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Speaker 1: What's good was good?
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Speaker 2: What ups muscle? You're checking out the Cruise Show podcast? Subscribe copters on the Cruise Show. Crazy right there, man, you got a lot of reasons to smile. My man.
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Speaker 3: Y'all y'all went crazy right worldwide? Yeah, yeah, they know, they know whatever. You've got some global status. Finally, right, talk to me popping Thailand. Really that's where it started. It actually blew up in Thailand. First, What that's wild?
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Speaker 2: How'd you find that out? Uh?
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Speaker 4: So, you know, just just my analytics and it was a kid in Thailand which is now my brother tsc Uh. He would just do videos to it, you know what I mean. He would just do videos every day with a chicken. And it start blowing up and I start getting hit ups, and I was like, you know what, I think I needed to go to Thailand and visit this kid. I jumped on the plane when they're visiting, took him shop and gave him some money, content with him and just showed him. And you know, he had never left his little space, so he changed his life. He didn't know he was famous.
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Speaker 2: Pathia.
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Speaker 4: And we were walking down the strip and everybody was just taking pictures with me and him and he had he had no idea.
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Speaker 2: It was famous. That's why that was my first time going to Nah. So we shared the experience together. For sure. I put him in the hotel room. He was That was probably the first time he's ever said and stayed and nothing is clean. Like he was tripped out from tripped out.
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Speaker 1: So he obviously experienced a lot of new things for himself, right, hotel rooms and whatnot. What's something new that you experienced in Thailand?
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Speaker 2: Just the lifestyle, just like, I just love the way it looks.
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Speaker 4: It's super like, you know what I'm saying, I'll be trying to thug it out, but trying to get in my little but it's beautiful out there, Bro, beautiful, It's beautiful, beautiful, you know.
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Speaker 2: And it's like I'm like, dang, you know, my music got me here. You know, I do my engineer myself.
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Speaker 4: So just me being at the crib recording this record in my bedroom and he got me to Thailand and it just motivated me and just turned my ambition and everything all the way up through the Yo.
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Speaker 2: Yah Yah took it there. Bro took y'all there and took him there. Yeah for real, that's crazy.
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Speaker 3: How they say one song can change everything, but there's there's no limit to what it could change.
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Speaker 4: The good thing about it is I've been hearing I've been big places for a long time, but the invitation one like yah ya. I think the invite happened when ya y'all happened, So I was already big places, and then the invitation was just like, Okay, now we can get him over here. He's worth the buck, I guess to get him here, so.
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Speaker 3: Ya ya ya ya yeah, man, and and and creating ya y'all was a process for you as well. He wanted to speed up the beat, you wanted to add a few things.
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Speaker 4: So I actually drove around with the with the sample for about a like probably like two days before I even expressed that I wanted to use it. She actually only says yeah y'all one time on the sample too, which is crazy. So I just heard it when she said and it was really slow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 4: I was like a screen recorded it, sent it to Steals like hey, and I said speed it up, and I just started doing the hook and that's all I had, and it just sonically just you know, like I'm a big fan of two thousands early two thousands, like that little mood, the little John thing, and it's what base pattern could we possibly add to this to get it going?
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Speaker 2: That way?
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Speaker 4: We can make it Bay Area, LA and Atlanta. So I just didn't want to go like a home team Cadence base pattern. I want to kind of like just just be open with it.
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Speaker 2: So oh yeah.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of science to the record for cit easy to clear. No, that was not beautiful. That was not beautiful.
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Speaker 2: The good thing about it is we're here, We're here now, We're clear now. And you know, like I said, God bless me, hey man, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know I saw a video where bow Wow was just praising yeah yeah, and it was like, yo, it hit the A and I knew it was different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I've been knowing Boo for a little minute, you know, but I actually did a makes the Money dance. We just never put it out. So bow has always been tapped in and bow said it reached the A. And when I tell you reached the A, we was in the club and it was singing it word for word in the A.
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Speaker 3: You did it like yeah, dog yeah, bro with AI being what it is, right, have you used aid to write lyrics or produce music, none of that nothing.
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Speaker 2: Do you plan on it or something you'll leave out or do you want to like touch on it? Pause?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah pause easy, Yeah. I wouldn't mind having a conversation. And also like I feel like, uh, it depends I use anything. I feel like everything is here in front of us to be used. But I don't want to take the natural. Don't just go to your chat GBT or AI and get lyrics. It's kind of crazy and then bragging Boston for the people like me to actually put the work in and say you better, or it's just a conversation you have. If you're using it to be an artist, is be an artist? Don't get cocky and start using it like you kind of you know what I'm saying. It's just all anything you do. Just be careful, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I think now the argument is AI is just like what auto tune was enhances?
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Speaker 4: I guess yeah yeah, But like I said, T Paint explain that he was like, I can do this without auto tune. Yeah, that's a texture that I allowed to be on my records, but hey, I can get to it this way.
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Speaker 2: Too.
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Speaker 4: This is all about your approach, you know what I mean? Now, what if t Paint talked like that he couldn't sing it all? Yeah, now we having a different conversation naturally, or lied about it, you know, lied about that.
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Speaker 2: That's my thing. You a, oh, I'll see where y'all going to leave me out of there? No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. Phoenix is our guy. That's my guy. He gave us the song to break. We broke it on this on this show. You know you love the song. It's not even about that. It's just I'm not mad at him doing it.
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Speaker 1: Use it.
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Speaker 2: That's for anything. If you're using whatever, right, it's like, just be upfront about oh, no, what it is.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: I think Tiger, like you know, explained it very well, I guess.
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Speaker 3: Or he did his his part in it, right. I think make sure that just said what it's you know what it was up front. But whatever, the song is a song and it's fire. I feel like he played his smart Yeah. I mean, he didn't want to shoot itself in the foot.
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Speaker 4: And he was just now he rolled it out. He was gonna deal with whatever came with it after that. Chin up, you know, what I'm saying, and U, I mean, you can't play with just their whole movement in general, the shore Line Mafia movement, you can't play with anyways. They got other hits outside of that. You know, this is just his his his his, you know, you know, I go, he got his his big one, and I salute that man. That man got to feed his family.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, Summer twenty six, Yeah, crazy project. Easy to make, Uh, very.
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Speaker 4: Easy with the music, but the mind state I was in and what I was going through at the time, No, I just got off tour and I was being pressured and we couldn't get certain samples cleared, and so all the records came easy. Was the behind that kind of got me. I went through something then sending my kid off to college. I felt empty at times while trying to make a party move. So I had to like I had to like tap into certain moments, like I had to like really really tap into certain moments, like especially being a part of the Blue Face tour, like with shows is popping how I felt at the time. So I really just like went inside myself when inside my body and found these you don't get me, They're all true events.
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Speaker 2: That's why it sounds the way it sounds.
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Speaker 4: But imagine being at home in the bedroom by yourself, trying to figure out, Okay, how you tap back into that vibe because I was going on tour for so long.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, all the red fields come across authentic. Yah.
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Speaker 5: Did you ever feel at one point discouraged because you were going through so much behind the scenes?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: Never.
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Speaker 4: Musically, I take things on as a challenge. I feel like other things discouraged me, but nothing that ever has to do with music.
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Speaker 2: I chose this.
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Speaker 4: I know what it come with, and this is what I'm gonna do, you know what I mean? And I take pride in you know what I'm saying. I can't take shots at all other rappers out here, but I like being known for music. I don't like being known for going to jail, having shootouts, being like, I like being known for music. You guys don't know me nothing but putting out music, and I always want to keep it. I don't try not to do no clout chasing on the internet or you know what I mean, go against my integrity as a man. I just like to be myself, So that's musically, I have no challenges but my life, we be having challenges because now we gotta we come from a city the w everybody wants to be the king, sit in the king's chair, run the city.
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Speaker 2: And I don't feel like that's what it's about. I feel like we got to Look.
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Speaker 5: That's a great mindset that you have, though, because it's so hard for like other rappers to get out of that mindset and to focus on the music own.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're being tricked. You gotta realize the Instagram is showing you these numbers go up when you do this. When you do this, it works, and that's all they know. This is the easy route. But the remember anything is the easy route can get you locked in.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of my homies got buzzed. There was buzzing.
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Speaker 4: Get eight year ten year centses like Bro, by the time you get out, it's gonna be over. You didn't have enough music and enough catalog for us to wait on you that long, you know what I mean. Shout out to Greto. Grido was blessing the situation. Greto is the man and he went so they was ready for him when he got out.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 4: How the people can't overcome that. That's a tough hurdle, man, It's a tough hurdle that you get forgotten.
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Speaker 3: And you know, music changes people's listening habits change, right, They become fans of other people, they grow up.
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Speaker 4: Their taste of music is not your music no more because they grew up all type of stuff and you didn't keep them occupied enough for them to stay around forever.
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Speaker 2: Is that why you know getting shot isn't necessarily a subject for you? No, that's why I never wrap about it.
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Speaker 4: I think I may have spoke on it one time on one of my records, but more like from a respectful place like I wanted. I wouldn't bragging about it. No, I didn't brag about it at all. I wanted you to know, like, this is what happened, and this is like, yeah, this is what comes with it. And I touched on that subject and that's what my heart felt, and I was done with it. I don't want to take that show on the road.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy, right, yeah, right, we don't want the energy on the road. Bro, you're trying to get homes done. I'm cool.
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Speaker 3: You'll heard about it, okay, cool, never heard about it? Heard about it because you got family to get home to. Your daughter is going to Howard, you know, university. Congratulation, big dog man, Hey, good job dad, thank you, good job. Any dad's in here, I'll salute you. Come on, man, stir it up.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 3: When I've seen it, because I've seen now when you started crying, I felt something too, Dog.
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Speaker 2: I was like, do this. This is proud of his baby man.
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Speaker 6: Man seen it from from from from jump though, right because he you know, from from before as.
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Speaker 2: A little girl to now.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like now, it's just wild to see that. And I always salute you as a father like the music, yeah you got hits, yes, but Bro, as a man, as a father, you you've always taken your hat to put her first. And I just want to make that, put that on records so people know, like, yo, it's you really one of the.
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Speaker 2: Ones for that now.
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Speaker 6: I always ask for advice forefathers, and I feel like you do a great job at that. So what dad, advice could you give to other fathers out there? That's kind of in a position of you know, being being as present as you are.
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Speaker 2: She's going to need you. She's going to need you in many ways that a woman, can't. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: Your protection, your love, your outlook is what's gonna make her go out here and fight and butt the world different. Eventually she's gonna fall in love with somebody. But let her fall in love with somebody, and she understands the quality of a person that she's going to be around, you know what I mean, And you set a good example of what that could be. You know, you let her know, don't sell yourself short for nobody. Put yourself first, because when she puts, she's so pure. Putting herself first is always going to be the lookout for us. That's how I live my life. I'm so pure. I don't be one of those people like let me get in the door first, and then I'm gonna take care of everybody like my people know that.
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Speaker 2: Like we reached it to a level where I'm so pure.
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Speaker 4: We know, if AV gets fifty million, everybody's straight, because that's just how I put my love out there like that.
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Speaker 2: So I just take for all the fathers out there.
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Speaker 4: Mama can do a lot, aunties can do a lot, Grandma can do a lot, but fathers can do a lot. And so she only got one. You remember that it's only won you and that's what it's designed for. Lead the way, right, Lead the way.
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Speaker 5: Were you like a little scared to have her go so far away?
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Speaker 2: Yes, Washington, DC?
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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, But I trust her and an understand her, and we had many conversations and she's excited, and I want to be excited for anything that she's excited for.
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Speaker 2: She's gonna do well, she's gonna be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
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Speaker 4: She's a lot different from you, different from me, No, she's exactly like no, yeah, it's to the point where we bump head sometimes.
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Speaker 2: She's exactly like me. She wants to do what she wants to do.
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Speaker 4: She's chosen and you know, she remind me of that fifteen year old boy that was like, well, mom wants you to get a job, but you're gonna be a rapper though, and it's like, how are you going to get into rap? We're gonna have to figure it out. And that's what she's going to college for, you know what I mean. I put her in every dance class, every ballerina, volleyball track, everything, spent my money for her to say, oh, I'm just gonna go to college for criminology.
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Speaker 3: But that's okay. But that's okay, you know, like you want your money, you want your money back to.
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Speaker 5: Drowning weekends.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, used to tell me what it was gonna cost for this session and the price. I used to be like, whoa just getting the car and tell her like, oh you gotta be a dancer. Yeah yeah, it cost me a lot of money if this is what we're doing. Yeah right, yeah, you know.
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Speaker 4: I get moms and mothers that come and be like, well, you gotta let her experience so she can choose what's costing the trial running the money is it? But I was blessed enough to to, you know, float around in this sport and make me something. And yeah, man, you know so I was. That was with ease, and I said I always wanted somebody to support me. So when I was doing I was smart, even though I was complaining a bit, but hey, I was in my heart, I was happy.
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Speaker 2: Now you gave her what you needed. Listen to that you gave her what you needed. For sure? You feel me?
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Speaker 3: Single mom, right, single mom raised you. That's gotta be tough. Absent father, You needed a dad? Yeah right, I'm sure you have father, figures right in the family, but like, well her mm she was just thugged out like that bro. And my mom didn't play it with it.
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Speaker 4: My mom was like, she ain't raising no punks, but she ain't raised no disrespect like towards no women either.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. She was just both of them.
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Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, Like when I when I started grew up, I was like, growing up, I was like, she's both of them. That's kind of why I never yearned for him or needed them or cared to have him, because she was both of them, you know what I mean. Even to the point where she was so young, she still would play mind games with us, like it's crazy if I tell I'm me to tell these stories off air, But she would prepare us for the world, and she would see how we react and what we was thinking, and we would do. She would take us in the car and be like, times is hard and we need to and then we kind of get all the way there, and she just she just wanted to see our characters, like if we was gonna be down for each other, and then she would stop us and laugh like, Hi, nah, but look that's cool. That y'all down for each other. And I see that y'all was ready to go because mom was going. But feel free to speak up and be like, naw, you want to do this and find another way too.
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Speaker 2: Also she was really like that, bro, like, yo, if you don't want to do this, you can you can say that.
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Speaker 4: This and that bled over to me and my friends X amount of years later and we was in our car mission It's like, look, I don't want to do this, so don't make me seem like I'm a punker buster. I'm going to go on this mission because I want to bring you home with me. I never ever wanted to do nothing that I ever done, but I'm going to go on this mission because my brother got to come back home today. That's right, my friend got to come back home today. And I wanted to establish that so they never could ex out my character and tell me x Y and Z. I kept all my homies on a good path growing up. I don't smoke, I don't drink, but I'm also not the loser. I'm the cool guy. I make you fay, Oh dang, you don't smoke or drink, man, I want to be like that. I just learned how to maneuver. I wouldn't even say manipulate, because that's it. We maneuvered things and showed you this is the actions, and this is how the people view you when you do the right thing.
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Speaker 1: Bro. That's right.
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Speaker 3: In some bad situations that we found ourselves in growing up, wherever we grew up, sometimes you had to manipulate a situation in order for a good outcome.
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Speaker 2: You know for sure. And that's kind of what I said in that song.
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Speaker 4: We asked me about being shot I said, I didn't shot at and been shot at, but I've been shot up too.
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Speaker 2: It's cool they got that.
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Speaker 4: It's like, this is the game y'all choose to play, and this is what comes with it. But I couldn't have came back, so I'm never going to do that again.
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Speaker 2: That was an easy mission for me. I already thought about it.
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Speaker 4: And now my homie standing in front of me today with four kids, and we was in the back going to back seat, going to terrorize some things.
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Speaker 2: And now he got four babies, all girls. Look God bless hey.
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Speaker 1: So what led to you not smoking or drinking?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 4: Just the I was short growing up. I got my height towards the end of high school. So playing sports was hard for me being so short. Growing up, I just wanted to be faster. I seen like the drugs and stuff taking a toll on my friends, making talent slower, more unaware and stuff like that.
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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to keep my sharpness. That's one. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And then I had a step father that was just the coolest until he indulged.
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Speaker 2: Oh I never want to be like that.
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Speaker 3: Nah yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll show you and teach you everything you need to know. So it just watch never started respect, you know, or at least like to be around, and then they switch.
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Speaker 2: Up on you.
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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm too cool, and then you catch me in that environment, I'm all messed up.
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Speaker 2: Like nah, man, that's kind of it's kind of whack. I have no excuses. This is what I do. Like you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: And you put some liquor in yourself and you say, oh, that wasn't me, No, that is you. It alerted you and got yourself. That's the real you.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious, what did you do for your twenty first birthday?
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Speaker 4: Spent it with my family, you know what I'm saying. The good thing about it is my uh my daughter was born and we was having a good old time. He's telling no, matter of fact, what's not love born? No, No, I think she was in the stomach. But yeah, me and moms was kicking it for sure. That was that was our whole thing on all our twenty first birthdays. My mom is like, we don't care, we diether. Y'all made it to twenty one. Yeah, Compton babies made it to twenty one, right, Yeah, for sure. Some man made it to twenty one. Well man made it to twenty one and Compton it's for real. Nah, Yeah, you step out of that face. You just felt like you're back on fire.
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Speaker 3: My boy, I'd be scared of going to the store spicely back then, Like, whoa, you're just going to the liquor store.
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Speaker 2: You go to the store to get you some liquors, some hot cheetos, and you ain't coming home. You're on the news now. I grew up one hundred and twenty fourth in Compton Avenue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that silence is everything right there, that second of silence right there, what it is.
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Speaker 2: I'm making it as a whole nother badge of honor whatever with.
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Speaker 5: Some of your song titles, obviously my dance net thirty. Yeah, yah, are you actually good with money?
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Speaker 2: I'm very good with money. I'm very good with money. I do those you saved.
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's how she had her college tuition before she had to pay her college. Yeah, that was already done in the tenth grade. She had that already.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but just I use those titles because I'm very good at those things. When the world chose dance songs, because dance is a fashion of we all like to dance in some type of capacity, in some type of place. Rather it's a loon, you get your boogie on. So I feel like dance is a really strong sporting hip hop in any genre. Yeah, and then what else do we all like? After love dancing? We love money? So I would love to just show you more. Ya ya is a product of that too, Like I wanted to show you that instead of saying money or saying the bag, you're getting to the yah ya.
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Speaker 2: So I just creake these little things. Yeah, you know, I was I was telling. I was like, hey man, I'm not gonna lie like I don't know what yah y'all is. She was like, what's everything?
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Speaker 1: She was like, I think it's pussy.
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Speaker 2: I said, I mean it might be. It's everything statue money. We yeah, that's what it is. So if you say thick little bit and she got some good yeah yeah, everybody broadcast niggas ain't getting no money. Just hit up that we.
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Speaker 5: I was on it.
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Speaker 2: You you were behind hey, But he told us the slogan is like, you know, you got people to say the little baby, that's my little ya ya. There's also grandma's that go.
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Speaker 4: By yeahah yeah, yeah yeah right, it's a fun word and babies can do it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I would have given a shout out to my brother OT Genesis too. I think OT knew something that we didn't too, because like we didn't know, came out and said the word Coco Coco.
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Speaker 2: Right. My kids loved it.
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Speaker 4: Thought it was hot Coco. No, they thought he was talking about hot Coco. The babies love hot, you know what I'm saying. But then you got the drug. They make the money off the but then you have the user that loves the He just did something special.
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Speaker 2: So when we heard his explosives, I was like, whoa.
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Speaker 4: And in the video too, the original video, he knew something that we didn't know, and that's why he's Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Let me add something to because I DJ weddings for a living, right, I feel like you got you got money dance obviously, and that's usually used for money dances for weddings, and then ot, then OT he got cut it, which I normally use for like cake cutting. Y'all got the wedding songs on lock.
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Speaker 2: Look that Look how that work. And that wasn't even the intention. It could be a part of people special days like that, right dope, man, that's all I do it for.
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Speaker 6: I would imagine with having hits like that. Man, you mentioned earlier about being pressured by the label to make projects. Is it even necessary nowadays to even do that when you're able to deliver hits after hit after hit, Like, what's talk about the decision to say, okay, I hear you out, let me go on and make a project as well.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 4: I never really care what they say. Yeah, that's never I never ever care what they say. They say a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: I just like whatever.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I agree, knowing I'm not going to do it either just to keep the relationship. But when it's time for me to do a project, it's like I'm looking at it like a Oh, you get a chance to express how you feel through a body of work instead of trying to jam it all the one so on you know what I mean, because if you try to, that's what I try to do on Yah y'a. Like I wanted to stay complete commercial on Yah y'all. But notice I started adding my cousins in my rallies.
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Speaker 2: I'm putting on big meat.
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Speaker 4: I like got off subject purposely to let you know I can rap, and then I'll go, sure's meean that thing like a tense speed.
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Speaker 2: I get back where we originally was at.
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Speaker 4: So the projects I can use the projects to I'm starting to realize I can use the projects to express and then use my singles to express where they need to be. And I kind of want to get away from putting street stuff in my commercial songs and my hit records smart and just go straight to doing projects again. That's the reason I came back to the project because last year, y'all wouldn't getting one for me, for sure, because they weren't listening. To be honest, true, nobody was listening. Nobody cared. That's just what this game does. First, they love you then they hate you, then they love you again.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: That is very true. I mean, you got to create the.
00:23:41
Speaker 4: Reason they love you again and understand at this time, who's your friends, who's your you know what I'm saying, associates and who just make the dial move And that's okay, it's all a business, you know what I mean. That was the hardest thing for me to learn because I'm so much.
00:23:54
Speaker 2: Of a realist.
00:23:55
Speaker 4: All the time, I thought everybody was being like me, and then you gotta go look at the the perspective of it's real.
00:24:03
Speaker 2: Me and Cruise is real. Ain't gonna be the same thing.
00:24:06
Speaker 4: Me and your really ain't gonna be the same thing because we share attachments to different mothers, grandmothers, daughters, brothers. So what's real to you may not be real to me, but it's very real to them mm hmm. And that's why this is a business. So I had to learn that aspect.
00:24:22
Speaker 3: It was very smart. Yeah, it's a good way to think. Many does that make you not trust anyone?
00:24:28
Speaker 1: No?
00:24:29
Speaker 2: No, Because.
00:24:32
Speaker 4: My grandmother would want me to be like that. What's for me is for me, and she always said that. My mama said, to this day she sounded just like her, what's for you is for you. You know what I'm saying. When people backstab you, that was just just what it is. Yeah, you don't got to go back and back to clear in the path, man. You know, I build on my character every day. I never retaliated ever.
00:24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, you going through that like those lessons and figuring out like the business aspect is like, Okay, you might take some losses in my hurt a little bit, but you got to keep it pushing.
00:25:03
Speaker 4: If I really wanted to tell him the truth in this camera, y'all gave me what I needed. I actually made it worse for yourself.
00:25:09
Speaker 2: Mm hmm that part. You gave me what I needed.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you touched on the eighties vibe too, huh Yeah, why not? That was that was a crazy time.
00:25:21
Speaker 2: That was a crazy time.
00:25:25
Speaker 4: Like when you look at movies, those are the most intriguing movies eighties and nineties, it's the best looks. They was clean, they was flying, no matter what they was. Yes, they dressed down, they was yeah.
00:25:37
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a moment, man, why not why not capture that again tonight and feel it?
00:25:42
Speaker 3: No, that's the way to go. Have a good time with the time of your life. Hell yeah, the regular life, That's what it is.
00:25:47
Speaker 2: That's why I named it. Time you saw the suit? You feel me? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, came down a couple of pounds, jumped in a suit too easy.
00:25:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told him. I was like, damn, I kind of like the figure got on right now? How did that link up.
00:26:03
Speaker 2: With a happen? Oh?
00:26:05
Speaker 4: Ace just hit me up like he wanted to do the y'all. You want to do something with y'all y'all? And I was like, go ahead, you know what I mean? He was like you a pull up on me?
00:26:13
Speaker 2: Yeah?
00:26:13
Speaker 4: Man, I watched you all season last year, and then you know, being able to meet these people, you can finally meet him when they're not.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: In character.
00:26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:26:25
Speaker 4: Ace is a real dude, you know what I'm saying. I took my friend with me right now, Like, Ace is a real guy. He was asking me questions. He actually told me, like, bro, listen to you growing up. Wow, Oh you don't know these things until you meet the person. You got any game you can give me with this baech because I'm gonna start pushing music and we just end up linking.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: He just called me. He said, I'm a pull up on you. I pull up on him. He come to the shows, I bring you out and it's just my brother. Now he good. That's it watching the show too.
00:26:53
Speaker 1: So what's the biggest difference you see from like Ace the reality TV star versus Ace like the artist.
00:27:01
Speaker 2: He's just misunderstood, you know what I mean.
00:27:04
Speaker 4: He doesn't He's not going to get on social media and just and just like and talk about his side because he's he's tired of defending itself. There's people like me now that I met my friend, y'all back up off Ace. Ace is a good guy. A lot of things that y'all seen on television was persuaded that way. Sometimes Ace didn't have nothing to do with that, and he just added ace face expression right there.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: All to do with Ace and it wasn't.
00:27:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we got to remember, at the end of the day, reality TV is exactly itself too.
00:27:38
Speaker 4: And then they come in here and say, hey, you need to spice it up a little bit, you need to do this, and you need to do this.
00:27:43
Speaker 3: Right, and you just like, don't they drop certain things off, like, hey, they were talking about you, you should ask.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Them about that.
00:27:51
Speaker 5: I think reality TV is always like from what like reality TV starts up explained, is like it's not scripted necessarily, but there's suggestion, there's suggestions, there's suggestions as to behind this.
00:28:03
Speaker 2: And we're just living in a time of clout. That's what it really is.
00:28:07
Speaker 4: Man, don't let nobody on that show for you and think they don't think they're gonna come out of that show. And they wanted to be at least a million followers too, million, right, Yeah, that's why they choose no put you on. I've always been a part of that. Like I grew up watching Real World, so Real World was was. I used to sit on the floor by myself. My mom used to be like, what is this weird stuff you're watching? And it was the first time I got to see like the streets of another world, right, like they show us beauty on television and this subway in this street is smoking and they walking.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: Down and I was like, damn, is that how New York looks? Or is that how Billy looks ery San Francisco.
00:28:52
Speaker 4: So it was a time for me to see that other places are real too, instead of thinking Compton was real.
00:28:57
Speaker 2: That's right, we know Compton is real. But saying that Compton is the only place that was real right now.
00:29:01
Speaker 3: To find out that there's a whole other world out of where you're from or where you live, it's crazy.
00:29:06
Speaker 4: TV did that for me too, showed me everything I needed to see. They show you beauty on TV. Man, it's beautiful on TV.
00:29:14
Speaker 2: Real world. I said, Oh, it's rats and stuff out there. It's real. The big rap. That's crazy. Yeah, so big ass rats.
00:29:24
Speaker 6: But before we wrap, I want to ask you this because a lot of people aren't privy to know that. You know, they hear y'all. Y'all, they hear the hits and they know you from that. But it's like it's a whole other world of Compton AV prior to that. Man, so talk to him about the pit and the battle rap days and then you transitioned from that to.
00:29:40
Speaker 2: Where you are right now.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: Just wanting to be heard, I was. I used to have a friend named CP. We stall had these names cp AV. I think we started the whole.
00:29:50
Speaker 2: The initial game.
00:29:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, because his name is Chris Phillips and CPI. I grew up on campon f so AV that's how we used to just do it, you know what I mean? So, and then my mother was ourselfs PG. Now it's funny, but because her name is pretty gangster. But we just do this little thing. But I went to a rap battle. I didn't even know it was rap battle. I just went out with him one night and it's pretty girls in the.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: Buildings, a vibe. Hey you got me. I think we're gonna have a party.
00:30:17
Speaker 4: And then my name get called to the stage and he gives me that quick twenty seconds you always want to wrap to me, wrap to somebody else, do back off, get going go.
00:30:27
Speaker 2: Oh. And that's when it started. And I was I remember my last words to him on stages like your saying, bro saying. I was like, you a big chance sign my name up.
00:30:40
Speaker 4: Ain't sposed to be on brother? Yeah, ye what you got me into? And they called the other rapper to go against me.
00:30:46
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, because he's telling me, give me reality. You want to come tap my shoulder and wrap all of this stuff to me all the time we in the hood, we ain't got nothing going on. Do it on a form.
00:31:00
Speaker 4: And that's where it took. It was like they liked me, you know what I'm saying. I was invited back next week. Now I'm prepared. It showed me I could be a winner, and then that's what my journey started on my my I could use this place now that they like me to give them what I really want to do, which is my music.
00:31:21
Speaker 2: So I'll just use it as a stepping stool.
00:31:23
Speaker 3: And for that it was hoop dreams though, yeah, it was hoop dreams. Sum But I was always really good at rap. Bro, I was so good at rap.
00:31:29
Speaker 4: I used to give my raps to my friend and he used to wrap them at lunch and the crowd used to go crazy, and I used to be in the back and nobody ever knew I wrote it, and they give him like props and stuff. And he had been in the corner with me like, hey, ye write me another wrap. You gotta get off.
00:31:45
Speaker 2: I'm like, yep.
00:31:48
Speaker 4: I should to record him on the tape recorder and he'll listen to him. Yeah, rememberize them.
00:31:52
Speaker 2: Damn you did reference tracks. Yeah, we did a couple of reference tracks from some records. You guys don't know. I wrote too, man, some of your favorite records that you like? What like what I tell you?
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Nah? Bro?
00:32:05
Speaker 2: Like what the family?
00:32:06
Speaker 4: Bro?
00:32:06
Speaker 3: We gotta not protect that's the name R Protect and protected understand man.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: It was definitely we get it.
00:32:15
Speaker 3: Summer twenty six, Compton av my got some little congratulations, definitely.
00:32:19
Speaker 4: I want to say I appreciate you guys, what you guys do too. Got a member of This is the way the world go around, especially shots. All my DJ's out there too. You know all my radio personalities. I've been listening to you for so long. Thank you know what I'm saying. Supposed to have been got up with you, but God gonna make it happen when it's supposed to.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: Chuck you my man's I love your intro.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: You do.
00:32:37
Speaker 2: Make sure that we stay in touch.
00:32:38
Speaker 4: Man. You fire with that man and we can put an intro together something like that on my next project for sir, sir, everybody out there that's chasing the dream. I'm a young boy from Compton. I didn't know where this would take me, but all I know is this is something I wanted to do. And when you want to do something, why not get paid for it? Do it until it pays you. That's all I wanted to do.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: Love to Compton, respect my gual congratulations definelopen eight eight.
00:33:04
Speaker 5: Yes, let's get it pay check your Richard with the Cruise Show. Thanks for listening to The Cruise Show podcast. Make sure to subscribe and hey, auto download so you don't miss an episode.
00:33:13
Speaker 4: So so, so so
Speaker 1: What's good was good?
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Speaker 2: What ups muscle? You're checking out the Cruise Show podcast? Subscribe copters on the Cruise Show. Crazy right there, man, you got a lot of reasons to smile. My man.
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Speaker 3: Y'all y'all went crazy right worldwide? Yeah, yeah, they know, they know whatever. You've got some global status. Finally, right, talk to me popping Thailand. Really that's where it started. It actually blew up in Thailand. First, What that's wild?
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Speaker 2: How'd you find that out? Uh?
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Speaker 4: So, you know, just just my analytics and it was a kid in Thailand which is now my brother tsc Uh. He would just do videos to it, you know what I mean. He would just do videos every day with a chicken. And it start blowing up and I start getting hit ups, and I was like, you know what, I think I needed to go to Thailand and visit this kid. I jumped on the plane when they're visiting, took him shop and gave him some money, content with him and just showed him. And you know, he had never left his little space, so he changed his life. He didn't know he was famous.
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Speaker 2: Pathia.
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Speaker 4: And we were walking down the strip and everybody was just taking pictures with me and him and he had he had no idea.
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Speaker 2: It was famous. That's why that was my first time going to Nah. So we shared the experience together. For sure. I put him in the hotel room. He was That was probably the first time he's ever said and stayed and nothing is clean. Like he was tripped out from tripped out.
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Speaker 1: So he obviously experienced a lot of new things for himself, right, hotel rooms and whatnot. What's something new that you experienced in Thailand?
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Speaker 2: Just the lifestyle, just like, I just love the way it looks.
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Speaker 4: It's super like, you know what I'm saying, I'll be trying to thug it out, but trying to get in my little but it's beautiful out there, Bro, beautiful, It's beautiful, beautiful, you know.
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Speaker 2: And it's like I'm like, dang, you know, my music got me here. You know, I do my engineer myself.
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Speaker 4: So just me being at the crib recording this record in my bedroom and he got me to Thailand and it just motivated me and just turned my ambition and everything all the way up through the Yo.
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Speaker 2: Yah Yah took it there. Bro took y'all there and took him there. Yeah for real, that's crazy.
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Speaker 3: How they say one song can change everything, but there's there's no limit to what it could change.
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Speaker 4: The good thing about it is I've been hearing I've been big places for a long time, but the invitation one like yah ya. I think the invite happened when ya y'all happened, So I was already big places, and then the invitation was just like, Okay, now we can get him over here. He's worth the buck, I guess to get him here, so.
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Speaker 3: Ya ya ya ya yeah, man, and and and creating ya y'all was a process for you as well. He wanted to speed up the beat, you wanted to add a few things.
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Speaker 4: So I actually drove around with the with the sample for about a like probably like two days before I even expressed that I wanted to use it. She actually only says yeah y'all one time on the sample too, which is crazy. So I just heard it when she said and it was really slow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 4: I was like a screen recorded it, sent it to Steals like hey, and I said speed it up, and I just started doing the hook and that's all I had, and it just sonically just you know, like I'm a big fan of two thousands early two thousands, like that little mood, the little John thing, and it's what base pattern could we possibly add to this to get it going?
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Speaker 2: That way?
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Speaker 4: We can make it Bay Area, LA and Atlanta. So I just didn't want to go like a home team Cadence base pattern. I want to kind of like just just be open with it.
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Speaker 2: So oh yeah.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of science to the record for cit easy to clear. No, that was not beautiful. That was not beautiful.
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Speaker 2: The good thing about it is we're here, We're here now, We're clear now. And you know, like I said, God bless me, hey man, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know I saw a video where bow Wow was just praising yeah yeah, and it was like, yo, it hit the A and I knew it was different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I've been knowing Boo for a little minute, you know, but I actually did a makes the Money dance. We just never put it out. So bow has always been tapped in and bow said it reached the A. And when I tell you reached the A, we was in the club and it was singing it word for word in the A.
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Speaker 3: You did it like yeah, dog yeah, bro with AI being what it is, right, have you used aid to write lyrics or produce music, none of that nothing.
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Speaker 2: Do you plan on it or something you'll leave out or do you want to like touch on it? Pause?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah pause easy, Yeah. I wouldn't mind having a conversation. And also like I feel like, uh, it depends I use anything. I feel like everything is here in front of us to be used. But I don't want to take the natural. Don't just go to your chat GBT or AI and get lyrics. It's kind of crazy and then bragging Boston for the people like me to actually put the work in and say you better, or it's just a conversation you have. If you're using it to be an artist, is be an artist? Don't get cocky and start using it like you kind of you know what I'm saying. It's just all anything you do. Just be careful, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I think now the argument is AI is just like what auto tune was enhances?
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Speaker 4: I guess yeah yeah, But like I said, T Paint explain that he was like, I can do this without auto tune. Yeah, that's a texture that I allowed to be on my records, but hey, I can get to it this way.
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Speaker 2: Too.
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Speaker 4: This is all about your approach, you know what I mean? Now, what if t Paint talked like that he couldn't sing it all? Yeah, now we having a different conversation naturally, or lied about it, you know, lied about that.
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Speaker 2: That's my thing. You a, oh, I'll see where y'all going to leave me out of there? No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. Phoenix is our guy. That's my guy. He gave us the song to break. We broke it on this on this show. You know you love the song. It's not even about that. It's just I'm not mad at him doing it.
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Speaker 1: Use it.
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Speaker 2: That's for anything. If you're using whatever, right, it's like, just be upfront about oh, no, what it is.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: I think Tiger, like you know, explained it very well, I guess.
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Speaker 3: Or he did his his part in it, right. I think make sure that just said what it's you know what it was up front. But whatever, the song is a song and it's fire. I feel like he played his smart Yeah. I mean, he didn't want to shoot itself in the foot.
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Speaker 4: And he was just now he rolled it out. He was gonna deal with whatever came with it after that. Chin up, you know, what I'm saying, and U, I mean, you can't play with just their whole movement in general, the shore Line Mafia movement, you can't play with anyways. They got other hits outside of that. You know, this is just his his his his, you know, you know, I go, he got his his big one, and I salute that man. That man got to feed his family.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, Summer twenty six, Yeah, crazy project. Easy to make, Uh, very.
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Speaker 4: Easy with the music, but the mind state I was in and what I was going through at the time, No, I just got off tour and I was being pressured and we couldn't get certain samples cleared, and so all the records came easy. Was the behind that kind of got me. I went through something then sending my kid off to college. I felt empty at times while trying to make a party move. So I had to like I had to like tap into certain moments, like I had to like really really tap into certain moments, like especially being a part of the Blue Face tour, like with shows is popping how I felt at the time. So I really just like went inside myself when inside my body and found these you don't get me, They're all true events.
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Speaker 2: That's why it sounds the way it sounds.
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Speaker 4: But imagine being at home in the bedroom by yourself, trying to figure out, Okay, how you tap back into that vibe because I was going on tour for so long.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, all the red fields come across authentic. Yah.
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Speaker 5: Did you ever feel at one point discouraged because you were going through so much behind the scenes?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: Never.
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Speaker 4: Musically, I take things on as a challenge. I feel like other things discouraged me, but nothing that ever has to do with music.
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Speaker 2: I chose this.
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Speaker 4: I know what it come with, and this is what I'm gonna do, you know what I mean? And I take pride in you know what I'm saying. I can't take shots at all other rappers out here, but I like being known for music. I don't like being known for going to jail, having shootouts, being like, I like being known for music. You guys don't know me nothing but putting out music, and I always want to keep it. I don't try not to do no clout chasing on the internet or you know what I mean, go against my integrity as a man. I just like to be myself, So that's musically, I have no challenges but my life, we be having challenges because now we gotta we come from a city the w everybody wants to be the king, sit in the king's chair, run the city.
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Speaker 2: And I don't feel like that's what it's about. I feel like we got to Look.
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Speaker 5: That's a great mindset that you have, though, because it's so hard for like other rappers to get out of that mindset and to focus on the music own.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're being tricked. You gotta realize the Instagram is showing you these numbers go up when you do this. When you do this, it works, and that's all they know. This is the easy route. But the remember anything is the easy route can get you locked in.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of my homies got buzzed. There was buzzing.
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Speaker 4: Get eight year ten year centses like Bro, by the time you get out, it's gonna be over. You didn't have enough music and enough catalog for us to wait on you that long, you know what I mean. Shout out to Greto. Grido was blessing the situation. Greto is the man and he went so they was ready for him when he got out.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 4: How the people can't overcome that. That's a tough hurdle, man, It's a tough hurdle that you get forgotten.
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Speaker 3: And you know, music changes people's listening habits change, right, They become fans of other people, they grow up.
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Speaker 4: Their taste of music is not your music no more because they grew up all type of stuff and you didn't keep them occupied enough for them to stay around forever.
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Speaker 2: Is that why you know getting shot isn't necessarily a subject for you? No, that's why I never wrap about it.
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Speaker 4: I think I may have spoke on it one time on one of my records, but more like from a respectful place like I wanted. I wouldn't bragging about it. No, I didn't brag about it at all. I wanted you to know, like, this is what happened, and this is like, yeah, this is what comes with it. And I touched on that subject and that's what my heart felt, and I was done with it. I don't want to take that show on the road.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy, right, yeah, right, we don't want the energy on the road. Bro, you're trying to get homes done. I'm cool.
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Speaker 3: You'll heard about it, okay, cool, never heard about it? Heard about it because you got family to get home to. Your daughter is going to Howard, you know, university. Congratulation, big dog man, Hey, good job dad, thank you, good job. Any dad's in here, I'll salute you. Come on, man, stir it up.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 3: When I've seen it, because I've seen now when you started crying, I felt something too, Dog.
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Speaker 2: I was like, do this. This is proud of his baby man.
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Speaker 6: Man seen it from from from from jump though, right because he you know, from from before as.
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Speaker 2: A little girl to now.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like now, it's just wild to see that. And I always salute you as a father like the music, yeah you got hits, yes, but Bro, as a man, as a father, you you've always taken your hat to put her first. And I just want to make that, put that on records so people know, like, yo, it's you really one of the.
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Speaker 2: Ones for that now.
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Speaker 6: I always ask for advice forefathers, and I feel like you do a great job at that. So what dad, advice could you give to other fathers out there? That's kind of in a position of you know, being being as present as you are.
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Speaker 2: She's going to need you. She's going to need you in many ways that a woman, can't. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: Your protection, your love, your outlook is what's gonna make her go out here and fight and butt the world different. Eventually she's gonna fall in love with somebody. But let her fall in love with somebody, and she understands the quality of a person that she's going to be around, you know what I mean, And you set a good example of what that could be. You know, you let her know, don't sell yourself short for nobody. Put yourself first, because when she puts, she's so pure. Putting herself first is always going to be the lookout for us. That's how I live my life. I'm so pure. I don't be one of those people like let me get in the door first, and then I'm gonna take care of everybody like my people know that.
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Speaker 2: Like we reached it to a level where I'm so pure.
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Speaker 4: We know, if AV gets fifty million, everybody's straight, because that's just how I put my love out there like that.
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Speaker 2: So I just take for all the fathers out there.
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Speaker 4: Mama can do a lot, aunties can do a lot, Grandma can do a lot, but fathers can do a lot. And so she only got one. You remember that it's only won you and that's what it's designed for. Lead the way, right, Lead the way.
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Speaker 5: Were you like a little scared to have her go so far away?
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Speaker 2: Yes, Washington, DC?
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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, But I trust her and an understand her, and we had many conversations and she's excited, and I want to be excited for anything that she's excited for.
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Speaker 2: She's gonna do well, she's gonna be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
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Speaker 4: She's a lot different from you, different from me, No, she's exactly like no, yeah, it's to the point where we bump head sometimes.
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Speaker 2: She's exactly like me. She wants to do what she wants to do.
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Speaker 4: She's chosen and you know, she remind me of that fifteen year old boy that was like, well, mom wants you to get a job, but you're gonna be a rapper though, and it's like, how are you going to get into rap? We're gonna have to figure it out. And that's what she's going to college for, you know what I mean. I put her in every dance class, every ballerina, volleyball track, everything, spent my money for her to say, oh, I'm just gonna go to college for criminology.
00:13:03
Speaker 3: But that's okay. But that's okay, you know, like you want your money, you want your money back to.
00:13:15
Speaker 5: Drowning weekends.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, used to tell me what it was gonna cost for this session and the price. I used to be like, whoa just getting the car and tell her like, oh you gotta be a dancer. Yeah yeah, it cost me a lot of money if this is what we're doing. Yeah right, yeah, you know.
00:13:31
Speaker 4: I get moms and mothers that come and be like, well, you gotta let her experience so she can choose what's costing the trial running the money is it? But I was blessed enough to to, you know, float around in this sport and make me something. And yeah, man, you know so I was. That was with ease, and I said I always wanted somebody to support me. So when I was doing I was smart, even though I was complaining a bit, but hey, I was in my heart, I was happy.
00:13:58
Speaker 2: Now you gave her what you needed. Listen to that you gave her what you needed. For sure? You feel me?
00:14:04
Speaker 3: Single mom, right, single mom raised you. That's gotta be tough. Absent father, You needed a dad? Yeah right, I'm sure you have father, figures right in the family, but like, well her mm she was just thugged out like that bro. And my mom didn't play it with it.
00:14:19
Speaker 4: My mom was like, she ain't raising no punks, but she ain't raised no disrespect like towards no women either.
00:14:26
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. She was just both of them.
00:14:28
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, Like when I when I started grew up, I was like, growing up, I was like, she's both of them. That's kind of why I never yearned for him or needed them or cared to have him, because she was both of them, you know what I mean. Even to the point where she was so young, she still would play mind games with us, like it's crazy if I tell I'm me to tell these stories off air, But she would prepare us for the world, and she would see how we react and what we was thinking, and we would do. She would take us in the car and be like, times is hard and we need to and then we kind of get all the way there, and she just she just wanted to see our characters, like if we was gonna be down for each other, and then she would stop us and laugh like, Hi, nah, but look that's cool. That y'all down for each other. And I see that y'all was ready to go because mom was going. But feel free to speak up and be like, naw, you want to do this and find another way too.
00:15:15
Speaker 2: Also she was really like that, bro, like, yo, if you don't want to do this, you can you can say that.
00:15:21
Speaker 4: This and that bled over to me and my friends X amount of years later and we was in our car mission It's like, look, I don't want to do this, so don't make me seem like I'm a punker buster. I'm going to go on this mission because I want to bring you home with me. I never ever wanted to do nothing that I ever done, but I'm going to go on this mission because my brother got to come back home today. That's right, my friend got to come back home today. And I wanted to establish that so they never could ex out my character and tell me x Y and Z. I kept all my homies on a good path growing up. I don't smoke, I don't drink, but I'm also not the loser. I'm the cool guy. I make you fay, Oh dang, you don't smoke or drink, man, I want to be like that. I just learned how to maneuver. I wouldn't even say manipulate, because that's it. We maneuvered things and showed you this is the actions, and this is how the people view you when you do the right thing.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: Bro. That's right.
00:16:12
Speaker 3: In some bad situations that we found ourselves in growing up, wherever we grew up, sometimes you had to manipulate a situation in order for a good outcome.
00:16:19
Speaker 2: You know for sure. And that's kind of what I said in that song.
00:16:22
Speaker 4: We asked me about being shot I said, I didn't shot at and been shot at, but I've been shot up too.
00:16:27
Speaker 2: It's cool they got that.
00:16:29
Speaker 4: It's like, this is the game y'all choose to play, and this is what comes with it. But I couldn't have came back, so I'm never going to do that again.
00:16:37
Speaker 2: That was an easy mission for me. I already thought about it.
00:16:40
Speaker 4: And now my homie standing in front of me today with four kids, and we was in the back going to back seat, going to terrorize some things.
00:16:47
Speaker 2: And now he got four babies, all girls. Look God bless hey.
00:16:54
Speaker 1: So what led to you not smoking or drinking?
00:16:58
Speaker 2: You know?
00:16:59
Speaker 4: Just the I was short growing up. I got my height towards the end of high school. So playing sports was hard for me being so short. Growing up, I just wanted to be faster. I seen like the drugs and stuff taking a toll on my friends, making talent slower, more unaware and stuff like that.
00:17:17
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to keep my sharpness. That's one. Yeah.
00:17:20
Speaker 4: And then I had a step father that was just the coolest until he indulged.
00:17:27
Speaker 2: Oh I never want to be like that.
00:17:30
Speaker 3: Nah yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll show you and teach you everything you need to know. So it just watch never started respect, you know, or at least like to be around, and then they switch.
00:17:40
Speaker 2: Up on you.
00:17:40
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm too cool, and then you catch me in that environment, I'm all messed up.
00:17:44
Speaker 2: Like nah, man, that's kind of it's kind of whack. I have no excuses. This is what I do. Like you know what I mean.
00:17:51
Speaker 4: And you put some liquor in yourself and you say, oh, that wasn't me, No, that is you. It alerted you and got yourself. That's the real you.
00:17:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:17:59
Speaker 1: So I'm curious, what did you do for your twenty first birthday?
00:18:02
Speaker 4: Spent it with my family, you know what I'm saying. The good thing about it is my uh my daughter was born and we was having a good old time. He's telling no, matter of fact, what's not love born? No, No, I think she was in the stomach. But yeah, me and moms was kicking it for sure. That was that was our whole thing on all our twenty first birthdays. My mom is like, we don't care, we diether. Y'all made it to twenty one. Yeah, Compton babies made it to twenty one, right, Yeah, for sure. Some man made it to twenty one. Well man made it to twenty one and Compton it's for real. Nah, Yeah, you step out of that face. You just felt like you're back on fire.
00:18:39
Speaker 3: My boy, I'd be scared of going to the store spicely back then, Like, whoa, you're just going to the liquor store.
00:18:44
Speaker 2: You go to the store to get you some liquors, some hot cheetos, and you ain't coming home. You're on the news now. I grew up one hundred and twenty fourth in Compton Avenue.
00:18:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that silence is everything right there, that second of silence right there, what it is.
00:19:04
Speaker 2: I'm making it as a whole nother badge of honor whatever with.
00:19:08
Speaker 5: Some of your song titles, obviously my dance net thirty. Yeah, yah, are you actually good with money?
00:19:13
Speaker 2: I'm very good with money. I'm very good with money. I do those you saved.
00:19:19
Speaker 4: Yes, that's how she had her college tuition before she had to pay her college. Yeah, that was already done in the tenth grade. She had that already.
00:19:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:19:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, but just I use those titles because I'm very good at those things. When the world chose dance songs, because dance is a fashion of we all like to dance in some type of capacity, in some type of place. Rather it's a loon, you get your boogie on. So I feel like dance is a really strong sporting hip hop in any genre. Yeah, and then what else do we all like? After love dancing? We love money? So I would love to just show you more. Ya ya is a product of that too, Like I wanted to show you that instead of saying money or saying the bag, you're getting to the yah ya.
00:20:07
Speaker 2: So I just creake these little things. Yeah, you know, I was I was telling. I was like, hey man, I'm not gonna lie like I don't know what yah y'all is. She was like, what's everything?
00:20:16
Speaker 1: She was like, I think it's pussy.
00:20:17
Speaker 2: I said, I mean it might be. It's everything statue money. We yeah, that's what it is. So if you say thick little bit and she got some good yeah yeah, everybody broadcast niggas ain't getting no money. Just hit up that we.
00:20:39
Speaker 5: I was on it.
00:20:39
Speaker 2: You you were behind hey, But he told us the slogan is like, you know, you got people to say the little baby, that's my little ya ya. There's also grandma's that go.
00:20:50
Speaker 4: By yeahah yeah, yeah yeah right, it's a fun word and babies can do it.
00:21:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:02
Speaker 4: I would have given a shout out to my brother OT Genesis too. I think OT knew something that we didn't too, because like we didn't know, came out and said the word Coco Coco.
00:21:11
Speaker 2: Right. My kids loved it.
00:21:12
Speaker 4: Thought it was hot Coco. No, they thought he was talking about hot Coco. The babies love hot, you know what I'm saying. But then you got the drug. They make the money off the but then you have the user that loves the He just did something special.
00:21:28
Speaker 2: So when we heard his explosives, I was like, whoa.
00:21:31
Speaker 4: And in the video too, the original video, he knew something that we didn't know, and that's why he's Yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: Let me add something to because I DJ weddings for a living, right, I feel like you got you got money dance obviously, and that's usually used for money dances for weddings, and then ot, then OT he got cut it, which I normally use for like cake cutting. Y'all got the wedding songs on lock.
00:21:56
Speaker 2: Look that Look how that work. And that wasn't even the intention. It could be a part of people special days like that, right dope, man, that's all I do it for.
00:22:05
Speaker 6: I would imagine with having hits like that. Man, you mentioned earlier about being pressured by the label to make projects. Is it even necessary nowadays to even do that when you're able to deliver hits after hit after hit, Like, what's talk about the decision to say, okay, I hear you out, let me go on and make a project as well.
00:22:21
Speaker 2: Well.
00:22:21
Speaker 4: I never really care what they say. Yeah, that's never I never ever care what they say. They say a lot of stuff.
00:22:26
Speaker 2: I just like whatever.
00:22:28
Speaker 4: Sometimes I agree, knowing I'm not going to do it either just to keep the relationship. But when it's time for me to do a project, it's like I'm looking at it like a Oh, you get a chance to express how you feel through a body of work instead of trying to jam it all the one so on you know what I mean, because if you try to, that's what I try to do on Yah y'a. Like I wanted to stay complete commercial on Yah y'all. But notice I started adding my cousins in my rallies.
00:22:55
Speaker 2: I'm putting on big meat.
00:22:57
Speaker 4: I like got off subject purposely to let you know I can rap, and then I'll go, sure's meean that thing like a tense speed.
00:23:04
Speaker 2: I get back where we originally was at.
00:23:06
Speaker 4: So the projects I can use the projects to I'm starting to realize I can use the projects to express and then use my singles to express where they need to be. And I kind of want to get away from putting street stuff in my commercial songs and my hit records smart and just go straight to doing projects again. That's the reason I came back to the project because last year, y'all wouldn't getting one for me, for sure, because they weren't listening. To be honest, true, nobody was listening. Nobody cared. That's just what this game does. First, they love you then they hate you, then they love you again.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: That is very true. I mean, you got to create the.
00:23:41
Speaker 4: Reason they love you again and understand at this time, who's your friends, who's your you know what I'm saying, associates and who just make the dial move And that's okay, it's all a business, you know what I mean. That was the hardest thing for me to learn because I'm so much.
00:23:54
Speaker 2: Of a realist.
00:23:55
Speaker 4: All the time, I thought everybody was being like me, and then you gotta go look at the the perspective of it's real.
00:24:03
Speaker 2: Me and Cruise is real. Ain't gonna be the same thing.
00:24:06
Speaker 4: Me and your really ain't gonna be the same thing because we share attachments to different mothers, grandmothers, daughters, brothers. So what's real to you may not be real to me, but it's very real to them mm hmm. And that's why this is a business. So I had to learn that aspect.
00:24:22
Speaker 3: It was very smart. Yeah, it's a good way to think. Many does that make you not trust anyone?
00:24:28
Speaker 1: No?
00:24:29
Speaker 2: No, Because.
00:24:32
Speaker 4: My grandmother would want me to be like that. What's for me is for me, and she always said that. My mama said, to this day she sounded just like her, what's for you is for you. You know what I'm saying. When people backstab you, that was just just what it is. Yeah, you don't got to go back and back to clear in the path, man. You know, I build on my character every day. I never retaliated ever.
00:24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, you going through that like those lessons and figuring out like the business aspect is like, Okay, you might take some losses in my hurt a little bit, but you got to keep it pushing.
00:25:03
Speaker 4: If I really wanted to tell him the truth in this camera, y'all gave me what I needed. I actually made it worse for yourself.
00:25:09
Speaker 2: Mm hmm that part. You gave me what I needed.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you touched on the eighties vibe too, huh Yeah, why not? That was that was a crazy time.
00:25:21
Speaker 2: That was a crazy time.
00:25:25
Speaker 4: Like when you look at movies, those are the most intriguing movies eighties and nineties, it's the best looks. They was clean, they was flying, no matter what they was. Yes, they dressed down, they was yeah.
00:25:37
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a moment, man, why not why not capture that again tonight and feel it?
00:25:42
Speaker 3: No, that's the way to go. Have a good time with the time of your life. Hell yeah, the regular life, That's what it is.
00:25:47
Speaker 2: That's why I named it. Time you saw the suit? You feel me? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, came down a couple of pounds, jumped in a suit too easy.
00:25:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told him. I was like, damn, I kind of like the figure got on right now? How did that link up.
00:26:03
Speaker 2: With a happen? Oh?
00:26:05
Speaker 4: Ace just hit me up like he wanted to do the y'all. You want to do something with y'all y'all? And I was like, go ahead, you know what I mean? He was like you a pull up on me?
00:26:13
Speaker 2: Yeah?
00:26:13
Speaker 4: Man, I watched you all season last year, and then you know, being able to meet these people, you can finally meet him when they're not.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: In character.
00:26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:26:25
Speaker 4: Ace is a real dude, you know what I'm saying. I took my friend with me right now, Like, Ace is a real guy. He was asking me questions. He actually told me, like, bro, listen to you growing up. Wow, Oh you don't know these things until you meet the person. You got any game you can give me with this baech because I'm gonna start pushing music and we just end up linking.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: He just called me. He said, I'm a pull up on you. I pull up on him. He come to the shows, I bring you out and it's just my brother. Now he good. That's it watching the show too.
00:26:53
Speaker 1: So what's the biggest difference you see from like Ace the reality TV star versus Ace like the artist.
00:27:01
Speaker 2: He's just misunderstood, you know what I mean.
00:27:04
Speaker 4: He doesn't He's not going to get on social media and just and just like and talk about his side because he's he's tired of defending itself. There's people like me now that I met my friend, y'all back up off Ace. Ace is a good guy. A lot of things that y'all seen on television was persuaded that way. Sometimes Ace didn't have nothing to do with that, and he just added ace face expression right there.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: All to do with Ace and it wasn't.
00:27:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we got to remember, at the end of the day, reality TV is exactly itself too.
00:27:38
Speaker 4: And then they come in here and say, hey, you need to spice it up a little bit, you need to do this, and you need to do this.
00:27:43
Speaker 3: Right, and you just like, don't they drop certain things off, like, hey, they were talking about you, you should ask.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Them about that.
00:27:51
Speaker 5: I think reality TV is always like from what like reality TV starts up explained, is like it's not scripted necessarily, but there's suggestion, there's suggestions, there's suggestions as to behind this.
00:28:03
Speaker 2: And we're just living in a time of clout. That's what it really is.
00:28:07
Speaker 4: Man, don't let nobody on that show for you and think they don't think they're gonna come out of that show. And they wanted to be at least a million followers too, million, right, Yeah, that's why they choose no put you on. I've always been a part of that. Like I grew up watching Real World, so Real World was was. I used to sit on the floor by myself. My mom used to be like, what is this weird stuff you're watching? And it was the first time I got to see like the streets of another world, right, like they show us beauty on television and this subway in this street is smoking and they walking.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: Down and I was like, damn, is that how New York looks? Or is that how Billy looks ery San Francisco.
00:28:52
Speaker 4: So it was a time for me to see that other places are real too, instead of thinking Compton was real.
00:28:57
Speaker 2: That's right, we know Compton is real. But saying that Compton is the only place that was real right now.
00:29:01
Speaker 3: To find out that there's a whole other world out of where you're from or where you live, it's crazy.
00:29:06
Speaker 4: TV did that for me too, showed me everything I needed to see. They show you beauty on TV. Man, it's beautiful on TV.
00:29:14
Speaker 2: Real world. I said, Oh, it's rats and stuff out there. It's real. The big rap. That's crazy. Yeah, so big ass rats.
00:29:24
Speaker 6: But before we wrap, I want to ask you this because a lot of people aren't privy to know that. You know, they hear y'all. Y'all, they hear the hits and they know you from that. But it's like it's a whole other world of Compton AV prior to that. Man, so talk to him about the pit and the battle rap days and then you transitioned from that to.
00:29:40
Speaker 2: Where you are right now.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: Just wanting to be heard, I was. I used to have a friend named CP. We stall had these names cp AV. I think we started the whole.
00:29:50
Speaker 2: The initial game.
00:29:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, because his name is Chris Phillips and CPI. I grew up on campon f so AV that's how we used to just do it, you know what I mean? So, and then my mother was ourselfs PG. Now it's funny, but because her name is pretty gangster. But we just do this little thing. But I went to a rap battle. I didn't even know it was rap battle. I just went out with him one night and it's pretty girls in the.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: Buildings, a vibe. Hey you got me. I think we're gonna have a party.
00:30:17
Speaker 4: And then my name get called to the stage and he gives me that quick twenty seconds you always want to wrap to me, wrap to somebody else, do back off, get going go.
00:30:27
Speaker 2: Oh. And that's when it started. And I was I remember my last words to him on stages like your saying, bro saying. I was like, you a big chance sign my name up.
00:30:40
Speaker 4: Ain't sposed to be on brother? Yeah, ye what you got me into? And they called the other rapper to go against me.
00:30:46
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, because he's telling me, give me reality. You want to come tap my shoulder and wrap all of this stuff to me all the time we in the hood, we ain't got nothing going on. Do it on a form.
00:31:00
Speaker 4: And that's where it took. It was like they liked me, you know what I'm saying. I was invited back next week. Now I'm prepared. It showed me I could be a winner, and then that's what my journey started on my my I could use this place now that they like me to give them what I really want to do, which is my music.
00:31:21
Speaker 2: So I'll just use it as a stepping stool.
00:31:23
Speaker 3: And for that it was hoop dreams though, yeah, it was hoop dreams. Sum But I was always really good at rap. Bro, I was so good at rap.
00:31:29
Speaker 4: I used to give my raps to my friend and he used to wrap them at lunch and the crowd used to go crazy, and I used to be in the back and nobody ever knew I wrote it, and they give him like props and stuff. And he had been in the corner with me like, hey, ye write me another wrap. You gotta get off.
00:31:45
Speaker 2: I'm like, yep.
00:31:48
Speaker 4: I should to record him on the tape recorder and he'll listen to him. Yeah, rememberize them.
00:31:52
Speaker 2: Damn you did reference tracks. Yeah, we did a couple of reference tracks from some records. You guys don't know. I wrote too, man, some of your favorite records that you like? What like what I tell you?
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Nah? Bro?
00:32:05
Speaker 2: Like what the family?
00:32:06
Speaker 4: Bro?
00:32:06
Speaker 3: We gotta not protect that's the name R Protect and protected understand man.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: It was definitely we get it.
00:32:15
Speaker 3: Summer twenty six, Compton av my got some little congratulations, definitely.
00:32:19
Speaker 4: I want to say I appreciate you guys, what you guys do too. Got a member of This is the way the world go around, especially shots. All my DJ's out there too. You know all my radio personalities. I've been listening to you for so long. Thank you know what I'm saying. Supposed to have been got up with you, but God gonna make it happen when it's supposed to.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: Chuck you my man's I love your intro.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: You do.
00:32:37
Speaker 2: Make sure that we stay in touch.
00:32:38
Speaker 4: Man. You fire with that man and we can put an intro together something like that on my next project for sir, sir, everybody out there that's chasing the dream. I'm a young boy from Compton. I didn't know where this would take me, but all I know is this is something I wanted to do. And when you want to do something, why not get paid for it? Do it until it pays you. That's all I wanted to do.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: Love to Compton, respect my gual congratulations definelopen eight eight.
00:33:04
Speaker 5: Yes, let's get it pay check your Richard with the Cruise Show. Thanks for listening to The Cruise Show podcast. Make sure to subscribe and hey, auto download so you don't miss an episode.
00:33:13
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