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So we tried to film this, but then the audio was caca, crap.
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Yeah, we tried to record, we actually recorded this episode. Not good.
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We recorded it. I was editing this episode and it just, it sounded like we were underwater.
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So we're back again. It's just me and Yanni today to talk about Ghostbusters
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Afterlife and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.
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Now, Ghostbusters Afterlife came out a few years back. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire came out this year.
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And we're just going to talk about them. Dude, but we typically do stuff you
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like, stuff you didn't like, favorite character, not favorite character,
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character you're like. Yes, exactly.
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We're a little rusty. It's been a while. I think the last episode we recorded
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was about our cruise that we took back in December. Our bad.
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Look, life has been very- We've been doing a lot. We went to Hawaii.
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Now we went to Japan. We went to Minnesota for nationals. We were in the gymnastics
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city USA where the Olympic trials took place.
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Yes. We did a lot. We've been doing a lot for the last few months.
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And sitting down and recording a podcast was just not on the agenda.
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I couldn't say it better myself. Yes.
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And so you said Na went to Japan.
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I don't know if the audience is familiar with who you're talking about. Ariana went to Japan.
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So Yanni calls Ariana Na. She's called her that since she was a baby because
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she couldn't say Ariana, but she could always say Na.
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So even to this day, that's what Yanni calls Ari.
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The rest of us call her Ari. and Yanni is the only person that can call Ari
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no no so yes she went to Japan it was there's been a lot going on we had a death
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in the family recently so had to mom whom we love,
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whom we love and I had to go to a funeral to pay respects to a family member
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and so So for the month of June, we traveled a lot. Yes.
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Three times? Yeah. Me and mom three times. I went twice. You twice.
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Twice. And yeah, she went twice. But she went to Japan.
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She went to Japan. Yeah, like the country of the rising sun.
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So that's why we haven't been around in a while. And then coming up,
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leading up to June was, you know, finals and star testing and AP testing and
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just school stuff in general and then work.
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And just we just it's been very busy.
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Now it's, you know, the middle of the middle of July yet. But it's July 7th,
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the day that we're recording this.
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And we have a little time. So.
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You know, Yanni and I are going to talk about Ghostbusters Afterlife and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.
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And then I think we're also in a next episode going to talk about Planet of the Apes.
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Because Yanni has recently become a fan of Planet of the Apes,
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the newer movies, including the one that just came out, Kingdom.
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Of the Planet of the Apes. Yes. I don't know the next time that all three of us will record.
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Hopefully that will happen soon. but Ari
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is working she works this summer
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also she has a car yeah she's got
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a car yeah she got a car she got car because
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my parents are crazy people yeah a little bit
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that's what the guy that sold us the car said he said y'all are crazy
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but she has
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a car she she goes to work so I don't know
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how that's gonna look although she does not work on Sundays so that
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we we'll try to get her in for an episode and
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i think i just want to do like a random stuff episode well she'll
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talk about japan we could talk a little bit about hawaii we could talk
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about gymnastic city usa in in that episode we can just talk about we could
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just we could just talk i'm getting more comfortable with the idea of just having
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just general conversations about just random stuff for episodes instead of it
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always being about reviewing something
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which we'll still do that but you know yeah i think we're we are the funniest
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when we're just talking yeah i mean the four of us mom included like when we're
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just in the house and we're just randomly talking that's when the magic happens
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we just we we have dark humor.
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And yeah it's just that's i think that's when we would be the most entertaining,
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all that being said let's go ahead and jump in and let's talk about Bustin'.
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Bustin' because... It makes me feel good.
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We're back with more episodes of Dumb Dialogue with Dad. I'm Ari. I'm Yanni. I'm Dad.
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Expect a lot of reviews, but also serious things, like pineapples and why they eat you back.
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Pineapples don't eat you back. Yes, they do. How does a pineapple eat you back?
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Well, you see, we also talk about vacation, school, and things about growing up.
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And I get to spend time with my darling daughters. You're such a dad.
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Anyway, we'd like to dive deep into the Marvel Universe, the Harry Potter Universe,
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and popular Netflix series.
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Not sponsored not yet but how all
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be found on dumb dialogue with dad which starts now
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single mom mother and her two children moved to a new town
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they soon discovered they have a connection to the original ghostbusters and
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the secret legacy their grandfather father left behind we
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don't really remember what happened in these movies okay yes
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afterlife in like april march something like that can't even remember and then
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a while ago as well yeah because i think frozen empire streaming now isn't it
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streaming on prime video if not i mean it's probably going to i think it is streaming.
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Wow it made a lot of money anyway yeah so
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we're gonna do our best to to really do a good recap of the movie here's what
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i'll start off with ghostbusters afterlife has a direct link to the first ghostbusters
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movie from the ghostbusters movies ghostbusters movie from the 80s the The original.
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Yes. I would say...
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Ghostbusters Afterlife has a more direct line to that first Ghostbusters movie
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than the second Ghostbusters movie has to the first one. I have not seen the
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second Ghostbusters movie.
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I know it's not. It's it in. So, OK, so in the continuity of it, it's almost like it.
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That second Ghostbusters movie was retconned by Afterlife.
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The events of that second Ghostbusters movie aren't really ever.
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Maybe. Maybe they are saving it because they are going to make,
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what, one or two more of these at least? Probably. So maybe.
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Maybe that's why they haven't talked about them. But that second Ghostbusters
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movie, the baby, the big bad in that tried to possess the baby.
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But no mention of that in Afterlife.
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But Afterlife has that direct line back to the first movie because it follows the family of?
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Egon Spangler. yes who was an original ghostbuster now
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i felt nothing you you felt nothing well you felt the
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enjoyment of the movie okay whatever all right but there's
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no nostalgic factor for you because you were
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not alive in the 80s you weren't even alive when the first ghost when the first
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ones came out i wasn't alive but i did watch it because it was still your era
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right so so just the some of the references a lot of the things that happened
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in Afterlife mirror what happened in the first one.
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So it was nostalgic for me because that first Ghostbusters movie was pretty
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iconic or is pretty iconic.
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So obviously, as a millennial and having seen the first one,
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that's the feels I got. A millennial who is a nerd.
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I am a nerd. A blurred.
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Whatever. One could say. Shut up. All right.
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But I thought the movie Afterlife overall in general was fine.
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It was, you know, it's not like a blockbuster hit, but I enjoyed it.
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You know what I'm saying? I enjoyed it too.
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So a lot of people say a movie is good or bad.
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I don't really like to leave it at just good or bad. I like to say.
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Because there's so many things that make a movie a movie.
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were there because you know actors what they're given is what
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they're given so they have to work with that maybe you
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maybe you don't you really hate the plot and you really hated
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the acting but you thought the set and designs were quite lovely
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more complex than just oh this was a good movie this is a bad what makes a movie
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good what makes a movie bad it's subjective exactly i will sit and and watch
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what most people would consider to be a bad movie and sit and watch the whole
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thing there is a movie called mandela effect literally i don't know if it's
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still on hulu but it was on hulu.
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By most standards most people would say it was a bad movie but i enjoyed it
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because of the topic at hand afterlife kind of follows that same thing i'm not
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going to say it's it's i don't think anyone one could say Afterlife is a bad,
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well, probably somebody would say it's a bad movie,
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but I don't think it's more to it than that. You know what I'm saying?
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It's just, it was an enjoyable movie. Yeah. Especially for the nostalgic factor
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for me. I love McKenna Grace.
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McKenna Grace is great. And Finn Wolfhard. Yeah, yeah. Both great films.
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house young sheldon yeah haunting of hill
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the handmaid's tale designated survivor she's in
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a lot she's in what's called gifted she's in
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wolfhard with finn wolfhard i mean it speaks for itself so paul rudd's in this
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some of the og ghostbusters pop up we're not going to go over the entire plot
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that's just not what we do but the plot was good and it brings back all of those
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things troop zero that's what it's called it's a movie where she's in a
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camping group also she's young captain marvel
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i tanya like tanya strong from tanya you know from like this movie she was young
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captain marvel yeah she's in a show that haunts my nightmares what is it it's
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called a friend of the family oh i don't i've I've never seen that. Don't.
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I'll start with you. What was your favorite part of Ghostbusters Afterlife? Oh, God. Okay.
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I really like, I feel like I'm changing my answer from when we first did this,
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but I really like when we're first in the classroom, like her summer school,
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and they just have random horror movies playing.
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the movie, but they actually visibly show the ghost of Egon at the end.
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He doesn't say a word. does not say anything but the effect
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the effect and they did that very well he
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didn't overstay his welcome no he did what he had to
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then he that he finished his business and then he went on to
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where you know the afterlife hey that's
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the yeah yeah part of the movie title um
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dogs and they have to like mate oh yeah the gatekeeper
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the key master yeah which was fun for me because
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the gatekeeper and the key master are in the original movie
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their mom when they have
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they have to mate for zoolta okay that part okay i mean they don't show it no
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it's insinuated yeah do that in the original just for the sake of time i'm gonna
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go ahead and say my least favorite part my least favorite part what's your least
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favorite part thank you for asking i'm going to probably say.
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I don't think I have one. And I think I said that when we originally recorded
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this. Solid movie. Just solid.
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Who's your favorite character? Phoebe. Yeah. Phoebe.
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Phoebe's great. Who's your favorite character? Hot gas.
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Who's your least favorite character? And you can get into why you love podcasts.
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My least favorite character? Yeah.
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I'm going to say their mom. Look up and see the characters. Hey.
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We can't just call their mom. She has a name. She does something Spangler. Cassie? No, not Cassie.
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Callie. Callie. And that's only for the first part of the movie.
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She doesn't do much. She doesn't do much. Yeah.
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And I'm nitpicking when I say that.
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me so yeah nitpicking i know
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why phoebe's your favorite because she just steals the show
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right you just winked like she does podcast is my favorite podcast was hilarious
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he's carrying around this big microphone he's just it's he was funny he was
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my he was just hilarious to me not so much in frozen empire but we'll get to that here in a bit
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your least favorite character oh you said you didn't have one that's right and
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now it's character we're like well are we gonna do favorite part least favorite
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part oh we did that already yes okay you suck at this i rusty at this okay you're
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gary i am gary because gary.
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Dad he has dad energy yeah and obviously
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i have dad energy i would hope so yes the
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character that you are most like is phoebe you agree with
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that yes okay why tell me dry
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dry humor and you you you have
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dry humor that hits sometimes you'll
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say something and i don't even know if you're trying to be funny
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like an awkward golden labrador not
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a retriever i mean yeah but she's she's intelligent she's
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very much into this whole thing of trying to figure out what what's going
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on in this movie in terms of like the weird stuff that starts to happen and
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the stuff that's happening around the town that's weird and then how that all
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ties into her lineage with her grandfather i mean everyone thought our grandfather
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was weird what's that everyone thought her grandfather oh yeah yeah Yeah, absolutely.
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So it she she plays that character the only way that character should be played. McKenna Grace does.
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And it tied back to Egon, who was he himself considered to be odd.
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In that first movie, he was. So it's great. It's great how she,
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the character, you know, just ties back to her grandfather like that.
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Afterlife. I mean, Afterlife. Good, good. Like I said, solid.
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It's cold. It's cold.
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Direct sequel to... Bazinga.
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Bazinga. Direct sequel to Afterlife. The Spangler family returns to the iconic
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New York City firehouse where the original Ghostbusters have taken Ghostbusting to the next level.
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When the discovery of an ancient artifact unleashes an evil force.
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Ghostbusters new and old must unite to protect their home and save the world from a second Ice Age.
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That is the description of the movie. That is the description of the movie.
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covid yes so it has a
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different vibe to it and and you know i
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don't know if if you know the first afterlife felt very deserted
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york so it feels urban yes yes so the
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vibe of it is obviously different and i think for for
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you which one you like the best out of the two i i'll
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answer that later too but the different vibe does not
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original movie like afterlife does i think
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afterlife was very much a requel as
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a sequel to sequel to afterlife basically i
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mean there's references obviously because they go
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back to the original firehouse that the first ghostbusters
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takes place in some of the original characters that
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didn't show up in afterlife show up in frozen
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empire so there's that the tie-in is there right and also it kind of does have
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like the same vibe because they're trying to get the ghostbusters shut down
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again yes yes that happens in the first one that does happen in the first one
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so yeah okay so there is more of a tie-in to the first one then he doesn't don't
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remember anything. I'm tired. Shut up.
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It ties into the first one more on the surface than Afterlife. Let me try to explain.
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beneath the surface it's more of the family aspect
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it's intangible the the tie-in for afterlife to
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the original where frozen empire is very
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surface it's very much oh this is the original
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firehouse we're going to go back to and live in this is
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the the city that everything took place in in
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the first movie there these are more of
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the original characters are gonna show up so the the the tie-in is very surface
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level in my opinion not to say that that's bad but that to me is the tie-in
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for it then frozen empire also has a totally new villain where afterlife.
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Rehashes a villain the villain from the first movie
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yeah yeah so
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what was your favorite part a frozen
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empire uh when they go okay hold
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on i need names names yes and also
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just want to say like like i said ghostbusters 2 seems
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to have been retconned like yanni said i
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don't maybe they will do something with that because that
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villain in the second ghostbusters was not someone
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to be messed with i can't remember his name but some
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ancient garaka no from the
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second ghostbusters two two Ghostbusters two
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I hope they do come back in a
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sequel of some sort and they tie back to
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the second Ghostbusters movie because that villain
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was that villain was good and also
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that villain hit home because that villain was actually trying to attack the
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baby of one of the Ghostbusters friends when they go into Nadim's apartment
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to find to see like the you know what I'm talking about Mm-mm. Why not?
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Gotta help me out. I need you to give me more. And go into his apartment to,
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like, because he sold...
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Oh, the thing. Yeah. That Rocco was in or whatever.
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Yeah. His home. Okay. And like the place where his grandmother kept it.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The apartment. That part. I thought that part was great. It was funny.
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Camille Maggiani is very funny. He is. He's hilarious. Especially in this movie.
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He's very funny in this movie. He's like, I was looking for Pop-Tarts. I don't know.
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Or when Trevor started playing with one of the instruments and he's like.
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Because he's trying to match the pitch with it that
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was funny what's your favorite part
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well i also have another favorite part but you go okay
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my favorite part i'm gonna say when they when they all like all of the original
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ghosts but like especially when bill murray's character gosh i'm so bad with
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names bankman bankman came Came back and then when all of them, huh?
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I usually forget his name. Yeah, Venkman. But he's, he's, I don't,
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that's, that's terrible because Bill Murray's just, he's great.
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So that's my favorite part when they all kind of, all of the Ghostbusters new
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and old came together to, to, to do the thing.
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I always like, you know, collective things like that.
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My other favorite part is when Phoebe's playing chess with Melody in the park.
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That was good. that was good melody betrayed
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her but melody she big time
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betrayal she's played by emily allen lind
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who's in gossip girl the the
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remake and also her sister i think
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i think it's olivia allen lind is lexi and chucky
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the lynn sisters a lot of
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them they be acting and their mom backs their and
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their mom acts their mom was in chucky they have another
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sister that was in this show called the gifted which was a spinoff
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of an x-men movie i
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only had two seasons but i thought
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the gift it was was a good show and yeah yeah
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yeah yeah least favorite part for
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you i don't have one me either and maybe
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it's because i can't remember it yeah no i don't think i
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had one when we originally recorded this at like the day.
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my favorite character i'm gonna have
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to not go with podcast this time he wasn't really in it
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he wasn't in it he's in it but not as
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funny as he was in afterlife i'll go
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phoebe she had she dealt with a
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lot in this she you know she turned into a ghost she got betrayed by her ghost
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friend she got frozen her entire family got frozen she had to stop being a ghostbuster
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and then and they all had to stop being ghostbusters eventually but she was
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the first one that had to stop being a ghostbuster because she was too young
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because they can't have minor hanging outside of a car.
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A laser pack but that's not a laser pack i mean
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it's a proton pack but it's pretty much the equivalent of a nuclear weapon
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oh that
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okay when we get to least favorite character
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i i'll talk about that but my favorite character
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is still phoebe yeah but i
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did like trevor in this movie i thought it was pretty funny trevor
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was good trevor had more of a presence in
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this movie than in afterlife yeah yeah afterlife he
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just i don't know he seemed more just teenager-esque yeah
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but i guess in this because he was more grown yeah
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as he said yeah yeah yeah oh slimer's also in this slimer is in this slimer's
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a nasty little guy he's in the original and he's the first ghost they actually
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catch yeah and they make a mess trying to catch him yeah i thought it was very
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funny when they were like okay that'll be two thousand dollars and then like he's looking at
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him and egon's like this because the original ghostbusters written by two ghostbusters
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no kidding i don't think i knew that yeah they had a different name for ghostbusters
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they had ghost catchers that just does not have the same grabbers.
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Bill mary and no no get
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their actual names spangler and stance okay that's
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why the comedy feels very natural natural
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yeah because that part and when they're talking about
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like how much it's going to cost and he's like i will not be paying that and
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they're like no problem we'll just put it right back in there let's just let
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it go yeah i gotta run that original ghost buses back it's been a while with
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you it's been a while since i watched it least favorite character,
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the what's the mayor the him okay so that's what i was gonna my least favorite
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character is the mayor in this. It's so annoying.
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Very annoying. Now, the mayor in Frozen Empire is actually the EPA agent in
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the first Ghostbusters movie who is trying to shut them down.
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And he made them turn off the where they keep the ghosts. Yeah,
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he made them cut off that machine.
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And here we are decades later and nothing has changed.
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He wants to shut the Ghostbusters down again but this time he's the mayor of New York, whatever.
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I just didn't like that guy. Didn't like him then, don't like him now.
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Great actor. Because he's annoying in it. But the character.
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When the trap is green, when the trap is clean, the light is green. Yes.
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He made them turn off the trap. He did. Because it's stupid. Because.
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And then he got mad at the Ghostbusters because the ghost got out.
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Because the ghost got out. Well, what we tell you, bro.
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Right. Told you to stop it and leave us alone.
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I guess, you know, to kind of round this out, which we did this pretty quickly.
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We're professionals that just don't do this professionally. Ah,
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I like that. In professionals.
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Ah, I like it. If you had to pick between the two, which one is your favorite and why?
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Frozen Empire. They feel like a seasoned cast in it. You know,
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like in the first movie, it's like they're trying to find their footing.
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They're trying to understand because like, you know, as an actor,
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especially when you're doing like a remake of something, you watch the original
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to get the inspiration you need.
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Especially if you're playing a character that's like one of the original characters,
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like phoebe and egon you know yeah and
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then in the second one it feels like they've become the characters
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more and i like a i like a bigger location and
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it's better sometimes in new york and i think it's
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funnier and the cast is bigger yeah and
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the cast feels like they actually know the the comedy
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in it felt good because of the cast if it had actual funny
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people in it that aren't like that don't
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do stupid things to be funny
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and their delivery is very good at being comedic well said thank you had you
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thought about this before no great analysis thank you i tried very hard what
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which one's your favorite papa.
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Out of the two which one do
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you prefer and why yes i will
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go with afterlife because it's nostalgic yeah but i mean frozen empire is too
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i mean because new york the mayor does all of that but i don't know it's something
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about i'm a fan of setting things up i let me give you an example,
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And I'm going to go on a little bit of a tangent, so, but just follow me,
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huh? Go. All right. Thank you.
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I don't like zombie movies where they have already started to figure things out.
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Like when they're learning to figure things out.
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I like zombie movies when things just start hitting the fan and they're trying
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to figure out what all of this is.
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Like one of my favorite zombie movies
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of all time is the Dawn of the Dead remake from 2003, I think it is.
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Because the beginning of that movie is the very beginning of that particular zombie apocalypse.
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I also, the walking dead to me,
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the earlier, the first season of the walking dead is very much,
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I'm not going to say it's my favorite because it's, but it's one of my favorites
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because they are also in that moment trying to figure out all the things that are happening.
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But you kind of see where I'm going with this. I like when, when a movie that
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has more than one movie in a series is trying to set things up.
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Hunger games, for example. For example, Hunger Games, my favorite one is the second one.
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And it's because toward the end of the second one is when you start figuring
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out there's more to it than just these games.
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Behind the scenes, people have started to put together the rebellion.
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That's the beginning of what we know of to be the rebellion.
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So bringing it back to Ghostbusters, Afterlife is very much,
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I look at it the same way because it's setting things up.
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One of my favorite Hunger Games is Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.
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Prequel. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that eventually.
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Prequel. Yeah. I'm pointing at the mic, but I'm pretending it's someone's face.
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Okay. All right. I'm pointing at your face now. You are pointing at my face.
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We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about it.
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Yeah. Yeah, so that's why I like Afterlife, because it's... Oh,
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yeah, that's what we're talking about.
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I'm saying all that to say zombie movies and all that to say,
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I like when things are being set up.
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I don't dislike Frozen Empire, but for the same reason that it's your favorite
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between the two, because they have settled into who they are,
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is why it's not my favorite of the two, because they have settled into who they are.
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I really like sequels.
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Good sequels. Yeah, I really like... that like okay would scream i'm gonna talk
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about it okay and my favorite one is the first one,
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of course i love the original it's my favorite
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one because it's great yeah but
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my second favorite scream movie is none of the ones that not not the original
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trilogy not even the fourth one my second favorite scream movie is the fifth
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one and my third favorite one is the is the sixth one i watch the fifth one
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quite often the time i love it it's because the fifth one sets up new stuff
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Yeah, I really like new characters,
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especially in something as old as Scream. Scream's, yeah.
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It's not that old, but like something that's been going on for a very long time
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and has like a lot of the same cast.
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Yeah, yeah. But when you bring in new people, you have an opportunity to do
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so much more to keep this like...
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This franchise alive when for because let's
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face it the original cast isn't going to be
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alive forever right it's like a past the torch kind of
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thing yes when they can find a cast that is suited the
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way they need to be to be in the franchise that
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they're in and that's what after not after like
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that's what frozen empire feels like because these characters are so
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much like the original that it feels like.
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When the original cast can
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be done with ghostbusters we still have a good
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cast that feels like the ghostbusters i like
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it i like that i like that breakdown and i
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and i and i understand that you know the original
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ghostbusters are not as much a.
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Part of afterlife as they are frozen empire they're.
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Like the the original ghostbusters are
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because even in the movies their characters don't want to be
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like right especially in the first and after like they've not they're like
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we're done with ghosts yeah they're like that that's not a part of our lives right but
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then they stuff starts happening that
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kind of pulls them back in but eventually they're gonna go out
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yeah not coming back in yeah yeah the door will be locked okay that's
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so when you can find a cast that
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understands how your franchise is supposed to work i really
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like that and that's why i like frozen empire that i like
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it i like i like how you broke that
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down and i would agree with you always to
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or almost to the point of i still
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like to have the setup of that of that
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00:33:32,436
of that thing that you were talking about the setup of the new
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cat the new cast that can carry the torch and
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you know keep it going i just
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i like an afterlife that they're still trying to figure out what
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what is going on what is happening like how
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does this all tie together and then what does
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that mean for us as you know the cat
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you know the the characters in this you really like day ones
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you should watch a quiet place day one i i probably would like it it's the first
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yeah i probably days and i'll probably but see to have content but see then
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that the thing about that though is You have to have context enough whenever you Star Wars.
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Let me go. Let me go on another tangent real quick.
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Star Wars is great because at least the Skywalker saga of Star Wars,
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which is most of it at this point.
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The setup of everything that they've done in the past few years,
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some of the other stories that they've told surrounding the Skywalker saga is
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very much set up in tie-ins, right?
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That's why I like Afterlife more because it sets up and ties in in a way that just makes sense to me.
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Just like how going back
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and watching star wars rebels the cartoon sets up
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and ties into episode four of
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star wars which is the first movie of of
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of anything that we've seen from star wars is episode
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four but it's that set up and tie-in piece
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that really that i really
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like that's why i like when i think about some of
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00:35:14,270
the things from star wars star wars rebels the cartoon is great
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clone wars sets up and ties
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into episode three so frozen
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empire at this point there's no setup there's still
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tie-in but that setup piece is not there you know what i'm saying so for me
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00:35:35,590
it's very much set it up and tie it in i'm locked in that was really good deep
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00:35:39,370
analysis that we just did there for the last few minutes yeah did we say what
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characters were like no we did not.
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Gary gary i'm
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gary still yeah and you're still
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phoebe still yeah and phoebe calls gary dad i call you dad well you i you i
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00:36:02,930
are your dad i i am gary is not her dad it's not a specifically dad but but
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her step dad yeah yeah we did not do like spoiler alert before this.
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I'll put it in the description read the description it's your fault for watching
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00:36:16,150
something about a movie and expecting not to hear anything about the movie that yeah.
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I mean, we just put the blame on you, the listener, but it is your own fault. Wow.
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Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, I think we tied it up pretty nicely and in less
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than 45 minutes. So, yeah, that's it.
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Hopefully we'll get back on some regular recording schedule like I mentioned earlier.
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In the meantime, we did. I did recently re-release our Juneteenth episode on Juneteenth.
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00:36:46,898
Obviously, it's not Juneteenth anymore. more but that's the
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most recently released episode is our juneteenth episode
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00:36:52,738
from way way back um our most
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00:36:55,558
recent episode is we'll talk about going on the disney
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00:37:01,598
wish but we got other episodes so go and check us out you can go to our website
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00:37:07,978
which is the 3dpod.podbean.com all of our episodes are there you can follow
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00:37:14,898
us on instagram we are at dumb dialogue with dad at all one word on Instagram.
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00:37:19,338
That's the only place you can follow us at Facebook to same handle.
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We're not on Twitter X or whatever they call it now.
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00:37:31,258
And you can email us if you have questions or you want us to discuss something,
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you can email us at the 3d pod at outlook.com.
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00:37:38,578
That's something I know. Hey, there it is. Yeah. Yeah. There it is.
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So hopefully we'll be back. Like I said, regularly recording
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00:37:45,758
but probably not every two weeks how we were there for
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00:37:49,458
a while uh but until you hear from us next stay
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dumb where do stylish ghosts.
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Music.
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Go shopping fancy boo teaks boo with the wink like phoebe how does a ghost unlock
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a door using a spoo key one more one more okay okay Okay. Where do ghosts go trick or treating?
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Music.
