Grace Watcher Report - Christian Nationalism is a Result of all the degeneration that has been forced on us

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Bank period is that we have fallen for this great
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lie that Christians having power and enforcing power and will
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is somehow evil or against Christian ethics, when indeed it
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is not. And so what happens instead is we get
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ruled by secutarists who hate us, and they hate everything
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that we stand for. They hate all the ethical systems
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which we promote. They loathe it, and so they do
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everything they can to dismantle it. Half the time they're
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scopping and laughing. They mock us openly as much as
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they possibly can. And I think that the reason that
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this has happens, we've fallen for a kind of a
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great lie. And the great lie is Christians, you're not
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allowed to rule, because that's the most Christian thing you
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can do, is just to not ever be in power,
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not ever be in charge, and to be continuously persecuted
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while society pretends that you're everything that you love, every
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every kind of tradition that you have is destroyed right
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in front of you.
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But then they go, but I'm not touching you. I'm
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not touching you.
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Though I'm not touching you, so you can't do anything.
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And this is the greatest lie that we fall for
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Christians should be in power. There's no reason they shouldn't
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be in power. They should absolutely be enforcing Christian ethics
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as a way of life. There's no problem with that.
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Why are secular ethics superior? Why do we consider secular
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ethics to be in any way, shape or form better
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than Christian ethics.
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Why it makes no sense.
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But what happens is this is why libertarians there's kind
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of I've kind of been at war, let's say, you know,
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verbal war with libertarians for years over.
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This because it's stupid.
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It's stupid to say the world that we live in
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is a enforced will.
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That's what it is. It's will to power. That is
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what's true.
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Now, under Christian ethics, we don't think might is right,
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but we do think that might makes.
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It does make.
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Whether it makes right or not, you know, that's a
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different conversation.
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I don't think it does, but it does make.
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And so if you are going to be in a
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nation and you want to see the Christian ethics that
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you live by enforced, then you have to have politicians
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and you have to have people in powerful position who
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share those ethical systems and are willing to enforce them.
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Libertarians do everything they can to undermine that, and that's
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why progressives end up with power.
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They don't care. I liken it this way.
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If you were to take a libertarian, a Christian ethicist,
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and a leftist progressive, and they all found the sword
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of power, there was one single sword, and it was
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an all powerful sword. The libertarian and the Christian ethicist
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would argue them for a while before they agreed, whichever
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one of us takes the sword, the other one will
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be able to live side by side. By the time
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that happens, the progressive has already picked it up, cut
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you both in half. He's already ruling the world. Okay,
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that's how it actually works in real time. And so
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I just I think it's silly. I think it's silly.
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Well, how do.
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You reconcile then the notion, because I think a lot
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of libertarians are picking up on the notion that we
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live in a society that is that is all about
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the separation of church and state. Because really, the Founding
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fathers were terrified of actual democracy. Democracy is vengeful and
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it's cruel, and it moves way too fast. They created
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a republic, and the goal of that republic is what
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individual liberty. Now, now they also said that individual liberty
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without virtue is you know, is a dangerous thing indeed, right,
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So how do you how do you reconcile what the
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founding fathers talked about, which was the separation of church
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and state and then rule by would you change that?
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Do you believe?
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Well, each one of the colonies, I believe, every single
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one of them had a state religion, and the state
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religion was intact. Even after the ratification of the Constitution,
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each state still had a state religion. Those were dismantled
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over many years after that. The reason the Tenth Amendment exists,
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in fact, is because the government was not going to
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make a state religion. It was not going to make
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a federal religion. So the states themselves are able to
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make a religion for the state. The reason that this
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happened is because he had all these Protestant sects. This
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state had this Protestant sect, this one was Catholic, this
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one was this, and so each one of them had
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their own kind of let's say, national church. But at
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the time, these states were looked at as individual nations
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really under a loose kind of confederation more than a
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union that really didn't happen until later after the Civil War,
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where the United States became really sealed as a union.
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It was more of a loose confederacy before that. So no,
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I don't, first of all, I reject the notion that
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the founders didn't want or wanted this wall or this
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separation between the church and the state. I'm sure some
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of them did, but by and large, no, they wanted
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their states to have independent religions, and they wanted to
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rule ethically based on those religions, and they did for
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a long time.
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Not only that, but if you are to move it forward.
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And kind of think about this objectively, there's no way
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to separate it anyway. Anytime you have a politician who
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says it's in God that I trust and all of
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my ethics come from God, and I'm totally religious, and
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I'm going to rule based on that, how are you
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separating religion from the state anyway.
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Mike Johnson said that. Mike Johnson said, you want to
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know where I stand. Read the Bible?
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You know, right, Why are we so threatened by it?
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What?
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What do you think it is about?
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Is it because it's a misunderstanding of the Christian ethic
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or is it because people look at it a superstition?
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What is it that that people are so afraid of me?
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I want to hear it because why like the answer.
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But I'll tell you, Okay, give it to me. Because
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they want to coum.
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They want to com bro, they want What they want
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is so I've never seen anybody say I want additional
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rights to do something good.
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I've never never heard it even once.
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They're never like, ah, I want the right to more
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responsibility to serve my neighbor better.
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They want the right to coumb right.
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They want to get together with a bunch of dudes
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and have orgies, or they want to get together and
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uh and have multitudes of sex partners. They want to
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have uh, you know, no shame whatsoever in the public
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arena for any of their sexual ethics or any of
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their general ethics.
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They don't want any shame.
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And so what they do is they go, Okay, my
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right to be a degenerate Coomer piece of shit shall
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not be.
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I never heard the expression of coomer. Coomer's into what
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is coon mean?
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You know who Destiny is? Right?
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Yeah, okay, that's a Coomer. Okay, that makes sense.
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By the way, for the record, I like Destiny because
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on the left at least, he he he takes people
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on and he and he pits his ideas and is
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in he's I think he's a lot more conservative than people.
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But I mean he calls himself a coomerer. What it
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is is it's a sexual deviant, uh, somebody who's it's
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complete degenerate. They don't give a shit about doing as
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many drugs as possible. They'll snort cocaine off of a
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woman's vagina and then getting an orgy that night and
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their sucking dick in the morning.
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You're turning me on right now, but keep going, yeah, yeah.
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That's a coom.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, what happens is it's that they the degenerates
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in society. They really want to stay degenerate, and they
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don't want any social shame or pressure of any kind
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on their degeneracy.
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And so what they do is.
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Say, yo, dull, this country was set up so that
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if I want to comb all day, oh my god,
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I should be able to coom all day and who
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the hell are you to tell me otherwise. And it's like, okay, well,
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this is how we end up with mass pornography.
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We end up with.
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You know, kids can go on online and just go, yes,
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I'm eighteen and look at whatever porn they wants. Yeah, right,
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there's basically by the way, this is what Paul dealt with.
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Wasn't this what Paul the Apostle dealt with. He would
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set up a church, he would leave, and he'd come
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back and be like, you guys are having sex on
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the altar.
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No, you cannot.
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You got a bunch of priests who are like, hey,
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you know what, in God's name we got to bang
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because it's a purification ritual. And he'd be like, no, no, no,
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we can't be having fucking in the church. Guys, this
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is you're getting the whole thing wrong. And you'd have
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to write a letter and like reinstate that that's that
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is as old as time.
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And by the way, that Paul's like, what do you
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in here for? It com in here every time?
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And the Old Testament was that all the time the
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Old Testament, the Israelized would constantly fuck up. A prophet
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would come down and goes, guys, you're fucking you're you're
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intermarrying with you're creating these big temples, which is all
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an excuse to bang, and you know worship, you're worshiping
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false titles. It's all a false God. And then finally
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God at the end of the Old Testament turns us back.
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He's like, I'm done with you people. You just don't listen.
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I send down the Assyrians, I send down the Babylonians,
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I send down everybody, and you just don't listen.
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So here it is.
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But it really is interesting because you know, I'm late
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to the value of religion in a lot of ways.
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I always grew up with respect for it.
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But but the amount you learn about today by reading
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the Old like reading scripture, is pretty fascinating. It's because
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they were so human and so flawed. Yeah, well, nothing changes.
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The thing is is that the and I think that
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with age, especially people, when when they rEFInd religion, I
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think it's there for everybody and they kind of follow
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it whether they want to or not. But when they
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kind of rediscover it, when they get a little older,
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their value structures start to change. They stop looking at
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materialism as being the end all be all, and they
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start looking at other things and they realize, oh, man,
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I really fucked up.
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I really fucked the lot up.
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And I felt for the exact same demonic predation as
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those who came before me and my kids are going
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to and their kids are going to and it's this
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kind of endless spiritual battle. And I understand that, but
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I also think that you know, Christians have been in
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charge many times before in history, and they do a
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damn good job. They really do. Secondarists have not done
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a great job. They're not doing a great job, you
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know what I mean. We have born everywhere.
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We have got mental illness, we have depression streets simulating
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sex acts.
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We have people inside of major metropolitan areas walking around
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like fucking zombies who are so hopped up on opioids
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and other drugs that these people can barely stand up.
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They literally look like the walking dead. You have a
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feces tracker which you can use on your phone so
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that you know you're not going to step in shit
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in some of these major, major metropolitan areas. And this
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is considered a progress. This is the most regressive things
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I've ever seen in my life. This is not progress.
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It's the opposite of progress. But people will sacrifice everything,
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everything for unlimited but sex.
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It's madness. To me, it's absolute madness.
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I've never seen any people ever go, I want the
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right to have more responsibility, I want the right to
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have more duties in society. I want the right to
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They don't ever ask for that, but they ask for
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as the rights to expand whatever degenerate activity they're after.
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As I started to dive into this, I realized that
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the acxiomatic principle of all men are created equal, the
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acxiomatic principle of rights themselves, is fundamentally flawed.
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You don't have rights.
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They are a product of the mind and human imagination
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and are nothing more than agreed to principles to keep
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society together. But they're not objective reality. And so what
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happens is people too often they don't they don't think
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about this when when you're talking about what is a right,
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A right is an entitlement absinute duty.
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That's what it That's what it is. That's what it
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has become.
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There are no duties inside of society, there is no
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a duty to take care of your kids, you don't
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have a duty to do anything. And so it's become
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a purposeless society. And the reason is is because we
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give everybody entitlements, no duties whatsoever.
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What's interesting to me is that you you start to see,
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especially it gets my age fifty seven. You you realize
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that self restriction is the only way forward. Uh and
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and you know it's it will visit you. The truth
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will find its way to you. I promise if you
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live a life where you're chasing nothing but your sensations,
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you're you're going to You're going to hit a wall
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and no one escapes that reality. Chaos will visit you.
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You will look you're Chaos will visit anyway you can.
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by the universe or the world.
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Of course.
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But but there's meaning in that suffering. But what what
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I think is interesting is that you're right. I don't
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see I don't see this massive amount of freedom creating
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a massive amount of happiness, creating you know, intact families
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and children that are growing up without the need for
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a lot of therapy and a lot of things like that.
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You know.
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was in Jordan, and Jordan is I mean, the family
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is everything.
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You don't go anywhere you spend like you live with
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thirteen members of your family. When you talk to them
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about antidepressants or therapy, they don't even know what you're
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talking about.
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They don't.
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They look at you like, I don't even know what.
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The fuck you're talking about, you know, I mean, they're like,
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I talked to my guide like that. He's like he
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was listening, and we had all the family there.
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He's got these kids. I love it. It reminds me of
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my house.
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compound and that's how.
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They do it.
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And we have we've gotten away from all that in
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the name of liberty. Now, wouldn't you say, though, that
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there is an upside to a massive amount of giving
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people their own their own autonomy and letting them do
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whatever they want.
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We do have a lot of innovation, we do.
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We are the leader of the world in in everything
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from tech to entertainment to storytelling whatever it might be. Yay, nay,
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what do you think of that? How do we balance those?
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How do we do this? But Andrew, how do we
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balance yeah? Yeah, yeah, the one hundred million dollar questions
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in here?
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Right?
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So kind of let's dive into a couple of things
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so we can untangle this. The first thing is that
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I would ask you to do a social experiment, a
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limited social experiment for me. Uh, next time you're out
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and about and you know you you're engaging with friends
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and this kind of thing, ask him a single question,
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Just ask them you want rights the right to do what?
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Actually ask them? What do you want the right to do?
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And here's what the kind of answers will be. I
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want to be able to go to work, I want
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to be able to raise my family.
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I want to be.
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Able to well, Okay, you can do those things essentially anywhere. Right,
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what do you want actual rights for? What are they
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there for you to actually do and accomplish. Most people
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have no idea, they've never even been asked what they
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want rights for in the first place. Now, the thing
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that's interesting here is that I do think you are
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correct in the idea that having kind of a free
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speech doctrine that seems to be a pretty good idea
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for society. Having the right to own guns, that seems
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to be a pretty good idea for society. There are
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some things here which of course don't violate Christian ethics whatsoever.
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Mostly the you know, the original ten Amendments, they don't
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really have any violation in Christian ethics at all. But
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then we expand, right, this is the problem is once
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we start to expand, well, now we have universal suffrage.
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Universal suffrage is a terrible idea really just because Simon
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can vote, okay, but because if everybody votes right, why
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should an eighteen year old girl who's on OnlyFans, who's
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getting gang banged at night can't sel out your vote? Dude,
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that's the dumbest system I've ever heard in my life.
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It's the stupidest thing that I've ever heard in my life.
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The answer would probably be that they know what's best
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for them.
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They know.
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Well, the idea would be, again we're back to it's
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not for you to intelligence might be compartmentalized. She may
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know things that you don't know. It's hard to start
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parsing that.
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Right.
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You can give everybody a literaary test, you can give
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them a rudimentary understanding. Can you look at the United
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States on a map and all these things? But remember
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we did this with landowners as well.
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Yeah, that was a good idea. Well, the founders didn't
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like universal suffrage. That's why they didn't give out the
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universal suffrage for a reason. They were terrified, pure to mind.
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They said, well, it's a terrible system. It's always been
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a terrible system. I mean, right now you have mail.
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I mean, the amount of fraud that goes on with voting,
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which we all know happens, is it's unconscionable.
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Okay, and we just kind of pretend like it's not happening,
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but I mean it's happening.
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So the thing is is, when it comes to universal suffrage,
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why don't we have a duty system instead? So you
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can do this many different ways. You can offer a
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vote to one house. If you're a married couple with children,
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your household gets a vote. That seems like a pretty
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good system. You can you give your life to the
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government for ten years to civil service and then you
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have the right to vote. You can have some kind
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of pay and buy in via time or via something
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which you're doing for greater society that's giving it some
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kind of net outcome which is good, rather than just
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cooming waiting until you're thirty. You've bracked up two hundred bodies, okay,
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and nope, now it's time to settle down and get married.
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And I'll have my one point zero kids. As the
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birth rate goes into free fall collapse. There's no greater
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duties for anybody. And the idea that everybody should have
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the right to have a say is the stupidest sake.
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I've ever heard.
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You would never allow that in any other sector of society.
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You would never allow everybody to have a say in
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your business. You'd never allow a person to have say
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in your land. You never allow people to have say
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in any of this.
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We do have some restrictions, right, You got to be eighteen,
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you got to not be a felon. There's just certain things.
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You got to be a citizen, right, I mean.
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So they're trying to undo that.
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They're trying to lower the Democrats have been offering up
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proposals to lower the voting age to sixteen years old.
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They've offered up proposals to let felons vote. They've offered
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I mean, it's actually they're going to continue. They've got
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to continue to expand it. They don't like citizens' voting, Yeah, yeah,
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they don't. Once you expand suffrage, they want legals to vote.
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Once you expand suffrage, it never stops. They just continue
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to go, Well.
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That's because the left seems to want to get rid
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of all category, which was a Marxist idea. It's why
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the Maoists all cut their hair the same way. I
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was in China.
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I'm old enough to remember.
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I went to China in nineteen eighty one, eight to anyone,
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and I remember seeing everybody in the same exact smock
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on bicycles. Group think is very real, it's very easy
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to enforce at the barrel of a gun. That's what
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the Communists were very good at. But getting rid of
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any kind of category is a Marxist idea because then
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you can't discriminate against anybody. It was what Darreda's idea
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was behind the non.
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Binary Interchangeable widgets is what you're talking about. All humans
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are interchangeable widgets, from each according to what they could do,
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and to each according to what they need. Right, that's
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the paraphrase, but it's essentially the idea of the interchangeable widget,
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which is man. Do you see them try to push
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the interchangeable widget, which is man and woman?
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Now there's no delineation there either.
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The using the greatest continuum fallacy that I've ever seen
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in my life. Leftists have been advocating that because you
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cannot draw an exact distinction the point in which man
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becomes woman and woman becomes man, they're not any longer
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in separate categories.
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That's the most insane shit I've ever heard.
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It also does water. There's a fallacy for this. It's
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called the continuum fallacy. It's a fallacious form of argumentation.
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It's like saying, because I cannot draw distinctions, all dogs
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have fur, will so to cats. All dogs have tails
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will so to cats. All dogs have eyeballs will soda cats.
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Clearly cats and dogs are in a different category, But
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can you tell me the exact point in which there's
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a delineation. If you can't, then they must be the
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same thing. It's completely fallacious. But this is the kind
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of interchangeable ideology which leftist progressives have brought us and
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that we're currently dealing with. And they hijack the language.
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They say a woman is whatever you know, or any
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man could be a woman as long as they claim
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that they're a woman, yet another infinite regress fallacy.
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Over and over and over again.
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Through hijacking the language, they despoil what we know to
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be truth because we can observe it.
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We can clearly see.
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That transgenders are not the sex that they're claiming to be.
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We can see it with our own eyeballs.
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And yet somehow a huge swath of the voter are
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able to be convinced, mostly women, that we can eliminate
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the category and just fucking pretend it's true, and we
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think this is a good idea. This is a terrible idea.
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This is universal suffrage has to be rolled back. I mean, eventually,
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it's going to happen anyway, there's no way around it.
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Do you think it's going to happen anyway?
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Yeah, I don't think that.
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I think that when we enter into the next one
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hundred and fifty years and we start seeing the decimation
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from the population collapses globally, and this is a big
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problem most people don't realize. Ancient civilizations mostly did not
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expire due to warfare and due to plague and due
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to disease, but because they couldn't keep their populations high enough.
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Is that true.
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It's true they couldn't keep their populations high enough to reproduce.
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So let me give you a great example of this
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side of the United States. Take the Native American population.
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Most Native Americans did not die from elongated warfare with
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each other or with whites who came to the United States. Instead,
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they died from animal husbandry, is what killed them. Opeans
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were able to, over hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years,
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develop immunity to animal diseases which would cross contaminate because
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they lived in close proximity to their work animals, and
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that's where all their technology came from, was their work animals.
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So when this contagion was introduced into the Native American population,
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it eliminated ninety percent of the Native American population in
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about two hundred years. When you're down to only ten percent,
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look at what's happened. They cannot keep their population high
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enough in order to reproduce, ever, to back anywhere near
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to what they were.
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Never they were.
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Primarily hunter gatherers, and when you are when you have
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manure everywhere, there are very dangerous pathogens, and if you
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haven't been introduced to anthrax and the things that you've
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never seen before, you will die En Moss.
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That's exactly right. Yeah, that's what I mean.
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Their population is never going to recover the Japanese population,
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it's not going to recover, Okay, I mean it's going
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to be gone in one hundred fifty years. Is no Japan,
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South Korea, it's going to be gone. Their birth rate
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is less than one, it's less than one per post.
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China's got a major product.
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China's going to lose half of its population by the
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late twenty first century, somewhere around twenty seventy twenty eighty. Now,
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I predict is probably going to be much quicker. The
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U and estimates have been off by millions upon millions
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upon millions of people trying to predict that this crisis
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was coming. They've been way off on their numbers. So
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probably somewhere around five hundred million or half a billion
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people are going to be eliminated from China. And this
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again is why they had their one child policy. Their
494
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one child policy, they decimated an entire generation for sterilizations.
495
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By the way, on Mossus.
496
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That new generation gets older.
497
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Now what happens, we don't have the population in order
498
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to keep those numbers high enough. And so yeah, I
499
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mean many of these Asian populations, the smaller ones, totally
500
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wiped out.
501
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They're gone the next two hundred years.
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One.
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That's why you're calling for women to go back into
504
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the home.
505
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Yeah, well the controversial motherfucker. Yeah.
506
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I think it's a good idea.
507
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I think I think it's a good idea for us
508
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to understand what is teleology or the tilos or the
509
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purpose of people? The ultimate and greatest purpose, whether you're
510
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a Secutarist or you're a Christian, has to be reproduction.
511
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And here's why.
512
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One, if you're a Secutarist, you believe in evolution. If
513
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you believe in evolution, your primary edict of evolution is
514
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to replicate your genetics.
515
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That's what it is.
516
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If you are a Christian, you are given a divine
517
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command to replicate. So both in both orders you are
518
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told to replicate and reproduce. That one's the primary edict.
519
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For the other one, there's also a divine command to do.
520
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So what's happening, though, is people can have all of
521
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the gains of sex, meaning all the fun parts, all
522
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the fun parts of sex, with none of the responsibilities.
523
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That's never happened before ever.
524
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And so that goes back to what if it's not
525
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hurting anybody?
526
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If it does, didn't hurt nobody, and you can't tell
527
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us what to do, So what's happening.
528
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We have a population in free fall.
529
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The birth rates if you scale it back from eighteen
530
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.480
hundred to now have done this.
531
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Now.
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Some of this is due to industrialization, some of this
533
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is due to higher education. But we still had you know,
534
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four four point five, we were still climbing in the population.
535
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We would have stabled out somewhere around four point two
536
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three point nine something like this until the introduce introduction
537
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of birth control and contraception.
538
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And then what happens is, hey, we can coom all day.
539
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There's no responsibility with it whatsoever. So if you could,
540
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if you could kind of envision this world one hundred
541
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years ago where you can have all the sex you wanted,
542
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but none of the responsibility that came with it.
543
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Of course people are going to move towards that.
544
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Of course, of course sheer hedonism what a great time
545
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is probably.
546
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Why kids live in cities, right when you're younger, you
547
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live in cities because you have just more access to
548
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more people, more sex, bars and all that.
549
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:03.000
I think that's probably why people deal.
550
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With traffic and all that congestion because at the end
551
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.079
of the day, the sex drive I want to stronger.
552
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:08.720
Yeah, it's way strong. People realize.
553
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:10.359
Yeah, we want to party, we want to com we
554
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:11.880
want to have a good time, we want to get drunk,
555
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we want to do drugs, we want to you know,
556
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we want to give into our base hedonistic desire.
557
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So what I say instead is this.
558
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I'm not saying that you need to radically reform the
559
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government and even take away the Nineteenth Amendment or anything
560
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:26.880
like this. I don't even think it's necessary. All I
561
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.119
want to see is one thing that want to forgive me.
562
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.039
I'm an idiot.
563
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:31.599
What's that?
564
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:32.839
What is the nineteenth Amendment?
565
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.000
I'm sorry, women's rights to vote?
566
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Right?
567
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:37.440
Okay, yeah, yeah, so I don't I don't even want
568
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to take that away. What all I want is one change,
569
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:43.000
one change in my lifetime. And this is what I
570
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move towards. This is what I promote. I just want
571
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to see the federal government and a federal apparatus promote,
572
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not rainbow flags and skittles, not to promote degeneracy. I
573
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.119
just want to see them promote the nuclear family.
574
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That's it.
575
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Everywhere I see billboard, I want to see mom and
576
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.000
dad with three little kids walking down I want all
577
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of this state propaganda to be geared towards a healthy society,
578
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which is the nuclear family. And I think if we
579
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had promotion at the top scale, just promoting it. Not
580
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the skittles, not the rainbows, not the transgenderism, not my
581
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:20.599
two moms, not gays, adoption, none of that shit. Just
582
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a nuclear family. This is what we want to see.
583
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:24.920
And if you come to our nation, this is our
584
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expectation of you. We want you to have a family
585
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that looks like this, and that's where your respect's going
586
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to come from.
587
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That's where your status is going to come from.
588
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.000
That is the propaganda that we need to be kind
589
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of associating with people.
590
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That's what I want to see.
591
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:40.240
Do you think that's already kind of happening?
592
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Though in a lot of ways, there are a lot
593
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of people like you saying this, and there are a
594
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lot of women embracing that now. So the tradition, right,
595
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:51.079
You've got these images of the career woman. She's a lawyer,
596
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she's doing you know, she's making all the money, she's
597
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foregoing children, maybe forever, but at least until she's forty.
598
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But then you have the opposite me, which is a
599
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.160
woman on a farm with two beautiful kids and a
600
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.480
dog and a vegetable patch now both those things are
601
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.799
rather romanticized in one way or the other.
602
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:11.839
But it does seem like there.
603
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:17.079
Is a push to go back to what was traditionally working,
604
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or what at least people believe gave us the goodies
605
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that we now enjoy.
606
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:29.640
You know, an actual prostitute I argued with once gave
607
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me the best definition of tradition that I've ever heard.
608
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.680
She said, tradition is are experiments that worked. What tradition
609
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.119
is is a group of experiments which worked. And you
610
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.480
know what, She's absolutely right, that's exactly what it is.
611
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.279
It's a group of experiments in socially which worked. The
612
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.799
reason you want people or people are moving back or
613
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.079
they're trying to figure out what this tradition is, what
614
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is it? So they look at sun dresses and they
615
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look at the nineteen fifties or the thirties or the
616
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forties or whatever it is.
617
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.960
They're saying, what the fuck here worked? Why did this
618
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work so good? Why do people get milk delivered to
619
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their house?
620
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I can't get fucking milk delivered to my house.
621
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Why is it that they had you know, this this
622
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.960
family dynamic that could be supported by one income, Like,
623
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.839
what is the distinction here, what is it? And some
624
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.119
people are like, w it's because the society was white,
625
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.880
and some people say, nah, it wasn't because of that.
626
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.599
It's because you know it was it was post war
627
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:24.720
and so we had this big bump and income and
628
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.720
there's all these different reasons. The truth is is that
629
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percent of the country were Christians percent of the country.
630
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Most Muslim countries and most Buddhist countries. I mean, the
631
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.319
Chinese are very conservative, the Koreans are very conservative. The
632
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.960
Ties are actually very conservative. They have this idea that
633
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.839
you have a low birth and a high birth, so
634
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.480
you're if you want to walk the streets, that's your
635
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.440
birth you took. But for the most part, there are
636
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.599
a lot of societies that are not Christians that are
637
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:54.759
also very very traditional and very much family orientated, I
638
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:55.319
mean the idea.
639
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.880
But you have a problem which comes in so if
640
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you take a look at Muslim societies, for instance, Muslims
641
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:05.640
practice polygamy. Polygamy is a destabilizing force in society because
642
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:06.960
it creates too many leftovers.
643
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.880
Christian Muhammad's idea that behind that was also that if
644
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you want to have four wives, go ahead, but you've
645
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.480
got to treat them all exactly the same.
646
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.519
And that's a tough one.
647
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.079
Well it is, but but the practice itself of polygamy
648
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.640
is a destabilizing force in society period.
649
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.359
Even the United Nations recognize.
650
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.519
This, recognizes your mind.
651
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.119
But what's the worst part about it is the introduction
652
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.279
of one man, one woman, one wife, or one man.
653
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.200
It creates no leftovers.
654
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:43.400
So traditionally most men were not actually able to reproduce
655
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:43.960
their genes.
656
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:45.119
They weren't able to do so.
657
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.359
Only a select few were able to and women would
658
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:49.640
gravitate that way well.
659
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:50.599
Due to localization.
660
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:55.039
This was a fantastic thing which happened pre internet, because
661
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.000
you could have x amount of women local and x
662
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.440
amount of men local. They were basically con fine to
663
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.960
what that was, right, and so almost every man got
664
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.519
a wife if he wanted one. Maybe she wasn't the hottest,
665
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.640
but he probably wasn't the hottest, right, right, So but
666
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:14.240
they but there was somebody essentially for everybody, and and
667
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.880
that works. That works out really well, and it creates
668
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:18.559
a stabilizing force for society.
669
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:19.839
Muslim nations don't have that.
670
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Muslim nations also ban alcohol, they ban things like this,
671
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whereas Christian nations don't ban.
672
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.640
So you would you wouldn't ban you would. You're not
673
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.079
for banning women from the workplace. You're not for banning alcohol,
674
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.200
You're you're more for promoting.
675
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.920
Yeah, I'm for using I want to use the apparatus
676
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.480
of the state, utilizing Christians in power, to utilize the
677
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:46.039
power of the state's propaganda in order to reintroduce patriotism.
678
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.000
But the type of patriotism that I want introduced is
679
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.559
homeland patriotism. It's your duty. Your patriotic duty is to replicate.
680
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.599
Your patriotic duty is to have children. It's to find
681
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.440
a wife, it's to have a family. And that is
682
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.119
the stat symbol. That's what's recognized every time you walk.
683
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.799
Into a government agency, the DMV.
684
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.240
I want them to say, Wow, you have a great
685
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.880
looking family there, sir, I have that family.
686
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.279
Didn't we have that? Forever?
687
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.640
And then gay rights came along because there were people
688
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:20.640
that were just they just felt different. They were creative,
689
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.599
they were intelligent, but they happened to just be generically
690
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.319
attracted to the same sex. They fell in love and
691
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.839
you know that's kind of what happened, right, is what
692
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.839
is your problem with homosexuality?
693
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.799
Do you think it's destabilizing. What is it that you?
694
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.240
Is it? Is it that it keeps going into this
695
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:41.400
transgender thing?
696
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:41.960
Is it?
697
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.960
What is it that you? Is it because it violates
698
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.920
your Christian ethics? What is it that you really are?
699
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:56.079
Because sex, for you is a hot topic. It's like promiscute, promiscuity, homosexuality,
700
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.680
these are things that gets you real like you're almost
701
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:01.559
the chaperone in the corner on hey, quit your dancing
702
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:04.079
over there, you know, but you're not. But you're not,
703
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.200
You're you're You're more complicated than that. So talk to
704
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.720
me about how do you arrive at that conclusion?
705
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.839
Has this been something? Do you think that's inherent in you?
706
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:13.440
What is it?
707
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:13.799
Well?
708
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.480
I think that when when I look at the degradation
709
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.240
of society, there's three kinds of ethics which are being
710
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.000
continuously violated daily. The first is sexual ethics. That that's
711
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.480
been thrown out the fucking window. Okay, So whatever we
712
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.680
had for sexual ethics, wherever, whatever decade that was that
713
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.039
that occurred, we don't have anything anymore.
714
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.279
The sixties, the sixties, right, It's like, I.
715
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.759
Mean, they're just gone. There are no more sexual ethics.
716
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.839
The second kind of form of ethics is the general
717
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.519
Christian ethic of law, right, so the the introduction of
718
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:50.279
morality into law also pretty much gone. For process law,
719
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.920
you know what I mean, everything is speeding tickets and
720
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.039
misdemeanors and it's just all process bullshit. Very rarely. Uh
721
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.000
do you see law getting posted fairly anymore? Okay, I
722
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.200
mean it's rare, and there's justice is basically dying out
723
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.839
for social justice, which is not justice at all. It's
724
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.880
an inversion of what real justice would be. And then
725
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.480
kind of the third type of ethics which is gone
726
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.359
is the understanding of behavior of economia or understanding that
727
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.400
there's going to be some cultural prism in which secutarists
728
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.000
are going to have to kind of concede to the
729
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.240
religion of the nation, the religion that they that they
730
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.240
have to live side by side with. They have to
731
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.000
kind of in some way accommodate that. But what they
732
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.839
do instead is they just want to destroy it. Right,
733
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.480
I'm not going to accommodate it. I'm just going to
734
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.200
fucking destroy it so that nobody has it.
735
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:42.680
Right.
736
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.720
If you have in God, we trust on the dollar,
737
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.000
that needs to go, prayer in school, that needs to
738
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go across in the public sector, that needs to go.
739
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Instead of just kind of ignoring it or saying, ah,
740
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it's not.
741
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Really causing any you know, any real problems, it seems
742
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to be a great plication for society. People really seem
743
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to enjoy these, they seem to be part of their
744
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kind of a state of being, and it really helps
745
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with their mind.
746
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They just go, now fucking destroy it.
747
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So when I look at these three kind of things
748
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which intersect, I come to the realization that, yes, it's
749
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true that politics is down wind of you know, of society. Right,
750
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:23.559
it's downwind of your social orders, But your social orders
751
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.199
are downwind of your theology. And everywhere I look this
752
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.639
is the same. So the government is a reflection of
753
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.920
the society, but the society is a reflection of the theology.
754
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.960
And so as you come to that realization, you recognize that, yes,
755
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.960
sexual ethics themselves are super important. All of these kind
756
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.079
of different ethical systems are, But sexual ethics, that's a
757
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.719
means you can see instantly. Right, I don't want eight
758
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.280
year olds to be able to watch pornography, okay, just
759
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.400
because they click, Yes, I maintain I don't want homosexuals
760
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.599
to be simulating sex acts in public. That's disgusting. I
761
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don't want heterosexuals to be doing that.
762
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Either.
763
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These are things in society which I want to see.
764
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And why do I want to see you? Because I
765
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think it's a great stabilizing force for society, and I
766
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.480
think that people would argue against them are arguing in
767
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.440
pure bad faith, and that ultimately they.
768
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Want them as well.
769
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They want to homosexuals or a reproductive dead end. If
770
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I were to give you my magic Wand theory and
771
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tell you, okay, let us assume for a moment that
772
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.039
a wand was waved and every homosexual and planet Earth
773
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.199
became a heterosexual?
774
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.480
What fucking damage to society would that actually do?
775
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.440
Can you think of any damage that that would actually do?
776
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.320
But now let's reverse it.
777
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.199
Let's say the magic want to turn everybody into a homosexual.
778
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.760
What does society look like? Then it's absolutely it would be.
779
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.760
It would just be the Only thing that I always
780
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.960
wrestle with is that there is something wonderful about the differences,
781
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and something wonderful about the fact that people are different
782
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and are on the outside looking in the United States
783
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.360
has always been that place that provided safe quarter to
784
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our gentler spirits or to our different spirits. Those that
785
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love differently and act differently. And that's probably why we
786
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lead the world in creativity. It's probably why artistically, you know,
787
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I mean, Hollywood is full of probably you know, gay
788
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.199
writers and gay directors and great gay actors, and and
789
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because part of it was just that they were. It
790
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was the only place they could sort of it was
791
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the the harbor and the tempest. You know, it was
792
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downright I'm old not to remember when it was downright
793
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dangerous to be gay and the only place you were
794
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.719
going to be safe was in a theater class or
795
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maybe that was just where you could express yourself. It's
796
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a little bit like the great jazz musicians in the fifties,
797
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the forties and fifties. They were black, John Coltrane and
798
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Miles Davis. The only way they could express themselves was
799
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not through speech but through their horn. And thank God
800
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because in a way, that pressure cooker and that oppression
801
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.400
gave rise to some to our highest American art form,
802
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.199
Duke Ellington and the rest of them. So, you know,
803
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sometimes I think that you part of the reason we
804
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.559
protect our our gentler spirits, part of the reason we
805
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keep the government out of the marriage business, et cetera.
806
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Is because it does produce goodies as well, it does
807
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produce creativity.
808
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You could make that argument. I haven't thought it tru enough,
809
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but I'm.
810
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Government is making.
811
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Yeah, the government is intricately, intricately involved in the process
812
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of marriage to the point of absurdity, to the point
813
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where you have contract law which is immediate, which you're
814
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.320
signing on to the second you get married. My second
815
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.800
exchange with Dave Smith, I brought this up and he
816
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.199
ended up having to kind of concede the point because
817
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.440
it's just true. The government is completely and totally biased
818
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when it comes to these marriage contracts against men, protecting
819
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instead women and incentivizing their bad behavior for sexual degeneracy.
820
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This is what we have come to. To say that
821
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.920
the government's not intertwined with marriage is absurd. Now let's
822
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.199
assume we took them out. Let's just assume for a
823
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.119
second we took the entire government apparatus out of marriage
824
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.239
and it became a religious function, which it's supposed to be. Now,
825
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.480
you the second risk you go in your backyard. You
826
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.639
can look at a chick that you want it and say, okay,
827
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we're married, here's your ring.
828
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:03.280
Okay. Great.
829
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.480
A person could have a religious wedding and say okay,
830
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we're married, right homose actuals could do the same thing,
831
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this and that.
832
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.320
But here's what it does. What it does is it
833
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allows us.
834
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.599
To make the determination as to what we recognize marriages
835
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.840
being the people. And guess what the people don't recognize.
836
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.239
They don't recognize gay marriage. How do I know this
837
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.639
because everywhere proposition was put forward for gay marriage, they
838
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.039
basically all failed across the board, even in California when
839
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.840
the people themselves were able to decide that we don't
840
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.880
recognize this subomination. There's no fucking way that we're going
841
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.159
to let you cheap in this institution, which is a
842
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.880
reproductive end, and say that the relationship that you have
843
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.719
with another man, love is love is the same as
844
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.039
I have with my wife is absurd.
845
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:47.840
No, you're not part of this sea.
846
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The argument for the libertarian there just to stop you
847
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.239
would be you could have two eighty year olds, a
848
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.400
man and a woman getting married. They can't reproduce, but
849
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:57.679
they get married, right, So so reproductive the pre productive
850
00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.840
end is something that could be challenged and.
851
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.679
They're sure, but but there's a normative into this. So
852
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.320
for instance, when I say women are the only ones
853
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.960
who can reproduce. That doesn't mean all women can reproduce,
854
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.280
but it does mean that normatively they are the only
855
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.360
ones who can. We have to go by the normative standard.
856
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.039
We have to go by the normative standard. No gays
857
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:22.559
can reproduce, not a single one. That's not even a possibility. Okay,
858
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.320
some you know, bisexuals can do this or this type
859
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:26.880
of thing, but it's actually a.
860
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.519
Pretty low rate, and they very rarely adopt.
861
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.320
And most gays are in open promiscuous relationships even when
862
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:33.960
they're married.
863
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.039
The data on that's pretty clear too.
864
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.239
So the thing is is people go, no, this is
865
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.440
a from a normative standpoint, this is not good for society.
866
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.360
It doesn't lead to reproductive ends.
867
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.880
This is not a thing which I want representing the
868
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.079
institution of marriage inside these localities that I'm in. And
869
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.039
anytime they're asked, they overwhelmingly say no. So what happens
870
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.880
the government says, oh, okay, we'll use judicial activism and
871
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:58.760
just fucking make you.
872
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.320
We'll just make you, we'll just make you recognize it.
873
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:06.039
But to say that somehow that's a libertarian idea that
874
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.079
the government can come in and from the bench just
875
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.079
rule that, oh, you must recognize these marriages. That's the
876
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.079
opposite of a libertarian idea.
877
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:17.960
They're doing the same with transgender rights, aren't they.
878
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.079
They're doing the same thing with transgender rights, doing the
879
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.320
same with all of it. When when left, if you
880
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:26.320
were to say it tomorrow, government's out of marriage, I
881
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:26.880
would love that.
882
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.159
I would adore it. I would adore if the church
883
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.679
regulated marriages.
884
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.960
Again, because then I could recognize them or not say no,
885
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.360
you're not married, you have This is a sham, right,
886
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.800
this is a joke. Get away from me with this shit.
887
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.840
Just because you put on a ring, you abomination. But no, instead,
888
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.159
you're forced to act as though they are. You're forced
889
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.960
to recognize the saying, which clearly is not true. There's
890
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.519
no possible way. Like let me give you an example
891
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.800
when two game ins say, oh, we're Christians.
892
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.599
But what what?
893
00:40:58.039 --> 00:40:59.639
You're Christians who got married?
894
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.639
Really? And your pastor.
895
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.400
Your female pastor who married you you think that that's
896
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.719
within the Christian ethos? No again, so ultimately, no, we
897
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.679
want to look for what is normatively good in society,
898
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.719
and definitely gays getting married is not normatively good. Them
899
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.639
adopting is not normatively good. None of that's good for society.
900
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.119
What's really good for societies? Or promotion of the nuclear
901
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.880
family having moms stay at home with their children, and
902
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.679
having the really intelligent women not building NASA rocket ships
903
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.199
but instead giving us the next generation of really intelligent people.
904
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:35.280
I want the intelligent women not working on math and science.
905
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.280
I want them instead working on reproducing the next generation
906
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:40.280
of really smart.
907
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:41.440
And raising the next generation.
908
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.480
Yeah, you know, it's funny because as I'm listening to
909
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.800
I can see people saying, this guy is all about
910
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.239
controlling behavior and he's puritanical and all that. And then
911
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.559
I'm thinking to myself, that does seem to be a
912
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.880
human proclivity anyway, and it includes the authoritarian left. The
913
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:02.880
authoritarian left has become very controlling human behavior at the
914
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.000
barrel of you know, not necessarily a gun, but certainly
915
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:11.199
at reputation destruction and everything else. So this whole MeToo movement,
916
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.480
the whole idea that you can be a woman the sociopath.
917
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.679
She said, she was talking about being a sociopath, and
918
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.239
she said, the way you bring a man, a powerful
919
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.079
man in is two words, help me. The way you
920
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:28.320
destroy him right right, then help right, And the way
921
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.360
you destroy him, no matter how powerful he is, is
922
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:37.440
three words, you hurt me, and and so that is
923
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.440
a means of control. So you've got the left now
924
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:45.159
that is ushered in their own form of pur purity
925
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.079
when it comes to sexual expression. So nobody on the
926
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.800
left seems to be having sex, and if they are,
927
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.840
it's a dangerous business, isn't it. They've made sex for
928
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.639
everybody very very dangerous. Why because the woman, even twenty
929
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.920
five years later, has a story. You get a statement,
930
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:00.960
and you're done.
931
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.280
You know, so well, I'm not a I'm not a Puritan.
932
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.639
I reject Puritanism in fact, so I'm an Eastern I'm
933
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.840
an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Uh, not a Puritanical at all.
934
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.079
You're an Eastern Orthodox? Are you? Are you Russian?
935
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.480
Greek?
936
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:14.960
What are you?
937
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:16.159
Anioki?
938
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:16.760
Okay?
939
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.599
So the I I completely reject that entire kind of
940
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.239
sect of puritan thinking.
941
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:26.440
I think that it's absurd. But I don't think that
942
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.599
saying wait.
943
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.519
A second, I want some normative ethics in my society,
944
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.079
and I want people who have a grounded foundation from
945
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:34.800
which to rule.
946
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.440
Everybody feels that way, Andrew, like, I think it's important
947
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:38.960
for the left to right acknowledge in the rights of
948
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.320
the US. What you just said, everybody, whether if you can,
949
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.679
you can deny it, but everybody believes that.
950
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:45.880
Everybody believes that.
951
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.480
Now, whether it's man made, which what is what most
952
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.679
people on the left try to try to create, or
953
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.440
it's if if it's dictated by God. Your notion of
954
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.960
what God is, scripture or whatever is another story. But
955
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:03.000
but what you wi said feels like so deeply human.
956
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.760
I don't know of a human being that doesn't believe
957
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:06.239
in that.
958
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.880
In some way, they did well that you have to
959
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:10.719
You kind of have to in order to be a
960
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.360
pack animal. In order to live inside of any type
961
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.760
of society, you have to have some kind of association
962
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:18.760
with it and the things in it that are bad
963
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.800
that you kind of want to remove because they're so
964
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.639
problematic to your various ways of life. Right there, This
965
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.719
is why people defend their homelands from invading armies. They
966
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:29.159
just didn't give a shit that you'd be like, Okay,
967
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.960
you gonna have it, we'll just go move over there. Clearly,
968
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.559
there are things about your locality that have a meaning
969
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.679
to you, and there's things about your family and community
970
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.960
that have deep meaning to you. So of course it's
971
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.880
okay for you to want to govern with your ethical system.
972
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.760
Secutarists do this all the time. They just kind of
973
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.559
make the claim, we're the only ones who can because
974
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.800
we're not religious. We're the only ones who can because
975
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.719
we'll let you be religious kind of as long as
976
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.760
you just, you know, don't actually be religious in public
977
00:44:58.800 --> 00:44:59.840
in any way, shape or law.
978
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.760
Religious. But they are religious. There's zealousn't they There's zealous?
979
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.400
I mean, isn't isn't wokeism and the notion of equality
980
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.440
at all costs and socially engineering equality and this whole idea.
981
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.400
Isn't that its own? It really is a religion, isn't it?
982
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:14.159
Yes?
983
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.800
Of course it's in fact secutor of humanism, which is
984
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.920
the manifesto that most of them are going off of.
985
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:21.559
If you want to have a good laugh, look at
986
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.719
my debate with Matt Dilla Hunty, where you rage quit
987
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.800
in five minutes he did. The reason that this occurred
988
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.320
is because secutor humanism is a religion. But the argument
989
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.719
I use for Matt, and I'll kind of lay it
990
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.719
out here for you as well, because I think that
991
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.559
this ties in really well with the conversation. Let us
992
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.400
assume for a second, that I got rid of this
993
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:47.519
whole God character, this evil, enslaving, immoral monster we call God,
994
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.320
and instead I was a secutarist who believed in total
995
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.519
secular of values, whatever those are. But I came to
996
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.039
Christian ethics absent God. So the the ethics that I
997
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.840
wanted in society were Christian ethics, but there was none
998
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.199
of this God character involved. What's the secular argument against that?
999
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.119
And the answer is there isn't one.
1000
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.360
Yes, I would agree with that. That's exactly right. And
1001
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.360
I think that's the corner you painted Dave into and
1002
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.119
he didn't get out of it, you know, and you know,
1003
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.400
and to his credit he said that feeling I think
1004
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.559
is probably something like God. And then you said, well,
1005
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:26.599
then you do have a Christian view of the world,
1006
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:27.239
and he said.
1007
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:27.840
No, you know.
1008
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:29.480
Yeah.
1009
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.599
So what happens when when the normative ethics are Christian
1010
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.519
ethics but there's no deference to God. So the secretarist
1011
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.079
can't say, well, you get out of your ethics from
1012
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.400
a magic sky daddy sky fairy, right, you go, Well, no,
1013
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:42.920
I get him from the same place you did. I
1014
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.039
just made them the fuck up, and so they're just
1015
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.039
as valid as yours. I made them the fuck up.
1016
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.199
You made them the fuck up? How can yours be
1017
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.280
better than mine? Well?
1018
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:51.480
I don't know, right, you?
1019
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.559
And then you're left with this, Then you're left with
1020
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.920
who comes to better conclusions and who crafts better societies? Well,
1021
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.000
my point to Dilla Hunty is you're screwing a train
1022
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.079
gender man and pretend that that's a woman. How could
1023
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:05.880
you ever say that you craft a better society than I,
1024
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.360
as a Christian ethicist, would craft absent God?
1025
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:11.199
The answer? Who knows? Right?
1026
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.679
You definitely can't be making truth claims. You can't be
1027
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.039
saying well, truth is on our side while at the
1028
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.199
same time pretending that a guy you're having sex with
1029
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.320
is a woman. That's not a truth claim. That's an absurdity.
1030
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.559
So yeah, Ultimately, what happens, though, what happens when you
1031
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:30.000
see secudarists move more towards Christian ethics, even if they
1032
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.599
reject the God character, right, which is what they would
1033
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.960
call it, the God character, the sky Daddy, the you know,
1034
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.519
whatever whatever it is they refer to it as. Interestingly enough,
1035
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.239
when I talk to secondarists and ask them what type
1036
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.639
of ethical system do you prefer, they still move towards
1037
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.679
Christian ethics, they say, I still like that better than
1038
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.039
all of these alternatives, even though I don't believe in God. Well,
1039
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.400
that should tell you something, that tells you that there's
1040
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:56.920
maybe some universalism here that we can get behind. And
1041
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.159
that's why I'd like to see the propaganda arm of
1042
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.800
the state, which is a propaganda arm, just promote the
1043
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.800
values which are actually it would be better for the
1044
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.400
state and better for the society.
1045
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:11.360
Where did you arrive? How did you arrive at this?
1046
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:16.000
Because your your house, the house in which you live,
1047
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:22.480
I'm talking about the intellectual and the moral and philosophical house.
1048
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.199
Has strong foundations.
1049
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.039
You know, I can hit you at any angle and
1050
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.199
you're going to have an answer for me that you've
1051
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:33.840
thought out. Your opinions are based on hard earned you
1052
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:37.079
know thought, and you've done a lot of reading, and
1053
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.480
you've immersed yourself in the best that's been thought and said.
1054
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.840
When it comes to political philosophy, it's very obvious, it's
1055
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.480
very apparent.
1056
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:44.880
It's what I was drawn to you by.
1057
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.880
Regardless of whether people agree with you or not, if
1058
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.079
they're going to debate with you, they better have packed
1059
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.840
a lunch, and they better they better have stress tested
1060
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.480
their own point of view. I think everyone seems to
1061
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:57.639
come up short when they actually try to take you on.
1062
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.840
I understand where they're coming from. Understand that, you know
1063
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.519
the idea of personal sovereignty and and the idea that
1064
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.679
the government shouldn't be involved in my life, and that
1065
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.320
maximum individual liberty is something that I personally hold deer
1066
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:14.400
as well. But you But but when when tried, when
1067
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:19.000
when applied panoramically to a society, you're going to run
1068
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.440
into inconsistencies. You are going to run into trouble. And
1069
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:23.519
that is what happens.
1070
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:23.760
Now.
1071
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.079
Some people are okay with that trouble. They just say,
1072
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.239
that's part of the American experiment. Will battle it out.
1073
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.880
We'll figure it out in the courts. Sometimes the courts
1074
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.960
have a proclivity for the generio Christian ethic. Other times
1075
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.480
they're secular. It's just the way the cookie crumbles depending
1076
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.320
on the voters. Blah blah blah. That made the best
1077
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.920
idea win. But how did you can can you for
1078
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:49.239
younger people? What was the what was the process to
1079
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.960
getting this black belt in logic and in philosophy and
1080
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:54.480
in and in spirituality?
1081
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.519
Because you do have your black belt, I mean you do.
1082
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.760
You're you're, you're you're a very you're a very rare guy, actually.
1083
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.239
And you've appreciate that.
1084
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.440
I'm being honest regardless of what people want to say,
1085
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.840
whatever they want. But at the end of the day,
1086
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.800
you've really, you've really fortified this, this this position of
1087
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:14.599
yourself of yours, and I find it very refreshing.
1088
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.679
So can you tell us how you did that?
1089
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:21.719
I was a fucking piece of shit, like everybody, right,
1090
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.840
like every man in their twenties. Yep, you know what
1091
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.480
I mean. Played the field, I had a good time.
1092
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.039
I didn't give a shit about anything except myself. I
1093
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.440
didn't care about nothing except me nothing. I didn't care
1094
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.360
a bit. And when I came that, yeah, when I
1095
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.599
kind of reflect on that, right, the greatest shame of
1096
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.960
my life was that I thought that I was this
1097
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.519
kind of stoic, impenetrable, I do what the fuck I want.
1098
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:48.800
You were one of God's favorites.
1099
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:50.920
Yeah, I'll deck I'll deck you in the mouth as
1100
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.320
soon as I'll look at you.
1101
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:52.960
You know what I mean.
1102
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:55.880
I didn't give a shit about sexual ethics. I was
1103
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:57.639
a live and let live kind of guy too, you
1104
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.000
know what I mean. The whole nine yards.
1105
00:50:59.480 --> 00:50:59.880
Uh.
1106
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.639
What I was was I was a degenerate piece of garbage.
1107
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.880
And you know what happened. What happened is I got
1108
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:11.039
to see my daughter. And the second, the second you
1109
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.599
get to see another human being which you're responsible for
1110
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.159
for the rest of your existence, and the society which
1111
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.320
she's going to live in or he's going to live in,
1112
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.199
you take a step back and you go the only
1113
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:25.719
thing God that I want is for this kid to
1114
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:32.119
not do what I did. But please anything but that, anything,
1115
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:35.599
yeah but that yeah, And that I think is the
1116
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.719
wake up call. And I think that because so few
1117
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.440
people have children, it's so easy to slip in this
1118
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.760
kind of idea of nihilism and degeneracy. When I saw
1119
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.039
what the cultural left has been doing to ravage the
1120
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.840
society in which I lived, my father had forewarned me,
1121
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.960
my mother had forewarned me, my grandparents had forewarned me.
1122
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:53.480
They all knew what was coming.
1123
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.519
Probably your parents did too, Probably their parents did. They
1124
00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:59.440
all saw the riding on the wall. We all fucking
1125
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.559
ignored them. And what happened instead we let it just
1126
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.440
kind of ebb and flow and seep in, and it
1127
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.239
enraged me to the point where any leftist I could
1128
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.760
begin to take on and kind of vent and destroy
1129
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.280
their worldview and anything I could do. It was kind
1130
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.800
of like nerd revenge in a way. Right, I wanted
1131
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.559
my pound of flesh. You don't give an ambition. The
1132
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.039
one thing about you is that I appreciate.
1133
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.920
Also, you don't give an inch and you do not
1134
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.239
give a fuck if people like you or not.
1135
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.760
You're gonna speak the truth. It's like, here's the truth.
1136
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:31.239
I don't give it.
1137
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:32.719
I don't give I'm not making a left or a
1138
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.599
right turn. This is where we're here, and I'm gonna
1139
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.360
I'm gonna. I'm gonna state my claim and if you
1140
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.559
think you can beat me, you better have a better argument.
1141
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:41.400
That's what I read it.
1142
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:43.719
And the thing is is I wanted I wanted to
1143
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.679
absolute vicious destruction mentally as much as I possibly could.
1144
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:49.480
Uh.
1145
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.599
Now, by the way, the side effect of this is
1146
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.000
it's really fun. The side effect was, Wow, this is
1147
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.320
a good time. This fucking scumbag deserve this and every
1148
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.679
bit of it and more. And what ended up happening
1149
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.000
was that turned into kind of a small show, and
1150
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.920
then that exploded into a larger show.
1151
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:08.840
And this kind of thing.
1152
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.320
But I was always really interested in these concepts. I
1153
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.840
was always really interested in grounded beliefs and things like this.
1154
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.599
I realized that I needed to round all of that out.
1155
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.719
I went to every leftist server, every leftist philosophy that
1156
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.000
I could possibly find, and just listened for hours and hours.
1157
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.280
So important, it's important.
1158
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.599
It's so important to listen to the people you disagree
1159
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.400
with and actually understand.
1160
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.480
Yes, you can't fight somebody.
1161
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.239
Unless you understand where they're where they're coming from.
1162
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.639
You want to be a fifth degree black belt and debate,
1163
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.280
here's what you do. All you need to do is
1164
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.840
one thing, know exactly what they're going to say before
1165
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.639
they ever say it. And the second you know that
1166
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.159
the second, I can predict everything that comes out of
1167
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.880
your mouth. I control you emotionally. I control what you're
1168
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.880
going to say. I control the EBB and the flow
1169
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.599
of the conversation. I control everything. The second I understand
1170
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.239
your worldview and your paradigm. I understand that can only
1171
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.679
go a couple of different ways. I'm prepared for both
1172
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:06.400
ways that it can go. The predictive model of people
1173
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.000
is actually insanely easy when you realize that worldview is
1174
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.639
reduced to only a couple of different branches. Once you
1175
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.320
understand that, you can make predictive models in your own
1176
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.119
head and they usually come true. And so this is
1177
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.719
why you listen, and you listen, and then you listen more.
1178
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.880
I would sit inside of some of these servers. My
1179
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.159
wife would come, are you going to eat down here
1180
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:26.840
while you listen?
1181
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:28.599
Yes? I am. Are you going to?
1182
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:30.519
Are you siria? Or are we still listening to this?
1183
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:32.519
Yes? We are. I'm sick of it.
1184
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.239
I've heard it just hours and hours and now I'm
1185
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.199
not done yet. I want everything. I want every detail.
1186
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:39.920
I want to know what you're going to do politically.
1187
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:42.159
I want to know what your philosophy is. I want
1188
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.360
to know what your justifications are. I want to know
1189
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.079
what you're going to try to do to me next.
1190
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.000
I want to know these things. That's what enables you
1191
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.639
to be very, very skilled at this destiny. He's one
1192
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.199
who understands this very well. He'll sit on stream for
1193
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.960
nine ten hours a day listening so that he can
1194
00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.920
make a predictive model in his own head and what
1195
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:00.880
you're going to say before you s He knows where
1196
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.199
you're going to go before you know where.
1197
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:02.800
You're gonna get.
1198
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.800
He knows what the argument's going to end before you
1199
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.000
know what the end of the argument is. That is
1200
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.400
key in debate, and for me, I've always taken this
1201
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.360
very seriously. I understand that there's tens of thousands of
1202
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.920
people becoming hundreds of thousands of people whose worldview I represent.
1203
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.760
If that is the case, and I'm representing your worldview,
1204
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:21.920
I definitely want to do it the best way that
1205
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.599
I possibly can. I don't give out life advice. I've
1206
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:26.639
never done that. People dm me for it all the time.
1207
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.480
I completely reject I don't know enough about anybody's personal situation.
1208
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.199
I probably fuck them up worse. But I do take
1209
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:33.599
it seriously.
1210
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.880
That my job is to represent a worldview, and if
1211
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:37.239
that is the case, I want to do it the
1212
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.519
best I possibly can do.
1213
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.800
You have a reading list for people I do.
1214
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.400
You can find it on my website. It is the
1215
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.360
Crucible dot video. It's a by Paywalt content sites where
1216
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.639
you can find the back catalog of every debate that
1217
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.079
I've done, hundreds and hundreds of them. We have just
1218
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.760
tons and noodles of content there. If you didn't mind
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a little bit of self shilling, I love it, dude.
1220
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I mean, I think it's I think it's important. I
1221
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think it's important.
1222
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.159
I think it's they'll not only be a reading list.
1223
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:08.199
But what we're going to start doing is part of
1224
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.159
a promo, is I'm going to start sending books out
1225
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.639
to people that I highly recommend we give away. So
1226
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.239
what I do in my merch store, we do sell
1227
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.679
a lot of merch but I bake zero profit basically
1228
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:20.840
on it. And what I do instead is I give
1229
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.880
merch away or I get you know, I take the
1230
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:25.440
profit proceeds so I can give more away. I'm going
1231
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.559
to start doing that with books as well, which you'll
1232
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.840
find on that reading list. So the first thing that
1233
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.199
I would start with, if you really want to know
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00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.880
rounded philosophy, start with Genesis.
1235
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:43.840
Yep, yep. That's great. Well, without you, you've got.
1236
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:46.599
To read the Old and New Testament, and you have
1237
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.599
to have, hopefully somebody, whether it's a priest or or
1238
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:56.239
a scholar, bring you through the significance and also how
1239
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:59.559
the Old and New Testament fit together. And the reason
1240
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.199
I think that it's a very important foundation for your
1241
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:08.119
education is because so much springs from those two those
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00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:10.320
two books. I mean, and you can really call it
1243
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.039
one book, depending on what your religion is. But you know,
1244
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.400
it's very very important because you'll understand so much of
1245
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:21.599
Western thought and Western philosophy and the rebuttal.
1246
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.079
Stems from which stems from the East.
1247
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:26.119
The wisdom books are also a thing which is not
1248
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.559
often people use the Gospels more than anything to make
1249
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.199
their arguments instead of looking at the wisdom books in
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00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.159
the Bible. One of the suggestions that I have is
1251
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:36.400
that you read the wisdom books.
1252
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.559
You mean like Proverbs and the Proverbs.
1253
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:43.239
Also read the Wisdom of Solomon. You can also read Job.
1254
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.800
All of these are wisdom books, yes, And what they're
1255
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:48.599
designed to do is they're actually designed to make a
1256
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:54.199
delineation between what I would consider superintelligence. The super intelligent
1257
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:57.320
people suffer often from creative mental illness and things like
1258
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.880
this nihilism. It's not actually a great idea to have
1259
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.239
a really high IQ society. They would suffer from all
1260
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.039
sorts of mind degradations.
1261
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.440
You see this all, but people forget that, like the
1262
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.519
Roman Empire was was bursting at the seams with Greek philosophy.
1263
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.599
I mean, you know that all the all the aristocrats
1264
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.320
had their all their children were steeped in Aristotle and
1265
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.880
Socrates and Plato, et cetera. And it's interesting that Christianity
1266
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:31.679
found its roots in the crumbling ruins of the Roman Empire.
1267
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:33.800
That there had to be something more. One of the
1268
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:37.000
things that you when I went down the philosophy rabbit hole,
1269
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.199
what I found was that I was in a circle.
1270
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.400
I just kept going in a circle because everybody was
1271
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.159
you know, yes that's true, but how can we be
1272
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.679
sure of that? Yes that's true? But have you thought
1273
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.440
of this? It was one rebuttal after another. And there's
1274
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.280
nothing wrong with arriving at truth through logic or trying
1275
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:56.519
to do so. But but I have you know, I'm
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00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.719
again late to the wisdom of faith. I'm late to
1277
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.159
what you get from from uh those notions of fixed truth?
1278
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:06.440
Because I used to think, well this is that just
1279
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.159
made no sense. I couldn't understand it.
1280
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:12.199
Well, why Christianity for you and not something else? Why christ.
1281
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:17.039
To elaborate on the previous point, the difference between intelligence
1282
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.280
and wisdom is the intelligent person will tell you that
1283
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.800
they can make a nuclear bomb. The wise man will
1284
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:27.960
tell you why you shouldn't. That's good, good, now, that's yeah,
1285
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.519
that's the that's the distinction. And you don't have to
1286
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.039
be super intelligent to be very wise. Yeah, well the
1287
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:36.639
different bad idea, right, Yeah, there's some of the wisest
1288
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:39.039
people I've known. We'll look at somebody who is super
1289
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:44.079
intelligent and say, well, yeah, yeah, but you probably shouldn't, right,
1290
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:48.039
And that's that's that's this kind of great distinction which
1291
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.440
is there.
1292
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.239
So I just I kind of wanted to elaborate on that.
1293
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.480
But but back to your other question, go ahead, Why
1294
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.159
why Christianity?
1295
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:59.599
Why why not Buddhism, why not Islam? Why not Judaism?
1296
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.440
Look at its fruits, look at its fruits.
1297
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.480
The fruits of Christianity from a societal basis, even if
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01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:09.360
you're a Secutarist, cannot be denied. The idea of the
1299
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.559
rejection of polygamy, the idea of the rejection of social degeneracy,
1300
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:19.000
and the idea of needing to reproduce, and also that
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01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.400
you have higher duties to your community and your family.
1302
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.119
These are things which only Christianity universally can deliver period
1303
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:33.039
And the teleology is one which even the secutorists can understand.
1304
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.880
There is a purpose for men, there is a purpose
1305
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.920
for women. There is a chance of fulfillment here. But
1306
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:43.239
you can't fulfill that unless you're following those higher commands
1307
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.519
and those higher duties. And so what happens is as
1308
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:49.800
society has become this kind of materialistic, decadent place, people
1309
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.559
as they begin the rejection of materialism. So I talk
1310
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:56.760
to these multimillionaire Manisphere guys daily and it's so funny
1311
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.199
off camera to hear them go, you're so right, so
1312
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.880
done this shit, this shit just you know what I mean,
1313
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.199
It's not what I thought it would be. I have
1314
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.679
millions in the bank, I have the Bugatti, and I
1315
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:08.320
was still fucking miserable.
1316
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:08.480
Look.
1317
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.199
I know a lot of rich people. Believe me.
1318
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.000
I know rich people, and I know famous people, and
1319
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.280
I know people that have run a life, and it
1320
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:19.880
really a lot of times just isn't enough.
1321
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.599
It's just yeah, well, money is solved, can solve eighty
1322
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.320
percent of the problem. Yeah, right, But what is the
1323
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.840
other twenty percent? I talked to twenty percent? It should
1324
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:30.119
account for ninety percent?
1325
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.159
Right, Well, I talk Joe Rogan is a buddy, a
1326
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:36.599
good friend, and when he signed his second major deal,
1327
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:38.360
I think it was something I two hundred fifty million dollars.
1328
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.679
I said to him. I said, you know, we started
1329
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:42.800
going into why he's so successful, and then I stopped
1330
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:44.360
the conversation. I don't want to talk about that because
1331
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.119
I don't want to try to bottle what it is.
1332
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:48.519
And I said, but I'll tell you this, I've known
1333
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:50.559
you since you were twenty seven. You haven't changed even
1334
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.440
a little bit. He's he's the same dude. And and
1335
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:55.280
he said something. I said, what do you think keeps
1336
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.440
you grounded? He goes, what keeps me grounded? Is I
1337
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.360
suffer every day? I forced myself to say, for like
1338
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.960
my workouts, that cold plunge, all that shit is so
1339
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.000
miserable that I just I'm always reminded of what a pussy,
1340
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.119
what a bitch I am, and how human I am.
1341
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:11.760
He's also he's his biggest strength is also just his
1342
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.320
curiosity and his honesty. Like he's not gonna tell you
1343
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.480
he's a Christian. He's not going to be religious, but God,
1344
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:21.719
his religion is truth. He will tell you the truth,
1345
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.639
and he tells himself the truth at all costs.
1346
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:25.559
It's an interesting point.
1347
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:28.159
Well, this is well, and so from this angle, he's
1348
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:30.760
found he's found purpose, apart at least of what his
1349
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.480
purpose ultimately should be I would say that the purpose
1350
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:36.840
would transcend that probably you would too, but I But ultimately,
1351
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.119
what I'm saying is that as society has embraced the
1352
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:43.159
secular ideals of materialism and nihilism, which cultural which this
1353
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.079
kind of relativistic outlook always reduces to nihilistic approach.
1354
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:48.519
Right, just nothing means anything.
1355
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.800
You're as worthless as all the grains of sands on
1356
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.559
the beach. You're a cosmic speck, less than a spec
1357
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.840
because this universe is ginormous, and it's got zillions of
1358
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.360
planets and it's ever expanding, and you're in nothing.
1359
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:01.599
So what's the point of anything? Yeah?
1360
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:04.079
Yeah, what's the point of anything? Just reduces to nihilism.
1361
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.239
And so what if there's no purpose? What's the purpose
1362
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.440
of having a family, what's a purpose of having children?
1363
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.039
What's the purpose of doing any of this? When I
1364
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:13.480
can just coomb, I can eat druidos, and I can
1365
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:16.119
be an asshole, Right, what's the purpose of any of this?
1366
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.079
That's the reduction that we want to avoid. This is
1367
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.400
the society I don't want. This is the secutor kind
1368
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.320
of poison pill which is introduced that we're trying so
1369
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.800
hard to push back against. No, you do have a purpose.
1370
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.360
Yes you will be happy. You don't need to be
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01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.639
in a coomb pod. No, you don't have to embrace
1372
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.039
all this social degeneracy, these bad policies. You don't have
1373
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:41.280
to embrace liberal progressive idealism and enlightenment principles. You can
1374
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.639
tell them all fuck off, fuck off, and we can rule,
1375
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.519
and we can rule by our own ethical standards. There's
1376
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:48.519
nothing wrong with that.
1377
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.480
Yeah, when I heard Albert Camu said the only question
1378
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.679
in life really is should I commit suicide or not?
1379
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.920
In other words, was like, hey, bro, hey, a French
1380
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:01.000
existentilest fuck off. I can't mark that dude, like I
1381
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:02.920
want to fucking jump off a bridge. But now that
1382
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.960
I've read you, like, god, damn it, give me something here,
1383
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.960
you know, uh, you know, I mean.
1384
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.760
Really, do we have anything? We have anything purpose at all?
1385
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.199
I know I've never I've never understood it. Man, I
1386
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.360
want to be astonished. I want to know. I've always
1387
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:21.800
been a romantic. I've always I've always uh, I've always
1388
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.239
sort of rejected the idea that there was that debate
1389
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.719
between Matthew Arnold and uh Thomas Huxley, who was Darwin's Bulldog.
1390
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.559
And Huxley said, let's let's open and you know they did,
1391
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:36.159
you know, open a university I think in in somewhere
1392
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:38.719
in the north of England that really only taught the
1393
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:44.760
youthful arts, mathematics and engineering and all that. And Matthew Arnold,
1394
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.880
Matthew Arnold, and he said, you know, essentially human beings.
1395
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.039
This was Thomas Huxley said, human beings are just uh,
1396
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:53.360
we started out as a pointy, long tailed, pointy eared
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01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:57.079
uh you know apes and uh and and and so
1398
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:59.639
our job is to you know, create abundance and ef
1399
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.519
fishing see. And Matthew Arnold said, first of all, talk
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01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:06.559
about talk about if you don't teach Latin, and you
1401
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.000
don't teach these useless languages as you call them, and Shakespeare,
1402
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:12.599
if you don't teach art, you'll no longer be an
1403
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:17.599
interesting culture number one or creative. And secondly, there was
1404
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:23.840
something about that fucking pointy eared, long tailed you know,
1405
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.039
hominid who lived in the trees that inspired it to Greek,
1406
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.760
that inspired it to you know, creating things like the
1407
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:37.039
taj Mahal and the writings of Eschylus and Euripides and
1408
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:41.559
the Parthenon and fucking the music of Beethoven and Mozart.
1409
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.440
You don't create that shit unless you're trying in some
1410
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.599
ways to make the world a better place. You don't
1411
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.119
create that stuff unless you believe that there's something like
1412
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:49.840
good or evil.
1413
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:50.360
You don't.
1414
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:53.480
You don't create that stuff unless you're resisting something like
1415
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.599
a bad idea, which is a better example of not
1416
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.199
just a bad idea, but something that that ruins all
1417
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.880
the things you hold sacred, dear and beautiful. There is
1418
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.519
truth and fucking beauty. That's how I look at it.
1419
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.039
That's my romance. That's what that's what gives me.
1420
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:10.639
Nobody's nobody's trying to give to the world if they're
1421
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:15.119
an nihilist. Nobody's trying to produce, really the things which
1422
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.639
move human beings into the action of creating an even
1423
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:20.760
better generation to come after us.
1424
01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:22.719
Yeah, man, there's nothing like that.
1425
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.800
And by the way, art is so decayed, comedy is
1426
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:30.280
so decayed. Anything which is fun and good and gives
1427
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:34.280
a spirited dynamic of community as being fucking obliterated. Well
1428
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.159
as fast as they can obliterate it. They're obliterating you.
1429
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.719
I will send you should come to my next special.
1430
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:40.559
I'm shooting it soon.
1431
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:41.039
I don't know.
1432
01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:43.880
It might be at the Mothership, I don't know, in Austin.
1433
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.079
But it is all about this. It's called false gods.
1434
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.719
And I'm taking on this whole idea because i just
1435
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:50.719
want to I want to, at.
1436
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:51.559
Least as a comic.
1437
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:55.400
Yeah that you got an invite, brother, I'll let you know,
1438
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.320
But that's the idea.
1439
01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:59.039
I just want to. I just I just want to
1440
01:06:59.119 --> 01:06:59.719
rail against.
1441
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.159
I I want to rail against the idea that everything
1442
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:05.400
is everything fuck off there, whether you know it or not.
1443
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:08.000
As a human being, there are lines you define yourself
1444
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:09.440
along the lines you're willing to fight for.
1445
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.400
And yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree with that.
1446
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.679
And there are people try to remember this too. And
1447
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.239
maybe this is another thing that keeps Rogan grounded in
1448
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:21.159
a way, and maybe he's never even thought about this,
1449
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.800
But there are not that many people, though they are smart,
1450
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:29.440
though they are talented, even who are able to be
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01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:34.599
able to produce their worldview and defend their worldview and
1452
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:37.800
push back with their worldview. You can you can do
1453
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.400
that on their behalf. That's a hell of a thing
1454
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.159
that you can do. For people to say, Okay, if
1455
01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:45.079
I'm going to represent this. I'm going to represent it
1456
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:48.159
the best way possible. Right, I'm going to fucking annihilate
1457
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.519
these people, which is what you've always wanted to do.
1458
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:53.440
You've always wanted to give them the proverbial right hook
1459
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:54.159
across their.
1460
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:55.800
Fucking Peterson did.
1461
01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.599
Jordan Peterson came along and gave people the amma we
1462
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:00.320
did a lot of people were like, I don't know
1463
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:01.920
how to express this, but it feels wrong.
1464
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:03.400
You know, this is fucked up.
1465
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.480
Now you're destroying everything out hold dear, but I can't
1466
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:08.639
fight you because you're using all the sophistry of mumbo jumbo.
1467
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:11.280
And along comes Jordan Peterson and said, I know what
1468
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.239
to say. I'm steeped in the trees, you know.
1469
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:15.800
But he can't do that, you know, right.
1470
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:22.079
The thing is is Peterson Peterson was an answer to
1471
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.680
the start of a question that nobody even knew was
1472
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.720
going to be a question. The start of the question was,
1473
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.960
let us assume for a second that there's an element
1474
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.199
of society that is so large thirty forty percent, which
1475
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:39.760
demands that the other end of society embrace a lie
1476
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:43.000
and pretend it's true. What do we do when that happens.
1477
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:47.079
That's the transgender fiasco. This was the start of this,
1478
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:50.880
and Peterson says, no, fuck you, I'm not doing that.
1479
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.520
There's no there's no way, there's no way in hell
1480
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:55.199
I'm ever going along with that.
1481
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:57.199
You can kiss my ass.
1482
01:08:57.720 --> 01:08:58.520
I'm not doing it.
1483
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:00.920
But because he was in the right place at the
1484
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.840
right time to say that, he was also at the
1485
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:10.079
precipice of this massive cultural kind of curve that nobody
1486
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:14.359
saw coming. Nobody would have predicted that the trans movement
1487
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:21.520
would ever have become as unsophisticated and as I'm sorry sophisticated,
1488
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:24.520
and as as kind of brutal as it has been
1489
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:26.079
on societal trajectories.
1490
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:30.119
This is like the ultimate gas like campaign to.
1491
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.880
Try to convince you a thing which is not is,
1492
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:38.920
And I imagine trying to convince this much of society
1493
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.720
a thing that is not is when they can clearly
1494
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:43.880
see it's like trying to tell them this rock, it's
1495
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:46.640
a tree, it's a tree, it's a tree, and then
1496
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:50.520
they just afferment and Afferment and afferment until you get
1497
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:52.800
confused yourself and you go, well, go out there and
1498
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:53.479
grab that tree.
1499
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:54.800
I mean, I mean, I mean the rock.
1500
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.359
Right, This is Petersen was kind of at that precipice
1501
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.079
where that really was about to do its launch off.
1502
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.840
And I think that he was in the right place
1503
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.039
at the right time, and I think that that was
1504
01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:09.279
a good thing. Now, whether you like Jordan Peterson in
1505
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.000
modernity or not, I have no idea, but definitely he
1506
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.600
was the start of the no that no, we're not
1507
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:16.079
doing that.
1508
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:19.319
No, at least for that the stronger isn't it?
1509
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:20.960
Yes it is.
1510
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.560
What's what's happening is or is a massive backlash because
1511
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:27.279
gen Z is rejecting this now they are like, no, no, Now,
1512
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.319
you do have the stats one and four identify as LGBTQ.
1513
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.199
That's true, But due to the polarization, I think it's
1514
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:36.520
some sixty seventy percent are more moving to the right
1515
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.039
than are to the left. Maybe center right, you could say,
1516
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:43.399
but they don't like the shit. No, And and by
1517
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:45.199
the way, think about it, back when you were in
1518
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:46.760
high school, you would have hated this shit.
1519
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:47.760
You would have been like, what do you mean?
1520
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.119
I also think these made up communities like these people say,
1521
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.720
well the LGBT community, Well what community?
1522
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:55.000
I mean?
1523
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:57.760
I don't think gay men have that much in common
1524
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:01.720
with a transgender person, or or a two spirit person
1525
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:02.039
or all.
1526
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:02.319
You know.
1527
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.319
So so, the idea that the media seems to create,
1528
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:11.279
this this body that is constantly being marginalized or victimized
1529
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.600
in terms of as far as they're concerned, I don't
1530
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.800
even think exists. You know, there's a lot of in
1531
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.279
any group. When they talk about the black vote. If
1532
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:21.079
you think black people have a monolig are a monolith,
1533
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:23.079
go to a barber shop and listen to how they
1534
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:25.520
argue about everything. They're human beings like everybody else. That
1535
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:27.520
everybody has their own point of view, their own their
1536
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:32.800
own worldview. So my my thing, Andrew is finally enclosing.
1537
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.239
I do, I do, I am a I do believe
1538
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.439
in individual liberty. I think that's the that's the goal
1539
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.560
of our republic. I think if if the two men
1540
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.359
want to get married, two women want to get married,
1541
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:49.680
I can't see I cannot see uh supporting a government
1542
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.560
sort of a legislation that says you're not allowed to
1543
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:52.920
do that.
1544
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.359
But what's that?
1545
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:57.199
Why not?
1546
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:02.119
Well, because I wonder if that is then the government
1547
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.560
getting too involved in the marriage business. Should it be
1548
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:06.479
completely out of the marriage business.
1549
01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:09.720
I think that that would be preferable to what we have.
1550
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:13.199
But let us assume for a second instead that government
1551
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.880
was promoting the right kinds of marriage, that instead they
1552
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:19.199
were promoting the idea of a nuclear family, a mommy
1553
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:20.119
and a daddy at home.
1554
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:22.079
They restricted which.
1555
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:24.439
By the way, it is is a mom and daddy
1556
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:28.840
at home that yin and yang energy apparently from I've
1557
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:30.960
not done the research, but I've heard Jordan Peterson say
1558
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.079
that there's no question that that's the best environment for
1559
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:34.560
a child to grow up in.
1560
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.239
There is no there. You can never find any data
1561
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:38.039
to the contrary.
1562
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.439
Fatherlessness is a disaster, by the way.
1563
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:44.000
Not only a disaster, but female narcissism is now at
1564
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:46.760
an all time high. And the reason that female narcissism
1565
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:48.880
is at an all time high is because of the
1566
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:51.720
social media and the Internet. What's happened is they're no
1567
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:56.119
longer restricted to localization when they're trying to find a mate.
1568
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.840
So they're all competing for the highest tiermates that they
1569
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.760
possibly can globe believe now, and so if you imagine
1570
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.960
for a second, and this I explained this to Dave
1571
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:06.640
Smith the same way, Imagine for a second that you
1572
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.800
had a superpower from about the age eighteen until roughly
1573
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.199
twenty eight. And this superpower was basically any woman you
1574
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.199
talk to, you just opened your mouth and said a
1575
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:18.960
word to her. She wanted to have sex with you, right,
1576
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.560
and you could manipulate that however you saw fit. They
1577
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:23.800
would bring you gifts, they would give you money, they
1578
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.479
would do anything that they could to have sex with you.
1579
01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:27.960
Would you exploit that.
1580
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.880
It'd be when I was that age, It'd be pretty.
1581
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:31.199
Hard not to.
1582
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.079
It'd be a pretty hard not to, right.
1583
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:37.000
And so what happens when collectively this is realized that
1584
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.840
this is that they can do this right and that
1585
01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:42.840
it works, they spend the rest of their life trying
1586
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:44.399
to recapture.
1587
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:44.439
That as well.
1588
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:47.119
Oh yeah, but what it does is because so many
1589
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.279
men kind of simp and getting these this simple like
1590
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.840
behavior of getting in their DMS telling gassing them up,
1591
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.880
you're so beautiful, you're gorgeous. I do anything for you.
1592
01:13:55.960 --> 01:13:58.359
I just want a woman like you. Imagine the kind
1593
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.000
of narcissism that breed in a person. Men would be
1594
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:03.319
no more immune to it than women.
1595
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:04.800
By the way it used to be, that was just
1596
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:08.319
one letter from one suitor. Now you've got literally a
1597
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:09.960
million suitors, quite a.
1598
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.520
Million different suitors, right, and they can, and they'll fly
1599
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:14.960
them out, They'll spend endless amounts of money. They don't
1600
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.800
give a shit, right, and the whole world is now
1601
01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:20.279
kind of their oyster. So you combine that kind of
1602
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:25.119
female narcissism with modern nihilism, and it's just it's become
1603
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:29.119
so disastrous it is for society. So when I say
1604
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.439
the nuclear family, why is the nuclear family so important?
1605
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:34.079
Well, I believe in patriarchy.
1606
01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:35.920
I think that a man should be the head of
1607
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:38.800
the household, and I think that a woman should fulfill
1608
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:42.000
her duties to her husband and to her family, and
1609
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:45.640
that women should be venerated for doing that, and they
1610
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:49.439
should be kind of excommunicated or pushed back against for
1611
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:51.000
resisting that role.
1612
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:53.840
I think that women used to do this often.
1613
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:55.640
What they would do is they'd say, look, you can't
1614
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:57.079
go out and sleep with a bunch of guys. You're
1615
01:14:57.079 --> 01:14:59.039
gonna ruin it for the rest of us. Are you
1616
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:01.239
gonna ruin it? You're gonna pull up the ladder behind you.
1617
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.800
We want men to court us and we want them
1618
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:05.560
to take care of us for the rest of our life.
1619
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:08.560
And the way that we do this is we keep
1620
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:10.880
ourselves chased and when we get married, we take good
1621
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:11.600
care of our families.
1622
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:12.840
Women used to enforce that.
1623
01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:16.079
Now the enforcement mechanisms the other direction, and it's a
1624
01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:19.800
global phenomenon, and it's become a ghoulish nightmare. So inside
1625
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:23.000
the dating market, men are just checking out. They're becoming herbivores,
1626
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:25.560
as the Japanese called it, which was this idea of
1627
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:27.319
I'll just masturbate and play video games.
1628
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:29.960
Anything is better than this, it is better.
1629
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:33.880
Yeah, I mean, I don't you know. I do think
1630
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.159
that we are not in a good place. We are
1631
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:38.399
not in a good place. And you make a very
1632
01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:40.960
powerful argument for why we are not in that good place.
1633
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:44.800
You know, you've obviously thought it through, you know.
1634
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.239
And I do want this state. I do want the
1635
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:49.479
state to restrict some of this stuff. And I think
1636
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:51.720
it's fine if they do. I think it'd be preferable
1637
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:53.640
if they got out of marriage. Sure, that would at
1638
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:55.800
least be preferable to what we have right now. But
1639
01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:57.920
what would be the best is if they got rid
1640
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.920
of no fault divorce, created waiting time time for marriages,
1641
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:03.960
and then on top of that, you had some type
1642
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.600
of reform inside the justice system to make this split
1643
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.039
better for men. If a divorce does happen, there should
1644
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:12.079
be a show cause for why you have to get divorced.
1645
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:14.680
On top of this, I want to see the state.
1646
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.479
If the state is going to exist, and it's going
1647
01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:20.039
to exist, I would rather see it captured under an
1648
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.000
ideology like my own, so that you can promote the
1649
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:28.199
values that everybody in society actually wants. Nobody's going to
1650
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:32.159
actually be upset with the fact that you only need
1651
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.199
one working income. Nobody's really going to be upset with
1652
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:39.800
the fact, oh, homosexuals can't get married. Who cares, they're
1653
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:41.800
two percent of the popular Who gives a shit. That's
1654
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.600
not good for the normativity of the United States.
1655
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.520
But what's best for the United States?
1656
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.960
One man, one woman, A good family can have a
1657
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.239
cross generational home. It's okay if grandpa comes and moves
1658
01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:52.640
in with you.
1659
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:53.279
Right.
1660
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:56.159
Nobody's saying that that's inappropriate. What I'm saying is that
1661
01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:59.199
the normative state of the nation which I live, I
1662
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.279
want to see some type of ethical standard that makes
1663
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:04.000
sense because.
1664
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:05.800
That is because it's worked in the past.
1665
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.000
That's right. It's an experiment which has worked