Larson Takes Over the Chase, Kes is Bailing on RFK

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Southern California. Meanwhile, right across the internet from your beautiful
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studio by the bay, version 2.0, it is Mr.
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Scotty Woz. What's that in there, Wozman? I'm one less
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tooth now.
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Wait, what?
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Oh, that's right.
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The Wasp Man had a tooth pulled.
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Yeah, so it was a couple weeks back, which is
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why we didn't record last week and the week before
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we had scheduling issues. So glad you could join us again, folks.
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It's like our Beatles moment on top of a roof.
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But yeah, no, so my tooth's been hurting, so I
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go in there, and they're just like, yeah, so your
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filling's there, but there's a cavity underneath it. And we
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don't know if a root canal is going to take. Oh, no.
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So the options are we can try a root canal.
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And if it doesn't take, we pull out the rest
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of it or just pull it out straight out now.
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I'm just like, take it, dog. It's from the side
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of my mouth. It's fine. Really?
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All right. So what happens then? Do they put something
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in place of that or no?
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They put synthetic bone in there and suture it all up.
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And then I finally, the suture came loose because it dissolves, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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uh so it dissolved and like the string was in
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my mouth so i had to get like a thing
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of scissors and clip no gosh oh no that's terrible
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that was fun oh my god like i for like
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the for three days i was kind of futzing with
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it because it was rubbing against my gum i'm like
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yeah and so i'm just like thank god that finally
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came out oh.
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Man so is it in the back so you don't
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have to like have a fake tooth put up in
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there Now, if.
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I want to get an implant, it's fine, but it's
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not my spinal line or anything like that. But it's
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in the chomping zone. Yeah. So it's weird when I'm
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eating and then there's no resistance. There just goes through
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a hole in the side of my mouth.
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Oh, weird.
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It's kind of wild. Wow.
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I'm lucky enough. Knock on wood. I've only had one
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root canal.
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That's it.
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It was a really tough one. It was a front tooth. And, uh, yeah,
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they had to do like, they stopped twice and took
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x-rays while they were drilling to make sure they weren't
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going to, you know, split it and mess everything up,
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but they did it. So knock on wood, I don't
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have to have another one because that's always my fear
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is like, you have these, you know, these cavities that
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were filled years and years ago. And, you know, if
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it comes loose or something, you don't know, how do
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you know?
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Exactly. They use like low grit. They use like low
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graded iron.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Who knows what they put in my mouth?
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You know, it's a it's a it's a blessing. You
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didn't get mercury poisoning somehow.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Especially with those silver ones, which I've had two silver
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ones drilled out and replaced. Was yours silver or no?
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Uh, it was, I think. Yeah. Yeah, it was.
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I guess I got lucky because I had two of them.
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And then after that, any other ones I got were
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like the porcelain ones. And they drilled those guys out
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and then replaced them.
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And it was silver because I'm just like, well, it's
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the cheaper option. I don't have to blend it with
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my teeth because it's not going to be seen. That's
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all to say, watching this Kansas race was like pulling
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teeth too.
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Exactly.
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Holy crap, was that just a boy. It was a
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nice display of dominance. Yeah. But boy, did that just
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not yield anything.
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And good seats still available, by the way.
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Brother, the shot, shout out to the USA network for
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showing how bold, how blank it was. And I sent
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you a screenshot of, of what was happening is when
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they went to DJ and the hippie, um, you could
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see in the background, you could still see the Kansas
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speedway painted into the seats because no one was sitting
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up there and no one was sitting down the other side. Um,
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and boy, just not a good, not good race in
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there with this car. Um, and I mean, Shout out
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to Kyle Larson for figuring it out in the playoff.
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You also have to wonder if, you know, sandbagging for
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the first 26. But, I mean, it just wasn't a
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good showing. And, you know, in general, I mean, I
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can see why people don't show up to that race. Yeah. Yeah.
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And to.
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Your point about Kyle Larson and Chevy, too. Chevy and Ford.
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All right.
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So all year long, and apparently there's some sort of
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like splitter issue that there was a rule change or
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a mandate that was sent down. Toyota had discovered something.
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Apparently they discovered something with the front splitter that they
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were using that was giving them at least some sort
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of advantage theoretically. Well, maybe that was the case because
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now that the chase has started yet, we had one
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winner in, um, what was it?
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Chase?
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I can't remember who it was. Briscoe, you know, uh, no, no,
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it was, um, ah, it was the 20 car.
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Christopher Bell. Yeah. See, yeah.
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Seabell. Seabell won the first one. But then since then
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we've had, you know, Larson win in the Chevy, Joey
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Logano in the Ford, uh, larson and a chevy again
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and all of a sudden those guys look pretty competitive
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and as we'll talk about here in a couple of
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minutes they're both near the top of the standings and
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larson is leading and denny hamlin's like what am i
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gonna do.
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Yeah i mean toyota's kind of just faltering again it's
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it's getting started early and then everyone else catching up
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at the right time yeah uh which kind of proves
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that the first 26 races are kind of pointless when
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you try to forecast what the hell's going to happen
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in the last 10 yeah um but i mean it's,
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it's about time and what better way to figure it
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out than in the playoff when, when it matters most. So,
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I mean, I guess all, all, all props to those, uh,
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the car, uh, the car chiefs figuring the whole thing out,
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but yeah, I mean, Toyota right now they're spiraling. I mean,
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but still it wasn't that bad of a race. They
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had three in the top six and four in the top, uh,
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top 10, including bubble who got a free, got everyone
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a free bacon egg biscuit at the hardy. So, uh,
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but I mean, yeah, it's just, uh, But again, basic
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intermediate track race too. Yeah. We see this all the
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time where one guy jumps out and gets a big lead.
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There's a little strikes here and there, but it's usually
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the pit stops that really do it. And then they
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check out all along and away we go. So yeah.
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And you're right. I might be overestimating the effect of
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the of the splitter thing, whatever it is. I didn't
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I saw some headlines on it. I didn't really look
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at it.
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I mean, there's smoke, there's fire, right?
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Yeah, no, you're right.
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Because William Byron's had a dog crap year and he
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finished seventh. I mean, he's been improving. I mean, he's
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had a couple of bad breaks with the engine blowing
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up and getting in other people's mess. But by and large,
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like he start to find it. Chase Elliott's kind of
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chump chomping at the bit there. Ryan Blaney has turned
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it on a lot. Austin Cintra got a second place
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finish for Pete's sake, and he was running up in
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the top five all day. Yeah, he was. Yep. So,
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I mean, there is some smoke and fire to that,
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but I don't know if it's as egregious as, you know,
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the headlines want you to believe or motorsports writers want
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you to believe.
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Yeah, but maybe a small difference can make a big change,
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or maybe a small change can make a big difference,
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I guess I should say.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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You know, the Toyotas were dominating, and they are not dominating.
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I mean, like you said, there's guys in the top 10.
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Demi Hamlin was third. Chase Prisco fourth, Seabell sixth, Bubba ninth.
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And those were your Toyotas in the top 10. So
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they're still up there. But yeah, to see the Chevys
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and the Fords in these first four races look really good.
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Maybe that small change makes a big difference. Who knows?
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And yeah, because that mile and a half is so
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dependent on aero when you get out in front. You
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find that clean air. And we saw Lars. But I
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think he won the first stage by seven seconds.
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Yeah, he was dominating early on.
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Yeah, for sure. Like it was wild, like how far
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out in front he got and just didn't look back
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after that. I mean, there was, like I said, a
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couple of challenges late, but I mean, you know, Chase
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Briscoe tried it and then just slammed the wall when
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he couldn't hold on to it there at the end.
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And then Larson just drove away with it after that. Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't think anybody was going to beat Larson in
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this particular one. And then, and then there was, I
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thought this was so funny. The, the Brad Keselowski, Carson
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Hosovar thing. They made contact. Josavar went into the wall
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and finished 33rd in this one. And Keselowski finished 12th.
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And it was so funny because they showed the replay
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like 10 times and they were like debating. Oh, man,
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what happened there? Did Keselowski wreck Josavar on purpose? And
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then all of the podcasts, including Dale Jr., like, oh,
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did he wreck him on purpose? Of course he effing
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wrecked him on purpose. Of course he did. Why wouldn't he?
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Well, I mean, also, Hosovar is trying to make room
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where there's not room to be made. Right. He moves
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to the middle and then tries to get back in,
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and then next thing you know, he's filled that spot. Yeah.
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I'm sure Brad wasn't going to let up either. If
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this was somebody else, he'd maybe get off the break.
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But again, it's off a restart. He's got guys behind
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him showing him. So, I mean, it's crazy that people
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are weirded out that Carson Hosovar has to reap what
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he sows. That's the wild part. He sowed so much,
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and now he has to reap it? How dare they?
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So a couple of things that I think about there,
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and I should give a little bit of leeway to
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Brad Keselowski because I don't know that he necessarily said,
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I'm going to wreck him right now. It's just that
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he raced Josevar the way that Josevar raced him and
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everybody else. And we saw that last week in the
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situation where Josevar didn't lift and ended up breaking... I
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can't even remember who it was at this point. Oh,
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it was Ryan Blaney. Ended up breaking Ryan Blaney. It
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led to the whole fight and everything. And the only
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reason that happened was because Josef Vard didn't lift when
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Blaney was coming down in front of him. And, you know,
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something that we didn't talk about because we didn't have
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a show, but Dale Earnhardt Jr. talked about it on
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his podcast. He literally talked and listened to the radio,
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talked to and listened to the radio of Joey Logano,
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who won that Bristol race. And Joey was in... an
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identical situation with Christopher Bell. And Bell passed him and
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came down on him. And Joey lifted a little bit.
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And they still made a little bit of contact, but
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it didn't wreck anybody. And Joey keyed up his radio
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and he was like, hey, you know, let the 20
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know that I didn't mean that. I'm not trying to
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make enemies out here. I just didn't expect him to
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come down and I lifted and I got into him
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a little bit and I'm sorry about that. And it
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was the same situation that Blaney had with Josevar. Blaney
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comes down and Josevar doesn't lift, right? Because he's like,
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I'm young, I'm going to win and I'm not going
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to lift for anybody. that's all Brad Keselowski did in
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that situation because it was on a restart guys were
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moving around. And when Kez saw the 77 come down
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on him, he's like, he doesn't live for anybody else.
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I'm not going to live for him. And so I
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don't think he meant to say, I don't know. I
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think he said in his brain, I'm going to wreck
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this guy right now. I think when the 77 came
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down on him, he was like, well, he doesn't live
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for anybody. I'm not going to live for him.
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had run-ins before with Hosovar. Yeah, a couple of weeks back. Yeah,
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why would you go ahead and not give a shot back?
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It's one of those things, you take a number and
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then get them back later, give them a receipt later.
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the 20 is going to be a lot more understanding,
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I think, because Christopher Bell is much more mature than
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Carson Hosovar. If you explain it to him that way,
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but again, Christopher Bell hasn't made enemies the way Carson
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Hosovar does, so slack will not be lifted. This nature
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here is.
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It's fine. This is the stuff that NASCAR needs to
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get people back onto it, as we'll talk here about
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the ratings and the lack of people who were watching it.
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You get something like this, now it's just a matter
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of marketing the right thing, marketing the hard-hitting action, not
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marketing all the wrestling crap like we saw at bristol
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but i mean just just dealing with all the stuff
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that's uh you know on track incidental comes with the
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sport not going out of your way to do something
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about uh just tough racing but um i'm also kind
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of glad that hosavar gets it maybe it's a reality
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check for him if it happens again this week where
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he had to finish you know it's kind of just
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like okay now all right now i get it especially
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if it's another guy from his past uh you know
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kind of reaching him like marley's ghost trying to figure
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that whole thing.
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Out Well, let me ask you this, since we didn't
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Ask me this.
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With the whole Blaney and Hosovar thing, the only comment
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about that, and I even watched Blaney on Denny Hamlin's podcast,
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but the only thing that really resonated with me that
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really made me think a little bit was listening to
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Dale Earnhardt Jr. talk about it. And I usually don't
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watch Junior's podcast, but I know that Junior does chat
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from time to time with Carson Hosovar. And so I
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thought maybe he would have a little bit more perspective.
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And he did. And he said on his show, he said, listen,
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Josavar understands that he's like stirring things up, but that's
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kind of his thing right now. And the impression that
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I got overall was that in his mind, and I
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don't disagree with this assessment, and this isn't what Junior said.
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It's me kind of inferring from the entire situation. It
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feels like in Josavar's mind, he's like, all right, I'm
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racing for Spire and Spire is much better this year.
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Thank you, Chris Capehart. We'll talk about him in a minute.
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They've got two cars in the playoffs. They're in the chase,
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but they're not going to win the championship. They're just
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not going to win the championship. And so if you
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are Carson Josevar, you have a couple of options here.
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You drive to the ability of the car, which means
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you're going to be like 12th to 15th, like every
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single weekend. And you're going to finish 12th to 15th
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in the chase. And that's that, right? You're like a,
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you know, upper mid pack guy. Or you can be
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uber aggressive and get yourself in the highlights. And Junior
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said he wants to be in the highlight reel. He
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wants to make sure he's in that highlight reel every
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single weekend. And so he doesn't care if he wrecks somebody.
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He doesn't care if he makes a boneheaded move with
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10 to go that he should have waited until two
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to go. Because it looks good on the highlight reel
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and the fans react to it. And so it feels
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to me like his entire philosophy is, I want to
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be popular. I can't do that by winning in the
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car that I'm in. So I'm going to do that
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by making sure that I am grabbing their attention in
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whatever way I can. I don't know if that's sustainable.
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I think it's kind of true. I don't know if
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it's sustainable. And I don't... don't know long-term if that
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works out for him. Is he like, do you think
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he's a guy who's going to be around in 10 years?
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Or do you think that this is like a flash
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in the pan because he's trying to use up his
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15 minutes? Uh, that's a good question.
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Cause I think, I think it's, it's, it can, it
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can go one of two ways and I don't know
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which way we're not at that fork in the road
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just yet because he's still aspire. Yeah. If, If an
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opportunity presents itself to another team, that's the fork in
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the road. Because he can either be a sustainable guy
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who had a checkered past and kind of got over it,
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or he stays the scumbag that he is and loses
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the ride and becomes that guy who's not around in
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a decade. Because, I mean, as of right now, he's
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learning with a new team who wants to make an
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impact in some way, shape, or form because they're a
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marketing company and they like that kind of buzz. but
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if he gets a better deal or if Spire wants
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to be a little bit more, I guess, professional, I
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don't know if that's the right word. I think it is.
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I think you, yeah, I think you're right.
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If they don't want to be as gimmicky, as carny,
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how's that? As carny as they've been. I think that he,
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they need to figure out what he's going to be
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and what his future is going to be. If they
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like this stuff, cool. I don't see Spire being around
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in 10 years though. And if he keeps the hokey
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stuff up, then he's not going to get a ride
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because there's not going to be anybody who wants to
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work with him because they're all going to think he's
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going to wreck cars. Yeah. Or get wrecked. So, I mean,
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the talent's there. It's just a matter of maturing and,
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you know, getting out of the situation where you have
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to be the center of attention. You have to make
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everything wrestling. And while it's good, you know, on the surface,
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and NASCAR likes it because, you know, it's a highlight sport, uh, of,
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of something not as mundane as cars running around the
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track all the time that people push onto it. But
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at the same time, it's just like, again, it's not sustainable.
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Like he's going to have to figure out what he
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wants to do. If he wants to be professional, if he,
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if he wants to go on a 12 step tour
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and make amends with people, uh, because he's going to
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have to do that. If he wants to have any
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kind of sustainability or long-term future in the sport, because
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you know, I, it's not necessarily, I don't think he's
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going to be in here in 10 years. I don't
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think his team's going to be here in 10 years. Um,
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the team's going to cut bait when, when it starts,
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you know, not being profitable for them. I, I agree
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with that.
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And, and, you know, that reminded me of something else
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that Dale junior said, because junior at, at that point,
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it was right after that Bristol race was defending host
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of our, right. He was defending him, his style of racing.
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He was like, he has the ability, he has the
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choice to not lift there. And he wasn't blaming him
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for that. And he was certainly blaming him for defending
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himself when Blaney came up and made the old, you know,
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thought out choice of wanting to talk to him aggressively
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without realizing that if you're going to talk to somebody aggressively,
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they might react to you. Um, but at the same time,
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junior was like, I wouldn't let him drive my cars
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like that because I got to pay for those things.
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And he even said that he had considered putting hosts
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of our, in a junior motor sports car in the
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X series and said to him, I don't know if
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I can do that. You know, I don't know. I
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don't think I can do this because I can't have
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you drive my cars the way that you're driving other
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people's cars. And so he understood, even though he's defending him,
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he still understands that exact point that you were making.
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He can't just keep wrecking cars forever.
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Yeah. I mean, it costs money and, and, you know,
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especially the X cars are a little bit more expensive than, than,
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you know, the, the cup cars. So it's, it's a
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wild dynamic. Like they're going to have, and, and the
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thing is, is that he doesn't seem to be listening
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to outside. He likes, he enjoys, he, That that that
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the aura that it gives him, he enjoys the attention
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rightly or wrongly, but he enjoys the spotlight. And I mean,
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that's cool and all. But at the same time, it's
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not when you many friends, it's not going to win
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you many jobs either. So if your team, if the
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team you're with right now goes south, then, you know,
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where are you going to land now? There's not a
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lot of spots and be there's not a lot of
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owners that are going to be. chomping at the bit
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to get you, regardless of how talented you are, because
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you're wrecking up race cars, or you have the ability
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to have someone wreck you, and that's money down the drain.
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Case in point, when Alex Bowman said he was going
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to retire, Rick Hender can afford anybody he wants, and
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if somebody's under contract, he could probably buy them out
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of their contract. He didn't go out and get Carson Hosovar,
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who's been making headlines. He went out and got the
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very boring right now Connor Zilich instead.
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Yeah, exactly. Because he sees it as a project. It's
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a safe, a safe bet. And you just kind of
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grow it from there. So and I mean, Hosovar is
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even a Chevy driver for Pete's sake. And he just
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went outside, went outside the manufacturer. And get them.
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That's a statement, you know?
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Absolutely. I mean, I mean, I, I, I'm sure they
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didn't try hard to, to get hosts of our, out
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of this contract. I mean, you're just like, Hey, how
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much are you going to? Okay, cool. Later. We'll get
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kind of village then. Yeah.
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You know, can you do so interesting ratings for this one? Uh, Kansas, uh, 1.464
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million on USA, much like the crowd that is down
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from last year. which was $ 1. 6 million, and we're under $ 1. 5 million.
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And this is the thing. All right, so we're getting.
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And this is just me.
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Yeah, this is just me. We're getting to October now
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with baseball, and obviously they're going to get a big
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pop out of the playoffs and the World Series and
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everything like that. NASCAR, the season is just so mind-numbingly
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long that it's literally the only sport I can think
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of where the ratings go down when you get to
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the playoffs.
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Yeah, it's kind of wild, isn't it? Like, it's one
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of those things where as you get to the playoffs,
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people are just like, just let it end. Yeah. Just
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let it all end. ARCA wrapped up their series like
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a week or two ago. Yeah. And they started the
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same weekend NASCAR did. Yeah, exactly. Nothing wrong with that.
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And they had a lot more breaks in the middle, too. Yeah. So,
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I mean, there's no reason for this to drag on
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for nine freaking months. This isn't a pregnancy. Yeah.
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Oh, and by the way, since you mentioned ARCA, shout
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out Haley Deacon back in an ARCA car and won
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a race the other day.
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Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to her. Yeah. I saw, I saw,
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I haven't watched the video yet. I saw the thumbnail
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for it. So yeah, good for her. She's going to have, man, they,
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they did her wrong between both Toyota and Ford. The
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development programs really, really shot her behind putting her on
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teams that really couldn't give two craps about development. They
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just wanted to, that came along with her. It kind
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of set her back a long way.
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And I'll give her credit because, you know, after all
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of that BS, you know, she went and tried the
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IndyCar thing. That didn't work out. She's been trying things.
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And so she was like, hey, if I got to
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go back to ARCA, I'll go back to ARCA. And
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I respect that.
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Yeah. No, absolutely. Start from... And she's young enough, too,
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that it works. Like, she can go back there and
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relearn things. Yeah.
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And go at a schedule that's better... suit it for
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development and not, it's not every weekend, every weekend, every weekend,
476
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you know, you gotta, you got a lot in between and,
477
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you know, kind of, you know, set yourself up for,
478
00:22:11.509 --> 00:22:13.930
for something better. Yeah. And so shout out to her
479
00:22:13.990 --> 00:22:16.309
and hopefully it, hopefully it works out for her. I mean,
480
00:22:16.569 --> 00:22:19.039
in the end, I mean, she's, she's got talent. It's
481
00:22:19.059 --> 00:22:21.079
just a matter of honing that talent and getting, getting
482
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her with the right, the right people involved. And, I mean,
483
00:22:24.430 --> 00:22:27.589
she just turned 25. Yeah, I was just.
484
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Looking that up right now. I was like, how old
485
00:22:28.950 --> 00:22:30.829
is she? She can't be that old. And yeah, 25,
486
00:22:30.809 --> 00:22:32.190
there's still plenty of time.
487
00:22:33.170 --> 00:22:35.079
It's crazy that she's 25 and she's kind of been
488
00:22:35.099 --> 00:22:40.259
in the NASCAR zeitgeist for, God, close to seven years now, six,
489
00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:43.160
seven years. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Crazy.
490
00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:46.339
I do not know if this was a good race.
491
00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:48.019
Do you know if it was.
492
00:22:47.769 --> 00:22:50.769
A good race? No, I have 17,809 people who told
493
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me whether or not it's a good race or not.
494
00:22:53.980 --> 00:22:57.289
Okay, so, I mean, being perfectly honest, this was not
495
00:22:57.309 --> 00:23:00.130
a great race. So I would give it, like, I mean,
496
00:23:00.529 --> 00:23:03.509
Kyle Larson dominated, and that was fun to watch somebody dominate. Like,
497
00:23:03.650 --> 00:23:08.349
if somebody's that good, then that makes it semi-entertaining. But
498
00:23:08.390 --> 00:23:10.470
does it make it a compelling race? No, not so much.
499
00:23:10.509 --> 00:23:12.640
So I would say, I would give it, like, a
500
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50 or so. I think that there are a lot
501
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:16.759
of Kyle Larson fans out there, and so I think
502
00:23:16.779 --> 00:23:19.000
they gave it, like, about a 68 or 70. Should
503
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.119
have went with your number, 49.5%.
504
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Wow. And it was a good race. Wow.
505
00:23:25.049 --> 00:23:27.089
I'm glad that people agree with me on that one.
506
00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:30.970
Yeah. I mean, you got, you got the plot down, baby. Yeah. Um,
507
00:23:31.390 --> 00:23:34.849
let me see where that ranks with the other Kansas race. Uh,
508
00:23:34.930 --> 00:23:37.529
they ran there earlier this year, right? Yeah. Or did
509
00:23:37.549 --> 00:23:38.049
they not?
510
00:23:38.089 --> 00:23:39.470
Kansas usually good.
511
00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:44.180
Kind of good. Um, where was this breakdown? Come on,
512
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.220
come on, Gluckster. Where's your breakdown? 21st of 22 races
513
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:53.720
in Kansas, 10 of 10 at next gen races at Kansas. Oh, Uh,
514
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.059
seven of the first eight next gen Kansas race, uh,
515
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.500
races at Kansas were above 80%. The last four have
516
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.500
been below 59. That is an interesting trend. The spring
517
00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:08.140
race this year was 50.8, almost identical. Wow.
518
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.039
That is a very interesting trend because, you know, there
519
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.880
were some really good Kansas races and it leaves you
520
00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.670
with this impression that every race at Kansas is good.
521
00:24:18.690 --> 00:24:21.009
So that's a wild trend that the last four have
522
00:24:21.029 --> 00:24:24.849
been bad. And an example of the exact opposite of
523
00:24:24.890 --> 00:24:29.549
that is Auto Club Speedway slash California Speedway slash not
524
00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:31.170
existing anymore Speedway.
525
00:24:31.730 --> 00:24:32.509
Amazon Warehouse.
526
00:24:32.670 --> 00:24:37.299
Yeah, exactly. Amazon Warehouse. Because it had a stretch of
527
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.980
bad races. And so then it was the same thing,
528
00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:42.599
but the opposite side of that coin. It got this
529
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.940
reputation of always being terrible, even when late in its career,
530
00:24:48.109 --> 00:24:50.390
there were some really good Auto Club races.
531
00:24:51.250 --> 00:24:53.490
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, for a while there, it was
532
00:24:53.509 --> 00:24:55.789
like looking up. It's like, hey, look at this. Yeah.
533
00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:56.769
How about that?
534
00:24:57.509 --> 00:25:00.509
And not just in Cup, but I was going out
535
00:25:00.529 --> 00:25:02.450
there when they were doing Cup and IndyCar races at
536
00:25:02.490 --> 00:25:04.720
the very end before they shut it down. And both,
537
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:08.440
both series were producing really good racing. Yeah.
538
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.180
I mean, it was good. And then, man, just a
539
00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:14.420
couple of tweaks and then it just drops off. Yeah.
540
00:25:14.619 --> 00:25:19.490
And it's that quick. Yeah. Which I guess good. I mean,
541
00:25:19.509 --> 00:25:22.759
the tweaks work in some way, but. Still, it's kind
542
00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:25.599
of wild that you go from a track that was
543
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:28.839
super good and a lot above 80 percent. And now
544
00:25:29.539 --> 00:25:31.000
just people could go either way on them.
545
00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:36.619
So they're very interesting. All right. So because Kyle Larson
546
00:25:36.660 --> 00:25:39.599
has won two of the first four races in the chase,
547
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:43.910
not a big shocker that he is still our leader
548
00:25:43.950 --> 00:25:48.869
in the championship after last weekend. So Kyle Larson is
549
00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:51.730
the leader. Denny Hamlin still hanging in there at 26
550
00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:54.490
points out, very much in the race. And he's not
551
00:25:54.529 --> 00:25:58.750
been bad. He just hasn't been dominant like he was
552
00:25:58.809 --> 00:26:03.980
earlier in the season, you know? Christopher Bell is 50
553
00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:07.240
back in third. Then guys start to get a little distant.
554
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.019
Winner Joey Logano from a couple of weeks ago. He
555
00:26:10.140 --> 00:26:12.180
is 67 back and forth. Then we get a big
556
00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:15.140
jump down to Blaney, who was not done any favors
557
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.829
by that host of our incident at Bristol. He's now
558
00:26:17.829 --> 00:26:23.109
91 back. Todd Gibbs, 94 back. Then everybody else after that,
559
00:26:23.910 --> 00:26:27.710
over 100 points out. You got Redick and Briscoe within 125.
560
00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:33.490
Then within 150, Bubba Wallace, Austin Sindrick, Carson Josevar down
561
00:26:33.509 --> 00:26:39.400
at 150. Then outside of 150 points, William Byron, Chase
562
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:44.380
Elliott is 161 back. Ryan Preece, Chris Buescher, and then
563
00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:48.819
Daniel Suarez, uh, Buescher and Suarez are 186 and 187
564
00:26:48.819 --> 00:26:52.220
back respectively. And we're about to hit the halfway point
565
00:26:52.539 --> 00:26:53.309
of the chase.
566
00:26:55.089 --> 00:26:57.089
Kind of wild. Yeah. You blink and you miss it.
567
00:26:57.349 --> 00:26:57.630
Yeah.
568
00:26:58.589 --> 00:27:02.099
Um, But yeah, I mean, you look at these standings
569
00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:12.250
and I start to wonder if, you know, doing the breakdown,
570
00:27:12.430 --> 00:27:17.809
is the new standings, the new chase better or worse? Yeah.
571
00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:22.750
Especially with how much it's gapping. Yeah. You know, but again,
572
00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:24.970
I think it's better than eliminations.
573
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.779
It is because you don't get the shenanigans.
574
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:30.559
Well, yeah, you don't get shenanigans, but I think it's
575
00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:35.299
better than winner in situation. I think if you did eliminations,
576
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.940
but it's not based on a win, it's actually based
577
00:27:37.980 --> 00:27:40.549
on kind of points, then maybe we can hybrid that out.
578
00:27:40.630 --> 00:27:45.869
But overall, I like it. I think that it's good.
579
00:27:46.230 --> 00:27:48.410
I almost want to see Larson wrap it up before
580
00:27:48.430 --> 00:27:51.490
the last weekend or whoever. I would love to see that.
581
00:27:51.809 --> 00:27:54.630
I would love to see that just because this is
582
00:27:54.690 --> 00:27:57.579
what just the reaction, because this is the kind of
583
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.940
thing people want. People wanted a straight through thing. And we've,
584
00:28:00.380 --> 00:28:02.079
you know, back in the old Winston cup days, you
585
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.440
had guys like Dale, uh, Dale senior and Terry Labonte
586
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.180
wrap it up before the last race. And I'm just
587
00:28:07.269 --> 00:28:10.089
inconsequential after that. I would love to see the reaction
588
00:28:10.109 --> 00:28:13.049
to the people now, uh, who said who are clamoring
589
00:28:13.109 --> 00:28:14.650
so much for a better point system. And then they
590
00:28:14.690 --> 00:28:16.089
get a better point system that was back in the
591
00:28:16.150 --> 00:28:18.849
day and they get angry about it. Yeah. Uh, shouting Freud,
592
00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:22.630
I think is, uh, is my idea. I want the chaos.
593
00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:25.170
I want people to be upset. Uh, over things that
594
00:28:25.190 --> 00:28:26.190
they wanted in the first place.
595
00:28:26.410 --> 00:28:28.150
Well, you know, when you look at it, you've got
596
00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:30.829
Chase Briscoe who has won a race and he's down
597
00:28:30.890 --> 00:28:35.289
in eighth, but the way things are going, save for
598
00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:37.490
the idea that Ryan Blaney, I think could turn it
599
00:28:37.569 --> 00:28:39.369
around at any time. I mean, he was really, he's
600
00:28:39.410 --> 00:28:41.410
only 91 points back because of Bristol.
601
00:28:41.710 --> 00:28:41.910
Right.
602
00:28:41.930 --> 00:28:48.490
And then actually that's another thing I didn't mention about the, uh,
603
00:28:48.569 --> 00:28:51.950
about the Blaney Briscoe thing. I think, since we're on
604
00:28:51.970 --> 00:28:54.970
the topic of the chase as opposed to eliminations, I
605
00:28:54.990 --> 00:28:57.750
think one of the side, I don't know if you
606
00:28:57.769 --> 00:28:59.710
want to call it the benefit, but the side effects
607
00:29:00.529 --> 00:29:03.549
of doing the format like this is that all of
608
00:29:03.589 --> 00:29:07.910
a sudden those early races become way more important. You know,
609
00:29:08.089 --> 00:29:11.660
I don't think that if that incident between the 77
610
00:29:11.660 --> 00:29:15.990
and the 12 happens at Bristol last year, I don't
611
00:29:16.009 --> 00:29:17.769
think that you have the aftermath that you have. I
612
00:29:17.789 --> 00:29:20.319
don't think that Blaney goes up and, you know, tries to,
613
00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:24.079
you know, act all tough and get swung on. Because
614
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.180
Blaney would be guaranteed, essentially, a spot in the round
615
00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:33.509
of 12. And so it didn't... That incident wouldn't necessarily
616
00:29:33.730 --> 00:29:37.349
wreck his championship. But we can see right now, I mean,
617
00:29:37.390 --> 00:29:39.190
he was like up in second or third or whatever.
618
00:29:39.210 --> 00:29:39.970
Yeah.
619
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.380
The championship. Now he's down in fifth and he's 91
620
00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:48.440
points out, mostly because of that incident. And I think
621
00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:50.309
that's why we saw him react the way that he did.
622
00:29:50.329 --> 00:29:54.710
And I think he can turn it around and get
623
00:29:54.769 --> 00:29:58.019
himself back in there. But if he doesn't, we're already
624
00:29:58.099 --> 00:30:00.599
starting to see like a clear gap between the top
625
00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:04.109
four and everybody else. We could very well end up
626
00:30:04.150 --> 00:30:05.710
with a championship for one way or the other.
627
00:30:06.789 --> 00:30:08.849
Hey man. And so be it, but we got there
628
00:30:08.869 --> 00:30:11.089
in a different way. Yeah. Uh, so maybe people will
629
00:30:11.109 --> 00:30:12.910
accept that a little bit more, but also kind of
630
00:30:12.930 --> 00:30:15.609
shows of, you know, the four guys who were dominant
631
00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:19.660
all year continue to be dominant. Yeah. Well, but it
632
00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:22.819
also leads to the fact of how the hell Tyler
633
00:30:22.859 --> 00:30:23.740
Reddick got so bad.
634
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.119
No, it's crazy, dude.
635
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.599
Isn't it? that like Gluck or Bianchi or Pacquiao, they
636
00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:34.220
have to study that because that is a wild situation
637
00:30:34.269 --> 00:30:36.650
if they haven't started doing it already because there's a
638
00:30:36.690 --> 00:30:38.529
story to tell there. And I don't know what it
639
00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:40.549
is or how to get there, but there's a story
640
00:30:40.589 --> 00:30:43.470
to tell that would be fascinating and a nice little
641
00:30:43.829 --> 00:30:47.190
kind of a roadmap to people how not to do
642
00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:49.930
things when you're out in front so early in the
643
00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:50.710
season like that.
644
00:30:50.950 --> 00:30:53.220
Yeah, because you can write off or you can explain
645
00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.190
away Kyle Larson winning two out of the last three
646
00:30:57.210 --> 00:30:59.869
and Joey Logano in between and Chevy and Ford getting
647
00:30:59.950 --> 00:31:02.950
back into things by saying, oh, well, you know, Toyota
648
00:31:02.990 --> 00:31:07.130
had figured something out with the splitter and then NASCAR
649
00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:08.970
took it away from them and that's why things are
650
00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:11.819
a little bit more even now, why there's more parity.
651
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.119
That does not explain Tyler Reddick at all because his
652
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.599
fall from grace came way earlier in the season than
653
00:31:19.700 --> 00:31:21.059
any kind of tweaking of the rules.
654
00:31:22.900 --> 00:31:26.940
So, You want to talk about point system. Okay. So
655
00:31:27.140 --> 00:31:30.700
if we run in the old Winston Cup series, which
656
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.880
shout out to the NASCAR Winston Cup standings on Twitter,
657
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.410
Denny Hamlin after 30 races would be at the top
658
00:31:43.049 --> 00:31:44.990
plus 390. What?
659
00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:46.410
Yep.
660
00:31:46.430 --> 00:31:53.980
Plus 390 is Ty Gibbs. Ryan Blaney would be minus 399.
661
00:31:53.980 --> 00:31:57.099
Tyler Reddick, minus 408. Chris Bell, minus 495. And that's
662
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:58.099
the top. Wow.
663
00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:59.440
That's crazy.
664
00:32:00.019 --> 00:32:00.259
Yeah.
665
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.180
I mean, that's domination right there.
666
00:32:02.769 --> 00:32:06.970
Yeah. Four wins, four polls, four top 15s, 20 top
667
00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:09.910
10s for Hamlin this year. The only guy who has
668
00:32:09.950 --> 00:32:11.529
an average finish of top 10.
669
00:32:11.529 --> 00:32:12.289
That's crazy.
670
00:32:13.029 --> 00:32:16.599
And shout out to the Winston Cup thing. They do
671
00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:19.519
a standings board after the race, like the old school
672
00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:23.319
TNT with the little bubble graphics. Yeah. And stuff like that.
673
00:32:23.390 --> 00:32:25.799
So that's really cool. They do something like that. And
674
00:32:25.900 --> 00:32:27.920
old footage of the racetrack that they just raced at.
675
00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:32.539
So it's NWCS underscore standings on Twitter. That's wild. Should
676
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.259
you want to go there. That's wild.
677
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.700
I can't believe that Denny will be up by 400
678
00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:37.539
points almost.
679
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is kind of crazy. And then
680
00:32:40.700 --> 00:32:43.640
for the truck graphics, they use the speed graphics. Nice.
681
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.960
I dig that. That's nice. Shout out to them.
682
00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:49.700
Yeah, totally dig that. All right, let's dive into some
683
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:50.500
NASCAR news here.
684
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:52.440
Yeah, a lot of news.
685
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.569
Because there was something large that was announced.
686
00:32:57.269 --> 00:32:59.930
Which I still am kind of forming an opinion as
687
00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:01.630
we even getting to this topic.
688
00:33:01.670 --> 00:33:03.819
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what to make of it.
689
00:33:04.509 --> 00:33:08.759
So bombshell, in the middle of the week, Brad Keselowski
690
00:33:08.930 --> 00:33:13.960
announces that he will not be returning to RFK Racing
691
00:33:14.019 --> 00:33:16.059
next year. And you're like, wait a minute. Isn't the
692
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.859
KNR Racing... His name? Yeah, it is. Which means that
693
00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:25.619
he is almost certainly going to be selling his ownership
694
00:33:25.660 --> 00:33:29.579
interest in the team as well. And if you're wondering why, well,
695
00:33:30.180 --> 00:33:33.180
a lot of people are wondering why. Jordan Bianchi on
696
00:33:33.259 --> 00:33:38.039
Twitter said that his sources are telling him that there
697
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.960
was a disagreement between him and the Femway group about
698
00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:45.259
the leadership and the direction of the team going forward.
699
00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:48.910
But further than that, a couple of weeks back in
700
00:33:48.930 --> 00:33:50.829
that race that I think was the race that Joey
701
00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:53.829
Logano won. It may not have been a race that
702
00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:56.789
Joey Logano won, but there was, I think actually it
703
00:33:56.809 --> 00:34:00.630
was a gateway. It wasn't at Bristol. So a gateway
704
00:34:00.670 --> 00:34:04.420
where Kyle Larson won. At one point, Brad Keselowski was
705
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.300
leading the race. And then Joey Logano went streaming past
706
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.639
him on the inside, either in the turn two or four.
707
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:12.039
I can't remember which one it was, but it was
708
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.389
going into one of the series of turns. And Brad
709
00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:19.920
went on a rant on his radio about how Ford
710
00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:24.019
was giving Penske all the good engines and they were
711
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.239
getting the crap engines. And if he got an engine
712
00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:30.769
equivalent to what Joey Logano was getting, he'd be leading
713
00:34:30.809 --> 00:34:33.730
in winning races left and right too, because he felt
714
00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:35.289
like he got past, like he was standing still. And
715
00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:37.409
if you watch a replay, he kind of did get past,
716
00:34:37.429 --> 00:34:40.469
like he was standing still. And so I think there was, like,
717
00:34:40.510 --> 00:34:44.070
a little bit of animosity to begin with. Like, Keselowski thought, oh,
718
00:34:44.110 --> 00:34:47.150
you guys aren't treating us very well. And then maybe
719
00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:49.400
he went to Roush Fenway and was like, we need
720
00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:51.800
to stand up for– stick up for ourselves. And Fenway
721
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.880
was like, oh, you know, they're giving us the support
722
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.860
that we want. We're making money, so what do we care?
723
00:34:56.500 --> 00:34:57.719
And then Brad was like, well, I still want to
724
00:34:57.739 --> 00:34:59.239
win races. I'm out of here type of thing.
725
00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:04.269
Yeah. I mean, I think it's also just even– yeah,
726
00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:05.710
one of those things where it's just like, why aren't
727
00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:09.670
we leaving manufacturers? Like, we should– We should want to win, right?
728
00:35:09.889 --> 00:35:13.070
We should want to go ahead and get things going. But,
729
00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:19.429
I mean, it's also... You talk about Fenway making money.
730
00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:22.289
Fenway's selling off a lot of stuff, too. Are they? Yeah,
731
00:35:22.309 --> 00:35:24.429
they sold off the Penguins. Oh, wow.
732
00:35:24.469 --> 00:35:25.090
I didn't know that.
733
00:35:25.969 --> 00:35:29.110
Yeah, they had other stuff. They're looking for just maybe
734
00:35:29.139 --> 00:35:31.780
to get out of things here and there. Maybe one
735
00:35:31.820 --> 00:35:34.380
of those deals, maybe it's just now they're looking to
736
00:35:34.420 --> 00:35:37.519
get out of racing. I don't know. I think it's also...
737
00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:44.550
The blind faith that Jack Roush has with Ford or
738
00:35:44.570 --> 00:35:50.210
the loyalty they have. Yeah. Because, I mean, he's not
739
00:35:50.230 --> 00:35:54.010
going to leave Ford after, Christ, what, 45, almost 50 years?
740
00:35:54.030 --> 00:35:55.030
Yeah, you're right about that.
741
00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:59.210
So, I mean, for Brad, you would think that he
742
00:35:59.230 --> 00:36:00.929
would have, because everyone's just like, oh, he's going to
743
00:36:00.949 --> 00:36:03.099
take over for Jack. I haven't seen Jack Roush in
744
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.539
probably like five years. Yeah. For being honest.
745
00:36:05.780 --> 00:36:05.940
Yeah.
746
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.340
Uh, so, I mean, you would think that they, he
747
00:36:08.380 --> 00:36:10.679
would have like Brad's voice would be a little bit
748
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.800
louder even in spite of all this, but I guess not.
749
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.039
And I mean, he has to do, if he feels
750
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.139
he has like a good couple of years left, um,
751
00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:21.210
I can understand why he wants to get out of there,
752
00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.630
especially if there's other places that are going to, you know,
753
00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:29.389
be more receptive and welcoming and, you know, give, you know,
754
00:36:29.530 --> 00:36:32.050
get a little things here and there that, you know,
755
00:36:32.429 --> 00:36:35.380
get them a little bit of boost. Uh, kind of
756
00:36:35.539 --> 00:36:37.800
odd that they drop it yeah this this close to
757
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.619
the end of the season yeah yeah and yeah and
758
00:36:41.659 --> 00:36:44.519
i mean i think it also puts it puts like
759
00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:49.070
chris pusher and and uh you know yeah ryan priest
760
00:36:49.110 --> 00:36:51.949
in bad situations too because like well i mean it's
761
00:36:51.989 --> 00:36:54.469
cool now that ryan priest now has a charter but
762
00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:58.329
man they lose a lot of you know you know
763
00:36:58.469 --> 00:37:01.070
they lose a guy and a mentor who gave them
764
00:37:01.170 --> 00:37:04.409
so much and and made the cars being able to
765
00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:07.679
get up there where they are. It's a tough situation
766
00:37:07.699 --> 00:37:09.400
because what's this team going to look like now that
767
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.800
he's gone? It almost seems like it's going to be
768
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.199
a shell of its former self again.
769
00:37:14.300 --> 00:37:18.179
And the weird part about that is that Kez has
770
00:37:18.429 --> 00:37:22.389
always kind of been a cheerleader for both Buescher and Preece.
771
00:37:23.289 --> 00:37:26.070
And so that makes it doubly odd that he's bailing
772
00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:27.010
on the team like this.
773
00:37:28.170 --> 00:37:30.570
Yeah. I mean, it, it just seems unless there's like
774
00:37:30.650 --> 00:37:33.449
something deeper that he knows what's going to happen or,
775
00:37:34.070 --> 00:37:35.309
I mean, he's going to have a little bit more
776
00:37:35.349 --> 00:37:37.489
inside knowledge than anybody else. But at the same time,
777
00:37:37.510 --> 00:37:39.989
it's like, man, why, you know, drop it like this
778
00:37:40.010 --> 00:37:42.920
when there's literally aside from like that rage on the radio, which,
779
00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:44.539
you know, who the hell knows if that's just the
780
00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:48.480
heat of the moment kind of thing. Um, you know, like,
781
00:37:49.139 --> 00:37:51.480
like how that all just came out of nowhere. It's
782
00:37:51.500 --> 00:37:55.119
just like, Oh, okay. Now this is happening. But I mean,
783
00:37:55.300 --> 00:37:57.079
I don't know. We will see how it goes because I, I'm,
784
00:37:57.849 --> 00:38:00.829
I'm less concerned about Kieslowski because, you know, he's going to,
785
00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:03.510
he'll find a spot. Someone will give him a spot,
786
00:38:03.570 --> 00:38:07.829
but I'm more concerned about Roush turning into Yates again.
787
00:38:07.849 --> 00:38:12.090
I mean, for a long time there, the Roush team
788
00:38:12.210 --> 00:38:14.429
didn't know where they were coming or going. I mean,
789
00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:17.570
God bless Ricky Stenhouse trying to carry that team throughout,
790
00:38:17.630 --> 00:38:20.429
but that wasn't happening. And then, you know, you lose
791
00:38:20.449 --> 00:38:23.309
all your prospects and, you know, Greg Biffle stuck around
792
00:38:23.329 --> 00:38:25.360
for as long as he could before they, you know,
793
00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:29.139
shutter or shuttered everything, a lot of it down. Um,
794
00:38:29.940 --> 00:38:32.780
but yeah, the Roush racing that we knew 25 years ago,
795
00:38:33.340 --> 00:38:35.420
not even close to what it is now. And I
796
00:38:35.460 --> 00:38:38.519
worry about that now that he, now that Keselowski is
797
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.980
gone and not only the financial, but the technical support gone,
798
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.639
what that, what that's going to become because of Fenway
799
00:38:44.659 --> 00:38:47.159
is looking to get out of other sports entities. You
800
00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:48.860
got to figure they're trying to get out of NASCAR
801
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.900
and that's going to leave Jack Roush and, and, and,
802
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.119
you know, his family and whoever else is backing him
803
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.909
business wise in a, in a very big chasm should
804
00:38:57.949 --> 00:39:00.909
everything go to hell really quickly. And it almost seems
805
00:39:00.929 --> 00:39:02.510
like it's trending that way. Yeah.
806
00:39:02.590 --> 00:39:06.219
I mean, unless Fenway is dedicated to keeping the team alive,
807
00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:09.679
then yeah, there's going to be a problem sooner rather
808
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.760
than later because Kez was going to be the next
809
00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:13.159
generation for sure.
810
00:39:13.179 --> 00:39:14.079
Yeah.
811
00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:17.019
And now he says that despite the fact that I
812
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.599
think he's 42 years old right now, that he still
813
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:21.280
wants to race for a couple of years. Now, Denny
814
00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:23.349
Hamlin has shown us that you can be older than
815
00:39:23.389 --> 00:39:27.150
that and still be very, very competitive. But where does
816
00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:29.429
he go? It's so late in the year and all
817
00:39:29.449 --> 00:39:32.349
of the big seats have been filled. There were all
818
00:39:32.469 --> 00:39:37.519
kinds of rumors online that because of Kellig's involvement with
819
00:39:38.099 --> 00:39:42.880
Dodge in the truck series, that that was exactly what
820
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.719
was going to happen, that Kez was going to take
821
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.579
his ownership stake. He was going to buy into Calig
822
00:39:48.619 --> 00:39:50.179
and then they were going to go to Dodge maybe
823
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.929
as soon as next year, even though I think that's
824
00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:55.150
probably a bit unfeasible at this point for Dodge to
825
00:39:55.170 --> 00:39:58.889
be racing next year. But the weird part about that
826
00:39:59.389 --> 00:40:01.869
is that Calig, one of the owners of Calig, not
827
00:40:02.329 --> 00:40:05.380
Bob Calig, but the other guy, I don't know his name,
828
00:40:05.619 --> 00:40:09.320
came out heading into this weekend and was like, hey,
829
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.440
we haven't had any talks with Brad about driving for them.
830
00:40:12.739 --> 00:40:14.900
And they aren't even sure where those rumors came from,
831
00:40:14.940 --> 00:40:17.309
although it's pretty obvious where those rumors came from. they
832
00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:20.809
have a deep association now with Dodge and Brad Kieslowski
833
00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:23.780
was their last champion, Dodge's last champion. So if they
834
00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:25.139
were going to come back to cup, they probably would
835
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.579
be interested in having Kieslowski be part of it. But
836
00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:30.880
at the same time, when asked about Ty Dillon for
837
00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:34.219
next year in the 10 car, they were on committal
838
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.019
and they were like, Oh yeah, we love time. We're
839
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.659
like working on, is it Ty Dillon? I can't remember.
840
00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:39.199
Yeah.
841
00:40:39.579 --> 00:40:41.119
They were like, Oh, we love him. And you know,
842
00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:42.880
we're working on something, but we don't have anything yet.
843
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.780
We're not really quite sure what's happening there. That to
844
00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:48.719
me was code for, Yeah, we're not telling you yet,
845
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:51.159
but that's exactly what we're doing is going with Brad Keselowski.
846
00:40:52.489 --> 00:40:55.469
It's code for I don't think that Richard Childress is
847
00:40:55.489 --> 00:40:57.269
going to buck up much money for us next year.
848
00:40:57.550 --> 00:41:02.269
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know? Because what other options
849
00:41:02.309 --> 00:41:05.050
does Kes have? And I don't think, this is just me,
850
00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:07.789
but I don't think that Brad would make this move
851
00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:12.769
without knowing he had something realistic on the horizon.
852
00:41:13.670 --> 00:41:16.469
Yeah, no, he doesn't. Absolutely not. Like, he's smart enough.
853
00:41:16.510 --> 00:41:18.760
He's not going to make anything Yeah. You know, too,
854
00:41:19.059 --> 00:41:23.199
too crazy. Yeah. Um, but again, I don't know to
855
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.570
what end you have all this stuff, you know, going forward. Like,
856
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.630
like Cali has done well on their own. Do they
857
00:41:32.650 --> 00:41:34.989
need Brad Kozlowski in there to kind of shake up the,
858
00:41:35.389 --> 00:41:38.289
the dynamic that they've had? And maybe it is because
859
00:41:38.349 --> 00:41:41.210
maybe it's something Dodge is like, yeah, we need someone
860
00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:43.829
like him in our cars to, to give us some
861
00:41:44.130 --> 00:41:46.800
sort of credibility. Um, It's almost like Dale Jarrett when
862
00:41:46.820 --> 00:41:49.639
Toyota came in, like to have him in a car,
863
00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:52.360
I'll be it for half a year. You still get
864
00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:55.960
a little credibility for that. I think, you know, with the,
865
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.659
and I think the thing that makes it more feasible
866
00:41:59.340 --> 00:42:02.619
on this is the fact that Cali has gone on
867
00:42:02.659 --> 00:42:05.400
such a downturn. Yeah. I mean, a few years back,
868
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.679
we wouldn't have had this discussion because they're, you know,
869
00:42:07.699 --> 00:42:09.460
they were looking pretty nice. They were looking all right.
870
00:42:09.940 --> 00:42:13.079
Not great, but not terrible. But they've been pretty brutal
871
00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:15.650
and just out of, out of the discussion. uh, for
872
00:42:15.670 --> 00:42:18.969
a while now. So you bring Kazan and maybe, you know,
873
00:42:19.090 --> 00:42:20.769
get a shot in the arm like he did for Roush.
874
00:42:20.809 --> 00:42:24.090
I mean, two years in, like immediately you see a
875
00:42:24.110 --> 00:42:26.190
turn first year and you see a turnaround for Roush
876
00:42:26.230 --> 00:42:29.050
racing and what they are. You, you put him into
877
00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:32.230
a situation with Calig. You think about the, that there's
878
00:42:32.250 --> 00:42:34.050
not going to be a turnaround there. You, you're lying
879
00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:37.110
to yourself on that. So I think it, they might
880
00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:39.090
have to be on the hush hush because of the
881
00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:41.949
fact that the Keselowski buyout of the ownership isn't announced yet.
882
00:42:43.260 --> 00:42:45.880
you can't because then you can they can cite contract
883
00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:47.699
tampering and then we're in a situation like we are
884
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.480
with Gibbs and Spire God we don't need another one
885
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.619
of those Jesus Christ but maybe that's the reason why
886
00:42:55.659 --> 00:42:57.570
they're kind of being hush hush and coy about the
887
00:42:57.610 --> 00:43:00.670
situation but it only makes sense for them to be
888
00:43:01.230 --> 00:43:05.170
you know all put put the back up the Brinks
889
00:43:05.210 --> 00:43:07.909
truck to Kez to get the money in there and
890
00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:10.030
give him some money so they can do a nice
891
00:43:10.050 --> 00:43:12.880
little thing and have a big dodge return with the
892
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.760
last dodge champion that would be that a very fitting
893
00:43:15.860 --> 00:43:19.090
return for dodge to get kazlowski back and kazlowski who's
894
00:43:19.110 --> 00:43:21.530
still running good i mean not in the playoff but
895
00:43:21.570 --> 00:43:24.010
he's not it's not like he's dragging like jimmy johnson
896
00:43:24.050 --> 00:43:28.369
did right he's actually competitive so it's it's a situation
897
00:43:28.429 --> 00:43:30.679
where now you just you got to put everything together
898
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.119
and and maybe this is a.
899
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.079
Good new chapter for kazlowski overall yeah um and the
900
00:43:36.139 --> 00:43:39.409
only other option that i could even think of would
901
00:43:39.429 --> 00:43:41.889
be like buying out of Rick Ware Racing because I
902
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:45.050
think that that whole thing with TJ Pusher just kind
903
00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:47.860
of stalled out for whatever reason with the whole lawsuit
904
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.179
with Legacy and everything. But, I mean, I just don't
905
00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:55.280
see that as nearly as viable as the whole Kallax situation.
906
00:43:55.420 --> 00:43:55.900
So I agree.
907
00:43:55.940 --> 00:43:58.440
They just haven't announced it for a particular reason yet.
908
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:00.969
Kez is good. He's not a miracle worker. Like, he
909
00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:04.989
couldn't do it. Dale Senior himself probably couldn't do much
910
00:44:05.010 --> 00:44:07.889
with that Rick Ware Racing operation they got going on there.
911
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.539
Yeah, no, for sure. So I think that it's only
912
00:44:11.579 --> 00:44:13.679
a matter of time before we find out that they
913
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.940
were just hedging a little bit at Cali, and that's
914
00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:19.260
exactly what's going to happen. Because otherwise, why would, even
915
00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:21.860
if he was mad, why would Kez do this now?
916
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.869
Why wouldn't he just wait until the beginning of next season, say, oh,
917
00:44:24.900 --> 00:44:26.079
I'm out at the end of the year, and then
918
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.760
use that year to find somebody, you know? In the beginning.
919
00:44:29.610 --> 00:44:30.670
And make it happen.
920
00:44:30.690 --> 00:44:37.989
So, um, so, uh, Talladega is coming up. Um, and
921
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:41.369
there's going to be a, another roll package change for
922
00:44:41.389 --> 00:44:43.449
that race. If you remember the Daytona night race, they
923
00:44:43.489 --> 00:44:46.380
reduced the length of the spoiler from seven inches down
924
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.780
to four inches. Along with that, they reduced the horsepower
925
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.679
from five, 10 to 465. The idea there being, they
926
00:44:51.699 --> 00:44:53.780
want to reduce drag, help guys move up and back
927
00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:56.750
through the field. Denny Hamlin coming into that race was like, oh,
928
00:44:56.750 --> 00:44:58.409
I think it might be wild. And it was just
929
00:44:58.469 --> 00:45:02.090
another normal Daytona race. It was a little bit more
930
00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:05.500
exciting than the first one in the 500 was. So
931
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.579
NASCAR is like, all right, we'll try it again. They're
932
00:45:08.619 --> 00:45:12.239
leaving the horsepower at 465. So lower horsepower package. But
933
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:17.380
they're lowering the spoiler another half inch down to 3.5 inches.
934
00:45:18.139 --> 00:45:19.900
We'll see if that makes a difference.
935
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.219
Well, I mean, 3.5 inches, a lot of people are
936
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:24.980
saying that might be even still too much.
937
00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:26.539
Really?
938
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:34.090
They say 3.5 is well above average in most situations.
939
00:45:34.150 --> 00:45:36.789
So some people are too much. So we'll have to
940
00:45:36.829 --> 00:45:40.309
see how it all comes down. Because that 7 inches
941
00:45:40.329 --> 00:45:43.130
is unrealistic. Like in any category, you know. I mean,
942
00:45:43.389 --> 00:45:44.320
come on, right? Come on.
943
00:45:46.190 --> 00:45:48.690
Oh man. So maybe we'll see some more action. Maybe
944
00:45:48.710 --> 00:45:50.250
there'll be some more action because of it.
945
00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:51.369
Oh yeah. Let's go.
946
00:45:52.269 --> 00:45:53.070
Maybe there won't be.
947
00:45:53.090 --> 00:45:57.110
Maybe there won't. Maybe it's just a normal boring situation,
948
00:45:57.130 --> 00:45:59.670
but Hey, it's, it's not so much the racing as
949
00:45:59.690 --> 00:46:00.889
it is the motion on the track.
950
00:46:01.550 --> 00:46:02.199
Exactly.
951
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:04.659
Oh man. All right.
952
00:46:04.699 --> 00:46:06.059
So you can tune out for this and I'm going
953
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.840
to keep it super short by the way, because there
954
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.739
is more in the JGR Chris Gabe heart case. Um,
955
00:46:14.329 --> 00:46:18.309
Here is the short, short version. They're having more hearings
956
00:46:18.889 --> 00:46:22.050
about moving, like having a quick trial or something like that.
957
00:46:23.010 --> 00:46:24.889
JGR in the arguments to say we need to have
958
00:46:24.909 --> 00:46:28.519
the trial right now, right away. They are accusing Chris
959
00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:33.880
Gabehart of still being in possession of and using JGR
960
00:46:34.340 --> 00:46:37.840
proprietary data. However, they have yet to submit any proof
961
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.019
of what data he's using and how they're using it. Uh,
962
00:46:42.260 --> 00:46:45.480
in return, Gabe Hart and Spire, both of their lawyers
963
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.219
are trying to force JGR to turn over their, uh,
964
00:46:50.940 --> 00:46:54.519
charter or franchise agreement with Toyota. Uh, so they can
965
00:46:54.539 --> 00:46:56.920
make some sort of legal argument based on it. Uh,
966
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.960
really what they're doing is they're saying, oh, there's some
967
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.090
good information in there that we say that we can use,
968
00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:05.869
but we really just want to expose that document to
969
00:47:05.889 --> 00:47:12.199
the That is otherwise known as the 2311 strategy of
970
00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:16.329
getting a lawsuit dismissed or, sorry, getting a settlement. And
971
00:47:16.349 --> 00:47:19.849
then JGR, in turn, is asking Spire to turn over
972
00:47:20.369 --> 00:47:22.650
all of their car setup information because they want to
973
00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:25.909
prove that it's identical to the Toyotas when really it's
974
00:47:25.949 --> 00:47:30.699
the same thing. They're just trying to make Spire release
975
00:47:30.739 --> 00:47:33.900
things that they don't want to release. So it really
976
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:35.739
still screams of teenage breakup.
977
00:47:37.090 --> 00:47:38.730
You know, when we could add a quick trial, like
978
00:47:38.809 --> 00:47:39.530
six months ago.
979
00:47:39.789 --> 00:47:40.510
Yeah, exactly.
980
00:47:42.130 --> 00:47:46.769
We're on, we're on month nine of a two month trial. Yeah. Yeah,
981
00:47:46.789 --> 00:47:47.050
we are.
982
00:47:48.309 --> 00:47:48.869
Golly.
983
00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:49.349
Yeah.
984
00:47:49.949 --> 00:47:53.010
And, and you know, the one thing that I will
985
00:47:53.349 --> 00:47:58.090
go aspire on in this one is they're like, Hey, yeah,
986
00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:00.449
maybe the setup might be similar, but that's because we
987
00:48:00.510 --> 00:48:02.739
have Chris Gabe heart. Like how is he supposed to
988
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.260
forget everything that he learned at Joe Gibbs racing? And that,
989
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.539
I would argue, and I think I've made this argument before,
990
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.480
but I would argue that that is one of the
991
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:18.340
huge negatives in terms of competitiveness between teams. One of
992
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.670
the huge negatives of the system that NASCAR has developed
993
00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.829
now with this current generation car. It is so spec
994
00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:28.469
that you can take stuff you learned when you were
995
00:48:28.489 --> 00:48:31.030
working for Toyota and it can be valuable at a
996
00:48:31.090 --> 00:48:34.400
Chevy or a Ford team and vice versa. The upside
997
00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:36.320
of that is somebody like Chris Gabehart can command a
998
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:40.300
strong salary to move over and be immediately effective because
999
00:48:40.699 --> 00:48:44.489
those skills are transferable. The downside is that there, I mean,
1000
00:48:44.530 --> 00:48:46.730
what trade secrets are there outside of the engine anymore?
1001
00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:49.469
I don't think there are any proprietary things.
1002
00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:55.849
Like, oh, he got our simulator copy. He got the
1003
00:48:55.909 --> 00:48:59.820
update before we did. Like, come on, man. Stop it.
1004
00:48:59.909 --> 00:49:05.059
I mean, what about Toyota's program? chassis suspension wise transmission
1005
00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:09.250
wisely what about that could be considered proprietary because everybody
1006
00:49:09.289 --> 00:49:10.710
has the same parts.
1007
00:49:11.969 --> 00:49:17.449
Yeah i hate i hate that nascar has now become
1008
00:49:17.510 --> 00:49:19.030
like court tv.
1009
00:49:19.670 --> 00:49:21.699
It is There's so many lawsuits.
1010
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.909
But now it gives racing can say now we got
1011
00:49:24.949 --> 00:49:26.670
to shut down a team because of this.
1012
00:49:26.789 --> 00:49:26.969
Yeah.
1013
00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:29.960
We got to shut down our ARCA guys.
1014
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I put that in here, right?
1015
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.139
It's right after this story. That's what I was trying
1016
00:49:36.179 --> 00:49:37.559
to lead you. It's called a segue.
1017
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.260
It is called a segue, and I missed it because
1018
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.780
I had scrolled up too far. Yeah, so Joe Gibbs Racing,
1019
00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:44.159
in reaction to that, was like, oh, man, we don't
1020
00:49:44.190 --> 00:49:47.309
have enough money to pay our lawyers. We need higher-priced lawyers.
1021
00:49:48.110 --> 00:49:51.449
So to accommodate that, we are shutting down our ARCA team.
1022
00:49:52.710 --> 00:49:55.130
They've been running ARCA for 10 years now. They've won
1023
00:49:55.409 --> 00:49:58.489
four owner championships, including this year. You were just talking
1024
00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:01.409
about the fact that ARCA just ended. Joe Gibbs Racing
1025
00:50:01.449 --> 00:50:04.070
didn't win the driver championship because they rotated out guys.
1026
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.840
They won the owner championship for the fourth time, and
1027
00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:10.800
then they're shacking up and going away. And that should
1028
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.019
be a sign to NASCAR, just like when a big
1029
00:50:14.059 --> 00:50:17.739
sponsor leaves, right? One of your biggest teams, a future
1030
00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:20.159
Hall of Fame owner is like, yeah, I can't afford
1031
00:50:20.179 --> 00:50:23.199
to do all of this. That's a sign right there, man.
1032
00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:26.039
Well, I mean, you look at what happened, you go
1033
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.539
back to Roush, how they were dominant in the Truck Series,
1034
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:33.079
had to shut it all down. Yeah, yeah. Dominant in
1035
00:50:33.420 --> 00:50:38.679
the Bush Grand National X Series, Vinny B. O'Reilly's. Yeah.
1036
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:40.650
Had to shut, or lessen that.
1037
00:50:40.949 --> 00:50:41.130
Yeah.
1038
00:50:41.469 --> 00:50:45.010
Like, it's huge when, it's almost, it's one of those
1039
00:50:45.150 --> 00:50:50.510
signs of things not going right. Like, it's a sign
1040
00:50:50.550 --> 00:50:54.139
of a Great Depression or an economical depression. Mm-hmm. When
1041
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.460
you see teams that had such a big scope in
1042
00:50:57.539 --> 00:51:00.190
racing now shut her down, it's like, oh boy, this
1043
00:51:00.250 --> 00:51:00.809
is not good.
1044
00:51:00.829 --> 00:51:05.250
Yeah, absolutely. I agree 100%.
1045
00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:07.030
We'll see how it goes and see if it actually
1046
00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:09.929
boosts their O'Reilly program and actually start a development situation
1047
00:51:09.969 --> 00:51:12.300
there to a Gibbs race.
1048
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.219
So that's happening. What do we got next? Legacy Motor
1049
00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:20.860
Club has announced a new chief revenue officer and the only,
1050
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.539
the only reason that I mentioned this.
1051
00:51:24.019 --> 00:51:25.010
I'm so glad you did.
1052
00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:30.670
Is because the new chief revenue officer is Sean P.
1053
00:51:30.809 --> 00:51:31.230
O'Connor.
1054
00:51:31.289 --> 00:51:34.710
Oh, sorry, Michael O'Connor. But as we know, Michael is
1055
00:51:34.750 --> 00:51:36.010
Sean P. O'Connor's middle name.
1056
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.539
No, vice versa. Oh, Michael. Michael's his birth name. Is
1057
00:51:42.579 --> 00:51:43.480
it really his birth name?
1058
00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:45.219
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1059
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:46.760
Oh my gosh. It's Michael Sean.
1060
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.139
I thought it was Sean Michael O'Connor.
1061
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.460
It's the other way around. Yeah, yeah.
1062
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.500
So Sean P. O'Connor is now in charge of all
1063
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:55.320
of the money at Legacy Motor Club. They're going to
1064
00:51:55.340 --> 00:51:57.260
be doing fine. They've already announced that they're going to
1065
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:57.900
have a competition.
1066
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.960
They're going to have a contest. They're going to have
1067
00:51:59.980 --> 00:52:01.679
a contest. They're not going to let you know you
1068
00:52:01.699 --> 00:52:02.940
have to show up for the contest. Exactly.
1069
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:04.840
They're going to tell you what or when the contest is,
1070
00:52:04.889 --> 00:52:06.650
but they're going to have a contest. That's going to
1071
00:52:06.670 --> 00:52:07.369
bring in all the money.
1072
00:52:07.909 --> 00:52:10.130
Yeah, the contest will be there, and then they'll make
1073
00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:10.510
it happen.
1074
00:52:11.789 --> 00:52:16.070
So congratulations, Sean O., for being the chief revenue officer.
1075
00:52:16.489 --> 00:52:21.840
for Legacy Motor Club. Hey, Jimmy Johnson said, he said
1076
00:52:22.019 --> 00:52:24.380
like a month or two ago that he had an
1077
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:29.889
all-star lineup of people investing in his organization. Sean O'Connor
1078
00:52:29.929 --> 00:52:30.449
is one of those.
1079
00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:33.469
He's going to run the race team from his iPhone. Yeah,
1080
00:52:33.550 --> 00:52:37.829
he is. Oh, my gosh.
1081
00:52:38.210 --> 00:52:40.230
I was so happy when I read that.
1082
00:52:40.650 --> 00:52:42.630
I know. I saw that and just like, oh, he
1083
00:52:42.670 --> 00:52:46.090
better put that down. If not, I can't. There is
1084
00:52:46.170 --> 00:52:46.590
no way.
1085
00:52:47.210 --> 00:52:48.530
No, excuse me.
1086
00:52:48.590 --> 00:52:51.110
No way. I was not going to. Oh, man. Before
1087
00:52:51.130 --> 00:52:54.030
we get to this wild story, that's going to have
1088
00:52:54.090 --> 00:52:55.539
one piece of news. Oh, yeah. What do you think?
1089
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.199
I think the news piece you have has to close
1090
00:52:58.239 --> 00:52:58.579
out the news.
1091
00:52:58.679 --> 00:52:59.420
Oh, yeah, for sure.
1092
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:03.400
But a serious note. Welcome back, Casey Kane.
1093
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:04.940
Yeah. Truck series.
1094
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.619
Joining the Spire Motorsports team in 2027. He will be
1095
00:53:09.739 --> 00:53:13.619
coming out of retirement for that full-time drive.
1096
00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:14.960
I was going to ask if he was running a
1097
00:53:14.980 --> 00:53:15.469
full season.
1098
00:53:15.489 --> 00:53:16.119
That's wild.
1099
00:53:16.750 --> 00:53:17.010
Yeah.
1100
00:53:17.050 --> 00:53:19.389
So he's expected to sign with Spire Motorsports and take
1101
00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:21.090
the wheel out of one of the truck series car
1102
00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:25.429
for the entirety of the 2027 season. Wow. So we
1103
00:53:25.469 --> 00:53:27.809
will see how this all pans out. 46 years old.
1104
00:53:27.849 --> 00:53:30.389
Casey Kane doesn't look a day over 21.
1105
00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:32.380
46. Holy crap. I mean, he still looks young.
1106
00:53:32.940 --> 00:53:35.789
He's gorgeous as hell. Yeah. I mean, look at it
1107
00:53:35.949 --> 00:53:38.269
and still driving. Cause I think he does, uh, I
1108
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:40.500
think he does, uh.
1109
00:53:40.619 --> 00:53:42.300
The dirt track racing or something.
1110
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:44.500
Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. So he, or at least he
1111
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.500
has a team there. So he's still kind of connected.
1112
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.860
I think he, he drove some spot races too. I
1113
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:50.940
want to say, right.
1114
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.070
Yeah, I think so. I'm looking him up right now.
1115
00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:56.170
I think he drove one of the, the, the, the
1116
00:53:56.349 --> 00:54:00.809
Cali cars, right. That's one of the Rams perhaps as a,
1117
00:54:00.869 --> 00:54:02.219
as a thing. I don't know.
1118
00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:05.469
Cup series, 2018 Levine family racing. Oh yeah. It was
1119
00:54:05.510 --> 00:54:08.730
his last gig in Xfinity.
1120
00:54:09.429 --> 00:54:10.389
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1121
00:54:10.429 --> 00:54:12.809
Oh, he ran an RCR car, the 33, uh, last
1122
00:54:12.849 --> 00:54:17.519
year at, um, at, uh, was that Rockingham? Yeah, that
1123
00:54:17.539 --> 00:54:18.320
was Rockingham race.
1124
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.260
He hasn't won that 25 car. That's kind of crazy.
1125
00:54:23.380 --> 00:54:26.900
Everyone else and their mothers run that 25 car. Casey Cain,
1126
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.070
double K, hasn't been there. Casey Cain's good for the sport.
1127
00:54:31.389 --> 00:54:34.710
I completely forgot. I completely forgot about Casey Cain's truck
1128
00:54:34.730 --> 00:54:38.289
series record. Casey Cain has run one, two, three, four, five.
1129
00:54:38.530 --> 00:54:41.199
He's only run six truck races in his entire life.
1130
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:45.239
He's only run six truck races. He's won five of
1131
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.090
them and finished second in the other one.
1132
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.400
But when's the last time he did that? 2015. Okay,
1133
00:54:51.579 --> 00:54:53.130
so it's been a minute.
1134
00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:55.949
But he's won five of the six races he's ever
1135
00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:57.369
run in that series.
1136
00:54:57.929 --> 00:54:59.090
That's pretty wild, though.
1137
00:54:59.610 --> 00:55:05.449
That's crazy. Man. But this is the exact type of
1138
00:55:05.469 --> 00:55:07.690
thing the Truck Series needs. I mean, we used to
1139
00:55:07.750 --> 00:55:09.889
see that. We used to see these veteran drivers go
1140
00:55:09.969 --> 00:55:12.409
back to the Truck Series and try to do something
1141
00:55:12.469 --> 00:55:15.349
against the young kids. And, yeah, he's a little bit older,
1142
00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:18.409
and so coming back to the Cup Series probably wouldn't
1143
00:55:18.469 --> 00:55:20.480
pan out. There's not really a good ride for him.
1144
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.280
But if he can get a decent ride in the
1145
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.719
Truck Series, I think that's a great pull for the sport.
1146
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.960
You get to see somebody you're really familiar with, and
1147
00:55:29.019 --> 00:55:30.880
he's got a really good chance of running well.
1148
00:55:31.969 --> 00:55:35.190
Yeah, I mean, and it's one where they don't care
1149
00:55:35.230 --> 00:55:37.650
if he messes up. Just give us some sponsors. Yeah.
1150
00:55:38.150 --> 00:55:39.800
It was the way which should be easy for him.
1151
00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:41.159
Yeah, absolutely.
1152
00:55:41.179 --> 00:55:42.159
In case he came, man.
1153
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:43.280
Hell yeah.
1154
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.840
He looks like half his age and he dominated every
1155
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.079
truck race he's ever been in.
1156
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.420
I know. So annoying.
1157
00:55:51.739 --> 00:55:54.070
What is that average? Like 1.25 is an average finish. Oh,
1158
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:55.460
more than like 1.1.
1159
00:55:55.460 --> 00:56:02.539
Some stuff like that's nuts, dude. Kind of wild. Oh, man.
1160
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:04.900
So congrats to Casey Kane. It'll be fun to see
1161
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:06.820
what he can do there against Malcolm in the middle.
1162
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.860
Oh, I mean, that's the matchup we've all desired.
1163
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:11.440
The two of them going at it. Come on, let's
1164
00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:11.800
do this.
1165
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:13.559
All right.
1166
00:56:13.619 --> 00:56:17.059
So I had to do some research on this one
1167
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.500
because I was like, what the hell is happening here?
1168
00:56:19.940 --> 00:56:24.889
How does this happen? All right. So everyone's favorite, Jennifer
1169
00:56:24.909 --> 00:56:25.369
Jo Cobb.
1170
00:56:26.190 --> 00:56:27.469
God bless. She's back in the news.
1171
00:56:27.570 --> 00:56:29.610
I mean, it's been a while. And the last time
1172
00:56:29.650 --> 00:56:32.639
it was controversy, too. Didn't someone steal her car or
1173
00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:33.070
her hauler?
1174
00:56:33.699 --> 00:56:35.250
I thought it was Mike Harmon.
1175
00:56:35.510 --> 00:56:38.369
It was a Mike Harmon thing where somebody stole somebody's
1176
00:56:38.409 --> 00:56:41.909
car and hauler or whatever. Jennifer Jo Cobb is back
1177
00:56:41.969 --> 00:56:50.000
and this destroys the whole hauler situation thing. Apparently, according
1178
00:56:50.019 --> 00:56:53.400
to reports, this is allegedly, although maybe not allegedly because
1179
00:56:53.420 --> 00:56:56.420
there was a ruling association with it. Actually, no, it's
1180
00:56:56.460 --> 00:56:59.510
not allegedly because she did admit it. She did admit it.
1181
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.889
Jennifer Jo Cobb was having an affair with Clayton Hughes,
1182
00:57:05.909 --> 00:57:10.409
who was a spotter in NASCAR. This was in 2021,
1183
00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:14.800
I want to say. So Clayton Hughes was married at
1184
00:57:14.820 --> 00:57:18.059
the time. The best part about this is that Jennifer
1185
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:23.280
Jo Cobb was also married at the time. And they
1186
00:57:23.300 --> 00:57:28.190
were having this affair. And then Clayton Hughes's wife, because
1187
00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:30.630
Clayton Hughes and, you know, I guess, fessed up at
1188
00:57:30.670 --> 00:57:33.929
some point, he and his wife got divorced. His wife
1189
00:57:34.809 --> 00:57:39.050
sued Jennifer Jo Cobb, and you're like, for what? There
1190
00:57:39.150 --> 00:57:43.690
are two laws, two very kind of rare laws in
1191
00:57:44.170 --> 00:57:49.119
the United States that are both applicable in North Carolina,
1192
00:57:49.219 --> 00:57:52.800
and really the only place they're ever used commonly is
1193
00:57:52.840 --> 00:58:00.050
in North Carolina, that allow the spouse of to sue
1194
00:58:00.110 --> 00:58:04.380
the other person, the third wheel in the relationship. If
1195
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.440
that relationship then is broken up, right? If there's an
1196
00:58:07.500 --> 00:58:12.099
extramarital relationship and then the initial marriage breaks up because
1197
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.739
of it, then there are two things you can sue for.
1198
00:58:14.780 --> 00:58:16.429
And I didn't write them down. I wish I did
1199
00:58:16.449 --> 00:58:20.690
because they're kind of hilarious. One of them is like criminal, like,
1200
00:58:20.769 --> 00:58:25.050
what is it? It's, it's like criminal conversation. I think
1201
00:58:25.090 --> 00:58:27.409
is what it is. And conversation apparently is an, Like
1202
00:58:27.449 --> 00:58:32.050
an old school catch term for doing stuff together. And
1203
00:58:32.070 --> 00:58:36.050
then the other one is for... I can't remember what
1204
00:58:36.090 --> 00:58:38.800
the wording is, but basically it's for breaking up a marriage, right?
1205
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.460
And so Clayton Hughes' wife sued Jennifer Jo Cobb. And
1206
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.420
Jennifer Jo Cobb fessed up. She was like, yeah, we
1207
00:58:46.460 --> 00:58:49.829
were having an affair, but I shouldn't have to pay anything.
1208
00:58:49.869 --> 00:58:54.579
I shouldn't have to be convicted of this because... We
1209
00:58:54.739 --> 00:58:58.039
only did things outside of North Carolina. We didn't sleep
1210
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.019
together in North Carolina. We did it, but just not
1211
00:59:01.059 --> 00:59:06.929
in North Carolina. The judge disagreed and penalized her $ 50, 000
1212
00:59:06.250 --> 00:59:09.610
for the breaking a couple up law and then $ 8, 000.
1213
00:59:10.349 --> 00:59:17.460
hundred thousand dollars for the criminal conversation infraction golly and
1214
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.320
so the thing about this is this has been used
1215
00:59:20.420 --> 00:59:22.219
apparently it's used a couple hundred times a year in
1216
00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:25.139
north carolina where like the other states where they have
1217
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.719
these types of laws it's hardly ever used um And
1218
00:59:28.900 --> 00:59:32.059
Jennifer Jo Cobb can, and I'm sure will, appeal both
1219
00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:34.280
the ruling and the size of the fine. So my
1220
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.260
guess is this fine will be drastically reduced from $ 850, 000.
1221
00:59:36.940 --> 00:59:41.460
But boy, if it isn't, I hope it was worth
1222
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.119
the 50.
1223
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:43.639
Yeah, right?
1224
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:44.619
You know?
1225
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:48.550
I hope it's more than the three inches that they're
1226
00:59:48.570 --> 00:59:49.289
doing at Talladega.
1227
00:59:49.550 --> 00:59:50.550
Who?
1228
00:59:50.590 --> 00:59:52.610
Three and a half. Three and a half. Oh, sorry.
1229
00:59:52.650 --> 00:59:53.010
Three and a half.
1230
00:59:53.030 --> 00:59:55.789
Make sure you get that correct. We don't want to
1231
00:59:55.809 --> 00:59:57.130
be shortchanged up in here.
1232
00:59:57.150 --> 00:59:58.219
No, God, no.
1233
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:03.380
Dude, who knew that Jennifer Jo Cobb was such a player? First,
1234
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.760
there was the Mark Harmon thing, which obviously there was
1235
01:00:05.780 --> 01:00:07.760
something going on there. Then she was married to some
1236
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:12.139
other dude. Who knows if that was happening simultaneously. But this, admittedly,
1237
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.260
was happening simultaneously.
1238
01:00:14.849 --> 01:00:18.030
Yeah, I mean, God, that dude must be nice.
1239
01:00:18.269 --> 01:00:21.570
And the part that I didn't put in the notes,
1240
01:00:21.869 --> 01:00:23.210
but I put in the email to you the other
1241
01:00:23.250 --> 01:00:24.829
day or last night or whenever it was, when I
1242
01:00:24.849 --> 01:00:29.909
was reading up about this, is that Jennifer Jo Cobb
1243
01:00:29.969 --> 01:00:32.349
is no longer, I don't think she's married to her
1244
01:00:32.750 --> 01:00:37.219
former husband anymore. I think that relationship broke up when
1245
01:00:37.340 --> 01:00:42.840
her then-husband was arrested. And her husband was arrested for assaulting,
1246
01:00:43.380 --> 01:00:48.820
guess who? Clayton Hughes. So apparently, he found out what
1247
01:00:48.860 --> 01:00:52.889
was going on, took a swing at the dude, and
1248
01:00:52.929 --> 01:00:55.969
got arrested for it. He went to jail. They broke up.
1249
01:00:56.030 --> 01:00:58.050
Clayton Hughes and his wife broke up. And now Jennifer
1250
01:00:58.070 --> 01:01:00.610
Jo Cobb is the one holding the bag, literally, when
1251
01:01:00.650 --> 01:01:01.429
it comes to the cash.
1252
01:01:02.690 --> 01:01:05.250
And literally in other ways, too, I'm sure.
1253
01:01:05.369 --> 01:01:07.409
Yeah, it might have been. You never know.
1254
01:01:07.429 --> 01:01:11.320
Yeah, I mean, but I mean, you know, she's, you know.
1255
01:01:11.579 --> 01:01:14.280
How does she have $ 850, 000 is what I want to know.
1256
01:01:14.380 --> 01:01:16.719
Oh, hey, yeah, that's probably why she's getting the sense,
1257
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.260
trying to get everything reduced. Yeah, for sure. I mean,
1258
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.929
she's all right. I mean, yeah. Shout out. Shout out
1259
01:01:23.949 --> 01:01:26.530
to her. I mean, yeah. By the way, that Mike
1260
01:01:26.570 --> 01:01:28.840
Harmon thing happened in 2013. That was 2013.
1261
01:01:28.820 --> 01:01:31.880
Oh my gosh. I remember when we were talking about
1262
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:32.679
that on the show.
1263
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:38.360
Yeah, dude. Um, also she's, she's 53. She's looking good
1264
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:39.059
for 53.
1265
01:01:39.059 --> 01:01:40.610
I was about to, I was just looking that up
1266
01:01:40.659 --> 01:01:41.030
right now.
1267
01:01:41.070 --> 01:01:41.329
Yeah.
1268
01:01:41.349 --> 01:01:42.530
She's 53 years old.
1269
01:01:42.570 --> 01:01:43.289
Wow. All right.
1270
01:01:43.869 --> 01:01:45.730
Yeah. Still making it happen, man.
1271
01:01:46.190 --> 01:01:50.920
Shout out to her. Yeah. You know, it's, you know, Man,
1272
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.679
when it's so good, it's going to cost her $ 8. 50?
1273
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:54.019
I know.
1274
01:01:54.659 --> 01:01:58.519
I don't think anybody's worth $ 8. 50, dude.
1275
01:01:59.219 --> 01:02:02.360
What's up with North Carolina and having these all still
1276
01:02:02.380 --> 01:02:03.440
in the book? I know.
1277
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:04.639
It's crazy, isn't it?
1278
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.260
I had some pious stuff going on there, dog.
1279
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:11.320
Now, if you're Clayton Hughes' ex-wife, do you think it
1280
01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:15.139
was worth going through all the hassle and the stress
1281
01:02:15.179 --> 01:02:16.820
and the tears and everything? I mean, you just got
1282
01:02:16.860 --> 01:02:21.940
paid $ 8. 50 or potentially $ 8.
1283
01:02:19.179 --> 01:02:21.599
50. You're going to get paid something.
1284
01:02:21.900 --> 01:02:24.099
It feels like it might have been worth it.
1285
01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:28.820
Yeah. Well, it's better than that. Plus, on top of that,
1286
01:02:29.179 --> 01:02:30.840
half of his. Yeah.
1287
01:02:31.219 --> 01:02:31.739
Exactly.
1288
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.300
The divorce.
1289
01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:33.179
Yeah.
1290
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.840
So, I mean, you're making out pretty nicely.
1291
01:02:35.989 --> 01:02:38.030
I mean, if you're going to take one for the team,
1292
01:02:38.090 --> 01:02:39.469
it might as well be taking one for the team
1293
01:02:39.489 --> 01:02:40.889
to get you 850.
1294
01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:44.050
Right. Make it happen. Get a little extra for yourself.
1295
01:02:44.090 --> 01:02:45.389
Go get some. Yeah.
1296
01:02:45.510 --> 01:02:47.630
At the beginning, she looked like the sperm person. Now
1297
01:02:47.650 --> 01:02:49.400
she looks like the real winner coming out of this one.
1298
01:02:49.690 --> 01:02:51.429
Yeah, big win. Big win for her.
1299
01:02:52.590 --> 01:02:54.400
I don't know, and I can't say whether Clayton Hughes
1300
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:56.219
and Jennifer Jo Cobb are still together, but I have
1301
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:56.619
a guess.
1302
01:02:57.739 --> 01:02:58.260
I probably not.
1303
01:02:58.280 --> 01:02:59.880
That it might not be, yeah, exactly.
1304
01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:04.380
Probably not. Probably not, yeah. Shout out Jennifer Jo Cobb.
1305
01:03:04.539 --> 01:03:08.170
I mean, she is responsible for some of the weirdest
1306
01:03:08.230 --> 01:03:10.050
stories we've ever talked about on this show.
1307
01:03:10.750 --> 01:03:14.150
I know, man. And the fact that now I know
1308
01:03:14.190 --> 01:03:16.929
there's places that have these laws where if you talk
1309
01:03:16.969 --> 01:03:22.789
about You talk sexy to another person, it can cost you.
1310
01:03:21.929 --> 01:03:27.929
$ 8, 800.
1311
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.320
But really, shout out to Clayton Hughes' ex-wife for finding
1312
01:03:27.340 --> 01:03:27.719
these laws.
1313
01:03:27.739 --> 01:03:28.539
Yeah, exactly.
1314
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:29.940
And making it happen.
1315
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.559
The other thing I've learned is, you know, if I'm
1316
01:03:32.619 --> 01:03:35.010
out looking, apparently Jennifer Jo Cobb is too.
1317
01:03:35.730 --> 01:03:36.670
Hell yeah, brother.
1318
01:03:36.929 --> 01:03:38.170
There might be a chance there.
1319
01:03:38.789 --> 01:03:42.269
Get you some of that. Get you some of that
1320
01:03:42.409 --> 01:03:43.610
Steeler Hall or two.
1321
01:03:46.889 --> 01:03:49.389
Still a hauler. A hauler.
1322
01:03:49.429 --> 01:03:50.969
I barely know her. Exactly.
1323
01:03:51.110 --> 01:03:53.010
Cut that in the spoiler size. You're good to go.
1324
01:03:53.030 --> 01:03:54.719
Bingo. Bingo.
1325
01:03:57.019 --> 01:03:59.719
Oh, my gosh. I do have a little bit of
1326
01:03:59.739 --> 01:04:01.840
sponsor news. And we're about to talk about pain schemes
1327
01:04:01.860 --> 01:04:03.360
here in a minute. And both of these will be
1328
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:07.000
represented this weekend. The Evil Knievel Experience. I'm not quite
1329
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.480
sure what that is. Did they put you on a
1330
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.639
motorcycle and have you jump over the Caesar's Fountain? Yeah.
1331
01:04:13.019 --> 01:04:14.980
I think that's probably what they do.
1332
01:04:15.059 --> 01:04:16.429
It also doubles as a bidet ad.
1333
01:04:16.789 --> 01:04:17.289
I think so.
1334
01:04:17.409 --> 01:04:20.510
Yeah. Exactly.
1335
01:04:21.139 --> 01:04:22.920
They're going to be on number 51 Cody Ware car
1336
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:25.519
this weekend in Las Vegas because, you know, Evel Knievel,
1337
01:04:25.619 --> 01:04:27.360
Las Vegas, Caesars Fountain.
1338
01:04:27.380 --> 01:04:29.480
I think they've done that before, too.
1339
01:04:29.500 --> 01:04:31.179
I think they have. Evel Knievel has been on the
1340
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:35.659
car before, for sure. And then HP has signed an
1341
01:04:35.780 --> 01:04:40.010
extension through 2029 with the 24 car of William Byron.
1342
01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:46.429
They will be featured on the 24 car at least
1343
01:04:46.510 --> 01:04:48.880
twice a year during the rest of that span. One
1344
01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:51.500
of those races is this weekend.
1345
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:54.920
At Vegas. How about that?
1346
01:04:56.340 --> 01:04:57.380
Conveniently announced.
1347
01:04:58.940 --> 01:05:01.860
Convenient. It's almost like they made it this way.
1348
01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:05.590
In fact, in the Evel Knievel experience, if you don't
1349
01:05:05.650 --> 01:05:07.190
break a bone by the end of it, you get
1350
01:05:07.210 --> 01:05:07.710
your money back.
1351
01:05:07.730 --> 01:05:11.070
I don't know. that's you know that's good money back
1352
01:05:11.550 --> 01:05:12.429
yeah so.
1353
01:05:12.329 --> 01:05:14.860
They're guaranteeing you're gonna have a genuine kenevil type of
1354
01:05:14.929 --> 01:05:19.079
experience in this one exactly yeah yeah um so then
1355
01:05:19.099 --> 01:05:21.139
that brings us to las vegas where we will have
1356
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:22.039
an evil kenevil.
1357
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:27.570
Car 36 no that's it we're only putting 36 out
1358
01:05:27.590 --> 01:05:30.190
there even with the evil kenevil car especially with the
1359
01:05:30.250 --> 01:05:31.230
evil kenevil yeah.
1360
01:05:31.309 --> 01:05:36.400
Yeah yeah not the only um Vegas-y style sponsor Tootsies
1361
01:05:36.460 --> 01:05:37.900
is going to be on the Ross Chastain car. Although
1362
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:41.880
I believe, if I remember correctly, Tootsies is in Nashville.
1363
01:05:42.500 --> 01:05:44.340
A club, but in Nashville, not in Vegas.
1364
01:05:44.460 --> 01:05:48.699
But a lot of gambling ads. A lot of gambling ads. Yeah,
1365
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:49.179
for sure.
1366
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:56.980
And that does bring us to the, to the PNC preview. Oh, which, sorry.
1367
01:05:58.219 --> 01:05:58.760
Do your shtick.
1368
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.380
The only thing on NASCAR.com, which was good, but then
1369
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:05.369
they subsequently ruined it. Now it's somewhere in the middle again. it's, uh, the,
1370
01:06:05.449 --> 01:06:07.309
the paint scheme preview. Uh, so as you look through
1371
01:06:07.329 --> 01:06:09.889
these paint schemes, uh, what, what do you like there?
1372
01:06:09.909 --> 01:06:11.159
There are a couple of interesting ones.
1373
01:06:11.219 --> 01:06:13.500
I think there are a couple ones that stick out
1374
01:06:13.539 --> 01:06:16.659
to me. Yeah. Um, first off it's October and I'm
1375
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:18.179
surprised we're not seeing all the pink cars.
1376
01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:21.099
Yeah. The pace car will be pink this weekend.
1377
01:06:21.460 --> 01:06:26.360
That's cool. Um, I got two already, um, scroll button 2.0
1378
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.000
down to the 55 in the, uh, in the, uh,
1379
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:32.840
O O O O Riley series. Give me that, uh,
1380
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:37.070
Is that the Joey Gase fire prevention? It's got the
1381
01:06:37.250 --> 01:06:38.250
dog making it on the side.
1382
01:06:38.269 --> 01:06:39.949
Yeah, I think his name is Sparky. I can't remember
1383
01:06:39.969 --> 01:06:41.489
if his name is Sparky or not. I think it's
1384
01:06:41.510 --> 01:06:41.929
something like that.
1385
01:06:41.949 --> 01:06:44.530
It's ironic if the fire dog's name was Sparky. Yeah, yeah.
1386
01:06:44.989 --> 01:06:47.070
That's something you don't want to cause. There was a thing.
1387
01:06:47.090 --> 01:06:48.630
I had to do a thing for work with him,
1388
01:06:48.849 --> 01:06:51.780
like incorporating him, and I can't remember what his name is.
1389
01:06:52.579 --> 01:06:53.159
Joey Gase?
1390
01:06:53.340 --> 01:06:54.480
Yeah, Joey Gase.
1391
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.519
Joey Gase. Oh, Joey. Joey.
1392
01:06:58.190 --> 01:07:00.130
I had to put his mug on a graphic.
1393
01:07:01.210 --> 01:07:06.090
You're wild. The only Joey Gates mug. The second car
1394
01:07:06.110 --> 01:07:08.880
I want to pick is the Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Jack's
1395
01:07:08.929 --> 01:07:13.400
Link car. Just because it looks so simple. It looks
1396
01:07:13.420 --> 01:07:16.719
like an old school, like mid-80s kind of a car.
1397
01:07:17.780 --> 01:07:21.320
Just a simple black and gold and red with the
1398
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.199
Jack's Link on there.
1399
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.030
I'm getting up to it right now.
1400
01:07:25.090 --> 01:07:26.309
Where is it? 47 of Xfinity.
1401
01:07:28.730 --> 01:07:30.130
Oh, sorry.
1402
01:07:30.150 --> 01:07:33.079
Sorry. 47 a cup car. 47 a cup. It's slide 29.
1403
01:07:33.070 --> 01:07:34.949
Here we go.
1404
01:07:35.010 --> 01:07:35.409
Where is he?
1405
01:07:35.429 --> 01:07:37.280
Where is he? Oh yeah. Okay. All right.
1406
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:38.820
Right on. I like the gold at the bottom.
1407
01:07:39.380 --> 01:07:41.940
It's classic. It, you know, the Jack's links logos on
1408
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.519
the hood too. Yep. Simple. It's simple. Uh, when you
1409
01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:48.079
look at all the other designs, uh, shout out to
1410
01:07:48.099 --> 01:07:50.480
the 49 or 45, that looks sick. I'm not going
1411
01:07:50.500 --> 01:07:53.059
to pick it. Uh, cause it's got the monsters on it,
1412
01:07:53.059 --> 01:07:55.980
but shout out to them. It's good looking car. Uh,
1413
01:07:56.730 --> 01:07:58.789
Don't know what's going on in the 35 with Riley Herbst,
1414
01:07:58.809 --> 01:08:00.070
the guy. I don't know if he's doing the I
1415
01:08:00.110 --> 01:08:00.829
love you sign.
1416
01:08:01.190 --> 01:08:03.429
I was trying to figure that out as well. Is
1417
01:08:03.449 --> 01:08:04.670
he doing the little heart thing?
1418
01:08:04.909 --> 01:08:06.679
Is he doing the Korean I love you? Or is
1419
01:08:06.699 --> 01:08:07.880
he looking at tobacco? I can't tell.
1420
01:08:07.900 --> 01:08:10.119
I think he's pinching a little thing of tobacco he's
1421
01:08:10.139 --> 01:08:10.960
going to put in his mouth.
1422
01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:11.599
A little pouch.
1423
01:08:11.659 --> 01:08:13.460
But it does look like he's doing a little heart thing.
1424
01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:16.000
Yeah. And I think I know one you're going to pick.
1425
01:08:16.220 --> 01:08:17.840
So I'm going to stay away from that. And if
1426
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:19.460
you don't pick it, then I'll be a little bit
1427
01:08:20.100 --> 01:08:24.100
sus on you. No. No. Give me the number zero.
1428
01:08:24.350 --> 01:08:29.529
The Zony car. of garrett smithley a nice tropical theme
1429
01:08:29.930 --> 01:08:33.109
this would be almost better suited for uh uh homestead
1430
01:08:33.130 --> 01:08:36.609
uh oh yeah no i like that one yep yeah
1431
01:08:36.649 --> 01:08:38.029
it's a sick looking car.
1432
01:08:37.810 --> 01:08:39.850
It does look very homestead doesn't.
1433
01:08:39.630 --> 01:08:44.149
It yeah uh the the almost the miami vice kind
1434
01:08:44.189 --> 01:08:47.310
of theme yeah yeah for sure for sure All right,
1435
01:08:47.350 --> 01:08:49.270
now let's see if we're on the same wavelength. If
1436
01:08:49.289 --> 01:08:50.489
you're going to pick a car that I think you're
1437
01:08:50.510 --> 01:08:51.670
going to pick and you should pick it. If you
1438
01:08:51.689 --> 01:08:53.090
don't pick it, boy, am I going to be disappointed?
1439
01:08:53.109 --> 01:08:55.069
I know right now the pressure is on.
1440
01:08:55.149 --> 01:08:55.510
Okay.
1441
01:08:55.590 --> 01:08:58.409
So I want to pick at least one X slash
1442
01:08:58.569 --> 01:08:59.939
O series car here.
1443
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.159
There's good. There's a good O series cars too. Yeah.
1444
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.199
There were a couple of good ones. Um, although you
1445
01:09:05.220 --> 01:09:08.619
pick some really good ones. Um, there was one, where
1446
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:11.760
was it? Does that say game of fish TV? Oh,
1447
01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:12.800
game and fish TV.
1448
01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:15.119
Sorry. Okay. Game of fish TV. Okay.
1449
01:09:17.850 --> 01:09:21.649
Um, Oh, Oh, I'm definitely going with, uh, Brent Cruz
1450
01:09:21.689 --> 01:09:24.300
and the number 19 Grand Canyon university Toyota.
1451
01:09:25.220 --> 01:09:26.720
Uh, it's purple.
1452
01:09:26.979 --> 01:09:29.159
I like purple. Um, and it's got like a, like
1453
01:09:29.180 --> 01:09:31.720
a little, like, like deer or something jumping on it.
1454
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:34.600
I think it's the, they're the, the antelopes.
1455
01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:37.140
Oh, is that what they are? Antelopes. Yeah. Antelope leaping
1456
01:09:37.180 --> 01:09:39.510
on the side of it. A little cacti down there.
1457
01:09:39.529 --> 01:09:42.090
A little mound. The only thing, this is the only
1458
01:09:42.109 --> 01:09:44.569
thing for me with that, this car, because I dig
1459
01:09:44.590 --> 01:09:47.630
the car. The cactus, if you look at the Saguaro
1460
01:09:47.649 --> 01:09:50.619
cactus they used, it's the same one four times. That
1461
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:54.000
drives me nuts. Same exact one. They just zoomed in
1462
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.039
and out a little bit. That to me is laziness.
1463
01:09:57.579 --> 01:09:59.510
Look, dude, they're working on a budget there. They just
1464
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:00.470
shut down the ARCA team.
1465
01:10:00.689 --> 01:10:01.489
Yeah, that's true.
1466
01:10:01.770 --> 01:10:05.710
It's lazy. They're struggling for graphic design. Again, this This
1467
01:10:05.829 --> 01:10:08.449
also could have been a Grand Canyon University student who
1468
01:10:08.489 --> 01:10:09.050
made this together.
1469
01:10:09.069 --> 01:10:10.609
It could have been. It very well could have been.
1470
01:10:10.890 --> 01:10:13.750
And also is not a good showing for their design program.
1471
01:10:14.250 --> 01:10:14.729
That's true.
1472
01:10:14.829 --> 01:10:15.229
That's true.
1473
01:10:16.210 --> 01:10:23.720
So that's one. I'm also going to go with, oh,
1474
01:10:23.819 --> 01:10:28.119
I love, I love the 77 Carson Hose of our
1475
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:28.739
Spectrum car.
1476
01:10:29.140 --> 01:10:30.420
It's a nice car. I like that one too.
1477
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.699
I dig all the colors. Very vintage, very 70s looking.
1478
01:10:34.859 --> 01:10:36.600
It has nothing to do with spectrum, so I don't
1479
01:10:36.619 --> 01:10:37.920
know why they put that on the car, but it
1480
01:10:37.939 --> 01:10:42.359
looks awesome. And then the third car I'm going to pick,
1481
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.300
I'm also going to shout out the 45. I dig
1482
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:48.340
it a lot, but I don't know how I can't.
1483
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:49.619
And I don't know if this is the one you
1484
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:50.920
were thinking I was going to go with or not.
1485
01:10:50.939 --> 01:10:55.279
I don't know how I can't go with Kyle Larson
1486
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:56.180
in a number five car.
1487
01:10:56.300 --> 01:10:57.560
That's the one. Yeah.
1488
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.220
I mean, it's a Kellogg's car.
1489
01:10:59.890 --> 01:11:00.119
Yeah.
1490
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:01.800
I mean, you got to go with it.
1491
01:11:03.010 --> 01:11:04.789
Yeah. It's a, it's a good ride. It's the, it's
1492
01:11:04.829 --> 01:11:08.140
the tribute car for Kyle Busch at his home track.
1493
01:11:08.260 --> 01:11:11.760
It looks super sick with the font of the Hendrick car.
1494
01:11:11.779 --> 01:11:13.439
And then they did the visit with the, in the
1495
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.479
cheese at font. Nice. On there too, like above the
1496
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:20.560
Hendrick car. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's awesome. Um, Awesomely
1497
01:11:20.579 --> 01:11:24.130
well done on that car. Another iconic car that Hendrick
1498
01:11:24.149 --> 01:11:24.630
has put out.
1499
01:11:24.789 --> 01:11:25.729
Yeah, no, it's great.
1500
01:11:25.949 --> 01:11:26.270
It's great.
1501
01:11:26.949 --> 01:11:29.270
That was my, I think my second favorite. I do
1502
01:11:29.310 --> 01:11:30.890
like the Spectrum car a little bit better, but this
1503
01:11:30.970 --> 01:11:31.949
one is fantastic.
1504
01:11:32.329 --> 01:11:33.029
Yeah, for sure.
1505
01:11:33.090 --> 01:11:37.739
Tribute car. This is Darlington level. Darlington throwback level.
1506
01:11:38.060 --> 01:11:38.680
Very much so.
1507
01:11:38.699 --> 01:11:39.720
They don't do that anymore.
1508
01:11:40.340 --> 01:11:41.659
No, it's kind of, yeah.
1509
01:11:42.020 --> 01:11:43.399
Oh man, now we got to make picks.
1510
01:11:44.140 --> 01:11:45.779
Boy, did you make a pick? We didn't do a
1511
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:47.310
show last week. We didn't do a show last week.
1512
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.550
So yeah, so I definitely picked Kyle Larson last week.
1513
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:54.020
Yeah, no, of course. This is why I picked Kyle
1514
01:11:54.060 --> 01:11:55.659
Larson at St. Louis.
1515
01:11:56.449 --> 01:12:00.250
Exactly, exactly. So I will acquiesce and give you the
1516
01:12:00.310 --> 01:12:05.289
entire field of 78 cars. Oh, sorry, 36 cars to
1517
01:12:05.329 --> 01:12:07.329
choose from for this race.
1518
01:12:07.810 --> 01:12:09.409
Which is true because the last time we did a
1519
01:12:09.449 --> 01:12:12.020
pick was Darlington and Ty Gibbs got second place. That's right.
1520
01:12:12.029 --> 01:12:12.529
Bubba had eighth.
1521
01:12:12.729 --> 01:12:13.579
That's right, that's right.
1522
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:18.819
I get the full 36, including the Evel Knievel car. Oh, yeah.
1523
01:12:19.270 --> 01:12:23.210
Got to go with it. It's a tough one. It
1524
01:12:23.229 --> 01:12:26.069
really is because, because Ford and Chevy have kind of
1525
01:12:26.100 --> 01:12:27.819
muddied the waters here in terms of who's good.
1526
01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:33.000
Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and part of me wants to keep,
1527
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:36.439
keep it rolling, keep that dice rolling, but out, but
1528
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:38.760
Kyle Larson also kind of benefact better. It was a
1529
01:12:38.779 --> 01:12:43.930
benefactor of rain out, uh, qualifying. Yeah. Yeah. This weekend, unless,
1530
01:12:43.970 --> 01:12:48.069
you know, uh, here we're getting like 47 feet of rain.
1531
01:12:48.109 --> 01:12:53.930
If you'd listen to the meteorologist here in really, really. Um, so, uh,
1532
01:12:54.670 --> 01:12:58.960
but God, who's run well here. I don't know, but
1533
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:03.659
I'm going to give it the old college try. And
1534
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.279
I am going to pick Ryan Blaney and a bounce back.
1535
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:09.439
Wow.
1536
01:13:09.500 --> 01:13:09.840
Okay.
1537
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:11.229
All right. Right on, right on.
1538
01:13:11.810 --> 01:13:13.689
No clue if he could run good here or not,
1539
01:13:13.750 --> 01:13:14.729
but just why not?
1540
01:13:15.050 --> 01:13:19.020
Here's the stat line. 20 races run at Vegas. His
1541
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:24.180
average start is 13.9. His average finish, 15.2. That sounds bad,
1542
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:28.060
but it's good enough for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
1543
01:13:28.060 --> 01:13:33.130
9th overall among recent drivers. Two of those drivers are
1544
01:13:33.170 --> 01:13:36.430
not racing anymore, so that makes him 7th among active drivers.
1545
01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:38.100
Okay, not terrible.
1546
01:13:38.180 --> 01:13:41.560
That's not terrible at all. Just to give everybody an
1547
01:13:41.619 --> 01:13:43.760
idea of how hard it is to pick here, especially
1548
01:13:43.899 --> 01:13:48.270
given how the chase has started with Toyota and Ford
1549
01:13:48.289 --> 01:13:51.470
both having a win and Chevy having two wins. When
1550
01:13:51.489 --> 01:13:56.479
you look at the top guys here, Kyle Larson, three wins, right?
1551
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.479
In the Chevy. Joey Logano in his Ford, four wins
1552
01:14:00.699 --> 01:14:04.619
at Vegas. Denny Hamlin in his Toyota, three wins at Vegas.
1553
01:14:04.989 --> 01:14:07.329
Those are your top three drivers. The only other driver
1554
01:14:07.529 --> 01:14:10.250
in that mix with them is Martin Trex Jr., who,
1555
01:14:10.270 --> 01:14:15.109
of course, doesn't race anymore. And so who knows? Who
1556
01:14:15.149 --> 01:14:21.819
knows which manufacturer is best here? But I think that
1557
01:14:21.939 --> 01:14:24.840
given the way... Man, it's so tough to not pick
1558
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.380
a Chevy right now or a Ford driver. But given
1559
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:29.859
the way the chase has started and the fact that
1560
01:14:29.899 --> 01:14:33.079
eventually they're going to have to get their ass in motion...
1561
01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:37.000
I'm going to go Toyota on this one, and I'm
1562
01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.840
going to go to the wheelhouse here and pick Denny Hamlin.
1563
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:42.939
Okay.
1564
01:14:43.180 --> 01:14:45.020
Because I think he knows he needs to step it up.
1565
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.779
I think Toyota and JGR know they need.
1566
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:50.939
To step it up. Oh, absolutely. Especially when he reads
1567
01:14:50.979 --> 01:14:53.960
that Winston Cup thing, he should be up by 400. Yeah.
1568
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:55.819
Motivation.
1569
01:14:56.460 --> 01:15:00.279
Yeah, exactly. I want those old graphics back. Let's go. Yeah, yeah.
1570
01:15:02.390 --> 01:15:04.899
I don't know what kind of side bet we could have.
1571
01:15:04.989 --> 01:15:05.739
Nothing on the side.
1572
01:15:05.859 --> 01:15:06.439
Nobody in there.
1573
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.600
We're not Jennifer. We're not Jennifer Jo Cobb. We got
1574
01:15:08.659 --> 01:15:09.560
nothing on the side, dog.
1575
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.359
Exactly. Are you available? Because I got another side over here.
1576
01:15:14.699 --> 01:15:19.069
You're right. God damn. KFC family menu. What are we
1577
01:15:19.090 --> 01:15:20.949
doing with all these? It's crazy.
1578
01:15:21.420 --> 01:15:25.359
So just to recap, the Wasp Man has Ryan Blaney.
1579
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.100
I'm picking Denny Hamlin. We're going with the bad drivers.
1580
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:30.680
So if you want to find out who wins the race,
1581
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.119
who wins the bet, who wins the non-existent side bet,
1582
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.779
and whether it was any good or not, because, I mean,
1583
01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:38.239
come on, it's Vegas. You're not going to watch. It's
1584
01:15:38.390 --> 01:15:41.229
marginally more interesting than Texas, and that's not saying much.
1585
01:15:42.289 --> 01:15:43.869
Come back next week. We'll talk about the race. We'll
1586
01:15:43.890 --> 01:15:46.130
tell you who won and whether it was interesting or not.
1587
01:15:46.810 --> 01:15:48.460
Subscribe to the show. That way you won't miss it.
1588
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:54.340
You can do that on Apple Podcasts, YouTube Podcasts, Spreaker, Stitcher, Player.fm, Spotify, iHeartRadio.
1589
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:57.939
You can ask Alexa to play it or you can
1590
01:15:57.979 --> 01:16:00.020
do what the Wasp Man tells you to do right
1591
01:16:00.060 --> 01:16:00.520
about now.
1592
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.770
InDraftShow.com. Last time we did a show was over a
1593
01:16:04.770 --> 01:16:05.590
month ago.
1594
01:16:05.630 --> 01:16:06.189
I know, right?
1595
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:11.729
Oops. Well, no. Sorry. We did a September 6th show,
1596
01:16:11.899 --> 01:16:14.109
which is technically less than a month, but the one
1597
01:16:14.130 --> 01:16:15.829
that shows up on the main squad is from the
1598
01:16:16.170 --> 01:16:16.949
August 23rd.
1599
01:16:17.310 --> 01:16:21.090
Oh, that was my fault. That was my bad. And guys,
1600
01:16:21.130 --> 01:16:22.869
it's mostly my fault. It's mostly my fault.
1601
01:16:22.930 --> 01:16:25.029
You know what? We can both take the blame on
1602
01:16:25.050 --> 01:16:25.350
this one.
1603
01:16:25.390 --> 01:16:27.430
It's my freaking work thing.
1604
01:16:27.510 --> 01:16:29.130
I blame hockey is what we're doing.
1605
01:16:29.189 --> 01:16:30.430
I'm blaming my job, dude.
1606
01:16:30.569 --> 01:16:36.920
Oh, gosh. Blame both. How's that? It's in the draftshow.com
1607
01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:39.840
If you're on social media, go follow the NASCAR Winston Cup.
1608
01:16:40.140 --> 01:16:43.119
It points things on Twitter. It's better than what we
1609
01:16:43.140 --> 01:16:45.220
have to offer because it's a hell of a game.
1610
01:16:45.619 --> 01:16:46.960
So that's it. That's all for Wilson. I want to
1611
01:16:46.979 --> 01:16:48.430
take care of myself. If someone else has been in
1612
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.090
the draft of Wilson, I want to say some history
1613
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.270
lessons for you here. And first, before we get to history,
1614
01:16:52.529 --> 01:16:58.390
I want to say this. Why even have a baseball
1615
01:16:58.409 --> 01:17:01.029
playoff if the Pope already blessed the White Sox?
1616
01:17:01.409 --> 01:17:02.310
Oh, he did?
1617
01:17:02.369 --> 01:17:06.300
Oh, because? Oh, brother, he said. He's Chicago Pope. He
1618
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:09.560
was there in their last World Series. He sent them
1619
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.800
a note from the Vatican. It's over.
1620
01:17:13.260 --> 01:17:14.140
Unfair advantage.
1621
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:16.380
It is over, my dog.
1622
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.359
When you can pull weight like that, man, unfair advantage.
1623
01:17:20.460 --> 01:17:25.819
But I guess it's good for them. Shout out to them. Anyway,
1624
01:17:26.140 --> 01:17:34.140
October 3rd, we're going to do it here. Um... 2457 BC.
1625
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.020
You got to start early if you want to.
1626
01:17:36.050 --> 01:17:36.810
You got to start early.
1627
01:17:36.850 --> 01:17:38.430
Yeah, yeah.
1628
01:17:39.149 --> 01:17:47.180
Gyecheonjuang purportedly descended from heaven. Oh. And that became South
1629
01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:49.520
Korea's National Foundation Day. Oh, wow.
1630
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:49.960
Who knew?
1631
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:55.060
So shout out to him for descending. Wow. Love that
1632
01:17:55.100 --> 01:17:58.659
for him. happy for him that's pretty uh pretty impressive
1633
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.279
it is impressive to set up a whole nation like
1634
01:18:01.300 --> 01:18:06.399
that yeah uh 42 bc liberator civil war triumvirates mark
1635
01:18:06.539 --> 01:18:11.500
anthony and octavia fight to a draw uh caesar fight
1636
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.380
to a draw caesar's assassins brutus and cassius in the
1637
01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:17.119
first part of the battle of philippi where cassius commits
1638
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.000
suicide believing the battle is lost.
1639
01:18:18.899 --> 01:18:21.319
Oh no was that a cage match i think it was.
1640
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.560
I think so the lions were there uh and there
1641
01:18:24.590 --> 01:18:27.479
was there was the uh the uh the kingdom on
1642
01:18:27.579 --> 01:18:30.380
a on a pole match.
1643
01:18:29.500 --> 01:18:32.079
Exactly they had a.
1644
01:18:32.090 --> 01:18:36.930
Ladder match yeah six six ten uh six ten a.d
1645
01:18:36.970 --> 01:18:40.930
a fleet of uh heraclite and revolt under uh heraclites
1646
01:18:40.970 --> 01:18:44.130
the younger no reef is constantinople but that's nobody's business
1647
01:18:44.619 --> 01:18:45.060
It isn't.
1648
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:47.140
Nope.
1649
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:52.239
The Kuang Dynasty this day in 1683, the naval commander
1650
01:18:52.310 --> 01:18:55.689
Xing Lang receives the surrender of the Tungning Kingdom of
1651
01:18:55.770 --> 01:19:00.050
Thailand after the Battle of Pengu. Oh, wow. Okay. So...
1652
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:06.899
disputed land no more. 1789, George Washington proclaims Thursday, November 26th,
1653
01:19:06.899 --> 01:19:10.079
1789 as Thanksgiving Day. Who knew? I didn't know that.
1654
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.729
That's pretty crazy. Why don't we keep it that day
1655
01:19:13.909 --> 01:19:16.029
all the time instead of the third Thursday after the
1656
01:19:16.069 --> 01:19:21.909
first Monday? Exactly. NFL doesn't like that, but anyway. What
1657
01:19:21.949 --> 01:19:23.949
do we got here? Oh, here's the answer. Low 74
1658
01:19:23.949 --> 01:19:30.600
years later, The last Thursday of November is declared as
1659
01:19:30.619 --> 01:19:34.789
Thanksgiving Day by Abraham Lincoln. The dude on the $ 1
1660
01:19:34.729 --> 01:19:36.510
bill and the $ 5 bill made it happen.
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01:19:36.750 --> 01:19:38.390
Well, I mean, if you're on two bills, man, you
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got some weight.
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Hell yeah, right?
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Hell yeah, baby.
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You got two bills in your pocket. You probably won
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a case against Jennifer Duke. Exactly. 1919, Cincinnati Reds pitcher
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Adolfo Luke becomes the first Latin American pitcher to appear
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in the World Series. It was also the World Series
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that was rigged.
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01:19:58.989 --> 01:20:00.869
Wait, was that the Black Sox scandal?
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It was the Black Sox scandal in 1919. Oh, interesting.
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Hope couldn't help him then. Yeah. Of course, I don't
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think he was alive, but still. What can you do?
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Splitting hairs.
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01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.520
Splitting hairs. 1957, the California State Superior Court rules that
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01:20:16.539 --> 01:20:19.409
the book Howl and Other Poems is not obscene.
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01:20:20.229 --> 01:20:21.710
No, I didn't. I've never heard of that book.
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01:20:22.289 --> 01:20:27.069
It's from Allen Ginsberg. Really? Yeah.
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01:20:27.109 --> 01:20:28.069
The lawyer dude?
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01:20:29.329 --> 01:20:33.930
I'm assuming so. Weird. That's really weird. It's actually not
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01:20:33.949 --> 01:20:35.880
a poem book. It's actually just a law book. Oh, okay.
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01:20:35.899 --> 01:20:36.859
I'll have to look that up.
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01:20:37.380 --> 01:20:40.039
That'd be amazing. And then actually, that's where North Carolina
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01:20:40.060 --> 01:20:45.520
got all the rules. It probably is. Yeah. Space Shuttle
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01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:48.260
Atlantis this day in 1985 made its maiden flight carrying
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01:20:48.340 --> 01:20:54.630
two DSCS-3 satellites. Nice. Shout out to them. Nice, nice. Um...
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01:20:55.729 --> 01:20:59.189
What have we got here? Nadine Gormier was announced the
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winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in Literature this day
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in 1991.
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That's cool. Congratulations.
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Yeah.
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1995.
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01:21:09.590 --> 01:21:14.409
Trial of the century. Orenthal James Simpson is acquitted of
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01:21:14.430 --> 01:21:19.640
the murders in a criminal charge. Later in a civil case,
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01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.640
he was guilty.
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01:21:21.850 --> 01:21:22.920
Yeah, he was.
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01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:26.850
But if he did it, There's a new documentary out
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01:21:26.890 --> 01:21:29.550
about him, too. There is? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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01:21:29.670 --> 01:21:30.989
I might have to watch that tonight.
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01:21:31.109 --> 01:21:36.319
It's about when they did a prank show with OJ Simpson. Oh, no.
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01:21:36.529 --> 01:21:42.600
It's called Juiced. Juiced. I kid you not. So you
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01:21:42.619 --> 01:21:44.260
should check that out. Apparently it's great.
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01:21:44.579 --> 01:21:47.060
Oh, I'm going to have to watch that. Do we
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01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:48.000
know what platform it's on?
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01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.520
I can check. I'll check off the air for you. Okay, okay.
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01:21:52.699 --> 01:21:57.510
You can check it out there. Do you remember what
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01:21:57.550 --> 01:22:00.199
happened when that was announced where you were at? Because
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01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:02.039
I didn't know exactly where I was at when that
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01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:02.579
was announced.
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01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:10.310
I was definitely at home in my parents' house when
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01:22:10.329 --> 01:22:11.989
that was announced. I'm almost certain.
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01:22:13.829 --> 01:22:14.909
I was in gym class.
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01:22:15.310 --> 01:22:15.729
You were?
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01:22:16.250 --> 01:22:17.550
And they wheeled a TV in.
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01:22:18.090 --> 01:22:19.750
Oh, my gosh. They wheeled a TV in?
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01:22:19.770 --> 01:22:24.340
They wheeled a TV in to let us watch it.
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01:22:24.500 --> 01:22:27.819
That is so bizarre. I wonder what the roosting was there.
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01:22:28.380 --> 01:22:30.159
I don't know. Well, because it was gym class. It
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01:22:30.180 --> 01:22:33.640
was sports. Oh, okay. Wow. That's wild. But the funny
1720
01:22:33.659 --> 01:22:37.949
thing is, is that in the overhead PA, after it
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01:22:37.989 --> 01:22:45.350
was announced, a thing over the overhead PA says, attention. uh, Ms. Cochran,
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01:22:46.050 --> 01:22:48.810
please call the front office, Ms. Cochran. And that was,
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01:22:49.010 --> 01:22:50.909
I learned this cause my mom was a TA there.
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01:22:51.770 --> 01:22:55.960
That was the signal that Johnny Cochran won the case
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01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:57.220
and OJ was let off.
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01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:58.220
Oh my gosh.
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01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:01.989
That was the, that was the signal. Oh, Because I
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01:23:02.050 --> 01:23:04.859
think the other way around is if he was sentenced guilty,
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01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.560
we've been like, Miss Clark, please call the office.
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01:23:07.779 --> 01:23:10.079
Why do they need a signal, though?
1731
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:14.739
So the kids didn't say. In Catholic school in Glen Burnie, Maryland,
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01:23:15.149 --> 01:23:17.090
not necessarily you can put over the banner, hey, OJ,
1733
01:23:17.109 --> 01:23:20.909
you quit it. Elementary school kids aren't going to understand
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01:23:20.949 --> 01:23:25.890
that necessarily. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's that. That was
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01:23:25.909 --> 01:23:28.159
a fun. I distinctly remember.
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01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:29.079
That's so funny.
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01:23:29.100 --> 01:23:32.380
Where I was at and the call over top of
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01:23:32.500 --> 01:23:33.560
the loudspeaker.
1739
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:34.619
That's so funny.
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01:23:35.859 --> 01:23:39.909
That's to say in 2022, Svente Paolo was awarded the
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01:23:40.010 --> 01:23:42.510
Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine.
1742
01:23:43.029 --> 01:23:44.109
Lots of Nobel Prizes.
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01:23:44.550 --> 01:23:48.550
A lot of Nobel Prizes these days. Love that. And
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01:23:48.590 --> 01:23:54.159
then happy birthday to Humphrey, the Duke of Gloucester. Oh, nice.
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01:23:54.180 --> 01:23:57.220
Born this day in 1390. I like that. brother of
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01:23:57.300 --> 01:24:01.079
Henry V, the uncle of Henry VI, fought the Hundred
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01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.250
Year War and acted as Lord Protector of England during
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01:24:03.270 --> 01:24:07.390
the minority of his nephew. Oh, that's good. And, you know,
1749
01:24:07.770 --> 01:24:09.909
he had a role as an English early patriot in
1750
01:24:09.930 --> 01:24:14.850
the human scholarship in its context of the Renaissance. Right on.
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Shout out to him. So that's it. That's all. You
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guys have a fun Vegas race. We'll come back Maybe
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01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.039
in a week's time. Who knows? You just have to
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01:24:24.060 --> 01:24:26.779
subscribe and then get it in. And it'll be a
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01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.359
fun time for everybody. But until we speak next, peace.
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Thanks for listening to In the Draft with Wilson and Waz.