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Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310.
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Speaker 3: And good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby. Today is Wednesday, November the 4th. It is the day after, Eric, the day after.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the day after the wave.
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Speaker 3: The wave.
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Speaker 5: The blue wave.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the blue wave.
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Speaker 4: That's what I've been hearing, the blue wave.
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Speaker 3: I heard blue tsunami.
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Speaker 5: Blue tsunami?
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Speaker 6: Oh, okay, tsunami.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. That is the number to the show. Lines will be open throughout. On our show today, what else? What we just said. It is the day after the midterm elections. Democrats have won big, both here at home and really big across the country. We're going to be talking about that throughout the course of the show today. Let's go ahead and bring in Our contributing analyst, James Patterson. James, are you awake? How'd you do?
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Speaker 5: I'm indeed awake. Barely, though.
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Speaker 7: I was up late last night. But like Eric said, most commentators are saying a blue wave.
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Speaker 5: However, Tina, you were right.
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Speaker 7: Hakeem Jeffries has already called it a blue or a tsunami.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, both of them work here.
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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us could have predicted what happened last night in terms of Democratic wins. I just I mean, I just yeah, I felt that it was going to be favorable. But I never thought in a million years it would be tsunami. I guess it's the lack of it. Were you at all surprised, James?
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Speaker 7: Well, let me read something to you, okay, real quick. It takes me about 45 seconds. Give me 45 seconds. And this is a speech from Martin Luther King Jr., March 14th, 1968, at Grosse Pointe High School in Michigan, outside Detroit. And the speech was titled, The Other America.
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Speaker 5: And it goes like this.
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Speaker 7: John Donne was right. No man is an island. And the tide that fills every man is a place. a piece of the continent, a part of the main. And he goes on toward the end to say, any man's death diminishes me because I'm involved in mankind. Therefore, it's not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee. He's quoting King as John Donne. Somehow, King goes on, we must come to see that in this pluralistic world, Interrelated society, we are all tied together, I'm quoting Dr. King, in a single garment of destiny, caught in inescapable network of mutuality. And by working with determination and realizing that the power must be shared, I think we can solve this problem. And may I say in conclusion that our goal is freedom, and I believe that we're going to get there. It's going to be more difficult from here on in, but I believe we're going to get there because however much She strays away from it. The goal of America is freedom, and our destiny is tied up with the destiny of America. Before the Pilgrim Fathers landed at Plymouth, we were there.
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Speaker 8: Before Jefferson etched across the pages of history the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence, we were here. Before the beautiful words of the Star-Spangled Banner were written, we were here. And for more than two centuries, our forefathers labored here without wages. They made cotton king. They built the homes of their masters in the midst of the most humiliating and oppressive conditions, and yet out of a bottomless vitality, they continued to grow and develop. And if the inexpressible cruelties of slavery couldn't stop us, the opposition that we now face, including the white backlash, will surely fail. Martin Luther King, 1968, at Michigan. in the high.
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Speaker 7: School there at Grosse Pointe. And so I think that kind of sums it up, that what he dreamed, what he spoke of, and this was approximately 21 days before he was assassinated in Memphis, is beginning to come to fruition.
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Speaker 9: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking directly tied to yesterday's elections?
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Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 7: I think that was a prophecy that At one point, he said the South shall rise again. We have a senator elected from Texas, a senator for the first time in I don't know how many years, a senator elected from South Carolina for the first time in decades. We have a race in Mississippi right now in which the black Democratic Senate candidate says this morning we are going to win.
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Speaker 5: It's a nail biter. I just checked it this morning. He was ahead by 40, 43.
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Speaker 3: 43 votes.
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Speaker 5: Right now. I just checked.
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Speaker 7: See, see, MSNB, MSN, MSN, MSN. He is ahead by more than 60 votes. So it's a slow process, but he could win that. And when King said the South shall rise again, that is where that our power will come from the South, because we here in the North, we were our parents were part of that great migration and we are part of the Southern diaspora.
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Speaker 5: So we.
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Speaker 7: Here today represent all over this country what king talked about then and that is the the the southern black migration all over this country and it's becoming the uh into formation but it is based in the south when he said the south should rise again so that's where i think uh that the ticket.
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Speaker 3: Is yeah well let's uh you know there's a lot to you know to talk about and to um To go through, sort out, as you will, just the specifics of last night. And again, I'm still, that's, you know, that prophecy, as you say, is very interesting. I'm processing all of it. because that was a lot to process. And, you know, we can look at what happened last night in a number of different ways, and certainly that prophecy is one of them. You know, we've had our Democratic strategist, Ms. Cordelia, on. Republican strategist, Abdul-Hakim Shabazz, will probably be calling in at some point in time as we go through, you know, through some of the specifics of what happened what exactly happened. And we also, as we were saying, James, have the lines open for the remainder of the show for those that want to weigh in. But yeah, I just, wow. Just wow. Oh, go ahead.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: You were about to say something.
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Speaker 7: Well, I was just going to say, reiterate what I said. What you've seen, although... There are a lot of factors that people will point to. I mean, I was watching the local news a couple of days ago and they were like, oh, yeah, there's been lines. It's because of, you know, the local races, the statewide races, a bow by for secretary of state, you know, against three opponents. And it's it's it's it's because of, you know, the race that J.D. Ford flipped the seat and won. And I think it's is it five?
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Speaker 3: Is it Congressional District five?
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Speaker 10: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Indiana Congressional District.
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Speaker 7: Against Victoria Sparks.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: No, no.
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Speaker 7: I'm saying those all were the the the the the they they pushed they pushed us to the point we are now. They were the ingredients for what happened. But it when they tried to take away I'm talking to nationally when they tried to take away the vote. In the South in particular, in places like Mississippi, and they did take it away. In Tennessee, they took it away in Louisiana after a court had ruled that that map was wrong. Alabama, they tried to take it away. So what I'm saying is that when you press people down, when you continue to put their heads down to the ground, they are going to stand up and fight back. And I believe that's a large part of what you have seen overnight.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Definitely fighting back with force. But, yeah, yeah. Let's go to the phone lines, and then we'll go through some of the, you know, in case folks had no idea, you know, the referendum, public question one and two, you know, Indiana, then, you know, wherever else we end up going with this. But, you know, some of our listeners want to weigh in as well. So let's go to the phone lines, 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. Marvin, go ahead. How are you?
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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I told Eric, happy America Day. I always tell people evil can win. They'll have their day, but I always believe good overcomes evil. We saw that yesterday. And Indiana, you know, it was just amazing here. And I'm not going to take them because I know they're.
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Speaker 12: Going to have a lot of calls.
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Speaker 6: But even with the school board races, I think it was a referendum on money in our politics because there were millions of dollars spent against the candidates in the other states. And we won. Even with the IPS school board races, I knew they would break 3-2. I didn't know which way it would go. So when there were more backhanders, because you have to think about they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to defeat these people. They didn't defeat two of them. And then the three that they did defeat, they barely won, Tina, against all of that money. So I just think yesterday was a great day. If you look at Bob Binning, who was the chairman of the Education Committee, who had been pushing a lot of those destructive legislation through against IPS. He was defeated yesterday. And it wasn't just because of the blue wave. They had a concerted effort with the candidates. They had a lot of people door-knocking for that. So there were some big things to happen yesterday. I think we broke the supermajority. here in the state of Indiana. None of that was expected.
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Speaker 3: But the vote's still being counted because it probably is a House and a Senate here in Indiana.
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Speaker 6: It's a House and a Senate. And then lastly, Tina, if you look at it, vote by, you can't say that former Mayor Ballard calls England that race. Vote by, even with England and vote by, I mean England and former Mayor Ballard's vote tallies together, vote by one that seat, the Secretary of State seat handling. So it was just a great day. I'm hopeful again. You know, what surprised me, I'm going to let two things go.
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Speaker 5: Trump immediately, oh, I'll work with the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: What do little kids say about that? What do little kids say about that? What do they say?
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Speaker 10: Psych?
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Speaker 9: No, no.
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Speaker 3: Do not fall for that.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to, you know, I don't believe that, but I'm not going to dispute the results. So you can't. It was so overwhelming. How can you? And then lastly, Tina, it was so funny. I was laying on the couch watching MS down last night and Trump sent out this tweet about how he had higher.
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Speaker 6: Approval ratings and Abraham Lincoln and that kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: The hyperbole never ends. It never ends. Best ever, best election ever.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So it's a great day, Tina. I think if you look at it, even if you include Bob Donaldson, and I know he's a Republican, he's an HBCU grad. What James is talking about.
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Speaker 3: In the South. You're talking about Donald in Texas? I mean, in Florida?
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Speaker 6: In Florida.
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Speaker 3: Byron Donald?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's Black. So you got Georgia.
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Speaker 3: He's Negro.
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Speaker 5: What were you going to say about the South, Marvin? Marvin, what were you going to say about the South? Your comments were true about the South rising. Now, I believe had Angie Nixon and Donaldson went against each other and Jolly and the Senator there went against each other, I believe we would have won four or two because you would have had two black candidates if you get what I'm saying. I think that we would have took Florida, and then Dave Jolly would have beat, I don't even know that senator's name down there. I just think if things would have been reversed, it might have been a different result. And if the Democrats would have put more money into Florida, Angie Nixon, with hardly no money, almost won that race. So I just think it was a good night. And like I said, I'm not giving Bob Donaldson any, I know what he stands for, he's MAGA, but I'm.
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Speaker 6: Just saying what James was talking about. You have a Hispanic, governor of Texas. You have a.
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Speaker 3: Hinojosa, yes.
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Speaker 5: And you have to.
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Speaker 12: Think about it, Kima.
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Speaker 6: And then a Native American first-ever governor of New Mexico. I think God has a sense of humor against.
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Speaker 5: All your hate.
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Speaker 6: We have a Black governor in Wisconsin and Nevada. It was just... If they don't understand what happened yesterday, they'll never get it. Thanks for taking my call.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Marvin. Thank you, Marvin, indeed. And Marvin, you know, he was talking about a lot of the national races, but James, I think it's important that we highlight the Indiana and the local races. The biggest, you know, the most watched, probably highest, highly contested statewide race was the race for Secretary of State. And Beau Bayh won that handily over Republican opponent Max Engling. Greg Ballard, former mayor of the city of Indianapolis, came in a distant third. And I don't remember what the Libertarian, Ballard was Lincoln Party. I can't remember what the Libertarian's numbers were. I don't have them all right here. But anyway, Bobai won that. The public questions, Indiana public questions one and two, despite the education, we did the best we could, but public question one, which was the- Yeah. OK, go ahead, James. What were you saying?
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Speaker 5: Well, that was approved. Yeah, they both were approved. But you know what? Not only did we I mean, we explained them right. But you're right.
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Speaker 7: There was a lack of education. And I say this from.
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Speaker 5: My own experience.
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Speaker 7: When I went to the polling booth, people called me over to where they were voting, and that's allowed in Indiana. You can go and help somebody vote if they want you to. And they had voted. They said, is this right? In my view, it wasn't, because they had voted yes. That was the first question that popped up. Those were the first two, public question one and public question two, when you put.
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Speaker 9: Your ballot in.
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Speaker 7: That was the first question that popped up. And, you know, I said, no, they want to put people in jail and hold them without bail before trial, before trial. And he was like, no, no, I don't want that.
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Speaker 5: He said, no.
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Speaker 7: And another person said, no, no, I don't want that.
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Speaker 5: I said, no.
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Speaker 7: So that was two people where I was who didn't understand it. So I think a lack of education on those two things. was really one of the main reasons that they were approved. People just didn't know, and they went, oh, well, it must be the legislature passed it, and they're saying they just want us approved. It must be okay. But they didn't understand. There was not enough publicity about it, and we did the best we could beforehand, but I just think people didn't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't know. And I will add to that the way that it was worded. There's a way you can present things on the ballot clear, concisely, and at the age level or grade level that anyone could understand it. This took a legal mind to dissect, you know, or some type of a mind to dissect the language and figure out, you know, where it is and what it, you know, it was just, I think it was deliberately misinterpreted.
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Speaker 8: I do too.
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Speaker 9: On purpose.
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Speaker 7: And speaking of a legal mind, I don't know that it passes constitutional muster. We'll see if it gets challenged because according to the Constitution– let's see. It should not– it talks about excessive bail. I'll find it. But you cannot– I'll find that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Bond is really granted.
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Speaker 3: By the Constitution. By the Constitution. I can't imagine that that would not be challenged. I can't imagine. And then the judge's question, public question number two, that allows the residency requirements for city and town court judges was on the ballot as referred to. Yes vote. supported expanding the area in which a town or city judge may reside to include the county bordering the court. A no vote exposed expanding the area in which a town or city judge may resign. So there was that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the Eighth Amendment that I was talking about before you came back to the phone. So if anybody wants to look it up, it talks about how that it protects citizens citizens against imposing excessive bail. In this case, there is no bail, according to this new.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to be excessive if there is none, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 7: Excessive fines or cruel or unusual punishment. So, you know, I would not doubt that it's going to be challenged. We'll have to wait and see.
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Speaker 3: The other thing we talked about quite a bit on the show, especially for the state's largest school system, it looks like the IPS property tax referendum passed. It was approved. And so far, so good. A state takeover has been, you know, put on hold or pause or avoided. Yeah, let's say avoided. Voters passed a property tax increase to generate an estimated ninety five million dollars. In Indianapolis for Indianapolis public schools and roughly 60 charter schools throughout the city. The extra funding is a lifeline. It's not a permanent solution. It's a lifeline for the district, which face potential state intervention without the measure due to its dire financial situation. 63% of voters approved the ballot question according to unofficial results. So, bow-bye. The Democrat wins. The other down-ballot offices went well for the Democrats. Public question number one and two were approved. IPS referendum was approved. And, you know, the statehouse is no longer a supermajority. The Indiana Statehouse is no longer operating with the supermajority. And that could be whittled down even more because there's still a few races still being counted that haven't been determined yet.
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Speaker 7: So that's true.
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Speaker 5: Good point.
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Speaker 7: I know you want to get your callers in, but one on the IPS on the IPS referendum. I'm glad you said it's a lifeline, not a permanent solution, because let me just play the advocate here of voters, because we talked about this and we had a lot of people call in and say, look. What is this for? So I would caution Superintendent Alicia Johnson and those who are in charge, the IPS board, look, you've got to show results. People are not going to continue to approve these tax increases for funding for our schools. The statehouse comes in here too, Tina, because now that we have a super– broken the supermajority, that means that they cannot conduct business without a quorum. That means that Democrats will increase their.
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Speaker 5: Numbers on committees. That's all– oh, that's right.
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Speaker 7: That's all-encompassing. That's a good word, leverage. So maybe they can get some more funding to urban school districts like IPS, which have traditionally been underfunded.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I– I'm of the persuasion that you can't keep taking away, taking away, taking away and say, all right, do good. All right, do good. I'm going to take some more away from you, so you better do good. I'm going to take some more away from you, so you better do better. It's insanity. I mean, the math doesn't add up. They say the math ain't mathing. So, you know, how can IPS be expected to continue to grow and thrive under these conditions? So, yes, indeed, the supermajority being dismantled, so to speak, and perhaps we can get some more reasonableness in there and some more funding to the school system that desperately needs it. Let's go back to the phone lines, 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 10: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Russell, go ahead. How are you?
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Speaker 9: Hey, Tina.
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Speaker 3: Hey. Great day.
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Speaker 11: Great getting up morning it is a good.
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Speaker 7: Day that reminds me of mr russell from that movie glory and how uh denzel washington was he was called on to praise you know i'm not a praying man but but but before that great you know what that that was uh what's his name.
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Speaker 9: Um Morgan Freeman.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, well.
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Speaker 5: That great getting up morning, we just want.
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Speaker 2: To do this.
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Speaker 3: Lordy.
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Speaker 2: Lordy, lordy.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing. But, you know, if you think about it, there were so many things against what the government administration under Donald Trump and others did. it was so much against them. I mean, you know, it almost couldn't turn out any other way. And, but the, the, the thing that, uh, I think is great is that, you know, finally, uh, I think people around the world are so grateful that Trump and them will have some balances because it's just been crazy. Uh, uh, you remember the phrase, the ugly American that used to, talk about the Americans that go abroad and they would act so hinky and haughty and whatnot. There was a phrase, ugly American. Well, people were saying that that's what people around the world are starting to call Americans when they travel. So, I mean, it's a situation to me where the country that promised so much hope they were turning into dope promises. Well, instead, I hope it was dope. If you, if you, you know, get what I mean, it was, it was definitely on the negative. And so I'm so happy that this has been at least reversed to some extent and more to do. And I think that, that people were asking me about, Indiana, you know, and the legislature and whatnot, I just kind of had a feeling that it was going to change because generally speaking, the people of Indiana, even though they might be miseducated or indoctrinated or whatnot, they will ultimately come to their senses, you know, and, you know, there's a saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that was what was happening because when it came to the fact that redistricting to just, you know, get rid of all the Democrats, people, people, you know, they, particularly in India, I'm thinking stuck in a crowd with a lot of people, and that was kind of like the final straw. So the Hispanic community, particularly, I think they realized that they had been wrong about the Trump administration and to that extent. And so I think that was all of these factors kind of came together and produced the result that we're seeing. But I would also like to congratulate you and the stations for what they did this year before the election in terms of educating people, you know, and other people that worked in the community, volunteers, students, It was just great. I think people just came together and they realized that we had to go in a different direction.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mr. Russell. I appreciate it. And we certainly do. But, you know, I can't thank voters enough because without turnout, none of this would be possible. If we didn't go, yeah, we get up and go to the polls. None of this would be possible. You know, so we did a lot of it.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: We meaning collectively everybody going out and doing their thing. and getting to the polls to vote. So I'm sorry, you were saying something, James?
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Speaker 7: No, no, I'm just going to say that, in fact, I was going to say something along those lines, that it is the young people, not just the young people, the older people voting, don't want to take anything away. But as I've said before, every election brings a new generation. There are people who are 14 who will be able to vote in four years. There are people who are 16 who will be able to vote in 2028. And each time it brings out a new, and I think as Americans, I think that we are becoming more, you know, despite what we're seeing in some places, in some high places, I think that we are trying to understand one another more, and that's what you saw last night is that, and like Mr. Russell said, it was a lot of things that brought us to this confluence, the terrorists, the war, you name it, indiscriminate and very, I think, very unmerciful immigration policy. Just a lot of things, grifting, you know, corruption, just a lot of things that came together. But people, even in the past, if those things would have occurred, they would have just held their noses and voted anyway. So, I mean, there are people who voted for Democrats who never did that before. And so I do believe that it's changing. The voting is changing. I do thank them, too. I thank the young people, and I thank the And especially, you know, the younger of the young, you know, I thank them because they are really changing our nation, if not the world here.
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Speaker 3: Everybody that got out and vote with everybody, like you say, including. And you're right, there is always a new voting block coming. We got calls. We got a lot of calls and we will get to you. If you can hear me, stay right there because we're coming. Yeah, we're coming right to you right after this break.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 3: And we are back with Community Connection. One day after stunning election results, and stunning I don't think is too strong of a word, because when you can surprise the number of people who have been surprised with the turnout and And the wins that were, you know, just across the board, you know, both here in Indiana. Now, Indiana's still red. You know, let there be no doubt about that. But the inroads that were made last night, Democrats making some history, you know, holding statewide office for the first time in more than a decade. And after more than a decade as well, the supermajority being broken at the statehouse, which is huge news. In a lot of areas, James, because we can we can talk about school funding. We can talk about, you know, we can talk about taxes. We can talk about a lot of things that that now that the supermajority has been broken, you know, we might be able to make some inroads with. So, yeah, that's huge. That's huge. Very big. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And yeah.
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Speaker 3: Wow, the guy, you know, Atlanta has a black governor. You know, Wisconsin, was it Wisconsin? Crowley has a black governor.
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Speaker 5: Don't get off of Atlanta, of Georgia too quick.
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Speaker 7: That is the first black woman governor in the nation's history. In the nation's history, there was a you know, there was a short period called Reconstruction, about 12 years at the end of the Civil War.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: And there were certainly a lot of blacks elected to Congress before they shut it down, completely shut it down. And there were some governors, too, who were black, but never a black woman who is. Governor of a state, which is Atlanta, Hartfield Airport, still the busiest in the world, or one of them. I mean, Keisha Lance Bottom is a Georgian. And so, you know, she got people to trust her governor. She was former mayor of Atlanta. And so, yeah, it's historic.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Dina. No, no.
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying there's so many historic. And I just I don't want Democrats to fumble the ball, though, because. I it feels like this wave tsunami, whatever you want to call it, has been more anti-Trump than it has been pro-Democrat, because the Democrats still get a fair share of criticism and rightfully so. You know, they're seen as not fighting, you know, not fighting the right fights and all kinds of other things. So they have been they've been handed a new lease on life, so to speak. And I hope. That they do right by it. I really, really do.
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 7: But there's there's there's a, you know, Democrats voted. I mean, they are loyal. They voted for people who were not, you know, from their community who are not black for since the beginning that they had to vote. They voted for people. So, you know, voting like we've been talking about is power. And that is the only thing that Mr. Trump understands in all of his his minions.
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Speaker 5: It's power.
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Speaker 7: And so that is why we keep preaching it is because we have to govern ourselves and work with others. We're willing to work with others. It's just that that cohort is not willing to work with anybody and they feel superior to everybody else based on their leader.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Just don't fall for the okey-doke, Democrats. Do not fall for the okey-doke. Do not.
00:32:52
Speaker 6: Do not.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phone lines.
00:32:55
Speaker 11: 317-480-1310.
00:32:55
Speaker 3: 317. 480-1310. Jeff, go ahead. How are you?
00:33:01
Speaker 5: Hey, Tina, James, Eric.
00:33:04
Speaker 9: How are you guys doing?
00:33:05
Speaker 3: Doing great. Doing great. You know, it's a it's a I wouldn't say celebratory mood that I that I'm in, but it's it's certainly an exhale, you know, like, OK, now we can start to to get back to work. But, you know, it's too early to celebrate too soon to celebrate. But you can certainly exhale and say, OK, now we can do something.
00:33:26
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:27
Speaker 9: Without trying to sound redundant, you know, I always say that the three products of government, I said, the executive, the legislative, and the judiciary. I said the most powerful one is the fourth one, the people. The people spoke last night. A total rebuke of Donald Trump and rejection of MAGA.
00:33:54
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:33:55
Speaker 9: I'm going to give a shout out to poor working class white people.
00:33:59
Speaker 5: They showed up. They showed up.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: I haven't seen all of the demos and the breakdowns and everything yet because I just haven't seen it. But you've seen that number or you've seen something to that effect?
00:34:12
Speaker 12: Okay.
00:34:12
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: You're thinking they had to have shown up.
00:34:16
Speaker 9: Okay, I see what you're saying.
00:34:18
Speaker 5: They had to.
00:34:18
Speaker 9: To win like that? Even Elon Musk, who spent nearly $ 6 billion of his own money to get Republicans elected, failed miserably, especially down there in Texas. And really, for the new elected governor of Georgia, she ain't the only woman. The new governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands A black woman.
00:34:44
Speaker 8: U.S.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: Territory.
00:34:46
Speaker 2: U.S.
00:34:46
Speaker 5: Territory.
00:34:48
Speaker 9: And, you know, and for Native Americans, New Mexico, Minnesota, and possibly Alaska. I think it's still pretty, hadn't been called yet.
00:34:57
Speaker 5: And in Mississippi.
00:34:59
Speaker 9: And then we got a senator, a new black woman from Illinois, who we just elected. Another senator. So we showed up.
00:35:10
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:35:10
Speaker 9: I tell you.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: And you know what, kid?
00:35:13
Speaker 9: James, I saw something. Even I.
00:35:17
Speaker 6: Tolerate.
00:35:18
Speaker 9: I try to get so much tolerance. I had to watch Fox News last night. It was better than Saturday Night Live.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: Okay. In what way, Jeff?
00:35:27
Speaker 8: Oh, man.
00:35:28
Speaker 9: I never seen so many depressed looking people in my life.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: I did not turn to Fox. I should have. I'll see some clips. I'll check out some clips.
00:35:36
Speaker 9: I mean, these people are still enablers of this man.
00:35:40
Speaker 12: Enablers.
00:35:41
Speaker 3: They have to stay the course.
00:35:42
Speaker 9: I mean, it was just excuses, excuses. Oh, the communism took over. Well, guess what? This was a great victory over fascism. It was a great victory over fascism. And a great victory over the oligarchs. Donald Trump wanted to set up an oligarchy, a plutocracy, a government for rich billionaire grifters. And, yeah, black folks, we need to pat ourselves on the back. But before, you know, but Byron Donald, uh-uh.
00:36:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's black.
00:36:15
Speaker 9: But you say, Tito, all skin folks ain't skin folks.
00:36:18
Speaker 2: No.
00:36:19
Speaker 12: I'm not going there.
00:36:20
Speaker 9: No, I'm sorry, James.
00:36:21
Speaker 2: I ain't going to do it.
00:36:22
Speaker 9: I ain't going to give him a hip-hip hurrah.
00:36:25
Speaker 5: Nope.
00:36:25
Speaker 3: I ain't going to do it.
00:36:27
Speaker 9: He carries the water for a racist agenda. I ain't doing it, Tito. You know. He's in the same category as Mickey Minaj, Stephen A.
00:36:37
Speaker 6: Smith.
00:36:38
Speaker 3: Donald is who, uh... What's his name? You were asking about who he was.
00:36:45
Speaker 12: Jolly. Jolly.
00:36:46
Speaker 3: David Jolly.
00:36:47
Speaker 6: Yeah, David Jolly.
00:36:48
Speaker 5: And you know what? And he only won.
00:36:50
Speaker 9: By skin of his teeth.
00:36:52
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:36:54
Speaker 9: Even the Republicans that won barely won.
00:36:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's the truth. It is the truth. It is the truth. I don't know. But it made you feel good that you made us collectively, I think, feel good that not only did we win, you know, right, we won big, and that we voted, you know, that we went out there and did our thing.
00:37:18
Speaker 9: People say that your vote don't count.
00:37:20
Speaker 5: Don't believe them.
00:37:21
Speaker 3: Don't believe them because it matters. I mean, look at that razor-thin race in Mississippi, of all places, where it shouldn't even be that close between a black man and a white woman. In Mississippi?
00:37:33
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:37:35
Speaker 5: No. The U.S.
00:37:38
Speaker 7: House vote by race, according to MSNOW, I just saw a graph, and it's the Democratic, the white vote was split between the Democratic candidate and the Republican candidate across the country for the U.S. House, 49% to 49%. The black voter gave the Democratic candidate 90% of their vote, 9% of the Black vote went to Republican candidates. Latino vote, 64% went to the Democratic candidate. 34% went to the Republican candidate. And lastly, the Asian vote, 71% went to the Democratic candidate, and 28% went to the Republican candidate, according to MSNOW.
00:38:25
Speaker 3: Okay, there you have it. There you have it.
00:38:27
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
00:38:35
Speaker 3: I guess projections were that Democrats here at home and across the country were going to do okay, possibly well. No one, I don't think, described what happened last night or could have described. Maybe James Carville after a couple of Jacks and Cokes, but Jack Daniels and Coke because he drinks through his podcast. But I think Carville might have been the only one, the only pundit that I've heard that felt like it was going to be as big as it is, as big as it ended up being. So, yeah. 317-480-1310. Josephine, go ahead. How are you?
00:39:13
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm just so happy.
00:39:14
Speaker 10: I stayed up to 2 o'clock in the morning just laughing and having a good old time.
00:39:18
Speaker 9: Oh, my gosh.
00:39:19
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:39:19
Speaker 5: Even Mississippi, I.
00:39:20
Speaker 6: Just couldn't believe it.
00:39:22
Speaker 10: I said, Mississippi? But anyway, I just want to– to, I know this may be kind of, I don't know. But anyway, I want to talk about the people here in the state of Indiana. My opinion why they vote Republican is because they are ignorant to the fact that's going on. I don't think they're stupid at all. I don't think they're unintelligent. I just think they're so rural and they're so far away from what's going on in the city and the capital of Indianapolis that they're just not aware. They just don't know. Anytime you have a county and you have to go to counties and you got a pregnant wife, you have to go to counties to get the health care that they need.
00:40:11
Speaker 5: They just don't.
00:40:12
Speaker 10: They're not aware of what's going on. I really believe that they're just not aware. And it's not that they're stupid. I don't believe they're stupid. I don't think that, oh, I'm going to vote Republican because I hate Democrats. I don't believe that's the truth. I believe that they're just alienated with what's going on at the governor and the state capitol. They just don't know the corruption and all that because I know someone who.
00:40:37
Speaker 9: Lives in a rural county.
00:40:41
Speaker 10: And she said she doesn't even get TV coming in from Indianapolis.
00:40:45
Speaker 5: She don't get nothing.
00:40:49
Speaker 10: So it's not like they just don't know the corruption going on. I don't think anybody with any sense would allow what's going on at the state capitol to go on unless something's wrong with them.
00:41:03
Speaker 3: Well, we had an entire nation that something was wrong with them because how many people are you going to allow to be over your money and your life that is a adjudicated sex offender, 34-count felon, and a whole lot more. I can't even go down the list. So somebody, you know, people don't know. People had to know certain things. But when you say nobody would let that go on, of course they would let it go on because they elected it. If you want to be truthful about they elected it and those who went out and physically pushed the button for him to to be elected. And those who stayed home and said it didn't matter who by default helped him to get elected. So, yeah, people there are people that will do that. I think there's another element, Josephine, that you say people just don't know. I think that people fall into habits and this is black, white, whatever. And if you if you have always voted Republican, you're just going to say, OK, well, whatever they do is fine. I mean, it's what I call the habit vote. And Indiana is notorious for that. That's why it stays so ruby red. But, you know, I just can't buy that people didn't know. or don't know, if they knew about the corruption, they would never have that happen. Yes, they did. They had a squeaky clean candidate, and then they had a candidate who was flawed like no other candidate that we've ever had in the history of the United States of America elections. That is the truth. And so how they didn't know that, how they didn't see that, and how they overlooked that and said, yeah, but... I don't think that's ignorance. I don't think that part is ignorance, Josephine. I don't. I think that's willful. whatever you want to call it. But I don't think that that is.
00:43:02
Speaker 10: I'm trying to plug in a positive for something that's negative.
00:43:08
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't people who simply don't know because there are people that are uninvolved. They just don't care. It doesn't matter to them.
00:43:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's some that are just not participating at all.
00:43:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just don't do it.
00:43:20
Speaker 7: And they won't vote. There is that group. But to what Josephine is saying... I think that there's a lot of miseducation out there. And like you said, Tina, they just do what they think the people in their community do. They do what they do.
00:43:37
Speaker 5: They don't try to.
00:43:38
Speaker 7: Find information that might challenge the prevailing thought of the people who live around them.
00:43:45
Speaker 5: They don't do that.
00:43:45
Speaker 10: That's exactly my– that's what I'm trying to say. That's exactly my point.
00:43:48
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. I think we're all saying, yeah, they're not going to look. Yeah, so– Absolutely. Okay. All right. Thank you, Josephine. Appreciate it.
00:43:59
Speaker 6: 317-480-1310.
00:43:59
Speaker 3: 317-480-1310. Joe, go ahead. How are you?
00:44:04
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, everyone.
00:44:06
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
00:44:07
Speaker 5: Afternoon.
00:44:08
Speaker 13: Glad to be speaking with you. I've been praying and prayers surely have been answered, but I'm not just calling for myself today. I'm calling because I belong to the Way Christian Church and And we really had some people were doing some great work. And my age anymore, I can't do that much of the great work, but I can surely support those that do. And one of the people were, you guys may not remember, because I usually get up early on a Saturday morning, and I would hear Reverend Brown show. And there's a guy, as a matter of fact, he was one of our older men, Brother Walls, and he was talking about definitely voting, and he was talking about things that young people should be doing.
00:44:50
Speaker 5: But he not only does.
00:44:52
Speaker 13: That, he has a group of young people that he gets together with at church and explained things, and he did a couple of workshops for us all so we could understand about voting better. And I really do thank God for also Sister Linda Everett. She, too, about most of October was in and out of our church doing work, you know, asking and telling people about voting, bringing in material.
00:45:21
Speaker 5: And, you know, like those things may not mean much to a lot.
00:45:25
Speaker 13: And then again, they do. But I'm one of the ones really today speaking out and thanking God for people like those people, because we truly, truly need more of that. And now, you know, like somebody said, yeah, we did it. But isn't there so, so much to do? And we do thank God for people that did do it because they really showed up and showed their way out this time and our way out. So again, let us continue to pray for one another and try to do what's going to be help and show more love for one another. So I just wanted to say that. And I thank you guys so much for allowing me to come on and have a blessed day. It's usually Joe, but today is Ethel, one of the ministers from the Way Christian Church. Thank you guys so much.
00:46:09
Speaker 5: That was a beautiful comment.
00:46:12
Speaker 7: Thank you.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:46:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:46:16
Speaker 3: You know, we all as a community have to come together. She makes a good point. Everybody.
00:46:20
Speaker 6: Everybody.
00:46:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what it's going to take, Tina, coming together.
00:46:24
Speaker 5: But you know what? Like you've been saying, I mean, I think you've been saying this in so many ways. They have to recognize that those people who follow a certain philosophy or political idea about how things should be, they have to realize they are not the only ones on this earth. You know what I'm saying? And so in that sense, you have to take your power, in this case, in our country, it's the vote, to show them that they just can't do whatever they want to do because the power is, by the Constitution, given to the people. It's of, by, and for the people, the Constitution.
00:47:06
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:47:06
Speaker 3: Indeed.
00:47:07
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:47:08
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. By the way, from from the time we first heard that the DOJ, the Department of Justice, Trump was sending election monitors to Lake County and Marion County. I kept scratching my head and like, why are if they're concerned about the elections, really concerned about the elections and really concerned about Republicans in the elections? Why are they not going to District five in Hamilton County? That's where they need to be, because that's where they're in trouble. I said it. I said it. I said it. And look what happened last night.
00:47:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:47:44
Speaker 3: So, no, I didn't I didn't I didn't know what the outcome was going to be. I just knew it was going to be tight. But it was also, to me, proof that you're not paying attention to the elections. You're trying to intimidate voters so that they do not get involved in the elections. And if there was ever a case of that, it played itself out last night in District five.
00:48:08
Speaker 5: Or J.D.
00:48:09
Speaker 7: Ford won against Victoria Sparks.
00:48:10
Speaker 3: Where J.D. Ford beat Victoria Sparks. I was just, it's like, why are they coming to Lake County and Marion counties? I knew why. But it was so disingenuous that we are concerned about the elections. If you're concerned, you better get yourself up there to, well, too late now. But anyway, too late now. Brother Man, go ahead. How are you?
00:48:35
Speaker 2: All right, how are you doing, Kenan, James, and Ed?
00:48:40
Speaker 7: Hey, brother man.
00:48:41
Speaker 5: How are you?
00:48:42
Speaker 2: You know, we be praying, and God listens. So he knew about these people. These people are trying to make us poorer than we are. If you want in your school, you put it in there. We're not giving you nothing. We're going to take this money and do it with it. So God heard him say it, and he took care of that for us. Racist people trying to hurt people that's down. And that's it. the way God does. I noticed that when I was working.
00:49:23
Speaker 5: In the U.S.
00:49:25
Speaker 2: That supervisor gave me a written apology and a verbal apology. So did all else's job was on the line. And these people like Ron and and Trump and all them, ain't nothing but devils. You know what? And he said, pray for your enemies. The prayer I put up wasn't very good, James, so I can't say I prayed for my enemy to do good. I prayed that God would take care of me.
00:49:58
Speaker 12: And he did.
00:50:01
Speaker 2: You can make love to men? I prayed for God to take care of them, and he did.
00:50:07
Speaker 7: He did indeed.
00:50:08
Speaker 5: Yes, sir. He did. He heard your prayer.
00:50:11
Speaker 7: And a lot of others.
00:50:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, y'all having.
00:50:18
Speaker 5: A good show. I love it.
00:50:20
Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you, brother man.
00:50:21
Speaker 5: Thank you, brother man.
00:50:22
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Appreciate it, appreciate it. So we can go to some of the.
00:50:28
Speaker 3: Some of the chat line here on YouTube. We must hold elected officials accountable. Too often we vote and then disagree. Real change requires us to stay informed, involved, and vocal. Accountability doesn't end at the ballot box. How many times have we said that?
00:50:44
Speaker 11: Absolutely.
00:50:44
Speaker 9: Yeah, keep rolling.
00:50:47
Speaker 3: I know what happened. I believe people voted their pocketbook. They were promised and lied to because President Biden wasn't good enough for them and Kamala Harris. They voted their pocketbook. Dionne Levingston is famous for that line, I vote my wallet. I'm an independent. I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. And if you ask how I vote, I vote my wallet. And maybe that's the pain that it took. Because I remember when Trump first got elected, Andre Carson said, until people feel a certain amount of pain, they aren't going to change or they're not going to pay attention. And he said, it's not going to be until that pain hits When folks take a look and say, whoa, wait a minute, this isn't what I bargained for. And so that comment probably goes along those lines. It's like, wait a minute.
00:51:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, he's a habitual liar. And so, you know, some people kind of glorified him because, you know, he was a businessman and supposedly made billions of dollars, you know, starting as a real estate developer and all of this and all of that. And he was so successful. He was a TV reality show star.
00:52:03
Speaker 3: Failed.
00:52:03
Speaker 5: And all this. Yeah, failed, right.
00:52:06
Speaker 7: And that's telling of his whole life.
00:52:10
Speaker 5: But you don't.
00:52:10
Speaker 7: Follow someone who is a liar who can't stop himself from lying. You're going to enable him. That was Victoria Sparks' problem. And all of those, too.
00:52:23
Speaker 5: And Todd Young and them are next.
00:52:25
Speaker 7: Because you don't enable folks and then turn around. And who was it that said they were watching Fox News and they were like just, you know, falling all over themselves to make excuses?
00:52:36
Speaker 5: Stop making excuses.
00:52:38
Speaker 7: And lastly, I want to say no matter what it was, it was that the terrorists, the lies that the, you know, hoodwinked and bamboozled, whatever, no matter what. The end result was he was going to lead all these people off a cliff, as I've said numerous times, and that's what happened.
00:52:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. I was going back and forth between MSNOW, CNN, and Fox News. Anchor just went, oh, the news anchor just went to go home. You should have watched it. It was comical. You know, it's interesting, you know, how different media outlets report on the same thing going on, the slant. That's put on there. Fox News has always been known to put a slant toward Donald Trump. And, you know, I'm sure that there are some excuses. I just haven't heard what the excuses are. I just haven't heard what they are. But, you know, Trump supporters and those who are still with him, good luck. I would be curious to hear what that thought is right now.
00:53:44
Speaker 9: You know?
00:53:45
Speaker 12: Hmm.
00:53:46
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, people are always looking.
00:53:49
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:53:49
Speaker 3: People are always looking.
00:53:50
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tina.
00:53:50
Speaker 3: No, you were saying what? People are always looking for what?
00:53:52
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they're always looking for some reason to, you know, to validate what they think. And so that's why they slant the news.
00:54:04
Speaker 5: They look for anything to validate when they know at the core, some of them don't care, many of them don't care, at the heart that they're wrong.
00:54:12
Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
00:54:15
Speaker 3: No, they do not. They do not. We'll be right back with more right after this.
00:54:32
Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
00:54:48
Speaker 3: And we're back with Community Connection. The day after the huge, huge Democratic performance In last night's midterm elections. I don't know. In some ways, I was just kind of speechless. I mean, I kept, you know, trying to. Did you have that reaction or what was your reaction, Eric?
00:55:12
Speaker 4: I was speechless like you.
00:55:14
Speaker 9: I was like, wow, this is happening.
00:55:16
Speaker 4: It's really happening. I had a feeling Bo Bai, I thought he would win. I knew he was going to win.
00:55:22
Speaker 3: I kind of had a feeling about that one, too.
00:55:23
Speaker 4: Some of the others, I was like, wow, I didn't expect that.
00:55:26
Speaker 3: And, um, Bo Bai, uh, being probably secretary of state.
00:55:31
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
00:55:32
Speaker 3: And the conversations have been beyond that. He may be the next, uh, governor of the state of Indiana, too.
00:55:38
Speaker 5: That's true.
00:55:39
Speaker 3: That's been discussed. It's been discussed a lot.
00:55:41
Speaker 5: It's quite possible.
00:55:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the similarities are just so stark. They are. I mean, as his dad, they were both in their 30s, early 30s, when they first ran for office. Secretary of state's office was the, the office, uh, You know, did that for two years and then ran for governor in two years. Mike Braun will be running for governor again. So it's a very real possibility. But we won't. Of course, Ryan Mears, you know, speaking of running for Ryan Mears, our Marion County prosecutor, he he won handily yesterday. And there is talk. about him running for mayor of the city of Indianapolis next year. He said on the show, when I asked him did he have aspirations to become the next mayor or to run for mayor, he said what any good politician's gonna say. I wanna focus on my, they will never tell you until they're ready to tell you, right?
00:56:36
Speaker 12: That's true, they will not.
00:56:37
Speaker 5: They will not.
00:56:38
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:56:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got him.
00:56:39
Speaker 7: You've already got a couple of police people in the race, right? Vop Osley.
00:56:43
Speaker 3: Vop Osley and- Osley, yeah. And- Andrea Hundley.
00:56:49
Speaker 7: Former state senator, correct?
00:56:52
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, former state senator, Andrea Hundley. Yes, indeedy, indeedy.
00:56:57
Speaker 7: Or is she current? Is she still in office?
00:57:02
Speaker 5: I don't know.
00:57:06
Speaker 3: I think she announced that she would not seek re-election, I think.
00:57:10
Speaker 5: Did she?
00:57:11
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, let's go to that.
00:57:13
Speaker 4: Check it out and see between the three of.
00:57:15
Speaker 5: Us, huh?
00:57:15
Speaker 3: Who gets it first? I need that music right now.
00:57:21
Speaker 12: Let's see.
00:57:29
Speaker 5: See, she represents District 46, right?
00:57:31
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:57:31
Speaker 6: In 2022.
00:57:32
Speaker 12: Yes.
00:57:32
Speaker 3: She's still in there.
00:57:34
Speaker 6: I was correct.
00:57:34
Speaker 3: She will not seek re-election. That's what she said.
00:57:37
Speaker 5: I got it.
00:57:39
Speaker 2: You got it.
00:57:39
Speaker 6: Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:57:40
Speaker 2: All right.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: We are correct. We got to get her on here, too, as well as anyone else. now that the election is over. But, you know, it's just so many races to go through where, you know, Democrat, what? Democrat, what? You know, all over the country here in Indianapolis, in the state of Indiana, the statehouse, things of that nature. You know, it's... James and Eric, what do you guys think? Do you think that this is something that will.
00:58:14
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, wake up Republicans in terms of their, uh, an unwavering loyalty to Donald Trump and Trumpism, you know, start with Braun and getting rid of DEI because of project 2025 and what Donald Trump wants, or do you think that they're going to ignore last night's results and continue business as usual? Do you think it'll make any difference?
00:58:37
Speaker 4: I think it would wake them up. It's like to go, Hey, you know, wait a minute, this really happened. Um, People aren't pleased. Gas prices, food prices, everything.
00:58:47
Speaker 6: Wars.
00:58:48
Speaker 4: So people, I would say they feel, and there are some in the party, Republican Party, who did go the other way. They split and decided to go with Democrats. So I think that that's very likely.
00:59:01
Speaker 3: What do you think, James?
00:59:03
Speaker 5: Well, I think that, you know, some of them stand out.
00:59:10
Speaker 11: Home.
00:59:10
Speaker 7: And as long as the party is led by this man, they're never going to get behind him because of what he's done, because he lied so much and he continues to lie. However, I don't think that that means the Republican Party is not viable anymore. It is, but they have to find somebody to lead them who will represent all the people, whether it's a Democrat or Republican. If you don't care about the people, you don't have any business of being up there.
00:59:39
Speaker 5: That's true. Now, I do feel like.
00:59:42
Speaker 7: This is a turning point. I don't feel like they're going to dominate people who want to oppress people. whatever color they are, if they want to oppress other people, I don't think they're ever going to be in power again. And I think I do think this is a turning point in that we've got something here because I think the younger people are not going to stand for it. And they're the ones who are coming up are going to be the next generation.
01:00:07
Speaker 6: OK, OK.
01:00:08
Speaker 5: Dr.
01:00:08
Speaker 4: Peen's granddaughter, she voted for the first time.
01:00:13
Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
01:00:13
Speaker 12: Yolanda Renee.
01:00:14
Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful.
01:00:15
Speaker 4: She expressed that voting for the first time is a very meaningful day.
01:00:19
Speaker 3: It always is. Very good.
01:00:21
Speaker 2: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:00:22
Speaker 3: What do you think? What are your thoughts regarding last night's elections and the results?
01:00:25
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:00:33
Speaker 3: The Democratic wave, the Democratic wave, even here in the state of Indiana. Indianapolis and Marion County, not so much of a surprise, but throughout the state, statewide offices. That's interesting because Bo Bai didn't get in office statewide with just Democratic votes.
01:00:51
Speaker 4: I didn't expect what happened in Hamilton County to happen.
01:00:55
Speaker 3: I was unsure. I was surprised by that.
01:00:58
Speaker 5: You know, they redrew that district.
01:01:02
Speaker 6: Yes!
01:01:02
Speaker 3: Wasn't that funny? But didn't we see that pattern in other places around the country?
01:01:08
Speaker 7: It backfired on them.
01:01:10
Speaker 3: Yes! They redrew these maps and it backfired. because yeah i mean you can group people however you want to group them but you can't make them you you can't tell people how they feel and how they should you just can't do.
01:01:22
Speaker 4: It i think i remember asking abdul that question when he was on with us tina what would happen if they were people to they read through the districts but what if they uh that's not going to make me and that's kind of what happened yeah.
01:01:34
Speaker 3: But speaking of which i i know abdul is supposed to join us at some point in time today he uh He's also a college professor and teaches classes, so he may be running a little bit late. So if we do hear from him, we'll get him right on. If not, we'll just save him for another day. Like I said, we've heard from a Democratic strategist. I'd love to hear from a Republican point of view.
01:01:56
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: Oh, okay. We have Larry.
01:01:57
Speaker 6: Larry, go ahead.
01:01:57
Speaker 9: How are you?
01:02:07
Speaker 3: Larry, did you vote in the election?
01:02:10
Speaker 12: I vote every time that the possibility comes up legally.
01:02:15
Speaker 3: I figured you did. Okay, that's good.
01:02:17
Speaker 12: I'm just happy for the Democrats that they won every night and they had the massacre last night. But, you know, that comes with a great responsibility because the first thing they're going to do when Akeem Jeffrey becomes the Speaker of the House is He has powers, but he don't have enough votes to overrule vetoes, so they're going to have to do some dealing. And I'm glad that that happened because we have a divided government right now. But here in the state of Indiana, I'm glad to see that the Democrats have got off their hands and start running somebody to break that supermajority in the– House of Representatives than our state, because that's been nothing but destructive to this ever since Mitch Daniels. A lot of the subjects that you bring up on this program is due to Mitch Daniels. What he done, he done major moves. That's why our infrastructure is falling apart. He done right to work. That's why our labor is being undermined here in this state. He done property tax caps. A lot of people just don't know about property tax caps. What happens is corporations don't pay any taxes whatsoever, and the General Assembly has no jurisdiction over them. So now we're being played a game with these referendums that the burden of– that's half of the budget, right, Dina, that is funding K-12 tax. in this state is being shifted to the backs of our property. That's never supposed to happen. You know, what it started out as, is the corporations were paying their taxes up front, and there wasn't so many 501c3s for them to shuck it off. You know, a corporation like Lilly's that gives all these grants and stuff, they need to pay their taxes up front. when they get the money, so we can have the money in our coffers. But they don't do that right now. They just shuffle it off and play it off, giving it to certain charities and stuff, and don't pay not one dime of taxes. It's economic, voodoo economics. Just like George Bush said, there's going to be no trickle down. The Democrats, I'm looking forward to seeing their performance in the House this year. I'm over there every year looking in on them, but they have... where they can stop some legislation if they get enough people in there that'll go along with them, but they definitely don't have as much power as they should have. The thing about it is, I remember when white right to work came, they were able to shut the whole show down to try to block it, but that destroyed our labor. Mitch Daniels is on the hook. I don't see why, but people are scared of him, you know? Him and Britt Hirschman... Pro Tem Long and Speaker Bosma and Luke Kenley engineered the tax caps here in this state. We're not going to go anywhere until they repeal that because you're going to have the budgets of these cities and towns. Cut back every year. You're going to have the common school fund being drained dry and just keep on going. And, you know, Andrew Hanley, she was one of the main people that that defunded IPS. Anyway, I think Brian Mears needs to run for mayor.
01:05:43
Speaker 3: Larry, here's my question of you. And you didn't really answer it the last time we talked. Are you considering running for political office during the next elections, which is coming up in 2027, including mayor? I'm running for mayor.
01:05:57
Speaker 12: I am going to run for mayor.
01:05:59
Speaker 3: Are you declaring it now? Are you saying now you're going?
01:06:03
Speaker 12: No, I'm not doing it. Well, you know what it is.
01:06:04
Speaker 3: You just said it.
01:06:06
Speaker 12: Well, I'm saying I'm running for mayor, but you know it's not official.
01:06:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not official until the paperwork is done.
01:06:21
Speaker 12: That cares about the people. Brian looks like he cares about people on a personal level.
01:06:26
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. And James, please, if you have a question for Larry. You say you're going to run. You've got to file the paperwork to make it official. On the positive side, Larry, what is it that you would do if you're mayor?
01:06:40
Speaker 12: Here's the main thing I would do, Tina. I would go to our Constitution where there's a mandate in the Constitution where any county, that's Marion County, We can set up asylum farms to deal with these homeless people and all these drug-addicted people that are in our streets right now, out there shrunk out on dopes. Sometimes they're going in front of a judge, just like you talked about criminalizing homelessness. You know, the attorneys from the city of Indianapolis, I see them over at the legislature all the time lobbying for certain things. They lobby for that. That's what they've done.
01:07:16
Speaker 3: James, do you have a question?
01:07:17
Speaker 12: You can look at Greg Taylor in the Senate. And look at Cherish Pryor and them over in the House of Representatives. They lobby for that.
01:07:25
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, James. If you have a question, if not, then we can move on.
01:07:28
Speaker 5: Go ahead. Yeah, just a quick question, Larry. I was intrigued by what you were saying about the taxes. So you're saying that the tax caps, and I saw, too, a lot of IPS's referendum passed, but a lot of others failed. So are you saying that the way that the taxes are construed now with the caps, that that's really hurting, as you call it, the common school fund or public schools?
01:07:56
Speaker 12: It's shifting the burden. When I ran for school board, I thoroughly researched it. You know how the schools are supposed to be paid for. You remember we used to get green stamps, James Peterson?
01:08:10
Speaker 11: Okay.
01:08:10
Speaker 12: Now, one stamp was 20 mils. That's a penny, 20 mils to make a penny, okay? So what they have the computer system set up now so that everybody, instead of forcing us to pay at gunpoint for the common schools, they had it where everybody paid in increments, like you go buy a loaf of bread, pay two mils for that. You buy something else, two or three meals, a graduated tax system where everybody contribute to the education because in 1851, that's what our Constitution set it up to be. So everybody was contributing. We have a common school fund now that has almost $ 3 billion, and they're trying to loot that right now. So you know, people need to be informed.
01:08:58
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay.
01:08:59
Speaker 12: Asylum farms.
01:09:00
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you.
01:09:01
Speaker 12: Asylum farms.
01:09:02
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Larry.
01:09:03
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
01:09:04
Speaker 12: Article 9, Section 3.
01:09:05
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Larry. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
01:09:09
Speaker 7: Tina, before you go to your next guest or your comment, just a little bit of breaking news from the Indianapolis Star just posted here. Let's see, September 4th, 131. So a little over 45 minutes ago, about 45 minutes ago, Indiana Democrats pick up second statewide race win with Comptroller.
01:09:31
Speaker 5: That's right. That's right.
01:09:32
Speaker 7: Thank you, Eric.
01:09:33
Speaker 5: With Comptroller.
01:09:34
Speaker 7: Republican Comptroller Elise Nishala, an incumbent, conceded to her Democratic challenger Jessica Bailey in a post to X today.
01:09:45
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:09:46
Speaker 7: Around midday. So making the auditors race the second statewide seat to flip from red to blue, you know, the first being the secretary of state, which we've been talking about, Bo Vai. Democrats won in a big historic night across the country. So just a little bit of breaking news there.
01:10:05
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, the hits keep coming, don't they?
01:10:08
Speaker 5: Yes, they do.
01:10:09
Speaker 3: Wow. And you know what? It also explains the long lines, don't you think? It explained people were just tired and wanted to say, though they were, they were tired and wanted to say something. Indeed. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. Nyla, go ahead.
01:10:27
Speaker 11: How are you?
01:10:27
Speaker 5: I am doing fine. I'm sorry. Yesterday I was in there and I was like, let me get into the polls. I had been to several locations to kind of look at what the poll was like. Weatherston didn't have anybody. Um, there was a place on Pia's right there off of, uh, um, 20, not 24th and Pia's. Jay didn't have anybody at the fire station. And, um, West Lane didn't have anybody. So that was my goal. But by the time I did that and was waiting on hold, I was like, you better go in there and go get these, uh, need an encyclopedia to surf, to sift through those questions that they were asking that I had heard about. But I was thinking even as, um, Larry was talking about the Article 9, Section 3 about common schools and all. I was thinking that is one of the things I'm hoping if– what's the attorney you're waiting to maybe hear from?
01:11:23
Speaker 3: Oh, Abdul. Yeah, Abdul Hakim Shabazz.
01:11:27
Speaker 5: Maybe he can bring some clarity over those different articles about the judges and about the– the one that they want to know if somebody had committed a treason or murder and all that.
01:11:40
Speaker 3: Oh, question one. Yeah, amendment. Yeah, constitutional amendment, question one.
01:11:44
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:11:45
Speaker 5: No, question one was about giving IPS more money.
01:11:49
Speaker 3: No, question one. Question one was about bail. The referendum was further down in the ballot. It was public question number one.
01:11:59
Speaker 12: Oh, wow.
01:11:59
Speaker 3: Now, that's And then it was public.
01:12:01
Speaker 5: Because it was first on mine, you know, but they would talk about these little glitches. But that question was first.
01:12:07
Speaker 3: On my IPS referendum was the first question.
01:12:10
Speaker 5: It was the first one. I was at school. Sixty one. That was my last time.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: I've never. That's the first I've heard that because it's supposed to be across the across the entire state. You know, Indiana State public question number one and Indiana State public question number two.
01:12:29
Speaker 5: Okay. Well, this is really, really, really strange. And it could be. You know, that's one of my areas where I'm going, why are you guys trying to give them some more money? Alicia is sitting there. She knows she loves charter. She came from charter. And I'm talking about Ms. Johnson. And everything she does is a charter focus. And it's my hope, because why are we just like they have the new board now?
01:12:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was IPEC.
01:12:57
Speaker 5: Here you are paying $ 300, 000 to the new person. She makes $ 200, 000 or close to $ 300, 000 herself. So why is over half a million going to these two folks when they're dismantling the district?
01:13:15
Speaker 3: I don't think... Yeah, I don't think Superintendent Johnson has any control over that. I think that there were, you know, some others that were criticized for setting the salary price points as high as they did for not only the IPEC.
01:13:29
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about her tendency to continue to give our schools over to charter schools. You know, everybody has to remember that was her job. She, that was when she was under, when she was under therapy, she was over the innovative schools. She was the one coming saying, yes, this one needs to go to charter. And I, you know, I was there when they gave 42 away. The biggest contention I had with 42 was the fact when they took Ignite out, because that's who had 42. When they took 42 out, Then they were getting ready. They said they're not coming up to par. Let's get Ignite out of 42. So as superintendent of the Indianapolis Public Schools, she should have put in IPS administration. Did that happen? No. It's under Liberty Grove. They put in another charter. So that within itself, no stand for your own administration, no stand for your own IPS administration. teachers and classroom assistants, custodians, all the people that make the school run. You did not put your people in. You put in another charter. You did not advocate for putting in your own people. You put in another charter. That's why she needs to GO, because she's been complicit in all of this stuff, and she's assisted in it. She even made mention of talking about, they're talking about she got enrolled in this, she's no longer enrolled in this. You know, Enroll Indy sat right there in the IPS building up until last year. So you didn't advocate to get them out, to stop letting our attendance, our enrollment go to, because it's Enroll Indy blanket. They're a blanket enrollment. They can send you anywhere that they claim they're helping you send you to the best choice for you and your child. No, you are part of dismantling the district. So I'm tired of her getting this passed. Because she's working right along, right along with all the folks that are dismantling the district. And she's handing them the hatchets, sharpening the hatchets, and using the hatchets herself. So I'm going to continue to say that because the district has been totally drained of almost all its resources. The other thing I want to talk about on the amendment, I mean on this, give the money to IPSC. Several people have overlooked that, the money they're talking about. The charter is supposed to get like 48, and IPS is supposed to get 46. So already you're giving them more. Secondly, what people are overlooking, IPS is already doing transportation for them. IPS is already giving them a building. IPS also helps when they need special ed educators, because a lot of times the charters don't take the special ed kids. So that folds back under the IPS umbrella. So I'm really just so tired of the fact that we watched this district get chopped into pieces, and it has yet continued. But I'm so excited the Democrats have gotten it where there's no supermajority going on. And as several people have already said, now let's say get to work. Let's not take this time and let it be wasted because these bills that chopped the district up, other bills can be put up where we can get things fixed. And when you're talking about the money that they give in vouchers, you can make over $ 150, 000 a year and still get a voucher to send your child to private school. That's another drain. So it's like, let's keep, while we're watching this mental public education, they're still making stuff for the wealthy to get over. And that's the thing that we have to understand as we look at talking to our legislators, going down to those meetings. And I was really glad to hear that Larry was on point today and I haven't been able to hear as much. But the information he gives about these articles and Indiana law and all of that, I think he almost has a whole long library. So when he's not way out with that other stuff, he comes right to the table for good information. Larry, I just have to say thank you. And those people that have asked me to call, I haven't gotten there yet, but I will hopefully for this week get those folks called.
01:18:02
Speaker 6: Thank you for.
01:18:03
Speaker 5: What you do, Eric. Thank you for what you do. All that you do, Tina, all the other gentlemen that work with you as well, all of that work, it helps us get information to one another. Because what we have going on, we have to be more informed. We have to know what's going on in our schools, in our homes. and all of our life events. And definitely stay prayerful, because we got, just like right now, I don't know if you guys have talked about it, because I want to get to hear you here and there, but have they talked about the 90-day, where they're talking about the grids going out? They've been telling the military to prepare for 90 days for everything to be shut down. So for the people who are not getting ready for this winter, as far as stocking up on things and all of that, not trying to scare you. But please be aware that Iran is not playing with the crazy stuff Trump did. And so we need to be more mindful in preparation, you know, not no scare tactics, just being realistic over what can happen with cyber attacks and all those kinds of things. And so maybe you can have somebody that can come in And just talk to people about, you know, making those kinds of preparations. It's not shocking. You know, even in the Bible, there's a point when they knew a famine was coming for seven years. They made preparations for it. So I thank you, Tina.
01:19:28
Speaker 3: Nyla, if I can, and thank you. Thank you for calling. We have a listener who would like to get in touch with you. So if you could stay on the line, Eric is going to pass along their information to you. Okay.
01:19:44
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:19:44
Speaker 3: So yeah, don't hang up. All right. Thanks for, thanks for getting back.
01:19:48
Speaker 5: Thank you.
01:19:48
Speaker 3: All right. Thank you. All right.
01:19:50
Speaker 5: I said, thank you too. I didn't say it.
01:19:53
Speaker 3: He's right here. You're welcome.
01:19:55
Speaker 7: You're always so, you're always so welcome. You're always so knowledgeable.
01:19:59
Speaker 5: Thank you.
01:20:00
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
01:20:02
Speaker 5: All right.
01:20:03
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
01:20:05
Speaker 5: All right.
01:20:06
Speaker 9: Thank you.
01:20:06
Speaker 3: Bye bye. And just got this from Abdul. He's stuck in a news conference. He said, let's chat tomorrow. I'll have better content. So it sounds like he's going to have more information tomorrow. We all will have more information tomorrow.
01:20:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, that works.
01:20:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it works for me too. Tomorrow or Friday, Noah and Abdul, it's whenever we can get to him. Whenever we can get to him, indeed. Let's take a quick break right here, James, and come back with that. Boy, I cannot believe we're coming down the homestretch already.
01:20:34
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
01:20:34
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indie IndieGo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
01:21:02
Speaker 3: And we are back this day after the big day. James Patterson, our contributing analyst, is with us, as is our producer, Eric Garnet.
01:21:13
Speaker 6: Hello.
01:21:14
Speaker 3: Hello, hello, hello. I guess I'll get my feeling back. I still feel kind of numb. You know, it's hard to.
01:21:22
Speaker 1: Huh?
01:21:23
Speaker 5: Pinch her, pinch her.
01:21:24
Speaker 3: Pinch me, it's just.
01:21:25
Speaker 4: I'll have to run over to the studio.
01:21:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's that I psych myself up into thinking, don't expect too much, you know. Expect little and you're seldom disappointed is kind of the mindset there. So I was just, you know, expecting it to be pretty even. I don't know how many of us could have expected that. Like I said, other than James Carville, who was behind a couple of cocktails.
01:21:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, James Carville. He's always been unique.
01:21:51
Speaker 3: You know, the most interesting thing about him is his marriage because he's a staunch Democrat and he married a staunch Republican. And they were both bigwigs in their party at the time. That's right. And they made it work for years. It worked for years. They just said they never discussed politics at home and the rest of it was their marriage. So it worked out. Still married. I think they're still married.
01:22:15
Speaker 5: Wow.
01:22:16
Speaker 11: Yeah.
01:22:16
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:22:17
Speaker 5: It can be done.
01:22:18
Speaker 3: So I hear. Shows it can be done. So I hear. So I hear. Indeed.
01:22:29
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
01:22:30
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
01:22:30
Speaker 3: You know, last night's results sure made you feel good, though, about getting out there, getting involved in voting and saying something. I don't care. You know, the first time, third, whatever, you have to feel good about wearing that sticker proudly, you know, I voted.
01:22:43
Speaker 5: I voted.
01:22:46
Speaker 7: And it shows you, Eric, Tina, what we've been preaching year after year, that the power of the vote, the power of the vote can change lives, and it changed lives all across this country. We said it in just the last half an hour, the last segment, Indiana Democrats not only elected Beau Bayh, I think that I read that the first Democrat elected since in the last.
01:23:16
Speaker 5: What was it?
01:23:16
Speaker 7: It's been over 10 years. I think it's been– it's definitely been over 10 years, first statewide. They picked up today a second statewide race by electing a controller, the controller, the state controller. So that means that although the Democrats hold the attorney general's office– For this next cycle, and let me see, was it Comptroller, the Secretary of State, Attorney General, what's the other one statewide? But it means that Democrats will have a significant toehold on power in the state. Oh, okay, yeah, the governors and the Attorney General with Republicans, but the Secretary of State and the Comptroller's office, those are two powerful offices, two powerful offices. And they are now with the opposite party. So you don't have one party just running roughshod over everybody else.
01:24:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:24:18
Speaker 3: Democratic challenger Jessica Bailey wins for Indiana State Comptroller, defeating incumbent Republican Elise Nishala in the November election. She beat her by 45,000 votes.
01:24:33
Speaker 5: Ooh.
01:24:33
Speaker 6: Wow.
01:24:33
Speaker 5: Wow.
01:24:38
Speaker 3: That's what it says.
01:24:40
Speaker 5: 45,000.
01:24:40
Speaker 3: 45,000 votes.
01:24:42
Speaker 6: Wow.
01:24:42
Speaker 5: Man.
01:24:43
Speaker 3: That had to be deliberate.
01:24:44
Speaker 9: That is.
01:24:46
Speaker 3: Had to be deliberate. And we love it, you know, because people are thinking, you know, they're going down the ballot. I'm a little confused, though. We might like to ask somebody about how Nyla's ballot showed the referendum before.
01:25:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I chose.
01:25:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, the referendum before the public question one and two.
01:25:04
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:25:05
Speaker 3: That's a good point, yeah. Got to figure that out.
01:25:10
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Becky, go ahead. Do you have a comment or a question?
01:25:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, just saying that I was an inspector yesterday, and it was a good day. You know, everybody was cordial no matter what happened. I never saw the questions as more than one was about bail. Two was about the....
01:25:33
Speaker 3: Judges, residency, residency requirements for judges.
01:25:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then, of course, because people can vote anywhere in the county, every so often somebody was looking and going, where's IPS on here or where's this candidate or something? And I'm like, well, depending on where you live, you may not have had that question on your ballot.
01:25:53
Speaker 12: You know.
01:25:54
Speaker 5: But it looks like it was a great day for democracy and around– They said that every state that did Trump's bidding and had redistricted their, you know, gerrymandered, every single one of those went Democratic. Is that right?
01:26:17
Speaker 3: That's funny.
01:26:17
Speaker 5: That's a downy.
01:26:19
Speaker 3: That is, yeah.
01:26:20
Speaker 5: And so I think that's hilarious that, you know, and to think that Elon Musk spent, you Over $ 250 million in one state. And it still didn't go the way they wanted it to go, you know. Think of how.
01:26:38
Speaker 3: Many more families could have been able to stay on health care.
01:26:41
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about that all morning and everything.
01:26:45
Speaker 3: All the things you.
01:26:46
Speaker 5: Could have done to make the world a better place for everybody.
01:26:49
Speaker 3: And wanting power and control.
01:26:51
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:26:51
Speaker 11: Yeah.
01:26:52
Speaker 5: And the Democrats, you know, while I'm celebrating and everything, they've got a huge pressure on them now.
01:27:00
Speaker 3: Yes, they do.
01:27:02
Speaker 5: They've got two years to at least try and write some of the ship or something enough, because if they if they fail. It doesn't matter who they're going to put up on that ballot. They'll probably lose or it'll be easier for them to lose. Yeah, because they'll say we gave you all a chance and you still didn't. You know, nothing's any better than it was before. And but I I hope that and I know it's not going to happen. Everybody has said this, too. They look at me and go, that's not going to happen because power and money are just too enticing, I think. they've got to put the Constitution and the government and the people ahead of self. And that's where they're going to fail us, I think. They need to put in, like, term limits. There need to be term limits. They need to put in an age limit. 75 is more than enough in all of the jobs, including the Supreme Court. At 75, we thank you for your service, and it's time to go. and find another way to serve if you still want to be in public service like that. And they need an HR department that has teeth. And if you're out for any reason for more than 30 or 60 days, you have to take a cognitive test to prove that you can come back and do your job. You know, when you're doing a job that affects the whole country and the world like this, you know, They need an HR department, and I know they can still mess with that, but they need an HR department that has... teeth, and they need to report to us on a monthly basis their attendance and what they voted on and what they didn't, so that we can say, hey, they were in session for 90 days, and our person was only there for 45. Where were the other 45s? They did 50 votes, and they were only there for 20. Where were they for the other 30 votes? Because most of the time we don't know about that until it's election time, and it's their opponent that's telling us.
01:29:12
Speaker 3: Well, I think that some of that is tracked online on the daily, on the regular. Am I correct, James?
01:29:17
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:29:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they're in session, you can go and see what they're doing and who votes.
01:29:23
Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
01:29:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, and people like us, you know, we pay close attention to that. They've got C-SPAN where you can.
01:29:29
Speaker 5: Actually watch the House in session.
01:29:32
Speaker 7: And the Senate in session. Well, I know what you're saying. You make a lot of good points, Becky. You know, the people need more transparency because people were... One of the things that was high up on the list was corruption, and people are just not going to put up with that.
01:29:44
Speaker 5: No, they'll retire of it, and So we'll see what happens, and I just hope they do the right things and do some things to protect the Constitution because this guy has just ran ramshackle over it. And I keep telling people I'm going to start the GoFundMe to tear down the big, ugly ballroom. And you're welcome to pay, you know, give some money to help us do it. But, yeah, I think those are the main things. And, Larry, thank you when you ran for school board because he brought so many. He would call in on your show now, but Community Connection. And he would call in when they did the debates and stuff. He was the only person up there telling the truth about a lot of the stuff that was going on. I was a teacher at the time, and he was talking about all the stuff I already knew about. And he would call in. I remember sometimes the person running was on your show, not your show, but Community Connection. And they'd call in, he'd call in and ask questions.
01:30:56
Speaker 3: My show is Community Connection.
01:30:58
Speaker 5: But, you know, before you, it was.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay, I got you.
01:31:03
Speaker 5: That's what I meant, because that was a while back.
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Okay, got you.
01:31:06
Speaker 5: But he would call in and ask a question, because what was it, that red schoolhouse thing, or somebody was trying to load up the board with people. You know, there were operatives that were trying to get onto the board. And he would come in and call or whatever it was and just bring out these facts. And the other person, like if it was over the radio, you could just feel the other person's eyes getting big like he's not supposed to talk about that. And I really think it changed everything. I think it really made a difference in that election at that time. Thank you, Larry, for that one.
01:31:45
Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Becky. Appreciate it. And thanks for all you've done during the election and beyond and for future elections as well. So thank you for staying involved. Appreciate it.
01:31:55
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:31:56
Speaker 3: DJ, go ahead.
01:31:57
Speaker 5: How are you?
01:31:57
Speaker 6: Good.
01:31:57
Speaker 11: Hello?
01:31:57
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:31:57
Speaker 3: Hello. I'm doing good, Gina. How are you? I'm doing okay. Thank you.
01:32:00
Speaker 12: Thanks.
01:32:10
Speaker 9: I appreciate your effort in demanding people to get out and vote. Your commitment is incredible, how you do that.
01:32:16
Speaker 5: And I'm grateful for you.
01:32:17
Speaker 12: Well, thank you.
01:32:18
Speaker 7: Thank you for demonstrating that.
01:32:21
Speaker 9: I'd like to say, though, the thing I think we need to focus on as people in the United States is they have to abolish these Israelis giving money to our legislatures. There's over 500 out of 580 are receiving AIPAC money. And they're both sides, like Schumer and Jeffries. They're all getting... So it's killing us. And then the second thing is they need to abolish Citizens United. And it's like Musk gave $ 500 million to try to get Tallarico beat. That has to end.
01:32:58
Speaker 5: They can't let.
01:32:59
Speaker 9: You know, how about just the small mom and pops, like, you know, giving the cash instead of these allegorics?
01:33:05
Speaker 5: And.
01:33:06
Speaker 9: The other thing is, like, the man from Michigan that won in Tallarico, they don't accept AIPAC money. But as soon as they find dirt on them, just like the Democrat that the guy from Michigan defeated, she receives AIPAC money. She came out and just, you know, condemning him. And the national, not the media, the oligarch media control, they would not let it go, like, three days before the election. And then Graham Planner from Maine, no APAC money. Small dirt came out of him, and they just couldn't resist it. So I think those are the two things, you know, in your effort at getting people to vote.
01:33:48
Speaker 5: And no apathy.
01:33:49
Speaker 9: You have to do it. Because like those on Halloween in Huntington, Indiana, there was two people riding KKK outfits on horses.
01:33:59
Speaker 12: They vote.
01:34:01
Speaker 9: And so anybody that says your vote don't count is they're voting. So you got to keep voting. So I just think that, you know, what you've done is great. And I think it is helping, especially the younger people.
01:34:16
Speaker 3: OK, well, thank you, DJ. I appreciate it.
01:34:18
Speaker 11: All right.
01:34:19
Speaker 3: And for those of you. All right. Thank you. For those of you not familiar, when he mentions AIPAC, he's talking about AIPAC stands for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. It's an influential pro-Israel lobbying group in the United States. And I'm not sure how campaign finances, that's an interesting question because that's come up a few times before. And I'm not sure how campaign finance dictates who or how much or, you know, whatever you can, you know, take money from.
01:34:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, normally it does.
01:34:56
Speaker 7: It has a huge influence.
01:34:58
Speaker 5: He was right.
01:34:59
Speaker 7: I think Becky said over $ 250 million or we said it. was spent by Elon Musk in one state, and I think she was talking about, I know she was talking about Texas. And then DJ says that it was $ 500 million, whatever it was, it was an astronomical amount. And the Supreme Court allowed that in a recent decision to allow what they call super PACs, super PACs, Tina?
01:35:27
Speaker 12: Yes, yes.
01:35:28
Speaker 7: To spend an exorbitant amount.
01:35:31
Speaker 3: A PAC is a political action committee. That's what a PAC is. The PAC is a political election committee. Go ahead.
01:35:36
Speaker 7: Exorbitant amounts of money with no restraints, hardly any records, just money coming down from the sky and no accountability. And I agree that there should be some because that leads to corruption. And I also agree with DJ's comment about you've got to keep going. And I agree. I think if this showed anything, it shows that you can't sit out any elections, none, zero. This has to be ingrained in the culture of people, our people, that we need to vote each and every time we have that opportunity. It's just a moral and civic responsibility and duty, and we cannot let it go.
01:36:24
Speaker 3: Can't sit out anything. Cannot, cannot, cannot. So, but yeah.
01:36:31
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:36:32
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, and he said, and it was interesting, he said, you know, because you're trying to make a point about the two guys riding on horseback in Little Huntington, Indiana on Halloween.
01:36:40
Speaker 3: I saw a video of that. Did you see that online? Did you see that, Eric?
01:36:44
Speaker 4: I missed that one.
01:36:45
Speaker 5: I didn't see that.
01:36:46
Speaker 3: I heard about it.
01:36:47
Speaker 5: That's the first time I heard about it.
01:36:49
Speaker 9: No, I saw it.
01:36:49
Speaker 6: I didn't see it.
01:36:51
Speaker 3: I saw it. It was supposed to be Halloween. It was Halloween night. And it looked like a Klan rally.
01:36:57
Speaker 2: Wow.
01:36:58
Speaker 3: Fire, you know, fire burning.
01:36:59
Speaker 5: Well, his point was they vote. And so if we take off next year in the municipal elections, they're going to try to reverse the gains that we.
01:37:10
Speaker 6: Made last night. Can't let up.
01:37:12
Speaker 5: You better believe they're going to try to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:15
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm saying Democrats should not fumble the ball. They should not, you know, go for the old okey doke like, hey, let's shake hands and let. Have they been working like that with you prior to that when they were totally in control? No, no, no, no, no, no. And they won't. No, they won't. They won't. And if you've learned nothing, you should have learned that you're not dealing with statesmen. You're dealing with folks with an agenda and a plan. 2025, Project 2025. These folks have an agenda and a plan that is written down. I always love the when Kamala Harris was here in Indianapolis campaigning and talking about Project 2025. She was there at the podium and said, can you believe they put this in writing? Can you believe they put it in writing? But yes, they did. Right out there for the whole world to see. They're not making any bones about what they want and how they want it, how they want it. You know, the other thing, James, I was a little and Eric, I was a little concerned about. After last night, I know my mind goes probably too fast, too far ahead. The judges, uh the supreme court judges there have been rumblings uh you know here and there that alito might step down might retire and uh if they retire any of them retire now um they probably i don't know could they get this um nomination through before trump I mean, before the new Congress takes over in January. See what I'm saying?
01:38:51
Speaker 7: What nomination is that, Tina?
01:38:54
Speaker 3: A nomination of the Supreme Court. Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are the two that I'm thinking. And to preserve that conservative wing, I've just been concerned that they may go ahead and retire before the new Congress comes in, because theoretically... if they retire after the new Congress is in and Trump nominates someone, they're not going to get a nominate, you know, that, that Senate and you know, it's not going to go through because of the partisan, you see what I'm saying? Politics.
01:39:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, in.
01:39:30
Speaker 7: Practicality, they could, I mean, they could, they have the votes to do it. However, in, in, in reality, I don't think it'll happen because, Something shifted last night. This was not only, what do you call it, Eric, a blue wave.
01:39:50
Speaker 5: A tsunami. It's a mandate, okay? It's a mandate. It's like we reject the way we're going. It's a mandate.
01:39:59
Speaker 7: So that, in my view, should impact them as well. I think it would be very difficult for them to push somebody through right now. Although, like you said, in theory... They have the votes to do it. They only need a simple majority. Just getting somebody on the Supreme Court doesn't require the filibuster of 60. But I wanted to say that you guys were also saying about– What did she say? You said about Kamala Harris. Did you say, can you believe they put that in writing? And it reminds me of that movie I sometimes mention, Mississippi Burning, where Gene Hackman, who was an FBI agent, he.
01:40:39
Speaker 5: Said, these people crawl out of a sewer. William Defoe, Mr. Ward, Mr. Ward, they crawled out of a sewer.
01:40:48
Speaker 7: So that's the way we have to look at it.
01:40:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:40:52
Speaker 6: Well, yeah.
01:40:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that if lawmakers are smart, they would not push ridiculous nominees through, especially after what just happened. Because, you know, anybody that he recommends for the Supreme Court or nominates is going to be from the ridiculous to the sublime. I mean, it's just going to be a ridiculous person. So but I just wonder about that, that power play, trying to get that power play in, you I don't see any of his nominees if anybody retires over the next two years when the new Congress is in. I don't see how any of the nominees are going to get through.
01:41:33
Speaker 5: None of them.
01:41:34
Speaker 3: None of them would. Yeah. So would would it would they try to rush one or two through right now?
01:41:40
Speaker 5: And unless, you know, unless he picked one that was, you know, sort.
01:41:45
Speaker 3: Of moderate middle of the road.
01:41:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:41:47
Speaker 9: Moderate.
01:41:47
Speaker 7: Somebody that would be acceptable. To the majority that he will face in Congress.
01:41:52
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
01:41:52
Speaker 3: Trump doesn't roll like that. Uh-uh, no.
01:41:55
Speaker 12: No.
01:41:56
Speaker 3: Would Project 2025 want to put somebody moderate or middle of the road in there? The authors of Project 20—no.
01:42:02
Speaker 12: No.
01:42:04
Speaker 3: I don't see it, but I could be wrong. I don't know. My mind's going too fast. I'm thinking too far ahead.
01:42:08
Speaker 5: So I hope.
01:42:11
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen. So and I but I don't think that this is going to mellow the administration. I think it's kind of they're like a self mutating virus. They'll just look for another way. They're going to look for another way to do what they can do to do what they want to get away with.
01:42:27
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:42:28
Speaker 5: This morning he was already, you know, he's like, you know, if I'd have been on the ballot, this wouldn't have happened.
01:42:32
Speaker 3: Well, you said to vote like I'm on the ballot, and they did.
01:42:35
Speaker 6: That's what he said.
01:42:36
Speaker 3: And what was that they were saying this morning? You're fired. We voted. Yeah, you're fired.
01:42:41
Speaker 5: We did.
01:42:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. There you go. But, you know, he's a professional liar. So he's going to say he didn't say vote like I'm on the ballot. He also said cheat like you know what.
01:42:55
Speaker 12: He did.
01:42:56
Speaker 3: He did say that. He told him to cheat.
01:42:58
Speaker 7: President of the United States is promoting cheating. Really an honorable position there.
01:43:05
Speaker 3: But there are those that say, hey, that's my man.
01:43:11
Speaker 10: Right?
01:43:12
Speaker 12: Lead by example, I guess.
01:43:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, lead by example. Anyway, well, we're going to continue this because as Abdul did say, Abdul said, we're going to learn more by the day with each passing hour. I would suspect that between now and six o'clock tonight, we're going to have some new revelations. So we'll stay on top of it for you. But overall, let's give everybody that voted, everybody within the sound of our voice, let's give them a big round of applause because we are so, so happy.
01:43:39
Speaker 5: You get it.
01:43:40
Speaker 3: So, so happy. So, so proud of everybody that went to the polls. Oh, it's a double one. Yeah. Take a bow.
01:43:47
Speaker 11: Take a bow.
01:43:48
Speaker 12: Take a bow.
01:43:49
Speaker 3: We got work to do. Still a lot of work to do.
01:43:51
Speaker 5: Work to do. Work to be done.
01:43:53
Speaker 3: But we're going to do our part. We're going to continue to do our part. We thank you for doing yours. That was a beautiful thing that happened.
01:43:59
Speaker 5: Oh, wasn't it beautiful?
01:44:01
Speaker 10: It just warmed your heart.
01:44:02
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:44:02
Speaker 9: Oh, my goodness.
01:44:03
Speaker 7: I was trying to go to sleep. I was trying to go to bed, Eric.
01:44:05
Speaker 5: I couldn't get to the bedroom. I couldn't make it.
01:44:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't either.
01:44:09
Speaker 4: It was up until past midnight.
01:44:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.
01:44:13
Speaker 3: The last time I remember seeing the clock, it was about 2.30, something like that.
01:44:17
Speaker 9: Oh, you were up early.
01:44:18
Speaker 3: You were up early. Doing this. Here, okay.
01:44:21
Speaker 5: Right.
01:44:21
Speaker 3: People texting or calling, you know, texting, calling, texting. Can you believe? And my father was one of them because he said, I'm up past my bedtime, but I just had to let you know.
01:44:31
Speaker 1: I had to check it out.
01:44:33
Speaker 5: I had to, daughter.
01:44:34
Speaker 3: I had to. And that was around midnight. So I said, I know. What's wrong, Daddy? It was around midnight. But but he called and he was he said he couldn't stop watching the returns. But it was just.
01:44:48
Speaker 9: A thing of beauty.
01:44:49
Speaker 5: I mean, your dad's like he came through the time, right?
01:44:53
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
01:44:53
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:44:54
Speaker 3: He talks about when he they integrated the high school basketball team that he and his cousin, when they would go out to eat, you know, out of town games, he and his cousin had to take their meals on the bus because they weren't allowed in. in the same restaurant as the rest of the team. So, yeah, he's been through it.
01:45:10
Speaker 6: He knows. He's been through.
01:45:11
Speaker 3: You know, go to the movie theater and have to sit in the balcony, although I don't know if that's any punishment or not because a balcony seat is a good seat. But they didn't want the Negroes down there with the white people, so the Negroes had to be, you know, segregation. Yeah, yeah. He and my mother both told me many stories. I'm sure your parents.
01:45:32
Speaker 4: And family told you all about it.
01:45:33
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I heard stories, too. Yeah, yeah, so they know. They know. But anyway, that is all the time we have for right now. As always, thank you, thank you, thank you for listening. Thank you for voting. Thank you again for voting. We really appreciate it.
01:45:49
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed.
01:45:51
Speaker 3: Our website, praiseindy.com. Willie Moore Jr. on the radio is up next. Please continue. Be safe. Be well. And by all means, please continue to stay informed. For everyone here, I'm Tina Cosby, and you've been listening to Community Connection.
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Speaker 3: And good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby. Today is Wednesday, November the 4th. It is the day after, Eric, the day after.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the day after the wave.
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Speaker 3: The wave.
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Speaker 5: The blue wave.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the blue wave.
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Speaker 4: That's what I've been hearing, the blue wave.
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Speaker 3: I heard blue tsunami.
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Speaker 5: Blue tsunami?
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Speaker 6: Oh, okay, tsunami.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. That is the number to the show. Lines will be open throughout. On our show today, what else? What we just said. It is the day after the midterm elections. Democrats have won big, both here at home and really big across the country. We're going to be talking about that throughout the course of the show today. Let's go ahead and bring in Our contributing analyst, James Patterson. James, are you awake? How'd you do?
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Speaker 5: I'm indeed awake. Barely, though.
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Speaker 7: I was up late last night. But like Eric said, most commentators are saying a blue wave.
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Speaker 5: However, Tina, you were right.
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Speaker 7: Hakeem Jeffries has already called it a blue or a tsunami.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, both of them work here.
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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us could have predicted what happened last night in terms of Democratic wins. I just I mean, I just yeah, I felt that it was going to be favorable. But I never thought in a million years it would be tsunami. I guess it's the lack of it. Were you at all surprised, James?
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Speaker 7: Well, let me read something to you, okay, real quick. It takes me about 45 seconds. Give me 45 seconds. And this is a speech from Martin Luther King Jr., March 14th, 1968, at Grosse Pointe High School in Michigan, outside Detroit. And the speech was titled, The Other America.
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Speaker 5: And it goes like this.
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Speaker 7: John Donne was right. No man is an island. And the tide that fills every man is a place. a piece of the continent, a part of the main. And he goes on toward the end to say, any man's death diminishes me because I'm involved in mankind. Therefore, it's not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee. He's quoting King as John Donne. Somehow, King goes on, we must come to see that in this pluralistic world, Interrelated society, we are all tied together, I'm quoting Dr. King, in a single garment of destiny, caught in inescapable network of mutuality. And by working with determination and realizing that the power must be shared, I think we can solve this problem. And may I say in conclusion that our goal is freedom, and I believe that we're going to get there. It's going to be more difficult from here on in, but I believe we're going to get there because however much She strays away from it. The goal of America is freedom, and our destiny is tied up with the destiny of America. Before the Pilgrim Fathers landed at Plymouth, we were there.
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Speaker 8: Before Jefferson etched across the pages of history the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence, we were here. Before the beautiful words of the Star-Spangled Banner were written, we were here. And for more than two centuries, our forefathers labored here without wages. They made cotton king. They built the homes of their masters in the midst of the most humiliating and oppressive conditions, and yet out of a bottomless vitality, they continued to grow and develop. And if the inexpressible cruelties of slavery couldn't stop us, the opposition that we now face, including the white backlash, will surely fail. Martin Luther King, 1968, at Michigan. in the high.
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Speaker 7: School there at Grosse Pointe. And so I think that kind of sums it up, that what he dreamed, what he spoke of, and this was approximately 21 days before he was assassinated in Memphis, is beginning to come to fruition.
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Speaker 9: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking directly tied to yesterday's elections?
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Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 7: I think that was a prophecy that At one point, he said the South shall rise again. We have a senator elected from Texas, a senator for the first time in I don't know how many years, a senator elected from South Carolina for the first time in decades. We have a race in Mississippi right now in which the black Democratic Senate candidate says this morning we are going to win.
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Speaker 5: It's a nail biter. I just checked it this morning. He was ahead by 40, 43.
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Speaker 3: 43 votes.
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Speaker 5: Right now. I just checked.
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Speaker 7: See, see, MSNB, MSN, MSN, MSN. He is ahead by more than 60 votes. So it's a slow process, but he could win that. And when King said the South shall rise again, that is where that our power will come from the South, because we here in the North, we were our parents were part of that great migration and we are part of the Southern diaspora.
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Speaker 5: So we.
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Speaker 7: Here today represent all over this country what king talked about then and that is the the the southern black migration all over this country and it's becoming the uh into formation but it is based in the south when he said the south should rise again so that's where i think uh that the ticket.
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Speaker 3: Is yeah well let's uh you know there's a lot to you know to talk about and to um To go through, sort out, as you will, just the specifics of last night. And again, I'm still, that's, you know, that prophecy, as you say, is very interesting. I'm processing all of it. because that was a lot to process. And, you know, we can look at what happened last night in a number of different ways, and certainly that prophecy is one of them. You know, we've had our Democratic strategist, Ms. Cordelia, on. Republican strategist, Abdul-Hakim Shabazz, will probably be calling in at some point in time as we go through, you know, through some of the specifics of what happened what exactly happened. And we also, as we were saying, James, have the lines open for the remainder of the show for those that want to weigh in. But yeah, I just, wow. Just wow. Oh, go ahead.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: You were about to say something.
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Speaker 7: Well, I was just going to say, reiterate what I said. What you've seen, although... There are a lot of factors that people will point to. I mean, I was watching the local news a couple of days ago and they were like, oh, yeah, there's been lines. It's because of, you know, the local races, the statewide races, a bow by for secretary of state, you know, against three opponents. And it's it's it's it's because of, you know, the race that J.D. Ford flipped the seat and won. And I think it's is it five?
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Speaker 3: Is it Congressional District five?
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Speaker 10: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Indiana Congressional District.
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Speaker 7: Against Victoria Sparks.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: No, no.
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Speaker 7: I'm saying those all were the the the the the they they pushed they pushed us to the point we are now. They were the ingredients for what happened. But it when they tried to take away I'm talking to nationally when they tried to take away the vote. In the South in particular, in places like Mississippi, and they did take it away. In Tennessee, they took it away in Louisiana after a court had ruled that that map was wrong. Alabama, they tried to take it away. So what I'm saying is that when you press people down, when you continue to put their heads down to the ground, they are going to stand up and fight back. And I believe that's a large part of what you have seen overnight.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Definitely fighting back with force. But, yeah, yeah. Let's go to the phone lines, and then we'll go through some of the, you know, in case folks had no idea, you know, the referendum, public question one and two, you know, Indiana, then, you know, wherever else we end up going with this. But, you know, some of our listeners want to weigh in as well. So let's go to the phone lines, 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. Marvin, go ahead. How are you?
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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I told Eric, happy America Day. I always tell people evil can win. They'll have their day, but I always believe good overcomes evil. We saw that yesterday. And Indiana, you know, it was just amazing here. And I'm not going to take them because I know they're.
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Speaker 12: Going to have a lot of calls.
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Speaker 6: But even with the school board races, I think it was a referendum on money in our politics because there were millions of dollars spent against the candidates in the other states. And we won. Even with the IPS school board races, I knew they would break 3-2. I didn't know which way it would go. So when there were more backhanders, because you have to think about they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to defeat these people. They didn't defeat two of them. And then the three that they did defeat, they barely won, Tina, against all of that money. So I just think yesterday was a great day. If you look at Bob Binning, who was the chairman of the Education Committee, who had been pushing a lot of those destructive legislation through against IPS. He was defeated yesterday. And it wasn't just because of the blue wave. They had a concerted effort with the candidates. They had a lot of people door-knocking for that. So there were some big things to happen yesterday. I think we broke the supermajority. here in the state of Indiana. None of that was expected.
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Speaker 3: But the vote's still being counted because it probably is a House and a Senate here in Indiana.
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Speaker 6: It's a House and a Senate. And then lastly, Tina, if you look at it, vote by, you can't say that former Mayor Ballard calls England that race. Vote by, even with England and vote by, I mean England and former Mayor Ballard's vote tallies together, vote by one that seat, the Secretary of State seat handling. So it was just a great day. I'm hopeful again. You know, what surprised me, I'm going to let two things go.
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Speaker 5: Trump immediately, oh, I'll work with the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: What do little kids say about that? What do little kids say about that? What do they say?
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Speaker 10: Psych?
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Speaker 9: No, no.
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Speaker 3: Do not fall for that.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to, you know, I don't believe that, but I'm not going to dispute the results. So you can't. It was so overwhelming. How can you? And then lastly, Tina, it was so funny. I was laying on the couch watching MS down last night and Trump sent out this tweet about how he had higher.
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Speaker 6: Approval ratings and Abraham Lincoln and that kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: The hyperbole never ends. It never ends. Best ever, best election ever.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So it's a great day, Tina. I think if you look at it, even if you include Bob Donaldson, and I know he's a Republican, he's an HBCU grad. What James is talking about.
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Speaker 3: In the South. You're talking about Donald in Texas? I mean, in Florida?
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Speaker 6: In Florida.
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Speaker 3: Byron Donald?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's Black. So you got Georgia.
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Speaker 3: He's Negro.
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Speaker 5: What were you going to say about the South, Marvin? Marvin, what were you going to say about the South? Your comments were true about the South rising. Now, I believe had Angie Nixon and Donaldson went against each other and Jolly and the Senator there went against each other, I believe we would have won four or two because you would have had two black candidates if you get what I'm saying. I think that we would have took Florida, and then Dave Jolly would have beat, I don't even know that senator's name down there. I just think if things would have been reversed, it might have been a different result. And if the Democrats would have put more money into Florida, Angie Nixon, with hardly no money, almost won that race. So I just think it was a good night. And like I said, I'm not giving Bob Donaldson any, I know what he stands for, he's MAGA, but I'm.
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Speaker 6: Just saying what James was talking about. You have a Hispanic, governor of Texas. You have a.
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Speaker 3: Hinojosa, yes.
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Speaker 5: And you have to.
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Speaker 12: Think about it, Kima.
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Speaker 6: And then a Native American first-ever governor of New Mexico. I think God has a sense of humor against.
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Speaker 5: All your hate.
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Speaker 6: We have a Black governor in Wisconsin and Nevada. It was just... If they don't understand what happened yesterday, they'll never get it. Thanks for taking my call.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Marvin. Thank you, Marvin, indeed. And Marvin, you know, he was talking about a lot of the national races, but James, I think it's important that we highlight the Indiana and the local races. The biggest, you know, the most watched, probably highest, highly contested statewide race was the race for Secretary of State. And Beau Bayh won that handily over Republican opponent Max Engling. Greg Ballard, former mayor of the city of Indianapolis, came in a distant third. And I don't remember what the Libertarian, Ballard was Lincoln Party. I can't remember what the Libertarian's numbers were. I don't have them all right here. But anyway, Bobai won that. The public questions, Indiana public questions one and two, despite the education, we did the best we could, but public question one, which was the- Yeah. OK, go ahead, James. What were you saying?
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Speaker 5: Well, that was approved. Yeah, they both were approved. But you know what? Not only did we I mean, we explained them right. But you're right.
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Speaker 7: There was a lack of education. And I say this from.
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Speaker 5: My own experience.
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Speaker 7: When I went to the polling booth, people called me over to where they were voting, and that's allowed in Indiana. You can go and help somebody vote if they want you to. And they had voted. They said, is this right? In my view, it wasn't, because they had voted yes. That was the first question that popped up. Those were the first two, public question one and public question two, when you put.
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Speaker 9: Your ballot in.
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Speaker 7: That was the first question that popped up. And, you know, I said, no, they want to put people in jail and hold them without bail before trial, before trial. And he was like, no, no, I don't want that.
00:16:22
Speaker 5: He said, no.
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Speaker 7: And another person said, no, no, I don't want that.
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Speaker 5: I said, no.
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Speaker 7: So that was two people where I was who didn't understand it. So I think a lack of education on those two things. was really one of the main reasons that they were approved. People just didn't know, and they went, oh, well, it must be the legislature passed it, and they're saying they just want us approved. It must be okay. But they didn't understand. There was not enough publicity about it, and we did the best we could beforehand, but I just think people didn't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't know. And I will add to that the way that it was worded. There's a way you can present things on the ballot clear, concisely, and at the age level or grade level that anyone could understand it. This took a legal mind to dissect, you know, or some type of a mind to dissect the language and figure out, you know, where it is and what it, you know, it was just, I think it was deliberately misinterpreted.
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Speaker 8: I do too.
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Speaker 9: On purpose.
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Speaker 7: And speaking of a legal mind, I don't know that it passes constitutional muster. We'll see if it gets challenged because according to the Constitution– let's see. It should not– it talks about excessive bail. I'll find it. But you cannot– I'll find that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Bond is really granted.
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Speaker 3: By the Constitution. By the Constitution. I can't imagine that that would not be challenged. I can't imagine. And then the judge's question, public question number two, that allows the residency requirements for city and town court judges was on the ballot as referred to. Yes vote. supported expanding the area in which a town or city judge may reside to include the county bordering the court. A no vote exposed expanding the area in which a town or city judge may resign. So there was that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the Eighth Amendment that I was talking about before you came back to the phone. So if anybody wants to look it up, it talks about how that it protects citizens citizens against imposing excessive bail. In this case, there is no bail, according to this new.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to be excessive if there is none, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 7: Excessive fines or cruel or unusual punishment. So, you know, I would not doubt that it's going to be challenged. We'll have to wait and see.
00:19:04
Speaker 3: The other thing we talked about quite a bit on the show, especially for the state's largest school system, it looks like the IPS property tax referendum passed. It was approved. And so far, so good. A state takeover has been, you know, put on hold or pause or avoided. Yeah, let's say avoided. Voters passed a property tax increase to generate an estimated ninety five million dollars. In Indianapolis for Indianapolis public schools and roughly 60 charter schools throughout the city. The extra funding is a lifeline. It's not a permanent solution. It's a lifeline for the district, which face potential state intervention without the measure due to its dire financial situation. 63% of voters approved the ballot question according to unofficial results. So, bow-bye. The Democrat wins. The other down-ballot offices went well for the Democrats. Public question number one and two were approved. IPS referendum was approved. And, you know, the statehouse is no longer a supermajority. The Indiana Statehouse is no longer operating with the supermajority. And that could be whittled down even more because there's still a few races still being counted that haven't been determined yet.
00:20:29
Speaker 7: So that's true.
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Speaker 5: Good point.
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Speaker 7: I know you want to get your callers in, but one on the IPS on the IPS referendum. I'm glad you said it's a lifeline, not a permanent solution, because let me just play the advocate here of voters, because we talked about this and we had a lot of people call in and say, look. What is this for? So I would caution Superintendent Alicia Johnson and those who are in charge, the IPS board, look, you've got to show results. People are not going to continue to approve these tax increases for funding for our schools. The statehouse comes in here too, Tina, because now that we have a super– broken the supermajority, that means that they cannot conduct business without a quorum. That means that Democrats will increase their.
00:21:22
Speaker 5: Numbers on committees. That's all– oh, that's right.
00:21:24
Speaker 7: That's all-encompassing. That's a good word, leverage. So maybe they can get some more funding to urban school districts like IPS, which have traditionally been underfunded.
00:21:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I– I'm of the persuasion that you can't keep taking away, taking away, taking away and say, all right, do good. All right, do good. I'm going to take some more away from you, so you better do good. I'm going to take some more away from you, so you better do better. It's insanity. I mean, the math doesn't add up. They say the math ain't mathing. So, you know, how can IPS be expected to continue to grow and thrive under these conditions? So, yes, indeed, the supermajority being dismantled, so to speak, and perhaps we can get some more reasonableness in there and some more funding to the school system that desperately needs it. Let's go back to the phone lines, 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
00:22:17
Speaker 10: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Russell, go ahead. How are you?
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Speaker 9: Hey, Tina.
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Speaker 3: Hey. Great day.
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Speaker 11: Great getting up morning it is a good.
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Speaker 7: Day that reminds me of mr russell from that movie glory and how uh denzel washington was he was called on to praise you know i'm not a praying man but but but before that great you know what that that was uh what's his name.
00:22:51
Speaker 9: Um Morgan Freeman.
00:22:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, well.
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Speaker 5: That great getting up morning, we just want.
00:22:57
Speaker 2: To do this.
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Speaker 3: Lordy.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: Lordy, lordy.
00:23:02
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing. But, you know, if you think about it, there were so many things against what the government administration under Donald Trump and others did. it was so much against them. I mean, you know, it almost couldn't turn out any other way. And, but the, the, the thing that, uh, I think is great is that, you know, finally, uh, I think people around the world are so grateful that Trump and them will have some balances because it's just been crazy. Uh, uh, you remember the phrase, the ugly American that used to, talk about the Americans that go abroad and they would act so hinky and haughty and whatnot. There was a phrase, ugly American. Well, people were saying that that's what people around the world are starting to call Americans when they travel. So, I mean, it's a situation to me where the country that promised so much hope they were turning into dope promises. Well, instead, I hope it was dope. If you, if you, you know, get what I mean, it was, it was definitely on the negative. And so I'm so happy that this has been at least reversed to some extent and more to do. And I think that, that people were asking me about, Indiana, you know, and the legislature and whatnot, I just kind of had a feeling that it was going to change because generally speaking, the people of Indiana, even though they might be miseducated or indoctrinated or whatnot, they will ultimately come to their senses, you know, and, you know, there's a saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that was what was happening because when it came to the fact that redistricting to just, you know, get rid of all the Democrats, people, people, you know, they, particularly in India, I'm thinking stuck in a crowd with a lot of people, and that was kind of like the final straw. So the Hispanic community, particularly, I think they realized that they had been wrong about the Trump administration and to that extent. And so I think that was all of these factors kind of came together and produced the result that we're seeing. But I would also like to congratulate you and the stations for what they did this year before the election in terms of educating people, you know, and other people that worked in the community, volunteers, students, It was just great. I think people just came together and they realized that we had to go in a different direction.
00:26:13
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mr. Russell. I appreciate it. And we certainly do. But, you know, I can't thank voters enough because without turnout, none of this would be possible. If we didn't go, yeah, we get up and go to the polls. None of this would be possible. You know, so we did a lot of it.
00:26:32
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:26:32
Speaker 3: We meaning collectively everybody going out and doing their thing. and getting to the polls to vote. So I'm sorry, you were saying something, James?
00:26:42
Speaker 7: No, no, I'm just going to say that, in fact, I was going to say something along those lines, that it is the young people, not just the young people, the older people voting, don't want to take anything away. But as I've said before, every election brings a new generation. There are people who are 14 who will be able to vote in four years. There are people who are 16 who will be able to vote in 2028. And each time it brings out a new, and I think as Americans, I think that we are becoming more, you know, despite what we're seeing in some places, in some high places, I think that we are trying to understand one another more, and that's what you saw last night is that, and like Mr. Russell said, it was a lot of things that brought us to this confluence, the terrorists, the war, you name it, indiscriminate and very, I think, very unmerciful immigration policy. Just a lot of things, grifting, you know, corruption, just a lot of things that came together. But people, even in the past, if those things would have occurred, they would have just held their noses and voted anyway. So, I mean, there are people who voted for Democrats who never did that before. And so I do believe that it's changing. The voting is changing. I do thank them, too. I thank the young people, and I thank the And especially, you know, the younger of the young, you know, I thank them because they are really changing our nation, if not the world here.
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Everybody that got out and vote with everybody, like you say, including. And you're right, there is always a new voting block coming. We got calls. We got a lot of calls and we will get to you. If you can hear me, stay right there because we're coming. Yeah, we're coming right to you right after this break.
00:29:00
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
00:29:13
Speaker 3: And we are back with Community Connection. One day after stunning election results, and stunning I don't think is too strong of a word, because when you can surprise the number of people who have been surprised with the turnout and And the wins that were, you know, just across the board, you know, both here in Indiana. Now, Indiana's still red. You know, let there be no doubt about that. But the inroads that were made last night, Democrats making some history, you know, holding statewide office for the first time in more than a decade. And after more than a decade as well, the supermajority being broken at the statehouse, which is huge news. In a lot of areas, James, because we can we can talk about school funding. We can talk about, you know, we can talk about taxes. We can talk about a lot of things that that now that the supermajority has been broken, you know, we might be able to make some inroads with. So, yeah, that's huge. That's huge. Very big. Yeah.
00:30:20
Speaker 5: And yeah.
00:30:22
Speaker 3: Wow, the guy, you know, Atlanta has a black governor. You know, Wisconsin, was it Wisconsin? Crowley has a black governor.
00:30:31
Speaker 5: Don't get off of Atlanta, of Georgia too quick.
00:30:34
Speaker 7: That is the first black woman governor in the nation's history. In the nation's history, there was a you know, there was a short period called Reconstruction, about 12 years at the end of the Civil War.
00:30:51
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:30:52
Speaker 7: And there were certainly a lot of blacks elected to Congress before they shut it down, completely shut it down. And there were some governors, too, who were black, but never a black woman who is. Governor of a state, which is Atlanta, Hartfield Airport, still the busiest in the world, or one of them. I mean, Keisha Lance Bottom is a Georgian. And so, you know, she got people to trust her governor. She was former mayor of Atlanta. And so, yeah, it's historic.
00:31:25
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Dina. No, no.
00:31:27
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there's so many historic. And I just I don't want Democrats to fumble the ball, though, because. I it feels like this wave tsunami, whatever you want to call it, has been more anti-Trump than it has been pro-Democrat, because the Democrats still get a fair share of criticism and rightfully so. You know, they're seen as not fighting, you know, not fighting the right fights and all kinds of other things. So they have been they've been handed a new lease on life, so to speak. And I hope. That they do right by it. I really, really do.
00:32:01
Speaker 2: I do.
00:32:01
Speaker 5: I do.
00:32:01
Speaker 7: But there's there's there's a, you know, Democrats voted. I mean, they are loyal. They voted for people who were not, you know, from their community who are not black for since the beginning that they had to vote. They voted for people. So, you know, voting like we've been talking about is power. And that is the only thing that Mr. Trump understands in all of his his minions.
00:32:28
Speaker 5: It's power.
00:32:29
Speaker 7: And so that is why we keep preaching it is because we have to govern ourselves and work with others. We're willing to work with others. It's just that that cohort is not willing to work with anybody and they feel superior to everybody else based on their leader.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:32:48
Speaker 3: Just don't fall for the okey-doke, Democrats. Do not fall for the okey-doke. Do not.
00:32:52
Speaker 6: Do not.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phone lines.
00:32:55
Speaker 11: 317-480-1310.
00:32:55
Speaker 3: 317. 480-1310. Jeff, go ahead. How are you?
00:33:01
Speaker 5: Hey, Tina, James, Eric.
00:33:04
Speaker 9: How are you guys doing?
00:33:05
Speaker 3: Doing great. Doing great. You know, it's a it's a I wouldn't say celebratory mood that I that I'm in, but it's it's certainly an exhale, you know, like, OK, now we can start to to get back to work. But, you know, it's too early to celebrate too soon to celebrate. But you can certainly exhale and say, OK, now we can do something.
00:33:26
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:27
Speaker 9: Without trying to sound redundant, you know, I always say that the three products of government, I said, the executive, the legislative, and the judiciary. I said the most powerful one is the fourth one, the people. The people spoke last night. A total rebuke of Donald Trump and rejection of MAGA.
00:33:54
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:33:55
Speaker 9: I'm going to give a shout out to poor working class white people.
00:33:59
Speaker 5: They showed up. They showed up.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: I haven't seen all of the demos and the breakdowns and everything yet because I just haven't seen it. But you've seen that number or you've seen something to that effect?
00:34:12
Speaker 12: Okay.
00:34:12
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: You're thinking they had to have shown up.
00:34:16
Speaker 9: Okay, I see what you're saying.
00:34:18
Speaker 5: They had to.
00:34:18
Speaker 9: To win like that? Even Elon Musk, who spent nearly $ 6 billion of his own money to get Republicans elected, failed miserably, especially down there in Texas. And really, for the new elected governor of Georgia, she ain't the only woman. The new governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands A black woman.
00:34:44
Speaker 8: U.S.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: Territory.
00:34:46
Speaker 2: U.S.
00:34:46
Speaker 5: Territory.
00:34:48
Speaker 9: And, you know, and for Native Americans, New Mexico, Minnesota, and possibly Alaska. I think it's still pretty, hadn't been called yet.
00:34:57
Speaker 5: And in Mississippi.
00:34:59
Speaker 9: And then we got a senator, a new black woman from Illinois, who we just elected. Another senator. So we showed up.
00:35:10
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:35:10
Speaker 9: I tell you.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: And you know what, kid?
00:35:13
Speaker 9: James, I saw something. Even I.
00:35:17
Speaker 6: Tolerate.
00:35:18
Speaker 9: I try to get so much tolerance. I had to watch Fox News last night. It was better than Saturday Night Live.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: Okay. In what way, Jeff?
00:35:27
Speaker 8: Oh, man.
00:35:28
Speaker 9: I never seen so many depressed looking people in my life.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: I did not turn to Fox. I should have. I'll see some clips. I'll check out some clips.
00:35:36
Speaker 9: I mean, these people are still enablers of this man.
00:35:40
Speaker 12: Enablers.
00:35:41
Speaker 3: They have to stay the course.
00:35:42
Speaker 9: I mean, it was just excuses, excuses. Oh, the communism took over. Well, guess what? This was a great victory over fascism. It was a great victory over fascism. And a great victory over the oligarchs. Donald Trump wanted to set up an oligarchy, a plutocracy, a government for rich billionaire grifters. And, yeah, black folks, we need to pat ourselves on the back. But before, you know, but Byron Donald, uh-uh.
00:36:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's black.
00:36:15
Speaker 9: But you say, Tito, all skin folks ain't skin folks.
00:36:18
Speaker 2: No.
00:36:19
Speaker 12: I'm not going there.
00:36:20
Speaker 9: No, I'm sorry, James.
00:36:21
Speaker 2: I ain't going to do it.
00:36:22
Speaker 9: I ain't going to give him a hip-hip hurrah.
00:36:25
Speaker 5: Nope.
00:36:25
Speaker 3: I ain't going to do it.
00:36:27
Speaker 9: He carries the water for a racist agenda. I ain't doing it, Tito. You know. He's in the same category as Mickey Minaj, Stephen A.
00:36:37
Speaker 6: Smith.
00:36:38
Speaker 3: Donald is who, uh... What's his name? You were asking about who he was.
00:36:45
Speaker 12: Jolly. Jolly.
00:36:46
Speaker 3: David Jolly.
00:36:47
Speaker 6: Yeah, David Jolly.
00:36:48
Speaker 5: And you know what? And he only won.
00:36:50
Speaker 9: By skin of his teeth.
00:36:52
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:36:54
Speaker 9: Even the Republicans that won barely won.
00:36:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's the truth. It is the truth. It is the truth. I don't know. But it made you feel good that you made us collectively, I think, feel good that not only did we win, you know, right, we won big, and that we voted, you know, that we went out there and did our thing.
00:37:18
Speaker 9: People say that your vote don't count.
00:37:20
Speaker 5: Don't believe them.
00:37:21
Speaker 3: Don't believe them because it matters. I mean, look at that razor-thin race in Mississippi, of all places, where it shouldn't even be that close between a black man and a white woman. In Mississippi?
00:37:33
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:37:35
Speaker 5: No. The U.S.
00:37:38
Speaker 7: House vote by race, according to MSNOW, I just saw a graph, and it's the Democratic, the white vote was split between the Democratic candidate and the Republican candidate across the country for the U.S. House, 49% to 49%. The black voter gave the Democratic candidate 90% of their vote, 9% of the Black vote went to Republican candidates. Latino vote, 64% went to the Democratic candidate. 34% went to the Republican candidate. And lastly, the Asian vote, 71% went to the Democratic candidate, and 28% went to the Republican candidate, according to MSNOW.
00:38:25
Speaker 3: Okay, there you have it. There you have it.
00:38:27
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
00:38:35
Speaker 3: I guess projections were that Democrats here at home and across the country were going to do okay, possibly well. No one, I don't think, described what happened last night or could have described. Maybe James Carville after a couple of Jacks and Cokes, but Jack Daniels and Coke because he drinks through his podcast. But I think Carville might have been the only one, the only pundit that I've heard that felt like it was going to be as big as it is, as big as it ended up being. So, yeah. 317-480-1310. Josephine, go ahead. How are you?
00:39:13
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm just so happy.
00:39:14
Speaker 10: I stayed up to 2 o'clock in the morning just laughing and having a good old time.
00:39:18
Speaker 9: Oh, my gosh.
00:39:19
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:39:19
Speaker 5: Even Mississippi, I.
00:39:20
Speaker 6: Just couldn't believe it.
00:39:22
Speaker 10: I said, Mississippi? But anyway, I just want to– to, I know this may be kind of, I don't know. But anyway, I want to talk about the people here in the state of Indiana. My opinion why they vote Republican is because they are ignorant to the fact that's going on. I don't think they're stupid at all. I don't think they're unintelligent. I just think they're so rural and they're so far away from what's going on in the city and the capital of Indianapolis that they're just not aware. They just don't know. Anytime you have a county and you have to go to counties and you got a pregnant wife, you have to go to counties to get the health care that they need.
00:40:11
Speaker 5: They just don't.
00:40:12
Speaker 10: They're not aware of what's going on. I really believe that they're just not aware. And it's not that they're stupid. I don't believe they're stupid. I don't think that, oh, I'm going to vote Republican because I hate Democrats. I don't believe that's the truth. I believe that they're just alienated with what's going on at the governor and the state capitol. They just don't know the corruption and all that because I know someone who.
00:40:37
Speaker 9: Lives in a rural county.
00:40:41
Speaker 10: And she said she doesn't even get TV coming in from Indianapolis.
00:40:45
Speaker 5: She don't get nothing.
00:40:49
Speaker 10: So it's not like they just don't know the corruption going on. I don't think anybody with any sense would allow what's going on at the state capitol to go on unless something's wrong with them.
00:41:03
Speaker 3: Well, we had an entire nation that something was wrong with them because how many people are you going to allow to be over your money and your life that is a adjudicated sex offender, 34-count felon, and a whole lot more. I can't even go down the list. So somebody, you know, people don't know. People had to know certain things. But when you say nobody would let that go on, of course they would let it go on because they elected it. If you want to be truthful about they elected it and those who went out and physically pushed the button for him to to be elected. And those who stayed home and said it didn't matter who by default helped him to get elected. So, yeah, people there are people that will do that. I think there's another element, Josephine, that you say people just don't know. I think that people fall into habits and this is black, white, whatever. And if you if you have always voted Republican, you're just going to say, OK, well, whatever they do is fine. I mean, it's what I call the habit vote. And Indiana is notorious for that. That's why it stays so ruby red. But, you know, I just can't buy that people didn't know. or don't know, if they knew about the corruption, they would never have that happen. Yes, they did. They had a squeaky clean candidate, and then they had a candidate who was flawed like no other candidate that we've ever had in the history of the United States of America elections. That is the truth. And so how they didn't know that, how they didn't see that, and how they overlooked that and said, yeah, but... I don't think that's ignorance. I don't think that part is ignorance, Josephine. I don't. I think that's willful. whatever you want to call it. But I don't think that that is.
00:43:02
Speaker 10: I'm trying to plug in a positive for something that's negative.
00:43:08
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't people who simply don't know because there are people that are uninvolved. They just don't care. It doesn't matter to them.
00:43:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's some that are just not participating at all.
00:43:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just don't do it.
00:43:20
Speaker 7: And they won't vote. There is that group. But to what Josephine is saying... I think that there's a lot of miseducation out there. And like you said, Tina, they just do what they think the people in their community do. They do what they do.
00:43:37
Speaker 5: They don't try to.
00:43:38
Speaker 7: Find information that might challenge the prevailing thought of the people who live around them.
00:43:45
Speaker 5: They don't do that.
00:43:45
Speaker 10: That's exactly my– that's what I'm trying to say. That's exactly my point.
00:43:48
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. I think we're all saying, yeah, they're not going to look. Yeah, so– Absolutely. Okay. All right. Thank you, Josephine. Appreciate it.
00:43:59
Speaker 6: 317-480-1310.
00:43:59
Speaker 3: 317-480-1310. Joe, go ahead. How are you?
00:44:04
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, everyone.
00:44:06
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
00:44:07
Speaker 5: Afternoon.
00:44:08
Speaker 13: Glad to be speaking with you. I've been praying and prayers surely have been answered, but I'm not just calling for myself today. I'm calling because I belong to the Way Christian Church and And we really had some people were doing some great work. And my age anymore, I can't do that much of the great work, but I can surely support those that do. And one of the people were, you guys may not remember, because I usually get up early on a Saturday morning, and I would hear Reverend Brown show. And there's a guy, as a matter of fact, he was one of our older men, Brother Walls, and he was talking about definitely voting, and he was talking about things that young people should be doing.
00:44:50
Speaker 5: But he not only does.
00:44:52
Speaker 13: That, he has a group of young people that he gets together with at church and explained things, and he did a couple of workshops for us all so we could understand about voting better. And I really do thank God for also Sister Linda Everett. She, too, about most of October was in and out of our church doing work, you know, asking and telling people about voting, bringing in material.
00:45:21
Speaker 5: And, you know, like those things may not mean much to a lot.
00:45:25
Speaker 13: And then again, they do. But I'm one of the ones really today speaking out and thanking God for people like those people, because we truly, truly need more of that. And now, you know, like somebody said, yeah, we did it. But isn't there so, so much to do? And we do thank God for people that did do it because they really showed up and showed their way out this time and our way out. So again, let us continue to pray for one another and try to do what's going to be help and show more love for one another. So I just wanted to say that. And I thank you guys so much for allowing me to come on and have a blessed day. It's usually Joe, but today is Ethel, one of the ministers from the Way Christian Church. Thank you guys so much.
00:46:09
Speaker 5: That was a beautiful comment.
00:46:12
Speaker 7: Thank you.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:46:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:46:16
Speaker 3: You know, we all as a community have to come together. She makes a good point. Everybody.
00:46:20
Speaker 6: Everybody.
00:46:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what it's going to take, Tina, coming together.
00:46:24
Speaker 5: But you know what? Like you've been saying, I mean, I think you've been saying this in so many ways. They have to recognize that those people who follow a certain philosophy or political idea about how things should be, they have to realize they are not the only ones on this earth. You know what I'm saying? And so in that sense, you have to take your power, in this case, in our country, it's the vote, to show them that they just can't do whatever they want to do because the power is, by the Constitution, given to the people. It's of, by, and for the people, the Constitution.
00:47:06
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:47:06
Speaker 3: Indeed.
00:47:07
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:47:08
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. By the way, from from the time we first heard that the DOJ, the Department of Justice, Trump was sending election monitors to Lake County and Marion County. I kept scratching my head and like, why are if they're concerned about the elections, really concerned about the elections and really concerned about Republicans in the elections? Why are they not going to District five in Hamilton County? That's where they need to be, because that's where they're in trouble. I said it. I said it. I said it. And look what happened last night.
00:47:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:47:44
Speaker 3: So, no, I didn't I didn't I didn't know what the outcome was going to be. I just knew it was going to be tight. But it was also, to me, proof that you're not paying attention to the elections. You're trying to intimidate voters so that they do not get involved in the elections. And if there was ever a case of that, it played itself out last night in District five.
00:48:08
Speaker 5: Or J.D.
00:48:09
Speaker 7: Ford won against Victoria Sparks.
00:48:10
Speaker 3: Where J.D. Ford beat Victoria Sparks. I was just, it's like, why are they coming to Lake County and Marion counties? I knew why. But it was so disingenuous that we are concerned about the elections. If you're concerned, you better get yourself up there to, well, too late now. But anyway, too late now. Brother Man, go ahead. How are you?
00:48:35
Speaker 2: All right, how are you doing, Kenan, James, and Ed?
00:48:40
Speaker 7: Hey, brother man.
00:48:41
Speaker 5: How are you?
00:48:42
Speaker 2: You know, we be praying, and God listens. So he knew about these people. These people are trying to make us poorer than we are. If you want in your school, you put it in there. We're not giving you nothing. We're going to take this money and do it with it. So God heard him say it, and he took care of that for us. Racist people trying to hurt people that's down. And that's it. the way God does. I noticed that when I was working.
00:49:23
Speaker 5: In the U.S.
00:49:25
Speaker 2: That supervisor gave me a written apology and a verbal apology. So did all else's job was on the line. And these people like Ron and and Trump and all them, ain't nothing but devils. You know what? And he said, pray for your enemies. The prayer I put up wasn't very good, James, so I can't say I prayed for my enemy to do good. I prayed that God would take care of me.
00:49:58
Speaker 12: And he did.
00:50:01
Speaker 2: You can make love to men? I prayed for God to take care of them, and he did.
00:50:07
Speaker 7: He did indeed.
00:50:08
Speaker 5: Yes, sir. He did. He heard your prayer.
00:50:11
Speaker 7: And a lot of others.
00:50:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, y'all having.
00:50:18
Speaker 5: A good show. I love it.
00:50:20
Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you, brother man.
00:50:21
Speaker 5: Thank you, brother man.
00:50:22
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Appreciate it, appreciate it. So we can go to some of the.
00:50:28
Speaker 3: Some of the chat line here on YouTube. We must hold elected officials accountable. Too often we vote and then disagree. Real change requires us to stay informed, involved, and vocal. Accountability doesn't end at the ballot box. How many times have we said that?
00:50:44
Speaker 11: Absolutely.
00:50:44
Speaker 9: Yeah, keep rolling.
00:50:47
Speaker 3: I know what happened. I believe people voted their pocketbook. They were promised and lied to because President Biden wasn't good enough for them and Kamala Harris. They voted their pocketbook. Dionne Levingston is famous for that line, I vote my wallet. I'm an independent. I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. And if you ask how I vote, I vote my wallet. And maybe that's the pain that it took. Because I remember when Trump first got elected, Andre Carson said, until people feel a certain amount of pain, they aren't going to change or they're not going to pay attention. And he said, it's not going to be until that pain hits When folks take a look and say, whoa, wait a minute, this isn't what I bargained for. And so that comment probably goes along those lines. It's like, wait a minute.
00:51:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, he's a habitual liar. And so, you know, some people kind of glorified him because, you know, he was a businessman and supposedly made billions of dollars, you know, starting as a real estate developer and all of this and all of that. And he was so successful. He was a TV reality show star.
00:52:03
Speaker 3: Failed.
00:52:03
Speaker 5: And all this. Yeah, failed, right.
00:52:06
Speaker 7: And that's telling of his whole life.
00:52:10
Speaker 5: But you don't.
00:52:10
Speaker 7: Follow someone who is a liar who can't stop himself from lying. You're going to enable him. That was Victoria Sparks' problem. And all of those, too.
00:52:23
Speaker 5: And Todd Young and them are next.
00:52:25
Speaker 7: Because you don't enable folks and then turn around. And who was it that said they were watching Fox News and they were like just, you know, falling all over themselves to make excuses?
00:52:36
Speaker 5: Stop making excuses.
00:52:38
Speaker 7: And lastly, I want to say no matter what it was, it was that the terrorists, the lies that the, you know, hoodwinked and bamboozled, whatever, no matter what. The end result was he was going to lead all these people off a cliff, as I've said numerous times, and that's what happened.
00:52:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. I was going back and forth between MSNOW, CNN, and Fox News. Anchor just went, oh, the news anchor just went to go home. You should have watched it. It was comical. You know, it's interesting, you know, how different media outlets report on the same thing going on, the slant. That's put on there. Fox News has always been known to put a slant toward Donald Trump. And, you know, I'm sure that there are some excuses. I just haven't heard what the excuses are. I just haven't heard what they are. But, you know, Trump supporters and those who are still with him, good luck. I would be curious to hear what that thought is right now.
00:53:44
Speaker 9: You know?
00:53:45
Speaker 12: Hmm.
00:53:46
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, people are always looking.
00:53:49
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:53:49
Speaker 3: People are always looking.
00:53:50
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tina.
00:53:50
Speaker 3: No, you were saying what? People are always looking for what?
00:53:52
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they're always looking for some reason to, you know, to validate what they think. And so that's why they slant the news.
00:54:04
Speaker 5: They look for anything to validate when they know at the core, some of them don't care, many of them don't care, at the heart that they're wrong.
00:54:12
Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
00:54:15
Speaker 3: No, they do not. They do not. We'll be right back with more right after this.
00:54:32
Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
00:54:48
Speaker 3: And we're back with Community Connection. The day after the huge, huge Democratic performance In last night's midterm elections. I don't know. In some ways, I was just kind of speechless. I mean, I kept, you know, trying to. Did you have that reaction or what was your reaction, Eric?
00:55:12
Speaker 4: I was speechless like you.
00:55:14
Speaker 9: I was like, wow, this is happening.
00:55:16
Speaker 4: It's really happening. I had a feeling Bo Bai, I thought he would win. I knew he was going to win.
00:55:22
Speaker 3: I kind of had a feeling about that one, too.
00:55:23
Speaker 4: Some of the others, I was like, wow, I didn't expect that.
00:55:26
Speaker 3: And, um, Bo Bai, uh, being probably secretary of state.
00:55:31
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
00:55:32
Speaker 3: And the conversations have been beyond that. He may be the next, uh, governor of the state of Indiana, too.
00:55:38
Speaker 5: That's true.
00:55:39
Speaker 3: That's been discussed. It's been discussed a lot.
00:55:41
Speaker 5: It's quite possible.
00:55:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the similarities are just so stark. They are. I mean, as his dad, they were both in their 30s, early 30s, when they first ran for office. Secretary of state's office was the, the office, uh, You know, did that for two years and then ran for governor in two years. Mike Braun will be running for governor again. So it's a very real possibility. But we won't. Of course, Ryan Mears, you know, speaking of running for Ryan Mears, our Marion County prosecutor, he he won handily yesterday. And there is talk. about him running for mayor of the city of Indianapolis next year. He said on the show, when I asked him did he have aspirations to become the next mayor or to run for mayor, he said what any good politician's gonna say. I wanna focus on my, they will never tell you until they're ready to tell you, right?
00:56:36
Speaker 12: That's true, they will not.
00:56:37
Speaker 5: They will not.
00:56:38
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:56:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got him.
00:56:39
Speaker 7: You've already got a couple of police people in the race, right? Vop Osley.
00:56:43
Speaker 3: Vop Osley and- Osley, yeah. And- Andrea Hundley.
00:56:49
Speaker 7: Former state senator, correct?
00:56:52
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, former state senator, Andrea Hundley. Yes, indeedy, indeedy.
00:56:57
Speaker 7: Or is she current? Is she still in office?
00:57:02
Speaker 5: I don't know.
00:57:06
Speaker 3: I think she announced that she would not seek re-election, I think.
00:57:10
Speaker 5: Did she?
00:57:11
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, let's go to that.
00:57:13
Speaker 4: Check it out and see between the three of.
00:57:15
Speaker 5: Us, huh?
00:57:15
Speaker 3: Who gets it first? I need that music right now.
00:57:21
Speaker 12: Let's see.
00:57:29
Speaker 5: See, she represents District 46, right?
00:57:31
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:57:31
Speaker 6: In 2022.
00:57:32
Speaker 12: Yes.
00:57:32
Speaker 3: She's still in there.
00:57:34
Speaker 6: I was correct.
00:57:34
Speaker 3: She will not seek re-election. That's what she said.
00:57:37
Speaker 5: I got it.
00:57:39
Speaker 2: You got it.
00:57:39
Speaker 6: Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:57:40
Speaker 2: All right.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: We are correct. We got to get her on here, too, as well as anyone else. now that the election is over. But, you know, it's just so many races to go through where, you know, Democrat, what? Democrat, what? You know, all over the country here in Indianapolis, in the state of Indiana, the statehouse, things of that nature. You know, it's... James and Eric, what do you guys think? Do you think that this is something that will.
00:58:14
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, wake up Republicans in terms of their, uh, an unwavering loyalty to Donald Trump and Trumpism, you know, start with Braun and getting rid of DEI because of project 2025 and what Donald Trump wants, or do you think that they're going to ignore last night's results and continue business as usual? Do you think it'll make any difference?
00:58:37
Speaker 4: I think it would wake them up. It's like to go, Hey, you know, wait a minute, this really happened. Um, People aren't pleased. Gas prices, food prices, everything.
00:58:47
Speaker 6: Wars.
00:58:48
Speaker 4: So people, I would say they feel, and there are some in the party, Republican Party, who did go the other way. They split and decided to go with Democrats. So I think that that's very likely.
00:59:01
Speaker 3: What do you think, James?
00:59:03
Speaker 5: Well, I think that, you know, some of them stand out.
00:59:10
Speaker 11: Home.
00:59:10
Speaker 7: And as long as the party is led by this man, they're never going to get behind him because of what he's done, because he lied so much and he continues to lie. However, I don't think that that means the Republican Party is not viable anymore. It is, but they have to find somebody to lead them who will represent all the people, whether it's a Democrat or Republican. If you don't care about the people, you don't have any business of being up there.
00:59:39
Speaker 5: That's true. Now, I do feel like.
00:59:42
Speaker 7: This is a turning point. I don't feel like they're going to dominate people who want to oppress people. whatever color they are, if they want to oppress other people, I don't think they're ever going to be in power again. And I think I do think this is a turning point in that we've got something here because I think the younger people are not going to stand for it. And they're the ones who are coming up are going to be the next generation.
01:00:07
Speaker 6: OK, OK.
01:00:08
Speaker 5: Dr.
01:00:08
Speaker 4: Peen's granddaughter, she voted for the first time.
01:00:13
Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
01:00:13
Speaker 12: Yolanda Renee.
01:00:14
Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful.
01:00:15
Speaker 4: She expressed that voting for the first time is a very meaningful day.
01:00:19
Speaker 3: It always is. Very good.
01:00:21
Speaker 2: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:00:22
Speaker 3: What do you think? What are your thoughts regarding last night's elections and the results?
01:00:25
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:00:33
Speaker 3: The Democratic wave, the Democratic wave, even here in the state of Indiana. Indianapolis and Marion County, not so much of a surprise, but throughout the state, statewide offices. That's interesting because Bo Bai didn't get in office statewide with just Democratic votes.
01:00:51
Speaker 4: I didn't expect what happened in Hamilton County to happen.
01:00:55
Speaker 3: I was unsure. I was surprised by that.
01:00:58
Speaker 5: You know, they redrew that district.
01:01:02
Speaker 6: Yes!
01:01:02
Speaker 3: Wasn't that funny? But didn't we see that pattern in other places around the country?
01:01:08
Speaker 7: It backfired on them.
01:01:10
Speaker 3: Yes! They redrew these maps and it backfired. because yeah i mean you can group people however you want to group them but you can't make them you you can't tell people how they feel and how they should you just can't do.
01:01:22
Speaker 4: It i think i remember asking abdul that question when he was on with us tina what would happen if they were people to they read through the districts but what if they uh that's not going to make me and that's kind of what happened yeah.
01:01:34
Speaker 3: But speaking of which i i know abdul is supposed to join us at some point in time today he uh He's also a college professor and teaches classes, so he may be running a little bit late. So if we do hear from him, we'll get him right on. If not, we'll just save him for another day. Like I said, we've heard from a Democratic strategist. I'd love to hear from a Republican point of view.
01:01:56
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: Oh, okay. We have Larry.
01:01:57
Speaker 6: Larry, go ahead.
01:01:57
Speaker 9: How are you?
01:02:07
Speaker 3: Larry, did you vote in the election?
01:02:10
Speaker 12: I vote every time that the possibility comes up legally.
01:02:15
Speaker 3: I figured you did. Okay, that's good.
01:02:17
Speaker 12: I'm just happy for the Democrats that they won every night and they had the massacre last night. But, you know, that comes with a great responsibility because the first thing they're going to do when Akeem Jeffrey becomes the Speaker of the House is He has powers, but he don't have enough votes to overrule vetoes, so they're going to have to do some dealing. And I'm glad that that happened because we have a divided government right now. But here in the state of Indiana, I'm glad to see that the Democrats have got off their hands and start running somebody to break that supermajority in the– House of Representatives than our state, because that's been nothing but destructive to this ever since Mitch Daniels. A lot of the subjects that you bring up on this program is due to Mitch Daniels. What he done, he done major moves. That's why our infrastructure is falling apart. He done right to work. That's why our labor is being undermined here in this state. He done property tax caps. A lot of people just don't know about property tax caps. What happens is corporations don't pay any taxes whatsoever, and the General Assembly has no jurisdiction over them. So now we're being played a game with these referendums that the burden of– that's half of the budget, right, Dina, that is funding K-12 tax. in this state is being shifted to the backs of our property. That's never supposed to happen. You know, what it started out as, is the corporations were paying their taxes up front, and there wasn't so many 501c3s for them to shuck it off. You know, a corporation like Lilly's that gives all these grants and stuff, they need to pay their taxes up front. when they get the money, so we can have the money in our coffers. But they don't do that right now. They just shuffle it off and play it off, giving it to certain charities and stuff, and don't pay not one dime of taxes. It's economic, voodoo economics. Just like George Bush said, there's going to be no trickle down. The Democrats, I'm looking forward to seeing their performance in the House this year. I'm over there every year looking in on them, but they have... where they can stop some legislation if they get enough people in there that'll go along with them, but they definitely don't have as much power as they should have. The thing about it is, I remember when white right to work came, they were able to shut the whole show down to try to block it, but that destroyed our labor. Mitch Daniels is on the hook. I don't see why, but people are scared of him, you know? Him and Britt Hirschman... Pro Tem Long and Speaker Bosma and Luke Kenley engineered the tax caps here in this state. We're not going to go anywhere until they repeal that because you're going to have the budgets of these cities and towns. Cut back every year. You're going to have the common school fund being drained dry and just keep on going. And, you know, Andrew Hanley, she was one of the main people that that defunded IPS. Anyway, I think Brian Mears needs to run for mayor.
01:05:43
Speaker 3: Larry, here's my question of you. And you didn't really answer it the last time we talked. Are you considering running for political office during the next elections, which is coming up in 2027, including mayor? I'm running for mayor.
01:05:57
Speaker 12: I am going to run for mayor.
01:05:59
Speaker 3: Are you declaring it now? Are you saying now you're going?
01:06:03
Speaker 12: No, I'm not doing it. Well, you know what it is.
01:06:04
Speaker 3: You just said it.
01:06:06
Speaker 12: Well, I'm saying I'm running for mayor, but you know it's not official.
01:06:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not official until the paperwork is done.
01:06:21
Speaker 12: That cares about the people. Brian looks like he cares about people on a personal level.
01:06:26
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. And James, please, if you have a question for Larry. You say you're going to run. You've got to file the paperwork to make it official. On the positive side, Larry, what is it that you would do if you're mayor?
01:06:40
Speaker 12: Here's the main thing I would do, Tina. I would go to our Constitution where there's a mandate in the Constitution where any county, that's Marion County, We can set up asylum farms to deal with these homeless people and all these drug-addicted people that are in our streets right now, out there shrunk out on dopes. Sometimes they're going in front of a judge, just like you talked about criminalizing homelessness. You know, the attorneys from the city of Indianapolis, I see them over at the legislature all the time lobbying for certain things. They lobby for that. That's what they've done.
01:07:16
Speaker 3: James, do you have a question?
01:07:17
Speaker 12: You can look at Greg Taylor in the Senate. And look at Cherish Pryor and them over in the House of Representatives. They lobby for that.
01:07:25
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, James. If you have a question, if not, then we can move on.
01:07:28
Speaker 5: Go ahead. Yeah, just a quick question, Larry. I was intrigued by what you were saying about the taxes. So you're saying that the tax caps, and I saw, too, a lot of IPS's referendum passed, but a lot of others failed. So are you saying that the way that the taxes are construed now with the caps, that that's really hurting, as you call it, the common school fund or public schools?
01:07:56
Speaker 12: It's shifting the burden. When I ran for school board, I thoroughly researched it. You know how the schools are supposed to be paid for. You remember we used to get green stamps, James Peterson?
01:08:10
Speaker 11: Okay.
01:08:10
Speaker 12: Now, one stamp was 20 mils. That's a penny, 20 mils to make a penny, okay? So what they have the computer system set up now so that everybody, instead of forcing us to pay at gunpoint for the common schools, they had it where everybody paid in increments, like you go buy a loaf of bread, pay two mils for that. You buy something else, two or three meals, a graduated tax system where everybody contribute to the education because in 1851, that's what our Constitution set it up to be. So everybody was contributing. We have a common school fund now that has almost $ 3 billion, and they're trying to loot that right now. So you know, people need to be informed.
01:08:58
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay.
01:08:59
Speaker 12: Asylum farms.
01:09:00
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you.
01:09:01
Speaker 12: Asylum farms.
01:09:02
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Larry.
01:09:03
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
01:09:04
Speaker 12: Article 9, Section 3.
01:09:05
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Larry. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
01:09:09
Speaker 7: Tina, before you go to your next guest or your comment, just a little bit of breaking news from the Indianapolis Star just posted here. Let's see, September 4th, 131. So a little over 45 minutes ago, about 45 minutes ago, Indiana Democrats pick up second statewide race win with Comptroller.
01:09:31
Speaker 5: That's right. That's right.
01:09:32
Speaker 7: Thank you, Eric.
01:09:33
Speaker 5: With Comptroller.
01:09:34
Speaker 7: Republican Comptroller Elise Nishala, an incumbent, conceded to her Democratic challenger Jessica Bailey in a post to X today.
01:09:45
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:09:46
Speaker 7: Around midday. So making the auditors race the second statewide seat to flip from red to blue, you know, the first being the secretary of state, which we've been talking about, Bo Vai. Democrats won in a big historic night across the country. So just a little bit of breaking news there.
01:10:05
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, the hits keep coming, don't they?
01:10:08
Speaker 5: Yes, they do.
01:10:09
Speaker 3: Wow. And you know what? It also explains the long lines, don't you think? It explained people were just tired and wanted to say, though they were, they were tired and wanted to say something. Indeed. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. Nyla, go ahead.
01:10:27
Speaker 11: How are you?
01:10:27
Speaker 5: I am doing fine. I'm sorry. Yesterday I was in there and I was like, let me get into the polls. I had been to several locations to kind of look at what the poll was like. Weatherston didn't have anybody. Um, there was a place on Pia's right there off of, uh, um, 20, not 24th and Pia's. Jay didn't have anybody at the fire station. And, um, West Lane didn't have anybody. So that was my goal. But by the time I did that and was waiting on hold, I was like, you better go in there and go get these, uh, need an encyclopedia to surf, to sift through those questions that they were asking that I had heard about. But I was thinking even as, um, Larry was talking about the Article 9, Section 3 about common schools and all. I was thinking that is one of the things I'm hoping if– what's the attorney you're waiting to maybe hear from?
01:11:23
Speaker 3: Oh, Abdul. Yeah, Abdul Hakim Shabazz.
01:11:27
Speaker 5: Maybe he can bring some clarity over those different articles about the judges and about the– the one that they want to know if somebody had committed a treason or murder and all that.
01:11:40
Speaker 3: Oh, question one. Yeah, amendment. Yeah, constitutional amendment, question one.
01:11:44
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:11:45
Speaker 5: No, question one was about giving IPS more money.
01:11:49
Speaker 3: No, question one. Question one was about bail. The referendum was further down in the ballot. It was public question number one.
01:11:59
Speaker 12: Oh, wow.
01:11:59
Speaker 3: Now, that's And then it was public.
01:12:01
Speaker 5: Because it was first on mine, you know, but they would talk about these little glitches. But that question was first.
01:12:07
Speaker 3: On my IPS referendum was the first question.
01:12:10
Speaker 5: It was the first one. I was at school. Sixty one. That was my last time.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: I've never. That's the first I've heard that because it's supposed to be across the across the entire state. You know, Indiana State public question number one and Indiana State public question number two.
01:12:29
Speaker 5: Okay. Well, this is really, really, really strange. And it could be. You know, that's one of my areas where I'm going, why are you guys trying to give them some more money? Alicia is sitting there. She knows she loves charter. She came from charter. And I'm talking about Ms. Johnson. And everything she does is a charter focus. And it's my hope, because why are we just like they have the new board now?
01:12:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was IPEC.
01:12:57
Speaker 5: Here you are paying $ 300, 000 to the new person. She makes $ 200, 000 or close to $ 300, 000 herself. So why is over half a million going to these two folks when they're dismantling the district?
01:13:15
Speaker 3: I don't think... Yeah, I don't think Superintendent Johnson has any control over that. I think that there were, you know, some others that were criticized for setting the salary price points as high as they did for not only the IPEC.
01:13:29
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about her tendency to continue to give our schools over to charter schools. You know, everybody has to remember that was her job. She, that was when she was under, when she was under therapy, she was over the innovative schools. She was the one coming saying, yes, this one needs to go to charter. And I, you know, I was there when they gave 42 away. The biggest contention I had with 42 was the fact when they took Ignite out, because that's who had 42. When they took 42 out, Then they were getting ready. They said they're not coming up to par. Let's get Ignite out of 42. So as superintendent of the Indianapolis Public Schools, she should have put in IPS administration. Did that happen? No. It's under Liberty Grove. They put in another charter. So that within itself, no stand for your own administration, no stand for your own IPS administration. teachers and classroom assistants, custodians, all the people that make the school run. You did not put your people in. You put in another charter. You did not advocate for putting in your own people. You put in another charter. That's why she needs to GO, because she's been complicit in all of this stuff, and she's assisted in it. She even made mention of talking about, they're talking about she got enrolled in this, she's no longer enrolled in this. You know, Enroll Indy sat right there in the IPS building up until last year. So you didn't advocate to get them out, to stop letting our attendance, our enrollment go to, because it's Enroll Indy blanket. They're a blanket enrollment. They can send you anywhere that they claim they're helping you send you to the best choice for you and your child. No, you are part of dismantling the district. So I'm tired of her getting this passed. Because she's working right along, right along with all the folks that are dismantling the district. And she's handing them the hatchets, sharpening the hatchets, and using the hatchets herself. So I'm going to continue to say that because the district has been totally drained of almost all its resources. The other thing I want to talk about on the amendment, I mean on this, give the money to IPSC. Several people have overlooked that, the money they're talking about. The charter is supposed to get like 48, and IPS is supposed to get 46. So already you're giving them more. Secondly, what people are overlooking, IPS is already doing transportation for them. IPS is already giving them a building. IPS also helps when they need special ed educators, because a lot of times the charters don't take the special ed kids. So that folds back under the IPS umbrella. So I'm really just so tired of the fact that we watched this district get chopped into pieces, and it has yet continued. But I'm so excited the Democrats have gotten it where there's no supermajority going on. And as several people have already said, now let's say get to work. Let's not take this time and let it be wasted because these bills that chopped the district up, other bills can be put up where we can get things fixed. And when you're talking about the money that they give in vouchers, you can make over $ 150, 000 a year and still get a voucher to send your child to private school. That's another drain. So it's like, let's keep, while we're watching this mental public education, they're still making stuff for the wealthy to get over. And that's the thing that we have to understand as we look at talking to our legislators, going down to those meetings. And I was really glad to hear that Larry was on point today and I haven't been able to hear as much. But the information he gives about these articles and Indiana law and all of that, I think he almost has a whole long library. So when he's not way out with that other stuff, he comes right to the table for good information. Larry, I just have to say thank you. And those people that have asked me to call, I haven't gotten there yet, but I will hopefully for this week get those folks called.
01:18:02
Speaker 6: Thank you for.
01:18:03
Speaker 5: What you do, Eric. Thank you for what you do. All that you do, Tina, all the other gentlemen that work with you as well, all of that work, it helps us get information to one another. Because what we have going on, we have to be more informed. We have to know what's going on in our schools, in our homes. and all of our life events. And definitely stay prayerful, because we got, just like right now, I don't know if you guys have talked about it, because I want to get to hear you here and there, but have they talked about the 90-day, where they're talking about the grids going out? They've been telling the military to prepare for 90 days for everything to be shut down. So for the people who are not getting ready for this winter, as far as stocking up on things and all of that, not trying to scare you. But please be aware that Iran is not playing with the crazy stuff Trump did. And so we need to be more mindful in preparation, you know, not no scare tactics, just being realistic over what can happen with cyber attacks and all those kinds of things. And so maybe you can have somebody that can come in And just talk to people about, you know, making those kinds of preparations. It's not shocking. You know, even in the Bible, there's a point when they knew a famine was coming for seven years. They made preparations for it. So I thank you, Tina.
01:19:28
Speaker 3: Nyla, if I can, and thank you. Thank you for calling. We have a listener who would like to get in touch with you. So if you could stay on the line, Eric is going to pass along their information to you. Okay.
01:19:44
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:19:44
Speaker 3: So yeah, don't hang up. All right. Thanks for, thanks for getting back.
01:19:48
Speaker 5: Thank you.
01:19:48
Speaker 3: All right. Thank you. All right.
01:19:50
Speaker 5: I said, thank you too. I didn't say it.
01:19:53
Speaker 3: He's right here. You're welcome.
01:19:55
Speaker 7: You're always so, you're always so welcome. You're always so knowledgeable.
01:19:59
Speaker 5: Thank you.
01:20:00
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
01:20:02
Speaker 5: All right.
01:20:03
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
01:20:05
Speaker 5: All right.
01:20:06
Speaker 9: Thank you.
01:20:06
Speaker 3: Bye bye. And just got this from Abdul. He's stuck in a news conference. He said, let's chat tomorrow. I'll have better content. So it sounds like he's going to have more information tomorrow. We all will have more information tomorrow.
01:20:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, that works.
01:20:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it works for me too. Tomorrow or Friday, Noah and Abdul, it's whenever we can get to him. Whenever we can get to him, indeed. Let's take a quick break right here, James, and come back with that. Boy, I cannot believe we're coming down the homestretch already.
01:20:34
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
01:20:34
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indie IndieGo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
01:21:02
Speaker 3: And we are back this day after the big day. James Patterson, our contributing analyst, is with us, as is our producer, Eric Garnet.
01:21:13
Speaker 6: Hello.
01:21:14
Speaker 3: Hello, hello, hello. I guess I'll get my feeling back. I still feel kind of numb. You know, it's hard to.
01:21:22
Speaker 1: Huh?
01:21:23
Speaker 5: Pinch her, pinch her.
01:21:24
Speaker 3: Pinch me, it's just.
01:21:25
Speaker 4: I'll have to run over to the studio.
01:21:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's that I psych myself up into thinking, don't expect too much, you know. Expect little and you're seldom disappointed is kind of the mindset there. So I was just, you know, expecting it to be pretty even. I don't know how many of us could have expected that. Like I said, other than James Carville, who was behind a couple of cocktails.
01:21:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, James Carville. He's always been unique.
01:21:51
Speaker 3: You know, the most interesting thing about him is his marriage because he's a staunch Democrat and he married a staunch Republican. And they were both bigwigs in their party at the time. That's right. And they made it work for years. It worked for years. They just said they never discussed politics at home and the rest of it was their marriage. So it worked out. Still married. I think they're still married.
01:22:15
Speaker 5: Wow.
01:22:16
Speaker 11: Yeah.
01:22:16
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:22:17
Speaker 5: It can be done.
01:22:18
Speaker 3: So I hear. Shows it can be done. So I hear. So I hear. Indeed.
01:22:29
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
01:22:30
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
01:22:30
Speaker 3: You know, last night's results sure made you feel good, though, about getting out there, getting involved in voting and saying something. I don't care. You know, the first time, third, whatever, you have to feel good about wearing that sticker proudly, you know, I voted.
01:22:43
Speaker 5: I voted.
01:22:46
Speaker 7: And it shows you, Eric, Tina, what we've been preaching year after year, that the power of the vote, the power of the vote can change lives, and it changed lives all across this country. We said it in just the last half an hour, the last segment, Indiana Democrats not only elected Beau Bayh, I think that I read that the first Democrat elected since in the last.
01:23:16
Speaker 5: What was it?
01:23:16
Speaker 7: It's been over 10 years. I think it's been– it's definitely been over 10 years, first statewide. They picked up today a second statewide race by electing a controller, the controller, the state controller. So that means that although the Democrats hold the attorney general's office– For this next cycle, and let me see, was it Comptroller, the Secretary of State, Attorney General, what's the other one statewide? But it means that Democrats will have a significant toehold on power in the state. Oh, okay, yeah, the governors and the Attorney General with Republicans, but the Secretary of State and the Comptroller's office, those are two powerful offices, two powerful offices. And they are now with the opposite party. So you don't have one party just running roughshod over everybody else.
01:24:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:24:18
Speaker 3: Democratic challenger Jessica Bailey wins for Indiana State Comptroller, defeating incumbent Republican Elise Nishala in the November election. She beat her by 45,000 votes.
01:24:33
Speaker 5: Ooh.
01:24:33
Speaker 6: Wow.
01:24:33
Speaker 5: Wow.
01:24:38
Speaker 3: That's what it says.
01:24:40
Speaker 5: 45,000.
01:24:40
Speaker 3: 45,000 votes.
01:24:42
Speaker 6: Wow.
01:24:42
Speaker 5: Man.
01:24:43
Speaker 3: That had to be deliberate.
01:24:44
Speaker 9: That is.
01:24:46
Speaker 3: Had to be deliberate. And we love it, you know, because people are thinking, you know, they're going down the ballot. I'm a little confused, though. We might like to ask somebody about how Nyla's ballot showed the referendum before.
01:25:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I chose.
01:25:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, the referendum before the public question one and two.
01:25:04
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:25:05
Speaker 3: That's a good point, yeah. Got to figure that out.
01:25:10
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Becky, go ahead. Do you have a comment or a question?
01:25:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, just saying that I was an inspector yesterday, and it was a good day. You know, everybody was cordial no matter what happened. I never saw the questions as more than one was about bail. Two was about the....
01:25:33
Speaker 3: Judges, residency, residency requirements for judges.
01:25:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then, of course, because people can vote anywhere in the county, every so often somebody was looking and going, where's IPS on here or where's this candidate or something? And I'm like, well, depending on where you live, you may not have had that question on your ballot.
01:25:53
Speaker 12: You know.
01:25:54
Speaker 5: But it looks like it was a great day for democracy and around– They said that every state that did Trump's bidding and had redistricted their, you know, gerrymandered, every single one of those went Democratic. Is that right?
01:26:17
Speaker 3: That's funny.
01:26:17
Speaker 5: That's a downy.
01:26:19
Speaker 3: That is, yeah.
01:26:20
Speaker 5: And so I think that's hilarious that, you know, and to think that Elon Musk spent, you Over $ 250 million in one state. And it still didn't go the way they wanted it to go, you know. Think of how.
01:26:38
Speaker 3: Many more families could have been able to stay on health care.
01:26:41
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about that all morning and everything.
01:26:45
Speaker 3: All the things you.
01:26:46
Speaker 5: Could have done to make the world a better place for everybody.
01:26:49
Speaker 3: And wanting power and control.
01:26:51
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:26:51
Speaker 11: Yeah.
01:26:52
Speaker 5: And the Democrats, you know, while I'm celebrating and everything, they've got a huge pressure on them now.
01:27:00
Speaker 3: Yes, they do.
01:27:02
Speaker 5: They've got two years to at least try and write some of the ship or something enough, because if they if they fail. It doesn't matter who they're going to put up on that ballot. They'll probably lose or it'll be easier for them to lose. Yeah, because they'll say we gave you all a chance and you still didn't. You know, nothing's any better than it was before. And but I I hope that and I know it's not going to happen. Everybody has said this, too. They look at me and go, that's not going to happen because power and money are just too enticing, I think. they've got to put the Constitution and the government and the people ahead of self. And that's where they're going to fail us, I think. They need to put in, like, term limits. There need to be term limits. They need to put in an age limit. 75 is more than enough in all of the jobs, including the Supreme Court. At 75, we thank you for your service, and it's time to go. and find another way to serve if you still want to be in public service like that. And they need an HR department that has teeth. And if you're out for any reason for more than 30 or 60 days, you have to take a cognitive test to prove that you can come back and do your job. You know, when you're doing a job that affects the whole country and the world like this, you know, They need an HR department, and I know they can still mess with that, but they need an HR department that has... teeth, and they need to report to us on a monthly basis their attendance and what they voted on and what they didn't, so that we can say, hey, they were in session for 90 days, and our person was only there for 45. Where were the other 45s? They did 50 votes, and they were only there for 20. Where were they for the other 30 votes? Because most of the time we don't know about that until it's election time, and it's their opponent that's telling us.
01:29:12
Speaker 3: Well, I think that some of that is tracked online on the daily, on the regular. Am I correct, James?
01:29:17
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:29:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they're in session, you can go and see what they're doing and who votes.
01:29:23
Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
01:29:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, and people like us, you know, we pay close attention to that. They've got C-SPAN where you can.
01:29:29
Speaker 5: Actually watch the House in session.
01:29:32
Speaker 7: And the Senate in session. Well, I know what you're saying. You make a lot of good points, Becky. You know, the people need more transparency because people were... One of the things that was high up on the list was corruption, and people are just not going to put up with that.
01:29:44
Speaker 5: No, they'll retire of it, and So we'll see what happens, and I just hope they do the right things and do some things to protect the Constitution because this guy has just ran ramshackle over it. And I keep telling people I'm going to start the GoFundMe to tear down the big, ugly ballroom. And you're welcome to pay, you know, give some money to help us do it. But, yeah, I think those are the main things. And, Larry, thank you when you ran for school board because he brought so many. He would call in on your show now, but Community Connection. And he would call in when they did the debates and stuff. He was the only person up there telling the truth about a lot of the stuff that was going on. I was a teacher at the time, and he was talking about all the stuff I already knew about. And he would call in. I remember sometimes the person running was on your show, not your show, but Community Connection. And they'd call in, he'd call in and ask questions.
01:30:56
Speaker 3: My show is Community Connection.
01:30:58
Speaker 5: But, you know, before you, it was.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay, I got you.
01:31:03
Speaker 5: That's what I meant, because that was a while back.
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Okay, got you.
01:31:06
Speaker 5: But he would call in and ask a question, because what was it, that red schoolhouse thing, or somebody was trying to load up the board with people. You know, there were operatives that were trying to get onto the board. And he would come in and call or whatever it was and just bring out these facts. And the other person, like if it was over the radio, you could just feel the other person's eyes getting big like he's not supposed to talk about that. And I really think it changed everything. I think it really made a difference in that election at that time. Thank you, Larry, for that one.
01:31:45
Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Becky. Appreciate it. And thanks for all you've done during the election and beyond and for future elections as well. So thank you for staying involved. Appreciate it.
01:31:55
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
01:31:56
Speaker 3: DJ, go ahead.
01:31:57
Speaker 5: How are you?
01:31:57
Speaker 6: Good.
01:31:57
Speaker 11: Hello?
01:31:57
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:31:57
Speaker 3: Hello. I'm doing good, Gina. How are you? I'm doing okay. Thank you.
01:32:00
Speaker 12: Thanks.
01:32:10
Speaker 9: I appreciate your effort in demanding people to get out and vote. Your commitment is incredible, how you do that.
01:32:16
Speaker 5: And I'm grateful for you.
01:32:17
Speaker 12: Well, thank you.
01:32:18
Speaker 7: Thank you for demonstrating that.
01:32:21
Speaker 9: I'd like to say, though, the thing I think we need to focus on as people in the United States is they have to abolish these Israelis giving money to our legislatures. There's over 500 out of 580 are receiving AIPAC money. And they're both sides, like Schumer and Jeffries. They're all getting... So it's killing us. And then the second thing is they need to abolish Citizens United. And it's like Musk gave $ 500 million to try to get Tallarico beat. That has to end.
01:32:58
Speaker 5: They can't let.
01:32:59
Speaker 9: You know, how about just the small mom and pops, like, you know, giving the cash instead of these allegorics?
01:33:05
Speaker 5: And.
01:33:06
Speaker 9: The other thing is, like, the man from Michigan that won in Tallarico, they don't accept AIPAC money. But as soon as they find dirt on them, just like the Democrat that the guy from Michigan defeated, she receives AIPAC money. She came out and just, you know, condemning him. And the national, not the media, the oligarch media control, they would not let it go, like, three days before the election. And then Graham Planner from Maine, no APAC money. Small dirt came out of him, and they just couldn't resist it. So I think those are the two things, you know, in your effort at getting people to vote.
01:33:48
Speaker 5: And no apathy.
01:33:49
Speaker 9: You have to do it. Because like those on Halloween in Huntington, Indiana, there was two people riding KKK outfits on horses.
01:33:59
Speaker 12: They vote.
01:34:01
Speaker 9: And so anybody that says your vote don't count is they're voting. So you got to keep voting. So I just think that, you know, what you've done is great. And I think it is helping, especially the younger people.
01:34:16
Speaker 3: OK, well, thank you, DJ. I appreciate it.
01:34:18
Speaker 11: All right.
01:34:19
Speaker 3: And for those of you. All right. Thank you. For those of you not familiar, when he mentions AIPAC, he's talking about AIPAC stands for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. It's an influential pro-Israel lobbying group in the United States. And I'm not sure how campaign finances, that's an interesting question because that's come up a few times before. And I'm not sure how campaign finance dictates who or how much or, you know, whatever you can, you know, take money from.
01:34:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, normally it does.
01:34:56
Speaker 7: It has a huge influence.
01:34:58
Speaker 5: He was right.
01:34:59
Speaker 7: I think Becky said over $ 250 million or we said it. was spent by Elon Musk in one state, and I think she was talking about, I know she was talking about Texas. And then DJ says that it was $ 500 million, whatever it was, it was an astronomical amount. And the Supreme Court allowed that in a recent decision to allow what they call super PACs, super PACs, Tina?
01:35:27
Speaker 12: Yes, yes.
01:35:28
Speaker 7: To spend an exorbitant amount.
01:35:31
Speaker 3: A PAC is a political action committee. That's what a PAC is. The PAC is a political election committee. Go ahead.
01:35:36
Speaker 7: Exorbitant amounts of money with no restraints, hardly any records, just money coming down from the sky and no accountability. And I agree that there should be some because that leads to corruption. And I also agree with DJ's comment about you've got to keep going. And I agree. I think if this showed anything, it shows that you can't sit out any elections, none, zero. This has to be ingrained in the culture of people, our people, that we need to vote each and every time we have that opportunity. It's just a moral and civic responsibility and duty, and we cannot let it go.
01:36:24
Speaker 3: Can't sit out anything. Cannot, cannot, cannot. So, but yeah.
01:36:31
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:36:32
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, and he said, and it was interesting, he said, you know, because you're trying to make a point about the two guys riding on horseback in Little Huntington, Indiana on Halloween.
01:36:40
Speaker 3: I saw a video of that. Did you see that online? Did you see that, Eric?
01:36:44
Speaker 4: I missed that one.
01:36:45
Speaker 5: I didn't see that.
01:36:46
Speaker 3: I heard about it.
01:36:47
Speaker 5: That's the first time I heard about it.
01:36:49
Speaker 9: No, I saw it.
01:36:49
Speaker 6: I didn't see it.
01:36:51
Speaker 3: I saw it. It was supposed to be Halloween. It was Halloween night. And it looked like a Klan rally.
01:36:57
Speaker 2: Wow.
01:36:58
Speaker 3: Fire, you know, fire burning.
01:36:59
Speaker 5: Well, his point was they vote. And so if we take off next year in the municipal elections, they're going to try to reverse the gains that we.
01:37:10
Speaker 6: Made last night. Can't let up.
01:37:12
Speaker 5: You better believe they're going to try to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:15
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm saying Democrats should not fumble the ball. They should not, you know, go for the old okey doke like, hey, let's shake hands and let. Have they been working like that with you prior to that when they were totally in control? No, no, no, no, no, no. And they won't. No, they won't. They won't. And if you've learned nothing, you should have learned that you're not dealing with statesmen. You're dealing with folks with an agenda and a plan. 2025, Project 2025. These folks have an agenda and a plan that is written down. I always love the when Kamala Harris was here in Indianapolis campaigning and talking about Project 2025. She was there at the podium and said, can you believe they put this in writing? Can you believe they put it in writing? But yes, they did. Right out there for the whole world to see. They're not making any bones about what they want and how they want it, how they want it. You know, the other thing, James, I was a little and Eric, I was a little concerned about. After last night, I know my mind goes probably too fast, too far ahead. The judges, uh the supreme court judges there have been rumblings uh you know here and there that alito might step down might retire and uh if they retire any of them retire now um they probably i don't know could they get this um nomination through before trump I mean, before the new Congress takes over in January. See what I'm saying?
01:38:51
Speaker 7: What nomination is that, Tina?
01:38:54
Speaker 3: A nomination of the Supreme Court. Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are the two that I'm thinking. And to preserve that conservative wing, I've just been concerned that they may go ahead and retire before the new Congress comes in, because theoretically... if they retire after the new Congress is in and Trump nominates someone, they're not going to get a nominate, you know, that, that Senate and you know, it's not going to go through because of the partisan, you see what I'm saying? Politics.
01:39:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, in.
01:39:30
Speaker 7: Practicality, they could, I mean, they could, they have the votes to do it. However, in, in, in reality, I don't think it'll happen because, Something shifted last night. This was not only, what do you call it, Eric, a blue wave.
01:39:50
Speaker 5: A tsunami. It's a mandate, okay? It's a mandate. It's like we reject the way we're going. It's a mandate.
01:39:59
Speaker 7: So that, in my view, should impact them as well. I think it would be very difficult for them to push somebody through right now. Although, like you said, in theory... They have the votes to do it. They only need a simple majority. Just getting somebody on the Supreme Court doesn't require the filibuster of 60. But I wanted to say that you guys were also saying about– What did she say? You said about Kamala Harris. Did you say, can you believe they put that in writing? And it reminds me of that movie I sometimes mention, Mississippi Burning, where Gene Hackman, who was an FBI agent, he.
01:40:39
Speaker 5: Said, these people crawl out of a sewer. William Defoe, Mr. Ward, Mr. Ward, they crawled out of a sewer.
01:40:48
Speaker 7: So that's the way we have to look at it.
01:40:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:40:52
Speaker 6: Well, yeah.
01:40:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that if lawmakers are smart, they would not push ridiculous nominees through, especially after what just happened. Because, you know, anybody that he recommends for the Supreme Court or nominates is going to be from the ridiculous to the sublime. I mean, it's just going to be a ridiculous person. So but I just wonder about that, that power play, trying to get that power play in, you I don't see any of his nominees if anybody retires over the next two years when the new Congress is in. I don't see how any of the nominees are going to get through.
01:41:33
Speaker 5: None of them.
01:41:34
Speaker 3: None of them would. Yeah. So would would it would they try to rush one or two through right now?
01:41:40
Speaker 5: And unless, you know, unless he picked one that was, you know, sort.
01:41:45
Speaker 3: Of moderate middle of the road.
01:41:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:41:47
Speaker 9: Moderate.
01:41:47
Speaker 7: Somebody that would be acceptable. To the majority that he will face in Congress.
01:41:52
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
01:41:52
Speaker 3: Trump doesn't roll like that. Uh-uh, no.
01:41:55
Speaker 12: No.
01:41:56
Speaker 3: Would Project 2025 want to put somebody moderate or middle of the road in there? The authors of Project 20—no.
01:42:02
Speaker 12: No.
01:42:04
Speaker 3: I don't see it, but I could be wrong. I don't know. My mind's going too fast. I'm thinking too far ahead.
01:42:08
Speaker 5: So I hope.
01:42:11
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen. So and I but I don't think that this is going to mellow the administration. I think it's kind of they're like a self mutating virus. They'll just look for another way. They're going to look for another way to do what they can do to do what they want to get away with.
01:42:27
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:42:28
Speaker 5: This morning he was already, you know, he's like, you know, if I'd have been on the ballot, this wouldn't have happened.
01:42:32
Speaker 3: Well, you said to vote like I'm on the ballot, and they did.
01:42:35
Speaker 6: That's what he said.
01:42:36
Speaker 3: And what was that they were saying this morning? You're fired. We voted. Yeah, you're fired.
01:42:41
Speaker 5: We did.
01:42:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. There you go. But, you know, he's a professional liar. So he's going to say he didn't say vote like I'm on the ballot. He also said cheat like you know what.
01:42:55
Speaker 12: He did.
01:42:56
Speaker 3: He did say that. He told him to cheat.
01:42:58
Speaker 7: President of the United States is promoting cheating. Really an honorable position there.
01:43:05
Speaker 3: But there are those that say, hey, that's my man.
01:43:11
Speaker 10: Right?
01:43:12
Speaker 12: Lead by example, I guess.
01:43:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, lead by example. Anyway, well, we're going to continue this because as Abdul did say, Abdul said, we're going to learn more by the day with each passing hour. I would suspect that between now and six o'clock tonight, we're going to have some new revelations. So we'll stay on top of it for you. But overall, let's give everybody that voted, everybody within the sound of our voice, let's give them a big round of applause because we are so, so happy.
01:43:39
Speaker 5: You get it.
01:43:40
Speaker 3: So, so happy. So, so proud of everybody that went to the polls. Oh, it's a double one. Yeah. Take a bow.
01:43:47
Speaker 11: Take a bow.
01:43:48
Speaker 12: Take a bow.
01:43:49
Speaker 3: We got work to do. Still a lot of work to do.
01:43:51
Speaker 5: Work to do. Work to be done.
01:43:53
Speaker 3: But we're going to do our part. We're going to continue to do our part. We thank you for doing yours. That was a beautiful thing that happened.
01:43:59
Speaker 5: Oh, wasn't it beautiful?
01:44:01
Speaker 10: It just warmed your heart.
01:44:02
Speaker 12: Yes.
01:44:02
Speaker 9: Oh, my goodness.
01:44:03
Speaker 7: I was trying to go to sleep. I was trying to go to bed, Eric.
01:44:05
Speaker 5: I couldn't get to the bedroom. I couldn't make it.
01:44:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't either.
01:44:09
Speaker 4: It was up until past midnight.
01:44:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.
01:44:13
Speaker 3: The last time I remember seeing the clock, it was about 2.30, something like that.
01:44:17
Speaker 9: Oh, you were up early.
01:44:18
Speaker 3: You were up early. Doing this. Here, okay.
01:44:21
Speaker 5: Right.
01:44:21
Speaker 3: People texting or calling, you know, texting, calling, texting. Can you believe? And my father was one of them because he said, I'm up past my bedtime, but I just had to let you know.
01:44:31
Speaker 1: I had to check it out.
01:44:33
Speaker 5: I had to, daughter.
01:44:34
Speaker 3: I had to. And that was around midnight. So I said, I know. What's wrong, Daddy? It was around midnight. But but he called and he was he said he couldn't stop watching the returns. But it was just.
01:44:48
Speaker 9: A thing of beauty.
01:44:49
Speaker 5: I mean, your dad's like he came through the time, right?
01:44:53
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
01:44:53
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:44:54
Speaker 3: He talks about when he they integrated the high school basketball team that he and his cousin, when they would go out to eat, you know, out of town games, he and his cousin had to take their meals on the bus because they weren't allowed in. in the same restaurant as the rest of the team. So, yeah, he's been through it.
01:45:10
Speaker 6: He knows. He's been through.
01:45:11
Speaker 3: You know, go to the movie theater and have to sit in the balcony, although I don't know if that's any punishment or not because a balcony seat is a good seat. But they didn't want the Negroes down there with the white people, so the Negroes had to be, you know, segregation. Yeah, yeah. He and my mother both told me many stories. I'm sure your parents.
01:45:32
Speaker 4: And family told you all about it.
01:45:33
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I heard stories, too. Yeah, yeah, so they know. They know. But anyway, that is all the time we have for right now. As always, thank you, thank you, thank you for listening. Thank you for voting. Thank you again for voting. We really appreciate it.
01:45:49
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed.
01:45:51
Speaker 3: Our website, praiseindy.com. Willie Moore Jr. on the radio is up next. Please continue. Be safe. Be well. And by all means, please continue to stay informed. For everyone here, I'm Tina Cosby, and you've been listening to Community Connection.
