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I'm Christine.
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And I'm Christina.
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In 2024, I moved to Texas from LA.
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And to keep in touch, Christine and I started a weekly game where we each pick a song that fits a chosen theme.
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This game deepened our understanding of each other and the songs that shape us, inspiring the podcast you're listening to now.
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Each week we share our pics, swap stories, and dig into tracks you might love.
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And a lot of the time have never heard of.
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Welcome to Stereothematica, your favorite atypical music podcast.
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Hola Christine.
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Hola, ¿qué tal?
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It's the World Cup.
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Thoughts?
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Um, I mean, it's weird.
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I have mixed emotions.
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Because you're Spanish?
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Because I'm Spanish.
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But like so far, I've been watching.
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I'm I've been happy, of course, that Spain's been doing so well.
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But at the same time, I just kind of enjoy like whenever someone scores, it makes me happy.
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We went to um Europe back in 2018.
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The World Cup was playing then.
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And where?
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Um actually, I think that was in Russia at the time.
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Oh wow.
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But because we were in Europe, we were going to the different places and they were having the matches on TV.
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And it was the first time like I really got a sense of like that spirit.
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Yeah.
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But it was like my my dad was watching soccer football my entire life on TV, but like he was even a referee.
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Dang.
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But just never like, you know, not a not a sports person.
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This feels like a crazy question, but you never played soccer, did you?
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I did.
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For how long?
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AYSO for maybe half a season because I I just couldn't do it.
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I like kissed the goalie.
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I was bored.
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Um, I yeah.
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You kissed the goalie?
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I kissed the goalie.
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You're just trying to brush that one under the rug.
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Cute little guy named Brett.
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That's funny.
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There might be a picture of a I really love that.
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But yeah, not sport.
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I never that was the last time I ever played a sport.
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What about you?
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I played soccer as a child.
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I was like, I was doing a lot of sports as a child, like swim team and softball.
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Wow.
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I never played volleyball, even though you might have thought because I'm tall, but no, basketball or basketball.
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No, no.
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Soccer was the one thing that I really liked.
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And then I never made the soccer team in high school, and that really broke my heart.
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But I was like, F this, huh?
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And and so does it pain you to watch the World Cup or Absolutely not.
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Do you have you been and watching anything?
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No, I really haven't been.
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I was, I think I watched like, oh well, you know, I went on my big road trip, and then the crazy thing is obviously, okay, the World Cup is happening in your town slash city, yeah, LA.
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It's happening in Houston.
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Yeah.
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I went to Kansas City just on our road trip.
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It was happening there.
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Went to Philadelphia, also happening there.
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I actually did get to go to the fan zone in Philly, and it was really fun.
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I will admit.
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I have been a little bit of a like sour sport this year because I haven't been feeling patriotic or good about the World Cup being in the US.
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But going to the fan zone thing was fun.
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I was like, my people, yeah, the world.
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Yeah.
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So who was playing?
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I think Norway was playing.
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You know, I love that big Norwegian guy.
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Everyone loves that guy.
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He's a big old freak, and I like that.
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I was just talking about that last night with a friend.
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Really?
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At dinner, yes.
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His face is not what I would say is like what I would be going for, but I love his spirit.
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I love his personality.
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Okay.
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He brought home a taxidermy raccoon from the US as a souvenir.
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Oh, that's Christine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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What about you?
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You've been watching?
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Um, so no, just like I'll catch the tail end of these things.
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And again, like maybe when it comes to the end, I'm like sort of paying attention.
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And again, happy whoever scores.
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I'm just like, yay.
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I I do get riled up.
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Yeah.
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Like when when especially when they kick somebody or they fall down and then they like play it up, lots of melodrama up there.
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Yeah.
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It's it's ridiculous.
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And I do want to say, even though I'm unpatriotic, when they're like the men's, the US men's team, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm like, don't forget about the US women's team who has been winning like crazy for a long time.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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I think this might be a good time to segue into our theme.
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Oh, yeah.
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Go ahead.
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Sports.
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Go figure.
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Yeah, right.
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Well, obviously, I wanted to talk about sports themed music because of the World Cup.
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It only happens every four years.
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It feels momentous.
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This is a good opportunity for us to see where the crossover is between sports and music, but they go hand in hand, don't they?
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I guess.
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The answer is yes.
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And I know that you're not one for sporting events, Christine.
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No.
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But there are a few things that I think of when I'm thinking of sports and music as a, you know, a little duo.
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Tell me.
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Baseball walk-up songs.
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
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I'm trying to think.
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I I haven't been to a baseball game since like I was a kid in at Angels Stadium.
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I I don't I don't remember if they had it there.
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Well, I went to a baseball game recently and I got wildly drunk, uh, which was fun.
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Oh, yeah.
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No more about that.
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But like when a player the players get to choose what song that they're walking up to the bat for.
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That's so fun because I mean, at least where I live and probably where you live too, the baseball teams are very diverse.
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So well, they pick a lot of reggaeton, which you know I like.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it's a fun one.
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I feel like that could be its own episode, but maybe not with you.
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I think you're not going to be able to do that.
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I mean, I would enjoy going down the rabbit hole, like learning about it.
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But yeah, I had no idea this was a thing.
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You would just immediately go to Fogerty.
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I just know it.
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Yep.
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Okay, how about those like horrible NBA hype songs that they play during the game?
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Like the ones, the same ones they've been playing since like what like what?
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I don't know.
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You know this one.
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Y'all ready for this?
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You know what I'm talking about?
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I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Wow.
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We live in such crazy different worlds.
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I know.
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I'm in a bubble.
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How about like, okay, maybe not at the NBA, but you know, back to baseball when they play the organ.
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Yes.
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Charge.
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Yeah.
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And then in Texas, we play the stars at night.
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And everybody sings, and it's pretty fun.
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How about the Super Bowl halftime show?
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That's a pretty big music sports crossover.
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Yeah, and that's another one where I'm like, I'm gonna sound like an ass.
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I just, it's generally not the type of music I like.
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Well, no, of course.
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They're not gonna pick like freaking some Korean band to play at the Super Bowl halftime show, Christine.
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Linalci, I finally got my record, by the way, from Luacabob.
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Wow.
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Luacabop, congratulations.
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Hire an intern.
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You can be one of us.
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Seriously.
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Um, well, I don't watch the Super Bowl out of protest, but the next day I do, depending on the artist, I like to watch the performer.
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Yep.
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And these past couple of years, we've had some pretty good and controversial ones.
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Controversial if you're like a white nationalist or something, but like, you know, bad bunny, Kendra Clemar.
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Yep.
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It's theater.
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No, it is.
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And I'll I'll check out clips, but I'm not sitting around waiting for halftime.
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Yeah, good.
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I know some people really are though.
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Yeah.
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No, I'm most people are.
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Yeah, I would say in the USA, it's the biggest sporting event of the year.
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So of course they're gonna get a big performer.
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Oh, yeah.
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But there's one other thing that's happening right now, sports-wise.
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Did you notice the Tour de France right now?
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Vaguely, yes.
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Someone mentioned it the other day.
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Was it me?
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No, well, you've mentioned it a few times.
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Aww.
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Wait, let me visual gag.
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As someone with a sound-only podcast, I love a visual gag.
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It's a very cute Tour de France, polka dotted, what would you call it?
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A bucket hat?
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It's a bucket hat.
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It's it's very cute, but you've kind of like flip it up.
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Oh, I love it.
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Thank you.
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Well, the do I understand the significance of the polka dots?
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No, tell me.
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Probably not.
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During the Tour de France, every day there are winners of certain categories.
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So the polka dots is for the King of the Mountains.
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And my sister was just in Barcelona during the start of the Tour de France.
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And I knew that she would, she was like, Oh, I'm near the merch booth.
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And I was like, Get me a polka dot hat.
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Yeah, oh, cool.
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Because of the King of the Mountains.
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So I was pretty amped.
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When they came in the mail yesterday, so I've been wearing it around crazy.
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Perfect timing.
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But I'm a big fan of the Tour Go Tade.
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That's my guy.
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But you must know Croftworks.
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I do know Craftworks.
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Epic, yes.
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It's so good.
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Yeah.
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That song came out in 1983.
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They re-released it in 2003 on their Tour de France soundtracks album, which was their first like album of new music in a really long time.
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I don't want to get too into detail, of course, but it was kind of an unofficial Tour de France anthem.
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And I found out that the Craft Work dudes are like super avid cyclists.
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Oh wow.
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Which is kind of cute.
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And like it makes sense.
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You think because they're German?
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Yeah.
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I think I guess that does make sense.
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Yeah.
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I have my US American brain.
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But they would cycle like 200 kilometers a day, which is a lot.
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And they would ride their bikes sometimes to the venues where they would perform.
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That's very cool.
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Which is very cool.
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What about the instrument?
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I guess they would be all set up.
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Someone else is gonna do that for come on, they got roadies.
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Yeah.
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But I am going to link to an article from Electronic Sound that talks about Croftwork performing the song Tour de France at the Tour de France for the first time in 2015 at the Grande Part, in case there's any other cycling and electronic music nerds out there.
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Very cool.
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Yeah, I thought so.
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But what I really want to talk about today, of course, is the music of the World Cup.
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Because it's quite a thing.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Specifically, I want to talk about one element of this.
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But have you, like in your in your time this year watching the World Cup, have you like caught any World Cup music?
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Oh God, I I'm afraid to talk about it.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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I don't want to give it any time.
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Oh no.
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But I've seen a couple of songs, AI creations, parodies.
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Thomas would call them sloppies.
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Yeah.
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It's horrible.
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It's without giving too much time to this.
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One of them is the Spanish, it's all about the Spanish player Cukuraya.
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And it's kind of like a Rosalia sound to it, singing voice, and they're rhyming his name with paya and teya.
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And it's just so bad.
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And you you know, you know it's like AI.
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And then they have another one for France, the Mbap Mbappe.
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Mbappe.
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Mbappe.
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There's yeah, there's a video where he's like this king-like figure, and it's it's all AI.
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Ugh.
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Sick.
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It's really bad.
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But no, I I mean, traditionally not listening to a lot of World Cup music.
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Are you in New Order a long time ago?
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I don't know what year it was, but they made a World Cup song specifically for England, and they had one of their English players, like freestyle rap on the track.
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I'll I'll find it and link to it, but it was a gem.
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We I actually sounds like it would be good, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean it's New Order, it's gotta be good.
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Yeah.
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I also will say, speaking of AI slop, I saw a funny meme that you know how sometimes I don't know if this happens to you, but unfortunately, I almost thought it was real.
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It was when England was playing, um, I think it was when England was playing Argentina, and it was like a sea of Argentine fans, and then two men dressed in black, like sitting in the front row, and it was supposed to be like depeche mode watching the Argentina England game, and they were like, oh, more like depressed mode.
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And I'm like, okay, that's funny.
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But it was AI.
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So no, I know you you can't laugh.
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You can't laugh, you're not allowed.
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Okay, back to my my pick.
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So I'm setting the scene, World Cup 2010, which was held in South Africa.
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Do you remember back then?
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A little bit.
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It's a long time ago.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I do remember.
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That's the year I graduated from college.
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I was yeah, living foot loose and fancy-free, riding my bike around Austin or cruising in my Al Camino, going to the Crown and Anchor pub to watch the World Cup games, living in community with my fellow sports fans, and listening to the god-awful sounds of the Vubuzella, both on the TV and in the bars.
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Remember?
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Oh, yeah, horrible.
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That was a crazy phenomenon.
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The Vubuzella.
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Like, I'm sure it had been existing for a long time.
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That was like the year we all found out about it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I was also blasting the official song of World Cup 2010.
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Waka Waka, this time for Africa, by Shakira, featuring Freshly Ground.
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It's time for Africa.
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Christine, I know you think I'm insane about 70% of the time.
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What did you think about my selection for this theme?
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It makes sense.
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I mean, it's not my favorite.
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But I think for you and considering the other songs, although Amadou and Miriam have done a song, they did a collab in 2006 for the Germany when it was when the World Cup was in Germany.
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Yeah, and that was kind of cool, at least when they're singing.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, it's it makes sense.
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Like I wasn't surprised.
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Okay.
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Are you insane otherwise?
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Yes, but not with regard to this pick.
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Okay, good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I like to hear that.
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Yeah.
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And like, I know a lot of people have strong opinions about Shakira.
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I do think she's very talented.
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And I do think this song in particular slaps.
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Yeah.
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But while Shakira co-wrote the song with music producer John Hill, the reason why it's so good is because it samples and heavily uses the 1986 song Zamina Mina, Zangalewa, by Cameroonian Makosa group Golden Sounds.
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Have you heard that song?
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I have not heard the song, but I could imagine it based on the Shakira.
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Right.
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I, of course, I'm going to link to it and I will link to the video because it's worth a watch.
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It's very okay.
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It's interesting because the video is it's like a political commentary about war, and it's from people in Cameroon.
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So, you know, you have to anticipate that it's gonna be a little bit critical, but like it's it was so popular, this song, like it swept Africa so much so that the band ended up changing their name to Zongalewa because of this success and recognition of the hit.
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Wow.
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So, how then did Shakira end up essentially remaking the song for the World Cup?
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Tell me.
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Good.
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I will.
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I have no idea.
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So since 1990, from what I could find, every World Cup has had an official song that's usually sung in English and it's meant to appeal globally.
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So, for example, when the World Cup was held in the US in 1994, the official song was by Daryl Hall and Sounds of Blackness called Gloryland, which it was really slow and like kind of syrupy and like not a pump-up song.
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Okay, that's great.
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Highly recommend watching the music video though, because it is so perfectly 94.
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Not that I can remember like a ton from 94, but like all the flyover shots, really grainy b-roll, like okay, insane.
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So then in 2002, when the World Cup was hosted in South Korea, we got a song called Boom by Anastasia, who I guess was like probably top of the charts that year.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, what was going on?
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I think I she had that song.
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Oh, what was it?
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Oh let's look, let's look.
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Not that kind.
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Yes, not that kind.
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Okay, that was like a big song at around that time, I think, at first.
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Even though the song Boom, the World Cup song Boom is bad, I'm also surprised since it's 2002.
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This is on the heels of 9-11.
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Surprised they got away with calling it boom.
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I know.
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Just considering the song is so bad, but the video is hilarious because it's like a time capsule for life in 2002, complete with low-rise leather pants.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm gonna link to that one too, of course.
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And there's like so many other World Cup songs that we could talk about.
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I mean, you mentioned Amadou and Miriam.
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Who is their collaborator?
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Do you remember?
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Uh, some German dude.
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Oh, nice.
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I could look it up and I'll link to it.
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Okay, good.
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And and like Shakira's song, as you can imagine, probably just from hearing South Africa, and they pick somebody from Colombia and not a South African singer.
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Yep.
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There was a little bit of controversy, and I I want to get into that.
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So while freshly ground the backing vocals and some you know, interstitial in the song is a South African group.
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Shakira was slated to perform at the FIFA kickoff concert in Johannesburg's Soweto alongside the black-eyed peas, Alicia Keys, and John Legend.
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Not a very South African lineup, right?
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Yeah.
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Kind of cringe when you look back on it.
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And as such, a lot of South Africans wanted to boycott the concert, prompting FIFA to include the Soweto Gospel choir and trumpeter Hugh Masakella and Somali hip-hop star Kanan on the lineup to, I guess, make it a little bit more homegrown.
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But I know we've talked about Hugh Masakella in the past, but if Kanan sounds familiar to you, it's because he too had a viral World Cup song in 2010.
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And it was such a good song that when I was thinking about this theme, I had to go back and make sure that wasn't the official World Cup song.
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Yeah.
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Because in addition to Waka Waka by Shakira, my friends and I were blasting the hell out of his song Waven Flag, which I did find out was Coca-Cola's official sponsorship song for the World Cup in 2010.
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Who even knew there was a song?
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I know, I know.
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I mean, it makes sense, I guess.
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I went back and I watched a video, the original video for the Kanan Waven Flag song, and it actually made me cry.
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It was really beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Because he's a Somali refugee, and the song is from his perspective as a young boy in Somalia.
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And Coca-Cola actually made him change some of the lyrics because they were about war and not soccer.
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But I'm gonna link to the original in the show notes just so we can give him his props.
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Yeah.
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There is so much that I could say and talk about the World Cup and the music and the songs.
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It would probably take me over an hour, but I wanna, I wanna kind of wrap it up.
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Even though I do think it's it's a weird practice to pick artists who aren't from the country where the World Cup is being hosted.
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I think it's an interesting opportunity to see what kind of like creativity comes from these artists.
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And I do actually really like that Shakira leaned into the uh, you know, the style of African music, if not specifically South African music.
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They needed to, you know, they needed to get their mass appeal going in the star power.
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But get this Shakira's one half of the duo who recorded the official 2026 World Cup song.
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Okay, so what one's that?
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Okay, I don't know the name of the song.
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I didn't I haven't even listened to it and I'm so sorry.
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Are you sure it's not AI?
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I'm not sure it's not AI, but her her duo, her other half of the song is Nigerian singer-songwriter Burnoy.
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Do you know him?
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No, I don't, but I I'm curious.
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I feel like he's really popular in England and is like crossing over maybe a bit.
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But in addition to having FIFA having a official song, they also have an official anthem.
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And I don't know what the difference is.
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That's just so weird to me.
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But you're going to love the 2026 anthem singers, Andrea Bocelli.
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Okay, David Getta, okay, EJ, and Megan the Stallion.
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That's like a fucking Mad Lights lineup.
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Is this something I need to watch, listen to?
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I mean, we might play with we we literally just might as well because the world's probably ending.
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So, you know, might as well see Megan the Stallion and Andrea Bocelli.
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Sounds like that sounds like a party.
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I mean, it's not a joke.
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I know, I know.
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I love it.
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Okay.
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So, Christine, let's hear about your sport.
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Okay, so we have established I am not a Into any sort of traditional sports.
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So I had to ask Google, is roller skating objectively a sport?
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And you know what?
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Yes, it is.
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And I think I even asked for your blessing.
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You seem to agree.
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Look at my background.
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Yeah.
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Where am I?
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I'm at the roller rink.
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She's at the roller rink.
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And I know you have a relationship with skating.
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Would you like to share a little bit about that?
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Oh my God, yes.
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I think I've talked about it on the podcast before.
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But I started well, of course I've talked about roller plating, but like I would enter skating competitions at the roller rink when I was little.
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Just uh, you know, whenever you'd go and do the free skate, like, but I was really fast.
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I was like good, and I felt like, oh yes, it's fun.
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But also, it just felt like really fun and liberating to be at the roller rink.
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And like, of course, I like rollerblades better now because it feels safer to me.
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Really?
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But yeah, just for me personally.
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I know some people like the quads, but it's such a blast.
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And watching watching people roller skate is incredible.
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No, that I know, especially when they're good.
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Yes.
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But no, it was.
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I mean, I had birthday parties there all the time.
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Did you ever do the birthday party?
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Hell yeah.
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Skate heaven, Denham Springs.
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Yep.
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Skate for me, it was Skateway and several birthday parties.
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It was just so much fun.
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But one thing I didn't like is when they would play a slow song.
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Oh yeah.
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And I have this memory of crazy for you, Madonna's crazy for you being played and kind of being pushed into doing a hand-holding, like skate around with this guy that I wasn't even into, like a guy, a kid.
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Not the goalie.
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11-year-old or whatever.
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No.
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And yeah, that was that was one of the less happy moments.
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But but truly what I loved about skating as a kid was you could be on your own, aside when you from when you get pushed into skating with somebody and and not have to talk.
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And it was acceptable not to talk.
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And and and then the music, it was just the music and the movement, it saved you from all the awkwardness.
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And so on, yeah.
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No, I know.
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And and this, of course, brings me to my pick for today's theme from De La Soul's second album, De La Soul is Dead.
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My sporty song is a roller skating jam named Saturdays.
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Connected like a bar in the world to the fuck.
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Come on, everybody, get the fucking out.
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Come on, everybody.
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Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
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You know the song?
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Were you into De La Sol?
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay, good.
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I mean, I've known this song probably since I was a kid because I remember being a little kid and being like, Saturday, it's a Saturday.
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Me and my sister, I think, would like sing that one together.
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But also, it just slaps.
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It's in my favorite song like Spotify and everything.
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Yeah, nice.
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And I don't know if you noticed, but I did have it in our um get up and dance playlist.
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Oh no, I didn't notice.
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Yeah, I know it's a long list.
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Yeah, there's like 1,000 songs on there.
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But we know it.
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But so I I feel like I've always kind of known this song and of course other Delasol songs, but I didn't know much about them as a group.
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And so this episode gave me an opportunity to like totally deep dive.
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And there is so much I want to share.
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We have some time constraints.
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So um, first I want to share a couple of resources that everyone's just got to go to.
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This is what I used.
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This is everything you want to know and need to know is is within these two podcasts.
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First, it was Quest Love's interview with Kelvin Mercer, aka Postanus, one of the co-founders of De La Soul.
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And then there's a one-song episode where they deep dive Buddy, which was from their first album, Three Feet High and Rising.
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And yeah, just I mean, Quest Love show, the interviews is so so great.
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I did start listening to it, but it is two hours long.
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It's two hours.
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And the thing about this two hours is it's not just two hours because you're gonna want to pause and like go listen to the songs.
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I love that they're friends though.
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No, I know, it's great.
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I did have a hard time narrowing down what to talk about.
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So I'm just gonna tell you right now, I'm focusing on three things the native tongues collective, the samples they used in the song, and since this is our sports episode, a little bit about roller skating culture.
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But first, nice, yeah.
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First, for those unfamiliar with De La Soul, they were three friends: Kelvin Mercer, Postinous, David Jolly Kerr, True Goy the Dove, and Vincent Mason, Macio.
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And they all met as teenagers in Long Island, New York, and eventually formed the group De La Sole in 1988.
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When they were about 18, the debut album in 1989, Three Feet High and Rising, was a huge hit, and they quickly became famous for that flower power imagery with all the daisies on the cover, and then the song They Hate, Me, Myself, and I.
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Oh no.
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Did you know about their disdain for their first?
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No, I didn't.
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What's that about?
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:39.759
So I think it was one of those things where they had this album already, and then the record label's like, we need something like for the radio.
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We need something like we need a hit.
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So they came up with this, Me, Myself, and I, which of course, like ended up being the thing that kind of made them famous.
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I mean, my brother like had the tape, and we would listen to the song quite often.
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Oh, that's funny.
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.039
So there's actually this great clip.
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It's it's you can't, I don't know, maybe there's one where there's actually footage of them like on the stage, but it's audio of them saying, We hate this song, we hate this song, and doing this whole like shtick saying how much they hate it, but then playing the song.
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It's it's kind of cute.
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And and actually, like they were on NPR somewhat recently, and they do play the song, and they didn't do the hate shtick before it.
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:33.039
So it was funny though, in in 1989, you know, this they were having to play the song a lot, and Arsenio Hall introduced them on his show as the hippies of hip-hop.
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:44.480
And so, really, like this second album, De La Soul is Dead, is a reaction to those like flower power projections that everyone kind of just put on them because of that album cover.
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:51.279
But also they thought they were like, you know, soft and cute and and not like rap enough, yeah or not hip-hop enough.
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.079
That's cool.
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.759
I mean, no, exactly different, and it they are kind of hippie.
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:56.720
Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:57.599
I mean, I like that.
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:58.559
I do too.
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:04.960
But on Past the Plugs, they they rap Arsenio Distus, but the crowd kept clapping.
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:11.759
And then even on the intro track, the adult character says, Listen, you Arsenio Hall, gum having punk.
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:16.079
And then the kids shout back, Ooh, you let him call you Arsenio.
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:21.359
Oh, I was wondering what that was because I was listening to that track, the intro.
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:22.960
They say some pretty messed up.
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:24.480
No, I know.
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:31.920
But then I like I heard I couldn't pick out that it was Arsenio, and I was like, I was driving, so I couldn't like stop and look.
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.759
But I was like, What did they say?
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:39.599
No, but I know, and that's why you gotta listen to the Quest Love interview because you get all these nuggets.
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:48.480
So, like I listened to it and then listen to the album, and then you just keep going back and forth because like the more you listen, then you're like, Oh, that's what they were talking about.
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:49.680
Let me go listen to it again.
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.480
Yeah, so the album is crazy, it's crazy.
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.640
There's so many interstitials, and like it's it's a lot of fun.
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.720
Yeah, but most of the album, like it's yeah, it's funny, it's very wry, but it's pretty dark.
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.400
I mean, there there's the song Millie pulled a pistol on Santa.
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:12.480
Oh yeah, and that's about a girl being molested by her father, and then there's my brother's a bass head.
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.759
But then you you got Biddies in the BK Lounge.
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:28.640
Christina, I mean so mean is it's so funny, but like even hearing again Quest Love and Paws talking about it, like just go there for more on Biddies in the BK Lounge.
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:28.960
Okay.
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:34.559
And then, of course, there's my pick, Saturdays, which to me has always stood out as pure joy.
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:40.960
And and part of that joy, I think, can be attributed to being a bunch of friends making a song together.
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:53.680
And and that's kind of what the Native Tongues Collective was an unofficial like supergroup of like-minded East Coast hip-hop artists just coming together in the late 80s as they were coming up.
00:30:54.079 --> 00:31:04.079
And like it was in addition to De La Sole, it was a Tribe Called Quest, Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah, Moni Love, Busta Rhymes, and Vinya Mohica.
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:04.640
Wow.
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.680
Yeah, and and and a few others, but like those are the ones that like I think of.
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:16.079
But the clip we heard featured Vinnya singing the chorus after Postanusa's rapping.
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:37.519
And I didn't play the beginning, but it starts with the unmistakable voice of Q-tip, and clearly he's showcasing his sense of humor, but but really like all these guys were just and and women were were very clever, smart asses, really, introspective, and like totally inspired by their parents' record collections.
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.599
But the native tongues redefined what hip-hop could be and what they called the Daisy Age.
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Did you know what this stands for?
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:46.079
No.
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:50.559
Okay, so the Daisy Age stands for the inner sound y'all.
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:51.599
Love it.
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:58.319
And that was kind of what they were doing with this like native tongues concept that they had.
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:10.480
And I'll admit that this song might be less about roller skating as a sport and more about celebrating the culture and the sound surrounding it, which brings me to the samples.
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:11.200
Yes.
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.319
So the so many samples.
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.799
Just, I mean, every song, just everything they've ever done, so many samples.
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:28.960
The original Saturdays had eight samples, which that's reasonable, but there are at least 14 official versions, cuts, and remixes of that song.
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.119
So there's a lot more samples, actually.
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:32.079
That's crazy.
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.279
It's insane.
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:37.279
And here's my favorite part of the record version with three of those samples.
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Hey, pretty damn idea.
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Like the way I'm dressed.
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.799
Oh, big that new break is all we need is beat.
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But promote the hot book that keeps me thick.
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Don't need to talk, look at just walking.
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.359
Oh now, sprinkler, Mr.
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Prinkler.
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With me for one, Mr.
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Sprinkler, I'm eating half five minutes, don't split.
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So we've got Sheik's Good Times, Frankie Valley's Grease, and under Trugoy's Mr.
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Sprinkler, the piano from Young Holt Unlimited's instrumental cover of The Doors' Light My Fire.
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.640
And then, of course, you throughout you hear evil vibrations.
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.039
We also know that the sampling got Dela into some trouble.
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:23.680
Uh-oh.
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:34.240
Your guys, Turtles members, Howard Kalen and Mark Bullman, aka Flo and Eddie, who you talked about in our caught off guard episode.
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:34.960
Yeah.
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:41.039
So they sued over a 12-second sample of the Turtles You Showed Me.
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:47.759
Great song, by the way, which was on Three Feet High, their interlude transmitting Live from Mars.
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Used beautifully.
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And they sued for 2.5 million in 1991.
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.799
God, those guys were litigious.
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.039
No, I remember I talked about them suing on exactly.
00:33:59.200 --> 00:33:59.440
Yeah.
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:01.039
No, come on.
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.480
Like grow up.
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.240
No, and and I mean the case settled for about 1.7 million.
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.039
Yeah.
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.679
And after that, it was kind of like precedent.
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:20.000
Then every every sample had to be cleared, and it was it just became a headache for not just de la Soleil but like so many hip-hop bands, so many bands in general.
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:31.039
It's also part of why De La Sole is dead and the rest of their early catalog weren't available on streaming until March 2023, just like figuring out all the sampling.
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:31.599
Right.
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:32.559
Yeah.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:43.360
But again, going back to the quest of interview, even the way Postanus talks about that whole time, it's just he's such a cool guy.
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.880
Like to hear him talk about it.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.400
He's he's like, he never even dealt with the Turtles guys.
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.119
He just was dealing with lawyers, and he said, even the lawyers weren't mean about it.
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.880
Yeah, I'll let you let you like listen on your own.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:58.480
Yeah, I'll check it out for sure.
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.800
Sadly, the streaming release came weeks after Trugoy passed away from congestive heart failure.
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:11.920
And I don't know, at least the fans could like finally access the music more easily while mourning him.
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.719
Yeah, it's you know, when someone dies, you want to access music.
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:28.559
And I think when Day Lessel has performed since Trugoy's death, they set up a mic with a nameplate, and and they've been keeping his memory alive, giving him the honor he deserves.
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:31.519
It's very sweet.
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.440
They I mentioned the tiny dust concert, it was quite lovely.
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.000
So um back to the skating.
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.119
Oh yeah.
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.920
Um, did you know there was a national museum of roller skating in Lincoln, Nebraska?
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:46.559
No.
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:47.599
Okay, yeah.
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.599
I need to go back on my road trip.
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.000
Seriously, I'm sorry I didn't tell you this sooner.
00:35:52.559 --> 00:36:02.239
It was established in 1980 to provide the public with an experience that reflects on and helps understand the sport of roller skating and its history.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:02.639
Oh.
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:16.400
But, Christina, what I found odd while perusing the archives was that there wasn't much, at least on the website, about the influence of black culture and the civil rights movement on roller skating.
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.960
And I think most people would agree that that's really when it transcended being a sport and became an art form.
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.920
Yeah, like that's a huge miss on their part.
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.079
And again, the website, but the website is how you represent yourself.
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:30.800
So I don't know.
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:43.920
But yeah, black roller skating culture didn't start or end with the 70s or 80s, like well into the 2000s, skating rinks were essential black community spaces where DJs broke music, regional dance styles developed.
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:48.559
I mean, there's a video about like all the different types of styles there are from cities.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:54.480
I mean, funk, disco, RB, and eventually hip-hop were all like central to this skating experience.
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.400
Did you see straight out of Compton?
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.280
Uh, the movie?
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:58.480
Yeah, the movie, sorry.
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.519
Yeah, so there's they there's a scene in there.
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.039
Well, you know, I used to live not in Compton, but I lived in Venice near the Venice City Park.
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.599
And I used to love watching people skate there.
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:10.239
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.960
And even just on the boardwalk, there was a lot of great skating down in Venice Beach.
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:28.320
Yeah, and I think after the pandemic, especially a lot of people like really gravitated to that the need of being outside and community, also because roller winks across the nation have been closing.
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:35.679
It's just like they're so expensive to operate, and insurance costs are ridiculous in LA.
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:41.119
The legendary world on wheels closed in 2013 because of bankruptcy.
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:47.199
But the rapper and activist Nipsey Hustle's investment helped reopen it in 2017.
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.719
But then it was shut down again in 2020.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:57.360
And that rank and a few others are featured in the 2018 HBO documentary United Skates.
00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:57.920
Have you seen it?
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.119
Oh shit, no, I gotta watch it.
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:00.159
Oh, you gotta watch it.
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:00.800
It's so good.
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.960
Yeah, yes, that will have a link to the website.
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:10.800
But yeah, as I was saying, during the pandemic, a lot of people like kind of gravitated to skating again.
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.400
People that hadn't, or people that maybe hadn't done it in a while.
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.360
And I think the the Venice scene, pretty vibrant since the 70s.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.599
It grew because the people need to be outside and be a part of something.
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.119
And then I think you're going to New York soon, am I right?
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:27.920
Oh, yeah.
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.039
Okay, good.
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:34.239
So you have to go to see the Central Park dance skaters.
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:34.880
Sweet.
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:35.199
Yeah.
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.559
Do they do it every day?
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:44.079
It's sad I believe it's Saturdays, like late afternoon, 2 45-ish, like into the early evening.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:51.280
But they've been doing this since the 80s and amazing to watch, possibly participate in.
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.679
And they've even got nonprofit status.
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:54.159
Nice.
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:54.559
Yeah.
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:55.599
That's so cool.
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:57.599
Um, but yeah, please go.
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:58.719
Please take video.
00:38:58.880 --> 00:38:59.039
Okay.
00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.599
Please share.
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.840
I'm not gonna be there on a Saturday, but I'm just gonna go to where they go and see if anybody's there.
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:04.159
Yeah.
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:05.920
You know, why not skate every day?
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:06.800
Exactly.
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:14.639
But okay, so there's just so much to share about roller skating, de la Sol, the samples, native tongues.
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.320
But that's why I have a ton of resources in our show notes.
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.239
Like more than ever.
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:27.039
And I hope everyone at least checks out the Quest Love interview because that is a sport in itself.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.360
You will be sweating because you will just like, what's this mean?
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:32.000
What does this mean?
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.119
Oh, I gotta listen to this song.
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:38.719
I gotta like, I I'm seriously like even talking about it, breaking a sweat.
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:40.400
I already have so many questions.
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:42.320
Like, what are those names?
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.639
Oh, what are wait, what are the true boy?
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.000
Is that the older backwards?
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.159
Yes, right, Christina.
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:54.400
Um, yes, and the dove was because he was like, yeah, like kind of pee all peace and love.
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:55.280
Cute, cute.
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:01.440
Pastanus is that's a really cool one, but they talk about it in the Quest Love interview.
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:11.360
But it's basically he at one point wanted to call De la Sole sop sound because his mom used to say, like, you sop up all the juices with the bread.
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.079
And so they were he was thinking that like that's what we are doing with music.
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.400
And so sop sound backwards is pasta noose.
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.199
Oh, okay.
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.960
I was wondering because I caught sound, but I was like, what the hell is sop?
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.360
Yeah, so um, and then macio, that's easy, mason.
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:35.199
Yeah, but yeah, little tidbits like that, you'll get more details from past noose himself.
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.000
Really good.
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:41.519
Christian over-engaged in a theme I didn't think you'd like.
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:42.320
So thank you.
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.440
Thank you for allowing me to go here.
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:53.280
Um, now that we've kind of talked about our sports songs, I was wondering if I could share a little bit of unsolicited advice.
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:54.320
I would love it.
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:55.280
Good.
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.119
Foster a pet.
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:04.639
Not to get on my soapbox, but fostering pets saves animals' lives and make human lives better.
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:05.760
Don't believe me?
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:11.280
Check out one of the hundreds of videos by the Dodo or the countless other dog and cat rescues out there.
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:12.800
I'll be happy to share a link.
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.960
I love that you do this, Christina, but I'm always like concerned.
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.400
Do you get attached?
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:24.320
It's so sad to imagine, like you build up this rapport with an animal and then you have to say goodbye.
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.840
Faltering might seem sad, and you know me.
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:29.440
I'm a weepy person.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.679
Yeah, I get attached to things.
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:38.079
But the thing is, you're saving a pup or a cat's life and giving them another shot at happiness.
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.599
And it's also fun to play with a new little critter all the time and then send them off to their perfect new home.
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.280
I think critter might be an unsettling word for some people.
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:55.440
But if the whole concept is difficult for you as it is for me to foster an animal, there's there's always donations.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:57.039
Amen to that.
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.960
Rescues need a lot of money to make their work possible.
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:09.760
But if you want to play with puppies, kitties, elderly dogs and cats, or even some animal that's more exotic, perhaps a rabbit, foster.
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.079
You'll save a life and make yours more fun.
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.199
Or at the very least, more interesting.
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:16.559
Advice over.
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.159
I'm already hot.
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