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Okay, so I know that we both saw the Odyssey this weekend.
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What did you think?
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Give it to me straight, brother.
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Because I know we're probably in alignment on it.
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Yeah, yeah, because I I I you know I grew up with that book.
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Like obviously we had to read it in school and whatever.
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And I and I read it myself even after that.
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Oh, it's a badass story.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I give it like a like it's gonna make a billion dollars because it's the Odyssey and not because it's phenomenal.
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Speak on it, son.
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Yeah, it's a seven and a half.
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I'm gonna make it.
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Seven and a half out of ten.
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I'm gonna make it.
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Maybe eight, maybe eight.
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But the only it's it's just slow.
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Like, like it's good enough to go watch, but I'll never watch it again.
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That's that's a good way to put it.
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It's zero rewatchability.
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Like, I there's nothing about that that makes me want to go through three and a half hours and watch it again.
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So I mean like like Troy.
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Troy is fucking amazing.
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I'll watch that movie anytime.
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You watch it tomorrow.
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Yeah, Troy's the shit.
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Like that, even though Troy is only a battle in the Odyssey, that movie is ten times better than that.
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Well, this is what I figured.
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I figured during the Odyssey they were gonna spoiler alert, guys.
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Uh cut off your shit.
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Now we're not gonna give too much away, but anyway.
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Um, I figured they were gonna reference a lot of, yeah, but they they didn't.
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They were in Troy, they did, but they didn't.
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They did and they didn't, yeah, you know, so I was like, cool, like waiting for some battle scenes.
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I was waiting, spoiler alert, got it.
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Uh I was I was waiting for more Achilles or Achilles, yeah.
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And then this dude, uh, what's it?
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Uh Elliot, Elliot, whatever.
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Ellen Elliott, whatever.
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Yeah, no, yeah, we're getting canceled for that.
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You're your boy, your boy, that's your boy.
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What's a good I thought that was gonna be Achilles?
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I had it all fucked up going into Well, because everyone said that there were because they when they said that was an old rumor, no?
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Yeah, it was a rumor, but I was like, hell, you can't go from Brad Pitt to that.
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Like, doesn't even make sense.
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Xavier told me that.
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He never fucked it all up for me.
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Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, whatever.
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Synap, but whatever.
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Even still, that still took me out of it because Elliot or Eliane or whatever you want to call her him, like all of 115 pounds.
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You're not the best fighter in the in his army.
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That's just not even possible.
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Oh, wait a minute.
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Why why what character is he?
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No, Sinnoh.
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Like uh, like she's supposed to be.
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I don't know.
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He's supposed to be yeah, he's supposed to be the best warrior he has.
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Who that's why he left him there to give him the the the rotion horse.
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Yeah, so no, that's the best warrior that who has.
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Odysseus.
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Oh Agamemnon.
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Agamemnon's best soldier is Achilles, obviously.
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Correct.
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Yeah, Agamemnon's the king.
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Yes, yes, okay, gotcha.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Ah, so that's why okay, okay, I got you.
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So, but like this threw me out.
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I was like, there's no way that this guy is the best warrior you got.
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He's like a fraction of the size of anyone.
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All 130 pounds.
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Yeah, all 130 pounds with the armor on.
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Shit.
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It's Bruce Lee right there.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Um, yeah, man.
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Um, okay, so that was a that was a lot about that one.
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To me personally, bro, I think that it was just a little bit um overcasted a little bit.
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Probably.
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And it's just like they had people in there for like, why?
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You know, they're in the movie for like two seconds.
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So Batman was in it, Spider-Man was in it, Spider-Man's chick was in it, yeah, um, the Punisher was in it.
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Yeah, um, who else?
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Then Jason Bourne.
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Uh uh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, and then yeah, I'm thinking about all of them, and then I'm like, and then the main vato is uh like in a good one hunting, you know.
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I'm just all like, bro, like like what's like everyone just like jumped on to be on because everyone, oh, and then Dr.
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Dre's in it too, right?
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What?
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Yeah, what's it from Shadow Compton?
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Oh yeah, I was like Xavier, Dr.
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Dre is in it.
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I was like, and then uh uh John League.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's like, oh, that's uh that's a nice uh little touch, little sprinkle sprinkle on there.
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Another thing that threw me off about it is like the pest is in it.
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Yeah, the pest.
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Damn, that movie's so funny though.
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But uh well, another thing that threw me off about that movie is like it's a Greek story, right?
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Which may or may not be true based on whatever, right?
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Somewhat true, somewhat not, whatever.
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There's no Greek people in the fucking movie.
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Like what?
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And then the way they speak, they speak like we're talking now.
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Uh there's no, they don't have like the like at least in Troy, they kind of spoke old school.
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A little, yeah, they have accents and stuff.
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Yeah, for sure.
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But in this one, it was too okay.
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Apparently Christopher Nolan did it on purpose.
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I was like, Well, that's a fucking dumb idea.
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I don't like the way that you're talking like you're talking like you're 2026.
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It's kind of like an entourage where uh they're gonna make Medellin and he's like, We're gonna shoot this shit in Spanish or whatever.
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Like, might not be the best play, bro.
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Yeah, but anyway, yeah, man.
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Um uh well, okay, so it's it's so weird, man, because there's a uh uh dichotomy, should I say, in the movie because dog is Christopher Nolan, so he's the man, yeah.
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So the cinematic cinematography looked amazing.
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No, it looked fucking amazing.
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I'm not saying that.
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Fucking 10 out of 10.
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So it's bringing you in and then it's pulling you out because of the weird shit, right?
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So I'm like, this should be badass, but it's could not, yeah.
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You know, I'm like, damn, that sucks.
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And oh man, when I saw the trailer too of um, you know, Matt Damon as Odysseus, I was like, ooh, this is gonna be fucking sweet.
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Yeah, but dude, correct me if I'm wrong, man.
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But and U2X, but in my opinion, man, and I love bro, and even Troy is a little bit out there.
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I mean, it was it was 10 out of 10, it was awesome, right?
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But I like bro less, like less is more.
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Uh it's you know what I'm saying?
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I like unknown actors, uh things things like that to where it's like um because then it because then you believe it's them.
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I guess I don't see Batman word exactly, kind of like 300 in a sense, but like no no 300 likes perfect example because Gerard Butler was known but not known.
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Correct.
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Hey, he wasn't Fatsbender was known but not known.
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So he was like I feel like that'll take um take risks anymore for sure, but because they need the money to hit because they give the money, they give uh budgets are too high.
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Oh, dude, and so it's it's kind of like Ninja Turtles, right?
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The new one.
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Um, fucking um, what's her name?
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Uh the reporter?
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April.
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April Neo's Megan Fox.
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Come on, bro.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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Like she doesn't, it doesn't turn Terminator 2.
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It's like kid, you know, like John Connor.
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For sure.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, you believe it.
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Yeah, you believe it.
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Stuff like that.
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Okay, definitely.
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Yeah, Terminator 2 is still the greatest fucking action movie all the time.
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We're gonna get there.
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Don't worry about that.
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We're gonna get there.
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Don't worry about that.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna let you off the hook without talking about Terminator.
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No, but what's it called?
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No, seriously.
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Um, and also, too, it's like the way that, yeah, you said, you know, like you kind of make your debut and your bones off of that, and it's he's forever John Connor.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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I mean, that's a fine line.
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I I get that too, but I like what you say, like just like cast on okay, like okay, like uh Man is still right, Henry Cowboy, sort of known, but he looks like fucking Superman, so I believe he's Superman.
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But if you would have brought someone else that was highly known, like I don't say Denzel, like a big actor, not Denzel as Superman, but you know what I'm saying?
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Some huge actor, and then I'm like, I just see that I'm just gonna see fucking you know for sure sometimes, though they can carry and yeah, Ben Affleck almost a little bit too Ben Affleck for Batman.
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But he did crush that.
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That suit was amazing.
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That suit was badass, yeah.
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It was the ears.
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Yeah, he did great.
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No, that that design is the best Batman suit we've ever got.
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Uh bro, Xavier's got a Batman.
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Um, it's um dude, what what is it?
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X Frank Miller, it's a Frank Miller Batman.
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Okay, but that's what that's how Zach okay, Zach Snyder designed Ben Affleck's suit based on Frank Miller's design.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, okay, cool, dude.
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Those are like uh I tell Xavier all the time, man, because he's big.
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Yeah, so like big, he's got big boots, little ears.
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I was like, and that that's exactly so he had the little ear, and the the big bat is Frank Miller's bat.
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That's dope.
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Yeah, yeah, it's just it's super cool.
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I love people's adaptation of everything as well.
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Like, I wasn't too mad at the um the new Batman.
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What did you think of that one?
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What's his name?
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The Pattinson.
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Pattinson.
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I mean, it was good, it's better than anything James Gunn has done with DC.
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Like, I boycotted all his shit.
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It sucks.
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I love Superman.
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I could not watch that fucking move.
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I tried three times.
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Well, me and you are so high on Man of Steel, though.
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Man of Steel is amazing.
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Man of Steel's fucking badass.
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Fuck yeah.
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But Superman is not, it's just not.
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I don't know what the fuck they're doing with that.
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Oh, what the new Superman?
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Oh, bro.
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I tried three times to watch it.
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Superman's my favorite superhero.
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No shit.
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I tried three times to watch it.
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I can't get past 20 minutes.
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I just turn it off.
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I've never seen it.
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You know what it looks like to me, bro?
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It looks like uh very like um looks real Marvel, in my opinion.
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It is.
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Well, it's James Gunn.
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Like it's literally Guardians of the Galaxy with Superman.
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Yeah, bro.
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I don't want that.
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No shit, right?
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Like I Guardians of the Galaxy is fine.
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When I put it with Superman, I think about it taking place in an older time.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I don't I don't think about it as modern as all the other superheroes.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I don't know.
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I think of like um it's like Alex Ross.
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You know Alex Ross?
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Yeah, his paintings are dope.
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Yeah, Alex Ross is like a great DC artist.
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Well, I mean he he's done Marvel stuff too, but he's mostly known for like his Kingdom Come.
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It looks like really like 50s looking.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, you know how like they're wearing like the suits and the top hats and stuff like that.
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Do you but that's like the Christopher Reeve version?
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That's what's in your head for sure.
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Well, I I think it's like because that that's what he wears.
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Correct.
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Yeah, so I think the old car the original Superman cartoon had the same thing for sure.
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And I think about like the Daily Planet and it being like um press and you know, like this and that, the paper and all that stuff, like, oh, it's a bird, it's a plant, you know.
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Like um, so yeah, I kind of think of an older um Superman.
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So, but the new, I mean the new show was just fucking crazy.
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And oh, bro, so man of going back to Man of Steel, yeah, dude.
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So uh what's his name?
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Um uh damn, I don't know why I'm lost for uh the people today.
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The dad of Krypton, um Kevin Costner.
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No, oh Jorel, like Jorell?
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Yeah, Jorel.
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Yeah, uh Russell Crowe.
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Russell Crowe, yeah.
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It's Russell Crowe, dog, his dad in Krypton, and then Kevin Costner's dad in the badass.
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That was fucking home runs and shit.
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It was like awesome, bro.
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That movie was perfectly cast, and I think there you go, yeah.
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Like, I love Christopher Reeb.
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Like, I grew up with him, even Superman three and four, which aren't that good.
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Like, they do not hold up.
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Watch them again, they were not good.
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But I watched them all like uh Richard Pryor and he's in the part three.
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That honestly, that one is like okay, but part four with nuclear man, that is trash, dog.
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Absolute garbage.
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No, I'm not too into like that.
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Yeah, but uh yeah, Christopher Reeb, obviously, I grew up with him.
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Great Superman, but Henry Cavill is the best Superman ever.
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But the difference between Henry Cavill's Superman and all the other Supermen you see is that's his first day on the job, Man of Steel.
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He's literally not even Superman, that's why it's called Man of Steel.
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He's not Superman.
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He be like he starts to become Superman in that movie, but he's not Superman, even they call him Superman.
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You know what was he's literally Superman one day, and he has to fight these fucking Kryptonian people.
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Yeah, no training whatsoever.
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Hmm.
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You know what was funny, man, about uh what you're just saying right there is it was so weird when the first Superman came out.
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What was that fool's name?
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What the first uh the first one, the um the black and white one?
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No, no, no.
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I'm sorry.
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The first modern Superman, which was in like 2000 something.
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Oh, or Brandon Ralph, like that Must Superman Returns?
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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Why was it that Superman Returns?
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That was our first introduction to him in the modern era, yeah, because that movie is supposed to take place as if Superman 3 and 4 never existed.
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So they were going after Christopher Reeves.
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So that's why Brandon Ralph got cast because he looks like Christopher Reeves.
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Took me 20 years to 20 years to I'm like, returns from what?
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I was just like, what are we talking about?
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Why is it the intro to Superman right now?
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Like I didn't get that part.
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Yeah, that's why he's but even at that though, you would want him returning from Christopher Reeves's shit back in the what 80s?
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Yeah, so it's like so like Superman what about everybody who wasn't hip to that?
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Yeah, but that's kind of like me, you know, at that time.
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Yeah, like yeah, yeah.
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I mean, yeah, but that's what JJ, that's what they did.
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So they were like Superman one and two.
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Is that JJ Abrams?
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Yeah, pretty sure it's JJ.
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Is it JJ?
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Maybe.
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Pretty sure.
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Anyways.
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So one and two happen, then something happens here and Superman goes away.
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And then he comes back and Superman returns.
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So like five years or whatever, because he has that kid, right?
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So like in Superman, I think it's Superman 2.
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That's when he sleeps with Lois, right?
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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So then she gets pregnant, Superman disappears sometime.
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They don't tell you what really happens.
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He goes to like look for Krypton or remnants of Krypton, then he comes back, and now he has a kid.
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Like that kid and Superman Returns is his kid.
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So it's like his power, you know.
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And maybe like throws the piano or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So like there's like a five-year gap between Superman 2 and Superman Returns.
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Or six-year gap, however old that kid is.
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Um, top five superheroes of all time.
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Go.
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Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Wonder Wonder Woman.
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Whoa, back up, back up.
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Wonder Woman over No, no, you're in order?
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Uh yeah.
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I'm just giving you five.
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Oh, just five.
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Well, yeah, just go five in general.
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Yeah, I'm saying the Trinity for sure.
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Like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman.
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You don't just throw her in, bro.
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You she's just not like I'm just telling you.
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Uh Jordan, Pippen, and Rodney.
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Spider-Man, obviously, he's obviously there.
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I know Spider-Man, bro.
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Yeah, Spider-Man, obviously there.
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And then number five.
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Like, I mean, I would I I'd pick Spawn because he's a lot, like, the longest.
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Yeah, these are yours personally.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I would pick Spawn because he's like the longest, also because he's like the longest independent comic book ever.
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Like broke the record, whatever.
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So he's still relevant.
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But a lot of people are probably gonna say Wolverine instead.
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Oh, yeah.
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I think Wolverine would be in my top five for sure.
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I think mine would have to be uh Batman, Spider-Man, um Wolverine.
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Who else?
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Go for it.
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Spider Man Wolverine.
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Hulk should be pretty close.
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Hulk's up there.
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Yeah.
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Xavier's uh I I love Iron Man.
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Oh shit, Iron Man.
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Yeah, hell yeah.
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But see, yeah, that's the thing.
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But that's but I like Iron Man because of the movies.
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Because of now.
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Because he was like a C-less character before that movie came out.
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Definitely.
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Um if I'm not mistaken, in the uh comic, he was like an alcoholic, right?
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Or something like that?
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Yeah, he was like, and then and in the first in the first movie, he kind of is.
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They just they don't really technically allude to it.
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They don't really he's not there getting fucked up, but in the comics, he was getting fucked up.
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That's weird, man.
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Yeah, actually, it was uh the third one was supposed to be that he was he got out on a bender and all that stuff and he was gonna be really struggling with it, but they changed it.
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It was like that he was like more uh like PTSD and stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was like, man.
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They should have done the alcohol version though, but then they didn't because kids.
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Sure.
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Kids can't handle shit nowadays, huh?
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Well, apparently not.
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I'm going with ghost specialists with demons and shit and boogeyman.
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These kids can't even handle someone can drinking.
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Okay, that's fine.
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Let's go back.
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Um