OM DENNE EPISODE
In this episode, Yannick Jacob and David Drapkin explore the intersection of coaching, psychedelics, and human connection. They discuss how traditional boundaries are shifting, the importance of self-awareness, and the skills needed for safe and effective practice in this evolving space, as well as the critical aspects of working with psychedelics, including safety, screening, and the role of coaches and clinicians, how to prepare clients, manage expectations, and ensure ethical practice in this complex field.
David Drapkin, MSW, is a social worker, clinical psychotherapist and supervisor, and educator specializing in psychedelic therapy, integrative wellness, and clinical AI. David previously worked at Mount Sinai Hospital, Hackensack Meridian Health, Englewood Health, Forge Health, and Psychedelics Today / Vital.
David is the Head of Education at Pink Elephant, a venture builder and early-stage partner focused on digital health, mental wellbeing and emerging therapeutic models. He is also the Executive Director of their education company Mirari.
David has hosted over 100 podcasts, webinars and conference panels and facilitated over 200 educational sessions - mostly on psychedelic-related topics. He has previously hosted podcasts for Psychedelics Today, The Healing Mindset, and U-PEP (University Psychedelic Education Program), he is also the host of the MarpaMinds YouTube channel. David is currently the Clinical AI Architect for the EverKind emotional wellness platform, and the co-founder of Mind Shift Collective, a global community of founders and leaders in the psychedelic industry. David has a private psychotherapy practice where he sees clients remotely and in-person.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the conversation on coaching and psychedelics
04:10 Societal over-medicalization and the human experience
08:30 The influence of psychedelics on self-awareness and authenticity
12:21 Parenthood, relationships, and life challenges
16:44 The early use of psychedelics and self-exploration
20:56 The role of coaching in expanding awareness
26:15 The embodied and relational aspects of coaching
27:43 Inner work and self-awareness for practitioners
29:42 Regulation, safety, and scope of practice in coaching
32:30 The power of questions and next steps in coaching
34:30 Wisdom from Zen and Tibetan Buddhism in coaching
36:58 The importance of flexible, intuitive approaches
38:46 Understanding identity formation and scaffolding
41:14 Normalizing trauma and human experience
43:01 Risks and safety in psychedelic coaching
44:47 Recognizing destabilization and limits in practice
48:52 Life changes and risk factors for mental health
50:27 Partnership, responsibility, and informed consent
52:40 The importance of regular, long-term engagement
54:02 The role of questions and curiosity in coaching
Keywords
coaching, psychedelics, human connection, mental health, therapy, training, non-dual, emotional awareness, safety, practice psychedelic safety, coaching psychedelics, screening, mental health, integration, legal risks, professional scope, psychedelics training, trauma, neuroplasticity
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Full show notes available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Dlsa-vjB5JYNIrX3M-jtBXWrKTYzcMw/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=109895759738771655249&rtpof=true&sd=true
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