MISTAH FAB: The Mayor of Oakland Speaks! 🌉👑 | Uncut Game on W.Y.A.U.

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Wake your ass up.
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It is time for the podcast.
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We are live and uncut.
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Man, we back again with another one, man.
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It's the Wake Your Ass Up Podcast, man.
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We got a very special guest, man.
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Town Legend, man.
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A boss, man.
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An innovator.
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A community activist.
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A black brother that puts on for everybody, no matter what color, what ethnicity you is and what religion you might stand by.
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Who we got today?
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What's scoring?
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No, man.
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It's your cousin, man.
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Your cousin Stanley, man.
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You feel me?
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I'm just chilling, man.
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I'm uh I love what you're doing, man.
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Love, you know, the setup, the consistency.
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Off camera, we were talking about I think how dedicated one has to be to have a podcast going, just in general.
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So to be able to show up and do these things like that.
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So I commend you for that, man.
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And man, just appreciate, you know, this is long overdue.
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It's something that we had spoken about doing since I think you created this even during the pandemic of just talking and following up to getting the podcast going now.
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So, you know, I'm excited to be here, man, and happy, you know, to share some ideas and thoughts with you.
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Oh man, thank you.
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It's an honor.
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Well, we're gonna start from the very beginning, man.
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Like, how was Mr.
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Fab's upbringing?
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Well, we started before Mr.
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Fab, how was Stanley's upbringing?
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Very humble beginnings, my take.
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It's no different than anybody that comes from the areas that we come from.
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Divided household, parents fighting drug addictions.
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During that time, you go stay with your grandmother, crowded house.
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You know, I think uh the need for cater to to have certain attention in the midst of 12 kids staying at a, you know, two, three-room house at Granny's house.
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Granny doing her best to take care of her kids' kids, still while loving and meaningful her own kids, hoping that they get better and praying for them to, you know, get off drugs.
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And that created a tight-knit, close family, though.
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My mother had 11 sisters and one brother, so my family is very close.
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We were very, very tight, tight-knit as far as cousins raised like brothers and sisters.
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And we were all siblings instead of just, you know, cousin peers.
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We were all more so like brothers and sisters, me and most of all of my cousins growing up in those situations.
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Lost my father early.
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My father died to age when I was like 11 or 12.
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Mom made a promise to, you know, get her life back on track and dedicate everything that she was doing in life to my well-being.
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And she was one of the most supportive mothers that anyone can ask for.
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Any child that could ever ask for, just she supported me in any endeavor that I ever wanted to do, whatever it may have been.
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Whether if it was sports at that time, if it was fashion, if it was the only time she ever went against me is when she threw my baseball cards away.
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We still funk her from heaven for that one.
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That was crazy, bro.
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I'm still like, I be sometimes like, bro, I had collection.
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But nah, man, my mother was like the greatest human on earth in my eyes, which I feel like every person should feel their parents are.
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And she set the catalyst for what it was to be a parent.
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So let's let's rewind back a little bit.
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When did the separation come between the situation between your parents and you having to be with your grandma?
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Very early.
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Like I never I don't even have a picture of my mom and dad together.
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I don't even have many memories of them to me, at least pleasant memories.
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I think a lot of things were they were young.
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You know, my my my dad had a child, his firstborn at 16 by a woman that was almost 10 years older than him.
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So he was forced into adulthood prematurely.
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And I think you have to be mindful of that and forgive your parents as you get older, that some of your parents were just, they were kids.
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Right.
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They were kids just trying to figure it out, you know?
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And when you start putting yourself in those positions and you start viewing yourself, what were they like at the age that you are now?
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Like my dad died at 41.
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And so me being 44, I'm older than my dad was, you know.
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So I can only imagine with so much life that I feel like I have left in me to live, and so many things that I haven't done, and spaces that I haven't grown from that I wish to mature to, I can only imagine how unfulfilled he was at that age.
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So he was still a child, man.
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You know, he was he was still a child, still trying to figure out things and trying to get it on his own.
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So they they never in my lifetime, they never were like together together like that, you know.
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He had a severe drug addiction, and my mother was battling her drug addictions.
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And so, you know, um I think she made the best decision to take me to my grandparents' house at an early age so she could get right.
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And uh and that's what she did.
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And like I say, I as I got older, you know, before she died, and what I mean by before she died, I'm talking about like like an hour before she died.
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Like I told her, Man, I forgive you.
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And I think she uh that was that was a resting space for her.
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Like she finally felt like she did enough for me to forgive her.
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And she passed like an hour later, bro.
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So yeah, that was a that was a good thing.
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But the message to, you know, kids and and and and children and siblings and stuff like that, man, you know, forgive your parents, man.
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Forgive, forgive your parents for the thing time hadn't taught them yet.
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You know, forgive them for stuff that they hadn't experienced and and and they didn't mean any harm.
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They just was going with the information that they had access to.
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And so sometimes we have to, you know, we have to forgive our parents, man, for for what they don't know at that time and understand they was just working with the straps they was giving.
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What are some of the cause and effects that may bother you as a child growing up without them and having to, you know, be nurtured in a whole different way from a grandparents' point of view instead of a parent's point of view?
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It was always the question of was drugs more important than me?
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You know?
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Wasn't addiction more important than loving your child?
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You know, we play sports growing up, so going to games and seeing all your friends, fathers and brothers and stuff at games, and you like, damn.
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My daddy ain't never come to see me play basketball.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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And then watching how tired, tired your mom was coming to a game after working two or two jobs, just so she could have some form of support and she wanna want to be at the game and be excited, but she she dozing off because she, you know, she she didn't work the 16-hour chip.
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Those things are humbling, man.
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Those things are stuff that makes you you don't trip off of it when you're young, but when you get older, you look back like, damn.
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Like that was a burden carrying those burdens as a young age.
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Like, what drugs more important than, you know, loving your child?
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And you know, those were conundrums that you fight through and you swim through.
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And you know, when we when we're young, we we hide it behind, we mask it.
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We mask it by a multitude of things.
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We mask it by, you know, clothes, money, cars, girls.
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We mask it.
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I think I remember vividly, you know, my days of being a class clown and just being a jokester and and and trying to take out what I was going through internally on others that wore it visibly.
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Like you could talk about the dude that wore pro wings, or you could talk about the girl whose hair wasn't done because, you know, they weren't able to mask it as well as you were.
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But we was an argument away from being homeless.
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We had roaches, we had, you know what I'm saying?
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But some nice clothes and a nice smile could hide all that.
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So you never know what somebody's going through.
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You know, that's why they say it's very important that you check on your friends that are always convivial, your friends that are always upbeat, the ones that make it seem like nothing's going on, because those are the ones that are suffering the most.
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So you was always a fly kid growing up, you know, that I've seen throughout some of the, you know, my UMS stories and, you know, pictures that you can show this throughout your journey.
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You always fit it.
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But as I can see, you know, sports and basketball was kind of like your first love, you know.
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What were some of the things that, you know, gave you the mentality to even want to play sports due to the things that you were dealing with?
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Baseball was my first love, which I think like many, many people that grew up, you know, that's when black kids play baseball a lot.
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Yeah, babe roof, like baseball.
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Like that was like all my friends play baseball.
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It wasn't as many the access to AAU basketball like it is today.
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And things like, you know what I'm saying?
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You had Berkeley Cougars, Oakland Dynamites, the Saints, you know what I'm saying?
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And this before the Saints was even like the Saints came around like like when I hear like teenagers, but you would he was okay, it was Berkeley Cougars, Dynamites, or Kappa, MC Hammer, New York Times, uh, New York, you know, you know what I'm saying or that.
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So you either, every Saturday you was at Greenman, you were at Marswood, or you was at uh Concordia.
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And those was the, you know, those was the baseball days, man.
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And I think sports were synonymous with an option that we felt like we could utilize this to get out of our situations.
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We could change our situations.
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Especially if you have proximity to individuals that actually made it.
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And they gave you a hope.
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They gave you, you know, looking at Ricky Henderson and being like, man, he's from Oakland.
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You know, Dave Stewart, like, he's from Oakland.
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You like, yeah, they play for the A's, they're right here.
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We we can make it too.
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And I think those uh Bip Roberts and other individuals, Terry Pendleton, there was a those are like people that were from Oakland that we were growing up that were baseball players in those times.
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And so baseball was a love.
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And I felt like being on that diamond or being on that basketball court or being on that field, it took away from the reality that you had to return home to.
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A lot of us spent more time on that playground because once you went home, you knew what you were entering.
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You knew you were entering in an abusive household where your parents were fighting and bickering, or it was just tough.
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It was, you know, you you you some some people were, I mean, some of the things that some of some of the kids that were going through, man, when they were old enough and got had the courage to tell their stories, it makes you realize why they were the way when they were young.
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When you hear women get older and be like, you know, I was getting raped when we were kids, like, damn, like, whoa, you know, you you re see the reason why they were so either either hypersexual or super standoffish, or some of the dudes, dudes that was getting touched on, and the reason why they were so violent and so angry.
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And yeah, man, childhood psychology, man, when you study and dive into the dichotomy of that, it begins to make you observe things at a differ at a with a deeper lens.
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And like I say, sometimes sports kept us away from the realities that was going on at home.
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So did you ever participate, like in like the exploratorium, you know?
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Sure.
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So when you participated in that, what were some of the things that you did?
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Like, did you cite a well-known poem?
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Did you write your own poem, or you know, did you just create something that you might have heard from the latest people in the neighborhood?
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At an early age, I had advanced education.
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Like I was always kind of like I was in always all the special programs, like Mesa, which was like the Math Engineering Science Academy.
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I was in Gate, which was gifted and talented education.
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I was selected to go to the Math Olympics, which was held at Holy Names, where you had some of the best mathematicians around your area from SAT school.
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I mean, um, what was those tests?
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The CTBS, whatever those tests were.
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It was whatever those tests was when we was young.
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And so I've always, I think education-wise, I've always had that.
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That kind of like, that was my niche.
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I always loved school.
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I always like loved learning and stuff like that.
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When we were young, people called it square or a nerd or whatever.
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But, you know, I think those were their insecurities projecting.
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It was just well-rounded from an educational point of view.
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So I do, I do, I do remember Lawrence Hall of Science and stuff like that.
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I remember, you know, taking those trips.
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I remember plays and drama class, reciting the I Have a Dream speech, reciting quotes from Malcolm X's speeches, Claude McKay, If we must die, James Baldwin, different poems, different writers, which always came gave me a love for writing.
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At a very young age, I developed a love for writing.
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And then when I would get in trouble, my mom, my my form of trouble was my mom would make me read the dictionary.
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She did that, uh, we were moving not too long ago, you know, Liv getting ready to go to college and just getting her stuff together.
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And so I found uh I found a dictionary that my mother gifted me that I gave to her.
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And it was dope, man, just reading what it said.
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That the caption that my mother wrote when she was saying, I hope that this book helps you go on to become a wealthy person.
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And I'm not talking about money.
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And that was super dope, man.
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Just how she invested in me at a young age, she knew that, you know, this is that knowledge, man.
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Knowledge is knowledge is power.
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Knowledge is powering, man, and to be empowered by such a significant figure in your life was very motivating.
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So yeah.
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So through the literature of love, I'm here, you know.
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Where did your love have come in with music?
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And like, how old were you?
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And what what gave you that drive to even want to just adapt to even listen to music?
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I grew up in a musical household.
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Like, now don't quote me, but it's some correlation between my grandmother and Sam Cook.
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I mean, he might be a cousin or it's something like that.
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Like, so I know for sure Karen White is my cousin.
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And in the 80s, Karen White was like a superstar.
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Karen White was like the second coming of Whitney Houston, is what, you know, how how how like when she had the song I'm not your superwoman and all around the family, you know, your family be like, you know, that's your cousin.
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That's your granddaddy daughter, niece, or daughter, niece, daughter, something like that.
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So we grew up in a musical household, and then my grandfather was my grandfather's like an old.
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My I to this day, I don't know exactly what my grandfather did.
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Like I never seen him get up and go work, nothing like that.
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But I never seen my grandmother work.
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Like my grand, my granddaddy had 12 kids, 11 girls and one boy.
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We always had a big house.
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The bills was always paid.
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Like my I don't know what he did.
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He just was, we I don't know, man.
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He was like he was a he was a lieutenant, he was a detective, he was an ex an ex-military dude.
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He was he was a gambler, he was, I don't know, man.
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I know, I tell you this, I never seen my grandmama work a regular job.
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I've never seen her none of that.
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But everything was always paid for.
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And a lot of the stars would always be around.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, like I remember like my grandma was like Sam Cook when them would be over here, and the whispers, and I don't know, like it was just like people that knew my granddaddy was like, man, A Z, man, Asbury was like, uh I don't know.
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So I just come from a musical family, man.
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I remember, you know, holidays where we all lined up.
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It was like talent shows.
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Everybody had to sing, pick songs.
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But I think I became immersed in the love of music after writing around the time that my father had passed, and I began writing poetry because I went into a dark space.
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I went to childhood depression, you know.
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At the time, we didn't know much about AIDS.
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We had always thought that in our community, the way that it was for ordered to us, that, you know, AIDS was synonymous with homosexual activities.
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And our community had grew up, you know, very homophobic.
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And when you hear that your dad died from AIDS, you like you lost in like what?
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Like, it was my you know what I'm saying?
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You start thinking like, what, what was what happened?
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And so I just was, you know, I I I dove into a lot of, you know, childhood depressed, and writing became a gear shift for me.
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I was able to write, I was able to write my pain away, I was able to write my dreams, I was able to write a lot of those things, and and as time progressed and and and hip hop became the most influential genre of music, people would be like, yo, you should turn this into that.
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You know, you gotta go on, you're rhyming already.
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And I just started going towards it, man.
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And and hey, man, it was uh a great decision to me that I feel like I made because it's it's it's it's changed not only my life, but many around me.
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So for those, you know, a lot of people probably hear that Fab's first introduction to the music was Nick Lightning, but I know Fab had a mixtape before Nick Lightning.
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What was that?
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It was called Nick Lightning Dude.
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It was uh me, Bobby Drake, E B, and uh Do Damage.
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I had uh So Dude Damage was like my first producer who like really like who did it who did so Dude was like Dude was a young kid from North Oakland who comes from a musical family.
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His brother was in this group called The Bums, which were signed to Sway.
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And they were on I think they were on Tommy Boyd.
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I can't really remember.
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I think they were on Tommy Boyd, but at the time they were like super hip-hop group, and Ebon was like probably one of the dopest rappers ever.
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And and uh D.Y.'s and Ebob and and Dewey was like their little brother, so he was projected to be like next in the in, you know, in our area.
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So everywhere we went in Norfolk, we knew that, you know, man, your brother just had a video on Rap City.
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We see, you know what I'm saying, and and Dewey used to be at the swimming pool.
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And he'd be, you know, beatboxing and making beats.
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He had like the old dog braids, and he'd be beatboxing, he'd be like, Stan, Stan, bro, we gonna get in the studio.
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Everybody knew he had a studio at the house.
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I mean, I bet give me a beat, man.
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Let me get some beats.
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I remember he gave me a tape, some beats.
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I was like, damn, me is hard.
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Like, so me and Mondo, we just started, you know, rapping over the beats.
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Mondo had a host.
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Mondo Surat.
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No, not that one, not Surat.
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Mondo Cole.
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Mondo Cole.
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Not Surat.
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Surat was a little younger than us, but Mondo Cole, AC.
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AC had like a setup at the crib where he had like an old radio boom box, and he like he had a studio, he hooked it up, he broke off one of the headphones and hung it up.
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That was the mic.
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And now we'd be at Jack House's mama, mama, Jack.
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And we'd just be recording, we'd be recording at the stuff.
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And I was watching AC and them sell tapes.
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They were selling tapes at school.
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And I was like, bro, put this on tape.
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I mean, how can I come to the house and so we did some stuff.
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So I mean, I mean, it's a long journey, man.
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But we created this, the first project called Nick Latin, produced by EB, Bobby Drake, and Do Damage.
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And I was just in the streets, just passing it out, selling it.
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A lot of people was like, you know, I think it was my introduction to the locals, like, oh, you rapping, oh, he rapping.
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And it was a great segue for me to kind of be, you know, to find what we were doing.
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I I made it to the Source magazine with that, and battling and rapping, and then I hooked up with Jazzy Jim and Gary Archer, and uh that was the push that, you know, any kid could dream for.
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So Jazzy Jim and Gary Archer are brothers, sorry.
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But who is Nooch to you?
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My first husband.
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Nooch is my mother's sister son.
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And Nooch is somebody that everybody tries to leave out of equations.
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But Nooch had to do a lot to do with a lot of artists from Northern California doing some of their first shows, some of their first tours.
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Funny that yesterday, well, I don't know when this is gonna air, but funny my cousin Root Dog was like the first rapper in the family, right?
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And Roop Would come down, he would have like posters of his stuff, and you know, you know, when you young, somebody on a poster, you like, you rich, like you made it.
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And uh hustling, like you know what I'm saying.
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Ain't no doubt about it.
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Nootch was involved in, you know, urban pharmaceuticals.
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And he was hustling, he was putting a lot of money behind his brother.
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Root is his brother.
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But Root was like, he likes PDU rapping.
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I'm like, yeah, I'm like, uh, yeah, because I'm rapping.
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He like, he like, man, we finna go on, he said, man, I'm finna go on tour, man.
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We finna go play around Seattle, Oregon, all the whole stuff.
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He's like, I'm gonna ask Dez if if if you could go with us.
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And I'm like, bruh, I'm going.
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I'm like, I'm like, I don't care what she says, I'm going.
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And I was like, ma, can I go with Ruben?
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She was like, hell no.
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She was like, man, them niggas is going to jail.
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And uh I'm like, nah, I'm like, I'm like, nah, they this tour and it's in raps tour.
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She like, and you know, my mom was super overprotective of me, man.
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You know, I was her only child.
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I was really her only everything.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So she was always just a loving mother.
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But she was like, man, go ahead, dude.
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She was like, that's what you want to do.
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And so Roop took me on his first like tour, and and Nooch through that tour.
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Like, Nooch, Nooch moved a lot of us around, bro.
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Nooch gave a lot of us opportunity to go places.
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And people, whatever they say about them, you know, one thing they can't deny is he gave people opportunity to get on.
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And still to this day, moving around, networking, hustling.
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He showed me a lot about the game.
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My mama taught him a lot about the game.
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And and he, you know, we bring it back full circle, man.
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That dude is the ultimate hustler.
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And my cousin has always been and will always be one of my role models, man, and and and a go-to guy when it comes to the art of hustling.
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You know, I watched him.
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I watched him make nothing out of something.
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I watched him, I, you know, I watched him go from being a brick man to being a promoter to networking.
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And, you know, hey man, the nukes, man, who you with is who you know.
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So we want to know the truth today, right?
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Who introduced fad to Max Dre and how did Fad even course hard to even make we ain't even be in his his for conference to even know about Mr.
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Fad.
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The truth The truth is Be Love and Justin Lomez.
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Be Love Yeah, thanks to which did a documentary called 23109 Exhibition of Speed.
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They came to my mama's house and filmed my part.
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And I think that's the first time that Dre got whiff of me because this was right before Trill TV, or around the same time that Trill T Boot was coming out.
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And so Dre was distributing that documentary for Beloved, because Justin Lomax was the cameraman.
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And of course Dre had to see it, preview it.
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And he was like, Cuddy, who is this?
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Like, this personality is crazy.
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You feel me?
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He's hella funny.
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Like, who is this?
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And Nootch was like, nigga, that's my cousin.
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I was telling you about.
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That's my mom, he like, that's my my mama sister son, like my real little cousin.
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And Nooch, like, and because Nootch was managing Dre at the time.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Nooch was managing Mac Dre at the time.
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Facts.
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Wow.
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That's a fact.
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And so he like, nigga, we're gonna pull up to my auntie house.
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And they pull up and came and got some weed.
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You know, my mama sold weed, my mama was the weed lady.
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And so they pull up, I'm on the stairs, pull up in the vans.
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He like Pitty Auntie up in there.
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I'm like, yeah.
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He like, he like, let me get some weed.
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I'm like, all right, I'm like, what you want?
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His shit like, well, let me get three foot dub.
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I'm like, oh man, we don't got three foot dub.
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I got like three foot twenty-five for you, bruh.
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So he like niggas for nigga Mack Dre, nigga to Cuddy in the car.
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Cuddy was like, Cuddy rolled one of he like, like, yeah, it was uh Cuddy and like nigga Dre to the hood, nigga, what's up?
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And uh, and that was it.
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He was Dre was like, yo, auntie see a wee, Cuddy.
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He was like, Cody, this is crazy.
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Cuddy, your whole family hustlers, Cuddy.
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And uh that shit was like, that was that was the like that was the kickoff, man.
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That was the kickoff.
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And then Kelo was like uh we had been seeing each other in traffic.
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It was everywhere they go, I would be in these places, and they would be like, nigga, you be everywhere.
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Like, you know, I got the rap truck at this, you know, rap vehicle.
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We had so I'm everywhere they at.
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Hey, Cuddy, what you fuck with?
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I'm like, I'm to the neck, bro.
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Like, you feel me?
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.640
It's just me and Gary dugging it out everywhere.
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And man, that was, you know, it was inevitable.
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That's how that's how I was.
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Neutral's like, Cody, we finna go on the road.
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Won't won't, come on, let's go with us.
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So I think the first tour that we really went on was an Andre Nicotina tour.
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And a lot of people don't know that Nicotina.
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Dre Dog.
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Dre Dog kind of like gave a caboose to Mac Dre.
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Like when it came to those other fans.
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The Sebastian Pool, the Santa Rosa, the Ukaya, the Weeds, the, you know, Metfurt, the all the Salem Olympia.
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You know what I'm saying?
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He kind of gave, he was like, look, man, Rapcat, y'all going after Well Wells, I guess a whole stadium of other fans that love us.
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And the only reason that, you know, you don't feel the support, because we don't go up there and go rock with that.
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But you could make a living just going to Petaluma Santa Rosa every three months.
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And when he introduced Dre to that Chitlin market like that, it was over.
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It wasn't no looking back.
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Because he gave him a whole new fan base.
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:47.759
So when he first went up there, the first bill was like Nicotina, Mac Dre, Keek.
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Damn, who was on that card?
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Root Dog.
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I think Quinn.
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The first card.
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And I was like, and I was open if all of them, like, because I hadn't been, you know, they, they hadn't, I just was hella dope at freestyling, but I hadn't had no songs or nothing like that.
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But I always been a good performer.
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So whatever songs I had at the time, I was performing those.
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And they was like, it was like, it's like, yeah, and I just worked my way up.
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But once Dre got that, that, that crowd, man, they wasn't on looking back.
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He was on fire.
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Then when Trill TV dropped, like people from Oakland won't admit it.
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And and other parts, but they really wasn't on Dre like that.
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I had just said that and Shark Boy here.
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Yeah, they wasn't, they wasn't on Dre like that.
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:54.880
Like you got some, you got some real Mac Dre core fans, but until like Trill TV and unfortunately after he passed.
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That's the guy.
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But like, you know what I'm saying?
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It was like, because I'm a keeper to the buck.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.759
When I saw Trill TV, I'm like, that nigga living like this.
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.839
Trill TV changed my whole outlook on Dre.
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Because I remember life is crazy.
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Now that I look back at it, it was like, it was inevitable for me not to rock with Dre, it seemed like.
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Because I started getting into a little trouble around 13, 14.
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And my mom sent me to go stay with my auntie, my auntie Suzette.
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And she lived in the Crest.
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So I spent my summers in the Crest.
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Like, you feel me?
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.720
On Rodell, like right above the Crest.
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.519
And my cousin LaWan and B Love was like best friends.
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:54.400
So years later, when B Love was like, I'm doing this documentary, he came and was, you know what I'm saying?
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.000
It was crazy how life worked like that.
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.799
So years later, he was like, it was like Petey.
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Because nobody, like, they didn't know Fab.
00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:03.279
I was, I was cousin Petey, you feel me?
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.480
And they was like, it's like, oh, you F-A-B?
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:08.079
Oh, that's crazy.
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:09.440
Like, that's Petey.
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.160
So for the summers, I was going out there showing him the gigs, you know, he was gigging at the house parties.
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.319
So that was crazy, bro.
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I like you working like that.
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Like, so it was dope.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.920
So just that whole little synergy of how things happen.
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:35.519
But when I seen Trill TV and I was like, this nigga got G-Wagons, this nigga got Cougars, he chains, image, man, that that took it to a whole nother level.
00:32:37.120 --> 00:32:48.480
So are you the only official this entertainment artists?
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:54.559
Or is there's others that's with you that's this entertainment artist?
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I don't know, I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to say that truthfully.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You know when I did a song on that what was the record?
00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:08.720
On Kick Out the Club?
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When I say I signed on the line with this ENT.
00:33:15.360 --> 00:33:17.680
Nigga, we never signed no paperwork.
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.079
It wasn't never no contracts.
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.720
Till this day, it was all verbal.
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.120
So it was like, you rockin'?
00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:26.240
I'm rocking.
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Well, too.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:34.559
We never signed no, we never, it was never no lawyers or nothing signed ever, till this day.
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:46.640
So for me to go out and say, man, I was the only signed artist on Thears ENT, I think a lot of that be territorial where artists be wanting to be more than, you know, you know what I'm saying, more personal.
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:57.279
Like, you know, I think the string of me meeting Dre and Dre passing may have only been like a small window, like maybe a year and a couple of months.
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Like, you know what I mean?
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.240
Like, if that, like, you know what I mean?
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:09.839
So I tell people all the time, history will make it seem like y'all was closer than what y'all actually was.
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:23.519
But the window of me meeting Dre, building that, you know what I'm saying, that that camaraderie, that brotherhood, we didn't get, we didn't get that low.
00:34:23.759 --> 00:34:25.759
It was just like it wasn't, you know what I'm saying?
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:36.160
We we didn't get a chance to flourish and to watch the the maturation of that friendship of what it could have been glue in like that, you know?
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:43.760
So, but his relationship with Ryder, like in saying, I think I was like his little brother.
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:51.760
Like nobody was, to me, nobody was tighter with Dre outside of the media, you know, by Trey Five cats, like you feel me?
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.320
Doobie, you know what I mean?
00:34:55.040 --> 00:34:58.160
And and and and the folks that he that he really rocked with like that.
00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:01.200
But of course, you gotta always show love to me.
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.240
Doobie was always the most solid because he was honest.
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:15.680
Like Doobie was doobie is always, and I feel like Doobie is the unsung hero in a lot of those things, like where they forget about how important Doobie played, because he was still the Turf Bandit.
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.720
He was still the one.
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.200
You could go slide through Sawyer and see him outside.
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:19.840
You know what I'm saying?
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:30.480
You could see him, you know, he was Turf Bandicoot and you know, Sleep Dank and all of the other individuals that was a part of the, you know, the original romp and the crew, stuff like that.
00:35:30.640 --> 00:35:36.000
But but Clyde, Huss, you know, him and Huss was super close.
00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:41.040
But yeah, though, so for me, I I would I would never go out and say that.
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:54.800
Now there were a lot of individuals that came around after he passed, and they'll they'll say things like, you know, that they were there and and you know, that's on them.
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:55.920
That's what they gotta live with.
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:20.800
In three words how would you express Marjorie We gonna win.
00:36:22.640 --> 00:36:25.440
In three words, we gon win.
00:36:26.240 --> 00:36:40.480
He was big on we He was very big on we And seldomly do you see individuals that have been placed with a level of influence like he had that utilizes we.
00:36:42.240 --> 00:36:46.800
It was a team effort, it was a team player, it was like, yo, it was we, we gonna win.
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.880
Because he wanted to make sure that all his folks was there, like we was in.
00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:00.480
Like I feel like he could have he could have took a deal for himself, he could have did everything.
00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:04.720
And he was like, nah, Cadeaus, you know, we this a we thing, we going.
00:37:05.200 --> 00:37:06.000
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:13.200
He was very I mean, even when you dive into, you know, the the dichotomy of his his prison stint.
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.960
He didn't even ri he had nothing to do with a bank robber.
00:37:20.160 --> 00:37:21.040
Well, it was absurd.
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.360
He was just like, man, I ain't trying to.
00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:25.840
They like Dre, we gonna let you out.
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:27.600
Just tell us.
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:32.720
He didn't even have to, he didn't even have to say that they robbed banks.
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.560
Just tell us that you knew.
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:37.280
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.400
It was like, you don't even gotta tell us that you robbed a bank or that that that they was coming to rob a bank.
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:43.680
Just tell us you knew.
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.480
He was like, I don't know, nothing.
00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:50.720
And six years of his life, you know?
00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:55.040
He went to go do, he sat down for some week.
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:03.840
And and and we gonna win was always to me, that was just his his mindset.
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:10.560
Like I even just watched how he took on responsibilities for the whole camp.
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:12.400
Everybody was just like, damn.
00:38:14.240 --> 00:38:15.360
Put it out there, you know.
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.800
That's why I see a lot of the same sentiments in his crew.
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.160
I mean, but they come from neighborhoods.
00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:23.920
They come from neighborhoods that's that's family.
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.280
When you come from neighborhoods like that, you got that type of energy.
00:38:27.520 --> 00:38:31.120
You don't see that today because so much individualism.
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.200
It's easy to cut somebody off if you ain't grow up with them.
00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:39.600
Y'all rep the same thing, but y'all ain't grew up together.
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.960
Y'all ain't you ain't asked somebody, mama, could you spend a night?
00:38:43.120 --> 00:38:51.840
Like it's hard to back those somebody that you really grew up with, sharing socks with, sharing, you know what I'm saying, foot and head after, you know what I'm saying, after being a bed.
00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:55.840
You know, I know you pee in a bed, but I ain't gonna tell nobody them our secrets is safe.
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:56.560
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:56.640 --> 00:39:02.160
It's hard to you, you, you, you take, you take a different kind of dude to cut somebody off like that.
00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:06.560
Like, you know what I'm saying, or some egregious act that's unforgivable.
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:12.560
But when you come up with folk like that, it'd be hard to to to to mess up their friendships.
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:13.120
Man.
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.640
So let's speed it up a little bit.
00:39:17.120 --> 00:39:23.200
You know, you you created a dope album that got a lot of shock value at the time, Son of a Pimp.
00:39:23.520 --> 00:39:25.680
You had a lot of great production on there.
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.280
Shanti, Trax Amelia, and a host of others.
00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:30.480
Tracks wasn't on that album.
00:39:30.640 --> 00:39:31.360
Tracks wasn't on that one?
00:39:31.680 --> 00:39:31.760
No.
00:39:32.080 --> 00:39:32.720
He was on the next one.
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.960
Nope, he wasn't on Son of a Pimp 2 either.
00:39:35.200 --> 00:39:35.840
Damn.
00:39:36.080 --> 00:39:36.400
Nope.
00:39:36.560 --> 00:39:38.720
So it was just something that you just worked with throughout the time.
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:45.040
Me and Trax A Million did a song and he used it for his album, which was like one of his biggest songs that he ever produced.
00:39:45.200 --> 00:39:45.360
Wow.
00:39:45.600 --> 00:39:48.160
Outside of Super Hyphy, but he did.
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:51.840
He did Sideshow.
00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:53.040
Yeah.
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.880
Yeah, he did sideshow.
00:39:55.040 --> 00:39:57.280
But it was never on none of my albums.
00:39:57.600 --> 00:39:58.880
It was on it was on his right.
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.240
That's crazy, because now that you say that, it wasn't on any of your albums.
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:03.520
It was never on none of my albums.
00:40:03.600 --> 00:40:04.560
That was that was his.
00:40:04.720 --> 00:40:08.560
And then at that time, that was like when LimeWire was out, so somebody would find a song.
00:40:08.640 --> 00:40:09.600
We don't know how it got out.
00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:12.000
It was just leak it, upload it.
00:40:13.600 --> 00:40:15.840
But yeah, that would that was that was on Slap Attic.
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.520
That was actually one of his biggest songs that he had ever produced.
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.920
But a producer that you missed it on Son of a Pimp one was Kanye.
00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:27.440
Kanye West did the first song on there, actually.
00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:28.160
Hold on.
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:29.280
What the fuck?
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.160
Yeah, Kanye West did he did the song Big Time on there.
00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:35.840
And this is before, of course, it wasn't the Kanye that we know today.
00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:39.360
This was this was the Louis Vuitton Don.
00:40:39.520 --> 00:40:43.760
This was him with the Polo shirt, the pink polo shirt, the Louis Vuitton backpack.
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.360
I met him at the wake up show, and I was I was vibing.
00:40:47.600 --> 00:40:51.440
He was just like, you know, he was Yay.
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:52.880
Yeah, he was, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:53.040 --> 00:40:56.000
Kanye was like super fly Chicago kid.
00:40:56.240 --> 00:41:01.920
And uh he did he did big time on that album, the first song.
00:41:02.160 --> 00:41:06.240
And the intro was produced by Taj Mahan.
00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:07.040
Taj.
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:08.880
So Taj, this is before he went on.
00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:14.560
This is before he did videos for Rihanna and commercials and Nike and whatever.
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.960
He's one of the greatest creators.
00:41:17.200 --> 00:41:18.800
That's an unsung hero.
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:24.240
But Taj Stansbury, he did, he did, he actually recorded my mother.
00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:28.640
We went to his house and he recorded my mother.
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.680
Because my mom did the intro.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.080
And he recorded that.
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:42.080
And he'll always be forever in my favor for that, because that's like one of the last spaces that I have of her actual voice that I could go listen to.
00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:44.960
Whenever I, you know, when I get to missing moms.
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:54.000
But yeah, the the the star producer, which a lot of people confuse sometimes, and they think Trax A Million, but it was actually Tracademic's.
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.920
Trachodemics did like seven or eight on Son of a Pimp.
00:41:58.080 --> 00:41:58.320
Right.
00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:02.720
So he he came through and he made that album what it was.
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.400
Like I met him at Blake's.
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.560
We did a show, The New Bay Me, Frontline Balance.
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.120
We did a show at Blake's.
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.400
We were just creating just a new underground movement.
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.400
And he came up to me at Blake's and was like, yo, I make beats.
00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:22.080
And he gave me a beat CD.
00:42:22.240 --> 00:42:25.920
And when I got to the car and played the beat CD, it was other people rapping over the beats.
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:31.840
And I'm like, bro, I called the number on the CD, and I'm like, bro, why would you give me a beat CD with people rapping on it?
00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:35.600
He was like, nah, those are my beats.
00:42:35.680 --> 00:42:38.240
I just wanted you to hear them with other people's lyrics.
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:39.840
Like, so he would do mashups.
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.200
Like he would take a Nye song and put it over one of his beats.
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:43.760
Wow.
00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:46.720
And it was like, I was like, oh, that's crazy.
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.520
I'm like, well, number three, number six, number eight.
00:42:49.600 --> 00:42:51.200
He was like, I'll send them to you.
00:42:51.520 --> 00:42:53.920
And and to this day, he's one of my favorite producers, man.
00:42:54.080 --> 00:42:57.520
Tracademics is uh he made that, he made that album what it was.
00:42:57.600 --> 00:43:00.160
He gave me the soul and grit on my album.
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:06.880
Unfortunately, people only took towards the the hyphy songs, and they made it seem like that's what it was.
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.680
But that album was so much more than just a hyphen album.
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.760
It was very well-rounded.
00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:19.440
So as time progressed within that time, you signed to who?
00:43:19.600 --> 00:43:20.160
Atlantic?
00:43:21.600 --> 00:43:23.280
How did that coincide?
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.880
And I remember you actually had the Ghostbuster car in the video.
00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:42.320
From my perspective, from what I've seen, it seemed like a lot of senators and top executive kids start having car wrecks and stuff like that, and you had took on the scrutiny behind that.
00:43:43.200 --> 00:43:50.960
How did that feel at a time when you were at the height of your career and representing a city that really wouldn't get a good look at that time?
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:59.520
I think that I've become the fall guy for everything that people don't want to take accountability for my whole career.
00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:01.360
Like I'm always getting blamed for something.
00:44:01.600 --> 00:44:02.960
But I take it with a smile, man.
00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:04.720
It's a part of leadership.
00:44:06.640 --> 00:44:09.440
At the time, B.O.B.
00:44:09.600 --> 00:44:11.440
signed with Atlantic.
00:44:11.680 --> 00:44:13.280
He signed an artist deal.
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.120
It was up for us.
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.760
We had been going around shopping to different labels and things like that.
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.760
And Atlantic was the only label that was offering us a label deal.
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.400
Being from the Bay Area, you think that, man, I ain't no, I ain't signing no artist deal.
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:29.680
I'm a label deal.
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:31.520
But we didn't know nothing about no labels.
00:44:31.600 --> 00:44:33.360
We didn't know nothing about no infrastructure.
00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:35.760
So I ended up signing a label deal with Atlantic.
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.480
About running a label, knew none of that.
00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:42.720
They gave me freedom, which was actually more so rope to hang yourself.
00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:47.760
And they was like, yo, you can go turn in a project until your album is ready.
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.120
You can create a project through a subdivision, which was through SMC.
00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:52.800
I put out the Badestrian.
00:44:53.440 --> 00:45:00.800
That's what the Hammond on what the hand I put the Baidestrian out, produced primarily by Rob E.
00:45:01.600 --> 00:45:04.000
Sean T had a few on there as well.
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:10.960
But and they I think what they were looking for that album to do very well.
00:45:11.520 --> 00:45:17.120
Based off the success of the first album and the impact at the time, I had about eight, nine records on the radio.
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.640
And I think nobody at that time had that many songs on the radio.
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.560
And these are things that people forget.
00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:25.440
And sometimes when you remind them, people be like, damn, you did.
00:45:25.600 --> 00:45:33.040
You did have Super Sick with It, Kicked Out the Club, Hey Lil' Mama, Ghost Ride It, New Oakland.
00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:35.520
What else I had?
00:45:35.600 --> 00:45:37.840
I had I think I did the Vans remix.
00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:42.240
I had a Grown Man remix, which was in heavy rotation.
00:45:42.640 --> 00:45:47.280
I had we had the the the side show.
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:48.640
Then we did.
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:54.480
Everybody think I was on my cigars.
00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:55.360
I wasn't on my cigars.
00:45:56.560 --> 00:45:58.640
Keek and Turf, Turf and 40.
00:45:59.120 --> 00:46:02.080
And then I had, I think it was like one, it was like that.
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.320
Ugh, ugh, ugh.
00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:05.360
It was like one of the.
00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:06.400
That shit slap too.
00:46:07.520 --> 00:46:08.640
Hood stars so me and Hood Star.
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.760
So it was like nine records at once that was like, and like, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.760
And in rotation that was getting played, like on radio heavy.
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.160
And nobody at that time had that many records on the radio.
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.520
Oh, and it was uh Metros Interprets.
00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:30.560
And and Metro's Interpreters, like, so I was going up, like I was up.
00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:31.680
So you know what I'm saying?
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:38.000
They was looking at the radio spins, they was like, bro, how what how do you have 10 songs, nine, ten songs on the radio?
00:46:38.400 --> 00:47:09.760
So the labels were super interested, like they were they super interested, they wanted to grab, and then and then an opportunity presented itself to go do a radio show on another channel, and that was like that was the turning point at the career at that time because I w I be I got banned from the radio after that.
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:20.160
So imagine Monday when you sign with a label and then Friday no records getting played.
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.000
No nothing.
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.960
Like they just stop.
00:47:25.600 --> 00:47:26.720
All the records just stop.
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.440
So the label is like, yo, what's going on?
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.880
And I can't tell them about a personal dispute or they they they don't care about the politics like that.
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.680
They like, dude, we just gave you, you feel me, a bag.
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:38.960
Like, what do you mean?
00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:40.720
What do you mean, banned from the radio?
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:41.120
What do you mean?
00:47:41.200 --> 00:47:42.960
You're not getting you know what I'm saying, like what?
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:49.360
And that just changed, that changed the whole dynamics and and the trajectory of where I was headed at that time.
00:47:49.520 --> 00:47:56.560
And it uh it put a it put a real dark cloud over what I was doing and what I was doing, man, you know?
00:47:56.640 --> 00:48:03.360
And it couldn't have been at a worse time because at the same time, I ended up finding out my mom had cancer.
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.040
And then at the same time, I ended up finding out I had a baby on the way.
00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:13.040
So it was like, bro, it was some stuff, like it was, it was like, damn, like I'm going through it at the time.
00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:15.120
Like I'm I'm supposed to feed my family.
00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:18.720
I'm used to I'm getting I'm booked three, four shows every day.
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.880
I mean every week, like you know what I'm saying?
00:48:21.520 --> 00:48:24.400
And it just it slowed things up, man.
00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:27.200
But looking back at it, man, I felt like it was a blessing.
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:28.560
I felt like it was a blessing.
00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:34.480
I just felt like I wasn't I wasn't ready at that time to have the success.
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.040
A nigga would have smoked me.
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:51.520
Just based off the fact that it was like too much money, you don't have the emotional management to learn how to quiet certain things down, like you know, I'm three, four, five chains, I'm raceless, I'm rolling, I'm everything.
00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:56.000
I'm I'm I'm red monkeys, I'm dry, I'm every I'm crazy.
00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:04.720
S five hunnies, I'm young, dude, I'm scrapers, we pulling up in your face, raggedocious.
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:12.720
It's like if if it would have turned over more to you know what I'm saying, like the millions at that time, I wasn't ready for it.
00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:14.640
Nigga would've killed me.
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.280
And so I'm I'm I'm thankful.
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.880
Believe it or not, it may sound crazy, but I'm thankful that it didn't go the way that it went at that time.
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.440
Like I'm thankful that I was banned from the radio.
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:36.800
I wasn't able to to Mayweather fought in the Olympics.
00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:42.800
And he felt like he beat Dude and got a silver medal.
00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:45.760
I think that's like his only notable loss.
00:49:46.080 --> 00:49:48.400
You know what I'm saying, on on record.
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.880
He felt like he beat Dude.
00:49:51.600 --> 00:49:56.800
But if it wasn't for that loss, he wouldn't have become the Mayweather that he is now.
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.280
That loss is what healed him to be like, I'm never gonna feel like that again.
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:09.760
I think me being banned from the radio and having everything taken from me and being ostracized and the public never knew nothing about that.
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.560
All they blame was, oh man, the fact Ivy movie fumbled.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:17.760
But when I tell people, bro, it's easy to fumble when you when you mute the loudest voice.
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:28.400
And now people can't articulate what what the area is going about, and then our elders, when you get them to talk about it, most of the young generation, they won't relate to them.
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.720
They like, how the dude that's been doing it for years is gonna tell me about some new stuff that's going on.
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.880
We want to hear from the youth.
00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:45.120
And then when the youth aren't in a position to articulate it, to translate it, you like, okay, well, you can't explain it, well, I'm gonna leave it alone.
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.240
And it was like, it was just, it was, I felt like it was unfair.
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:49.200
Do I feel like it was fair?
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:50.080
No, not at all.
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:51.840
That's crazy that you said that, right?
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:59.360
Because I was gonna ask you, how do you feel about hyphen never becoming a genre, but it was also a movement.
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:05.920
And a lot of people don't understand the difference between hyphen never became a genre.
00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:22.720
So we have a lot of disconnection of expression towards things that not understand the terms of business because Crump became a genre, but hyphy never did, and it was due to, I feel like, not having the longevity of into the culture, you know, as a whole.
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.520
So how what is your take on that?
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.240
I think the subculture of hyphe is a drama.
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.640
But we have to also be mindful of hyphy wasn't just music.
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.840
Hyphe was like that nigga that woke up that morning and was like, bro, I'm on one, bro.
00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:41.280
Like at first, hyphy wasn't cool, bruh.
00:51:42.640 --> 00:51:44.160
Well, nigga was like, bruh, that nigga too.
00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:44.800
Hyphy, bro.
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:45.680
We cool, bro.
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:46.880
Like, bro, watch out, bruh.
00:51:47.040 --> 00:51:47.600
Hold on, bruh.
00:51:47.680 --> 00:51:48.320
Pull over here, bro.
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:49.680
Bro, the hella hyphy, bruh.
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.560
Hyphee was the young nigga walking in, you feel me?
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.840
McDonald's twisting his hair, like, bruh, y'all ain't got no.
00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:58.960
These suckers up in here, man.
00:51:59.040 --> 00:52:01.040
You niggas suckers, ah, strict one of you niggas, bro.
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.240
Like, hyphy was like, like, who?
00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:12.560
Sonny Bo, like, that was like a real, like, then was the, then was like, like Cred, Critty and them niggas was like hyfe.
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:19.280
Like, if you got a chance to know Cred and Damari, the Ghost Town niggas and the West Oakland niggas like that, them niggas was hyphy niggas.
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.680
Them niggas was niggas that was like, bruh, them niggas tripping, bruh.
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:24.800
You feel me?
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.920
Like niggas be like, bruh, them niggas tripping, bruh.
00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:33.760
Like Cred was like Credit is who made people, people say whatever they want to do.
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.360
Like, ghost riding came from a nigga, Critty Bo.
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:38.480
You feel me?
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:39.840
That was suicide though.
00:52:40.160 --> 00:52:40.720
Go thing.
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:42.160
Come on, ready bo son.
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:43.360
Like, you feel me?
00:52:43.520 --> 00:52:51.360
Like, like that was like Cri would pull up to tech in the in the blue van and jump out and just be dancing.
00:52:51.440 --> 00:53:01.520
It's a black ass nigga, man, with hella gold teeth in his mouth, and he was with the baby fro, and he was like, he was like the epitome of like, nigga, that's a town nigga.
00:53:01.600 --> 00:53:02.080
You feel me?
00:53:02.240 --> 00:53:04.080
He was just, he'd let the van ride.
00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:06.080
He had, you know, he was a young nigga.
00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:07.520
He represented culture.
00:53:07.600 --> 00:53:08.800
He was like, he was everything.
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.960
He was like, nigga, all the ghost town niggas was like, he was like they logo.
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.880
He was the logo for the for the young ghost town hiking niggas.
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:21.520
He was like, nigga, yeah, yeah, come up, yeah, ghost, yeah, yeah, West Stonkly.
00:53:21.680 --> 00:53:24.720
And and that was like, that was ghost riding.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.760
That was like create.
00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:33.040
Originally, a real town nigga tell you ghost riding was when you used to steal bikes from Alameda and you ride, you feel me?
00:53:33.120 --> 00:53:35.600
You ghost riding this bike and you doing it like that.
00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:36.320
Like, you feel me?
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.000
That was like where you feel me.
00:53:38.240 --> 00:53:40.720
And then niggas start doing their car like that.
00:53:41.360 --> 00:54:08.480
So yeah, man, like hyphy was like, I feel like I feel that if you have if if genre is here when we talk about hyphy, if hyphy the genre is here, then hyphy the lifestyle has to be up here because there were certain people who made music with he cadence.
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:17.920
He language, hyphy words, and things like that.
00:54:18.560 --> 00:54:21.680
But they didn't exude the lifestyle.
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:23.920
Like you can emulate it.
00:54:24.240 --> 00:54:31.120
You can emulate it by, oh yeah, let me okay, so we say this, we say this, we say this, and that's a hype song.
00:54:31.600 --> 00:54:39.280
Nah, that's just, you know, that's you're you're you're just you're pumping up with the the the cadence and you're forcing it.
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.760
Hypey was like a it was like a lifestyle.
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:45.520
It was like thinking, ah, like this, bruh, really hella hypey, bruh.
00:54:45.600 --> 00:54:47.120
Like blood really, you know what I'm saying?
00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:52.000
And then the the the the soundtrack to it was when y'all pull up.
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:56.640
When we pull up in the yellow bus with 20 deep and we bouncing out, and you feel me?
00:54:56.720 --> 00:55:01.600
Or when we at the club and we do kicked out the club and they say, bruh, don't perform that song, Fab.
00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:03.360
Every still activate some different stuff.
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:04.720
Please don't perform that song.
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.760
And I still perform it and we get kicked out of the spaces.
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:08.640
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:11.200
When we at the side show, it like, you know what I'm saying?
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.880
Like, I couldn't do a song about the side show if I wasn't at the side show.
00:55:15.040 --> 00:55:15.920
Like, you know what I mean?
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.640
Like, you know what I mean?
00:55:16.720 --> 00:55:20.400
Like we at Beacon, we at McDonald's, we at the we were there.
00:55:20.560 --> 00:55:21.520
So we was kids.
00:55:21.600 --> 00:55:22.880
We just was telling our story.
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.960
We just was talking about stuff we saw.
00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:26.480
When I, when I, you know what I'm saying?
00:55:26.560 --> 00:55:33.440
When I when I talked about, that's why I tell people, I'm like, bro, that could never get old because those memories that stick with us for a lifetime.
00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:36.160
That was some of people's brightest moments of their life.
00:55:36.240 --> 00:55:42.400
It's like hyphy to us is like the summer of love in 69 for hippies.
00:55:42.720 --> 00:55:46.400
It's a time where you go back and you'd be like, bro, you could never take that away from me.
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.280
That was some of the most fun that I ever had in my life.
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:50.320
I was free.
00:55:50.560 --> 00:55:52.000
The music was expressive.
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.840
I was able to, I was, I lived everything that they was talking about.
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.680
They was talking about my lifestyle.
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.200
The blue jeans, the white T's, and Nikes, that's what I wore.
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:02.320
You feel me?
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:03.200
We was going dumb.
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.760
We was like, you know, certain niggas and nigga, all three smackers.
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:06.400
Like, you feel me?
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:07.680
Nigga, oh, he owned what.
00:56:08.080 --> 00:56:09.600
It was everything in it.
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:11.200
That was like, that was his life.
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.840
Those were times where they'll never get that back.
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.800
Niggas didn't have kids, niggas didn't have no responsibilities.
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:19.360
They was just like, bro, we was young, wow, they're free.
00:56:19.600 --> 00:56:21.600
And that's why I say it was a lifestyle.
00:56:21.680 --> 00:56:25.600
It was a time that I don't care who likes it or who never.
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.960
There are people that always want to go back and visit that happy place.
00:56:29.600 --> 00:56:38.800
So we'll always have a space in life because somewhere, some somebody wants to go back to those times where they didn't have a care or concern in the world.
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.160
They just was free.
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:46.000
And and and the music at the time that we was doing gave us that vehicle of expression.
00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:49.520
It gave us that opportunity to be like, bro, I'm free.
00:56:49.680 --> 00:56:57.680
I'm laughing, whether for this three, four, five minutes when this song goes on, this tribal dance that I'm about to do, finna fuck it up.
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.240
Like I'm finna turn it, I'm in this is tribal.
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.640
You gotta think the Brookfield is tribal.
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:03.520
Right.
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:04.640
You know what I'm saying?
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:12.880
Hitting that dance, like people, it was niggas that never been to Brookfield in their life, still to this day, who know how to do that dance, probably better than somebody from there.
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:13.600
Right.
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:14.160
Right.
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.760
Then you then if you really was at the house parties, you knew the difference between the Brookfield and the 10th Street.
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:20.960
It was like, you know what I'm saying?
00:57:21.120 --> 00:57:22.560
This was like, you know what I mean?
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:27.440
Seeing Lonnie and Lil' Lucas and Deacon and these niggas was at the house parties.
00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:31.520
Seeing Jay Stalin pull up on the bike with Sid and Jazz.
00:57:32.080 --> 00:57:33.600
Like, I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:34.480
We was there.
00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:36.960
Like it was some poignant figures in those times.
00:57:37.040 --> 00:57:40.480
I was like, you know, MA pull up in the candy wine thing.
00:57:40.560 --> 00:57:42.720
And he's like, yeah, that's anything MA right there.
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:43.760
Like, you feel me?
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:44.720
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:50.400
This when he had spot smashers, this when he turned, this when Shady was like, you know, Shady was a hooper.
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.760
So, but Shady started, you know what I'm saying, you know, he front of corn.
00:57:53.920 --> 00:58:01.360
So when they start doing the spot smashing, him, Tank, Lil Tim, and you feel me, it's like, damn, them niggas like, you know, watching that.
00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:05.120
Like, this is the that was what our light was, you feel me?
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.080
Wheezy, Crid, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:11.360
You go to 9-0, you see niggas outside, like you feel me?
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.840
This one, you can ride by a spot and do this one.
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:16.880
Now he sign.
00:58:17.120 --> 00:58:26.880
When the nigga pull up and be like, hitting the dirt roll, going to 7-1, going to hitting a red fence, like that was, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:28.320
Come on, bro.
00:58:28.560 --> 00:58:33.360
So when people talk bad about it, I'd be like, bro, you must have didn't like your childhood.
00:58:33.600 --> 00:58:33.760
Yeah.
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:35.600
You must have done like, well, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:37.360
There was times that was sacred to us, bro.
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.320
That was like, it was some real amazing times, nigga.
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:48.560
Hyphy trains and pulling up, like, nigga, again, what four o'clock in the morning on whistle tips, home base, side shows, pack and save.
00:58:48.640 --> 00:58:49.200
Like, you feel me?
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.440
There was times, bro, they could never take from us.
00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:53.760
Like Flip said, Bernie Mac on a butter rim.
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.120
They can't take who we was, yeah.
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:56.320
Can't take it who we was.
00:58:56.560 --> 00:58:57.360
Like, you feel me?
00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:58.320
That's some times, bro.
00:58:58.400 --> 00:58:59.600
Remember the Titans.
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:01.040
Well, I ain't gonna lie, bro.
00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:03.680
The way that you elaborate, you expire, babe, bro.
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:05.040
You can make parts, baby.
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:05.920
See that shit?
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:07.520
Especially if you was there.
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:11.600
A lot of times, bro, when niggas be breaking shit down, bro, you can be, you can feel the lie.
00:59:12.080 --> 00:59:12.880
Come on, bro.
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:14.960
Shit, you made it so clear, bro.
00:59:15.680 --> 00:59:17.360
Bro, you had red line sluggers, bro.
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:18.720
This way, you and you feel me.
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.680
Bro, remember you had the with the red line, bro.
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.040
Y'all came out, you feel me?
00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:27.040
Bruh from Vegas was, you feel me, but putting the money behind y'all.
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.240
Y'all was on one, y'all was busting moves, fat man.
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:31.040
Come on, bro.
00:59:31.200 --> 00:59:32.640
I remember it like yesterday, bro.
00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:35.680
Then the the uh the lesbian, what was her name?
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:36.960
She was there.
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.120
Damn, I can't think of her name.
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:41.040
But we was all, we was kids, bro.
00:59:41.120 --> 00:59:42.160
We was there, bro.
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:42.480
Man.
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:44.560
We did the song, you feel me?
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:53.040
I be I be telling people, like, bro, like the crazy part, bro, I was blessed to do music with you at the height of your career.
00:59:53.200 --> 00:59:54.400
Come on, for real.
00:59:58.160 --> 00:59:59.040
Come on, bro.
00:59:59.200 --> 00:59:59.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:00:00.080 --> 01:00:00.960
That's a new one for me.
01:00:01.040 --> 01:00:01.920
I never knew that.
01:00:02.080 --> 01:00:04.640
I produced that the where you from, that yellow bus.
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:05.200
Yeah.
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.640
I produced the one with Kika on there, the one with Ryder on there.
01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:10.400
I never knew that.
01:00:10.560 --> 01:00:31.520
And it was crazy, bro, at the time, and it was fresh when Dre was fresh, like you said, he was fresh past, you know what I'm saying, and creating an or with these young men and, you know, be able to fight and defend with some of the best at the time because it's like, damn, y'all was giving us opportunities to be on stages and perform.
01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:33.600
We was holding it down, you know what I'm saying?
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:39.200
And I can actually say that we was then there performing before a lot of these people were, you know what I'm saying?
01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:43.280
Had mixed and master music at a young age, you know?
01:00:43.520 --> 01:00:46.480
And it was crazy how I ended up getting y'all some shit.
01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:56.480
So it's crazy because I had hit for 20,000, and I told Fat Man, I'm like, uh, I need Fat Man Kick on some shit.
01:00:56.560 --> 01:01:01.600
So he like, man, you come up with that 20 bands, I'll match you with the other, you feel me?
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:05.600
So we got you, Kick, Ryder, all the shit, you feel me?
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.560
And it was crazy because it was like, I always see you anyway.
01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:12.720
You coming to the hood, we fucking with you in the hood.
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.200
So it's like, damn, now from fucking with a nigga in the hood.
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:18.400
I'm saying Fab be one of the biggest artists in the world from our side.
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.320
Now I'm actually getting to do production with this nigga on it, and I'm rapping on it.
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.040
You know what I'm saying?
01:01:23.120 --> 01:01:26.080
So it was, it was a monumental thing, bro.
01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:31.360
And you know, just to see that shit safe forward, it's it's it's a blessing, bro.
01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:46.000
You know, and to see you transition into the penmanship and writing platinum records and exploring other, you know, great options to creating a clothing line with you and Crip and, you know, your other brother in Dubtake, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:50.640
And even having Kinsey involved with the, you know, the Dumpear magazine, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:55.760
RP the Cuz, man, you know, left was at a monumental crazy time, you know.
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.080
And I'm just sitting back, just hearing you talk, bro.
01:01:58.160 --> 01:01:59.120
I'm just thinking about a lot.
01:01:59.200 --> 01:02:00.480
You took a lot of losses, bro.
01:02:00.560 --> 01:02:08.880
You know what I'm saying, from Doobie to News to fuck Keith to G Field to Man, bro.
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:14.320
You know, you I can say, bro, you you wear the crown on that as as heavy as you can, man, bro.
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.080
You know, the fucked up part is like we can do this shit for hours.
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.000
Yeah, we ain't even touch the grid of it.
01:02:20.080 --> 01:02:20.960
That's just the childhood.
01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:22.400
It's definitely gonna have to get a part two.
01:02:22.720 --> 01:02:23.760
You got so much, bro.
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:24.320
For real.
01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:26.480
We ain't even went past 2008.
01:02:26.560 --> 01:02:27.280
Yeah, we ain't went past.
01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:30.080
We hit 2000, we had 2009.
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:38.960
The commercials, your dealership with the Warriors, and you know what I'm saying, your relationship with Steph and CC Sebastian, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:39.520 --> 01:02:42.160
The things that you do for the community, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:49.760
That even the endeavors that you put your hand out there, so I feel like you put your hand out there so much sometimes that where I think you shouldn't, bro.
01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:56.560
Because sometimes people are not willing to accept things to where they never was born to raise to know how to be a team player.
01:02:56.640 --> 01:02:58.560
So they don't know how to desire those, you know.
01:02:58.880 --> 01:02:59.120
Sure.
01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:07.440
And the things that you have done for us, bro, sacrifices, bro, a lot of people probably wouldn't have killed themselves, bro.
01:03:07.520 --> 01:03:09.200
And I'm just being honest, bro.
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:19.600
Especially at the heart of a career, top of the moment, Radio Station Falls, City blaming you for all types of shit.
01:03:19.680 --> 01:03:24.960
It's almost like how the hammer of the hammer scrutiny, you know, and it's like stand and stand.
01:03:25.200 --> 01:03:26.080
What a coincidence.
01:03:26.160 --> 01:03:26.960
You know what I'm saying?
01:03:27.520 --> 01:03:34.240
It's fucked up how the real representation of Oakland that's really from Oakland always gets the sour part of the stick, you know what I'm saying?
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:40.000
And it's fucked up, but in my eyes, bro, you one of the biggest superheroes we got here, you know.
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:46.880
As men, we might not always agree with things, but we come to a common ground to understand, bro, I respect you and I love you, bro.
01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:50.720
As a brother, as a friend, as a man, and a peer, bro.
01:03:51.040 --> 01:03:57.520
You know, sometimes people take in personal endeavors over the endeavors that we all humans, bro.
01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:58.880
Humans make mistakes, bro.
01:03:59.120 --> 01:04:01.840
And only one can guide, can be the judge behind things.
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:08.800
And sometimes we try to judge each other by personal endeavors of things that we can't control.
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:15.840
You know, it's been a beautiful, beautiful journey, bro, just to see the things that you have created.
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:16.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:21.360
That you you have innovative and show people that if there's a will, there's a way.
01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:22.400
You know what I'm saying?
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:23.760
And not to quit, bro.
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:24.960
And it's easy to quit.
01:04:25.200 --> 01:04:29.200
But success is a choice, and you making a choice to keep being successful, bro.
01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:38.720
When it's it's easy to fold, when it's easy to, you know, have others turn their back on you when you probably want to turn your back on yourself.
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:40.080
You know what I'm saying?
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.640
Creating a beautiful family, family getting you a son, you know what I'm saying?
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:52.400
Just being around and creating a club for your mind with the legacy of your mind, you know what I'm saying?
01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:56.400
Being able to be on the monopoly board, you on Broadway with two endeavors.
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:57.520
How many people say that?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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That shit is dope, bro.
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You know, it feels good to see a person like yourself because it's fucked up, bro.
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But a lot of people need to start understanding.
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You like our Jay-Z, you like our Nipsies and shit.
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To be able to touch you and to see you on a daily basis, bro, I think people should take more heed to that shit, bro, because it's fucked up.
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We don't, we don't support our people and look at them like celebrities until they gone, bruh.
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But you are our celebrity.
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You are our founding members of where we look at our forefathers.
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You feel me?
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Like, and the appreciation, I think, should be appreciated, bro, while we have you here, bro.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Motherfuckers like to wait till people gone to just show them appreciation or acknowledgement.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And it's like, acknowledge the fact that, bro, you circumference things that it was it might have been unbelievable for those.
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Yeah, man.
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Some of the things that you know, looking back in hindsight, bro, and some of the things I overcame, and some of the things that I've achieved, I just take it all with a grain of salt, man.
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And the reason why is hey man, when you become a parent, everything you're doing is just so your kids don't have to go through some of the struggles that you went through and you want to be able to pass on something to them.
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But the core reality about things, bro, is that in a hundred years, bro, nobody that knows you and nobody that you know will be alive.
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And history is not always for certain because the historians of the future may not agree with something that Actually happened and they'll tell it how they want to tell it.
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It'll become his story.
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That's why it's imperative that we document our lifestyle.
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We we we we we do things like this.
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We write literature and books.
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I got a copy of my new book for you.
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I brought it in here.
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And you tell as much of your story as you possibly can because, like I say, man, in a hundred years, just a hundred years, which is not long.
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When we talk about how long this world and life has been going on, in a hundred years, no one will know who you are.
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And that's the cult reality.
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Like anybody in here, do you know your great-grandparents' parents' name?
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Yeah.
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I do.
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Your great-great-grandparents' parents' name.
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Yeah.
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So two generations removed.
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Yeah.
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That's dope.
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Oh why?
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Because like, oh yeah, why need it?
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Like that's a that's a beautiful thing.
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Like, because if you ask somebody like me, like, you you don't know your your great-great-grandparents' name.
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That's crazy.
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Like, what was your great-great-grandparents' mother's name?
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And we don't know.
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And that's not that long ago.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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That's not that long ago.
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And so I say that to say, when a person asks me, is legacy important?
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And it's all a grain of salt, bro.
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Like, live your life.
01:07:59.520 --> 01:08:00.960
Do what it is that you want to do.
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Experience, laugh, love, cry, enjoy.
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Tell people you love them.
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Tell people, you know what I'm saying?
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Forgive.
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Forget.
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Do what you gotta do, you know what I'm saying?
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And don't let the pressures of life take life from you.
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A lot of people then crashed out and then failed to shortcomings because of just others.
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:25.279
And like, you know what I'm saying?
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I can't be your expectations of me, bro.
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I can't be who this person wants me to be.
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.279
I gotta live the life that I want to live.
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:37.840
I'm happy, I'm fruitful, I'm, you know, doing what I can do to become a better father, to become a better friend, a better listener.
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And and I'm just living, because at the end of the day, bro, at the end of the day, the day's gonna end.
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And it's gonna go on with or without you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's gonna go on with or without you.
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And your best bet is, man, prepare your children to survive life without you.
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Hopefully you can help them and prepare them financially, mentally, spiritually.
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But hey, man, if to, you know, to the believers and sky daddies, if there is a place, hey man, may you, may, may the work that you've done, may the the ultimate supreme being be pleased with.
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And you're allowed access to that.
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If not, your heaven is what you create here.
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Before we go, I got two last questions.
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I really got a million questions.
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What would you tell a young man of today that might have the talent, but don't have the desire due to the wrong lack of the influence that's courage them to go left, but with it with the life of music, maybe can change their life.
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I did a a lecture not too long ago, and I talked about rebels with a cause and rebels without a cause.
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This generation is more fearless than any generation that has ever been for our people.
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We don't care about white people.
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We don't care about, like, and when I say about white people, I'm not just talking about like, you know, I'm talking about the structure, the infrastructure of white supremacy as far as suppressors and oppressors and the rule of, you know, the man got me this way or the white man got me like this way.
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:20.400
Like many of our ancestors feared white supremacy as far as a control.
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Like, you ever get around some people that get to whispering on white people all?
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Like, bro, what's wrong with you, bro?
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Subconsciously, they've been, you know, indoctrinated into thinking, hold on, bro, I can't, you know, I I can't let them hear my intrusive thoughts.
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And so we've we've been in fear.
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We've been in fear for, you know, the rumors and the kinds of the stories that we heard our grandparents tell us that they used to hang them.
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And, you know, them being a superior being and a superior race in our mind sometimes still stays there.
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So a lot of people, but this generation, they don't fear that.
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They don't fear religion.
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:56.720
They don't fear nothing.
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Like they're the most fearless generation ever.
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And that can be very detrimental.
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If not curated correctly, like you can be a rebel without a cause.
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That means you're just a monstrous.
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:19.680
Like you're you're you're tearing everything up.
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You're a walking demolition team.
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But if you give that same fearless young man and young girl a cause, something to stand for, something to fight against, something that has restrictions, boundaries, and guidelines, and you give them that, they'll go on to be the greatest creators of our time.
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Keewee Newton was 19 years old.
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Bobby Seal, Bobby Hutton, they were teenagers and they created a cause.
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They created a cause for the obstruction of what black men were going through and the scrutiny and being ostracized and marginalized just for being black.
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And they said that they were going to take a stand against that.
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They created self-defense classes, they created self-educational classes, they created emotional wellness groups, they created feeding, they created something at a young age that gave them a cause.
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.440
And they'll continue to go out, and they made history as teenagers.
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Fearless, young teenagers.
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:35.280
But then when the power structure began to become too big, they were divided.
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:55.520
And the technology that the government used to divide them was so decisive that no one, it was so divisive, no one could expect a teenager to deal with the AI technology that they had at that time, where I can call you and it make it seem like I'm somebody else.
01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:57.760
Like, yeah, man, you know I got your wife.
01:12:58.400 --> 01:12:59.360
Like, you know what I'm saying?
01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:05.600
Now it was like you, I'm gonna put uh Carmichael against Elders Cleaver, I'm gonna put Bobby against Huey.
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:11.360
I'm gonna put Huey against uh uh uh uh uh Butchie.
01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:18.240
I'm gonna put Bunchie against Fred Hampton, and I'm gonna divide all of the leadership and I'm gonna make everybody, and now you got corruption.
01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:21.039
Now you got, I'm gonna say that, you know, Dr.
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:27.440
Angela Davis was this, and Sister Elaine Brown was this, and now you have corruption.
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.240
And that's how we watch the Black Panthers fall.
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.720
Our young kids are now in the same position to be that fearless.
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:41.199
So to group it and around it around, because I don't want to, you know, the the question is find you a cause.
01:13:42.240 --> 01:13:46.560
Find you a cause and dedicate your everything to that cause.
01:13:46.720 --> 01:14:08.720
And if you truly believe in that cause and you create a work ethic and you create a blueprint and a guideline that can help you move towards the trajectory of where you want to go in life and you see yourself continue to move forward and you're taking steps, whether it's slow steps, big steps, small steps.
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:14.640
If you can say, I may not be where I want to be, but if I look back, I'm not where I was.
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.600
So that means that there is forward progress.
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:19.520
Keep moving forward.
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:23.600
At 44 years old today, I'm not where I want to be.
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:33.440
But I have so much travel distance from where I was, and I'm not gonna let nobody take that from me.
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:40.400
I'm thankful, I'm grateful, but I'm still focused on getting to where I want to be.
01:14:40.480 --> 01:14:42.400
And who knows where that is.
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:50.480
But I know it's on a path that I started carving out a long time ago, and I'm still there.
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:55.760
I look at Quincy Jones didn't write thriller until he was 55 years old.
01:14:56.320 --> 01:15:00.159
One of the greatest songs that has ever been composed.
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At 55.
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So that means I still I'm there.
01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:10.720
As long as I stay close to my dreams, I could pull something off a dream tree.
01:15:11.360 --> 01:15:14.960
So stay close to the dream trees, man, to pull some fruit off of it.
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Do everything that you know we have to do, we'll do max wealth later.
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.560
It's easy to have peace in a peaceful place.
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.199
But can you establish peace in the times of war?
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.480
Can you establish peace in the midst of your worry?
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:38.880
Can you create peace when everything is uh chaotic?
01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:42.159
And then how would you describe peace?
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What is peace to you?
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My mental wellness and my mental health is something that it's a daily battle.
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:52.400
It's a daily struggle.
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:54.640
I fight anxiety extremely hard.
01:15:55.280 --> 01:15:59.840
There's seasonal depression around the holidays.
01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:07.600
I'm condensed, I'm super because I get to miss in my mom, I get to miss in my family members.
01:16:13.360 --> 01:16:17.840
And that's that's a mental game alone in its own.
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.680
Cause none of us know what's beyond this realm.
01:16:22.240 --> 01:16:22.880
You know what I mean?
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.079
And and knowledge curses you with clarity.
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:32.400
Because as you get older, you begin to be like, Yeah, right.
01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:35.360
Like, this, like, this is it.
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:36.560
Like, you know what I'm saying?
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:45.440
Like, you, you know, we want to have hope that there's a Disneyland in the sky, but you know, the reality of it is, hey, bro, you got one shot.
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:48.640
You know, create this habit while you're here and live life.
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.840
So there's a multitude of mental challenges that we go through.
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:54.720
I know me personally, and I'm not afraid to admit it.
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:56.079
Even parenting.
01:16:56.240 --> 01:17:00.079
It's easy to parent a kid when they gonna say yes, daddy, to everything you do.
01:17:00.400 --> 01:17:03.360
When you're able to tell him, you know, do this, do this, do this.
01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:07.199
But when they start telling back, start talking that you're like, damn.
01:17:07.440 --> 01:17:12.320
You know, the worst thing that a person can do is treat his daughter like a bitch he used to fuck with.
01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:15.760
This is just reality.
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.680
I know some of my niggas who treat their daughters like chicks they used to fuck with.
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:24.800
Like, damn, my nigga, like, nah, man, I bitch acting like her mama, let her, bro.
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:26.320
That's your daughter, bro.
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:28.079
I don't give a fuck.
01:17:28.400 --> 01:17:30.079
Emotional immaturity.
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:37.119
So being able to have the mental fortitude to stay down and parent your daughter, not just saying, oh, you 18, you grown, you on your own now.
01:17:37.199 --> 01:17:38.560
Nah, this till it's over.
01:17:39.360 --> 01:17:41.440
I parent till death do its part.
01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:43.600
You feel me?
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:44.800
For real.
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:46.720
Till it till it's a wrap.
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:47.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:49.600
You know what I mean?
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:51.039
I ain't finna, oh, you on your own.
01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:52.560
No, I ain't on your own.
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Not while I'm alive.
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:55.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:17:56.079 --> 01:18:10.800
Being there and being there for your kids, being there for your son, and you know, not knowing how, you know, to to wanting to be the father that you wish you had to your son.
01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:12.000
And, you know what I'm saying?
01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:17.360
Loving on your son with and and and not, you know, it's emotional, bro.
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:21.680
So these are a lot of things that help, you know what I'm saying, with your mental health, bro.
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:24.240
It ain't always, you ain't gonna always figure it out.
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:31.440
Then after you've been maintaining a certain lifestyle for so long, and certain things start changing, and now you gotta make adjustments.
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:34.000
Now you gotta trim the fat around certain things.
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:39.039
Imagine being able to do certain stuff for so long, and now financially that ain't available no more.
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:41.360
So now you can't, now you gotta make adjustments.
01:18:41.440 --> 01:18:45.039
Now I ain't gonna say, hey man, life is serious, bro.
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:54.640
And and and and like I say, people wear that mask, and very seldomly do you see people of influence be as open and transparent.
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.360
They don't, they, they, they, they make it seem like everything is transparent, everything is good.
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:03.840
Like you may see a person like me, and you be like, chilling, bro.
01:19:04.240 --> 01:19:08.560
You got a club, you got a store, you got wool, you got Lamborghinis, you got Maybex, you got all these other, man.
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:10.000
That shit don't mean nothing.
01:19:10.320 --> 01:19:10.640
Shh.
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:14.320
Other bill, another nothing but a bill, nothing problem.
01:19:14.480 --> 01:19:18.480
And another nigga who might be thinking you more than what you is and want to do something to you.
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:20.079
Just cause.
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Like, damn, bro, like, you might say.
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.000
So, hey man, I I keep prayer in my life.
01:19:28.240 --> 01:19:30.240
I keep meditation in my life.
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.240
But the greatest recipe that I feel like that has helped me is love.
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:38.400
That's the greatest recipe that a man can keep in this game is love.
01:19:38.480 --> 01:19:41.520
Even if it's just love for self.
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I love me so much that I won't allow myself to fall out over some.
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You got that.
01:19:48.240 --> 01:19:49.600
You get me, you feel me?
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:52.000
If it was that important to you, you got that.
01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:53.600
And I walk away, man.
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:55.920
I, you know, I'm they I'm not holding no grudges.
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.039
I'm not mad at nobody.
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.720
I'm not I'm not mad at the person that gave my daddy AIDS.
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.840
I ain't mad at, you know, good.
01:20:04.320 --> 01:20:07.680
I ain't I ain't I ain't I ain't mad at good, you know.
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:11.920
The radio station that was responsible for me missing out on millions in my life.
01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:15.039
I ain't mad him for the niggas that jump shit.
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:16.560
I ain't mad.
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:24.159
My deepest wounds came from people I love.
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.119
The hate that I received come from people I did the most for.
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:37.840
The niggas that hate me or the niggas that that go out and say ills on my name, I'll never tell you about the help that I gave them.
01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:40.720
I'll never tell you about the position that I put them in.
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.760
Even if it was just advisory.
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I'll never talk about that.
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.600
Deepest gashes come from people who I would have given a knife to cut something else for.
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:55.039
I didn't know they was gonna cut me.
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But it is, but it is.
01:20:58.480 --> 01:20:59.039
I'm still here.
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:00.400
I'm thankful, I'm grateful.
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.039
And I got equity in my name.
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.600
I got equity, so that means with that, I still got value and I'm still moving forward.
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:15.360
And if they feel like they seen the best version of me yet, think again.
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:19.760
Because it's all new shit that's been around and unspel till they end.
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You feel me?
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:23.199
I'm gonna come on, flood, man.
01:21:23.280 --> 01:21:24.159
Part two coming soon, man.
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We can get back and schedule it up.
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We wanna thank, you know what I'm saying, our sponsors.
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I forgot to give our sponsors a shout-out, man.
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Shout out Cookies, you know what I'm saying?
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Shout out Big Fan, shout out Evelyn Jones.
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You know, we had an extraordinary guest today, a legend, a boss himself, you know what I'm saying, live in the flesh, man, Mr.
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FAB, man.
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Thank you for giving us the peer you, you feel me, and the Le Vaughnaboy's side.
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You feel me?
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A lot of times, like you said, people get in places to where they're higher than with their the outside sale is just knowing that we're human, you know?
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And I love the fact that, bro, you always keep it all the way 1,000, you feel me?
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Regardless of how a motherfucker may feel and what a motherfucker may be going through at the time, you feel me?
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You keep it all the way thorough, bro.
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And like I told you earlier, bro, stop lending your hand always to these people because everybody ain't a friend.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Some things is just a business thing, but some things business ain't meant to be done, you know.
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Keep putting on for our city, bro.
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Keep changing lives, bro.
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Keep helping people that don't even know to help themselves, but just giving you encouraging words might make them up to help themselves.
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You feel me?
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Thank you for even helping my son at the time and at the beginning of the hottest career, you know, being there for me and him the same way when we was coming up, you know, and just being an uncle feather, you know, being a shit bonus dad at times, you know what I'm saying?
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And just being there, and I appreciate that too, you know what I'm saying?
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Because I don't give a fuck if y'all fuck with me.
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Fuck with my son.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And that's that's just how I be feeling about it.
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And I thank you and those that really fuck with my son.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because a lot of times we don't get those situations, you know what I'm saying, without it being a blur, you know, and I can honestly say, bro, you always been there for me and him, regardless if I took anything personal or not.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because, like you said, one thing as a parent, all you got is them, and they all they got is us.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And bringing them into a game at a young age was always a or that I had to understand this is a man's sport, you know, and putting them in a man's sport as a child, develop a young man at a very young age to counterquarry the shit that we call entertainment and and and music and rap and the culture, and you know, just having people like yourself that that gave him the mentality to keep pushing, you know what I'm saying?
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And it's like, man, I thank you for that, you know, because me being there one point, but having a peer foundation around him would keep him glued, you know?
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Because as a parent, sometimes you only hear one side of the story and they only take in one side of it.
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And it'd be like either he trying to make my career or break my career.
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But just to have a karate of people that care like I care, but might do it in their own way, it's still a loving factor.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I appreciate you for that, bro.
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You know, just just being here.
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Man, that's my baby, man.
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Like you say, man, it's I love dude, man.
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Like, I and I just to me, he always been a star.
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He always been, you know, and just watching him grow up.
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And, you know, he texted me the other day and told me some stuff, and you know, I don't know if he went public with it yet, but I was just like, what?
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Like, damn, that's crazy.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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And but I I I I love that dude, man.
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And and I and I I I seriously believe that, you know, he has position and and the experience to take it to that next level.
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Still, currently, you know, he he people have been seeing him so long, but he's still relatively brand new to the rest of the world.
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And, you know, him not losing sight of that just to keep going.
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Ludie Doody, I believe in you.
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I I've always has believed in you, and I'm gonna always be a supporting factor in your life to continue to keep mush moving forward in everything that you do.
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And uh, you know, that's my word.
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Like I say, regardless of where we are and what we do as men, as brothers, as friends, our commitment to them children, something totally different.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Totally different.
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Yeah, and like I said, I'm a parent until death do me part.
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When I take on somebody like that, like you say, them them second dads, and you know, them uncles be like dads.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Sometimes them uncles be the dads that you never had.
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And they the uncle and the dad could be saying the same thing, but he'll listen to the uncle a little bit more because he's gonna say dad just dad's.
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So, you know what I'm saying?
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But you know, just hey man, we want the best for our children.
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Let's continue to keep going, man.
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Wake that ass up podcast.
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Come on, wake your ass.
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You feel me?
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Wake your game up, don't fuck your name up.
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You feel me?
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Come on.
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Get this picture with you, man.
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My bell for the back.