Mail In Madness

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With seven weeks until the midterm elections, the fight to
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secure how America votes has run into one wall after
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the next. And as of last night, every major effort
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to change the rules of mail-in voting before November has
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come up short. Three fronts. Here's exactly where each one stands.
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Front one, the courts. And the biggest case of them all,
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you might recall, on June 29th of this year, the
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Supreme Court decided Watson versus the RNC a case. The
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Republican National Committee had fought for two years arguing that
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mail-in ballots must be received by Election Day, not just
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postmarked by it. Common sense, right? The RNC lost five
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to four. The court ruled states can keep counting ballots
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that arrive after Election Day as long as they're postmarked
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on time. Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote for the majority,
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joined by Chief Justice Roberts and the three liberal justices.
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Of course.
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Thomas Alito and Gorsuch dissented. Those were the heroes in
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this case. And so the roughly 15 states with grace
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periods that let them keep counting until whenever the result
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comes in, well, that stands. Now, here's front two. The
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president's executive order. Trump had ordered the Postal Service to
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overhaul mail ballots, barcodes on every envelope, verify voter list
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ballots going only to confirmed eligible voters. On August 24th,
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the court gave him a preliminary win. Things were looking up. No, no, no.
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Last night, it reversed course for this cycle, leaving a
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lower court block in place, 6-3, with only Thomas and
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Alito dissenting. Now, the reason given was timing. They said
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there wasn't enough time for states to comply before November,
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and the president's reaction, well, he's pretty ticked off, let's
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just say that. In a statement on Truth Social, he
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blasted the court directly, saying... Republicans just got another bad
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decision from the United States Supreme Court. He blamed it
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in part on no time left to implement a solution
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to our totally corrupt and out-of-control mail-in voting disaster. Justices
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Alito and Thomas, legends, both strongly disagreed with this horrible,
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highly political ruling. It is as big of a loss
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for Republicans and America itself, and it makes cheating by
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the radical left, Democrats, on mail-in ballots a much easier
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thing to do. These are not the people I interviewed
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to serve on the United States Supreme Court. The boss
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is not happy. That brings us to the third front,
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the one that could still fix all of this, but
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it ain't gonna, the Save America Act. You know, the
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one that would have required proof of citizenship to register
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and photo ID to vote and also some mail-in ballot reform.
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It's passed the House like five times. Sits there in
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the Senate, dead, gathering dust, leaving that analogy alone every
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time it goes to the Senate, short of the 60
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votes to break a filibuster. And there is no sign.
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That is going to change anytime soon. So here's where
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things stand tonight. The RNCs, that case is lost. The
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executive order, blocked for this cycle at least. The Save
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America Act, stalled hopelessly. Which means November's midterms, the elections
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that decide control of Congress, will run under essentially the
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same mail-in rules as before. Not one of the changes changed.
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made it across the finish line. That's not good. Now,
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to break down where this actually leaves us seven weeks out,
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let's bring in Josh Hammer, senior counsel with the Article
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3 Project. Josh, welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time.
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It just seems no matter where you turn, roadblock, roadblock, roadblock, hopelessness, hopelessness,
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and the president's right to be mad. We have to
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secure the mail-in vote. It's really the highest risk we
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have and the biggest opportunity we have for fraudsters, right?
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You know, David, in the first few months of this
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second Trump administration, I and my colleagues at the Oracle
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3 Project, we were talking about the judicial insurrection was
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a term that we used a lot of a little
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over a year ago. And I now have to openly speculate,
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you know, now here we are. Donald Trump's second term
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is hard to believe. It's almost halfway through, not quite,
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but we're getting close to it. I have to ask
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whether or not the judicial insurrection has ever been quashed,
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whether it has ever been taken care of, whether it
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is still acting up right before our very own eyes.
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And to make matters worse, as you correctly note, when
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it came to the Watson versus RNC case, the mail-in
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ballot case at the Supreme Court, a tremendous disappointment, a massive,
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massive letdown earlier this year. Sometimes the judicial insurrection seems
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to be happening not just in the lower courts, but
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actually also at the U.S.
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Supreme Court.
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Frankly, from some of Donald Trump's own nominees, like Amy
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Coney Barrett, who continues to to have a, shall we say,
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checkered or spotty track record. Sam Lito or Clarence Thomas,
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she is not. Now, listen, David, if I'm being honest here,
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I have heard from some conservatives in the states, some
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Republican officials and various state attorneys general offices, saying that
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they also were skeptical that their own state, these are
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red states, had enough time to prepare for the U.S.
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Postal Service regulation. Here's my response to that. That may
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or may not be true. It'll depend on the state.
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But here's the thing. The thing is that the Article
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2 executive branch, the president and all of the cabinets,
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the agencies, they can make rules when something is within
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their legitimate jurisdiction. And last I checked, Article 1 of
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the Constitution made very clear The federal government has the
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ability to control the procedures and times and all the
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various other nonsense and proceduralities when it comes to federal elections.
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So this USPS rule, to me, fell squarely within that,
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which is why you had people like Clarence Thompson, Sam Molino,
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yet again, crying foul. But it's where we're at, and
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it's where we're at. And as you correctly note, there
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is a panacea out there. It's called the Safe America Act.
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I saw Mike Johnson, the speaker, just talking about it
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yet again. Over the weekend, I'm not entirely sure that
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John Thune's calculus on that question has changed, but if
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there's going to be a hero, a knight in shining armor,
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so to speak, David, I suspect that it would be
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that to save America at this late juncture.
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Yeah, I mean, that's what we're all hoping for, but
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it's hopeless to hope for it, honestly, because nobody's going
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to expect anything to change this close. I mean, we've
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been fighting this thing for months, and I hate that
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that's the reality. I hate that I'm sitting here saying, yeah,
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I guess we just have to just deal with it.
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It stinks. But I want to go back to what
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you talked about, the judicial insurrection, because it's such an
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important point. And I want to get back to it because...
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Even though there's this divide in MAGA and people are
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suggesting that President Trump hasn't done what he promised to
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do and there's people saying he should indict more people
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and all these things that they keep laying at his feet,
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all this blame, this judicial insurrection you talk about has
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consistently blocked Trump from doing a lot of the things
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that he's intended on doing, whether it's accountability for some
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of these folks under Crossfire Hurricane or the Russian collusion,
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all of these things. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
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I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. YOU KEEP MEETING JUDGES
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AND PEOPLE SAYING THESE ARE REPUBLICAN JUDGES OR EVEN TRUMP
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APPOINTED JUDGES IN THE CASE OF SOME OF THESE JUSTICES.
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BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL THIS ANTI-TRUMP ESTABLISHMENT
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OUT THERE ON OUR OWN SIDE THAT HAS LIKE, AND
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MAYBE I'M SEEING THIS WRONG, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY
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HAVE BLOCKED THE PRESIDENT JUST AS SUCCESSFULLY AS THE LEFT
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HAS DONE IT AND IT'S SO FRUSTRATING FOR ME TO SEE.
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AM I WRONG? AM I SEEING THIS INCORRECTLY?
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So even on the lawfare, on the indictments, as you
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correctly point out, we did see the tossing out of
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the indictments of people like James Comey, people like Tish James,
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attorney general of New York State. So the president has
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had virtually the entirety of his agenda, everything from immigration
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to tariffs to lawfare and beyond. He has had it stopped.
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by lower courts and, indeed, the Supreme Court. And, yes,
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it is true that the least dangerous branch, Article 3,
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does have the power to serve as a check on
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Article 1 of the Congress and Article 2 of the
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executive branch. It is also true that Donald Trump has
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been the victim of more so-called nationwide universal injunctions and
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various other similar procedural rulings. than all the other presidents
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in American history combined. That is just a fact. You
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can look it up.
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There are people who track this.
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And that's not just calling balls and strikes, to paraphrase
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John Roberts back at the 2005 Senate confirmation hearing. That
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is putting an ideological thumb on the scales of Trump.
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had to fight back against that. Listen, there's also the
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longer-term question of judicial nominees. Now, Donald Trump's lower court
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picks in both his first term and his second term
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have been invariably phenomenal. There are very, very, very few
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Trump picks in the lower courts that I can identify
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and say that was a miss.
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There are a handful.
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It's really neither here nor there. Overwhelming success when it
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comes to lower courts.
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When it comes to the question of the U.S.
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Supreme Court, look, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett are just
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not Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito.
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They're just not.
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Kavanaugh, I tend to prefer slightly to Barrett, but really
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neither is batting at a high enough average. So there
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are some things that we're still not getting right when
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it comes to the absolute highest level of judicial nominations.
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I thought there was a real chance that Sam Alito
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might resign this break. He clearly has decided not to
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do so. So we'll see if Donald Trump gets an
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opportunity to nominate another justice to the high court. At
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this point, it's entirely possible, frankly, that he doesn't. But
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that will be another area to potentially try to remedy
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the ship of this judicial insurrection if we get that opportunity.
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Yeah.
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You know, I try not to sit back in the
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realm of sort of partisan, conspiracy and be like, oh,
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everybody is just, you know, it's just all against Trump.
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But man, like you said, you see this happening and
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you're so frustrated because Barack Obama was basically able to
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do whatever he wanted to do with his bench. And
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then you get Donald Trump and it's like every opportunity,
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like you said, national injunctions, the Supreme Court handing down
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decisions that make us go, what? The dissents making a
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lot more sense than the majority opinions. The three liberal
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justices consistently holding to their ideology when the conservative justices
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keep breaking from it. It's very frustrating to me. It's
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frustrating to a lot of American people. And at the
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end of the day, this isn't about Trump. This isn't
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about politics. This is about securing American elections. And like
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you said, Trump has the ability to make rules in
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his own executive branch. And it's not up to the
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Supreme Court to decide what the states can and can't
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do within reason. And so I don't think this makes
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a lot of sense. But look, we'll keep fighting. Josh Hammer,
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great takes as always. Thank you so much for being here.
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Always a pleasure, David. Thank you.
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Thank you. For three months, one of the most powerful
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men in the United States Senate. just kind of vanished.
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No one would say where he was, how's he doing.
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We had a couple of proof of life pictures. It
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led to some wild speculation with whether or not he
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was even still alive in some instances. But yesterday, yesterday,
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he showed up to vote. He's resurfacing. But there's still
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a lot more questions, and the story is far from over.
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We're discussing all of that right after the break.
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Last night, we asked a pretty simple question, kind of
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a ridiculous question. Where's Mitch McConnell? Will he be seen today?
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For nearly three months, the former leader of the Senate,
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he's probably one of them, at least was one of
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the most powerful men in Washington. He vanished from public
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view after a medical incident. He's calling it a fall. Now,
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he hasn't cast a vote since June. His office went
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completely silent, except for those two proof-of-life pictures he got,
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one with the newspaper. It was really odd. Now, tonight,
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we have an answer about Mitch McConnell's health. He appears
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to be back, ending all the speculation about Mitch McConnell.
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He was wheeled onto the House floor of the United
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States Senate. And he cast his first vote in 90 days. Now,
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in a Senate this closely divided, his vote was the
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deciding one, 47 to 46, to advance another one of
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President Trump's judicial nominees. That's a win. Can't get upset
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with the man for that. In a statement, McConnell's office
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said his recovery has been, quote, well, they say he
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said it, a long and often frustrating process made harder
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by the lingering effects of childhood polio that he survived
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decades ago. He admitted he's, in his words, still not
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quite back to 100%. He told his colleagues he intends
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to be there for the tough votes when his conference
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needs him. And to reporters waiting for him, he put
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it plainly, time to get back to work. Finished a
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job for this Congress. So the mystery's solved. That's it.
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He's alive. He's working, sort of. And the wild speculation
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that filled the vacuum these past three months can finally
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be put to rest, right? Well, sort of, because the
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bigger question remains, how is his cognition? How is his health?
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Is simply being able to show up to vote smiling?
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Being propped up by the people who hold power just
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for the sake of the institution? Is that the principle
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this republic was founded on? The American people have every
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right to still ask these questions about the age, health,
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and fitness of the people who hold power over our lives.
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That's not being insensitive. It's accountability. Now, let's talk about
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where this story goes next here with Reaction Social Media Influencer.
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Greg is fire. Welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time.
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This story is the weirdest story. It is the weirdest
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story because we were doing yesterday, we were like watching
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a reporter staked out in front of his house. Real
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question about whether or not he would show up. He did.
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People are questioning whether or not he was alive. I mean,
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that's how crazy this story became. They weren't even sure
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what the status was of a U.S.
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Senator.
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And all we had was two stills. The weirdest thing ever.
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So now he's back. But, Greg, this doesn't put to
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rest the concern over, you know, the aging representatives of
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in Washington without term limits and whether they're representing the
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interests of their constituents, right?
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Yeah, we need term limits. I'm pretty sure Trump backs
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term limits too. I'm sure it's the senators who know
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they've made a fortune and they'll stay in there for
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as long as it takes. Look at McConnell, barely hanging on,
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but his wife's probably like, hey, look, you're cashing checks, honey.
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Let's just make it happen. He talks to him and
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he's sitting there and he's probably not even making a
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noise or a peep. I was surprised to see him
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come out of the vehicle this morning. Now, apparently he
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took a vote yesterday. Is that right?
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Today too.
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He did take a vote.
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Well, he was there to take a vote, but they
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couldn't get cloture. So he didn't have to vote, but yeah,
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he took a vote yesterday. Actually he was deciding vote.
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So he's voting.
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He's voting.
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He's voting.
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I mean, that's, that's a good step. I think at
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this point, I think I heard that he missed 61
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roll calls.
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Over this time. I mean, and look, the money they're making,
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the net worths, it's unbelievable. I don't care if you're
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Republican or Democrat. We should want reform. We should want
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term limits. We should want people to come in, do
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the job, get out. They're getting too comfortable. There's nothing
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to stop them.
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They don't care anymore.
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They don't show up half the time anyways. Even if
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Mitch McConnell was healthy, you look at some of the
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senators who don't even show up for a lot of
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the votes.
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Yeah, and look, it is not a knock on the man.
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I'm glad that he's alive and healthy-ish. Honestly, I am.
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I mean, we don't ever wish anyone harm, and he's
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been a good Republican for a lot of part of
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his career. Now, lately, there's been some beef with Donald Trump.
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He hasn't backed the Save America Act. That's very frustrating.
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But that being said, nobody's wishing him harm. Nobody's wishing
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anything ill-will towards him. But the fact remains, that seat
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doesn't belong to him. And you mentioned... IT'S A PAYCHECK
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FOR HIM. I DON'T THINK IT'S A PAYCHECK FOR HIM.
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I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM.
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IT'S THE INFLUENCE THAT THEY'RE WILLING AROUND. IT'S THE POWER
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THAT THEY'RE WILLING AROUND. IT'S THE JOBS OF HIS STAFF
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THAT THEY'RE WILLING AROUND. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OBLIGATIONS. I
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DON'T THINK THE MITCH MCCONNELL THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO THE
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FLOOR TO VOTE IS THE MITCH MCCONNELL THAT HIS VOTERS ELECTED.
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I THINK IT'S THE MITCH MCCONNELL. THAT'S WHAT HE'S THERE
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TO SERVE. HE'S THERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT SORT
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OF ORBIT HIM, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT
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SERVING THE PEOPLE BECAUSE HOW CAN ANYBODY ARGUE THAT HE
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IS ADVOCATING FOR THE PEOPLE OF HIS DISTRICT? AT THIS
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POINT HE'S NOT. I CAN'T IMAGINE HE IS, RIGHT?
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YEAH, I KNOW.
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK REALLY HE KNOWS WHAT'S
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GOING ON. IT'S LIKE A JOE BIDEN TYPE OF THING
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GOING ON. EVEN WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS IN, THE DIFFERENCE
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BETWEEN THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT HAS ALWAYS We weren't
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going around saying, oh, I hope this is it for
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Joe Biden. You know, I remember a lot of my
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friends going, oh, wow, this is crazy. Like we felt
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so bad that he was put in that position and
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we knew he was just carrying out his duties. Like
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you're saying, like Mitch McConnell, everyone around him just saying,
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keep the ship going, keep the Democrats in power. I
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feel like the same thing's happening with Mitch McConnell. You've
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had that seat for so long. They're afraid to lose
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that to a Democrat or at least afraid to lose
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that to somebody that they don't know, shake hands with
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backstage and know the game with. The game gets rigged
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by these people that are in for so long. So
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that's why I think Mitch McConnell is no longer doing
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the votes that we want. Like, we're not happy with
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a lot of these, you know, what do you call it?
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Establishment Republicans that just sit in an office. They make
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such good friendships. They no longer have to really, you know, fight.
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They don't have to do anything. They're just like, hey,
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it's more important for them to sit back and go, yeah,
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I can help you, buddy. I can help you, buddy.
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more so than the actual people. And I'm sick of it,
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to be honest with you.
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Well, yeah, and I think that that's consistent with what
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a lot of people feel. And it's not his. They
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could have given that seat. They could have had an
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election and put somebody in place that could have actively...
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REPRESENTED THE VOTERS OF KENTUCKY, AND THAT'S WHAT IT BALLS
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DOWN TO. THAT SEAT DOES NOT BELONG. NONE OF THESE
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SEATS BELONG TO THE POLITICIAN. THEY BELONG TO THE PEOPLE.
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AND THESE ENTIRE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT THEY BUILD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE
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FOR ANYBODY TO CHALLENGE THEM, ESPECIALLY SENIOR LEADERSHIP LIKE MITCH MCCONNELL.
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YOU CAN'T BEAT MITCH MCCONNELL. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY
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COMES IN HIS CAMPAIGNS FROM EVERYWHERE? BECAUSE HE IS, LIKE
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YOU SAID, A PROVEN COMMODITY, A PROVEN VOTE. HE SHAKES
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HANDS WITH PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO FIX.
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THAT'S WHY PEOPLE FEEL FRUSTRATED. And, you know, we need
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certain votes to back the president, especially with Save America. Look,
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I'm glad McConnell's doing better. I still think what he
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represents is is really something that needs to be fixed.
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And that's term limits and actual representation.
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Yeah, I hope he comes out of this and somebody
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gets this, you know, comes out of this healthy, retires.
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Somebody gets the seat that's aggressive, younger. They need to
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put somebody on that's going to be in there and
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obviously have the president's back. We've got a couple more years.
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We need to get it done now. We've waited too long.
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I've been pushing myself saying, hey, look, even when I
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hear criticisms, I'm like, look, I'm not beholden to anybody.
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I'm a Trump supporter, but I'm a conservative first. I
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want some of these things done that are going to
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save our country, you know. We can't be letting loose
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ends when the Democrats one day get back in office.
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We got to get it done now. So we need
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to get it done under Trump. He's one of the
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strongest voices we're going to have. He's not an establishment Republican,
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regardless of what people say about his second term. He's
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still going to be out there and speak. I just
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heard him saying, we can't have this crazy mass migration.
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We got to keep the border safe You're not seeing
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that in a lot of the Western world right now.
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So we got to get stuff done now.
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Yeah, I agree. Greg is fire. Thank you so much
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for being here as always. Great takes. And I look
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forward to having you on again real soon, my friend.
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Thanks, David. You're awesome, man.
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Appreciate you.
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You are awesome too. Thank you.
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Coming up.
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A former researcher at one of the biggest AI companies
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on Earth? Well, he says the technology he's creating could
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kill us all. And 160 million people have watched him
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say it. Is anyone in Washington listening? It is time
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to regulate AI. Or is it too late? Stick around.
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AI, AI seems to be taking over everything. And outside
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of flock cameras, I don't think people are more concerned
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about a technology outside of AI. And it's about to
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reshape every single corner of your life. And it's advancing
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faster than almost anyone is ready for. Here's an uncomfortable
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question nobody in Washington has an answer to. Who is
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making sure that Any of this is done safely. And
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the answer right now is really not that many people.
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It's kind of nobody. I mean, there is some legislation
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out there, but I don't know if it's coming soon enough.
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Let's go back three years. Call them the titans of
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Silicon Valley. The very men building this technology sat down
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with United States Senate and warned them in their own words.
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These are the people who make it of a civilizational risk.
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And this isn't some old story fading into the past.
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Just this week, a former researcher from one of the
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biggest AI companies in the world went public with a
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warning that the technology they are building could, quote, kill
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us all. Why are they creating it? Why are they
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creating a technology?
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Anyway.
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That warning has now been seen more than 160 million times.
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And his former colleagues, they're not laughing at this. One
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of them who leads safety research at that very same company,
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he believes that it is better than a one in
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10 chance that AI, oh my gosh, that AI causes
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human extinction within a decade. One in 10, it's a
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10% chance. These are the people building it, saying that
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there's a 10% chance it ends us. And after three
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years of warning like that, countless hearings, task forces, speeches,
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Congress hasn't really passed any comprehensive regulations. So President Trump
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has stepped in. He signed an executive order to create
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what he calls one rulebook, a single national standard for
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AI to stop a patchwork of 50 different state laws
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from strangling American innovation. I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING HERE.
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THE MORE WE LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO, I GUESS, HARNESS
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THIS TECHNOLOGY, OTHER COUNTRIES ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T WANT TO SEE CHINA HAVE ANY ADVANTAGE.
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HE LOOKED AT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND HE CALLED IT
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A SUBSIDY TO BIG TECH THAT LETS TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES RUN WILD.
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AND CONGRESSWOMAN MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE CAME OUT AGAINST IT. AND
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PLENTY OF LEGAL SCHOLARS ARE ARGUING THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER CAN'T
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LEGALLY OVERRIDE STATE LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE. ONLY CONGRESS
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CAN DO THAT. SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? THE
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MOST POWERFUL TECHNOLOGY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE
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IS BEING BUILT AT BREAK-NECK SPEED BY PEOPLE WHO THEMSELVES
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ARE WARNING IT CAN END US. And the government of
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the United States can't agree on how to regulate them.
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To talk about where this thing goes next, and somebody's
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been sounding the alarm on this for years. He built
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an entire social media platform to kind of fight it
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in some ways. Jeff Dornick, founder of Pickaxe, my good friend.
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Welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time. You go first.
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Honestly, with all of this, right?
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I'm just sitting here and I'm like, there's a propaganda
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machine that's happening on both sides of the aisle right now.
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Like on one hand, you've got the anti-AI crowd that's like,
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it's going to destroy humanity. Everybody's going to die instantaneously
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because AI robots are going to go rogue and we
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have Terminator. And then you've got the other side, like,
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you know, that's President Trump pushing the narrative that like,
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there's no chance that that's going to happen. And anybody
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who says that is a Chinese propagandist. And at a
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certain point, I'm kind of looking at this and I'm like,
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I don't necessarily agree with either side, and I also
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agree with both sides at the same time. Like, the
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truth is somewhere in the middle or this kind of
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third option where there is potential for great, amazing things
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that we can do with AI. There's also potential for
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utter destruction in the end of humanity. Like you said,
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there's that 10% chance that AI could destroy us all.
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I think that's very valid. I think it's very legit.
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We are also in a race with artificial, with China
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over the AI race.
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That is a very real scenario.
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And then there's also a very real scenario that we're
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dealing with AI companies going crazy when it comes to
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surveillance state, when it comes to all sorts of applications
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that I think are wildly unconstitutional and violate our civil
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rights and liberties. And so I'm just sitting here in
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the middle and I'm like, I disagree and agree with
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everybody on all sides simultaneously, which is a very weird
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place to be in.
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Jeff, because I see the opportunity in AI. I mean,
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with efficiencies and really it's a tool like any other
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tool You know, it's like being afraid of the lawnmower.
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And you're like, well, my, you know, my mules that
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pull the whatever you used to mow the lawn with
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on fields back in the day before technology happened. Maybe
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I'm struggling with an analogy. I need AI to help me.
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But at the end of the day, technology has always
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helped us. But AI, I think, freaks people out a
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little bit because a lot of the concern is over
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the fact that, OK, but once we set this thing loose,
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like it's like putting out a virus. We won't be
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able to control it anymore. And a lot of the
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conversation has been built around, you know, it's breaking its
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containment and starting its own viruses and hacking into places
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and all of these things. But the reality is this.
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We can regulate it in the United States. And this
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is what the tug of war has been about. We
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can regulate this in the United States. We can put
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the brakes on in the United States if we can
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at a federal level. And there's some argument with whether
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or not we can. Certain states can regulate it. But
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China is moving full speed ahead at developing AI. Data
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centers tied directly into this because you need these massive
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data centers to process all the information that AI needs
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to do its thing too. And China isn't stopping its
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building of the data centers either. So where you have
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China harnessing full throttle data centers and AI, And you
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have the United States saying, well, I don't quite trust this.
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It can end humanity. Well, should we let the only
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country with the power to end humanity be a country
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that's our biggest adversary? So I understand Trump's position like, hey, guys,
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we're going to regulate ourselves into extinction with this. What
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do you make of all this, Jeff?
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So, again, it's a very nuanced conversation, which is difficult
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to condense. But the reality of it is, is that
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it is a very real scenario that whoever wins the
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AI race wins. Basically has the chance to dominate the world,
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has the chance to rule the world. And Elon Musk
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a few years ago said that there's going to be
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two potential scenarios, neither of which I really like, but
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two potential end games. And he said this to Benjamin
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Netanyahu a few years ago. One is you're going to
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have Terminator. I would argue that the Terminator scenario is
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if China wins, wins the AI race. So that's a
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very real scenario that we have to deal with. Because
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they're already dealing with robotics. They're dealing with AI. They're
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dealing with the weaponization of it. It's going to be
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kind of like Iron Man 2 with those humanoid robots
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that are run by AI.
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Very real scenario. We could see Terminator if China wins.
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That's for real.
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On the other side, you've got Elon Musk describing heaven
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on earth in the best case scenario. I would argue
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that in all reality, the heaven on earth scenario would
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be if the United States wins the race, that's more
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what we'd experience.
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But then he goes on to describe what heaven on
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earth is.
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And what he describes is what he later has called
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a communist utopia where humans don't work because AI and
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robots will do everything. We'll live on either a UBI
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or there'll be no more need for money because it's
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all AI-driven. So then it just comes down to power
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and resources. the centralization of power, really, it just comes
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from the government. We're all reliant either on the government
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or these tech companies. And we just live a hedonistic lifestyle.
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We just sit around on our couch. We watch TV
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inside of our brains and we go about our days.
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And I don't want either one.
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Of those scenarios because that doesn't represent American values and
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neither does Terminator.
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And so it's one of those things where there's got
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to be.
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An America first option here that actually puts American people
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first and actually values our constitutional rights. And I think
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that that's where a lot of the fight over the
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AI data centers, in my opinion, is a distraction. We
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need AI data centers in order to combat China. That
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is 100% true. But also I think the conversation we
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should be having is what is the application of artificial
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intelligence into American life? What do we want to see
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You know, this new world with AI look like in
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America where we're not just giving over all power and
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control to AI and robots.
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We no longer have purpose as human beings. We no
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longer work. We no longer own anything.
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And I think that's the conversation we should be having,
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not fighting over whether we should be fast tracking or
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slowing down AI. To me, I think it's more about
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how are we applying AI within the American way of life?
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I don't know if there's an answer yet that we
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have figured out. All I know is it's creating definitely
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more ammunition for people to use against one side or
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the other, pointing blames. I mean, you've seen the debates
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playing out right now on social media. I'm sure you're
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seeing it on your platform, pro and against President Trump's position,
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other people's positions. It's a mess. We've got to figure
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it out. And I think the only solution to this
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is at least for us to put aside what are
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perceived to be partisan values here and kind of look
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at the, like you said, the America first outcome of this.
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We have to figure this out because it is the
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future one way or the other. And either we're subject
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to it or we're in control of it. And I
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think that's the conversation that we're going to have to
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keep having. Jeff Dornick, thank you so much for being
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here as always. Great conversation.
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Thank you. Appreciate it.
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Tomorrow afternoon, the Federal Reserve decides whether to raise the
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cost of your mortgage, your car, and your credit card
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payments seven weeks before an election. We have Grant Cardone
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on the Cardone Zone telling you why there might actually
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be an opportunity if rates go up. You're not going
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to want to miss this. Stay tuned.
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You're going to hear a lot about the Federal Reserve
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over the next few days because tomorrow afternoon at around
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2 o'clock, they're going to make a decision that could
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hit your wallet harder than just about anything Congress can do.
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And right now, a lot of experts are saying that
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the Fed will most likely hike rates. That's right. We're
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not talking about cutting rates, as Trump has been asking for.
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We're talking about a potential rate hike. It's expected due
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to inflation related to energy from the war with Iran.
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But the rate hike, it just doesn't impact energy. It
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would raise the cost of mortgages, your car loan, your
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credit card, and the interest on our national debt. And
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let's be honest, this comes at the absolute worst possible
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moment with seven weeks before an election, with families already
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stretched thin, with everybody already talking about the economy. Of course,
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President Trump is in an all-out fight to stop the
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rate hike. The president, the vice president, the treasury secretary,
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they've all been hammering the same message. The Fed's new chairman,
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do not, please do not raise rates. Cut them. Trump
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has said rates should be a full three points lower
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to ease the crushing cost of the national debt and
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let this economy just run. And he's got the ammunition
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because last month's job reports, it came in at nearly
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triple what experts predicted. The economy is strong. There seems
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to be no reason for a hike, except maybe for politics.
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And my next guest is also sounding the alarm about
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what happens if the Fed gets this wrong. He posted
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this morning this, saying, if rates don't come down, there
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will be problems of biblical proportions across banking as $ 1
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trillion in debt maturing this year and majority is held
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with banks. It's a buyer's market with loans maturing, rents flat,
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interest rates climbing. It takes courage, but he also says
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this is where the big money is made. Always an optimist.
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A trillion dollars in debt coming due, most of it
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sitting on the books of the banks. And at the
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exact moment, the Fed is thinking about making that debt
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more expensive. He calls it a risk of biblical proportions.
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He also calls it an opportunity of a lifetime. For
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anyone with the courage to move, he's a man who
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built an empire doing exactly this and taking advantage of opportunities.
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Let's get his take. I'm honored to welcome Mr. Grant
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Cardone back to Dave Pollack Prime Time. We're calling this
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the Cardone Zone, my favorite weekly economic segment. So, Grant,
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explain this. Rates go up. A lot of people are
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freaking out about it. You say there's opportunity, but let's
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first start about the biblical proportions of the consequences of
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a rate hike.
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Well, look, you have loans maturing, right, in this cycle.
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So there's about a trillion dollars worth of loans across apartments, hotels, hospitality.
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Some of that's held with Fannie and Freddie Mac. Most
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of it, though, is held by regional banks or even
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big banks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, et cetera. So that's
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where most of America keeps their savings, their checking. and
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maybe their money market accounts, okay? That money is lent
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out when you drop money at your checking account, savings account,
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or money market. That money is then lent to people
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like me that borrow money on three-year, five-year, seven-year, 10-year.
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A lot of this money was borrowed three and five
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years ago back in 2020, 2022, and it's due this year.
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It's a trillion this year. It's almost 900 billion next year.
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It's due. Guess what? When your lease payment's due on
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your car, you got to turn the car in.
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When your mortgage payment is due on the loan, you
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have to either refinance the loan or you have to
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sell the property. We have the highest supply of assets,
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properties for sale today than we've had since 2008, maybe
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since 2000.
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This is the biggest.
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Single real estate opportunity in my 68 years being on
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this planet, looking at real estate. But it's terrifying because.
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This trillion dollars cannot be paid back. The trillion dollars
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in debt, David, is probably only worth $ 600 billion.
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So somebody has to come up with $ 400.
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Billion in losses or to show losses on their books,
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and the banks don't want to do that. So last
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thing I'll say about that is this. I don't think
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the Fed raises tomorrow just for these very reasons. The
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only solution here is lower interest rates. And it's like
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Trump's being played right now by someone, but I believe
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he'll figure out how to pull this off and get
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rates lower.
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So that, I mean, I hope, I hope they don't
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raise rates. At the last Fed meeting, there was some
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votes for raising and obviously Warsh— was in favor of
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keeping them the same, not lowering them as the president.
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Most all the banks think that they're going to reach through, yeah.
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Yeah, and Trump has said, look, he supports Warsh. He
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has confidence in him. So we'll see what they do.
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But let me break this down a little bit because
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00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:17.469
it's really interesting. You say opportunity. The last big opportunity
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came at a tremendous financial meltdown when they were basically
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selling everything at a fire sale. And yeah, there were
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some real estate opportunities. Nobody had any cash, but there
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was real estate opportunities. Are you suggesting that If they
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raise rates, we might have a massive market sell-off when
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these notes come due?
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We already have a market sell-off right now. It's just
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being quietly done with guys like me and institutions. And
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where middle America, you know, the people out there trying
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to buy a home or trade their home, you're looking
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too small in the food chain. You need to be
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looking for the big fish right now. You like my
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fishing analogies, right? So, you know, when the fish aren't biting,
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move the boat, man.
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That's what I say.
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And then if you're not catching what you want, you
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gotta move to where.
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The pain is. You gotta follow the money, okay?
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And unfortunately, most Americans are trying to buy a house
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when they should be trying to buy the block.
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This is an opportunity.
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In 2010, Blackstone went and bought 10,000 condos in Miami.
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I saw this in the news on the internet. I
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was in Los Angeles. I lived in Los Angeles at
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the time. This is what entrepreneurs do when they see opportunity.
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I sold my house the following week, took all the
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money and went and bought Miami because I was following
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the money.
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Okay.
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And this is what people should be doing right now.
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Big institutions are having to sell these big 150, 200 unit,
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300 unit complexes and Smart people right now should learn
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about apartment investing, how to buy cashflow, how to get
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loans on it, how to raise money for it.
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And you will make, you'll make more money in.
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The next 10 years than you've made, than your family's
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made in the last 400.
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So, if I'm understanding this correctly, and this is why
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I love these segments, because when we have a billionaire
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on to tell people how to think like a billionaire
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and not think, you know, in the circumstances they're in,
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when homebuyers or people with cash, you know, who are thinking,
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I really wanted to buy a single-family home, and they're like,
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look at these rates. This is really bad for me.
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You're sitting here saying, stop thinking like you're buying a
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single family home. Think like an entrepreneur and look for
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the opportunities for buying things outside of the single family home.
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Maybe rent a little longer and take that money you've
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been saving and look at buying at least an equity
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share in an apartment building with a group of folks.
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That's what you're telling people to do right now. Stop
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being reactionary, reacting to the market, instead getting ahead of
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the market and find ways to make money regardless of
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where interest rates are.
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Yeah, now your audience is going to say, well, you know,
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who can do that? I don't have enough money. OK, but,
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you know. You want to buy a car, you want
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to buy the car dealership. If you buy the car dealership,
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if you'd actually get an education how.
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To buy the car dealership, you never have to buy
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another car in your life. What I'm suggesting to people,
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I started with no money. OK, literally three thousand bucks,
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but but a tremendous amount of desire to be successful
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and have have my financial life fixed. And I studied
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real estate for three years. And right now, this cycle,
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it was late 1990s, there was a cycle. 2008 was
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the next cycle. That was 18 years. Here we are
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18 years later. It's game time, man. You don't need
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to wait till Sunday or Thursday night football. This is
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game time for middle-class America to make more wealth in
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the next decade than your family has made in the
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last 400 years.
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And it's all about investing in the right thing and
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what you're saying, to be clear. Now, if somebody says, OK, Grant,
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that sounds great. How do I go buy a fraction interest?
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I can't afford a whole apartment building. How can I
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buy a fractionary interest in an apartment building where I
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can make that wealth that you're talking about?
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You can't do it if the first thing you do
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is throw in the towel and say, I can't do that.
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So like I can't even talk to somebody that immediately
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throws the towel in. OK, this is the easiest debt
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you will ever get is the kind of loans I'm
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00:41:10.340 --> 00:41:12.860
talking This is easier to get a loan on a
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00:41:12.860 --> 00:41:15.289
200 unit apartment complex than it is.
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A $ 400, 000 house.
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Unfortunately, nobody knows about it because all this information has
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been kept private to the big institutions. And I'm showing
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people how I did this. I've done this without big banks, David.
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I've done it by learning how they do it. I
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00:41:32.500 --> 00:41:36.210
mimicked what they were doing. I put the strategy they
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were using in place. I raised money from friends, family,
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and on social media, which is actually legal today. I've
812
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raised $ 2 billion from friends, family, customers, and employees. And
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I go out and buy large institutional quality real estate
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that institutions have to sell, by the way. They have
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to sell their assets. because they have to report their profits.
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And they're in trouble right now. It's like in 2008,
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the stripper went and bought four houses. In 2020, the
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institution went and bought 20,000 units. And they both basically
819
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did the same thing, okay? They over leveraged and took
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on too much debt. And that's why I said this
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is biblical proportions.
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I love it.
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It's bigger than 2008.
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I love it. And I love that advice. I'm sure
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people are going to have lots of questions. And I'm
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sure these strategies are, I know this isn't like a,
827
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this isn't a sales pitch. You come on to give
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great advice to the audience. This isn't a sponsored segment.
829
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I'm legitimately asking this question. If people want to learn
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these strategies, I'm assuming you've packaged this up, right? So
831
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they can go and find it.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to sell anybody anything. I'm telling you,
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I will try to sell the American public this. If
834
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you keep just simply waiting for 40 acres.
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And a mule, okay? Which is basically what a single
836
00:43:02.130 --> 00:43:05.940
family home is. That's all you're ever gonna get.
837
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Lever up.
838
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Nobody ever got rich buying a single-family home ever in
839
00:43:10.449 --> 00:43:12.829
the history of the world. Warren Buffett owned one house.
840
00:43:12.929 --> 00:43:16.329
Steve Jobs owned one house. Elon Musk doesn't own a home.
841
00:43:16.550 --> 00:43:18.449
The richest people in the world don't want homes. They
842
00:43:18.469 --> 00:43:22.159
want investments that cash flow, that depreciate, and that live
843
00:43:22.179 --> 00:43:23.659
for long, long periods of time.
844
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And right now, Americans have this one moment in time.
845
00:43:26.980 --> 00:43:29.420
This window is going to open and close literally in
846
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the next three years.
847
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It'll be shut.
848
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And either Americans are going to buy this, David Pollack
849
00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:37.989
and your people are going to buy it, Grant Cardone
850
00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:39.550
and his family is going to buy it, or the
851
00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:42.610
institutions are just going to keep loading up and owning
852
00:43:42.769 --> 00:43:43.489
all of America.
853
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Because they just recycle these assets amongst one another.
854
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And I have figured out a way to crack the
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00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:53.199
code and buy from the Blackstones and the Starwoods, the Camdens,
856
00:43:53.219 --> 00:43:56.480
the Avalons, the MetLife, the New York. These are trillion-dollar
857
00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.480
companies that I'm doing deals with, and I'm proof that
858
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anyone can do this.
859
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I love it. It's hope. It's hope. And why I
860
00:44:03.909 --> 00:44:06.610
love these segments so much, Grant, is because if you
861
00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:07.690
turn on the news, all you're going to hear is
862
00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:09.360
doom and gloom. Interest rates go up. I mean, I
863
00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:11.679
even said it in my monologue. My assumption was rates
864
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are going to go up. It's going to crush everybody.
865
00:44:13.460 --> 00:44:14.639
I almost killed myself in your monologue.
866
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What's that?
867
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I almost killed myself.
868
00:44:18.570 --> 00:44:21.230
So that's the thing. It's about changing the mentality. And
869
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I went into this segment thinking interest rates are going
870
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to go up. This is terrible for America. And then
871
00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:28.090
you come on and say, guys, you're not looking at
872
00:44:28.130 --> 00:44:30.409
it this right way. Flip the table over and find
873
00:44:30.429 --> 00:44:33.789
the opportunities underneath it. Grant Cardone, I love the Cardone
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00:44:33.809 --> 00:44:36.030
zones on Tuesdays. I can't wait to talk to you
875
00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:38.809
next Tuesday. And we'll talk more about the opportunities for
876
00:44:38.849 --> 00:44:40.630
all America. Thank you so much for being here.
877
00:44:41.769 --> 00:44:42.110
Thanks, David.
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Still ahead, the rapper Macklemore. He appears to hate everything
879
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:52.699
about America, except it's free speech protections. More on him
880
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.659
getting kicked off a tour for the things that came
881
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:57.519
out of his mouth. That's coming up next.
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The rapper, Macklemore, you remember him? The thrift shop guy?
893
00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:49.400
I'm not going to sing it for you if you don't. Well,
894
00:45:49.449 --> 00:45:53.659
he just got kicked off of Ed Sheeran's stadium tour.
895
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Gone.
896
00:45:56.210 --> 00:45:58.949
And right now, of course, he's going to every platform
897
00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:02.849
he can find to cry about it. Casted as the victim,
898
00:46:02.889 --> 00:46:07.170
poor Macklemore. Wrapping himself in the flag of free speech
899
00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:13.639
and artistic courage. Now, here's the story. Macklemore, he was
900
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.949
the opening act on Ed Sheeran's American tour. And at
901
00:46:16.969 --> 00:46:20.590
the first shows at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, he
902
00:46:20.650 --> 00:46:23.909
decided to turn his opening set into a political rally,
903
00:46:23.949 --> 00:46:28.889
of course, chanting, free Palestine, over and over, wearing one
904
00:46:28.909 --> 00:46:33.829
of them little scarves and performing a protest anthem while
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00:46:33.869 --> 00:46:36.829
footage from the war in Gaza played on the giant
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00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:39.550
screens behind him. Now, it didn't go over well.
907
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Look.
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00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:41.610
I've been trying to figure out a way to say
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this all day. One of the reasons why I wanted
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to come on this tour was because I wanted to
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stand up here on stages and stadiums across America and
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say two words that are very near and dear to
913
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my heart, free Palestine.
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That is not why you're there on the tour. You're
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supposed to perform, perform. Nobody cares about your politics, Macklemore.
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Because politics are the thrift shop. Now, pro-Israel groups launched petitions.
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Stadium owners, including Robert Kraft, who owns Gillette Stadium, said,
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not in my building. And just like that, Macklemore was
919
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.489
off the tour. This isn't the first time Macklemore has
920
00:47:29.530 --> 00:47:32.349
been involved in controversy. This is a guy who had
921
00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:36.829
another show just last year, grabbed a microphone and told
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00:47:36.929 --> 00:47:38.409
a crowd, and I'm going to clean it up for
923
00:47:38.449 --> 00:47:44.619
you for television, two other words, F America. That's right.
924
00:47:45.300 --> 00:47:50.739
Free Palestine, but F America. That's Macklemore. Well, Robert Kraft,
925
00:47:50.980 --> 00:47:53.739
he's not having an explaining. His decision, he pointed to
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what he called his broader history of anti-Semitic rhetoric, including
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a costume years ago, apparently, that a lot of people
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found pretty grotesque. Not a country that he says to F.
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He wants to hide behind his constitutional protections? We'll see
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what Hamas thinks about your ability to speak freely. But now,
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save your sympathy, because there are conservative artists in this
932
00:48:20.019 --> 00:48:23.699
country who have been quietly blacklisted for years, frozen out,
933
00:48:23.739 --> 00:48:27.099
dropped by their labels, uninvited from shows, canceled, not for
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00:48:27.139 --> 00:48:30.650
saying F America, not for saying free Palestine, but for
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00:48:30.730 --> 00:48:35.130
loving this country or even backing President Trump. They don't
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get sympathetic press tours. They don't get headlines. They don't
937
00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:41.500
go to social media and cry about it. My next
938
00:48:41.579 --> 00:48:43.980
guest is somebody they've tried to cancel, but they can't.
939
00:48:44.420 --> 00:48:48.519
A genuinely talented singer who loves America, and she's paid
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00:48:48.539 --> 00:48:51.030
a professional price for it. And she knows exactly what
941
00:48:51.050 --> 00:48:53.530
this industry does to people who won't toe its line.
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I'm honored to be joined by Billboard charting artist Joy Vila.
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00:48:56.829 --> 00:49:00.349
Welcome back. Dave Pollack, Prime Time. Hello.
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Listen, I know what Ed Sheeran was thinking when he
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saw Macklemore. He said, darling, I don't want anti-Semitism on
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my tour. That's what he was probably singing because he
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must have been absolutely shocked because Ed Sheeran is notoriously
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not political, right?
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I don't think he.
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one political thing.
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He's a singer.
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He's a songwriter.
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He's loved by many.
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He's probably like Michael Jordan. You know, he probably thinks
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Republicans buy my music too. So why tick anybody off?
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Right.
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But Macklemore, Macklemore, who hasn't had a hit song since
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2014's Thrift Shop, right? Or was that 2007? Anyways, it's
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been so long that we don't even know when that
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last album came out that was a hit. He's 42.
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You think he would have learned lessons by now to
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respect other cultures. But in 2014, not only was that
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look grotesque. I mean, if you pull up the pictures,
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if anybody at home looks at those pictures, he denied
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that it was an anti-Semitic. but yet it had a
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black bowl cut, straight black hair, a big suit, and
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a huge fake nose. He roamed around stage performing in
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2014 saying, oh, yeah, it was not an anti-Semitic reference.
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I mean, he obviously looked like the very grotesque version
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of what the Nazis portrayed for Jewish people. And here
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he is, one love, gay rights, and now it's Palestine. Okay, Macklemore,
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I think the truth is you only like certain types
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of people.
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You don't like America.
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You don't like Jews. You probably don't even like Black people,
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even though you stole their music being a rapper.
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Let's be real.
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You're just the same as all these Hollywood Democrats, an
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inside racist. But when the cameras are rolling, you love everybody.
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Yeah, well, and that's, you know, the heart of all
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of this, and it's such a good point you make,
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the heart of all of this is it's not about Palestine,
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it's not about the Jews, it's not about any of
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these things, it's not about America. The reality is he's
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either completely indoctrinated by it or an intentional spokesman for it.
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this separatist socialist movement that just wants to reframe America
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as a place that people should hate. And whatever cause
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they can adopt that seemingly hates America, well, that's their friend.
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An enemy of my enemy is my friend. And he's
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just a mouthpiece for it, right?
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And meanwhile, profiting off of America. You know, if you
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hate America so much, listen, America has its issues. Our
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country is not perfect, but it's trying to be a
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more perfect nation, right? We have had a tumultuous past
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like many other countries.
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We're new.
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We're 250 years old. We're doing our best to move forward.
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And I feel like we've moved a lot forward. And
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I love this country. This is the country I was
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born in. My parents come from immigrants. My family is immigrants.
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But half of my family is Black American, brought here
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by no fault of their own, right, if you trace
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down slavery. And even though that my Black family loves America,
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my Italian-Argentinian family loves America, I love America because this
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is my home And you can slightly criticize something, but
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to demean it and say, down with America. Meanwhile, you're
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making all the money from America. Meanwhile, you're born here.
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I mean, first of all, him getting kicked off of
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Ed Sheeran's tour. is the consequences of his actions. Meanwhile,
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somebody like me or somebody like Kaya Jones of the
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Pussycat Dolls or any artists who are publicly outspoken for Jesus,
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for America, for decency, we're not nude, we're not cursing,
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we're not waving gay flags all day, all everywhere. We
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love the president, we love America. We don't get invited
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to these tours. We get kicked out of places. But
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here he is, the consequence of his actions, you know, divisive.
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And he's going to complain and say, well, this was
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the best tour. He said, oh, this is the best
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tour I've ever been in because I'm standing up for freedom. Bro,
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take a seat and make an album that people will
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actually listen to.
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That's exactly right. It's the victim mentality and blame everyone
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else but themselves. Joy Vila, I love having you on
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the show. Thank you so much for your excellent takes
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as always.
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It's a pleasure.
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That is our show for tonight. Join us tomorrow for
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another Weaponization Wednesday. That's our new segment where we highlight
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instances where the government. has turned against its citizens, and
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we asked the question, is it weaponization? Tomorrow, we're going
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to sit down with a doctor, an emergency room physician,
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who says his own government did that. In fact, to him,
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his story is unbelievable, and that's coming up tomorrow. Stay
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with us on social media, Dave Pollack USA, everywhere, or
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email us, DavePollackPrimeTime at OANN.com. See you tomorrow, same time,
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same place. And until then, stay classy, America.
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Good night.
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