Calling All Creatures Presents Project Freedom Ride: The Puppy Bus Chronicles

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Hey, good evening everybody, and welcome to Calling Out Creatures.
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I'm your host, LORI as probably a lot of you
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know that actually listening to the podcast, and tonight I
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am excited to be talking with Roman and Jennifer mccn
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And they, huh, did you say close?
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Sorry? I was just saying hello, oh hello.
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I thought I maybe had gotten your name wrong and
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you said close. Hey, it happens sometimes I try to
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get it if I haven't asked it beforehand, I try
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to get it as close as possible. Anyway, I'm sorry,
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Jen was saying hello. So Jen and Roman. Jen is
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Roman's mom, and Roman kind of started Project Freedom Ride,
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which is some transporting animals between Georgia and Texas and
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stuff when he was like four years old, which is phenomenal,
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I think because for someone to have that kind of
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passion at four years old, which I obviously know his
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family had to help out with that. But he's been
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doing it now for ten years, almost eleven, because he's
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fourteen now, going to be soon fifteen. And so I'm
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really stoked to talk to these guys today and find
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out more about Project Freedom Right and how they got
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this all going and all the in and outs of it. So, hey,
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you guys, thanks for being on the program, and I
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appreciate it and welcome.
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Thank thank you for having us.
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So just to kind of get it out there for listeners,
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you know who may be hearing about Project Freedom Right
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for the first time. What was what's your mission? And
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you know, how did you guys get this all started?
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And everything? You know, and helping to get animals into
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new homes.
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So that started when I was just four years old.
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We lived in Texas.
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My dad was military, so he was stationed there and
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we were walking out of a local pet smart and
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there was a whole bunch of dogs in crates and
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so I asked why they were there.
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My parents had to explain to me that the shelter
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brings them there to try to get them homes, because
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if they can't.
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Find them homes, then they have to put them down
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and the dogs have to go to heaven. So in
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my tiny four year old mind, the simplest thing to
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do was just go get them home. So we started
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going to the shelters making videos with the dogs. My
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mom would just like post them on her Facebook page.
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And then we moved to Washington State in twenty sixteen.
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Obviously it's kind of hard to help Texas dogs when
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you're in Washington State. And at that time there was
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a lot less adopter or a lot less dogs in
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Washington State, but a lot a lot more adopts.
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Sorry, I got myself is there?
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Yeah.
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So in December of twenty sixteen, we started Project Freedom
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Right to transport dogs from Texas up to Washington State,
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get our first transport of thirty one dogs, and since
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then we.
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Have held over fifty five underdogs. So it's it's been
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quite the journey.
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You know, I gotta say, just listening, do you say
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that in your four year old brain, the thing that
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made the most sense was to get those dogs homes?
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You know, that is just words of wisdom coming from
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a four year old at that point. If more people
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thought like that, can you just imagine the turnaround we
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would have on what's happening with our animals going into shelters.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, I mean it was only that simple.
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Yeah exactly, But you know, and like I said, you know,
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coming from you as a four year old, that's really
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how simple it really is and was, and you guys
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moved ahead and with you know, with your mom and
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dad helping out and everything, and you started doing this
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great thing to help these animals. And that's just you know,
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not a lot of people do that. They talk a
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lot and and think about things, but they don't actually
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take action. A lot of times, you know, they sit
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and talk more than they take action. So I think
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it's just awesome that you, as a four year old kid,
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was like, let's do something, let's take action, let's go.
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You know, that's just awesome.
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So I think his mom, that's what like I am
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raped the most was I wanted to raise a kid
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that didn't be a problem and complain about it. It's
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not rather stop problem and the action. I wanted to
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really rally behind that because they think often an adult,
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you take a whole of reason why we can't do
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something like it's very easy to talk to yourself out
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of something, even if you have really good attentions or
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something really bothers you. I think our brains is adults
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are different. In a child brain, you see the problem
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and you see the solution in its most simplest form,
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and adults tend to overcomplicate things. And so I really
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wanted to allow him to try and make a difference
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and see kind of the fruits of his labor early on,
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and let that be something that can like stick with
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him even outside of rescue. If you see something wrong
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or do you want something like make it, make it happen,
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don't just complain about.
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It, right, right? And So, what kind of was the
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first thing that went through your mind when Roman came
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to you and said, hey, mom, we need to save
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these dogs, and we need to we need to save
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a lot of these dogs. I mean, it's it's a
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pretty You guys have been doing phenomenally since you started this.
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So what was kind of your first thoughts with that.
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It's funny because my disclaimer when people ask about Project
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green Wright has to be careful what your child talks
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you into, because I definitely didn't anticipate this. I definitely
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didn't anticipate us to be going. Project green Ride has
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existed for ten years. Almost this December will be ten years,
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because he has done rescue for eleven years.
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But he.
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In the beginning, it was pretty simple because of where
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we were.
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We didn't have the transport program for the first year.
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It was just a matter of just Roman kind of
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showcasing these dogs from a four year old perspective.
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We did adoption events.
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Over time, we've kind of changed our respective changes.
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You kind of see what works and doesn't work.
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We had contracted transporters that didn't work well, so we
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eventually brought that program in house.
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None of it is economical, I joke.
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I never wanted to be a business owner, and then
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I had the worst business model.
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Ever and became a nonprofit.
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But it's been a crazy journey, Like it is something
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that has taught Roman public speaking. Roman is an only child,
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but incredibly social. It has taught him responsibility and companionship
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and empathy, like all these things that I'm super grateful for.
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I think if my self now could go back, you know,
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ten years and talk to who I like, Ben, I'd
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feel like buffle up because you have no idea that
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the pride.
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Your go on.
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What at that kind of I just wanted to embrace
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all of it, whatever he wanted to do, Like we
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really rallied behind him, and so we tried to approach
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it as simple as his mind made it. But it's
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definitely over the years that's gotten harder. I mean, as
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I'm sure you you know, like rescue and the Animal
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Walk home in general.
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Is really hard now, So yeah.
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You just I also think we just have always focused
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on we do what we can, and that's all.
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We can't focus on what we aren't able to do.
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We just have to focus on you know, like the
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fifty five hundred and roughly we've been able to help, Like,
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we just really focus.
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On that, right, And that's really I mean, that's really
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all you can do is focus on the ones that
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you can help. And you know, and and unfortunately you
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wish you could help them all and help the world,
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but it's just that's not reality. So right, you just
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do what you can and help them ones you can.
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So but again, that's.
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Exactly how he started, was like I'm gonna save every
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dog in the world, you know. When he's younger, he
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believes that, and I wanted him to believe that. But
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obviously over time reality is different. You don't necessarily get
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to save every dog, you know, So he's had to
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learn a lot.
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He's had to learn a.
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Lot of things, right exactly. So what was your very
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first rescue transport, like, I mean, was it organized chaos
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or did it go surprisingly smoothly for you guys? I mean,
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what was it like doing that first one.
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It were really smooth, but I when I tell people
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how it went, the method.
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Of transportation is kind of mind blowing.
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So our first transport was from Texas to Washington State
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in December. I believe it was like December sixth or
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something up two thousand sixteen. And it was crazy because
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it was a legal, licensed transporter. So in theory everything
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you know, it was legitimate or whatever. I didn't cut
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any corners in that regard. But it was a horse
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trailer that wasn't fully enclosed. So mind you, this is
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December and there is air still from the outside able
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to get in. All the dogs were safe, they made it,
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everybody was healthy.
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But that is not the way.
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We transport ten years later, like we do not. We
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have a very different setup now. But so I always
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look back and how he started. It's almost kind of embarrassing.
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But I didn't know what I didn't know, right, I
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was totally new to this, very very green to rescue.
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It was legal, But.
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As time has progressed, I have extremely high standards and
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expectations for our program.
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Right, So since we're kind of talking about transport and
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stuff like that, why don't you just kind of walk
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us through what a typical rescue transport journey actually does
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look like from start to finish for you guys.
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Now, so now we're obviously we live in Georgia, so
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we still partner with some rescues and Texas. So we
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actually have a transport on the road right now. We
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loaded dogs. We loaded dogs for this transport on Wednesday
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in Georgia.
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I believe we had twe two, three, five.
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I think we had about eight dogs without looking at.
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My roster from here.
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So how those dogs are selected are they're either fostered
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by our program and they're going to either receiving rescues
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or adopters, or we work with a couple of shelters
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in the area that send us like all their dog
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assessment videos, their bios, photos of the dogs, and we
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network those two other recipues that we work with to
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try and get them out of the shelter into their programs.
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Then we leave.
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So we leave Georgia found for Texas. It takes about
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a day and a half.
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While on board, the dogs are walked roughly every six
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to eight hours.
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It just kind of depends if there's more puppies or
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you know, adult dogs.
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for this transport, we loaded in the afternoon of Thursday
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and then we head north. We basically go northwest, or
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we go north and then through the midwest into the northeast,
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which was this run. Our typical transports are about five
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thousand miles over anywhere from five to seven days, and
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then everybody's delivered.
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And the van comes back home.
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We do that once a month now that like during
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COVID adoptions were so high, we could do that twice.
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A month, but COVID post.
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COVID rescue looks very different and sorry one second, Zion,
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please stop rescue looks very different. So we do it
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once a month financial for financial reasons, and we move
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about twenty.
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Dogs per transport.
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All of our dogs travel in rustling one piece molded
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kennels that are secured to the van are We have
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a Mercedes Sprinter van that especially outfitted for this, so
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it's double insulated, has additional like HVAC system, and then
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we have a generator to run a backup system. God
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forbid they should ever like break down or anything like that.
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So it's a pretty well oiled machine at this point.
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It's definitely a long ways from the horse trailer we
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used in twenty sixteen.
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It sure sounds like it. So you're basically bringing dogs
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from Georgia and Texas and then you're bringing home to
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shelters or rescues in like the Northwest or the northeastern
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states to get them adopted.
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In the doctors we actually have.
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We have adoptors that adopt our dogs site unseen, so
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they apply for the dogs, they go through a screening process,
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their personal references and their vets, and then if approved,
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they pay their adoption fee and the dog is kind
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of scheduled for the.
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actually even Ontario, Canada. Oh wow, we have a couple
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out of New York and then Maryland and then the
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van will head home.
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family would be. We kind of broke down the barriers
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through transport. So it's been a really that's been really
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rewarding because they've been able to be prepaired with families
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virtually anywhere.
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a large problem on its own that we really encourage
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people to just look local there.
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reasonable route, like it's still a long transport as is,
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but we're not looking to keep dogs on transport for
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two weeks or anything like that.
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Excuse me? So, how has obviously with the transporting and stuff,
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you've grown quite a bit and changed things up. How
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did the whole actual project freedom Right program grow from
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just helping the few dogs that you started out with
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into being more of a nationally recognized rescue effort.
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Excuse me, It's so funny because it all happened so
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and I think it was in two thousand and seventeen.
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I believe it was twenty seventeen. It might have actually
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been twenty sixteen. A video where Roman had actually visited
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with a dog at a humane.
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Society in Washington where we were living. Undersigne.
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Roman had visited a dog and done a video about him,
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and that video kind.
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Of took off and went viral, and then the social
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media platform the Jodo who shares a lot of feel
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good animal videos and stuff. They got in touch with
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Roman and they.
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Had a number of videos they shared or created about
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Project Frame Ride.
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And it kind of just blew up.
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In twenty eighteen, he was the ASPCA Kid of the Year.
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The beginning of twenty nineteen, he was on The Ellen Show,
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and then again in two thousand and twenty two. I
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believe maybe he was on like her final season.
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He was on again.
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He's been on Little Big Shots. He had an episode
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on Animal Planet, Dodo Heroes, and then a couple of
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years back he had a Disney Hulu series called Roman
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to the Rescue, which was like a kid friendly show
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about dog rescue and dog's going to families with kids.
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So he's been very, very blessed in.
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The support that he's had through like much larger platforms.
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Than just us.
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So I think the fact that he was four initially
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and like a kid doing this really drew in attention,
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and then a lot of our support following has kind
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of come as people watched him grow. Like I joke,
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he's got probably like one hundred thousand moms.
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He just doesn't know it.
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Yeah, Well, what do you think about all of that?
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Roman and about all of the great publicity and stuff
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that you've been able to get over the years from
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all these organizations.
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I think that stuff is just super cool.
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I feel like I am probably one of the luckiest
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kids in the world because, I mean, we really we
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don't try for any of that stuff. It just like
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kind of happens. And I really feel very lucky that
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all that happens. And I feel like that is just
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great publicity, even just for our nonprofit and.
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Just so we can kind of continue to stay relevant.
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Yep, exactly so. But it must have been really fun
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actually getting to do your own kind of series, Roman
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to the Rescue.
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That was super cool. It was a very very unique experience.
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Oh I'll bet I could just imagine doing the taping
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and stuff for those events. That'd be great.
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It was, it was cool. I was very lucky to
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get to do that.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now a lot of people get to
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say they get those kind of opportunities and and help out.
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I mean, and even with all that being said, with
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all of that going on, it gave you even more
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opportunities to help out the animals that you've been trying
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to help out. So so that's uh, you know, it's
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a win win all the way around. So how did
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your friends? How did your friends feel about you doing
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all of this kind of.
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Stuff so they actually, it's not the way a lot
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of people would think.
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A lot of people tend to think it's like, oh.
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A lot of friends think it's super cool. But I'll
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be real honest, I got some pretty harsh backlash from
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like having my own show and stuff. Oh yeah, I
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got bullied pretty hard for that.
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Oh that's just not right. What I guess maybe what
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a little jealousy or something because you got to do
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something so cool like that.
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Probably, I mean, that's the only thing I can really
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think of. There's no no reation really for right.
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Well, I'm sorry that happened to you. You know, that's
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that's such a sad thing when you're doing something you
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know that like this good you know, to help out
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you know, the animals and stuff like that that don't
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have a voice, and then because you get opportunities that
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you have to face that kind of backlash for that.
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That's just you know, maybe parents need to start teaching
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their kids a little bit better because that's crazy.
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Maybe maybe if they would be we wouldn't be in.
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That situation exactly. So again, I apologize that you had
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to deal with that, but it sounds like you. Yeah,
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you sound like a pretty strong kid. So I think
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you have been dealing with it well. So and hopefully
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it'll stop, and you know, you don't have to keep
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dealing with that kind of stuff, and maybe people will
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start to recognize some of the great stuff you're doing instead. Yeah, so,
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oh go ahead, huh.
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I said, we can hope, We hope.
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Yeah, you just never know. So in the project freedom,
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right in the organization, what role do each of you
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guys naturally play at this point in time?
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So, my mom, she pretty much handles all of the
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technical stuff. She coordinates just about everything, actually everything, not
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just about everything. She manages all our stuff, She manages
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the budget, She does all the behind the scenes work,
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she does all the heavy lifting. I get to take
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your credit.
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At least your honest, at least being honest about it.
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Mom does all the work. I'm just I'm just here.
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And my dad he is one of our drivers. We
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have two I'm sorry, hang on, say we have two drivers.
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My dad is one of them, and a family friend
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she is our other driver.
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Cool, yeah, yeah, that works out great. When you get
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to have you know, family and and you know, real
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close friends and stuff helping out, so makes it easier.
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Nice, we all kind of can we all kind of
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play our little role?
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Yep, sounds like it. So you guys got it worked
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out great, that's awesome. So have there been.
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Fine tuning over the years.
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Well, you know that's with anything though, You always have
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to kind of fine tune things until you get it
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tweaked to where it's working just right. But unfortunately, about
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the time you get it tweaked to where it's working,
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just write something bigger changes and you got to try
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to do tweaking again. So but it sounds like you
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guys have been doing a good job.
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Oh, thank you.
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Have there been moments when the two of you actually thought,
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you know, this is bigger than what we ever imagined.
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Yes, every day, every day, probably at least once a week,
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we talk about how we can't even imagine what our
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life would be like without this, just because it's been
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a part of it for so long, so long, more
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than half my life.
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Now, Yeah, yeah, exactly, you're sure right in that one.
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We're in hacker life. You think, as you as you
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grow up and get older, you're gonna keep on doing this?
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I don't know.
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It may just depend on where my life takes me.
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But I will probably always go to shelters and stop guys.
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I can with time, but obviously as they'll get older,
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life will get busier.
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Yeah, It'll just have to see where life takes me.
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Yeah. So, so what's your ambitions in life?
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Uh?
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What do you want to do when you get done
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with high school? Are you going to go to college or.
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Go into trade school? I'm really not sure yet.
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Yeah, well, you know you're still young. You got a
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few more years to figure out what you want to do. Yeah,
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just don't wait too long because me and I'm telling
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you got to be on top of stuff nowadays, especially
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with everything that's going on with AI and and all
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the involving you know, involvement of that and stuff.
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So yeah, it does stuck though.
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They make them try and figure all that stuff out
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by like seventh rade, so that can steer your entire
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high school.
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Pathway, right, yep, right now, I.
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Want a pathway to get like a whole bunch of
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these cyber industry certifications.
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Oh that's really cool. Yeah, so you'll be you'll be
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working on that stuff and the AI and the cyber
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stuff and everything like that.
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Possibly be possibly that would be so find.
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Hey, you know why not. I mean I've actually had
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some guests on here that have done things like that.
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You know, they were involved in something before and they
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were able to take their knowledge of the business that
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they had been in. One of the gentlemen I had
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on he founded it's called Dubert and they actually do
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transporting across the United States and stuff like that. They vet,
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they go in and they check out and vet all
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of the people that are transporting, any of the people
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that are like say stopover for overnight or something like
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that where the dogs might have to stay for the
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next leg of the journey. And then even the rescues
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and stuff. They check everybody out, make sure that everybody's legit,
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stuff like that. But he started that because of a
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dog that he had, but he took his business knowledge
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of designing these programs and stuff like that and he
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started Duber and he started helping animals.
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So that's pretty cool.
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Yeah, So you just never know where things might take you,
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you know, when you decide to go into those kinds
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of fields. So yeah, that would be really cool. You
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probably will be able to bring it over into your
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rescue if you want to continue doing it potentially.
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Guy's the limit with that one?
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Sure is? Sure? Is I like the way you think Roman.
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Have you guys ever had a rescue story that you've
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felt or thought was going to be almost impossible, but
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somehow I just ended up working out for you.
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That's a good question. You have to think about that
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one implausible in one regard, right, don't think we did?
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Or yeah, among those lines where you know you were
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trying to get it worked out, but maybe you know,
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you just getting somebody as an adopter, or you know,
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maybe it was just hard trying to you know, something
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along those lines, but then you just ended up, for
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whatever reason, getting it. I mean I've had, you know,
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I've had a lot of things happen as just say,
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as animal control, when I did adoptions out of the shelter.
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I mean, I'd have people, you know, that would be like, oh, yeah,
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I really want this dog, I'm going to come and
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adopt it, and then they just you know, maybe never
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show up or back out at the last minute. You know,
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those kinds of things you don't really and then you
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got to recover from that and try to get things
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worked out. And I've actually had dogs go to other
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states too, where I've had a friend of mine, actually
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a volunteer at the shelter, was going back east and
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she took a dog that my aunt adopted, and then
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someone she knew adopted back east. So you know, it's
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just different things like that because things can always go wrong.
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You just never know.
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Yeah, I can't think of any stories like that, per se.
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What I can't think we did.
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We have had a few, like revivor stories, like dogs
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we didn't think would be able to kind of come
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back to health and they have. Was a little puppy,
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her name was Tiana. She had parvo and she was
498
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.720
kept fluctuating in and out like we honestly thought we
499
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.000
would have had to say goodbye to her probably two
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00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.720
to three times at least, and she managed to pull
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00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:30.000
through and she was very very happy, very healthy when
502
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.759
she kind of fought through that, and that was that
503
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.200
was amazing because we honestly did not think she would
504
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:35.680
make it.
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00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:37.920
Well, that's good, that's a good story.
506
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.160
Pretty unique. She had a pretty unique backstory though.
507
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:48.920
She and six other puppies entered the shelter at two weeks.
508
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.640
Old without a mom.
509
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:57.880
There was a nursing mom of people at the shelter
510
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:02.799
at the time. I don't agree with is a rescue
511
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.720
pulled her puppies from her, then put the puppies with
512
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:13.759
her and had no intention of pulling mom. And I
513
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.000
don't operate that way. You take the puppies, you take
514
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:22.319
the mom. Yeah, the whole program. What you kept happening
515
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:29.720
was we pulled mom and puppies, but mom or puppies
516
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:34.519
broke with parvo two days later and we lost I
517
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.839
think we lost two of them. And Tiana was the
518
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.200
one that was like back and forth, back and forth,
519
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:45.599
back and forth. She wound up having carvo and costidiae,
520
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.680
which is making it really hard.
521
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.119
But when she bounced back, she was fantastic. And thanks to.
522
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.319
A rescue that we worked with in Idaho, they took her.
523
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.799
She had to travel later than her stibling and her mom.
524
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.200
A rescue we work with in Washington took mom and
525
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.119
the other siblings, and so that was that's like a
526
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:12.880
great story. I don't know that we've had a dog.
527
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.960
We've helped dogs, but not one that we've necessarily fostered
528
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.319
where it's been like, hey, you know, what's taking so
529
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:22.599
long for this dog to maybe get adopted and then
530
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.799
it all makes sense. We've helped other rescues who have
531
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.039
had dogs sit for a long time and then we
532
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.319
transport that dog to the adopter. But we're not necessarily
533
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.920
we haven't been lucky, lucky or unlucky enough yet.
534
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:38.240
To do that.
535
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.279
We have a dog, our longest foster right now, has
536
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:46.440
been with us since September, so she's been us with
537
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.640
us for like nine months and has had zero applications.
538
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.640
So we hope, obviously for her sake and honors and
539
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.839
everybody else, is that it will all make sense when
540
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.359
whenever her family you know, comes around, then we'll understand
541
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:06.279
why it took so long.
542
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.680
Yep, Because you know what, there's somebody, There's going to
543
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.759
be somebody out there for her. There's just a reason
544
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:13.359
why she still hasn't found them.
545
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.480
That's what we that's kind of what helps us deal
546
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.079
with ones that stay with us longer, is that it
547
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.519
will all make sense when.
548
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.599
The adoption happens.
549
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.000
It'll be like this huge light bulb moment when it's like, Okay,
550
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.599
she waited for this reason. It's hard sometimes, you know,
551
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.559
as you watch the months go past, you're like, dang,
552
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.559
especially like she's this dog.
553
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:37.440
Her name is Josie.
554
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.640
She's a fantastic dog, but she does need to be
555
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.480
an only dog.
556
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.880
Yeah, so uh that's what's making it difficult and takes longer.
557
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.480
Yeah, but like this is a dog that would drive
558
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.160
in any environment, an apartment, a house.
559
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.960
Like, she's not very demanding.
560
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.160
She's great on a lease, she's housebroken, all the other
561
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.200
boxes she checked. But she's a black thirty five Towns
562
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.519
female pig makes who needs to be by herself. No,
563
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.240
she has a lot kind of stacked against her. But
564
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.960
I think whenever the adoption happens, they'll understand, you know,
565
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.119
we'll understand why at that time.
566
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.839
Yep, because it's going to be someone that loves that
567
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.119
breed and is looking for a dog exactly like her.
568
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.839
And that's when it's gonna that's when it's gonna happen, because,
569
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.079
like you said, she's got things stacked against her. Unfortunately,
570
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.039
she's a black pity mix and uh, it has to
571
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.240
be an only dog. So unfortunately, I know, believe me,
572
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.440
I know, I'm like I told you guys, I've I've
573
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.799
had to switch dogs around in my own household because
574
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.279
they didn't get along. So, you know, unless you're dedicated
575
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.920
to doing things, you know, if something happens, you know,
576
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.680
so a lot of people aren't. And unfortunately we tried
577
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:49.599
in the beginning.
578
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.519
She was better.
579
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.839
But what we learned like her work, like if you
580
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.799
were giving her affection, she.
581
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.720
Didn't want you to give another dog affection.
582
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.559
So there have been no fights per se, but she
583
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.599
kind of we joked, she has nasty arguments, like she
584
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.599
there's a lot of teeth, a lot of yelping, a
585
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.640
lot of theatrics, no actual attacking per se. But most
586
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.319
people aren't gonna want to deal with that, right, and
587
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.440
so it's just easier to say she needs to just
588
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:20.279
be by herself.
589
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:26.079
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So yeah, it's just resource guarding people,
590
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.960
and that's yeah yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, things.
591
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.839
Are easier to control, like her food, her.
592
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.480
Bone, but those are really easy.
593
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.240
Shoot dogs that they can't sit on the couch with
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00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:37.680
at the.
595
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.559
Same time, right, right, And that's what I had that
596
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.799
one of mine was. That's what the deal was with her.
597
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.640
She resource guarded me, so she went after she didn't care,
598
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:48.319
I mean about food and stuff like that. It was
599
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.599
me she went after. If you couldn't even have another
600
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.359
dog close to me and she would go after him.
601
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.039
So yeah, yeah, so I know I know how that goes.
602
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.880
Believe me so well. I wish you guys luck with
603
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.960
her and hopefully her family comes along soon and finds
604
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:05.839
their lucky dog.
605
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.480
So yeah, that's too.
606
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.159
So Remen, I kind of heard how your mom describes
607
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.800
how this type of work has kind of been shaping
608
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.559
you as a young person. But in your words, how
609
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.440
do you kind of feel doing all this stuff is
610
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.599
kind of helping shape you as a person.
611
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.760
It's let me feel very confident with myself, like kind
612
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.800
of know what I did, like I helped save this life.
613
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.280
Other people might not view it that way. Other people
614
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.480
might think, oh what, like whatever they think. I can't
615
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.400
think of an example right now, but it lets me
616
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:48.280
be like, it lets me feel comfortable doing what is right,
617
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:52.159
like even if a lot of other people say it's
618
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.159
wrong and don't do anything, it lets.
619
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.679
Me try to do what I feel is right. It
620
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:57.159
lets me.
621
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.360
Can I make my own tast so to speak, right exactly,
622
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.920
That's that's exactly what it's doing. You're making your own path.
623
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:12.639
So that's awesome too. Well, obviously this has changed your
624
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:18.079
guys' family life as well. So, but you guys have
625
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.519
been able to adapt. It sounds like because I mean,
626
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.800
obviously dad is driving and then you're kind of you're
627
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.000
you guys are kind of handling the adoption in the
628
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.599
face of the Project Freedom Ride stuff on your end.
629
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.800
So I mean, has has doing this kind of stuff?
630
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.000
I mean, because I know with your dad being military,
631
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.559
you guys probably moved a little bit too. But has
632
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.880
doing this really changed your family life a lot?
633
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.199
Yes, Roma probably doesn't know much different since this has
634
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:51.559
been going on so long.
635
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.360
Yeah, that's true.
636
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.079
As the adult, definitely, it's definitely changed.
637
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:03.400
Like you can't just go on vacation. You can't. You
638
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:08.880
can't just be gone all day like people I don't.
639
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.800
I think people understand, like there's sacrifices when you're in
640
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.800
rescue or you know, it doesn't necessarily.
641
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.360
Have to be dogs.
642
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.440
But outside of like you know, the fact that my
643
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.320
husband Roman's dad has retired from the military now, but
644
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.800
it's essentially he is still gone one week per month,
645
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.599
so that's twelve weeks.
646
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:32.440
A year right now.
647
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.719
It used to be you know, two weeks per month,
648
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.840
so it's still very similar to military life in that
649
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.920
regards like it's still gone and there's a lot of
650
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:48.679
sacrifices I think that are made because this isn't I
651
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:50.039
guess normal, right, this.
652
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.159
Isn't the run of the mill.
653
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.239
So like Roman doesn't particularly have many friends that would
654
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.119
be comfortable like coming over to our house because of
655
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:02.320
the dogs. You've had some which are great and they
656
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.000
could care less. But it's definitely been. It changes, It
657
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.360
changes everything about your life and you just have to
658
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.760
weigh whether or not the sacrifices are worth.
659
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:19.280
It, right right, you know, And that's just it. I
660
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.599
mean it. It is quite a bit to juggle when
661
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.760
you're doing this kind of stuff and a lot of
662
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.039
people don't realize it unless they are doing something similar,
663
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:29.760
but it is. It's a lot of work. I mean,
664
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:31.840
you know, I stay in contact with you know, I
665
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.639
have a lot of rescue friends and stuff like that,
666
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:37.400
and believe me, and you know, obviously just the shelter
667
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.599
aspect on the side that I did it, and I
668
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.119
know what kind of work that was. And I was
669
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:43.800
just talking to someone the other day, I'm like, you know,
670
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:45.920
I'd go to work eight hours a day and I
671
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.679
would come home and probably work four hours after work.
672
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.800
Every day because I was one of those ones. I
673
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.599
had turned the shelter from being high killed to basically
674
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.000
well very low kill. Let's put it that way. You
675
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.119
can't really claim no kill, right, but a very low kill.
676
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.840
And I was spending several hours every day I'd be
677
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.360
photographing dogs and then putting them up on pet Finder
678
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.440
and Facebook and stuff to try to get them adopted.
679
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:12.599
So you know, yeah, I don't.
680
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.639
I think people think it's like, oh, you play with dogs,
681
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:16.880
but like there's a.
682
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:17.559
Lot of.
683
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.119
Back end work like you describe, like for us, for example,
684
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:27.639
pet Finder is a fantastic platform, but it's not the
685
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:32.960
most like user friendly, Like we have to post it
686
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.800
in every single.
687
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.440
Location that we go, oh wow, we don't get to
688
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.079
post a dog once.
689
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.400
We have to post a dog thirty times.
690
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:45.000
Wow.
691
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.480
It's a lot. And you have to keep the dog alive.
692
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.239
You know, this is the era of social media, so
693
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.079
you've got to keep that dog alive on your social media,
694
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.239
which is a at least you've got to be posting
695
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:58.360
a couple times a day.
696
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.320
You know, there's a lot that I.
697
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:08.599
Think people don't see and rescue that makes rescue work, you.
698
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.119
Know, right, that's what It makes me kind of upset
699
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.920
when you see these keyboard warriors or armchair warriors or
700
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.400
whatever you prefer to call them, that sit back and
701
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.760
want to sit there and put people down and put
702
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.000
shelter workers down and rescues down, and they get upset
703
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.199
because you know, a rescue might say no, they can't
704
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.639
take an animal because they don't understand that they're full
705
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:33.360
and that you know, it's work trying to help all
706
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:41.559
these animals, and it's so tiring. There's so many rescue
707
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.760
workers out there, and I'm sure you guys are just
708
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.280
as tired because you're doing it. There's so many of
709
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.079
you guys out there that are just tired because there's
710
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.039
so much going on that you're trying to do.
711
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.079
I agree the keyboard it's kind of funny because on
712
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:00.239
our social media, I think because it started so young
713
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.039
for roman when whenever we get those it's kind of
714
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.039
Romans one hundred thousand moms nip them in the.
715
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:08.880
Foot like I don't.
716
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.119
I usually left the.
717
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.800
Comment today because the supporters handle it for us, which
718
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:16.519
is really great.
719
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.760
But I've also operated projects Freedom.
720
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:25.840
Right, extremely transparent. I share our financials every quarter. I
721
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.320
also post I mean we are not no kill We
722
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:32.760
absolutely are not.
723
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.159
We have had to put down menial cases.
724
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.280
But a couple of years ago, we had to put
725
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.199
down a foster that had been in our home for
726
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:46.920
a year because she was constantly attacking our resident dogs
727
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:48.880
and there was no rhyme or reason.
728
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:50.239
We couldn't figure out the source.
729
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.880
It wasn't necessarily like resource guarding or anything like that.
730
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.360
And at that point, like when she would attack, we
731
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.840
could not break her off, like essentially would have to
732
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.360
like choke her out until she stopped. And so at
733
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.960
that pohen I wasn't safe, And I remember thinking, you know,
734
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.199
if I post this, I'm definitely gonna give backlash, Like
735
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.760
I was prepared for that. But it tells somebody is
736
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:18.199
willing to take the dog that you know that they're
737
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.840
wanting you to take responsibility for, like they just they
738
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.400
don't have space in my world. I guess if that
739
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.280
makes sense, Like I just can't I get assume responsibility
740
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.880
for saying if I'm uncomfortable with it, I have to
741
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.639
be very mindful of my ability. I have to be
742
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.719
very mindful of you know, our resident dogs that have
743
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.119
to be very mindful of if there's a child ever involved,
744
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.719
and I think keyboard warners like to just have this
745
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.920
tunnel vision, but they're not stepping up to do it
746
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.400
because they're just flooding social media with their feeling.
747
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:52.159
Right.
748
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.760
And honestly, I mean because I do dog training now,
749
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.320
I do dog training for regular I do base, and
750
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.199
then I also do for service and therapy dog training.
751
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.519
And I'm gonna be honest with you, you know, as a
752
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.440
as a dog trainer and working under the dog trainers
753
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.800
I've worked under, there's this, uh I'm trying to think
754
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.239
of the name. I think it's called idio syncret. It's
755
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:22.239
idios something. Anyways, it's just a behavior in the dog.
756
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.960
And when I did animal control, I used to call
757
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.400
them like jackal hide dogs because they would just attack
758
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.639
for no reason and then they'd be fine and you
759
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.079
could never figure out why. And this one family called
760
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.039
me one time to come get their dog because they
761
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.519
were like, we don't even know. We were petting her
762
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.840
and she all of a sudden jumped up and tried
763
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.159
to rip our faces off. So you know, you just
764
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:50.800
never know. And unfortunately, when it's something along those lines,
765
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:54.360
there's really nothing that can be done with those dogs.
766
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.239
There's no like behavior adjustment you can do. I mean
767
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.199
and literally because of what's effecting them. In a lot
768
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.719
of these cases, it's actually more humane to uthanize the
769
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.039
animal because of what they're actually going through in their brain.
770
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:16.559
So I'm definitely not an advocate, Like to be transparent,
771
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.880
I don't advocate for no kill because I think the
772
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:25.119
no kill movement can create your responsibility.
773
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.480
Like, oh yes, I'm not a.
774
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:28.719
Proponent for just kenneling for life.
775
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.719
I'm not a proponent for irresponsible place and if dog
776
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:36.320
is putting homes, I'm not, Like, I'm just not. And
777
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.000
it's crazy to me how many people.
778
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:41.119
Use in Asia.
779
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.679
It's the worst thing, And I'm like, it's not. It's like,
780
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.400
it is sad. Yet if you're having to euthanize just
781
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.599
to your general population because of numbers, it's horribly sad.
782
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.519
But the alternative of leaving these dogs to run a
783
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.960
love or getting hit by a car or getting dog
784
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:01.000
bite or dimpy been that is not a better opportunity
785
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.960
for them, Like that is a slow, miserable, painful death
786
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:10.000
or you know, dogs who are mentally unfound. I just
787
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.920
I just wish we could get past that and understand that, Like,
788
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.760
it's not the most inhumane thing we.
789
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.400
Can do right right, and unfortunately a lot of people
790
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.079
don't understand that. That's why I kind of wanted to
791
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.679
say that, you know, part about you, there are certain
792
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.679
things you just can't and I'm sorry. I you know,
793
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.000
for me, I love old dogs to death. I mean,
794
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.760
like I said, I just lost my girl. She was sixteen,
795
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:39.880
seventeen years old, and I'd love my old dog to death.
796
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.039
But I'm sorry when some of these people don't. I
797
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.079
don't understand shelters in this day and age, when you
798
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.480
get an old dog in that the family has brought
799
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.719
in and requested to have euthanized because maybe the family
800
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:57.480
has been noticing the downturn in the dog, maybe they've
801
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.800
been under vet's care, but that their vet, you know,
802
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:01.800
it has gotten to that point there's nothing they can
803
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.400
really do much more. Whatever the case may be. If
804
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.559
a family had to make a very difficult decision of
805
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.800
bringing their dog in to be euthanized, why are you
806
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.239
sitting there trying to talk that family out of euthanizing
807
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:13.880
that dog and telling them you're going to give it
808
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.199
back care and you're going to adopt it into another home,
809
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.639
Especially if that dog is you know, like thirteen years
810
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.440
old or fourteen years old. You know, like I said,
811
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.360
I love seniors to death too. But if this family
812
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.000
has agonized over this and then finally done this, made
813
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.960
this decision, you should respect that family. Number One, I
814
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.719
understand if it's a young dog and there's things that
815
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.440
can be done. But if this isn't a senior dog
816
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.719
that has lived its life, why are you doing this?
817
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:43.360
And now you're taking up a home where a younger
818
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:45.920
dog possibly could go and instead is now going to
819
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:46.599
be euthanized.
820
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:48.920
Right, And I.
821
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.440
Definitely think that would double edge and the rescue and
822
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.400
shelter world because I also would have like in that scenario,
823
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.920
I would have issues with the family bringing the dog
824
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.079
to a shelter to be right now, like, it's your responsibility,
825
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.199
should not be the sheltered responsibility. If it is indeed
826
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.880
what would be best for your dog, you should be
827
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.880
there with your dog through, right, And.
828
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.960
It depends on the shelter. So some shelters will allow
829
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.320
families to stay with their dog when they euthanize it.
830
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.719
At least you can at least be there through the
831
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.800
sedation shot. It depends on how they're euthanizing. If they're
832
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.360
doing it like the vet. Most shelters are actually okay
833
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.719
with the heavenues. But if you're doing it the old
834
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.440
arcaic way, which I don't know how many shelters are
835
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.159
still doing it that way with the heart sticking one.
836
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.480
But you don't want a.
837
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.519
Shelter in Georgia that's receiving a lot of heat because
838
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:44.000
still do that and it's not supposed to be happening.
839
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.760
Yeah, So it just depends some of the some of
840
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.320
the shelters out here. I don't know if any of
841
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.159
the shelters out here are still doing it. I'm assuming
842
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.440
they are, but that's what I mean. So, I mean,
843
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.480
it's just the service that some of the shelters offers
844
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.679
because some people can't afford to literally go pay yeah dollars,
845
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:01.000
you know.
846
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.000
If the family can be with the dog.
847
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:06.440
But I think I do struggle.
848
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.119
If you cared for this dog for thirteen years, you
849
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:10.360
need to be that the end.
850
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.199
Yeah, I am, you know, I've been there with mine
851
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.199
even if but I can kind of understand why some
852
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:18.599
may not allow that family. You know, like I said,
853
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.679
they do allow them to stay there through the sedation
854
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.800
when they're actually going into that sleep before the last shot.
855
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.000
But you know a lot of them actually have since
856
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.199
they have been doing it differently. I think a lot
857
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.599
of the shelters are starting to allow the families to
858
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.199
stay there, you know, if they wish to. What gets
859
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:37.880
me is the family that just wants to come in
860
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:39.719
and drop their dog off and doesn't care. They're not
861
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.480
even going to stay to do any of it. You know,
862
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.639
they're just gonna go, right. But those ones bother me.
863
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.719
But yeah, and then sometimes I hate to say this,
864
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.920
but sometimes people are so attached to the anal they
865
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:58.159
wait way longer than they should. And this dog misery.
866
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.840
That, like any of our personal dog or dogs and rest,
867
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.280
my goal is always to let them go with dignity,
868
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:07.440
like I'm not it's not about me at that point.
869
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.599
It's like if I'm holding on because it's what I want,
870
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.760
like and your suffering that just doesn't seem fair.
871
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.719
So all of our.
872
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.039
Dogs that it comes time for them to pass, like
873
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.679
we don't let it get so bad that you know,
874
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.000
it's this like crazy urgent decision. We try to, you know,
875
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.400
once we see them start to go and we know
876
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.880
that you know, the end is ineffortable we don't wait
877
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:33.559
until the very last minute.
878
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.559
Right right. And that was you know, when my girl
879
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.840
I just had to use the nice on Monday, she
880
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.119
you know, like I said, sixteen seventeen and the vet
881
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.480
and I and I kind of thought when I because
882
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.119
she couldn't get up and down off the couch by
883
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.400
herself anymore because of her arthritis, so I eould help
884
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.760
her up and down. So anyway, when I got her down,
885
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.960
I kind of noticed that she was listening to the
886
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.360
right and wasn't really putting any where. She couldn't hold
887
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.960
anything up on the right side. And I was kind
888
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.880
of thinking at that point stroke. And then when I
889
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.559
got her into the vet a couple hours you know later,
890
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.599
to have her looked at, that's kind of what the
891
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.360
vet thought too. So at that point it's like, well,
892
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.079
you know, what do I do? Do I try to
893
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.119
wait to see if she gets better? Do I? You know,
894
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.000
I hope she doesn't have a stroke the next time
895
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.639
I'm not home, or even worse, maybe hard something that's
896
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.079
going to put her in a bunch of pain when
897
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.480
I'm going to be gone at work for hours. So
898
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.000
you know, it's that thing, you know, what quality of
899
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.000
life you know does she actually have. So you know,
900
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.000
you got to make those choices sometimes. Unfortunately, I know
901
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.760
you guys just had to do that too with one
902
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:38.320
of your foster's, but you know, you got to really
903
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.599
think about them and their quality of life, no matter
904
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.760
how hard it is on you. So so Roman, you've actually,
905
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.639
you've actually Roman inspired a whole lot of young people.
906
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:54.280
What do you say to the kids who may want to,
907
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.760
you know, try to help animals but aren't really sure
908
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:57.440
where to start.
909
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.039
Just go to your local shelter, see if there's any
910
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:07.400
dogs you can visit, See if there's any old toys
911
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.320
you can donate to the shelter, and maybe if you
912
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.159
can't really adopt it but you still want to help,
913
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.360
but a shelter or a local rescue or something, maybe
914
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:18.280
see if you can foster a dog.
915
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:20.360
Exactly.
916
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:22.440
So let's just always go.
917
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.800
Just try see what you can do if you want
918
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.239
to help, just kind of test the.
919
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:28.960
Waters a little bit.
920
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.440
Obviously it doesn't have to be like what we do.
921
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.559
But there's always other things you can do.
922
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:39.039
Now, right, there's a lot of different things that kids
923
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.159
could do. I mean, they could hold different little events
924
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:44.400
or something at school, you know, ask the school, do
925
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.679
you like, say a bakesale or anything, a car wash
926
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.039
or anything to help their local shelter and raise some
927
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.559
money or their local rescues. So there's a lot of
928
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.360
stuff that kids could do if they put their minds
929
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:54.639
to it.
930
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:56.519
Absolutely.
931
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.960
Like my fourth birthday, I asked for instead of presents,
932
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.719
I asked for donations for the local shelter in Texas.
933
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.559
Yep, yep. We've had a few kids do that here
934
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.920
in Arizona for some of the shelters too, so and
935
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.679
then they actually they started reading programs out here, so
936
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.840
now kids are going into the shelters and sitting down
937
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:16.960
and reading to the dogs.
938
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:18.800
That's awesome.
939
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.119
Yeah, there was something like that at the Humane Society
940
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:24.760
we would go to in Washington.
941
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.840
Yeah. Yeah, it's been catching up. There's been quite a
942
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.960
few out here that have started doing that. So that's
943
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.559
pretty cool it is. So, did you guys ever have
944
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.039
a rescue dog that became part of your own family?
945
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.079
Oh? My goodness, about four times over.
946
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:48.639
Kind of like me, huh, probably seven dogs.
947
00:51:49.960 --> 00:52:05.760
To for five yeah bye yeahsion, yeah, six six.
948
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:06.360
My bad sick.
949
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.719
So you guys have kept six of them over the years.
950
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.599
We have, we have, but A lot of them are
951
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:18.320
very old dogs now right. One of them is fifteen,
952
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.039
two of them, or one of them is fourteen, one
953
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.079
of them is thirteen. One of them we have no
954
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:28.800
idea how old he is, but he's pretty old. Yeah,
955
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.639
between two thousand and three thousand years.
956
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:33.639
Wow.
957
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.480
Yeah, they're getting up there. But I'm sure you guys
958
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.039
are taking really good care of them.
959
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:41.960
Are we are?
960
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:44.400
We say, as they get older, they don't show their age,
961
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:45.679
They just get weirder.
962
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:50.199
Yeah, that's true. And I think they train us to
963
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.440
do things for them. I'm telling you of my old girl.
964
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.599
She had me trained. If she wounded up on the couch,
965
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.719
she would literally just come over to the couch and
966
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.239
look at the couch and then look at me like
967
00:52:58.239 --> 00:52:59.800
you're gonna help me up here anytime soon.
968
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.679
So absolutely absolutely, they get you worked around their fingers
969
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:05.320
so quick.
970
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.039
Oh yeah, yep. Oh it's treat time. Oh that's right.
971
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.599
I better get up now and go get you your
972
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.079
treat before you start having a fit.
973
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.760
Last night, we have this little foster dog right now.
974
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:19.880
It lives me. I can't remember what kind of dog
975
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:25.480
she is. She's pretty, she's like seven. I think my
976
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.599
mom absolutely adores her.
977
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:33.920
She absolutely adores my mom and she has.
978
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.559
My mom wrapped around her little finger.
979
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.159
Anytime my mom her, she just looks at my mom
980
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:38.880
a little bit.
981
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.440
My mom would just walk over and pick her up.
982
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:42.679
It is super sweet.
983
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.480
Yeah, sometimes they can be like that. They just love
984
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.079
you and you can't help but love them back.
985
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:52.559
Mm hmm.
986
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.320
So what goals do you guys have for Project Freedom
987
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.960
right over the next few years to come? Are you
988
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.719
guys going to try to expand it all or partner
989
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:05.599
up with anybody else?
990
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.559
Spand right now we just have to kind of just
991
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:14.679
take on what we can and just really all our
992
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.679
goal is ever is just to give whatever dogs we
993
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:21.119
pull in the best chance we can. Obviously we've come
994
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.840
to learn over the last several years we can't save.
995
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:24.920
Them all, right, but.
996
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.440
We can get the ones we do save their best chance.
997
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.960
And that's all all we can ever do. Ye, hang
998
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.280
up just one second, Ye I'll be right back.
999
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:44.000
All right, No problem.
1000
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:49.239
So okay, So how can the people out there listening
1001
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.719
today support your mission? Even if they can't adopt or
1002
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:56.400
foster right now? What can they do to help you
1003
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:56.800
guys out?
1004
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:03.320
They can donate if they live in our local area.
1005
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:10.599
They could possibly volunteer. In truth, the biggest help to
1006
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.639
us would be if they faded new to their dogs.
1007
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.039
If they already had dogs, stay and new to them.
1008
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:23.840
That helps us. So then down the road we won't
1009
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:30.159
have a big popular overpopulation probably dogs. Or if you
1010
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.119
want to help us directly now, donating is a really
1011
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.840
good option. We offer a free spay neuter program to
1012
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.239
help kind of dogs in our own area.
1013
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.960
Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, So if people want, they
1014
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.079
can go to say, your website or whatever or Facebook
1015
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.119
page and then they can donate page.
1016
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.760
Yeah, I think our I think there's way you can
1017
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:59.840
donate our Facebook page. I know there's I think our PayPal,
1018
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.360
our cash out maybe is on there.
1019
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:04.360
I don't know if we have cash out actually.
1020
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:08.440
Scratch that, but there are ways to donate on our
1021
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:09.199
Facebook page.
1022
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.639
I do know that my mom is normally who handles that.
1023
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.320
Yeah, so do you guys only have a Facebook page
1024
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.159
or do you actually have a website and stuff too.
1025
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.159
We do have a website. I think mostly everything that
1026
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:23.519
is on our Facebook page.
1027
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:26.199
I don't think we really use our website as much. Okay,
1028
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.119
it's just easier to kind of get people.
1029
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.000
Get people's attention through social media. Okay, So all the
1030
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.920
information people would need is on our Facebook page as well.
1031
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.480
Okay, so they can just go to your Facebook page
1032
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.599
and then they can learn more about Project Freedom Right
1033
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.079
and then what you guys are doing and they can
1034
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.159
donate to you off of there. Awesome.
1035
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.639
Yeah, everything they would need is should be on there.
1036
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.440
Like you could go look at the dogs that we
1037
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.880
have on there as well. You gets all oar to
1038
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.880
have pin your links there. Don't have a one stop shop.
1039
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.920
Cool. So do you guys have any upcoming projects, partnerships
1040
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.000
or rescues or initiatives or anything like that that you
1041
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.480
uh are excited about having happened?
1042
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:11.119
We are.
1043
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.760
We are going to the Augusta Pride Festival here. We'll
1044
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.360
be doing a rap will giveaway for a bench like
1045
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:24.079
a custom or a custom page to chair. I think
1046
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:25.639
that's the only one I can think of in the
1047
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:27.280
near future. Cool.
1048
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.519
Do you guys puss that out on your Facebook page too,
1049
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.079
that you guys are gonna be there? Awesome?
1050
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.719
That isn't event we look forward to.
1051
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.960
We went to that for the first time last year
1052
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:39.760
and it was a great event.
1053
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.239
We got a ton of.
1054
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:46.480
Donations and everybody there was super nice.
1055
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.719
So, if anybody, say in your area, would like to
1056
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.280
help you guys out, say with the dogs, is there
1057
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.840
any way they can do that? Do you guys have
1058
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.039
any volunteers that help you guys out at all?
1059
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.159
We do, We actually have super volunte there's the kind
1060
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.920
of work with us. Some of them foster as well.
1061
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.079
They would all they have to do is just reach out.
1062
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.920
I'm pretty sure there's a contract. They would have to
1063
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:17.039
sign an application process for that, right or obviously they
1064
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.559
could donate Spain new to their own dogs, say, things
1065
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.280
would still apply. Their dogs would have to be Spain
1066
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.639
and if they wanted to foster or something.
1067
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:29.800
Right, right, But that's great that you guys are taking
1068
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.960
volunteers and stuff. So yeah, So if you guys are
1069
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.719
in the Georgia area there where Roman and Gen and
1070
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.519
them are at Project Freedom Ride, go to their Facebook page,
1071
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.559
check it out and contact them if you're interested in
1072
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:47.280
helping them out. I'm sure they'd appreciate it. So yeah. So, last,
1073
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:52.519
but not least, can you think of a rewarding moment
1074
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.239
that you've kind of had doing this? I mean, would
1075
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.400
something that really stands out for you?
1076
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.239
Let me think of a good one. You've had several
1077
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:16.119
over the years. Oh, let me think there's a lot
1078
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:21.559
to pick from. But we had one dog. This was
1079
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:23.679
quite a few quite a few years ago.
1080
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:29.679
It was on actually the Animal Planet Dodo Heroes episode.
1081
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.039
His name was the dog's name was Noah.
1082
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.480
It took him quite a while to find like a
1083
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.199
potential family, and he could not have gone to.
1084
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:41.039
A better family.
1085
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.880
He is going hiking all the time. He had to
1086
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.639
see videos man like playing in the snow and stuff.
1087
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.679
He is he has spoiled rock to say the least.
1088
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.239
You know, those are the most ret rewarding moments that
1089
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.079
you can have when you do this kind of work,
1090
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:59.079
When you know that it is Yeah, when you know
1091
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:00.960
you've got a dog, I can do a good home.
1092
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.239
Yeah, that's what makes it feel like you've you've done
1093
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.840
something good. It's it's what plays the cycle.
1094
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.280
Yep, it it really does. It's a it's a very
1095
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.519
rewarding time when you know you've done something good for
1096
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.440
that animal and you've placed them and they've got a
1097
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.559
good home and and they're going to be loved and
1098
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.239
they're going to love the people they're with. So I
1099
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:28.280
ain't I've been there and done that, So well, yeah,
1100
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.440
just a little bit. I mean, after all the years
1101
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.159
that I did the shelter work and stuff, it's you
1102
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.679
get to learn a whole lot of stuff. Sometimes it's
1103
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:38.960
not good, but you learn. But yeah, but you do
1104
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.960
have I mean good it makes sometimes, you know, like
1105
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.880
you said, there with that dog there and finding a
1106
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.000
good home, those are the times that make it worth
1107
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:48.440
it for all the other times that aren't quite as good.
1108
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.400
So yeah, so it works out.
1109
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.960
What lets you know you did right?
1110
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.760
Exactly exactly? Roman, Well, hey, you know, we're kind of
1111
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.800
at the end of the podcast, and I am so
1112
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:02.960
happy that I got to have you and your mom
1113
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.440
come on and talk with me today and talk about
1114
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.159
Project Freedom right and learn more about you and your
1115
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:11.880
project there. I think you guys are doing an awesome job,
1116
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.159
and I hope you get to continue doing it for
1117
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:19.400
the years to come. And again, don't let those bullies
1118
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.800
bother you, because you've got a lot going for you.
1119
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:28.039
And you know, jealousy is horrible when people have it,
1120
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.599
and it makes them be stupid and things like that.
1121
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.639
So I think you're a great kid, and I think
1122
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.119
you are making a difference in it. Maybe maybe not
1123
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.599
the entire world, but at least your little corner of it.
1124
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.000
You are making a huge difference, especially for a lot
1125
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:45.000
of animals that don't have any voice. So kudos to
1126
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.119
you and everything you and your family are doing.
1127
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:48.719
Thank you.
1128
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.119
And with that being said, again, I appreciate you guys
1129
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.719
being on the podcast tonight. I'm just gonna announce my
1130
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.960
next couple podcasts coming up. You guys are welcome to
1131
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:00.119
stand if you'd like until the end, but you are
1132
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.239
more than welcome to jump off at this point because
1133
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:03.840
I know you guys probably have things you need to
1134
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.079
go take care of since you're busy with your rescue
1135
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.440
all the time. So again, no, thank you so much.
1136
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.440
I appreciate it. And Roman, I really love talking with
1137
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:13.519
you tonight. You're a good kid.
1138
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.079
That was great talking to you too. Thank you for
1139
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:16.599
having us.
1140
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.000
Yep, all right, you guys have a good night.
1141
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:21.159
Good thank you.
1142
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:29.719
Yeah bye, all right, everybody. So, uh what a great kid.
1143
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.800
Oh my gosh. I just enjoyed really doing this podcast
1144
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.320
with these guys. Him and Roman and his mom are
1145
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:39.400
just some really excellent people that are doing some excellent
1146
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.039
work out there. So if you guys can help them
1147
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.400
out donating to them or whatever you know, off of
1148
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.559
their Facebook page or uh, you know, or if you're
1149
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.559
in the area, if you can help them out with things,
1150
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.599
you know, donations or maybe helping them take care of
1151
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.920
the dogs, things along those lines, arranging transports, you know whatever,
1152
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:02.280
foster or fostering. They I'm sure need fosters, So get
1153
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.119
a hold of them and help them out, because Project
1154
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:10.039
Freedom Right is well worth the effort. So with that
1155
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.280
being said, the next couple of podcasts that I'm going
1156
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.320
to have coming up, if you guys are interested, which
1157
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.360
I hope you are, is going to be June twenty fifth.
1158
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:20.880
I'm going to be talking with Monica Wheeland Shields and
1159
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.679
we're going to be talking about Orcus and the podcast
1160
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.280
is the orc of Behavior Files because I don't know
1161
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:28.920
if you guys have been following the news, but these
1162
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.400
orcas have been acting crazy out there, I guess lately,
1163
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.440
well something setting them off. I al wouldn't say they're crazy,
1164
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:36.880
but something seems to be setting them off. And they've
1165
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.280
been attacking ships and stuff like that now and then,
1166
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:42.400
and a lot more than they ever have and in
1167
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:47.000
different places than they have. So hopefully maybe Monica can
1168
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.199
shed a little light on that and as well as
1169
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.400
give us more information about orcus. I think it's going
1170
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.320
to be great to talk with her and learn more
1171
01:03:54.360 --> 01:04:01.039
about those whales. There're some really cool whales, and I'm
1172
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.039
going to be glad to hear more about how they
1173
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:10.639
live and their diet and what their research and stuff
1174
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:14.000
has come up with about the orchest because she's been
1175
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.960
researching them now for quite a long time, so we're
1176
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.199
going to get quite a bit of insight into them
1177
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.639
with Monica. Wait, I can't wait for that one. And
1178
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.280
then the one after that is going to be July ninth,
1179
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.920
and I am going to have Rebecca Manelga on with
1180
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.400
me and we are going to talk about guide dog
1181
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:36.559
puppies because you see, Rebecca is a foster home for
1182
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:40.599
puppies that grow up to become guide dogs for the blind.
1183
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.400
So she is going to be on the podcast on
1184
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:48.519
July ninth to give me more information on what it's
1185
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.880
like to be a guide dog puppy foster and what
1186
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.960
she does in helping to raise these puppies that then
1187
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.559
go on to be guide dogs for people that are
1188
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.320
blind and need them. I'm looking forward to talking to
1189
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:03.320
Rebecca about that. I think it's going to be a
1190
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.960
great podcast learning more about all of that and what
1191
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:09.119
she does. So don't forget to come on back Dune
1192
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.320
twenty fifth to hear more about Orchis from Monica, and
1193
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.000
then on July ninth to hear more about the guide
1194
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.800
Dog puck Bees from Rebecca. And I'm looking forward to
1195
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:21.400
talking with both of those ladies. So and I do
1196
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:23.559
hope you guys enjoyed the podcast tonight. I hope you
1197
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:25.639
learned a lot more about Project Freedom Right, and I
1198
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.079
hope that some of you guys are going to go
1199
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.360
out there and help those guys out and support their
1200
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:34.039
mission and give Roman some kudos for doing all the
1201
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:37.079
great work that he's doing. So and with that being said,
1202
01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:39.960
I hope you guys all enjoy a good rest of
1203
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.320
your weekend and don't get into any trouble out there,
1204
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.159
and come on back in a couple of weeks, all right,
1205
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:46.840
By No