Another Pass at Black Widow - with Cly Forsyth

This time on Another Pass, Case and Sam are joined by Cly from Point in Progress to revisit Black Widow. They talk Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, the Red Room, dysfunctional found family, the ghost of the Winter Soldier, the problem with Taskmaster, and how the movie could have done more to reframe Natasha's sacrifice in Endgame.

Another Pass Full Episode Originally aired: July 24, 2026

Music by Vin Macri and Matt Brogan

Podcast Edited by Sophia Ricciardi

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⏱️ YouTube Chapters

00:30 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:58 Initial Thoughts on Black Widow 03:27 Taskmaster 10:58 The Red Room Problem 12:31 Natasha's Ledger 14:36 Why This Movie Came Too Late 17:25 Yelena and Natasha 21:45 The Midquel Problem 29:25 The Widow Ending 37:09 The Widows as Soldiers 42:19 Red Guardian 47:23 Melina 51:17 The Winter Soldier's Absence 01:01:50 Marvel's Four-Quadrant Problem 01:06:24 The Accents 01:09:34 Fun and Games Promo 01:10:36 Another Pass Begins 01:11:43 Cly's Another Pass 01:17:50 Yelena and the Widows 01:19:42 Replacing Taskmaster 01:21:20 Sam's Another Pass 01:28:56 Natasha as a Leader 01:30:36 Blip and Post-Credits Fixes 01:32:22 Melina, Trauma, and Structure 01:36:48 Final Thoughts 01:41:14 Cly's Plugs 01:45:21 Sam and Case's Plugs 01:47:12 Patreon Shout-Outs 01:48:58 Next Time: Highlander II 01:49:09 Credits