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:49.199
So I guess she's not gonna be a snoozer the whole time.
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:49.679
Okay.
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:57.119
I mean, maybe that's her one at the moment, but I always thought she was only there for one season because I never really saw her in clips or gifts.
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.440
Well, she kind of felt like a one-season wonder this season.
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.360
Like, that's the vibe she's giving.
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:05.280
Well, I thought so until the end, and I'm like, oh, they definitely want to see the Darren drama play out.
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:06.239
Right.
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:10.559
Because there's no way they're setting all that up after reunion for them not to go ham on it next season.
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:11.039
That's true.
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.679
So maybe that was like their mom, like, okay, we'll give her another season.
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.000
And then none of them all seem like cheaters.
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.519
So, you know, it's like the season seem like he'll step out.
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:21.679
Eugene clearly loves it there with Toyota.
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:24.559
Damon loves it there.
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:27.679
I don't think Greg loves it there, but who Greg pulling?
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:29.760
Quad the bad at the chicken pull.
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.599
So I mean, do you disagree?
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:34.400
No, I agree.
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:35.039
I agree.
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.880
And and I don't, I feel like I I'd barely register Curtis on the screen to have an assessment, but right.
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:41.760
Right.
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:42.800
No, I agree.
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.320
So um did you did you miss Carrie?
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:47.360
No.
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:49.280
She showed up at a little bit.
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:50.239
I was like, oh, okay.
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:51.119
Yeah.
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:55.039
But I kind of, yeah, no, I didn't really miss her this season.
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:03.679
Like she was I think, you know, uh as someone who was on the George Lopez cast might have said, I'm glad we finally have an all-person of color cast.
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:04.239
Right.
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:11.840
They kind of, because I think I said this in our last video where I feel like this was like still in the era of Bravo where they were like, oh, we need to have at least like one white bitch on here.
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.840
Um it was kind and she and so she was kind of filling her Kim Zolsiak role.
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.320
But they got rid of not know Kim Zolcia.
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:18.880
Nothing.
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.199
They got rid of her a lot faster than they got rid of Kim Zolcia.
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.320
I mean, Carrie was definitely given the least.
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.519
And her husband seemed to type to be like, my image, is that fighting?
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:29.039
Yeah.
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:29.920
Yeah, no.
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:37.679
I felt like I mean Carrie like had her moments last season, but like that's the thing, is like really her absence was not felt this season.
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.840
It there was no impact from her being here.
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:40.079
Yeah.
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:47.599
But I do think it was interesting as like we saw a different perspective of Carrie as one of the doctors' wives, because she was like, she handled the administration side of his business.
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:52.719
So it was definitely like more of like a pairing, while like the rest of them kind of seemed like tangential, you know?
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:53.199
Yeah.
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:57.119
Which I wouldn't want Toya doing the administration of my own thing anyway.
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.519
But I feel like Quad would do a good job.
01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:01.199
I agree, I agree.
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:04.880
Like when she was like, Oh, I was the top salesperson from our region, I believed it.
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:09.679
Seeing how she delivers a confessional soliloquy, can you imagine Quad in a sales meeting?
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:10.239
Oh, yeah.
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:12.639
Quad definitely has the personality for that.
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:14.880
Quad could quad can sell, honey.
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:15.440
She can sell.
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:18.559
She would sell me one of them damn dog outfits.
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:20.159
I don't got a dog, but I'm like, this is cute.
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:20.960
This is cute as hell.
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:21.280
I'm gonna go.
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:25.840
That put a yoke.
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:32.159
But I think that to wrap it up, some of like the key group feuds, dynamics.
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:41.679
Like, you know, obviously we have what highlighted the season was the downfall of Mariah and Quad, and that kind of permeated throughout the group, but no one was really team Mariah.
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:42.639
Right.
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:56.639
So it made it it made it not as interesting, I think, because I feel like it was one of those things where in like theory it could have like divided the cast into like kind of taking sides and everything like that and kind of seeing how that plays out.
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.440
That just didn't happen because it was pretty much everyone was.
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.480
Everyone was either firmly on Quad's side or they were just like they didn't really give a shit.
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:05.280
Like they were indifferent.
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:06.320
Pretty much.
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:10.159
Which is why like that kind of bubbles over by midseason.
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:16.079
Obviously, they still hate each other and have a lot of contempt, but people can stop caring as much.
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:21.519
And it's just Mariah being iced out and Simone trying to play the bridge, but you can tell Simone won't even care that much.
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.880
Cause once you get some pushback, she's like, okay, so no Mariah, all right.
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:25.840
Right, right.
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:38.239
She's like, yeah, it's it's kind of like sh she was like in the indifferent category where she's like, I'm gonna try to be peacekeep peace peacekeeper, but I'm also not gonna get cussed out, like trying to, like, I'm not gonna push that hard.
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:39.119
Yeah, exactly.
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:42.719
But it did lead to one of my favorite quotes of the season, which came from Mariah.
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.480
When they tried to vote her out, she says, This isn't Florida.
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.599
No, no, she said, This is Florida, and I'm George W.
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:51.440
The votes don't damn count.
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:52.559
I was just like, damn.
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:55.039
Of all references to pull out.
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:55.360
Right.
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:56.719
But she was she was accurate.
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:58.800
I mean the votes in Florida didn't count.
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:00.000
She's George W.
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:00.639
Okay.
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.760
I I did well, I mean, I did I did love her quote.
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.400
I will not come off my chariot to throw tomatoes with you.
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:09.920
That was given qua, just the dramatics of it.
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.800
It was like y'all are matching each other's energy right now.
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:14.239
Not saying yeah, exactly.
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.800
This is why y'all should be friends, but right?
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.639
No, Mariah's good for a little one-liner, a little chariot moment.
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.920
And she's clearly passed it down to her children because Lauren gagged up talking about mom, your life is like chess.
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:27.119
And I was like, ooh.
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:33.920
I will say though, I feel like Mariah, some of Mariah's lines, they feel very rehearsed to me.
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:34.719
Oh, for sure.
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.360
I'm like, you practice you you pulled a fader and practiced this in the mirror before you came to filming today.
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:44.400
Yeah, no, because off of the air of it, I definitely think Heavenly and Simone are the more off the cuff ones.
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:44.719
Yeah.
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.679
Like broke raggedy ass and slipped off the tongue so quick.
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:48.159
Right.
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:49.679
No, she did not pre-plan that.
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:56.239
She didn't she was thinking it, but she never thought it before, but then in that moment, she's like, Oh, you calling my mother and skill.
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:57.840
In that moment, she felt it.
01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:58.159
Yeah.
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:13.440
Um yeah, no, like like when Mariah, like, just like the way it's delivered feels like a rehearsal line, and then also like sometimes the way it's inserted, it feels like she was just waiting, like she knew what she wanted to say, and she was waiting for a moment where it would make sense to say it.
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.079
Yeah, pretty much.
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:26.319
But yeah, I think for me, like my shining stars this season were like Heavenly, Quad.
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:31.119
Uh I would say Heavenly and Quad were kind of like my two shining stars this season.
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:36.640
Um, I feel like Jackie and Simone provided great like, you know, kind of team support.
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.199
Toya kind of was just Toya.
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:42.159
Um I appreciate her for that.
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:50.000
Um, and then Mariah was just on the outs, you know, try like it was kind of hard to watch.
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:52.640
Sometimes I might damn think like Lisa throw her a bone or something.
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.800
Uh they could have produced that better, but Mariah probably put herself in this corner.
01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.359
And we see her bullying the hell out of Lisa at the reunion.
01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:00.159
Yeah.
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:02.960
I don't know why she zeroed it on her as a target, but right.
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.279
Clearly they see Lisa to get jumped next.
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:06.560
I don't know, but right.
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:09.680
I could see that be Mariah's way back in the group for the thing.
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:16.880
Because Andy asked Mariah at the reunion, like, do you like, do you see anyone in here that you would still consider like a friend that you there's a chance with?
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:19.119
And she basically said all of them except for Lisa.
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:30.960
So I think I think Mariah's maybe starting to see the writing on the wall, and maybe she's gonna like change her tune a little bit moving forward to try to get back in good with and like kind of repair some relationships.
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:37.920
Because I mean that's well, that's the thing, is just knowing that she's gonna remain on the show, I feel like that's the only way I see it working.
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:46.560
Um, is either she's gotta fix these relationships and dynamics and change her attitude, or they're gonna have to like bring on new cast members as allies for her.
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:47.920
It's gonna have to be like one or the other.
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:48.479
Yeah.
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.760
Is it that I was this week thinking, like, oh, she wants it to be an all-black show?
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.159
But I do think Lisa Nicole might identify as black.
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:55.359
I'm not quite sure.
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:57.199
I looked it up and I did not get an answer.
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:01.119
So I will DM her and find out, but I just Dr.
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:02.800
Wendy told me I'm not qualified.
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:03.439
Or Professor.
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:09.520
I was gonna say you started talking as a uh Professor Wendy told me I'm not qualified for this conversation.
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:10.159
Right.
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:11.680
Well, you know what?
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.439
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna consider her.
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:20.800
Well, maybe Mariah just sees it easier to set up a jumping on Lisa next season and she can kind of bond with the girls that way.
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:21.520
Yeah.
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:23.119
But we'll see where that goes.
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:23.840
I don't know.
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.720
Maybe Mariah and Toya can be friends for once.
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.000
Yeah, I mean I I feel like they get a lot.
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:30.960
I don't know why they don't.
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:46.800
I wouldn't know why they don't, but I will say Toya, part of what changed my opinion of her this season a little bit was because now it's two seasons in a row that she's been involved in like well, she was involved in a physical altercation the first season, then she was involved in an almost physical altercation at the reunion the second season.
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:57.920
And my thing with her is that like A, whether you want to admit it or not, because she wanted to claim she lunged at her a hug.
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.119
It's like, no, you I don't think you were lunging at her to hug her in a break.
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:08.960
Um but I just feel like the the thing with Toyota is after she like like she very clear was gonna try to swing on Simone.
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:16.960
Yeah, and then like the moment it got broken up, she immediately started crying, just like she did when she fought with Mariah the previous season.
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.399
Like immediately once the fight was over, she's in tears crying, playing victim.
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.399
And that I don't really like that.
01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:26.880
And also the fact that it's like she's been the common denominator two seasons in a row makes me be like, okay, Toya.
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:27.359
Okay.
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:32.399
Okay, I will say I think they were the more like angry tears, frustration tears, and trying to be the victim.
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:37.760
I do think her aunt was lying about it later, but I do think she's definitely like, I don't want to be a black woman fighting on TV.
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.439
And she's like, God damn it, I did it again.
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:46.560
So I think personally, I think the tears were that, especially if she like went up to the dressing room, was off to the side with like I don't know who it was.
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:47.840
I think who was comforting her?
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:48.479
Evanly.
01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:49.920
Somebody was comforting her.
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:50.239
Yeah.
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:52.159
But I don't know, yeah.
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.319
I don't I don't think it was trying to be the victim.
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:55.039
I mean, yeah.
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:57.760
I don't think Toya likes to play, but Toya Light starts it.
01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:58.960
She kind of knows it.
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:12.239
I just think it's I just think it's like a Brandy Glanville or like a Porsche where it's like when when you're involved in like not one, but like multiple physical altercations or almost physical altercations, I start to be like, okay, there's a common denominator.
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:14.239
No, for sure.
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:14.640
Yeah.
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:21.279
And I think the Simone and Toya feud was very interesting because they're both very like fun, jovial people who blended to the cast well.
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.840
And just the nature of their disagreement was kind of stupid.
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:29.520
It was like, yeah, oh, Simone was dancing on Eugene, gyrating on him, but like it was clearly not like sexual.
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.680
There was no like you know, evil intent.
01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:32.880
And Toya knew that.
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:36.000
I think Toya's whole thing was like, well, I told you once, you didn't fucking listen.
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:37.520
And Simone probably was like, shut up, huh?
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:37.920
Right.
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:40.399
Which I I I see the miscommunication there.
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.159
But it kind of got dragged out for me.
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:49.520
It did not need to turn to this, which you know, and now they now they beefing for real because Simone done called her a broke raggedy ass hell.
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:55.680
So yeah, and and and the and the words of Bucky from Flare of Love, I didn't think they were gonna get into it, but then they did.
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:58.000
In between the reunions.
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.680
I know backstage of reunion is wild to me.
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:02.640
Yeah.
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:07.279
But no, I think this, honestly, I'll say season one was definitely more exciting.
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:07.600
Yeah.
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:11.520
I do think the added episode ordered had them, they had to add in a lot more.
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:11.840
Yeah.
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:13.279
Which, you know, extending the show.
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.359
It's a good sign for the show, but I do think, you know, season one was packing punches, back to back.
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:17.760
Right.
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.479
But season two definitely was more narratively driven.
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:25.760
We learned a lot more about the women, their marriages, and the the relationships between them, which was strong.
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.279
And I do think it set up some great foundation going forward.
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:34.079
But I wouldn't be surprised if like they're married to Medicine Die Hard don't rate season two that high.
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:35.119
Maybe they do.
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:51.520
What I found interesting was that when I was like, when I was putting like into search engines and stuff or YouTube or whatever, when I was putting season two in, I really didn't get like people like don't really post a lot of like clips from season two.
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:55.199
People don't really like have a lot of discussions about season two.
01:13:55.520 --> 01:14:12.000
Like from what I've seen, and I don't know if maybe if the show just caught on more over time, but from what I've seen, like when I try to look up content for Married to Medicine, I feel like around season four is when I start seeing more like clips being posted, discussions being had from like season four onwards.
01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:12.720
That's what I see.
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:13.439
That makes sense.
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:17.039
Probably like a slow build kind of vibe, and then the cast gets into their stride.
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:17.279
Right.
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.159
So maybe that's when Quad gets, you know, gets the baptism.
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:21.279
But no, it makes sense.
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:34.239
The only clip I really recognize that I've seen on socials from this season is Simone saying, You don't think and it was kind of it wasn't like a super viral clip, it was just something I saw was like, oh, this is funny as hell, because yeah I could see myself saying that.
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:36.720
So it wasn't anything very big either.
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.920
So and I've seen which broke Raggedy ass before too, which I don't know came from this early on.
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:44.560
But yeah, aside from that, there's not many big moments.
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.159
So I'm not surprised either.
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:46.960
Right.
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:54.640
And I think just like I think especially with season one, because like the Mariah and Toya like physical fight happens in like I think it was like episode four or whatever.
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:56.399
It happens like really early on.
01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:02.800
I think you know, you didn't really necessarily have anything this season that like matched up to that level of just like craziness.
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.319
Yeah, so it's more like subtle, but I do think it set the show up well.
01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:14.000
And the show's still trying to find its identity in like you know, the casting, the mix of like how much business, how much relationship, how much marriage stuff.
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:21.279
And you have to keep in mind in 2014, like Atlanta was doing the same thing as well, still figuring itself out, even though that's when it like hit its virality.
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:26.640
So when that's the thing is like this is a spin-off of Housewives, but it's also still like it's got its own identity.
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.359
And I think that's I think that's part of it too.
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:48.640
I think you kind of see here, like you see them testing things out where like obviously the show kind of has like the real housewives formula, but you see them branching out and editing things and trying things to see maybe like what fit like what are good ways to differentiate it from housewives and what are other things that it's like no, let's stick to that and not you know go like stray.
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:55.279
I know, like we see them take a trip this year for the first time, which is a housewives staple, a little couples trip, our vacation moment.
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:58.479
Which, you know, it's a little local, it's like a little cabin, not that far from them.
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.760
But I do wonder if they'll get the international trip treatment going forward.
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:03.920
Oh, I'm sure that would be interesting to see.
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:12.479
You know, I would be very interested to see specifically with our doctors, so Jackie, Simone, and Heavenly, as they become more of reality stars, how does that impact their work?
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:19.680
Are they getting, you know, hiring new doctors, NPs, or something to kind of, you know, work with them as they have more reality TV duties?
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:21.039
Does it get more difficult?
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:26.079
Like I'm curious if they explore, I mean, I'm sure they will, but to what extent they explore that side.
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:26.399
Right.
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:34.880
I know I've seen a lot of random like Atlanta celebrities or even Housewives of Atlanta beyond married to medicine with Jackie, so I'm sure it's still part of her storyline.
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:41.680
But and I'm interested to see how it impacts like their practices and you know, how they identify as a doctor versus a reality star.
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:42.399
Right.
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:51.840
Well, and I feel like cause like on Housewives and stuff, you kind of see some of the cast members that are like working as professionals, whether it's like a doctor or an attorney or whatever.
01:16:52.239 --> 01:17:01.199
A lot of times you kind of do see them like after they've been on the show for a while, you kind of do see them to an extent kind of like drop that career.
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:12.319
Um because I mean like I know like Emily on Orange County, she's like she's technically, I mean, she's an attorney, but she doesn't practice anymore and that she's like a full-time like reality TV star.
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:13.600
Right.
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:14.800
No.
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:16.000
That's a lot of them.
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:19.119
Maybe phage or practices still, I don't know.
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.439
But you know, I'm very interested to see where they go with that.
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:22.159
But absolutely.
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:22.640
I don't know.
01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:25.199
Being a whole doctor seems like, oh I'm not doing that anymore.
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:26.079
That seems a little crazy.
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:26.479
Right.
01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.239
Well, it just it seems like a lot to balance.
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:29.680
It seems like a lot to balance.
01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:34.239
But maybe you can like go down to like part-time, oh, I only take one, I only do one birth a month, you know?
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:34.720
Right.
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:52.479
That's the thing is I feel like if it were if I guess if it were me in that situation where I was like an attorney or a doctor or like whatever, um, in one of these kind of career paths, I feel like I wouldn't necessarily completely stop, but I'd probably slow that down so that I'm not just like dying trying to do both abstract.
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.880
It's like when bitches make their cameo price like$400, so they don't have to do a lot of them.
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:57.760
Right, exactly.
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:01.199
It's like I'm gonna still I'm gonna I'm not gonna do as many, but I'm still gonna make a little bit of money.
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:01.680
Right.
01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:03.359
I'm gonna get to the bag.
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:04.159
Right.
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:06.640
But definitely the cast chemistry is locking in.
01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:08.479
Momentum is building.
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:14.640
So if you're re-watching with us, you might agree season two is not the most exciting, but if you disagree, let us know your thoughts.
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:16.640
But I am excited going into season three.
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:18.399
I think there's good groundwork set.
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:20.239
I don't think the cast needs any changes.
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:28.079
Like I think they could run it back, maybe at a strong friend, but I want to see, like, I'm I think they've left off on a good place to continue with this core.
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:40.159
Yeah, no, I I really hope we don't get any major shakeups for right now, because I do like kind of I kind of want to see this through and see uh in the words of Lisa Barlow, I want to go the distance with this.
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:46.000
Um I really want to see how because like I feel like there's just so many different possibilities here and dynamics of this group.
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:50.399
I really want to see how they play out if we just leave them alone and let them and let them do it.
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.279
You know, a little production, but just let them live.
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:53.520
Right.
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.520
Well, because I might have them in your toy go wild.
01:18:55.840 --> 01:19:11.920
Yeah, because I I hate sometimes when I'm watching these ensemble shows and I feel like they do a cash shakeup unnecessarily, and I'm just like, and there's just like things where I'm like, okay, well, there was like some really interesting, you know, ongoing storylines and dynamics and stuff that have now just been dropped because you fired her.
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:12.319
Right.
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:14.000
Or played her with some new bitch.
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.840
Which thankfully I don't think Married to Medicine has that problem, but we shall see.
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:25.680
Yeah, from what I've seen, it it seems like a lot, it seems like it's a little bit like Potomac, where a lot of the OGs kind of stay on for a long time.
01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:27.600
Yeah, and maybe they'll fight back and forth.
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:30.960
Like I'm sure Heavenly and Toya will get into it, just knowing their personalities.
01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:31.680
Right.
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:36.479
Even at the reunion a little bit, they were like, Heavenly's like, you said she's not the brightest in the group.
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:38.239
And Devin's like, well, she's not.
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:40.159
And everyone was cackling.
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:40.800
Right?
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.199
But you know, in Toya's defense, she's not, but it it's it's a smart group of women.
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:45.439
Right.
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:46.560
Three doctors.
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:53.920
I think it's kind of like be being being the least bright in this group doesn't necessarily mean you're dumb.
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:59.039
Yeah, because uh in the basis of reality stars and brave lepretes, I uh there's definitely dumber than Toya.
01:19:59.119 --> 01:19:59.359
Oh yeah.
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:07.039
She's not the smartest with her money, but like Toya's smart, she gets references, she's quick on her feet with like the comebacks, like I think no, she doesn't think as much as Simone.
01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:10.239
Simone may disagree, but you know, something's clicking up there.
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:14.319
You know, in this cast, probably one of the smarter reality TV show casts on Bra.
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:15.119
Absolutely.
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:17.840
You know, you yeah, you're not the brightest in the group, Toya.
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:18.399
And it's okay.
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:20.479
But because like I mean, I don't know.
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.399
Mariah seems with the type that she was in advanced classes just to say she was in advanced classes.
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:24.960
Right.
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:29.840
You know, even the non-doctors like Mariah, Lisa, Quad, like, they're just so eloquent.
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.079
And then you just thought you see Toya, it's like okay.
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:43.680
Well, I feel like at le at least for now, like at this at the stage of the show, I feel like there's there's a certain level of like requirements that you have to meet to be able to get on this show.
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:57.520
You know, like it's like I feel like you kind of have to be a little bit more of like a higher class, like society type and everything like that, whether you are a doctor or you're married to one of these doctors or whatever, like to run these circles and everything.
01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:03.039
Like they're they're not, you know, they're not cast in broke bitches like Gina on Orange County.
01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:07.359
I mean, we'll see what happens with Toyota's fine answer that the show goes on.
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:13.359
But you know, Lisa has a lot going on for herself with her businesses, and then you know, quad has a lot going on for herself.
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:14.640
Quad's very fun.
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:17.119
So I mean actually I don't know what quad.
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:18.159
I don't know.
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:21.279
Maybe one day maybe one day they'll cast a veterinarian.
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:23.119
I'd be here for that.
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:24.000
Hope Dr.
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:25.279
Jackie is not mean to that.
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:26.479
Oh, she will be.
01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:29.039
She's gonna tell them they're not a real doctor.
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:31.039
How about the dog doctor over there?
01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.720
I feel like she'd be shady and call them a dog groomer.
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:45.359
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