Jagger Eaton

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Light on set. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Lan's Body Podcast with
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your host Benji Weatherly. It's the
podcast where you learn absolutely nothing. Here
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we are Let's Potty, episode fucking
whatever, season two whatever. I think,
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I don't know, but yeah,
we're coming in hot with a young
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talented young man that I'm more intrigued
about talking about golf with this guy because
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I saw that swing on Instagram this
morning and I just I want to go
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bang sticks with you, like for
real. Like it's funny because if you're
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into golf, it's like a different
it's a different thing because it's it's one
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of those things where Michael Jordan,
the greatest athlete of all time I'm says
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golf's best game in the world.
And you're like a lot of people I
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don't golf for like golf, you
fucking fat ass, and so I'm fucking
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weird pants and shit. But when
you do it, you're like, oh,
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this is something that I can actually
never get really really like as good
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as it gets. And there's not
many sports out there that are like golf.
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So and when when I'm talking about
is our newest member of Let's Potty
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is I'm gonna ask you where this
name came from. Was your parents a
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big Rolling Stone fan? Jagger?
Is it? Yeah? Well yeah,
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both my parents were big Rolling Stones
fans. So I think it was our
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first day. I don't know what
happened after. I don't know what happened,
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but somehow. But you're the second
kid. I'm the second kid.
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Yes, so the first kid was
named Mick. Just kidding, No,
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no, but you are the second
of two. This is Jagger eating eating?
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Is German? I am not sure. I think it's. I I
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I twenty two. Did you I
found out? I think my parents did
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a while ago. I think it's
German and English. Okay, cool,
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Well we welcome to the party.
And yeah, I mean there's so much
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shit. All I know is that
you're twenty three of probably probably a top.
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I don't know. I'm gonna try
to explain what this young man does
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for a living. He's in the
middle of vert skating and street skating.
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He can do both. But it's
like when I grew up, the guy
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ruin was Glifford. How do you
say? Sameford? Yeah, he was
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a little older than me, but
he skates. When I watch you skate,
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I'm like fuck, he's like the
young version of them, and uh,
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it's like a transition for people out
there don't know. Skating transition is
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more vert and like ramps and like
quarter pilots and everything in the streets usually
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rails and you know, street skating. He does both, and they call
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it park right, street park,
that's kind of mainly what you compete at,
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right, Yes, yeah, yeah, so I compete in in both
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the two Olympic discipliness parking Street.
Oh you do street too, street as
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well? Yeahkay, cool, You're
gonna have to explain a lot of this
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because I'm a dumb surfer. But
yeah, I see all the time you're
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I'm like best friends with Mark McMorris
and he's he's kind of like the snowboard
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of you from what I gather and
I watch. I'll watch you guys all
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the time. You guys are our
generation was not mainstream, and it's so
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nice to see you guys are mainstream
and still fucking core skaters. But you
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get taken care of by like I
saw an Instagram clip this morning, and
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you're fucking get interviewed by Snoop DOGG
and Snoop dog didn't even know what skateboarding
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was in the nineties. He's like
skateboarding, what now He's fucking hanging with
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you and talking shit, And it's
just insane that you get to hang with
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celebrities. Rubebbells, I think I
saw you at the Ryder Cup, Am
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I right? Or a golf tournament
or something. Yeah, yeah, so
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I was. I played the programmatry
Pines, That's what it was. I
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was super grateful to have a really
good relation with PGA. But would you
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play with who's the pro? It
was Adam Shank and JJ Spahn. Can
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you imagine if your last name was
Shank and you golf? That's fucking scar
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That man was so pure ridiculous,
Like your people don't understand, like the
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pro am round for people, Like
for those PGA pros, they're literally just
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there like kicking it. They played
Tory Pintes competitively for the last like ten
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years. They walk up to par
threes that are two thirty two forty yards
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and they're hitting three irons to six
seven feet and like on their phone the
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whole time, like cruising and I
got one eighty five with people behind me
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watching, I'm like feeling all the
pressure and see, I love that because
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he respects it so much. I've
been really good friends with Adam Scott and
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I've caddied twice in tournaments and we
got seventh place. One time. We
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almost won at the Sony Open in
Hawaii. And to get to be next
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to a pro athlete, there's no
other sport like it. I'm sitting there
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pulling clubs for the bat. He
was number one golfer in the world at
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that moment too, because he just
won the Colonial and he fucked You're just
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like he's saying, you walk up
to this part three and you can't even
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see the flag. You're like,
what the fuck? And he's like,
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I'll tell you, I'll hit six. You're like, it's two thirty.
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What are you talking about? And
I mean they always stick it and if
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they miss the green, you're like, oh shit, here we go.
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It's like deepest bunker you've ever seen. And they hit it to two feet
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and tap in for parry and walk
away. For us. When we're in
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that position, we're like, let's
just not triple this, bitch, let's
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go. But yeah, it's really
exciting. I was doing what you're doing.
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I was traveling the tour, doing
my thing. And I'd bring my
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Mazuno MP thirteen's and these are little
blades because I was I was on the
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Cohuku golf team when I was fourteen
in Hawaii, and I love golf,
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and I'd slide away my board bag
and woul dang all the rails and everything.
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We'd get to like Reunion in South
Africa, and I'd be like,
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hey, guys, I'm gonna golf
because it'd be windy and blown out after
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we film, like you're going golfing. And then I got Kelly into it,
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and Machada grew up golfing, so
we'd always kind of battle. The
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whole point is is like when you're
in these different countries, do you find
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time to go golf different places like
South Africa. I mean you've been all
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over the world, right. I
golf everywhere I go six like religiously.
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And I think a big part of
it for me is is I try not
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only like traveling, but in everyday
life, like I try to manage my
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distractions. I think that's a big
thing, is being an athlete nowadays,
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Like I don't I'm not on social
media, I don't do any of that.
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Like I'm really kind of try to
just be as disciplined as possible with
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what I'd surround myself with on the
daily. And golf for me is like,
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especially traveling, it's like the raid
Us escape and you know, yeah,
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you know Jef Jewet too. Yeah, so Jeff was my first ever
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skate coach and I was six and
he used to golf my dad when I
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was so young and didn't have the
temperament to get through eighteen holes. And
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now when we travel together and stuff, when we go, we're having these
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matches everywhere we go all over the
world. Game is good, Jewet's good.
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Good, that's awesome. Yeah,
I think, yeah, he's got
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me one time. So you talk
about the Ryder Cup. I was in
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Rome the same time it happened,
but I was competing the World Championships in
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Park, so you and checked it
out. I wish we went and checked
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it out. But me and Jewett
did play golf in Rome and he got
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me one day and I was very
upset. But yeah, he's got he's
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got a good game. That's dope. And I saw another clip. I'm
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going to go through your Instagram just
an hour ago, and it looked like
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you were doing all these over the
FedEx Cup. Is that the FedEx Cup?
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That was What the fucking hell are
you doing it at the Fedix Cup?
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So for all you out there,
don't GoF FedEx Cup is like the
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final finale of the tour and they
give him like fifteen million dollars and you
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gotta be I think it's like the
top thirty gets the last championship and then
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the guy wins gets his fucking Gnarley
trophy. How the hell did they give
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you that thing? And how the
hell were they filming you all over it?
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Yeah, it was super random.
So I got hit up by by
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my connects at PGA and they said, hey, we would love to do
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a skate project, including the FedEx
Cup, and I'm like okay, Like
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I love all the guys, all
the everybody that works and I've met at
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PGA are so professional and kind and
so rad and interested in what I'm doing,
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which is so rare, like especially
in golf, Like they're interested in
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what a skater's doing, which is
so rad that is. And they hit
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me up and they're like, hey, we'd love to do a video,
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and I'm like, okay, I
can be available tomorrow, Like okay,
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we'll fly the FedEx Cup out.
Where was it here? It was in
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Florida. Okay, they flew the
FedEx Cup into San Diego Airport at seven
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in the morning. Is that the
real one? That's a real one,
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dude. It was. It was
like it was out of a like camera
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case, like a like a pelican. It was the real one. Yeah,
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and they need to put together.
The girl was wearing gloves. I
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was like, all I was thinking
was like, if I hit this cup
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right now, and you guys in
this video, please go to his instagram
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and check it out. He's literally
all in over the whole thing off,
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just like a little like hip and
your way above it. But what if
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you hit that fun it's like the
most important trophy in golf pretty much.
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And were they even worried the girl
with the glove, Like, don't fucking
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hit it. I mean, it's
like spilling mustard on a master's coat.
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That's like, That's what I was
like. If I hit it with my
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board, like I'm gonna be ridiculed
from every golfer online right now. I
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thought you might even just do a
little nose grind on it. No,
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no, but it was super cool, Yeah, super cool in promo.
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Yeah. Yeah, so they ran
it in promo and also at the time,
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like I think the big thing for
them was they they just like to
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cross. They like to cross promote
a lot of their stuff. So I
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escaped, I'm going a pro skater
and make gives them street cred a little
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bit. I mean no, My
thing was like, can I just get
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around at dvc zawras Hopefully it's in
the word what he's talking about. The
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TPC just ended last weekend Sunday and
it's their Tour Championship and it's it's in
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Jacksonville and it's like a Disneyland for
golf. Every hole is like a miniature
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golf hole that like Happy Gilmore's fucking
made. It's insane. I played it
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when I was younger, but it's
so nice man. Yeah, So that's
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your goal, is just to keep
doing what you're doing. Backer. He's
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only twenty three years old, so
he's right there in the beginning of this
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fucking insane career. He competes on
all the things like X Games and tell
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us about this Olympic thing because I
know all the people that I know that
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have been in the Olympics, because
in my generation there was no Olympics,
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so this is a new thing we're
on. Like for you, it's like
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year or two, I mean the
second or third Olympics. You guys have
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been both second Olympics and the first
one you won. Google bronze, bronze,
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and dude, he has a fucking
goal. I mean, a medal
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from the Olympics. That makes me
even more like Mic Morris. You know,
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he's like the best sobord, but
he keeps getting bronze. This one
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we're going for gold, dude,
let's go. Yeah, we're going We're
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going for gold this time. But
yeah, do you think about the Olympics
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ever as a different contest or is
it just just another connesstune? I mean,
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I think if you think about content
any different than each one as far
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as importance, you're gonna kind of
blow it out mentally. I think,
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for me, every time I get
it, competents a chance for me to
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see where I'm at as a competitor. I don't look at the Olympic Games
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like anything different than another contest.
I actually look at it like easier.
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Making the teams is the hardest part. So for people to understand the Olympic
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qualification process for skateboarders is a year
and a half of strict world skate competition.
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There are Phase one tournaments, and
within those Phase one tournaments there are
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World Championships, and the Phase one
tournaments are worth fifty the World Championships are
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worth eighty thousand points, so fifteen
eighty thousand points. Basically, over the
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course of a year and a half, you have to be top three in
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your country consistently through the whole process, and then it's decided if you make
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the team a month before the Olympic
Games, so you haven't even qualified.
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I haven't e qualified yet. No, right now in both events and Parking
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Street, I'm ranked top two in
US for both, and I have two
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more phase now we're in the Phase
two events, so two more Olympic qualifiers,
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and they're worth if they're worth six
times what Phase one contests are worth,
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so they're worth a lot more.
Going and these are all over the
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world or just America. The next
ones in Budapest in May and then Shanghai
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in June, or no, Budapest
in May, Shanghai in July, and
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then the team's picked. Damn,
who's our American hopefuls? You and who
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else form America and in Park it's
me, Gavin Buckner and Take Crewe,
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Tom Shar, Liam Pace. There's
five or six of us who are who
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are very competitive. Niger doesn't fuck
with that. So well that's Park for
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Street. Yeah for Street. Nige's
number one, I'm number two, Alex
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Miller's number three, Chris Johnson's number
four, Brandon Hope is number five,
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Chris Jocelyn, He's my favorite skater
ever. Like, I just hit styles
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so stupid, it's insane. And
I'm friends with Danny and Colin McKay.
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I played, you know, Callin
McKay. Of course my first board sponsors
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playing B my first she was on
the DC, I was on, I
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was on there. I was on
Planing Me DC for ten years and I
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honestly didn't even see myself leaving,
Like planming DC was like that was everything
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when I was young, DC,
Plan B that was it. Oh my,
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that was it. Yeah. They
would come out with the decks.
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I'm I'm best friends with the people
from Pacific Drive, you know, a
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skate shop. Yeah, and uh, they would come out with the new
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decks and they always have the funniest
graphics and it was all Danny McKay and
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they had the best team. I
mean, I base my healthy. Yeah,
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Chefy's yeah, Chefy's I see him
all the time. The other day,
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Yeah, you're still doing this ship
and he was doing rails. I'm
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like, you're fucking five years older
than me, what are you doing.
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That's the thing about skateboarding, like
and surfing. You could just get into
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a lawnboard and start kind of I
was. I even told Cheffy that day
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when I was talking to him,
I go, it's crazy when you get,
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you know, into their fifties and
stuff. If you're gonna try to
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do a rail when you land,
it's it's life or desk. Still,
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Like when you go surfing, you
can just cruise. But you guys,
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it's hard to be a pro skater. You know what. We had Cheetah
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on cheato Vera the Fighter, Yeah, and we talked about it. Most
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UFC fighters, as soon as they
retire, they don't fight anymore because it's
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not like, you know, when
you're forties, you're like, let's go
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fight, like you know. It's
like just like you you're not going to
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be hopefully skating park when you're fifty, but you might still be doing it.
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Like Chevy because you know, it's
just a matter of if you can
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tolerate it and your technique's good.
But yeah, it's it's an amazing thing
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to see Chefy out there doing real
still, No, it's amazing. I
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mean, Sean's an amazing skateboard Yeah, I mean, and go back dating
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call and like I based my whole
skating style off of what I saw them
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do in the DC video, you
know, them taking street tricks to vert
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ramp. Was like, that's everything
to me, you know, And I
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think, and it's funny when you
talk about like Cheetoh because he's an amazing
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fighter. And I fought MMA for
five or six years when I was a
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kid, and I same with this
little girl. Yeah, yeah, I
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love boxer kickboxer. Wow, like
moy Tire, Yeah, started in Oise
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high and then eventually just kind of
added jiu jitsu into it. So ended
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up in MMA. Oh that broke
her jaw a few times, and the
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doctors like, I probably shouldn't do
this, did not break my job?
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What happened again? I basically destroyed
my jaw joint from getting punched in the
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johns too many times. Yeah,
yeah, that happens. Yeah, isn't
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it great? Though? Like I
tell this, I tell this that all
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like all the few assholes don't look
like guarantee you guys whoop ass at it?
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Yeah, yeah, I mean well, And I always preach this,
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Like I tell A lot of parents
come up to me and they ask about
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like their kids, because raising kids
now, like you know, I'm nowhere
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near being a parent, but like
it's so gnarly now with kids and what
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they're exposed to a young age.
And I tell them to get into fighting,
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because I'm like, what fighting teaches
you is not to fight like it
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teaches you. It teaches you humility
on the basic level. Yeah, kids,
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when you're twelve thirteen years old by
somebody much bigger than you and getting
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tackled and grappled and it is tough. Dude, that's the greatest thing you
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can ever say. What you just
said. I had a older brother.
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I'm my whole life has been humble, and I know my place right.
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I grew up in Hawaii. I
was a white kid in a school of
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no white kids, and my brother
was a motherfucker. He was an MMA
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fighter basically, and so I had
that humbleness and that's why I had respect.
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You're so oh right. These young
kids man, there there are pajamas,
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electric bikes, smoky pen fucking helmets
hanging off their back of their head.
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They're not even looking. And I'm
like, that kid needs to going
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on to the UFC gym and get
because you could have been more wise by
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saying that, because that's totally true. Like these kids need to go in
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there and get choked a couple of
times, be like, oh shit,
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I'm not the man. I've got
to figure this out why. I mean,
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I had an older brother too,
and we when we when we fought,
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we fought together, and there's no
there's no feeling like your blood boiling
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getting into a fist fight with your
brother. Like and me and my brother
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like it was scary because when we
would fight as a kids, we would
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like slap and stuff, and then
when we knew how to fight, we
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would get these scraps that were so
gnarly, Like I mean, my my
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mom my, poor mom. Man, Mom, if you're watching this,
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I love you so much that with
so much stuff with me and Jet,
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yeah, we we just went through
it. But yeah, again, like
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I said, I think it's really
important for every kid to learn that you
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were like, never gonna let your
brother fucking beat you at anything, And
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that's what makes your drive so so
wrong. Right My brother is two seventy
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five right now, almost sixty four. He's a giant monster and as we
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call him, the big Mean.
So I always felt like if I can
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get through life not scared of him, then everyone else is nothing. And
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I would never let him beat me
and serve conness. I never let him
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get better at anything, and so
that drove me and then like for Jet,
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was he doing the same things as
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does golf? Is he a bad asset
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golf too? He okay in golf. He's got to work on his on
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his mobility little bit in golf.
I do a lot more yoga than my
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older brothers. So he's gotta he's
gotta get it just a little bit,
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uh, a little bit more him. But uh yeah with me and Jet,
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we both got skateboards when I was
four and he was six on Christmas
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Day, so we got skateboards.
What board was it? It was a
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blind board. It was the blue
Monster board and it was a complete I
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don't think my parents really knew much
about skating at the times. So he
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bought us a complete it like at
the local ski shop. Yeah, and
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we got that together. And I
I preach this always like I wouldn't be
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anywhere if it wasn't for my older
brother falling in love with it. He
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fell in love of skateboarding for I
did, and I just want to be
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like him. I was just like
Morris. Yeah, I mean I don't
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know much about was his older brother
got him into it? Oh yeah.
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His older brother was two years older, I think two years old, just
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like yours, and he was unbelievable
skateboarding all the little videos that's he's like,
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I'm gonna get better than you.
Fuck this, and then he just
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kept building. And then you know, the younger brother usually does take over
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to say that, guys, but
I made it. You made it.
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Mark made it. Not to say
our older brothers didn't make it. But
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you know, it's well, I
mean, unfortunately, what happened with my
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situation is Jet was the pioneer for
all of us young kids unverse skating like
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me, Tom Mitchie. Jet was
the first one spinning five, doing front
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rodeos, all that stuff. And
he was also the first young young gun
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to do a full pull on Mega
and Mega rants where we all got our
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start. And at the time Jet
was thirteen, I was eleven. And
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when he was skating Mega, he
unfortunately had a really bad incident and uh
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it kind of it put him out
of Mega a little bit. And at
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the time when that happened, he
had an invite to X Games in LA
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that year. Wow. Yeah,
and he unfortunately had to miss X Games
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because the injury. But Jeff Jewett, he saw my situation and he saw
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me progressing rapidly on Mega, and
I kept doing it and loving it and
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loving it and he said that if
I can get a run that was good
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enough to compete in the twenty eleven
games, and I would go twenty twelve
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games. I could go. And
I know eleven. I was eleven years
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old. Yeah, when that with, Your mom must have been shitting her
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pants when you were on that mega
ramp. Dude, my mom, she's
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a same eleven went she went through
it with eleven years old? What's going
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through? Okay, you guys,
the people out there don't know what a
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mega ramp is. It's like surfing
a thirty foot way with jaws and you're
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eleven. It's so crazy. I've
been on the top of that thing looking
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down and going all right, well
that's fucking death and you're eleven. What
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do you literally at first drop in
at eleven? Did you go off?
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Obviously the little, smaller one first, and then you went up to the
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very top. There's different sizes and
shit. Well, the one that I
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started skating was at Woodward and it
was just a mellow rolled into the fly
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box and then go into X games
and this is a steep one. It's
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a whole different ball game. How'd
you do? And when you're eleven,
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did you make a couple of heats, or yeah I made the finals.
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Yeah, I end up getting seventh
or eighth and in finals, which is
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dead last. But at the time, all I was thinking is like,
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I'm next to ba burn Christ right
now, like and he's doing he's doing
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the front side seven leans to back
seven to faki at fourteen feet high.
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All I was thinking was like,
I can't believe I just get to sit
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and watch this right now I'm doing
I'm doing my backflip to five that's like
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five or six feet out because I
weigh eighty five pounds socd wet, I
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can't even get out of quartered by
it. But man, it was seriously
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a dream come true, Like it
really really was for me, and that
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was where I got my start and
since then, you know, it's just
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it's been I'm so fortunate to be
where I'm at now. Yeah, I
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mean that's what makes your guys genre
of skateboarding, Like I grew up where
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if you're a street skater, you're
a street skater. If you're a vert,
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vert like that, and your generation's
like our generation is surfing. John
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John John John when he was a
little kid, I'd go watch him skate
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the park at pipe and I'm like, oh, he's a pro skater,
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Like this is unbelievable. He's doing
these you know, like indie grabs over
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method, over the whole fucking hip. And I'm like, wait, he's
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ten and he's this good at skateboarding
and then he becomes the best surfer in
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the world and then he still can
skate and everything. But for you guys,
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I mean, you're eleven and you
start skateboarding, you went from mega
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ramp, you do vert obviously.
I have a weird relationship of vert,
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man. I was kind of scared
of vert, really vert gnarly for me,
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like like all of my buddies too, like Tom, and like Tom
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specifically Tom some vert take crew rip, some vert like and for me,
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like I washed that and I'm like, dude, I'm not going nine feet
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high out of vert ramp Like that
freaks me out. I would rather I
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would rather do flick back over kreaking
a deep end of a bowl than do
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a five nine feet out on vert
ram. But that freaks me out.
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It just it just comes or doesn't
come to you right now. Yeah,
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It's like MiG Morris, he's a
slope style guy. The best of the
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world. But he doesn't like vert. It's like, what are you talking
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about? You should kill those guys
in that, like Sean White best vert
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slopestyle. Eh, you know,
like fuck, it just comes natural to
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you. But the vert ramp is
it seems like vert ramp you have to
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be dialed in for every hit and
no matter what. So it's like instantly,
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instantly, instantly, instantly with your
you're skating. You guys are in
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the bowl and you got time to
think, like fuck, you can change
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this stuff while I'm going. It's
more of a flow. The other one
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is like boom boom boom boom boom. Well, I love the technicality of
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park skating, like I love how
many things you need to be good at
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right, Like I love that you
need to have gnarly deep end tricks and
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pocket tricks and volcano tricks and flat
and uh and flat wall tricks. And
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I love that for me because that
is a great way to progress. And
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what you love doing is to learn
all these different areas of park It's like
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it's like golf. You need to
drive the ball. You need to have
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your short eye creative too, right, you gotta let the creativity come to
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just just come naturally. Yes,
Like when you start a run. This
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is a really important thing for me
to ask because I always wonder you guys
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kind of have a run set in
your mind. It seems like when you
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watch it, you know, they're
like, Okay, he keeps and then
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even the announcers like okay, he's
coming up for that huck truck fucking whatever,
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and they know all the moves.
But do you ever have right before
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you go and run You're like,
you know what, I'm just gonna fucking
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let this go and just do whatever
the fuck my mind thinks. So about
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the time, like, do you
have run set and you do that run
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or is it something when you drop
in you're like, fuck, I'm just
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gonna hit everything and try you know
what I'm saying, Like the runs are
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always set. It's never they always
set it right, It's never impulsive.
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Especially, it can't be imparted.
It can't be. It can't be in
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park because one thing that people don't
understand is that in park you need to
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maintain speed or the judges willed it
up right. You can't make it any
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mistake. Yeah, well you I
mean, yeah, you can't make any
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mistakes. Until the time's off,
right, So like you got forty five
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seconds right, and and at forty
five second and if you end with speed,
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the judges will like that. And
if you if you like, I
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have a problem, right, because
sometimes I get too technical and that was
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my issue, right, Like if
you saw my runs four years ago in
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park compared to now, they're completely
different. And because four years ago I
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skated park like a street skater and
I need to start skating parking more like
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a first skater and still have my
street stuff, right, So it's like
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a it's kind of that balance and
strategy of finding where how to be individual
405
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:27.480
but also how to hit all the
judging criteria and be able to get points.
406
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.400
So you've evolved into more of what
they want to see kind of thing.
407
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.039
Yes, yeah, yes, this
fucker doesn't wear pads and I know
408
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.880
that out there they're like, what
do you mean by that, doesn't wear
409
00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.680
helmet, doesn't wear pads, doesn't
wear anything? Right, you just skate
410
00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:42.200
straight up in the street. I
skated straight up, but in park I
411
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.200
put on paths and helmet out.
Oh you do. Yeah, Well it's
412
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.839
actually so here's the thing is it
became mandatory in park so well, and
413
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.640
it was really recent since it happened
like the last time two years ago or
414
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:57.160
a year and a half ago,
I was skating park no pads and yeah,
415
00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:03.359
a mandatory, and it becoming mandatory
kind of helped park to elevate a
416
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.519
ton because now there's a lot more
risk to be taken cool because you're in
417
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.519
your knee pads and helmets like big
way surfing with a little vest and a
418
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.160
jet ski that picks you up and
stuff. It's just a little bit safer.
419
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.720
I don't, I don't, I
am. I'm from Arizona. I'm
420
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:19.319
a desert rat. I saw one
clip of you and it was just paddling,
421
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:25.799
like, well, you know,
he looks good out there. You
422
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.200
do everything, though, man,
I just going through your Instagram. You
423
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.480
golf, you surf, you fucking
skateboard. It looks like your snowboard.
424
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.680
Obviously probably funk around with that yet
a little bit. Yeah when I can.
425
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.559
Yeah, it's pretty cool to see
though that you're doing exactly what you
426
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:38.960
said. You said You're like,
you know, you'd use your time wisely
427
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.559
to keep keep your head space,
you know, clear into golf. I
428
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.960
mean, not to go back to
golf all the time. But it's like
429
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.960
when you're out there and you're challenging
yourself mentally, it teaches you how to
430
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.799
be calm when you make bad mistakes
and then recover. And then at the
431
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.079
end of a hole, you went
from here to here to hear, but
432
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:56.680
you part and you're like, see, yeah, I don't need to hit
433
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.200
that shit straight, you know,
like it's it's a real achievement of mental
434
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.000
strength. I'm golf, so when
you get out there. I took Adam
435
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.480
Scott to pipeline. We went swimming
and a fucking eight foot wave land on
436
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.839
him. He almost drowned and I
had to get him out there and I
437
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:12.279
had to swim into this current.
The next day he's in the pro am
438
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:17.160
at Sony Open and his confidence was
like, fuck, I just surve pipe,
439
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.240
and it was telling the media in
front of me, Yeah, we
440
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:23.720
surved pipe yesterday. And I'm like, dide, we swam pipe. You
441
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.359
know that we were with our arms
and there was no more you want to
442
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:32.240
say that though, He's like we
served pipe. I like look side eyed
443
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.359
at him, like surf huh,
dope. I was like, he almost
444
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:40.079
drowned swimming, But yeah, but
it is dope because like you guys get
445
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.079
injured, I mean skateboarders. I
mean I I was there when Jake Brown
446
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:47.039
fucking took that dig. There's no
what I what I'm saying about this.
447
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.160
This fucking homie, Jake Brown,
he was one of the first Mega Ramp
448
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:56.200
psychopaths and he it's still the worst
crash wipe out, however you want to
449
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.839
say. In the skate he's off
the Mega Ramp quarter pipe and he's fucking
450
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.079
thirty feet in the air, and
I remember seeing it and going, oh
451
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.559
my god, he just died,
like because he comes straight into the flats.
452
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.960
His shoes went like four hundred feet
that way and everything. And then
453
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.279
I was the host of this thing
called Surfer Bowl Awards for like ten thousand
454
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.079
people in Orange County and we gave
him best wipe out of the Year.
455
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.920
And it was a month after it
happened, and the fucking guy just walked
456
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.279
out on stage fine, And it's
just such a gangster man. He I
457
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.119
think he skate up and walked away
from that. That was so gangst Yeah,
458
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.079
I mean that that crash like it
was that you were you were a
459
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.319
baby at that point. I was
young. I was did you see it
460
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.200
nine or ten. I saw it
on Instagram after two years later. You
461
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.559
did it. You started the Baga
Ramp when you were Ali, I was
462
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:42.720
skating when that happened. Yeah,
I was skating when that Yeah, I
463
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:47.279
was skating Bagrant when that fall happened. And you know, I think that.
464
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:48.519
You know, they say this about
like riding motorcycles too. It's like
465
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.680
it's not if it's when Yeah,
you know, and I've clipped my shins
466
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.079
at fourteen feet high, I've gone
almost nearly the flat. I've laying on
467
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.960
my head off the gap like I've
I've suffered almost every injury on that ram.
468
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.480
Besides, you know what, like
the type that Danny's suffered in Jake,
469
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:04.960
because I just wasn't big enough to
go that high, right, you
470
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.680
know, always on the quarter pipe, it seems like right, yeah,
471
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.240
because you have so much fucking speed, Like so on the megaund you have
472
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.519
this giant gap. It's I mean
it could go from fifteen feet right to
473
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.839
like thirty feet. No, it's
fifty to seventy five. That's so stupid.
474
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.920
So you go seventy five feet first
to drop. I don't even know
475
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.640
how hig it is, but for
people out there it's like dropping into a
476
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.839
giant roller coaster. It's probably a
do you can do one hundred and ten
477
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.240
feet? I didn't think it was
that fucking high. Oh my god.
478
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.079
So you're going one hundred and ten
feet straight down over ramp and then you're
479
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.599
flying over seventy five feet and they're
usually doing the craziest trick. He what
480
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.480
you're saying, Your main in the
beginning was backflip. Yeah, it was
481
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.119
backlip over the gap to just five
forty So then right after he does a
482
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.920
backflip seventy five feet, you're hitting
another transition that's super steep again but a
483
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.559
little less but still and a lot
of you assholes check, which is so
484
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.599
dope. You'll have so much speed
in the middle of going up to the
485
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.200
corner by they'll give a little check, which is like a slowdown, like
486
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.160
you know, and you're like,
how can you have that much stability?
487
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.880
You just in the backflip and you're
like, and then you go up to
488
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.039
this quarter pipe that is how big
it's twenty seven twenty seven foot and you're
489
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.279
going I hate to keep saying being
dorky, but probably like thirty miles per
490
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.440
forty miles maybe even more, and
then they can hit this fucking the biggest
491
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.640
quarterpipe in the world and they have
to figure out how to get their balance
492
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.599
again and not fucking screw it up. It's just it seems like that's where
493
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.759
everything goes wrong. And even uh, I think it was Burnquist or someone
494
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.039
in the very beginning goes there's nothing
like coming into that quarter pipe with that
495
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.119
speed, like fuck, you gotta
check it or you just gotta be mellow
496
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.720
and just bail. Yeah, I
mean, it's it's it's when you hear
497
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.680
like you I've ever heard F one
drivers talk about how when they're going like
498
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.519
that fast, everything slows down.
Yeah, that's a lot like what you
499
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.480
experience on Mega. It's like when
you hit the gap. You hit the
500
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:53.079
gap and you're floating, like your
floating like one two three, and then
501
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.519
you're and then you land. Most
time, like when I would when I
502
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.160
would lose sight of my back abouts
just start counting because I know it's like
503
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.440
four or five seconds one two three, And then when I would get down
504
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.960
to the quarter pipe, I remember
thinking like, if the coping set right,
505
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.680
I should be fine. Like that
that's all I'm thinking, Like the
506
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.079
coping just needs to be set right, if it's a little if it's a
507
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.440
little out copying, Oh, I
gotta explain. Coping is the it's a
508
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.400
bar on top of the ramp,
and you guys use that kind of to
509
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.839
click like almost kind of to get
you not to fly too far out into
510
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.240
the flats of the ramp on top, right it almost it kind of keeps
511
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.839
them in the transition of the ramp. So that's what's so gnarly about what
512
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.640
we're talking about right now. If
you could imagine when you see those guys
513
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.319
go off the ramp, they actually
almost all ly off the coping a little
514
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.480
bit. Like you, how do
you feel about coping? It's kind of
515
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.640
like right when you hear your trucks
hit. It is that right when you
516
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.200
go, okay, now I can
start spinning, or it's like kind of
517
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.480
your setting point for your maneuver of
the quarter pipe, right the coping.
518
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.880
Coping is everything kind of on the
quarter pipe, isn't it. Yes?
519
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.000
Yeah, yeah, copy's everything.
Yeah, And and really it's because if
520
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.960
you mess up the tranny, like
we'll feel that going slow, but like
521
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.640
you need to be going at least
thirty or forty miles an I would really
522
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.279
feel how the coping set right.
And if the coping's too far out,
523
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:07.400
you're to flat, the coping's too
far in, you're on the deck,
524
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.759
so right when you hit the cope
and you know I'm bailing, I'm not
525
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.599
gonna this isn't gonna go well,
yes, And that's the other thing about
526
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:18.039
what we're talking about. You guys
are fucking twenty thirty feet above the twenty
527
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.440
five foot ramp. You guys one
hundred feet in the air. That's so
528
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.359
stupid and up there they're like,
not not gonna make it. And you
529
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.559
guys always bail and slide on your
knees down. A lot of people,
530
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.079
especially us, if we're up that
high, it's gonna go so sideways.
531
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.839
So if we lose our border anything, we're just fucking cats. Like ah,
532
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.079
But you guys are so smooth the
way you bail and you're like,
533
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:38.799
I'm good. And how you land
on your guys knee and slide out.
534
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:44.160
I don't even understand that shit because
I always got burns on the coat smaceonite
535
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.200
no matter what. But you guys
just like, yeah's cruising down. I
536
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.000
just the way skaters fall always impressed
me. I mean Bob was the best
537
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.319
at it, like like his tricks
like because I do, like I do
538
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:59.599
big high like backside three like three
three sixty eighty. Faki's in park like
539
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.799
out of a flat wall like about
like five or six feet out. And
540
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:07.400
when I think about him doing back
seven twenty indie to fakey, and he's
541
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.279
fakey right out, like I don't
like, I don't understand, Like one,
542
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.960
you when you pop and you turn
that trick, like there is no
543
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.440
going back, just like three sixty, like if you pop and do that
544
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.799
trick, there's no going back.
You're bailing this way. And he's not
545
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.960
fakey. So he's he's actually at
that move. He's back backwards, right
546
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.759
yes, yeah, yeah. So
he he goes up the quarter pipe,
547
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.839
he's doing a back five. He
gets done with the back five at the
548
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.640
peak of the koping, so this
is coping. He gets on the back
549
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:41.640
five here and he floats this three
sixty all the way down and just barely
550
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.240
missed the coping. I loved his
landings too, They're always just like what
551
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:51.480
like he's because he's always backwards,
he's always on faky. He's literally the
552
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.920
first fakey psychopath to ever do that. Begar Like when he rolls in fakey,
553
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.839
I'm like, is he out of
So what we're talking about is if
554
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.680
I'm I'm a regular foot, if
I go on a wave and I switched
555
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.160
dance, I look like an asshole. You know. I'm like, look
556
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.039
at me. You know I could
serve. I can even do a little
557
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.279
little tricks, but I look like
an asshole. He's going down the scariest
558
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:15.400
ramp ever switch and then doing tricks
switch. I love when he does those
559
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.920
switch like three sixties over with no
grabs. It's just so like it looks
560
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.000
like he's a David Blaine or something. He's like, du da da da
561
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.640
du I mean, did did you
see Jake do the Alli seven? No,
562
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:31.000
Jake didn't all the seven over the
gap? So in three it's a
563
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:36.519
seven is only seven to twenties.
So Alli in two three sixties two and
564
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.079
landed so clean for like so clean, And I remember watching that and I'm
565
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.359
like, dude, like, how
did you do that? He's like,
566
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.440
was it at one time? And
one time thing he threw a skateboard of
567
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.240
the crowd and walked away for good, Oh my god, it well it
568
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:52.720
was it was. It was the
one thing where you watch it and you're
569
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.200
like he won, like he won, Like whoever whoever wins in this contest
570
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.000
does not matter. He just all
the seven to twenty gap from the seventy
571
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.960
five foot like who cares? So
like the contest is one, it's over.
572
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.039
And that's what's so cool now is
like Bitchy Bruce. That's what we
573
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.519
call him, well, because one
of my friends in San Diego's name is
574
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.079
we call him Bitchi Bruce. So
every time I hear Mitchie, I always
575
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.400
called Mitchie Bruce. But he's one
of the best vert skaters with him Magaam
576
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:24.079
main mainly but Vert two and he
made uh ten ninety it was it was
577
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.039
a I think it was the first
twelve twelve. Yeah, he did four
578
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:35.400
that's three five one two three yeah, So it's a It's it's cool because
579
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:39.880
magamt it seems like it's like we
interviewed kolbe Raja and he's the dirt biker
580
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.440
on the next game. Cool ast
fucking shit. And it's kind of like
581
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.799
Magrant where he every tournament you have
to do something no one's ever done to
582
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.640
win, which is fucking crazy.
That's a freestyle modo. It's like yeah,
583
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.480
front flip, fucking throw the bike
away, catch it with your finger.
584
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.599
You win the next games and the
next year you gonna do something even
585
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.519
narla And that's why that sport is
like it evolve so much to where people
586
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.720
are putting their life online too much. It's like it's getting too gnarly.
587
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.400
It seems like that with megaam,
like where it's like you can do a
588
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.400
technical like you said a double seven
twenty fucking kickflip or allie sorry, and
589
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.639
and then that no one's done it
since, But it seems like you guys
590
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.159
have to have a new trick almost
at megaamp now to win. Well,
591
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.840
Megrams are stunt, and I say
stunt, it's a stunt. That's exactly
592
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.519
what how I feel about. Yeah, magramps a stunt And I stopped skating
593
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.239
megram when I was fifteen and I
had my fun on it. But you
594
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.559
know, I think that any Mega
Ramp skater would say that it's it's really
595
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.760
it's really dangerous. So you're padding
up. You're padding up every time knowing
596
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.320
that is imminent that you could die
on this ramp, like one hundred percent,
597
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.079
just off of one little thing.
You're so right, that's exactly what
598
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.000
it seems like. It's like a
stunt, like an Evil Canievil show where
599
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.760
you're like, oh, okay,
here we go. Longevity though scary.
600
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.679
It's like, it's very scary,
dude. The park you can do for
601
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.800
twenty years. Mayram seems like eventually, like you said, it's coming,
602
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.559
it's just a matter of time.
It is coming. Yeah, and you
603
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.840
know that. That's also why it's
out of X games now. They do
604
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.239
they do the they do the Ultra
Mini Mega at Elliott's Place now in Vista,
605
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.920
and the Big Mega ramsd like retired. Oh really yeah? And I
606
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.639
think I honestly think that's a great
move from X Games to start promoting the
607
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.519
progression of Mini Mega because I think
that that is where explain the many is
608
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.039
it? Yeah, fifty feet instead
of one hundred yes, yeah, So
609
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.440
the Mini Mega, the Mini Mega, if you haven't seen it before,
610
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:29.840
it's about a fifty foot roll in
to a thirty five foot gap to a
611
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.079
twenty twenty two to twenty three foot
quarter pipe. Okay, but that that
612
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.159
ramp is so fun for us,
Like it's so it's such a better time.
613
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:43.800
You don't need to be in crazy
chess pads or shitting guards or anything.
614
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.000
You can be in your normal pads. You can go out there have
615
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.719
so much fun, go big,
but you can also be technical and have
616
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.199
a good time. Like It's It's
really why I love park. It's the
617
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.239
same reason why megas Heares love Mini
Mega. It's because I get on park
618
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.800
and I'm like, I love being
able to do flick backlip sides to corners
619
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.800
and just be able to do all
these things that on a vert ram scares
620
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.360
me. Been in a park nine
and a half ft deep end pocket with
621
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.760
a with you know, with a
metal transition, that's like, that's my
622
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.960
bread and butter. Is there one
park they built that was like I wish
623
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.039
this was the park that we had
every time? Is there? Because I
624
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:13.840
don't jew it. The guy we've
been talking about, Jeff do It.
625
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.960
He owned a company where he built
most of the ramps for the X Games.
626
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.199
Right, Yeah, so c A
skate Parks. Skate Parks is Josie
627
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.920
and Brian Harper and they do Yeah, they build most of the parks for
628
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.400
all the park competitions. Do you
guys have any say in that? We
629
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.280
have a little bit of say did
you go in and go like, fuck,
630
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.360
I don't know if I want to
a giant truck that I have to
631
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.960
allay over. You know, these
guys put these parks together nowadays, the
632
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.000
one cool and the last one.
I watched you and Jew it was there
633
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.159
and I saw him in the crowd
and you were like high five of them
634
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.239
after each run. There was the
I think Pedro or someone went, I
635
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.679
think it might have been you were
you all lay up onto a fucking roof
636
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.039
and then you try to all the
way back in somebody, Oh yeah that
637
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.719
was oh x Gan Ventura, what
the yeah? Yeah, so it nuts.
638
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.039
Yeah, So you know, I
Brian and Brian and Josie. Those
639
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.599
parks they designed are so rad,
like I love them every year. But
640
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.039
the thing that they have the balance
is it's also a BMX park, so
641
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.360
they got to make a Narthe and
be a Mexers and for skaters, and
642
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.119
for skaters they make standardized obstacles like
the volcano, like the deep Bend pocket.
643
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.400
But then you got skaters like Pedro
and Tom who are like fuck that,
644
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.639
Like I'm I'm trying to jump on
the roofs and they'll do it,
645
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.039
you know what I mean. It's
like it's just so cool. It's why
646
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:23.880
I love xualames so much is that
you never you never know what to expect,
647
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.360
right, Like when you go to
Olympic Park qualifiers. Now, all
648
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.719
those parks and all the from the
street and bowl, they all have to
649
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:36.880
be standardized obstacles, which is like
a first street it's a nine to twelve
650
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:40.840
started down rail and down ledge and
specific obstacles for runs and for the bowl
651
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.079
it has to be a specific deep
end with a volcano with certain things.
652
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.159
In the next games. It's like
they throw all this together, like how
653
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.320
fun, and we just go there
and it's like it's the greatest. It
654
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.039
looks like so much fun. Have
you ever been to the North Shore Park
655
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:58.079
with the circular little bowl they built? No, I've only been in the
656
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.320
North Swoel one time called Sheep Side. It's out in this where I grew
657
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.440
up. I've seen it though,
because I'm really good. One of my
658
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.760
best friends his HARMANA. Reynolds,
so his whole family's from there, and
659
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.920
yeah he goes back there. Carto
sorry lives next door to my mom.
660
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.760
Was part of our family. Arto's
I love Arto and we wrote for Analog
661
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.519
together for ten years and I love
him, and uh, he takes me
662
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.159
down there and I watched him and
Grayson all the kids. You you seem
663
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:27.880
like like Grayson seems like he should
be in this park contest, but he
664
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.000
never is, is it because he
does do comms? Uh? Greg Grayson
665
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.199
was in a lot of the park
contests when I was younger. He was
666
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.480
in the Park Series and whatnot.
But you know, honestly, like it
667
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.559
just got so gnarly so quick at
this Olympic route. Like you know,
668
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.880
I think a lot of us,
like I was raised by two Olympic level
669
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.400
gymnasts. Oh got it? And
I want you to talk about that after
670
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.800
you keep going on, Yeah,
I saw that on there. Your mom's
671
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.079
let's keep going hear that? Well, yeah, my mom's. My mom's
672
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.360
a two time All American utaw you. My dad was an amazing gymnast and
673
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.719
and he took over his own gym
when my grandpa passed away. And I
674
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.400
just was raised by these parents who
really believed in competitive sports. And so
675
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.519
when I was younger, my whole
life was structured around competing competition. And
676
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.880
it really was because my parents had
no idea how to get into skateboarding.
677
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.760
Because they weren't raised around action sports
at all. They were raised around sports
678
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:20.480
that were required winning to succeed,
And when the Olympic route came around for
679
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:22.679
skateboarders, it felt like a calling. It was like, oh my gosh,
680
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.840
I feel like me and my family's
manifested this for tens of years now,
681
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.079
like this is exactly what we're supposed
to be doing. And I think
682
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.840
for a lot of skateboarders who weren't
involved in in that highest border didn't have
683
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.760
the perspective of competitive skateboarding like I
did, they kind of got overwhelmed.
684
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.719
And that's why you hear a lot
of a lot of flat coming about the
685
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.760
Olympics becoming or the skateboarding become an
Olympic sport, right, because that level
686
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.480
of sport is really kind of frowned
upon in action sports, you know,
687
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.079
where you're competing for your country for
metals and you're putting on a jersey and
688
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.599
you're competing for something bigger than yourself
and no other pro skater in that event.
689
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.000
As parents that have been in that
same situation, not necessarily, I
690
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.599
mean, you know, you look
back at Nig's upbringing and he'd a really
691
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.920
hard upbringing with his dad being very
strike with him on competition and stuff.
692
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.599
But you know, I think that
he's such an amazing competitor because of that,
693
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.920
and I'm pretty sure he would say
that, you know exactly. It's
694
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.679
like a lot a lot of people. You have to be raised in a
695
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.400
lot of adversity and pushed through a
lot when you're young, when you're a
696
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.840
young athlete to be a great competitor
when you're older, and seeing your parents
697
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.079
both achieve greatness in sports can't hurt. My dad was a pro football player
698
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.719
for the Raiders, Wow, and
Atlanta Falcons and Redskins. Actually did it
699
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.800
for a while, and it was
like seeing a sibling do something on that
700
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.840
level. You're like, of course, I'm going to be a prothleet like
701
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.639
they did it, I can do
it, you know. And I love
702
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.840
that your mom was a gymnast.
I hate say this is that when they're
703
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.079
on the floor or she doing what
kind of gymnasts was she? So?
704
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.960
My mom? Basically how at least
this is what from what I know.
705
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.920
And you weren't even born when she
was in that shit, right, I
706
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.880
know. I wasn't. No,
I wasn't born when she was when she
707
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.000
was a collegiate gymnast. I what
I know about what she did was she
708
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.840
did floor beam, vault and bars. You ever see footage of it?
709
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.639
Yeah? Yeah, she was a
savage my mom. You know, it's
710
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.039
funny, A lot of people think
I give my like my competitive ed for
711
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.599
my dad and I I love my
dad to death, but he knows,
712
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.800
like my mom was gnarly. My
mom competed in the in the athletics,
713
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.719
is how they met. Yeah,
yeah, they met. They met through
714
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.119
gymnastics. But my mom competed in
in uh in Utah collegiate level gymnastics for
715
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.920
a year with gauze left in her
ankle from a prior surgery, and she
716
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:39.119
still competed in the for that bad
I guess they were I'm scared to get
717
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.480
surgery. I hear story about that. I'm like, I'm not doing that.
718
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.559
And she still competed, Like,
she still competed a here. Yeah,
719
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.000
became an All American. Yeah she's
an amazing athlete. And yeah,
720
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.840
but like I was saying, it's
it's kind of a situation where the Olympics,
721
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.960
really it's gotta you gotta have the
perception of it's going to bring the
722
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.719
best out of you, you know, because if you get scared of that
723
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.639
moment, like those moments are all
year and a half longer trials, you
724
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.599
know, she are They just tickled
to death that you're in the Olympic stuff
725
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.440
and just competing on this level.
And socept do they come to the comps
726
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.760
or do they keep distance? No, they come to some of the competitions.
727
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.960
But with my mom, you know, I'm really protective of my mom,
728
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.400
you know, so like I always
like I I had a competition in
729
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.559
Switzerland, so she came out for
that one, which is really nice.
730
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.519
But uh, yeah, they're really
stoked. And there's all you know.
731
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.440
What's funny is that there's actually a
curse, like the Eaton family curse of
732
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.400
one hundred and fifty years of Eaton's
trying to make the Olympic Games and never
733
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.920
making it. Oh my god,
Hey, I gotta be honest, man,
734
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.039
this is gonna be so fun to
watch you make it and kill it
735
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.159
this time because we're good luck.
We got cheeto On and he got to
736
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.000
the world title fight. He didn't
win, but fucking such a beast still
737
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.760
never been knocked down. Still help. He's the reason why Cheetoh is the
738
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.000
dopest versus the world. He's a
better human than he is fighter. He's
739
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.199
the coolest, most underground dream life. He has the best family. He
740
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.599
has his head in the right place. And I told him the other day
741
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.840
on a text after he lost,
I said, you're already one. I
742
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.880
go, you already are the coolest, best human being in the world.
743
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.960
I go. Fighting is a game, but in the game of life,
744
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.320
you win. You win every day. And that's how he writes the most
745
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:14.039
articulate, most thoughtful text after his
loss, and that shows you what kind
746
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.360
of man he is. And at
the end of the day, your fighting
747
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.679
career is this long, Your life
is this long, and as long as
748
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.159
you win in life as a human, the game that we play in action
749
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:29.239
sports or fighting and all the stuff
that we think defines us is actually the
750
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.280
things that make us a better character
or a worse character. Because if you
751
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.559
think that defines you, then you
know, life gets really tricky after after
752
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.559
you when you're done skating, you're
gonna find yourself, like, what's my
753
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:43.000
purpose? But Chetah already has that
purpose. He when he's done fighting,
754
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.559
he's gonna be smiling every day.
He loves surfing. Man, He talks
755
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.679
about surfing every day. To me, it's fucking great. He's you know,
756
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.800
yeah, well, I mean life
builds character and sports reveals it.
757
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.360
Right. I love that. I
think that's a big I think that's a
758
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.400
big thing, especially nowadays, like
you see a lot of athletes doing a
759
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.760
lot of really toxic air getting things
to get attention. Negatively, they need
760
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.280
to go to jiu jitsu earlier.
If kids out there listening, please just
761
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.719
go to the gym one day and
then your e bike will turn into a
762
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.760
real bike. Yeah. Well,
you know, And I was watching that
763
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.719
Cheetoh Sugar Shan fight, and uh, you know, it's funny because I
764
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.519
know Sugar and I know Cheetoh.
I've never met Cheetoh, but I know
765
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.360
if him as a fighter, I
know Sugar and I I uh, you
766
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.519
know, I was watching that in
his speech, man, you you you
767
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:29.440
hear the humility, you know.
But it's it's tough because the truth is
768
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.960
that sports really don't matter. It's
what you like to do, you know.
769
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.400
But the truth is that how much
it you can create joy in your
770
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.000
own life, like your how positive
your perception is of your life is really
771
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.880
what is really what catapults you into
another level of consciousness, Like if you
772
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.039
can get to the point where sports
is what you like to do and you're
773
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.039
just obsessed with the passion of getting
better a progression of sport, and you
774
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.400
let your life go along with just
having a positive perception of who you're around
775
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.480
and all that. Like, I
think it's just so important, you know.
776
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.599
That's why. It's a big reason
why I'm not a social media and
777
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.559
the big reason why a big reason
why I try to manage my distractions.
778
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.960
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't really do anything because I'm
779
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.840
just like, you know, I'm
trying to manage the most positive perception I
780
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.199
have in my own life. Dude, Like, I hate you, Like
781
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.119
I actually don't like you anymore.
You're twenty three. I'm like hopefully going
782
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.840
to get through to you and tell
you how to live your life like an
783
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.920
old man should. And you're teaching
me things and I absolutely adore it.
784
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:28.599
I think it's amazing. Your mindset's
dope. And I'm going to give a
785
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.519
huge shout out to your parents.
I don't know what the hell they did
786
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.599
you guys. They slap you in
the hand every time you said something stupid.
787
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.320
I mean, you got your shit
together and it's fucking dope because right
788
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.239
now these kids need someone to follow. And I love that you're not in
789
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.840
social media. I gotta be honest, I'm so old that I'm not into
790
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.519
it because I'm too old, But
the fact that you're not just driven by
791
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.559
it is so good and thank god
there's more. We need more of you
792
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.480
guys. Man, Well, you
know I'm not driven by it because I
793
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.719
was driven by it, right,
Like all of us fall into the trap,
794
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.039
right They're like, there's a reason
why there's so much unconsciousness now and
795
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.039
there's so many people worrying about where
they belong in the world's because they're looking
796
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.880
at everybody else's life. Like,
how are you supposed to live your own
797
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.599
life and find your own consciousness,
your own individuality if you're constantly surrounding yourself
798
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.480
with other people's lives and perspectives,
and then when you have something rad in
799
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:16.599
your life, you have to show
people. Yeah, It's like, why
800
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:19.920
do you have to show them that
you didn't just live it? Yeah?
801
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.480
Yeah, truthfully, Like, are
you really enjoying that coffee shop? Are
802
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.000
you just start posting about it?
You know what? I mean, I
803
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.599
know it's like that's what's so frustrating, Like yeah, like and it really,
804
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.480
it really happened after the Olympic Games, Like after I got my medal,
805
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:36.679
I experienced the craziest high of my
life. Like and the the reason
806
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.039
why is it wasn't about the medal. Four months before that, I broke
807
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.199
my ankle. I had I tore
every ligament in their ninety percent. And
808
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.360
then the last competition before the Games, I gave myself two fractures of semifinals
809
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.400
and my ankle was wrapped up.
I was feeling it swell in my ankle,
810
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.199
like it was just really bad,
Like my ankle was really bad.
811
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.760
I was in tons of physical pain. And when I made the team,
812
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.039
I made the team on my last
trick, on my last try I need
813
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.320
a nine to three in row to
make it. I made the team in
814
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.440
the third spot for Street. I
broke the et curse. Yeah yeah,
815
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.800
with a broken fucking hoof. Yeah, with a with a bad ankle.
816
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.440
And then after I got out of
the Games, I got the medal,
817
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.880
and I at the time I was
nineteen, I had like acne and skin
818
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:21.679
problems. My acne cleared in a
week a week my acne cleared out of
819
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.320
nowhere, like just finished dream that
you had to get to there? Yeah,
820
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.719
like yeah, and I finished.
I got the metal and all that.
821
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.079
But then I got like addicted to
the attention. I got addicted to
822
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.280
it. I fell into the trap. And I'm not I'm not saying I
823
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.039
became an Aragont asshole or I became
rude to the people that helped me get
824
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.039
there, but I just started to
appreciate the wrong things, like I looked
825
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.360
at other things for gratification, not
what was going on inside. And six
826
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:50.880
months after the Olympic Games, I
decided at the time I tore my hamstring,
827
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:52.320
my labor room was torn. I
was just not enjoying skating. I'm
828
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.360
like, you know what, I'm
done. I'm getting rid of social media.
829
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.800
I'm going to the beach every day, I'm meditating, like I'm just
830
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.119
done. And that too, we
change my whole perspective of what I want
831
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:05.039
to do going forward, and from
that point on, it's all that's been
832
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.480
about is just being as healthy as
possible and just trying to be as positive
833
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.559
and help people around me as much
as I can, you know, not
834
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.280
not trying to be so engulfed in
what I'm feeling. Like most of the
835
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.719
time when you're complaining, when it's
me me, me, me me,
836
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.599
there's more problems around you start looking
out, you can how more effective is
837
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.960
everything in life? Yeah, you
can actually choose your happiness every single minute
838
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.920
of the day. So true.
It's it's insane that when you figure that
839
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.119
that out, every time you have
a bad day it's all your fault.
840
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.440
It's every single day you can actually
find yourself going, Okay, my day
841
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.440
was horrible because of my mindset,
Like how lucky to I mean, look
842
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.719
at how lucky we are and the
way the words come out of your mouth.
843
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.199
Right now, you figured it out. It's not about being a pro
844
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:50.159
skater. It's about being happy,
but being happy, being proud of your
845
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.840
every day that you live on this
planet, and at the end of each
846
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.159
day you lay your head to the
pillow going fuck, I can't wait for
847
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.920
tomorrow. It's the days you wake
up and you're living your life the wrong
848
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.639
way and you know, I don't
want to get out of bed today,
849
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.920
Like it's really really, it's a
curse and it's a it's a blessing for
850
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.559
people like you and I that got
this amazing life handed to us. I
851
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.559
was a prick for like ten years
because I like everyone wanted to be my
852
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.440
friend and sponsors paying me and it's
on magazine covers and doing my thing,
853
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.719
and it was not the happiest time
of my life. The happiest time right
854
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.159
now is if I go through a
day and somebody was touched by my humanity
855
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:29.599
or my consider You know, I'm
really really compassionate towards people because I didn't
856
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.280
have a father growing up and all
that stuff, so I always try to
857
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:35.079
please people. That was my thing. I please people, make them happy,
858
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.760
I make them laugh. I'm a
joker. But then I realized that
859
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.440
all I need to do is have
a good perspective and be blessed every single
860
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.480
day about my thought process, which
you have at twenty three. It took
861
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.760
me twenty more years to figure it
out within you, and you're going to
862
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.199
go through it. That's the crazy
thing. Right now, you have all
863
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.159
this gift of knowledge and perspective and
all that stuff, it's going to get
864
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.320
harder. The hardest time, and
I tell this to everyone that's your guys,
865
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.480
age twenty seven to thirty two,
the hardest time in your life because
866
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.000
you realize you you think you know
everything and then you realize you know nothing,
867
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.159
and then you go really dark.
And then that's when the skating career
868
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.880
is gonna come winding down. And
you're like, oh shit, but you
869
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:14.559
already have that perspective, but I
didn't. And it's really rough for all
870
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.639
the guys like Calling and all of
us older guys that when you're done being
871
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.679
a pro, your life goes sideways
because you're like, oh shit, what
872
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.519
do I do now? Yeah,
but you already figuring it out, man,
873
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.960
just staying healthy in your mind.
Yeah, Well, I think I
874
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:29.039
think a big part two of it
is, especially with what you're talking about
875
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.079
about, like like I feel like
I go up and down with with skateboarding
876
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.840
all the time. Like I've fallen
out of love of skateboarding, and that's
877
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.400
gonna happen. Like you hate the
things that you love, and the love
878
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.320
you and you love the things you
hate. Like that's just life. It's
879
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.239
just the way the world works.
You're supposed to find love and everything in
880
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.360
something like and especially when you find
something that you love, you're so vulnerable
881
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.679
to hate it. And that that's
a big part of just of sports and
882
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.639
with skateboarding too. Like man,
like it causes so much physical pain,
883
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.880
like and it's so hard to constantly
Yeah, Like, dude, I've had
884
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.920
a growing herdia now for like a
year and a half almost, and I
885
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.719
can't get surgery because I'm in the
middle of an Olympic process. Like it's
886
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:12.039
like there's so much stuff that's going
on that you're just like you're like,
887
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.960
oh my god, why, Like
I'm like sick, Like why do I
888
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.880
love it? But your ego loves
to attach it to self to pain,
889
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.000
Like it loves to make it a
reason why you are suffering. It's because
890
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.360
you have physical pain. Oh you're
upset, you know what I mean.
891
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.639
I think that's the biggest that's the
big been, the biggest hurdle and the
892
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:34.440
hardest thing to consistently do for me
is like leave that attachment to pain out
893
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.280
of it. Like even though your
ankle's blown out, or your hips hurt,
894
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.760
or your ribs hurt or your neck
pain, it's like, that's not
895
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.239
a reason for you to not enjoy
this day, you know what I mean.
896
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.880
You got to figure it out.
You know, you've got a future
897
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.639
in psychology. Kid. This is
crazy, I mean so fun, it's
898
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.000
so fun. Because I respect you
already before I met you, but you're
899
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.360
a way better human than I could
ever dreamt of it. Twenty three,
900
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.400
I'm blown away. She's got to
have some questions that I want to hear
901
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.800
because she comes always from a totally
different perspective. But what the fuck is
902
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:06.599
this kid all about? This?
Yeah? I know, I'm sorry.
903
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:12.320
You're twenty three, You're not like
forty five. Yeah. Fun, it's
904
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.519
fun because I can't wait to see
what you do. Kid, Like,
905
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.519
I already know you're gonna do a
great things on skateboard, but there's something
906
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.760
bigger out there. After your skate
career. You're gonna be talking to kids
907
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.239
and helping them out, and that's
more important than doing a fucking giant mega
908
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:29.400
ramp. Yeah. Yeah, I
also to say, you're insanely well spoken.
909
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.119
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Have you had like media training?
910
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.599
Uh, you know, it's funny. I have had media training, but
911
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.280
like, you know, it's funny. I got media trained by the girl
912
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:43.400
who helps Sean White say like I'm
talking about Mountain Dews. Baby. I
913
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:45.800
got a media trade by girl I've
ember thinking of, Like, okay,
914
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.800
as long as I can get close
to that, like I'm good. Yeah,
915
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.280
But you know, I haven't really
been media trained, Like I don't
916
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.320
you know, I don't really think
about like my objective here was not to
917
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.599
like sit here and talk about like
the consciousness that I've developed, Like that's
918
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.360
not necessarily my goal. Like I
think my thing is is I just manage
919
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.599
my distractions. You know, I
read, I read deeply from great books,
920
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.960
and I talk to people who I
think who are incredibly enlightened and educated,
921
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:14.360
not necessarily academically but spiritually. You
know, I constantly try to surround
922
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:15.920
myself with people who are better than
me, and I w one hundred percent
923
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.440
okay leaving my ego out of the
conversation, Like I don't I one hundred
924
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:25.559
percent okay with with being dumb around
great people and just learning, you know.
925
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:30.519
I think I think that's a hard
thing nowadays, is people are trying
926
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.599
to be somebody that they're not.
I think a lot of the times and
927
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:37.880
most of the time, that search
will make you go to crazy depths to
928
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.239
try and find individuality, you know, just trying to be educated and things
929
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.599
that make you happy, finding what
you love doing. I think is like
930
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.159
that to me is my purpose.
You know, I just want to be
931
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:50.079
doing what I love doing with the
people that I love, with the people
932
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.800
that I love. You know,
and who who I think is inspiring You're
933
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.639
your parents. Man, I gotta
say it again. They did a good
934
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.599
job. And it's it's not to
keep slurping you, but yeah, I
935
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:06.079
mean, honestly, I'm I we
gotta go golf. This is a joke,
936
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:07.679
Like, if you're gonna be this
cool a human and that swing,
937
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:12.599
I gotta kick your ass. Dude, we get the girl off on the
938
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.880
golf course. It's so dope.
What's up have you? Have you tried
939
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:16.880
golfing or no? I used to
golf a lot when I was here.
940
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:22.639
Talk about my dad's really really into
golf. She has a great family too.
941
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.159
Ever, first time she stayed out
to stop with your golf story,
942
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.639
but first time I ever she came
to Hawaii to stay with me, and
943
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.000
when we started in the potty,
she facetimeing with her parents and her dog
944
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.480
and their whole family like sitting there
and I'm like hello and I'm on the
945
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:37.760
other side and they're like, oh, we just want to meet you before
946
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.119
our daughter comes over there. And
it stays on the North Shore with you
947
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.480
and stuff, and I'm like,
hey, I'm uncle Benji, Like it's
948
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.199
all good. I got her.
She's good. But they're so sweet.
949
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.199
They had they all set up in
this camera and their dog. They're rubbing
950
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.639
the dog like okay, so tell
us a little bit about you and stuff.
951
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.719
It was so cute, but it's
exactly probably how amazing your parents were.
952
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.679
They they were just there to advise, but they were there to protect,
953
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.320
but they were there to understand,
and that's probably why he was a
954
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.239
good golfer. He's fucking just like
us, like good people. Yeah,
955
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.360
my dad was also always an athlete. He played D one football all through
956
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:13.599
undergrad school. Cool, and then
my mom did gymnastics, horseback riding,
957
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.920
and competitive cheerleader. That's awesome.
Okay, so that's also very athletic family.
958
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.719
Yeah, my brother and I are
definitely not anything close to competitive athletes,
959
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:28.480
but yeah, but yeah, so
I played golf, like my dad
960
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.599
signed me and my brother both up
for golf camp and we had to do
961
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:36.760
it from like age six to like
ten or eleven. Yeah, it's one
962
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:38.239
of those things. It was like
we liked it as soon as you're out
963
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.719
there until we had to carry our
clubs. Then we were not stoked.
964
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.679
I think I haven't Actually, I
haven't golfed in like a long time.
965
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.400
I think now being able to drive
golf carts and not have to carry my
966
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:52.440
bag for eighteen holes, I'd probably
like it a lot more. Well,
967
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:53.320
it's a lot more. It's a
lot more peacefull. Getting kicked in the
968
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.079
face on a Saturday morning that yeah, yeah, I used to get kicked
969
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.079
the face Saturday morning. Like you
know what, I think I'd rather just
970
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:00.559
go golf dad, I think we
should do that for the past time.
971
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:04.679
Yeah, my friends would drowned and
I'd be like, I want to stay
972
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.800
over here on this grass, like
fuck this place. But do you have
973
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.280
any questions? I'm kind of interested. She's always comes up with these rad
974
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.000
questions. Yeah, definitely. I
mean, I know your parents like encouraged
975
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.079
you guys to do competitive sports like
from a very early age. But was
976
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.519
there a specific moment when, like
with skateboarding, that you're like, okay,
977
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:27.280
yeah, this is my calling,
like I am going to be a
978
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.559
professional. Yeah. Did you do
other sports when you were a kid.
979
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.519
Did they put you into gymnastics that
ever? Yes, Yeah, me and
980
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.239
my brother did tons of other things. We raced motocross. When we were
981
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.039
really young, we did gymnastics,
I played soccer. I did all sorts
982
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.119
of different things. And you know
when I when you say, like your
983
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.400
parents encourage you to do competitive sports, it's funny because I don't like my
984
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:47.920
parents. It never felt like they're
like, you need to do this.
985
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.440
They're just like, oh, you're
interested in this, Okay, let's wrap
986
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.960
your whole world around it, right, Like my parents were just so supportive,
987
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:58.800
Like I had the best parents.
Like when me and my brother fell
988
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.360
in love of skating at the time, I was four and my older brother
989
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:06.320
was six, and we could not
get off our boards. So my dad
990
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.000
built us a mini wramp in our
garage at the house, and we just
991
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.679
could not do it. In the
summertime, We're sweating one hundred and fourteen
992
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:15.239
degrees. We're in the garage like
wife beater and all just like Arizona White
993
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:20.199
trash, just skating. And then
and what ended up happening was my dad
994
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.960
at the time was coaching gymnastics for
twelve hours a day as a gymnastics tym
995
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:27.159
that we owned in Mesa, and
he's like, Okay, how can I
996
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.840
create an environment for these kids to
fall in love with skating, but do
997
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.599
it in a safe environment for twelve
hours a day without the heat. So
998
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.920
my dad started building skate building skate
ramps in the back of the gym,
999
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.159
just wow, on his own because
you guys, by the way, Arizona
1000
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.760
born and raised, corn and raised
and no joke heat And so he's building
1001
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.599
this so you guys could skate all
summer in ac Yes, yeah, and
1002
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:52.440
he and he just built and he
just built it and like it was,
1003
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.599
it's nothing, I know how to
build a ramp. No, how did
1004
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:58.159
he learnline or something? No,
he didn't. And what he ended up
1005
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.400
doing was he went to local skate
parks with us on like Saturdays and Sundays,
1006
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:05.039
and he would go and make conversation
with the other skaters to try and
1007
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.880
get some enlightenment on how to do
it. Like and you talk about like
1008
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.400
the vulnerability that it takes for a
father to do that, Like my dad
1009
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.880
is just my dad is just a
whole different level of human And he did
1010
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.800
that. And now we franchise that
idea ktr We own seven facilities across Arizona
1011
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.920
and Utah that are like skate parks. What was a ri I P I
1012
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.440
saw that on you about that it's
an R I P. And then what
1013
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.880
does it what's the initials of your
skate parks the ones you're talking about,
1014
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.400
the skate parks that you guys own. Is that kids that red? Yeah,
1015
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.320
it's k T Kids KTR. Yeah. I was wondering what that stupid
1016
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.760
for kids? That? Yeah?
Kids that real? Yeah cool? Yeah.
1017
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:45.239
And you guys do charity things for
kids and teach them. How it
1018
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:50.079
said you do urban skate lessons for
kids and stuff. Yes, we we
1019
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.760
have a couple of different things.
So KTR MESA is the is like ground
1020
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:58.159
zero for KTR, and what we
do there is basically child development, So
1021
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.320
we have a whole different We have
coaches and curriculums and all things for kids
1022
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.480
all the way from four years old
to fifteen. And basically what it's like
1023
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.519
is you basically your whole life,
you just get better and go up in
1024
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.639
groups and then by the time you're
at the lead level group, you work
1025
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:14.920
with my older brother who's the coach
and does all the curriculum stuff for KTR,
1026
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.199
and he will basically write your curriculum
to compete and so he does that
1027
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:24.480
and the KTR franchises we have one
in Chandler and Glendale, Scottsdale, Awatuki.
1028
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.440
Those those ktrs are basically they're like
family action sports playgrounds. There's a
1029
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.800
skate park, but they're state of
the art trampolines and air bags and all
1030
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.559
sorts of stuff, so that that's
basically a place for kids like put down
1031
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.599
the phone and go play all day
and just have fun. And that's like
1032
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:44.400
your own little woodword. Like in
Arizona, you guys kind of created your
1033
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.199
own woodword. Is it called woodward? Yes? Yeah, yeah, that's
1034
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.800
a lot like what it says.
Kind of you guys give these kids opportunities.
1035
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.679
I hate your family, it's just
insane. Yeah, but really,
1036
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.440
you guys have such great love for
humans. It's nope, so cool.
1037
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.960
And you I saw a you planting
trees somewhere in South America, right,
1038
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:07.679
Mexico, Mexico. I did that
with me and went to Costa Rica.
1039
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:09.199
We went to Brazil to plant trees. You know, you buy a shoe
1040
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.199
for News when I rode for him, you plant a tree. So we
1041
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.960
need Checkler at the fucking complete forest
in the middle of or planting these trees
1042
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:20.719
and doing some bullshit, and yeah, it was so fun. But it's
1043
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.280
looked like you're doing that as well. What was that you guys planting trees
1044
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:27.239
and taking care of people down there. Yeah, so there's there's a new
1045
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:36.199
hotel development or basically like environment and
Environmental Act active activation or activity basically UH
1046
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:40.159
in about two hours south of Portava, in this place called Chala, and
1047
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:45.679
Chala is uh. It's a town
in Mexico that a hotel, Elbal named
1048
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:51.119
Ricardo. He bought the size of
Orange County in land in Mexico around Chaala
1049
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:55.000
to basically build up that that community
and yeah, for the locals. Yeah,
1050
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:58.840
so what we do there is we
plant trees and we also we put
1051
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.559
a foundation. This is through the
Heart Supply, So the board brand that
1052
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:06.239
I ride for with Johnny Schill who
started Element, we started ah, we
1053
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.519
started a board brand called the Heart
Supply and basically our whole goal is to
1054
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:15.519
give skateboards to kids and to promote
the basically promote the progression for for kids
1055
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.199
and underprivileged areas for skateboarding. So
we put up a skate park in Shaala.
1056
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:21.639
We also, you know, we
put our boards out of Target now
1057
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.360
and yeah, Element, you said
you write for No, this is the
1058
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.920
heart supply. The heart applies a
specific Yeah, a specific, a different
1059
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.119
board brand. Who do you write
for? Who are your sponsors? Red
1060
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.639
Bull obviously so bitch. When red
Bull gets a hold of one of these
1061
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:37.320
guys, man, it's all red
Bull all day. Red Bull was my
1062
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:39.360
first. They were the first people
I ever had a conversation for seeing a
1063
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:44.760
sponsor support like red Bull. One
of my best friends. He would be
1064
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.440
like, I'm going to Switzerland to
go on this freaking helly trip with red
1065
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.519
Bull and there I'm going on this
and Mark mcboris all this stuff and it
1066
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.800
looks like they're you're the same,
and they're just the greatest sponsor, right,
1067
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:58.039
they take care of you. One. I got to do that this
1068
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:01.440
summer too. I got to go
with Mark mcports to Austin Mountain, Austin
1069
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:05.719
Martin, UH, and got to
go in the pit do the whole thing
1070
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:07.920
at Belgium. But I saw where
was that F one racer you're at?
1071
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:09.960
Is that the f Yeah? So
I've been to two. I've been to
1072
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:15.360
one in Miami and one in Austin. Yeah, and I love I loved
1073
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.159
him so much. What's your I
saw you with the Ferrari though? Is
1074
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.760
that okay to say, because where
where was the Red Bull guys with a
1075
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.360
Ferrari? I ain't run though,
Ferrari, I saw you doing the Were
1076
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:30.079
you doing the simulator? Uh?
I was doing a simulator. I'm trying
1077
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.480
to remember where that was, because
well, I actually I just signed with
1078
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:37.320
i w C as well. An
i w C is partner with Lewis Hamilton.
1079
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.400
I w C is a it's a
Swiss watch brand, of course.
1080
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.000
Yeah, yeah, it's a They've
been a great partner for about a year
1081
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.519
a year and a half now and
yeah, and and they're partnered with Lewis
1082
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:50.880
Hamilton and Mercedes for F one as
well. So I kind of do both.
1083
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:52.599
I go with Red Bull and do
some stuff with Max and then do
1084
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.719
something Lewis. And yeah, actually
I played a basketball game with Lewis Hamilton's
1085
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:59.679
super Dow he's read. I took
him surfing pipeline he did. Yeah,
1086
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.079
us. He broke my fucking board. Yeah, he broke your board.
1087
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.360
He broke my seven Oh yeah,
he charges he went on and got six
1088
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.199
ft wave broke my board. Yeah. Who's just cool. He always comes
1089
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:10.719
in north Shore. He's really good
friends with Slater, stays at his house.
1090
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.079
And ship. That's awesome. And
yeah, he Formula one so fun
1091
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.119
to watch and be a part of. It's like an event rather than you
1092
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:22.480
don't even see the race. You're
just seeing them. It's over and eating,
1093
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:28.320
like filat and on the pitch.
Just another level. But other sponsors.
1094
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:31.760
Who's your shoe sponsor? Karima Karaema. Yeah. I signed with them
1095
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.000
a few years back and they've been
a they've been a super a super doll
1096
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.400
sponsored to have actually about to have
a pro shoe for the first time ever,
1097
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:42.280
Red White and Blues. See your
name on there? Yeah? Is
1098
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.199
that it? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I'm I'm so pumped.
1099
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.920
That's so fun skating. It's it's
for surfers. We have pads, you
1100
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.360
know that you put on your board. Kelly and a few people had a
1101
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.679
shoe, but it doesn't make any
sense for surfers because shoes. But that's
1102
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:57.320
cool. That's like the pinnacle and
you got to design that thing. Yeah,
1103
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.159
yeah, I got to design it. Just Red White and Blue did
1104
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.039
a good skate show. It's a
great skate shoe and I honestly, you
1105
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.239
know, for me, I love
looking down at white shoes. Yeah,
1106
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.559
like I think that's always been a
thing for me, like white leather shoes
1107
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:10.480
skating, it's always in my favorite
Yes, I've been with them for a
1108
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:20.079
few years now. Chipotle, Delta, Samsung Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1109
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:27.800
Samsung, Delta, Polo oh out
of here, you're right, for their
1110
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:33.039
clothing. Yeah, you know,
mostly sponsors are Olympic Olympic cycle sponsors because
1111
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:39.639
they're like, you know that's when
yeah, yeah, Polo, yeah,
1112
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.679
Polos Fire Yeah. I actually I
got decked out in Polo stuff for U
1113
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.440
for the pro am, which was
super sick. Yeah. They saw that
1114
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.239
was competing, they sent me stuff
out and that's awesome. I mean,
1115
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.519
it's another thing why, like the
Olympic Games is just so cool for skateboarding,
1116
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:54.320
Like it just legitimizes what we do. You know, I think that's
1117
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.199
so special. You know that these
brands get to get involved with with with
1118
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.400
skateboarders on this level and it's very
special. I mean, dude, you're
1119
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.119
living in a time where you guys
are a real sport and you know,
1120
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.159
skateboarding. When I was a kid, the last thing you would ever think
1121
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.440
was going to be in the Olympics, and a lot of pro skaters that
1122
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:12.159
I grew up with would probably frown
on it, like we're saying yeah,
1123
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:14.599
but it shouldn't be that way.
It should be like, finally, do
1124
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:16.800
we get the respect that we deserve, you know, like you Mic Morris
1125
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.079
and all these guys that are in
this new generation. You guys get to
1126
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:24.639
hang out with Snoop Dogg. You
guys get to go around and represent your
1127
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.480
country and do all these things.
It shouldn't be frowned on. It should
1128
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.119
be like, finally we're progressing to
real status of athlete. You know,
1129
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.440
when I was a kid, I
rolled my board back through airport and they
1130
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:36.519
go, is that a dead body? Oh surfer? Oh you're homeless,
1131
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.440
Like it was literally like a joke. I'd be like, I'm a pro
1132
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.880
surfer and they're like, oh,
that's cute, you know. But now
1133
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:45.840
you're like, holy shit, you
you're a pro skateboarder. You know,
1134
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:47.599
they think of you as a real
athlete, which you are. So it's
1135
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.840
good times to be you. Yeah. I mean, I'm so blessed.
1136
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:54.280
And I think a lot of people
are just afraid of things they don't understand,
1137
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:57.039
you know, what the Olympic Games
coming in. They think that's going
1138
01:05:57.119 --> 01:06:00.800
to take some of the creativity or
the fun or the perspective off of skateboarding.
1139
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.320
But it really only enlightens it and
shows that it just shows how special
1140
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:06.840
and unique it is on a whole
different level. You know. I've always
1141
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.840
said this is the beginning. I
think the Olympic Game is one of the
1142
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:13.079
greatest things for skateboarding because for the
people who want to for the skaters who
1143
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.320
want to film parts and you want
to do the core skateboarding route, You're
1144
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.920
going to get more viewership. You're
going to get more people interested in that
1145
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.280
route as well. And for the
for the skateboarders who want to compete on
1146
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:25.760
a real level and actually compete for
their country, put the jersey on and
1147
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.440
win medals for something bigger than themselves. Like we have a route now,
1148
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.559
and it's so special and it's lucrative, and it's it's healthy, which is
1149
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:35.880
so dope. Like it's just it's
such a cool route to be taking right
1150
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.360
now, and to be one of
to be on i mean hopefully to be
1151
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.199
on both of the first two teams. Like that's just for me, Like
1152
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.440
that's the whole goal. I'm just
trying to make both teams be able to
1153
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:54.440
go again. Because the Olympic Games
is unlike anything Tokyo in Paris. Yeah,
1154
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:59.400
yeah, and that man like walking
in the Olympic village like that feeling,
1155
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:01.280
Yeah you have the walk right,
Well, I mean I stayed there
1156
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:05.039
for like seven days in an apartment
with me and it was me, Nis
1157
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:08.679
and Jake And would you guys do
the walk in the ceremony? Yeah,
1158
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.679
we did the opening ceremonies. That's
just insane, chicken skin style. It's
1159
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:16.519
just unbelievably like it's the craziest,
Like it's the craziest feeling, like when
1160
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:20.840
you're there and and like that nervousness, the anxiousness, the excitement, like
1161
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:25.840
it's the it's the biggest day of
your life in sports, Like it's the
1162
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.199
biggest day that that time when you
when you go, when you walk out
1163
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.480
and you got that jersey on and
it's time to compete for your country.
1164
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:35.800
It is a whole different meaning.
There's not one contest that compares to that.
1165
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.639
Yeah it. Slater even said it, He's like, the last goal
1166
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.039
I have is to get an Olympic
team. And you know, he almost
1167
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.360
made it. He made it by
like one heat he missed it. And
1168
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:50.000
for someone that is as accomplished as
any athletes ever walked this planet wanted to
1169
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:54.000
do that. It shows you how
important it is to even the goat,
1170
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.280
you know, the goat once he
still feels that. That's the pinnacle of
1171
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:00.599
our sport, is to be an
Olympic athlete. So yeah, pretty freaking
1172
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.920
cool. I can't imagine what your
parents are thinking when you're making that walk
1173
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:08.559
and coming from America and they play
when you got your bronze, they do
1174
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:13.159
your anthem right, yeah, and
where you just like moms, Well,
1175
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.840
my parents weren't able to go.
Oh they weren't. It was COVID.
1176
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:17.920
Yeah, they weren't. They weren't
able to travel. Yeah, because that
1177
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:20.760
was unfortunate. I I just did
a whole thing with NBC about that.
1178
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.800
You know, a lot of athletes
came forward and talked about it, and
1179
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.039
it was really hard. Yeah,
because all I want to do is come
1180
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.840
home, and all I want to
do is just see them. I just
1181
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.920
want to see them and be able
to like share that moment because like for
1182
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.640
me, like that metal, that
metal meant so much more, Like the
1183
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:41.479
curse is done totally. Like when
you got back to Arizona, did they
1184
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:45.079
do any like you or anything?
Yeah, we definitely had a party and
1185
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:46.760
we kicked it. Yeah, it
was it was super rad. It was
1186
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:50.000
just you know, it was the
first contest ever where it was it felt
1187
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.239
like a it felt like a state
win. It felt like Arizona, Like
1188
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.000
Arizona's not known for a lot of
things where the Grand Canyon state, you
1189
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.960
know. But now it's like we're
kind of like we're yeah, we're on
1190
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:02.720
the Mafro skating, you know,
like did Jet get the gun? Jet
1191
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.079
did not get to go? No, my whole goal is to get my
1192
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:09.039
whole family out. Yeah, Paris, I love hearing that he's a coach
1193
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.680
and ship too with your mindset,
he's probably exactly like you. He's probably
1194
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.479
teaching a lot of kids some great
values and stuff. Oh my gosh,
1195
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.359
she's an amazing coach. And I
think I think for me, I appreciate
1196
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:21.960
him doing that job because I know
a little bit about how important that job
1197
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:25.800
is to the kids, like how
fulfilling it is for yourself as well,
1198
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.720
you know, like that's such a
great job. Yeah, like you really
1199
01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:30.880
are a part of molding these kids
into the humans that they're going to be.
1200
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.800
And he's only twenty five, right, Yeah, he's only twenty five
1201
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:38.119
and at the same time, like
I still remember all of my coaches.
1202
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.399
I remember their names, I remember
what they laughed at, I remember what
1203
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:43.279
they made me laugh at. I
remember their board setup. Like Dowett for
1204
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:45.560
a great example, I remember everything
about Jewett and I still this day.
1205
01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:49.760
We get coffee and he's hopefully he's
a coach for TIMS going to Paris,
1206
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.600
and you know, we just keep
that relationship and it's such a special role,
1207
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:57.680
you know, such a special role. I'm just realizing that advice I
1208
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.319
can take advice because I you know, when you're trying to do hard shit,
1209
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.720
if you can be like you humble
enough to take the advice, you're
1210
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.600
so much further along than everyone in
your age. If you can actually say
1211
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.039
the words that you just said,
you're so much further along than most kids
1212
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:13.680
that are trying to do what you're
doing. Because when you're in it,
1213
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.359
you're ego and you have to be
so confident and you think, I don't
1214
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:19.079
need help from me. That shit, I got this on lock. But
1215
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:23.399
you're really insecurity underneath that all.
It's just like, ah, I wish
1216
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:26.720
I was listening to that. I
did make that mistake and that and you've
1217
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.680
been that mindset for so long,
and now your brother's doing it for other
1218
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.840
kids. It's pretty important, man. I mean when you talk about not
1219
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:36.159
knowing, like, I think that's
a big that's a big consciousness step when
1220
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:40.520
you realize that, Like, when
you realize you don't know and now it's
1221
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:44.079
time to rebuild Like that, that's
when your mind can take two other routes.
1222
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:45.880
When you don't know. You can
stay there and identify with all your
1223
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.920
issues about you not knowing, or
you can put that ego aside and start
1224
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.720
to build on the education that you're
going to gain from that. Like,
1225
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:57.119
I think that's a big part of
a that's a big part of just the
1226
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:00.680
whole journey of choosing happiness because it
is, dude, it is so hard.
1227
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:03.880
It is so hard, and it
will always be hard, right,
1228
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.239
Like, there are so many things
in this life materially that will give you
1229
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.520
temporary fulfillment. There are so many
things, and most of our lives are
1230
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.439
surrounded by them, you know,
And now we're we're in a place where
1231
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:21.960
it's almost hard to even see your
life happy without having significant material items,
1232
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:28.479
which is nuts, Like that's crazy. You can take everything away and if
1233
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:33.279
that's your happiness then good luck whatever
real right, there should be anything except
1234
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.920
that's like heartfelt. Like this watch
is from Jake Burton. It's it's my
1235
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.319
life, you know, like it's
a watch, but it's my life because
1236
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.920
it's meaningful. But if you took
everything on my own, the electric bike,
1237
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.880
not the electric pick, don't steal
that, but every don't take them.
1238
01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:53.079
Don't take the one wedge I got
from Adam Scott please, and everything
1239
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:55.920
else take I don't give a ship. No. But there's like those things
1240
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.880
that I have a stick over there
that me and Timmy Carpenter, that's Jakes
1241
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.600
youngest son. And it's a piece
of drift wood. And we did we
1242
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.199
towed behind a jet ski. We
did have any things. We found this
1243
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:08.439
drift wood and it should have broken
half the whole day. We're towing behind
1244
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.000
this thing, and I keep it
as a memory thing. It's a piece
1245
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:13.720
of wood, right, has a
little string around it because we found the
1246
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.279
string. And that thing's more.
If the house got robbed and that was
1247
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.760
gone, I'd be like, oh
my god, the piece of wood.
1248
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:23.760
And that's so weird to think that
there's really expensive shit in my house.
1249
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.960
But that's the thing that would kill
me. Because it's not a thing to
1250
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.439
me, it's a it's actually a
possession of my happiness, Like that brought
1251
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:33.359
so much joy to me. This
stick. Yeah, So it's like,
1252
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:38.560
yeah, obviously you have the material
shit that doesn't bring you happiness. But
1253
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:41.960
what's cool is that if you have
a great life, you have good perspective.
1254
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.479
When you get an electric bike for
the first time, which I got
1255
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:46.199
a couple of weeks ago, you're
on it like, holy shit, this
1256
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:51.760
is so every day I'd be like, I'm not having a good day,
1257
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.560
I'm gonna go on this fucking bike, and I go buy all the little
1258
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.520
kids peddling because I like to pedal
and have the electric So I was like,
1259
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.760
ah, yeah, I know,
it's fun. It's fun to live
1260
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.199
in this time. And here's someone
your age actually thinking, at my age
1261
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:10.279
in my forties, thinking I wish
these kids could get it because I'm so
1262
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:14.119
further along. I get it,
and I'm there smiling, out of shape
1263
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:17.159
now not as happy as I was
healthy. But then when I see someone
1264
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:23.359
your age that's totally in a place
where you could be so disrespectful to your
1265
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:28.319
own self, be your well being
with ego and fucking bullshit and you're not.
1266
01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:31.880
It's so encouraging because hopefully we had
Rosemanchada on last time, and she's
1267
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.880
everyone thinks of her as Robin Chadda's
daughter. That's a model. But then
1268
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:38.520
when I got to pull out her
life story because I know her, she
1269
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.239
had to go to a little island
off her reunion. It's a French island
1270
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.840
in the middle of South Africa,
and her best friend got eatn by shark.
1271
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.720
She fucking just wanted to come back
to California and grow up and hear
1272
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.039
she Hannah Montana was her idol.
She's like, I can go to California
1273
01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:55.600
and about Tana. She came here
at thirteen and said, look at all
1274
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.960
this opportunity, Look at this It
could be anything I want, like anything.
1275
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:00.520
But if she grew up here whole
life, she'd be eat in pajamas,
1276
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.239
smoky pen, electric bike, nightmare
on her phone the whole time.
1277
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:09.199
But she's just like you. She
doesn't drink, smoke, nothing, and
1278
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:14.119
she's driven by things that make her
whole. And it's they see the generation
1279
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:17.399
of you guys. She's gonna inspire
that. By the way, the song
1280
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.600
at the end that she sings,
I cry every time. Man I hate
1281
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.600
that. That made me so happy, but I hate it. She's beautiful
1282
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:29.079
voice, she sang to her grandpa
made us cry. But to see both,
1283
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:30.520
you guys at the say she's twenty
three, twenty two, that same
1284
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:34.760
an And to see these young kids
get to hear your story and see that
1285
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:40.680
they can actually think like a fifty
year old wise man or woman, it's
1286
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:44.600
insane. It gives me a hope. I thought you were gonna be this
1287
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.880
douey, fucking asshole that was social
media driven nightmare, all this stuff,
1288
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:53.720
and to find out that you're never
quay cooler than anybody that's been on this
1289
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:57.279
podcast makes me upset because these kids, I actually do have a future.
1290
01:14:57.319 --> 01:14:59.439
Man. Just follow the right people
out there, you guys, if you're
1291
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:01.680
listening, all the right people and
this is one of them. Think for
1292
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.279
yourself, find happiness through hard work, and just fucking live every day to
1293
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:09.800
the fullest. And be good to
people. Be good, just be a
1294
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.680
good person. It's so much better
to live life if you're nice, right,
1295
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:16.159
It's so much easier. Yeah,
there's just just less just less restriction
1296
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:20.279
less friction I mean I yeah.
And to go back to to Ma Chada
1297
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:25.680
family, I you know I love
Rose Roses so Rose, I've known Rose
1298
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.039
for a while. She actually on
one of your things this morning when I'm
1299
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.359
looking at how to like Rose.
Yeah, yeah, Rose is super rad.
1300
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.800
And I also I had a you
know, I I didn't know Rob
1301
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:38.640
well and I met Rose about a
year and a half, about three years
1302
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:42.680
actually before I met Rob. And
I met Rob at the pit of the
1303
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:46.159
Morgan Walling concert at the peco At
Stadium. Yeah, I met him there
1304
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.800
and before Morgan came on. Dude, I picked Rob Chada's brain for like
1305
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.199
an hour and a half and it
was the greatest conversation because he taught me
1306
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:58.560
so much about perspective of competing and
how to enjoy it. Like I actually
1307
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:00.439
picked his brain on like the way
his parents were and what his thoughts were
1308
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:05.720
with competition. Yeah. Well he
also talked like like my dad notoriously.
1309
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.239
I think a lot of people have
the perspective like if you know me and
1310
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:12.119
my career, you know, it's
like jaggering his dad. My dad's always
1311
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.600
been pretty tough on me as a
kid, and I love my dad to
1312
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:15.479
death and I understand why he did
it now, but at the time I
1313
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.159
didn't, you know, Yeah,
Jim. His dad was just here.
1314
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:21.720
He was the man. He was
a contest guy. Yeah, And you
1315
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:26.119
know, when I talked to Rob
about him and his dad's relationship, he
1316
01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:30.520
brought up one story about how his
dad when he came into paddle after he
1317
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:31.399
got down with a wave, he
got down with a wave and came into
1318
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.600
shore and his dad told him,
like, breathe. He's like, why
1319
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.319
don't you take breast in between your
heat so you're not exhausted, right,
1320
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.479
And so he came into shore,
took a breath, and then paddle back
1321
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:43.600
out during a heat. And it
was like a rare thing to do instead
1322
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:45.119
of like just he came all the
way, took a break. It took
1323
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.039
a break, took a breath,
and then went back out right. And
1324
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.960
I thought, like he probably didn't
think I made much of that story,
1325
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:55.600
But I actually took that story into
perspective because I started thinking, I'm like,
1326
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.079
what time of advice would my dad
give me that helped me? Like
1327
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.199
that? Like my dad always had
Like my dad's always had the greatest intentions
1328
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.279
for me, you know, he
always wanted me to succeed. And like
1329
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.439
when I started had that perspective,
like he just wanted to help me.
1330
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:10.000
Our relationship got so much better,
you know what I mean? And like,
1331
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:13.239
yeah, I mean I just love
that whole family and say anything that
1332
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.720
stuck with you like that Rob's dad
saying breathe did your dad ever do anything
1333
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.680
to say like hey, come in
here, take a break, or mentally
1334
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:23.760
that stuck with you, that helped
Oh my gosh, my dad's said so
1335
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.640
many things to me that has just
that has stuck me forever. I mean
1336
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.079
this quote alone, he said you
can have control or you can have growth,
1337
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.279
but you can't have both. Like
he He's dropped so many pieces of
1338
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.560
knowledge on me over these years,
and he's molded me the man that I
1339
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.840
am. You know. But what's
pop's name? Jeff? Jeff and moms
1340
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.680
Shelley, Shelley and Jeff. I
can't wait to meet you guys. This
1341
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:47.239
is insane. And same with Jet. That's such that must be a fun
1342
01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:49.960
Christmas every year you guys get together
and just well, I also have a
1343
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:54.119
younger brother named Costin. So yeah, so I have older brother Jet,
1344
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:59.079
younger brother named Costs who's fifteen or
actually just turned sixteen? Is that is
1345
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:02.479
it? Yeah? My mom saw
Eric Cass his name on the back or
1346
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:05.720
on the back of a black and
golden dependent truck. I love that.
1347
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:12.479
Yeah. And he is fifteen and
he loves skateboarding. Dude, he rips.
1348
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.439
He's he's competing in Phoenix sn this
next week. Yeah, he Ris.
1349
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:16.880
He's named after one of the goats. Yeah. And then my my
1350
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:20.520
dad, my dad was remarried to
my stepmom, Danny, who's an amazing
1351
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.920
woman as well, and they had
Hendricks and Bowie and Hendrix is the only
1352
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:28.199
girl in the family. Who's nine. Jagger and Hendricks in your family,
1353
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.079
Yeah, Hendricks, Hendricks and Bowe. Yeah, Hendricks. Actually you talk
1354
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:36.359
about horse racing Hendricks barrel races.
Yes, yes, my family's pretty pretty
1355
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:40.920
into rodeo. And how old are
the young ones? Ten and seven?
1356
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:44.039
Sweet? You got a big family, Yeah, we got a big family.
1357
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:48.119
Yeah, it's pretty special, insane. Yeah. So you guys all
1358
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:53.000
do a lot of different sports.
What sports do you do when you're not
1359
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.000
like, like I need to just
not look at a skateboard for like,
1360
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.800
it's always golf. Yeah, it's
always golf. I you know, I
1361
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.279
I wake up every morning around six
forty seven o'clock and I get in the
1362
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:04.640
ocean, Like every morning, no
matter what time of year. I've been
1363
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.840
doing that for a while now.
You didn't like surf or just swim,
1364
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:10.359
just swim, yeah, board shorts, just get in and just get in
1365
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.479
and get in the ocean. I
love that. If that's like my past
1366
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:15.039
time when I need to get it
d like when I hate my skateboard.
1367
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:19.079
Most of the time, it's something
that I'm complaining about because I when I'm
1368
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:23.840
enjoying my life, when I'm happy
and content, I love skateboarding. But
1369
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:28.119
when outside distractions get in the way
of something, I tend to not love
1370
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:30.880
skateboarding as much. And so when
I'm like I need to get rid of
1371
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.880
my skateboard, most time it's like, Okay, I need to do something,
1372
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:34.920
like I need to do something spiritual, like I need to read,
1373
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:36.800
or I need to go get in
the ocean. I need to be around
1374
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.600
my family. Right, But like, most of the time, I love
1375
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:43.680
skateboarding. Hopefully save that way.
Wow, I love that you go in
1376
01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:46.279
the water even if it's cold.
That's yeah, that's a boss move right
1377
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:50.159
there. To bear back in California
in the winter. Yeah, well,
1378
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:55.359
I mean cold water is the greatest
way to get rid of Vistal body fat.
1379
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.239
Yeah, do you see that.
I got the cold plunge out there,
1380
01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:01.000
Yeah, gold plunch out there and
jump in first. When we did
1381
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:05.000
Slater's podcast, he because he loves
those things, and we dialed it in
1382
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:08.439
everything. But it was cold ever
that night, it was cold, and
1383
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:10.359
I was like, yeah, we're
getting in for sure. We pulled,
1384
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:14.199
didn't do it, like he's just
been sitting there freezing since then. But
1385
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:16.880
yeah, those things do, like
the sauna, all the new treatment too.
1386
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:20.359
Like I'm sure you've been injured more
than any twenty three year old in
1387
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:24.000
the world, just like you saw
that thing. Mick Morris. Did you
1388
01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:26.960
see Mark m Morris yesterday? He's
coming home in a few days. I'm
1389
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:30.800
gonna hang out with he knee went
right into his eye, broke his cheek
1390
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:34.119
bone. He's fuck he got smoked. And uh, I mean our sports.
1391
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.960
I even put on his Instagram.
I said, the reason why we're
1392
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.159
cool is because our sports are dangerous. And it's true, man, I
1393
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.319
mean what we do is the hardest
thing about it is to keep it going
1394
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.600
after all these injuries. Like you
said, when you're hurt, it shows
1395
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.680
you who you really are, especially
in these sports. It's like Everyone's always
1396
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:54.279
hurt. There's no one out there
that's not injured in our sports. Yeah,
1397
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:57.479
there's always something yeah, so yeah, yeah, I mean that that's
1398
01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:59.560
one of the hardest things, right
is that you want it. You want
1399
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:00.880
to be like me, me me, oh no, my knees fractured.
1400
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:02.720
Oh no, I got a bad
ankle. Oh nobody. At the same
1401
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:04.880
time, you're like everyone else,
I know, everybody's hurt. Yeah,
1402
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:08.760
you know. And really what it's
like is who's got enough grit to push
1403
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:12.520
through it? So true? And
who's who's who's got enough grit to not
1404
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:15.720
to not let it eat them alive? Like to not be sitting there on
1405
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.079
the couch being like in two boots
being like, oh my god, like
1406
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:23.239
what am I going to do?
And someone's being like, oh oh hel
1407
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:26.520
or the golfers that like get in
a golf cart and leave because they're back
1408
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:28.920
not feeling good, you know,
like Tiger. I mean, you know
1409
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:31.520
someone and you're like, oh,
okay, you're out, You're done.
1410
01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:34.279
You're just second round, mid round, I'm out, and you're like,
1411
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:39.039
is your injury that bad? You're
like eating it's fucking going down a twelve
1412
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.520
stare step like a handrail and the
contas and he has a broken him like,
1413
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.880
let's go Tiger, Let's pick it
up here, buddy. No,
1414
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:50.159
but it's true. It's like every
single sport has no idea Like Fighters Man,
1415
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:53.920
Fighters is the gnarlist. Every time
the fight's over, they're like,
1416
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:56.800
yeah, I have a broken arm, like I had it all training camp,
1417
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.560
but I didn't want to not miss
this fight. You're a broken fucking
1418
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:01.520
arm. You know, those guys
are the most gangster people ever. I
1419
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:05.760
mean, all of our sports are
like Colby a motherfucker broke his back,
1420
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:11.600
like guys that that sport isn't practice
pelvis pelvis and then wins the fucking X
1421
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:13.960
game. After we talked to him, he was in the Ventura and that's
1422
01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.399
why I was watching it so hard. And that's where I saw a lot
1423
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:18.439
of you and Jewett. I was
stoked to see that. But our boy
1424
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:20.560
Kobe, we did the podcast a
once before that. He's like, you
1425
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:24.600
have interurs like basically my home turf
because he lives in the valley there.
1426
01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:27.680
And he won, and it was
so cool right after we did the podcast
1427
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:29.880
to see him go, this is
my one I want to win more than
1428
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:31.399
anything. And he won it on
his last run, right, I said,
1429
01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:33.760
a new world record. He saw
a new world record. And he
1430
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:38.279
had a broken pelvis a year before
it or something broken every time. I
1431
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:42.960
was like year and a half.
He broke his fractured his back, broke
1432
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.840
his pelvis in half, and then
he like also just got surgery on his
1433
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.279
both shoulders because they kept popping.
She was really good friends. She filmed
1434
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:51.800
him a lot. Yeah, I
worked on his movie. Oh okay,
1435
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.479
she's a really gnarly filmer. Okay, awesome. Yeah, and he had
1436
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.920
he told us about a trick that
he It was one hundred and fifty.
1437
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:03.239
He had a GoPro and when he
crashed, it was the worse action of
1438
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:08.600
his life since jump. That was
he was world record distance jump, which
1439
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:13.039
was currently about four hundred feet cut
so twice as far as I remember.
1440
01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:18.039
Yeah, So he they set up
the ramp and I went I didn't know
1441
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:23.319
that he had this whole big injury
because my team didn't go out to film
1442
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:27.199
that one. And then we went
out for the second jump when they had
1443
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:29.760
a new team that was doing.
It's all math, you know, like
1444
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:34.640
the angle of the ramp with the
angle of the landing, and the first
1445
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:39.239
team, I guess didn't do the
math quite right, and so he hit
1446
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:43.520
the jump the first time and it
was like literally the practice run that he
1447
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:45.680
wasn't trying to boost it super far, just like, okay, I'll get
1448
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.680
to it, which is like probably
only like three hundred feet. Yet no,
1449
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:53.199
it was the jump. It was
like one hundred and twenty five hundred
1450
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:56.439
and fifty. I've seen him backflip
two hundred and fifty feet, but the
1451
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.520
angle of it was so off that
he clipped the front lip of the landing
1452
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:06.279
and got sent flying another one hundred
and something feet and just the GoPro was
1453
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:12.000
on oh with audio and he fucking
he said the audio later when they watched
1454
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:16.640
it is him just screaming for bloody
murder, Like it's like heart wrenching,
1455
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:19.920
you know, like holy shit.
But seeing art, luckily, and surfing
1456
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:23.640
we just die. We just drowned. So it's like you don't have to
1457
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.319
hear screaming and all that stuff are
all I broke my it's surfing. I've
1458
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:30.960
lost five really my best friends in
the world surfing. But in skating it's
1459
01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:35.039
like the worst injuries but you don't
die, luckily. That's why I always
1460
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:40.000
love skateboarding. It's like, the
worst injury is you're still alive. It's
1461
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.279
surfing. We drowned. It sucks. It's just like bye bye forever.
1462
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.199
So I know that's really dark little
comment there, Sorry, but I always
1463
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.399
would. I'd be with Danny Way
and travis'strana. We're sponsored by the
1464
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.439
family or the family not sponsored,
but that was our agency. So we
1465
01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.000
go to New York on trips for
these internet things and all this stuff,
1466
01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.760
and they would talk about their injuries, like, holy shit, he's like,
1467
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.880
broke my back, broke my hip. The Travestawant and Danny Way talking
1468
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.159
back their injuries, and I was
like, god, damn it. Like
1469
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:06.439
I've had a you know, spine
injury. I've had torn acls stuff.
1470
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.600
But I was like and then I
told them about how my friend, my
1471
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:12.680
best friend drowned in front of me
and all this stuff, and they're like,
1472
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:14.880
ooh, that's kind of bad.
But I'm like, yeah, but
1473
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:18.239
you have two broken backs. Like
Danny Way's body is like a specimen of
1474
01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:21.520
injury. He's like he goes to
that stem cell probably every weekend just for
1475
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:28.319
fun, Like, yeah, it's
incredible. Medicine's gotten too right. My
1476
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:31.800
mom had fucking gauze in her fucking
injury. Yeah. The doctor's like,
1477
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:38.119
oops, he's like drinking his coffee. Fuck man. Yeah, nowadays you
1478
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:41.520
guys can bounce back a lot quicker, for sure. But so the what's
1479
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.119
the plan right now for the next
few months for you? Are you going
1480
01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:46.199
into compete where we're at right now
on your Yeah? So the next the
1481
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:51.640
next few months look like the Olympic
Tournament or Olympic qualifier in May in Budapest
1482
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:58.760
May fifteenth, uh, and then
June is Shanghai. And that's that's back
1483
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:00.199
to back. So these are the
two big ones that you have to get.
1484
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:02.720
There were fifty hundred. Yeah.
I just need to be top three
1485
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:05.680
Americans in both sweet in both contests, and now I'll make the team.
1486
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:09.920
Yeah, and that's that's the goal. That's fucking cool. Man. We're
1487
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:14.079
gonna be biggest rooting fans ever,
especially more or less now that I know
1488
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:15.840
you're a good human. It's just
like Cheetah, Cheetah. I was a
1489
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.039
big fan. I met him at
the surf ranch and everything, and I'm
1490
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.119
like, God, he seems like
a really good person. I went to
1491
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:23.399
his home and his family and and
I was like, oh, no,
1492
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.359
I love you. And then I'm
watching you fight. I'm like, god,
1493
01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.119
damn it, I've never had that
feelings watching it right here on this
1494
01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:31.399
TV. Every punch I'm like,
fuck that, okay. And then at
1495
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.800
the end he gets that liver shot
and I'm like, oh, and everyone's
1496
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.960
watching here. I'm so into Mma, me and Slater, the biggest UFC
1497
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:41.159
fans in the world, and that
liver shot. I was like, he
1498
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:43.359
got him, and no one else
was like, what are you talking about?
1499
01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:44.840
No, no, no, no, you guys, and he like
1500
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:47.000
fully buckled. You saw YouTube he
buckled. I was like, oh,
1501
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:49.239
he could get him, he can
get it right here. And then after
1502
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.199
the fight he just sits down.
You can tell he's like, fuck,
1503
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:56.079
good thing. This was going further, like he finally got him. And
1504
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.319
uh, for me, I love
Cheeto so much. I don't know Sean
1505
01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:02.720
and he's dopeest fuck too, but
I was rooting so hard for him that
1506
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:04.880
it was the hardest fight I've ever
watched. I was like, no,
1507
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:09.399
no, talk about you, and
I was I was like yelling and shit.
1508
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.000
And usually I watched the fights,
I just watch them, and now
1509
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.640
when I had an investment, it's
like now I'm gonna be watching your stupid
1510
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:17.800
ass fucking skate conness going come on, don't fall down. Yeah, then
1511
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:19.760
with you win, I'm gonna I
feel like I'm a part of it.
1512
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:24.720
It just gives you purpose when you
like somebody and they compete. It's like
1513
01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:27.359
my boy, Adam Scott's one of
my best friends in the world, and
1514
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.159
every time he competes, he's in
there. I freak out. When he
1515
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:32.720
won the Masters, dude, we
went to Cabo a few days later and
1516
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:35.840
he came with me and we would
have a Cabo trip every April. And
1517
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:39.960
he just won the Masters and we're
down there driving ATVs on the beach,
1518
01:27:40.079 --> 01:27:43.800
fucking tequila shots and he doesn't drink
barely, and he tells the story.
1519
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:45.720
He's like, remember that day,
like noon, we were doing tequila shots
1520
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.720
and I'm like, yeah, every
fucking day I did. What are you
1521
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:50.239
coming? Like? You know what
I mean. He's just such a dope
1522
01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:54.319
ass motherfucker. And when he won, it was the first Aussie to win
1523
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:57.520
the Masters. And I love geeking
out on golf with you because when he
1524
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.520
won and he puts his arms up
like, well, first we made the
1525
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:03.520
putt on eighteen to get in the
playoff. Remember that putt. I did
1526
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:06.279
not watch his win. Oh shit, yeah, it's the best Masters of
1527
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:10.399
all time. On hell Cabaro,
they go in the playoff, they both
1528
01:28:10.479 --> 01:28:13.039
stick it to one foot to get
in the playoff, and then they on
1529
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:15.600
the tenth he drains a twelve footter. It's my favorite golf tournament in my
1530
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:18.800
life because it's one of my best
friends. And I could just feel it.
1531
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:21.960
It was like relief for me because
I know how much that's the tournament
1532
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:26.000
he wanted to win. So like
when you win the Olympics, don't think
1533
01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:28.720
I'm not gonna be fanboy. I
mean, I'm gonna be have like a
1534
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:31.479
fake gold you know, the ones
that have chocolate, be like, look
1535
01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:35.319
at this, this is Jaggers.
But uh yeah, man, it's gonna
1536
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:40.960
be exciting because just like Cheetah,
you're winning already and I'm like, you're
1537
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.039
a freaking little Buddha and I dig
it. And I think that so many
1538
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:48.359
people are gonna benefit from your perspective
of life. And uh that's what these
1539
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:51.760
kids need. They need role models. I I appreciate you guys having me
1540
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:55.680
here, and I also appreciate those
questions too. I appreciate you picking my
1541
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.600
brain on that stuff. I go
again, Like I said, like,
1542
01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:01.159
I don't ask anybody to do anything
I don't do myself. And I have
1543
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:06.319
been I've I've felt the highs of
the attention, of the of the fake
1544
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:10.399
attention. I've also felt the lows
of it. And I think that life's
1545
01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:13.960
just life's just better when you can
manage your distractions, that's all. I
1546
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.399
don't know what drugs your parents gave
you when you're a kid, but fuck
1547
01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:21.760
everyone needs to take that drug right. It's fucking amazing, dude. It's
1548
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:25.760
gonna be cool too because when I
do finally meet your parents and like,
1549
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.720
can I stay at your house for
like a year? Like can we talk
1550
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:31.600
shit? Like talk shop shit shop? And Jet too? Is Jet living?
1551
01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:33.680
CALLI or is he in Arizona?
No, he's in Arizona. All
1552
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:38.800
My family's back in Arizona. Moved
where in Arizona? You're from? Mesa?
1553
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.880
Is that my Phoenix? Mesa's like
thirty minutes south? Okay? Yeah?
1554
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:45.600
And I was growing up in Arizona. Is it a trip? Growing
1555
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:47.800
up in Arizona was the greatest.
I mean, yeah, I think that
1556
01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:51.960
you really get a benefit a lot
of a lot of like the vastness of
1557
01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:55.800
the desert when you turn sixteen.
Like when I was sixteen, I got
1558
01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:59.079
a for Runner. I got big
tires on a big lift kit Hawaii,
1559
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.439
you know that, like big way
out there. Yeah, side a Forerunner,
1560
01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:03.279
and I took it out to the
desert, got lost. My buddies
1561
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:05.920
all day would go to the lake, wait forward, So like that was
1562
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:09.640
that was always to me, Like
when I turned sixty, that's all I
1563
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:11.920
want to do. But you live
here. I live here now, yeah,
1564
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:14.960
and do you spend a lot of
time over there. I try to
1565
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:16.800
go back home as much as I
can, Like I recently just fractured a
1566
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:19.119
little bone on my knee at tibia
plateau, and I went back home for
1567
01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:23.119
about two weeks just to heal.
And when I go back home, it's
1568
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.279
just amazing, you know, all
your besties, fucking all my besties.
1569
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:30.680
But also like it's amazing to be
twenty three and have young siblings, like
1570
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:32.479
to have like a ten seven year
old like Hendricks and Bowie. I love
1571
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.720
Costing to death, but sixteen year
old are hard to be around. If
1572
01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:38.920
you bet around moder sixteen year ols, there's just tough to be around tell
1573
01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:41.640
that to his face. But I
love the death and also being involved in
1574
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.000
his skate career as much as I
can give him some perspective. But man,
1575
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:49.000
Hendricks and Bowie like just watching her
ride horses, watching Bowie like love
1576
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:54.960
skating too, and it's it's just
crazy to be to watch that because I
1577
01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:58.319
don't remember anything in my childhood.
I don't remember. You're watching what you
1578
01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:00.119
were? Like, Yeah, I
don't remember. I don't remember. I
1579
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:03.079
don't even remember being fifteen, Like, I barely remember a lot of my
1580
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:06.680
childhood. It could accumulate to the
head hits. It could be it could
1581
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:10.199
be like PTSD do know what it
is, right, But I just don't
1582
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.800
remember much my childhood and watching them
fall in love with skating and watching my
1583
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:16.479
little brother compete, and that nervousness, the anxiousness, like it's just amazing.
1584
01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:23.159
I just realized, Bowie, Jagger
and Hendricks, your parents hate music.
1585
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:29.039
It sounds like hard cool completely surrounded
by their parents. His parents just
1586
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:33.000
have the best music taste. Yeah, well, obviously right, and that
1587
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:35.560
is so cool. You love your
little siblings too, and you're not some
1588
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:40.039
douchey guy that's like I was.
I was. I was gone, you
1589
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:43.840
know it would surfing. You travel
really far places. It's cool that you
1590
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:48.279
guys can stay statesideled about thirty forty
fifty the time. There's not too much
1591
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:51.000
overseas, right, I mean there
hasn't been one a little bit qualifier in
1592
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:54.359
the United States. Oh really Yeah, so most of the time they all
1593
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:58.199
they are like always abroad. But
but yeah, I mean, if if
1594
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.640
I couldn't a hard beat, I'll
move back home if I couldn't hard be,
1595
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:01.880
just to be, just to be
near them. But I think that's
1596
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:05.039
where you're gonna lie your rest of
your older life. Yeah, of course
1597
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:08.119
I'm gonna buy. I'll buy.
I'll buy a ranch out there, have
1598
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:11.479
horses, and I'll do I'll do
the whole We'll do the whole country lifestyle.
1599
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:13.880
You can handle the weather, it's
normal for you, right, Yeah,
1600
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.720
no problem, yeh problem. I
mean that's the lifestyle that my family's
1601
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.399
been doing, and that that's just
to me. Is is home? You
1602
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:21.479
know? Home? Is that life? And does Pops do any sports?
1603
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:26.039
Is he golf? Yeah? Pops
golff, Yeah, he golfed. He
1604
01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:30.720
must love yourself. I beat him. I beat him on Easter twenty sixteen,
1605
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:35.039
and since then it has been tough
golfer together because they're so competitive.
1606
01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:39.199
But he falls out though, huh
obviously, Yeah, he's a good golfer.
1607
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:42.680
What's your handicap? I'm about a
three or four now, Okay,
1608
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:44.960
yeah at the time. At the
time, you know, I feel like
1609
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:46.960
I ben scratched, but like three
or four now. Really the swing chains
1610
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:49.640
I'm making, getting my getting my
grip a little bit more weak. It's
1611
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:53.520
going to be so fun. I
can't wait. Let's go del Mare Country
1612
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:56.880
Club and let's dance whenever or not. It's a tough track, a few
1613
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.600
tough holes there, for sure.
Yeah. Since I became a remember there,
1614
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.000
like I feel like I've gone such
better of a golfer. I just
1615
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:05.319
love it. My best friend is
the coach or not coach head pro at
1616
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:10.800
NCS Ranch. You ever met Doug
Timmons, And he's Canelo Alvarez's coach,
1617
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:14.600
and he fly over the world in
his private jet and he had just got
1618
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:17.279
back from Guadalajara a few days ago, and uh, he's getting good.
1619
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:20.880
Canelo's swing looks so Canelo is a
good golfer. Did you get to do
1620
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:26.199
celebrity tournaments right? Have you done
the Tahoe or no, I haven't done
1621
01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:29.840
Tahoe yet. Yeah. Most of
the time those just conflict of competition.
1622
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.439
It's like after the Games, I'll
when you're getting older and retired, you're
1623
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.680
gonna be in all those celebrity tournaments. Just keep balling out in the skate
1624
01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:39.680
world so you could do those things. I got caddie for Kelly at Pebble
1625
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:43.840
two years ago. The best experience
ever. Me and my best friend sitting
1626
01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:45.439
there on like the eighth hole over
the ocean, going is this real?
1627
01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:49.159
How did he do there? He's
he's really good. But you know in
1628
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:51.760
the pro am there, if you
have a bat hole, he's pick up.
1629
01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:55.920
You know, they only take your
scores that are good. But he's
1630
01:33:56.159 --> 01:34:00.279
dude, Kelly's you know, he's
a scratch and his puttying and drying his
1631
01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:01.319
flawless, and that's what you need. You don't want to miss the fair
1632
01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:05.000
way at Pebble, and he made
every drive is two ninety down the middle
1633
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:11.159
and it's putting his next level.
So yeah, it's fun too because he
1634
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.720
if he wanted to, he could
be a pro golfer. Still, like
1635
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:15.159
in the Champions story, we all
got to get a t time out there,
1636
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:18.560
denblarin in great shape right now,
and I got all the hookups found
1637
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:21.039
I think golf has been my thing
since I was a little kid, and
1638
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:26.039
I know everyone in this town.
So we could go play Santulus like I
1639
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:29.640
love La Costa. And now McKay
is a fucking member. Oh really yeah,
1640
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.319
we golf golf. So he I
want him on the podcast. He's
1641
01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:34.119
like, man, I don't know, like I'm a little nervous this and
1642
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:35.880
that. And he goes, you
want to go golf? And I go
1643
01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:39.960
what, I go, you golf? And he's like, yeah, I'm
1644
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.439
super into it. I'm a member
at La Costa. And he came out
1645
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:45.760
and we had such good time because
he's the same age as me and we
1646
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:48.560
grew up together and we had all
those years partying. We both got our
1647
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:51.840
first houses right here, big old
house on the beach, and shit and
1648
01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:57.520
raged party we hit. We were
totally out of control and uh and now
1649
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:00.880
we're older and we're like, now
we're golfer and hanging out like just normal
1650
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.000
dudes. And it was it was
really refreshing, because God, is that
1651
01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:08.960
guy not just the sweetest, most
amazing athlete, cool dude all around McKay
1652
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:12.000
is the shit. So he's such
a good dude. He takes care of
1653
01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:14.560
me. When I was in Canada, I'd always buy weed before I go
1654
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.760
snowboard every time go into his little
town there and fucking Vancouver. He's just
1655
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.359
the dopest guy ever. And uh
yeah, I told him I was doing
1656
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:24.800
a podcast with you, so he
was. He respects the young guys,
1657
01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:27.600
which a lot of you know,
older skater guys, they could take it
1658
01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:31.279
or leave it. But he seems
like him and Danny and Tony taking care
1659
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:34.520
of these that young girl and like
showing her the way in the ropes.
1660
01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:38.880
I mean, that's it's impactful.
And that's what I can't even imagine what
1661
01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:41.279
you're gonna be like in your forties. These kids are probably gonna be out
1662
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:44.880
there showing them exactly how to do
what you did and be successful. Right
1663
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:47.640
Yeah. I think I think the
biggest lesson that I would probably teach young
1664
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:53.399
young skateboarders now or even when I'm
older, is just to understand the understand
1665
01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:57.960
how to comprehend the fear as you
get older, Like skating skating is so
1666
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:01.359
dangerous, there's so much fear involved
that it makes you It just it's really
1667
01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:06.399
hard to not fall into that ego, to not fall into that trap,
1668
01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:10.119
you know, because there's so much
fear, like you talked about like surfing,
1669
01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:13.079
skating, snowboarding, there's just so
much risk, you know. But
1670
01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:15.239
yeah, again, go back Colin
and Danny, Like, man, those
1671
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:19.239
those two, like those they were
my start, Like they were who I
1672
01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:23.840
pioneer my skate career around, and
they were the first people gave me a
1673
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:27.359
chance. And who's your favorite skater
of all time? Like who's the guy?
1674
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.960
Was Tom Kurrn and skating surfing?
Oh my gosh, man favorite skater?
1675
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:32.439
I mean, I just I,
you know, I feel like just
1676
01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:35.840
because I'm such a fan of the
sport, Like I'm just I love different
1677
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:42.239
things, like I loved I loved
how Danny was able to do such technical
1678
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:45.319
flip tricks on Vert, but I
also love that same reason for Colin,
1679
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:49.159
like, and I also love their
relationship like that was me and Jedi felt
1680
01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:51.479
like, you know, like we
just had that relationship where we always want
1681
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:55.720
to be better than each other and
they were just so good in their unique
1682
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:58.920
ways. And then Bob like doing
all that on Mega and watching his video
1683
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.479
parts do and not kind foot all
of the fakies on on Mega Like,
1684
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.840
it's just all that to me is
just so inspiring. So to me pick
1685
01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:08.760
it like a favorite skater. I
mean, the only person I can think
1686
01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:12.760
about who's like well rounded that I
feel like I pioneered a lot my career
1687
01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:15.119
off of is Danny. That's insane. He's gonna love to hear that.
1688
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:19.039
He's Jack Johnson right now too,
that fucking guy fucking those workout videos.
1689
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.560
I'm like, take it easy,
killer. Do you know Paul Hindeker.
1690
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:26.680
Yeah, that's who I work with
my trainer, check Check And is that
1691
01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:29.399
what it is company called Paul Check? Well, yeah, so Paul check
1692
01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:31.319
is another another it's not the same
guy. No, Paul Hinnecker is another
1693
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:34.439
trainer who Danny and Colin worked with
too, and try to hear down in
1694
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:40.319
incident he's okay, yeah, yeah, but Hinnecker is sick and we've been
1695
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:43.439
working great together. And uh yeah, you train a lot. Huh train
1696
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:46.439
every day? Fuck stop it with
all that ship. That's just too cool.
1697
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:49.600
I mean, if you can trade
every day, there's no stopping you.
1698
01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:53.239
Well, I mean I'm just not
going to go. I'm just not
1699
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.319
going to negotiate with myself. You
know that that I think that's kind of
1700
01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:58.920
the whole thing, right, It's
like, I don't my perspective of training
1701
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:01.239
is not like grueling, right,
Like my train that I do is all
1702
01:38:01.319 --> 01:38:06.439
like DNS diaframatic breathing, like yoga
type training on top of eating right and
1703
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:10.880
sleeping right and getting the ocean like
these things to me is just a daily
1704
01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:14.000
life. It's kind of what I
feel like I need to sustain my sanity,
1705
01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:17.960
you know, because when you're when
you're a competitor, and you when
1706
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:20.920
you're a competitor and you dedicate as
much of your life as I have to
1707
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:25.159
competition, Like it's been nineteen years
of competition now, and I you know,
1708
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:28.279
I feel like at this level,
it's just a different it's just a
1709
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:33.239
different type of mentality. It's like
every day is enjoyable, but every day
1710
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:38.000
needs to be dedicated and have a
purpose. Takes the anxiety out of nervousness,
1711
01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:42.359
because you already know the feeling of
taking the anxiety from training and working
1712
01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:45.239
at something. When you go out
to compete, the nerve level is almost
1713
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:48.000
kind of gone now because you're so
skilled at what you're doing, it just
1714
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:50.600
comes natural, right, are you
at that point. Well, I mean
1715
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.119
here is the best part. Yeah, Well you want to be compete like
1716
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:56.720
you train and train like you compete. Like I think that's the biggest thing,
1717
01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:59.359
right you talk about like that,
like you talk about Jordan, or
1718
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:02.840
you talk about out Kobe, or
you talk about these amazing athletes, right
1719
01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:06.239
like Tom Brady, Like you go
back to what their practices look like they
1720
01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:13.039
were simulated tournaments. They were not
they were not meto practices like Michael Jordans
1721
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:15.359
sacks Steve Kerr in the face in
a practice in a practice, right,
1722
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.960
like like these types of simulations like
I punch the shit out of my board
1723
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:24.039
in practices, like I get pissed
and I'm I'm simulating contests and I'm simulating
1724
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:27.319
pressure, and I have people in
there, I have people in there watching
1725
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:31.039
taking percentages, like I like,
I'm really I'm really dedicated to like really
1726
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.279
just on a pursuit of perfection.
Like That's what I'm searching for, you
1727
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:38.279
know. And I think that when
you can dedicate your time and each day
1728
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:41.800
to something like that, like it
just gives you a better outlook of the
1729
01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:45.079
athlete you could become. I think
that I think that's my whole thing,
1730
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.920
and you really, I mean you
just I feel like you you find that
1731
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:54.640
perspective when you're when you just stop
the bad shit, like when you stop
1732
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:59.319
surrounding yourself with people who are complaining, who are not disciplined, who don't
1733
01:39:59.319 --> 01:40:03.279
have good habits. When you start
having great habits and being hydrated and being
1734
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:06.520
well nourished and all these things.
Like when you start doing that, you
1735
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:12.520
start realizing that you're probably operating at
like thirty forty percent of your capacity.
1736
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.159
Like what does eighty to ninety look
like? Yeah, being selfish for the
1737
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:18.479
right things is exactly important thing,
Yeah, because you being self for those
1738
01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:21.399
right things are actually going to help
everybody around you. So true, you
1739
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:24.600
know, and you're going to become
a beam alight, Like you're going to
1740
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:27.680
become a person that people can look
for for advice and for all that.
1741
01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:30.199
Like when I have like my greatest
feeling ever is having my parents ask me
1742
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:33.199
about health advice. My parents will
actually ask me like, hey, so
1743
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:35.560
why the cold plunge? Like hey, so, why are you eating more
1744
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:39.920
leafy greens or omega three is or
magnesium or why are you taking these setiments?
1745
01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:42.399
Why a you're doing auglu to meine
like when I get it, when
1746
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:45.840
I get to talk to them about
that and they're getting healthier and they're benefiting
1747
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:48.640
off of my sacrifice to be healthy, like that is like the most fulfilling
1748
01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:54.479
heartfelt. That's like, that's that
is the reason why, Like that's the
1749
01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:58.119
why. It's not the metals.
You affect your parents so much that it
1750
01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:01.000
it's it's got to be the amazing
thing for them. It's the greatest.
1751
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:04.239
I mean and you and you probably
feel this too, being like an amazing
1752
01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:09.079
surfer like you when you get a
past that along, like when some if
1753
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.640
some young gun comes up to you
and has advice and you can be like,
1754
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:14.640
I know exactly what to do,
like here's how to help. It's
1755
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:18.359
so insane what you're saying. It's
it's almost like you're you're talking I'm talking
1756
01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:21.479
to myself right now. It's like
I've it's taken me so long to have
1757
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:26.479
these words that are coming out of
your mouth, and I feel I feel
1758
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:30.479
enlightened because I finally like I actually
have stuff to help people with and you're
1759
01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:34.239
at twenty three, are so far
along. It's it's insane, bro,
1760
01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:38.600
Like I I never thought a million
years this is gonna be the interview we
1761
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:41.640
had. I had no I literally
thought we're gonna be talking about some corny
1762
01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:44.800
ash shit. I saw Jimmy Kimmel
or one of those type show. You
1763
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.760
wore this crazy suit and you just
got the bronze and you're in this thing,
1764
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:49.760
and I was like, I don't
know if I like this guy.
1765
01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:55.960
You know that shit was crazy.
But that was the point, like I
1766
01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:58.720
had a kind of show up.
But now I love that moment because I
1767
01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:02.039
know you're That wasn't what I saw, is not who you were, and
1768
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:04.880
that I love that crazy shit.
That's what I was. I wore crazy
1769
01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:08.520
suits in the Serverer Powl every year. I make custom suits in Bali when
1770
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.760
we were there, and I wear
them to the fuck thing. I love
1771
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:13.880
that. But I didn't know who
you were, And now that I do,
1772
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:17.039
I'm like, it's insane, man, I really, really, really
1773
01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:21.560
do love you as a person.
And that's it's it's only been like an
1774
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:25.640
hour and a half of knowing you. It's insane. It's it's it's a
1775
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:30.279
it's it's the biggest compliment to your
parents ever. I think your parents are
1776
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:32.439
the coolest people. And I've never
met him and it's because of the person
1777
01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:39.960
they made than it's unreal. Your
parents must be over the moon every day
1778
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:44.600
they wake up. They're like,
I'm gonna name him Jack fucking Johnson and
1779
01:42:45.159 --> 01:42:47.760
Harry Farrell and like whatever fucking music
they're listening to while they had sex.
1780
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:51.920
I mean, are you guys having
sex to Mick Jagger and the nineteen Where
1781
01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:56.520
were you born in two thousand and
one? See Jagger? Yep, that's
1782
01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.520
awesome. Man. Shout out again
to your parents before we end this podcast,
1783
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.520
because I'm gonna have them on p
Teason three, both of them,
1784
01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:06.239
and just pick their brains and be
like what happened in your guys life that
1785
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:11.319
you could create these human beings that
are going to change change the world.
1786
01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:13.840
You guys are gonna change the world, man. And that the cool part
1787
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:15.359
is is you have the platform.
You don't like social media? Cool,
1788
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:18.560
But when you do post, make
it about what you're talking about. I
1789
01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:20.840
mean that, Yeah, that's my
whole point. Like, like when I
1790
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:24.079
say I'm not on social media,
I don't mean it in the way where
1791
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:26.520
I think everything on social media is
negative. I just think a lot of
1792
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:30.560
people are using social media as a
way to promote very negative connotations and very
1793
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.720
negative habits, like I just that's
just not who I am, you know.
1794
01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:36.680
I use I use social media now
a lot to promote the partners that
1795
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:40.520
I'm a part of because they've they've
sacrificed a ton to be involved with me,
1796
01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:44.319
you know, and also like I
do use my platform to promote things
1797
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.359
like you know, I think that's
I think that's right. I use well,
1798
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:49.000
I know, I use my platform
to promote things I believe in,
1799
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:54.079
like whether it's brands or sayings.
But I also use my platform like it's
1800
01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:57.159
all very personal, Like I'm not
I'm not just letting somebody run and be
1801
01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:59.279
like Okay, I'm out, you
know, like I'm definitely on there.
1802
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What I post is real, and
uh yeah, I mean I appreciate you
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01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.720
coming. My parents they're gonna love
to hear that. I can't wait for
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them to hear this. We had
this young guy, Skip Surfer from San
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01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:13.119
Diego. His mom wrote us a
text on what was that Facebook she knows
1806
01:44:13.199 --> 01:44:17.199
on Instagram Instagram. She wrote this
big, long text like thanking us for
1807
01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:23.079
having Skip on the podcast, and
then mentioning that he and his brother used
1808
01:44:23.119 --> 01:44:26.640
to watch one of Benji's movies on
their little TV in the kitchen, like
1809
01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:30.000
every single week when they're like six
or seven little kids, and they would
1810
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:32.720
every morning they'd watch the same video
that I don't know what video or what
1811
01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:35.880
I was in or whatever, but
and they would watch every morning. And
1812
01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:39.319
then they'd come in and she goes, don't you want a different movies?
1813
01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:41.920
Shot up? And they would eat
zeero every morning and do it. And
1814
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:45.239
she's telling the story and saying how
happy it was to hear her son's story
1815
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:48.720
through this podcast and everything, and
it's same thing. It's like happy mom,
1816
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:51.319
happy life. And your mom's gonna
be so happy to hear this.
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01:44:51.399 --> 01:44:54.560
It's gonna be said, she's gonna
listen to it. She's gonna write a
1818
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:58.800
comment like he didn't watch surf videos, but he watched this fucking Danny Way
1819
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:01.960
and call ok Plan video over and
over where they both were wearing white teas
1820
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:04.560
and like fighting and shit remember that
video, like when their very first parts
1821
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:10.039
are both like fourteen, that video
that was my life growing up with freaking
1822
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:15.640
those hassholes. And I bet you
know Sean Schaffee and Sal Barbier I saw
1823
01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:17.760
the other night, And we're gonna
put Christian Hassoi on the podcast soon because
1824
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:23.159
he's a really good friend of mine
and I just the skate world needs more
1825
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.119
of this, and so does the
surf world and everyone the world needs more
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01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:29.520
of this. So, uh,
dude, I can't think enough for coming
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01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:31.840
on the potty. Do you have
anything else to say? I'm just honestly
1828
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.479
dumbfounded by this entire episode. Yeah, it's cool. This is the opposite
1829
01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:40.680
pretty much of what I expected to. I don't know, so twenty three
1830
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:44.439
year old pro skater was gonna be
a freaking Buddha. You're gonna go to
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01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:48.439
Bali and so I can like elevate
and freaking this is cool. There's nothing
1832
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:53.720
I can say that is gonna make
the future of your life better because you
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01:45:53.760 --> 01:45:56.760
already figured it out. Man.
Just keep doing you keep going to that
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01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:00.399
ice plunge every morning, Get in
the water, even if it's got poop
1835
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:02.359
in it from all the rain.
You know, have you been going in
1836
01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:05.800
the water lately with this all the
rain? Yeah, I haven't missed today
1837
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:09.680
since the beginning of this year.
Where do you go? Just right there
1838
01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:12.880
in Cardiff? Yeah, I just
go to seaside. That's so cool.
1839
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.600
Well, Jag, thanks so much
for taking the time. Bro. Yeah,
1840
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:16.720
no, thank you guys so much. And then, like I said
1841
01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:21.840
earlier, like I appreciate I appreciate
you guys asking the real questions, and
1842
01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:25.479
I appreciate your perspective. Like like
you said, you know, I think
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01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.319
a lot of a lot of our
world's our world especially, but the world,
1844
01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.920
you know, I think needs a
lot of a big consciousness shift.
1845
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:32.279
And I do see, ah,
I do see a little bit movement in
1846
01:46:32.479 --> 01:46:34.880
the right direction. You're going the
right direction, dude, I got chicken
1847
01:46:34.920 --> 01:46:40.159
skin when you've been seeing this stuff. And I'm nervous for these young kids.
1848
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.640
I'm nervous that they don't have the
right path. It's not hard when
1849
01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:45.600
your parents are putting a phone to
play a video game because they don't want
1850
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:47.760
to deal with you. They're like, here, do that, okay,
1851
01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:53.680
you're taking care of You're out there
golfing. That's the way to keep your
1852
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:57.960
perspective in there, because just like
MMA, but not as painful. It'll
1853
01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:00.720
teach you a lesson on every hole, every fucking team shot. When you're
1854
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:03.399
like, ah, all right,
just every technical thing about golf is so
1855
01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:06.159
fun because some days that you don't
think you're gonna play good you do and
1856
01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:09.760
then some days you go out there
like I'm gonna kick everyone's asking. You
1857
01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.720
can't play well and things are off, and dude, I mean, it's
1858
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:15.119
the same thing as surfing or skateboarding
and surfing, but you don't have a
1859
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:18.560
shark trying to eat you or a
ramp that's gonna cut your head off.
1860
01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:21.840
So yeah, dude, I can't
wait to see the future of this kid.
1861
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:27.159
This is gonna be fun to do. And after the Olympic gold medal
1862
01:47:27.159 --> 01:47:30.159
that you win, come back on
this thing to ship. Yeah, be
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01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:33.920
a good one. Appreciate you,
buddy. Thanks guys, and he broke
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01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:38.920
the mic. That's that was a
drop. That was the one. I
1865
01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:43.000
love you guys, peace out,
cheers. That was the best