R.I.P. Gene Hackman + DC Studios Slate Update

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You were listening to DC on screen.
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Okay, okay, welcome in to DC on Screen. I'm David c.
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Robertson this of course, Jason Goss. Hello, who boy? Well, uh,
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last news episode, we were gonna come back.
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They released all the news.
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I might it might feel like it. So the last
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news episode, I said that we were gonna try to
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come back because I finished kite Man, and I was like,
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you know what, we should talk about kite Man. Uh,
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we didn't get to that, and then all this news
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in the world.
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I forgot entirely that that was the plan until the
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moment you just said that right then, mm hmm yeah,
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which is fine because I had finished it already.
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Yeah, but like, I mean, you know, I want to,
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you know, throw in my thoughts and stuff and have
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an episode about kite Man. No one ever says, hey,
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we gotta you gotta talk about kite Man. No one
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ever says that. I just wanted to. But you know what,
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all this news started. We got enough news and I
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was like, oh, yeah, we should probably talk about that.
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We could just do a little bit of news and
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do a little a little kite Man episode. And then
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all the news came out and I was like, oh,
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oh okay, yeah, oh some of us real bummer news too.
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Oh well, I do you know some of that.
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Yeah, I guess we need to go and get it,
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get that, get get that out of the way. Not
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that it's like a thing that we I don't want
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to be disrespectful and be like, well, we're just gonna
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get just out of the way. Fuck this guy. I'm
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sad about it. Gene Hackman and his wife and one
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of their dogs, for God's sake, found dead in their
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Santa Fe home this week. Yeah. Uh, Betsy Arakawa sixty four.
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Gene Hackman himself was ninety five. Dog. They didn't stay
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how old they still have to cut off the tail
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and count the rings. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know,
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but very STI to.
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Look up the pep work on the on the dog yet.
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Yeah, very strange. It was a German shepherd.
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But we only have three stages. Yeah, puppy, normal and old.
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I don't know how does described that.
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But yeah, I mean I say the same thing about humans. Yeah,
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it's like, is your baby and then your normal and
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then you're old.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a I mean I can
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look at a human be like you're forty seven and
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just take a guess and with a dog. I'm not
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like you're seven years and four months, aren't you? No
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bitch could be three or five then.
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But yeah, you know, sorry, you know, we because we
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are who we are. We can't get through anything sad
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without making a joke or something. But great Gene Hackman,
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you know, and Oscar Winner. It's a weird set of events.
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You know. They looks like some what was it gardening
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staff or something that came and saw that the door
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was a jar and saw him lay laying in the
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floor through the windows and called the police. And the
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police came and they don't think it's carbon monoxide poisoning
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at this point, they don't think it's a gas leak.
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It doesn't look like any foul play. And then they
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came out and said that they checked his pacemaker and
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the last event quote unquote, and the pacemaker was on
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the seventeenth, So they've been dead for a while or
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he has anyway, Like he was in the mud room,
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she was in the bathroom and there were pill bottles
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and a live dog next to her. There was another
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live dog in their property. I don't know it's a scene.
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But her hands and feet were mummified. Yeah, that's what
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they said, is like her hands and feet had started
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the mummification process. God, and her face was swollen, so
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they thought she had been dead for a quote some time,
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which would make sense if it was the seventeenth. Yeah,
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this is just crazy, dude, Like they don't know. They
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feel like it's suspicious enough to warrant a full investigation.
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So wordline died by Poltle Guys right now, Like, that's
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just a weird fucking scene.
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Yeah, yeah, fucker, It's is a bizarre thing. You know,
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he's been he's been retired for something like seventeen eighteen
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years something like that. Crazy. Yeah, he's been like chilling
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at home writing novels and shit. He just oh yeah, yeah,
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kind of want to go and look and see if
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I find one. I'll read a Gene Hackman novel.
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Yeah, that has a ring to it. Actually, a Gene
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Hackman novel does have a it does a different area.
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He could have really had a good byelight mm hmm.
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Anyway, so we got a little note from Eli Hernandez
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about Gene Hackman. Says, uh rip Gene Hackman. DC fans
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will always remember him as Lex Luthor, but my favorite
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performance of his will always be of him as the
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sheriff little Bill Daggett and Unforgiven, Dude, I'm forgive it
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such a good movie and he was so good in it.
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But he's good in everything. He's just got that quality
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to him, like one of those dudes who you look
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at him and you think, like he probably should be
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a character actor. Nah, he was a leading man dude. Yeah,
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he was just too damn good.
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He physically reminds me of just several old dudes I know,
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mm hmm.
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But even when he was young kind of.
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Well then I was young too, and he at that
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time reminded me of just several old dudes.
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I know.
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Yeah, right, So that dynamic ever changed.
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Yeah, I mean, like look at him in like I
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don't know, Superman, You're like, ah, he was like thirty there. Yeah,
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he's also still kind of seemed like he was like
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seventy five. I don't know, there eat a quality to him.
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Tim Allen fire over on threads. You know, Tim from
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Squadcast has a question to us. For us, he says,
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with the loss of gene and reflecting on his portrayal,
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of Lex Luthor. Was his comedic take fine as a
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one time thing to fit the target general audience, or
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did it add an important aspect to the Luthor mythos
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that should remain today.
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I do think I like it more as just his thing,
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just as his thing. I think so, hey, we could
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probably revisit it at some point for funzies. And I think,
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you know, certain elements of that whimsical version maybe shut
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up and John Cryer's performance.
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But yeah, I was definitely inspired.
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Yeah, and that that must have been very much, very
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much intentional for him, I think.
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But well, I mean he was his nephew and Superman for.
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Yeah, I think it probably it probably fit that exact
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type of movie the best so far.
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Yeah, Lex Luthor Criminal mind. Yeah, yeah, I'll say this, Tim,
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and thank you for the question.
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Man.
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I personally think there is a lot of room for
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comedy in the character of Lex Luthor. I think Hackman
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really did play with the used car salesman huckster element,
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like they didn't really hit on like the you know,
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swave businessman character in the comics yet that didn't come
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around until I guess post crisis, right. I think that
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was who John Byrne maybe Man of Steel series, but kind.
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Of hardly remember him from the early versions.
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I mean he was just like a scientist. Yeah, it's
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just yeah, but something I think.
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Evident, you know, copper locks, I guess.
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Yeah, yeah, it was like totally like the reason he
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started being bald in the comics is because they accidentally
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like put the wrong word bubble on Lex Luthor's bald henchman.
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That was it.
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Yeah, somebody later retcon that into a fire m well
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and well well done, but but yeah, it was just
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one of those mistakes.
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Yeah, it was like a chemical flyer that Superboy blew
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the dust or something and then made him lose his
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hair or some shit like that. But uh, I think
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there's something very evident in Hackman's portrayal, and his portrayal
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he specifically has like the comedy of of frailty, Like
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his comedy is about the fragility of man and so
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much of what makes great comedy or human foibles. Yeah,
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but also tragedy, you know, is basic is like heaped
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onto these human foibles. So like I feel like Hackman's
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Luthor is pathetic. He's a failure even by man in
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society standards. He's like haunted by the memory of this
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abusive father who told him get the fuck out. Yeah,
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and he's forced to hide from the world and the sewers,
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you know, and he's now plagued by a god from
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another world who is like the apex of humanity.
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You know, he's I'm realizing there's just sixty percent Huawa
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aspect of that character.
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M hm. But his comedy all stems from this inferiority complex,
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and I think it's I think it's something that has
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carried through to all the other versions of Lex Luthor.
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The angle of the humor changes a bit, but it's
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still that same inferiority complex in John Chay's performance in
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Lols and Clark And you know, Rosenbaum in Smallville had
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more of a rise sense of humor, and he was
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sarcastic and biting, and he was a dealing he was
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dealing specifically with his abusive father at that time, but
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also like.
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He was but he was witty. He wasn't he was witty,
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but he's shooting from the hip, you know.
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But it was the same because he was he was broken,
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and he had an inferiority complex and he fucking knew
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something was wrong this man. He was a mushroom dude.
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He was kept in the dark and fed shit all day.
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His best friend lied to him, like and the fact
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that like for the first four or five years of
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that performance, we were like as an audience chuckling at Luthor,
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like at Lex getting just this close to figuring out
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that it was Clark, and then like something would happen.
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He's like, all right, Clark, and as the show goes on,
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like it's just more and more he's just you can
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tell he's hurt. He knows something is awry. He is
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not being told the truth.
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Yeah, and trust and was given familiar humiliation like it's
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a it's a painful thing.
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And the fact that that even his dad, his dad
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found out and didn't tell him like that is man
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Like Rosenbaum's version like really dips more into the tragedy
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of it, but it's still like funny at first, and
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then we're like.
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Oh man, that did not wake it work out.
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But you know, Jesse Eisenberg's Luther was hilarious and tragic,
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but again hit those same notes abusive father.
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I think he has that aspect though, like a lot
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of writers are just gonna lean straight into to make
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him want to be that big, you have to have
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made him always flexing against feeling small. So there has
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to be a shitty Lex Dad somewhere, you know.
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Yeah, and even Clancy Brown did that shit in the
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animated series. His comedic beats were very rooted in this
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self important big shot or he felt like he had
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to be. But he's still in no match for Superman.
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Well and super Girl. It was a shitty lex mom,
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but still, but yeah, one of the luthers has to
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be a prick somewhere to make Alex or Lena.
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And you know, there's there are elements of that, you know.
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Of course Superman has to continually best Lex and yeah
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it's kind of funny like oh, I'll get you next time, Superman,
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some kind of shit like that in the comics. But yeah,
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I think there is something of the Hackman beat that
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came through. And it may just may have just been
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the script. I don't know, it may have just been,
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you know, like I said, a staple of the character.
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And they can hit the same notes but with you know,
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an electric guitar instead of an acoustic I don't know,
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but uh, that's kind of a cool question. Tim, thank
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you for asking again. But yeah, Hackman will definitely be missed. Sucks.
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Uh and Michelle tracton Burke thirty nine. Uh so liver
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transplant might not have taken her. Cause of death was
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ruled undetermined. We you know, her family said no to
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the autopsy. As for DC, she you know, she played
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bar girl in supermanch Zan, Return of Black Adam, and
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the DC Showcase original short Jonah Hex And she wasn't
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in a lot of DC, but she was in d
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C and I felt like that was enough of a
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reason to mention her, because she was fantastic in uh,
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The Adventures of Pete and Pete and Buffy the Vampire
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Slayer and Euro Trip and she did voices for Robot
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Chicken and I mean she she she was working. She
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was in Gossip Girl for a ton of episodes, like
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was even in the spinoff, Like yeah, she she was
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great and uh, it sucks that she's gone to Yeah anyway,
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I guess so, uh, gun, m hmm, give me a seconds.
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Gun posted this anniversary thing on threads was saying one
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year ago today, long year. But sorry, I don't know
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if I can say this long year. Buy in it's
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Falbard faster than a speeding bullet. Toward July eleventh, twenty
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twenty five, hashtag Superman. It is just a picture of
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Superman's feet. He is standing in snow, get a little
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snow on his on his toes. There got the cape
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whipping down over the over the boot a little bit, uh,
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kind of a neat picture. It is crazy to think
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that it's been.
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That thing is Falbard.
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I'm surprised. I'm still surprised you're trying to say that,
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but I'm very proud of you for trying.
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It is s V A L B A r D.
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It's Falbard.
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and yet it's going to be pronounced Wendy's and I
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don't know how to do. I think that that.
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Okay, well, I don't know. Most of this news is
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coming from this little press release convention whatever they had.
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about the slate and they went over like where are
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we now? Now? You know they've done it every year,
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so most of that comes from that, or most of
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what we're talking about today comes from that, And there
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is there seemed to be between all the different outlets.
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Some contradictions felt a lot like trying to wrap your
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head around the gospel. But I tried my best and
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I kind of grabbed, you know, from like three different
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sources and condensed it down the best I could. And
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I know there were more people there, but you know,
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some people were just out there, Like some of those
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people that went were just like James Gunn says, this
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is on the back burner. I'm like, no, the fuck
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he did not like all these three people said, he
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didn't say that at all.
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Like so anyway, for lack of a better term, wild
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The usual suspects too. It's like the people you know,
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is gonna be who are like this is horseshit is dying,
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It's gonna be a flop. Yeah, the test screening said
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they were terrible.
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This has been a weird little social gathering. You just
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are immediate gathering you described though, mm hmm, I'm gonna
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start describing it as like the twenty twenty five ERGOT conference.
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Mm hmmm, and look for for anyone, uh curious, I
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used I went by the variety article Comic book dot
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Com and then separately because he's on his own now,
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Brandon Davis, who used to be with Comic book dot Com.
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But dude fucking loves this shit. He was always fair
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to Snyder. He's always he's been fair to a gun
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the whole time. I you know, I trust that dude
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for the most part, even when I disagree with him.
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I'm like, you have no ill will. There's no ill
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intend or malice, you.
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Know, mm hmm.
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So, uh, those are the three I went with. And
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you know, if you don't like that, you can fuck off.
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I don't know. I mean, if you're like, ah, those
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are the ones I want to talk about discussing film christ.
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I mean, to be fair, you've compared resources and pointed
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out that shit got weird.
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So well, shit got a little weird. But they were
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all saying basically the same thing, those three Yeah, wherever,
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they all had the same basic interpretation, even if the
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even if the verbiage was off a little bit.
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But uh, then there were some who were just like
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out and out saying like no, this is not this
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is there's just saying shit like James Gunn would not
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even say like this is not something that they would
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even there. He's not gonna come out and be like, yeah,
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well the test screenings were absolute shit. Everyone hated it.
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And uh also.
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Yeah, also dogs and tacos.
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I'm afraid of the authority and that are I'm afraid
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of the boys because it's too much like the authority
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and I mean, yeah, I don't know, lovely he did
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kind of say that, but not like that.
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Even by then it'll be over. We'll be looking for
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something like that, I know.
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Yeah. Anyway, so we'll talk about that.
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Is it seems like you did your best to compare
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some weird notes, so.
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Like, yeah, I'll tried, Yeah, I tried.
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It's a considered series of things we're about to try here.
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But also, here's the point, here's the good point, all right,
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that I'm proud of myself for making Looking at all
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the other sources who did not take the time to
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compare notes, I am going to say, you know, this
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is going to be more comprehensive than a lot of
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people who get a lot more views than we do.
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So yeah, the quote unquote professionals. Yeah, take that.
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Yeah, I don't know. I was waiting to see if
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you're gonna go with blow me or something like that.
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Sucking on this one though, clean my shitty asshole if
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your tong posers.
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They brought my the flugging receipts?
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Did you find that kernel of corn?
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Yeah?
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I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not sorry.
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Sucks that we made it this far and you just
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got us canceled right before we got to see all
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that good work of yours.
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Well look, let's be let's be clear. I've said this before.
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You cannot be canceled if you've never been.
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Greenlit, right, yes, and that is important.
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No one has ever said, go yeah, dude, here's a
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bank roll, no one. Yeah, we just do this ourselves.
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We live and die by our own decision. Yeah, all right,
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So yeah, what do you sad?
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With despair? When you said it that way? For some reason?
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I know, but yeah, okay, sorry, I was hit by
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despair just a brief wave.
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All right. Superman is in deep post production. We know this.
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They're still making little tweaks to it. Uh. James Gunns
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celebrated lex Luthor's eighty fifth anniversary with a new movie.
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Image is a black and white behind the scenes picture
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of Nicholas Holt as Lex and he looks dope. I
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don't know what to say about it other than he
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looks dope though as hell really cool black and white
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image by VFX supervisor Stephanie or stefan Ni Siretti. I
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don't know. I'll put that in the show notes. Will
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there be Superman reboots? We've done real screenings. Definitely learn
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learning stuff all the time, Definitely editing and making little changes.
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You know, we might shoot a couple of things, little
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tiny things. All my additional photography is so hard, but
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it's like I used to be kind of against it
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because you know, you don't have to shoot again. Yeah,
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you don't want to have to shoot again. It's a
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pan in the ass. I really like being able to say,
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you know what, I wish I had a shot a
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shot of that fist hitting that and so I tend
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to go back and pick that kind of stuff up,
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but I wouldn't. It wouldn't be anything major, but those
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kinds of things. Yeah, I'll cover you a couple more
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things like that. Now. Naysayers are turning these comments into
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statements saying that he's walking back previous promises of not
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doing additional photography presortaively referring to them as reshoots. But
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these kind of comments, they actually echo what Gunn said
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in December of last year. He says, we won't have
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not a few days of additional shooting. We're doing a
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day and a half of pickup shots. This was on threads,
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no scenes, no reshoots, just a handful of individual shots
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to enhance the film. It's in line with what he
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just said.
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Yeah, it's just a shorter version. Literally.
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At at this event, they he and Saffron said that
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Crypto is going to beginning a series of seasonal shorts
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that will begin releasing after Superman debuts in July. He says,
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We've got these cool little Crypto shorts that are so fun. Man,
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I've been watching all of them. He's a terrible, terrible Dog.
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It's for families and it's just really fun and goofy.
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It's pretty cool. And then Saffron said, it's definitely the
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Crypto you fall in love with in Superman. He's a
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terrible dog.
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I like it.
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There will be four of these. They'll start in the Fall.
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It's also unclear if Corn Sweat Superman or Clark Can't
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will appear in the shorts or up their live action,
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but it is the same crypto from the Superman movie.
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It is canon. So they also said the Superman then
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the first Superman trailer is being cut because they're referring
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to what they've already put out as the teaser. So
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we will be getting that sometime pretty soon.
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We're we're like, yeah, I mean we're four months out.
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We must be nearing that time.
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Yeah, God, four months. That doesn't seem like any time now.
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Holy crap, that's so exciting.
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Yep.
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Lorenzo that is over on Patreon has a Superman question
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or questions. He says he has a comment in the question.
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Sorry the comment A funny thought occurred to me. I,
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of course don't actually think this will happen, nor should
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it happen. Always a great way to start off. But
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with Alan Tuda being cast and a mystery roll and
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gun Superman, and with Tudic already having voiced the Man
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of Steel in Justice League War, the wild thought did
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cross my mind of there being a Jeff East Superman
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the movie situation with Tudic dubbing over David Cornswe's lines
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like Chris Reeve did with Jeff East. I don't know
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what to do with that. I'm glad that's not gonna happen, George. Sorry, Lorenzo,
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that would be a bit too much. But still maybe
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just one zcene. Yeah, but he has to sound like
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Clay Face on Harley Quinn. This is like pumping away,
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you know, I mean yeah, And the question.
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It does leave me the like, where are you with that?
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Where are you with that? Right now? Four months out?
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Do you want to do any multiverse Superman mentions right
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now or not? If you were getting if you were
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getting a pick.
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Yes, you do, you do want them? Yeah, yeah, but
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if if I hmm, it would be really cool.
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I'm imagining a flashish kind of scene, you know.
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Yeah, no, you know, I would think it would be
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really cool if you know, like I've said in the
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previous episode, I think would be cool if the masked
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character Ultraman whatever he's he, you know or whatever. Certain
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people are just very fed up with that me saying Ultraman.
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If that character turns out to be a multiverse, some
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other alternate universe version of Superman, I will be really
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probably very happy. I would love it if one of
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the things that Lex has created is like some sort
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of you know, window or portal. I'll brave New Metropolis
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in Superman animan series. I think it'd be really cool,
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you know. I mean, aside from the political issues, I
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think it would be cool to see Dean King show
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back up. Like I like his version of Superman. I
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like all of them. I want to see Brandon Ralph.
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I'd love to see Henry Cavill. I'm just I'm a
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Superman fan dude, Like I just I like every I
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like every version, so see.
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I understand that part. But sometime I'm a bit I
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think right now I want it to start fresh. I
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could be asked to get in a few months.
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Yeah, I mean, it'd be great if it started fresh too, Like,
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but same time, I just love this shit and I
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want to see all of it.
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Yeah, but I mean, look, if we went full throttle
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and the Dark Guy the entire time was Cavil and
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mm hmm, it was a handoff of the whole universe.
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Of course, had wet myself in the theater, like of
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course I would mm hmm.
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Yeah. Uh. Lorenzo's question with Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner and
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Isabella Mercid Hawk's Mercy's Hawk Girl on the same team
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and gun Superman. What do you think the chances are
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that we will at some point, maybe on Lanterns, maybe
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somewhere elsewhere see Guy play Matchmaker and introduce Hawkgirl and
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dev EM's Aaron Pierre's John Stewart to one another, leading
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to a dcaus Cowkgirl slash John Stewart romance. I mean,
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I could see it happening.
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Or no when, And I did like them on that
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that was that was one of my favorite relationships out
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of that.
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Yeah, definitely, And I you know, I'm a big fan
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of it. I love that in the future in that universe,
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Warhawk is their kid. Oh that is nice.
482
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.000
I hadn't it hadn't even occurred to me that those
483
00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:18.960
two could be around in romantically linked. But now that
484
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:19.880
you mention it, I dig it.
485
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:25.240
Yeah, Yeah, they're there, They're in universe. And I always
486
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.920
did like that version from Justice League Unlimited where you know,
487
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.640
Carter Hall shows up and he's just a cock, Like
488
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.880
he's just like a thumb on, you know, holding his
489
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:42.400
thumb on her. Abusive cock who's like, no, you you know,
490
00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:44.839
you're supposed to be for me, and she's like, fuck you, bro,
491
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.400
I want to be with John you know, like shit, man,
492
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.279
I dig that, so uh yeah, I like that. Yeah,
493
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.160
I like that concept, and I I don't necessarily nothing
494
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.279
can have to be Guy Gardner though being Matchmaker could
495
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.079
just be like, you know, by the end of Superman.
496
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.960
I assume if not, then at some point mister Terrific
497
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.359
and Guy and Hot Girl are all gonna be like,
498
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:13.039
fuck Maxwell Lord and they're gonna like, you know, get
499
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.000
away from his bullshit organization. Maybe not, though maybe you
500
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.400
know Gun, you know, Maxwell Lord was in the Justice
501
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.839
League International stuff. Looks like Gun is a fan of International,
502
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.119
so he might want to play with that a little
503
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.880
bit more. And I'd be fine with that because I
504
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.319
love International as well.
505
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.319
I think comes down to just he digs a lot
506
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:33.920
of stuff from his childhood. Who blimes him?
507
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.200
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And but also he said, you know,
508
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.720
one of the best things about doing this is picking
509
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.839
and choosing from you know, different versions and stuff. So
510
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.960
you know, who knows that what he'll actually do, But
511
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:49.640
I'm down for the ride. Whatever. Jaden Reverie is confirmed
512
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:55.400
to appear in good God, Sandman. I know the Sandman
513
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.759
season two, and that is the guy who was in
514
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.640
dead Boy Detectives. He played Charles Rowland. So we have
515
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.640
at least one dead Boy Oh cool, sand Man season two.
516
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:09.880
Where are you sitting on that? Have you decided you're
517
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:10.799
going to watch that yet?
518
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.640
I don't know. It will depend on the time and
519
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.359
the trailer. I'll probably I'll probably watch it early on
520
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:21.240
just because I'm gonna want to like see what's going
521
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.359
on with it and put it away.
522
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.599
Okay, well, you know least. Yeah, I go back and
523
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.599
forth daily. I'm struggling because I in a lot of
524
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:32.640
ways I don't want to support gaming anymore.
525
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.960
Yeah, but when it comes to there were bigger productions,
526
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.119
I'm very much this is a whole team thing.
527
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.559
So and it's not their fault. It's not their fault.
528
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.119
Yeah. So there's that conundrum, and then there's just going
529
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.960
to be how much am I actually interested in it?
530
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.240
When I really do see a trailer that you know well,
531
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.119
and I'm paying attention and want to know they're factors
532
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.440
their factors right now. I mean, I'll probably just digest
533
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.160
it and see what he is move on.
534
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.119
Yeah, Yeah, I was just having this conversation with my
535
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.759
sister and who was a huge Neil Game and fan
536
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.880
more than I am orherever it could be, and she
537
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:12.400
was talking about the final episode. It was gonna be
538
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.880
a season, but now the final episode of Good Omens,
539
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.720
and she was like, look, here's the thing. I was
540
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.680
a huge Neal Game and fan. He let me down.
541
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.799
He broke my heart. But I still love Tenant, I
542
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.519
still love Sheen, and more most importantly, I still love
543
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.079
Terry Pratchett, and he wrote the bulk of Good Omens
544
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.400
to begin with. So I kind of need to watch
545
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.200
this finish out and hope that it does well. And
546
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:43.319
I kind of get what. I get that.
547
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:44.559
I feel that too.
548
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.039
I think it's time for a break. What do you think?
549
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.000
Yeah, I can dig it.
550
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:55.440
Okay, we'll be right back. All right, we're back. Moving
551
00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:00.839
on to Peacemaker. Peacemaker is deep in post product, probably
552
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.079
looking at an August premiere. Gun says, Peacemaker is all done.
553
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.640
I am deep in editing with that at the same
554
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.319
time I'm doing Superman. It's been really fun. I think
555
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.559
John Cena surprised a lot of people in the first
556
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.680
season with what he was able to do performance wise,
557
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.440
and the guy grew exponentially in season two and he's
558
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.480
really incredible, as is the whole cast. He says the
559
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.400
second season of Peacemaker marks a significant shift in focus,
560
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.160
moving away from the broader superhero elements to explore more
561
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.359
intimate character dynamics. The second season is much more about
562
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.920
the characters and the interconnectivity between the characters and their
563
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.279
personal lives. It's much more about Chris Smith than it
564
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.799
is about Peacemaker. And he also described Ritt Flagg Senior
565
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.759
as an antagonist, which makes sense because he's gonna want
566
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:44.799
revenge for the death his boy.
567
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:52.039
Dammit, I mean one does it's funny. I like that
568
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.960
if I don't know. I like that of those two fighting.
569
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.480
But it's going to complicate things in a weird way.
570
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.680
I'm still just so confused about the cannon part. But
571
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.160
where that's going to be in The cannon's gonna bother me,
572
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.640
I think long term, but only only in what it's
573
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.279
in ways that I'll be able to live with. It's
574
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.119
it'll be okay, yeah, but it is fun to take
575
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.720
it out of the superhero like. I feel like what
576
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.079
I was also told right then was don't worry about
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00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.480
Superman showing up. Just watch this mm hmm, or which
578
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.519
Superman's gonna show up?
579
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:25.599
Just watch the show, right, Yeah, over to Supergirl. They
580
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.480
say that Supergirl is halfway through production, which is exciting.
581
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.720
I had no idea it was halfway through. Jesus Christ,
582
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.160
that is. I'm so excited about Supergirl. I'm not even
583
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.160
a big fan of who is playing her, but I
584
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.240
fucking love that graphic novel. I love the Tom King
585
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:46.960
is involved. I'm just excited. They're talking about Jason Momoa
586
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:48.960
as Lobo, and if we know that he's going to
587
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.920
be in Supergirl, we also know that he's you know,
588
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.279
more than a cameo. So uh. They said Jason was
589
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.359
literally the first person. This is what Gunn says. Jason
590
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.920
was literally the first text I got after this was announced,
591
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.039
and his text his text was let me see if
592
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:10.640
I can remember. It was very eloquent. I think it
593
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:17.480
was all caps Lobo baby with ten billion exclamation points,
594
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.720
and so essentially I was like, eh, I think that's
595
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.160
a pretty good idea. So it was always part of
596
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:25.599
the plan. I had no problems whatsoever with him having
597
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.440
played Aquaman before. H h. They did say when people
598
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.039
are like, oh, what was he gonna look like? They said,
599
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.960
he looks like Lobo. He looks like Lobo anyway.
600
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.319
Yeah, this is not gonna be a heavy makeup session,
601
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:37.200
but he.
602
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.240
Looks more like Lobo. His skin is a different color.
603
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.480
Yeah, I think, honestly, I think he could probably like
604
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:43.559
apply that makeup in a few minutes to be out
605
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.400
his way it. Yeah, the rest of it's just just
606
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.559
not gonna be that intensive.
607
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.440
Mm hmmm. So they asked how long it'll be before
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00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.000
we get to get a look at Lobo, and Gun said,
609
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.240
it's gonna be a while, to be frank, because you
610
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.200
know it's all in outer space. The Superman. We were
611
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.160
sort of forced because we knew we were gonna shoot
612
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.720
outside for weeks, so we throw something out there. But
613
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.599
like with Jason, I'm not sure. I don't want to
614
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.079
be cocky because you never know.
615
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:14.880
Yeah, what I'm hearing, we're gonna mostly shoot indoors, So
616
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:18.319
I'll tell you what I'm ready.
617
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.119
Yeah, we're gonna mostly shoot indoors. So let me see
618
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.720
what I have written done here? Oh fuck your.
619
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.160
Count it's good. Fuck yeah.
620
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.240
Over the lanterns h lanyards is in production. We've known
621
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:35.960
that for a little while, and let's see. They've posted
622
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:41.240
a picture of Aaron Pierre as John Stewart and Kyle
623
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.039
Chandler as Hal Jordan walking down a long and winding
624
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.480
road in the middle of nowhere. The only thing that
625
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.480
looks vaguely lantern ask about it is if you zoom
626
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.400
in to Kyle Chandler's hand, you can see the green
627
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:54.359
lantern ring on him.
628
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.279
Oh I didn't catch it.
629
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.640
Oh yeah, dude, Oh yeah, uh it does. It's funny.
630
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.839
It does look very True Detectives, True Detective.
631
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:05.920
I like that first shot of Deadpool Wolverine that we
632
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.000
saw that we all saw.
633
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.079
It does it does? But you know it's I've seen people.
634
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.480
It's like every time this posted somewhere else on another outlet,
635
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.279
there's always like this one guy who looks like a dude,
636
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.920
bro douchebag who says, oh, I get it. They're ripping
637
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:26.960
off True Detective, and I'm like, motherfucker. In twenty twenty three,
638
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.720
James Gunn said, we're doing lanterns, which is very inspired
639
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.119
by True Detective. They have said this shit over and
640
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:37.000
over and over and over. We know, we know that
641
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:41.200
you're not getting anybody whoa well, I get it.
642
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:43.240
Somebody with the cumments.
643
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.200
I'm so glad that you get it. He's only said
644
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.200
it fucking a million times.
645
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:47.759
Yeah.
646
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:55.599
Uh, I hate people so much. Man. Uh Yeah. So
647
00:32:56.119 --> 00:33:00.480
it says child can child Candler, Kyle Channer is how
648
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:06.519
Jordan Oh Jesus, Aaron Pierre is John Stewart, and it
649
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.440
says hashtag Lannerns. New HBO original series from DC Studios
650
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.640
is now in production. It's been in production. They just
651
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:18.519
decided to finally tell us. And I don't know if
652
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.559
you follow along with different the different leads and stuff.
653
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.359
He already knew, but Gunn says excited that Lanyards is
654
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.680
now in production. DC Studio's new show for HBO and
655
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.799
Max from creators Chris Mundy, Damon, Linda lo F, Tom King,
656
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.440
starring Kyle Chandler and Aaron Pierre, is something really special.
657
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.559
I'm excited about it. They just have been talking about
658
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.240
how it was very gritty, and they said it's so
659
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.880
cool because it's connected to Superman because we've got Guy
660
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.519
Gardner in that, and then we've got these Lanyards over here,
661
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.839
and it's just such a different tone from what Superman is.
662
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.759
It's exactly what I want to bring to the DCU,
663
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.599
and it's being able to have these very different films
664
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.200
and television series that are still a part of an
665
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.720
overall connected world but have completely different feels to them.
666
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.720
Now I'm gonna say this part. I will tell you.
667
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:11.480
I'll tell you this is not a Lanterns spoiler, but
668
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.480
it's gonna feel like one.
669
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.119
It's a weird disclaimer.
670
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.559
But okay, this guy I don't beat games on Threads
671
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:26.480
made a prediction that hit me as so true. I cursed.
672
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.280
I read this thing and I went fuck. I think
673
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.199
he's absolutely right. Okay, actually it wasn't even him. It
674
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:35.440
was his close friend. Okay, it was his close friend.
675
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.440
That's what he says in the tweet. He says, one
676
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.039
of my close friends saw the recent first look at
677
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.199
Lantern's picture and said, quote, I can't wait to find
678
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.440
out in the final episode that hal has been Parallax
679
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.119
the whole time. John is going to have to fight
680
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.000
him at the end of the season when it's revealed
681
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.519
Parallax has been influencing him the whole season and made
682
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.320
him commit the murders while blanking his memories of committing
683
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.400
the deed. Then he dies and now end quote. And
684
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.920
then he says, I don't be game says, and now
685
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.960
I'm not excited for lanterns because he's probably right.
686
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.519
See that secks though, Are you not excited because you
687
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.159
never wanted that story, or because that would have been
688
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.559
cool but you ruined it for yourself because you open
689
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:19.800
your Christmas present too early?
690
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.280
It did occur to me that something like that might happen.
691
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.440
It's possible, but we're positing the inclusion of Parallaxy, right,
692
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.039
or has it been stated for sure that we're definitely
693
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.519
gonna have a third giant green lantern entity that we
694
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:35.039
don't know about.
695
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.679
No, I haven't heard that Parallax is happening.
696
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.400
So for sure we're borrowing trouble there a.
697
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.280
Little Yeah, Yeah, I hope not.
698
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.079
It's a fine theory, don't get me wrong.
699
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.480
I hope they make us think that's gonna happen for
700
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.440
like an episode and then it doesn't. Yeah, that's what
701
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.639
I hope. I hope it's a fake out. I hope
702
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.679
there's a red herring in there.
703
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.639
Yeah, we're just about sure that's gonna happen. And then
704
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.800
they pass a lab somewhere and there's a little glowing
705
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:58.840
jar in the background with Parallax written about.
706
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:03.239
It, right, something's yeah, yeah that was last year. What
707
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.519
would be neat, honestly, is if we come into it
708
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:12.480
and Hal is trying to regain trust because he did
709
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:13.639
become Parallax at some.
710
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:18.039
Point, well, or just a post Coast City world in general.
711
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:19.719
Yeah, that'd be kind of neat.
712
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.599
Well, but I don't know any kind addressing Coast City
713
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.880
would be cool and well in general.
714
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.920
I mean, I'm just happy to see how Jordan's standing
715
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.719
next to John Stewart walking down the street.
716
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.440
Dude is going to be okay to just be happy about.
717
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.360
Yeah, I'm not if that's spoiler, I'm just gonna be
718
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.880
kind of sucky. But you know what, like he they're
719
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.159
saying that, like uh, they're looking at it like going like, oh, yeah,
720
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:43.920
this is gonna last. This is probably gonna last more
721
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.360
than eight episodes, Like we have eight episodes ordered, It'll
722
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.159
probably go on for more seasons. So I mean, I'm
723
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.559
saffer instead, it will likely continue. So why why get
724
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:56.440
rid of Kyle Chandler? Like, please keep them around. Let's
725
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.960
have how Jordan around for a little while. Jesus Christ
726
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.679
as well, that's my hope. You can do so much
727
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.599
ship with lanyards. Man, you can have Guy Gardner hanging
728
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.360
around Earth. You know, Kyle Chandler runs off or Hal Jordan,
729
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.400
whatever you want to call him, flies off, does some
730
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.599
ship back in out of space.
731
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:12.760
You know.
732
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.599
John Stewart's over here, you know, uh, pounding the cake
733
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.599
with hot girl. You know you can. You can do
734
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:21.800
all sorts of ship. Oh hey, look there's Kyle Rayner.
735
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.360
Why does Earth need so many damn lanyards? Well, a
736
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:25.519
lot of shit goes on in Earth.
737
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:34.079
It's crazy over there, man, Like, how would you like
738
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:34.760
to do it alone?
739
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.320
No? I want to I want a season, you know,
740
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:41.239
set on Mogo ship. You know what I want?
741
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.320
Jason which the squirrel?
742
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.840
No you want? I want that fucking f shark belt Okay,
743
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:50.920
Rott lot fan.
744
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.960
I want the note character. See that feels like something
745
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.440
I would be like romantically, Like, I want the character
746
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.079
that's just music. But like no, No, of course, of
747
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.239
course you've doomed yourself to wanting a show that would
748
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:05.719
be pretty much impossible to make.
749
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.159
Yeah, I'm like I want that uh, that big lumpy
750
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:10.039
blind guy.
751
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.079
Yeah, where the communications a bunch of notes that we'll
752
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.639
have to show to people who are like seventy percent
753
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:17.159
tone death.
754
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:23.360
Uh huh, how you doing? That's my toxic fan entitlement.
755
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:29.280
That's my plan. It'll be followed by a show that's
756
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.559
just it's it's mogo, but it's just that would be fun.
757
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.840
It's basically a David Attenborough's Planet Earth with no voiceover.
758
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.199
No one's explaining it to you. It's just that you're
759
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.000
watching the planet. Very exciting if you know the premise.
760
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:42.800
Mm hmm.
761
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:49.559
Otherwise I'm completely useless. Nothing's ever happened.
762
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.519
Let's go to Clay face. Uh. Saffron confirmed that British
763
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.360
director James Watkins Speak No Evil is in Toxic direct
764
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.440
h So you know a lot of people are still
765
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.039
coming out saying like, oh, it's confirmed. It just confirmed,
766
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.519
like he's doing it. No, No, he's in talks. He
767
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.119
was confirmed he was in talks. Jesus Christ words, they're texting.
768
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:12.639
It's okay.
769
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:18.480
They refer to it as a body horror film. Gun
770
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.760
said it was. They they hope it works as a
771
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.079
pure horror film or a horror movie for somebody who
772
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.840
doesn't care about DC at all. Gun also said it
773
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.719
is pure fucking horror quote unquote, Okay. He says the
774
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.599
take on clay Face is quote so real and true
775
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.719
and psychological and body horror and gross. They plan they
776
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.440
plan to start shooting this summer and have also started
777
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:47.360
the casting process.
778
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.480
They're just gonna be a horror about somebody who can
779
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:50.159
change forms.
780
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.679
Mm hmm, you know, I don't know. I don't know
781
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.079
what all's gonna include.
782
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.519
With what it's gonna feel like, some T two thousand
783
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:58.679
body horror kind of stuff.
784
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:03.880
That's why maybe now maybe so. Gun has said that
785
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.599
actors who voice a role in the animated projects will
786
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.679
also play them in live action, but he's talking about
787
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.280
main actors. We've already talked about this. How he said
788
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.519
that Alan Tudic is not going to be voicing or
789
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.280
not going to be playing clay Face in the movie.
790
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.840
He played clay Face in Creature Commandos. It wasn't a
791
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.320
primary role for Tudic in the in Creature Commandos.
792
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.960
Yeah, he just means the people in the title card
793
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.639
are the credits right right, I'm guessing.
794
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.039
And there has been speculation by the way that Harry
795
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.840
Potter starre Daniel Radcliffe is going to be playing clay Face,
796
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.920
and gun On Threads said, as we confirmed the other day,
797
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.800
we're closing a deal with James to direct because we
798
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.559
don't have a director yet. We haven't even started the
799
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.000
casting process. Daniel was great, but we certainly haven't talked
800
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.320
to or considered him. So this one was one hundred
801
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:50.920
percent falls. So this is one of those situations where
802
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.239
I found two different sources who said we've started the
803
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.360
casting process, and then he says, we have not started
804
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.719
the casting process. I'm assuming directly from gun is the
805
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.320
act're one on Threads?
806
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.280
Would you would have to think so since he could
807
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:08.079
just you know, edit that if it's wrong right, factually wrong,
808
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.480
and presumably he would see when the several hundred people
809
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:12.559
on Threads tell him about it.
810
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:18.559
Mm hmm. So Gunn also said one of the first things, sorry,
811
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.119
one of the things Peter and I talked about when
812
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.480
we first got the script is if we were producing
813
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:26.320
movies five years ago, when we were doing Belko Experiment
814
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.280
and all of that stuff, and somebody had brought us
815
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.679
this horror script called clay Face about this guy, we
816
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.280
would have died to have gotten to produce this movie
817
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.639
because it was just a really excellent body horror script,
818
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:37.960
and the fact that it is in the DCU is
819
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.639
just a plus so cool, they're excited about it.
820
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:43.840
Does it kind of have a you know, joker field
821
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:44.039
to it?
822
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:44.599
To you?
823
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.440
Like the well, I mean think of the script just
824
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.199
would have worked without the character.
825
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.559
Ip Maybe maybe, I mean, if that's what you mean
826
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.480
by that, yeah, then yes, possibly.
827
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:58.280
That's all I did know. But yes, they seem to like,
828
00:41:58.320 --> 00:41:59.840
you just said, want to make the movie for its
829
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.119
for the sake of it, and it just happens to
830
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.360
be in camp and.
831
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.880
They said it wasn't part of the plan. They didn't,
832
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.199
you know, and we know that wasn't because they never
833
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.840
even talked about it. But then when Mike came in
834
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:12.360
with that script, they were like, oh shit, well we
835
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:12.880
got to make this.
836
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.719
Yeah.
837
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.280
Yeah. We got a question from Matt Carroll over on
838
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.800
the MCU cast Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast. Matt says, do
839
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.880
you guys prefer Clay Face to be connected to the
840
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.280
DCU or an Elseworld's Tale? Also, I feel like they
841
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.360
should cast Alan Tudic no matter the vibe, really show
842
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.760
his range at playing the same character. I would rather
843
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.559
be part of the DCU than an Elseworld's Tale because
844
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.599
then at a certain point you're just like you're just
845
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.280
making shit. Else worlds to make it in else world's,
846
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.199
like if you're really going for what Gun has said
847
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.000
he's been wanting to do, which is have lots of
848
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.480
different tones and really showcase the characters and be like,
849
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.239
but it can all be a part of the same universe,
850
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.199
which is what I want and have wanted forever. Like
851
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.880
that was like, as much as I enjoy zach stuff
852
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.559
at times, like, I also like disagreed with Zack vehemently
853
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.840
over the notion that you know, he couldn't do Grant
854
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.320
Gustin because the show didn't fit the tone. I'm like
855
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:14.639
the fucking tone. And I've said this before. You know,
856
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.840
when I am at my house, it is a different
857
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.280
tone than when I'm at with your house, Jason. You know, like, well,
858
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.199
the lighting is different, the attitudes are a little different.
859
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.599
When I'm at my parents' house, it's definitely a different tone.
860
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:30.239
You know, it's you know, dark, and people are fighting
861
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.639
and like, so like, different tones can exist in reality,
862
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.960
like and I feel like different tones should exist within
863
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.480
a cinematic universe, and.
864
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.400
This nice you would have been right to do that.
865
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.079
I also have a there's to me, there's a stake's
866
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.559
situation going on like, what's the scope we're talking about
867
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.880
because Clayface, you don't have to make that in elsewhere.
868
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.519
You can do whatever you want with a character that
869
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.480
only plays with that corner and be fine. Right, Yeah,
870
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.239
and I guess it lands in the same spot you'd
871
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:02.920
be making any else World just for the sake of it.
872
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.400
Yeah. Now, I also, you know, I don't think it
873
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:07.840
needs to be in else world. It doesn't have to
874
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.400
be in Elseworld's. I like the notion that they are
875
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.719
excited about certain kinds of films and they are just
876
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.039
gonna make you know what they want to. And look,
877
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:21.760
we're talking about a first chapter that's called Gods and
878
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:26.480
Monsters Like clay Face fucking fits that mold no pun intended.
879
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.360
So onto the other thing that Matt said, he feels
880
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.519
like they should cast alent Tudic no matter the vibe,
881
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.599
and I disagree wholeheartedly. I love Alentudic, But if they're
882
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.480
doing if this is in DCU, which we know it is,
883
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.760
alent tudiic played him with like a couple of grunts
884
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:48.280
and a chuckle or something in Creature Commandos, and we
885
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.039
have already seen his character Dost Phosphorus before, you know,
886
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:56.480
pre phosphoric pre phosphorin. I don't know how to say that,
887
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.360
but and he was drawn just like Calentutica looks he
888
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.079
is alentutic. So if we're going to clay Face, I
889
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:06.880
don't want to see like an origin story of clay
890
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.119
Face where he fucking looks like Alentutic as well.
891
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.400
Yeah, you're saying it as an opportunity cost here that
892
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.480
we were just well and you don't want to double up.
893
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.840
Yeah, you don't want to double up, And that's my issue, Like,
894
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.119
I don't you know, otherwise I would be completely fine
895
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.840
with alententutic. I love Alentudi. It's a fantastic act.
896
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.159
It would not be a matter of range or you
897
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.239
know ability there. He could I'm certain hit whatever the
898
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.880
hell genre you throw at him.
899
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.280
Oh he has, he can. I mean will again and
900
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.400
will again. I mean Resident Aliens coming this year, I
901
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.480
mean another season. It's like four or five seasons so far.
902
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.960
Like it's so good, it's great anyway, don't cheat yourself
903
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:45.840
on that show, guys, if.
904
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.280
You have Yeah, it's fantastic. I know it keeps moving
905
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:53.920
around and keeps being saved and shit, but it is fantastic.
906
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:55.079
It keeps being saved for a reason.
907
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.360
Yea. But yeah, they keep moving around because it's got
908
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.880
enough people that keep just finding it that it's actually
909
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:00.559
a commodity.
910
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.159
Yeah. And you know, either that or it's just like
911
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.039
one of those things where people everyone involved. Every time
912
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.760
it gets canceled somewhere, someone else goes like, no, that
913
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.679
one needs to keep going.
914
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.599
It's just the darling. They keep passing it around.
915
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.679
Yeah, everybody's just like no, no, it's needed.
916
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:19.199
Actually, that would be a fun thing, the idea that
917
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.320
there is collusion among the companies, but it's just to
918
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.719
save little bastards like that. Okay, look, I'll take custod
919
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.880
over for a little while and then and then Amazon,
920
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:27.599
you're gonna take it for a bit, okay, all right.
921
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.639
Well, yeah, because I think it was like originally like
922
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:33.639
an NBC thing that was like originally considered it was
923
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.920
originally considered to think an NBC, but NBC also owns
924
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.079
sci Fi, so then it kind of went going to
925
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:40.840
sci Fi and then it got canceled there, and I
926
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.199
think USA picked it up. I think it's still I
927
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.920
think it's all owned by Universal, Yeah, I believe so.
928
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.719
I mean there's a there's a few pyramids and then
929
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.320
I'll lead to like three names, right it. Occasionally I
930
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.079
go back and look at the pyramid, just remind myself
931
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:56.840
who they are, and then I try to forget it
932
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.039
because it feels like I live in the oligarchy. I
933
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.119
actually do live in, So it's just hard to focus
934
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.039
on it for too long. Right, mm hmm.
935
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.320
Maybe it wasn't to be seen. Maybe it was pea cock.
936
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.559
I don't know. I can't remember how it all went down,
937
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.960
but it has been kind of passed around. And anyway,
938
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:17.519
over the Batman Part two who Saffron offered a brief
939
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.280
update of sorts on The Batman Part two. James and
940
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.639
I we love Matt Reeves's vision for The Batman Part
941
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.079
two and we're looking forward to this film as much
942
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.480
as you are. He hasn't yet turned into full script,
943
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.400
but what we have seen, what we have read so
944
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:34.400
far is incredibly encouraging. Then, in reference to Penguin Season two,
945
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.639
we don't know. There are a lot of moving pieces,
946
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.119
probably most important Colin himself. That's what Saffron said. Then
947
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.480
Gun said, and eight hundred pounds of makeup. Yeah, so
948
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.239
there you go. I hope you enjoyed that update.
949
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.960
They're gonna want more. But that feels like it was
950
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:54.960
hardcoint at the first time.
951
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.840
Well, look they did I also say this, and we'll
952
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:00.760
lead that into the Batman and the Brave and the Bold.
953
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.000
They did say Pattinson will most likely most likely not
954
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:11.000
be the DCU Batman. Uh Gun says, I wouldn't rule
955
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:14.000
anything out. He could show up in something else as
956
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.480
far as Batman in the DCU before Batman, the Brave
957
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.199
and their Bold, but the actor doesn't exist yet.
958
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:24.320
True. Who who'd you say was the holdout last time
959
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:26.119
we talked about it? What do you mean I thought
960
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:27.960
it was? That? Was it like Gun wanted it and
961
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.280
Pattinson wanted it or something?
962
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.199
Uh, matt Reeves didn't want matt Reeves didn't want it,
963
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.599
and they were like okay. They had a conversation. They
964
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.599
were like, hey man, what's up and he was like nah,
965
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:40.599
And they're like, okay, cool, we like what you're doing.
966
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:45.480
Keep going. But yeah, Like, but they've been saying this
967
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.519
all along. We don't think it's going to happen. It's
968
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:49.760
very unlikely that's going to happen, but it might happen.
969
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.320
But you know, they said, Andy Mushieti, they're still talking
970
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.400
to him like and they did say, this is the
971
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.760
first time we've actually gotten this is that, you know,
972
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.360
they said. Saffren said, we're developing the script right now
973
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.679
and for braving the Bold, and we're going to show
974
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.280
Andy when we have it in a place where we
975
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.480
think it's ready, then see if it's a great fit
976
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.599
for him. I'm telling you right now, this motherfucker's not directed.
977
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.199
I've been saying this ever since the Flash flopped.
978
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.000
No, we're just down to the port where he gets
979
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.960
writer first refusal. I us on the script and he'll pass.
980
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.280
And yeah.
981
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.920
They just keep showing him the script and they're like
982
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.400
he's like, yeah, I like that, and they're like, fuck,
983
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:35.800
all right, let's take another path. There's no way we
984
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:36.599
can market this thing.
985
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:38.079
As soon as he doesn't like it, we gotta go.
986
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:45.320
Let's do Yeah. So, uh, this is my this is
987
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.840
my little Jimmy Rod into my belief that he's not
988
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:50.519
he's not actually gonna direct.
989
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.440
I'm also dead certain you're right, but mm hmm.
990
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.079
They did say that like Gun is working hard on it,
991
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.320
like he's deep dicking the script writing process. You know,
992
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:06.480
they'd say that exactly. Saffron said that story is coming
993
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.760
together nicely, and then Gunn added that he had been
994
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.320
especially focused on the project because quote, everybody knows I
995
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:17.079
love Batman. So yeah, I'm down, and I'm fine if
996
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.199
if he shows up somewhere else first. So he's already
997
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.760
showed up in Creature Commandos. Let's just you know what
998
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.559
I say, man, and a lot of people won't agree
999
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:26.960
with me, and a lot of people do. Just go
1000
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.079
ahead and get Alan Richon and just let it be.
1001
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.440
Just just fucking give us Reacher.
1002
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:32.800
Yeah, just give us Reacher.
1003
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:34.840
Dye his hair black. Yeah, for Christ's sake, but give
1004
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:35.320
us Reacher.
1005
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.119
I would want to see him screen tested with actual
1006
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.199
black hair and a little bit longer than his Reacher's situation.
1007
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:42.000
Mm hmm.
1008
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.039
Before I really really felt great myself.
1009
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.280
I admit, dude can act. He's like, you know, this
1010
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.599
last season, from what I've seen of this last season
1011
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.519
of Reacher season three or four, whatever it is, writing's
1012
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:54.719
kind of shit, but he's he's giving it his all. Like
1013
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.480
the dialogue sucks, but he's doing a good job with him.
1014
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:59.960
To be fair, that's been kind of reachera to some extent.
1015
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.760
But I have that I have. I'm gonna I'm like
1016
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.760
Reacher is one of those where I'm low key excited.
1017
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.840
Yeah, It's like my wife put it on and I was.
1018
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:10.880
Like, he's looking and you're hiding it. I'm not hiding.
1019
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:12.079
It just means I'm mildy excited.
1020
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.440
That's what I meant to say, right, Yeah, my wife
1021
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:15.800
put it on.
1022
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:15.920
It.
1023
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.559
I was like just kind of sitting there and like
1024
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.159
chilling and drawing and shit, and I was like kind
1025
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.000
of looked up and I was like, stalog of shit.
1026
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.360
She was like, yeah, that's real bad, Okay.
1027
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.360
I just making sure I was not whatever imagine it like.
1028
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:29.920
And then I'm kind of like looking up, going like
1029
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.480
sactress is terrible, Like what is this voice she's trying
1030
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:34.599
to do? Oh my god, this is the worst, all right.
1031
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.760
And then like as the episodes they're playing, you know,
1032
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.559
I'm noticing that, like someone evidently white went to her
1033
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.519
and said, baby, you're gont need to tone down that
1034
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.039
that accident, like because like she's actually talking like a
1035
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.920
person now. And then I'm like finding myself invested, like, well,
1036
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:54.280
well fuck, how is he gonna get there? So I mean,
1037
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:55.960
I'm I'm just gonna have to go back and watch
1038
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.760
Reacher but I'm also sitting there getting excited, thinking, like,
1039
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.519
and it's this guy wants to play Batman so bad? Yeah,
1040
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:04.000
and I loved him as Hawk on Titans.
1041
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.440
I did hate you. Yeah, yeah, I don't like, I
1042
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.519
can't help I don't like to think about that time.
1043
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.079
It was great. But god, that ending, man.
1044
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.360
You know, I never saw that last season. Are you
1045
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.039
talking about his ending on the show? Yeah? Are you
1046
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.039
talking about the show? Oh, I did see that.
1047
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.199
I forget what you know about I've seen the last
1048
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.519
season of At this point, the list is intimidating, you
1049
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:25.840
know what?
1050
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.440
You know what. The reason I stopped so stupid. The
1051
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.719
reason I stopped watching Titans was because we we turned
1052
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.559
on the first episode and they brought up Brother Blood
1053
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.360
and I was just like fuck it and like my
1054
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.480
brain just like died because all I could think of
1055
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.639
was Aero season two and I hated that Brother Blood
1056
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:44.920
storyline so much.
1057
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.719
I don't I don't blame you, and it was bad,
1058
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:52.679
and I pretty much hate every Brother Blood storyline.
1059
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.440
Yeah, but it just killed me.
1060
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.519
Man, I just I think it was. I think it's
1061
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:58.480
worth finishing the series.
1062
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.559
I understand. I don't know, I know. I still need
1063
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.320
to watch that last season of Doom Patrol.
1064
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.320
Too Titans was not very kind anything named Jason.
1065
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:11.400
But no, no, anyway, let's go on to a Creature Commandos.
1066
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.480
I feel like we've been half in Creature Commanders this
1067
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:14.920
whole time.
1068
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.960
Yeah, yeah, half half hole baby. Yeah.
1069
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:21.679
I don't even think you know what that means, But
1070
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:22.400
go ahead.
1071
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.400
I do know what that means. You put half the
1072
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:27.880
half the dick in to tease, half the dick in
1073
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.239
to tease, okay, and you put the whole dick in. Yeah, Yeah,
1074
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:36.519
it's it's a Jane silent bob get old thing. Jason
1075
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.840
mughes thrusting his dick on stage going half half makes
1076
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.960
sense now, Yeah, And for.
1077
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.880
Some reason, as punishment for asking, I get the image
1078
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:47.840
of Jason muses humping.
1079
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.079
Yeah. Now. Sadly, the person who in my household who
1080
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.159
references that the most is my wife because she thinks
1081
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.800
it's funny. Uh. It's never a sexual thing as far
1082
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.920
as like between us, it's always just some weird joke
1083
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.840
that she's found a way back to that.
1084
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.639
Yeah, and her sense of humor is twenty five percent
1085
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:06.199
chattish in a way, like.
1086
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.079
I don't even know what that means.
1087
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:10.880
I think she enjoys locker room humor at least as
1088
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:11.559
much as you do.
1089
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.559
Yes, yes, locker room humor.
1090
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:19.000
Yes, absolutely, I mean at least as much. I think
1091
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:20.320
maybe about ten percent more.
1092
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.119
Maybe that makes sense, you know, I you know, her
1093
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.440
high school friends are a couple of dudes, and they're
1094
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:29.199
oh my lord.
1095
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.760
Yeah, and yeah they were very that that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,
1096
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:40.760
we're awful. We're awful creatures. At that time, I think.
1097
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.440
She showed me like some footage of some like old
1098
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.320
home footage or something. They were just like giggling about
1099
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.000
farts and boobs or something like. It was exactly what
1100
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:49.480
you would.
1101
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.079
Expect, precisely what you thought was coming.
1102
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:57.480
Yeah, no, great Commandos. Dean Lorie, the showrunner for both,
1103
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.800
revealed to the to the direct Good God, they're already
1104
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:04.440
working on it, he says, I mean it's still early days,
1105
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.519
but we were actively working on breaking the season and
1106
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:08.840
starting to figure that out. So it's definitely moving forward.
1107
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.360
I mean, it's like they put it on a fast track.
1108
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.960
They seem to mean it. So, yeah, we're in it.
1109
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:20.000
I did when asked about the teases in the final
1110
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.480
episode and if some of those new team members might
1111
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:24.920
be playing a bigger role or a big role in
1112
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.840
season two, he says, I think it'll be at least
1113
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.800
somewhat accurate. I mean it's like, those are all characters
1114
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.719
that we think we could be we could have, sorry god,
1115
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:37.519
I mean it's like, those are all characters that we
1116
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.519
think would be really fun in the season. And James wrote,
1117
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:43.079
you know, all the episodes last season, so those were
1118
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.639
his instincts, which are pretty good. So yeah, I would
1119
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.119
say there's that, And I mean there's no world where
1120
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:49.760
I would want to do a season without a beefed
1121
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.000
up Gi Robot. That's true.
1122
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.719
That's true. I held a jam at the end. Then yeah,
1123
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.679
they don't have to figure out an actual story to
1124
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.599
tell going forward this time though, because we only covered
1125
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:04.440
like forty eight hours on the original, it was a
1126
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.559
story it was. It's not that I don't mean there's
1127
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.960
a ding. I just mean like it was mostly backstory.
1128
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.199
I feel like half of it was filling us in
1129
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.559
on what before. Like we only actually saw a present
1130
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.360
tense in like plus forty eight hours or.
1131
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.639
So, right, I didn't see any tints or president even
1132
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:21.559
see a wigwam. For God's sake, that.
1133
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.119
One single present in one single TV lying.
1134
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:35.880
Constantine Too. Director Francis Lawrence revealed that Constantine To has
1135
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.760
official permission to be developed, which, by the way, the
1136
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:44.400
uh fucking headline that I got this from said permission
1137
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.880
the sequel was green lit. That's not what that means.
1138
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.800
So it was not green lit. It has official permission
1139
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.760
to be developed, indicating the DC Studio supports the sequel
1140
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.599
announced before James Gunn and Peter Saffron took over the studio.
1141
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.920
But you know what everybody wants Constantine Too with Keano,
1142
00:56:59.199 --> 00:56:59.760
come on.
1143
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.400
Especially him. I mean, like the officially developing in the
1144
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.840
sense basically means we are actually willing to write a
1145
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.760
check for someone to think about this for a second.
1146
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:11.159
Yeah, that's what it means.
1147
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.199
It's a small check what it means, But we're willing
1148
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:14.800
to write a check for someone to think about it.
1149
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.480
Yep. Now he says, we have finally gotten to the
1150
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:19.119
place where we now have the permission to go down
1151
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.719
that road. Akiva is writing. Kean and Akiva and I
1152
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.599
have been collaborating, and I think we have some really
1153
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.880
really great ideas that we're super super excited about. And
1154
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.599
here's another here's another thing. When you're going back and
1155
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:33.880
you're watching Batman and Robin and you're going, everything about
1156
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:36.159
this movie sucks. No one should be allowed to be like, oh,
1157
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.880
fucking George Clooney sucks.
1158
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:38.039
Uh.
1159
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:44.599
Look, clearly, George Clooney has won Oscars Academy Awards since
1160
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.440
Batman and Robin. You know who else has? The writer?
1161
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:52.199
Akiva Goldsman, who wrote a Beautiful Mind, and also Constantine,
1162
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:57.000
who has written tons of very passable Star trek at
1163
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.159
this point, I won't say brilliant, but he and I
1164
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:04.960
have a you know, fairly uh chasmic difference on what
1165
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:06.159
we think star treks should be.
1166
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:07.079
Gotcha.
1167
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.199
But uh, I'm not saying he's not a good writer.
1168
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.679
I'm just saying, as stop as he puts it, body
1169
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:20.159
checking Cannon, you fuck. But you know, I'm just pointing out,
1170
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.079
like just because there was a bad movie in there,
1171
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.000
like the man got paid to write a thing and
1172
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:25.639
they said we want a toy commercial and that's when
1173
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.639
he fucking wrote. Okay.
1174
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.639
So I've never heard of anyone with an IMDb long
1175
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.000
enough that didn't have some story like that in there.
1176
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:33.840
Yeah.
1177
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.679
Yeah, I have yet to run across that autobiography.
1178
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.760
I have seen people worry that a Kiva was was,
1179
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.480
Oh no, he's an involved. He was involve he did
1180
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.920
Constantine one. And also he's he's a good writer. Just calm,
1181
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:52.119
comp shit down. God, just kinda hyperbolate all over the place.
1182
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.800
I mean, to some extent it can be seen as
1183
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:59.000
using someone's junior high prom picture.
1184
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.000
Mm hmm. But yeah, uh. Francis Lawrence is the director
1185
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:05.760
is very excited about this. We have finally gotten to
1186
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.519
the place where we have no permission to go down
1187
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.159
that road. Akiva writing, Keanu and Akiva and I have
1188
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.199
been collaborating. I think we have some really really great
1189
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.320
ideas that we're super super excited about. Like Keanu says,
1190
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:17.920
you know, he's aching to play this guy again. I mean,
1191
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:18.920
they've got the passion. Now.
1192
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.800
I've watched a few, like a mint or two of
1193
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.800
that little clip mm hmm, mostly because I saw it
1194
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.199
said aching to play Oh cool, clicked it. And the
1195
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only thing that's really like, the most tangible part of
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it is the the contained excitement on Kanu's face when
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00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.239
it gets brought up. M about like what about he
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00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.960
just goes into his little teenage mode thing. It's It's cute,
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is what it is.
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Mm hmm.
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00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.679
He just he wants to say, he wants to say everything,
1202
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.639
but yeah, he's he's clearly, clearly still got the spirit
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00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.199
for it. It's exciting to watch.
1204
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.519
That he's filled with a spill.
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00:59:54.519 --> 01:00:02.960
It was now chewing gum.
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01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:04.119
Oh.
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01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.360
I actually gave my daughter candy cigarettes the other day.
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01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.559
Oh god, they didn't even know the steel made that.
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01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.519
I found some for like a dollar and bottom, just
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01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.679
so I could have the case. Uh, just because I
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01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:16.920
thought it was funny. And then at some point I
1212
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.960
was either gonna expire and I was desperate for a
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01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:22.000
little snack and a quick emergency trip. We had there everybody,
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01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.400
and hand her a couple, and then just a little
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01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.239
bit later hand her one more. Right as I was leaving,
1216
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.719
I passed her off to the wife. We're gonna beet
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01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:33.079
back at the house kind of thing, handed a couple
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01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:34.800
of the sticks over like she put one in her mouth,
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01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:36.119
Oh thanks, and just threw one in her mouth real
1220
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.599
quick while she had something with her hands. It looked
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01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.679
exactly like you'd hope it would. And uh, the wife
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01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:43.079
just looked, is that is that a candy cigarette? Yep,
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01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:45.920
yeah it is. And the look on your face is
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01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.360
totally worth the dollar twenty five. I appreciate it. Yeah,
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01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:53.400
that's that's everything I could hope for. I saw three
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01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.519
dollars for that smart I did.
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01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.440
I saw Real the other day where this guy was.
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01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.440
It was titled how I Felt as a Kid with
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01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.880
candy Cigarettes. And he's like wearing sunglasses and it's like
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01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.280
slow motion pan and he's like slowly putting this candy
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01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:11.840
cigarette in his mouth. And then we've got him he's
1232
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.440
like laying on the floor. We see him like pouring
1233
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.679
an AMC root beer in his mouth and crushing the
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01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.440
can and he's like laying on the floor and they're
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01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.840
doing like this like circular spin and he's just like
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01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:26.679
surrounded by candy cigarettes and like root beer canes.
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01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.199
That just that wasn't it for me? Like that For me,
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01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.760
it was it seemed more like in the I guess
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01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.480
it had like a late black and white filled to it,
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01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.079
where I would it was like a cigarette case kind
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01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.000
of fill to it. Yeah that's what I felt like.
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01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:45.800
Yeah, oh yeah, dude, I was for absolutely absolutely. I
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01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.039
agree with you, Like it is funny. The Real was funny,
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01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.039
and I get the kind of the notion of just
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01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.519
being like, yeah, I'm gonna have me a brew and
1246
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:53.519
it's like a root beer or whatever.
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01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:55.480
But yeah, mean he's doing like a raising Arizona's cover
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01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:56.880
kind of situation.
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01:01:57.480 --> 01:01:59.760
Yeah, but you know we're stupid and fucked up, like
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01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:03.760
we're both like of the that generation that was like
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01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.360
or of that specific niche part of our generation.
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01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:11.320
My old ship person I was idealizing at the time
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01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:13.239
was prescribed the cigarettes.
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01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:18.119
It's right, like you and I what we had, Katie cigarettes.
1255
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:23.079
I imagine that we were emulating like any protagon lead protagonist
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01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.000
in any given episode of The Twilly Zone. Yeah, like
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01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:29.239
we're we've got a suit coat on, we come in,
1258
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.360
we take off our hat. The wife is at the
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01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:35.039
bar mixing us a martini or maybe she'll like serve
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01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.760
some lemonade later, and our neighbors will come over and
1261
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:41.800
we'll have some CODs and you know, secretly talk about
1262
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:44.800
the rocket that's going to the earth for me.
1263
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:46.559
Like it could have It could be maddening, and it
1264
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:49.480
could be people we like tailcoats and the and the
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01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.320
cigarette cases. Or this could be more of a death
1266
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.360
of a salesman kind of situation, right, uh blowmack or
1267
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.480
whatever that was. But yeah, like that, it could be
1268
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:05.679
anywhere in that spectrum now spectrum Charlie Day, It's always sunny.
1269
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.840
A conspiracy meme situation that would be on my my
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01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.199
my board of things I was emulating.
1271
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:12.519
I think, mm hmm, I feel like I need you
1272
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:13.679
to respond to what I said.
1273
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:14.960
What I'm sorry I said.
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01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.800
We're in the we're on the spectrum, all right, Yes, sorry,
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01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.360
sorry I said it, and then.
1276
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.079
I was like, no, no, I didn't catch it.
1277
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:35.599
Recognition validation A Dynamic Duo. Good, Okay. So at this point, uh,
1278
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:40.000
we know that it's about Jason and Dick. They say
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01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:42.159
it provides a kind of perfect on ramp for family
1280
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:45.119
audiences into the world of Gotham. They are in pre
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01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.880
production right now on Dynamic Duo. If you'll recall, this
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01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.599
is like the animated movie about the Two Robins, and
1283
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.119
it's like the weird puppet animation.
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01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.119
I forgot the word that was ever involved.
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01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.199
Oh yeah, you remember that real I sent you of
1286
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:01.519
like the Puppets that look looks like it almost looks
1287
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.400
like Pixar, but like it's got like a stop motion
1288
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.079
nightmare before Christmas quality to it. It looks neat as hell.
1289
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.760
It's apparently not so far planned as part of the DCU.
1290
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.360
Apparently they said they might find a way to work
1291
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.400
it in, and this is one of those that only
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01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.920
one outlet respond even commented on it. I think it
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01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.480
was variety, but they said they might try and find
1294
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.480
a way to work it in. But as of right now,
1295
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:27.719
it's an island unto itself and does not fit with
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01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.039
their planning with the DCU.
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01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.760
I mean, okay, I think there's I mean, I'm okay
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01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:33.480
with those, right, I mean, I'm alright with that.
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01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.199
I mean, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. And
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01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.039
I you know, as I've said, I enjoy this shit
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01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.559
no matter what, whether it's part of a universe or
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01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.719
you know, TM or or what else.
1303
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.039
I keep thinking when you're collin shots is for in advance.
1304
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.039
If you've learned anything from the last God several attempts
1305
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:52.960
at this, it's some man calling your shot that far
1306
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:55.280
is like also hitching yourself to a lot of wagons.
1307
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:58.599
Yeah, well, this this is why they're very We're seeing
1308
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.760
so much of them saying so far or at this
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01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.840
point we're not saying it because they're tired of being
1310
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.480
called liars. Because people are just like Unheitld.
1311
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.039
They think those comments are going to save them. No,
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01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.920
oh yeah, I mean it will when you're paying attention.
1313
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:17.639
When you're paying attention, But you know, you know, at
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01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.079
the end of the day, I don't think the people
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01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.840
who are out there screaming about them being liars are
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01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:26.239
really going to be paid attention to. Like, I don't
1317
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.400
think it's gonna the box office numbers aren't going to
1318
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.880
reflect like the forty seven out of like one thousand
1319
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.679
people commenting on a thing. It's not going to reflect
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01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:41.480
the forty seven with their little laughing emoji like okay, buddy,
1321
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.880
hope that works out for you. Over to Blue Beetle,
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01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:49.239
I'll say, still an active development, the animated series that
1323
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:56.280
continues the Angel Menuel Soto story from the movie, and
1324
01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:59.880
still an active development. It would continue the events from
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01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:02.840
the film. Still good with it, Saffron set he expects
1326
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.639
the executive producers to present the project for a possible
1327
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:13.280
green light quote unquote pretty soon. Point yeah sure, And
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01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.360
he said he also springboarded from that into they have greenlight.
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01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:23.639
Three Younger Skewing animated series, all overseen by EP sam
1330
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.039
Register and produced by Warner Brothers Animation. The first one
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01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.320
up My Adventures with Green Lantern. They did release a
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01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.000
title card and I think it looks cool and it
1333
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.280
says My Adventures with Green Lantern will follow high school
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01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.519
student Jessica Cruz, who has her life up ended when,
1335
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:42.360
according to an official log line, a Green Lantern power
1336
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.559
ring falls from the sky and chooses Cruise to be
1337
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.360
its champion. Things get even worse, but more debris from
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01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:51.280
the Lanyard's ancient space war arrives, along with their alien foes.
1339
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:56.280
Jake Whitet is executive producing and Stephanie Gonzaga is a
1340
01:06:56.320 --> 01:07:01.360
co executive producer, and Jake Whyatt came out and said,
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01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:03.599
we're making a new show. Some of you had questions.
1342
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.480
The show will take place in the same timeline as
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01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.760
My Adventures with Superman. Stoked to expand and explore that
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01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:15.079
universe with my buddy Stephanie Gonzaga. Along with sharing an
1345
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:20.000
executive producer, familial, familiar title and timeline, Wyatt also revealed
1346
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.199
on social media that the shows will share some of
1347
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.920
the design team too, quote, we are going to bring
1348
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.920
as much of the Superman design team to Lantern as
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01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.960
we can. Uh. I'm excited about this. I enjoy my
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01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.159
Adventures with Superman. I like Jessica Cruz, I'm excited there's
1351
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:39.320
gonna be another a new Green Lantern animated series. You know,
1352
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:41.480
Green Lantern has always been kind of one of those
1353
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.800
like dark horse characters. Weirdly for someone to be like
1354
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.159
such a big shit in the Justice League and like
1355
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.400
for there to be a whole core of the motherfuckers
1356
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:56.880
and the daters, like I like, yeah, I like the
1357
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.960
fact they're bringing anybody or any Green Lantern. I know
1358
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:02.719
you're not a fan of my adventures with Superman.
1359
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:05.760
I mean, I'm not not a fan. It's I'll watch
1360
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.320
the next season. I'm just very mild on it, Like
1361
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.079
I kind of it kind of ended, and there were
1362
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.599
some cool moments and and I don't know, I'm all right,
1363
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.640
but didn't get swept away. I do get why they're
1364
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.319
doing Cruise though. I mean, if especially if they're staying
1365
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.439
in the timeline, it's going to be somebody else that's
1366
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:24.479
kind of learning their way, and Cruise is a great character.
1367
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.159
Yeah, well agreed.
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01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.319
Definitely young enough to be more relatable, so I get
1369
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.640
the turn on it. It's probably very exciting. I just
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01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.039
hits mildly for me because I kind of just I'm
1371
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.279
Lukewarman the universe. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it fair enough. Uh.
1372
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:40.479
They also announced DC Superpowers, which takes place at the
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01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:45.279
Alliance School for Heroes and focuses on new students Lightning, Flash,
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01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.039
Plastic Man, Aqua Girl, Green Landin, and Terra, who quote
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01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.479
level up their powers under the supervision of principal Martian
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01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.199
Manhunter in the hopes of one day graduating and becoming
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01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:57.319
the next generation of Earth's Defenders. Matt Beans is executive
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01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.520
producing and Michael Chang is a supervising produce sir, And Uh,
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01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.399
I'm this sounds a lot like the DC superhero Girls,
1380
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:08.039
doesn't it a little bit? Yeah? So, I mean, you know,
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01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.600
when I see something like DC's Superpowers, I'm like, I
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01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:12.920
think of the old line, the old toy line, and
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01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:14.640
I was like, I'm like, oh man, was were they
1384
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:17.039
gonna do some kind of like just like silver Rage
1385
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:20.399
high jinks? That's what I thought. And I'll admit I'm
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01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.760
a little disappointed by the by the synopsis, But I
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01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.760
will say, did is Lightning gonna be Black Lightning? They
1388
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:28.920
just took black They finally stopped calling him black Lightning?
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01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:29.680
Is that what's happening?
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01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:30.199
That'd be great?
1391
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.520
Is that what's happening? They'd be kind of neat.
1392
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:37.720
I mean, it's like, did.
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01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.479
Jefferson finally get to the front of the bus Jesus Christ,
1394
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.560
oh God, and then it's gonna come out.
1395
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.079
It's not him, it's not it's gonna be just yeah.
1396
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:47.920
I mean, you know, it's just gonna be some dude
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01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:49.039
who's a rip off of powder.
1398
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.600
Yeah. Or it might be one of his daughters or something. Yeah.
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01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.159
Wait, wait, wait are they they?
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01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.199
Oh god, what are they called? What were they called?
1401
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.119
Now I'm having trouble. Maybe one of them was It's
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01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:00.720
called lightning.
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01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:04.000
It wasn't as simple as they were just called thunder
1404
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:04.680
and lightning.
1405
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:09.039
Right, Actually, yeah, it was thunder and light.
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01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:11.199
It was Christ All right, there you go.
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01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:14.239
But you know what, I hope it's because we have
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01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:17.159
flash and plastic man an aqua girl, which is also
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01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.119
weird because I mean, I don't care if they gender
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01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:23.399
bend it whatever, but it's just a weird because Tera
1411
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.960
is there too, So it's like, okay, well that's a
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01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.760
teen Titans character and aqua girl.
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01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:30.520
Every time you see Terry, you're like, all right, well cool,
1414
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:31.560
I know where this story is going.
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01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:34.479
I hope not. I hope not. Just let her be
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01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.760
a hero, for God's sake, Let's let her just be
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01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.560
a hero who's not fucking an old man. Yeah, we
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01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.039
don't need fifteen year old Tara having sex with like
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01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:46.319
sixty year old death stroke.
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01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:48.319
Again, it's a weird story every time.
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01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:50.520
You know. And this can just actually be Jefferson Piers
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01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.319
called Lightning, and then when he retires he can give
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01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:54.600
it to his daughter. Jesus Christ, he doesn't have to
1424
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.079
be black Lightning. But it's weird because Flash and Plastic
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01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.800
Man and Green Lantern Tip you know, you know, typically
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01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:07.079
aren't younger heroes. They're not teamed up with an Aqua girl,
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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:10.239
which is usually you know, an alternate future version of
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you know, Aquaman's daughter or some shit. I don't know.
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01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:16.880
I don't know what I'm looking at, but I'm fine
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01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.479
with it. I'll check it out and see if it's
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01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.600
any good worth a damn you know. Yeah, never know
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01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.159
what they're gonna do. I'm not trying to gate keep
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01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:26.159
over here. They can have wonky ass timelines. Hell, I'm
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01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:29.399
just talking about Smallville with passion. We know what their
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01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:30.359
Justice League look like.
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01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:32.640
Weirdness, honest.
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01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:37.840
Thick Starfire. Starfire serves as the origin story for the
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01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:41.119
fan favorite title character, perhaps best known as part of
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01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.399
the Teen Titans. The show follows her adventures after she
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01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.960
uses quote an ancient spaceship she discovers on her home
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01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.000
planet of Tamaran to escape her planet and explore the stars.
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Along the way, she'll meet quote space biker crush, plant
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01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.560
loving Fern and the magical Princess Amethyst of gin World,
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01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.359
and together they will quote uncover the deepest reaches of
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01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:07.479
the DC universe, save space dolphins, surfed headnic colored nebulas,
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01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.680
and boldly sore into the unknown.
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01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:14.159
Your cadence isn't helping the overall sense that that was
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01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.960
written by someone coming down from something right.
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01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:22.239
Josie Campbell is executive producing and Briann drew Hard is
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01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:25.399
co executive producing. No one sounds fun. It sounds like
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01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.880
a girl show. But I, you know, luckily, and much
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01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:39.960
to my father's dismay, I like that shit too. Oh
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01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:44.399
I can I can hear the van in my father's
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01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:49.239
forehead bulging from one hundred miles away. Yeah, he doesn't
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01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:50.079
know why he's angry.
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01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:53.239
Every time you turn on another one of these shows,
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01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:54.840
his testosterone drop somehow.
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01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:59.680
He's like he just bought the DVD box set of
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01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:01.119
Jim Grams.
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01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:05.399
Yeah, I could feel it.
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01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:13.640
Oh all right, so now time for your blood pressure
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01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:14.159
to go up.
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01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.399
Oh a second.
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01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:24.840
Batman Ninja Versus Yakuza League. Oh I see, yeah, I
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01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.079
know you don't care that much. It's just it's funny.
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01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:28.880
I always laugh when I put it in the show
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01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:32.439
notes because I know you don't give a shit about it. No. No,
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01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:36.560
Batman Ninja Versus Yakuza League will arrive on digital home
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video on March eighteenth, next month, well this month now,
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this March first today, with four K eight with four
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01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.560
KUHD and Blu ray copies arriving at retailers on April fifteenth.
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Much like the original movie, the sequel is one that
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01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:56.279
will have both a Japanese and English dub, allowing anime
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01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:58.680
and DC fans to choose what kind of experience they
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01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:01.880
are looking for with The Dark Knights Back. Yeah, I'll
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01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:03.279
watch it. I know you won't.
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01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:07.680
Probably not. I'm always curious. I'm gonna end up eventually
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01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:10.239
getting bored and throwing one on to see how it goes. Yeah,
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01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.319
it's just likely gonna be a very short, like five
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01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:14.520
minute experiment that I'll never tell anybody want.
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01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:17.399
You're funny.
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01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:22.199
I'll just sort of turn it on, go yeah, and
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01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:23.960
then we'll sit there in my cue reminding me of
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01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:25.279
that experiment for for a while.
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01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.760
All Right, Well, I understand there's definitely stuff I have
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01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.880
like that that I struggle with. Like for me, even though,
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01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.000
like I swear to God, even though I enjoy what
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01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:38.479
I've seen of it, or at least one iteration of it.
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01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.800
DC Superhero Girls is like that for me. Like I
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01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:43.800
actually really like the one where Supergirl has like a
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01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.760
short haircut and a jacket, but the one that came
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01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:51.720
before when she was like in a Supergirl version of
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01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.039
a Catholic school girl outfit and they all kind of
1494
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.119
like bratstalls. I wasn't big on.
1495
01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:59.319
That was the first two seasons.
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01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.239
Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I didn't like the first version
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01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:04.680
of it, even though I still liked Batgirl in that one.
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01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.880
I always liked Babs.
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01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.560
Yeah, she went through some perial changes too, man mm hmm.
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01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:12.399
But I mean I've got hard to keep up with.
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01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.479
But literally, like as i've you know, well, they also
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01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:19.399
did movies and shit too, so but as like at
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01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:20.000
least those.
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01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:21.439
You knew you know what you're doing for about an
1505
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:21.880
hour and ten.
1506
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.960
Yeah, well, like even the like even when I had
1507
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:26.800
nothing for it. But at the same time, like I
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01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:28.640
say that, but if I was over at your house
1509
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.880
and Evelyn had it on, I'm sitting there like ignoring
1510
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:36.279
you and Christian like I'm still watching it, like going, oh,
1511
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:39.920
you know, I think it's time for a good another
1512
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:42.680
good time for a break. I feel like if that's okay.
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01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:44.640
With you, Yeah, I can get behind.
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01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:48.159
It alrighty well, we'll be back in just a moment.
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01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:50.880
Please bear with us after these short messages.
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01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:56.000
After these messages, we'll be right back. That's that old
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ABC shit Saturday morning.
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01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.000
I can hear the TV fuzz from here, huh, I
1519
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:03.399
can hear the TV fuzz from here.
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01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:09.239
Yeah? God, what I wouldn't give. I just want to
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01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.399
walk up to an old TV and like touch it
1522
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:14.159
and fill the static electricity on your back.
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01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:15.680
Here arm, just one more time.
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01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:17.239
Yeah, it's been so long.
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01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.640
We just gotta get a CRT somewhere. That's really all
1526
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.640
it is, is a CRT, A big one. M I'm
1527
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:23.680
sure that exists somewhere.
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01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:30.520
Maybe anyway, you're right back, m hm, oh right, we
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01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.159
are back. I wonder how many people heard that after
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01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:37.279
these messages. We'll be right back in between. There you
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01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:40.239
heard the wolf wolf or if you heard the Cowboy
1532
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:45.960
go yeah? Anyway, yeah, I mean there were different versions
1533
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:49.279
of that bumper, That's all I'm saying. Uh, well, I
1534
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:49.720
guess what.
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01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:51.520
The area of or the era of like.
1536
01:16:51.560 --> 01:17:00.840
Yeah, oh god, yeah anyway. Uh, you're at one of
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01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.319
my favorite parts of the show. It's time for WBT.
1538
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:08.039
Oh you should get easy and me appreciate it.
1539
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:15.720
Yeah, well, I'm in pain. Oh god. James Gunn was
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01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.840
talking about his favorite DC project that hasn't been announced.
1541
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:24.840
He says, well, he was at he was reflecting on
1542
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:26.479
how he feels about the things they've announced and if
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01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:27.319
he has any regrets.
1544
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:28.239
I see.
1545
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.760
But along the way he did say this. I mean,
1546
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.760
life is complicated. There's always little things like I wish
1547
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.640
I did that differently. I wish I asked David to
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01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.119
do that take differently. It's just like little things. There's
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01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:42.560
writers that we put on projects that I wish we didn't.
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01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:46.119
But overall, I feel just so lucky. I mean, the
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01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:49.439
fact that Anna Nogia was on Supergirl, came out with
1552
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:53.520
this great script, the fact that there's another, well, my
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01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.640
favorite project. Nobody even knows about yet. It's been my
1554
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:59.640
favorite project for a few months. Nobody even knows it.
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01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.359
We're an organization of basically thirteen people that's able to
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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.000
produce all this material and have it go and have
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01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:09.920
it all be high quality. We're going to make mistakes,
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01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:13.119
some things are gonna be better than others. So we're
1559
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.479
doing everything we can to make everything as good as possible.
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01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:18.840
And I feel remarkably fortunate.
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01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:21.720
Then good speech, he's trying.
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01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.880
And then Peter saffrancas as hard as we are on ourselves.
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01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.600
If two years ago, when we all sat in this
1564
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.560
room together we said this will be your output two
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01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.359
years from now, I think we would have been surprised
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01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:36.479
that we could accomplish that much, particularly with the five
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01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.159
months of pencils down in our first year that they
1568
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:42.760
were always really problematic for everybody. So I think we
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01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:44.239
feel pretty good.
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01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:48.079
Yeah, I agree, they have made remarkable progress for what's
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01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:48.760
been under.
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01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:51.479
Yeah, and you know, and I'm seeing some people saying, like,
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01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.680
you know, oh, he wishes he he regrets not putting
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01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.880
certain writers on certain things. He's blaming the writers. Motherfucker's
1575
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.439
just sometimes writers you think they're gonna be good for thing,
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01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.800
and then you put it on put them on there,
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01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.319
and then you're like, oh, they weren't the ones. That's
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01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:08.159
all it's gonna be for anybody's.
1579
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:10.640
None of that necessarily means that that's what you saw.
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01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.359
People take passes at things, and you can regret the past.
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01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.560
You can regret the pass I mean, who among us
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01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.479
was there any single fucking person. I'm sure someone will
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01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.000
say they were, but was there anybody who fought Jeff
1584
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.039
Johns was gonna be as shit as he was working
1585
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:31.239
on the movies? Did we really believe Geoff Johns would
1586
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:33.119
turn out Wonder Woman eighty four?
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01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:38.800
I didn't after what he accomplished on paper. Nope. Was
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01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:40.520
it was not the expectation.
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01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:44.680
So I'm sorry whatever. During the President, Gun addressed the
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01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.319
reduced pace of his current writing schedule compared to his
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01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.239
initial year at DC Studios. He says, the first year
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01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:52.439
I wrote I think six hundred and fifty pages, and
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01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:55.079
the next year I filmed six hundred and fifty pages.
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01:19:55.560 --> 01:20:02.439
I cannot do it again. I really just can't, he says.
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01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:03.319
With a sigh.
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01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:06.840
He says, I'm not I'm not physically capable of doing it.
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01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:12.760
I can't do it again. Of course that included Superman
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01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:17.920
and Peacemaker and Creature Commandos and overall framework for gods
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01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:22.359
and monsters. And they've expanded the team. They've got Drew Godard,
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01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:26.239
now they've got Jeremy Slater, Christina Hodson, Crystal Henry. I
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01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.199
do love that Christina Hodson is still around. She was
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01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.000
one of those shining lights in the pantheon of the
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01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:38.279
shitty Hamada years. And of course Tom King Gun says
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01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:40.880
I'm writing something else now that would be the next
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01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:44.359
directing thing. It's connected, without saying exactly what it is.
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01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:47.680
When asked directly about a potential Superman sequel, Gun responded
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01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:51.359
by noting, quote, I'm writing something that's within the DCU,
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01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:56.640
maintaining deliberate ambiguity about the project's identity. So someone said
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01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.960
it's not Superman too, and Gun says, I didn't say
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01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.079
that it's not Supermanto.
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01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.680
Well, shit, man, that's just a shitty set of question answers,
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01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:13.000
because you can do that with anything and make it
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01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:14.000
sound like it is a thing.
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01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.039
Yeah, But at the same time it's like, oh, so
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01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.359
Supermanto or it's not Supermanto. I didn't say it's not supermanto.
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01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:25.039
It's not Revenge of the Nerds.
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01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.720
Ten I didn't say that now. Per Variety, Saffron noted
1618
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:32.439
that DC Studios is ultimately aiming to release two live
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01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:36.279
action films and one animated film per year, and two
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01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:39.600
live action and two animated TV series per year. But
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01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.720
the executives also reiterated the overall philosophy guiding their creative choices,
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01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.640
namely that no project will get a green light until
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01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:50.079
Gun and Saffron are satisfied with a completed screenplay. Now
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01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:52.319
that doesn't count for the TV shows. We already know that.
1625
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:56.000
He said that it is hard enough making a good quote.
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01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.039
It is hard enough making a good movie with a
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01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:00.880
good script. It's almost impossible making a movie with a
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01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.800
script that you're writing on the run.
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01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:05.560
This is why, for example, who hurt him? Now I'm
1630
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:07.479
at a point we're almost wanting to list the movies
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01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:10.119
that he knows went down that way, the projects that
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01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:11.439
he knows went down that way.
1633
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.359
And oh, you know what it was? It was one
1634
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:19.239
him working with Marvel, watching his friends all drop like flies,
1635
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.359
like fuckers going in and directing movies, Taika going in
1636
01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:27.880
and directing four and knowing that like, oh, we were
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01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:30.119
gonna keep changing it. We're gonna shoot everything on a
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01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.880
fucking green screen. We're gonna change everything in editing. You're
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01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.800
not gonna have any say over like what because how
1640
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:40.640
it's gonna go down, Like I'm telling you it's specifically
1641
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:44.159
with Taykers. Yeah, because like gun said that, he he
1642
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:48.239
had artistic control on his Marvel films. But then also like.
1643
01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:49.800
Just not everyone got that.
1644
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.960
Being a fucking audience member sitting and watching DC like
1645
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.960
scramble and reshoot and scramble, like he came in just
1646
01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:58.880
at the tail end of watching what was going on
1647
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:00.680
with the Flash and going cheez christ y'all.
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01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:03.840
Yeah, I mean I get it.
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01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.239
And also everything James Gunn saying here is like trying
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01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:13.760
to reassure fans and reporters and everyone involved here that like, yes,
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01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:16.520
I recognize what the issues are, what the problems are
1652
01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:19.640
with comic book movies today. We are having the same problems.
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01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:22.239
I'm having the same problems you are with Marvel and
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01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:24.319
how they are handling shit, like.
1655
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.800
Well, there's one thing. There's a pointy kids specifically, and
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01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:31.000
it's he just they reiterated there, it's the not until
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01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.600
I see a script that we like, and I just
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01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:35.000
that's the part, Like, I yeah, he's done a great
1659
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.960
job of setting expectations on that, but I feel like
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01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:40.439
every time he says that he's talking about a project
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01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:42.720
where like they got into it the script wasn't even
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01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:44.520
ready and it was just an absolute nightmare and he
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01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:45.439
went no, never again.
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01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.520
But well he's also head of DC and he knows that.
1665
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.479
Like one thing that we've gotten over at DC and
1666
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:53.960
one thing that Marvel is actually doing as well now
1667
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.840
is that we're seeing happen over and over announcing shit
1668
01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:01.840
and then abandoning that and changing the slate we've been Yeah,
1669
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:04.760
DC and Marvel. Marvel's been doing it.
1670
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:09.840
Since I don't know what the beginning of Time in Humans. Yeah,
1671
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:12.640
but the that was supposed to be like twenty twenty
1672
01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:13.439
I know, but.
1673
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.640
Like DC's been doing it since, like Snyder.
1674
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:18.119
The beginning of popped up.
1675
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:21.239
Like we Yeah, but even before that with but.
1676
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:23.000
With I really think twenty twenty one was supposed to
1677
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.960
be like Justice League Part two originally. Yeah, it was
1678
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:30.359
a crazy time and some credit where it's our forgiveness
1679
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:32.239
where it's due, Like yeah, I mean you got certain
1680
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.439
actors that you had banked on that didn't work out.
1681
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:37.880
Stuff like that. Yeah, you make adjustments. I'm good with that.
1682
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:40.119
But you know, they were tweaking well for certain things.
1683
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:42.439
But they fucking they did that whole special on WB
1684
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:46.279
where they are CW, I should say, with Kevin Smith hosting,
1685
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:50.760
where they announced they showed fucking uh what was it?
1686
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.600
Design art. They showed character designs, and they showed like
1687
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.920
storyboards and like for Flash that was supposed to come
1688
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:02.880
out in twenty eighteen and the Cyborg movie, and they
1689
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:07.119
announced they gave a whole slate of things that did
1690
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:08.159
not come to fruition.
1691
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:10.039
I want to say Green Lantern was supposed to be
1692
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:10.640
twenty eighteen.
1693
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.119
Green Lantern. Cores was like, yeah, it was like twenty eighteen.
1694
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.800
Yeah, it was just basically every Justice League member got
1695
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:18.880
a film. Yeah, we were very sure about how that
1696
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:22.119
was going to go down until pretty much BBS hit.
1697
01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:27.199
There's a fun narrative to be told.
1698
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.920
God, I think we've told it for ten years.
1699
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:31.800
You know, I mean, one day when it's more fun
1700
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:32.640
to go back and look at it.
1701
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:37.039
Yeah, I will be dead about thirty years before that
1702
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:38.359
is of any interest.
1703
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:40.960
No, I mean there are things that I think are
1704
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.279
new and interesting about it. It just now that we've had
1705
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:47.079
time to digest it. Even even then, I view it
1706
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:49.119
very differently than I did at the time. Now that
1707
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:51.880
I see the patterns that weren't clear at the time,
1708
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:53.079
certain things changed for me.
1709
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:53.520
Mm.
1710
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:56.279
I almost would like to revisit the timeline and go, Okay,
1711
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:58.119
I remember feeling this, but now I see this and
1712
01:25:58.199 --> 01:25:59.159
just see what changed.
1713
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.000
Yeah, I can see that. You should just start re
1714
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:03.079
listening to our show.
1715
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:10.239
Yeah, that sounds terrible. I'm gonna abandon the idea, all right.
1716
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.720
Speaking of goals though, Oh no, you know what, I
1717
01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:19.960
just read that nice DCU movies and TV shows standing
1718
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:22.840
on their own to us. Let's do that topic. As
1719
01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:26.359
we've talked about before, Gun says, each one of these stories,
1720
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:28.279
each one of these projects that we're doing, needs to
1721
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.760
be able to stand alone. Somebody needs to be able
1722
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:32.840
to go see Superman, you know, without having to have
1723
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:36.720
seen Creature Commandos. Somebody's got to watch Lanterns without necessarily
1724
01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:40.279
having have having to have had to watch Superman. We
1725
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:42.439
have great connectivity between these things. There is a lot
1726
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.760
of connectivity between Superman and Peacemaker, including a lot of actors.
1727
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.239
We want our few actors we want to continue to
1728
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:51.560
have these stories connected but not completely dependent on each other,
1729
01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:55.439
and while dc you movie and TV shows will work
1730
01:26:55.479 --> 01:27:00.760
on their own, Gun says fans, sorry, cun assured fans
1731
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:03.239
that quote, we are telling a larger story that will last,
1732
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:05.880
you know, a little bit of time. And he also
1733
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:09.319
emphasized the importance of the writers to the DCU, indicating
1734
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.920
his mindset when it comes to the franchise. As we said,
1735
01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:15.279
he says, you know, a couple of years ago, we're
1736
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:19.159
completely a writer different organization, screenplay driven company. We're always
1737
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.479
going to put quality over quantity, and the first thing
1738
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:23.279
that drives us is making sure that we have a
1739
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:26.199
great script. This is a brand that's endured eighty plus
1740
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.000
years and contains some of the greatest heroes and villains
1741
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:33.640
that the world has ever known, maybe even the greatest now.
1742
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:35.880
In my humble opinion, a couple of the greatest. Yeah.
1743
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:40.119
Sure. Our friend and listener f e Ap Pelders has
1744
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:45.800
some feedback, some question in regards to this. She says,
1745
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:50.479
while I wheartedly agree with Gun's emphasis on finalizing screenplays
1746
01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:54.680
before greenlighting anything, could the resulting reordering due to quote
1747
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:59.800
unquote unplanned projects quote unquote cutting the line and releasing
1748
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:03.760
four planned projects end up detracting from the cohesion and
1749
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:08.399
overall DCU narrative. Not to suggest that there's no place
1750
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:11.720
for side stories and characters, but might we end up
1751
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.479
in another situation with a bunch of separate nearly else
1752
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:18.039
world like Corners of the Universe, watering down the broader plan,
1753
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:22.039
reinforcing the old brand image. Because we want to hit
1754
01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:25.119
two films and two shows a year. If they're good
1755
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:27.600
stories and ready for production, that's sweet. But I sometimes
1756
01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:30.119
worry that quote you have to be able to watch
1757
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:33.000
any one of them without homework unquote may feel like
1758
01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:36.319
we're not progressing all that much, even compared to hypothetically
1759
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:39.920
getting fewer core films over the same time span.
1760
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:43.520
I mean, I think she had a core point there.
1761
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.119
Tempo is what matters.
1762
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:45.640
M hm.
1763
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:50.039
They've got the chance to decide that the Marvel tempo
1764
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:52.439
isn't the one they're going to use. And I don't
1765
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.199
know exactly how we're gonna hit with that. Either. Everyone's
1766
01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:57.479
used to movies coming out in a certain period of time, Yeah,
1767
01:28:57.560 --> 01:28:59.800
which Marvel is scaling about to inside three years.
1768
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:01.000
Yeah.
1769
01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.000
They they were hitting real hard, real fast up front
1770
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.520
half and they're hoping second half to do it a
1771
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:06.279
little bit differently.
1772
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:09.199
Well, I mean, all these companies putting out so much
1773
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:12.399
shit is killing the VFX artists is killing It's making
1774
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:17.000
the movies look worse. I agree, Marvel specifically and recently
1775
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:20.319
DC specifically in the Hamadi years. I feel like, but
1776
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:25.479
you know that starting with Justice League twenty seventeen, we're
1777
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.239
doing it too where it was just like you're writing
1778
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.039
by the seat of your pants, you're writing in the
1779
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:32.800
editing bay. Everything's on a green screen. You're changing shit
1780
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:36.840
left and right. You know, after you've it's been produced,
1781
01:29:37.319 --> 01:29:41.359
you're going back for numerous reshoots. It's clear that we
1782
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.760
are watching some sort of like.
1783
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:46.399
High stakes improv. Is what you're basically describing.
1784
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:51.760
Basically, I was gonna say like strained peaches, baby doodoo,
1785
01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:55.319
but whatever. I mean, it's like you're doing what are
1786
01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:57.880
we doing? It's like, it's shit, this is this is
1787
01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.479
not a constructed house. This is sheet held on by
1788
01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:07.399
fucking a hot glue. Situation like this is terrible, and
1789
01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:11.079
we're seeing the seams. I enjoyed thor Love and Thunder.
1790
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:13.840
It wasn't a masterpiece. It wasn't anything that I was
1791
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:17.199
necessarily proud to have said. I sat and watched for
1792
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.319
a couple hours. It was fun, but I never felt
1793
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.840
like I was watching I never felt like I was
1794
01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:27.800
watching anything that required existence. Like you know, you watch
1795
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:30.399
something and just go, oh, that needed to exist, Yeah,
1796
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:31.479
iron Man one.
1797
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.239
That's actually how I talk about songs. That's the phrase
1798
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:34.960
I use sometimes.
1799
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:36.720
Yeah, and so this.
1800
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.520
If something just doesn't get to me, and that's the
1801
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:41.479
thing I think, I just don't feel like it had
1802
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.720
to be here. Yeah, And then someone says, but I
1803
01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:48.079
love Jack Gone jump sor wherever's name is. But that's
1804
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.279
that's my fault. I still think it's gonna be tempo, though,
1805
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:54.039
like you have to you really have to have like
1806
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:55.840
for it to tell a longer story, we've got to
1807
01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:57.760
be able to remember what's going on, So you're dealing
1808
01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:59.520
with human memory. I understand that you're gonna have to
1809
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:01.640
have it at a certain pace to be able to
1810
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:03.520
keep up with or for everyone to be able to
1811
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:06.960
keep up with the story. But they don't have to
1812
01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:09.560
do it every six months or whatever. It was early
1813
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:13.479
on like two shows, you know, a movie and a half,
1814
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:16.560
and god, probably some comic books at that time.
1815
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:19.279
I think the most important thing is for them to
1816
01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:22.239
make good movies. And I think that's where James is too.
1817
01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:25.399
They need to be movies that you watch and you go, well,
1818
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:26.479
that needed to be made.
1819
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:27.399
I agree.
1820
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.720
And if they can get that done, then they need
1821
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:34.239
to start worrying about the clock maybe putting out I mean,
1822
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:35.680
I don't evenin they need to worry about a clock
1823
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:37.760
so far, like, they can have a goal, but I
1824
01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:40.039
don't need them to meet it. If they're going to
1825
01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:42.800
be putting out a subpar thing just to meet it,
1826
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:43.560
I don't want it.
1827
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:45.880
Well, I agree, but there are limits to that, like
1828
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:48.279
the I forget which one of these series it was
1829
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:52.119
one of tom Kings that it started coming out on
1830
01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.720
a certain timeframe, but it just it just got changed
1831
01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.479
and they basically just said, we're not comfortable with it yet,
1832
01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.680
we need all more time. And great, that's that's fantastic.
1833
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.439
But you know, we've joked about at this point how
1834
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.359
we're starting to forget what the hell the Batman movie
1835
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:08.840
was up to and wonder if we're ever gonna see
1836
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:09.479
it again, Like.
1837
01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:10.600
Uh huh.
1838
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.680
It it does have to be within a certain reasonable
1839
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:15.760
timeframe for it to still be poignant.
1840
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:19.239
Yeah, maybe, but these things are you know, available on Max.
1841
01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:21.159
You can go back and watch them, and I think
1842
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:23.920
people will. People are you know, you see the people
1843
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:26.640
who love the Batman and love Penguin, they're what rewatching
1844
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.560
it all the time anyway, Like, you know, I think
1845
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:33.279
the general audience might go back and watch the first
1846
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.800
Batman movie or they might just like go and be like,
1847
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:38.079
let's see what's happened. Well, I'll just go watch it.
1848
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.279
It looks cool, I you know to that.
1849
01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:42.119
And there's a real human problem there with like you
1850
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:45.079
have to catch one person in their timeline that actually
1851
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:46.560
cares about the second one of those things.
1852
01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:49.239
Yeah, but I mean, look how long was between what
1853
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:52.960
Dark Knight and Dark Knight rises that people like poured
1854
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:55.840
into the theater. Like the amount of time between those
1855
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:59.199
like just made people like more desperate for it.
1856
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.960
Agree, but look what we got.
1857
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.840
I didn't say it was good. I mean a lot
1858
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:07.720
of people thought it was and still think it was.
1859
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:10.239
I do think that that might be that that might
1860
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:14.520
be a weird experiment is yes, but it does have
1861
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:16.640
other things in its favor that might prove to be unique,
1862
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:21.479
like Nolan being a thing. The Dark Knight itself was phenomenal,
1863
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:25.479
especially for its time it it resets and bars Man,
1864
01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:27.279
we all we all knew exactly what that movie had
1865
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.359
done m hm, and just things were less accessible, like
1866
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:32.760
that was the only thing to do was go see
1867
01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:35.720
I mean, comparatively, the only thing you were thinking about
1868
01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:37.439
doing was going to see on you know, what the
1869
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:40.079
hell you'd been up to for four years. Yeah, I
1870
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:41.880
think the landscape might be a little bit different, not
1871
01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:44.960
so much that it might definitely nudget, but possibly.
1872
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.560
And for me, you know, I'm the one that goes back,
1873
01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:51.840
much like you looking back at the slate how that
1874
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:53.840
turned out. I look back at the Dark Knight and
1875
01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:56.720
go I feel like I may have been duped. I
1876
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:58.359
don't think this was as good as I thought it
1877
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.520
was at the time. I agree Keith Ledger was, I'll
1878
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:01.880
give him.
1879
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.079
I agree that there's plenty that in retrospect.
1880
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:08.399
You see what they're setting up in rises that I'm
1881
01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:18.119
just like, I mean, all versions valid, but christ anyway, Yeah, I.
1882
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:20.079
Definitely agree that it felt better at the time, But
1883
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.119
to that point, it felt amazing at the time.
1884
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.840
Yeah, Effie, I don't know about the narrative cohesion. This
1885
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:28.800
is a thing that we're gonna have to, Like, I
1886
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:31.199
feel like it's too early to be concerned about it, honestly,
1887
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:33.039
so far.
1888
01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.079
I just from a production standpoint, I don't think so,
1889
01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:36.479
because I think you have to plan for the timing,
1890
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:37.239
like I'm talking about.
1891
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:41.359
But yeah, I mean for I'm saying for me as an.
1892
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:43.199
Audience member, as a wary viewer.
1893
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:47.560
As a as a audience member who has been shit
1894
01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:54.000
on and jerked the fuck around since twenty sixteen. Yeah,
1895
01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:57.720
you know, there's just nothing like I've got. I have
1896
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:00.960
no more worry left in me, really, for real, Like
1897
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:06.399
I have mild concerns, but narrative cohesion is not one
1898
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.960
of them right now, because you know, so far with
1899
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:13.359
Creature Commandos and what I've seen of Superman, I mean, yeah,
1900
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:16.640
seems pretty on point. I'm digging what they're putting down.
1901
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:21.439
I liked Peacemaker season one. I you know, it feels
1902
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like they're kind of just continuing from there. I understand
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the Suicide Squad isn't strict canon and it's just like
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a bad memory or something whatever the fuck he said.
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I just it doesn't I'm not worried about it at
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the moment.
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And uh uh, well, the one product we have that's
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supposed to be soft Cannon is it's hard, soft game,
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whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, Commandos was very retrospective
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in what it was. I mean, I've talked about several
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times it is how much of that is just making
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sure we knew all the story so you know, if
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we're just talking about what we have, they're very considerate.
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But you know, by the end of Creature Commandos, we
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have a slew of new characters that we haven't met yet,
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at least in this in the series, and we could
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do the same format where we're giving backstories on you know,
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Collis and we're getting you know, all these different you
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know Commandos, these the Frankenstein's and a shit you know.
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So uh but here's the thing. I think by the
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time we know, by the time we were looking at
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it and we have an opinion on the DCU narrative
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cohesion and whether or not this is working, you know,
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it will have changed. It will have been to a
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point where like, okay, well, now this time for them
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to start really steering into a for real narrative cohesion.
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Because Gun has even said in previous interviews it will
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not always be this way. It's not always going to
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be a nobody has to watch everything to enjoy a thing. Eventually,
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slowly it will become more and more and more congealed,
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and it will become more necessary for people to catch
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up on all those things. But importantly, I think they're
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going to try to do it. I mean to scale
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it and keep it digestible in much the same way
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Marvel has pulled back because they realize, Fuck, nobody can
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watch all these Disney Plus shows and keep up with
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the movies. We just can't. You know how long it's
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been since I've seen a Marvel thing, well, Dead Pull
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and Wolverine. But yeah, I just decided to not catch up.
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It's not it's not crazy undoable. I mean, I'm I'm
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well ahead of it. The only thing I've not seen
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is the movie, and like I just I regret that.
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Hope I get to make any more. But that's all
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I'm behind is about two and a half hours.
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What do you? What do you? What? Movie? Something that's out?
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Captain America?
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Oh god, is there a Captain America out? Yeah?
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Okay, see there you go.
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Look when I took on this podcast, like man, Marvel
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really started slipping behind. Yeah, I've been struggling to keep
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up with Marvel for ten years.
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I mean Born Again hits in We're less than one
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hundred hours from Dared.
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Well, just fuck that all the way off, that's not happening.
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I never even finished the Netflix show.
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So actually that is a good point. I'm sure in
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a few seasons of the Netflix stuff.
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But and I've been seeing headlines where they're like, oh, yeah,
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we're doing the rest of the Defenders is an inevitability.
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I'm like, fuck, y'all, no, it's not.
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I think I'm short it is. I think Jones it
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is an inevitability.
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They will absolutely have iron fists up in there. Aunt
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Jessica Jones and Luke Cage absolutely don't even act like
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that's that's absolutely gonna happen.
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Maybe just I don't. I don't think anything's inevitability or
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not at the stage with them, just because they're making
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a lot of weird decisions and not weird decisions, but
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they're making a lot of decisions about what to do
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with things. I don't think things coming together like and come,
1971
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you know, all turning into one as inevitability anymore. Well,
1972
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and you know, maybe not pretty famously did not have
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a lot of chemistry when they did get together in
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there one or two seasons. Well, people said that I
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enjoyed the show.
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I didn't enjoy the show, but I didn't like Defenders.
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I thought it was a terrible show.
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I thought I just left a lot on the table
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for having all of them there.
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The chemistry I didn't have a problem with. It was
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just a boring fucking show. I just didn't like it.
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It was a little too iron fist and not enough
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dared devil. It was just boring.
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Maybe, yeah, I could see that.
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I was just going, like, what are they doing?
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What the major didn't I didn't know what we had
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done at the end of it. I still I guess don't.
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All right, well I'll stick to them some shit.
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Maybe a building fell and s Corney Weaver was there.
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I don't remember why she was there. Yeah she was there, Okay,
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I don't know why. But it felt like she was
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playing the same character that she played in the Cabin
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of the Woods. I don't know, man, I don't know
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what happened.
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She just plays giant sci fi Revehill now as a character.
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Yeah, she was like, oh, man, who could be by
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behind this?
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So yeah, she did the same thing in Paul.
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Mm hmmm, which is fine. More power to her. God
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bless the woman. Yeah, all right, let's move on. James
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Gunn has said that the DCU will only employ post
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credit scenes when they know they can pay them off.
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That's fine. Yeah, we're well past being annoyed if there
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is or isn't one, right, we got done with that one.
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Captain America laughed at us, so I was, and just
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I don't even look beforehand. I just try to minimize
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my news and take before just to a voice forward.
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So I'm gonna go into it, and then while the
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credits are rolling, I'm gonna go to that webpage that
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tells me where I can politely look like it'll be okay.
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I don't have to know before you And if there's
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not one, I'll just hop out the theater right then
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instead of sitting around and yep waiting. It's fine.
2014
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No gun In. Peter saffron fielded a question about post
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credit scenes and how they could or would factor into
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the overarching plot that connects movies to each other, and
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they hope to make the make or bake the plot
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points into the movies themselves, rather than teasing connections before
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and after each story. Gun thinks this will give writers
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more freedom in the long run, and avoids committing to
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of course too early. He says, we know where we're headed,
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you know, with the larger story, So this is Saffron Actually, James,
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make sure that those building blocks are going to be
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put in place. Then around that there's a tremendous amount
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of latitude in terms of what we can do. Gon agreed,
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adding that is easier to give each screenwriter the freedom
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if there are no cliffhangers left over from the last release.
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But in terms of those post credit scenes, like they
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could be a real nightmare. I've done things before where
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I've put in post credit scenes and you know, like
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writing Guardian's three, I was like, I wasn't really sure
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if Adam Warlock should be in it, but I fucking
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promised people, you know what I mean, And I'm like, oh, well, now,
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like I'm writing the script and things change and I'm like,
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he's kind of, you know, crammed in there. And I
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like him in the movie. I like the character, but
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it made it a little less elegant in some ways
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the film. So I'm really careful about those sorts of
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promises that we don't know that we can deliver on
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I get it. I like it.
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I do get it. It does seem like you do
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so many things in building universe that there's a lot
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of things where you could get yourself in that kind
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of trouble.
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Mm hm, So why do another one?
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I mean, yeah, why I add to the pile. But
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also that's a particular fifteen seconds to be mad at sometimes.
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Well, I mean, you know what you just said. I
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wonder who heard him? He just told you who heard him?
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There himself.
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He was like, I promised people this shit, and I
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didn't want to write them more. Locked in there. It's like,
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give me three three years, and all of a sudden,
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I'm back here trying to write the third one. I'm like,
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I didn't want to do that. Yeah, I thought I did,
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but now it seemed cool.
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At the time. But I mean, you can't run a
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whole world bending career that way. You have to you
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gotta call some shots.
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So yeah, all right, where he sat here? Right?
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He's being very specific about a stinger there.
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01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:04.720
Oh yeah. Peter Saffer said DC Studios Studios will not
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have a significant presence this year at Comic Con. Superman
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will already be open, no point to be there. That's true,
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Daniel Craig was never attached to Sergeant Rock. That's one
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of my favorite things.
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That it just was never a thing.
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Yeah. Yeah, He said that Daniel Craig was never attached
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to Sergeant Rock. The actor would have been floated for
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the role due to his creative relationship with the film's
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perspective director. He's not even absolutely directing who directed Craig
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in twenty twenty four Squeer. He says, we never met
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with Daniel. He was just an idea, and then Gun said, well,
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we never really even announced Sergeant Rock. Now, Brandon Davis
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reported that they said they're moving forward with it in
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some way, and it sounds really gritty, and they're talking
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about it like it's an experimental type of movie. He says,
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they're pridefully talking about doing lots of experimental stuff, things
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that don't fit into the standard comic book movie mole
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and this one would be a gritty, small war movie.
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But Brandon Davis said they're very excited about it. Yeah.
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I don't doubt that I would make a bet one
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way or the other on its existence.
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I believe Brandon Davis. He's never given me any reason
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to doubt anything.
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He said, well, I just mean whether it will actually
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come to existence.
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Might not.
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I believe the status as he's described it for sure.
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But according to the rumor is this is why we
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don't believe in rumor mills. Okay. And of course, and sadly,
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this involves the Hollywood Reporter who just a couple of
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days before this conference that they held, they reported the studio.
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As lost its integrity and a bonfire.
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Yeah, they're they're reported, Oh, the studios are hoping to
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shoot Sergeant Rock this summer, and they're actively looking for
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Craig's replacement, and the Bear star Jeremy Allen White could
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be in the running to headline the film. It's the
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fuck are they getting this ship?
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Didn't vent a story and then pick someone that looks
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vaguely like them.
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And yeah, as for Craig, it's unknown why he left
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Sergeant Rock. The Hollywood Reporter heard from some sources that
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scheduling issues were the culprit as Allegedly Craig's schedule ran
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into some roadblocks with that of his wife, actress Rachel
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wise Right.
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They could not be reached for comment. Reads we left
2108
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the voicemail another possibility.
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Another possibility is the actor dropped out because the drama Queer.
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Craig's previous collaboration with the director underperformed commercially on a
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support None of this shit happened. Oh, it just makes
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me so angry. They're just like stirring shit.
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Like the whole article is basically SI in ventialistics and
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reasons standard Craig couldn't do something in twenty twenty seven.
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Oh my god. Anyway, they did confirm that Anna Nogura,
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who is writing super or wrote Supergirl, is writing Teen
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Titans mm hmmm, and Saffron said that script's not ready yet.
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I think we did say that Anna Nogura is writing it.
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It is occurring to me that at some point I'm
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gonna have to like get my own little board going.
2121
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It's the problem memorizing it is that they are doing
2122
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so many things across media that at some point you're
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like at the Puppet movie, I'm like, the what movie?
2124
01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:10.239
The what the fuck?
2125
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:14.079
So this is one of my favorite exchanges here that
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was written about because Saffron said the script's not ready yet.
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I mean I think we said Anna Nagura is writing it,
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and Gun says we haven't said that, and Saffron said, no,
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I think it was out there. I think it was
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out there, and gun says, it's out there. It was
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something that Anna was really impassionate about and she turned
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over an amazing script for us. She's fiddling with that now,
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but it's definitely not a finished script. I love that,
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Like Gun was like, yeah, it's out there. We hadn't
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confirmed it. Dick, damn it, Pete. That was that's my
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interpretation just reading it, Jesus, and the.
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Other reading is like, instead of that, it's yeah, it's
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out there.
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M hmm. What's the deal with Baine Deathstroke movie? All right?
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01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:07.159
So reporter asked about the perspective death Stroke Bane script
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01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:12.039
written by Matthew Orton of Operation Finale and Moonnight. Saffron says,
2142
01:47:12.399 --> 01:47:14.439
you say that, like we've said that there's a death
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01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:15.560
Stroke ban script.
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01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:18.520
He apparently said that with a smile, having learned his
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01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:21.359
lesson from the previous I don't know.
2146
01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:23.520
I don't know if that was. I don't know if
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01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:26.520
that was. Like after that, he confirmed that.
2148
01:47:26.479 --> 01:47:28.520
Your narrative, it tells it, it goes, it does.
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01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:32.000
He did confirm that Orton is working on a script
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01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.279
for DC Studios, and Gunn said it's something kind of
2151
01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:41.840
like a death stroke Bain story. So all I've titled
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01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:43.960
this part the exasperation of headlines?
2153
01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:44.880
Gotcha?
2154
01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:49.159
So you're talking about, like some of these exchanges made
2155
01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:51.479
plain one of the challenges of running a superhero studio.
2156
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:53.479
Even the possibility of a new movie or TV show
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01:47:53.479 --> 01:47:56.359
featuring one of these characters as a development projects that
2158
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:58.159
may never come to pass for a host of reasons,
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01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.039
is enough to unleash a torrent of headlines, and Gun
2160
01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:04.000
and Saffron have clearly decided that it's worth the trouble
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01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:06.239
to maintain an ongoing open dialogue with the media and
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01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:08.039
with fans about what they're doing. But it was also
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01:48:08.239 --> 01:48:11.720
evident that their decision will come with his share of headaches,
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01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:14.560
fielding the question about Pattinson playing Batman and the braving
2165
01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:18.840
the bold, for example, Guns side in exasperation. These questions
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01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:22.119
become headlines because they say, have you ever talked about this?
2167
01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.800
We've talked about literally every permutation on the way to
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01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:28.319
come to this job in terms of how we're going
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01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.680
to handle and handle it, what actors were going to
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01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:34.239
continue over, what we were going to merge. We've talked
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01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:38.560
about everything. Have we ever talked about Grant Gustin. Yeah.
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01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:42.039
Have we ever talked about Robert Pattinson. Yeah, we've talked
2173
01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:49.039
about all those things, but serious conversations, No, I do.
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01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.920
I kind of feel them like I'm exasperated for him.
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01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:55.159
I don't deal with the shit as like the the
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01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:57.479
person who puts together news for a DC show. I
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01:48:57.479 --> 01:49:00.880
feel exasperated over it. Paradise Loss remains active development. By
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01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:05.319
the way, Wonder Woman prequel series Paradise Lost Gun says
2179
01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:08.279
Paradise Loss is totally still important and we're working heavily
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01:49:08.319 --> 01:49:10.159
on it. It just seems to be going pretty well.
2181
01:49:11.640 --> 01:49:17.399
Saffron said. The pilot's being written right now. Booster Gold
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01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:18.680
remains in development.
2183
01:49:19.159 --> 01:49:19.640
Mm hmm.
2184
01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:23.520
They're moving forward on developing the superhero comedy series Booster Gold.
2185
01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:28.239
They had weighted on a particular showrunner slash creator who
2186
01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:31.520
had expressed interest in the show, but that person moved on.
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01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:35.760
I'm glad that they're doing shit like that where they're like,
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01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:38.319
that's one of the things that gives me, going back
2189
01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:40.600
to what Effie was talking about, like that gives me
2190
01:49:40.920 --> 01:49:44.479
hope that they're willing to keep the quality and just
2191
01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:48.199
push shit back if it's if it's not working. I agree,
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01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:50.920
they're not going to force anything because it fits our mandate.
2193
01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:54.239
No, I mean, but there are two audiences to deal with,
2194
01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:57.600
those paying attention in those knot so for us paying attention,
2195
01:49:57.680 --> 01:50:00.319
we see the delay, we forget it. We're all good.
2196
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:02.800
But for anyone not you eventually got to give them something.
2197
01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:06.000
Well, for those not paying attention, they'll forget.
2198
01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:07.720
Most of them, they will, they will.
2199
01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:11.680
The only one will be you know, the usual suspects.
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01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:13.760
They forget, they move on. They don't realize it. It's
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01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.399
even there till it streams on something.
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01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.239
Mm hmmm. And that's gonna happen even if you are interested,
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01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:18.520
you know.
2204
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:21.800
Yeah, but yeah, you have to strike while the irons hot. Still,
2205
01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:23.680
that metaphor is gonna be around from it.
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01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:28.359
M hm uh. I believe it should be just for
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01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:31.439
remembrance purposes. It should be the anvil. We should strike
2208
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:35.479
while the anvil is hot or hard. Well, sure, I
2209
01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.359
guess the iron has to be on the anvil.
2210
01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:40.039
Yeah, I thought aout. It's actually an anvil. In my head,
2211
01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:44.039
the image is always just some like really sharpened or
2212
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:47.920
barely sharpened coarse lead stick. Maybe that's a pointy end.
2213
01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:51.439
Yeah, I made some comment the other day about where
2214
01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:53.279
the hell did all the anvils go or something like
2215
01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:57.560
why in looney Tunes, like there's anvils everywhere? Yeah, yeah,
2216
01:50:57.640 --> 01:50:59.720
and I will you'll ever hear about anvils anymore?
2217
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:01.960
And then it's on the list of things you thought
2218
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:03.199
would be a big part of your life.
2219
01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:07.039
Absolutely absolutely. I'm just like, you walk out, you go
2220
01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:08.560
to Walmart, you should have seen I've seen it, should
2221
01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:11.600
have seen twelve anvils. Yeah, uh, three of us are calling.
2222
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:13.760
Out someone who owns and knows how to use one.
2223
01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:16.399
And then uh. I said something to my friend naming
2224
01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:17.800
about this and she was like, oh, that's like a
2225
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:19.880
Gilmore girls. I'm like what She's like, Yeah, there's a
2226
01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:21.680
whole scene. She sends me the scene. It really is
2227
01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:23.840
Laurel Lie just like at dinner with her parents going
2228
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:27.239
like what happened to all the anvils? Like the what
2229
01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:30.720
the anvils? Like TV was like like looney like you know,
2230
01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:32.560
like Looney Tunes, you know, like why are they coyote
2231
01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:34.600
and the anvils? Or Mother's just like not having it.
2232
01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:36.439
She's like why are we talking about that? I beg
2233
01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:38.520
you please change the subject. This is the worst thing
2234
01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:43.840
I've ever heard anyway, and like her dad is actually
2235
01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:46.800
being like, oh, I think I think industry changed. I think.
2236
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:53.000
Just the uh nature of keeping the equin blah blah blah.
2237
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:57.079
I mean blacksmiths were so much more prevalent back then anyway.
2238
01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:00.720
But yeah, uh over then now, you know.
2239
01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:08.239
Booster gold Gun says the project is going pretty strong,
2240
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:12.600
and that does that. And I had several people saying that,
2241
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:15.800
and then we also had like three different outlets saying
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01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:19.079
it's dead, it's dead in the water and it's been
2243
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:23.199
put aside, it's been shelved. I'm like you, if the.
2244
01:52:23.199 --> 01:52:25.159
Pull quote is we had it with a show enter
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01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:27.319
and they moved on, then I guess that's what you'd
2246
01:52:27.319 --> 01:52:27.920
pull out of that.
2247
01:52:28.279 --> 01:52:31.880
I guess. But then he also said it's going pretty strong.
2248
01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:33.000
Out the door.
2249
01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:37.600
Oh okay, yeah, now what what did get put on
2250
01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:41.359
the back burner? Swamp thing? Hmm, swamp thing has been
2251
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:44.000
stuck in limbo because James man gold ran off and
2252
01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:49.439
made a complete unknown and uh, Waller Gun says it's
2253
01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:54.039
had a bumpy, bumpy road, and he said Waller has
2254
01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:56.880
had a couple of you know, setbacks. Frankly, it's not
2255
01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:00.079
where he wants it. But he also said this, the
2256
01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.760
Authority is stuck in limbo, and he says, it's a
2257
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:04.600
very very big movie if you're going to do the
2258
01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:08.039
Authority properly. In some story elements perhaps that are in
2259
01:53:08.079 --> 01:53:10.079
Superman and some of the other films that we fast
2260
01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:12.640
tracked step a little bit on the Authority. He also
2261
01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:15.479
said the script also had a harder time coming along,
2262
01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.000
so the film hasn't been as much of a priority
2263
01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:21.079
because it has been subsumed by everything from The Brave
2264
01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:24.520
and the Bold to Paradise Lost. Honestly, the Authority has
2265
01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:27.199
been the one that's been the hardest, both because of
2266
01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:30.479
the shifting overall story and because of getting it right
2267
01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:32.920
in a world with the Boys and a world with
2268
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.199
all the things that the Authority influence that came out
2269
01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:38.239
after it. And I think all of that is absolutely fair.
2270
01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:40.439
He's not saying he's afraid of the Boys. He's saying,
2271
01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:43.479
this is not right. We have to make sure that
2272
01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:46.479
we are doing it right in a world that has
2273
01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:55.479
already been largely an overwhelmingly, in an overwhelming way, ensconced
2274
01:53:55.479 --> 01:53:58.159
by the Boys and what the Boys is, and has seen.
2275
01:53:57.960 --> 01:53:59.720
That well, I don't know about the boys.
2276
01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:02.399
We all know about the boys, but.
2277
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:04.199
Yeah, you've got to find something to make it unique.
2278
01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:06.000
And if he's not hitting that, then he's just feeling
2279
01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:07.119
like it's not there yet.
2280
01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:10.960
Yeah, and you know, you can laugh Amoji all you want,
2281
01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.079
but that is what you want.
2282
01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:15.279
It's kind of honest. It's what it is.
2283
01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:17.720
It's honest, and it's exactly what you want. You want
2284
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:21.079
someone to go, well, shit, everybody knows this now, so
2285
01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:24.680
we've got to make sure that it is pretty special. Yeah,
2286
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:27.000
you don't want to put out a movie just to
2287
01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:29.680
have a movie and then have everyone be like whatever,
2288
01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:33.520
you're just yes, yeah, all right. So Gun posted a
2289
01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:36.840
picture with Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder came to the little
2290
01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:41.520
little think Tank room or whatever, and they took a
2291
01:54:41.520 --> 01:54:44.000
picture and posted it on Instagram and Blue Sky and
2292
01:54:44.119 --> 01:54:45.399
Twitter and whatever.
2293
01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:47.479
It's nice and.
2294
01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:52.079
Of course you know, they asked about it. Then Gun said,
2295
01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:54.720
we knew that people have this view that somehow we
2296
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:57.399
have been pitted against each other. It's odd to have
2297
01:54:57.479 --> 01:54:59.479
someone who you're friendly with in real life be the
2298
01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:01.880
guy that is position as your lex luthor or I'm
2299
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:05.520
his lex luthor. It's just such a weird dynamic that's
2300
01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:09.760
been created between factions online. What we were doing, he says,
2301
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:12.279
I was just talking to Zach as a friend, So
2302
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:14.840
you know, we were just hanging out and then we're like,
2303
01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:18.359
let's take a picture together. We knew full well what
2304
01:55:18.479 --> 01:55:21.359
we were doing. We thought it was funny. I thought
2305
01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:24.279
it was funny. He thought it was funny. And that's that.
2306
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.760
There's no movie with Zack Snyder planned. He wasn't posting
2307
01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:32.479
it to make people go, oh, I've got to go
2308
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.600
watch Superman. Nope. They're just a couple of trolls thinking
2309
01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:38.720
that they were going to make the Internet blow up
2310
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:40.920
for a day, and they did. He didn't even have
2311
01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:43.319
time to show him an early cind of Superman. They
2312
01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:44.840
briefly saw each other. They were just hanging out for
2313
01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:45.359
a few minutes.
2314
01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:48.239
Yeah, that makes sense. And what of them thought well
2315
01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:49.199
this will fuck with him?
2316
01:55:49.399 --> 01:55:51.560
Oh yeah. They were all very happy about it. They
2317
01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:52.600
were both very happy with it.
2318
01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:54.159
Yeah.
2319
01:55:54.359 --> 01:55:57.359
So, according to Variety, there were times when it sounded
2320
01:55:57.399 --> 01:55:59.439
like the Creative Mandate's Gun and Saffron had sent for
2321
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:02.960
the larger Das universe, were somewhat at cross purposes. On
2322
01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.760
the one hand, Gun said that they quote remain steadfast
2323
01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:07.920
and making sure that each of these projects works as
2324
01:56:07.960 --> 01:56:10.479
a standalone project, so that you can see Superman and
2325
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:12.319
you can watch Lannerds without having to see both of them.
2326
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:15.199
On the other hand, Saffron said that the entire reason
2327
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:18.760
they're relaunching DC Studios as an endeavor unifiing unifying all
2328
01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:21.600
DC projects across the film, TV, animation, and video games
2329
01:56:21.600 --> 01:56:24.000
is that quote, people want to see these iconic characters.
2330
01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:27.800
Interacting to that end, Gun said that he has mapped
2331
01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:29.960
out a roughly six year plan to tell a wider
2332
01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:33.279
story that would result and culminate in a culminating project,
2333
01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:36.760
again to Marvel's Avengers movies, though he still insists that
2334
01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:40.600
each individual project works as its own thing. It isn't
2335
01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.640
like chapters of an overall story. There are characters that
2336
01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:46.560
are part of an overall story that may seem like
2337
01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.920
a distinction without a difference, but Gun is clear that
2338
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:51.840
he knows where the overall story is heading. I'm intimately
2339
01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:54.399
involved with all that. To me, that makes perfect sense.
2340
01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:57.840
It's not an overall story. It's a bunch of characters.
2341
01:56:58.279 --> 01:57:01.039
We're telling their stories, We're getting the know them. It's
2342
01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:04.760
everything that people complained that we didn't get with DCEU.
2343
01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:06.960
They were just like, Oh, you're just putting together a
2344
01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:10.159
fucking Justice League so fast, I don't even care about
2345
01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:10.800
any of these people.
2346
01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:13.880
Fine, fine, I mean yeah, you made them thrown together
2347
01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:15.800
in like five hours worth of movie.
2348
01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:18.800
I still and I still believe that like when you
2349
01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:22.159
by the time you get the Zach's Justice League, you
2350
01:57:22.239 --> 01:57:24.399
have pretty much as much as you did with the
2351
01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:25.880
Avengers in their first movie.
2352
01:57:26.359 --> 01:57:29.000
I mean kind of. I just mean like it wasn't
2353
01:57:29.039 --> 01:57:32.600
laid out as here are the all the core members
2354
01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:35.319
and their origin stories. Here's that. It just was not
2355
01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:39.520
a clear line, like everyone had just gotten used to
2356
01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:42.319
I guess he's a guy or something, and then this
2357
01:57:42.359 --> 01:57:45.399
one's not gonna be back to that clear line at all.
2358
01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:47.520
Right. I also think there was just no way to
2359
01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:50.960
win in the Zach era. Absolutely not because if they
2360
01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:52.920
did what Marvel, everybody wanted.
2361
01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:54.800
To, but it would have been transcendent to a done.
2362
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:57.880
So well everybody was like, oh, it's gotta be like Marvel.
2363
01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:00.000
And then you know, if you did it like Marvel,
2364
01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:01.640
they would have said like, oh, you're just fucking ripped
2365
01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:05.079
off Marvel. I mean, there's no way to win. But Hi.
2366
01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:08.159
I wonder if they'd come out just straight up and said, yeah,
2367
01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:10.600
that pace works really well. We're going to do pretty
2368
01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:13.960
much that, give or take, and with our people we
2369
01:58:14.039 --> 01:58:14.439
all good.
2370
01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:18.239
And yeah, I don't know I would have done some
2371
01:58:18.399 --> 01:58:20.039
I think I would have done some version of both.
2372
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:22.840
But yeah, I have my own thoughts, but I wouldn't
2373
01:58:22.880 --> 01:58:28.399
have gone Zach's route. Maybe three percent Zach of what
2374
01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:31.680
they like, it's just like not what I would have done.
2375
01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:33.239
It's just not what I would have done.
2376
01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:37.640
We did also talk about one of the dooming factors was,
2377
01:58:38.760 --> 01:58:41.319
you know, Marvel kind of started with some be characters
2378
01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:46.840
basically and formed an Avenger situation. But DC started with
2379
01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:49.359
the most popular thing in the history of comics and
2380
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:51.399
try to work backwards from it, and they're just very
2381
01:58:51.399 --> 01:58:53.720
different things. Too many opinions up front, too fast.
2382
01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:56.920
Yeah, it was like, hey, here's the most popular thing
2383
01:58:56.960 --> 01:58:57.600
in comics.
2384
01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:00.560
Everyone has an opinion about it, and then three.
2385
01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:02.960
The next episode is gonna be here's the most popular
2386
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:06.840
thing in comics versus the actual most popular thing in comics.
2387
01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:10.560
Like yeah, yeah, but I mean you didn't like people
2388
01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.600
learned who the hell Thor and iron Man were through
2389
01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:16.359
those movies. Yeah, you didn't. It was not you didn't
2390
01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:18.920
grow up with opinions about thorn right, not everybody, And
2391
01:59:19.159 --> 01:59:21.920
of course everyone did, but not a ton of them,
2392
01:59:21.960 --> 01:59:22.840
it turned out, did not.
2393
01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.640
I mean I've said I've talked about this before, Like
2394
01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:28.760
I used to do that radio show Entertainment round Table,
2395
01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:31.600
and you know, I was doing it at the time
2396
01:59:31.640 --> 01:59:34.760
that BBS was scaring up to come out, and I
2397
01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:37.880
you know, one of the listeners said, you know, it
2398
01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:41.199
was shocked. That was wonder Woman. That was supposed to
2399
01:59:41.199 --> 01:59:44.119
be wonder Woman. That's not my wonder Woman. It was
2400
01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:47.039
just looking like people at about half the people that
2401
01:59:47.079 --> 01:59:49.199
we talked to about this thing, we're saying, like, why
2402
01:59:49.239 --> 01:59:51.159
would Batman have Superman fight? They're supposed to be on
2403
01:59:51.159 --> 01:59:51.680
the same side.
2404
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:54.640
Yeah, that was the major complaint the entire time from
2405
01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:58.079
everyone I knew. I don't know why they're fighting. Yep,
2406
01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:01.239
who's going in I don't know Man history. It's always Batman.
2407
02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:05.319
That's stupid super We can never actually win.
2408
02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:08.479
I know, dude. That's that's called tension. That's hopefully the
2409
02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:10.359
thing that they were building in you that would make
2410
02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:13.199
you go see it? Do you tend to now? All right,
2411
02:00:13.439 --> 02:00:15.079
that's stupid get talking to you.
2412
02:00:15.159 --> 02:00:18.600
They should be friends, okay, or.
2413
02:00:18.600 --> 02:00:20.319
In my case it was I mean at the time
2414
02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:21.960
it was a little bit of high and happy Thanksgiving.
2415
02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:23.039
I'm out here.
2416
02:00:24.199 --> 02:00:28.960
Yeah. Anyway, whether or not answering whether or not DC
2417
02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:32.560
character designs or DCU character designs will come to Fortnite
2418
02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:36.439
and other games, Gun says, the answer is definitely yes.
2419
02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:39.479
Saffron said, that's just a small part when talking about
2420
02:00:39.479 --> 02:00:42.560
our interactions with our gaming department. Those are things that
2421
02:00:42.760 --> 02:00:45.840
historically there wasn't a lot of collaboration on. Now we're
2422
02:00:45.880 --> 02:00:48.399
talking to Fortnite asking which character we should focus on.
2423
02:00:48.760 --> 02:00:51.079
James is literally signing off on designs.
2424
02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:54.039
Nice, well, whoever occurred to me to focus on that,
2425
02:00:54.079 --> 02:00:54.920
but okay, I know.
2426
02:00:56.359 --> 02:00:59.000
Guns specifically responded to one question about how long it
2427
02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:01.399
will be for the first dc YOU game to arrive,
2428
02:01:01.479 --> 02:01:03.920
to which he said it is still years off.
2429
02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:04.960
Fair enough.
2430
02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:07.520
Saffron then chimed in and said that he and Gun
2431
02:01:07.560 --> 02:01:10.680
have had active involvement on other gaming related things that
2432
02:01:10.720 --> 02:01:14.159
are coming a bit sooner. Specifics on what exactly this
2433
02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:17.880
could be weren't shared, but it could relate to crossover
2434
02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:21.479
content in other games as well as fortnite Gun said
2435
02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:23.920
it's a couple of years, and then Saffern said, yeah,
2436
02:01:23.920 --> 02:01:25.840
it's a couple of years, but we we've had some
2437
02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:29.119
pretty active involvement in some stuff coming out. This really interesting,
2438
02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:30.840
so there's that.
2439
02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:35.159
To be fair, though, it takes just forever to make
2440
02:01:35.199 --> 02:01:35.560
the game.
2441
02:01:36.119 --> 02:01:38.520
And by the way, you remember that in twenty twenty one,
2442
02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:41.560
we talked about this Wonder Woman game from Monolith that
2443
02:01:41.720 --> 02:01:45.600
was coming out. I was being worked on that. SIT's
2444
02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:49.119
been canceled, dude, and it's partly because of the failure
2445
02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:51.079
of Suicide Squad and multiverses.
2446
02:01:51.680 --> 02:01:53.920
Oh my god, I was I didn't think about multiverses
2447
02:01:53.920 --> 02:01:56.680
for a while. I tried him a freaking resource hog
2448
02:01:56.760 --> 02:01:59.119
the one I did try it, and I just don't
2449
02:01:59.159 --> 02:02:01.079
have any love for the paid play bullshit where I
2450
02:02:01.119 --> 02:02:03.199
have to go do some shit like that. So yeah,
2451
02:02:03.199 --> 02:02:04.800
it was a failure to begin with, but it was
2452
02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:05.439
a cool idea.
2453
02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:08.159
Yeah. Well, WB Games announced that it had scrapped at
2454
02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:11.760
solo Wonder Woman game and closed down closed down it's
2455
02:02:11.800 --> 02:02:16.760
studio Monolith Productions for good, along sign Multi Versus, developer
2456
02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:19.760
Player First and WB Games San Diego. In a move
2457
02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:24.000
the publisher called a quote strategic change in direction. Now,
2458
02:02:24.079 --> 02:02:27.920
comic writer Gail Simone revealed that she worked on the
2459
02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:28.800
wonder Woman game.
2460
02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:30.520
That's probably a good thing.
2461
02:02:30.720 --> 02:02:33.000
So you know, she's the longest running female writer on
2462
02:02:33.039 --> 02:02:36.359
wonder Woman. She said, I was asked to do long
2463
02:02:36.439 --> 02:02:38.560
term consulting on the game, and I was thrilled to
2464
02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:40.319
do it. It was a perfect storm of stuff. I
2465
02:02:40.359 --> 02:02:43.600
adore wonder Woman video games and one of my favorite
2466
02:02:43.600 --> 02:02:45.920
game studios, Monolith, who produced the game of the year
2467
02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:50.279
Mordor Games that I was completely addicted to. The game
2468
02:02:50.319 --> 02:02:52.960
was gorgeous and expansive. It was beautiful to look at.
2469
02:02:53.119 --> 02:02:55.399
I'm not going to give details for a number of reasons,
2470
02:02:55.399 --> 02:02:57.840
but every effort was made to make this not just
2471
02:02:57.880 --> 02:03:01.800
a great game, but a great wonder Woman game, a showpiece, epic,
2472
02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:04.279
and all of that was because of the team. Everyone
2473
02:03:04.319 --> 02:03:08.079
who worked on it brought their a game programmers, artists, designers, everyone.
2474
02:03:08.600 --> 02:03:10.600
I don't know that I have ever worked with a
2475
02:03:10.640 --> 02:03:13.600
team that cared more about making sure the end product
2476
02:03:13.640 --> 02:03:16.720
was perfect. It was a dream come true. Wonder Woman
2477
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:19.600
had a dream team and they put their all into it.
2478
02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:22.239
They made sure it had wonder Woman and DC lore
2479
02:03:22.319 --> 02:03:24.520
on every aspect. Of the game. It was a thrill
2480
02:03:24.600 --> 02:03:26.680
and honor to work with them. I know there's a
2481
02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:29.079
lot of finger pointing going on, but everyone I worked
2482
02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:33.359
with for Monolith and WB both was enthusiastic and supportive.
2483
02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:37.880
Everyone wanted to make the best game ever. So that's
2484
02:03:37.960 --> 02:03:40.960
kind of sad, Yes, I mean, what was that least
2485
02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:45.000
with has to be like Zaslav just killing things.
2486
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.239
I mean, yeah, but in this case, too little, too late,
2487
02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:49.319
even if it was that good.
2488
02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:51.720
Well, I mean, in the returns of the earlier things,
2489
02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:55.600
I mean there was kind of there's like, oh, well,
2490
02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:57.840
you know, WB isn't really doing a lot in the
2491
02:03:57.840 --> 02:04:02.520
game space, and Multi Versus was a multi year project
2492
02:04:02.640 --> 02:04:04.079
and then they went away for a while and everybody
2493
02:04:04.119 --> 02:04:05.680
kind of forgot about it, and it sounds like they
2494
02:04:05.680 --> 02:04:10.199
had other problems. Suicide Squad was a massive, I mean
2495
02:04:10.319 --> 02:04:14.479
deep failure, deep failure, a deep failure. That was also
2496
02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:19.600
like we that took forever. We They announced that at
2497
02:04:19.600 --> 02:04:23.319
the first FanDome, Yeah, and it took forever to come out,
2498
02:04:23.359 --> 02:04:26.560
and once it came out, it was utter shit. Yeah.
2499
02:04:26.600 --> 02:04:29.640
So you know, the graphics look worse.
2500
02:04:29.479 --> 02:04:32.880
Than did Gotham Night. Was that them as well?
2501
02:04:33.159 --> 02:04:34.319
Yeah, that didn't do well either.
2502
02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:36.600
Was that the same maker? Was that Montreal as well?
2503
02:04:37.319 --> 02:04:41.159
Maybe I can't remember. The Gotham Night didn't do well,
2504
02:04:41.760 --> 02:04:42.159
it did not.
2505
02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:44.359
I did not finish that one, and.
2506
02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:46.880
I don't know.
2507
02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:51.199
I tried, but it just kind of is painful to play.
2508
02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:54.520
Yeah, and when you go online there's still people like posting,
2509
02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:59.439
you know, comparison shots from not even the remastered Arkham City,
2510
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:02.159
the original Arkham City. I've just been like, look at
2511
02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:05.159
how much better the fucking graphics are here than they
2512
02:05:05.159 --> 02:05:06.199
are on Suicide Squad.
2513
02:05:07.039 --> 02:05:09.680
Like it's yeah, wa games Montreal?
2514
02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:14.720
Yeah, I mean so whatever, I mean, it.
2515
02:05:14.359 --> 02:05:16.239
Could just be that that's what it is. They did
2516
02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:18.680
bank a ton on those two games. I mean there
2517
02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:22.119
was a god the gameplay trailers alone must have cost
2518
02:05:22.640 --> 02:05:26.079
six figures each. But it just didn't get anywhere. Man,
2519
02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:27.920
I forgot they even made it out of the door.
2520
02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:32.479
And then the reviews were so bad that it was
2521
02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:33.039
a rough time.
2522
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:42.319
M all right. So with Superman coming uh six months
2523
02:05:42.319 --> 02:05:46.399
into the second Trump administration, Gun was asked about what
2524
02:05:46.560 --> 02:05:49.399
his version of Superman is right, or if if his
2525
02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:53.000
version of Superman is right for the current cultural moment.
2526
02:05:54.239 --> 02:05:57.319
Gun says, in some ways I would say it's the
2527
02:05:57.399 --> 02:05:59.640
right Superman because I don't think he's a part of
2528
02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:02.520
the cult moment. He's a character that stands for something
2529
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:06.560
that is solid, for basic human morals, basic human integrity,
2530
02:06:06.960 --> 02:06:10.720
the basic belief in protecting others the week and being
2531
02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:12.880
good to people and being honest. He stands for what
2532
02:06:12.920 --> 02:06:16.960
I think of as the rules that don't change. And
2533
02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:21.439
another reporter brought up how skittish studios have become around
2534
02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:26.279
answering questions about diversity, equity, and inclusion in the wake
2535
02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:29.439
of Trump's relentless campaign to rid not just the federal
2536
02:06:29.520 --> 02:06:33.479
government but of American public life, of DEI initiatives specifically,
2537
02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:36.520
and women and people of color and positions of power generally.
2538
02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:39.800
It was a natural question to ask, but a precarious
2539
02:06:39.800 --> 02:06:42.920
one given how many public comments defending diversity could be
2540
02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:46.359
commandeered by Trump supporters to derail the Superman marketing campaign
2541
02:06:46.800 --> 02:06:50.399
even before it started. Gun's response proposed a different strategy,
2542
02:06:50.439 --> 02:06:53.520
plead ignorance. He says, I know what you're saying. I
2543
02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:56.680
understand your words. But I've been off working on stories
2544
02:06:56.680 --> 02:06:58.920
for three years and I just try to tell the
2545
02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:01.640
best stories I possibly can, and that's all I care about.
2546
02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:04.119
He says, he doesn't read the news anymore or spend
2547
02:07:04.199 --> 02:07:06.479
nearly as much time on social media as he used to,
2548
02:07:07.159 --> 02:07:10.119
in part for his own mental health. Been there do that,
2549
02:07:10.760 --> 02:07:14.359
but mostly because running a studio while also working directly
2550
02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:16.119
on The Superman and peace Maker means he does not
2551
02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:18.560
have time. He says. We're just off trying to make
2552
02:07:18.560 --> 02:07:20.600
the best movies we can and the best way we can.
2553
02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:23.520
No matter who is telling me who I'm supposed to
2554
02:07:23.560 --> 02:07:25.840
put in my movie for whatever reason, I don't give
2555
02:07:25.880 --> 02:07:28.640
a shit. I was always about creating the best story
2556
02:07:28.720 --> 02:07:31.720
possible with the best characters possible. It was that way,
2557
02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:34.479
you know, five years ago, and it's that way today.
2558
02:07:35.359 --> 02:07:38.720
So I haven't seen anyone talk about that. Well.
2559
02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:41.359
I mean, I do like to worry phrase that. I
2560
02:07:41.399 --> 02:07:44.960
know what you mean with those words. I'm not really
2561
02:07:45.039 --> 02:07:46.800
going to answer you that way, though.
2562
02:07:48.239 --> 02:07:49.680
I'm gonna put whoever I want in there. I don't
2563
02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:52.920
give a shit. Yeah, I'm gonna do whatever I want.
2564
02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:55.439
All right, we do. We do have some feedback. That
2565
02:07:55.479 --> 02:07:57.960
was the last of the news, by the way, shit right,
2566
02:07:59.119 --> 02:08:03.680
So we have some feedback. Jake at Buster Beyond says,
2567
02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:05.479
what is your view on the lack of Wonder Woman.
2568
02:08:06.039 --> 02:08:08.319
My view is that we don't even know all of
2569
02:08:08.399 --> 02:08:10.920
chapter one yet, so I think some are overreacting and
2570
02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:13.319
need to be patient. But given she's a member of
2571
02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:16.359
the Trinity, do you think we've we should have had
2572
02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:20.800
something more with regards to her at this stage? Oh, Jake,
2573
02:08:20.920 --> 02:08:21.600
thank you man.
2574
02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:25.000
Look well, put on the need to be patient part.
2575
02:08:25.399 --> 02:08:27.439
They do need to be patient. The thing is, the
2576
02:08:27.520 --> 02:08:31.840
reason they need to be patient is because the last
2577
02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:36.279
three outings we've gotten from Wonder Woman have flopped. Wonder
2578
02:08:36.319 --> 02:08:38.760
Woman eighty four did not was not well received. I
2579
02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:42.680
don't think it flopped properly, but it wasn't well received critically.
2580
02:08:43.720 --> 02:08:45.359
And then she showed up in Shazam Fury of the
2581
02:08:45.399 --> 02:08:49.399
Gods briefly and everyone said, who the fuck cares? And
2582
02:08:50.560 --> 02:08:53.199
and let that film die on the vine. Yeah, And
2583
02:08:53.720 --> 02:08:56.760
she showed up in Flash and everyone absolutely said, who
2584
02:08:56.760 --> 02:09:00.319
fucking cares about that? And let that film down the vine.
2585
02:09:00.479 --> 02:09:03.840
I think it's time. Yeah. I think it's just like
2586
02:09:04.159 --> 02:09:07.600
Gun said, we've been given where we're leaving Flash alone
2587
02:09:07.640 --> 02:09:09.319
for a minute, we gotta leave Wonder Woman alone for
2588
02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:10.359
a minute. Yeah.
2589
02:09:11.279 --> 02:09:13.399
I get the point, though, it's one of the Big Three,
2590
02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:15.560
and at some point you got to have a plan
2591
02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:15.880
for that.
2592
02:09:16.359 --> 02:09:19.960
Yeah, the plan right now is to lay low. We
2593
02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:23.520
just saw Batman and Wonder Woman in the Flash and
2594
02:09:23.560 --> 02:09:25.399
they were not at their best.
2595
02:09:25.800 --> 02:09:28.560
I agree. I hate putting it. I hate putting a
2596
02:09:28.640 --> 02:09:30.359
piles on it, though with no timer, I would say
2597
02:09:30.680 --> 02:09:33.079
within the next at the end of about the two
2598
02:09:33.119 --> 02:09:34.840
year mark is where I had when I would kind
2599
02:09:34.880 --> 02:09:35.960
of hope to start seeing something.
2600
02:09:36.600 --> 02:09:39.199
Yeah, and then we did just see Batman of sorts
2601
02:09:39.239 --> 02:09:41.199
and Creature Commandos.
2602
02:09:41.159 --> 02:09:43.079
So I call it twenty twenty seven. Twenty twenty seven
2603
02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:45.039
is when I would hope that I would see news
2604
02:09:45.039 --> 02:09:46.159
about that in a real way.
2605
02:09:46.479 --> 02:09:48.520
And I don't. I don't know. I feel like they're
2606
02:09:48.520 --> 02:09:51.680
still doing Paradise Lost. I feel like, you know, Fimaskira
2607
02:09:51.880 --> 02:09:54.800
is in sight. You know. It's just like I don't.
2608
02:09:55.439 --> 02:09:59.359
Here's the other thing though, because I don't know. Look,
2609
02:09:59.560 --> 02:10:02.800
I've I have like eighteen Wonder Woman action figures in
2610
02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:06.199
my in my collection. All right, I don't hate the character.
2611
02:10:06.680 --> 02:10:11.560
I just bought Wonder Woman Black and Gold, a hardcover anthology,
2612
02:10:12.079 --> 02:10:17.960
you know, book. I I I like the character, if
2613
02:10:18.520 --> 02:10:22.239
but based on what we've seen in the last few years.
2614
02:10:22.520 --> 02:10:26.279
I'm a little concerned that for the general audience, the
2615
02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:29.760
wonder Woman from like the twenty seventeen Wonder Woman was it.
2616
02:10:30.319 --> 02:10:33.199
I think I think we may have the only wonder
2617
02:10:33.199 --> 02:10:35.960
Woman story worth telling for a general audience. If I
2618
02:10:36.279 --> 02:10:39.279
you know, if I am eighty ninety years old and
2619
02:10:39.319 --> 02:10:42.359
I'm on my deathbed and we have not gotten another
2620
02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:44.560
wonder Woman thing, I am not going to be like,
2621
02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:48.239
ah shit, we never got another wonder Woman thing. I'll
2622
02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:52.560
be fine. Like I have the Linda Carter series on DVD,
2623
02:10:53.039 --> 02:10:55.760
I have the twenty seventeen movie. I'm good. Yeah, she
2624
02:10:55.880 --> 02:11:01.920
was fantastic in Justice League, the animated series. I don't know.
2625
02:11:02.319 --> 02:11:04.159
I don't know. Someone there's gonna have to be a
2626
02:11:04.239 --> 02:11:06.720
very special story, is all I'm saying. But I will
2627
02:11:06.720 --> 02:11:09.479
say this, And look, the funny thing is, people are like, oh,
2628
02:11:09.479 --> 02:11:12.039
we haven't seen any wonder Woman. You just got Seriously,
2629
02:11:12.399 --> 02:11:16.399
in Creature Commandos, it's like, Wonder Woman's like Arch fucking Nemesis.
2630
02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:19.720
You just got her. You got a little peace. I mean,
2631
02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:22.880
that's that's something Wonder Woman wasn't even there. And that's
2632
02:11:22.920 --> 02:11:26.239
the most interesting her character has been in a long time.
2633
02:11:26.279 --> 02:11:30.239
For now, true. I don't know. Well, once one woman
2634
02:11:30.279 --> 02:11:33.159
gets into the realm of magic in particular, there's a
2635
02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:36.279
huge uptake in my interest. So like the whole history
2636
02:11:36.279 --> 02:11:39.640
of Demospaire, in the God's part I hit a wall
2637
02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:42.279
with Eventually, I do like the God's part, but not
2638
02:11:42.319 --> 02:11:45.039
as much as the magic part. That part, there's a
2639
02:11:45.039 --> 02:11:46.640
few stories in there that I think I would regret
2640
02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:47.119
not seeing.
2641
02:11:47.399 --> 02:11:50.640
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm very interested to see what they
2642
02:11:50.640 --> 02:11:54.239
do and how it plays in with you know, old
2643
02:11:54.359 --> 02:11:57.000
Greek gods, and I want to see all that shit.
2644
02:11:57.079 --> 02:11:59.119
But I'm not gonna be upset if they don't get
2645
02:11:59.119 --> 02:12:02.279
there for a minute, yeah, or ever, because that's just
2646
02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:05.680
I think they're definitely going there. I mean, we literally
2647
02:12:05.680 --> 02:12:09.880
saw her crucified alongside Superman and Batman and those flash
2648
02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.439
forwards and Creature Commandos. We saw a wonder Woman on a.
2649
02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:14.479
Pipe on somebody's mind.
2650
02:12:14.600 --> 02:12:18.039
Yeah, Circe is there in Creature Commandos, Like, I don't
2651
02:12:18.119 --> 02:12:20.199
understand the lack of Wonder Woman, Like they just didn't.
2652
02:12:20.279 --> 02:12:23.119
They even brought up specifically brought up and said very
2653
02:12:23.119 --> 02:12:27.680
active development on on Paradise Loss, which is a prequel series.
2654
02:12:27.720 --> 02:12:31.079
So I think we're getting plenty of Wonder Woman coming up.
2655
02:12:32.399 --> 02:12:34.359
There's too much there not to go in for it
2656
02:12:34.399 --> 02:12:35.079
at some point too.
2657
02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:38.920
Yeah, I think so. Joshua Lee thirty two twenty three.
2658
02:12:38.960 --> 02:12:40.520
Once again, come in and thank you for the shout
2659
02:12:40.560 --> 02:12:42.359
out and reading my question. You guys rock keep up
2660
02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:45.680
the good work. Thank you again. Thank you. Lorenzo Valdez
2661
02:12:45.720 --> 02:12:48.439
over on Patreon says, as someone who is both a
2662
02:12:48.520 --> 02:12:51.880
Superman fan now he is he is responding to our
2663
02:12:52.079 --> 02:12:56.079
very callous reaction to the Shack commercial. We were both saying,
2664
02:12:56.119 --> 02:12:59.680
who the fuck cares? Who was this ford? We said
2665
02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:04.039
who the fuck is this for? We were very callous
2666
02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:04.479
about it.
2667
02:13:08.880 --> 02:13:11.800
Still like I feel like I should beforehand accept the
2668
02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:13.000
judgment of whatever's coming.
2669
02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.760
I still I know what's coming, and I still stand
2670
02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:22.479
on my hill. Lorenzo Valdez over on Patreon, We love you, Buddy,
2671
02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:25.920
says as someone who is both a Superman fan and
2672
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:29.439
a basketball fan and a defender of the Steel film.
2673
02:13:29.720 --> 02:13:34.039
Something I unfortunately cannot say about the Constantine film. Ooh ooh,
2674
02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:37.520
why do you? Why do you want to discredit yourself? Bud?
2675
02:13:38.119 --> 02:13:43.000
It's like Jesus anyway, Hey, I can tell you that
2676
02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:46.279
I felt like that that promotion with James Gunn, David
2677
02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:48.600
Corn Sweat and Shaq was for me.
2678
02:13:49.319 --> 02:13:52.319
I agree, but that is a weird Vinn diagram.
2679
02:13:51.960 --> 02:13:53.960
Dude, it is it is.
2680
02:13:54.520 --> 02:13:57.279
I have to say I am thoroughly pleased that that
2681
02:13:57.399 --> 02:14:02.159
hits so hard for exactly that person. That that is amazing, Like, yeah,
2682
02:14:02.680 --> 02:14:05.079
like to love those things and see that must be
2683
02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:06.000
just phenomenal.
2684
02:14:06.319 --> 02:14:08.920
I know, I don't care anything about basketball.
2685
02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:11.479
I used to enjoy playing it a little bit.
2686
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:12.119
But I did too.
2687
02:14:12.239 --> 02:14:12.960
I can't watch it.
2688
02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:14.239
I play a little horse.
2689
02:14:14.960 --> 02:14:17.279
Yeah I could still probably, I could still probably get
2690
02:14:17.279 --> 02:14:19.880
a couple of hook shots in or seven. I don't
2691
02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:22.039
it's not the watching. I can watch it on mute. Okay,
2692
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:26.039
the squeaky noises kill me. I can't do that. I
2693
02:14:26.079 --> 02:14:26.840
have to have it muted.
2694
02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:31.640
Yeah. Look, let's be fair. I've seen space Jam more
2695
02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:34.880
than twice. Yeah, that's about where it ends.
2696
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:39.840
Yeah, stuck in an airbud one time. I'm just full
2697
02:14:39.920 --> 02:14:41.479
trip fild trip. But that's about it.
2698
02:14:44.359 --> 02:14:46.119
I sna get an air bud.
2699
02:14:50.520 --> 02:14:51.279
That's where it ends.
2700
02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:57.000
Oh god, I never went back for the sequels though.
2701
02:14:56.920 --> 02:15:00.119
Huh, yeah, man, you don't have enough time for the
2702
02:15:00.119 --> 02:15:05.399
air Bud sequels. Fucking quarter rounds of buds at this point.
2703
02:15:06.000 --> 02:15:08.239
Hello, I've seen I've seen Space Jam a few times.
2704
02:15:08.560 --> 02:15:13.159
I have toyed Toyd uh with watching that Woody Harrelson
2705
02:15:13.199 --> 02:15:16.359
basketball movie I Don't Even Jump? Is that what it's called.
2706
02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:19.119
I don't remember from the like from the early nineties. Yeah,
2707
02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:21.279
I must be one Wesley.
2708
02:15:21.840 --> 02:15:23.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have toyed.
2709
02:15:24.760 --> 02:15:27.640
I remember thinking it was funny in the early nineties. Well,
2710
02:15:27.720 --> 02:15:30.520
you know, I would like to see that one again. Probably.
2711
02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:33.640
It's one of those where, like I'm I never cared
2712
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:37.880
about sports, but like, yeah, the title was such a
2713
02:15:37.880 --> 02:15:41.640
cultural thing. It was such a touchstone everyone that was
2714
02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:43.279
making white men can't jump jokes.
2715
02:15:43.479 --> 02:15:46.199
Mm hm, it was. It took over for a minute.
2716
02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:48.199
I feel like I need to go back and watch
2717
02:15:48.199 --> 02:15:50.680
it just to understand a little bit of where I
2718
02:15:50.760 --> 02:15:54.960
came from. Yeah, yeah, even if I wasn't actively involved
2719
02:15:55.520 --> 02:16:01.680
at the time. All right, so uh uh, Lorenzo continues
2720
02:16:02.359 --> 02:16:03.319
your penis tangent.
2721
02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:08.199
I'm sorry tired of being accused of penis tangents?
2722
02:16:12.640 --> 02:16:13.119
Are you.
2723
02:16:21.119 --> 02:16:23.079
Not even a little? We've barely exhausted it.
2724
02:16:23.880 --> 02:16:26.840
Speak for yourself. I exhaust mine all the time. I'm
2725
02:16:26.880 --> 02:16:28.600
always exhausted. That penis tangent.
2726
02:16:29.960 --> 02:16:33.360
Oh, go ahead and nominate that one for my grave
2727
02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:35.719
if if you get the opportunity. M hmm.
2728
02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:38.879
By the way, penis tangent sounds like a great name
2729
02:16:39.479 --> 02:16:41.200
for skin tags on your dick.
2730
02:16:41.719 --> 02:16:43.360
Yeah it does.
2731
02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:51.360
Anyway, Your penis tangent at the end of episode seven
2732
02:16:51.440 --> 02:16:57.159
forty six reminded me of an exhibit I know that
2733
02:16:57.200 --> 02:17:01.200
way right. The penis tan at the end of episode
2734
02:17:01.239 --> 02:17:04.360
seven forty six reminds me of an old Family Guy
2735
02:17:04.440 --> 02:17:08.319
episode that I have no more than a vague recollection of,
2736
02:17:08.760 --> 02:17:11.920
in which part of the plot revolves around a police
2737
02:17:11.959 --> 02:17:15.479
squadron enforcing the number of shakes allowed at the journal,
2738
02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:18.879
with the notion that too many shakes could be construed
2739
02:17:19.360 --> 02:17:21.079
as masturbation. Yeah.
2740
02:17:21.360 --> 02:17:26.239
Yeah, my dad went slayd with that joke and the
2741
02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:28.600
shake it more than twice. You're playing with it? Mm
2742
02:17:28.639 --> 02:17:33.680
hm oh it really kills been here for the first time.
2743
02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:35.920
Do you remember what our penis tangent was?
2744
02:17:36.120 --> 02:17:37.840
Not a clue?
2745
02:17:38.000 --> 02:17:40.079
I have no idea, no idea.
2746
02:17:39.840 --> 02:17:42.079
We do something now. I am sad and wish I
2747
02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:44.959
could respond worth early and we should. We should homework
2748
02:17:44.959 --> 02:17:45.639
that one and come.
2749
02:17:45.520 --> 02:17:52.079
Back maybe maybe anyway, thank you, thank you, Lorenzo, Yes,
2750
02:17:52.120 --> 02:17:56.520
thank you. Eli Hernandez over on Patreon says, hey, Neig Borrinos.
2751
02:17:57.280 --> 02:18:01.120
Since Marvel has Howard the Duck, do you think James
2752
02:18:01.200 --> 02:18:03.600
Gunn would be willing to give us the film debut
2753
02:18:03.680 --> 02:18:04.639
of Detective Chimp?
2754
02:18:05.079 --> 02:18:05.719
Gotta be great.
2755
02:18:06.079 --> 02:18:08.079
He put him, he can put him in an episode
2756
02:18:08.120 --> 02:18:11.120
of Peacemaker. I can really see Daniel Craig voicing him,
2757
02:18:11.879 --> 02:18:15.479
Daniel Creation. What do you guys think? Uh? Whatever?
2758
02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:19.559
I would absolutely love a Detective Jump and I think
2759
02:18:19.639 --> 02:18:20.879
James Gunn would as well.
2760
02:18:21.399 --> 02:18:24.559
I think he would, you know, I I think you
2761
02:18:24.600 --> 02:18:27.159
know Kelsey Grammer is coming back us beast over in
2762
02:18:27.239 --> 02:18:30.239
the Marvel films. Can we get David Hydepiers to be
2763
02:18:30.440 --> 02:18:31.200
Detective Jimp?
2764
02:18:32.920 --> 02:18:34.760
I wouldn't say that doesn't sound right, but I'm imagining
2765
02:18:34.840 --> 02:18:39.959
David hyd Peerson is probably mid thirties. Uh huh, so
2766
02:18:40.680 --> 02:18:42.479
I haven't heard him in quite some time. That might
2767
02:18:42.520 --> 02:18:43.040
be a good fit.
2768
02:18:43.120 --> 02:18:46.239
Now, yeah, it might not work. I don't know. You
2769
02:18:46.319 --> 02:18:49.319
might want to, you might want want like a more
2770
02:18:49.319 --> 02:18:50.920
of a bass, any kind of thing. I don't know.
2771
02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:54.040
I don't know what he would sound like. A British
2772
02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:54.879
for some reason.
2773
02:18:55.000 --> 02:18:59.280
I mean, I just want him to be just like
2774
02:18:59.760 --> 02:19:02.520
I'm mean, I'm just thinking, like, I don't know. I've
2775
02:19:02.520 --> 02:19:04.680
seen him written different ways though.
2776
02:19:04.479 --> 02:19:07.879
So I think he's just a middle aged drunk dude and.
2777
02:19:07.760 --> 02:19:10.079
In a lot of ways maybe.
2778
02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:13.440
I mean, he's definitely an alcoholic in the Justice League
2779
02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:20.479
Dark series. Yeah, it's a primary plot point her a
2780
02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:24.680
second one. Well can happily live with though with him though,
2781
02:19:24.680 --> 02:19:26.920
But yeah, I have no idea what actual compared to
2782
02:19:26.959 --> 02:19:29.719
demographic we got for this little lucky.
2783
02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:34.520
Yeah, let's see, dude, dude, he's a common chimpanzee who
2784
02:19:34.559 --> 02:19:38.520
wears a deer stalker cap. We know that Detective Chimp
2785
02:19:38.760 --> 02:19:42.719
has superhuman level intelligence, softs crimes, blah blah blah blah
2786
02:19:42.760 --> 02:19:44.319
bluh uh huh.
2787
02:19:44.360 --> 02:19:46.159
I love how you like get to the interesting part.
2788
02:19:46.440 --> 02:19:49.399
That's what I'm trying to find. Man. It says like
2789
02:19:49.799 --> 02:19:53.360
he was from equatorial Africa, But I don't know if, like,
2790
02:19:53.959 --> 02:19:56.479
what was his backstory? Was he just like a dude?
2791
02:19:56.680 --> 02:19:58.959
Was he was it a magic thing? Was he like
2792
02:19:59.159 --> 02:20:01.280
a dude stuck at side of a monkey? Was?
2793
02:20:01.920 --> 02:20:04.879
I do not remember the origin story situation there. I'd
2794
02:20:04.920 --> 02:20:07.120
have to slip out the Encyclopedia.
2795
02:20:07.280 --> 02:20:10.600
When first introduced, Detective Chimp was an ordinary, though intelligent,
2796
02:20:10.840 --> 02:20:14.440
trained chipanzee who acted as a helping mascot for the
2797
02:20:14.479 --> 02:20:17.239
local sheriff after helping him solve the murder of his
2798
02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:20.719
chimpanzee trainer, Fred Thorpe. He could not speak, but could
2799
02:20:20.760 --> 02:20:23.959
understand humans and make himself understood. Bobo, a smoker, is
2800
02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:28.000
a member of Mensa and had a long standing partnership
2801
02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:32.319
with four other detectives as the Crowatoan Society. One of
2802
02:20:32.360 --> 02:20:34.680
the other former members of the society was the detective
2803
02:20:34.719 --> 02:20:38.639
superhero Ralph Dibney. The Chimp's origin has been revamped and
2804
02:20:38.680 --> 02:20:42.639
elaborated on several times since his silver age appearances. In
2805
02:20:42.719 --> 02:20:46.120
nineteen eighty nine, Secret Origins Volume two, number forty credited
2806
02:20:46.120 --> 02:20:49.639
the experimentation of a microscopic alien race with Bobo's intelligence.
2807
02:20:50.079 --> 02:20:53.040
This origin has been retconned, notably in the Day of
2808
02:20:53.120 --> 02:20:56.239
Vengeance six part limited series, which is primarily where I
2809
02:20:56.319 --> 02:20:59.360
Know Detective Chimp from. In the latter, it was shown
2810
02:20:59.399 --> 02:21:01.879
that Bobo was captured in Gorilla City in nineteen fifty
2811
02:21:01.920 --> 02:21:04.479
three by Fred Thorpe, who sought to train him for
2812
02:21:04.520 --> 02:21:07.440
his carnival act. Bobo the Detective Chimp for the act.
2813
02:21:07.639 --> 02:21:10.639
Detective Chimp was trained to answer some detective related questions
2814
02:21:10.719 --> 02:21:14.120
using a combination of signals and rewards, giving the illusion
2815
02:21:14.120 --> 02:21:16.799
that he could quote discover the deepest secrets of the public.
2816
02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:20.200
Bobo formed a strong bond with Thorpe because Thorpe took
2817
02:21:20.200 --> 02:21:22.040
care of him and gave him a simpler life than
2818
02:21:22.079 --> 02:21:24.959
in the jungle. The success of the act lasted until
2819
02:21:24.959 --> 02:21:26.799
a trip to Florida, at which time Rex the Wonder
2820
02:21:26.840 --> 02:21:30.440
Dog took him to the Fountain of Youth. Sometimes you
2821
02:21:30.479 --> 02:21:32.760
just you read the shit, especially in Wikipedia, where you
2822
02:21:32.799 --> 02:21:35.840
just like realize how fuck it's stupid it is. Yeah, who,
2823
02:21:35.879 --> 02:21:37.719
Rex the Wonder Dog took him to the Fountain of Youth,
2824
02:21:37.760 --> 02:21:40.040
where he gained the ability to speak to all living creatures,
2825
02:21:40.079 --> 02:21:44.239
even humans, in their own language, as well as eternal youth. Okay.
2826
02:21:44.760 --> 02:21:48.600
Rex and Bobo's journey to the Fountain of Youth was
2827
02:21:48.680 --> 02:21:50.440
originally depicted in the Effort.
2828
02:21:51.120 --> 02:22:00.959
Like physically sneering at it. Now heard was the sound
2829
02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:03.840
Dave's suspension of disbelief hitting the ground.
2830
02:22:04.360 --> 02:22:07.079
I think the answer is it does not fucking matter.
2831
02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:09.639
No, we did finally get the answer at the end
2832
02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:10.200
it's magic.
2833
02:22:10.440 --> 02:22:10.719
He is.
2834
02:22:10.760 --> 02:22:13.559
He's magic and he's and he sounds like he's basically
2835
02:22:13.600 --> 02:22:16.200
just middle aged dude, right, is Aliens?
2836
02:22:16.760 --> 02:22:16.879
No?
2837
02:22:16.959 --> 02:22:21.159
Yeah, young young to middle aged dude eternally.
2838
02:22:21.079 --> 02:22:24.360
Yeah, he's got eternal youth and he's immortal.
2839
02:22:24.440 --> 02:22:26.319
So did that say Florida somewhere in there?
2840
02:22:26.639 --> 02:22:27.000
It did?
2841
02:22:27.159 --> 02:22:30.879
Okay, so he's American. Maybe presumably I would go too.
2842
02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:33.639
But if it's you know, the Fountain of Youth, it
2843
02:22:33.719 --> 02:22:34.680
might be more of a ponce.
2844
02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:38.159
It could, but they look for that in South America's
2845
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I thought.
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I thought they. I mean, I thought it was Florida.
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Maybe I'm not saying I'm right.
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I'm stupid as ship dude. George means all right, that's
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why everyone retires there now.
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But I think, you know, it's funny. Eli went with,
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02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:56.399
you know, a kind of a British sounding thing too.
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02:22:57.200 --> 02:22:59.280
Yeah, I kind of get it, just because it's a
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02:22:59.319 --> 02:23:02.000
Smartish character and that that does make you want to
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go British.
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Mmmmmmm. Eli also said that theory that Ultraman might be
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02:23:06.600 --> 02:23:09.040
Apollo is actually not a bad idea. Isn't he supposed
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to be as strong and powerful as Superman? Yeah? Yeah,
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And I don't know if it's gonna happen if the
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authority is that far behind.
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Though, well, if he said it got subsumed, so.
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02:23:18.440 --> 02:23:21.559
I mean, yeah, it got subsumed mar by certain things
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02:23:21.600 --> 02:23:23.719
they are doing in Superman as well. So I don't know.
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02:23:23.799 --> 02:23:28.559
I don't know. Uh. Brooklyn Batman asks us, my, do
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you think it would be a mistake for Gun to
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write and direct a World's Finest movie as a follow
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02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:35.399
up to Superman? Do you think it's too soon and
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we'll get trolled for supposedly copying Snyder. I don't think
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it's too soon. I think everybody wants Batman. Uh. For me,
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02:23:44.479 --> 02:23:46.000
I think most people want Batman.
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02:23:46.040 --> 02:23:47.319
Everyone's gonna say sooner the better.
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02:23:47.360 --> 02:23:50.159
And you know on that, yeah, I think you know,
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02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:52.000
the usual suspects will troll.
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02:23:52.280 --> 02:23:53.239
Cookies are out of the oven.
2874
02:23:53.559 --> 02:23:56.719
Yeah, like the Yeah, the Snyder people will definitely shot
2875
02:23:56.760 --> 02:23:59.159
on it and say that he's trying to copy those people.
2876
02:23:59.159 --> 02:24:02.280
Don't matter. I think people will be like, ah, yes,
2877
02:24:02.360 --> 02:24:05.479
but the difference is it's not a Batman versus Superman.
2878
02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:10.840
This is a proper World's Finest And yeah, it's look.
2879
02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:14.600
As a Gun supporter and a Snyder fan, I am
2880
02:24:14.639 --> 02:24:18.719
also aggravated by some of the narrative that's being spun
2881
02:24:19.120 --> 02:24:22.079
where people are like, see, this is what we were needing.
2882
02:24:22.280 --> 02:24:26.360
All well, Gun is doing this and this, and Snyder
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02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:30.159
doesn't understand. I'm like, oh, fuck, come on, Like they're
2884
02:24:30.239 --> 02:24:33.559
just like taking a lot of like liberty. Man, they're
2885
02:24:33.639 --> 02:24:36.079
just like having a hell of a time being like see,
2886
02:24:36.239 --> 02:24:39.879
this is why Snyder sucked. And I'm like, it's not. Though,
2887
02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:42.840
yeah it's not. It wasn't. You just didn't give it
2888
02:24:42.879 --> 02:24:47.639
a chance because you're dixed, you know whatever. But I
2889
02:24:47.840 --> 02:24:49.159
like all this shit. So at the end of the day,
2890
02:24:49.159 --> 02:24:55.120
I'm still the winner. Yeah, it's frustrating to watch the
2891
02:24:55.479 --> 02:24:59.360
narrative go down, but sometimes but also I'm just like, eh,
2892
02:24:59.440 --> 02:25:02.840
I like all this. I'm good. Yeah that's it man,
2893
02:25:03.280 --> 02:25:07.360
Oh my god. Right seriously, yep, we're done and I'm
2894
02:25:07.360 --> 02:25:13.000
going straight to bed. Yeah, like on the last on
2895
02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:14.879
the last piss break, I went and took my meds.
2896
02:25:15.719 --> 02:25:18.440
It's time for me go to bed soon. Yeah, get
2897
02:25:18.479 --> 02:25:22.200
this over with. No chatting after the show. Let me
2898
02:25:22.239 --> 02:25:28.319
know what it's up tomorrow. All right, thanks for listening.
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Everybody comments, I haven't done that in little while. I know, comments, questions, love, hate,
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02:25:36.280 --> 02:25:39.399
bringing our Way DC on screen at gmail dot com,
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02:25:39.639 --> 02:25:43.319
by the way, Patreon patreon dot com, slash DC on screen.
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02:25:43.319 --> 02:25:46.680
We're over there as well. We're on Facebook, we're on threads,
2903
02:25:46.719 --> 02:25:49.319
We're on Instagram, we're on Twitter. God help us. I
2904
02:25:49.319 --> 02:25:51.920
don't know why we're still there, but we are. And
2905
02:25:52.200 --> 02:25:55.399
we're on YouTube. So uh, there are plenty of places
2906
02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:58.120
for you to leave us a comment and tell us
2907
02:25:58.159 --> 02:26:01.079
that you type it, tell us that you want more
2908
02:26:01.079 --> 02:26:08.959
penis tangents and it actually hurts what or less tangents?
2909
02:26:08.959 --> 02:26:11.959
But then, yeah, we had to stop for a medical issue.
2910
02:26:12.600 --> 02:26:15.639
Look, I'm not stopping. I'll make as many penis tangents
2911
02:26:15.680 --> 02:26:18.120
as I want. You're just wasting your time if you're
2912
02:26:18.120 --> 02:26:21.319
asking for less, less of the If you're asking for less,
2913
02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:22.639
I got nothing for you.
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02:26:22.760 --> 02:26:22.920
Yeah.
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02:26:23.079 --> 02:26:27.120
Sorry, they'll come when they come. And that wasn't intended.
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02:26:27.120 --> 02:26:28.520
But that's a lot of fun.
2917
02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:31.319
The best we could offer maybe is a skip point one.
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02:26:31.280 --> 02:26:35.520
Day a right, but probably not. Love you guys, Thank
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02:26:35.520 --> 02:26:39.479
you for listening until next time, which may be a
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02:26:39.559 --> 02:26:45.680
kite Man season one review. Keep some DC on your screen, right?
2921
02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:47.440
Oh that sounded rough.
2922
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Yeah, I'm done too.