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Today.
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I want to welcome Daniel Meredith. He has published cycle
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logical research in peer reviewed journals. Most of his academic
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research was in the area of cognition and creativity. He
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is also a student of ancient languages and mythology and
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has studied Latin, Hebrew, hieroglyphics, and classical Greek. In his
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current research, he is interested in the cultural landscape of
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the prehistoric world. Daniel, Welcome, How you doing great?
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How you doing Chris, I can't complain.
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I'm doing pretty good. And today we're going to discuss
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your book Fallen Stars, The Origin of the Ancient Gods.
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This is great.
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He examines the chronology of the ancient texts of the
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Mediterranean and Mesopotanian world. It even unifies the Atlantean flood
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myth and Mesopotamian with an understanding of Antitiluvian astrology. And
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there's so much to discuss with this. But before we
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get into this, this is your first time on, let
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the audience know a little bit more about yourself, your background,
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and what brought you to write the book.
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Well, I guess I should start by I've been a
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researcher for I guess going on about ten or fifteen
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years now, but until recently, I guess basically until the pandemic,
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I was doing pretty straightforward academic research because I'm a
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research psychologist, so I teach psychology courses in a college,
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so that's basically what I generally do.
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And before that, I studied music.
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But during the pandemic, I had so much time on
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my hands like everybody else, and I was teaching mostly online.
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So I left New York City and moved to New Jersey,
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and then I started like getting into some old interests again,
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which one of was always this whole idea of the
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nephilum and what the heck happened back back then. So
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I tried to try to organize a lot of my ideas.
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And that's really what got me rolling on this, just
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because I had so much time to finally really thoroughly
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research and try to look at all these various texts
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that seem to be articulating the same basic story with
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a few different just perceptual I guess, facets to it,
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which is what got my interest because it seemed like
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they were all describing the same sets of events, just
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who the heroes were and who who the good and
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the bad people were essentially, if you want to talk
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about it that way. So that's really what kind of
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inspired me to write this book. Now i'd answer that, yeah, perfect.
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Before we get into this, she said something that's really
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fascinating to me, and I hear it all the time
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that since twenty twenty, since the pandemic, you had a
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shift of consciousness in some way and your focus of work.
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Changed a bit.
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This has happened to not only myself, but tons of
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other people during this time period. I'd love to get
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your thoughts and sights into why this could possibly happen,
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Why people have all of a sudden just had this
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shift of consciousness. Do you think it's something cosmic, Do
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you think it's something spiritual? What do you think's going
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on there?
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Well, I guess I would take as a psychologist, I
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would probably take this sociological explanation for that, although I
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do think that there's probably some some other higher order
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things going on here. But I think it might be
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a matter of people had a lot more time, and
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time wasn't didn't have to be so economical anymore people
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were home, they might have been spending a lot more
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time by themselves than they ever have, which was the
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case for me because New York City was in complete
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lockdown for a while, so we are all in our
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apartments with nothing to do, and you weren't really even
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allowed to be on the street. So from a sociological
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or psychological I guess perspective, I think that might have
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driven a lot of the other things that you mentioned,
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like spiritual explorations and thinking about maybe where people fit
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in the cosmos, and all these kind of more esoteric
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ideas that flowed around out there. But maybe people were
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just like suppressing a lot of these other interests and
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thoughts because they were their days were different. Everybody's schedule
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just pretty much shifted to working in their office or
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working in there wherever they worked, to basically being stuck
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at home for hours and hours on end, or weeks
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and months on end in the case of New York,
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depending on where you live. But like I said, New
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York was on lockdown for a while, so I can
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use that as a reference to think about.
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But that's what happened with me.
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I had so much time on my hands that my
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thinking kind of changed because it just it allowed it.
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It allowed for it because I had so much more time,
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and I was working online. Instead of being in front
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of people all the time teaching, I was teaching over
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my computer. So that was really a shift for me personally. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's fascinating to see the effects of everything that's
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occurred since that time period. Now let's get into the book.
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Give us a synopsis before we get into the details.
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Okay, Well, the basic synopsis is that I really think
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that the ancient records can be looked at as a
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sort of data set, and again from a psychological or
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sociological perspective, these do represent human thought, and whether they're
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historical documents. You know, there's a lot of like various
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ideas on what these things actually are, but the fact
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remains that they are documents and they are representative of
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people's cognitions and what they were thinking about and what
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they were writing about and what they chose to write about.
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So it is a psychological data set. So I do
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think that they do represent ancient thought, and I think
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that they are a lot of times the only actual
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memories we have of prehistorical events. So I wanted to
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really just try to figure out if these books were
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all describing the same events, whether they were reliable, and
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what exactly they were describing. So I tried to combine
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scientific theory, I guess, with the various ideas of floods,
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which there are a few of them in the scientific literature,
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one around ten thousand BC and one in the Mediterranean
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around four or five thousand BC, and these are known
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as the Black Sea flood in the Mediterranean, and then
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like this Atlantic flood that science thinks actually did happen
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in the Atlantic region that flooded out the coastal Atlantic regions,
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and some people talk about that as some kind of
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younger drives event or melting iicer, I guess. The cause
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for this event is largely unknown, but scientists do discuss it,
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and there are papers written about it that I do
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cite in my book, and I wanted to see. I
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started to realize that those scientific I guess paradigms didn't
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contradict the mythological paradigm, which was that there were these floods.
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And the summary of my book is to try to
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track or create a timeline and try to throw it
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all into one thing instead of having these separate narratives
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where we have a Mesopotamian narrative, a biblical narrative which
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could be considered a Mesopotamian narrative, then a scientific narrative.
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I wanted to see if there was any corroboration and create,
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like I guess, like a grand unified narrative of all
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these things, like all put together. So that was really
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that's basically the summary of my book and what it
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tries to do, create this timeline of all the data
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that we have, considering that these records are a data
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set just like scientific data is data. I love it.
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That's a great way of exploring our history since so
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much of it has been lost and misunderstood and mistranslated
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over the years, so this is fascinating. I think a
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good place to start with the book would be that
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you discussed how the people of the ancient world were,
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their cultures, who they were, Describe how they were very
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much like us, and the ancient biblical accounts other texts
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are the closest that we have to understanding these people.
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So tell us a little bit about the people of
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the ancient world.
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Well, like you mentioned, I do think that they were
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just like us, and they were smart, and they were
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They gave us civilization. They gave us a lot of
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the things that we still use, like writing and our
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language and the basis for our various languages, and the
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culture and a lot of our belief systems come from
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that error. So intellectually and cognitively and sociologically too, they
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were just like us, and I think that we should
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consider them as accurate record keepers, just like we believe
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in our record keeping processes, whether it be science or medicine,
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or even the media and just basic stories that float
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around in our culture. Their documentations of what went on
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during a certain time period. So I look at that
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the same way. So these people were pretty much they
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were just like us. It's hard for us to think
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about that because we think of Stone age and cave
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people and we have these misrepresentations of them that have
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been given to us, basically through cartoons and old textbooks
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and things like that. But these people were not They
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were not grunting and walking around in their nuhls. They
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were explorers and they were smart people. I mean, these
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people were smart, and I don't think that we can
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undercut that or underemphasize that enough. That they were very,
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very smart, curious people, just like the smartest of us
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are smart, curious people trying to do our best to
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figure out what is going on and what happened before us.
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So that's how I look at the ancient world.
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I definitely don't consider them as less intelligent or less
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able to provide accurate data for their time.
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You know, I agree that the ancients had the same
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mental and cognitive abilities that we have now, and possibly
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even better because they remained closer to the natural world
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and the understanding of how the natural world works, then
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we could ever be these days, and I think we've
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lost a lot of that, and that's been somewhat intentional
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and somewhat because of our growing technological age. But it
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seems that the ancients did have a great understanding of
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even their own types of technology even during that time period, right.
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Yeah, absolutely, I think he pretty much nailed it. I
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think that because we live in a largely artificial world,
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we lost faith slowly in the natural processes in the
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natural world, so we built up this artific world that
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we've been living in now, like pretty much fully for
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at least two or three hundred years, and really fully
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since I guess the nineteen thirties of the nineteen forties
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after the Industrial Revolution really just blew up, and we
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have now we have the digital world just kind of
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surrounds us and we're engulfed in it. So it's for
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us seemed to imagine living in the world that they
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lived in. And like you said, they were probably even
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smarter than us because they knew more about their They
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knew about their world, which is our world that we
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had this artificial layer over top of, and we know
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about our artificial layer that they didn't even realize, but
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they knew about their they knew about the real world
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a lot more than maybe we do. But I think
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he really nailed it there absolutely.
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Now you also establish a timeline using chronology of the
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Bible from Adam to Abraham. Tell us a little bit
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about that.
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Yeah, well, I mean that's actually something that I sort
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of took a little bit of a leap on. So
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what I did was I took the date for Abraham,
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and that's really what really anchors my timeline from my book.
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I actually used the timeline from the Bible. But the
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timeline from the Bible is only meaningful in a way
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if you have an anchor point, and I kind of
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call Abraham the anchor point, because everything from Abraham back
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they give you ages for these people, you know, and
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you can go back all the way to Adam from Abraham.
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But the problem is you need to have a point
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for Abraham. So what I really did was I noticed
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that the number twenty one sixty is a number that
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comes up a lot in the Bible and these patriarchal ages,
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and the distance between some of the main points or
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the main events in prehistory of the Bible and the
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patriarchal age from Adam to Abraham and also that number
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twenty one sixty I noticed, you know, because I've been
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really into esoteric things for a while too, and that's
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a very important number two with what's called the procession
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of the ages. So we have this idea that the
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astronomical ages process backwards, like we hear these terms like
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the age of Aquarius and the age of Pisces and
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all these various things, and what that really is is
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that and I think astronomers think it's because of the
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wabble of the Earth that we face slightly different directions
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over the course of very slow astronomical time, so we
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have a different solstice image in front of us when
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the spring, the equinox rises in these various kind of
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equinomical and points throughout the year. But I took that
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as kind of an important signifier because also in the Bible,
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in these patriarchal ages, that number seems to come up
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a lot too. Like I mentioned, like the amount twenty
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one sixty two is the amount of time between Adam
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and Noah. So it's not exactly one astronomical age, but
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it's close. It's only two years off, and then there's
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two hundred and ten years between Jared which is a
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very important patriarch because and Abraham. So Jared Abraham has
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twenty two hundred and ten years, and Jared's an important
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figure because during his time, Jared was the father of Enoch.
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So Enoch was the time of Jared. Is the time
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in the Book of Enoch that Enoch describes as when
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these fallen angels came down to a place.
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Called Mount Herman.
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So we have these different points that seem to reflect
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this basic this time of about an age or about
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twenty one hundred and sixty years, which is one twelfth
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of the grand cycle of around twenty five nine hundred years.
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And then we get back to the zero point. So
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I anchored Abraham since we all have a time for Abraham.
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We know he was from Sumaria. He was Sumerian, from
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the city of Orr, is what the Bible says. So
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we know that much about it, and we can use
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you know, anthropological and archaeological evidence and just the basic
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framework of the fernal crescent, which is something we're all
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familiar with from school to kind of anchor that. But
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I anchored it specifically at twenty one hundred and sixty years.
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So I put Abraham arbitrarily but not really arbitrarily. It
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could be a couple of years off, ten years, fifteen
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years on one side of the other. But I used
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that number twenty one sixty BC as the point to
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anchor Abraham. So once I did that, it allowed me
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to go back and anchor the rest of these people
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all the way back to Adam and give them actual
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chronological dates instead of just having their particular ages. So
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that's how I created the timeline by anchoring Abraham.
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So that's kind of the key.
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And again, this twenty one hundred and sixty years I
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use because it's symbolically relevant and it's mathematically an astronomic
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relevant too, and it comes up a lot in these
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demarcations between these big events in the Old Testament.
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I find it really interesting the ancient texts that you
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used as source material. Tell us why you use these
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particular texts from the Bible, Book of Enoch, Jubileese, ancient
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Well, yeah, that's actually another one of the things that
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I did was I used extra what are called, I guess,
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apocryphal biblical sources or extra non canonical biblical sources, which
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he mentioned, like you just mentioned Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher,
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and the reason most people I guess that are interested
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in these types of things are familiar with the Book
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of Enoch. So the Book of ENoC is I guess
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the most famous of these apocryphal documents, and that's thought
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to have been The manuscripts that come down to us
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are from around two to three hundred BC. So the
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Book of Enoch and the fragments that they have of
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the Book of ENoC are generally in Greek, Aramaic, and Latin,
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so it floats around in those various languages. And the
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Book of Jubilees is the fragments that they have they
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think we're written around one hundred BC. And Jasher there
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are no fragments of those manuscripts. But the books of
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Jubilees and Jasher are cited by other biblical authors, so
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they're not in the Bible, so they don't have as
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much credibility to biblical scholars as the canonical books of
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the Bible. But the Book of Josher is cited in
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the Book of Joshua, and the Book of Joshuer is
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also cited in Second Samuel, which are canonical books, so
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we know these books were around at that time. So
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Joshua was around around one thousand or so years BC,
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so we know that these people were aware of these
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documents that we only had fragments of that are thought
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that had been written down one hundred or two hundred BC,
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so they are much older documents. Then we have proof
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to give them simply because very old documents cite them.
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It would be almost like a Homer cited a document
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that we don't have, we would assume that it was
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around back then because Homer was citing it, but we
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only have maybe a fragment.
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Of it from two hundred BC.
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So it's that kind of logic that I was using
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to kind of give these books some credibility. And they
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all reflect the same story that we read in the
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early part of Genesis, So that famous Genesis six chapter
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that talks about Nephelim and taking wives and that whole bit.
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These other books discussed that same exact narrative. Jubilees and
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Jashuar gives a pretty good summary of it, and Enoch
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goes into great detail about it, how these angels came down,
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there were two hundred of them, gives a specific location
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of where they came down, which is Mount Herman, which
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is a little bit above the Sea of Galilee out
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there in the old Mediterranean region. So these are real
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places that he says these angels came Then he gets
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into this great detail about all this. Plato's account describes
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how a man named Solon, who is around four or
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five hundred years before Plato, so a few generations. I
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think it's about six generations people speculate before Plato, this
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man named Solon, who was kind of like a statesman.
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He was also a kind of an interesting guy that
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wanted to know about things. So he went to Egypt
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and he wound up visiting with some Egyptian priests at
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a temple called Saiez Sais, and these priests told him
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that And the story is the way Plato describes it.
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It's a little bit longer than what I'm gonna mention here,
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but he basically tells the priests basically told Solon that
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the Greeks were a very young culture and they don't
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really know much about their own history. And he described
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them as being infants, and that was kind of like
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a metaphor to say, hey, you guys are very young.
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You don't know what happened back then. He goes on.
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These priests go on to tell Solon that there was
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a huge flood in the Atlantic Ocean, essentially that the
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early Egyptians came from the refugees from that flood, and
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that the Egyptian priest put a date on that time
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of nine thousand years ago. He was receiving this story
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from these priests around six hundred BC, so you're talking
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about ninety six hundred BC was when the Egyptian priests
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were describing that there was this great catastrophic flood that
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occurred and these people became the prehistoric Egyptians. So that's
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why I tried to glom all these together to create
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a bigger narrative, because I do think that these are
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legitimately describing what people actually did believe, and they weren't
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just they were their history. These were their history. They
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believe that this was their history. So when I started
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to put them all together, I brought in the cave
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paintings in Lasco, France and Coscar, France, because these are
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right on the coast of the Atlantic Ocean in Western Europe.
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So I did using all this, I try to figure
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out like a timeline, and if you look at it,
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the earliest if these Atlantean kind of culture did exist
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in the Atlantic Ocean before this, let's just call it
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the younger Driest flood or the Atlantic region flood, like
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the Egyptians described to Solon. If this thing did happen
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and these people migrated outward, the first place they would
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have hit would have been western France. And that's really
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the first symbolic from a psychological or sociological or anthroological
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kind of mindset, that's really some of the oldest artwork
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that we have, and the artwork that's on those caves
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seems to talk. First of all, they're cave maps, so
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there's no dispute that even some academics are really on
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board with them actually being representations of specific constellations like
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sickness and the plightys and some specific constanttory patterns which
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were still very very important after they didn't have the
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same level of prominence in the sky in Egypt and
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other cultures. So that symbolic connection kind of links these
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two very disparate chronological cultures and geographically disparate cultures that
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the mainstream scientists would say, these people they weren't from
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each other. They didn't. There was no migration from Western
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Europe to Egypt, So how did these things become so
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similar if there wasn't. That really kind of made my
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radar go up, and I tried to generate like some
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kind of viable way that that could have happened. So,
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according to the story Plato received, these Atlanteans had a
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number of migrations onto the European continent and they were
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invading Europe, and that made me realize, well, this seems
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to actually line up with how this symbolism could have
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arrived on these continents at different points in time and
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shared the same unifying kind of symbolism. So it seems
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to me that the emergence of these various cultures like
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the Egyptians would have been the latest culture using this
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symbolism around five or six thousand BC, would have been
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about ten thousand years after they arrived in Western Europe.
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Now they seem to be describing the same religious symbolism
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in these images, so I think it's pretty a pretty
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firm inference to suggest they came from the same place
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where they came from the same ideas, you know, and
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just kind of migrated across the plane across the continent.
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Not to get off on too much of a tangent,
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but what are your thoughts on the possibilities that this
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was a global civilization that eventually made its way to
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the America's possibly around the same time period.
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Yeah, I think it's probably totally plausible, because if you're
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talking about people migrating outward and having to leave, I mean,
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I don't it's not my real area. I know that
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a lot of the South American art and a lot
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of the things that are being found there, with like
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these radar scans and a lot of this stuff, it's
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just fascinating, and I think that they're just scratching the
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surface with all that, almost like the surface was scratching
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Egypt in the early twentieth century and people started digging around.
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I think that there's probably an onslaught coming in the
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next fifty or so years or even sooner from the
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stuff they find buried under the jungles and things like that.
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With all these types of scans they're doing, so I
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think there's probably a lot to what you're saying there.
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Also when it comes to Atlantis, I don't think that
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these were like, you know, people that were flying around
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in spaceships and like that. Don't take that stance. I
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do think that they were a culture and culture, but
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not that kind of an advanced culture, you know, sort
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of you know. So I do think that they probably
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may want both ways out out of the Atlantic Ocean.
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Some of them may have wound up in Central and
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South America and even North America, and some of them
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went into the Mediterranean and floated through until they hit
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you know, Anatolia and Greece and Egypt, and first maybe
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had some trading going on with people in Lascow before
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the flood around seventeen or two thousand BC, before the
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priests told Salon. The flood happened around a little before
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ten thousand BC, So they are interacting with Western Europe
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long before they had to leave this island. It seems.
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It's fascinating the discoveries that are coming out right now.
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And you take this book even back to pre creation
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and you discuss your interpretation of the war and the heavens.
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Let's get into that. What is your insights into this.
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Well, I guess there's an every culture about there being
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some kind of war in the heavens, you know, and
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in this region anyway, So the Mesopotamian and Mediterranean areas,
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they all have their their version of it. And the
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Bible talks about the fallen angels, and that's I guess
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the most the most popular is the idea that the
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fallen angels, you know, and Lucifer and that whole, that
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whole thing. The the other tales are Marduke and Tiamat
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in the Sumerian culture, and then we had the Titans
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and the Olympians in Greek culture, and we have all
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these various accounts of this kind of war in the heavens.
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And that's what I can't kind of mentioned earlier on.
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The only difference between a lot of these stories or
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records is who the good guys are. So if we
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talk about the fallen angel version that Enoch records, which
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is the biblical version, you know, the fallen angels and
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the regular angels that had this battle, because the fallen
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angels apparently, you know, they were billed against God and
491
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they were thrown out of heaven, came to earth and
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started dealing with women here and made some kind of
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arrangement with various tribes, likely for some kind of knowledge,
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you know, like how to work metals and whatnot. So
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00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.799
early civilization was based upon some of this knowledge that
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I think the way I look at it is they
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traded women for this knowledge and they had an arrangements
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some of these early tribes for these women and the
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fallen angels in the Biblical account are kind of the
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bad people or the bad guys. But in the other accounts,
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the fallen angels I believe that they are the same
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entities as these fallen angels and the Biblical account, but
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there are the gods in these other cultures. So it
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just a term. It's the same story. It's just a
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matter of whether you're calling them the bad guys or
506
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the gods. Really is what really boils down to, because
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the nephilum would be people like Poseidon and Zeus, and
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these Olympian gods would essentially be the nephilum. You know.
509
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Now you give some interpretations of what's occurring when the
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angelic the fallen angels are mating with human women, and
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what type of entity is created after?
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Right, Yeah, So I think essentially we have like a
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couple of various situations, at least in the Biblical account
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and in the accounts also because we have again all
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these ancient cultures, the Bible, the Greek accounts, they all
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talk about these beings coming from somewhere that were different
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than the typical humans that were around, taking women and
518
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.079
having babies with them or having children with them. So
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the Bible caused this first generation between human women and
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fallen angels. They were called nephelim. So we have one
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version of procreative category, and then we have potentially nephelim
522
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procreating with each other. And I think that these probably
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would have been what the Bible calls the heroes. So
524
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but we also have the other accounts talking about the
525
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same thing. You know, we have you know, people like
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Poseidon and Zeus mating with human women. We have Poseidon
527
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mating with a woman called Clito. And that's the situation
528
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.240
that brought on the Atlantean kingdom because Poseidon made it
529
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with this human woman called Cleito and had five sets
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of male twins which became the first kings of Atlantis.
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And Atlas was the oldest of these ten sons, or
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the oldest of the five sets of twins, and he
533
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became the first king of Atlantis. But then we also
534
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in the Greek stories have later versions of procreation, which
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these became people like Achilles and Hercules, which were not
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necessarily Nephelim, but they were so called heroes.
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Rose were during the days of Norah, and there was
538
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a period that you write about the time of Jared
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where they were interbreeding with animals as well.
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Is that right, Yeah, And that's one of the things
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that is talked about in the Book of Jasher. So
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in the Book of Jasher, it's chapter four, verse eighteen,
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if anybody wants to check that out. But in the
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Book of Jasher, it talks about the same situation that
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Genesis chapter six talks about with the Nephilum taking human
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women and then having I mean that the fawn angels
547
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procreating with human women and having these Nephilim creatures, and
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then later on they're being these heroes. So the Book
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00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:46.880
of Jasher also reflects that same story, except they also
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in that narrative talk about also learned the humans being
551
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taught how to mix different species of animals together. So
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that becomes an interesting thing because they would be called
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chrimeras these days. So we have that also in mythology,
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where we have these kind of goat men and these
555
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horsemen and centaurs and all these kind of various mythological creatures,
556
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even for instance, the Egyptian gods that have animal heads
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or some of the old entities that have these animal heads.
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00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.039
I mean, all this symbolism could potentially be coming from
559
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that same strain of thought. And even in the archaeological record.
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One famous artifact that's thought to be very very old,
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I think it's thought to be around forty or so
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thousand years old. It's called the lion Man of Hoelstein
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I think it's how you say it, but was found
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00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.519
in Germany, which is basically a lion man. And there's
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also a biblical story that talks about the Israelites seeing
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these lion men. So I mean, like there are these
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00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.599
stories that go back into history about these kinds of
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interbred animal human kind of things, I guess is what
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he would call them. But the Book of Joshuer talks
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about about that situation right right, and that was occurring
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during the days of Noah, where the days of Noah
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and the days of Jared, I kind of separate between
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two different events because the days of Noah were that's
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the time of the flood, and we're all familiar with
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I think that story even from just pop culture where
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we know Noah the flood happened because people were essentially
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sinful or bad or whatever you want to say it.
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So God flooded the world, Noah took the animals, and
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then survived the flood. So that was the days of Noah.
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And the days of Noah is referenced in Matthew twenty four,
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chapter thirty seven as its specific period. So that event,
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so you know, Jesus says, if you're familiar with the
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New Testament, so it will be in the coming of
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the days of the Son of Man, so it will
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be like it was in the days of Noah, when
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essentially Jesus is saying he's going to come back. But
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the time of Jared is when the Book of Enoch
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says that the nephil or the fallen angels first came
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00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.960
down during the time of Jared. So Jared again, he
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00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.599
was Enoch's father, and during the time of Jared, that's
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when this animal interbreeding was occurring.
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According to the Book of Jeshure do you think it.
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Was actually interbreeding or possibly some kind of scientific genetic
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experiments that we had the ability to perform at that time.
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What do you think?
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Well, I think there probably had there been some kind
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of voodoo involved with it. He's because if you think
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about it, the fallen angels that first bred with women,
599
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I mean, they weren't humans, so there had to be
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some kind of dicey. I guess you can call it
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00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.320
technology or medical situation or scientific process that had to
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00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.760
be involved, some kind of other way to do it
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than the way that we do it with each other.
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So I think it was probably the same thing that
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was done then there was some kind of other procedure,
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whether it was technological or medical. It was probably not
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through sexual behavior. So I think that's how I look
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at it.
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You know, that's interesting.
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You also break down the decrease in human lifespan over
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very extended periods of time. Could you tell us a
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little bit about that.
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Yeah, this was actually something cool because basically, like I mentioned,
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like really early, this can be a data set. And
615
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.079
one of the cool things about the Biblical narrative is
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00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.199
that they give a lot of numbers, and I use
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00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.159
some of the numbers to anchor Abraham, and a lot
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00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.519
of these numbers people they fly over, they gloss over.
619
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It's just a bunch of long ages. People are like
620
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.079
people didn't really live that long. It's all symbolic, it's
621
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all this, it's all that, and it might be, but
622
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.639
I just took it at face value as if these
623
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.000
people were living differently than these were their ages. And
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I use it as an actual data set, just like
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any good research scientists, like a research psychologist or a
626
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:21.039
sociologist or an anthropologist would analyze data. So what I noticed
627
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.159
is that the decrease in the life spans really started
628
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.519
to occur after the flood. So before the flood, we have,
629
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you know, people from Adam all the way up to Noah,
630
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:33.559
and that's about one.
631
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.199
Two, three, four, five, six, about ten or twelve.
632
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.840
Generations, and that the life spans were pretty stable. People
633
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.039
were living to a pretty lengthy age. I mean, Noah
634
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.239
lived into the nine hundred years, Adam lived into the
635
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.000
nine hundreds of years, and people around that time were
636
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:52.480
all living except for Methuselah or he was the longest
637
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.079
except for Enoch because he was brought up into heaven
638
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.280
according to the Bible, and he didn't really die, but
639
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.400
everybody was living into the nine hundreds of years after
640
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.280
the flood, the age started to decrease. And one of
641
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.440
the things is that before the Genesis six account where
642
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we read about the Nephelum and the fallen angels, the
643
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:16.199
first encounter with some kind of strange or bizarre situation
644
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.119
was with Eve and this like talking serpent. So you know,
645
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.199
that could be Satan, or it could be Lucifer, or
646
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it could be whatever the name of this creature was,
647
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.519
but the Bible calls it a snake. So because of
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this interaction between Eve and this serpent, God says he
649
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.400
basically gives this prophecy that humans are no longer going
650
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.440
to live to be these very old ages. They're no
651
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:41.960
longer going to be immortal. They're going to live to
652
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:46.320
be one hundred and twenty years. And it really took
653
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all the way up to around the time of Joseph,
654
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:54.000
which was Abraham's great grandson, to get to that age.
655
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So from a sociological perspective, it would have had to
656
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.519
have taken in that long because if God just decided, okay,
657
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after Adam and Eve, there's going to be like canaan
658
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Abel and Seth and the first kind of children of
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00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.039
Adam and Eve, and they're only going to live to
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00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.599
be one hundred and twenty years, But Adam and Eve
661
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.800
are going to be in their nine hundreds.
662
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I mean you're talking about That.
663
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Would have thrown the entire generational trajectory into total chaos
664
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because the grandparents would have been outliving their great great
665
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.960
great great great. It would have been just total crazy craziness.
666
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.000
So in order for it to make kind of cultural sense,
667
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.119
it seems like in the Bible and the Biblical account,
668
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God made it take a long time to get to
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that one hundred and twenty year lifespan, which again was
670
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all the way past Abraham. Abraham lived to be one
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00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.199
hundred and seventy five, and Joseph, his great grandson or
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00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.480
his great great grandson, lived to be one hundred and ten.
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So the lifespans after the flood started to really really
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take a dive downward. But the cool thing that I
675
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really did notice is that although the life spans were
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dec preasing after the flood, in the Bible, in the
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patriarchal ages, they give you two ages. They give you
678
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the age the age of the person when they died
679
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.519
and they also give the age when they became a father,
680
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.199
so sometimes this has been called the fathering age or
681
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.800
the begetting age. So if you look at like Adam
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00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:21.719
for an example, Adam lived to be nine hundred and
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thirty years old, but he became a father to Canaan
684
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.880
Able when he was two hundred and thirty. So this
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I converted this. I basically had to standardize these numbers somehow,
686
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and this is what researchers do, and they're trying to
687
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:39.960
standardize a data set so that the numbers aren't it's
688
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.800
hard to interpret, you know. So it's sort of like
689
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.960
a batting average. So if you if you look, I'll
690
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break it down so people can understand that a little bit.
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So what I did here I standardized the fathering ages
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00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:55.840
into a percentage. So for instance, Adam became a father
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00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.679
when he was around twenty four or twenty five percent
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00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.000
into his lifespan, so he lived nine thirty and he
695
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.119
became a father at two thirty. And that again is
696
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.280
the same as basically a batting average. So if you
697
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.639
have nine hundred and thirty at bats and you get
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00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.159
two hundred and thirty hits, your batting average is going
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00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.519
to be like around two fifty or whatever that comes
700
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:19.000
up to be. So the mathematics behind how I standardized
701
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.119
these numbers the same as how people standardize a batting
702
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.280
average or any other kind of sporting percentage. It's basically
703
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.320
a percentage into somebody's lifespan when they became a father.
704
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.039
So what I noticed is that, and this is actually
705
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:36.000
kind of cool, that before the flood, the life spans
706
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.880
or the fathering age, after I grounded it into these
707
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.599
proportions into their life span or percentages, was holding steady
708
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.400
in the mid twenties. But after the flood, although the
709
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.480
life spans were decreasing drastically after the flood, the fothering
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00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:59.960
age was increasing. So by the time this kind of
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00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.119
prophecy of humans are going to live no higher than
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00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.039
around one hundred and twenty years, which again, like I mentioned,
713
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:11.920
took until Abraham's descendants like Joseph and Jacob that were
714
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.519
living to be one hundred and ten and one hundred
715
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.119
and forty seven years by the time they came around,
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00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.280
And this one hundred and twenty year kind of age
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00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.599
limit was kind of in full effect like it is
718
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:27.400
with us today. The fathering age radically increased from the
719
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.360
time that it was around a Adams time, so I
720
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.239
went from the twenties all the way up to around
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00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.679
the high thirties. So like I compare that, and I
722
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.920
noticed that because I checked out the statistics for the
723
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.599
American population and according to the Centers for Disease Control
724
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.719
the CDC in the United States, the current male lifespan
725
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.320
is seventy seven point seven years and the average age
726
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:55.960
to become a father is thirty point seven years, and
727
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:00.760
that creates a thirty seven percent fathering age. So at
728
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.719
the time of Abraham's kids, that percentage was reached. So
729
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:11.400
after the flood, the fathering age slowly started to creep
730
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:15.960
up as the lifespan was creeping down. And now that
731
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.800
fathering age and the lifespan have both been holding steady
732
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:26.239
since Abraham's kind of grandchildren's time. About thirty seven or
733
00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:29.760
thirty five percent through somebody's life they've become a father
734
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.679
and they're living, you know, between eighty and one hundred
735
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.519
and low hundreds of years, So that's pretty much been
736
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.440
steady since then, which is a cool sociological little bit
737
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:45.000
of data that kind of anchors the Bible as having
738
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.400
some realistic effect. After this catastrophic flood, and I had
739
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.840
a couple reasons for that other than God said it
740
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.639
was going to happen. But it could be because people
741
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:00.800
were used to being fathers at late ages, because their
742
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.960
descendants were having children when they were old, and people
743
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.880
were waiting. They were having children at later dates because
744
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.480
that's culturally what they were inheriting. They were inheriting that
745
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.800
culture of having children at a late age, so they
746
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.159
were having kids in their own lifespan later instead of
747
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:22.920
their lifespan earlier, like they're really old descendants were, so
748
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.320
they were using this kind of age bracket like, oh,
749
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.559
it's time to have kids, were getting older. If that
750
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:29.719
makes any sense, you know.
751
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.960
Yeah, yeah it does. Do you believe that these Nephelum
752
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:39.639
were giants were a very large stature.
753
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.599
Well, I mean, I'm not really sure what to think
754
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.719
about that. I think it's definitely possible, and I know
755
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.920
there's a lot of various kind of ideas on how
756
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.480
that could happen, like there might have been different gravity,
757
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.440
or the air might have been different, or there's different
758
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.960
oxygen ratios. But the Bible does talk about when the
759
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.400
Israelites were going into these areas in ancient Canaan that
760
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:08.199
were kind of run by these descendants of the Nephelin,
761
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.119
which by that point we're called repaying. So by the
762
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:15.679
time that comes around, Moses sends kind of his are
763
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.960
you know, Joshua goes into there with some of his
764
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:22.280
other kind of commanders, and they talk about these people
765
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.559
being as big as they made. They felt like grasshoppers
766
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:27.199
next to these people. So I think it's the book
767
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.920
of the Book of Numbers that that mentions that so
768
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.480
these people, and we have also the story of Goliath,
769
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.599
and there's also the images in the Sumerian Canadian farm
770
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.599
tablets that portray the gods as being very large people,
771
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.840
and mythologically they're talked about it as being very large.
772
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:51.360
I think I kind of I'm on the fence about
773
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.280
how large they are. I know that some of the
774
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.559
real out there theories are that they were like, you know,
775
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.719
dozens and dozens of feet high. But I know that
776
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.320
they have found skeletons, and I know there's some controversy
777
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.239
about the Smithsonian and what happened to the skeletons that
778
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.119
were found in our continent here that have been kind
779
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:14.119
of hidden away that were you know, ten nine feet tall.
780
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.199
So I mean to some level, they were giants much
781
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:23.039
bigger than we were. Probably absolutely, I'm not sure how giant,
782
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.519
but definitely I believe bigger than we were.
783
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.960
Now, your book covers so much information, we're gonna be
784
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.840
able to only scratch the surface of some of this stuff.
785
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.679
It's very fascinating and we'll definitely have to have you
786
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:39.519
back on. But let's get to the two floods. I
787
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.880
think this is a very important aspect of this. You
788
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:48.280
have the Atlantic region and the Black Sea flood. Tell
789
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.159
us about your interpretations here.
790
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.440
Yeah, the Atlantic region flood. I kind of went over
791
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.760
a little bit already because that's the flood myth that
792
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:03.920
we get this from prehistorical records like the Greek count
793
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:10.920
and that was apparently taken from these temple priests in
794
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.320
Saiz from Solon that Plato wrote down for us, which
795
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.239
is the story essentially of Atlantis, and that talks about
796
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:25.719
again that these Atlanteans were infiltrating essentially the European continent
797
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.280
at different time periods, and I'm thinking the first wave
798
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:36.239
was around eighteen fifteen thousand BC, and they interacted with
799
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.000
the people that were the Magdalenian culture, which are the
800
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.599
people that put the cave paintings in Lasco, which were
801
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:47.480
clearly shamanistic religious types of paintings, so they weren't strictly
802
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:51.360
realistic paintings because they have star maps and things on them.
803
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.760
And then the Black Sea flood, and again that's the
804
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.800
story we get from the Atlantean description is probably around
805
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.800
ten one thousand BC, specifically from the priests nine thsy
806
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.920
six hundred BC, and that's around the time that science
807
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:11.039
says that something definitely happened around that time and that
808
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:14.360
closed out what's known now as the Younger Driest period
809
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.480
at the very very end of the Plaistocene. So that's plausible,
810
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.599
and that's probably what did occur on some level. I
811
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.559
think it's just a matter of how that occurred. Some scientists,
812
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.280
I think I think it's that it was some kind
813
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.280
of comet or a meteor or and some think it
814
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.599
was a melting ice or a combination of both. I'm
815
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.639
not really sure if there's any consensus on how that happened,
816
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.119
but I think there is a rising belief that it
817
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.800
did happen amongst the scientists. And the Black Sea flood
818
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.480
I think is not really in dispute. I think that
819
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.599
there's firm evidence for that in the scientific community, and
820
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.559
that's thought to have happened around four or five thousand BC.
821
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.159
So that, I think is something that they basically talk
822
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:01.000
about the Mediterranean flooding over and linking up with the
823
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.559
Black Sea and flooding out that whole Mediterranean region along
824
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:10.119
Judea and Canaan, and that whole area that again Turkey
825
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.840
and Asia Minor because of Black Sea flooded over and
826
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.480
that's known as in the scientific communities as the Black
827
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:21.840
Sea flood. And that lines up with what's talked about
828
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.559
in the Atrajesis, which is where we get the legend
829
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:29.360
of Gilgamesh. And Gilgamesh was essentially the grandson of a
830
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:34.519
flood survivor named that Pishtan, who is the Samerian flood survivor,
831
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.199
and we have the Greek account from the we have Ducalion,
832
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:41.440
who is the flood survivor in the Greek account. So
833
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.880
all the Mediterranean cultures have this flood story and they
834
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:48.559
all talk about their particular survivor and the cultures that
835
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:54.320
that survivor fathered. And again it's it's at Pistan in
836
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.159
the Sumerian myth and Dukalion in the in the Greek story.
837
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.480
And then these people are similar to the figure named
838
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.000
Noah in the biblical account, and this was probably the
839
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.519
Black Sea flood. So there are the two different floods.
840
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.360
It seems like these floods also coincide with the very
841
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.639
peak rise of a civilization, and then we see the
842
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:20.280
fall of the civilization. Do you think that that is
843
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:26.719
the case and that these are natural? Are something caused
844
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:32.400
the events something of a cosmic nature or spiritual nature?
845
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:36.880
Well, I guess that's like the million dollar question.
846
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.480
I guess the scientific part of me wants to believe
847
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:42.840
that it was some kind of natural event, but the
848
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.639
records all talk about it being a spiritual event, because
849
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.840
in the Atlantic version that Plato records, he simply says
850
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.280
that the gods did it. Essentially, Zeus flooded Atlantis because
851
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.039
Beside and tried to invade Zeus's territory, which at that
852
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:01.039
point was Greece. So we had these two olymp being gods,
853
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.320
which are Zeus and Poseidon. And basically what we're talking
854
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.760
about here in the in the Atlantics story or the
855
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:11.320
Atlantis story that Plato records from these priests, we have
856
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:17.079
Poseidon attacking Zeus's culture and then Zeus creating this big
857
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.400
flood to flood out Poseidon's kingdom, and then that corroborates
858
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.320
the same version that we have in the biblical account
859
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.400
where God flooded the Mediterranean region because people were again
860
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.880
being sinners or being bad.
861
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:34.760
So that's the spiritual angle.
862
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:36.880
I guess I'm really on the fence about it. I
863
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.480
think it's probably I believe. I definitely am a person
864
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.280
that believes in God, so I think that it wasn't
865
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.519
some kind of magic trick. I definitely think God uses
866
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:53.119
natural means to perform his will just like that. I
867
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.920
think nature is essentially God's handiwork. So even if it
868
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.280
was a comet, or if it was a volcano or
869
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.960
whatever these various theories are that would prescribe a cause
870
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.840
to it, I have no problem thinking that that could
871
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:11.760
have been God to and that would kind of combine
872
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:14.800
the spiritual and the natural kind of versions of those
873
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:18.920
of those stories. It also seems like there are like
874
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:22.360
if you look at like go Beckley Tepe and things
875
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.599
like that, it does seem like and I know that
876
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.880
scientists say that called Beckley Tepe was probably buried on purpose,
877
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.039
and that's how it got buried in sand until it
878
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.960
was rediscovered, you know, not that long ago, maybe like
879
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:39.199
you know, twenty years ago, and that kind of jobs.
880
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.159
With this Black Sea flood that would have flooded out
881
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.679
that entire area. So I mean, in my version of accounts,
882
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.159
these Atlanteans that were invading Europe god as far as
883
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.159
go Beckley, Tepe, and also again like I mentioned, they
884
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.000
first would have hit the western side of Europe and
885
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.280
they would have infiltrated in Plato says they got to
886
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.159
Greece and the Green Weeks. Actually, one of the interesting
887
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.519
thing about the account that the Greeks record or played
888
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.440
over records that he said he got from Solon, is
889
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:12.400
that the Egyptian priests told the Greeks that the Greeks
890
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:16.639
actually saved Egypt from this invasion because the Greeks were
891
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.920
able to fight them off before they completely invaded Egypt.
892
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.760
So even though the story comes from Egypt, the Egyptian
893
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.360
priests were telling the Greeks that you were the ones
894
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:32.119
that saved these invaders from making their way further in
895
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:36.159
to the continent. So that's an odd thing to have
896
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.119
embedded into that story. But these people in my book
897
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.840
would have been the same ones that probably built go
898
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:47.920
Beecley Tepe, and also the same people. All these people.
899
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.840
Essentially it would have been the people that in the
900
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.480
Bible when Cain talks about like after Cain kills Abel,
901
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.079
you know, God says, I'm going to exile you from
902
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.559
the Garden of Eden, and then Cain starts to cry
903
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.320
to God saying, you can't do this. The other people
904
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.440
are gonna kill me if they find me. And you know,
905
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.760
a strict Biblical fundamentalist believe Cain and Able were the
906
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.800
only people on the planet because there's no other people.
907
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:13.840
But I don't necessarily believe that, you know, I look
908
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.840
at from a more Catholic perspective where science is is
909
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.960
also true, and these other people that Cain would have
910
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.760
been afraid of were probably these invaders that were the
911
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.400
people that were the culture that bil goe Beckley Tepe,
912
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.760
the people that the Egyptian priests were communicating to Solon
913
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.599
that were invading the European continent and were known to
914
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.960
be hostile people in the entire region. And I think
915
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:41.880
that that little kind of insertion into the Biblical account
916
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.199
verifies a lot of this.
917
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:51.119
Now, let's get to the astrology of those ages and
918
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:54.480
how they connect with the events that you're describing.
919
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:00.280
The astrology is very interesting because on one of the
920
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:08.679
main connections is this idea of the polestar circumnavigating around.
921
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:14.079
So we have currently Polaris, which is currently our polestar,
922
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:18.400
and this is a big key to this entire situation
923
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:24.000
and it really gives it some some substance because our
924
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.800
polestar is currently Polaris. It's not quite Polarists, but that's
925
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:29.639
what we use as our pulstar the north. The north
926
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:34.440
star is Polaris. Back during the time of Lasco France,
927
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:39.440
it was dan Eb and Vega, which are stars that
928
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:45.320
are painted into some of the murals, specifically the mural
929
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.199
known as the dead Man's Gallery in Lasco France. So
930
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.599
it's not unusual why they would have painted that because
931
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.480
that star doesn't move and the entire night sky, the
932
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:01.559
entire sky seems to rotate around that star. So in
933
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:06.920
the Egyptian literature this is called the immovable place, and
934
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.880
that's where they thought the gods lived. And during the
935
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:16.280
Egyptian time, it was no longer Vega and Daneb. It
936
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:21.960
was Thubin, which is in Draconis. So this polestar circles around,
937
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.039
and we have this kind of pattern that every and
938
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.400
this follows the same pattern as the procession of the equinoxes,
939
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.000
so every like twenty five thousand or so years we
940
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:35.280
wind up at the same point in this rotation. So
941
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.679
these north stars, like for instance, the one that was
942
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.639
centered and unmoving during the time of the Magdalenian culture
943
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:50.480
in western France around twenty thousand BC to around fifteen
944
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:54.280
thousand BC, these would have been Vega and Dneb, which
945
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:59.920
is part of again appears to be part of their
946
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.400
their worldview because these were painted into these paintings in
947
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:09.039
these caves. The interesting thing is that the Egyptians moved
948
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:14.920
away from that, and they still really revered the north
949
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:18.400
star because they still called it the immovable place where
950
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.039
their gods lived their nature, which is what the Egyptians
951
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.920
call their gods. But their north star was Thube. And
952
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.280
so in the mural at Lasco, one of the on
953
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.400
the one that I really ground this theory in is
954
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:34.199
the dead man, which is basically this image of this
955
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.760
man with a bird, a beaked head and an erection,
956
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:42.440
and next to him is a couple other things like
957
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.119
a bull and this bird on a pole and then
958
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:50.320
this little like arrow looking thing next to him. Now,
959
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:55.800
the interesting thing is that this lines up with the
960
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.320
north region of Earth at that time. So we have
961
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:05.320
this bull's eye in this picture that's seventeen thousand years
962
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:10.440
old by all accounts, by all archaeological dating, which is
963
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.320
thought to be Vega. And we also have the bird
964
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:16.280
eye which is thought to be DANEB. I mean not
965
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.920
the bird, either the eye in the birdman or the
966
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.760
eye and the beaked headed man in this dead man mural.
967
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.400
And he also has an erect penis, which is another
968
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.719
odd thing to put in there. So we had this
969
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.599
man with a bird's head. And the interesting thing is
970
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:38.039
that DANEB is part of a constellation Sickness, which flies
971
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:44.559
along the Milky Way. So this idea, this what I'm
972
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:45.960
going to just go out there and say, is this
973
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.119
religious idea or this religious concept that seems to be
974
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:54.119
painted into this cave art that this dead man with
975
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:58.880
this phallus, that we're flying along the Milky Way into
976
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.880
the northern region where the star didn't move, where the
977
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:08.039
entire sky seemed to rotate around, had incredible significance back then.
978
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.239
Now I kind of line these other images up like
979
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.239
the bird on the stick and these other things with
980
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.559
other constellations. So this clearly is the skymap of the
981
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:23.440
skymap of that region. But this comes down over ten, twelve,
982
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.800
thirteen thousand years later in Egypt, because the Egyptians still
983
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:32.760
believe their gods live in the immovable star, in the
984
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:38.400
immovable place, the North Star, but they no longer. They
985
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.760
kind of added to it, they embellished it a little
986
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:42.719
bit more. So we don't know what these ancient people
987
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.639
believe because they didn't write it down, they only painted it.
988
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.920
But we know exactly what the Egyptian believe.
989
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.000
Which is that when somebody died, well not somebody an
990
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:54.559
elite like a pharaoh or a god man, they went
991
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.239
to the constellation Orion. Then they went underneath the earth
992
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.719
into the underworld, what they called the nether world, and
993
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.480
then they rose up as the swan and floated along
994
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:08.760
the Milky Way and went into the center of the
995
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.199
of the galaxy. So they still considered this star Dneb
996
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.000
and this constellation Sickness incredibly important because that's how you
997
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.840
got into the center of the Milky Way, and then
998
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.320
from there you entered into this kingdom of the gods.
999
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:30.159
So this idea seems to have moved through fifteen or
1000
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:34.079
so thousand years with no real physical connection between these
1001
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:34.800
two cultures.
1002
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:37.280
That's what I lay the ground.
1003
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.400
That's what I really try to nail down, that this
1004
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.960
had to have come from a similar place.
1005
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:47.559
Do you think that our ancients saw a different view
1006
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.559
of the sky than we do now when it comes
1007
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:54.000
to the position of the stars and even planets.
1008
01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:00.639
While the planets definitely move, and that's how the early
1009
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.320
Greeks the word planao means a moving stars, so that
1010
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.639
and that's what that we get that term planet from
1011
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.239
the Greek term because the Greek started and the Sumerians
1012
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:14.039
started to notice that some of the stars moved around,
1013
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:19.239
but the fixed stars, what's typically called the firmament. These stars,
1014
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:25.039
they don't particularly move amongst themselves, they say, they move
1015
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:28.320
from our perspective. So we see them different as we
1016
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:31.360
move through this processional cycle, just like we see a
1017
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.480
different North star, we see a different sky, a star
1018
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.480
in the north that all the other stars seem to
1019
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:42.000
rotate around. That's like sometimes called the axis moonde or
1020
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.719
the axis of the Earth and all these other things.
1021
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:49.239
So we see a different perspective of the same Sky.
1022
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.679
Yeah, this is fascinating, Daniel. Is there anything else that
1023
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.960
you would like to close on, any points that we
1024
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.320
didn't cover that you think may be important to close
1025
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:01.079
out on today.
1026
01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:06.599
Well, I think we covered the basic nuts and bulks,
1027
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:11.360
nuts and bolts of my entire book, essentially some background,
1028
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:13.920
and then the really like take on point was that
1029
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:18.440
these cultures seem to have come from some common origin,
1030
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:22.000
and the earliest kind of whiff of it, or the
1031
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:27.800
earliest place that we can observe it, is in western France,
1032
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:32.920
and that religious framework seems to have moved across southern
1033
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.280
Europe all the way to Egypt at different time periods
1034
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:39.599
over the course of the next ten or so thousand
1035
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:41.440
years after those cave paintings.
1036
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.320
This is incredible. Thank you so much, Daniel. Before you go,
1037
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.599
let the audience know how they can pick up the
1038
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.079
book when they can get it, and how they can
1039
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.440
find out more about you and all your content.
1040
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.480
Well, my book is currently on Lulu, and I can
1041
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.000
provide the link for that. I mean, I think you
1042
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.480
might have the link somewhere, maybe you can post it somewhere.
1043
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:06.760
I will definitely have it posted in the description.
1044
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:09.960
There's some kind of issue with Amazon.
1045
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.840
It'll eventually be on Amazon, so I don't want to
1046
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.280
post that link because Amazon is currently saying that it's
1047
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.320
out of print. So there's some kind of something happened
1048
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.719
over the past like month or so that there's a
1049
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.519
glitch or something. So if you look it up and
1050
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.880
it comes up on Amazon, it's going to tell you
1051
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.320
that it's out of print, so you might have to
1052
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:26.960
go through Lulu to actually get a paper copy of it.
1053
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.039
You can contact me through LinkedIn or Facebook, and my
1054
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.519
emails on both of those, so you can definitely feel
1055
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.599
free to email me if you would like to correspond
1056
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:40.000
or have any questions about anything that's inside the book.
1057
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.719
Excellent, Daniel, thank you so much. We will definitely have
1058
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.440
to do this again. There's much more we could cover.
1059
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.800
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
1060
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:54.920
talk again tomorrow. See I'll be in today. I want
1061
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.320
to welcome back to the show Scott Pace. He is
1062
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.960
from Louisiana working in Baton Rouge. He is an avid
1063
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.639
deer hunter and experiencer and researcher of Cryptid's paranormal and
1064
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.360
extraterrestrial entities. Scott, welcome back.
1065
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.599
How you doing, Hey, it's good to see you. Good
1066
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:14.360
to be back again.
1067
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.400
Yeah, great to have you back. I always love speaking
1068
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.679
to you. Our conversations are very fun and You've had
1069
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:24.920
some of the most incredible experiences that I've ever heard.
1070
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.119
I highly recommend everyone go and download episode one of
1071
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.880
The Forbidden documentary from our website and listen to our
1072
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:35.360
previous interviews that I've done with Scott. It'll catch you
1073
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:39.679
up on where we'll be picking up tonight. Your experiences
1074
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:42.559
started with a bigfoot and dog man encounter, then soon
1075
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:46.800
evolved to psychic communication, as well as encounters with many
1076
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:51.760
different kinds of non human entities and some you believe
1077
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:54.679
may not be from Earth. Now we're going to get
1078
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:58.880
deeper into all of this. Since that moment that you
1079
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.320
had that encounter, your life has changed dramatically as far
1080
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:07.000
as your perception of what's possible in our reality. And
1081
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.440
last time we left off talking about your first memories
1082
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:15.639
of having encounters with extraterrestrials before we get back into
1083
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.559
that and your latest experience that you were telling me
1084
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:22.360
about the other day, which is highly incredible. Have you
1085
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:28.159
had any new encounters with a sasquatch or forest people
1086
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:29.679
since we last spoke.
1087
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.599
No, not really. The lightest thing that's I guess happened
1088
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.320
was when I was in the woods this past hunting season.
1089
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:41.159
So every now and I get a few things here
1090
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.920
around my home and stuff like that. This past spring
1091
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:48.840
I had them come and they were actually in a
1092
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:51.199
cloaking form and I got to see them. They were
1093
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:52.960
actually behind me, and I was trying to mind speak
1094
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.440
to them and actually behind me in some trees, and
1095
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.079
so I turned around. They said turn around, So I
1096
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:01.119
turned around. On there they were. They were actually like
1097
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:03.800
a cloak to faces. What they were, they were just
1098
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:05.920
the faces that came through we can call a veil,
1099
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:07.960
and then you could see there the outline of their
1100
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.400
faces and stuff in there. It takes a trained eye
1101
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.039
to do this. Just everybody just can't see this, you know.
1102
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.800
People are thinking it's just gonna look like a tall
1103
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:17.719
person or ape or something like that. But it didn't
1104
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.400
always come out like that that. Actually they look they
1105
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.719
actually blend in very very well with their surroundings. And
1106
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.199
so that's what happened. If they're up in the trees
1107
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:28.679
and I can see their faces and over there.
1108
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:33.519
As far as the way they appear, I've seen many
1109
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:38.599
pictures from folks that have had experiences like yourself, and
1110
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:43.000
there are some that appear that these beings can take
1111
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:46.159
the form of its surroundings in some way.
1112
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:49.440
That's what I'm talking about. They kind of blend in
1113
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:54.000
with the background, and so when I'm looking. Actually, one
1114
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:55.599
of the things that it comes to me first when
1115
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:57.360
they're around is I get a hoigh pitch noise in
1116
01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.519
my ear. And once they get a high pitched noise
1117
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.119
in my ear, I know that they're around. It's kind
1118
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:03.559
of like ten and nights. I don't know if I'm
1119
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.039
ex playing to you, but it's not too nice. It's
1120
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.519
just them breaking through the veil or whenever they come around.
1121
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:12.480
And then I start looking and if I really can't
1122
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.880
see them, then I'll start taking pictures. And mostly when
1123
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.680
I take pictures and that's when I pick up on
1124
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:20.039
them and I can see them. And so the last
1125
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:22.199
thing that really happened when I was at my hunting lease.
1126
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:25.680
I was actually hunting, and I got the same thing,
1127
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:28.279
got this high pitched noise, and I started scanning the
1128
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.680
area and this one bottom that I was in where
1129
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:33.920
I was hunting in I could see something standing there.
1130
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.439
And so I've learned from my past experiences not to
1131
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:38.840
pick up my gun and point out them, so I
1132
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.199
don't do that. So I have binoculars now and actually
1133
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.239
picked up binoculars to start looking. I could see there
1134
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:45.560
was a figure there and it was kind of like
1135
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.600
a dark figure, and I just started taking my iPhone.
1136
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.359
I started panning the area, and that's when I picked
1137
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.479
up on it was a female standing there, and she
1138
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.720
was standing there, and also there was another one that
1139
01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:58.680
was appeared to be a male, was hanging off the
1140
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:01.119
side of a tree and it was up in the air.
1141
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.079
And that's when I've seen them. Then you know, they're
1142
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.199
standing there, just like they were there one second or
1143
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.039
one second there wasn't there, and then all sudden they
1144
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.119
just showed up, just like if they came through a portal,
1145
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:12.600
they came through a veil or something like that, and
1146
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.319
there they were. They were just standing there.
1147
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.359
And I think we talked a little bit about this before.
1148
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:23.359
Have you ever found any type of physical evidence like poop,
1149
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:27.520
are remains, or hair or anything like that.
1150
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.560
I really don't go looking for that kind of stuff.
1151
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:33.039
Other people have, but I don't. I mean, they just
1152
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:35.600
come right up to me, so for me to go
1153
01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:37.600
out and do that kind of research. I really don't
1154
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.600
need to do that kind of research. So I'm not
1155
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:42.279
trying to brad or anything. I'm not trying to make
1156
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:46.560
myself look better, but I feel like I'm more advanced.
1157
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.800
I talked to other researchers that've been out there doing
1158
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.159
it for years, I mean twenty thirty years, and they say,
1159
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:53.800
how do you get this far as fast? I think.
1160
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:55.880
I think the whole thing is your approach when you
1161
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:59.520
go out in the woods, be respectful, introduce yourself, tell
1162
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.319
them who you are are, what your tensions are. And
1163
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:04.720
some people say, well, you're a human, you shouldn't have
1164
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.560
to do that, you know. But at the same time,
1165
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.439
that's where they live. That is their home. So if
1166
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:11.119
you're going a hunting or you're walking through the areas,
1167
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:12.880
let them know say hey, I'm just walking through the area.
1168
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:17.479
That way, you're being respectful of the area. You're being
1169
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.560
respectful of them and their families because they are a
1170
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.479
family unit. They come in plans, they have males, they
1171
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.560
have females, they have children, and especially during hunting season
1172
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.199
and stuff like that, if I go into an area,
1173
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:30.920
i' let them know I'm coming in, which you know,
1174
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.319
they know you're I'm coming anyway. I love them know
1175
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:35.840
my attentions. I'm just there to hunt deer. I'm just
1176
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.680
there to shoot hogs. That's it. And that's what I
1177
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:41.279
do when I when I go in there, you know,
1178
01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:42.800
and I let them know my attentions and all that.
1179
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.800
But as far as physical evidence, I've seen broken trees
1180
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:48.880
and stuff like that. I have that kind of evidence there.
1181
01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:51.960
I've seen that. As far as hair and stuff, I've
1182
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.359
seen betting areas. But I really don't go in looking
1183
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:58.520
for that kind of evidence when my experiences has been
1184
01:10:58.600 --> 01:10:59.439
face to face with it.
1185
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:05.279
You know, have all your experiences been of a benevolent nature?
1186
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:09.399
Have you ever felt aggression from these beings?
1187
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:12.279
I have been za what they call zap before, and
1188
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:15.760
I think that's due to some of the younger ones.
1189
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.920
The older ones don't really do that. I think if
1190
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:21.319
you're going to a certain area and maybe a mother's
1191
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:24.279
there or something like that, she may warn you or something,
1192
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:26.079
you can get something a stick thrown at you or
1193
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:28.319
a rock or something like that. I have had a
1194
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:32.079
stick thrown at my deer stand before. I've had what
1195
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.880
they call zap is when they put out a electrical
1196
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.600
field it's it's like a wave of energy field they
1197
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.800
put out and actually make you dizzy, disoriented and can
1198
01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.199
actually make you sick to the point to where you know,
1199
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.600
you start throwing up and stuff like that. So yeah,
1200
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.199
I mean I've had a lot of incidents like that
1201
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:52.560
as far as in chasing me out of the woods
1202
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:55.159
stuff like that. I've had them escort me out one time.
1203
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:57.880
Oh than that, No, I've never I've never had them
1204
01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.960
run me, say, run me out of the woods before.
1205
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.479
I haven't had any bad experiences like other people have.
1206
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:08.439
But I think they know your intentions. They know what
1207
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:10.920
you're there for, and if you're there to hurt them
1208
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.279
or harm them, or if you have bad intentions going in,
1209
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.079
they can pick up on that in no time at all.
1210
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:21.680
They have highly tuned psychic and intuitive abilities. Right, they
1211
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:28.079
can sense not only your intention, but you can communicate
1212
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:29.840
with them without speaking.
1213
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:36.359
Right. Yes, since my experience that I had it was
1214
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.319
in twenty nineteen, something was transferred to me cause the
1215
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.920
only way I could explain it if I were to
1216
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.199
go to like a religious standpoint, if you go to
1217
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:49.000
certain churches, some of them believe in spiritual gifts, other
1218
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:54.039
ones don't, and some churches are some beliefs. Some faces
1219
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:56.760
believe that you can lay hands on people and some
1220
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.560
spiritual gifts are transferred. And so that's basically what happened
1221
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:06.399
to me is they just knocked my phone off. This
1222
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:09.840
is crazy. They literally knock my phone off.
1223
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:12.880
Okay, that is crazy.
1224
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:15.600
So you've seen that my hands are down, I'm talking
1225
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:19.760
and they literally knock my phone over.
1226
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.520
They seem to have some kind of tricks or nature
1227
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.920
to them. And you said, this happens kind of often,
1228
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.760
especially you've been having problems with electronics lately.
1229
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.840
Well, yeah, they do stuff like this all the time.
1230
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:36.960
The other crazy thing is is let me move my
1231
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:38.720
camera just a little about trying to get the center.
1232
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:43.800
The other thing is is that if they don't like
1233
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:48.000
certain people I'm doing interviews with, they'll will mess the
1234
01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:50.239
interview up something. I'll start breaking up and everything, and
1235
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:53.199
they'll actually zap my phone and then it'll just stop.
1236
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:59.720
Oh wow, So you're you're seeing firsthand what I do
1237
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.439
with We're here.
1238
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:05.279
With respect, guys. Yeah, let's try and get through this one.
1239
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.880
Okay. So we got a I don't know, so you're
1240
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.119
asked about the abilities and stuff like that. I don't
1241
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.560
think they like that question for some reason. My answer down,
1242
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:20.239
I'm like going, Okay, there's there's nothing around me. There's
1243
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:22.479
no cats, my dog don't come upstairs. So it's just
1244
01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:26.439
like you've seen that yourself. I have got watched read this.
1245
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:31.119
I have got double sided tape holding my cant I'm
1246
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:33.880
holding my my phone in place so it don't move.
1247
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:36.439
That's crazy.
1248
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.399
Huh, that is crazy crazy. You said that these these
1249
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:46.399
beings are mainly of a benevolent nature, and it's only
1250
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:50.279
probably when they're approached with disrespect or you enter their
1251
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:55.479
territory any type of threatening manner, that it would act
1252
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.279
like it was defending its territory.
1253
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.680
Right, Well, the forces are home, and so that's what
1254
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:03.199
you have to look at is is that's their home.
1255
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:05.479
And so whenever you come into their territory, that is
1256
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.560
their home. That's where they live at. They're going to
1257
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.279
defend their territory. I mean, if you look around now,
1258
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:13.359
I mean most of the forests are being cut down.
1259
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.000
We don't have the thick forest like we used to.
1260
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.800
Trees are being harvested more and sometimes they get planted back,
1261
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:23.720
and sometimes they don't even a national forest. They go
1262
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:25.520
through and they thin it out. It's not like it
1263
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:27.680
used to be a long time ago, you know, used
1264
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:29.960
to have more trees and stuff out there. Now everything
1265
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.199
is symmetrical, as guess you would say. So everything's could
1266
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:37.279
cutter and it's all symmetrical. It's not not like I knew.
1267
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:39.159
I knew it when I was a kid growing up,
1268
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.279
you'd see the National Forest out was it was wild
1269
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.279
and nature and stuff. It's not like that anymore. Now
1270
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.840
they come through and they cut everything and they harvest
1271
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.680
the trees. Well that's what the that's what they do.
1272
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:52.600
They the federal government sells off those lots of trees
1273
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:55.479
and then they come back and they replant again. So
1274
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:58.800
what it does it makes the forest less dense.
1275
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.960
I would have imagine that the more that this is happening,
1276
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:07.239
the less area that they have, and it's possible we
1277
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:11.079
may see them more often. What do you think about that.
1278
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.239
I believe it's very possible. They do have cloaking abilities,
1279
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.640
so they're they're going to be like a predator type thing.
1280
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:20.600
That that's the way they cloak and stuff. And they
1281
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.760
have abilities to come in and out of portals also
1282
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:26.479
so they can go. They can they can actually communicate,
1283
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:32.279
you know, via mind speak telepathy, and they can go
1284
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:35.039
through portals. They can be what we call a veil.
1285
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:37.640
They can go behind what you call a veil and
1286
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.279
actually speak to you and talk to you like that too.
1287
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:44.119
Now, speaking of portals, the way that they are traveling,
1288
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.479
could they do you think that they're going into different
1289
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:52.439
dimensions and that there are other non human entities in
1290
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:55.720
the dimensions that these these creatures are going.
1291
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:04.800
I can only account for the forest people, sasquash, bigfoot, Sitanga.
1292
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.000
That's the only ones I can account for. I've never
1293
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:12.479
seen a dog man going in out of portal. I
1294
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:14.800
don't know if they do. They may travel with the
1295
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.560
big Foot when they do that, and the Bigfoot may
1296
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.159
be the ones that are opening and closing the portals.
1297
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:22.760
But I have seen I have seen portals open and
1298
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:26.760
closed before, both with UFOs and with with the Bigfoot.
1299
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:30.039
Could you describe what it looks like when you when
1300
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:30.880
you see a portal?
1301
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.319
There are different types if they're up in the air.
1302
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:37.079
The ones I've seen were like a square or rectangle
1303
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.479
that opens up like a window like you would open
1304
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.960
up a window, and then the UFOs go through that
1305
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.119
and it's just like that, nothing's behind it, you know,
1306
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.760
it's like a window. And then I actually seen a
1307
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:51.880
UFO go inside of a portal that I've actually seen
1308
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:56.800
this pass in wintertime. I actually seen one come out
1309
01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.640
of one and that it's just opens up. It's just
1310
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.640
a line then and then it opens and it closes.
1311
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:05.960
That's it. It's all. It is, just like a wonder
1312
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:10.439
how did go ahead? Okay, I'm sorry, I'm gonna talk
1313
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:13.319
about the big FO. Yeah, it was a more round
1314
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.960
They have a round like a round hole that open up.
1315
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.000
The open up and they'll make a round circle. They'll
1316
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.880
walk through it like you step one dimension to another dimension,
1317
01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:26.720
and they'll close right back up. That's how those work.
1318
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:31.520
Are these bright white lights? Are they translucent? Do they
1319
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:35.039
have different colors? Whenever these portals are opening.
1320
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.119
It's just a it's just a light. It's just like
1321
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:40.119
an LED lights all it is. It's not like a
1322
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.359
bright white light or anything like that. It's just an
1323
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.039
LED lights all it is. How did you the only
1324
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:47.720
ones I've ever seen, the only colors I've ever seen,
1325
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:49.159
was like, I haven't seen you o the color?
1326
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.520
How did your experiences with extra terrestrials begin?
1327
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.359
I guess in my dreams really that was it, you know,
1328
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:04.359
so how I know of I started noticing things that
1329
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:06.920
this is gonna sound really weird and strange, Like nothing
1330
01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:11.199
strange already, huh. But anyways, I started noticing pieces of
1331
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.359
my skin missing on my face and stuff like that,
1332
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:15.840
and then on my ears, you know, they'd come and
1333
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.560
take samples off my ears and stuff like that. And
1334
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:21.840
I started noticing and uh, then they started coming in
1335
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:26.359
my dreams. And one of the craziest things is, uh,
1336
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:28.960
they came and got me on time. When I say
1337
01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.479
came and got me, it's like a how to explain this,
1338
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:37.600
It's like an out of body experience. And so I
1339
01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:42.039
went to sleep that night started dreaming. But when I
1340
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.560
started dreaming, I was actually coming out of like a
1341
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:48.840
spaceship some kind of some kind of craft, and we
1342
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:53.359
were walking into a tunnel. And this tunnel, this corridor
1343
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.840
I will call it because it was more arch shaped.
1344
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.159
It is what it was, a long, long corridor. There
1345
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.720
was no lights. The walls, whatever the rock was inside
1346
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:08.760
the walls actually put off a light, and it was
1347
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.560
kind of like, it's kind of hard to explain that
1348
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:15.239
it would be like a yellow greenish light is what
1349
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:18.000
it would be. And we were walking at his corridor
1350
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.560
and walking this long long halloways and we walked for
1351
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.800
a long time, and all sudden I started seeing hallways
1352
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.199
go off to each side, and we got to this
1353
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:35.319
one and when we turned there was like a cycoplacus there.
1354
01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:37.199
So let me tell you who I was in the group.
1355
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:40.479
I forgot to tell you that there was the guy,
1356
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:44.000
or I say guy. It was actually insector sooid I
1357
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:46.279
called him insector soid. It wasn't like a praying manister.
1358
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:48.479
It looked more like an ant, That's what it looked like.
1359
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.039
But it was a tall figure and he was the
1360
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:54.119
one that was controlling my mind and stuff like that.
1361
01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:56.399
Then they had some grays. There were tall grayes. They
1362
01:20:56.439 --> 01:20:58.640
were taller than me. And then they had a one
1363
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.720
sasquatch and it was really really tall. It was really big,
1364
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.439
I mean just huge, probably about I had to guess,
1365
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:09.319
probably about twelve feet tall, close to by probably six ounds,
1366
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.439
which is huge, really really big. And so we walked
1367
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:17.359
over to this black sycophagus and I was shorter than
1368
01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:19.119
it was tall, way taller, and he was probably about
1369
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:22.359
six foot tall, maybe seven foot tall. And so he
1370
01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:25.520
walked over the sasquad did, walked over and moved the lid,
1371
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:27.119
and when he did, he picked me up and put
1372
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.279
me inside, and so I crawled in and whatever was
1373
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.600
there had lands and long fingers, really really long. It
1374
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:36.399
was creepy, but I wasn't scared. It's like I have
1375
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:38.600
a spirit of fear of nothing, no emotions. I don't
1376
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:40.399
have any emotions. I was just going through the motions
1377
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.039
whatever sewing me do. So I got inside, crawled on top,
1378
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.439
and I was looking face to face to this creature.
1379
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.600
The creature that I was looking at really hard me
1380
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:56.600
to explain, because it had a long head, not wide,
1381
01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:01.039
but long long, and I remember it opened up its
1382
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:04.000
eyes and his eyes were kind of green looking. And
1383
01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.520
then when it opened up his eyes, I was kneeling
1384
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:08.640
down on his chest, looking face to face with it.
1385
01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:10.600
And then I got scared. I don't know how I
1386
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:11.960
got scared, but it was like, all right, I got
1387
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.720
to get out of here. And it was like the insect,
1388
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.960
the soid didn't have control over my mind anymore. And
1389
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:20.119
then when I went to get out, this thing actually
1390
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:22.359
grabbed my legs and tried to hold me and actually
1391
01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:26.079
punctured my legs. And so I got out and the
1392
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:32.159
Bigfoot closed the closed the lid on the sycophagus, and
1393
01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:36.640
I was standing bomb and I remember asking, why did
1394
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:38.079
you come and get me in and do this? And
1395
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.720
they said because and except the soid said because you
1396
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:45.760
have a spirit and a soul. I still don't understand
1397
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:47.680
all that, don't know. But I remember waking up the
1398
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:52.880
next morning and I had real, real dark puncture marks,
1399
01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:57.520
almost like you have a wound, but they had healed up.
1400
01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:00.239
I'm just that fast. They healed up. But the fingers real,
1401
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:03.840
real long, and they had points on the end of them,
1402
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:06.560
something similar to an ice pit. Because of what I
1403
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:12.279
would say, so cu So that was one. That was
1404
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:17.000
one that I had, the latest one I had. You're
1405
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.079
gonna go ahead and talk about that also well.
1406
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:23.319
Before we get into that. I believe that the reason
1407
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:28.279
that they could be taking you is to give you
1408
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:32.760
some sort of experience or understanding, or do you think
1409
01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:36.720
that they're trying to find out more about you in
1410
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:38.239
some experimental way.
1411
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:41.079
I think they've been doing this all along with humans.
1412
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:42.880
They just pick certain ones to come and do it with,
1413
01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.319
you know, I'm just I'm just one of those people
1414
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:47.159
who doesn't mind talking about it, you know, a lot
1415
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:52.000
of people are really really quiet. They don't want to
1416
01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.479
talk about me, but I don't. I mean, it doesn't
1417
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:56.760
matter me. I don't care, you know. But I've had
1418
01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.279
some really crazy, wild experiences. I remember when I first
1419
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:02.720
twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty, they started coming to me
1420
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.840
in mind, speaking with me, the Sasquatch did. And when
1421
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:07.840
they did, I started asking questions. They said, wull to
1422
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:09.720
ask us any questions you want. That's how it got
1423
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:13.279
through this because when that first happened, I was really
1424
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.680
shook up, really really shook up. And they came to
1425
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:20.880
me and it was at night, and they just pretty
1426
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:23.039
much said, look, we're not here to hurt you. We're
1427
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.079
not going to hurt you. And they just started coaching
1428
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:27.640
me through all these things. So I asked a lot
1429
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:30.039
of questions. I asked a whole lot of questions, asked
1430
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.920
about them, their lives, their families, where they come from.
1431
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.920
And you know, from this, this whole journey just just
1432
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:41.720
grew since twenty nineteen to where you know, you get
1433
01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:47.720
into more of the other creatures, other beings that are
1434
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:53.239
out there, and the really bad ones, I will say,
1435
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:57.880
are the dark shadow creatures or entities or whatever. Those
1436
01:24:57.920 --> 01:24:59.960
are the bad ones, okay, but the rest of them
1437
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:02.279
are not bad. I mean most of them. Just they
1438
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:03.760
kind of look at us as it's kind of like
1439
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:07.039
we would look at cattle, you know, And so they
1440
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:09.760
don't wear a lower life for them to them, but
1441
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:12.840
they can use this. But because we do have a
1442
01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:17.000
spear of soul, we're valuable to them. Humans are very
1443
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:18.119
valuable to them.
1444
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:22.520
Let's get into your latest experience. The one you called
1445
01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:25.279
me and told me about the other day is very incredible.
1446
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:31.000
Okay, so in six eight of twenty three, I've never
1447
01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.560
had anything happen to me like this. I've seen things
1448
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:37.039
in the air. I've seen all kinds of stuff, and
1449
01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:39.039
it's kind of like I have a gift that I
1450
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.159
can see things when they're around. I can see them,
1451
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:42.720
I can see in the clouds, I can see if
1452
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:44.800
there's something there, I can pick up on it. Sometimes
1453
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.079
I take pictures. I see it so often now that
1454
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:48.880
I just I'll just quit, you know, really don't take
1455
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:53.399
a lot of pictures anymore. But they're a lot more
1456
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.279
often in what you think they really are. And so
1457
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.159
there's a lot of space map out there. There's a
1458
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.439
lot of different things that fly around us. They fly
1459
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:05.840
to speed, and they're very quiet. They're so fast you'll
1460
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:12.800
never see them, you know. So six 's eight twenty three. Actually,
1461
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.079
at two point thirty in the morning, my cat actually
1462
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:17.439
woke me up and she was me out and going crazy.
1463
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.319
So I got up and kind of looking at it.
1464
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:22.000
I was kind of dazed a little bit, was so
1465
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:25.880
I thought, because I seen a bunch of lights in
1466
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:28.159
the room, and I said, well, I'm just kind of sleepy,
1467
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:29.560
you know. So I got it was that never had
1468
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.880
happened to me before. So I got out, went to
1469
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:34.319
the to the bathroom, and walked back into my bedroom.
1470
01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:37.439
When I walked back in the bedroom, they were still there.
1471
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:39.920
All these orbs and lights were all over the place,
1472
01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:44.239
and they were going all over and so all of
1473
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:46.000
a sudden, I just sat there and I just started looking,
1474
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:49.279
So I said, what is going on? And all of
1475
01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:52.199
a sudden, I see this shell person going to the
1476
01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:54.760
corner of the room, and all these lights just went
1477
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:58.119
at it. And also the shadow person disappeared, wasn't there anymore.
1478
01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.560
So all sudden they are floating around again. And then
1479
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.199
then my room, actually the whole roof that you see
1480
01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:06.439
right here, that pa was gone, and it was like,
1481
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:09.000
oh my god, what is going on? So I'm like,
1482
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:13.199
are looking around and there's like a hologround. Then they
1483
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:18.239
started talking to me and said, I said, we're there, arcturions,
1484
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:22.439
And they said that. They told me what found. It's funny.
1485
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:23.800
They told me what plant they were from, but I
1486
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.399
can't remember. They were showing me their whole solar system
1487
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:28.960
was right here in my room, and it was like
1488
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.399
it was nothing here, there's nothing at all, and it
1489
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.119
was just the four walls and here. And so I
1490
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.359
started talking to them. They said, you know us as
1491
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:38.760
the blue people. Say said okay, which I hadn't really
1492
01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:40.479
done a lot of research on all that stuff, you know.
1493
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:42.279
So they said, you know what, they said, we can
1494
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:46.760
be either in a light form what you've seen, or
1495
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.920
we can be in a when you look at we
1496
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.039
look like the humans look like that. We will be blue,
1497
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:56.239
actually be blue, the color blue. I said, okay, And
1498
01:27:56.760 --> 01:27:58.319
so they started talking to me and they told me
1499
01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:00.359
where they were from. They said we're an element navel
1500
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:02.000
up beans and said we're not here to hurt you.
1501
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.399
We're here to protect you. They said, actually the Earth
1502
01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:06.479
has been under attack for a long time and said,
1503
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:08.760
we're here to help people out. And I actually have
1504
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:15.000
felt some things lift from me and my wife. You know,
1505
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.319
sometimes you feel like you're under attack all the time. Now,
1506
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:21.159
religious people will call that being attacked by the devil,
1507
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.520
or spiritual people to call it by negative entities and
1508
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:26.720
stuff like that. And it was we've had a lot
1509
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:29.359
of stuff happen to us, you know. But they said
1510
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:31.079
they were here to help, and I thank them myself.
1511
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:32.920
I appreciate what you're doing for us, I really do.
1512
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:36.960
And so they just said stay positive, you know, and
1513
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:40.640
I talked to him. Now, this happened for about two hours.
1514
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:45.079
Who talked, and then downstairs I heard some some stuff
1515
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:48.680
going on down there. And my wife had woke up
1516
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:51.119
at four o'clock in the morning, so she was gonna
1517
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.359
let the dog out. And so when she did, I
1518
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:55.079
called her. I said, I said, whenever you get the
1519
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:56.359
dog back up, I said, come here. I want you
1520
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.159
to see something. Hurry up. Right when I said that,
1521
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:01.720
she'd the dog back in, and she was coming up
1522
01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:05.520
the stairs, and when she did, the closet actually lit up.
1523
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:07.800
When I say it lit up inside the closet, it
1524
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.039
was all kind of lights and everything going on inside there,
1525
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:12.159
and it was it was white lights, yellow lights and
1526
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:14.880
colors I've never seen before. And the red light went
1527
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.880
off in there. And so they had told me that
1528
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.800
this is is crazy. They said that they were using
1529
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.720
my closet as a portal come in and out of
1530
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.520
I'm like, wow, see, humans, we don't know what's going
1531
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.520
on around us all the time. They could be doing stuff,
1532
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.680
and when you're sleeping, you don't even know. And so
1533
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:34.840
it actually has been very peaceful lately. I've had some
1534
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:38.239
dreams and stuff, but other than that, nothing bad. I mean,
1535
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:41.720
the sasquatch they stay here, they coming out out of
1536
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.039
my house, and I kind of have a I guess
1537
01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:47.399
you color poor with them or whatever. And I don't
1538
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.159
fight with them and stuff. I get along with them.
1539
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:52.479
And you know, they they coming out in their spirit
1540
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:56.159
form and we're called cloaking form. And so, but it's
1541
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:57.560
actually been pretty quiet lately.
1542
01:29:57.840 --> 01:29:59.640
Now, did your wife see any.
1543
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:03.439
Of She did? She came upstairs, and when she had
1544
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:05.680
she laid down in the bed. I lay down in
1545
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:07.520
the bed the whole time with the pillow stacked up
1546
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:09.000
behind me, and I'm just kind of sitting up a
1547
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.520
little bit, you know. But laying down. It was very
1548
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.920
overwhelming for me. I've never seen anything like this at all. Nothing.
1549
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:16.800
I mean, this is this is the by for the
1550
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:20.800
craziest thing I've ever seen and most miraculous thing I've
1551
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.199
ever seen. You know. So it wasn't a bad experience.
1552
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:27.359
It was a good experience. And uh, you know, we
1553
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.479
talked about a lot of stuff, and so one of
1554
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:34.439
the things they talked about is where the Earth is
1555
01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.760
going and where we're going as human race, and we're
1556
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:43.279
fixing start ramping up so you can get ready the
1557
01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:47.279
intelligence of humans or fixing to take off, so we
1558
01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:49.199
can get ready for that whatever's coming. It's going to
1559
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:50.439
be a next level it's coming.
1560
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:51.399
Now.
1561
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:55.880
How tall were these beings and were they completely physical?
1562
01:30:57.279 --> 01:30:59.560
They were light beings. They weren't physical. They didn't come
1563
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:02.840
in and their blue form. They came kind of like
1564
01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:04.800
projected to me like they may have been somewhere else
1565
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:06.880
and they projected what they looked like to me. They
1566
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.039
were light beings, and so it's kind of like a
1567
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:13.399
kind of like they were a hologram also, you know, interesting,
1568
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:15.880
and so they didn't come in physical form to my house.
1569
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.159
It was it was a light being like a projected
1570
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:21.439
holograms what it was. But it was colors like I've
1571
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:24.359
never seen before. It was beautiful colors. I would I would,
1572
01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:26.800
I would call it like colors in a diamond if
1573
01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:29.279
you ever looked inside of a diamond. How they how
1574
01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:31.239
they have different colors that sparkle like that? What would
1575
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:31.720
it look like?
1576
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:34.920
And how many beings were there? Were they just two?
1577
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:39.159
You said, ah, there were a bunch. There were actually
1578
01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:42.800
more than that were probably six to eight. But the
1579
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:45.479
last one that talked to me. They once stook around
1580
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:47.920
and talked to me for a while, you know, they
1581
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:50.039
they sit and spent time with being stuff and talked
1582
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:52.359
to me, and then they then they just left, you know,
1583
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:54.680
that was left them. And when my wife come upstairs,
1584
01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.560
she could still see the orbs what I call orbs
1585
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.520
and lights in the room, and uh, she closed her
1586
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.079
eyes and they actually gave her a vision of in
1587
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:07.840
her head of what that looked like. And she told me,
1588
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:11.760
you've seen it, you know, I said, Wow, that is incredible.
1589
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:12.880
Do you have any.
1590
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.319
Do you have any memories of what they were talking.
1591
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:17.479
To you about?
1592
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:21.079
Some of it? I do, I mean some of it. It's
1593
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:22.680
it would take a long time to talk about everything,
1594
01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:24.640
because I asked all kinds of questions, where you come from?
1595
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:27.000
What are your people like? You know, what do y'all do?
1596
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:30.720
How do y'all get around? Spacecrafts and stuff like that?
1597
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:33.479
And they use portals and stuff too. Those people are
1598
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:34.880
able to use portals and come in and out and
1599
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:38.119
do different things. But they're able to project their their
1600
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:41.840
I don't want to call it a spirit, but it
1601
01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:45.119
projected their body into a light form and that's what
1602
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:47.600
you see that's walking on there. So their physical form
1603
01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:52.079
could be somewhere else. And that's what they do. And
1604
01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:55.960
they fly around the space ships all around the Earth
1605
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:58.199
and everything. That's what we call it craft to say craft.
1606
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:00.560
They're in a craft around Earth and stuff.
1607
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:08.560
Did they tell you anything about the malevolent entities and
1608
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:10.399
their agendas with humans?
1609
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.479
All? Thing that told me really, that part was that
1610
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.600
they're here to help and more of that's coming, a
1611
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.279
lot more is coming. So the rest of it was
1612
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:24.199
basically a download for me and it's kind of like
1613
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:26.359
stored in my brain and they'll use it later. They
1614
01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:29.920
able to tell me. So whatever's coming, they're going to
1615
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.239
start actually humans are going to start getting more intelligent
1616
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:37.560
and you're going to be. How do I say this?
1617
01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:42.039
I don't want to sound negative. Humans have been dumbed
1618
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:45.119
down for so long. They're really and so now we're
1619
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:47.039
fixing to go to the next level, fixing to get
1620
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:49.399
a downloads. What's going to happen? So we're going to
1621
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:50.920
be downloaded pretty quick. Here.
1622
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:54.840
Do you think that the sasquatch has a connection to
1623
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.800
these blue Arcturian beings that visited you.
1624
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:01.279
I think they're all connected. In fact, I know they are.
1625
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.000
They're all connected. But it's kind of like some people.
1626
01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.439
Some of these beings talk to each other, some of
1627
01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:10.520
them don't, some of them just you know. I think
1628
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:13.079
it all has to do with a purpose. If they
1629
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.800
don't really have a purpose in it's kind of like
1630
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:18.000
you and I walking down the road. It might be
1631
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:19.560
a dog or a cat next to us. If we
1632
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:21.039
don't have a purpose, we don't sit there and talk
1633
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:21.800
to a dog or cat.
1634
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:22.159
You know.
1635
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:25.079
I feel in Louisiana like we are as an alligator next thing.
1636
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:29.840
You're not gonna food alligator, you know, just going It's
1637
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:30.600
kind of like that.
1638
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:35.640
Now you said that you've heard of encounters with reptilian
1639
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:37.319
like entities in the swamps.
1640
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:44.399
I have I've heard of those before, and it's it's
1641
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.439
a reptilian, like a snake looking person in the face.
1642
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:52.199
I've heard those encounters before, not necessarily an alligator type person,
1643
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.840
but a reptilian and they look more like a lizard
1644
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.800
or a snake, is what they look look like, you know,
1645
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:00.359
in the swamps and stuff here in the South. And
1646
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.359
I've heard of stuff anywhere from Louisiana all the way
1647
01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:07.079
to Florida about these things that people tell me about
1648
01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:10.039
these experiences and stuff every very basically, what it is
1649
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:13.119
is wherever you have a climate for them, that is
1650
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:16.399
it's warm like it is down here, it's humid, you know.
1651
01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:18.640
I don't necessarily think you would find them a lot
1652
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:22.640
more and like dry, dry places where you are, but
1653
01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:25.399
maybe they are. But I think these creatures I'm talking
1654
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:28.119
about are more of an amphibious type of creature, okay,
1655
01:35:29.079 --> 01:35:33.920
And they live down here, and those creatures are mostly
1656
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:35.800
stay around the ward and swamps and stuff.
1657
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:40.720
How many experiences have you had where other people were
1658
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:42.880
witnessing the same thing that you were.
1659
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.479
Barry Webster is one, my best friend we had. That's two.
1660
01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:53.960
Derek Webster was another one. When she had all that
1661
01:35:54.439 --> 01:35:58.520
up in Nebraska, and then we had their group which
1662
01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:01.680
is redsquatching. There was I think eight or nine of
1663
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.640
us that night that we had did all these experiences happen,
1664
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:07.479
and so that was probably the non people told that
1665
01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:09.720
that night we had all the experiences together.
1666
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:14.000
It seems that whenever you are able to get a
1667
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:17.920
picture or a video, that they have some kind of
1668
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:22.119
effect on the electronic equipment to where you're not going
1669
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:25.680
to get a clear picture. And that's probably why we've
1670
01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:28.159
never seen a clear picture of these beings.
1671
01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:31.359
Well there's plenty of clear pictures out there. It's just
1672
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.600
what people want to leave, you know, and what they
1673
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:37.520
want to accept. Our human minds are not programmed to
1674
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:40.680
accept these type things. You can be looking at one
1675
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:42.920
and you'll think it's just the woods and it's ten
1676
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.439
twelve foot tall. You think, all that's just part of
1677
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.600
the woods, but really it's stem standing there and that's
1678
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.399
how big they are. I mean sometimes I went up
1679
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:54.239
last hunting season when I had this female walk out
1680
01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:56.199
on me and just looked like a stick figures and
1681
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:58.600
I was trying to in my mind it was playing
1682
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.399
tricks on me because I was looking and I knew
1683
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:02.920
it was a dark figure, But then you're not looking
1684
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:09.119
for a solid black person with hairlin you know. And
1685
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:12.680
the reason why you get fuzzy pictures is because they
1686
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.000
put off a vibration. So if they don't want you
1687
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:16.479
to see them, or if you get too close, they're
1688
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:18.560
gonna start putting off a vibration. If you take a picture,
1689
01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.680
it's fuzzy. That's what it does. It controls your electronics,
1690
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:24.720
it can close, it controls you know. I had them
1691
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:26.680
going through the woods before where I got too close
1692
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.239
to wanting and come to find out there was a
1693
01:37:29.359 --> 01:37:33.880
nest or betting area I was at, and the mother
1694
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:37.119
actually zapped my golf cart. That's my coil up.
1695
01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:37.880
Huh.
1696
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:41.039
And the mess of them had to come back, buy
1697
01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:43.199
a whole new coll and everything and put all that
1698
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:46.239
back on. So, I mean they can They can affect
1699
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:50.319
your vehicles, They can affect you physically. They have all
1700
01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:54.079
accountabilities that are way far beyond what we know and
1701
01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:55.079
what we can accept.
1702
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:59.520
Have you seen any other type of shape shifting entities
1703
01:37:59.840 --> 01:38:04.319
or or maybe what you consider nature spirits something else
1704
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:08.800
that resides in those areas that's not necessarily a sasquatch,
1705
01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:11.560
but has some of these paranormal abilities.
1706
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:14.319
Yes, I say, I've seen a lot of those. I
1707
01:38:14.359 --> 01:38:17.680
got pictures of those two and they look all kinds
1708
01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:20.520
of different entities that are out there is what I
1709
01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.560
would call it. Some look like cats, some look like
1710
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:25.840
things with horns on it. You might want to call
1711
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:27.279
it a devil, or you might want to call it
1712
01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:31.000
a I want to say, a pan or something like that,
1713
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:33.960
or or a goat, goat person or something like that.
1714
01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:37.760
I've seen those before. They can blend in with the
1715
01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:40.239
background really really well. So whenever what I do is
1716
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:41.880
the first thing I do is if I take pictures
1717
01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:44.000
and I see stuff, if I think it's there, I
1718
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:46.199
start looking for eyes first. That's always the first thing
1719
01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:48.479
I look for. Its as shape of eyes. And then
1720
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.039
you might see a tree where the tree is here
1721
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:52.800
and it's it's on the side like this, you'll see
1722
01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:55.479
this or you just see this. Then you just might
1723
01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:58.680
get pieces of a head or something like that. But
1724
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.479
you always love the eyes. And if you look for
1725
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:03.399
the eyes and the shape of the eyes and everything,
1726
01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.880
then what's gonna happen next is you begin to make
1727
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.840
out the shapes and the shadows. So look look at
1728
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:11.920
the forest for what it is, look at the trees.
1729
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.399
Since I look inside the trees, you'll see faces, and
1730
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:16.680
then look on the side of the trees. Then after
1731
01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:18.760
you do that, then you'll start looking at the bushes
1732
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:20.600
and stuff, and you'll start making out and you say,
1733
01:39:20.680 --> 01:39:23.319
wait a minute, that looks like something right there. Always
1734
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:25.880
look for eyes first, because they can't hide their eyes.
1735
01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:28.079
They're looking at you just like they're looking at them,
1736
01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:30.520
and that's how you pick up on them. So, yeah,
1737
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:32.520
I've seen all kind of different entities out there. Now,
1738
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:37.239
I've seen I don't know, twenty thirty at least, you know,
1739
01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:39.079
I want to see hundreds, but I mean, yeah, that
1740
01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:41.920
would be exaggerating, but yeah, twenty or thirty at least,
1741
01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:44.760
different types and some stuff that you do you don't
1742
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:46.119
have no idea what it is. I mean I don't
1743
01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:47.720
still to this day, I don't know what it looks like.
1744
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:49.960
Some of it looks like a cat, some of it looks,
1745
01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:55.199
you know, reptilian looking, and then others have horns. I've
1746
01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:57.159
seen things with horns on it before, and you're thinking,
1747
01:39:57.279 --> 01:40:00.279
my god, but here's the thing. You know, you're you're
1748
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:03.439
walking right past it and they never touch her food
1749
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:04.239
or anything.
1750
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:10.720
What about orbs or yes, lights that will follow you around.
1751
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:13.920
Lots of orbs. I've seen different colored orbs and I
1752
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.000
learned a little bit about some of the orbs too.
1753
01:40:16.399 --> 01:40:21.119
White orbs are good, the blue orbs are good. They
1754
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:25.439
have different meanings, you know. The green orbs are actually
1755
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.960
the workers in the forest. Red orbs are like the
1756
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:36.479
what we call a protector, a military type thing, and
1757
01:40:37.119 --> 01:40:41.920
the orange ones are actually like leader and stuff like that.
1758
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.479
So that you have different meanings for different orbs are
1759
01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:45.279
out there.
1760
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:48.279
Very interesting, and.
1761
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:53.279
The orbs seem to have an intelligence to them, right, Well.
1762
01:40:53.159 --> 01:40:55.680
Yeah, I mean that's that's here's another thing that's hard
1763
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:58.640
to comprehend, and it's hard. It's not what we believe
1764
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:00.560
is what we're willing to accept. That is what they
1765
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:03.199
told me. So one of the conversations I had is like, man,
1766
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:06.039
I can't comprehend all this. There's too much download. They said, well,
1767
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:09.960
it's not what you leave is what you're willing to accept.
1768
01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:13.159
You can't move past all this until you start accepting.
1769
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:15.600
When you start accepting, you're going to go to the
1770
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:19.079
next level. Okay, I just accept it. Okay, So for
1771
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:21.880
us as humans, we have to accept that the orbs
1772
01:41:22.159 --> 01:41:25.439
or an entity inside. Now, is it a bigfoot, is
1773
01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:28.520
it a sasquatch, a seetongo as a forest person? It
1774
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:31.159
could be something else, but yes, that's one of the
1775
01:41:31.199 --> 01:41:33.880
ways that they move around is they move in light
1776
01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:37.119
ormal orb form, and that's what they do.
1777
01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:40.600
You think if more people would have a similar experience
1778
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:45.399
to you, where something happens in their consciousness when they're
1779
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:49.560
able to make a connection with one of these beings,
1780
01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:54.199
a psychic connection, that it may open up their pineal
1781
01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:56.760
gland or open up their third eye in a way
1782
01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:01.199
to where it brings back some of the conscientibilities that
1783
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:03.319
we may have had in our past.
1784
01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:07.840
Yeah, I think a lot that's gonna fix this fiction
1785
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:10.640
start happening, because that's what the light beings as actually
1786
01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:12.199
told me, is that our third eye is going to
1787
01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:14.880
be opened up me even more, and so we're gonna
1788
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:17.880
have more things happen to us. We'll be able to
1789
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:23.039
recognize things. Now here's the thing is is us you
1790
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.800
can't you can't be overreacting to things when you see them. Okay,
1791
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:29.520
so just because you see something different doesn't mean you
1792
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:31.319
break out a gun and start shooting at it, because
1793
01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:33.960
it could be a benevolent being, you know, and so
1794
01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.199
we have to be very very careful what we're doing
1795
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:39.159
because your third eyes will start opening, and it's going
1796
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:42.600
to open big time, and people like me will probably
1797
01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:45.199
be further along. But I mean, it's it's which I
1798
01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:48.399
am already. I'm already full alone and probably nine nine
1799
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:50.760
point nine percent of the people out there, there are
1800
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:53.039
some people like me, and they're very far and few,
1801
01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:55.920
but I've talked to a few of them recently, and
1802
01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:02.319
that has been my circle. So I kept these topics
1803
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:04.640
to certain people and that's it. I don't talk to
1804
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:08.159
other people about it anymore. But yeah, it's it's that
1805
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:11.760
third as fix of Really your consciousness is really it's
1806
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:15.119
more than that. It's it's an intelligence. It's a consciousness.
1807
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:18.119
It's it's a recognition because you see, your mind's not
1808
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.560
programmed to recognize who they are or what they are.
1809
01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:24.439
You know, you can have just a spaceship come right
1810
01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:26.680
value you never even know it because you're not programmed
1811
01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:30.800
like that. You're programmed to see airplane, solicopters things like that,
1812
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:32.920
you know, but you're not programmed to see a spaceship.
1813
01:43:33.239 --> 01:43:37.479
And right now, you see a lot of videos, TikTok
1814
01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:39.439
videos and stuff like that. You'll see a lot of
1815
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:41.359
stuff there out there that people are picking up on.
1816
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:43.319
They all freaking out. For me, I just look at
1817
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:45.600
it and said, okay, you know, it's like that's the
1818
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.359
time we had a hurricane over here. They had one
1819
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:50.520
fly over and I actually talked to it and it changed.
1820
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:52.840
It went from a white form to a disc and
1821
01:43:52.840 --> 01:43:55.920
it tried to hide itself and it became almost directly
1822
01:43:55.960 --> 01:44:00.760
over something turned in the west. And so yeah, this
1823
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.159
consciousness and this third eye, this intelligence, we're fixing to
1824
01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:07.239
get downloaded inside of us. Some of us already have it.
1825
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:10.239
They're trying to download stuff to us. Now, it's just
1826
01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:12.359
how you receive it, and if you're going to accept
1827
01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:12.880
it stuff.
1828
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:16.920
Do you think that it's possible that the reason we're
1829
01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:21.399
having this government disclosure is because they may know that
1830
01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:23.560
this is a kring with people and they're trying to
1831
01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:24.760
get ahead of it a little bit.
1832
01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:28.479
I think they're more like trying to accept it. They're
1833
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:30.560
trying to get everybody to accept it. Just like I'm
1834
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:34.439
telling you now, is that you know, people don't want
1835
01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:37.279
to accept these things, and we don't want to cause
1836
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:40.760
a war or start a fight with something that we
1837
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:43.800
can't deal with you know what I mean, these beings have.
1838
01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:47.680
I could go into a little bit of the weapons
1839
01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:51.000
that they have, which I've seen some things, and they've
1840
01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:53.600
showed me things like that before on some of the
1841
01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:58.439
craft that I've been on, and you know, it's just
1842
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.479
like they have good people on Earth. They got a
1843
01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:02.760
lot of bad people too on Earth. And you know
1844
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:08.039
the same thing that with these these space creatures and
1845
01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:10.199
stuff like that I call them, you know, these space beings.
1846
01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:11.600
There's a lot of that out there too, and then
1847
01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:14.159
they have people to go out and fight those things
1848
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:17.399
nationally use plasma rays to do it with, and so
1849
01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:21.119
it's two poor plasma that they put together and then
1850
01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:24.520
it's kind of like the way they loaded They just
1851
01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:26.920
push it in there and it just goes down and
1852
01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:31.319
when they energize it, then it's it turns into you know,
1853
01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:33.479
plasma gun after That's what it's called.
1854
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:38.520
Interesting. Now, what else have they also shown you other
1855
01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:42.399
types of technologies or weaponry that they have.
1856
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:45.439
Well that's the weapons that I seen. I was around
1857
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:46.880
them when they used all of it. So they had
1858
01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:48.640
to fight their way out one time when I was
1859
01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:52.399
in the cert ream and they just basically I watched
1860
01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:53.920
them when they did it, you know, and they let
1861
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:56.039
me handle some of it because I've handled weapons before,
1862
01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:59.199
and they taught me how to use it just in case,
1863
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.520
you know, they said, in case it gets really bad
1864
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.079
and you're you're going to have to use this weapon.
1865
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:05.000
So I said, okay, just show me how to do it,
1866
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:07.279
you know. So they did, so I was actually actually
1867
01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:09.560
able to hold it and everything. And then when it
1868
01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:12.319
comes time for us to load back on the space pack,
1869
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:14.119
we were all reloaded up, and I handed the weapon
1870
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:17.319
back to them, and that for them, I earned their
1871
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:19.119
trust and their confidence when I did that.
1872
01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.279
Could you tell us a little bit about the experiences
1873
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:25.600
you had on the craft where he's which you would
1874
01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:28.800
consider dream like or astral experiences or do you think
1875
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.239
they were physically.
1876
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:33.079
Taking you They were physically taking me there. That's one
1877
01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:35.600
of the things that we don't we can't comprehend as humans,
1878
01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:39.039
because they can come and get you and you think
1879
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:41.600
you're sleeping, but you're really not sleeping. You're actually in
1880
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:43.960
the battle. You're actually there fighting and stuff like that.
1881
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:46.800
So they actually come and take you, and they move
1882
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:49.199
us through space and time and you can go with
1883
01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:51.600
them and you can fight these battles and stuff with them,
1884
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:53.960
you know, And that's what I did. I actually wasn't
1885
01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:55.640
trying to be part of the battle. I just kind
1886
01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.279
of like fell into it, you know. And they were
1887
01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:02.720
they were. We went to a place and I'm trying
1888
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:08.560
to remember exactly what these creatures were we were fighting against.
1889
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:12.159
All the things coming to me right now is reptilian
1890
01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:14.159
type creatures. What they were. They were big. They were
1891
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:16.840
really big, like ten twelve foot tall, and these things
1892
01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.560
were coming at us. And there was a big battle
1893
01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:23.039
going on, and we had a small units that we had,
1894
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:25.760
and they brought me there with them, and I didn't
1895
01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:28.520
have any protective armor on and stuff like that, but
1896
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I did have. They gave me a weapon and said,
1897
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look here it. This is how you do it. It's two parts.
1898
01:47:31.960 --> 01:47:34.560
Put it together like this. Put it together and then
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shove it down the weapon and then you start pointing shooting.
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01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:40.239
So I said, okay. And these guys they were there
1901
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:44.359
were a lot of stuff going on, you know. And
1902
01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:49.199
the the spaceship or spacecraft that they had, it looks
1903
01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:50.960
something like some of the movies you have, but the
1904
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:52.640
way they fly them and the way they control them
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01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:54.159
are a little different. You know, you just put your
1906
01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:56.560
hands on down and your elbow down in your hands
1907
01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.079
and you actually fly it with your mind. The craft
1908
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:02.159
Ivzon didn't have any any controls on it, so to speak.
1909
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.439
You know, it was all done with your mind. So
1910
01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:06.960
that's that's that's what it was. How they controlled all
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01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:10.159
that and a warp speed they go through time and
1912
01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:11.880
space and all that. Yeah, all that happens. I mean,
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01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.319
it does. You just you don't really feel any different.
1914
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:17.079
You're very tired when I come back to those things.
1915
01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:19.680
I'm tired, really really tired. So it takes a lot
1916
01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:20.000
out of you.
1917
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:22.920
Is that Where were some of the other places that
1918
01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:27.560
they've taken you? Besides fighting battles? What else have you done?
1919
01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:32.479
We went and looked at that one creature one time
1920
01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:36.479
that I told you about what a sycophaga, And the
1921
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:40.319
other thing was I actually was flying another vehicle because
1922
01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:42.520
I asked them before. I said, well, you teach me
1923
01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:45.199
how to fly a vehicle. And you understand that that
1924
01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:48.359
sometimes your memory comes back. It's it's different times. It's
1925
01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:51.880
not always chronological, okay, So you're going to have stuff
1926
01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:54.159
that came in and out. And I remember I was
1927
01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.720
flying with somebody one time, and it was with just
1928
01:48:56.800 --> 01:48:59.239
one craft and they said, well, we're going to hit
1929
01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:01.079
some wires and stuff there, said hold on, say it
1930
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:02.720
doesn't work like that. We're just going to go right
1931
01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:05.560
through it. And that's what we did. So we're able
1932
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:11.119
to take a physical spaceship and fly through stuff like
1933
01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.960
it wasn't even there, you know, and places we've been
1934
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.439
all over all over the galaxy and been all over
1935
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:19.520
the place. Hey, I have to understand it when they
1936
01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:21.520
when they open up a portal, you could be in
1937
01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:23.920
one galaxy and go to another galaxy and it doesn't
1938
01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.039
take long at all. I mean, it's just like that,
1939
01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:29.199
you're another galaxy. So it doesn't take very long to
1940
01:49:29.239 --> 01:49:31.199
go through these times and space and stuff like that.
1941
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:34.000
And it's all about purpose. Where we go is everything
1942
01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:36.880
is about purpose. It's about trust. It's about purpose. If
1943
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:39.039
they feel they can trust you and you have value
1944
01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:40.359
of them to come and get you, you go do
1945
01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:42.560
things and that's what you do.
1946
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:46.399
Do you think that this is happening to everyone across
1947
01:49:46.439 --> 01:49:49.039
the board, that each and every person on this planet
1948
01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:51.720
is having some sort of experience with these.
1949
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.239
Beings, No, I don't. I think there are very few
1950
01:49:55.239 --> 01:49:58.520
and far between. I think they're very few far between.
1951
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:00.720
The people like me. You know, I have to I
1952
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:02.760
have to really be careful what I say and what
1953
01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:08.640
I do, and and you know, being a religious person
1954
01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:15.600
and having a religious background, we don't comprehend everything that
1955
01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:17.239
we say and do, so we have to be careful
1956
01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:19.800
what we say because there may be some things fighting
1957
01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:22.039
battles for us that we don't even know. So you
1958
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.359
have to be careful how you what you do toward
1959
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:30.119
people and stuff like that, because there could be somethings,
1960
01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:31.960
some some things that happen.
1961
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:37.680
Are these do you think these extraterrestrial spiritual beings?
1962
01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:40.279
I think they're beings just like us. They just have
1963
01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:42.880
different abilities. Sure they're spiritual beings, but I mean they're
1964
01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:45.560
depends on what you call like angelic is what you're saying.
1965
01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:50.039
Well, some consider these beings to be angels. But what
1966
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:53.800
I'm really asking if if they have a some sort
1967
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.319
of spiritual practice or belief system that they follow.
1968
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:01.960
Well I did ask him this, if they believe in God?
1969
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:04.079
They said, yes, there is a God. So there's a
1970
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:08.399
hierarchy there. So there's God, there's Yahweh, there's Jesus. They
1971
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:10.479
believe in all that they believe in, in the counsel
1972
01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:12.960
and stuff that's below all them too. They believe in
1973
01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:16.479
the hierarchy system. And you have to understand that there's
1974
01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:20.119
one true being, okay, and that is a spiritual God.
1975
01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:22.920
He is a spiritual God. And then below that you
1976
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.079
have his son, Jesus Christ, and then after that you
1977
01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:28.840
have all these other things that are there. They created
1978
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:31.840
all this stuff, and it's very real. It's there and
1979
01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:36.159
it's very real. I mean, even the Bible talks about
1980
01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:39.359
as a third of the angels came down, you know,
1981
01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:44.359
and they were able to procreate with women, and they
1982
01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:47.680
cause all these giants they calls all these different offspring.
1983
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:50.319
Who's to say it's not still going on.
1984
01:51:51.800 --> 01:51:55.439
Do you think a government is aware of the bigfoot situation?
1985
01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:59.479
Oh? Very aware, sure they are. They know that a
1986
01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.680
national all these Yeah, all these governmentaces know about all that.
1987
01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:04.520
It's just if it gets out of whack, then they
1988
01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:08.600
send people to to eliminate certain ones that are bad.
1989
01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:10.640
If they're really bad, then they have to go they
1990
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:11.920
have to take care of the problem. They have to
1991
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.039
go eliminate them.
1992
01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:18.880
Really, have you heard anything about some of these agencies
1993
01:52:19.039 --> 01:52:24.800
or or groups that are involved with clean up crews
1994
01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:28.800
of sightings of bigfoots or even like you said, going
1995
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:32.159
after to to exterminate them.
1996
01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:35.319
Yes, I have. I can't talk about that a lot, though.
1997
01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:37.319
I'll just say yes that that's real and it's very real.
1998
01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:40.720
That's all I'm gonna say about that is it's a lot.
1999
01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.199
It's I can say this. It's a lot closer than
2000
01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:43.680
you thinking.
2001
01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:47.079
You know, and have you just maybe if you could
2002
01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:49.760
just answer this, have you had a personal encounter with
2003
01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:52.159
some of these agencies or groups?
2004
01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:54.279
No?
2005
01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:55.319
I haven't.
2006
01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:59.319
Okay, interesting now ever I don't.
2007
01:52:59.399 --> 01:53:03.039
I don't get them unless and nah, I stay away
2008
01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:05.760
from all that. That's that's that's not my job. It's
2009
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:07.680
not what I do. So I stay away from all that.
2010
01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:12.279
So was the encounter in your bedroom with the orbs
2011
01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:15.600
and the blue beings the the last encounter that you had.
2012
01:53:19.479 --> 01:53:21.039
I have dreams all the time, you know. So I
2013
01:53:21.039 --> 01:53:24.039
have experiences well some people call out of body experiences,
2014
01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:26.079
but they're really in body experiences. I have that all
2015
01:53:26.079 --> 01:53:29.680
the time. But that's the most unique one, I would say,
2016
01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:34.800
very unique. And would you say I never had thing
2017
01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:37.960
that that I was awake? So to say I never
2018
01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:40.960
had anything where I woke up and it was still here. Okay,
2019
01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:43.439
the only thing I've ever had was some some stuff
2020
01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:45.079
in the past that I've had. When I was younger,
2021
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:47.760
a lot younger, I had some things happen and I
2022
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:53.720
was threatened by a I call Egyptian doghead person let
2023
01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:55.560
me just stay down, But I never stayed down. I
2024
01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:59.079
always kept on going forward, so didn't let it threaten me.
2025
01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:04.720
The experience in your bedroom. Were you completely lucid and
2026
01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:12.720
awake during this experience? As far as what you will
2027
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:16.359
be looking at in the future, do you have any
2028
01:54:16.439 --> 01:54:22.720
future plans for research or exploration or ideas on how
2029
01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:25.199
you could further explore this phenomenon.
2030
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:34.239
I always try to like last October, I loved Almaha,
2031
01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:38.039
Nebraska and Mason, Nebraska, saying that I needed That's all
2032
01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:39.840
I needed to I didn't want to see anything else
2033
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:41.960
because I had seen everything I wanted to see, and
2034
01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:43.600
I said, I don't have to do any more research,
2035
01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:46.560
because once you experience something, it's kind of like for
2036
01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:50.720
some people may go to vacation somewhere, I see one area,
2037
01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:52.560
then I go to another area and see another part
2038
01:54:52.600 --> 01:54:54.039
of the United States or something like that. For me,
2039
01:54:54.399 --> 01:54:57.359
I had seen everything I wanted to see there. I
2040
01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:01.239
had seen sasquatch. There were thirt team fourteen feet tall.
2041
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:03.119
I've been face to face with them. I had one
2042
01:55:03.199 --> 01:55:05.800
try to reach in the vehicle and try to grab
2043
01:55:05.840 --> 01:55:07.680
my iPhone. I've got a picture of that. I've got
2044
01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:09.760
see everything that I have, I've got pictures of it.
2045
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:13.239
That's what makes it so unique, you know. And when
2046
01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:16.000
you really start getting down and talking us to people,
2047
01:55:16.039 --> 01:55:17.720
people don't They don't want what I want to do
2048
01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:19.239
with all. They don't want to deal with this at all,
2049
01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:21.960
you know. But I'm not scared anymore. I mean, everything
2050
01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:24.920
that I've done, I want to go do some research
2051
01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.800
this year. But I'm kind of I'm kind of being
2052
01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:30.880
told to wait. So I'm like, all right, I'll just
2053
01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:34.159
kind of wait and see what happens. It seems to
2054
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:36.000
be coming to me. I don't have to go to it,
2055
01:55:36.079 --> 01:55:38.720
if that makes sense, you know. And so all everything
2056
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:42.319
comes to me, and so I'm kind of like, all right,
2057
01:55:42.319 --> 01:55:43.960
I'm gonna wait, coming and pick me up, let's go.
2058
01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:48.000
That's what I've been getting at lately is come and
2059
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:49.720
get me, let me be awake this whole time, and
2060
01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:52.199
let me go deal with some stuff and you download
2061
01:55:52.199 --> 01:55:54.319
what they need to download in my head to protect
2062
01:55:54.319 --> 01:55:56.399
myself or whatever I need to do, because that's how
2063
01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:58.439
it actually works. You know, if you don't have something,
2064
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:00.439
they just download the information to you.
2065
01:56:01.439 --> 01:56:02.119
Do you think that.
2066
01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:07.800
These beings are going to be accepting of being able
2067
01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:10.920
to interact with humans if we are indeed having this
2068
01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:14.399
mass awakening and will become more aware or how do
2069
01:56:14.479 --> 01:56:15.680
these beings feel about that?
2070
01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:20.760
Well, like I said before, you know, you got you
2071
01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.760
got some beings that it depends upon their approach, not
2072
01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:26.279
our approach, but their approach, and it has to be
2073
01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:29.920
like my instances. So this has been since twenty nineteen,
2074
01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:33.239
my grate awakening. I've seen stuff all my life, you know,
2075
01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:36.479
but I didn't really put it all together, didn't really
2076
01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:39.239
recognize it. Now it's starting to become to start to evolve.
2077
01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:42.640
Everything's coming together now, and so that's the way they're
2078
01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:45.079
going to pro if you if you are approached. If not,
2079
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.119
then I think a lot of people are just going
2080
01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:51.319
to be exposed to it, you know, but they have
2081
01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:52.920
to be careful that too, because you know a lot
2082
01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:55.199
of people get gets fear and they get a spirit
2083
01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:56.960
of fear and they start shooting at stuff and everything.
2084
01:56:56.960 --> 01:56:58.279
You know, if you're scared, you can get a gun
2085
01:56:58.279 --> 01:57:00.560
and start shooting at them and all that. Which really,
2086
01:57:01.720 --> 01:57:04.920
unless something is trying to hurt you or threatened you,
2087
01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:06.840
you shouldn't take it as a threat, but as just
2088
01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:10.479
something trying to interact with us, you know. And so
2089
01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:16.319
a lot of instances that I heard of, I've heard
2090
01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:19.520
that when it comes to big Foot dog Man all
2091
01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:22.560
that that they they actually had shot at things and
2092
01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:26.319
hit them and stuff like that. And some of these
2093
01:57:26.359 --> 01:57:27.960
things you can kill, some of them you can't kill.
2094
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:31.119
So that's the other thing you have to have to understand,
2095
01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:33.119
is you some things you can't kill. They can kill
2096
01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:37.319
some of them someone you can't. But yeah, because everything
2097
01:57:37.479 --> 01:57:41.560
happens for a reason, right, and then our reaction is
2098
01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:43.880
going to depend upon where we go and how we
2099
01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:44.439
keep going.
2100
01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:49.239
Now you are a hunter, you're a deer hunter. How
2101
01:57:49.279 --> 01:57:52.800
do they feel about humans killing and hunting animals?
2102
01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:55.960
Then they don't really say too much, you know. I
2103
01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:58.479
mean they know that we're there for me and that
2104
01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:00.399
that's what we do. We eat those things, you know,
2105
01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.000
and some of those eat it too, So I mean
2106
01:58:04.239 --> 01:58:06.159
they actually use sticks and stuff like that in the
2107
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:09.039
rocks to warn the deer, and they eat it. So
2108
01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:11.279
they like the They like the inside of the deer
2109
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:14.079
more than anything. They like all the hearts and the
2110
01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:17.079
livers and stuff like that. For them, it's it's tasty.
2111
01:58:17.479 --> 01:58:19.800
Same thing with pigs, you know. They may eat part
2112
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:21.319
of a pig the man I eat the rest of them,
2113
01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:27.319
and sometimes they'll eat the whole thing. But yeah, they
2114
01:58:27.319 --> 01:58:29.359
do get a little upset, you know, because it's kind
2115
01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:32.159
of like their pets at times. The last two deer
2116
01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:34.199
that I've shot, I've got some loop because of it.
2117
01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:36.000
You know, They've told me some stuff, but they don't
2118
01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:38.159
they don't try to stop me. You know, they haven't
2119
01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:41.680
tried to zap me or do anything like that. You know. So,
2120
01:58:41.800 --> 01:58:45.119
last two deer I've had, I've had them right by
2121
01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:48.479
me one time. The next time they made some kind
2122
01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:50.840
of noise a me a little look like that, you know,
2123
01:58:52.279 --> 01:58:53.319
different noise and stuff.
2124
01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:57.479
So yeah, oh man, this is incredible, Scott, You've had
2125
01:58:57.479 --> 01:59:01.439
some incredible experiences. Before we close go out, Is there
2126
01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:04.800
anything else that has happened since the last time we
2127
01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:06.920
spoke that we didn't cover yet?
2128
01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:10.880
I think that's it. Everything else has happened on the
2129
01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:13.039
last few years. You know that I've had stuff as
2130
01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:16.039
different experiences with bigfoot stuff and him exposing themselves to
2131
01:59:16.119 --> 01:59:20.199
me and just let me know if they're in the area,
2132
01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:23.359
different signs, different things that they do, you know, they
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do those things. So but other than that, that's it. Yeah,
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that's pretty much.
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Well, that's incredible enough. That's more than enough to keep
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fascinated here, Scott, So thank you so much for coming
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on again, and we will definitely be talking again soon.
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I'm going to try and make another trip down in
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Louisiana within the next year or so, so we'll get
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together and see what else we can come up with,
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for sure. And until next time, everyone, have an excellent eating.
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We will talk again tomorrow and we'll see y'all.
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Then.
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Many of us have woken up to the fake money
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in the banking scam, fake health, the Thorne