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Welcome back to Lars Larson Show.
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Imagine that.
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If a private company could tell you we are capable of lighting up the night sky for you on an on-demand basis, or maybe even on a regular basis, would you allow a private company to do that if they could take sunlight and make it light up parts of Earth that are ordinarily dark at that time of the day?
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I thought we'd talk about it with Gregory Wrightstone, who's a geologist, executive director of the CO2 Coalition in Arlington, Virginia, and the best-selling author of a very convenient warming.
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Good to have you back, sir.
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Well, I like convenient warming and I like sunlight, but this just doesn't make sense.
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They're planning to launch 50,000 giant mirrors in low Earth orbit to reflect sunlight into the darkened areas of the planet in order to power the solar panels that go out and stop producing electricity at dusk and don't start until dawn or after the next day.
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I had to read it three times.
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I researched it.
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It sounded like satire, something you'd read from the like the Babylon Bee or some of these other.
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And I but I looked into it and and it's a real proposal.
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But the first question you you I'm sure you had is what could go wrong?
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And there's there there are so many things.
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All kinds of things, right?
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Oh my lord.
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I mean, we've heard of them talking about geoengineering to block the sun, but here they're geoengineering to to to move it to the darkened.
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I mean, w we we have if there are people there are real problems with the people in the high latitude areas of Finland and Alaska that have when they have sunlight all day long during the the summertime, um you know, there are problems with that and they have to put up these uh sun blocking shades that block out you know, because it's it's light all day.
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And it's it's it's a problem.
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And it it it would block also would reflect sun from the earth where it needs it, like say crops, you know, our agricultural productivity would would decrease because of this.
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And uh I don't know about you, I uh uh we're we're our agricultural productivity because of increased CO2 and modest warming are breaking records year after year after year.
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Yep, true.
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Our our agricultural productivity is increasing at a greater rate than what our population growth is.
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So we're feeding, there haven't been famines in decades.
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Poor Thomas.
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Exactly.
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And but it used to be famines, they were the worst natural catastrophe there was.
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And there are reasons we we don't have to go into it, it's it's a topic for a different uh discussion, but there are reasons that famines are not occurring, uh, and it has everything to do with climate change.
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I mean, do you think, Gregory, do you think I'm talking to Gregory Wrightstone, who's from the CO2 Coalition, but also the author of a very convenient warming.
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Do you think most people realize just how desperate the existence of most human beings on planet Earth was until about 200 years ago?
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Yeah, and it's actually it's actually a shorter period than that.
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It's been it was the the ag Norman Borlaug's uh agricultural revolution in the early 1900s is really what started fueling this this uh agricultural productivity growth with the advent of nitrogen-based fertilizers and other things.
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Uh engineered food production we get as a bad rap, big but because we have modified uh corn, soybeans, and others, uh that combined with nitrogen, combined with the big thing is increasing CO2 in the atmosphere and warming temperatures.
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All of those things have allowed us to grow a lot more crops.
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Um and people you're right, before uh the advent of this, famines killed tens and hundreds of thousands of people uh in a uh annually, and we just don't see that anymore.
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The only time the only place we have hunger on earth today are are peop areas of war-torn areas where they can't get the food delivered to them.
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Either war-torn or Gregory, tell me if I'm wrong about this.
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Well, when you looked at Somalia during the Black Hawk down uh period, time period and during Clinton, that you had warlords who'd say, Oh, how do I control all these people?
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All you have to do is control breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and you can run the whole country.
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You don't even have to put a gun to somebody's head.
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Just say, if you want to eat, you're gonna have to do what I tell you to do.
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And it's used as a weapon against people, uh, you know, and oftentimes the weapon is put in the hands of the bad guys, the thugs, by the do-gooders in the rich countries.
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Absolutely.
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And and if you think about it, back if we look back through uh to the dawns, the beginnings of the great great civilizations, uh, each of those civilizations were brought down by famine.
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It was and the famine was caused not by increased warming, but by the cold periods.
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And see, each of the cold periods were accompanied by crop failure, famine, pestilence, and mass depopulation.
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It brought down great.
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So if you were Emperor Lars and you were in a warm period, you'd be fat and happy and safe because you could feed your subjects.
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But if you were Emperor Lars, uh, let's say going into the late Bronze Age collapse, it started getting cold, and crops failed, they came after you with pitchforks, and Emperor Lars would not last very long.
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He would be out.
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Greg, let's get back.
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I want to just go back to Reflect Orbital because I want people to know this is a serious proposal.
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This is a company called Reflect Orbital that wants to, they want an FTC approval.
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I don't know how the FTC got into it, to launch 50,000 mirrors into low Earth orbit that would then redirect sunlight, but it wouldn't be very precise.
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It would light up areas that are three to four miles wide.
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And you said the primary impetus for this is to just keep the solar panels producing?
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It sounds like it.
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Is it be is it not beyond I can't.
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I I still I've like I said, I read this three times and then looked at all the links, and it sure looks serious.
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I don't know who's who would give that a uh uh the thumbs up for to do it.
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I I I can't imagine anybody in the Trump administration that would be.
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No, I wouldn't think so.
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And you know, the over the years, I mean a couple of decades ago, I read somebody saying, hey, if we could put, you know, say a Mylar inflatable mirror up, you know, and and not put up 50,000 of them, they said, imagine if they were looking for a lost child in a forest or you know, or there were some other specific use.
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But this is talking about doing this on an ongoing basis, right?
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It is, it is.
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And uh if we before we before we run out of time, I have to share a story with you.
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Please do.
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Uh I I just got back from the 16th International Climate Uh Change Conference in Washington, D.C.
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We were the uh co-host of a CO2 coalition, and we had a a panel of young people that were that have that were alarmists that were scared to death, and they saw the light, and they were speaking, and these wacko uh earth-first people, they actually bought tickets that were 400 apiece.
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Uh somebody was buying them for them, and sat and got up and started screaming at the the first guy that did it, Dr.
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Will Happer, 86 years old.
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He immediately, he was sitting next to me, immediately got up and charged this young guy that was probably six foot two with his hat on backwards and pushed, started pushing.
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He showed us all up.
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This guy, and we said, Will, aren't you scared of of being uh uh confronted with with the assault?
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He says, No, I'm 86 years old.
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Let them bring me up.
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I would be glad.
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I I I want to go and testify about these people.
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And I looked over his wife and she just smiled and shrugged.
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Yeah, she says, that's Will, that's what he does.
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And uh he'll be 87 here in a few months.
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And he showed all of us, I'm not young, but he showed all these people other, he was the first one to confront this guy and start pushing him out the door.
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It was, I was like, it was crazy.
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Absolutely.
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That is Gregory Ridestone, who's a geologist, the executive director of the CO2 coalition in Arlington, Virginia.
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And Dr.
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Ridestone is right.
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Uh, all that extra CO2, we've got amazing agricultural production all over this planet, and that's a good thing.
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Welcome back to Lars Larson Show.
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Imagine that.
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If a private company could tell you we are capable of lighting up the night sky for you on an on-demand basis, or maybe even on a regular basis, would you allow a private company to do that if they could take sunlight and make it light up parts of Earth that are ordinarily dark at that time of the day?
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I thought we'd talk about it with Gregory Wrightstone, who's a geologist, executive director of the CO2 Coalition in Arlington, Virginia, and the best-selling author of a very convenient warming.
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Good to have you back, sir.
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Well, I like convenient warming and I like sunlight, but this just doesn't make sense.
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They're planning to launch 50,000 giant mirrors in low Earth orbit to reflect sunlight into the darkened areas of the planet in order to power the solar panels that go out and stop producing electricity at dusk and don't start until dawn or after the next day.
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I had to read it three times.
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I researched it.
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It sounded like satire, something you'd read from the like the Babylon Bee or some of these other.
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And I but I looked into it and and it's a real proposal.
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But the first question you you I'm sure you had is what could go wrong?
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And there's there there are so many things.
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All kinds of things, right?
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Oh my lord.
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I mean, we've heard of them talking about geoengineering to block the sun, but here they're geoengineering to to to move it to the darkened.
00:01:42.959 --> 00:02:04.480
I mean, w we we have if there are people there are real problems with the people in the high latitude areas of Finland and Alaska that have when they have sunlight all day long during the the summertime, um you know, there are problems with that and they have to put up these uh sun blocking shades that block out you know, because it's it's light all day.
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And it's it's it's a problem.
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And it it it would block also would reflect sun from the earth where it needs it, like say crops, you know, our agricultural productivity would would decrease because of this.
00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:31.360
And uh I don't know about you, I uh uh we're we're our agricultural productivity because of increased CO2 and modest warming are breaking records year after year after year.
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Yep, true.
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Our our agricultural productivity is increasing at a greater rate than what our population growth is.
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So we're feeding, there haven't been famines in decades.
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Poor Thomas.
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Exactly.
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And but it used to be famines, they were the worst natural catastrophe there was.
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And there are reasons we we don't have to go into it, it's it's a topic for a different uh discussion, but there are reasons that famines are not occurring, uh, and it has everything to do with climate change.
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I mean, do you think, Gregory, do you think I'm talking to Gregory Wrightstone, who's from the CO2 Coalition, but also the author of a very convenient warming.
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Do you think most people realize just how desperate the existence of most human beings on planet Earth was until about 200 years ago?
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Yeah, and it's actually it's actually a shorter period than that.
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It's been it was the the ag Norman Borlaug's uh agricultural revolution in the early 1900s is really what started fueling this this uh agricultural productivity growth with the advent of nitrogen-based fertilizers and other things.
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Uh engineered food production we get as a bad rap, big but because we have modified uh corn, soybeans, and others, uh that combined with nitrogen, combined with the big thing is increasing CO2 in the atmosphere and warming temperatures.
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All of those things have allowed us to grow a lot more crops.
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Um and people you're right, before uh the advent of this, famines killed tens and hundreds of thousands of people uh in a uh annually, and we just don't see that anymore.
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The only time the only place we have hunger on earth today are are peop areas of war-torn areas where they can't get the food delivered to them.
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Either war-torn or Gregory, tell me if I'm wrong about this.
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Well, when you looked at Somalia during the Black Hawk down uh period, time period and during Clinton, that you had warlords who'd say, Oh, how do I control all these people?
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All you have to do is control breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and you can run the whole country.
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You don't even have to put a gun to somebody's head.
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Just say, if you want to eat, you're gonna have to do what I tell you to do.
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And it's used as a weapon against people, uh, you know, and oftentimes the weapon is put in the hands of the bad guys, the thugs, by the do-gooders in the rich countries.
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Absolutely.
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And and if you think about it, back if we look back through uh to the dawns, the beginnings of the great great civilizations, uh, each of those civilizations were brought down by famine.
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It was and the famine was caused not by increased warming, but by the cold periods.
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And see, each of the cold periods were accompanied by crop failure, famine, pestilence, and mass depopulation.
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It brought down great.
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So if you were Emperor Lars and you were in a warm period, you'd be fat and happy and safe because you could feed your subjects.
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But if you were Emperor Lars, uh, let's say going into the late Bronze Age collapse, it started getting cold, and crops failed, they came after you with pitchforks, and Emperor Lars would not last very long.
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He would be out.
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Greg, let's get back.
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I want to just go back to Reflect Orbital because I want people to know this is a serious proposal.
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This is a company called Reflect Orbital that wants to, they want an FTC approval.
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I don't know how the FTC got into it, to launch 50,000 mirrors into low Earth orbit that would then redirect sunlight, but it wouldn't be very precise.
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It would light up areas that are three to four miles wide.
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And you said the primary impetus for this is to just keep the solar panels producing?
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It sounds like it.
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Is it be is it not beyond I can't.
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I I still I've like I said, I read this three times and then looked at all the links, and it sure looks serious.
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I don't know who's who would give that a uh uh the thumbs up for to do it.
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I I I can't imagine anybody in the Trump administration that would be.
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No, I wouldn't think so.
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And you know, the over the years, I mean a couple of decades ago, I read somebody saying, hey, if we could put, you know, say a Mylar inflatable mirror up, you know, and and not put up 50,000 of them, they said, imagine if they were looking for a lost child in a forest or you know, or there were some other specific use.
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But this is talking about doing this on an ongoing basis, right?
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It is, it is.
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And uh if we before we before we run out of time, I have to share a story with you.
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Please do.
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Uh I I just got back from the 16th International Climate Uh Change Conference in Washington, D.C.
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We were the uh co-host of a CO2 coalition, and we had a a panel of young people that were that have that were alarmists that were scared to death, and they saw the light, and they were speaking, and these wacko uh earth-first people, they actually bought tickets that were 400 apiece.
00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:38.480
Uh somebody was buying them for them, and sat and got up and started screaming at the the first guy that did it, Dr.
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Will Happer, 86 years old.
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He immediately, he was sitting next to me, immediately got up and charged this young guy that was probably six foot two with his hat on backwards and pushed, started pushing.
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He showed us all up.
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This guy, and we said, Will, aren't you scared of of being uh uh confronted with with the assault?
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He says, No, I'm 86 years old.
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Let them bring me up.
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I would be glad.
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I I I want to go and testify about these people.
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And I looked over his wife and she just smiled and shrugged.
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Yeah, she says, that's Will, that's what he does.
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And uh he'll be 87 here in a few months.
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And he showed all of us, I'm not young, but he showed all these people other, he was the first one to confront this guy and start pushing him out the door.
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It was, I was like, it was crazy.
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Absolutely.
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That is Gregory Ridestone, who's a geologist, the executive director of the CO2 coalition in Arlington, Virginia.
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And Dr.
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Ridestone is right.
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Uh, all that extra CO2, we've got amazing agricultural production all over this planet, and that's a good thing.
