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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 3: And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Around the ground zone towards the middle. Terrain cuts it off.
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Speaker 1: And the Milwaukee Bulls with one of the all-time World Series beatdowns. 10-1. They out-hit Tampa Bay 16-3.
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Speaker 3: The roar of the crowd. And they're one point away from the first World Series title in franchise history. You got to love a home game. Except it wasn't. They were at Tampa Bay, and it was striking watching the game, how numerous and loud the Brewers fans were. They took over the damn stadium.
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Speaker 2: I wish they were playing.
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Speaker 4: The Yankees or somebody that got more attention or whatever, because the Brewers are an unbelievable baseball team.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: And it's going to be kind of lost to history unless you're a big baseball fan, because it's not... you know, against a premier team are getting a lot of attention. They are really, really good. I was just reading the thing about how they play baseball, you know, the way.
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Speaker 2: People enjoy it. Lots of hits. Try to make contact. Get on base.
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Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 4: You know, all the stuff that's exciting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because the world somehow got convinced that strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, home run. Strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, home run was what people wanted. Not constant action on the bases and bases being stolen and guys trying to advance and all. Anyway, it's super fun to watch. But I thought this was interesting. Tampa Bay, which scrapes the bottom in attendance every year. I mean, it's like perennial bottom five for some reason. They're building a new stadium. Maybe that'll help because it's a beautiful place, St. Pete, to go see a baseball game. But the least expensive ticket. Like a standing room only on the secondary market for the first two games in Milwaukee was about $ 2, 500 just to get in the stadium. The least expensive ticket at the trop, as they say, $ 500. One-fifth of that. So Milwaukee fans are like, hell yes, I'm going to fly down. I'm going to stay a couple of nights in a hotel. I'm going to buy tickets, and it's going to cost me less than the damn home games. So they flooded down there. That's a road game.
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Speaker 4: Well, when you've been a long-suffering sports fan in any town and your team finally catches fire and gets their day, it's very exciting.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I knew there was one more thing I wanted to say. The stadium where Milwaukee plays at home sold out for people to watch the game on a screen. Wow. Oh, now that's an enthusiastic fan base. You gotta love that.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what I'll do when I'm old. Retired.
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Speaker 4: When teams catch fire, I will just go be a fan there for a while.
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Speaker 3: I'll buy the gear, man. I'll spend the money.
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Speaker 4: Because the enthusiasm in a town, especially if you haven't won in a long time, it's so fun.
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Speaker 2: It's so fun. Everybody's friendly. Everybody's wearing the gear. It's just fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the positive feelings are good. It reminds me of what it's like to be a human being again, where people would gather and be together and be part of a community, whatever community, even if it's a somewhat artificial one rooting for a bunch of Venezuelans to play baseball. But anyway, that was great. So speaking of popular culture, I also I fulfilled my vow and went to see the hit documentary. You can see everything yesterday. The Elizabeth Holmes thing.
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Speaker 4: So we've got to slow down right here because I don't know how many texts we got the other day when I was raving about this movie because I saw it Saturday night. People say you never mentioned the name of the movie, but you keep talking. The name of the movie is you can see everything. That's not just a phrase we're throwing into the review.
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Speaker 3: Yes. It's not just a comment about the bloke in the shower. It's not.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's the name of the movie. So that's the movie. You can see everything. And no spoilers, by the way. Absolutely no spoilers here. I've thought this through. Which I find it tough to do because practically everything was a spoiler to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to drive by, give you the drive-by assessment. It is a fascinating bit of filmmaking. Riveting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for its length.
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Speaker 3: Man, it's speaking of that. Go ahead. Sorry.
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Speaker 2: I was about to say, maybe.
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Speaker 4: You're going to contradict that and not agree. I was going to say, for a movie that long, I was surprised that it kept my attention the whole time.
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Speaker 3: Manage your bladder folks. That was going to be like having a window seat on a long flight.
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Speaker 2: That was my situation.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to go get popcorn and I thought, you know, I'll pick a point where I thought, and I thought, God, there's no moment I want to miss here because there's too much information coming out.
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Speaker 3: God knows what's going to pop up in the next 60 seconds. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to miss this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway. So I thought it was, it was fascinating. It is long. Uh, so again, manage your bladder, uh, appropriately. Um, Super interesting. And after it's been out for a while, maybe we'll have a discussion about it and take some emails and stuff. But I wouldn't want to ruin it for people.
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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't either, because a lot of the enjoyment is just it's not at all what I was expecting anyway.
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Speaker 3: Humans, man. What are you going to do?
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Speaker 4: But as I tweeted out the other day, it's so many different topics because when I explain it to some people who are not into it, it's like. corporate fraud's not my genre for movies to go to. No, it's every bit. It's, it's Shakespearean. That's why I said it's Shakespearean. It's like, it's all of human, of human life, relationships, honesty, greed, sex, everything that exists in human life is in that, in that show.
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Speaker 3: What was that award winning documentary that came out, um, oh gosh, it was probably 15, 20 years ago now, but it was something, something crazy, extra fast or what was the title? It was four different documentaries about four different people who have different passions. And that it finally dawned on me because I'm a bit slow witted after watching that, that every documentary is about humans and, and, and, exploring their fascination through their eyes, you don't need to be a clock repair enthusiast.
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Speaker 2: It's not about clock repair.
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Speaker 3: It's about passion. And it finally dawned on me, and so I've become a much bigger fan of documentaries now because I used to, like a half-wit, think, well, I have no interest in banana gathering.
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Speaker 4: Is that what it's about? Him and his wife and his kids and his aspirations and blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a confused look on your face? Oh, no, not a confused look. Are you talking bigger, stronger, faster?
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Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, I really enjoy that. It's been ages since I had to watch it again. Oh, that's right. The blind moles. I'd forgotten about that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. My brother's going today. I've tried.
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Speaker 4: I've convinced so many people to go before the spoilers hit them. And I was getting texts from numerous people yesterday. I went to the movie is like, oh, my God, I can't believe that. responses to various parts of the movie.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There were more laughs than I expected.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 3: It's a comedy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In a way. So speaking of popular culture, as we bop from topic to topic, this is so interesting. I'm reading Peter Boghossian's screed of late. You've probably seen this French woman on social media, blonde hair gal, um kind of a pointy nose i don't know she's standing in front of an orange road sign a couple other signs um and she is begging rioters um i'll say in england in english why are you doing this what's the point of doing this this is not the cause that's not what this is about and then referring to a lone employee inside a shop that they're attempting to break into and loot um he's all alone. Stop. Stop doing that. And then the looters respond, it's snack time, which refers to the traditional French after-school snack. Take the wine, all of it. I've got my groceries. There's shampoo. Do you want some ice cream? And someone pulls her back, an off-camera voice yells, you're going to get hurt, telling her to stop, just get out of their way. Well, you know, that's an interesting exchange and powerful exchange. And the shop owner told the Daily Mail, I don't know her name. She just comes here now and then. And that's all we know. But in the way social media does, and this happens to be on the right, multiple narratives and versions of this have cropped up with Photoshopping or AI touch-ups or whatever. Visigrad 24, which I follow on Twitter, called her a left wing protester in the looters. Second and third generation migrants also said they told her to shut up because they had urgent shopping. Neither exchange is in the clip and other claims are unverified. Clay Travis said it's her store and that France has a left wing government. Both are false. They do have a left wing government, though, compared to so Bogosian for France. It's not a left wing government. I think for the rest of the world, it's left-wing government. But let's not get hung up. This other Twitter identity, I guess, said she voted to let them in. Nothing really supports this. Although she hints at it with her, this is not the cause. But she voted what? She voted to let them in, another says. This other account called her an activist and boutique owner. who is spat on and trampled. Nothing supports any of that. And it goes on. I've got a list 15 deep.
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Speaker 4: Everybody should be forced to learn about the French Revolution, which is like most revolutions, like almost all of the Arab Spring, for instance.
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Speaker 1: But.
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Speaker 2: More people need to learn about revolutions.
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Speaker 4: Maybe the problem we have in the United States is we have the almost only example of a revolution ending up the way it ended up without lots and lots of good people being killed in the street by crazy people. We're like the only example. So in our heads, I think, and for a lot of the world who hears about the American Revolution, that's what you think revolutions are.
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Speaker 2: That ain't the way it usually works.
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Speaker 1: Right, right.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 4: Or one faction decides, here's our chance. Like one of the most powerful states would have decided, here we go. And, you know, F your constitutional Congress. Now it's the Virginia is the name of the whole thing. And we've got an army in the street making sure you do things the way we want to do it.
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Speaker 3: Because whoever is the most vicious wins and the best armed wins. That's 98% of revolution.
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Speaker 4: How do the people in the streets in France not know about the French Revolution and how you always end up turning on each other? You might have the most idealistic causes that everyone would agree with in the beginning, but the bad guys don't necessarily agree with you.
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Speaker 3: Because their schools stink like blue cheese. That's what these protests started about.
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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Speaker 6: One of the things that Gadiaz and Gadiaz said is within 18 months of him taking office, Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Will no longer exist. To the applause of the crowd here.
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Speaker 4: Over the past few days, tens of thousands of Israelis have flown in from overseas, many to vote against Netanyahu. That's an interesting thing because I got a lot of Israelis don't live in the country. And so tens of thousands flying back to Israel just so they can vote. I was just looking up at the TV. Voting is going on right now. It's their first national election since October 7th, 2023. Highest turnout in 50 years. That they got going on right now. And this guy that is leading in the polls, though, nobody has a big enough lead that they're going to be able to form a government easily because they get the whole parliamentary system that I barely understand. But they say it's going to take weeks or months to figure out how this has all come together. But this Gaddy Eskin, Eisencott. As you just heard there, he vowed Hamas won't exist at all within 18 months of me taking over. So I feel like the crowd that is anti-Bibi, who thinks that the, using my finger quotes, genocide in Gaza is going to, you know, will be over. Thank God if you booed out Netanyahu. No, this guy is hardcore. We're cleaning out Gaza. Hamas is over.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We'll see how that turns out.
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Speaker 3: You wanted a two-state solution?
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Speaker 2: Oh, he's anti-two-state solution.
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Speaker 3: It went away on October 3rd, 23, for good.
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Speaker 2: This guy's completely against that idea.
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Speaker 3: So is Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.
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Speaker 3: So is Hezbollah. So is the PLO. So is the PLA.
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Speaker 2: You know who doesn't want a two-state solution?
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Speaker 4: Freaking Hamas. That should be mentioned every time the conversation comes up. The official government, or at least until, you know, October 7th, of Gaza, Hamas, doesn't believe in a two-state solution. In fact, they don't believe a Jew should be alive.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: That is something.
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Speaker 4: Highs turned out in 50 years, so you'd have to go back to 76? That's like, you know, they're still fighting wars against the surrounding countries back then, so.
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Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of foreign elections, were you going to dive into anything? The big Brazil election is getting a lot of attention, too. Brazil's a gigantic country, an important one in our hemisphere. But so the socialist, what do they call him? What's his nickname? Lola? She was a showgirl, whatever. Lula. He won, surprising a lot of folks, over a much more conservative candidate. But one thing that annoys the crap out of me about the coverage of this, I think I've heard it 27 times in the lame stream media is that the conservative candidate Bolsonaro was suing because of a last second judicial order to extend the voting period. But every American news network says they're suing over the extension to the voting period that both candidates had asked for. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is such willful, biased reporting that The conservative guy said, hey, this region has been devastated by flooding. People are having trouble getting to the polls. We need to extend it in this region. Well, the judge said, yeah, yeah, not only that, but let's send more buses into the super poor quadrants of the urban places because the government buses poor people to the polls to vote. So let's extend that, too. And Bolsonaro saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, that came out of nowhere. There was no reason for that. That was just an effort to beef up the Lula vote. So, if you have a lead, sit on the ballot box.
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Speaker 4: Well, the coverage of elections in Mississippi is bad if you don't live there. So I don't expect it to be good in other countries.
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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Speaker 4: We have an exciting update and a big story we loved back in the day.
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Speaker 2: Remember this?
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Speaker 7: We just wrapped up a one-on-one interview with Stephen Klubeck. At one point, he was running for governor of California, but he dropped out to endorse Eric Swalwell, a decision he clearly regrets.
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Speaker 2: Did you suspect this at all?
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 3: I was blown away.
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Speaker 7: A political explosion.
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Speaker 3: Like, blown away.
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Speaker 7: Billionaire Stephen Klubeck, once a major donor and supporter of Eric Swalwell, now publicly turning on him with rage.
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Speaker 3: Bad.
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Speaker 7: Amid sexual assault allegations.
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Speaker 3: I am no longer a Democrat. I'm now a libertarian Republican. Because that's what a blue dog Democrat used to be.
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Speaker 4: So it seems that this morning the FBI raided that dude's mansion? Looking for more information on Eric Swalwell, former congressman and wannabe president, who did something he shouldn't do. It was illegal with sex workers, apparently.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah. One former staffer, a handful of staffers have accused him of sexual impropriety, including rape when she was too intoxicated to consent. Another woman has accused him of drugging and sexually assaulting her in 2018. Others have alleged he sent them unsolicited Richard pics.
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Speaker 2: Want to see my genitalia?
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Speaker 3: Here it is.
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Speaker 4: One of the women accused him of something. Is that one of the ones that he's on the bed with from that video that we watched a million times?
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Speaker 3: I don't recall.
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Speaker 2: Or rolling around in the bed?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Could be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Wow, so Stephen Klubeck, the great, not gay, he's straight. Because, you know, the other aspect of his act that I think is just amazing. is he's come out and said, you know, he can't back Swalwell, he supports women's rights, blah, blah, blah. Get the f * * * out of here. That's right. He about fell for, in fact, he did fall for, the cops saved him from it, this porn star girl who convinced this fat old billionaire that she was hot for him and was going to marry him and make all of his wildest dreams come true, even though she's a serial guy bilker. Oh, what a fool. My Lord. You don't bust the trust.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's what happened. Swalwell busted the trust. So he's living with the gazillionaire. He's living at the gazillionaire's house. And this guy apparently thought Swalwell might be president someday. And I'm going to be, you know, in like Flynn. I'm going to be tied to this dude and all kinds of cool things will come my way. Well, that didn't work out because Swalwell busted the trust. And you don't do that. It's my understanding.
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Speaker 3: You don't exist in my life.
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Speaker 4: And so the FBI raids the Beverly Hills mansion today. MSN reporting the raid is linked to a sex worker. A senior law enforcement official told the Post. But there's a number of other charges, as Joe mentioned.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: How did this guy make his money, Stephen Klubeck? How did he become rich? Because he's kind of a kooky dude.
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Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, I can't remember. Some software, another, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Um, the way his voice cracks at the beginning of that one clip, I really like.
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 3: I was blown away!
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Speaker 1: It worked!
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Speaker 4: It doesn't crack.
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 2: Did you know this was going on?
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Speaker 3: I was blown away! Blown away!
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Speaker 4: I'm no longer associated with a man that takes advantage of women. I support women's rights, he said when asked about the raid this morning.
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Speaker 2: Which, good for him.
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Speaker 4: Good for him that he realizes the dude's a scumbag and boots him out of his home and then starts saying wacky things to the press.
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Speaker 3: Let's see. Klubeck was charged with three felony counts of attempting to dissuade or prevent a witness or victim from testifying. One misdemeanor count of making annoying phone calls. All charges stem from his ex-partner Adva Levy's criminal case in which she's accused of using dating apps. to steal from rich older men so man he's running a house of madness there.
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Speaker 4: Kubek's a little kooky though because who a little who tags swalwell as like the next big thing i mean what from his maybe he's better behind the scenes but his public persona is like you're weak man you are weak t But Klubeck, who's one of Swalwell's largest benefactors back in the day, spent over a million dollars to support Swalwell's... I forgot Swalwell ran for governor in California and didn't even get a sniff. Oh, that was just before the sex abuse allegations. Klubeck spent a million bucks on that. And flew Swalwell to France for some sort of... thing to give you it's the sort of thing you do spent 31 grand on that sort of thing you do you send somebody to france to some conference and then they come back and then apparently that gives you foreign policy credibility wow so he's.
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Speaker 3: Got porn skanks bilking him he's got political connivers and hucksters bilking him this guy's just he's a target and then they and they busted the trust which again i understand you're not supposed to do you don't bust the trust.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no! What would you do there?
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 3: I was blown away.
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Speaker 4: The weird-voiced benefactor, who now disavowes Swalwell, has had troubles of his own. He was about to marry a penthouse pet accused of stealing from rich sugar daddies before he called it off.
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Speaker 3: Get the f * * * out of here. The aforementioned porn skank. Yes, that's correct.
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Speaker 2: A penthouse pet? Is that still a thing?
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Speaker 3: Whatever that means. No kidding. Who cares?
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Speaker 2: What is that?
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Speaker 4: So he was he dating her and didn't like somehow caught wind that, oh, wait a second. I've noticed in your history, you dated a whole bunch of rich guys and ended up taking their money.
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Speaker 3: And after the law came after her for doing this over and over again, he was like, oh, no, she actually loves me. She hasn't busted the trust because you don't bust a trust. But he stood up for her. He said, no, we're actually crazy in love. Poor bastard.
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Speaker 4: She didn't bust the trust. Because as you know, that's a line that there's no crossing.
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Speaker 3: No, don't bust the trust. That's I'm getting that tattooed on me. All right. So this poor guy, he was good at whatever the hell it was. How do you somebody figure out how he made his money? Would just Stephen Klubeck. He was good at that.
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Speaker 4: Great conversation about that on the dispatch podcast yesterday.
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Speaker 3: There are no other podcasts. Just ours.
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Speaker 2: Are you smart? Necessarily. Just because you were able to make a ton of money in some industry.
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Speaker 3: Timeshares.
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Speaker 2: His thing was timeshares?
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Speaker 3: So it was an honorable and fine profession.
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Speaker 2: And they were using the example of Trump or Ramaswamy.
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Speaker 3: Or no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: Uh....
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Speaker 4: But yeah, Ramaswamy Vivek, like, you know, with that crazy ad that he put out, like who would think that that wasn't going to backfire on you? So they're having a conversation. Well, he became a billionaire. I've always gone with the you don't become a billionaire accidentally. You got to be damn sharp to be able to do that. But maybe it's just maybe it's so narrow.
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Speaker 3: Well, the example we love to give for why it's idiotic to demonize billionaires, you know, the burger stand guy or really anything where you got you make a dollar off of every customer. If 100 people like it, it's fine. If 1,000 people like it, it's fine. If a million people like it, it's fine. But God help you, if a billion people like your product and want to give you a dollar for it, that makes you an evil person, according to their idiotic philosophy.
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Speaker 4: You still got to hire well and navigate tax policies.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things to do to run a business at all. And then to end up a billionaire.
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Speaker 4: I don't see how you could do that without being rich. Just generally high IQ. But or is it just such a narrow thing that you can be an idiot.
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Speaker 2: In every other aspect? But that one, is that possible?
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Speaker 3: Well, or more germane to this discussion, can you be utterly unwise when it comes to affairs of the loins?
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Speaker 4: Well, easily do. Well, I don't think he would. The loins factored in with Swalwell. He tagged Swalwell like he's the next big. I mean, next guy he is. He's just got president written all over him.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: A lot of folks on the Democrat media side said the same thing. They've been touting Swalwell as the next big thing for a long time. We've been mocking it for that long because he's, you know, a California guy and we're aware of him for years.
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Speaker 4: Maybe behind the scenes, he's bigger. He's more impressive. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: In front of the scenes, he came off as an idiot.
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Speaker 3: He's handsome and he says bad things about Trump. I love him. He's the best. He should be president.
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Speaker 4: Affairs of the loins. That's a special pass for everyone, including myself, because all kinds of. The combination of the love chemicals or the sex chemicals, all kinds of common sense can go.
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Speaker 2: Out the window.
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Speaker 3: Never noticed. Oh, speaking of that intelligence and all, I don't know why they did this. I think they were commenting on a story that is circulating right now, but went back to the original Dunning-Kruger effect. that incompetent people don't know they're incompetent. And actually looking at that study, it is so interesting to see it fleshed out just a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Is that worth talking about at depth? Absolutely. I love that topic. I feel like incompetence and.
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Speaker 4: Mental illness, to a certain extent, is if you're worried about being crazy, you probably aren't crazy.
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Speaker 2: The really crazy people are not worried about it.
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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Ah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dunning-Kruger thing, we ought to do a whole segment on coming up next. I'm trying to figure out what to.
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Speaker 2: Squeeze in here.
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Speaker 4: I'm not good at memorizing my effects or the names of things like that, because there's another one about, have you ever heard this one about, it's like with music, for whatever reason, if you turn up the volume, we perceive it as sounding better. And that is one of the things that misleads all kinds of musicians, either about their playing or about their.
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Speaker 3: Equipment, volume.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 2: But also with like, you know, this amplifier, you plug into an amplifier.
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Speaker 3: Is that the Cloward Piven strategy? No, that's something different.
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Speaker 4: You plug into this amplifier, use this pedal or whatever. If it's louder than the last thing you tested, it sounds better to you.
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Speaker 2: You think it's better. That's the problem. Wow.
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Speaker 4: So some guy just playing louder, you think, well, that guitar sounds great or the music itself or whatever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I don't know why that just more.
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Speaker 3: Well, I know when I, you know, I boop up my, my earbud level or something like that. And it gets louder. That feeling of joy and excitement and pleasure. It goes up with the volume that I realized you're going to ruin your ears. And I try to back off, but then you turn it down just one notch. And it's like, yeah, it's not as good.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: I do that all the time. My music's too loud. Turned down a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Oh, no, it's just kind of, oh, I was having a good time. I was tapping my foot, bopping my head. This song's no good.
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Speaker 2: Do you think you're incompetent? If you don't.
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Speaker 3: If the answer's no, you are.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 3: If you never worry about it. The answer's yes, you're not.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? That and other stuff on the way.
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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Speaker 6: A judge in Florida recently sentenced the former director of the state's gambling addiction hotline to 10 years in prison for stealing nearly $ 1. 5 million from his employer to fund his gambling habit.
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Speaker 2: He was then sentenced to 20.
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Speaker 6: Years after he asked the judge to go double or nothing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably true.
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Speaker 4: It's like you have alcoholics manning the alcoholic hotline or drug addicts or whatever. He was a gambling addict who slipped or went back to his old ways or whatever.
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Speaker 3: Wow, wow, wow. So maybe he's a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which I think a lot of us have heard of through the years. It's the idea that people who are incompetent don't know they're incompetent and they actually think they're competent.
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Speaker 4: And doesn't everybody the first time they hear that think oh right because you know people like.
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Speaker 3: That yeah yeah um and and that seemed to be.
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Speaker 4: Blissfully perfectly okay with the fact that they suck at what.
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Speaker 3: They do and i came across the original study from uh back in the 90s uh from cornell university i'm going to read some of it to you because it's written beautifully this is part of the executive summary People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. These authors suggest that this overestimation occurs in part because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden. Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across four studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of, and it's quite a range, of humor, grammar, and logic, grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although, this is the bottom quartile now, although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
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Speaker 1: Whoa!
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Speaker 3: Several analyses linked this miscalculation to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. paradoxically, improving the skills of participants and thus increasing their metacognitive competence helped them recognize the limitation of their own abilities.
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Speaker 4: So are we talking about just general incompetence at life or at a specific thing? Is everybody are you born because I mean, I'm incompetent. You you you you take off the top of somebody's head and say work on their brain. I would declare myself incompetent very, very quickly. I'm incompetent brain surgery. Or are you talking about just like a general tendency toward incompetence?
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Speaker 3: Well, I just I'm going to go with their verbiage, metacognitive skill or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Anyway, they write, it is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person so afflicted is incapable of knowing that he is incompetent. To have such knowledge would already be a remedy to a good portion of the offense. And they start the main part of the executive summary with, The 1995 case of MacArthur Wheeler, who walked into two Pittsburgh banks and robbed them in broad daylight with no visible attempt at disguise. He was arrested later that night, less than an hour after videotapes of him were taken from surveillance cameras and broadcast on the news. When police later showed him the surveillance tapes, Mr. Wheeler stared in incredulity. Quote, but I wore the juice, he mumbled.
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Speaker 2: Apparently, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Wheeler was under the impression that rubbing one's face with lemon juice rendered it invisible to video cameras. We bring up the unfortunate affairs of Mr. Wheeler to make three points. The first two are non-controversial. First, in many domains in life, success and satisfaction depend on knowledge, wisdom, or savvy in knowing which rules to follow and which strategies to pursue. This is true not only for committing crimes, but also for many tasks in the social and intellectual domains, such as promoting effective leadership, Raising children, constructing a solid logical argument, or designing a rigorous psychological study.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 4: So they fit all that because I remember, I think we talked about that before.
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Speaker 2: I'd read it, the.
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Speaker 4: Whole lemon juice on the face. Doesn't that just make you a crazy person as opposed to like incompetent at raising a family?
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Speaker 3: Well, there are different levels of stupid, you know, of lack of metacognition.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, so that guy on first base, his name is who? Sorry, that's an inside comment.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not going there. So it's non-controversial that it's best to have savvy and intelligence and knowledge. Second, people differ widely in the knowledge and strategies they apply in these domains.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Some of the knowledge and theories that people apply to their actions are sound and meet with favorable results. Others, like the lemon juice hypothesis of MacArthur Wheeler, are imperfect at best and wrongheaded, incompetent or dysfunctional at worst. Perhaps more controversial is the third point, the one that is the focus of this article. We argue that when people are incompetent in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction, they suffer a dual burden. Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. Instead, like Mr. Wheeler, they are left with the mistaken impression that they are doing just fine. As Miller perceptibly argued in the quote that opens this article, and as Charles Darwin sagely noted over a century ago, ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember one of my favorite professors in college drawing a very simple line on the chalkboard with the certainty goes down with knowledge.
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Speaker 3: So one more thing. This is from a commentator. The incompetent are blessed with absolute blinding certainty. Their brain protects them from their own ignorance, allowing them to speak first, demand authority, and never second guess their decisions. Meanwhile, the actual experts suffer the exact inverse. Top performers in the study consistently underestimated their rank because a task was easy for them. They falsely assumed it was easy for everyone else. They hesitate. They obsess over nuance. They assume they have nothing unique to add.
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Speaker 2: I second-guess everything.
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Speaker 3: I've said more than once, I'm the saddest level of intelligent. I'm just smart enough to realize how smart I'm not. And I see people who are way smarter than me, and I think, oh, wow. Too bad I'm so dumb. Maybe if I put.
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Speaker 2: Juice on my face and nobody can see me.
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Speaker 3: Come on, juice.
00:37:32
Speaker 2: Nobody can see how dumb I am.
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Speaker 3: Juice.
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Speaker 1: And the Milwaukee Bulls with one of the all-time World Series beatdowns. 10-1. They out-hit Tampa Bay 16-3.
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Speaker 3: The roar of the crowd. And they're one point away from the first World Series title in franchise history. You got to love a home game. Except it wasn't. They were at Tampa Bay, and it was striking watching the game, how numerous and loud the Brewers fans were. They took over the damn stadium.
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Speaker 2: I wish they were playing.
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Speaker 4: The Yankees or somebody that got more attention or whatever, because the Brewers are an unbelievable baseball team.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: And it's going to be kind of lost to history unless you're a big baseball fan, because it's not... you know, against a premier team are getting a lot of attention. They are really, really good. I was just reading the thing about how they play baseball, you know, the way.
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Speaker 2: People enjoy it. Lots of hits. Try to make contact. Get on base.
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Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 4: You know, all the stuff that's exciting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because the world somehow got convinced that strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, home run. Strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, home run was what people wanted. Not constant action on the bases and bases being stolen and guys trying to advance and all. Anyway, it's super fun to watch. But I thought this was interesting. Tampa Bay, which scrapes the bottom in attendance every year. I mean, it's like perennial bottom five for some reason. They're building a new stadium. Maybe that'll help because it's a beautiful place, St. Pete, to go see a baseball game. But the least expensive ticket. Like a standing room only on the secondary market for the first two games in Milwaukee was about $ 2, 500 just to get in the stadium. The least expensive ticket at the trop, as they say, $ 500. One-fifth of that. So Milwaukee fans are like, hell yes, I'm going to fly down. I'm going to stay a couple of nights in a hotel. I'm going to buy tickets, and it's going to cost me less than the damn home games. So they flooded down there. That's a road game.
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Speaker 4: Well, when you've been a long-suffering sports fan in any town and your team finally catches fire and gets their day, it's very exciting.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I knew there was one more thing I wanted to say. The stadium where Milwaukee plays at home sold out for people to watch the game on a screen. Wow. Oh, now that's an enthusiastic fan base. You gotta love that.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what I'll do when I'm old. Retired.
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Speaker 4: When teams catch fire, I will just go be a fan there for a while.
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Speaker 3: I'll buy the gear, man. I'll spend the money.
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Speaker 4: Because the enthusiasm in a town, especially if you haven't won in a long time, it's so fun.
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Speaker 2: It's so fun. Everybody's friendly. Everybody's wearing the gear. It's just fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the positive feelings are good. It reminds me of what it's like to be a human being again, where people would gather and be together and be part of a community, whatever community, even if it's a somewhat artificial one rooting for a bunch of Venezuelans to play baseball. But anyway, that was great. So speaking of popular culture, I also I fulfilled my vow and went to see the hit documentary. You can see everything yesterday. The Elizabeth Holmes thing.
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Speaker 4: So we've got to slow down right here because I don't know how many texts we got the other day when I was raving about this movie because I saw it Saturday night. People say you never mentioned the name of the movie, but you keep talking. The name of the movie is you can see everything. That's not just a phrase we're throwing into the review.
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Speaker 3: Yes. It's not just a comment about the bloke in the shower. It's not.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's the name of the movie. So that's the movie. You can see everything. And no spoilers, by the way. Absolutely no spoilers here. I've thought this through. Which I find it tough to do because practically everything was a spoiler to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to drive by, give you the drive-by assessment. It is a fascinating bit of filmmaking. Riveting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for its length.
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Speaker 3: Man, it's speaking of that. Go ahead. Sorry.
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Speaker 2: I was about to say, maybe.
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Speaker 4: You're going to contradict that and not agree. I was going to say, for a movie that long, I was surprised that it kept my attention the whole time.
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Speaker 3: Manage your bladder folks. That was going to be like having a window seat on a long flight.
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Speaker 2: That was my situation.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to go get popcorn and I thought, you know, I'll pick a point where I thought, and I thought, God, there's no moment I want to miss here because there's too much information coming out.
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Speaker 3: God knows what's going to pop up in the next 60 seconds. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to miss this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway. So I thought it was, it was fascinating. It is long. Uh, so again, manage your bladder, uh, appropriately. Um, Super interesting. And after it's been out for a while, maybe we'll have a discussion about it and take some emails and stuff. But I wouldn't want to ruin it for people.
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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't either, because a lot of the enjoyment is just it's not at all what I was expecting anyway.
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Speaker 3: Humans, man. What are you going to do?
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Speaker 4: But as I tweeted out the other day, it's so many different topics because when I explain it to some people who are not into it, it's like. corporate fraud's not my genre for movies to go to. No, it's every bit. It's, it's Shakespearean. That's why I said it's Shakespearean. It's like, it's all of human, of human life, relationships, honesty, greed, sex, everything that exists in human life is in that, in that show.
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Speaker 3: What was that award winning documentary that came out, um, oh gosh, it was probably 15, 20 years ago now, but it was something, something crazy, extra fast or what was the title? It was four different documentaries about four different people who have different passions. And that it finally dawned on me because I'm a bit slow witted after watching that, that every documentary is about humans and, and, and, exploring their fascination through their eyes, you don't need to be a clock repair enthusiast.
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Speaker 2: It's not about clock repair.
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Speaker 3: It's about passion. And it finally dawned on me, and so I've become a much bigger fan of documentaries now because I used to, like a half-wit, think, well, I have no interest in banana gathering.
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Speaker 4: Is that what it's about? Him and his wife and his kids and his aspirations and blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a confused look on your face? Oh, no, not a confused look. Are you talking bigger, stronger, faster?
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Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, I really enjoy that. It's been ages since I had to watch it again. Oh, that's right. The blind moles. I'd forgotten about that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. My brother's going today. I've tried.
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Speaker 4: I've convinced so many people to go before the spoilers hit them. And I was getting texts from numerous people yesterday. I went to the movie is like, oh, my God, I can't believe that. responses to various parts of the movie.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There were more laughs than I expected.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 3: It's a comedy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In a way. So speaking of popular culture, as we bop from topic to topic, this is so interesting. I'm reading Peter Boghossian's screed of late. You've probably seen this French woman on social media, blonde hair gal, um kind of a pointy nose i don't know she's standing in front of an orange road sign a couple other signs um and she is begging rioters um i'll say in england in english why are you doing this what's the point of doing this this is not the cause that's not what this is about and then referring to a lone employee inside a shop that they're attempting to break into and loot um he's all alone. Stop. Stop doing that. And then the looters respond, it's snack time, which refers to the traditional French after-school snack. Take the wine, all of it. I've got my groceries. There's shampoo. Do you want some ice cream? And someone pulls her back, an off-camera voice yells, you're going to get hurt, telling her to stop, just get out of their way. Well, you know, that's an interesting exchange and powerful exchange. And the shop owner told the Daily Mail, I don't know her name. She just comes here now and then. And that's all we know. But in the way social media does, and this happens to be on the right, multiple narratives and versions of this have cropped up with Photoshopping or AI touch-ups or whatever. Visigrad 24, which I follow on Twitter, called her a left wing protester in the looters. Second and third generation migrants also said they told her to shut up because they had urgent shopping. Neither exchange is in the clip and other claims are unverified. Clay Travis said it's her store and that France has a left wing government. Both are false. They do have a left wing government, though, compared to so Bogosian for France. It's not a left wing government. I think for the rest of the world, it's left-wing government. But let's not get hung up. This other Twitter identity, I guess, said she voted to let them in. Nothing really supports this. Although she hints at it with her, this is not the cause. But she voted what? She voted to let them in, another says. This other account called her an activist and boutique owner. who is spat on and trampled. Nothing supports any of that. And it goes on. I've got a list 15 deep.
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Speaker 4: Everybody should be forced to learn about the French Revolution, which is like most revolutions, like almost all of the Arab Spring, for instance.
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Speaker 1: But.
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Speaker 2: More people need to learn about revolutions.
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Speaker 4: Maybe the problem we have in the United States is we have the almost only example of a revolution ending up the way it ended up without lots and lots of good people being killed in the street by crazy people. We're like the only example. So in our heads, I think, and for a lot of the world who hears about the American Revolution, that's what you think revolutions are.
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Speaker 2: That ain't the way it usually works.
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Speaker 1: Right, right.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 4: Or one faction decides, here's our chance. Like one of the most powerful states would have decided, here we go. And, you know, F your constitutional Congress. Now it's the Virginia is the name of the whole thing. And we've got an army in the street making sure you do things the way we want to do it.
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Speaker 3: Because whoever is the most vicious wins and the best armed wins. That's 98% of revolution.
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Speaker 4: How do the people in the streets in France not know about the French Revolution and how you always end up turning on each other? You might have the most idealistic causes that everyone would agree with in the beginning, but the bad guys don't necessarily agree with you.
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Speaker 3: Because their schools stink like blue cheese. That's what these protests started about.
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Speaker 6: One of the things that Gadiaz and Gadiaz said is within 18 months of him taking office, Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Will no longer exist. To the applause of the crowd here.
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Speaker 4: Over the past few days, tens of thousands of Israelis have flown in from overseas, many to vote against Netanyahu. That's an interesting thing because I got a lot of Israelis don't live in the country. And so tens of thousands flying back to Israel just so they can vote. I was just looking up at the TV. Voting is going on right now. It's their first national election since October 7th, 2023. Highest turnout in 50 years. That they got going on right now. And this guy that is leading in the polls, though, nobody has a big enough lead that they're going to be able to form a government easily because they get the whole parliamentary system that I barely understand. But they say it's going to take weeks or months to figure out how this has all come together. But this Gaddy Eskin, Eisencott. As you just heard there, he vowed Hamas won't exist at all within 18 months of me taking over. So I feel like the crowd that is anti-Bibi, who thinks that the, using my finger quotes, genocide in Gaza is going to, you know, will be over. Thank God if you booed out Netanyahu. No, this guy is hardcore. We're cleaning out Gaza. Hamas is over.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We'll see how that turns out.
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Speaker 3: You wanted a two-state solution?
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Speaker 2: Oh, he's anti-two-state solution.
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Speaker 3: It went away on October 3rd, 23, for good.
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Speaker 2: This guy's completely against that idea.
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Speaker 3: So is Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.
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Speaker 3: So is Hezbollah. So is the PLO. So is the PLA.
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Speaker 2: You know who doesn't want a two-state solution?
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Speaker 4: Freaking Hamas. That should be mentioned every time the conversation comes up. The official government, or at least until, you know, October 7th, of Gaza, Hamas, doesn't believe in a two-state solution. In fact, they don't believe a Jew should be alive.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: That is something.
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Speaker 4: Highs turned out in 50 years, so you'd have to go back to 76? That's like, you know, they're still fighting wars against the surrounding countries back then, so.
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Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of foreign elections, were you going to dive into anything? The big Brazil election is getting a lot of attention, too. Brazil's a gigantic country, an important one in our hemisphere. But so the socialist, what do they call him? What's his nickname? Lola? She was a showgirl, whatever. Lula. He won, surprising a lot of folks, over a much more conservative candidate. But one thing that annoys the crap out of me about the coverage of this, I think I've heard it 27 times in the lame stream media is that the conservative candidate Bolsonaro was suing because of a last second judicial order to extend the voting period. But every American news network says they're suing over the extension to the voting period that both candidates had asked for. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is such willful, biased reporting that The conservative guy said, hey, this region has been devastated by flooding. People are having trouble getting to the polls. We need to extend it in this region. Well, the judge said, yeah, yeah, not only that, but let's send more buses into the super poor quadrants of the urban places because the government buses poor people to the polls to vote. So let's extend that, too. And Bolsonaro saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, that came out of nowhere. There was no reason for that. That was just an effort to beef up the Lula vote. So, if you have a lead, sit on the ballot box.
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Speaker 4: Well, the coverage of elections in Mississippi is bad if you don't live there. So I don't expect it to be good in other countries.
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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Speaker 4: We have an exciting update and a big story we loved back in the day.
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Speaker 2: Remember this?
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Speaker 7: We just wrapped up a one-on-one interview with Stephen Klubeck. At one point, he was running for governor of California, but he dropped out to endorse Eric Swalwell, a decision he clearly regrets.
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Speaker 2: Did you suspect this at all?
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 3: I was blown away.
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Speaker 7: A political explosion.
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Speaker 3: Like, blown away.
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Speaker 7: Billionaire Stephen Klubeck, once a major donor and supporter of Eric Swalwell, now publicly turning on him with rage.
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Speaker 3: Bad.
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Speaker 7: Amid sexual assault allegations.
00:19:02
Speaker 3: I am no longer a Democrat. I'm now a libertarian Republican. Because that's what a blue dog Democrat used to be.
00:19:12
Speaker 4: So it seems that this morning the FBI raided that dude's mansion? Looking for more information on Eric Swalwell, former congressman and wannabe president, who did something he shouldn't do. It was illegal with sex workers, apparently.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah. One former staffer, a handful of staffers have accused him of sexual impropriety, including rape when she was too intoxicated to consent. Another woman has accused him of drugging and sexually assaulting her in 2018. Others have alleged he sent them unsolicited Richard pics.
00:19:47
Speaker 2: Want to see my genitalia?
00:19:49
Speaker 3: Here it is.
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Speaker 4: One of the women accused him of something. Is that one of the ones that he's on the bed with from that video that we watched a million times?
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Speaker 3: I don't recall.
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Speaker 2: Or rolling around in the bed?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Could be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Wow, so Stephen Klubeck, the great, not gay, he's straight. Because, you know, the other aspect of his act that I think is just amazing. is he's come out and said, you know, he can't back Swalwell, he supports women's rights, blah, blah, blah. Get the f * * * out of here. That's right. He about fell for, in fact, he did fall for, the cops saved him from it, this porn star girl who convinced this fat old billionaire that she was hot for him and was going to marry him and make all of his wildest dreams come true, even though she's a serial guy bilker. Oh, what a fool. My Lord. You don't bust the trust.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's what happened. Swalwell busted the trust. So he's living with the gazillionaire. He's living at the gazillionaire's house. And this guy apparently thought Swalwell might be president someday. And I'm going to be, you know, in like Flynn. I'm going to be tied to this dude and all kinds of cool things will come my way. Well, that didn't work out because Swalwell busted the trust. And you don't do that. It's my understanding.
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Speaker 3: You don't exist in my life.
00:21:10
Speaker 4: And so the FBI raids the Beverly Hills mansion today. MSN reporting the raid is linked to a sex worker. A senior law enforcement official told the Post. But there's a number of other charges, as Joe mentioned.
00:21:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: How did this guy make his money, Stephen Klubeck? How did he become rich? Because he's kind of a kooky dude.
00:21:35
Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, I can't remember. Some software, another, I don't know.
00:21:42
Speaker 4: Um, the way his voice cracks at the beginning of that one clip, I really like.
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Speaker 5: No!
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Speaker 3: I was blown away!
00:21:49
Speaker 1: It worked!
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Speaker 4: It doesn't crack.
00:21:51
Speaker 5: No!
00:21:52
Speaker 2: Did you know this was going on?
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Speaker 3: I was blown away! Blown away!
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Speaker 4: I'm no longer associated with a man that takes advantage of women. I support women's rights, he said when asked about the raid this morning.
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Speaker 2: Which, good for him.
00:22:06
Speaker 4: Good for him that he realizes the dude's a scumbag and boots him out of his home and then starts saying wacky things to the press.
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Speaker 3: Let's see. Klubeck was charged with three felony counts of attempting to dissuade or prevent a witness or victim from testifying. One misdemeanor count of making annoying phone calls. All charges stem from his ex-partner Adva Levy's criminal case in which she's accused of using dating apps. to steal from rich older men so man he's running a house of madness there.
00:22:39
Speaker 4: Kubek's a little kooky though because who a little who tags swalwell as like the next big thing i mean what from his maybe he's better behind the scenes but his public persona is like you're weak man you are weak t But Klubeck, who's one of Swalwell's largest benefactors back in the day, spent over a million dollars to support Swalwell's... I forgot Swalwell ran for governor in California and didn't even get a sniff. Oh, that was just before the sex abuse allegations. Klubeck spent a million bucks on that. And flew Swalwell to France for some sort of... thing to give you it's the sort of thing you do spent 31 grand on that sort of thing you do you send somebody to france to some conference and then they come back and then apparently that gives you foreign policy credibility wow so he's.
00:23:29
Speaker 3: Got porn skanks bilking him he's got political connivers and hucksters bilking him this guy's just he's a target and then they and they busted the trust which again i understand you're not supposed to do you don't bust the trust.
00:23:45
Speaker 1: Oh, no! What would you do there?
00:23:48
Speaker 5: No!
00:23:49
Speaker 3: I was blown away.
00:23:50
Speaker 4: The weird-voiced benefactor, who now disavowes Swalwell, has had troubles of his own. He was about to marry a penthouse pet accused of stealing from rich sugar daddies before he called it off.
00:24:04
Speaker 3: Get the f * * * out of here. The aforementioned porn skank. Yes, that's correct.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: A penthouse pet? Is that still a thing?
00:24:12
Speaker 3: Whatever that means. No kidding. Who cares?
00:24:17
Speaker 2: What is that?
00:24:18
Speaker 4: So he was he dating her and didn't like somehow caught wind that, oh, wait a second. I've noticed in your history, you dated a whole bunch of rich guys and ended up taking their money.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: And after the law came after her for doing this over and over again, he was like, oh, no, she actually loves me. She hasn't busted the trust because you don't bust a trust. But he stood up for her. He said, no, we're actually crazy in love. Poor bastard.
00:24:43
Speaker 4: She didn't bust the trust. Because as you know, that's a line that there's no crossing.
00:24:48
Speaker 3: No, don't bust the trust. That's I'm getting that tattooed on me. All right. So this poor guy, he was good at whatever the hell it was. How do you somebody figure out how he made his money? Would just Stephen Klubeck. He was good at that.
00:25:01
Speaker 4: Great conversation about that on the dispatch podcast yesterday.
00:25:06
Speaker 3: There are no other podcasts. Just ours.
00:25:08
Speaker 2: Are you smart? Necessarily. Just because you were able to make a ton of money in some industry.
00:25:16
Speaker 3: Timeshares.
00:25:18
Speaker 2: His thing was timeshares?
00:25:19
Speaker 3: So it was an honorable and fine profession.
00:25:22
Speaker 2: And they were using the example of Trump or Ramaswamy.
00:25:26
Speaker 3: Or no, no, no, no.
00:25:29
Speaker 1: Uh....
00:25:31
Speaker 4: But yeah, Ramaswamy Vivek, like, you know, with that crazy ad that he put out, like who would think that that wasn't going to backfire on you? So they're having a conversation. Well, he became a billionaire. I've always gone with the you don't become a billionaire accidentally. You got to be damn sharp to be able to do that. But maybe it's just maybe it's so narrow.
00:25:49
Speaker 3: Well, the example we love to give for why it's idiotic to demonize billionaires, you know, the burger stand guy or really anything where you got you make a dollar off of every customer. If 100 people like it, it's fine. If 1,000 people like it, it's fine. If a million people like it, it's fine. But God help you, if a billion people like your product and want to give you a dollar for it, that makes you an evil person, according to their idiotic philosophy.
00:26:13
Speaker 4: You still got to hire well and navigate tax policies.
00:26:16
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things to do to run a business at all. And then to end up a billionaire.
00:26:22
Speaker 4: I don't see how you could do that without being rich. Just generally high IQ. But or is it just such a narrow thing that you can be an idiot.
00:26:32
Speaker 2: In every other aspect? But that one, is that possible?
00:26:36
Speaker 3: Well, or more germane to this discussion, can you be utterly unwise when it comes to affairs of the loins?
00:26:44
Speaker 4: Well, easily do. Well, I don't think he would. The loins factored in with Swalwell. He tagged Swalwell like he's the next big. I mean, next guy he is. He's just got president written all over him.
00:26:55
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:26:55
Speaker 3: A lot of folks on the Democrat media side said the same thing. They've been touting Swalwell as the next big thing for a long time. We've been mocking it for that long because he's, you know, a California guy and we're aware of him for years.
00:27:07
Speaker 4: Maybe behind the scenes, he's bigger. He's more impressive. I don't know.
00:27:09
Speaker 2: In front of the scenes, he came off as an idiot.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: He's handsome and he says bad things about Trump. I love him. He's the best. He should be president.
00:27:18
Speaker 4: Affairs of the loins. That's a special pass for everyone, including myself, because all kinds of. The combination of the love chemicals or the sex chemicals, all kinds of common sense can go.
00:27:29
Speaker 2: Out the window.
00:27:30
Speaker 3: Never noticed. Oh, speaking of that intelligence and all, I don't know why they did this. I think they were commenting on a story that is circulating right now, but went back to the original Dunning-Kruger effect. that incompetent people don't know they're incompetent. And actually looking at that study, it is so interesting to see it fleshed out just a little bit.
00:27:57
Speaker 2: Is that worth talking about at depth? Absolutely. I love that topic. I feel like incompetence and.
00:28:06
Speaker 4: Mental illness, to a certain extent, is if you're worried about being crazy, you probably aren't crazy.
00:28:10
Speaker 2: The really crazy people are not worried about it.
00:28:14
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
00:28:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:28:15
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00:29:06
Speaker 1: Ah.
00:29:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dunning-Kruger thing, we ought to do a whole segment on coming up next. I'm trying to figure out what to.
00:29:15
Speaker 2: Squeeze in here.
00:29:15
Speaker 4: I'm not good at memorizing my effects or the names of things like that, because there's another one about, have you ever heard this one about, it's like with music, for whatever reason, if you turn up the volume, we perceive it as sounding better. And that is one of the things that misleads all kinds of musicians, either about their playing or about their.
00:29:38
Speaker 3: Equipment, volume.
00:29:30
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
00:29:49
Speaker 2: But also with like, you know, this amplifier, you plug into an amplifier.
00:29:52
Speaker 3: Is that the Cloward Piven strategy? No, that's something different.
00:29:56
Speaker 4: You plug into this amplifier, use this pedal or whatever. If it's louder than the last thing you tested, it sounds better to you.
00:30:02
Speaker 2: You think it's better. That's the problem. Wow.
00:30:06
Speaker 4: So some guy just playing louder, you think, well, that guitar sounds great or the music itself or whatever.
00:30:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:30:13
Speaker 4: I don't know why that just more.
00:30:14
Speaker 3: Well, I know when I, you know, I boop up my, my earbud level or something like that. And it gets louder. That feeling of joy and excitement and pleasure. It goes up with the volume that I realized you're going to ruin your ears. And I try to back off, but then you turn it down just one notch. And it's like, yeah, it's not as good.
00:30:32
Speaker 5: Right.
00:30:33
Speaker 1: I know.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: I do that all the time. My music's too loud. Turned down a little bit.
00:30:35
Speaker 4: Oh, no, it's just kind of, oh, I was having a good time. I was tapping my foot, bopping my head. This song's no good.
00:30:43
Speaker 2: Do you think you're incompetent? If you don't.
00:30:46
Speaker 3: If the answer's no, you are.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: Exactly.
00:30:48
Speaker 3: If you never worry about it. The answer's yes, you're not.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? That and other stuff on the way.
00:30:54
Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty.
00:31:01
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
00:31:07
Speaker 6: A judge in Florida recently sentenced the former director of the state's gambling addiction hotline to 10 years in prison for stealing nearly $ 1. 5 million from his employer to fund his gambling habit.
00:31:18
Speaker 2: He was then sentenced to 20.
00:31:19
Speaker 6: Years after he asked the judge to go double or nothing.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably true.
00:31:27
Speaker 4: It's like you have alcoholics manning the alcoholic hotline or drug addicts or whatever. He was a gambling addict who slipped or went back to his old ways or whatever.
00:31:37
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, wow. So maybe he's a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which I think a lot of us have heard of through the years. It's the idea that people who are incompetent don't know they're incompetent and they actually think they're competent.
00:31:50
Speaker 4: And doesn't everybody the first time they hear that think oh right because you know people like.
00:31:56
Speaker 3: That yeah yeah um and and that seemed to be.
00:32:00
Speaker 4: Blissfully perfectly okay with the fact that they suck at what.
00:32:04
Speaker 3: They do and i came across the original study from uh back in the 90s uh from cornell university i'm going to read some of it to you because it's written beautifully this is part of the executive summary People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. These authors suggest that this overestimation occurs in part because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden. Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across four studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of, and it's quite a range, of humor, grammar, and logic, grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although, this is the bottom quartile now, although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: Whoa!
00:32:59
Speaker 3: Several analyses linked this miscalculation to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. paradoxically, improving the skills of participants and thus increasing their metacognitive competence helped them recognize the limitation of their own abilities.
00:33:16
Speaker 4: So are we talking about just general incompetence at life or at a specific thing? Is everybody are you born because I mean, I'm incompetent. You you you you take off the top of somebody's head and say work on their brain. I would declare myself incompetent very, very quickly. I'm incompetent brain surgery. Or are you talking about just like a general tendency toward incompetence?
00:33:38
Speaker 3: Well, I just I'm going to go with their verbiage, metacognitive skill or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Anyway, they write, it is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person so afflicted is incapable of knowing that he is incompetent. To have such knowledge would already be a remedy to a good portion of the offense. And they start the main part of the executive summary with, The 1995 case of MacArthur Wheeler, who walked into two Pittsburgh banks and robbed them in broad daylight with no visible attempt at disguise. He was arrested later that night, less than an hour after videotapes of him were taken from surveillance cameras and broadcast on the news. When police later showed him the surveillance tapes, Mr. Wheeler stared in incredulity. Quote, but I wore the juice, he mumbled.
00:34:23
Speaker 2: Apparently, Mr.
00:34:23
Speaker 3: Wheeler was under the impression that rubbing one's face with lemon juice rendered it invisible to video cameras. We bring up the unfortunate affairs of Mr. Wheeler to make three points. The first two are non-controversial. First, in many domains in life, success and satisfaction depend on knowledge, wisdom, or savvy in knowing which rules to follow and which strategies to pursue. This is true not only for committing crimes, but also for many tasks in the social and intellectual domains, such as promoting effective leadership, Raising children, constructing a solid logical argument, or designing a rigorous psychological study.
00:34:59
Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 4: So they fit all that because I remember, I think we talked about that before.
00:35:04
Speaker 2: I'd read it, the.
00:35:04
Speaker 4: Whole lemon juice on the face. Doesn't that just make you a crazy person as opposed to like incompetent at raising a family?
00:35:13
Speaker 3: Well, there are different levels of stupid, you know, of lack of metacognition.
00:35:19
Speaker 4: Anyway, so that guy on first base, his name is who? Sorry, that's an inside comment.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not going there. So it's non-controversial that it's best to have savvy and intelligence and knowledge. Second, people differ widely in the knowledge and strategies they apply in these domains.
00:35:39
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:35:41
Speaker 3: Some of the knowledge and theories that people apply to their actions are sound and meet with favorable results. Others, like the lemon juice hypothesis of MacArthur Wheeler, are imperfect at best and wrongheaded, incompetent or dysfunctional at worst. Perhaps more controversial is the third point, the one that is the focus of this article. We argue that when people are incompetent in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction, they suffer a dual burden. Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. Instead, like Mr. Wheeler, they are left with the mistaken impression that they are doing just fine. As Miller perceptibly argued in the quote that opens this article, and as Charles Darwin sagely noted over a century ago, ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
00:36:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember one of my favorite professors in college drawing a very simple line on the chalkboard with the certainty goes down with knowledge.
00:36:47
Speaker 3: So one more thing. This is from a commentator. The incompetent are blessed with absolute blinding certainty. Their brain protects them from their own ignorance, allowing them to speak first, demand authority, and never second guess their decisions. Meanwhile, the actual experts suffer the exact inverse. Top performers in the study consistently underestimated their rank because a task was easy for them. They falsely assumed it was easy for everyone else. They hesitate. They obsess over nuance. They assume they have nothing unique to add.
00:37:13
Speaker 2: I second-guess everything.
00:37:16
Speaker 3: I've said more than once, I'm the saddest level of intelligent. I'm just smart enough to realize how smart I'm not. And I see people who are way smarter than me, and I think, oh, wow. Too bad I'm so dumb. Maybe if I put.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: Juice on my face and nobody can see me.
00:37:32
Speaker 3: Come on, juice.
00:37:32
Speaker 2: Nobody can see how dumb I am.
00:37:34
Speaker 3: Juice.
00:37:36
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