Vampires

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Hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of a really good podcast with Greg and Liz.
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And today's episode might be our sexiest ever.
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Oh wow.
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Yeah.
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I have spent so much time with vampires in the last five days.
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I felt like I was watching porn.
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I felt like I was getting caught watching Pornhub when my kids would start to walk down the stairs.
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Yeah, there's parts in like Interview with a Vampire where like, can you imagine being so sexy that like you're kissing someone and they don't even know that they're like passing away?
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They're like bloody.
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I want to get into this because we are talking about vampires today.
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And the thing that is so interesting about vampires is they run the spectrum.
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From like meaning what?
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From creepy and stuff?
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From disgusting monster to stunning, hottest man alive.
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It just an indescribable attraction.
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Not from me personally.
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Like, I'm not talking about myself.
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I'm talking in general.
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Brad Pitt in 1995, probably the hottest guy alive.
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Brad Pitt in Legends of the Fall.
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I had a poster.
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Him when he does Tristan.
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I even felt like he was hot.
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Well, I mean, that's not.
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You're not one to like skimp words when you find a man attractive.
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No.
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I was blown away by Tristan.
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I was like, this is when I my poster I had in college was him when he tips the hat and the water comes off of it right in the beginning.
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You know, in fact, what a move.
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What a what a move.
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But is Brad Pitt a good actor?
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I'm gonna say something here.
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I think Brad Pitt has picked movies so perfectly.
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I think he's I love Brad Pitt movies.
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But I don't know that he's like a great actor as much as he picks roles that really suit his specific acting type.
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I mean, and he does have some diverse traits here.
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But watching this, well, yeah, and like seven was good.
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But I don't know.
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I guess yeah, he has done a lot.
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I don't know.
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Sometimes I'm like, is this good acting or is this this guy?
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The guy's incredible.
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But we're we're now this isn't a Brad Pitt podcast.
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No, this isn't a Brad Pitt podcast, but we will get into that.
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We are talking about vampires.
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Let me ask you this.
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Going into this, what were your feelings about vampires?
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And did they change at all in this intense course study that we just did?
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Well, no, and I'm gonna tell you why.
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Because my first Halloween costume was a vampire.
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I had a little wig I put on, and it's like it's been popular.
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I've always been into vampires.
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So I've listened to a few episodes of our old Halloween episodes, which are great, by the way.
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If you haven't listened to them, or even if you have, like I didn't remember us talking about any of it, but you talk about how you were Dracula and you made a joke about how it set the tone because of the power alleys.
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Wait, because of the what?
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Because the wig has the power alleys, the like balding the power alleys.
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Yeah, you know what?
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Yeah, that was my introduction to the Widow's Peak, and I was like, I don't love this.
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I have a big Widow's Peak.
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Somebody made fun of it once in high school, and to this day, I would never have even noticed before or after.
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If the vampire is known for the Widow's Peak, and the vampire is intrinsically sexy, Widow Peak sexy?
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Well, I don't, I mean, there's a whole group out there for the Bald Brotherhood, so you know.
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Oh, um, trust me.
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Like, I we're in now.
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We're we're doing okay now.
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No, but like I I've always been so interested in in vampires.
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In fact, like you will talk about we have like great little vampire legends here in Rhode Island, and I have a very interesting story when it comes to that.
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But like, even the the Mercy Brown story, were you gonna talk about that a little bit?
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Yeah.
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So that story is is in Rhode Island, and it's such an interesting story that like Bram Stoker had clippings from the Province Journal in his notes for when he wrote Dracula.
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So that played a role.
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Yeah, which doesn't really make sense because it really wasn't anything.
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Well, they dug her up, she had blood around her mouth, that kind of thing.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, but I mean it's it's so interesting because I always thought there was so much more to it.
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And then when I actually looked into it, I was like, oh, so like people just didn't understand the way decomposition works, is pretty much the gist of it.
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Right, but that's how these like so something happens that they don't understand, it's inexplicable to them.
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And so they have to create this like story to so they can go to bed at night and explain it and like have some power and some control, like how do we fight this thing, you know?
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Yeah, so I I just think it's awesome.
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Well, we'll get to we'll cross that bridge when you come to it.
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But yes, I love Dracula.
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I've always loved the Dracula, the novel, because I mean think about it like this.
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Have you ever read Dracula?
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No.
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Well, it the way it's set up, it's like just notes and letters and like chip logs.
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So it's like it's found footage.
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Yeah, it's like the original found footage, you know, in a sense.
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So it's like Blair Witch before Blair Witch.
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It's yeah, it's pretty cool, but it's not found footage.
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He just made it up, right?
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Yeah.
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It's like Blair Witch.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But could have fooled me.
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Yeah, definitely fooled me.
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What do you think of when you think of a vampire?
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Like you're it seems like you're a Dracula vampire.
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Because when I say it spans a lot of things, there are so many different things that go into it.
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I kept, I was making a list of like all the characteristics and rules and ways to die and everything, and it just kept going and going and going.
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And I'm like adding stuff in that was like, this doesn't even make sense.
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You get into True Blood.
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I watched the first episode of True Blood, which we're not actually gonna talk about because we didn't discuss it, but great series, though.
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It's a great series, but it's it's funny because it's like integrating vampire.
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It it really does, at least to begin with.
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I don't, I think I fell off after like season three or so.
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Integrating vampires are like treating them as minorities and like a minority group, and that's what the whole premise of it is is that they found this true blood and it allows them to just live amongst regular people, but they're still fucking weird, yeah.
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And it's yeah, and they still live forever and they can like rip your head off and stuff.
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Yeah, but it's like sexy in true well, back to the sexy, but that's part of when they have sex, they like bite each other if you're like dating a vampire.
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Yeah, so what do you think that's about?
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Well, I mean, if you notice in a lot of these movies, you're like, are you having sex or are you biting someone?
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Because these women, especially in interview with the vampire, were like completely turned on.
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It's like, what is happening right now?
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No, no, not only are they listen, they're like finished.
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From like getting bit.
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And I'm like, how do you do that?
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And it's not until they look down and see their dresses covered in blood that they're like, wait a minute.
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They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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This has gone way too far.
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What's that thing on your thumb?
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I I was caught up in the moment.
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I need a minute.
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And then in the all right, I this Nastaferatu, is that how you pronounce it?
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Nosferatu, but Nosferatu.
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I kept calling it modis Yahoo, and like I could not like wrap my Nasty as I was like writing my notes.
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He was like basically having sex with her in the movie.
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That was a lot.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
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It's a lot.
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Okay, so some of the characteristics, we're gonna talk about the characteristics, then we're gonna do a little history on the vamps and just kind of how they got to where they are now in society.
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Characteristics exists on blood, one way or the other.
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There's so many different ways that they do it.
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Like in some of them, like they have animal blood, some of them they get the people, but like you can bite somebody, but you don't kill them.
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Yeah, that's like like creating a new one is like a whole process, too.
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When you were doing a little bit of research on vampires, like did you find anything that you or like these characters?
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Because there's like the obvious ones crucifix, bat, garlic, bat.
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Yeah, allergic to daylight, bites the wings, sleeps in a coffin, or hangs from the ceiling in the case of Lost Boys, like a bat, no reflections, the long nails.
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Hated every second of that.
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Seeing Brad Pitt with a French manicure was haunting for me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But was there anything that stuck out as like, oh, that's different?
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Well, some of them fly, but not all of them.
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Yeah.
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And like so, they do it in a way, like the Lost Boys.
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I thought was interesting that they very obviously fly because they're coming in at like a drone angle, but they never show them flying.
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And I think that was probably a good choice because they didn't have the budget.
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And they didn't want to like look weird.
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And it would have.
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There's no way you're making it in what was it, like 85, 86, something like that.
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Great, great choice.
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It's like the the Jaws thing.
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Like you don't want to see too much.
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Yeah, well, yeah, it's a lot scary.
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It wasn't really that scary.
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Garlic.
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That I never understood.
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I read something that said it was basically because it's like pungent.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, obviously the one that stands out is that the Cullen family glitters in daylight instead of having their face burned off.
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So in the movie, have you seen Twilight?
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Oh, yeah.
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When my favorite thing is the when he's like, This is the skin of a killer, Bella.
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It's like doesn't look like it.
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The skin of a unicorn.
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You look like you're going to the Eras Store, my dude.
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Yeah, I know.
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I know.
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But yeah, no, there wasn't anything that was like, you know, obviously each one has their own little twist.
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And that's what's kind of fun about it.
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It's like these three movies that we watched Interview with a vampire was elegant vampire.
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Then you had Lost Boys, which was like punk rock vampire that likes to terrorize a carnival for some reason.
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Well, it's the strip, I guess.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The Jersey Shore, whatever it is.
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And then not Nosferatu.
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I hated him.
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I hated that.
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Is it a monster?
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Is disgusting.
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Like, and then you have the glittery Twilight Vampires, and then you have the sexy teen drama vampire diaries.
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And then you have the true blood was weird.
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Bill, the main guy, can't believe he was like the hot guy.
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Although Skarsguard.
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Eric the Sheriff was Skarsgard was the hot guy always.
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Anytime you can put a Skarsgard in a movie.
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Although Skarsgard, Bill was Nosferatu.
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Do you know like of the original like Nosferatu?
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Like the early Yes, I actually watched a little bit of it.
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Spooky.
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It was I couldn't get through that much.
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The silent, I it was hard for me.
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I I kind of like skipped through it.
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Like I fast forwarded a little bit, but there were things about it.
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There is an element of scariness with the silence.
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Yeah, so I tried to do like once upon a time, I did like the original Frankenstein when Halloween and the original Dracula.
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Like all well, not when I say original, I mean like the 30s.
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You know what I mean?
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Like the ones that are supposed to be like the universal monsters.
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Yeah.
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I'll tell you what, people used to get really scared by those movies.
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They're they're not scary.
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No, it's kind of like even like scary movies, you know, you'll get like scream and stuff like that.
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And I was terrified of that.
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And like, that's not really that scary.
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But it wasn't really very scary.
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I mean, what do you expect from these things?
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Like, they had so little to work with.
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They couldn't even use real sound.
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The original two, they colorized it, the one that I watched, and it looked like it was like tie-dye.
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Yeah, but you know what's you know what?
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I'm just as you're just mentioning that or talking about that.
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I'm like, well, is that that's probably not a great thing that like that used to scare the shit out of people, like the original Frankassine, the original Nosferatu, whatever.
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And now it's like we they have to do things that are like maybe not even okay for our brains to sort of recognize.
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Like they have to go so over the top with scary to like get a rise out of us.
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It's like one of the scariest things is things that aren't scary at all.
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I listened to our horror movies episode that we did, and we were talking about the children of the corn in one of them, and like that's terrifying, cornfield that like you don't know what's coming around.
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You know, maybe some weird kid.
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Yeah.
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That like we'll kill you because I don't know.
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Yeah, Amish, but they're not Amish in the movie.
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But the band of Amish children or whatever they were.
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Ezekiel, maybe.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we've talked about this a million times.
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That the scariest thing is just somebody standing there, like in smile when they were out in the parking lot smiling at you, or Michael Myers just standing there and like walking slowly.
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Him walking slowly is scarier than anything else you could do.
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Like, dude, you know how like in The Strangers, there's like they have like a bag on their head kind of thing?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So I was in a I don't know if this was like someone playing a trick or anything, but I was in a car with someone, a a woman.
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And uh should I say her name?
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Sure.
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She was a friend.
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I'll just bust her.
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So I was in the car with this with this girl, Katie McNally.
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And we were just like, she would just driving back, but so we're just sitting there, like hanging out, like maybe smoking a cigarette or something like that.
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And in front of the car, someone stopped and they were had a like a bag on their head, like a sack, like a potato set, and they just stopped and they stood there for like four seconds and then they walked away.
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Was this on Halloween or around Halloween?
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I think it was around Halloween.
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Yeah, so they're basically coming for a party and like taking advantage of it.
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Still weird though.
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I know, but like you got to stay in character for that.
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It was like when my friends and I dressed up as the Celtics and we took a basketball to the bar and we were like doing scrimmages in the middle of the bar.
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If you're gonna commit, you need to commit, you know.
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Yeah, this guy committed, but you know, it's easy to commit when you're with a group, but this dude was alone to the bit.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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And like that's such a that's a thing though, that if you were in a horror movie, we would have been like, why didn't you just run him over immediately?
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At what point do you just run him over?
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That's the thing.
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Do do I, you know, do I murder this person on the off chance that they're not in a Halloween costume?
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And then what?
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I'm in trouble.
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Yeah, and like what if you had a beer before?
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Then you could get arrested.
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Which I did, you know, which I did.
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So the guy was like, I was not wearing a bag.
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Yeah, because when you were he's like, this is my face.
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All right, so turning vampire, I thought was interesting.
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The ways that you could turn vampire are so different in each of them.
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Well, you feed on somebody, and then you have to make them drink from you after you fed on them, though.
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But then in The Lost Boys, you just drank out of a cup his blood.
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Yeah, but don't you think that's their blood?
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But then you had to kill someone to officially become a vampire.
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And stay alive, right?
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Essentially.
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Yeah.
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That's why Michael and the girl from the girl from Twister, Jamie Gunn.
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No, she's from Oh yes, she's the like stick in the mud.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I didn't recognize.
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I was like, Helen Hunt's not in frigate.
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Lost boys.
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Lost boys.
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They were like half vampires because they hadn't killed anyone yet, so they didn't go all the way.
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She was a looker in that one, huh?
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How about this?
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Not to get into Lost Boys.
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I mean, but geez, if we say anything, the saxophone in the beginning.
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Okay.
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So Crosby, as we've discussed, is playing saxophone right now.
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And I said, You need to see this.
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And I said, This would actually be a hilarious Halloween costume for you.
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The chain.
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He just needs a baby oil, baby oil, a pair of Dylan's leggings, the chain.
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And just really get into that sax.
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And just I don't think Crosby's definitely not at the level that that guy was, that's for sure.
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And he was like stomping it out.
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I was like, he was into it, and then she was so into it too.
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She was really getting down.
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I was like, yeah.
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All right.
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This guy would make a good vampire.
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Wait.
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Okay.
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No, we can't, we can't keep talking about it.
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I have to because I have a few things to say.
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But what is it about that makes them such sexual beings?
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Do you think it's the hump thing?
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I think it's the I think it's the idea.
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I I think it's like sort of morphed over time where it's like the seven deadly sins thing.
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It's like it feels good to like the sexiness and all these things.
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And it's just like be careful of that emotion or that drive or that lust because like the path to hell feels like heaven, right?
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And that's the kind of idea that they're trying to like get across.
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Like just don't get into.
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I think it's a protective thing or like a restrictive thing.
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You tell people stories so that they don't do the it's almost like the urban legends that just was like a really good one and just developed.
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I think they have like Eastern European like strivoika.
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There's all kinds of like vampire lore.
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Even the Chinese have vampires from like thousands of years ago.
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It's very cool, it's a very like the undead, right?
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Yeah.
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I just think it's it's it's just so interesting.
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I think my answer was a little bit more basic.
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The sucking.
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Yeah.
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On on the neck, you know, the neck, the blood, the neck.
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I mean, like, there's a reason why it looked like porn because so much of it looks like you would be making out with somebody's neck, essentially.
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Yeah.
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So I was also thinking like vampires, what's evil about them that they're constantly consuming.
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Yeah.
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I think it's also interesting.
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The only way that they can survive is by killing other people.
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You know, so there's just an inherent kind of moral quandary.
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And I think that that comes up a lot more in like the 90s, 2000s, whatever, when it starts to be like, what if being a vampire isn't awesome?
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What if they don't love it?
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What if they, you know, they're the Cullins and they only want to eat animals?
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You have to be evil to love it.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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I think that's and I think that's why the good guy, the you know, vampire that you want to be on the same side with Edward Collins, the whatever, they all choose to like be vegetarians.
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So you like I don't know if I have the willpower.
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Yeah, I couldn't.
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I would I would just be the worst.
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I'd probably be like, fuck, I guess I'm gonna eat this person.
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If I was young, I'd be Kirsten Dunst.
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It'd be a spoiled brat.
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Oh man, that's actually a sad story too.
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Well, what about what about that seven deadly sins?
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I think the the vampire represents like all the seven deadly sins.
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Lust for sure.
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Yep, gluttony.
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I don't know that I know all the seven deadly wrath, right?
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So gluttony for sure, wrath, envy in a lot of ways, especially, you know, because maybe they they want to die, maybe in some, but like I think more importantly than all, like the sin of pride, because it's like they put their needs above others, their lives.
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But you have to you have to because you can't even really kill yourself.
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Well, I guess you can, but you just stay up, even when they yeah, even when they would try to like wither away and like not eat Tom Cruise.
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He wouldn't he went through it.
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And he was eating like crickets and like salamanders, and he was just like emaciated on a chair, but he wasn't dead.
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I don't want I would never want to do that.
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Anne Rice is like gotta be the best when it comes to the vampires.
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So she's who is she?
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What has she done?
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She did an interview with the vampire.
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So she wrote like so she's got the whole I've read like a few of those, uh one being The Vampire Lestat, which is Interview with the Vampire is one of them.
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That's more of Louis's story.
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The vampire stat's also the good one.
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And then there's the one I think Vampire Lestat is the one with like where he's like in a band.
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I think it's the one with Ariya, Queen of the Damned.
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Queen of the Damned.
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Yeah.
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Cruz isn't in that, right?
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No, but you know what's great about the books?
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They kind of like they follow each other where it's like, well, this was actually how Lestat was made now.
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So you got the Louis story.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, so which is like really cool.
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And I love an orange in the story.
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We love an orange in the story.
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That analysis gives you an origin to every single one of them.
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It's great.
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Yeah, love that.
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All right, so how about now we'll do a brief history of the vamps?
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I just have very quick kind of going through so ancient Mesopotamia stories describe demons and spirits that preyed on humans, sometimes drinking blood or consuming life force around the 30th century BCE.
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Absolutely no idea what that is.
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Because that's not even BC, is it?
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Well, yeah, it is B.
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This was before common era.
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There's just a new way they're saying BC.
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So it's like sort of like more secular.
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How do you know this shit?
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Ancient Greece, the Lamia, I'm not sure if that's how it's pronounced.
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Lamia was a famous female monster who preyed on children and sometimes seduced men before killing them.
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There was actually stories of Lilith, who I know you love, tying her to vampires, but it was very not like it didn't, it kind of seemed like a stretch, so I didn't really, I think, too.
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It feels like Lilith is just the scapegoat for all women being terrible, kind of.
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Yeah.
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E2?
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Yeah.
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Ancient Rome stories of striges, stryges, I'm not sure.
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Sorry.
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I didn't actually look up how to pronounce any of these things.
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Night flying creatures that attacked children and drank their blood were popular.
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Then the earliest specific mentions of undead threats were in the 10th to 11th century Bulgarian and Slavic folklore, where restless souls and corpses rose to terrorize villages and cause disease.
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And in the 1720s, the Austrian military investigated exhumed bodies showing signs of undead activity in places like Serbia.
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So this is where I want to talk about the ignorance of germs theory.
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It's not really a theory, it's pretty much like exactly what happened.
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People just like didn't understand decomposition, infectious disease, anemia, rabies, like any of these things.
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So all these supernatural things that were happening to the bodies, like the heart palpitations after they die, or whatever it is, where they would cough up blood after they were dead, people just really wanted to hang on to that as like it's gotta be something else.
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These people are still here.
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Or hair or fingernails, how they still grow even after you're dead.
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I think that this kind of shows and everything I kept reading about kept coming back to this idea that like vampire panics usually coincide with some kind of mysterious illness.
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Yeah, because you can't, there has to be some kind of explanation.
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We need explanations as humans.
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We need to be able to because if you create a monster like a vampire, yeah, then you can create ways to destroy it, and then you have sort of like agency, you feel like you're in control again.
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Yeah.
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So it's instead of just being like this, there's this monster right out of control, it's like, oh, here's this thing that we can actually take action against if we have to.
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And then they create all these like sort of cooling garlic in the window.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's cool.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like, all right, at least I got garlic in the window, so we should be good.
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Yeah.
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And I can go to sleep at night, right?
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We we good, we good.
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And this kind of was where we're gonna talk about the 19th century New England vampire panic.
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I know a favorite of yours.
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Favorite, yeah.
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I mean, it is fascinating.
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If there's one thing people from Rhode Island love, it's a story about Rhode Island or somebody from Rhode Island.
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Like, if there's somebody on Survivor that's from Rhode Island, we are gonna know about it.
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You we will literally watch a movie just because films in Cranston.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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Like a hundred percent.
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I watched the real housewives.
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I have no business.
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I have no interest in that.
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I watched the entire season.
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It was fantastic.
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Because it was in Rhode Island.
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It was pretty good.
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It was good.
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That was my first Housewives, too, actually.
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I watch a lot of Bravo, but I don't watch the Housewives.
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I always say I watch the working class Bravo shows.
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So it's like the poor people, the restaurant workers, the people that have a share in house.
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Like I did watch that a couple times.
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These are those are my people.
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Only because there's a girl from Rhode Island in it.
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Remember that?
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Oh yeah.
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She lived on the street for me.
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So the New England vampire panic, lots of ties to Rhode Island.
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So we are going to get into it because it's also, you know, it's very this isn't just Rhode Island tie.
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Like we would maybe even be talking about this no matter where we were.
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Good point.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I because it's how important it is to the vampire.
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Bram Stoker took newspaper clippings from this area, Exeter, Rhode Island, in the Providence Journal, which I which is crazy to me that Bram Stoker was reading the Providence Journal.
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That's kind of cool.
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Or do you think, or or more likely, he had some people around him that knew he was into the vampire stuff.
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I don't know that Bran Stoker was like had like a subscription to the Providence.
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Because it was like because this vampire craze is like late 1800s.
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It's like people do know about like they shouldn't have been doing this.
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I would my guess, and this is completely made up, is that he had like a maybe a cousin that lived in the US that lived because this was on national, this was national news.
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So it wasn't just in New England, but but it was when it was national news, they were like, look at these fucking psychos in around.
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That's kind of national news it is.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I mean they're like, We just did Salem, like let's take it easy.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, yeah, but Salem was at least 200 years before this.
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I know, I know, but still, it probably felt recent.
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And it went on for a while, right?
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Didn't it?
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This went on for a little bit.
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This poor guy who's you know, the Brown family.
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You're gonna talk about that, right?
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Yes.
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All right, let's just let's just let's talk about it.
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Just hit it, yeah.
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All right, so in the 18th and 19th century, tuberculosis or consumption, as it was called, was sweeping through New England because it caused symptoms such as weight loss, coughing up blood, pale skin, which kind of resembled the life being drained out of you.
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And it was so easily transmissible between family members, people that lived together, obviously, people started to believe that the first person who contracted it was the vampire that would return to feed on their relatives.
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So, in an attempt to prevent this, the bodies of those who died were exhumed and examined.
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If the body seemed unusually fresh or had organs that contained liquid blood, they were determined to be a vampire, and the families would do anything from turning the body over in its grave, which that's your big move.
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You exhume the fucking body and you're gonna turn it over.
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Just flip everyone.
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Like, oh, he's gonna be confused.
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He's gonna dig down further into the earth.
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Or they would take it out, they would burn it, they would rip the organs out, they would actually decapitate some of them.
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And then the affected family members would inhale the smoke from the burned organs or consume the ashes in a further attempt to cure the consumption, which is crazy because I feel like that would be the last thing you'd want to do.
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Let me drink some old dead consumption, and maybe that's really if you had any idea about vampires, which I'm assuming that they didn't, but like you have to drink their blood, so like inhaling their organ smoke is probably not a great move if you're trying to get rid of them.
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Yeah, no, that's not good.
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Not the move.
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So this brings us to Mercy Brown.
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This is near and dear to our hearts, no pun intended.
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Yeah.
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In the late 1800s, George and Mary Brown's family suffered quite a loss when several of their family members died of tuberculosis.
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I actually was confused because I didn't realize that the Mary Eliza was the mom.
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There's a lot of Marys, you know.
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So Mary Eliza was the first one to get taken down by the TB.
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That was in 1883, followed by her eldest daughter, Mary Olive, in 1884, and then daughter Mercy in 1891.
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Anytime there was multiple deaths in one family, they blamed it on undead activity.
00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:48.400
Yeah.
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:54.319
So George persuaded to give permission to exhibition several of their bodies on March 17th, 1892.
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:54.880
Happy St.
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.160
Patrick's Day.
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:58.720
Yeah, he's got a little green hat on.
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:05.680
Their son Edwin, basically, Edwin had been sick and then he went out to like California.
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.240
This was during the gold finish, right?
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:14.960
So he went out and he got better, and which is probably because he was in a better environment.
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:17.839
He wasn't breathing in, you know, vampire smoke.
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:18.960
And that's right.
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:23.519
So then after all this happened, he came home as Mercy died.
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.640
And like as soon as he came home, he got sick again and he was rail, and they were like, What the fuck is going on?
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:36.079
So they exhumed Mercy, Mary Eliza and Mary Olive, so they could get the stuff to save Edwin.
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.640
As he was, I think it was five daughters and one son.
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:39.599
So he was the only son.
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:42.640
So you know they were like they were hanging their hat on that one.
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:43.039
Yeah.
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:48.400
Mary Eliza and Mary Olive both showed signs of full decomposition, so they were cleared.
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.480
Mercy, this was a little bit murky.
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:57.200
Like they said, she had a normal amount of decomposition, but Mercy had only been dead for like six months when this happened.
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.119
And the other ones, Mary Eliza was 1883.
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:02.640
This was nine years before.
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.599
Yeah, and it was like a really cold winter, so they think that there's could have been some preservation, obviously.
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:08.160
Yep.
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:16.880
So she had like a little bit of blood in her heart, and her yeah, her decomposition was there, but it just wasn't as much as they thought that it should have been.
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:27.359
So they burned her heart and her liver, and the ashes were mixed with water to create a tonic, which was given Edwin in an effort to resolve his illness, but he died two months later, so it didn't work.
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.000
Shocker.
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.279
And then they re-buried Mercy's body.
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:44.720
In the end, George Brown was one of the very few to never contract tuberculosis, living until 1922, just long enough to see bacteriologists discover the BCG vaccine, which is used to reduce the risk of severe tuberculosis.
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.799
He's like, He's like, how about that, huh?
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.559
He's like, Yeah, too little, too late.
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:55.839
What's interesting about that story though is like then the ghost story sort of morphed into not so much a mercy scary story.
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:08.079
It was like when I was young and in high school, well, the first time I went there, I was my sister had this boyfriend had like a snake, and we're sitting in this room, and he was like in Exeter, and he's like, I hold my snake, and I was like, I think I'm good, right?
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.799
And then he's like, Or we we can go look at the grave of Mercy, but and then like oh wait, you really have a snake.
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:15.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.119
So he was near he lived in Exeter.
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.279
A man with a snake that lives in Exeter.
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.079
You didn't say, like, listen, this is not Vinny Matram.
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.599
I won't I won't protect him.
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.359
It was really weird, you know?
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.359
Like, this is not a safe space for you.
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:30.240
This is not.
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:31.359
I was like, we gotta get out of here.
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:31.920
Let's go see the ghost.
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.240
He brought the snake, by the way, like on his arm.
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.160
Oh, so is he one of those guys that like brings his snake everywhere and then is like, oh, why are you guys looking at me?
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.640
Yeah, it was exactly and his name, this name of the snake was like Dan Marino or something like that.
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:45.920
It was a weird quarterback.
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.119
So we're we're walking out there.
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.359
But what's cool about this story is like now you can picture it and you can he's telling the story.
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:58.960
He's like, he's like, you know, the real ghost story is that Edward walks around with a candlelight to make sure nobody else digs up any of his family members.
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:00.640
And I was like, Oh, that's actually kind of cool.
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.960
And then so we look for see the grave and everything like that.
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:03.279
Awesome.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.839
Actually, at this time, for there was a little period of time where it was missing.
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.119
It was missing, and then it came back.
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:07.759
That's true too.
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.000
The grave, yes, stone, yes.
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.559
Is this just in a regular graveyard?
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.920
Yeah, well, yeah, it's like a it's like in a yeah, it's like a small graveyard.
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:17.279
It's like at a church, it's really cool.
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.160
You can still go see it.
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:18.640
I'd rather not.
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.839
But then later on in life, there's a the real crazy story is that I was there and then there's like these kids.
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.359
I'm not even giving any names because like this is like a real crazy, crazy story.
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.440
They're doing the thing where they're like peeing and they're like not being respectful to the area, right?
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:32.720
Yeah, and saying all these things.
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:33.599
Was it John Eric?
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:34.640
No, no, no, no.
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:35.359
Not a guy.
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:36.880
Me and John would have been very respectful.
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.279
But it was this was like just straight up high school friends.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:40.000
Okay, right?
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:40.240
Yeah.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.680
So they were doing their own thing.
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:51.279
Well, what happened was as I know the story, they were doing all this stuff, and then the next day, one of the kids that was doing all this stuff got in a car accident in his ice cream truck and died.
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.440
In his ice cream truck?
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:54.079
Yes.
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:55.920
So, yes, this is true story.
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.039
He was driving an ice cream truck and somebody hit him.
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.799
Well, yeah, because you probably don't buckle in.
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:01.680
Yeah, no, exactly.
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:02.720
It's a very dangerous vehicle.
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.319
So we're so we're going and like rest in peace.
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:07.519
Sorry for the disrespect.
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:14.319
We have this like, so I'm telling the story in my car, and I'm I'm telling the story to like Mike Burke and Liz.
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:20.160
And as soon as I say the name, Mercy Brown, the doors in the if the in the car open up and the light turns on.
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:21.279
Oh my god.
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:22.799
Yes, it's a true story.
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:23.279
I don't know.
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:24.079
No, I don't know.
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:31.839
Obviously, now I look back as an adult, I'm like, was maybe did maybe Mike Burke like freak out from the story and like try to open the door, and then we we s we subconsciously.
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:32.720
That's exactly what happened.
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:34.240
Ours and the lights came on.
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:39.519
But but it was so it felt so real, or maybe it was so real, that like none of us get in the car for a while.
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.160
In fact, we eventually get back in the car, but like you know, Liz, she was like, she was like refusing to get in the car.
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.039
I was like, oh my god, like at this point, you know.
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.799
It feels like you've had a lot of supernatural things happen to you.
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.759
I'm thinking of the ship that we talked about in the Topkin episode.
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:55.200
Okay, there's two options here.
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.839
Maybe you're a little sensitive to I hope not winds of change or something.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.799
Or do you think that maybe you're like targeted?
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.359
Do you think you have a spirit around you that just likes to fuck with you, maybe?
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:07.920
No.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.559
I don't know.
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.279
You said that you used to do all the like bloody Mary shit.
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.559
Yeah, but here's the thing it's always been good stuff for me.
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:20.079
Yeah, I mean, I guess like the doors unlocking or whatever isn't like traumatizing, you know?
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:20.799
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.440
I took that as like, hey, that's enough of that story.
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:24.240
Yeah.
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:25.839
No, thank you.
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:27.440
We're not doing that.
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.960
Yeah, I don't I would never go to Mercy Bron's grave, especially at night.
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.039
Especially with a man with a snake.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.920
That's a good point.
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:36.720
That's a good point.
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:37.440
You know what I mean?
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.920
You're you're like playing with fire over there.
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:40.880
Well, not anymore.
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.599
No, no, you just said you couldn't even like find the time to go out and have a beer with one of your friends.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:46.240
So yeah.
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.960
Although I can see you taking your crew.
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.960
I mean, we would we would go do something like we've been to like cemeteries.
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.039
My kids would never, oh my god.
00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:06.880
Well, actually, when we lived in situ, we rented a house for a couple months before we moved into the house we're in now, and it was right in downtown Situate, and they have a graveyard there, and we would walk back and forth constantly, checking out the names.
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:08.079
Yeah, it's fun.
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.519
You'd be respectful about it, and you're all we have a historic cemetery in our backyard.
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:12.319
Oh my god.
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.279
Well, that's dangerous.
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:14.559
Guess what number it is?
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:14.960
What?
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:15.839
69.
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.079
I was gonna say that, but I was like, oh yeah.
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.759
All right, so let's talk about how we get to the modern vampire.
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:32.640
So in 1819, John Polidori wrote The Vampire with a Y featuring Lord Ruthvin, who was an aristocratic vampire.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:39.920
This was big because this was the first time the vampire wasn't like a disgusting corpse, but a handsome, wealthy, sophisticated aristocrat.
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:53.359
It was kind of the blueprint for Dracula, which was a novel written by Bram Stoker in 1897, and that really like moved him into the pop culture vampire as we kind of know it today.
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:54.640
It does change a little bit more.
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:04.240
Characteristics of Dracula, mysterious, seductive, immortal, able to transform into animals, associated blood with sexuality, and vulnerable to specific rules.
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.200
So a lot of the stuff, the garlic, the notion.
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.880
Yeah, those weren't like folklore.
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:12.240
That was made up.
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:14.000
Well, I mean, they must have come from something though.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:25.680
What's interesting is like as we're talking about Dracula, who's also like Vlad the Impaler and Countess Bathory and Hungry, who used to bathe in the blood of virgins, there's like a compilation of all these like freaky stories from history all put into one.
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:34.240
And I and I love the concept of like if something is going to be really bad and scary and like destroy your life, it's probably not going to look like a monster.
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:35.119
Do you know what I mean?
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:35.759
Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:36.640
I think that's what happens.
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.599
Like, if someone's gonna destroy your family, it's gonna be like a Brad Pitt type.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.240
Yeah, well, hopefully, yeah, yeah.
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:44.480
It's gotta be worth it.
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:50.640
Yeah, like a lot of the stuff, like the garlic, it was something that people had done in other what's the word I'm looking for?
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.759
Like cultures, civilizations, yeah, cultures.
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.960
But this was the first time that they were attributed to Dracula or a vampire.
00:33:59.119 --> 00:33:59.599
Kind of.
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:06.240
I mean, I don't think all of them, but I think that they made up a lot of stuff, especially over the course of the 1900s.
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.719
I mean, think about even in some of the movies that we watch, shit was just made up.
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.280
Like in Lost Boys, how if you kill the head vampire, the rest of them die.
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.599
Yeah, that's in something else too, though.
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.440
It's in Game of Thrones with the White Walkers.
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:22.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.360
That's what I kept thinking about.
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.599
I was like, oh, and it's convenient, you know.
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:26.480
It's very convenient.
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.639
Like you just gotta get to the head, who happened to be Richard Gilmore.
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.400
The nerdiest dude ever.
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:33.760
Anyways, moving on.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.760
So then in 1922, we have the silent film Nosferatu.
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:47.679
It was an unauthorized adaptation of Dracula, which featured Count Orlock as a decidedly not sexy, but a rat-like and bald figure.
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.000
Would Count Orlock be in the Bald Brotherhood?
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:50.559
Would you accept that?
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:51.360
I don't think so.
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.039
You wouldn't accept rat-like?
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.920
Well, I mean, you're gonna deny him.
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:57.920
Yeah, I guess you have to, right?
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.159
Like imagine like Count Orlock and Charlie Brown just hanging out.
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.880
Yeah, Charlie Brown doesn't need to shave it.
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:05.760
He's got like four hairs.
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.679
Yeah, he's hanging on.
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.079
So do you not let people in if they're hanging on?
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:11.119
No, here's the thing.
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:11.840
I'm glad you asked.
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.880
That's an interesting question.
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:20.800
If someone Charlie Brown is bald, but uh not by choice, what we don't let in is the people who could grow full heads of hair and shave.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.400
But I don't feel like do many men do that.
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:25.440
You know what it is?
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.599
I feel like a lot of black men do it because their hair look real good.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.880
Well, they they sure do, but their hair is also a little bit harder to maintain.
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:47.440
But like white men who just have like a regular head of hair, you don't see a lot of like usually when you see a bald white man, he's got a horseshoe, you know, or he's got you can tell like he's he's missing a lot.
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.880
Some people don't look bad with the like the horseshoe.
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.320
Plus they're hanging so many of them are just hanging on by a thread to begin with.
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:54.880
You know what I mean?
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.239
Do you think people are still doing that?
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:01.039
It's like so it's so accepted now more than ever before that that you could just lop it off.
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.440
Well, yeah, I think that's what most people do.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:09.840
I don't think that a lot of guys are out here hanging on at the George Stanley at the age of 30.
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:10.320
Yeah.
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.960
You know, when you get older, like it doesn't really matter.
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:24.400
But when you're young, you know, it it's a shame too, because it's like gray hair, you can go down to like a 22-year-old with gray hair is still, you know, it doesn't really mean anything.
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:33.679
But anyways, so we return to a sexy Dracula with Bella Legosi's suave tuxedo wearing vamp in 1931.
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.800
I don't remember that one.
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:35.280
What was it?
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.840
Well, he like, you know, that's not you're not gonna remember that one.
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:38.800
That's an old one.
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:40.960
Bella Lugosi sounds familiar though.
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.000
He's very he I think he did a lot of the monster movies.
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:45.119
Is he a director?
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.679
He's no, he's uh he's an actor, but he's Hungarian.
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:48.639
Uh that's all I know.
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.800
So he was Dracula.
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:51.119
Yes.
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.760
1950s to 70s, vampires are both monstrous but sexual.
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:01.599
I'm not even meaning to like keep referring to them as sexy, but like this is what my research was.
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.199
They kept coming back to this.
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.920
And like I said, it felt like I was watching porn.
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.480
1970s to 90s, things take a turn.
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.599
They stop being a straight-up bad guy and become more complicated, sometimes sympathetic creatures.
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.599
They fall in love, they have emotions, they struggle with their immortality.
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.599
You know, this is Interview with a Vampire, Lost Boys, 1992 Dracula.
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:32.000
And I think the big factor in making them a little more complicated and a little bit harder to put into the bad guy category is they're all played by the hottest actors in Hollywood.
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.920
Yeah, and you know, the 1992 one, I think that's the pivotal one.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.320
I really know, and we wanted to watch it, but it wasn't free, and I don't do that anymore.
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.920
So just so good though.
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:42.400
I know.
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:43.440
I wanted to watch it.
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.840
I almost actually last night I got like close, and then I was like, no, I'm tired.
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.800
I'm not gonna finish this, and there's just no point.
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:51.760
But I thought about it.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.719
Because it has Van Helsing and everything, it's like really cool.
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.480
Is Keanu Reeves in it?
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.000
Keanu Reeves is in it.
00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:59.920
He's not vampire though, right?
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.519
No, Gary Oldman is dragon interesting, and he's incredible.
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.639
Gary Oldman.
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.400
No, I was thinking of Gary Sinise.
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.320
I was like Lieutenant Dan.
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:13.360
Oh, God.
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:19.360
And then we hit on the pop culture of vampires.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.400
We start with Buffy, which made them funny in the movie.
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:24.559
Christy Swanson.
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.960
Christy Swanson, Luke Perry was there.
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:32.159
That scene at the end when he's got the he's like, ooh, ooh, you know, it goes on for like 10 minutes.
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:33.119
Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.599
It was feeling that was like peak humor.
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.719
Like I remember laughing at that for days afterwards.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.039
And then Buffy the TV show is funny too.
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:46.079
And then you have Twilight, which makes them borderline delicate, some might say.
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:55.440
And then True Blood, where they're integrated into society, and finally the vampire diaries, where they get the full WB treatment, even though it was like long past the WB time.
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:56.960
But they're everything.
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.440
They're sexy, they're funny, they're romantic, they're evil, they're sympathetic, they're terrifying.
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.800
Like there's no one way to classify them.
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:15.679
And I think they kind of evolve with what we want to see, which is why more so than almost any other villain or monster or anything.
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.239
Like, there's no Frankenstein, like zombies had a moment, they're not really around.
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.880
Vampires can be so many different things that they were able to stand the test of time.
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:26.239
Yeah, remember Angel?
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:27.039
Yeah.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:33.119
And that was all like the 2000s into the 2010s were huge for vampires.
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:34.559
Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:35.760
And they'll be back.
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:36.880
I mean, they just keep coming back.
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:37.519
Are you kidding me?
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.440
Like Twilight, how big was Twilight?
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:40.880
How big was True Blood?
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:42.719
I mean, it was just huge.
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:51.360
I actually just because I was watching a bunch of vampire stuff too, and and in the mix of it, because I was just like searching vampires, and I watched a movie called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:52.000
I saw that.
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.599
I didn't watch it, but I I saw that.
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:54.320
I watched that.
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:55.039
That was pretty good.
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.920
I mean, you know, there were so many choices, and that was the thing.
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.639
Like, I had to be like, Greg, I can watch three.
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:01.280
I can.
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:08.400
I had to like make you like tone it down a little bit because you were talking, you were talking about a bunch of them, and I was like, no.
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:13.360
But yeah, I also think that zombies are kind of a sign of like the end of times.
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:20.400
When you see zombies, like shit is it's gonna end, like you're not coexisting with zombies, whereas vampires, they're always kind of around.
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.360
And there's like zombies are just like significantly less like complicated.
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:24.559
I think that's to your point earlier.
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.119
Like, that's just they're just kind of mindless consumption.
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:28.159
It's like whatever.
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:29.119
And they're always so slow.
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.000
They're one track mind, one track pony, and they're gross.
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:33.360
All that's full on them.
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.519
I do love Milo Mannheim from the zombies movie on Disney.
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.480
But all they did was like tint their skin green a little bit, so like they're not like gross.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:44.000
Even that went off the rails.
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:45.519
The first two were real good.
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.559
I then No, I love I love him.
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.760
He's gonna be the new Flynn Ryder in the new Rapunzel.
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.079
Yes.
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.199
Tangled, yeah.
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.360
All right, so let's talk about the movies.
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:55.840
Okay.
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:56.480
Okay, yeah.
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:57.840
Interview with a vampire.
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.880
We open up on Slater and Pitt, Christian Slater.
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.440
We've talked about how he's he's my arch nemesis, right?
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:04.719
You know, I can't stand that man.
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:11.039
We were at a bar at the same time once, and I got up to go to the bathroom and he took my place in line for karaoke, and I'll never forgive him.
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.000
It's a one-sided feud, but yeah, it's alive.
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.360
Every time I see him come on something, I'm like, Slater! Slater.
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:18.800
Fucking God.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.280
His role was actually supposed to go to River Phoenix.
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.280
Oh, but River Phoenix had died?
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.000
Yeah, he died.
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:24.800
That would have been interesting.
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:25.840
I liked River Phoenix.
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.679
I thought he was Phoenix was another stud.
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:32.000
He was he was a great I'd be interested to see what kind of roles he could have taken on.
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.199
It was at this point that I was watching it that I was like, oh, it's an interview with a vampire.
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:40.960
Like I never like put that together.
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:41.920
I don't think.
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.920
I mean, maybe I did at the time, but this time I was like, oh, okay, okay.
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.079
Can you imagine what the Pitt Cruise combo when people found out about this?
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:51.599
Antonio Banderas.
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.280
Antonio Banderas.
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:54.239
And he's young too.
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:55.039
He looked good.
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:56.079
They all look good.
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:56.559
Yeah.
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.400
I mean, Cruz looked real good.
00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:58.800
Yeah.
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.559
They pit looked incredible.
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.960
I could have done with without Cruz as a blonde.
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.000
Didn't do it for me.
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.000
No, but like, boy, he was good though.
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:06.559
You have to admit.
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:07.519
Yeah, he was good.
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.119
When Cruz is on, he's on.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.400
And when he's on, he's on.
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.280
Like, even that moment where like Louis's so mad at him and he's kind of like laughing at him as he's trying to kill him.
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.599
Yeah, I just like he's just really he's just really good.
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.400
That's a that is that a sleeper movie that is that underrated?
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.360
Do it not a lot of people.
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.119
I feel like you weren't super gung-ung ho about interview with the vampire.
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:26.639
Because I've seen it so many times.
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:27.119
Really?
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:27.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:28.239
I like it.
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.840
I've only seen it like once or twice.
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:30.880
Oh, it's good.
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:36.719
So Pitt loses his wife and his daughter, probably to consumption, I'm gonna guess, or something of the sort.
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.800
And Cruz targets him.
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.239
I wonder if it's because he hears that he has the death wish or because he just thinks he's hot, because it's very homoerotic.
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.679
It's like both, I think.
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:52.960
Because there's that scene he where he's watching him and like Pitt loses in cards and then he like opens his shirt just like to kill him and he's just kind of sitting there.
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:53.280
Yeah.
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:54.320
And he's like, oh god.
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.599
But also, I'm imagining if you're looking for a wingman to lure the ladies in.
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.760
I mean, you you don't want a two.
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.280
You need you need a ten.
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:04.400
Yeah.
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:05.440
That's the guy.
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.360
So Cruz turns Pitt.
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.679
I'm just I'm referring to them as Cruz and Pitt.
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:10.639
That's how it's gonna be.
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.840
He's like, You should be a vampire, you're never gonna have to feel pain.
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.960
But then, like, very obviously is in a lot of pain when he turns him.
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:23.119
They do make it seem like it is painful for the vampire, which was one of the only times that really did seem like it hurt too much.
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:31.599
They sleep in coffins in this one, which wasn't all of them, but I was thinking, like, I'm very claustrophobic, so like I could never, but like, I bet that's a great sleep.
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.559
Oh, dude, lights out a nice stone coffin with some velvet lining.
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.519
But the only thing is, like, I'd always be like, Can I lift the lid?
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:40.719
Did someone put some on us?
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.519
You know you'd need the the bell.
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:44.559
Yeah, absolutely.
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.800
I know because it's like, I bet it's nice and cool in there, probably no sound.
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:49.840
Zero sound.
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.000
I wonder if you can sleep on your stomach, you know.
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.039
The women are so turned on by every time they like kill them, basically.
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.760
And it's like not to victim blame, but it really does seem like you're kind of.
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:00.719
Into this.
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.639
Even do even the old lady, it's like in two seconds, they're like moaning all over the place.
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.199
And I'm like, that is that what's going on here?
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:09.599
Yeah.
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.199
That's some good that's some good necking.
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:11.760
Yeah.
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.519
Well, the old lady, it's kind of like, you know, I mean, she's probably been a minute.
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:15.760
Yeah.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:16.400
I'd imagine.
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.719
Oh, she's like, oh, I remember this melody.
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.880
Brad Pitt shows up.
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.559
It's like, you're 80 something years old.
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:23.679
You're you're gonna make it happen.
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.280
Kirsten Dunce shows up.
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.679
She is acting circles around these men, though.
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.079
Like she is an incre didn't she was she nominated for an Oscar for that?
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:33.679
She I she may have that.
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:34.320
I think she may have been.
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.199
This is her big break.
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.519
I think she she was so good.
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:46.000
Like she's this little sweetie pie that's like snuggling up to him, and like you feel bad for her because she's a little girl, and then she's just a little psychopath, too.
00:44:46.480 --> 00:45:02.159
I saw an article about it, and when uh Cruz bring Cruz essentially gets her to like make Brad Pitt stay and like be happy, and it was like just one vampire platonically baby trapping another vampire, and I was like, it's so true, it's true.
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.199
It was sad though when she realized like she was never gonna grow up.
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:07.519
I think I missed when they kissed.
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.280
I don't think I was paying attention.
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.239
They did kiss that, like she always says that that was her first kiss.
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:13.440
I think I missed that too.
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:14.480
Maybe I blocked that up.
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.159
They did though, because she's talked about it.
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.559
I love when they play sympathy for the devil at the end.
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.000
I thought that was such a good choice.
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.079
Now, Lestat Cruz was very hard partying.
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.000
He really went hard and was like taking it down anyone who would he could find pretty much.
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.079
He said he did like three, four women a night.
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:33.199
Like, take it easy.
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:38.400
And then he's wasting away, kind of like getting really pale and sick and whatever.
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:44.719
And like, do you think that it was kind of a little bit of a commentary on like the AIDS crisis that was happening at that time?
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:45.519
Oh wow.
00:45:45.840 --> 00:46:14.239
Because if you think about it, you know, like we said, like it's always with like a mysterious illness, and we kind of knew at that point it would have been like 90 probably when they were filming this, because I think it was what 91, 92, but it was probably still such a taboo, and then with like the homo eroticism, I was like, I wonder if maybe them trying to show in a very subtle way you go hard and then you know you end up that's what happens, yeah.
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:15.519
Even with the women, right?
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.480
Yeah, you go a little too too much neck, and then guess what?
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:29.440
You're gonna pick the wrong one at some point, and also the plan was to recreate the character as a woman so Cher could play Lestat's lover, making it more palatable to straight audiences at one point.
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.639
So Cher was gonna be the I think the Brad Pitt role.
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:33.360
What?
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.920
Well, yeah, and Cher and Tom Cruise dated.
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.320
We talked about this in our random episodes.
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:39.039
Oh, yeah.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.079
But I don't know, yeah.
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:41.119
It was a great movie.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:41.840
Definitely.
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.119
I haven't I I hadn't seen it since the early 90s, so it was good.
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:45.920
Lost Boys.
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:46.480
Great movie.
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:46.880
What?
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:48.079
I said it was a great movie.
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:49.119
Yeah, it is a great movie.
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:50.000
Lost Boys.
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:51.840
So Lost Boys, incredible.
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:52.559
Incredible.
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.800
Jason Patrick looks so much like Will from Will and Grace, I couldn't stop thinking about it.
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.719
To the point where I kind of thought it was him.
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:00.400
Yeah, okay.
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:01.360
I could see that.
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.079
And then Ted, I can like Ted from Bill and Ted.
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:05.280
Yeah, Bill and Ted with that.
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:06.400
No, is it Bill?
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.320
No, Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:08.719
Right?
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:10.719
Yeah, but like was that was he Bill or was he?
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:11.840
I think he was Ted.
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:12.960
I'm pretty sure he's Ted.
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:14.079
I think Bill was Keanu.
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:14.800
Okay.
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:15.519
I want to say.
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:16.159
I don't know.
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:17.039
I'm not that familiar with it.
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.320
That would be a good episode, though.
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:18.559
Yeah.
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:20.800
A Haym Feldman duo.
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:26.000
I always wonder about like what would happen if Haym lived and Feldman died.
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.519
Because Hayme Well, it's not like Haym was doing a ton of Yeah, I know.
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.199
Because I always think that he was like a child.
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:41.119
I always think he was like Jonathan Brandis that was taken before his no, like he was like, I think he would it obviously there was some like mistreatment of those guys.
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:42.639
Yeah Charlie Sheen.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.159
Charlie Sheen did some shit.
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.639
Allegedly, he like molested Haym, according according to Feldman.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:49.199
Allegedly.
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.440
Why the fuck do these rich people do this shit?
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:52.480
I don't understand it.
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.079
I mean, speak speaking of, he was looking a little pale there for a while too, wasn't he?
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:56.320
Yeah.
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.079
Didn't he have some kind of like AIDS scare?
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.480
Yeah, no, he he has HIV.
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:01.119
Oh, all right.
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:02.639
It's not a big deal anymore, though.
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:11.760
You take like prep or whatever, and you look not that it's not a big deal, but you can like live and like everybody's Magic Johnson, basically.
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.000
Like you can live with it, not spread it, you know.
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:20.559
Yeah, because you can you imagine like sleeping with someone and then your HIV and then like you tell them after, and they're you're like, it's not a big deal anymore.
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:21.679
Yeah, it's a big deal.
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.119
It is a big deal, it is a big deal.
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:24.079
Yeah, it'll be a big deal then.
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.000
I love when they made him a vampire and the only difference is he got an earring.
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:29.360
Yeah.
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:30.480
Yeah.
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:32.159
Yeah, I don't know.
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.639
It was a little anticlimactic for me.
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.519
It didn't really feel like that much happened in it.
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.239
I know, but it's just like young keeper.
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.079
There's just like that blonde hair, it was toned very nicely.
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:44.880
I will say that.
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.239
I just think that like for whatever reason, I really like that movie.
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:48.960
I don't know why.
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:50.239
Yeah, no, it was good.
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.639
And then no Sferatu.
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:56.000
I hated this movie.
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.519
I feel like they're trying to do too much with like the visuals.
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.079
Yeah, like it was too whatever.
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:03.679
I just I hated it.
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.239
I hated Orlock, I hated his voice.
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.000
No offense to Skarsgard.
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.719
I was so bored, and then I was disgusted.
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.119
When he was like humping him on top of him on the floor, I was like, all right, I gotta get out of here.
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:15.920
Like, I can't do this.
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.840
And then I went back, I listened to a podcast about it.
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:18.400
I went back and went.
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:25.039
I watched the end when the rats came, and then when she like trapped him at the end, which I like that.
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:26.239
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:27.920
So vampires, right?
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.000
Yeah, like it just it I don't know.
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:31.360
It was fine, it was whatever.
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.199
I wouldn't wouldn't recommend it, but it was you know, they did a good job.
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.440
It was a well done movie, but I don't know.
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.760
Yeah, like visually, as they say, it's pretty good.
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.639
Oh, and how about how when he was talking, he I think that's it too.
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:44.800
It sounds like he needs a CPAP machine.
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:48.960
He's like Yeah.
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It was like this is terrible.
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I and like they're trying, that's a choice, you know what I mean?
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I guess, but like whatever.
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Yeah, I think the 1992 Dracula.
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I would like I'm gonna watch it one day when it comes on streaming, probably in like a week.
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Watch it.
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I'm surprised it's not right now.
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I know what is up with this, as I said to you, like it's supposed to be Huluween.
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What's going on there?
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Like Peacock doing it, really doing it for the Halloween season.
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They're doing they got a lot.
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Netflix has got some HBO Max.
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They crush it.
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All right, and on that note, we will see you next week.